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Hello! Hello! Welcome back to diagnosing killer. I am Kenna. I'm Koelle. I'm excited to talk to you guys again. I know. I feel like it's still been a week.

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It's been a really long week.

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Yeah, we've had a lot going on.

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You were in Vegas.

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I was in Vegas. I graduated. I walked the stage from college finally. So I actually have a psychology degree, so now my word means a little bit more than I did a few weeks ago.

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And we were on the news. We talked about it. Well, obviously you guys have heard the interview, hopefully, that we came out with Clark Finney. We named it DAK Live, which I think is a really cool concept. Maybe we can put it in the future with someone else.

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No editing, completely raw, unfiltered. And we did air that last week. And then shortly afterwards we aired the Clara Harris episode, which we talked about the fact that we were going to the interview.

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And I'm going to be on the news. It kind of got mixed up in the timeline. But we did a segment on Great Day S.A. So if you would like to go watch that, we're super honored. They made us look so good. And I just Googled Great Day S.A.

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And then the date was 1217 2021. So if you just Google that, it's on the homepage.

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Yeah. Yeah, I got to see it. Why didn't you get to see it live or recorded it on DVR? Because I didn't wake up until late. I was like, oh my God, I forgot we were on TV today.

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Well, I saw it hours later because I was two hours behind you guys back there. And so I didn't watch it until like, I guess noon, y'all's time.

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Yeah, I was really awesome. Go give that a watch if you guys want to. It's only like a four minute segment. It's nothing crazy. But you can see us live and in action in our closet recording, you know, super authentic.

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Yeah. And thanks so much to Clark seriously. It was such a privilege to talk to her and listen to her and open up with her. And it was really cool. It was awesome. She's awesome.

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Yeah, she's great. I told you I FaceTimed her drunkenly while I was in Vegas. Oh my God, you did not. We had a conversation. It was great. She was so nice. She's so nice. I'm so embarrassed.

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So embarrassed. That's what you do in Vegas. You get drunk and make stupid decisions. Yeah, and make stupid decisions.

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Without further ado, I think you have a new case for us today. We've been talking about not the case in particular, but the fact that you're doing a case and I'm really excited to know what it is.

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It's kind of weird. I feel a little nervous. Yeah. Yeah. Cause I mean, I feel like with Clark, it was so easy and it wasn't like, yeah, specific content. Yeah, it wasn't scripted.

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Right. But now it's like, I have to present all over again. And it's been like two weeks. Powerpoint presentation.

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Alrighty, today we are going to crack open the case of Grant Amato. Do you know who Grant Amato is? It sounds familiar. You will. Okay. Yeah, I hope so.

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You're going to get to know this guy. He was born May 20th, 1989 to his parents, Chad and Margaret Amato.

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Margaret had had a son from a previous relationship and his name was Jason. Jason was about three or four when Chad and Margaret got married and he adopted Jason. So, Amato.

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So the couple would go on to have two more children. Cody was born in 1987 and then Grant, who's the baby, and he was born in 1989.

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Shortly after Grant was born, the family built a house in Chiluda, Florida and it's about 25 miles outside of Orlando. So just a little tiny Florida town.

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This town was considered to be rural and it actually had very little crime that occurred there.

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And you know, typical of most. Until now. Yeah, until now. Four-shadowing. Uh-oh.

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The house was completed in 1990 and the family moved into their four bedroom dream house. So around this time, it seemed like the family was doing really well.

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Chad Amato, who was the dad, he was a successful clinical pharmacist. So he was a really smart dude and he had a really avid love for computers as well.

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Chad described himself as a quote self-taught computer guru. So clearly Chad loved what he did and it's actually all detailed in his own personal website, which is still active.

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So we're going to talk about Chad a little bit. He gives himself a brief bio. He considers himself to be a quote, an accomplished, confident leader with many years of pharmaceutical experience involving retail, hospital, home health, specialty, and long-term care in the state of Florida.

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After finishing my private elementary and my private high school education, I enrolled and graduated from the University of Florida.

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My original plan was to be an industrial chemist, but the lab was rather solitary and my father, who was also a pharmacist, convinced me that parlaying with the chemistry major into a pharmacy degree would be more socially interactive and equally gratifying.

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And he was right. Today, healthcare is an ever-changing discipline.

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Change is an opportunity best met with motivation, not resistance. Outside of the profession, I am married and I am mentored three sons.

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They also have established careers in the healthcare industry. Since my profession resides inside buildings, the vast majority of my free time is spent outdoors.

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I marvel and compete with mother nature. My favorite activities are climbing, hiking, and cycling.

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I chill out and watch classic films and try to avoid the relentless mainstream media commercials. When it's time to self-educate, I just Google it.

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A balanced routine for me would be work, exercise, fun, and peace. I consider myself fortunate to have a soulmate of the same spiritual wavelength. She is the moon to my son.

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This is the dad.

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This is his own bio, yeah, on his website.

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The dad, though.

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Yes.

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So his wife, Margaret Amato, she's mom, and she was a client operations manager at Nuance Communications.

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So aside from her job, Margaret was an active animal lover, especially of horses. She often rescued and rehabilitated horses even in the most severe cases.

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The most beloved one of hers being Lady, who she rescued in 2009, and she was an off-the-track thoroughbred, so she was a retired racing horse.

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She posted about Lady all the time on her Facebook pages, and Lady was a troubled horse, but Margaret never abandoned her and kept showing Lady the love and affection that she thought she deserved all throughout her life.

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And then a lady passed away. I didn't know the date, but she did pass away at some point.

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So Jason had actually, this is the oldest son, he moved away to college within a year or so of the family moving into their brand new house.

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This kind of gave way for Cody and Grant to become really close together, so they were pretty much inseparable. Everyone described them as best friends.

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During their high school years at Timber Creek High School, Cody and Grant also became interested in healthcare, so they realized like they wanted to follow in their parents' footsteps and their grandparents' footsteps.

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At the same time, Cody and Grant joined a weightlifting team, and they were also really big motivators for each other in the gym, so they seemed like they were doing really great extracurricular activities and things like that, staying motivated.

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But just like typical teenagers, however, the brothers had playstations, PCs, VR sets, video games consumed quite a bit of their downtime, so they were pretty obsessed with online stuff besides gaining some type of extracurricular outlet.

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So the brothers also loved things like anime, and they were also part of an airsoft gun competition thing, like they had their own little airsoft troop that they went in and did competitions with.

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Cody would go on to graduate in 2005 with Grant following in 2007. Both of the boys had dreams of going to nursing school, getting their degrees, and after college they would buy matching BMWs and purchase their family's home, all while their parents would retire in a recently purchased house that they had purchased in Tennessee.

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So that was their goal, like they had their whole lives planned out. They were going to go get their nursing license, buy nice cars, buy the house, the family house, and then, you know.

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So the boys seemed like super hyper focused and seemed to have a pretty good plan in place for their futures. Cody and then eventually Grant would go on to nursing school and then anesthesiology school. They wanted to be anesthesiologists.

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So Cody excelled in all of his courses. He flew through nursing school and anesthesiology school. Grant, however, struggled in school and would only barely pass his nursing degree in 2011.

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And he soon dropped out of anesthesiology school after failing multiple courses.

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Becoming an anesthesiologist is one of the hardest things that you can do in the doctor world. Like that takes a shitload of schooling and a lot of perseverance and really good grades.

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Yeah, and a lot of discipline, which Cody seemed to have, honestly. So even though this was perceived as a setback for Grant, he did go on to find work in an ICU, in the ICU as a nurse for the Orlando Regional Medical Center where he would work as an RN for the next three years.

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It kind of sounds like Kristen Gilbert.

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Shut up! I haven't got there yet.

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But in 2018, while working for Avent Health Orlando, Grant was actually suspended pending an investigation into missing medications.

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The hospital where Grant worked had noticed a large amount of propofol that had gone missing. And I don't know if anybody remembers this, but propofol was actually one of the drugs that there was that doctor that had a pending investigation on him from Michael Jackson's death.

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And because he was giving him copious amounts of propofol.

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Oh no.

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Mixed with other like horse rank realizers or whatever.

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But a large amount of this had gone missing and measures were taken to track the missing medications.

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Specifically, there are two vials that were split between two patients, two vials, split between two patients.

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That sounds like a lot.

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Where no orders by any doctor to administer this drug had been given and they were both under Grant's care.

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While the investigation continued since Grant was suspended, he spent more time at home and especially on the internet.

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He poured himself into video games and began to isolate.

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Eventually, Grant would be arrested for grand theft, which is more than $300 but less than $5000, but it is a felony charge.

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So, and this was for improperly administering drugs.

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Yeah. I mean, he could have killed somebody.

