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You gotta go.

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Hello.

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Oh, like, Clarice?

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Hello.

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I am Koelle.

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And I'm Kenna.

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Welcome back to diagnosing a killer.

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We are so close to each other right now.

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It's not even funny at all.

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It's weird.

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I should have brought some gum.

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I know.

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Jude yesterday at work seriously was so funny.

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We were in pre-shift.

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And I leaned over and whispered something to Clay.

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I was like, something.

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He goes, whoa, your breast smells like onions.

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I was like, sorry.

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I was like, does anybody have a mint?

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It's like, I felt so new.

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Don't go through.

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So we have some news, obviously Ka'well is back this week.

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And she is going to be here for good.

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So we have a little bit of change in our co-hostery.

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Dana is the love of my life.

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She just has a really busy schedule.

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And I appreciate that.

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I respect that.

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She's a badass bitch woman.

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And she's going to be on for some episodes when she wants to.

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And she has a good case and stuff like that.

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But just plan on hearing a lot more from Ka'well.

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And of course, moi.

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In my throat, just gurgled when I said that.

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So if you heard that in the microphone.

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Moi.

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Love you, Dana.

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Love you, Dana.

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So a couple of exciting things that has happened recently.

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I've gotten a lot of good feedback about our podcast.

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Woo.

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Me too.

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There was a couple of my friends at the bar, the regulars.

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Just two guys hanging in a hot tub.

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Five feet apart.

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Because I'm not going to stay in the rest.

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Michael and Jesse both said, last night I was at the bar.

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And they both said, I listened to a couple episodes,

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like one or two or whatever.

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Like it was so good.

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Michael was saying, he really loved the jokes that we would make.

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And the banter.

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And he said that the whole lack of word choice when I said turn to bligh eye with Andre Thomas.

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I don't know if you've heard that one yet.

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But he's blind and has never had eyeballs.

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And I said that.

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And he was like, that's funny.

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To me, like gaj out his own eyes.

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It's really terrible.

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It was a poor choice of words.

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It was.

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But he was like, oh my gosh, like that cracked me up.

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Because obviously, like you were trying to be nice and you know, came across like,

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and he goes, and then the bongos thing, like at one point my mic, you know, I'm like, yeah.

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So that was funny.

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And then Jesse.

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Just playing the bongos.

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Yes.

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Jesse actually gave us a really good compliment.

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He said that he really enjoyed the accuracy of things, the professionalism of it all.

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So I really appreciate that.

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So thank you guys both so much for that awesome feedback because that makes me feel good.

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Like people that I'm not like poking, hey, listen to the podcast, listen to the podcast.

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And then they just take it upon themselves to do it.

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Hell yeah.

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You know.

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One of my good friends, Tawny, she was like, I love the flow of things.

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It just sounds so cool.

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And she said that she binged it.

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She works from home.

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So she was binging it.

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And so she's excited to take her more.

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Sorry.

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Shout out to Brianna as well because Brianna is a good old, old friend of mine.

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We have our own separate lives.

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We haven't really been in contact every once in a while, the last couple of years.

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But she reached out to me on Facebook and was like, dude, I saw that you posted about a podcast.

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I was like, no way.

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And then I listened to it.

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She was like, I binged on the way home and I'm really upset that I have to wait for another episode.

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That makes me feel so good.

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So thank you guys all for the feedback and actually listening to us.

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I was like, no one's going to listen to this except for mom and dad.

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Not even.

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I don't think dad listens.

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Mom hasn't listened to the latest episode here.

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I was like, have you listened to it?

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She's like, I was napping.

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I was napping.

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It's much more exciting to listen to something when it's like, I mean, I've listened to all of our episodes

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after we record them and I'm literally here.

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But I'm like, it's interesting to me because I'm like, I want to make sure I sound okay.

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Me?

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Even though I'm always judging.

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We're going to keep trying to pump out content regularly for you guys because I know there's like a little bit.

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It's not as consistent as we want it to be.

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So we're definitely going to try to start pre-recording a lot more so that we already have stuff set up for you guys.

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And I actually saw on the on the RSS feed, like where I put all the podcast information and stuff,

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you could actually upload podcasts and preset them to get pushed out at a certain date.

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So I literally don't even have to go on that date if I want to.

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I can be like, oh, post this on this.

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So that's cool.

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Oh, also we're on Spotify now.

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Oh, yeah.

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So yeah.

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So if you don't have, I've heard of a lot of people say, well, what if I don't have Apple?

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You know, I'm on Apple Podcasts and I don't want to go to that website every time.

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You can't really manipulate the fast forward or rewind on the RSS.com.

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I don't think I mean you can, but it's not as easy as Spotify makes it.

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So we are on Spotify, of course, diagnosing a killer.

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I also set up the email.

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Yay.

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Finally.

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So the only people that have emailed me are Buzzsprout.

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So please email us because I'd like to hear from someone other than a robot.

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Send Bob's and Vegean.

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That's what you're going to get.

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People asking if you want to join eHarmony.

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No, thanks.

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Like super excited about all of that stuff happening.

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We're again, we're going to be trying to post a lot more content, you know, a lot more frequently.

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So thank you guys for bearing with us.

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We're through our kind of testing stage for lack of a better phrase.

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So also my drink of choice today, if anybody was curious, is Yerba Mate.

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Oh, it's like an herbal caffeinated tea, which really doesn't exist.

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But it's trying to stay away from coffee and black tea.

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Sponsors.

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How would you say that?

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Goyaki?

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Goyaki.

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Goyaki.

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I don't know.

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Organic herbal mate.

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The rebel berry is the best.

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Let's try that.

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I personally have indulged in coffee already today.

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I woke up super early and to me super early is like 9 a.m.

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And I went to meet Onii at the gym.

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Shout out Onii.

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She kicked my ass and I don't think I'm going to be able to walk tomorrow.

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Uh oh.

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So glad we're doing this now.

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Because I'm going to be bedridden tomorrow.

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Oh wait, I work at double so I'm not.

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Oh wait.

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Anyways, that's enough small talk.

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People are going to be like turning this off because you're not getting to the gates.

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Like what are you doing?

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I'm so bored right now.

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Literally, I don't care about your freaking lives.

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All right.

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So I have a doozy of a case.

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It's another Texas case.

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So this took place in McAllen, Texas, in the valley.

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Oh.

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One of our listeners actually suggested that we do this case because they personally knew the

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killer involved in this case and actually had multiple conversations with them at one

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point in their lives.

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The case that I'm going to talk about today is that of Monica Melissa Patterson.

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She went by Melissa Patterson so I'm going to refer to her as Melissa throughout this.

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So I'm going to first kind of set the scene, kind of bring it forward, and then I'm going to bring

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you back.

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So at 9 40 a.m. on January 28th of 2015 in New Braunfels, Texas,

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Mark Nell is getting ready for work when he gets a phone call from McAllen, Texas,

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where his 96 year old father lives.

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So he gets a phone call from that, you know, side of, you can obviously tell by the area.

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By the area code.

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It was actually his father's neighbor across the street informing him that there was a fire truck

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and an ambulance at his dad's house.

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So he immediately, I know, right, scary, he immediately gets in the car and begins his,

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you know, four hour trip because he's in New Braunfels.

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It's going to take about four hours to get there.

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Yeah, I just want to say that everybody should be kind to their neighbors, especially in 2015.

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I probably only ever knew like maybe one of my neighbors at that time.

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Mm hmm.

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But yeah, they'll always have your back.

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No, same, actually, I was living in New Braunfels.

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Bring cookies every Christmas.

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Straight up because they're going to be the ones that are looking out for your shit.

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Oh, absolutely.

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And so he begins his four hour trip south to McAllen.

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He keeps the neighbor on the phone while he's driving down there for the whole time to give

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him updates.

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Well, then he realizes, oh, wait, my dad has a, you know, caretaker, full time caretaker,

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by the name of Melissa Patterson.

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So he texts her to get an update while she immediately calls him and says that as far as

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she knows, his full time housekeeper that she had actually hired for him, her name is Celestina

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Marscorro, had called 911 and saying that Marty had a heart attack and that the paramedics had

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come by to try to revive him.

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So Melissa's on her way.

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So she wasn't there?

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No, no, no, she's on her way at this point.

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And the housekeeper has informed her that this is happening.

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Now, Melissa Patterson finally arrives to the scene within minutes.

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And it was while Mark was on the way to McAllen that unfortunately, Melissa called him back

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and gave him the news and I quote, your father just died.

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Very cold.

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Kind of like, oh, like.

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By the way.

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I'm so sorry.

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Your father just died.

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Yeah, like you don't want to sprinkle any, you know, sincerity in there.

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So that is the scene that I want to paint.

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Now I'm going to go back and tell you what kind of a person Marty Nell was.

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This is the father that died.

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And Marty and Mark.

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96, that's a long life.

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Marty and Mark obviously very two similar names.

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Just to be clear, Marty is the man that passed away and Mark is his son.

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So Marty Nell was actually raised by a West Virginia coal miner during the Depression.

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Wow.

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And he actually began working in the coal mine himself when he got into high school.

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Did he get the black lung?

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I don't know.

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Obviously not.

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He was 96.

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Yeah, right.

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96, man.

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By all accounts, this guy was just tough as nails.

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Like just one of those, you know, hard work in grandpa's.

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I guarantee you his hands were like rock hard, you know, callots.

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So during this time that he was working at the coal mine and he was in high school,

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like I said, he met a fellow classmate, Penny Fletcher,

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and immediately knew that they were meant to be together.

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I know.

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High school sweetheart's two a T.

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I love that name Penny.

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Penny, isn't that so cute?

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We love a Penny.

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Everyone around them, of course, knew they were soulmates.

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It was just like, I mean, by all accounts, everyone was like, they're like,

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you can tell they were together forever.

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Now in the summer of 1941, the couple got married.

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And then of course, a few months later is when the United States entered World War II.

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So Marty immediately enlisted in the army.

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He took it upon himself to immediately enlist himself.

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He actually had pilot skills.

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So he was almost instantly promoted because of course they need people.

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He was almost instantly promoted to sergeant and he was all of a sudden training paratroopers.

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Damn.

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Right.

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What a badass.

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Like seriously, it's just one of those like badass World War II vets, you know, like,

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you could talk to him for hours and just let's go kick some ass.

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Right.

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At this time, Penny was actually working as well as an operator at an up and coming telecommunications

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company.

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She made a very wise choice and decided to take stock instead of pay for this company.

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So they're going to pay her in stock for the company.

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Well, they actually tried to promote her multiple times,

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but she declined because it would have required her to move and she didn't want to do that,

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especially with Marty's situation in the army.

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Yeah.

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So finally, a couple years later, after the war ended, the company finally convinced Penny to

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take the chief operator position at this branch in McAllen.

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So that's when they moved to McAllen, Texas.

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Wow.

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They both moved here.

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Marty retired from the army and he worked as a mail carrier,

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still giving back to the community.

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God, this guy.

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Just a sweet old man.

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At this point, well, he wasn't even old at this point.

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He was, you know, a sweet young man.

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I'll say.

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So they had the perfect marriage by all accounts, but they wanted something more, of course.

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Unfortunately, they were unable to conceive a child on their own, so they decided to adopt.

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And then in 1953, they adopted Mark Mel.

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I know, right?

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Marty and Mark.

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Oh, my God.

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So cute.

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I was going to say, I was like, oh my God, it's like Carl and Ellie.

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Oh my God.

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I'm going to cry on the podcast.

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So by Mark's accounts, oh my God, this is like, you're really going to get me.

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His parents were just like the best.

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He said that they sang and danced and laughed a lot while he was growing up.

