Try again. Hello. Let's see if this is gonna work this time. I feel like the processing time is so much quicker
Yeah, it doesn't sound like it's what this is gonna drive me crazy
Fucking nuts
I don't know why it's it's just out of her do that right and now it's all of this out of now all the sudden the cords are everywhere
The clocks the clock because it's tangled. Maybe I don't know
Oh my god, it's gonna drive me insane
The computer towards me
Hello
Oh, oh witness us in our finest moment so thankful that's everyone we didn't even realize
I'm Koelle. I'm Kenna and welcome back to diagnosing a killer
Cute Casey is texting me
Already I
Usually never have my phone on loud. Oh, I was not on vibrate is like I should turn awesome my thing
I think we should just start this over honestly. So we do have some
News in the true crime world
It was determined today that Brian Laundrie's cause of death was indeed suicide
So that's something just wanting to mention because we had mentioned the Gabby Petito case a few episodes back and also
I'm not sure if anybody's been listening to you know, the current true crime stuff
But there was a case in Tennessee in Kentucky where a young boy was taken
Without the permission of the mom by his father and he also had taken his niece
I won't say the kids names because they are minors
But Jacob Claire was the man that took his son and his niece without permission from their parents
their other parent and the nieces parents and we were very concerned we were crossing our fingers and hoping that this would have a
happy ending and it did the kids were
Spotted by a mom dropping her son off at school and she actually at first she said that she wasn't gonna call and she was like
I don't know like I'm a little you know if you say if you see something say something
But still she was like I wasn't sure if it was you know exactly what I thought it was or if it wasn't she's like
But I went ahead and trusted my gut and I called and the police were able to reunite the kids with their parents
So that's really good. We were hoping for that good news and we got it. So I'm happy that they're they're home
I can't imagine how relieved their parents must feel so glad that they
Um got home safely. Yes, absolutely
So I do have a new case for everybody today and Koel doesn't know what it is
And I don't even know if you know this case even if I do tell you the name excited then so I am going to be
I'm up to the challenge about the case of
Zachary Bowen and Addy Hall on October 17th
2006 around 8 30 p.m.
New Orleans police received a disturbing call from the Omni Royal Orleans Hotel a man's body was on the roof of the parking garage
Upon arriving and seeing the body severely mangled. It was very clear that the man had died on impact
Unsure if they had a murder suicide or a tragic accident on their hands the investigators began searching the body for ID and
The man's back pocket they found a note
It said quote
This is not accidental. I had to take my own life to pay for the one I took
If you send a patrol car to 826 North Rampart
You will find the dismembered corpse of my girlfriend Addy in the oven on the stove and in the fridge
Along with full documentation on the both of us and a full signed confession from myself
Zach Bowen. Yeah, I definitely don't know this case. Oh my god. Okay. I'm really excited because that's a lot
It's a lot of information like already, right and you're like what happened like what?
It's actually a body or just sounds like the beginning of an episode of like NCIS. Yeah
So I'm gonna take it way back to when Zach was born. Oh, okay
Zachary or Zach Bowen was born on May 15th
1978 in Bakersfield, California where he spent the majority of his childhood in California for the most part
He grew up is pretty normal. He was a really well adjusted all American boy people would say about him
However, he's noted as being extremely concerned with letting people down throughout his life
Hmm, and he was terrified to come across to anybody as a failure
He was really scared of letting people down when Zach was in high school
His parents actually got divorced paving away for him to spiral into a really bad depressive state
So he decided to give his life a fresh start somewhere else
He moved from Sacramento, California where he had been living at the time with his mom in attending high school to New Orleans, Louisiana
To live with his father. Okay
Once arriving Zach finished his high school education and proceeded to get a job as a bartender when he was 18
While bartending on Bourbon Street Zach met 28 year old Lana Shoupak
Lana was originally from Florida and worked as a stripper at the time of their meeting. Okay, keep in mind
She's 28 and he's 18. Yeah, a little bit of an age guy, right?