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So, Grant had actually semi admitted to the crime stating to his superiors when originally approached, but he said that he quote,

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administered the drug to patients because they were not adequately relaxed.

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So, let's just tranquilize that.

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Just borderline kill them.

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So, the charges were actually later dropped, but this was not without suspicion that the family had something to do with the reason that the charges were dropped.

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They were a pretty wealthy family.

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So, of course, Grant was fired from his job, which he should have been.

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Because of this, his isolation worsened.

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He spent almost all of his time indoors and online.

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His weight began to drop like at an alarming rate because he was just becoming.

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He just wasn't eating.

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He wasn't well, he was sleeping all day.

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He was staying up all night.

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He began to get like very pale.

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He just wasn't taking care of himself, which is a complete 180 from the guy that was lifting weights in high school.

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You know, he looked good.

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I mean, he can even Google pictures of him then and it was like, okay, well, he's not a bad looking guy.

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And then you Google pictures of him like around this time.

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So, he started playing multiplayer shooter games with other people online and he began to actually livestream on Twitch.

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And so, he was like finding this kind of other world.

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You know, like he began to have friends online and things like that.

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And so, he had begun to believe that he could possibly make a career out of becoming a Twitch streamer.

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So, with this and his family believing in him that like you can do anything that you set your mind to, like, of course,

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Father and his brother actually started financially helping him to purchase new equipment or like support him for a little bit while he got more followers

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and things like that to really start his career.

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So, they super wanted to support him.

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They were being really supportive.

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But it's no surprise though that a man that was seemingly an online obsession at this point would become lonely and look for relationships sources online, right?

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So, eventually he became addicted to porn.

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So, we're just gonna like jump right in there.

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Jump right in.

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Well, again, like he's isolated, he's lonely.

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Well, the internet is his only source of communication or interaction with people.

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Right, and entertainment or whatever.

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So, it just makes sense.

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Like, he's online all the time and I'm not saying nobody looks at porn.

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I'm just saying it started becoming a full-blown addiction.

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So, with this, he would, this would eventually lead to someone he called the love of his life.

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This was a Bulgarian cam girl named Sylvie.

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So, portraying himself as everything that he always wanted to be in life, he met Sylvie on a cam girl website.

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He claimed that he was a wealthy professional gamer with a BMW and a luxurious house to himself.

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There's like one thing in that sentence that's accurate, which is gamer.

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Gamer.

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So, with the money he was accepting from his brother and father, Grant would purchase lavish gifts, flowers, lingerie, and even sex toys for her.

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Which, of course, he's watching, right?

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Because it's a cam girl.

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I didn't even think about that.

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Grant would often just send straight up money to Sylvie as well.

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So, Grant was spending upwards of not even joking.

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This was, this is after doing a little bit of math, almost $2,500 for a four-hour long session.

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$2,500 for four hours.

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So, that's over $500 an hour.

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And so, a lot of the time it was like 600 there, 600 here, 600 there, but it was an uncommon for him to spend that amount of money.

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Yeah, for a four-hour long session.

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It's not even his money that he's spending.

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He doesn't have a job.

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So, he also began referring to her as his girlfriend.

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But she's just like, give me your money, send me the presents.

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I'm doing my job.

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I mean, she's a cam model.

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I mean, that's what she does.

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But he is like thinking it's way different.

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He thinks that, yeah.

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And I think that it just starts becoming such an addiction that it's like if he feels like

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he spends more time with her than other people, then she's going to love him more than, you

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know, only be interested in him if he's consuming all of her time.

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Which she doesn't care.

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She's getting paid.

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Yeah, exactly.

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So, he's trying to max out credit cards.

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He even attempted to take out a credit card in his own father's name.

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Even after learning this, his dad did not press charges, however.

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And in fact, in order to keep it like on the hush-hush, Chad just kept the credit card.

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He didn't close it.

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This is enabling at its finest.

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Which is just enabling him to use it.

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He has all the information.

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So, Grant was showing that pretty much he could take from them and they weren't going to do

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anything about it.

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They never reprimanded him and Grant would just tell them whatever they wanted to hear

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and continue to be like in the moment and then just continue to spend money.

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So, over the course of a few months, Grant would spend almost $200,000.

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I don't even have that much money.

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And family money.

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It's so ridiculous.

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He doesn't have a job.

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I know.

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It's not even his money.

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His money is this.

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Like where is this coming from?

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He hasn't had a job.

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That's the thing.

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So, all of this money is coming from his family and honestly it's not clear how or when the

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family kind of found out that Sylvie existed.

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But I'm sure it's not like he's hiding it.

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He's probably charging all of their credit cards or whatever it is.

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Anyways, I'm thinking that the family knew that he had a girlfriend but maybe didn't know

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that she was a cam model or I don't know.

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Maybe he's just saying it's just gifts or something.

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But how do you not know it's a cam girl?

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Yeah.

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Maybe they did.

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Yeah.

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Know that it's a cam girl and I'm not sure that again, I don't know how they found out.

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But honestly Margaret and Chad don't seem like they are dummies.

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Yeah, of course.

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They also don't seem like they're like, hey, stop doing that.

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Yeah.

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They're just like, please.

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Yeah.

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Could you please stop?

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Literally.

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And he's like a full blown addict at this point.

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Yeah.

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He's also a whole ass adult.

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So, Cody, you know, having a really good career, he's an anesthesiologist.

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He really wanted to help his brother and he told Grant that he did need to get help.

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But he said, let's get out of town, let's take a really nice trip.

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Just the two of us, I think actually a friend met up with them at some point, but he's

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like, let's go get some space.

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Let's get clear headed.

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And when we come back, get some help.

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Yeah.

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He's like, okay.

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So, Cody, being a great older brother spent $10,000 on a trip to Japan.

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Wow.

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Yeah.

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They stayed in early December.

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And this is of 2018.

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So, yeah, he was just trying to get him motivated, like maybe like shake him up a little bit,

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maybe get him out of his depression and get him doing something, you know, like, like

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this is a whole, there's a whole world out here.

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Yeah, exactly.

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Like, and you're just isolated online.

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I thought that was pretty cool.

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That's nice.

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Oh, that's nice, Cody.

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So, Cody and Grant had always wanted to take that trip, like I said, and it was in December.

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Cody did tell Grant that when he returned home, he got a seek treatment.

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Grant said, cool.

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And the two seemed to have a great time.

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What do you think happened when he got back?

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He just went right back to his old habits.

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Fuck yeah.

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So, he was like, he did not get help.

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After the trip, Grant and Chad's relationship started to deteriorate.

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So that's the son of the dad.

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Chad was just like, I've had it.

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Like, he had actually been spending their retirement money.

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Oh my gosh.

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Yeah.

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So, both Chad and Margaret, like, all of their retirement money was almost gone.

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He even actually applied for a second mortgage on their house.

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Without telling them?

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Yeah.

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So, when they were just taken, the mortgage itself was only $150,000, which wasn't even

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enough to cover the amount of debt that he had racked up, but they also have to pay that

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back.

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Yeah, exactly.

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So, it's like, it's just- Jesus.

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What is it?

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Borrowing from Peter to pay Paul?

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Yeah.

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That's really all it is.

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Yeah.

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So, one particular very terrible argument that Grant had had with his dad, Grant just

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ditched.

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Like, he just left the house.

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He messaged his mother saying, quote, I'm really tired of everything, and quote, I'm

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gonna handle this my own way.

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Fearing that her son would take his own life and became- she became really concerned.

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And she's a concerned and sweet mother anyways.

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She called the police to report her son missing.

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She cited his depression and isolation saying that after failing in school and getting fired,

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he was feeling, quote, worthless.

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She was really concerned that he had access to guns as well, because they were kind of

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gun people.

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I didn't really mention that earlier, but that was supposed to go with the Aerosoft thing.

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So Grant had actually gone to his aunt Donna's house, seemingly for refuge.

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And she lived about 42 miles away.

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And when he arrived, Donna was shocked by Grant's appearance because she hadn't seen

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him in a few months.

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Uh-huh.

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Oh yeah, she had lost a lot of weight and stuff.

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And he just looked terrible.

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He looked pale and sleep deprived.

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So she offered for him to stay there for a few days to kind of cool off or whatever

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it was, right?

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And didn't initially notify Chad or Margaret where he was.

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She was like, you can just be here for a little bit, chill out.

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Donna, over the next two days, had noticed that Grant just really had strange sleeping

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patterns.

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He slept all day, stayed up all night, all this stuff.

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And then she started noticing that her credit card was being hacked.

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Oh, that's really weird.

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He hasn't done that yet.

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I'll remind you that the family kept it really hush hush.

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Oh yeah, that's right.

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So she realized that Grant was the one that had stolen her credit card information.

