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UK.
UK. Alright. That sounded Australian.
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Scarlett Jinkensen was born in 2008.
Okay.
She was the youngest of four kiddos and Scarlett grew up having three older brothers.
Her mom was a school teacher, a homec teacher, and her dad owned his own business in the building and plastering industry.
I'm trying to do math. She's like 16.
This is a very recent case.
Yeah.
The family lived in a modest, semi-detached home in a Warrington, England, off a street called Gleblund.
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm. That was that sound.
It might be Gleblund, but it's G-L-E-B-E. Glebl.
Gleblund.
All seemed right with the family for the most of Scarlett's childhood.
However, by the time Scarlett hit middle school age, she began showing signs of aggressive behavior and combativeness.
She would cause trouble in school and would often be involved in regular discord and fights among other students.
You said this is middle school when she starts showing these signs?
Middle school age, yeah. I don't know what it would be called over there.
Oh, it's not primary school.
It's not primary school.
Secondary?
Secondary, yeah, maybe.
Yeah.
Let us know.
By age 13, Scarlett began experimenting with marijuana and would start to double in witchcraft and black magic.
Oh, escalated quickly.
Yeah, right.
I mean, for 13, I remember how I was.
It was like, ooh, dark stuff.
So cool.
The darkness.
Come to the dark side, we have cookies.
I shop at Hot Topic.
I'm goth.
With that little happy bunny thing.
Yeah.
She claimed that she once watched Sweeney Todd over 9,000 times in a row.
That's not possible.
Okay, Kristen Gilbert.
Yeah.
You would die.
That's not possible.
There's no way.
I don't know if she meant she watched it maybe several times a day over the course of many
weeks.
Yeah.
Not just like sat down with one of those like weird eyelid opener things and just watched
Sweeney Todd.
Right.
And then you first of all count that and second of all, like how long would that take?
I want to know.
Like okay with the exaggerations Kristen Gilbert.
Yeah, seriously.
She wore dark clothing and began obsessing over horror films.
And it was around this time that Scarlett would befriend a boy by the name of Eddie Radcliffe
at her school.
Radcliffe.
I like that.
Ratikliffe.
And the school that they were attending was Colcheth High School.
Eddie was sort of an outcast as well and the two would quickly identify with each other
on their interests and all things dark and spooky, macabre.
Macabre.
Eddie was diagnosed at an early age to be on the autism spectrum and although Eddie
seemed to adjust in his elementary years, Eddie would oftentimes become selectively mute
at home and in social situations.
That's a coping mechanism for something for sure.
I think so, yeah.
He just, yeah, selectively mute is what they said.
Like just, I don't feel like talking to you right now and I'm just not going to talk.
You can't make me talk.
Scarlett seemed to be one of the only people who could coax Eddie out of his shell.
Often the two would skip school and research some of their favorite serial killers.
Scarlett would write in journals on her love for serial killers like Richard Ramirez,
Ed Gein, and Jeffrey Dahmer.
Gross.
I know, but like what do we do?
I know, but we also research serial killers.
Yeah, that's true, but I don't like do it.
I was going to say for fun.
For funsies.
We do it for funsies.
Actually, we kind of do.
That is hard.
I don't know.
She wrote fun facts about each killer as if she were writing a small dating bio for
each.
That's weird.
For example, Richard Ramirez's bio included his name, nickname, which would be the Night
Stalker, date of birth, date of death, his MO or method of killing, where he operated
during his killings, a brief history of Ramirez's life, and some of her favorite quotes of Ramirez's.
Just like, oh, these are like killer quotes, bro.
And then like in the bet you didn't know section of the thing, it said, I have halitosis.
Did you get that?
Oh, I sent you that article today about what is it?
Was this a name?
Bad breath, bad breath rapist.
The bad breath rapist was apparently caught today after 16 years on the run.
What a title.
Fuck that guy.
The bad breath, yeah, good.
I'm glad they called you that.
I'm glad that they blasted your ass online for a while.
What an idiot.