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I know.

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It's like breaking my heart.

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And he was the only child?

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Yes, he was the only child.

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Well, it's really expensive to adopt.

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Oh, of course, especially in the, you know, fifties, you know.

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And so yeah, they just seemed like the sweetest little couple, like the best parents,

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like always had joy.

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The American dream.

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Yeah, joy and laughter in the house and all that.

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Now, by 1980, Mark, of course, was grown up and he had his own, he started his own family.

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This is when the couple began to think about retirement.

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Do you remember that company that Penny worked for?

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I told you, it was an up and coming telecommunications company.

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Southwestern Bell.

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AT&T.

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AT&T.

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Well, Penny's choice to take stock instead of pay was, of course, a wise one,

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and they instantly became millionaires because of this.

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Fuck yeah, Penny.

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I have stock in like in stuff, but I'm like, I never gonna see a time.

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I get so sad when I check on my doge coins.

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I'm like, ew, 23 cents of stock.

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Literally.

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Like, ugh, terrible.

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Even though they had all this, they had come into all this money,

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they really wanted to make it a point to live modestly.

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They really wanted to spend time with their grandkids and just continue to stay as active as

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possible.

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Yeah, invest the money into their life.

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Of course.

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And frivolous things.

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Of course.

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And they're, of course, getting older at this point, and so they want to make sure that

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they're seizing the moment.

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Perpe Diem.

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Marty would actually get up at 4 a.m. every day just to exercise,

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just to take advantage of the day.

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This guy is like a true American hero.

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Literally.

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Marty for fucking president, 20-20.

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By 2014, this is the year 2014 now, the couple approached their 90s.

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Of course, their age has started to catch up with them.

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Unfortunately, Penny fell one day and fractured her pelvis.

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I'm sorry, but at a certain age, there's really no coming back from that.

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It's terrifying what happens.

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But yeah, so she fell and fractured her pelvis.

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Fractured her pelvis.

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And she was in the hospital for quite some time, of course.

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This is obviously very stressful on Marty.

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I want to be like, Maddie.

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Maddie.

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Stressful on Maddie.

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But by September 2014, Penny was cleared to return home.

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So she was doing really good.

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Marty was of course still worried and he was getting to the point where he thought

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that he wasn't going to be able to care for her on his own.

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Because their age, of course.

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This is when their nurse suggested that she go to a place called the Comfort House.

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Okay.

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Now, the Comfort House is where the couple would meet the monster who ruined their lives,

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Melissa Patterson.

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She ran the Comfort House.

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She was the head owner or whatever.

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Well, I don't know if it was the owners, the non-profits.

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It's kind of like, she was on the board.

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But she was like the head board member, I guess.

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She was the HBIC.

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Yeah.

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Yes.

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Well, H-C-I-C.

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H-C-I-C.

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Get it?

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You got her.

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Now, we're going to talk about Melissa Patterson for a little bit.

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Okay.

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What?

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Just look over and be like, can't breathe.

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You got her.

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Sorry.

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Are you listening, Melissa?

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I just dissed you.

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You got some ice for that burn?

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Seriously.

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All right.

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Back to the story.

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Now, we're going to talk about Melissa Patterson for a little bit, as much as I don't want to.

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But it's important to the case.

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I couldn't find an actual birth date for her.

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All I could find was that she was born in either 1968 or 1969.

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She probably lied about her age a few times.

400
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Well, no.

401
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They were telling me, or not telling me about her age.

402
00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:20,480
Well, no, they were telling me, or not telling me.

403
00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:23,200
And the research that I did, they said how old she was then.

404
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So I kind of did the math.

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Yeah.

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And yeah.

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So 1968 or 1969.

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So she was born to Hector or Tito.

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We're going to call him Tito.

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That was what his nickname was.

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And Bertha Palacios in McAllen, Texas, where she was born.

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She was the youngest of three with an older sister, Marciela Garcia,

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and older brother, Jamie J. Palacios.

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Her mother, Bertha, is a former far San Juan Alamo

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Independent School District, or the PSJAISD Administrator.

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It's a mouthful.

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And Tito is the former Haldongo County Commissioner

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and former San Juan Mayor.

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Oh, wow.

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So they're both very politically involved in the county.

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Very well known around town.

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I really couldn't find a lot on her early life,

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or even her career before she applied to this comfort house place.

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I did read that she was a speech pathologist formally,

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but I didn't literally had anything about her childhood.

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00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:14,080
I couldn't find any of that, which honestly,

427
00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:14,960
it doesn't really fucking matter.

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00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:18,640
So she applied to be on the board of directors at this place

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that we'd know as the comfort house.

430
00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:22,160
It was a hospice, or it still is.

431
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It's a hospice care facility that's been around since 89,

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and they specialize in caring for terminally ill patients

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that have four months or less to live, unfortunately.

434
00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:31,040
Oh, man.

435
00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:31,360
I know.

436
00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:32,240
I could not work at this.

437
00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:33,760
So it's strictly like hospice care?

438
00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:34,000
Yeah.

439
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I could not work at a place like that.

440
00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:36,160
Me neither.

441
00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:38,800
She was hired into this company by one Paul Garcia,

442
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who was the treasurer of the board,

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and who would actually later testify against her in trial.

444
00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:43,760
Oh.

445
00:16:43,760 --> 00:16:44,160
Yeah.

446
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And I bet he feels like an idiot for hiring her.

447
00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:47,920
But how do you know that?

448
00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:49,440
You don't know something like that.

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Especially if somebody doesn't have a previous record,

450
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and like you said, it's hard to find anything about her.

451
00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:53,840
Yeah.

452
00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:55,440
So she probably didn't have a previous record.

453
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Otherwise, Paul would probably be taken into account.

454
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Well, it was wiped clean by her political polls and her family.

455
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That's true.

456
00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:02,000
Or it could have been.

457
00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:03,520
She used to get in the way with shit,

458
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and we'll find out later that this is not

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going to be the first time that she's introduced

460
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to criminal activity and involved in it.

461
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So.

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Da-da-da.

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Shuck it.

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00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:15,760
Now, Marty would actually visit the Comfort House

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several times a week, of course, to see his wife.

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And he developed a friendship with a bunch of other staff

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members, Melissa being the most prominent of those friendships.

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She would give him food and ear to talk to while he visited.

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Just became a friend to him pretty much.

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By October, Penny actually seemed to be improving.

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She was putting on weight, and she was recovering quite well.

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So the couple's anniversary was actually on October 23rd,

473
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and the family was planning on all going down there

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to celebrate with them.

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They were celebrating their like 73rd anniversary,

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like something really outrageous.

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Like, so cool.

478
00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:49,600
However, on the day of the anniversary party,

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Penny took a sudden turn for the worse.

480
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This is when Melissa contacted the family directly

481
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and told them that she didn't think that Penny was going to last.

482
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The day of their anniversary?

483
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The day of their anniversary party.

484
00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:02,320
Oh.

485
00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:03,840
The day that that party was scheduled.

486
00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:04,000
Yeah.

487
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Also, she didn't think she was going to last

488
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really sentimental and empathetic choice of words there.

489
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I don't think that she's going to last.

490
00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:11,840
Yeah.

491
00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:15,040
I'm sorry, but like day old food doesn't last.

492
00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:15,680
Yeah.

493
00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:17,840
This is what you say about a person.

494
00:18:17,840 --> 00:18:18,480
Yeah.

495
00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:19,040
Right.

496
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The family was led to the room.

497
00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:23,280
So the family had come down, of course, to McCallan for, you know,

498
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they were led to the for whatever.

499
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For, you know, whatever.

500
00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:29,040
You know, whatever they're together.

501
00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:32,960
After we just condemned her for being so coarse.

502
00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:34,480
Damn it.

503
00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:37,680
The family was led to the room where Penny was.

504
00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:39,600
Apparently, she was having a lot of trouble breathing,

505
00:18:39,600 --> 00:18:41,360
and it was a really hard scene.

506
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She was horrible.

507
00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:45,840
The son said that she was like almost like croaking.

508
00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:47,360
Like she was really like shallow breath,

509
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like couldn't really catch her breath.

510
00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:49,760
I know it was really, really hard.

511
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And then she unfortunately passed away around 9 p.m.

512
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So this was like, whoa, like she was doing really good.

513
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Homegirl was kicking it.

514
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Gaining weight and then all of the sudden it seems.

515
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Now everybody chalked this up to old age.

516
00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:06,480
I mean, she was in her 90s, right?

517
00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:06,800
Yeah.

518
00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:10,000
Of course, Marty was beyond devastated.

519
00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:14,080
I could not even imagine spending literally my entire life

520
00:19:14,080 --> 00:19:15,440
with somebody and then losing them,

521
00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:17,680
no matter how old and how much of a great life we had.

522
00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:21,200
I mean, literally they spent their entire lives together.

523
00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:23,040
Well, because of this, he of course started

524
00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:26,160
to become more introverted and his mental and emotional side

525
00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:29,120
began to dwindle with that, of course.

526
00:19:29,120 --> 00:19:30,880
It honestly reminds me of our,

527
00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:33,920
there's some grandparents on our mom's side

528
00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:35,200
that that happened with, you know,

529
00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:37,360
the wife passed away, unfortunately,

530
00:19:37,360 --> 00:19:39,200
and within three months, so did the husband,

531
00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:40,400
just because of losing that.

532
00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:41,840
Like you're losing half of yourself.

533
00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:42,000
Right.

534
00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:42,480
It's awful.

535
00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:43,040
Mm-hmm.

536
00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:44,480
I, oh, I can't imagine that.

537
00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:47,840
So Marty wasn't a resident of the comfort house,

538
00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:50,560
like I mentioned, but Melissa actually continued

539
00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:52,400
to care for him at his home after this,

540
00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:55,120
because, you know, she wanted to be there for him or whatever.

541
00:19:55,120 --> 00:19:56,880
Isn't that, isn't there like a,

542
00:19:57,920 --> 00:20:00,160
like a conflict of interest with that though?

543
00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:01,040
Like a code of ethics?

544
00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:04,320
Yeah, like I have a friend that has,

545
00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:08,320
that's employed by a company to perform a certain task

546
00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:12,480
or a certain job, but if she were to like outsource

547
00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:15,200
and do at home care or whatever,

548
00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:17,920
that that, she's, she can do that.

549
00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:20,560
Well, the thing is, it's like working for Uber and Lyft.

550
00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:21,840
Yeah, I see what you're saying.

551
00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:25,360
The thing is, is that she wasn't working for him.

552
00:20:25,360 --> 00:20:28,400
She was just taking it upon herself to go and care for him.

553
00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:30,640
She had hired a housekeeper for him

554
00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:32,400
outside of the comfort house.

555
00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:33,360
Oh.

556
00:20:33,360 --> 00:20:33,840
You know what I mean?

557
00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:36,720
She wasn't using the resources of the company to help him.

558
00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:38,640
She was taking it upon herself to go to his house.

559
00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:39,920
But is she getting paid to do it?

560
00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:40,800
No, I don't think so.

561
00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:41,680
I really don't.

562
00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:43,120
Because she was, that's what I'm saying.

563
00:20:43,120 --> 00:20:44,080
No, I don't think she was.

564
00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:47,840
I think she just was trying to, at least,

565
00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:49,680
I mean, I don't know, at this point it could have been genuine,

566
00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:53,760
but she's trying to establish that she cares about this gentleman.

567
00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:57,680
Yeah, she's trying to possibly portray that she has.

568
00:20:57,680 --> 00:21:00,720
Yeah, but she find out later if she doesn't care about him at all,

569
00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:02,160
which is very unfortunate.

570
00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:04,720
Well, you know, that's just not gonna last.