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So she called Chad to reveal to him that Grant was with her and was using her credit card

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without her consent.

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Chad, at this point, had broke down crying.

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And Donna said in 27 years that she's known her brother-in-law, she's never seen him cry.

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Or maybe once.

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But Donna heard all of it, basically, that they wouldn't be able to retire when they

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wanted to and that they had to remortgage the house.

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And it didn't matter what it took to keep Grant out of jail, they were still going to

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do it.

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That's so awful.

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So Margaret and Chad both begged Donna not to press charges.

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And Cody even offered to make payments to Donna to cover what he spent.

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Donna agreed not to press charges under the premise of him getting help, basically.

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So she was like, I won't press charges as long as he goes to get help.

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He's not going to though.

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So on December 22nd of 2018, the Amato family, including Chad, Margaret, oldest son Jason,

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and middle son Cody, confronted Grant outside of his aunt Donna's home in the driveway.

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In intervention.

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Yeah, in intervention.

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They had made arrangements for Grant to go to recovery for internet and sex addiction.

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Cody himself was the one that fronted the bill for a 60 day treatment program in Fort

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Lauderdale to the tune of $15,000.

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I was going to say that's not cheap.

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It's not.

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Grant decided to go to treatment voluntarily.

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However, he would check himself out just after two weeks of inpatient treatment.

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Oh my gosh.

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He would later tell detectives that he justified leaving in this two weeks ban because the

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psychiatrist and therapist did not prescribe him any medications and called his addiction

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a quote isolated event due to being out of work and PTSD from being previously arrested.

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Okay.

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I think that's a little ridiculous that they came to that consensus with his diagnosis,

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but you don't just, you don't go to therapy and, oh, you shouldn't go to therapy and hopes

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or recovery and hopes of getting medicated, you know, that's not.

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No.

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And that's what he was saying.

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He's like, well, it's, I mean, when I basically he was saying when I signed the paperwork,

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I told them like, well, I haven't been diagnosed with anything and I'm not taking any medications.

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You can't hold me for anything.

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And he also checked himself in voluntarily.

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And the thing is, is that he has medical knowledge.

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He probably knows the things that he should be taking in order to stabilize himself unless

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he doesn't think that he's unstable.

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He probably doesn't.

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Well, in his mind, it's like they're trying to keep him from his girlfriend.

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You know what I mean?

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So I think that he probably just hung his hat on the words like isolated event.

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Yeah.

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Like they were like, oh, well, you know, these, these thoughts that you're having or whatever

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might be an isolated event, but whatever.

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But yeah, what I'm saying is like, or the PTSD, I think that he literally just honed

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in on those things.

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So that that was his justification for leaving.

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Yeah.

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Well, it's like they're trying to say this.

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I don't think that an actual psychiatrist or therapist said those things to him is what

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I'm saying.

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In the context of that, there's no paper trail.

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So it's not like, I mean, he just signed himself out.

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Yeah.

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So who knows what was said to him, you know, eventually Grant returned home on January 5th,

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2019, but the family was prepared for this.

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And while in treatment, the Amato family had come up with their quote bottom lines like

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Dr. Phil.

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Yeah.

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So these are their rules for remaining in the house and a list of conditions if Grant

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were to stay home.

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So I transcribed what I could because it's on a legal pad that Chad wrote.

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Like the real document was put into evidence, but there's photographs of it online.

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So I was only reading it.

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Yeah.

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It's handwritten.

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Yeah, it's handwritten, but it's legal pad paper.

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So it's like to get a whole picture of it.

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It's like really tiny.

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So I transcribed what I could.

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So at the beginning of the letter, it's calculated all the money that Grant Amato has either stolen

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or used.

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Oh, wow.

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And what the family had spent bailing him out of situations, including lawyers, hotels,

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even the Japan trip.

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Oh, wow.

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The rehab center, even down to email correspondences with Sylvie because that costs money through

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the campsite.

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So in the letter, it states that, and there's just bullet points at this point, Grant must

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present a plan in writing of his recovery plan that if not adhered to leads to the dismissal

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from the home.

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He must have any day shift job as an RN, laborer, or in an office.

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He cannot have an overnight position.

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I'm surprised his nursing license didn't get revoked from all this.

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From all that, right?

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Or even the accusation of him stealing, although the charges were dropped.

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He may not have post-midnight internet use and must not have overnight internet use no

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more all-nighters.

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Okay.

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So he's got to go to bed at a certain time.

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Which is only going to help his mental health.

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Yeah, exactly.

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And that's what they're concerned about.

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I mean, they're doctors, they're nurses in this family.

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They know.

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The family will install a new AT&T modem with limited capacity so they can turn off the

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internet whenever they want.

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Nice.

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It'll come with some sort of a blocking equipment for unwanted Wi-Fi connections as well and

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hotspots.

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So all that's going to be blocked.

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Grant will turn in his phone and the Amados will purchase a new phone minus data capabilities,

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essentially just a phone for emergencies.

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Yeah.

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No internet, just phone call.

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Right.

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Subscriptions on internet are also canceled on all devices available at the house including

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an iPad, a Surface Pro, and a main family computer.

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Yeah, this is like legit.

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They're like legit.

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Like they're like, if you're going to get out of rehab that early, we're going to treat

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this place like rehab.

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Yeah.

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Which is the way it should be.

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Yeah, it should.

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Most of this was Chad because Margaret, she's too sweet.

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You must get a job and be able to afford beginning to pay back some of the money at an agreeable

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amount to pay and to also pay for his car insurance.

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He must issue a family apology and create some savings.

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Chad did note in the letter in little parentheses on the side that he, the family did not anticipate

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Grant's ability to pay them back nor that they ever expect an apology from him, at least

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not a sincere one.

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Yeah.

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But he also says in parentheses, like lacks the ability to be empathetic or whatever.

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Like they're legit.

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There's a sign right there.

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Grant would agree to a personality and psychiatric evaluation as well as regular therapy.

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Grant also had an option to join the military if he didn't want to comply with all of the

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family house rules.

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Okay.

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But he would still have a place to land, right?

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Grant was told to never contact Sylvia again and if he were to, Grant would immediately

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be kicked out of the house.

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Furthermore, while he was in rehab, Chad and Cody actually contacted Sylvia while Grant

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was there and revealed that Grant was not rich and had been using family money to support

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his addiction to her.

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She was told not to contact Grant, lest she be pulled into an investigation of fraud.

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Wow.

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This is like a lot.

456
00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:19,440
Like they are smart people.

457
00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:20,440
Well, yeah.

458
00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:24,480
And like the thing is, is like everything that you're saying, I'm thinking to myself,

459
00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:26,320
he's gonna be like, no, like, fuck you guys.

460
00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:27,320
I'm an adult.

461
00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:28,320
I'm like, do this and that and the other.

462
00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:31,640
But like if you don't act like an adult, then we're not gonna treat you like an adult.

463
00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:35,720
And you got those rights taken away when you did all of this prior.

464
00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:37,880
Well, and these are just conditions to stay in the house.

465
00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:38,880
Exactly.

466
00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:41,640
If the dude wanted to live in a shelter, he could go live in a shelter or if he wanted

467
00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:44,240
to go get a job, you know, whatever it was.

468
00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:45,240
And move out.

469
00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:46,240
Yeah.

470
00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:49,280
Oh, I think I accidentally skipped over this, that he must show a job application or proof

471
00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:50,280
of employment.

472
00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:53,640
He must find a job in 60 days and keep it for at least 90 days.

473
00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:54,640
Okay.

474
00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:55,640
At a time.

475
00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:56,640
And if he wants to switch jobs, you gotta.

476
00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:59,000
You gotta stay there for 90 days.

477
00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:00,000
Yeah.

478
00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:03,320
So Grant agreed to all of these conditions.

479
00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:04,320
Wow.

480
00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:07,480
Although it was ridiculous, he said that his own father would keep his girlfriend from

481
00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:08,920
having any contact with him.

482
00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:11,920
Like the dude literally legit thinks this is unfair.

483
00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:12,920
He thinks that's his girlfriend.

484
00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:13,920
Yeah.

485
00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:14,920
Like for sure.

486
00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:18,600
After Grant was given this ultimatum, Cody became concerned that of the family's safety,

487
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:21,600
he was actually quoted in telling a girlfriend that he was worried that his brother would

488
00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:22,840
quote, kill everyone.

489
00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:24,080
Oh my gosh.

490
00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:25,400
Because he was that upset.

491
00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:26,920
Does he kill everyone?

492
00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:27,920
We're gonna get there.

493
00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:29,000
Oh my gosh.

494
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:33,360
This however did not stop Margaret from enabling her own son.

