Hello! Hello! I'm Kenna. I'm Koelle. Why do I say it like that? I don't know!
Welcome back to diagnosing a killer mental breakdown. Mental breakdown! Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Mental breakdown. Break the breakdown. Break the breakdown. Oh, I like that. Yeah, she keeps that.
Da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da. Mental breakdown. Da-da-da-da-da-da. Mental breakdown.
Da-da-da-da-da-da-da.
Oh, man. I am very, very excited to say that I have not had anxiety in two days. Oh, great. Which
feels like a lifetime for me. Yeah. Um, I went to my therapy appointment that we talked about in the
last mental breakdown and it went really well. Good. And I'm very optimistic for this new chapter and
this new outlook on mental health. So, I'm excited about that for myself. That's really cool. So,
we are going to be talking about depressive disorder. Oh. Specifically, melancholic depressive
disorder. Okay. But just kind of depressive disorder in general. Just all around depression?
Yeah. Yes. Like me every day. Right. The prevalence of depression disorder is very common. There's
more than 3 million United States cases per year. So, toddlers from three to five years is a very
rare. Children think so. Right. So, they have meltdowns all the time. Well, they do, but for other
reasons. Well, you know, depressive disorder is very, very complex. So, from children,
six to 13 years, it's common. Teenagers 14 to 18 is very common and literally from there up,
very common between young adults, adults and seniors. I feel like it should be most common
for seniors because it is very, very... Right. Especially when you start going out as much and
you don't have as many friends as you used to and yeah. Now, I'm going to be talking about major
depressive disorder first. So, just a quick overview. If you're not aware of how depressive
disorder works, depression is a mood disorder that causes a persistent feeling of sadness and loss
of interest. Also called major depressive disorder or clinical depression, it affects how you feel,
think and behave and can lead to a variety of emotional and physical problems. You may have
trouble doing normal day-to-day activities and sometimes you may feel as if life isn't worth
living. Which is a really shitty feeling. Yeah. So, it's more than just a bout of the blues.
Depression isn't a weakness and you simply can't, quote, snap out of it. Depression may require
long-term treatment, but most people with depression feel better with medication, psychotherapy are
both. Now, here are some symptoms of depression. Although depression may only occur once during
your life, people typically have multiple episodes and during these episodes, symptoms occur most of
the day, nearly every day and may include feeling of sadness, tearfulness, emptiness or hopelessness,
angry outburst, irritability or frustration, even over small things. Loss of interest or pleasure
and most are all normal activities such as sex, hobbies or sports, sleep disturbances including
insomnia or sleeping too much, tiredness and lack of energy so even small tasks take extra effort,
reduced appetite and weight loss or increased cravings for food and weight gain, anxiety,
agitation or restlessness, slow thinking, speaking or body movements, feeling of worthlessness or
guilt or fixating on past failures or self-blame, trouble thinking, concentrating, making decisions
and remembering things, frequent or recurrent thoughts of death, suicidal thoughts, suicide
attempts and unexplained physical problems such as back pain or headaches which I did not know was
part of depression. That's a lot of things and I feel like everybody has experienced one or more
of those things. I was like, bro, why are you calling me out like that? Now, for many people
with depression, symptoms usually are severe enough to cause noticeable problems in day-to-day
activities such as work, school, social activities or relationships. Some people may feel generally
miserable or unhappy without really knowing why. So, you know, depression is one of those things
where I feel like it's another term that's really loosely thrown around. Oh, I'm just depressed
or whatever. But clinical depression and depressive disorder is extreme. I mean, we've seen
the first-hand case of it. Extreme to the point where you can't even get out of bed to do things
and it's the helplessness or the hopelessness as the kicker. Right. Because then this doesn't make
you even want to get up. It doesn't make you want to do anything about it either. Exactly.
And you feel like shit for not doing anything about it. Right. That's a cycle, vicious one.