Just brush your teeth, bro.
Just don't rape people.
Then you won't be known for your bad breath.
Yeah.
By age 15, Scarlett was known about school to ask others to participate in blood rituals
or small animal sacrifices.
Okay, we don't do that.
We don't do that.
Although it is unclear whether or not she followed through on these supposed rituals,
one thing is for sure, however, in late September 2022, Scarlett would bring edibles to school,
convincing a girl of just 13 years of age to consume the edibles under the guise that
they were harmless sweets.
That's not funny.
It's not funny.
I would be so mad.
Like as soon as you eat it, she's like, yeah, that's weird.
I would be so fucking pissed because I don't like drugs.
Well, then it's like, first of all, the amount of control you must need by doing this to
someone and then how out of control that girl must have felt.
Oh yeah, that's terrifying.
The girl had consumed so much of these edibles that the girl would eventually have to be
hospitalized.
Oh my God.
When Sam's word got around that Scarlett was the one who provided the edibles to the
young girl, Scarlett was kicked out of Colcheth.
Although initially the girl's parents were to press charges, they eventually dropped the
charges once they knew that Scarlett was removed from the campus.
Scarlett would then be enrolled in Birchwood High School.
However, Scarlett's former school, Colcheth, did not write a full report as to why Scarlett
was let go from their campus.
So Birchwood actually accepted Scarlett with open arms.
They were like, yeah, sure, bring her over.
Okay, she's harmless, right?
Clearly.
Transferring to Birchwood allowed her to maintain an even darker version of herself.
Scarlett would further represent herself as a witch who practiced dark magic and was
a full-blown Satanist.
Oh my gosh.
Scarlett would download apps that gained her access to the dark web, often watching
videos of people dying, being beheaded, torture, and suicides.
Oh my gosh, this is horrific.
She's like 14?
She went like, yeah, she went like hard into it.
I wonder where like that, I don't know, I wonder where it came from, you know?
It's almost like morbid curiosity, but like, that's too much.
It's a lot.
I have morbid curiosity and I've accidentally stumbled upon videos like that and it was
horrific and I cannot get it out of my mind.
She remained in constant contact with Eddie, reporting on her daily activities in her new
school.
The two had even begun plotting the death of several classmates that the two had targeted.
Oh great.
Although this would definitely become a concern to any adult who may come across it, at this
time it is not known that the threats were real or a fantasy for Scarlett and Eddie.
And although many classmates did report this to their parents and administration, nothing
was investigated or done about it.
Perfect.
Great.
We love when that happens.
We love ignorance when it comes to disorders.
We love when people will say, oh I just thought it was a prank, I thought they were joking.
Oh kids will be kids.
You don't joke about shit like that.
Scarlett and Eddie never seemed to be romantically involved, but they would often express that
they did share a deep connection and that they considered themselves to be soulmates
in a way.
Scarlett actually had a boyfriend who was much older and would often employ manipulation
tactics to get him to stay with her.
She even carved his name on her arms once on one occasion, claiming that this was proof
of her dedication to him.
There's something seriously wrong with this chick.
She needs to be evaluated.
At this point, like why hasn't she been evaluated?
We're the fucker parents.
Yeah, exactly.
I'm sorry, like I'm not saying that every parent is responsible for disorders or anything
like that, but there's like things happening here.
There's a lot of signs.
Like especially after her poisoning another child essentially, you would think that she
couldn't be around kids her own age without a full evaluation.
Yeah, I agree.
I would have immediately taken her.
Kids just don't do that.
I'm sorry.
And this is like recent too.
Like this isn't like the 30s, you know, it's not the 1930s.
Yeah, it's not.
But it's like 2020 or 2022.
But again, like, I don't know, you just, you never know the situation.
She could have been really good at hiding it and her parents just didn't know.
Yeah.
Eddie himself also had an obsession with a girl known only as A. Eddie would constantly
ask for advice on how to approach or flirt with A to which Scarlett would lend suggestions.
Constantly skipping school.