495
00:27:33,360 --> 00:27:34,360
No.

496
00:27:34,360 --> 00:27:39,240
She would eventually cave to Grant's request by allowing him to use her phone to contact

497
00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:41,240
Sylvie via social media, Twitter.

498
00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:42,240
Okay.

499
00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:44,720
She's going against Chad now.

500
00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:46,720
Like it's not even like you're still enabling your son.

501
00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:48,240
Now you're going against your husband.

502
00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:49,240
Right.

503
00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:50,240
Like in his family.

504
00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:51,240
It's for his safety.

505
00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:52,240
Exactly.

506
00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:53,240
The family safety.

507
00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:54,240
It's not like the husband's being ridiculous.

508
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:55,240
Yeah.

509
00:27:55,240 --> 00:28:01,400
So on the fourth in 2019, Chad found out about Grant's continued contact with Sylvie.

510
00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:05,760
Chad reportedly grabbed Grant by the shirt in anger, somewhat lifting him up and then

511
00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:09,080
gave him a few short hours to pack his shit and go.

512
00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:10,080
Wow.

513
00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:11,080
He's serious.

514
00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:12,080
Straight up.

515
00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:17,160
The next morning, January 25th, 2019, Cody's co-workers became worried when he didn't show

516
00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:18,560
up for work.

517
00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:19,560
No.

518
00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:22,920
He had been known as a hard worker and out of the five years he had been employed there,

519
00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:24,720
he had never missed a single day of work.

520
00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:28,920
A co-worker called the police and told the dispatcher that he feared something had come

521
00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:35,600
to harm of his friend and that he would, that it was really unlike him to skip out of work.

522
00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:39,920
He also knew the mental history and depression with Grant and that he knew at one point that

523
00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:41,600
he was suicidal.

524
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:46,080
The police arrived at the house at 9.20am to carry out a welfare check only to find no

525
00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:47,360
answer at the door.

526
00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:51,280
And after several attempts of contacting any occupants, the officers asked for confirmation

527
00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:53,800
from a supervisor to enter the residence.

528
00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:56,920
Through a sliding glass door, the officers gained access to the residence to find a

529
00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:57,920
horrible scene.

530
00:28:57,920 --> 00:28:58,920
No.

531
00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:03,840
He first found Cody Amato, aged 31, and he was, content warning, it will describe the

532
00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:05,840
death scene.

533
00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:09,720
Cody Amato, who was 31 at the time, was found shot dead in the hallway between the gym and

534
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:11,800
the garage.

535
00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:14,000
He had been shot once under his eye.

536
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:15,560
I felt like I'm friends with Cody.

537
00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:16,560
That's so sad.

538
00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:17,560
No.

539
00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:18,560
He just wanted the best for his brother.

540
00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:21,320
He did, and he tried to help him, and he was really successful.

541
00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:27,160
He, again, he was shot underneath his eye, and a gun was laying close to him.

542
00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:28,640
He was dressed in his scrubs.

543
00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:32,760
He had just come over from work from the night before, and his lunchbox was actually next

544
00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:34,200
to him in a pool of blood.

545
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:35,760
Next found was Chathamato.

546
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:38,320
He was 59, and he was in the kitchen.

547
00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:42,680
He had been shot twice in the head, and he was face up, and it was noticed right away

548
00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:44,960
that he was wearing a gun holster.

549
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:47,120
An epistle was so inside the holster.

550
00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:52,240
It was on his right side, and although Chad was right handed, it was a cross draw holster.

551
00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:53,240
So that's weird.

552
00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:55,720
Why is it on his right side if he's right handed?

553
00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:56,720
It's a cross draw.

554
00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:57,720
We'll see.

555
00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:00,280
So the last victim found was Margaret Amato, 61.

556
00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:04,160
She was actually shot in the back of the head while still seated at her computer desk,

557
00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:06,320
and she was swummed over.

558
00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:10,000
Grant was nowhere to be found, and when police tried to track him down via his cell phone,

559
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:11,800
it had been disconnected.

560
00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:16,520
Police put a bulletin out to track down Grant's 1996 Honda Accord.

561
00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:20,120
I just want to pepper that in there because he said he drew a BMW, and he was driving

562
00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:21,680
a 1996 Honda Accord.

563
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:26,000
Well, it's to say that his phone didn't get disconnected because he was a partner phone.

564
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:27,000
And this was 2018.

565
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:29,840
Yeah, exactly.

566
00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:35,720
So the next morning, a tip actually was received that found Amato's car at a double tree hotel

567
00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:39,000
where he was located, and voluntarily went to the station to talk about what happened

568
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:40,440
to his family.

569
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:45,640
When Amato arrived, detectives Anderson, and I think I'm pretty sure it's Maltari, they

570
00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:46,960
seem pretty chill when they get in there.

571
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:50,760
They're just asking him about school history, some work history, he chatted about his interests

572
00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:57,320
like anime and video games and things like that, trying to get him real comfortable.

573
00:30:57,320 --> 00:31:01,640
He did say that when he last left the house with some bags that he unpacked, and he had

574
00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:06,680
said that he was there for several hours packing because that's the opportunity that his dad

575
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:10,080
gave him, and he said that Cody wasn't there when he left.

576
00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:14,840
He later changed his story that Cody was indeed there, but Amato only saw him for a short

577
00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:18,920
time, given the hostility in the house he just wanted to get out.

578
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:23,040
Originally he said that he had left at 9.30 at night, but was confronted when they had

579
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:28,320
already had information that Cody left his job early at 9.15.

580
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:32,680
So they were like, given the time that it would take Cody to get to the house, unless

581
00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:35,120
he stopped somewhere, you know, whatever.

582
00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:38,040
Of course they're not going to give him that, unless he stopped somewhere.

583
00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:44,400
But then he did admit that he did see his brother before he left, but only for a short

584
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:45,400
minute.

585
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:47,720
Okay, yeah, when he was killing him.

586
00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:51,520
So investigators pushed for more information regarding Cody's love of guns, knowing full

587
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:54,840
well that a gun was found only feet away from Cody.

588
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:59,360
Amato leaned into the story and basically was building up a case against his own brother

589
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:01,080
for murder.

590
00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:09,560
He stated that Cody had told him he was going to quote, take care of everything as Amato

591
00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:11,120
was leaving the house.

592
00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:15,480
He described his father as physically abusive towards everyone in the family except Cody

593
00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:19,040
when they were younger, which is kind of contradictory to him telling him that he's mad.

594
00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:22,680
It was like, oh, my brother loved me so much, he was going to do me this favor.

595
00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:26,920
No, and it was also like, if he's trying to play the whole I'm innocent thing, why wasn't

596
00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:30,560
he like, yeah, I was really concerned when my brother said he was going to take care

597
00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:31,680
of it for me.

598
00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:33,080
Like, why wouldn't you stay?

599
00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:34,080
Oh my God.

600
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:35,680
Yeah, he's trying to make it ominous.

601
00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:40,160
It's so disrespectful to blame someone that you fucking murdered.

602
00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:42,720
Well, I don't know if he murdered him, I'm sure he did.

603
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:45,480
He just tried to put them as the bad person.

604
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:50,400
He said that him and Cody were both intimidated by Chad, although he did claim that Cody never

605
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:52,600
experienced abuse.

606
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:56,640
He did talk about the financial problems about him and his girlfriend.

607
00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:58,840
He was not shy about these truths.

608
00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:04,280
And again, he recanted a few things talking about when he saw Cody when he didn't.

609
00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:08,160
He claimed that after he left the house, he sat in a parking lot of a local grocery store

610
00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:13,320
to use the store Wi-Fi to look up directions for a job interview that he had the next day.

611
00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:14,320
Yeah, bullshit.

612
00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:18,720
He said that a job interview, like of all things, it wasn't like I got to get down to

613
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:21,960
the GameStop or whatever it was.

614
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:24,920
I got to, oh, the one time in my life I have a job interview.

615
00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:27,920
Seriously, you can't even do that for the freaking requirements on the list after you

616
00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:28,920
got out of rehab.

617
00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:33,160
So he said that he did sleep in his car until he went to the job interview at 6.45, which

618
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:36,240
is clearly, like, you can clearly look that up.

619
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:38,040
Also, why does this guy have a car?

620
00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:42,800
Why wouldn't the parents take the car and use it or sell it to get some of that money?

621
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:43,800
He's also like 28.

622
00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:47,440
28 is not freaking acting like it.

623
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:51,880
Investigators turn up the heat then by confronting a motto about how his phone will show detailed

624
00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:54,240
accounts of everywhere he went if it connected to Wi-Fi.

625
00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:56,320
You're like, bro, it's 2019.

626
00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:58,240
You're also really computer literate.