Now, depression symptoms actually differ in teens than they do in adults. So, I'm going to kind of
explain the differences in the symptoms for children and teens and then adults. So, common
signs and symptoms of depression in children and teenagers are similar, but there can be some
differences. So, in younger children, symptoms of depression may include sadness, irritability,
clinginess, worry, aches and pains, refusing to go to school or being underweight. Cleanest. That's
interesting to me. Right. And in teens, symptoms may include sadness, irritability, feeling negative
and worthless, anger, poor performance or poor attendance at school, feeling misunderstood and
extremely sensitive, using recreational drugs or alcohol, eating or sleeping too much, self-harm,
loss of interest in normal activities and avoidance of social interaction.
Again, I just feel like that was just high school. For me, I mean, I never went to school.
And I think that's the difference in the children. They don't have the
cognitive thought about morbidity. And so, they don't think too-
Manifests in different ways. Exactly. In adults, the depression symptoms are a little bit different.
Depression is not a normal part of growing older and it should never be taken lightly.
Unfortunately, depression often goes undiagnosed and untreated in older adults and they may feel
reluctant to seek help. So, symptoms of depression in older adults that may be different or less
obvious, such as memory difficulties or personality changes, physical aches or pain, fatigue,
loss of appetite, sleep problems or loss of interest in sex not caused by a medical condition
or medication, often wanting to stay at home rather than going out and socializing or doing
new things and suicidal thinking or feelings, especially in older men. Older white males are
actually the most common person that will commit suicide in America.
And that's because of social status and social pressure, right?
So, and it says, when to see a doctor, if you feel depressed, make an appointment to
see your doctor or mental health professional as soon as you can. If you're reluctant to seek
treatment, talk to a friend or loved one, any healthcare professional, a faith leader or someone
you trust. Now, there are a bunch of different things that can or are thought to cause depression,
but it's not known exactly what causes it actually. As with many mental disorders, a variety of
factors may be involved, such as biological differences. So, people with depression appear
to have physical changes in their brains, like we were talking about that frontal lobe. The
significance of these changes is still uncertain, but may eventually help pinpoint causes. Brain
chemistry, so neurotransmitters are naturally occurring brain chemicals. Of course, they play a
role. Recent research indicates that changes in the function and effect of these neurotransmitters
and how they interact with neuro circuits involved in maintaining mood stability may play a
significant role in depression and even the treatment of depression. Now, hormones is another
thing. So, changes in the body's balance of hormones may be involved in causing or triggering
depression. Hormone changes can result with pregnancy and during the weeks or months after
delivery, commonly known as postpartum depression, and from thyroid problems, menopause, or a number
of other conditions. And lastly, inherited traits, like we said in the last couple of mental breakdowns,
you can be predisposed to develop a mental disorder that includes depression. Depression
is more common in people whose blood relatives also have this condition. Researchers are trying
to find genes that may be involved in causing depression. These are some risk factors that
could trigger developing depression. So, depression often begins in the teens, 20s, or 30s, but it
can happen at any age. More women than men are diagnosed with depression, but this may be due
in part because women are more likely to seek treatment than men for depression.
Oh, I see. So, they're more likely to be recorded as far as the statistic.
Yes. So, it's saying that it's probably equal for the possibility of developing it,
but men won't, you won't know as much because they won't seek treatment.
Yeah. Factors that seem to increase the risk of developing or triggering depression include
certain personality traits such as loss of esteem and being too dependent, self-critical,
or pessimistic. Traumatic or stressful events such as physical or sexual abuse, the death or
loss of a loved one, a difficult relationship, or financial problems, blood relatives with a
history of depression, bipolar disorder, alcoholism, or suicide. So, we're both going to get depression.
I mean, so literally every American. Literally.
I'm sorry. I feel like everyone gets depression. I mean, it's one of those things
that's not far-fetched. Like when we talked about OCD, I think the reason that people use it or
maybe throw it around, you know, in either a joking manner or whatever is because it is so
prevalent that everyone goes through bouts of depression. Everyone can relate to that.
Everyone can relate to that feeling. It's easy to say. Yeah. So, moving on with the risk factors,
being lesbian, gay, bisexual, or transgender, or having variations in the development of genital
organs that aren't clearly male or female, which is commonly referred to as intersex,
in an unsupportive situation. So, people in the LGBTQ plus community are very, very vulnerable
to developing depression, especially if people in their life don't understand or they don't want
to be supportive. History of other mental health disorders such as anxiety disorder,
eating disorders, or post-traumatic stress disorder, abuse of alcohol or recreational drugs,
serious or chronic illness, including cancer, stroke, chronic pain, or heart disease,
and certain medications actually. Some high blood pressure medications or sleeping pills can
put you at risk for developing depression. Now, there are some complications that come with
depression, of course. I would say comorbidity probably is a good word to use. So, depression,
of course, is a very serious disorder that can take a terrible toll on you and your family.
