1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:07,360 Hello! Hello! Welcome back to diagnosing a killer, the mental breakdown. 2 00:00:07,360 --> 00:00:09,520 That's down. 3 00:00:09,520 --> 00:00:39,480 I have a good mental breakdown for everybody today. 4 00:00:39,480 --> 00:00:46,240 So, as you might remember, if you did listen to the Zachary Bowen case, and if you didn't, 5 00:00:46,240 --> 00:00:49,240 please go listen because it's a very great case. 6 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:53,240 He suffered from PTSD, so I'm going to be talking about post-traumatic stress disorder 7 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:54,240 today. 8 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:55,800 We're going to get right into it. 9 00:00:55,800 --> 00:00:56,800 I'm Kenna, by the way. 10 00:00:56,800 --> 00:00:57,800 I'm Coelle. 11 00:00:57,800 --> 00:01:02,160 If you haven't recognized the difference in our voices yet, it's Kenna speaking. 12 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:07,440 So post-traumatic stress disorder, commonly known as PTSD, which I'll refer to it as 13 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:12,280 PTSD, is a psychiatric disorder that may occur in people who have experienced or witnessed 14 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:17,160 a traumatic event such as a natural disaster, a serious accident, a terrorist act, war or 15 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:22,120 combat, or rape, or who have been threatened with death, sexual violence, or serious injury. 16 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:25,640 So there's a lot of other things that can trigger PTSD and cause it. 17 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:28,360 I'm not saying those are the only things, but those are common things. 18 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:30,760 So PTSD has been known by many names in the past. 19 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:32,160 Shell Shock was a really big one. 20 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:33,160 Yeah, Shell Shock. 21 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:37,760 That was during World War I that was used a lot, and actually, combat fatigue, which 22 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:40,240 I didn't know, was used after World War II. 23 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:41,240 Combat fatigue. 24 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:42,240 Wow. 25 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:43,240 Yeah, interesting. 26 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:46,560 But PTSD, like I said, doesn't just happen to combat veterans. 27 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:50,800 It can happen from pretty much anything, like any traumatic event. 28 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:55,600 PTSD can occur in all people of any ethnicity, nationality, or culture, at any age, actually, 29 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:57,160 which I thought that was interesting. 30 00:01:57,160 --> 00:02:03,360 Now PTSD affects approximately 3.5% of US adults every year, and an estimated one in 31 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:07,040 11 people will be diagnosed with PTSD in their lifetime. 32 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:08,040 Jesus. 33 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:11,640 Actually, women are twice as likely as men to have PTSD, really. 34 00:02:11,640 --> 00:02:16,600 And the top three ethnic groups that include United States Latinos, African Americans, and 35 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:21,840 American Indians are disproportionately affected and have higher rates of PTSD than non-Latino 36 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:22,840 whites. 37 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:23,840 Wow. 38 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:27,120 Which makes sense because, you know, there are many, many years of segregation. 39 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:28,120 Disregardation and discrimination. 40 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:29,120 Oh, depression. 41 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:30,120 Yeah. 42 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:33,680 Now, people with PTSD have intense, disturbing thoughts and feelings related to their experience 43 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:36,560 that last very long after the traumatic event has ended. 44 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:39,320 They may relive the event through flashbacks or nightmares. 45 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:43,720 They may feel sadness, fear, or anger, and they may feel attached or even estranged from 46 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:45,360 other people. 47 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:49,920 People with PTSD may avoid situations or people that remind them of the event, and they may 48 00:02:49,920 --> 00:02:54,560 have strong negative reactions to something as ordinary as like a loud noise or someone 49 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:57,200 like touching them in a place, a certain place. 50 00:02:57,200 --> 00:03:01,000 So a diagnosis of PTSD requires exposure to an upsetting traumatic event. 51 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:02,440 It's called exposure therapy. 52 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:06,360 However, the exposure can actually be indirect rather than firsthand. 53 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:10,840 For example, PTSD could occur in an individual simply learning about the violent death of 54 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:15,140 a close family member or friend, and it can also occur as a result of repeated exposure 55 00:03:15,140 --> 00:03:19,200 to horrible details of trauma, such as police officers exposed to details of child abuse 56 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:20,200 cases. 57 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:23,960 So police officers that constantly see these things can develop PTSD from it, which I thought 58 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:24,960 was interesting. 