627
00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:03,680
You know that it's like your phone connected to the grocery store where you claim to be

628
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:04,680
sitting all night.

629
00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:09,280
Well, if you move anywhere, it's going to try to connect to other Wi-Fis.

630
00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:10,600
Like, don't.

631
00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:14,880
Three hours into the interrogation, a motto had yet to even ask for the reason he was

632
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:16,720
there.

633
00:34:16,720 --> 00:34:17,720
He didn't know.

634
00:34:17,720 --> 00:34:21,600
Well, he didn't know that his family had been murdered.

635
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:22,960
What about his other brother?

636
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:24,760
Jason, he didn't live in the house.

637
00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:25,760
Remember, he moved out.

638
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:26,760
He just wasn't there.

639
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:27,760
Yeah, he moved out during college.

640
00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:31,440
He's not even saying, like, hey, guys, what's all the fuss about?

641
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:34,280
He's just like, yeah, my brother said he was going to like off them for me.

642
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:36,280
There's the, like, we didn't tell you what happened.

643
00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:38,400
Well, this was again after like hours of interrogation.

644
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:41,760
He was like, oh, well, Cody said he was just going to handle it, whatever that means.

645
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:42,760
Now that I know that piece of information.

646
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:44,680
Oh, why am I here after three hours?

647
00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:46,240
He never once asked.

648
00:34:46,240 --> 00:34:52,880
He just, and that's so powerful because he's explaining all of the reasons why.

649
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:55,640
Well, he's giving it his alibi when he doesn't even know.

650
00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:57,120
Yeah, when he doesn't know.

651
00:34:57,120 --> 00:34:58,880
Wow, what an idiot.

652
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:03,000
And it's so much more powerful when the investigators don't have to say anything because, like, you

653
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:04,760
never asked why you're in a police station.

654
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:06,360
You never asked what happened to my family.

655
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:07,360
Why am I here?

656
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:08,360
Yeah, exactly.

657
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:10,360
What's your classic line?

658
00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:11,360
Dummy.

659
00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:12,360
Dummy.

660
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:16,200
I was like, I put up here and I was like, you know, like Chad and Margaret because they're

661
00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:19,120
not dummies.

662
00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:21,280
He had said that he had stayed the night at the Publix.

663
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:23,880
He said that he went to the job interview.

664
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:29,920
And then when he decided to drive home, he noticed that there were a lot of police officers

665
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:32,560
and ambulances down his street.

666
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:38,520
So instead of going to figure out what was happening there, he drove to a local Panera,

667
00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:43,280
connected to the Wi-Fi, and then googled local radio or news stations to see if there

668
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:45,200
was any information.

669
00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:50,200
And then when he saw that it was up his driveway or whatever it was, he was like, well, there's

670
00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:51,200
no way I'm going to get through there.

671
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:52,600
So I might as well just stay at the hotel.

672
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:53,600
Oh, yeah.

673
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:55,600
Don't do anything to try to get to your family that you are trying to say.

674
00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:57,800
Like call 911 and say, was there a 911 call?

675
00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:01,440
Sierra, okay, we went to the grocery store earlier today, me, mom, and the babies.

676
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:04,120
On the way back into the neighborhood, there was a fire truck leaving and I was like,

677
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:06,240
oh my God, we have to get home and make sure that that's not our house.

678
00:36:06,240 --> 00:36:07,240
Right.

679
00:36:07,240 --> 00:36:09,880
I was like, I'm sure somebody would have called me, but even that thought, I was immediately

680
00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:10,880
going to the house.

681
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:11,880
I was not away from it.

682
00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:12,880
Yeah, exactly.

683
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:13,880
Yeah.

684
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:18,000
So investigators continued to pressure Amato and they actually began to show him graphic

685
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:23,000
crime scene photos of the family in order to get some type of a reaction because at

686
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:24,280
this point, he's still deadpan.

687
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:25,280
Yeah.

688
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:26,280
Like just talking very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very,

689
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:27,280
very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very,

690
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:38,080
very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very,

691
00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:45,100
very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very.

692
00:36:45,100 --> 00:36:48,200
So he ended up killing some people.

693
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:50,840
game gave a reaction out of him.

694
00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:54,200
Maybe.

695
00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:59,560
I think it was because the video is out there, you can watch it.

696
00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:01,720
It did look like he was like, ugh, like he didn't want to.

697
00:37:01,720 --> 00:37:03,200
He's finally realizing what he did.

698
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:05,720
I mean, I don't feel that bad for him.

699
00:37:05,720 --> 00:37:09,280
This is the detective's account or their theory about what happened.

700
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:13,000
So Amato had first shot his mother while she was sitting at the computer.

701
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:16,680
Later it was confirmed by the computer forensic analyst who testified that Margaret's computer

702
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:19,120
had actually stopped being active around 4.45.

703
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:20,120
PM.

704
00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:21,120
So PM.

705
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:23,440
And he's saying that he was there until 9.30.

706
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:26,680
So your plan's already got some holes in it.

707
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:27,680
Exactly.

708
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:28,680
Grunt.

709
00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:29,680
Grunt.

710
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:33,000
Her glass of wine was actually still sitting next to her keyboard when she was found.

711
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:38,440
Detectives then explained that they believed that he waited for Chad to come home and he

712
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:41,120
would be executed around an hour later.

713
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:45,520
He was shot once in the head but wasn't killed immediately, content warning.

714
00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:49,840
He did attempt to drag himself to the nearest phone where Amato had stopped him by shooting

715
00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:55,200
him once more and then actually dressed him in his own holster.

716
00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:58,840
Oh, so that's why it was on the wrong, what a dumbass.

717
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:02,880
So he thought about the fact that his dad was right-handed but he didn't know about

718
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:04,960
the holster about it being a cross draw.

719
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:07,000
Thank God for dumb killers.

720
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:08,000
Dummy.

721
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:14,580
So Chad's phone had actually been unlocked around 5.55 and actually had the settings

722
00:38:14,580 --> 00:38:19,080
changed on the dad's phone to remain unlocked.

723
00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:20,080
Why?

724
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:25,920
The creepy thing is that it's only unlockable by fingerprint and later in the trial it was

725
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:29,880
actually revealed that Chad's index finger was actually wiped clean of blood to access

726
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:30,880
his phone.

727
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:31,880
Oh, that is so fucking gross.

728
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:37,920
So Grunt was getting into his phone to either use it or, I mean, there's no specifications

729
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:38,920
there.

730
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:42,720
It was actually revealed later that his bank account information was accessed through the

731
00:38:42,720 --> 00:38:43,720
phone.

732
00:38:43,720 --> 00:38:46,000
That's why, but why would he change it to not lock itself?

733
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:47,000
That's weird.

734
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:50,000
I guess we didn't have to keep doing that over and over again with the fingerprint.

735
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:51,000
Oh, yeah, that makes sense.

736
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:52,520
The fact that he did it once though.

737
00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:53,520
I know.

738
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:54,520
It's creepy.

739
00:38:54,520 --> 00:39:00,840
Like, they, like, a forensic blood spatter, blood, a finger?

740
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:07,680
Not a blood spatter analyst, but like a, like just a, yeah, fingerprint analyst testified

741
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:12,920
that it has been, happened in several cases where people used their, I mean, used a deceased

742
00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:15,040
hand to open up a phone.

743
00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:16,680
Jesus, so creepy.

744
00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:21,840
Around 9.15, Cody Amato had left for work, leaving his shift early.

745
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:25,920
Apparently it wasn't confirmed, of course, because Cody's no longer with us, but apparently

746
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:30,920
a phone call had been made to Cody while he was at work, asking him to come home early.

747
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:31,920
By who?

748
00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:37,440
Well, that's the thing, is that if Chad had died at about six o'clock and he didn't receive

749
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:43,760
a phone call until like 9 o'clock, was it Grant posing as his dad?

750
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:45,160
Trying to lure him to the house.

751
00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:48,560
Maybe it was a text, I don't know, but either way, he had told someone that he needed to

752
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:50,960
go home because of a family incident.

753
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:56,760
But Chad, again, the fingerprint, the last fingerprint access that had happened was at

754
00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:58,480
almost 6 o'clock.

755
00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:02,120
And then afterwards is when Cody got the phone call or the text message or the phone call.

756
00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:03,120
Yes.

757
00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:04,120
So he was saying-

758
00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:05,120
So this was completely calculated.

759
00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:08,040
That he pretty much lured his own brother.

760
00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:10,200
Why wouldn't he lure the other brother then while he's at it?

761
00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:11,200
You know what I mean?

762
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:14,760
I don't know where Jason lives at this point, but he definitely doesn't live in the home.

763
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:15,760
Well, yeah, but like-

764
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:19,160
But, like, why go through that length to get Cody home?