571
00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:06,320
Yeah.

572
00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:08,160
So she was actually even, she told the family

573
00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:11,040
she was even planning on spending Thanksgiving with him that year at his house,

574
00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:12,320
which I was like, oh, that's kind of sweet.

575
00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:14,480
It would be if you were a nice, freaking human.

576
00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:16,160
I don't find that shady.

577
00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:16,800
I'm sorry.

578
00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:21,200
I would find that just as a, if that was my father or something,

579
00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:22,800
I would find that fucking shady.

580
00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:25,120
But, I mean, you want to believe that everyone's good

581
00:21:25,120 --> 00:21:26,800
and you want to believe that everyone's genuine.

582
00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:28,800
And at least you have someone to talk to

583
00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:31,040
and someone to come around and check up on him.

584
00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:33,680
And especially since Mark lived so far.

585
00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:37,440
Exactly. This was on the board of this amazing

586
00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:39,360
non-profit organization.

587
00:21:39,360 --> 00:21:42,800
And she was also pending as nurse.

588
00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:45,440
So, yeah, it makes sense.

589
00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:45,920
Yeah.

590
00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:49,760
This is when Melissa hired that housekeeper that I spoke about earlier.

591
00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:50,400
Okay.

592
00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:51,120
What was her name?

593
00:21:51,120 --> 00:21:53,040
Celestina Marscorro.

594
00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:55,280
She actually hired her to be at Marty's house

595
00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:56,400
while she couldn't be there.

596
00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:59,600
So this guy had pretty much somebody at the house with him at all times.

597
00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:00,160
All the time.

598
00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:00,560
Okay.

599
00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:04,320
Okay. Now, okay, so we're back to January 28th, 2015.

600
00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:05,920
This is the story I told in the beginning

601
00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:08,800
when the son Mark was heading to McCallan to check on his dad.

602
00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:10,880
So when Melissa Patterson arrived to the scene,

603
00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:12,720
again, Mark is still on his way,

604
00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:18,240
she immediately sees the paramedics giving life-saving procedures to Marty.

605
00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:19,680
And she tells them to stop.

606
00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:22,400
She goes, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, stop, stop.

607
00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:26,160
And hands them a piece of paper with a signed DNR.

608
00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:28,080
Oh my God, no.

609
00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:32,160
No. The DNR looked accurate. It looked legit.

610
00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:36,560
So the paramedics had no choice but to stop all life-saving procedures.

611
00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:39,360
And unfortunately, Marty passed away a little bit later.

612
00:22:39,360 --> 00:22:39,760
Oh no.

613
00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:42,720
This is when Melissa called Mark and told him.

614
00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:43,920
Your dad just died.

615
00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:44,320
Kind of like that.

616
00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:45,840
I was imagining she said it like that.

617
00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:46,080
Yeah.

618
00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:50,320
Now, after this happened, police, of course, were at the scene

619
00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:53,920
and they began to try to get any kind of story from the housekeeper

620
00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:55,440
because the housekeeper was the one that called.

621
00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:58,240
She said that it was like any other morning.

622
00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:01,440
She had made Marty breakfast and then she started to do some cleaning.

623
00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:05,040
And then she said that she arrived back to the chicken, the kitchen.

624
00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:06,000
Check on him.

625
00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:08,800
She returned to the chicken coop.

626
00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:11,920
So she said that she had arrived back to the kitchen to check on him

627
00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:13,600
and he was slumped over.

628
00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:15,040
Well, of course, she's freaked out.

629
00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:15,680
Oh my God.

630
00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:19,360
You know, I don't know if she tried to, you know, check on him or whatever.

631
00:23:19,360 --> 00:23:22,000
And she obviously immediately called 911.

632
00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:23,600
So by the time that Mark arrived,

633
00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:28,240
this is four hours later, the coroner had already transported Marty to the Mord.

634
00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:29,520
He literally didn't.

635
00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:32,560
I don't know if that's proceed like standard procedure or whatever.

636
00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:37,360
But when it's when it's, in my opinion, an unassuming like no foul play death,

637
00:23:37,360 --> 00:23:38,880
which was what they thought at the beginning.

638
00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:40,560
Why would you like just you can't?

639
00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:42,400
It's not like you're taking the body out for evidence, you know,

640
00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:44,560
like you couldn't just leave him there for just a little bit longer

641
00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:48,160
for a son to like be able to say or at least like put him in a well,

642
00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:48,960
keep him there.

643
00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:50,800
Melissa was also controlling the scene.

644
00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:51,600
Exactly.

645
00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:55,360
And so she was probably like, get this guy out of here, you know.

646
00:23:55,360 --> 00:24:00,000
By all accounts, it made sense to everybody that Marty had a heart attack due to his age.

647
00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:04,720
And three days later, they did a military graveside service for Marty with the 21 gun salute.

648
00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:08,160
If you've ever been to a military service, it is very emotional.

649
00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:11,840
I've been the one, my dear friend, David passed away a couple of years ago,

650
00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:12,800
and it was very hard.

651
00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:16,240
But it's a really cool thing to witness, unfortunately.

652
00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:19,760
I don't want to say cool, but you know, it's a touching thing to witness.

653
00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:23,600
Although Marty had been laid to rest, the investigation into his death was just beginning.

654
00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:25,760
Because they're like, oh, I mean, I don't know.

655
00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:30,240
Yeah, he's, you know, old and you know, probably had a heart attack, but maybe it was like some

656
00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:30,960
questioning going on.

657
00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:31,600
Yeah.

658
00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:34,960
On the morning of February 24th, 2015, so this is almost a month later.

659
00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:36,000
A month later.

660
00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:40,320
The housekeeper, Celestina, actually came forward with a startling confession.

661
00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:42,560
I know, right?

662
00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:43,920
Your face, you're like, what?

663
00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:44,560
What?

664
00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:49,120
She showed up with the Texas Rangers headquarters in Westlaco and asked to speak with somebody.

665
00:24:49,120 --> 00:24:52,720
She told them that she had witnessed the murder of Marty now.

666
00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:53,440
What?

667
00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:54,240
Yeah.

668
00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:55,360
A month later.

669
00:24:56,160 --> 00:25:03,120
You know, I, okay, I didn't want to accuse her, accuse her at first, but when she called 911 and

670
00:25:03,120 --> 00:25:07,520
said that he was having a heart attack, then she's saying that he was slumped over.

671
00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:08,800
So which is it?

672
00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:12,640
Like, was he grasping in his arm or his chest?

673
00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:14,480
And that's why she thought it was a heart attack?

674
00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:19,280
Well, I think she was saying he's not alive, it was probably a heart attack.

675
00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:20,800
It's what she was like, why would you assume?

676
00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:22,160
It's like, why would you assume?

677
00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:23,840
Like, it would have been an aneurysm.

678
00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:24,960
It could have been a blood clot.

679
00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:26,000
Yeah, or whatever.

680
00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:26,240
Yeah.

681
00:25:27,360 --> 00:25:34,400
So according to Celestina, on that morning, Marty had received a phone call from Melissa.

682
00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:37,040
There was an argument and he was very clearly upset.

683
00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:42,640
Well, then she claims that a short time later, Melissa showed up at the house where the argument

684
00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:43,440
continued.

685
00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:49,680
Melissa actually asked Celestina to step out of the house into the garage while they were talking.

686
00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:51,440
Excuse yourself, go to the garage.

687
00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:52,080
Literally.

688
00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:55,120
That's what made me, oh, that like cringes me out like, fuck you, like I'm not going to

689
00:25:55,120 --> 00:25:57,680
leave, you're being rude to this poor old man.

690
00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:03,680
Well, when Celestina stepped out into the garage, she saw a man by whom she knew by the name of

691
00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:07,440
Mario sitting in Melissa's car parked outside.

692
00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:11,440
He had worked odd jobs at the comfort house and he had like been around.

693
00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:15,920
I don't think that Celestina worked for the comfort house, but he had been around the house,

694
00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:16,640
you know, fixing stuff in the past.

695
00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:19,600
Right, like clearly Melissa had had him come over a few times.

696
00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:20,640
So she recognized him.

697
00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:23,040
Yeah, but she knew him by Mario.

698
00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:26,960
Then after this happened, she noticed him or whatever.

699
00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:32,160
A few minutes later, Melissa came into the garage and motioned for Mario to come into

700
00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:34,560
the house and he entered the residence.

701
00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:38,560
Then, this is still all Celestina's story.

702
00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:40,400
This is her accounts of things.

703
00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:44,800
She tried to enter the house, but Melissa stopped her from going into the house and then

704
00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:46,640
Melissa followed Mario into the house.

705
00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:53,040
As Mario was walking into the house, Celestina relays that she overheard Melissa say, quote,

706
00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:55,200
do what you have to do to Mario.

707
00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:56,400
Oh my God.

708
00:26:56,400 --> 00:27:00,080
Celestina then said that she heard a struggle and then a few minutes later,

709
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,000
Melissa and Mario came back into the garage.

710
00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:08,640
Melissa then instructed Celestina to wait 30 to 45 minutes before calling 911.

711
00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:10,000
Oh my God.

712
00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:12,000
What a calculated bitch.

713
00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:17,040
And they both threatened her life if she didn't comply with what they were telling her to do.

714
00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:17,760
Holy crap.

715
00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:20,320
Like seriously, what would you do in that situation?

716
00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:21,120
I'd be terrified.

717
00:27:21,120 --> 00:27:22,880
Like you just killed somebody.

718
00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:23,440
Yeah.

719
00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:24,240
You're not lying.

720
00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:24,720
It's too late.

721
00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:28,960
One of which is, I mean, I don't know if he's like Karl Pansrand size or not,

722
00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:30,240
but that's what I imagine.

723
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:30,880
Big ol' bitch.

724
00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:31,840
The big ol' bitch.

725
00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:32,640
You want a job?

726
00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:33,120
Yeah.

727
00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:38,720
So she says that when she made the call, she followed the instructions of Melissa to a T,

728
00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:41,680
which is exactly why she said he had a heart attack.

729
00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:42,960
Yeah.

730
00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:44,480
And she held onto this for how long?

731
00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:44,880
A month.

732
00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:45,440
A month.

733
00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:46,000
Oh no.

734
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:48,160
I mean, I probably wouldn't flip that entire month.

735
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:48,400
Yeah.

736
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:49,040
That was me.

737
00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:50,160
Of course she was terrified.

738
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:53,520
Well, the story seemed kind of far-fetched to the Rangers.

739
00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:55,120
They were like, that's really specific.

740
00:27:55,120 --> 00:27:56,880
That's a lot of detail, you know.

741
00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:58,960
But they were like, all right, like we'll-

742
00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:00,480
She can't find a happy medium.

743
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:00,720
Right.

744
00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:02,880
It's like, no, he just had a heart attack.

745
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:04,800
And then it's this long dramatic story.

746
00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:05,840
A long story.

747
00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:06,240
Yeah.

748
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:06,640
It's like that.

749
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:07,920
The truth is in between.

750
00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:11,200
That Kevin Hart, he's like, I make an excuse for everything.

751
00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:12,720
He's like, if I'm late, I have an excuse.

752
00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:15,840
And he lays out this entire long scenario at the end of it.

753
00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:18,640
He's like, anyways, that's not five minutes late to work.

754
00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:20,320
It's like this whole long story.

755
00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:21,280
He's like, anyways.

756
00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:27,200
So the Rangers had noted that she was actually too calm telling this story,

757
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:28,320
according to them.

758
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:31,040
And that the 911 call that she made was also very calm.