I mean he's an adult but still no Zach and Lana took an immediate interest in each other and began dating pretty quickly
Only after a short time of dating Lana finds out that she's pregnant with Zach's child. Okay
Even though Zach was going to be a young father
He completely embraced the situation and the couple eventually got married. Sure. He's young and dumb. Yeah
Seems like pretty decent so far
When their first child Jackson was born Zach decided to quit his job and better support his family by joining the army
Okay
He later enlisted in the army and served in Kosovo and Iraq tours and during the time in the service
He actually rose to the rank of sergeant. So he was doing pretty well in the military. Yeah
There was a specific incident that it haunted Zach for the rest of his life
He had befriended a young Iraqi boy while he was serving
However, he later found out that the boy was killed days later as punishment for interacting with Americans
So it was really sad. He felt immense survivor guilt and his mental health declined rapidly at this point
So a few years after being on the front lines Zach was generally discharged
So not honorably not not honorably or dishonorably generally because of this situation
This put a lot of stress and sadness on Zach since again a general discharge is not the same as an honor will discharge
He felt as if all of the shit that he had gone through was kind of like for nothing
Yeah, you know regardless
He returns home to New Orleans but begins to have more problems and starts arguing a lot with his wife Lana
Now the tour in the military seemed to take a huge toll on Zach's mental health and he eventually developed PTSD because of it
Yeah, sadly like most military events one source was quoted as saying about Zach and Lana's marriage upon his return quote
According to his wife Lana. He was a completely different person when he returned and they soon faced marital problems and eventual separation
So even though they were no longer together Zach had still had to pay child support at this point
They now had two children together. Yeah, and he actually resumed. Do you have a second baby? It doesn't it didn't say maybe before
So he actually returned to his job as a bartender
Mm-hmm for tourists said like he worked on Bourbon Street again, you know, yeah
Yeah, it's all part of their most of their economy in New Orleans. Yes
So after returning to work as a bartender he very quickly meets head new co-worker of his a girl named Addie Hall
Mm-hmm
Addie was known to many of her friends to be super free spirited extremely creative
She originally grew up in the Northeast and she actually came from a really toxic and abusive household
But once she moved to New Orleans, she was able to be her own individual really free spirited
She actually rode her bike from the French Quarter every day to work and that was her main form of transportation
So like real hippies. Yeah, it's kind of like whatever. She's got a little razor scooter. Yeah
She was noted as being artistic in several ways. She was a dancer an artist a poet and a seamstress. Hmm a lot of traits
Yeah
So she lives an independent bohemian lifestyle like I said in New Orleans
But she too struggles with her own mental health and inner demons
According to many of her friends. She struggled with undiagnosed bipolar disorder. Oh, wow, okay
She was known to get very aggressive and very violent after having too much to drink
So she was one of those doesn't mean drunk, but it was like every yeah, you know
She also had a history of being an abusive relationships and of course she was terrified to fall into another one
Hmm
So meeting Zach
She was very unsure about him at first as she was one of the only girls
Co-workers and customers alike that was not falling all over him. Hmm Zach was a tall attractive man
Everybody wanted to be friends with him. Yeah, everybody wanted a part of him
You know and she was kind of turned off by the idea that everyone wanted him
She's I'm not gonna be you know in the in crowd. Yeah, he's not that great
She doesn't seem like the kind of person that's kind of a follower. Yeah, of course
It doesn't like seems like she like you said she's really free-spirited. Yeah
She eventually they begin talking just you know as co-workers
You can't work with someone and not talk to them and she began to realize that they actually had a lot in common
She started to test the waters by like teasing him in a flirty way to see if he could like handle her
You know, yeah, that she is
Well despite her assumptions Zach was actually really interested in her from the start
Hmm, and he was she was actually the only girl that he was interested in and I guess it was maybe because she wasn't anybody like falling
All over him right no one else. She was the only one
They both shared the same young and crazy lifestyle and they really bonded over it. How old is she? I'm sorry
He's about 27 at this time. She's I think she's very close in age to him as well
So they both loved the nightlife. They loved partying. They both like doing drugs. Of course, they like to drink a lot being bartenders
Being newly single Zach finally felt as if he was able to have fun and let loose with Addy
Yeah, and they're both constantly craving adrenaline and living to the fullest
However, many of their friends thought since they were both constantly fueled on drugs and alcohol
It wasn't going to be a good relationship. Yeah, especially from the start. They were like this is gonna be pretty tumultuous
Now despite their friends judgments
They started their relationship and quickly we're starting to fall in love everything seemed to be going really well for them
But keep in mind it's 2005 and they live in New Orleans