765
00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:22,320
I guess because Jason wasn't a part of their whole rehab thing because he wasn't living

766
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:23,320
in here.

767
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:24,320
I guess?

768
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:25,320
Yeah.

769
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:26,320
Well, he was there at the intervention.

770
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:27,320
Jason was.

771
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:28,320
Well, there you go.

772
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:29,320
But I don't know how far away Jason lived at this point.

773
00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:30,320
Okay.

774
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:31,320
Not just that Jason should have been a victim.

775
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:33,360
I don't think he lived around that area.

776
00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:37,160
He might have even lived in Orlando, but that's like 25 miles away.

777
00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:38,160
You know what I mean?

778
00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:42,040
I'm just trying to put myself into the mind of like, why did you have to go out of your

779
00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:45,600
way to kill Cody or get him home?

780
00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:51,280
But I think it's also because Jason didn't enable him.

781
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:53,480
Cody enabled him financially.

782
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:54,480
And that he was-

783
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:56,960
I mean, remember that list that his dad gave him?

784
00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:59,640
It calculated everything even Cody spent.

785
00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:01,920
Cody was the one that fronted the money for the lawyers.

786
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:03,560
Cody's the one that paid for the hotels.

787
00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:04,560
Cody's the one that-

788
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:05,560
And the rehab.

789
00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:09,160
Either way, Cody left work early and he was immediately shot as he entered the door, given

790
00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:10,840
the position of his body.

791
00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:13,880
Also, it did say that they were kind of moved.

792
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:21,040
Like I know that they testified that where Chad was shot initially or even secondhand,

793
00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:22,840
he would be faced down.

794
00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:24,160
But that he was sound faced up.

795
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:28,400
Well, we know that because of the holster, but that Cody was also potentially moved a

796
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:29,760
little bit.

797
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:35,160
And I'm not sure why because it was just like a small pool of blood and then an even bigger

798
00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:36,160
one.

799
00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:37,160
Weird.

800
00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:38,200
I'm sorry, a bigger one and then a smaller one.

801
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:41,880
So he was already dead by the point that he was being moved.

802
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:46,640
So Grant had, again, this is all the detectives, this is what they're saying, that Grant had

803
00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:50,000
placed the gun next to Cody in order to stage the crime scene.

804
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:52,720
So trying to make Cody look like he killed his parents, which we-

805
00:41:52,720 --> 00:41:54,880
Yeah, and then he shot himself under the eyeball.

806
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:55,880
Yeah, exactly.

807
00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:57,880
Like that doesn't make any sense.

808
00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:02,200
Even confronted with this very specific accusation, Amato never confessed to the crimes and Amato

809
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:05,280
never will or ever did.

810
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:09,720
Not even when detectives brought in Jason, his oldest brother, to enter the interrogation

811
00:42:09,720 --> 00:42:12,160
room to ask him what happened.

812
00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:13,160
Yeah.

813
00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:16,320
We'll get back to that in just a second, but-

814
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:18,160
I don't know if I'd want to see you at that point.

815
00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:19,160
I would be so scared.

816
00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:22,080
Well, he was like, I know you were the last- he's like, I'm not just going to ask you

817
00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:23,080
straight up.

818
00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:24,080
Did you do this?

819
00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:25,080
And Grant was like, no.

820
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:26,080
No, I loved Cody.

821
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:27,080
I loved Mom and Dad.

822
00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:31,280
And he was like, well, I know you were the last person to see them.

823
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:32,840
Like I know you were.

824
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:35,080
You would, you know, like whatever it was.

825
00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:38,000
And he still just denied it.

826
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:40,960
So this is- I'm just going to read off a little bit of evidence that was found.

827
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:44,760
A letter found inside of Grant's car because remember he was like, oh, I hopped in my car

828
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:47,040
and I drove around or whatever.

829
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:50,320
So they're like, of course, we're going to look through your car.

830
00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:56,280
Inside Grant's car, there was a letter that read and it was- and kind of disheveled, I

831
00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:58,880
guess, handwriting.

832
00:42:58,880 --> 00:42:59,880
But it says this.

833
00:42:59,880 --> 00:43:05,280
It's a full-on quote, a couple sentences long, and says, Grant, I'll take care of all of

834
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:06,280
your problems.

835
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:07,360
I just need you back.

836
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:09,400
I can't live without you, brother.

837
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:12,960
I said, I take care of all of your problems at the house and I have.

838
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:15,000
No one will bother you again regarding this.

839
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:16,320
Just please come home.

840
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:17,720
I can't do this again.

841
00:43:17,720 --> 00:43:21,160
If you think I'm a part of the problem here, then I've really lost you and I can't take

842
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:24,400
that loss after everything.

843
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:28,440
From the perspective of quote unquote, Cody.

844
00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:31,160
Who, oh, I'm taking care of everything.

845
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:32,320
I'll do everything for you.

846
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:35,600
I'll kill my parents and then, oh, if you're leaving, then I'm just going to have to kill

847
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:36,600
myself.

848
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:37,600
Like, wow.

849
00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:40,320
And then I placed it in your car.

850
00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:43,960
Or you found it even worse and then you put it in your car and didn't tell police about

851
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:44,960
it.

852
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:45,960
Yeah, what the hell?

853
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:51,960
No, it was found in his car and it was a ridiculously stupid attempt to try to frame

854
00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:54,360
his own brother that he killed.

855
00:43:54,360 --> 00:44:00,320
Also, that just really is compelling to how planned this was and how calculated this was.

856
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:01,320
That's not a goal.

857
00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:06,240
Every phone, each one of the family members was actually accessed or attempted to be accessed

858
00:44:06,240 --> 00:44:07,920
at a certain point.

859
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:12,760
So Chad's bank account, like I said earlier, had been accessed around midnight.

860
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:19,000
Amato then traveled in his car around 2.45 a.m., sat in a grocery store parking lot and

861
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:20,960
gained access to the Wi-Fi.

862
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:28,200
At 3.06 a.m., Amato charged $600 to his father's credit card to reopen his CamGirl account.

863
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:30,240
That's all he fucking cares about?

864
00:44:30,240 --> 00:44:31,680
At, like, what?

865
00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:37,160
You just murdered three of your family members and, like, tried to gain, and again, I'm sure

866
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:39,320
it's all in the trial.

867
00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:45,000
Most of it was televised, so there's a lot of YouTube video out there of it.

868
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:47,840
But yeah, I mean, these are the bullet points, right?

869
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:52,640
Like, he's literally accessed, like, at one point he has, like, over 600 or 700 photos

870
00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:58,000
of Sylvie that he, like, downloads onto his computer that I guess were taken away at some

871
00:44:58,000 --> 00:44:59,000
point.

872
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:00,560
And so he redownloaded that.

873
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:05,160
He took Cody's phone and plugged it into, uh, he was trying to transfer all of his personal

874
00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:09,600
information onto his own computer, I guess, to gain access to bank accounts or whatever

875
00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:10,600
it was.

876
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:14,240
Like, and that was out of an attempt to, because Cody didn't have the thumbprint thing.

877
00:45:14,240 --> 00:45:17,360
He had a number or password, and he didn't know what it was.

878
00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:22,880
So he was trying to gain access to the phone to find out, and financial information, I

879
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:23,880
guess.

880
00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:25,600
But that's, I mean, that's the severity of it.

881
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:29,360
That's what's on your mind is, oh, I've got to get this account reopened, and I'm gonna

882
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:30,800
kill three people to fucking do it.

883
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:33,680
And I don't have Wi-Fi at the house, so I'm gonna drive somewhere that has Wi-Fi just

884
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:34,680
to call her.

885
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:36,800
Oh my god, that's so fucked up.

886
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:37,800
It's horrible.

887
00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:41,240
That's, like, the part that gave me, like, the biggest chills was, like, as soon as he

888
00:45:41,240 --> 00:45:47,960
possibly could, he went to go spend $600 of his dead father's money to access this.

889
00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:52,760
Like, so, again, that's just some evidence that was eventually used against him.

890
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:54,960
So we're getting into the trial now.

891
00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:58,240
Prosecutors, of course, have the stance that Amato was totally obsessed with Sylvie, and

892
00:45:58,240 --> 00:46:03,200
that, along with that, increasing debt and the family issues caused Grant to commit these

893
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:04,200
murders.

894
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:10,320
So the defense painted Chata Amato as an abusive man whose tirades controlled the entire family.

895
00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:14,120
The prosecution had Jason, the oldest brother, as a witness.

896
00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:18,640
Jason denied that Chata had ever been abusive outside of the occasional spanking his children.