It often gets worse if it isn't treated, resulting in emotional, behavioral, and health problems that
affect every area of your life. So, just some examples of complications associated with depression,
excessive weight or obesity, which can lead to heart disease and diabetes, pain or physical
illness, alcohol or drug misuse, anxiety, panic disorder, or social phobia, family conflicts,
relationship difficulties, and worker school problems, social isolation, suicidal feelings,
suicide attempts, or suicide, self-mutilation, such as cutting and premature death from medical
conditions. So, that is the overview of depression. I know it's kind of hard to talk about, but it
is very important to note because if somebody, you know, reaches out to you and they're dealing with
symptoms of depression or anything like that, it's very beneficial to have this information in order
to kind of understand where they're coming from and realize what's happening. And so,
I would like to now kind of segue into talking about melancholic depression, the form of a
major depressive disorder, which presents with melancholic features. So, although melancholic
depression used to be seen as a distinct disorder, the APA no longer recognizes it as a separate
mental illness. Instead, melancholia is now seen as a specifier for MDD, which is major
depressive disorder. That is, it's a subtype of major depressive disorder. Now, MDD is a significant
mental health condition characterized by persistent and intense feelings of sadness and hopelessness.
The disorder can affect many areas of life, like I said earlier, work-school relationships.
It also may impact mood and behavior as well as various physical functions, sleep and eating.
People with this disorder often lose interest in activities they've enjoyed, they once enjoyed,
and have trouble getting through the day. Occasionally, they may also feel as if life isn't worth living.
Now, the severity of these symptoms vary greatly from person to person.
Some people experience traditional symptoms, while others develop additional syndrome such as
melancholia and catatonia. Most symptoms can be managed with treatment, which may consist of
medication and or talk therapy. Now, people with melancholic depression may experience symptoms of
major depressive disorder. Those are the ones I said earlier. Persistent feelings of extreme
sadness, loss of interest, lack of energy, feeling anxious, eating too much or too little, sleeping
too much or too little, experiencing changes in body movement. For example, jiggling your leg when
you didn't before, like I'm doing right this second. That's terrible. Difficulty concentrating,
making decisions that are remembering things, etc. They may also experience melancholic features
of MDD, which include loss of pleasure in all or most daily activities, lack of reactivity to
positive news and events, deep feelings of despair and worthlessness, sleep disruptions,
significant weight loss, persistent feeling of excessive or inappropriate guilt,
and symptoms of MDD that are worse in the morning, which I thought was interesting.
Maybe because they always say take a pregnancy test early in the morning because that's when
your hormones are at the highest. I'm wondering if that's just like your chemical levels or like
your balance at that point. Well, because your body is at most at rest.
Now, melancholic features are more likely to occur in people who frequently experience severe
symptoms of MDD. They are also seen more often in those who have MDD with psychotic features.
So, when someone does show signs of depression and melancholia, the diagnosis is major depressive
disorder with melancholic features. In order to make this diagnosis, a doctor will usually ask
some of the following questions. Do you have difficulty getting out of bed and getting
started in the morning? You can answer. Yeah, but it's usually because I stay up really late.
Are your symptoms generally worse in the morning or in the evening?
In the morning. How do you sleep? If I sleep? Yeah, I don't. I usually like, I don't know,
it depends. It depends on my day. I wouldn't say that's consistent enough to be able to give you
a direct answer. Has there been a change in your sleep patterns? Yes. What does a typical day
look like for you? You don't have to answer that. Has your daily routine- It's a long walk on a beach.
Has your daily routine changed recently? Yeah, but life. Yeah. And do you enjoy the same things
you once did is another question that they would ask? I mean, I feel like it's constantly evolving.
So I have very vague answers for any doctor that would ask me those questions.