59 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:29,760 So the symptoms of PTSD actually fall into four major categories, and the specific symptoms 60 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:32,640 can vary in severity based on the category. 61 00:03:32,640 --> 00:03:34,640 So the first one is intrusion. 62 00:03:34,640 --> 00:03:40,160 Intrusive thoughts such as repeated and voluntary memories, distressing dreams or flashbacks. 63 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:43,120 Flashbacks can actually be so vivid that the people will actually feel like they're reliving 64 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:45,360 the traumatic experience or actually seeing it. 65 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:48,160 Isn't that so scary? 66 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:50,520 The second category is avoidance. 67 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:54,960 So avoiding reminders of the traumatic event may include avoiding people, places, objects, 68 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:58,920 activities, situations that may trigger the distressing memories. 69 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:02,640 People may try to avoid thinking or remembering the traumatic event, and they may resist talking 70 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:04,360 about what happened or how they feel about it. 71 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:05,360 I do that. 72 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:06,360 I do that. 73 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:08,440 Same disease, first warning. 74 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:09,440 Yeah. 75 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:13,960 Again, we don't want to go into all these details, but just if you haven't heard the last episode 76 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:17,320 when I said it in, you know, Coelle and I have both experienced the same traumatic event 77 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:20,000 a couple of years ago back, and it was very traumatizing. 78 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:22,360 Trauma traumatic six years ago. 79 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:23,360 Yeah. 80 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:26,320 And it's still, let me be real, very real every day. 81 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:29,360 Category three, alterations in cognition and mood. 82 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:33,080 An ability to remember important aspects of the traumatic event. 83 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:36,800 Negative thoughts and feelings leading to ongoing and distorted beliefs about oneself 84 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:37,800 or others. 85 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:42,080 An example, I am bad or no one can be trusted. 86 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:46,520 Distorted thoughts about the cause or consequences of the event leading to wrongly blaming self 87 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:51,120 or other ongoing fear, horror, anger, guilt or shame. 88 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:55,520 This also includes less interest in activities previously enjoyed, feeling detached or estranged 89 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:57,880 and being unable to experience positive emotions. 90 00:04:57,880 --> 00:04:59,400 So having a void of happiness. 91 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:03,360 And the fourth category, alterations in arousal and reactivity. 92 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:07,560 So arousal and reactive symptoms may include being irritable and having angry outbursts, 93 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:11,640 behaving recklessly or in a self-destructive way, being overly watchful of one's surroundings 94 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:15,640 and a suspecting way, me, hypervigilance, that is me, to a T. 95 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:19,640 Being easily startled or having problems concentrating or sleeping. 96 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:22,360 So those are the four categories of symptoms. 97 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:26,480 This just was interesting to me, we'll do an entire mental breakdown on this, but the 98 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:29,800 most closely related condition can be called, there's a couple of them, but one of them 99 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:32,440 that I wanted to note was acute stress disorder. 100 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:36,800 So acute stress disorder occurs in a reaction to a traumatic event just like PTSD and the 101 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:40,800 symptoms are similar, however the symptoms occur between three days and one month after 102 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:41,800 the event. 103 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:42,800 Okay. 104 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:45,160 People with acute stress disorder may relive the trauma, have flashbacks or nightmares, 105 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:49,920 they may feel numb or detached, similarly to PTSD and the symptoms cause major distress 106 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:54,560 and problems, about half of people with acute stress disorder will eventually go on to have 107 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:55,560 PTSD. 108 00:05:55,560 --> 00:06:01,200 Okay, I was going to ask you if it not cures itself, but if it eventually fades. 109 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:02,200 It can, yeah. 110 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:04,920 And so can PTSD actually, and I'll go into that in a second. 111 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:09,440 An estimated 13 to 21% of survivors of car accidents develop acute stress disorder and 112 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:13,960 between 20 and 50% of survivors on assault, rape, or mass shootings develop it, which 113 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:18,480 I thought was interesting to note because there was just that shooting in Michigan. 