Yeah, so Katrina is quickly approaching their city in the days and weeks leading up to Katrina
Of course many residents were strongly advised to evacuate because it wouldn't be safe
Yeah, in fact Zach was actually asked by Lana to evacuate with her and their children together
Yeah, make sure that baby daddy's okay. Yeah, he refused
Instead he wanted to stay in the city and ride out the storm with Addy in her apartment
So both of them were going to stay and just kind of let it pass
While Lana of course thought this decision was incorrect and reckless and immature
She wasn't able to convince Zach to leave so Zach and Addy proceeded to stay there embrace the storm together along with other residents
I mean, they weren't the only people that stayed yeah
They spent most of their time doing drugs and drinking once the storm was over it passed
They were stranded in like a little community of people. They had no electricity
No running water no air conditioning and very limited resources. Yeah, of course. It's detrimental that storm
Yet they actually loved everything about it
This someone living off the grid post apocalyptic lifestyle
Hmm, they would actually go into like abandoned bars together and like gather the alcohol so that they could make cocktails for people
What yeah, and they would make cocktails in exchange for people's like food and water
So they were kind of like bartending without water
Land yeah
They would light debris and mattresses on fire in the street to cook and stay warm at night
Mm-hmm, and everyone that was left behind in New Orleans was having like a big old camping trip pretty much like in their city
Well
This is all fun and games. This is cool
But what happens if something bad happens and they need assistance, right? There's no, you know, emergency services
Yeah, I don't by any means want people to think that we're saying that like oh what a fun time
No, of course. Yeah, I mean it's not like it was a camping trip
Of course if course, but that's how they perceived it right. Yeah, and they were trying to make a what is that the best of a bad situation
Yeah, yeah, so there were police around I don't want to say emergency services, but there were police in case of emergencies
Well in order to keep the police in their area and coming around
Addy would just flash them her breast when they would drive by so that they would continue to come by
Oh my god, it kind of works
patrolling the area like
Yeah, they actually had so much like presence favors, you know all the things they were doing it actually caught the attention of the media
Hmm the couple was even featured in several newspapers including the New York Times
What people were actually describing them as the quote king and queen of Hurricane Katrina survivalists god
How does that not feed an ego right and there was so many pictures if you google their names the first thing that pops up are
These pictures really yeah, go ahead and of course at this point. They were head over heels in love with each other
Yeah, this literally brought them this closest days ever ever been look
This is a picture of them out there in the whole camp. Yeah, yeah, they have to be around the same age
I would think yeah, they ultimately decided this is the way they want to live their lives no rules party whenever no
Responsibility, you don't have to pay for anything children though. He's got two kids
You can't just like not just like oh, I love this life. No responsibility. He thought he could that's awful
Now they thought this whole experience was an adventure and if anything they didn't want civilization civilization to ever return
Yeah, but eventually of course the city slowly started to repopulate build itself back up
Mm-hmm as they progressed again to civilization
And their relationship began to take a downward spiral because they're no longer able to do this free spirit
Do whatever the hell we want yeah, flash your car returning to normal every time that they
Know flash flash cops
Flash their cocks
It's like they're flashing their car
No, I funny no flashing the cops
So their relationship was quickly becoming very toxic
Mm-hmm neither of them were ready to start facing the real world again
They didn't want to pay bills follow a routine go to work
They just wanted to camp out in Louisiana whatever go out to the mountains right Zach of course like we said no longer wanted a co-parent
He never wanted to play pay child support or even deal with his ex-wife Lana. That's awful
On the other hand adi didn't want those responsibilities that came with Zach the kids and all that stuff
Yeah, she only wanted him not his life. Does that make sense? Yeah, so at this point the honeymoon phase quickly ended
She didn't want the responsibility right yeah, it's like stupid because you knew what you were walking into yeah
And on top of this they were both using an extreme amount of drugs and alcohol
Yeah, still one of their friends who actually went by the nickname squirrel said he supplied both of them during this time with a steady
Squirrel yes, okay, he said he supplied both of them during during this time with a steady stream of cocaine
Yeah, cocaine to any situation like that. Yeah, especially when people are avid drinkers
Yes, and according to a lot of their friends. They said that they were constantly arguing and complaining about the other person to like their friends
So yeah, it's one of those relationships
So their fights became much more explosive when the couple had a lot of physical and altercations
Yeah, they were also noted as being in a constant cycle of breaking up and getting back together
Unfortunately, they were still both hooked on chasing the highs and lows of frequently pushing the other one away and then chasing them back down to get back together