Can you use it in a sentence? So MDD is often treated with newer antidepressants such as
selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors or SSRIs. These include well-known medications such as,
I'm going to butcher these names, fluxitine, which is prozac, cetylopram, cilexia, or peroxitine,
which is pexil. However, many people who have MDD with melancholic features may respond better to
older antidepressants such as the trichlylic antidepressants or monoamine oxidized inhibitors.
Ooh, I killed that. Nice. As well as serotonin non-reuf friend reuptake inhibitors such as
vellinfectine or afexor is the brand. So these medications help and inhibit the breakdown of
serotonin in the brain, resulting in higher amount of those quote feel-good chemicals.
I'm pretty sure that's what acid does. Sometimes certain atypical antipsychotics such as
abilify may be used to augment the effects of antidepressants. So there's a lot of different
ways to treat this. So this is one of those disorders where if you're feeling signs and
symptoms of this, the best option is to speak with somebody about it in order to take steps,
because this is not something that goes away on its own. And I think a lot of people also,
you know, like I just gave you a bunch of really vague answers, right? Now, if I don't discuss
my sleep patterns or I don't discuss my daily activities with someone, how am I supposed
to know that they're abnormal? Exactly. And I feel like I really do do that. Like I feel like,
oh, it's just my depression or whatever, you know, and which I know it probably is,
but because sometimes tears just seep out of my eyeballs. But I feel like I justify it to myself
sometimes that I think that it's normal until I realized it's not normal. But how many others,
like warning signs that I miss before it became abnormal to me? Exactly. So yeah.
Now, in addition to medication, talk therapy is commonly used to treat people who have MDD with
melancholic features. A combination of these two treatment methods is usually more effective than
either approach on its own. And of course, talk therapy involves meeting with a therapist on a
regular basis to discuss, you know, certain things. I looked up some celebrities that have depression.
All of them. Yeah. So with major depressive disorder and things like that, it's not very
prevalent among killers, especially as before presenting diagnosis or, you know, disorder.
It's kind of overshadowed by other disorders, you know, the psychotest personality disorders,
things like that. But I do have some celebrities like I had last time. I have a lot. So this is
probably my favorite part about doing this mental breakdown is talking about celebs.
Yeah. Because it literally, and I say this every time, it puts in perspective, you know,
people are struggling with these things and you just never know. Now, my first on my list,
Dewayne The Rock Johnson. Oh, Maui. Yes. He was opened up about depression recently and said,
quote, struggle and pain is real. He actually saved his mother from a suicide attempt when he was 15.
Oh my gosh. So that's, you can talk about hereditary stuff right there, right?
And so he's also noted as saying, quote, depression never discriminates, took me a long time to
realize it. But the key is to not be afraid to open up, especially us dudes have a tendency to
keep it in. You're not alone. Okay. That's nice. I know. I love that. So my second one is Katy Perry.
She shared her struggles with depression in an emotional session on The Therapist. She said
that she opened up because she wants her fans to see her true self. And she's quoted as saying,
if people can see that I'm just like them, they can dream just as big. Right? Isn't that cool?
I want her onkshoes. Have you seen those? No. Sandals? Oh my gosh. I need a pair. They're so
cute. John Hamm. He said he's been open about his bouts with depression and says it was particularly
rough after his father died when he was in college. He was quoted as saying, we live in a world where
to admit anything negative about yourself is seen as a weakness when it's actually a strength. It's
not a weak move to say I need help. Yeah. Lady Gaga. She said she's dealt with both anxiety and
depression. I know that I mentioned her on the other mental breakdown. And she said that, quote,
if we share our stories and stick together, we're stronger. Michael Phelps is on here. Okay. Yeah.
So he said that he sat alone in his bedroom for three to five days, quote, not wanting to be alive.
And he knew that he needed help after he sought treatment and started talking about his feelings.
He said, quote, life became easy. And now he understands that, quote, it's okay not to be okay.
I have goosebumps. I've had them this whole time. Kristen Bell is also on here. I mentioned her in
the last mental breakdown. She says, quote, there's nothing weak about struggling with mental illness.
She went public to try to shed more light on the disorder and ease the stigma around it. Bruce
Springsteen is on here as well. I know. Jersey boy. He said he had bouts of depression in his 60s
that lasted for a long time. And he was quoted as saying, it's like this thing that engulfs you.