897
00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:22,400
So the defense presented evidence that supposedly proved that Chata and Cody were still alive

898
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:26,520
at midnight after Grant left the house via some text messages that they were exchanged

899
00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:28,960
between Chata and Cody's phones.

900
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:33,160
But if he had the prosecutions, like, if he had access to the phones, he could just do

901
00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:34,160
that himself.

902
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:36,800
Like, that's a really dumb defense.

903
00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:41,440
So how the fuck do you sleep at night as a defense attorney that you're trying to paint

904
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:45,640
a picture of one of the victims of this murder scene, that he was an abusive asshole and

905
00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:52,080
he not only deserved to get murdered, it seems like, but like, had a part in it.

906
00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:53,080
That's their job.

907
00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:58,080
The defense had said that there was also no DNA evidence nor gunshot residue president

908
00:46:58,080 --> 00:47:03,000
that connected Grant to the crime, although the prosecution quickly argued that Grant

909
00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:06,520
was never apprehended, at least not for 36 hours.

910
00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:09,960
He could complete, like, he could clean himself up.

911
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:13,560
So both sides actually wanted the courts to understand that the murder weapon itself was

912
00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:14,640
never found.

913
00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:15,640
Okay.

914
00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:16,640
Which is interesting.

915
00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:20,080
So the gun that was found next to Cody wasn't actually used in the crimes.

916
00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:23,440
And there were no shell casings that were ever found.

917
00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:25,240
The murder weapon has not been found.

918
00:47:25,240 --> 00:47:26,240
Still to this day.

919
00:47:26,240 --> 00:47:27,240
Wow.

920
00:47:27,240 --> 00:47:28,240
Interesting.

921
00:47:28,240 --> 00:47:29,240
Which is interesting, right?

922
00:47:29,240 --> 00:47:32,960
But again, it kind of proves that someone did this.

923
00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:33,960
It wasn't Cody.

924
00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:40,120
Cody didn't shoot himself, lose the gun, and then pick up the shell casings, dispose

925
00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:42,840
of those, and then place another gun before he passed.

926
00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:43,840
You know?

927
00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:44,840
I mean, that just doesn't make sense.

928
00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:45,840
It doesn't make any sense.

929
00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:48,280
So somebody had to have committed this crime.

930
00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:56,880
So and again, the prosecution would say that Grant had planted the gun on his own father

931
00:47:56,880 --> 00:48:01,520
so that it looked like Cody and like Cody was being threatened by his father is what

932
00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:02,520
he tried to do.

933
00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:04,880
And he was on the scene not thinking that they're not going to match.

934
00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:06,440
And neither of them don't match.

935
00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:07,440
Yeah.

936
00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:11,280
So ultimately the jury did find Grant Amato guilty of premeditated murder in the first

937
00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:15,760
degree of his father, his mother, and his brother on July 31st, 2019.

938
00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:18,840
And he got charged with three counts of murder or?

939
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:19,840
Three counts.

940
00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:20,840
Three counts of murder.

941
00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:21,840
Yes.

942
00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:23,720
And this was after eight hours of deliberation.

943
00:48:23,720 --> 00:48:24,960
So arguably not a lot.

944
00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:28,200
I mean, that's a lot of evidence for three murders.

945
00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:30,400
So I don't think that's a lot of time.

946
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:35,840
He was sentenced to life without the possibility of parole, but he did avoid the death penalty.

947
00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:36,840
Don't know how.

948
00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:38,840
Oh, this is also Florida.

949
00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:39,840
Florida.

950
00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:40,840
Florida.

951
00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:43,920
Jason Amato said that he will always live with the guilt of not being able to help his

952
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:46,520
family, even if it means that he died along with them.

953
00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:47,520
Oh my God.

954
00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:50,960
He says that he mostly missed being able to talk with his loving mother.

955
00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:51,960
Yeah.

956
00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:55,080
Grant Amato still denies that he had anything to do with the murder of his family.

957
00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:56,080
Oh my God.

958
00:48:56,080 --> 00:48:57,080
Just fucking admit it.

959
00:48:57,080 --> 00:48:58,080
See this day.

960
00:48:58,080 --> 00:48:59,080
Yeah.

961
00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:00,080
Like you're already in prison for life.

962
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:05,920
So the woman known as Sylvie has never been brought to prosecution or even been interviewed

963
00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:08,760
on her perspective of the relationship or the crimes that were committed.

964
00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:09,760
Wow.

965
00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:11,560
She's just out there in the ether in Bulgaria.

966
00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:12,560
Damn.

967
00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:19,400
Grant Amato is now 34 and is serving a sentence in Tamoka Correctional Institution in Daytona

968
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:21,960
Beach and he is currently appealing his conviction.

969
00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:22,960
Damn.

970
00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:27,280
He has yet to be diagnosed or evaluated for his seemingly addicted personality and is

971
00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:30,880
likely his likely disconnect from reality or emotions.

972
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:37,000
So although he hasn't been fully evaluated, Grant Amato clearly has in my opinion, internet

973
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:41,000
sex love addiction as his what would be his diagnosis.

974
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:42,000
Yeah.

975
00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:43,320
And it's super powerful with him.

976
00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:45,920
Like that's it's pretty hardcore.

977
00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:46,920
Yeah.

978
00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:51,800
So I'm just going to get into like talking about what that is a little bit.

979
00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:59,360
So treatment just like for any addiction can be helped with the 12 step program, of course.

980
00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:03,480
And the DSM-4 categorizes this disorder as hypersexual disorder.

981
00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:04,480
Okay.

982
00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:05,920
However, it is not in the DSM-5.

983
00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:06,920
Oh, okay.

984
00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:07,920
Which is interesting.

985
00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:10,920
So I thought this was really, really interesting.

986
00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:15,840
The diagnosis of hypersexual disorder has been dropped again, like I said, in the DSM-5.

987
00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:20,080
Although the American Psychiatric Association doesn't recognize that it's a clear disorder

988
00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:26,600
in the DSM-5, the IDC-10, which is the international classification of diseases, recognizes it as

989
00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:29,040
a diagnosable disease.

990
00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:33,960
So hypersexual disorder was described as a sexual desire disorder characterized by an

991
00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:39,640
increased frequency and intensity of sexual motivated fantasies, arousals, urges, and

992
00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:45,200
enacted behavior in an association with an impulsivity component.

993
00:50:45,200 --> 00:50:46,600
So addiction.

994
00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:48,360
So that's the hypersexual disorder.

995
00:50:48,360 --> 00:50:55,240
The addiction part of itself is characterized by an inability to consistently abstain impairment

996
00:50:55,240 --> 00:50:59,640
in behavioral control, craving, diminished recognition of significant problems with one's

997
00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:04,680
behavior and interpersonal relationships, and a dysfunctional emotional response with those

998
00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:05,840
addictions.

999
00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:11,680
So that's just what it was classified as in the DSM-4.

1000
00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:15,560
But again, it's not in the DSM-5, but it is on the ICD-10.

1001
00:51:15,560 --> 00:51:21,040
And the diagnosis that's in the ICD-10, it's under the blanket of addictions.

1002
00:51:21,040 --> 00:51:23,960
Then underneath addictions, it's impulse control disorder.

1003
00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:27,840
And then underneath that is pretty much compulsive sexual behavior disorder.

1004
00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:31,880
So compulsive sexual behavior disorder is characterized by a persistent pattern of failure

1005
00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:39,240
to control intense repetitive sexual impulses or urges resulting in repetitive sexual behavior.

1006
00:51:39,240 --> 00:51:43,680
Symptoms may include repetitive sexual activities becoming a central focus of the person's life

1007
00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:48,000
in order to the point of neglecting health and personal care or other interests.

1008
00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:49,600
Well, that's exactly what he did.

1009
00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:51,320
Exactly what he did.

1010
00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:55,200
Activities and responsibilities may also be neglected, numerous unsuccessful efforts

1011
00:51:55,200 --> 00:52:00,000
to significantly reduce repetitive sexual behavior, and continued repetitive sexual

1012
00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:04,720
behavior despite adverse consequences or deriving little or no satisfaction from it.

1013
00:52:04,720 --> 00:52:09,600
The pattern of failure to control intense sexual impulses or urges and resulting in repetitive

1014
00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:15,040
sexual behavior is manifested over an extended period of time, like six months or so, which

1015
00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:19,920
again, it was only like six or seven months this whole time, and causes marked distress

1016
00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:25,400
or significant impairment in personal, family, social, educational, occupational, or other

1017
00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:26,880
areas of life functioning.

1018
00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:27,880
Yeah.

1019
00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:29,840
I mean, that sounds just like him.

1020
00:52:29,840 --> 00:52:31,600
I actually didn't know about that case.