They like liked that they like thrived on that. Yeah, there's no there's never a dull moment
Yeah, so after a few months of this this abusive and toxic relationship the
Relationship state completely deteriorated. Mm-hmm Zach wanted out for good
But Addy tricked him into giving her one final chance
I think before this they were living together and he was I think I heard somewhere and on another podcast I listened to that
He was trying to hang out with the kids
But Addy like didn't want to be in the Atlanta wasn't comfortable with the kids being with him and Addy unless she met Addy
Yeah, okay, like let me hear her and then we can exactly let me meet her and then I don't care
You can have the kids over but then Addy like met her and was like so nice like oh my god
I'm so excited to see the kids and then when the kids came over she like completely ignored them
It was like rude to them and stuff. She didn't want his life like we said
Yeah, it sounds like I have heard that where significant others
Won't let their partners see their own children because those children come from a previous relationship and you're so controlling
Yeah, you like every time you see that kid it reminds you of which is like
Partner amateur yeah, like children are individuals as well
Yeah, like just because they can't help where they biologically come from yeah screams your insecurities
Yeah, absolutely like you should only be supportive of the fact that you know that your partner is half of those children
Yeah, yeah, so like I had said Zach wanted out of the relationship
But Addy tricked him into giving her a final chance
So she asked him if he wanted to start fresh with her and move back into an apartment together
So she was gonna she's like, okay, we're gonna put everything away and passes to pass. Let's start over
Is she gonna get a job this time? She had an ulterior motive
Okay, they walked down Rampart Street and came across it for rent sign an apartment above the famed voodoo temple at the time was
Immediately available and with months worth of tits in their pockets because they had both returned to work as bartending
Okay, as bartenders. Yeah, they made an offer right away and they moved into a 26 north Rampart. Oh
Remember for the beginning. Yeah, it was foreshadowing and you didn't even know it Zach actually paid the first two months of rent in advance
And the lease was put in both of their names. Okay. Well, the scrimmy matches continued, of course
Yeah, and Zach actually became unfaithful
So he was known around the quarter for his looks like I said didn't have a problem with little flings with yeah around
This was the last straw for Addy
And again, I told you that he paid two months rent in advance
Mm-hmm. She went to the landlord a few days later and put the lease in her name only and kicked Zach out later that night
Well, how can she do that?
So she had asked him to remove Zach from the lease the landlord refused it advised her to work out her issues with the boyfriend on her
Own yeah, so maybe she just told him that she put it on her name only and you like you have to leave because you're not alone
I see yeah, but the the conversation with the landlord which was unfortunately the last time that anybody saw Addy alive
Damn
Once Zach learned of this of course, he was very angry and became inconsolable
Yeah, pretty quickly getting scammed and kicked out of his apartment was his final straw
So she said that she wanted to like make everything better
She got she they found the apartment Zach was like oh, yeah
Like we'll have everything work out like we'll get an apartment together
She knew that he was gonna do that like she paid for the apartment
Yeah, like she got she told him that she wanted to work things out knowing that he had enough money to pay for rent in advance
And then she knew what she was gonna do like as soon as the rent was paid
She was gonna tell him to fuck off. That's awful. I mean, she doesn't deserve to get killed for it
But yes, it is well, no, but you know, yeah, it's fucked up so toxic on
Yeah, now remember like I said Zach had been diagnosed with PTSD
And at this point he was brutally abusing all types of drugs and alcohol. Yeah, this was a recipe for disaster
Yeah on the 9th of October 5th 2006 Zach returned to the apartment to wait for Addy
I guess she had gone out to get something and upon her return. There was a heated argument
Zach strangled Addy to death in the apartment in his own words. He quote calmly strangled her until she died
Jesus, yeah, it's horrifying
When he killed Addy, he was both in a very intoxicated state as well as reaching a boiling breaking point in his
mental health
After Addy was gone Zach actually committed necrophilia and fell asleep next to her corpse
Bukh, I know
When he woke up he got dressed and ready for work like it was a normal day
Leaving Addy's body in the apartment eventually in the following days after her murder
He had a very disturbing strategy when it came to disposing her body content warning
He brought her body into the bathtub and started to cut her apart using a knife and a hacksaw
And these parts of her body that were cut were put in pots and pans and then stored in the fridge on the stove and in the oven
What police originally thought that this might have been linked to cannibalism, but they weren't able to prove that
I mean, I'm sorry to go back to it, but like
It's on top of a voodoo shop. Yeah, like that's
Scary that'll come back around and I know
It became clear to police after you know, Zach's suicide. They looked at his digestive system
There was no human remains or flesh. So the only purpose of the dismemberment and the pots and pans
I guess was disposal. Yeah, this sounds really grotesque
I don't know. Was it on like the oven?