So wonder that Scarlett had any time to socialize or connect with other students and Scarlett
would be reprimanded on more than a few occasions for attendance as well.
However, Scarlett did choose to enroll in a course generally offered to teens that need
a little more of an unconventional learning environment.
These being inclusive courses or classrooms.
Inclusive courses or classrooms are defined by sonicview.com as quote, classrooms designed
so that students with special needs, disabilities or impairments can learn among peers who may
or may not have certain needs in age appropriate general education environments.
While this is the most common use, inclusive classrooms are evolving to make sure that
they are inclusive for different reasons as well, not just special education.
For example, inclusive classrooms may involve students with certain needs, but it is also
to be considered as students with different social and economic backgrounds, those who
speak minority languages have different religions as well as sexual orientations.
And making sure a classroom is truly inclusive is important for healthy and prosperous student
development.
End quote.
Dang.
That's pretty descriptive.
It is.
Given Scarlett's difficulties connecting with others and her overall lack of ability to
function in a typical learning environment, this type of learning style may have appealed
to her.
However, there may have been more sinister reasons behind her attending these environments.
It would be here that Scarlett would meet the person whose life she would change.
So it's not the change of course.
Brianna Jai was the same age as Scarlett and the two would meet in this inclusive environment.
Brianna was born November 7th, 2006 and was assigned male at birth, also known as AMAB.
From an early age, Brianna knew that she was different from other kids and she was eventually
diagnosed with ADHD and autism spectrum disorder.
Brianna also began officially transitioning with gender-affirming care around age 13 and
was living fully as female by age 14 and 20-20, so this is during the COVID pandemic as well,
which I'm sure helped her transition because you couldn't be in face-to-face learning.
Brianna had found the transition back into person-to-person schooling to be a difficult
one.
Brianna had troubles with depression and struggled with an unspecified eating disorder, probably
brought on by body dysmorphia.
That is my opinion, that is kind of what I read, but I feel like that's a comorbidity,
right?
You have body dysmorphia, sometimes one of the symptoms, I suppose, is developing an
eating disorder.
You're completely right.
I did an assignment recently in one of my courses about eating disorders and body dysmorphic
disorders and they do go hand-in-hand a lot of the time.
It's interesting.
It's sad, but it's interesting.
So Brianna had actually struggled with her ED so much that she had actually been hospitalized
for it.
In order to help cope, she did what most normal teams would do and turned to social media.
Brianna would create TikToks documenting her struggles as a trans youth and would often
feel supported by her commenters as well as her family, who also supported her 100% in
her transition.
Brianna also seemed to have gained a lot of confidence on the platform and a type of confidence
that she sometimes struggled to find within herself in the outside world.
But now back in a public school setting, the social anxiety would often times become too
much for her to bear.
Brianna would sneak down to the cafeteria on most days, grab her food, and return to the
inclusion building in order to eat her lunch alone.
Slowly by the fall of 2022, Brianna would come to find friendship in some of her classmates,
but one of them in particular being Scarlett Jinkinson.
Scarlett would quickly and almost forcibly become Brianna's friend.
Brianna went along with this friendship as it was nice to be included and Scarlett was
also outcasted by others as well.
But it was noticed by some classmates that the inclusion was more of an admiration from
Scarlett, although not an overly flirtatious one.
And this is around the same time that Eddie is now interested in this A person?
Yeah, so Scarlett and Eddie go to two separate schools.
Eddie likes A and Scarlett is B funding Brianna.
Right, I think Scarlett in my opinion is probably like, well shit, Eddie found someone
new to hang out with.
Like I gotta find someone.
Like she's gonna latch on to someone really quickly and be almost inappropriate as far
as her approach.
Well Scarlett does have her boyfriend too.
The guy that she was like writing, that she wrote his name in her arm.
They're still together.
Oh, for some reason I thought that was Eddie.
Earlier?
Oh no, no.
This is a different boyfriend, yeah.
They were essentially like, we aren't romantically involved with each other at all, but I think
it was like, it's kind of fully ideal, I feel like.