759
00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:35,680
And they were like, if you would just witness to murder 30 to 45 minutes prior to this,

760
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:40,240
wouldn't you be a little shaky in your voice or a little bit more like, oh my god,

761
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:44,480
like some- like I would probably try to follow their instructions.

762
00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:45,360
This is just me personally.

763
00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:45,600
Yeah.

764
00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:49,840
Follow their instructions, but tip off the paramedics, like you need to get here now or whatever.

765
00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:50,560
Yeah.

766
00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:54,480
I could see that, especially if you just witnessed a murder.

767
00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:59,440
And even if you were instructed to say that it's a heart attack or whatever,

768
00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:01,600
you still just witnessed a murder.

769
00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:03,360
You'd still be very upset.

770
00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:04,080
Yeah.

771
00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:09,680
Although 30 to 45 minutes seems specific, but who's to say Melissa wouldn't just check her

772
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:12,480
phone for the records to make sure that she actually waited that long.

773
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:12,880
That's true.

774
00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:16,080
Instead of just calling right away to the left, which I probably would have tried to do.

775
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:17,600
Celestina probably took a nap.

776
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:19,040
You know what?

777
00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:20,880
I'm just going to just rest this off.

778
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:21,600
Sleep this one.

779
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:21,920
Yeah.

780
00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:27,120
So now they're thinking that she might have something to hide because her story seems a

781
00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:27,840
little far-fetched.

782
00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:31,440
Well, the Rangers do their due diligence.

783
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:36,320
And I love this because you know, some, and it's unlikely in the same county,

784
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:40,880
but you always hear stories about like police stations that are too like prideful to work

785
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:45,040
with each other or like, oh, well, I'm a sheriff and I'm a Ranger and you're just a cop.

786
00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:46,720
Like I'm not going to bring even on this investment.

787
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:49,440
You know, you kind of, and I'm like, a jurisdiction.

788
00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:49,760
Yeah.

789
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:53,760
Unfortunately, you hear things like that, but the Rangers did exactly what they should have

790
00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:55,440
done and get on them.

791
00:29:55,440 --> 00:30:00,000
They shared all that information that they got with the Hildago, Hildago, Hildago,

792
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:00,560
Hildago.

793
00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:01,120
Yeah.

794
00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:01,840
It's right here.

795
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:03,600
It says, hid all go.

796
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:10,320
So they shared all this information with the Hildago County Sheriff's Office and two days

797
00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:13,280
later, investigators went to the Comfort House to speak with Melissa.

798
00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:13,840
Damn.

799
00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:18,320
They didn't want to tip her off because obviously that's a way to, you know, make

800
00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:19,040
someone scared.

801
00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:20,960
So they just spoke with her about Marty.

802
00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:21,440
Marty.

803
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:23,520
She said that they kids.

804
00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:28,400
She said that they became really close after Penny died and he trusted them.

805
00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:32,160
After Penny died and he trusted her enough to confide in her about his wealth.

806
00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:33,680
Remember, I told you they were millionaires.

807
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:35,920
The plot thickens.

808
00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:39,200
This is all Melissa's words, not quoted, but yeah.

809
00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:44,640
She said that he has invested wisely and still have, I'm sorry, he said, I've invested my

810
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:49,200
money really wisely and I still have millions of dollars from this stock that my wife had.

811
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:52,720
She said that he told her that he planned to leave some money to the church, some to the

812
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:56,480
Comfort House, some to his grandchildren, but none of it to his son Mark.

813
00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:58,960
Mark. So she said this?

814
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:02,080
She said that he told her that I'm going to leave this much money here, this much money

815
00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:04,560
here, but Mark isn't getting any of it.

816
00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:07,040
His only son isn't going to get any of my money.

817
00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:07,600
What?

818
00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:08,480
Um.

819
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:10,480
It doesn't sound like a very Marty thing to say.

820
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:10,800
Yeah.

821
00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:12,160
I feel like I know Marty pretty well.

822
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:12,640
Right?

823
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:12,880
Yeah.

824
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:13,840
We go way back.

825
00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:14,080
Yeah.

826
00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:19,120
Well, apparently, according to Melissa, him and his son's relationship was not very good

827
00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:23,280
and she believed that the son was after his money for a while.

828
00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:28,480
So she believed that his son was kind of minding his peas in queue, waiting for his dad to die

829
00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:30,640
so that he could collect his inheritance or his life savings.

830
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:35,360
She also claimed that Marty asked her to be sure that Mark did not try to take advantage of him.

831
00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:36,880
What?

832
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:37,360
I know.

833
00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:38,080
I'm getting annoyed.

834
00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:44,320
Also, according to her, Marty asked her to take over his affairs, asked her to be the

835
00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:47,920
executive of his estate and also gave her power of attorney.

836
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:49,040
Where?

837
00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:51,120
Where's the document, Melissa?

838
00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:52,560
Melissa.

839
00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:53,600
Where's the receipt?

840
00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:57,760
Melissa then explained that she hired Celestina to look after him during the week,

841
00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:03,520
but she said that just before he died, Marty called her mad and accused Celestina of stealing

842
00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:04,400
from him.

843
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:07,760
And he was like, this housekeeper stealing from me, get your ass over here, blah, blah,

844
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:09,280
I got a bone to pick with you because you hired her.

845
00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:14,240
There was cash missing from the house, but there was never any confirmation to say that it was

846
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:14,880
Celestina.

847
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:21,440
And Melissa told the police that she was going to the house to confront Celestina when she got

848
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:22,960
the call about Marty.

849
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:24,400
Convenient.

850
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:30,080
You know what, Melissa is just a do-gooder and she clearly is a victim in this as well.

851
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:30,720
Oh, absolutely.

852
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:32,160
I mean, I believe everything that she's saying.

853
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:33,200
Totally.

854
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:36,320
Oh, she's also crying and making it seem like she's very upset at this point.

855
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:40,080
Probably, probably, crocodile tears.

856
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:45,280
I put on a bunch of chapstick before this, so I didn't get in giraffe.

857
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:47,920
That's a really good idea.

858
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:49,200
I should do that next time.

859
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:52,880
I talk so much, I should put like a law zinjin.

860
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:58,800
So after receiving all of this information, the cops decided that they weren't going to

861
00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:03,120
tell her about what Celestina had told them in an attempt to not piss her off because

862
00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:05,200
she's clearly fabricating this whole thing.

863
00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:07,200
I mean, they weren't like 100.

864
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:08,320
The woman's delusional.

865
00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:12,000
Yeah, but they weren't like, they weren't, they didn't have anything to say that what

866
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:13,200
she was saying wasn't the truth.

867
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:13,360
Right.

868
00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:16,000
You know, and so they were like, they wanted her side of things.

869
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:16,720
Yeah, absolutely.

870
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:17,520
Even if it was.

871
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:22,400
So now, based on all of this information, the investigators have three persons of interest.

872
00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:25,920
The housekeeper Celestina, Melissa, and now the son Mark.

873
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:26,080
No.

874
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:27,360
I know.

875
00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:28,080
They have to try.

876
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:28,320
They have to.

877
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:29,120
Or Mark.

878
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:30,720
They have to try out every lead though.

879
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:31,280
Of course.

880
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:36,400
Now on March 2nd of 2015, the Rangers requested an interview with Mark.

881
00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:38,160
Of course, he was like, yeah, absolutely.

882
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:41,040
They interviewed him about the knowledge that he had on the death of his dad.

883
00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:44,960
He said that after his mom died, he was worried about his dad's mental health declining

884
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:49,920
and also stated that on December 3rd, so this is like a month and a half before he died,

885
00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:53,600
he actually called his dad and his dad was worried that he was trying to murder him and

886
00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:54,400
steal his money.

887
00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:59,840
So when I heard this, I was like, okay, so there is a little bit of accuracy to like,

888
00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:01,760
of course, Mark's not lying about this.

889
00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:05,200
He said that he called his dad and his dad was been saying, no, like you're trying to

890
00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:05,520
murder me.

891
00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:06,640
You're trying to steal my money.

892
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:09,360
Melissa had manipulated him into thinking that.

893
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:10,320
That's horrible.

894
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:14,720
And he started to believe that because his mental health was declining so rapidly.

895
00:34:14,720 --> 00:34:16,640
Well, this like really made me upset.

896
00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:17,520
So get ready.

897
00:34:18,240 --> 00:34:19,920
Mark, of course, got upset when you heard this.

898
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:22,000
So he just said goodbye and hung up on his dad.

899
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:23,760
And that was the last time that he spoke to him.

900
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:25,040
No, don't say that.

901
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:28,080
Oh, that's heartbreaking.

902
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:28,240
I know.

903
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:29,440
Don't.

904
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:34,320
It's got to be so hard for Mark, though, because he probably doesn't understand why his father

905
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:37,440
is saying these things when he's known who his father is for so long.

906
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:38,000
Yeah.

907
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:42,640
Though, like he said, his mental deterioration and just was, it was really bad.

908
00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:47,680
And of course, when you have somebody that's trying to manipulate someone else that's in

909
00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:52,800
that state, you know, I can see why Marty would be confrontational or whatever.

910
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:54,960
But oh, poor Mark.

911
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:55,440
Dude, I know.

912
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:58,960
And I feel really bad too because, you know, at this point, he doesn't know, of course,

913
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:00,160
that anything like this is happening.

914
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:04,000
But in hindsight, had he known that Melissa was manipulating him, he would have never

915
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:04,640
spoken to his dad.

916
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:05,760
He probably would have been down there.

917
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:05,920
He probably would have been down there.

918
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:07,760
Yeah, of course, he would have been down there and stuff.

919
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:13,280
So that's just really upsetting because I can't imagine, you know, like, well, it's hard.

920
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:17,200
You know, he's the one that robbed them of that, of course, it's not Mark's fault, of course.

921
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:20,480
Now, like I said, this is the last time that they spoke.

922
00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:25,600
He also said that after his father shut him out, that was when Melissa decided to step in

923
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:27,520
as the middleman, as the messenger.

924
00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:31,280
So she would relay things that were happening with Marty to Mark.

925
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:32,080
So they were talking.

926
00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:36,000
And that's why he felt confident enough to call her on that day that he unfortunately passed

927
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:36,960
away because they had been talking.

928
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:43,120
Yeah, she probably knew that if if Mark got savvy to what was happening, then she'd be

929
00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:43,360
out.

930
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:43,680
Of course.

931
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:46,320
So she had to kind of repair that bridge.

932
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:47,040
Of course.

933
00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:51,920
Now, it wasn't until Marty passed away, unfortunately, that Mark realized that Melissa had much,

934
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:55,840
much more control over him than he thought and much more control of the situation, not even just

935
00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:56,400
over Marty.

936
00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:01,360
He said that when he arrived at the house at the day that his dad died, he brought his son

937
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:02,800
Doug along with him, his adult son.

938
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:06,800
He said that they couldn't get in because the locks had been changed on the door on the

939
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:07,280
front door.

940
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:08,160
Yeah.

941
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:12,640
Now, Mark confronts Melissa about this, you know, when he has time later on.

942
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:18,560
She goes immediately to her car and grabs some paperwork and presents him with this new and

943
00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:22,160
improved will of Marty's that shows that she is power of attorney.

944
00:36:22,720 --> 00:36:26,320
And so she changed the locks so Mark couldn't get in to like take anything.

945
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:31,040
Yeah, I think that stuff to see to see any of that was happening.

946
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:34,640
Maybe maybe there was paperwork on the tables at some point and it was laid out and stuff

947
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:35,040
like that.

948
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:35,840
Yeah.

949
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:36,400
Yeah.

950
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:40,560
And she doesn't want him showing up unannounced and then her plans foiled.

951
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:41,280
Yeah.