I got to where I didn't want to get out of bed. He said it didn't affect his work and his wife's
strength and love were key. She'd say, quote, you're going to be okay, maybe not today or tomorrow,
but it's going to be all right. And he also got help for his condition from therapy and medication.
Yeah. Gwyneth Paltrow, she shined a light on postpartum depression when she opened up about
her five month battle after the birth of her second child, Moses. She said, quote, I felt like a
zombie. I couldn't access my heart. I couldn't access my emotions. I couldn't connect. She said
that she also dealt with clinical depression too after her father died in 2002. Oh, wow.
That's my Margot Tannenbaum. JK Rowling. So of course, the woman behind Harry Potter,
she said her dark moods even inspired her a series, soul sucking creatures known as dementors.
Quote, it's so difficult to describe depression to someone who's never been there because it's
not sadness, but it's that cold absence of feeling, the really hollowed out feeling.
Yeah. Cheryl Crow. She battled depression even before she faced down breast cancer and a benign
brain tumor. Wow. I didn't know that she had that. She said, quote, I have a strong sense of melancholy.
I played piano at an early age out of a need to feel something is what she said. Wow. That's
incredible. Right. Terry Bradshaw, the NFL Hall of Famer. He said that he believes he had depression
for years, but he wasn't diagnosed and treated until the late 90s. He now shares his story hoping
to reduce the stigma surrounding mental illness and is quoted as saying, I thought maybe I could
help people with awareness, help men get the strength and courage. Yeah. I think that's really big.
Like you said, more women seek help, I think, because I guess it's more vulnerable about their
emotions. Yeah. I feel like maybe it's because women are allowed socially express their emotions.
So for a man, it's like, no, like they think that they can fix it. Yeah. Of course.
Buzz Aldrin. It says even walking on the moon couldn't stop Buzz Aldrin from feeling low.
His sudden fame after the 1969 moon landing led to his divorce plus problems with alcohol and
depression. He said that unhappiness runs in his family. His mother and maternal grandfather
suffered from the disease to the point of both sadly having committed suicide.
He sought treatment and became chairman of the National Mental Health Association.
Wow. Good for him. That's amazing. He's old. He is alive and kicking at 91 years old. Wow.
His birthday is actually in January. He's January 28th. He's an Aquarius. I know he's so
close to me though on the 10th. Yeah. Now, Wayne Brady, who I love. I love Wayne Brady.
Oh my God. He described his experience in 2014 and quote, you don't want to move.
You can't move in the darkness. He opened up in an effort to stop the double standard in
Hollywood. He said, or it seems more acceptable to admit to a drug problem than clinical depression.
Oh man. That is so intuitive. That is so true. Right. Jim Carrey. I love Jim Carrey. I love him too.
He opens up about taking antidepressants and leads a very clean spiritual life. He has quoted
us saying, I rarely drink coffee. I'm very serious about no alcohol, no drugs. Life is too beautiful.
I want to cry. Beautiful. And Robin Williams, of course, we all know it was a very big shock
in 2014 when he ultimately committed suicide. He had actually been diagnosed with Parkinson's and
had a history with depression, substance and alcohol abuse. And he may have actually had
a form of dementia, it says. Really? So in 2006, he described his highs and lows,
and as quoted as saying, do I perform sometimes in a manic style? Yes. Am I manic all the time?
No. Do I get sad? Oh yeah. Does it hit me hard? Oh yeah. And that really hurts my heart. Oh,
I know. I love you, Robin. I know. Such a joy taken from the world. Yeah. And last but not least,
Abraham Lincoln. Mrs. Lincoln. Yes. The Schizophrenia. Oh, she was diagnosed with Schizophrenia.
So, and he had a hell of a time as a clinical depression. Wow. So he was quoted as saying,
if what I feel were equally distributed to the whole human family, there would not be one
cheerful face on the earth. Oh my God, chills. He wrote a law partner in 1841 and said, quote,
whether I shall ever be better, I cannot tell. He relied heavily on friends, family and trusted,
an entrusted doctor to see him through his darkest times. Other historical figures who reportedly
wrestle with depression include Ernest Hemingway, Winston Churchill, psychoanalyst Sigmund Freud,
and General William T. Sherman. Freud. But that quote, if what I feel were equally distributed
to the whole human family, there would not be one cheerful face on earth. Isn't that heavy?