And so, yeah, Scarlett kind of has her boyfriend, her much older boyfriend that I think is like
almost college age and she's just like obsessed with him and has used manipulation tactics
to kind of keep him around, whether that be the threat of harming herself or something
like that.
Yeah.
Eddie likes A and yeah.
And we now know, unbeknownst to Brianna, that Scarlett is slowly becoming more and more
obsessed with her.
If not in a romantic sense, it was possibly obsession over her uniqueness and even possibly
her transness.
I think that mostly it's just Scarlett thinking that it adds to her to be friends with someone
who's trans.
Yeah.
And to really like, almost use Brianna to be like, this is how unique and different I
am because I'm friends with Brianna, you know?
Yeah, that's gross.
Which is gross.
Instead of just being friends with her because she's a nice person.
Scarlett would express her obsession to Eddie and the two would exchange transphobic remarks
about Brianna and eventually Scarlett and Eddie had added Brianna's name to their growing
list.
Ew, that's gross though.
She's befriending her and then now she's talking shit like behind her back.
Yeah, gross.
Scarlett wrote in December 2022, quote, I'm obsessed over someone I know but I don't have
feelings for them.
She's called Brianna.
I don't know how to explain.
Also, she has a dick, LOL, end quote.
Like, okay.
Like shut the fuck up.
Eddie replies, quote, is it a femboy or a tranny, end quote.
It is so fucking cringy.
I hate even saying that.
That's awful.
I'm gonna get out of here.
Oh god, I just leave.
Scarlett would often compare herself to Brianna's looks saying she felt gross or disgusting standing
next to Brianna.
Eddie agreed saying that Brianna looked, quote, prettier but it is a boy, end quote.
Like, then don't fucking talk to her.
Don't be fucking friends with her.
Why are you so concerned about this?
I just want to punch these guys in the face.
Fuck off.
Don't worry about her then if it's such a bother for you to be around her and, you know, next
to her.
I don't understand why it's any of their fucking business.
Yes, exactly.
Do you go around asking people what their genitals are like or anything?
No, nobody does that.
Nobody fucking does that.
Yeah, no, it's fucking gross.
It's fucking awful.
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In January of 2023, Brianna's mother Esther came home after Brianna was supposed to be
attending school.
When Esther entered the family home, she could hear someone in the bathroom upstairs throwing
up.
It was Brianna.
Unexpectedly, Brianna had become sick at school and was released due to an unidentified
illness.
Esther was suspicious of this as when she went to go check on Brianna, there appeared to be
something like grape skins in Brianna's vomit, which Esther recognized to be capsule parts
of gel tablets.
Brianna had dealt with depression and an eating disorder for some time and associated this
incident with either Brianna's ED or possibly even an attempted overdose.
After talking with her daughter, Brianna insisted that neither of these were the case.
Esther would believe her daughter and the two would chalk it up to some unexplained
illness.
Although Esther was still a little uneasy about the entire situation, just given her
daughter's past.
Yeah, in history and stuff.
I was just going to say that.
It's not out of the realm of possibilities that one of these two things could have been
the culprit.
Yeah.
It's got to be hard, like especially when you believe your child with such conviction.
Ugh.
Unknown to either.
Brianna's illness was a result of an attempted poisoning by Scarlet.
Although it is unclear how a mass amount of ibuprofen was administered to Brianna without
her knowledge.
Yeah, especially like the capsule.
Mm-hmm.
Scarlet seemingly confessed to this in a text that she sent to Eddie saying, quote, you
know that girl I mentioned Brianna?
I'm still trying to kill her and the easiest way is to pill overdose, end quote.
Like are you dumb?
I'm still trying to kill her, written down for the world to fucking see.
Today on I'm Trying to Kill Brianna.
Yeah, like ugh.
The next day Scarlet also texted Eddie, quote, Brianna is still ill.
Those tablets I gave her might slowly be killing her, end quote.
So one can, I guess, imagine that Brianna probably didn't go to school the next day
either.