114 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:21,800 Psychotherapy including cognitive behavior therapy can also help control symptoms and 115 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:24,720 prevent them from getting worse and developing into PTSD. 116 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:29,160 And then we mentioned SSRI, antidepressants, and the last mental breakdown, that is also 117 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:30,600 something that they use to treat it. 118 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:39,240 So yeah, PTSD is very real to a lot of people and I mean, one in 11, that is ridiculous. 119 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:43,840 Yeah, and that's at any point of anyone's life. 120 00:06:43,840 --> 00:06:45,760 Yes, it can happen at any age. 121 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:49,360 I looked up some interesting facts about PTSD. 122 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:53,280 Almost 8 million people in the United States suffer from PTSD. 123 00:06:53,280 --> 00:06:57,840 More women than men develop PTSD, like I said earlier, statistics show about 4% of men develop 124 00:06:57,840 --> 00:07:03,440 PTSD at some point in their life compared to up to 10% of women. 125 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:06,960 Researchers don't know exactly why more women develop PTSD, but it could have something 126 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:10,560 to do with the types of assaults and traumatic events that women may be exposed to, such 127 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:14,040 as sexual abuse as a child or even as an adult. 128 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:17,600 It can actually take years for PTSD symptoms to begin. 129 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:22,480 So something can happen years ago and then you won't develop, you potentially won't develop 130 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:25,320 PTSD for years following. 131 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:29,320 So you must have PTSD symptoms for at least one month for your doctor to make a diagnosis. 132 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:32,920 However, it can take several months or even years before the symptoms become obvious enough 133 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:34,520 to interfere with your life. 134 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:38,640 Now, men and women actually can have different PTSD symptoms, which I thought was interesting 135 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:39,640 as well. 136 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:42,960 So things for women are more often related to avoiding anything or any situation that 137 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:44,400 may trigger thoughts. 138 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:48,280 Women can be jumpier and have more difficulty dealing with the emotions that the triggers 139 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:49,280 or memories invoke. 140 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:54,840 On the other hand, men actually become often angrier and they may turn to alcohol or drugs 141 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:56,080 to help cope with their feelings. 142 00:07:56,080 --> 00:07:57,720 That's just statistically speaking. 143 00:07:57,720 --> 00:08:04,720 And like I said earlier about the flashbacks, that's just one aspect of one symptom category, 144 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:07,040 but some people don't have flashbacks at all. 145 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:11,520 And that's a very common, you say PTSD, you think World War II veteran that has flashbacks 146 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:12,520 at the core. 147 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:13,520 Yeah. 148 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:16,920 Some people only have the memory without the strong flashbacks and others with no flashbacks 149 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:17,920 at all. 150 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:18,920 So I thought that was interesting. 151 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:21,480 Lastly, you don't have to be a trauma victim to develop PTSD. 152 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:23,920 I told you many things can cause it. 153 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:28,080 You can also develop PTSD if someone close to you was in a traumatic situation or if 154 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:30,840 someone you lost was injured or died. 155 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:33,480 So you can have, it's almost like PSP. 156 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:34,720 PSD by proxy? 157 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:36,320 A PTSD by proxy. 158 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:37,320 Yeah, exactly. 159 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:41,440 Again, like I said earlier, it can occur among first responders and other professionals 160 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:44,960 who work with trauma victims like emergency room doctors and psychiatrists. 161 00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:46,400 Psychiatrists and psychologists actually. 162 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:52,800 So I did something different for this mental breakdown. 163 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:56,440 And I looked up celebrities that suffer from PTSD. 164 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:57,440 Wow. 165 00:08:57,440 --> 00:08:58,440 Right? 166 00:08:58,440 --> 00:09:01,840 What are the unique things to bring to the table? 167 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:07,720 So number one who I love and adore, Ariana Grande has PTSD. 168 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:11,200 She opened up about her struggles, her trigger for her PTSD. 169 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:17,120 She was at a concert in Manchester United Kingdom in 2017 and there was a suicide bomber 170 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:20,160 actually at her concert and it killed 22 people. 