952
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:45,680
Now, this is obviously when Mark and his son Doug became suspicious that she had manipulated

953
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:49,600
him to doing all of these things before he died, which was the case, unfortunately.

954
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:50,960
What was the will about it?

955
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:54,480
It named her power of attorney and named her executor in his death.

956
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:57,920
It's called like a transfer and transfer in death.

957
00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:00,880
So all of his money is going to go to her if he if it when he dies.

958
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:01,520
That's horrible.

959
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:02,400
And he signed it.

960
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:02,800
So.

961
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:07,920
And it's one of those things that's like, can you really prove that he was what is it

962
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:12,320
called when you have to be like sane and well, that he's like a sound mind.

963
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:12,960
Yeah, exactly.

964
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:16,560
But can you really prove that when Mark literally is over here saying like he hasn't been like

965
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:19,520
he's his health and mental and emotional deteriorating.

966
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:23,280
Like he thought that Mark was coming for his money and it wasn't true and stuff.

967
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:24,320
So it.

968
00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:24,720
Yeah.

969
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:30,880
So Doug and Mark start to put together the pieces of her sinister mind is what I put

970
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:32,880
because it's terrible.

971
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:38,400
Like how calculated and it's unfortunately like cunning, like an annoying way.

972
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:38,720
Yeah.

973
00:37:38,720 --> 00:37:39,600
It's kind of smart.

974
00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:41,440
Like the worst fucking way.

975
00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:42,640
No, seriously.

976
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:43,440
I mean, it's not smart.

977
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:43,920
No, I know.

978
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:47,040
But she has all of her people that have ducks in a row.

979
00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:47,520
Yeah, much.

980
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:50,480
Now, people want what they want.

981
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:51,760
They'll do anything to get it.

982
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:51,840
Yeah.

983
00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:52,320
And yeah.

984
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:56,560
Now, after Mark told the authorities this, of course, he immediately was like, look at this

985
00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:56,880
bitch.

986
00:37:57,520 --> 00:37:59,840
They decided to take a closer look at Melissa Patterson again.

987
00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:03,440
Of course, like I said earlier, her family was really politically involved in the community.

988
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:06,240
So they were able to get a lot of information about her background, which is a good thing

989
00:38:06,240 --> 00:38:06,720
for the police.

990
00:38:06,720 --> 00:38:07,200
Mm hmm.

991
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:11,280
Even though Melissa was acting a little strange, she actually kept her story really

992
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:12,320
straight from the get go.

993
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:12,800
Yeah.

994
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:13,680
She was not budging.

995
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:16,800
And so that was like giving them her more credit and they were like, maybe she is telling

996
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:17,280
the truth.

997
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:17,840
Like, I don't know.

998
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:18,320
Right.

999
00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:22,800
So, Lesnina, however, was changing her story slightly, giving authorities something to

1000
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:23,200
question.

1001
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:26,640
So now they're leaning more towards her, which is like, no, like you're going in the wrong

1002
00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:27,120
direction.

1003
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:29,920
So they bring her back for a second interview.

1004
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:34,480
So she says once again that a man named Mario murdered Marty and Melissa was involved.

1005
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:39,040
Well, they realized that Celestina was hired as an interference between Mark and Marty.

1006
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:39,920
Get this.

1007
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:45,760
Melissa instructed Celestina that if Mark called the house, she was not to let him talk

1008
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:46,320
to Marty.

1009
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:50,800
She was she was told to give him the run around so that he didn't talk to Marty so that Marty

1010
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:54,640
didn't accidentally like say something that Melissa didn't want him to say.

1011
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:55,040
Yeah.

1012
00:38:55,040 --> 00:39:00,160
So when asked about Mario, she reiterated it reiterates that she doesn't know his name

1013
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:01,360
or his last name, pardon me.

1014
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:04,640
But he had previously been at the Nell House, like I said earlier, to fix a few things.

1015
00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:06,800
So he had called her on her cell phone before.

1016
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:10,400
So the police were able to track this phone number.

1017
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:12,560
Sorry, phone number.

1018
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:18,240
They were able to track this phone number and they actually just typed it into Facebook

1019
00:39:18,240 --> 00:39:19,520
and it just popped up.

1020
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:20,800
Because this guy is straight.

1021
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:21,280
Yeah.

1022
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:23,920
He's like, here I am.

1023
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:26,240
Not hired for the brains of the operation.

1024
00:39:26,240 --> 00:39:27,520
He's just the muscle.

1025
00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:28,160
Right.

1026
00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:32,160
They come up with a photo and a Facebook profile with the name of Angel Mario Garza.

1027
00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:32,720
Idiot.

1028
00:39:32,720 --> 00:39:35,360
Like here I am for all the word to see.

1029
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:37,040
I guarantee you it wasn't even on private.

1030
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:38,800
You can see all of his posts.

1031
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:40,800
He's like going to the Nell House.

1032
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:41,360
Yeah.

1033
00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:42,480
Right later.

1034
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:44,320
I can't wait to see you Marty.

1035
00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:45,760
On my way.

1036
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:50,160
Like hanging out with my BFF Melissa all day today.

1037
00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:51,920
Just did some sketchy shit.

1038
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:54,160
Stupid.

1039
00:39:54,160 --> 00:40:00,080
So this idiot, Mario, we were just talking about it, had been arrested before because

1040
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:01,680
he's not very bright.

1041
00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:05,920
So the police came back the next morning with Celestina and they gave her a photo lineup

1042
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:06,960
to look.

1043
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:10,160
So obviously not like a in person lineup, but a lineup of photos.

1044
00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:12,720
And you know, actually one of the things I think is really interesting about the photo

1045
00:40:12,720 --> 00:40:16,560
lineup is that they include pictures of people that are no longer alive just to make sure

1046
00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:18,240
that you're not just giving them some bullshit.

1047
00:40:18,240 --> 00:40:18,800
Right.

1048
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:20,800
Or the people that are not alive.

1049
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:22,000
Right.

1050
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:24,640
Or they'll include people that have been imprisoned during the time of this crime.

1051
00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:25,280
Right.

1052
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:27,440
So they know that you can't just like pick someone out.

1053
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:28,320
Right.

1054
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:29,600
Which is awesome.

1055
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:34,400
Well the investigators noted that when she saw his photo her face went completely pale

1056
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:35,840
and she immediately pointed to him.

1057
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:38,320
She's like that's the motherfucker right there.

1058
00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:41,040
They had pinpointed exactly who he was, remember?

1059
00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:42,000
Because she didn't know his last name.

1060
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:43,840
So now they have like an ID on this guy.

1061
00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:44,640
Yeah.

1062
00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:48,400
So at this point investigators are more on the side of Celestina and now they're onto

1063
00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:52,640
Melissa who said that she was never at the house until she got called out on the day of

1064
00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:54,560
the murder after the EMS got there.

1065
00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:58,320
So she hadn't been to the house prior to that time on that day.

1066
00:40:58,320 --> 00:40:59,120
Melissa said that?

1067
00:40:59,120 --> 00:40:59,520
Mm-hmm.

1068
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:00,320
Okay.

1069
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:02,480
Well what was Mario's record again?

1070
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:03,280
It didn't say.

1071
00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:05,600
Oh he just, I thought you said that he had been previously arrested.

1072
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:07,120
He had been arrested before but it didn't say.

1073
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:07,840
It didn't say what.

1074
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:08,080
Okay.

1075
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:08,480
Sorry.

1076
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:09,120
It's okay.

1077
00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:14,320
Um so now they're onto Melissa who had previously said that she was never at the house until

1078
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:17,440
she got the call on the day of the murder that EMS got there.

1079
00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:22,640
So she hadn't been at the house at all that day according to her until they called for the EMS.

1080
00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:23,200
Bullshit.

1081
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:23,440
Yeah.

1082
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:30,400
Now thank god for dumb killers because cell phone records came back and showed that all

1083
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:36,160
three of their phones pinged the tower at the same time at the residence at the time of the murder.

1084
00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:37,120
So dumbasses.

1085
00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:40,000
Literally all three so she's like I wasn't there.

1086
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:40,560
I wasn't there.

1087
00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:42,640
Who the fuck had your phone then?

1088
00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:43,680
Yeah you were.

1089
00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:44,560
You were definitely there.

1090
00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:45,040
Yeah.

1091
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:49,520
With Celestina's account seemingly confirmed authorities asked her to help with a dangerous

1092
00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:50,400
assignment.

1093
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:51,040
No.

1094
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:53,520
They wanted to use her as bait and put a wire on her.

1095
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:54,080
Wire?

1096
00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:54,960
Oh no that's the worst.

1097
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:57,200
And it attempts to get a confession from Melissa.

1098
00:41:57,200 --> 00:41:58,320
Oh that's the worst.

1099
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:01,200
You're putting somebody in a really dangerous situation.

1100
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:01,760
I would be?

1101
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:04,560
For the benefit of an investigation.

1102
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:05,440
Shadding myself.

1103
00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:06,000
Yeah.

1104
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:06,240
Literally I would.

1105
00:42:06,240 --> 00:42:09,040
I would have chat and I would not have stopped chatting.

1106
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:10,560
You know me I'm a terrible liar.

1107
00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:11,280
I wouldn't be able to do that.

1108
00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:11,520
Me too.

1109
00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:11,840
I'm like.

1110
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:15,760
Glittering.

1111
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:22,400
Now Celestina agrees and on July 5th 2015 this is five months after the murder she sits

1112
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:23,680
down with Melissa.

1113
00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:27,680
She confronted her with the accusation of the murder and of course Melissa denied,

1114
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:28,800
denied, denied.

1115
00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:29,120
However.

1116
00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:30,480
She probably knew she was bait.

1117
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:33,200
However she didn't come across as somebody who was innocent.

1118
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:35,520
She didn't say I don't know what you're talking about.

1119
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:37,120
I would have never done that this night the other.

1120
00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:38,800
She just said I don't know what you're talking about.

1121
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:39,440
I don't know what you're talking about.

1122
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:40,720
Melissa's a bad liar too.

1123
00:42:40,720 --> 00:42:41,200
Literally.

1124
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:42,160
Clearly.

1125
00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:44,800
You could tell by the recording that she was guilty of something but they didn't get

1126
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:46,800
a full confession so they couldn't it wouldn't hold any weight.

1127
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:47,040
Right.

1128
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:51,760
Now there was a little bit of a lull after this but then all of a sudden not all of the

1129
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:54,640
sudden after you know more investigating a lead popped up.

1130
00:42:54,640 --> 00:43:01,920
Authorities discovered what is called an adult protection an adult protection services report.

1131
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:06,480
So it's like you're filing a report you think that an adult is in danger so it's almost like

1132
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:08,400
a child endangerment report but it's for an elder.

1133
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:09,040
Yeah.

1134
00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:09,280
Yeah.

1135
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:14,720
Um this was filed two months before Marty's death by one Raquel Ibarra.

1136
00:43:14,720 --> 00:43:16,240
Who's Raquel Ibarra?

1137
00:43:16,240 --> 00:43:18,880
She had called the police department and filed this report.

1138
00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:22,880
They contacted her and asked her why she did this and she said that she was providing

1139
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:25,760
bereavement services to Marty after his wife's death.

1140
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:27,600
She was like a therapist of science.

1141
00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:27,680
She was like a counselor.

1142
00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:28,480
Yeah.

1143
00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:34,320
Um he was clearly very visibly upset one day and she asked him why and he said that he had

1144
00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:39,440
learned that the beneficiary on his stock accounts had been changed to Melissa.

1145
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:39,840
What?

1146
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:45,120
She was named as the transfer of transfer on death like I said earlier so if he died she

1147
00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:46,720
would get all of his money.