Yeah.
Which is awful.
Like how can you do that to a person?
Again, that's another one of her MOs, right?
She's like poisoning fucking people.
Yeah, it's like her thing, her like control thing.
The conversations between Scarlet and Eddie intensify even further over the course of
the next month and became more and more graphic.
Scarlet would tell Eddie that she would have recurring dreams of her covered in a stabbing
victim's blood and hearing their screams, describing herself as quote, smiling while
holding a knife.
Okay.
And this Eddie's just like cool.
That's so cool.
Tell me more.
I'm not like 9-1-1 immediately or 9-9-9.
9-9-9.
I found a weed.
Yeah, he's like, oh, that's a really graphic dream there, isn't it?
Oh, that's a really graphic dream there, isn't it?
She's like, yep.
Are you from Manchester?
Yeah, I think it's a...
Where am I?
Is it from?
Oh, have you ever seen the kissing booth?
No.
Oh my gosh.
So long story short, the kissing booth, I'm sure some of the listeners have seen it.
The main character is Joey King and another guy I don't know if the main character is,
but they're presenting their idea to the student council about having a kissing booth for the
state fair or the carnival or whatever.
And one of the students is English and she starts talking and he goes, you have an accent.
It's like super quiet.
He's like, moving on.
That's it?
You have an accent.
That's the way he said it.
He just reminded me, are you from Manchester?
I'm from Manchester.
I originally got that from forgetting Sarah Marshall when Paul Rudd runs into Russell
Brandt for the first time and he's like, you sound like you're from London.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's what it is.
All of our listeners in the UK just know that we love you.
It's Europe in general.
Manchester.
I love a bee.
Where was I?
Yes.
So she's like, I'm having this recurring dream where I'm smiling, holding a knife,
covered in blood.
And he's like, cool.
Yeah, he's like, how can I get dreams like that?
After several of these dreams, Scarlett purchased a large hunting knife from a local shop.
Scarlett talks of stabbing Brianna to death in text exchange, saying she wants to gouge
out her pretty eyes and take one as a trophy and maybe even a couple of teeth.
But this has to be something she's witnessed on the web.
Yeah, that's true.
There's no way that you go from, oh, I'm going to slip you a roofie or whatever, and
then, oh, I'm going to gouge out your eyeballs and do all this.
There's no way she hasn't been researching this.
It's graphic enough to where, like you said, she was clearly exposed to that or it's just
what is the creepiest, grossest, most graphic thing I can see to get a reaction out of Eddie.
Yeah, like the most heinous thing I can think of.
And that's why I think it's fallahyadoo.
Yeah.
I really do.
And he's like, he's just cool with it?
He's like, yeah, you should do that?
Oh yeah.
Or he's like, oh, haha, like you think she's joking?
No, he's like, he's it on it.
She begins to call Eddie around this time her Tesco John Wick, implying that he is her
hitman.
Oh.
Because John Wick's like a hitman.
Yeah.
Scarlett would ask Eddie to help her kill Brianna since, quote, I've been helping you
with A, end quote.
I'm giving you dating advice, therefore you must help me kill someone.
Yeah, that's quid pro quo, duh.
That checks the one.
Not doing this pro bono here.
That shit.
Ugh.
Eddie responds in kind, stating yes, and that, quote, really all I want to see is what
dick size it had, end quote.
Oh my god.
I think this guy is obsessed with genitals.
Right.
But like he's, I think another motive for him is he's transphobic and so he's like,
oh fuck it, like I'll help you kill this person because they're trans.
Right.
Like it would be easier because they're trans or whatever.
Because they're trans.
Oh my god.
Eddie also stated, quote, I want to see if it will scream like a man or a girl, end quote.
Like he's the one that's obsessed with her transness.
It's, it, no, I don't even know what to say.
Like that's so fucking nice.
I have a lack of words.
On Saturday, February 11th, 2023, everybody knows when we pull out a date, Brianna was
enjoying her date off in the early afternoon before texting her mother Esther that she would
be going out for the day.