171 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:21,160 And she developed PTSD. 172 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:22,400 I didn't hear about this. 173 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:23,400 Yeah. 174 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:24,400 Yeah. 175 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:25,400 It was a big thing. 176 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:28,440 She like didn't perform for a while after that. 177 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:30,000 She actually got a brain scan done. 178 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:33,880 It showed the physical impact of the PTSD on her brain. 179 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:39,120 And she publicly shared the brain scan with her fans on Instagram and she famously stated 180 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:41,520 that therapy saved her life. 181 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:42,520 Wow. 182 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:43,520 I love her so much. 183 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:47,080 I literally have goosebumps because I love her so much. 184 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:48,080 Whoopie Goldberg. 185 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:49,080 I love Whoopie. 186 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:50,800 She's also ADHD. 187 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:53,920 That's part of the reason I love Whoopie is. 188 00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:54,920 Oh yeah. 189 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:58,320 Yeah, because she was like, her and Robin Williams were like people I looked up to when I was 190 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:03,160 a kid because they were both diagnosed with ADHD and I had ADHD so I have ADD. 191 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:08,680 So she actually said that she has a panic attack every time she boards a plane. 192 00:10:08,680 --> 00:10:11,080 Well she flies all over the world all the time, right? 193 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:12,080 I know. 194 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:16,920 She said in 1978 she was standing on a balcony in San Diego enjoying the view when she witnessed 195 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:18,800 a plane crash mid-flight. 196 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:19,800 Oh my god. 197 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:22,400 Since then she's been terrified ever since. 198 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:23,400 Oh my god. 199 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:27,560 She says, quote, if I see it, it lives in my brain due to being a visual person. 200 00:10:27,560 --> 00:10:28,560 Yeah. 201 00:10:28,560 --> 00:10:29,560 Number three, Mick Jagger. 202 00:10:29,560 --> 00:10:31,560 Got the moves like Jagger. 203 00:10:31,560 --> 00:10:32,560 Yes. 204 00:10:32,560 --> 00:10:33,560 I like got the moves like Jaeger. 205 00:10:33,560 --> 00:10:34,560 Have you seen those names? 206 00:10:34,560 --> 00:10:35,560 No. 207 00:10:35,560 --> 00:10:36,560 It's just like people passed out drunk. 208 00:10:36,560 --> 00:10:38,080 Oh no, that's terrible. 209 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:44,880 So Mick Jagger developed PTSD after his 49-year-old long-term partner, Loren Scott, took her 210 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:46,600 own life. 211 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:51,400 After one month of acute traumatic stress disorder, he got diagnosed with PTSD. 212 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:56,960 He was reportedly, quote, deeply upset when his mental condition was shared with the world. 213 00:10:56,960 --> 00:11:00,120 And it was noted here that it says, for the rest of us, it's good to see that nobody's 214 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:02,400 immune to suffering from PTSD. 215 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:03,400 Jacqueline Kennedy? 216 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:04,400 Or Jackie Kennedy? 217 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:05,400 Jackie Oh. 218 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:06,400 Yes. 219 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:07,400 Well, she witnessed JFK's assassination. 220 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:08,400 So of course she's going to tell. 221 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:09,400 Yeah. 222 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:10,400 How do you not have PTSD? 223 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:11,400 I'm sorry. 224 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:12,400 But like, ugh. 225 00:11:12,400 --> 00:11:15,760 She suffered in silence and little was known about her struggles until Barbara Lemming 226 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:21,560 wrote a book about her story and outlines her emotional struggles that were hidden behind, 227 00:11:21,560 --> 00:11:24,840 you know, glamour, media and stuff like that. 228 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:26,040 Monica Sellis. 229 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:28,680 She was a tennis player, or she's a famous tennis player. 230 00:11:28,680 --> 00:11:32,360 And by the age of 16, she was actually the Grand Slam winner, which is awesome. 231 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:37,440 She was literally stabbed in the back with a nine-inch kitchen knife at the age of 19 232 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:38,600 at a match in Hamburg. 233 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:39,600 What? 234 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:40,600 This event? 235 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:41,600 Is this an event killer? 