1021
00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:35,480
The name sounded familiar, and I think maybe I've seen it in the news and stuff, maybe

1022
00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:39,560
like on an article or whatever, but I did not know about that case.

1023
00:52:39,560 --> 00:52:40,560
It's sad.

1024
00:52:40,560 --> 00:52:41,560
It is.

1025
00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:43,960
It seems like it was just such a turn.

1026
00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:51,840
It was like, I feel like, yeah, I feel like it was, I mean, clearly the tension is building,

1027
00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:58,880
but what's interesting to me about what the IDC-10 says is that it's the impulsivity.

1028
00:52:58,880 --> 00:52:59,880
It's so impulsive.

1029
00:52:59,880 --> 00:53:00,880
You don't care.

1030
00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:01,880
It was just impulsive.

1031
00:53:01,880 --> 00:53:02,880
It was just impulsive.

1032
00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:04,920
You do not care who you harm and who you hurt.

1033
00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:09,520
I mean, he might as well, I'm sorry, he might as well be an alcoholic or a drug addict.

1034
00:53:09,520 --> 00:53:10,520
It is that severe.

1035
00:53:10,520 --> 00:53:11,880
It changes your brain chemically.

1036
00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:12,880
Of course.

1037
00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:16,240
Addiction is a disease, and as many people want us to hypnotize it.

1038
00:53:16,240 --> 00:53:17,920
We're gambling, gambling even.

1039
00:53:17,920 --> 00:53:22,080
It literally changes your brain chemistry, and it changes the way that you perceive things

1040
00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:26,560
with your dopamine and serotonin intake or whatever.

1041
00:53:26,560 --> 00:53:30,920
It literally gives you that pleasure center it lights up so you want to keep doing it.

1042
00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:32,360
It's the same thing that you're right.

1043
00:53:32,360 --> 00:53:35,160
The same thing as addiction to alcohol or addiction to drugs.

1044
00:53:35,160 --> 00:53:41,160
Your body continuously gets that and eventually needs it.

1045
00:53:41,160 --> 00:53:43,000
It doesn't work without it.

1046
00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:47,720
Then not only that, but your tolerance gets higher.

1047
00:53:47,720 --> 00:53:49,240
This is no longer satisfying to me.

1048
00:53:49,240 --> 00:53:50,240
I need something better.

1049
00:53:50,240 --> 00:53:51,240
Yeah.

1050
00:53:51,240 --> 00:53:52,760
Spending $200 on this is no longer satisfying.

1051
00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:54,400
Now I need to spend $300 and $400.

1052
00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:55,680
Now I need to buy her physical gifts.

1053
00:53:55,680 --> 00:53:58,760
I need to see this.

1054
00:53:58,760 --> 00:54:04,280
It's really something and it's really tragic that that took that turn that it did.

1055
00:54:04,280 --> 00:54:05,280
I know.

1056
00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:07,120
I feel so bad for Jason especially.

1057
00:54:07,120 --> 00:54:08,120
I know.

1058
00:54:08,120 --> 00:54:10,000
I mean, survivor's guilt must be immense.

1059
00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:12,320
That's again, what he said is that he feels really guilty.

1060
00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:16,600
He's like, I should have been there even if he were to take me too.

1061
00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:18,920
At least I would have been there with my family.

1062
00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:19,920
It's really sad.

1063
00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:21,080
I can't imagine feeling like that.

1064
00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:26,720
His whole testimony through the trial is also on YouTube and it is heartbreaking.

1065
00:54:26,720 --> 00:54:31,560
A lot of it is like the prosecution getting a better understanding of what his relationship

1066
00:54:31,560 --> 00:54:38,680
with Grant was and then they focus on some logistical stuff.

1067
00:54:38,680 --> 00:54:44,920
They talk about the blueprint of the house and things like that, where certain things

1068
00:54:44,920 --> 00:54:46,520
are and all that other stuff.

1069
00:54:46,520 --> 00:54:53,080
I think it's more to establish exactly how the murders occurred.

1070
00:54:53,080 --> 00:54:56,320
Yeah, like that across the place.

1071
00:54:56,320 --> 00:54:58,520
Like a little bit of a backup for the prosecution.

1072
00:54:58,520 --> 00:55:00,920
But he did get very emotional.

1073
00:55:00,920 --> 00:55:01,920
I mean, yeah.

1074
00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:02,920
How do you not?

1075
00:55:02,920 --> 00:55:09,120
And he felt like he had dealt with his own bouts of depression and things like that.

1076
00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:11,840
But I'm glad that he was there to help.

1077
00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:20,200
He helped his family by being able to be there, being able to testify and say that, no, don't

1078
00:55:20,200 --> 00:55:22,280
let them defame my dad.

1079
00:55:22,280 --> 00:55:24,760
My dad was a good man.

1080
00:55:24,760 --> 00:55:31,760
He had the unique opportunity to shed light on his perception and experiences with the

1081
00:55:31,760 --> 00:55:32,760
family growing up.

1082
00:55:32,760 --> 00:55:35,560
He was the only other person besides Grant that can do that.

1083
00:55:35,560 --> 00:55:36,560
Exactly.

1084
00:55:36,560 --> 00:55:41,360
And if Jason wasn't around, the defense could have had a better angle, honestly.

1085
00:55:41,360 --> 00:55:42,360
Absolutely.

1086
00:55:42,360 --> 00:55:43,360
Absolutely.

1087
00:55:43,360 --> 00:55:44,360
Well, good case.

1088
00:55:44,360 --> 00:55:45,360
Thanks for sharing.

1089
00:55:45,360 --> 00:55:48,560
It was pretty intense researching.

1090
00:55:48,560 --> 00:55:51,240
Seems like you can find a lot of that information online when you start.

1091
00:55:51,240 --> 00:55:56,680
So just be weary if you don't like to see testimonies or you don't really care to see

1092
00:55:56,680 --> 00:55:57,680
court things.

1093
00:55:57,680 --> 00:56:00,920
It does seem like that was popping up a lot in your research.

1094
00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:01,920
So just to let everyone know.

1095
00:56:01,920 --> 00:56:03,440
Yeah, for sure.

1096
00:56:03,440 --> 00:56:07,000
There's not the photos that are out there aren't too graphic.

1097
00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:10,160
There is unfortunately one of Cody.

1098
00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:11,160
But everything's covered.

1099
00:56:11,160 --> 00:56:12,600
You don't really see anything.

1100
00:56:12,600 --> 00:56:16,000
It's more of just the position that he was in.

1101
00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:18,080
And then there's another.

1102
00:56:18,080 --> 00:56:24,320
There's a few shots of just blood, which I'm glad they privatized all that stuff because

1103
00:56:24,320 --> 00:56:27,800
I don't feel like people should have access to that kind of stuff.

1104
00:56:27,800 --> 00:56:28,800
Of course not.

1105
00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:30,600
Oh, thanks everyone for joining us again.

1106
00:56:30,600 --> 00:56:32,840
And thanks again for being patient with us this last week.

1107
00:56:32,840 --> 00:56:34,240
It's been wild.

1108
00:56:34,240 --> 00:56:39,600
But now that we are both done with school and able to kind of take on some more projects,

1109
00:56:39,600 --> 00:56:41,760
maybe we'll get some more cases out here.

1110
00:56:41,760 --> 00:56:46,720
I've actually been kind of stirring my mind about another bonus segment that I want to

1111
00:56:46,720 --> 00:56:47,720
share with you.

1112
00:56:47,720 --> 00:56:48,720
I don't see what you think.

1113
00:56:48,720 --> 00:56:49,720
Just something to chew on.

1114
00:56:49,720 --> 00:56:52,880
But in the meantime, while you're waiting for the mental breakdown, you can follow us

1115
00:56:52,880 --> 00:56:54,800
on Instagram at Diagnosing a Killer.

1116
00:56:54,800 --> 00:56:56,880
We have Twitter at KillerDiagnosis.

1117
00:56:56,880 --> 00:57:00,440
Gmail at DiagnosingAKiller at gmail.com.

1118
00:57:00,440 --> 00:57:03,840
We also have a Patreon at patreon.com slash DiagnosingAKiller.

1119
00:57:03,840 --> 00:57:09,080
And if you want to see that Great Day SA segment of us, you can Google Great Day SA 1217 2021

1120
00:57:09,080 --> 00:57:10,080
and it'll pop right up.

1121
00:57:10,080 --> 00:57:11,080
Woo!

1122
00:57:11,080 --> 00:57:12,080
Thanks for listening guys.

1123
00:57:12,080 --> 00:57:13,080
We'll see you soon.

1124
00:57:13,080 --> 00:57:14,080
Thanks.

1125
00:57:14,080 --> 00:57:15,080
Love you.

1126
00:57:15,080 --> 00:57:22,080
Bye.