Okay, well there it has been instances where people do that where they cook
People just to dispose of them. I I do believe that it was
It was on or it was on at some point. Yeah, maybe not when police arrived. There was a potential for that
Yeah, I think that he brought I mean, I don't know the fact that he left out there and then went you know and
Killed himself that she died on October 5th and they didn't find him till October 17th
So he was like two weeks. He must have I'm sorry, but he must have sobered up and been like the fuck am I doing?
Like yeah
Now during this time between Addie's death and Zach's death
They said a lot of his friends said that he started to act very strange and was a lot quieter than normal
Since they had a lot of mutual friends, of course people start asking where the hell she went
Yeah, and Zach was so inseparable. He would just say that she went back to North Carolina where she was originally from
Some friends were surprised by the answer because they were like what others not so much because she was such a free spirit
Yeah, I mean I could see I could see it. Yeah and her bipolar disorder made her very unpredictable
Right, so it seemed fitting to people that during this time in their relationship that she would run back north, you know
But obviously this is like let me come check out your new apartment. Yeah
I don't know like I don't know there are people again. There might have been suspicions
It's like when we talked about the Kristen Gilbert case like there was suspicions
Nobody ever really wants to believe that. So it's kind of like
Oh sure drugs are going missing however, like oh, you're the angel of death
Yeah, so obviously this is all a lie and Zach knew exactly what happened
Um, he finally came to a realization about what he was doing and completely fell apart
Yeah, he metaphorically and physically beat himself to death over feeling no sense of empathy when he murdered his girlfriend
He felt he felt shitty for not feeling shitty. Yeah
It was at this point where he truly let go
Uh days before taking his own life. He went to the absolute max level when it came to partying
He went into overdrive. He spent thousands of dollars at this trip club drinking doing drugs
He slept with multiple people multiple prostitutes other women. I mean, he probably knew it was gonna kill him. Oh, of course
Uh, as soon as he spent the last of his money
He went to the rooftop of the Omni Royal Hotel on the 17th of October
He opened up a tab on the roof bar rooftop bar and drank to the point of being blackout drunk
The security cameras at the hotel actually captured him approaching the terrace and looking over it several times
He was like contemplating. Yeah
Finally, he drank a final drink and then threw himself to his death
The police also noticed that Zach's body was covered in bruises that didn't look like they correlated with his jump. Yeah
Um, it turns out
In one source it said that the bruises were self-inflicted
One account said they were bruises, but another one said that they were cigarette burns. Hmm. There was 28 to be exact
As they represented every year that he was a failure. That's a quote from his confession
Wow, he was 28 years old
I just got like the heaves in the jeeps
Yeah, that's horrible
Now I'm gonna go back to right after the police find this note and then we're gonna go from there
Police of course rushed to the address listed and came upon
Something out of a horror film. Yeah in order to prevent Addy's remains from decomposing slower and not smelling the temperature
And the apartment was turned down to 60 degrees
So it was like a he did that on purpose the police said that the temperature and smell felt similar to a meat locker
Wow, the bathroom was cleaned of Addy's blood
And Zach had spray painted his thoughts across the walls of the apartment
With statements such as quote. I love her
Quote, I'm a total failure
and quote
Look in the oven
Isn't that so
I hate that everything about that. I have
Full body goosebumps right now. There were instructions to call Zach's ex-wife Lana and tell her that he loved her
One message on the wall directed them to the stove
Content warning on the stove in a pot on one of the burners was a human head burned beyond recognition
In another pot were hands and feet and inside the oven in a large roasting pan where arms and legs also burnt
On a pan
Investigators noticed that there appeared to be seasoning on the limbs and on the counter next to the stove were cut up potatoes and carrots
Inside the refrigerator a large plastic bag. They found the torso
As horrifying as this was for police they would soon find even more disturbing evidence in Addy Hall's journal
Here police found an eight page confession letter written by Zach. The full confession letter is actually not available to read online
Um, but I do have some excerpts from it in the letter Zach explained that he'd quote always known
He was a terrible person and his actions scared him
He said he knew that he had to take his own life in order to pay for the one that he took
So I am going to read an excerpt from the letter quote
Today is monday 16 october 2 a.m. I killed her at 1 a.m. Thursday 5 october. I very calmly strangled her. It was very quick
Halfway through the task. I stopped and thought about what I was doing the decision to halt the first idea and move to plan b
The crime scene you are now standing in came after a while
I scared myself not by the action of calmly strangling the woman
I've loved for one and a half years and then desecrating her body but by my entire
Tire lack of remorse. I've known for forever how horrible of a person I am
Ask anyone and decided to quit my jobs and spend the 1500 cash I had being happy until I killed myself