When asking her daughter where she was planning on heading and with whom, Esther was surprised
to learn that Brianna planned on taking a bus up to the Kulcheth area, which is about
a 15 minute bus ride to meet up with Scarlett.
Though Esther knew of Scarlett, the two had never hung out outside of school before as
long as Esther had known.
Furthermore, Esther found it odd that Brianna, who was so socially reserved, would choose
to ride a bus some 15 minutes away from the home.
But Esther thought to herself, maybe this is Brianna coming out of her shell a little,
and maybe if Scarlett was the one to help her get out of the house, that maybe this
is a friendship worth making leaps for.
Esther was able to watch her daughter leave the home in the afternoon through the camera
doorbell installed on the outside of the home.
Brianna, dolled up for the day, walks to the family front door, strolls down the walkway,
through the garden gate, and down the street to the bus stop.
This will be the last time her mother would see her.
Brianna can then be seen on CCTV on the bus, then arriving at the bus stop, where she is
then met by Scarlett and a boy she's never met before, Eddie Radkilliff.
An hour later, a married couple, Andrew and Catherine, were walking their two dogs when
they came across a strange sight.
Two teens lie ahead in the walking trail, one been down, almost all the way to the ground.
At first, the couple believed they were witnessing a teen reaching down to maybe Leisha's dog,
but as they approached, the teen rose up and the two teens began walking away from the area
in a calm manner.
The couple then realized there was a young girl laying in the trailway.
They rushed over to assist the girl and immediately call 999 when they spot the girl covered in
blood.
Although we don't have the 999 recording, we do have an article by BBC which documented
what was heard later in court.
Quote, in the recording, the dog walker was heard to be breathing heavily and in clear
distress.
She told the operator somebody was very hurt after being attacked and that she had, quote,
seen some of the attackers run away from the body, end quote.
She said Breanna was, quote, bleeding heavily, end quote, and had, quote, blood on her legs
and on her back, end quote.
Quote, we thought it was a dummy at first.
I don't want to touch her either.
I don't know if she's alive.
She was adding, quote, it's an absolute mess, end quote.
She then told the operator her husband would wait with Breanna and she would go to the
car park to direct the emergency services.
The operator then asked the caller if she believed Breanna had been hit.
She said, quote, I think she's been attacked.
She may have been stabbed, end quote.
She replied, quote, is she breathing, end quote, the operator asked.
Quote, no, I don't think so, end quote, she replied.
Quote, I can't see her face.
It's covered in blood, end quote.
She said Breanna was, quote, dressed like a teenager, end quote.
Before adding, quote, are they coming quickly?
It's a nightmare, end quote.
The operator then asked about Breanna's breathing and asked, quote, can you ask your husband
to put pressure on the wound, end quote.
Clearly distressed, the caller replied, quote, I don't think there's anything you can do
for her.
Breanna had been stabbed 28 times in the head, neck, and chest.
She was pronounced dead at 4.02 p.m.
End quote.
Jesus Christ.
Police were immediately suspicious of Scarlett as Esther had been told by Breanna that she
was to meet up with Scarlett in the area that Breanna was found.
A trail of video footage found that Breanna had met up with Scarlett in another teen at
a bus stop who was quickly identified as Eddie Radcliffe.
By the next day, both Scarlett and Eddie were taken into custody, like literally the next
day.
Don't ask this.
Let me see your phones.
Yeah, right.
A search warrant was issued for both of their homes and here detectives found a mountain
of evidence, bloody clothing, a hunting knife, and Scarlett's journal logging information
about her serial killer idols.
One entry was particularly unnerving, her own entry.
Uh-uh.
No, fuck, thank you.
It read Saturday 11th of February 2023, victim Breanna Jai, plan, meet Eddie at Wooden Post
1PM, walk down to library bus stop, wait until Breanna gets off bus, then the three of us
walk to linear park, go to the pipe slash tunnel area, I say code word to Eddie.
He stabs her in the back, I stab her in the stomach, Eddie drags body into the area, we
both cover up area with logs, etc.