236 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:42,600 Yes. 237 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:43,600 I don't know if they tried to kill her. 238 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:44,600 Just injure her. 239 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:45,600 This event combined. 240 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:46,600 It's like that's a pretty big knife to a knot. 241 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:48,600 Nine-inch knife. 242 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:52,600 So this event, getting stabbed, combined with learning that her father actually had terminal 243 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:58,960 cancer around the same time led to her developing PTSD and also an eating disorder. 244 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:02,200 She said she's learned to, quote, live in the moment and had a comeback before retiring 245 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:03,200 from tennis. 246 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:06,120 She worked through the loneliness and stress by herself and she learned to love herself 247 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:07,120 again. 248 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:09,680 So she had mentioned that she gained a lot of weight during these two years after her 249 00:12:09,680 --> 00:12:13,880 traumatic event, and she actually wrote a book about self-image called Getting a Grip 250 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:15,880 on My Body, My Mind, Myself. 251 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:17,280 So I'll have to look into that. 252 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:18,280 Shia LaBeouf. 253 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:19,280 Shia LaBeouf. 254 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:21,280 Running for your life from Shia LaBeouf. 255 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:23,280 Shia LaBeouf. 256 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:24,280 Press the link in my face. 257 00:12:24,280 --> 00:12:25,280 Shia LaBeouf. 258 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:26,280 Literally. 259 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:27,280 If you haven't heard that song, please listen to that song. 260 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:29,280 It's Rob Cantor's Shia LaBeouf. 261 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:31,560 And Shia LaBeouf is in it, so he's in on that joke. 262 00:12:31,560 --> 00:12:33,560 Yeah, he's not being exploited. 263 00:12:33,560 --> 00:12:36,560 Well, not in that song. 264 00:12:36,560 --> 00:12:39,120 It's not in that song. 265 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:42,720 In 2018, Shia LaBeouf opened up about his struggles with PTSD. 266 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:45,960 He said his parents separated when he was just three years of age, and at this time, 267 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:48,480 he actually overheard his mom being raped. 268 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:50,280 Yes, at three. 269 00:12:50,280 --> 00:12:51,720 Oh my God. 270 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:54,880 His emotional battles were very much hidden, of course. 271 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:58,000 Became very apparent when he was, you know, of course, arrested for public drunkenness 272 00:12:58,000 --> 00:12:59,000 and disorderly conduct. 273 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:01,000 We all heard about that. 274 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:04,120 Since he was a child, he's always lived with the fear of someone coming after him or his 275 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:05,120 mom. 276 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:08,280 And he says, quote, I've always thought somebody was coming in. 277 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:12,520 And while he was in rehab for his substance abuse, he found out that he was diagnosed 278 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:13,520 with PTSD. 279 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:16,280 If nobody's seen Honey Boy, you have to watch that movie. 280 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:17,280 We haven't seen that. 281 00:13:17,280 --> 00:13:20,760 It's based off of his life, loosely. 282 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:22,160 I wouldn't say loosely even. 283 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:27,960 I feel like some of the accounts are very real, but he plays his own father. 284 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:29,960 And it's haunting. 285 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:32,200 Yeah, I bet. 286 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:35,280 It's just, it really gives you a lot of insight into the way that he's thinking. 287 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:39,440 I feel like he gets a bad, I don't want to say he gets a bad, I feel like he's done some 288 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:43,120 pretty bad things and things that he should be held accountable for. 289 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:52,400 But again, when your mind is affected by a disorder, and you don't know it, then it's, 290 00:13:52,400 --> 00:13:58,040 again, when we talked about obsessive-compulsive disorder, we talked about how if you have 291 00:13:58,040 --> 00:14:04,480 a good affair or a poor insight of what your disorder is, then it can affect how you approach 292 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:06,120 it and to recognize it. 293 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:07,120 Yeah, absolutely. 294 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:10,840 Again, if it goes undiagnosed or untreated and you don't know how to deal with your 295 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:13,560 disorder, it can exacerbate the problems. 296 00:14:13,560 --> 00:14:14,560 Of course. 297 00:14:14,560 --> 00:14:19,840 Another one that I have is another one of my favorite celebrities, singers, Elana Smorset. 298 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:20,840 Oh, Elana! 299 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:25,160 I know, so she is a self-confessed attention junkie. 