So that's what I did good food good drugs good strippers good friends and any loose ends I may have had
I didn't contact any of my family so that'll explain the shock and I had fantastic time living out my days
It's just about time now
Isn't that so haunting that is haunting and eerie and terrible
It's not hard like I don't like I feel badly for it. It's like
Like you want to like you almost feel bad for feeling bad like you want to you want to hate him for what he did
But you're like right that guy was hurting so fucking much. You can tell
So I have a little bit of aftermath here. That's that's the whole case
But I have a little bit of aftermath less than a decade after the murder
A woman named Mary quote voodoo queen Milan
Leased the building on rampart street and set up shop as quote bloody Mary haunted museum and tour
For a fee visitors are let into the bowen hall apartment to view the very stove and fridge where adi's remains were found
That's horrifying. Oh my god. This woman. Why wasn't that removed?
Reports are that the apartment was decorated like a horror film complete with fake blood splashes and a bright and groomed set of
Chucky dolls
This like pisses me off this pisses me off too one friend of the couple called
It quote despicable and atrociously exploitative
Milan defends her tours saying that it educates people about the crime and is quoted as saying it'd be stupid to pretend
They weren't here. She said detractors are jealous. They didn't do this first
Ew
literally
However, her website doesn't directly mention the crime scene though Yelp reviews
Definitely confirmed that it's still there and people are very excited to see it. I know
There's no way it's the same stove. She probably put in a new stove and then said that
And when she literally go upstairs was like here's $5,000. I want to buy this apartment as is. I mean
Maybe
I wonder if there's spray paint on the walls. Work your shit out on your own. You probably feel as guilty as fuck
Now in 2017 the TLC series paranormal lockdown actually did an episode inside the apartment
Which notably was no longer decorated like a low budget horror film
The investigators how is that not exploitative?
I don't know the quote unquote investigators reported sensing a cold draft despite the windows being closed and a quote unquote presence in the bathroom
There's a
It's called an air conditioner. Yeah, and the presence is probably a mirror in your crew
But go ahead the our apartment goes down to 60 degrees
That's one of the features that you'll see on the air
So coming full circle, of course what makes this case, you know kind of tug on your heartstrings if you will is that it could have been completely preventable
Yeah, both of their mental health source at such low points that they became an aggressor for the other person like they were feeding off of each other's negative energy
Yeah, they of course both could have gone on to have very successful and happy lives
But the problem was they needed to be apart in order for that to happen
Yeah, that's I mean that's that's absolutely the definition of codependence
Yeah, of course friends of the couple actually described them as normal good people
And they said that perhaps Zach just snapped and killed himself because he couldn't live with what he had done which I believe
Of course, they said maybe maybe Addie was abusive as had been told and maybe Zach always had demons and they finally caught up with him
But all we know for now is that two young people's lives ended very tragically and their story will live on forever
I do think that too. I feel like just what little we've gotten to know about the relationship between Zach and the couple
about Zach Bowen is that he doesn't seem like he was a bad guy
It doesn't seem like and again, I'm not saying like he should have if he had lived he should have paid for the crime
Absolutely, I'm not saying that whatsoever
But I do feel like that his suicide was a result of the guilt that he felt and not him trying to escape
Yeah, absolutely
And the fact that they both had undiagnosed mental health disorders
I mean, I don't know if Zach's PTSD was ever actually diagnosed or if it was just
We can assume he's seen some shit if he's served overseas
So I wanted to quickly mention a side note of a related case because this does kind of relate
It's another case but it kind of relates to this case
So there was actually a documentary done about Zach and Addie as well as other interviews for televisions and online media
And they brought to light a close friend of the couple named Margaret Sanchez
Her tears of devastation at the loss of her quote best friends is unnerving
So she actually pleaded guilty and was subsequently convicted in the 2012 deaths and dismemberment of Jaren Lockhart
Who was a Bourbon Street dancer and young mother
So Margaret and her boyfriend who she knew was Alan at the time
They actually went to a gentleman's club on Bourbon Street and lured Jaren with the promise of a hefty paycheck for a private performance
They took her to their home, stabbed her in the chest, cut up her body and threw it over a bridge
Resulting in her remains washing up on several different Mississippi Gulf Coast beaches
Terry speaks Alan, obviously his name wasn't Alan, he lied
He was a registered sex offender from North Carolina who violated his probation and had a long history that Margaret was unaware of
In 2015 he was convicted of second degree murder following a trial where he fired his attorneys and took his own defense
Idiot. Yeah, that totally works. Always works
So Margaret Sanchez was later sentenced to 40 years plus 20 for a second degree murder charge as well as obstruction of justice and conspiracy to commit murder
And she claimed that she was like really good friends with Zach and Addy?