That didn't fucking work out.
She's a genius.
Yeah.
I've been texting about this for months, puts it in her own little serial killer journal.
She clearly thought everything through.
Totally.
By the 15th, just four days later, both Scarlett Jenkinson and Eddie Radcliffe were charged
with first degree murder of Breanna.
Breanna had been lured into the woods after Scarlett told her that the three were going
to meet up with a weed dealer.
Breanna even texted another friend stating, quote, Scarlett is so weird, she's pretending
she has a drug dealer, end quote.
So Breanna knew that Scarlett was lying or covering something up while it was happening.
Oh my gosh.
It's a margrille.
After not only that, but it places her with Scarlett.
Moments before this were to happen.
I know, maybe that's why she sent the text.
After walking away from the main area of the trails and realizing that they were alone,
Eddie and Scarlett would simultaneously attack Breanna.
Eddie stabbing her in the back while Scarlett stabbed from the front.
In what was later described as a stabbing frenzy.
Scarlett would callously text Eddie later that night that she found the stabbing to
be arousing.
Fuck off, Carlify Tucker.
Right.
That's what it's going to say.
Pickax much?
That's so gross.
And then these two fuckers find each other.
And it's not like she's texting this to someone that's going to do the responsible thing and
the moral thing and turn her in and try to get help for her.
It's like, no, we'll just fucking agree on this disgusting plan.
Yeah.
Both Scarlett and Eddie blamed the other participant for encouraging them to commit the crime.
Because of course they did.
Because they're fucking children.
What can be said is that if neither of them had met, Breanna may still be alive.
So either way, they're both responsible.
Both would attend trial, although their names were to remain anonymous from the press as
they were minors when the crime was committed.
Don't commit adult crime if you don't want your name out there.
If you can't do the adult time.
That's what I thought you were going to say.
No.
Don't do the adult crime.
You can't do the adult time.
The trial would last just one month and deliberations lasted just four hours.
Jinkensen and Ratcliffe were found guilty of committing first degree murder.
Jinkensen being sentenced to life with parole after 22 years.
And Ratcliffe being sentenced to life with parole after 20 years.
But again, they're like, that would be like they're in their 30s.
Yeah.
Great.
Can't wait.
Neither defendant received any additional charges regarding their text messages discussing
Brianna's transgenderness.
The court ultimately decided that the murder was not a hate crime, which I think is bullshit.
I disagree.
I mean, literally they talk about it in such a disgusting and like careless, non-compassionate,
I don't even know the words.
Just in it's just disgusting.
And the fact that they are just like, oh no, clearly it has nothing to do with her being
trans.
No, clearly it does.
It does.
Clearly it fucking does.
Like that just irks me.
And for her to be like 16, Brianna was 16.
She had her whole life to like understand who she is and like live her authentic self
like as a young woman and have the rest of her life to only be like, you know.
This on the eve of Pride Month too.
That's another reason why I tried to tackle this one.
After the trial's conclusion, both of Brianna's killers were publicly named.
Esther, Brianna's mother, said that the hardest thing for her and the rest of the family to
come to terms with was, finding out that one of the people who had been charged for her
murder was someone we believed to be her friend.
Someone that we trusted.
Someone that I was so happy that she had.
Fearing that my child had been so lonely, not knowing that this person had been planning
to not only cause harm, but to take the life of my precious child.
And quote.
Oh, heaps.
I know, I just got the heaps too.
Scarlett Jenkins and family released a statement saying quote, all of our thoughts are with
Brianna and her family.
The last 12 months have been beyond our worst nightmares as we've come to realize the brutal
truth of Scarlett's actions.
We agree with the jury's verdict, the judge's sentence and the decision to name the culprits.
End quote.
Like they were like, nope.
Blast her.
Blast her for what she did.
Get her name out in the press.
I don't disagree with that, but I also want to know like the dynamic of the household,
like why she didn't get help.
Was she just that good at hiding it?
Or was it like a just turn a blind eye kind of thing?