1148
00:43:46,720 --> 00:43:52,160
He was upset saying things like quote why did this young lady do this and quote she doesn't

1149
00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:53,840
have the authority to do this.

1150
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:57,120
So he knew what she was trying to do and he was pissed about it.

1151
00:43:57,120 --> 00:44:00,240
So she didn't convince him to like oh here's my password.

1152
00:44:00,240 --> 00:44:02,320
So the clock was ticking Melissa.

1153
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:02,960
She knew.

1154
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:03,120
Yeah.

1155
00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:03,680
Yeah.

1156
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:07,120
Uh so this is when Marty called her at the session.

1157
00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:07,680
Ah.

1158
00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:13,040
So this is when Marty called her at the session and he was like what the fuck and she like

1159
00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:16,560
what are you like you can't do this and she was like calm down I'll be right there or whatever

1160
00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:17,440
like how she talks.

1161
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:21,760
Um and she showed up to the session with this Sprekely bar in the room right so they're

1162
00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:23,040
all together in this room.

1163
00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:27,760
Like for her to like confront him or he wants to confront her.

1164
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:28,000
Oh.

1165
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:29,360
And she showed up in person.

1166
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:29,840
Yeah.

1167
00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:32,880
Because well she's gonna try to manipulate and she's gonna like

1168
00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:35,440
try to smooth things over so Rock Hell doesn't say shit.

1169
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:39,200
And also there's no record of this because they're not on the phone.

1170
00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:41,040
They're inside in person.

1171
00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:44,720
I mean maybe Rock Hell's you know they can legally record stuff if they just keep it

1172
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:46,720
private still.

1173
00:44:46,720 --> 00:44:48,800
But then she's a mandated reporter.

1174
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:49,680
Of course.

1175
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:54,320
So he was asking her why she did this to why she did this to him and he was telling her to

1176
00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:57,280
change it back because she does not have the right to any of his stuff.

1177
00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:02,160
Well Melissa was being really vague and she asked Rock Hell to leave the room so that

1178
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:04,480
they could have this conversation in private.

1179
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:06,480
Like she did with Celestina.

1180
00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:08,000
Was Mario there?

1181
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:09,040
No this was at the session.

1182
00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:09,680
No I know.

1183
00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:13,280
Then all of a sudden Mario gets out of the car.

1184
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:13,760
Shows up.

1185
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:16,160
It's like surprise motherfucker.

1186
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:19,600
When when Rock Hell was like why do I need to leave the room.

1187
00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:23,280
Melissa was trying to say that the information that they were talking about was privileged

1188
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:25,600
and that she didn't have any right to that information.

1189
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:27,040
Rock Hell did not buy that.

1190
00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:29,040
But of course she has no right to state.

1191
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:30,640
She can't be like no I need to hear all this.

1192
00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:35,760
So this is when she decided to report that adult protection service because she was like

1193
00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:37,600
something is clearly wrong here.

1194
00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:40,960
Like if this was his daughter it might be a different story but like this lady literally

1195
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:46,960
barely knows this guy according to me and he's obviously visibly upset exactly for this reason.

1196
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:48,560
So something's going on.

1197
00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:50,080
Clearly she was manipulating him.

1198
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:50,400
Yeah.

1199
00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:52,960
Now I'm trying to isolate him as well.

1200
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:53,440
Yeah.

1201
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:56,000
Now we're at August 25th 2015.

1202
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:58,560
This is when investigators bring in Mario Garza.

1203
00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:01,600
So Angel his real name is but Mario Angel.

1204
00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:02,320
Angel.

1205
00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:03,360
Angel Patista.

1206
00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:04,400
Angel Patista.

1207
00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:05,760
We watch a lot of Dexter.

1208
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:10,000
He said that he worked part-time at the Comfort House and in January of that year

1209
00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:14,800
Melissa confided in him that she was about to become a rich woman.

1210
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:19,120
You better marry me tomorrow I'm gonna be a rich bitch.

1211
00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:24,080
She told him that he changed his will and that she would share some of the money with

1212
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:25,840
him if he helped her complete this murder.

1213
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:30,800
So she was like I changed this guy's will I'm gonna be a millionaire and I'll split it with you.

1214
00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:35,040
Don't you love when when people do this where they think that they're gonna get this like big

1215
00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:38,960
like insurmountable amount of money literally and they think that they're gonna like oh you

1216
00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:43,200
just go ahead and kill him now and I'll pay you when I'm a millionaire and they never become

1217
00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:46,400
millionaires so they both get dicked it's hilarious.

1218
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:49,760
I will gladly pay you Tuesday for a hamburger today.

1219
00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:52,240
Literally.

1220
00:46:52,240 --> 00:46:58,320
Yeah so he admitted that he agreed with this deal and he went to the house with her on that day.

1221
00:46:58,320 --> 00:47:02,720
He said that when she gave him the signal however he went inside to do the deed but

1222
00:47:02,720 --> 00:47:05,440
lost the courage to actually complete the murder himself.

1223
00:47:06,240 --> 00:47:12,080
Now he's saying that she was the one that actually physically with her own hands killed

1224
00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:13,600
Marty instead of him.

1225
00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:16,400
But they were the only two in the room with Marty of course and he can't.

1226
00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:21,200
One saying one well Mario's the only one that's saying that anybody did anything at this point

1227
00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:23,440
because they can't even get a confession from Melissa.

1228
00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:27,120
Now this is when a manner of death is now brought to light.

1229
00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:30,320
It's kind of bad of course I mean any death is gonna be bad.

1230
00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:30,880
Turn of warning.

1231
00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:36,160
So Marty Nell was killed by somebody putting a plastic bag over his head in an attempt to

1232
00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:37,120
suffocate him.

1233
00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:41,840
He fought very hard trying to breathe but unfortunately was unsuccessful and ultimately

1234
00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:42,800
died from this.

1235
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:47,040
However then that's that's the end of talking about manner of death.

1236
00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:50,880
The police believe his story a Mario story that he backed out last second but if they of

1237
00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:53,280
course arrest him anyways because he was involved he was there.

1238
00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:53,840
Doi.

1239
00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:54,720
You could have stopped that.

1240
00:47:54,720 --> 00:47:55,440
Dummy.

1241
00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:58,800
Now with Mario in custody police are zeroing in on Melissa.

1242
00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:03,680
So this is the next day August 26, 2015 police arrived back at the comfort house.

1243
00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:08,720
They asked her to accompany them with an interview but she declined saying that she

1244
00:48:08,720 --> 00:48:11,200
doesn't want to talk and instead she wants an attorney.

1245
00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:12,240
No thank you.

1246
00:48:12,240 --> 00:48:14,000
No I'm fine today thank you.

1247
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:14,640
Yeah thanks.

1248
00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:19,120
The day after Mario gets arrested and she knows that he was talking to them.

1249
00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:19,920
Yeah.

1250
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:23,200
Well either way they're going to want to talk to her because there was someone admitted

1251
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:24,800
that there was a crime that happened.

1252
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:25,440
Exactly.

1253
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:26,720
So I mean yeah.

1254
00:48:26,720 --> 00:48:27,760
So this is Dummy.

1255
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:28,480
This is amazing.

1256
00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:31,040
She goes no I don't want to talk I'll just take an attorney.

1257
00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:33,280
Thanks and they go well go and arrest her capital murder.

1258
00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:33,760
Thanks.

1259
00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:40,640
You could meet up with him at the station.

1260
00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:42,640
Really yeah we'll bring you to talk to you.

1261
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:43,520
We'll go over there.

1262
00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:44,640
Cute you're still arrested.

1263
00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:48,800
This kind of hurt my heart though one of the arresting officers actually knew her dad and

1264
00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:51,200
brother personally because they were so known.

1265
00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:53,040
Her brother had political ties as well.

1266
00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:53,680
Yeah.

1267
00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:57,520
And he was quoted as saying that it was quote devastating having to arrest a daughter of

1268
00:48:57,520 --> 00:49:01,520
a personal friend of mine but as a sheriff of this county we had to do what we had to do.

1269
00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:05,040
I mean that's a bummer but at the same time she's a fucking criminal.

1270
00:49:05,040 --> 00:49:06,160
You're a fucking bitch.

1271
00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:06,400
Yeah.

1272
00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:11,840
Of course with their parents' pull and their money she doesn't stay in jail long and her

1273
00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:15,680
$500,000 bail was immediately posted by her parents.

1274
00:49:15,680 --> 00:49:17,680
Ugh God.

1275
00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:23,680
With the amount of people around this family this was a huge case in the community of course.

1276
00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:29,440
By now it was very clear that the quote unquote tension between Marty and his son was completely

1277
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:30,320
made up by Melissa.

1278
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:34,560
Investigators are now working overtime to build a case against her of course and they asked

1279
00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:38,240
Mark if he would be okay with them exhuming his dad's body in order to help with the

1280
00:49:38,240 --> 00:49:40,560
investigation maybe if they can find any defensive.

1281
00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:40,880
Do it.

1282
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:41,440
Do anything.

1283
00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:42,080
He agreed.

1284
00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:42,320
Yeah.

1285
00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:43,120
Thank God.

1286
00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:44,560
And they proceeded to do this.

1287
00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:48,240
Well honestly you know in cases like this unfortunately I mean she has power of attorney

1288
00:49:48,240 --> 00:49:52,000
if it had gone through she could have had him cremated and then she would have literally

1289
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:53,280
I'm sure that was her goal.

1290
00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:54,000
I'm sure.

1291
00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:54,800
Yeah.

1292
00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:59,280
So they proceeded to do this uh exhumation is that what the right word?

1293
00:49:59,280 --> 00:49:59,600
Yeah.

1294
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:00,480
Exhumation.

1295
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:04,480
While the autopsy was being performed they did note that he had a couple of broken ribs on

1296
00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:07,280
his back which would be consistent with somebody being held down.

1297
00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:08,160
Yes.

1298
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:13,200
He also infrared light also revealed suspicious marks on his neck which were signs of trauma from

1299
00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:13,840
strangulation.

1300
00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:14,080
Yeah.

1301
00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:14,640
Of course.

1302
00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:15,360
Yeah.

1303
00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:17,760
So they have all they need to nab this bitch is what I wrote.

1304
00:50:19,840 --> 00:50:23,360
So soon after her arrest the chairman of the comfort house board remember the guy I talked

1305
00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:28,240
about earlier notifies investigators that this murder might not be the only crime that

1306
00:50:28,240 --> 00:50:31,520
Melissa's committed in the recent past.

1307
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:38,400
He noticed that there were a lot of missing funds from the comfort house non-profit organization

1308
00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:43,280
organization shortly after she was arrested and wanted to complete an audit to be sure.

1309
00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:44,080
Yeah.

1310
00:50:44,080 --> 00:50:47,680
So during this time they're waiting for the audit investigators turn their attention to

1311
00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:52,000
the death of Penny saying that it was questionable and hastened.

1312
00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:56,320
Oh my god I forgot about the fact that Penny like took a turn for the words.

1313
00:50:56,880 --> 00:50:57,600
Oh my god.

1314
00:50:57,600 --> 00:51:01,600
So they also discussed exhuming her as well but at this point had obviously been much longer

1315
00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:04,560
and it probably wouldn't have led to anything and of course Mark has already been through

1316
00:51:04,560 --> 00:51:06,320
so much so they declined to do that.

1317
00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:10,320
He said you know what if she's behind bars for the rest of her life because my dad

1318
00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:11,440
I'll take that you know.

1319
00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:11,760
Yeah.

1320
00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:16,240
We don't want to risk throwing too much information at the jury and then getting confused and then

1321
00:51:16,240 --> 00:51:18,080
she doesn't have to do this.