Yeah, she's like best friends with them
So they were- Was that true?
Yes, so here I'm getting here
Margaret and Terry aka Alan were identified in the surveillance video dated June 6, 2012 from the club that Jaren worked at
One of the employees of the club first reported Alan, Terry, as he recognized him as a previous employee at the club next door
And remember Jaren leading with him and another woman later identified as Margaret Sanchez
The video was broadly distributed on local news channels and Margaret's own brother actually reported them to the authorities
LOL
So six days later on June 12th, the couple was arrested at a traffic stop near their home
When she was interviewed, this is where it comes full circle, she said that she was aware of the dancer's demise
And since it was broadcast on the local news, she was like, oh, I didn't have anything to do with it
But I know who she is because it was on the news or whatever
It was on the news, yeah
She's related that it was similar to how her best friend died and said quote
I feel so bad for her family because I had a friend. My friend was Addy Hall
She was cut up and was cooked and her boyfriend jumped off a hotel
She sounds like the most compassionate person
They're trying to play her out to be like an emotionally vulnerable woman who said that she loved her boyfriend
And he took care of her needs and as far as she was concerned, he was a good man
But when she found out about who he really was, she said quote
I feel betrayed heartbroken. I mean my life was shit when I met him
So the reason I bring this up is because obviously this Margaret lady is dumb and full of shit because she helped him commit the murder and like childless person
But these deaths are frequently compared
These cases are frequently compared the two tragedies of the French Quarter that of Zach and Addy and Jared Lockhart
Interesting
Yeah, so I just wanted to mention that briefly. We might we might do an episode on that case
But that's the case of Zach Boan and Addy Hall. It was a little bit of a I guess mini episode but yeah
I tiny really enjoyed listening to that case and I just thought it was very fitting to what we're talking about
Because of the mental health aspect of it and Zach P.T. with her PTSD and then Addy with her bipolar diagnosis or undiagnosed bipolar
But isn't that wild?
It is wild
Like I mean I feel I feel so badly for both of them and we don't want to feel bad for the killer but we feel bad for the mental influence
Yeah, and clearly it was sounded like a spiral that they couldn't get out of and that's really yeah
I mean even in situations like that like I feel like friends could have kind of spoken up or said something
I really feel like maybe at least Zach might have been receptive to the idea of maybe getting help
Honestly like I mean again like I've been in a domestic violence situation
And I don't feel like a lot of people said anything while I was in it and I feel like if someone had then I might not have been there for five years almost
So yeah, I wonder about that
If they had had somebody to tell them like or be like hey like we're really concerned for you guys like we want you guys to be safe and figure
Figure all this out whether that means they're gonna be together or not you know
And it truly is it really resonates with the whole like you know you can you can do everything right like Lana you know she did everything that she could while still being able to take care of her children properly to help Zach and unfortunately in cases like that if someone's not willing to help themselves and there's really not much else you can do
Except for offer them those resources and hope that they take them you know
So I think we will get more into PTSD I think I'm gonna do that for my next mental breakdown so I'll definitely go into that a little bit more in depth in the mental breakdown but
Thanks for listening I think this is one of my I don't want to say favorite cases that sounds bad but this has been one of my favorite ones to research into
Yeah and to explain for everyone so yeah I think we're probably done
Sounds good yes all right well thank you all for listening
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