That's haunting. That is so haunting. The thought. What a horrible feeling. That has to be such a
dark feeling, like just a helpless feeling. I cannot even, like I can't even put myself there.
I would not wish that on my worst enemy. Seriously, that is a horrible feeling. And the thing is,
is that that's where depression becomes scary. Because you can be depressed, you can have clinical
depression, have suicidal thoughts and tendencies. When you get that, when you reach that feeling
of hopelessness, that's, that's scary. Yeah. That being said, I would like to mention suicide
prevention to a little note. If you find yourself in a position where you think somebody is at
immediate risk of self-harm or hurting other people, you should immediately call 911 or your
local emergency number. You should stay with that person until help arrives. Remove any guns,
knives, medication, or any other things that may cause harm. Listen, but don't judge, argue,
threaten, or yell. And if you think someone is considering suicide, get help from a crisis
or suicide prevention hotline. So the national suicide prevention lifeline is 800-273-8255.
And you can call that number at any time of the day, 247. So of course to our LGBTQIA2S plus
community, we also have the Trevor Project. It is 247 that you can call this number.
The number is 866-488-7386. It's very unfortunate the number of people that
are experiencing this. I mean, currently, like daily, you know, and, and, you know,
nothing is ever worth taking your life over. It's just not. Yeah. And it might feel like that is the
only option, but it's not. It's a bad day. It's not a bad life. I always like to say that. Yeah.
I think even with these, these phone numbers, they'll actually place you with a counselor as well.
Okay. Cool. And, and if you're like me and you have anxiety about being on the phone with someone
that wears me out, I know Trevor Project and if I'm not entirely mistaken, I think National
Suicide Hotline also has chat options so you can text or, yeah, or just message online. So, yeah.
If you find yourself in a position where you can't afford healthcare or, you know, mental
healthcare, if you are enrolled in college, I'm pretty sure most colleges, at least in Texas,
I'm not sure about the U.S., they offer free student counseling. Yeah. I actually looked that up for
Alamo Colleges this week for myself. Yeah. They offer free services. Yeah. And they're,
they generally have a male and a female counselor, whoever you feel comfortable with. Of course.
Yeah. And they also have little bios of them as well. So you can see where they've worked,
what they do, what they enjoy, things like that. Yeah. Kind of get to know them before you ever
reach out. Yeah. And then if you wanted to, and then of course email them. There's a whole team
of people for just San Antonio College. So I'm sure there's a huge team of people for every
college campus. Yeah. Absolutely. There's like these sub, there's a list of like six or seven
people after the two main counselors that they can also, just with, if you need help with just
talking to someone or fellowship of some kind, they also have groups available. Yeah.
Absolutely. Even in high school, high school counselors, they're licensed for that stuff,
you know. Right. They use your resources. Even at work, a lot of places, if you go to HR and you
express something to them, they might be able to help you with something. Yeah. The biggest thing
for me is that do not ever, ever feel like you are going to be burdening somebody by talking about
that. Right. The first step is to talk about it and to confront it head on, you know. So especially
me, if any of my close friends are listening, you never ever going to bother me with that stuff.
You can't. I also came across a really awesome YouTube channel and it was a little silly,
but it's called The School of Life. Okay. And there are, I mean, two or three episodes or shows and
it's all different types of topics about relationships and intimate ones and friendships
and family relationships and just introspective stuff. I watched two and I cried watching both,
but because it hit so hard and like it really gave me like a lot of insight into the way that I might
be feeling and how I'm feeling and it was really cool. It's called The School of Life. Okay. And
we'll put that on your show notes too. Yeah. It's really cool stuff and there's all different types
of topics on there. If you just want to listen to someone else talk for a second, it was actually
really, really rewarding. Well, I know that this was kind of a harder mental breakdown to talk about
and to listen to. So I appreciate everybody kind of sticking through and again, you are never alone.
You have so many reasons to live and use so many resources that you can reach out to. So
just please remember that we love all of you. We love you guys. All right. Anything else you got?
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