1322
00:51:19,520 --> 00:51:21,200
So they decided to focus their case on Marty.

1323
00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:25,600
Two months after Melissa's arrest this audit comes back from the chairman with the chairman

1324
00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:26,480
of the board.

1325
00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:30,080
It showed that the comfort house accounts were pretty much stripped clean of money.

1326
00:51:30,720 --> 00:51:31,040
What?

1327
00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:35,520
The audit revealed that she had been embezzling money from the organization since her first

1328
00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:42,880
day working there totaling over two hundred thousand dollars and stolen money from a non-profit

1329
00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:47,600
in which twenty grand of this money went to funding her son's graduation party.

1330
00:51:48,240 --> 00:51:49,440
Twenty grand?

1331
00:51:50,560 --> 00:51:51,280
I'm screaming.

1332
00:51:51,280 --> 00:51:54,480
I'm pretty sure you can do a wedding in twenty thousand.

1333
00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:55,280
Literally.

1334
00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:55,520
What?

1335
00:51:56,080 --> 00:51:59,120
And nobody I'm sorry but nobody knew she was doing this.

1336
00:51:59,600 --> 00:52:03,120
How if I was or people just like benefited the doubt.

1337
00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:05,440
Well I don't know their family does have a lot of money so

1338
00:52:05,440 --> 00:52:08,800
maybe it wasn't really weird that she threw an extravagant party for her son.

1339
00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:10,640
But clearly she's a broke bitch.

1340
00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:11,120
Clearly.

1341
00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:12,640
And she's fucking greedy.

1342
00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:14,400
That's so greedy.

1343
00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:19,200
She was also a noted partier in which she would steal money to live her lavish lifestyle.

1344
00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:22,800
She would take frequent trips to Vegas which goals but not like that.

1345
00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:27,200
Just to blow the non-profit money like that's horrible.

1346
00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:28,240
Non-profit for them.

1347
00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:30,080
For me.

1348
00:52:30,080 --> 00:52:31,440
Profit for the casinos.

1349
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:32,320
You dumb bitch.

1350
00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:33,040
God.

1351
00:52:33,040 --> 00:52:33,680
Oh get this.

1352
00:52:33,680 --> 00:52:35,520
So that was 200 grand.

1353
00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:43,520
Investigator also discovered that after Marty's death Melissa transferred almost $250,000 from his accounts into hers.

1354
00:52:43,520 --> 00:52:47,280
So this is over half a million dollars that she's now stolen from two places.

1355
00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:49,120
I'm sorry did Mario get paid yet?

1356
00:52:51,120 --> 00:52:52,640
And Mario's still a broke bitch.

1357
00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:54,160
And he's still a broke asshole.

1358
00:52:54,160 --> 00:52:54,960
Goodbye.

1359
00:52:54,960 --> 00:52:56,400
I repissed.

1360
00:52:56,400 --> 00:52:57,200
What?

1361
00:52:57,200 --> 00:53:03,120
The money is all gone at this point and there are huge sums of money in this investigation that are still

1362
00:53:03,120 --> 00:53:04,560
missing or unaccounted for.

1363
00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:07,760
So all of that money that she's known from like she doesn't have it.

1364
00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:08,240
Yeah.

1365
00:53:08,240 --> 00:53:08,720
Oh of course not.

1366
00:53:08,720 --> 00:53:10,480
Hidden somewhere or she spent it.

1367
00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:11,120
God.

1368
00:53:12,240 --> 00:53:19,280
Because of all of this they looked into her financial past of course and realized that she was in debt to the IRS and several other organizations.

1369
00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:20,880
She had gone bankrupt.

1370
00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:21,760
Bankstrap.

1371
00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:30,880
She had gone bankrupt from her speech therapy job that she held before working for Comfort House and owed close to 300 grand in total.

1372
00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:33,680
But she could have paid that off.

1373
00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:34,240
Literally.

1374
00:53:34,240 --> 00:53:35,840
She could have done something right with the money.

1375
00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:36,400
Not really.

1376
00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:36,800
Yeah.

1377
00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:38,240
No but I mean like yeah.

1378
00:53:38,240 --> 00:53:40,400
It's not like she was in a Vegas party.

1379
00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:42,640
Yeah it's not like she was desperate is what I'm saying.

1380
00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:43,280
Yeah.

1381
00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:45,280
Like some people just get desperate.

1382
00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:48,000
No this woman doesn't care.

1383
00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:49,520
No she only cares about money.

1384
00:53:49,520 --> 00:53:51,920
She's narcissistic as fuck.

1385
00:53:51,920 --> 00:53:52,880
She's greedy.

1386
00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:53,680
She's gluttonous.

1387
00:53:53,680 --> 00:53:54,800
Like she doesn't care.

1388
00:53:54,800 --> 00:53:56,240
She doesn't care about all that debt that she has.

1389
00:53:56,240 --> 00:53:57,600
That's not why she's stealing this money.

1390
00:53:57,600 --> 00:54:00,480
She's stealing the money to make her life better for herself.

1391
00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:01,440
She doesn't care.

1392
00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:02,400
That's horrible.

1393
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:06,240
Now this is September 25th 2017 so two years later.

1394
00:54:06,240 --> 00:54:06,880
Okay.

1395
00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:08,320
The trial begins.

1396
00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:10,000
She's been in jail the whole time thank god.

1397
00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:10,160
Good.

1398
00:54:10,160 --> 00:54:11,920
Um oh so they didn't.

1399
00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:17,200
Well in between those two years before she's in jail right they can't she's not just is she gonna hold on is that how it works?

1400
00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:19,600
They're gonna be in jail while they're waiting trial.

1401
00:54:19,600 --> 00:54:20,000
What?

1402
00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:22,160
She wouldn't be free while she's awaiting trial would she?

1403
00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:24,480
It depends on if the the bail was paid.

1404
00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:25,440
Like the bond was paid.

1405
00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:26,080
Yeah it was.

1406
00:54:26,080 --> 00:54:27,840
So she was free for two years after this?

1407
00:54:27,840 --> 00:54:28,160
Yeah.

1408
00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:32,080
They probably had like an ankle monitor on her whatever but she probably just stayed home.

1409
00:54:32,080 --> 00:54:33,200
Ew that's annoying.

1410
00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:34,080
But isn't that horrible?

1411
00:54:34,080 --> 00:54:38,080
There's some there's like some crimes where they're like there's not gonna be a

1412
00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:40,480
they'll revoke the bond or the bail and you can't get out.

1413
00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:40,960
That's BS.

1414
00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:42,320
No we'll remember her parents paid the bail.

1415
00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:43,840
Or if they think you're a flight risk.

1416
00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:49,600
I mean it's a good thing that I don't know this information because that shows that I'm not a criminal and I've never been to jail before.

1417
00:54:49,600 --> 00:54:50,080
Have you?

1418
00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:54,000
I've never been to jail but I've definitely busted my fair share of friends out.

1419
00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:54,560
Oh my god.

1420
00:54:54,560 --> 00:54:55,280
For sure.

1421
00:54:56,000 --> 00:54:56,720
So now this is.

1422
00:54:56,720 --> 00:54:58,800
Shout out to Valentine's Day 2012.

1423
00:55:01,040 --> 00:55:01,600
Crazy year.

1424
00:55:02,320 --> 00:55:02,880
Why do you pay?

1425
00:55:02,880 --> 00:55:03,600
No.

1426
00:55:03,600 --> 00:55:04,800
Uh wait that was your 2000.

1427
00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:09,360
Anyways um now September 25th 2017 Melissa's trial begins.

1428
00:55:09,360 --> 00:55:14,000
Among the charges theft from a non-profit, misapplication of fiduciary property which is

1429
00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:18,240
like misuse of the money that he was entrusting her with and of course capital murder.

1430
00:55:18,240 --> 00:55:23,200
Now is Greg Thompson and Joseph Orendian up against eight different defense attorneys.

1431
00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:26,240
One of whom that was named Rick Salinas no relation.

1432
00:55:26,240 --> 00:55:26,960
Oh well.

1433
00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:31,440
And out of those eight four of them were the most prominent defense attorneys in the county.

1434
00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:33,680
So they got the best of the best to defend her.

1435
00:55:33,680 --> 00:55:33,920
Yeah.

1436
00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:42,400
Um so prosecutors try to argue that her outrageous spending and pending bankruptcy was her motive for stealing comfort house money and from Marty of course.

1437
00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:42,960
Yeah.

1438
00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:50,720
According to them on the morning of his death he confronted Melissa to bring the wills over so that they could change them back and instead she was like nope you're gonna die.

1439
00:55:50,720 --> 00:55:51,520
Yeah it's terrible.

1440
00:55:51,520 --> 00:55:56,560
Uh they used Mario Garza's statement instead of having him testify because he was in custody.

1441
00:55:56,560 --> 00:55:58,320
But they used it against her.

1442
00:55:58,320 --> 00:55:58,800
Dummy.

1443
00:55:58,800 --> 00:55:59,120
Yeah.

1444
00:55:59,120 --> 00:56:02,640
The defense attempted to pin the crime on Mario instead of Melissa of course.

1445
00:56:02,640 --> 00:56:07,840
Even though she had chosen the best defense attorneys to get this if this doesn't scream I'm a narcissist.

1446
00:56:07,840 --> 00:56:08,720
Oh my god.

1447
00:56:08,720 --> 00:56:15,440
They had chosen the best defense attorneys but she was noted as picking which attorney would do the questioning and what questions they were gonna ask.

1448
00:56:15,440 --> 00:56:20,160
Because she thinks that she's a better defense attorney than a defense attorney.

1449
00:56:20,160 --> 00:56:23,520
An actual legal defense attorney.

1450
00:56:23,520 --> 00:56:27,280
Someone that went to school and made money instead of stealing it Melissa.

1451
00:56:27,280 --> 00:56:27,760
Right.

1452
00:56:27,760 --> 00:56:34,000
So she literally just thinks that she could manipulate everyone in the courtroom like she manipulated Mario.

1453
00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:34,560
Of course.

1454
00:56:34,560 --> 00:56:35,920
I put what a fucking narcissist.

1455
00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:45,600
Um so on November 1st 2017 after just three hours the jury from Melissa guilty on all counts and counts and she was sentenced to life without possibility.

1456
00:56:45,600 --> 00:56:46,160
Shock.

1457
00:56:46,160 --> 00:56:48,400
She never showed any remorse or regret.

1458
00:56:48,400 --> 00:56:49,200
Shock.

1459
00:56:49,200 --> 00:56:51,200
I thought you were gonna say shock again.

1460
00:56:51,200 --> 00:56:52,800
So you did it for me.

1461
00:56:52,800 --> 00:56:53,600
Yeah.

1462
00:56:53,600 --> 00:57:08,000
As far as the family of course they're glad that justice has been served but Marty's story is a constant reminder that unfortunately elderly citizens and seniors can be and are the most vulnerable of our community and people will try to take advantage of them.

1463
00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:08,800
Absolutely.

1464
00:57:08,800 --> 00:57:10,480
It's it's honestly scary.

1465
00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:11,040
It is.

1466
00:57:11,040 --> 00:57:19,120
It's people always think about you know childnapping and like nabbing childnapping and and stuff like that.

1467
00:57:19,120 --> 00:57:27,120
Or to make sure that you know you know children are our future but still yeah um yeah elderly people get taken advantage of.

1468
00:57:27,120 --> 00:57:33,120
Um well that was something that I was also really concerned with with paw you know when he went when he went into assisted living.

1469
00:57:33,120 --> 00:57:35,120
Thankfully that was never the case.