300 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:29,280 However, her sudden unexpected rise to fame actually left her suffering panic attacks 301 00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:31,280 and depression. 302 00:14:31,280 --> 00:14:36,600 She said as an isolated person, people observing her every move becomes intolerable, and she 303 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:41,640 also was quoted as saying, it's taken a lot of work and therapy to not be suicidal. 304 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:43,280 I know, and I love her. 305 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:45,320 She also struggled with addiction and therapy. 306 00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:49,000 She said that she worked through love addiction, sex addiction, and addiction in general. 307 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:54,360 I think just that sudden rise to fame was kind of what triggered her PTSD. 308 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:57,080 I feel like we hear this name a lot in these mental breakdowns. 309 00:14:57,080 --> 00:14:58,080 Lady Gaga. 310 00:14:58,080 --> 00:14:59,080 Lady Gaga. 311 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:01,880 Yeah, she struggles with so many different diagnoses. 312 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:04,080 Man, I really feel for her. 313 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:06,080 She is fucking phenomenal. 314 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:09,280 She opened up about her PTSD. 315 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:13,480 She said that she suffers from it because she was raped by an older man in her Catholic 316 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:14,760 school when she was 19. 317 00:15:14,760 --> 00:15:16,080 Oh my gosh. 318 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:19,760 She opened up many times about how the trauma has long-lasting effects, where she relives 319 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:23,000 the experience, like we said, the flashbacks. 320 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:28,240 She has therapy that helps to work on her symptoms, and the symptoms of PTSD were actually 321 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:29,880 affecting her work at that point. 322 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:31,920 Yeah, PTSD is a threat, man. 323 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:33,720 It really is. 324 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:37,800 And she actually won an award at the SAG, After Foundation's third annual patron of 325 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:40,000 the artist. 326 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:44,120 During her speech, she called the mental health epidemic a quote, crisis of epic proportions, 327 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:45,920 which I completely agree with. 328 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:49,080 Lastly, I have Charlize Theron. 329 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:52,800 She said that she had a traumatic experience during her childhood that has haunted her 330 00:15:52,800 --> 00:15:54,200 throughout her life. 331 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:59,440 Now when she was 15, her father, who was an alcoholic, threatened to kill her mother, 332 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:00,680 and she shot him. 333 00:16:00,680 --> 00:16:01,680 Charlize did. 334 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:02,680 Charlize did? 335 00:16:02,680 --> 00:16:04,200 Yeah, killing him in self-defense. 336 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:05,200 Wow. 337 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:10,720 The trauma led to very hard drug use, including molly, acid, mushrooms, and cocaine. 338 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:13,680 And she used to explain herself as a quote, wake and bake her. 339 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:15,160 I mean, like, who isn't? 340 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:16,160 She's so cute. 341 00:16:16,160 --> 00:16:20,600 Theron, now 43, and a single mother of two says that therapy has helped her create a 342 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:21,800 great life for her kids. 343 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:22,800 That's great. 344 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:25,680 She's the one that plays Eileen Warnows in Monster. 345 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:26,680 Oh, okay. 346 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:27,680 Yeah, that makes sense. 347 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:30,360 And they, I mean, she just doesn't look like Charlize Theron. 348 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:31,360 Yeah, no. 349 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:32,960 I love Theron from Methus. 350 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:33,960 I love her, Methus. 351 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:34,960 So good. 352 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:38,820 This was a little bit of a shorter, little tiny little nibble mental breakdown, but 353 00:16:38,820 --> 00:16:42,340 I thought it was appropriate to do PTSD just because you know, Zachary Bowen, again, if 354 00:16:42,340 --> 00:16:45,720 you have a listen to that episode, please do so, because it's very interesting. 355 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:46,760 And I think I did a good job. 356 00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:50,880 I think it's definitely important to raise awareness for that, especially, not, especially, 357 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:56,920 not discounting anybody's post-traumatic stress disorder, but for veterans, it's so 358 00:16:56,920 --> 00:16:57,920 huge. 359 00:16:57,920 --> 00:16:58,920 Yeah, of course. 360 00:16:58,920 --> 00:16:59,920 Of course. 