I don't know.
Is it like, oh, this is like an angsty teen?
I mean, I don't know.
Like it's, you know, with the journals and stuff like that, like what parent is going
to go through every journal?
Right.
And I'm not blaming them at all.
I'm just saying like, I just want to know like what like, and that, that, what my point
is is that there's a reason we do this podcast.
And one of the biggest reasons is to educate people on the signs so that you can get someone
help before something like this happens.
So I guess where I'm coming from is like, I wish that maybe the parents were more educated
on the signs.
Again, I don't know what they knew or didn't know.
I'm not blaming anybody besides Charlotte's.
And I think like part of it is, is because it is a UK case.
I, you know, correct me if I'm wrong listeners, but especially as it pertains to minors, a
lot, a lot of the trial, I could not find, you know, me, I'm a trial person.
Like I want to listen to the whole trial, know every detail.
And maybe there were things that were revealed, right, that were done or weren't done during
the trial.
And we just don't know.
That's true.
As far as parent participation.
After the killers were convicted, Brianna's mother Esther Jai called for, quote, empathy
and compassion and quote, for their families as quote, they too have lost lost a child
and quote, and quote, must live the rest of their lives knowing what their child has done
and quote.
Yeah, I mean, it's difficult in and of itself.
The head teacher, Miss Mills from Birchwood said in an interview by the Guardian, quote,
hindsight is a wonderful thing.
Obviously, if I can go back in time knowing what I know now, then I would not want Scarlett
to come to our school at all.
But unfortunately, there was absolutely no indication at all in any of her previous behaviors
or behaviors when she was at this school that would indicate that she was capable of any
way of what she did and quote.
Had teacher mill said that although Scarlett's attendance was dropping, the girl always completed
her tasks and was mostly quiet and reserved.
Scarlett was notified just a few days before Brianna's murder that she would actually return
to her old school and cult, cult, cult, cult, cult, cult chef.
So this is because her attendance was so poor.
So I don't know if that's also a mitigating factor.
Like was she like, now's my chance.
Or like this is my last opportunity.
Or like I don't want to go back there.
Yeah.
I don't know.
Jinkensen is being held at Adalbeck Secure Children's Home in Leves and Ratcliffe is
being held at Barton Moss in Salford until their 18th birthdays, after which they could
be spending time with some of Britain's more notorious killers, including infamous Joanna
Dennehy and Rose West of all people.
Yeah, we just tackled her.
There's also Hannah Bosner as well, who was charged in the stabbing of a 13 year old as
well.
So they have that to look forward to.
For at least more than half of their sentence.
That's true.
So well, that is the story of Scarlett Jinkensen and Homie Ratcliffe.
Homie Ratcliffe.
Dang, yeah, that was wild.
I haven't heard of that one.
It's so recent.
I'm surprised that I hadn't.
It is.
It's so recent, but definitely.
Sorry.
We said definitely at the same time.
Definitely.
It's hard to go out to Breonna Jai's family.
It is such a recent case that not that you will ever stop mourning for Breonna, but
it's so fresh.
Right.
Yeah, definitely.
And these cases are so hard to cover.
Even though, I feel like sometimes it's almost a little bit easier to cover a case that happened
a long time ago because there's not that attachment because it happened a long time
ago.
But when you tackle something that's just recent, it's like, I feel like it hits kind
of different.
Yeah.
Although all of the victims, of course, need to be remembered and they deserve that.
Yeah.
But yeah, dang.
Yeah, pretty intense.
But this on the eve of Pride Month, so just remember.
The eve eve.
Yeah, the eve eve.
So June is Pride Month, you all.
Show your love, show your supports.
Just be fucking nice.
Just mind your fucking business and be nice.
Be you, unless you're a jerk, then be nice.
There you go.
Anything else?
That's it.
Okay, we will see you guys with another case next week and look out for that Patreon case
that should be coming out tomorrow or the next day, I think.
Yeah.
After you're hearing this.
Okay.
All right.
Love you.
Bye.
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