1470
00:57:35,120 --> 00:57:37,120
We didn't have to worry about that.

1471
00:57:37,120 --> 00:57:39,120
Um but you never know.

1472
00:57:39,120 --> 00:57:45,120
I mean it's really really tragic and it's people that work in places like this and it's people that are on the board in places like this.

1473
00:57:45,120 --> 00:57:47,120
It's ridiculous.

1474
00:57:47,120 --> 00:57:55,120
We're going to talk about the um again you know Melissa Patterson was never diagnosed with anything per se.

1475
00:57:55,120 --> 00:58:00,120
However I think that she really resonates well with narcissistic personality disorder.

1476
00:58:00,120 --> 00:58:05,120
Of course you can tell that she just thinks that the laws don't apply to her and that she can get away with anything and.

1477
00:58:05,120 --> 00:58:07,120
She's the smartest person in the world.

1478
00:58:07,120 --> 00:58:16,120
Now narcissistic personality disorder there's a bunch of different personality disorders but this one specifically is a mental condition in which people have an inflated sense of their own importance.

1479
00:58:16,120 --> 00:58:19,120
A deep need for excessive attention and admiration.

1480
00:58:19,120 --> 00:58:22,120
Trebled relationships and a lack of empathy for others.

1481
00:58:22,120 --> 00:58:29,120
Um behind this mask of extreme confidence lies a fragile self-esteem that's vulnerable to the slightest criticism.

1482
00:58:29,120 --> 00:58:36,120
Which is why she she she only talked to her defense attorneys in court and she shut the hell up for everything else.

1483
00:58:36,120 --> 00:58:42,120
Yeah or it's like when I think it was like two instances one with the with Raquel the counselor.

1484
00:58:42,120 --> 00:58:46,120
Yep.

1485
00:58:46,120 --> 00:58:52,120
And then with Marty over the phone that it's like a like a conflict for her because she wants to isolate Marty.

1486
00:58:52,120 --> 00:58:55,120
But she also can't look bad in the eyes of anyone.

1487
00:58:55,120 --> 00:58:56,120
Yeah of course.

1488
00:58:56,120 --> 00:59:01,120
So she rushed into the counseling session to plead her case as to why she's not a bad person.

1489
00:59:01,120 --> 00:59:08,120
And same thing with Marty I mean I'm sorry with Mark um when she you know got him between Marty and Mark.

1490
00:59:08,120 --> 00:59:12,120
Well she also doesn't want Mark to think that she's a bad person.

1491
00:59:12,120 --> 00:59:16,120
So you know that's that fees into her ego is egotistic nature.

1492
00:59:16,120 --> 00:59:19,120
Um that it's like well it's not me that's doing it.

1493
00:59:19,120 --> 00:59:20,120
I'm not it's not me.

1494
00:59:20,120 --> 00:59:21,120
I'm the good person.

1495
00:59:21,120 --> 00:59:22,120
I'm trying to help.

1496
00:59:22,120 --> 00:59:28,120
And yeah well unfortunately that lack of empathy with that comes people that are very very good at doing that.

1497
00:59:28,120 --> 00:59:31,120
Yeah what you're talking about and that's it's really scary.

1498
00:59:31,120 --> 00:59:35,120
Um it also says that a narcissistic personality disorder causes problems in many areas of life.

1499
00:59:35,120 --> 00:59:39,120
Of course such as relationships work school or financial affairs.

1500
00:59:39,120 --> 00:59:47,120
People with this disorder may be generally unhappy and disappointed when they're not given the special favors or admiration they believe they deserve.

1501
00:59:47,120 --> 00:59:52,120
And they may find their relationships unfulfilling and others may not enjoy being around them.

1502
00:59:52,120 --> 00:59:53,120
Huh yeah not.

1503
00:59:53,120 --> 01:00:04,120
Yeah I just I just think this is super interesting so I'm gonna read just a couple of symptoms and also this is um of course you know true crime podcast we want to shed light on.

1504
01:00:04,120 --> 01:00:14,120
The mental aspect of it but if you're listening to this and you think that somebody is like maybe expressing some of these symptoms or whatever it does not hurt to get someone the help that they need.

1505
01:00:14,120 --> 01:00:21,120
And we've seen in a lot of these cases had these people gotten the help they needed maybe their paths are different you know.

1506
01:00:21,120 --> 01:00:26,120
But it also means that just because some people exhibit some of these symptoms does not mean that they have a mental illness.

1507
01:00:26,120 --> 01:00:31,120
Oh of course of course not but you know these are some uh with all of these paired together you know to look out for it.

1508
01:00:31,120 --> 01:00:33,120
Right it's when it's excessive.

1509
01:00:33,120 --> 01:00:36,120
Yeah it's a it's a pattern of behavior that goes over a length of time.

1510
01:00:36,120 --> 01:00:37,120
Yeah absolutely.

1511
01:00:37,120 --> 01:00:44,120
So I'm just gonna list off a couple here so the symptoms include having an exaggerated sense of self importance.

1512
01:00:44,120 --> 01:00:48,120
Expects to be recognized as superior even without achievements that warrant it.

1513
01:00:48,120 --> 01:00:49,120
I feel like that's me.

1514
01:00:49,120 --> 01:00:51,120
Why you gotta call me out like that?

1515
01:00:51,120 --> 01:00:55,120
Yeah being envious of others and believe others envy them.

1516
01:00:55,120 --> 01:01:07,120
Being behaving in an arrogant or haughty manner coming across as conceited boastful and pretentious and insisting on having the best of everything for instance the best car or office which is why her son had to have the best graduation party.

1517
01:01:07,120 --> 01:01:09,120
I want the best of everything.

1518
01:01:09,120 --> 01:01:14,120
I mean too but I'm not gonna you know plot a murder to get it or steal it.

1519
01:01:14,120 --> 01:01:17,120
And honestly thieves piss me off dude.

1520
01:01:17,120 --> 01:01:18,120
Thieves are the worst.

1521
01:01:18,120 --> 01:01:21,120
Like fuck off I worked hard for this money.

1522
01:01:21,120 --> 01:01:25,120
And you're just gonna take it because you think you deserve it that literally grinds my gears.

1523
01:01:25,120 --> 01:01:27,120
Yeah I used some of your lettuce the other day.

1524
01:01:27,120 --> 01:01:29,120
What the fuck?

1525
01:01:29,120 --> 01:01:32,120
You're like I'm gonna go to the clinic now.

1526
01:01:32,120 --> 01:01:34,120
I'm not sick.

1527
01:01:34,120 --> 01:01:37,120
No I don't even think that was my lettuce lookie I don't know.

1528
01:01:37,120 --> 01:01:38,120
It was somebody's lettuce.

1529
01:01:38,120 --> 01:01:39,120
I ate it.

1530
01:01:39,120 --> 01:01:42,120
If you're listening we might have used your lettuce.

1531
01:01:42,120 --> 01:01:45,120
I think mom I used your lettuce.

1532
01:01:45,120 --> 01:01:53,120
Anyway so that was the story of Melissa Patterson she is behind bars for life as far as I know she is still alive and hopefully still rotting in prison.

1533
01:01:53,120 --> 01:01:54,120
Yeah suffer.

1534
01:01:54,120 --> 01:02:06,120
Yeah literally that's in that poor man you know with the way that Marty his story kind of unfolds and all of the badass things he did growing up like he probably would have lived well over a hundred years.

1535
01:02:06,120 --> 01:02:09,120
Yeah maybe even Penny was doing great you know.

1536
01:02:09,120 --> 01:02:10,120
And Penny.

1537
01:02:10,120 --> 01:02:20,120
And unfortunately they didn't get for lack of a better term justice for Penny however they did get justice for Marty so I think that in turn resonates with justice for Penny.

1538
01:02:20,120 --> 01:02:21,120
I'm sure that's all Penny cares about.

1539
01:02:21,120 --> 01:02:29,120
But they're together again and they're happy with each other eternally forever together so that makes me feel a little bit of a sliver lining I guess.

1540
01:02:29,120 --> 01:02:32,120
Yeah sweet people you seem like sweet people.

1541
01:02:32,120 --> 01:02:43,120
Well thanks for listening that was a long one oh not a long one actually that was actually just about the time that we're aiming for you know with our podcast I think the last couple of ones have been a little short.

1542
01:02:43,120 --> 01:02:47,120
They were like 40 minutes but yeah we're going to try to aim for that hour mark.

1543
01:02:47,120 --> 01:03:01,120
Yeah and you know we'll do some that are because there's some cases that simply don't have enough information to fill an entire hour if that's the case we'll preface it in the beginning or we'll put it in the title so that maybe if you just have a short commute like to work or the store or something you can pop on one hour.

1544
01:03:01,120 --> 01:03:12,120
Or if you have a road trip and you can play one of our normal episodes we can you know definitely preface if it's going to be like a small mini episode or like a full you know full episodes.

1545
01:03:12,120 --> 01:03:15,120
Definitely one of our upcoming episodes are going to be a two parter.

1546
01:03:15,120 --> 01:03:17,120
Yeah absolutely again we'll preface that.

1547
01:03:17,120 --> 01:03:22,120
On the other end it's like there's so many cases where there's just so much information.

1548
01:03:22,120 --> 01:03:32,120
Yeah well thank you for the suggestion the person that suggested us they didn't want their name to be said but thank you for the suggestion I've had a lot of fun researching this.

1549
01:03:32,120 --> 01:03:34,120
Yeah it sounded like an interesting case.

1550
01:03:34,120 --> 01:03:44,120
Yeah and there's also a documentary that gave me most of my information so I definitely want to give them credit it's an episode of Snapped and I think it's season 25 episode 20.

1551
01:03:44,120 --> 01:03:47,120
I'll put that in the show notes too just as a little.

1552
01:03:47,120 --> 01:03:48,120
That's on Oxygen by the way.

1553
01:03:48,120 --> 01:03:49,120
It is okay I got it on.

1554
01:03:49,120 --> 01:03:50,120
Snapped?

1555
01:03:50,120 --> 01:03:51,120
Yeah I got it on.

1556
01:03:51,120 --> 01:03:56,120
Well I actually rinsed it I got it on Prime Video for like $1.99 I got it.

1557
01:03:56,120 --> 01:04:01,120
Yeah but yeah it's definitely an interesting document it's only like 45 minutes long it's not anything crazy.

1558
01:04:01,120 --> 01:04:10,120
But yeah so in the meantime while we're waiting on our next episode to come out hopefully I'll be posted later this week I think I'm going to post this one in a couple days and then that one a couple days later.

1559
01:04:10,120 --> 01:04:20,120
We do have our Instagram set up so that is at diagnosing a killer we also have a Twitter account at killer diagnosis and then I finally set up that email like I said.

1560
01:04:20,120 --> 01:04:33,120
It is diagnosing a killer at gmail.com and again we are on Spotify and Apple podcasts so if you want to listen on Spotify I don't know if you like streaming that better or whatever or if you want to suggest someone that doesn't have an iPhone.

1561
01:04:33,120 --> 01:04:37,120
Yeah comment, email us, subscribe, all that good stuff.

1562
01:04:37,120 --> 01:04:45,120
We really are at least I am kind of like oh man like quite a few people are listening to this it makes me feel good.

1563
01:04:45,120 --> 01:04:46,120
I'm getting excited.

1564
01:04:46,120 --> 01:04:49,120
Yeah so thank you guys so much for your support we really love you guys.

1565
01:04:49,120 --> 01:04:53,120
Alright well we will see you in a few days I guess.

1566
01:04:53,120 --> 01:04:54,120
Love you bye.

1567
01:04:54,120 --> 01:05:20,120
Bye.