361 00:16:59,920 --> 00:17:03,960 It's so huge out to actually get a sign in your front yard that you can post 4th of 362 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:05,760 July and for New Year's. 363 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:09,360 And it's kind of just like a, hey, heads up, a veteran lives here, like, be kind with 364 00:17:09,360 --> 00:17:10,360 your fireworks or things like that. 365 00:17:10,360 --> 00:17:11,560 Yeah, wow, that's really cool. 366 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:12,560 It is really cool. 367 00:17:12,560 --> 00:17:16,640 And that's something that's definitely needed to piggyback off of that. 368 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:20,440 There's actually a veterans crisis hotline that I want to give you guys. 369 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:25,240 It's 1-800-273-8255. 370 00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:28,160 And it says to press 1, I guess that's the extension. 371 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:30,280 It probably navigates you from there. 372 00:17:30,280 --> 00:17:35,440 But that is a veteran's specific hotline. 373 00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:38,480 If you're, of course, if you're having an emergency call 9-1-1. 374 00:17:38,480 --> 00:17:39,480 Yeah, of course. 375 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:42,920 But yeah, to speak to somebody about your PTSD. 376 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:43,920 Yeah, absolutely. 377 00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:45,080 It's also run by veterans. 378 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:46,800 So it's veterans talking to veterans. 379 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:47,800 Okay, cool. 380 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:48,800 Cool. 381 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:49,800 Yeah, it's an awesome support option. 382 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:51,880 Safe space for sure. 383 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:54,840 So I'm sure that you guys have noticed when you've been watching the episodes, if you 384 00:17:54,840 --> 00:17:58,120 read the show notes, but I did want to bring it to light just because I haven't said it 385 00:17:58,120 --> 00:17:59,120 on the podcast yet. 386 00:17:59,120 --> 00:18:03,360 But we are now going to be posting the National Suicide Hotline and the Trevor Project numbers 387 00:18:03,360 --> 00:18:05,960 on every single one of our shows on the show notes. 388 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:11,960 So please utilize those if you feel like you're in a situation that you need to. 389 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:16,240 But we do want to have a constant reminder out there that we love you guys. 390 00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:20,200 You guys are so loved and we really appreciate everybody listening to us. 391 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:23,200 And we want everybody to feel like they have a safe space that they can run to if they 392 00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:24,480 feel like they're in crisis. 393 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:29,920 I think especially with us doing this, it's honestly allowed me to be a little bit more 394 00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:35,360 introspective into what I feel like my own mind has to offer me. 395 00:18:35,360 --> 00:18:38,040 And then it also starts a conversation with me and friends too. 396 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:43,000 So I'm really thankful and grateful for that because it's conversations that I might not 397 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:44,440 otherwise be having. 398 00:18:44,440 --> 00:18:51,560 And so I think I would hope that this could also help facilitate that. 399 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:59,000 We spread more awareness about mental illnesses and mental disorders and that we, again, it's 400 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:02,160 opening the gate to talk about it. 401 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:04,560 So yeah, I love that those numbers are out there. 402 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:07,400 Again, if there's an emergency, call 911. 403 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:08,480 Don't call the hotline. 404 00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:12,000 But if you need somebody to talk to or you need references, you need to know where to 405 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:19,440 go to find the best therapy for you or even if it's a group therapy, they have those resources 406 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:20,440 there. 407 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:21,920 You need to call someone, call them. 408 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:22,920 Yeah, of course. 409 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:27,960 And please, I said this before, I think the last mental breakdown was the one before, 410 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:33,240 but please reach out, utilize your free resources, talk to your friends, talk to your family. 411 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:37,560 People are not as off-putting as sometimes that your anxiety can make you believe because 412 00:19:37,560 --> 00:19:42,280 I feel like I sound like a broken record a lot, but I'm always reassured by you guys 413 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:44,560 and your friends and that's not true. 414 00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:45,640 It can feel isolating. 415 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:46,640 Of course. 416 00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:47,640 Of course. 417 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:48,640 So thank you guys all for listening. 418 00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:49,640 Yeah. 419 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:52,320 I hope you guys have a new case coming out next week. 420 00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:55,120 I already started researching and it's a good one. 421 00:19:55,120 --> 00:19:56,120 Excline it. 422 00:19:56,120 --> 00:19:59,640 And yeah, so we'll see you guys soon. 423 00:19:59,640 --> 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