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Hello!

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Welcome back to another episode of Diagnosia Killer, the mental breakdown.

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I'm Kenna, and I'm Koala.

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How's it going?

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You know, it's fine.

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We always say that.

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Very busy day.

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It's been a day.

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Yeah.

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It has been a day.

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Happy Eclipse Day.

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Yeah, absolutely.

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It was frickin' wild.

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We had the privilege of being in the area where the eclipse was complete for maybe two minutes,

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and it got pretty dark.

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It was really wild.

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Unfortunately, there was a lot of cloud coverage where we are, so we didn't really get to see

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it fully, but we still got the effects of it.

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That was just working, so.

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Yeah, you were inside.

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Well, I sent you a picture.

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You did, and it was a really pretty picture.

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Yeah, it was really weird.

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All the birds stopped chirping, like all at once.

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Ew.

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It's like, oh, it's time for bed.

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Goodnight.

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They're just like, ha!

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Yeah, exactly.

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Okay, are you ready to do this mental breakdown?

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Yeah.

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Okay, so today we are going to be talking about the different types of mania.

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Manias, if you will.

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Content warning, this episode contains conversation including severe mental health symptoms, talk

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of suicidal thoughts or actions, and manic symptoms.

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So yes, different types of manias.

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So we're going to just go through.

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There's just a couple that are really common.

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There's a bunch that exist, but a couple that are very common that we'll talk about today.

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Do just want to give a really quick shout out to choosingtherapy.com.

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Most of the information in this episode is provided by a Dr. Matt Glauak.

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He's a PhD and a licensed clinical professional counselor.

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He wrote the articles that I referenced when I made this research.

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So the DSM-5 defines mania as being a distant period of abnormally and persistently elevated,

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expansive, or irritable mood with persistent goal-driven activity or energy.

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Mania is often a symptom of bipolar disorder, but it is not exclusive to this diagnosis.

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And I noticed as I was doing this research, we haven't even done bipolar disorder as a

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mental breakdown.

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What?

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How have we not done that yet?

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That's like part of the reason we do the pod kind of.

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It's that specific diagnosis.

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Maybe we unintentionally avoided it.

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Maybe that's what we're thinking about.

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Maybe that's what it is.

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It's subconscious.

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It's a coping mechanism.

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So while mania is very prevalent in bipolar disorder, it can also commonly be seen in

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postpartum psychosis, schizoaffective disorder, and seasonal affective disorder, or SAD, as

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well as others.

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The onset of mania is usually described by people who experience it as a breath of fresh

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air of sorts as compared to recurrent periods of severe depression, suicidal ideation, or

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social withdrawal.

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The condition can vary from person to person with some people experiencing comorbid symptoms

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during their mania as well.

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These symptoms can include but are not limited to psychosis, hallucinations, delusions, euphoria,

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intense moods, and hyperactivity.

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Yeah, a lot of things.

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As a result of mania, some people may also make rash financial decisions, engage in dangerous

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substance abuse or dangerous behavior in general, or engage in other types of self-destructive

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behavior.

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There are hundreds of different types of manias, like I said earlier, similarly to how there

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are hundreds of different types of phobias, but there are, again, some that are very common.

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So the first type that we're going to talk about is called euphoric mania.

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Are we top 100ing this?

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No, not really, because there's only like four.

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There we go.

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We're going to do it anyways.

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Euphoric mania is a condition that is described as incredible, beautiful, fantastic, expansive,

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and or unbelievable by the people who have experienced it.

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So it's like shrooms?

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Or like, yeah.

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Just a really, really feel good feeling.

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This type of mania is typically welcomed by the person experiencing it at its onset, and

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since it is such a good feeling, it can be hard to determine if it is mania or simply

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a person admiring life.

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Interesting.

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Right.

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It's like, are you just in a really good mood or are you like having a breakdown?

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No, the colors are brighter and the air tastes sweeter.

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This type of mania is also commonly called classical mania and can include other symptoms

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such as hypersexuality, a feeling of invincibility, and an extreme feeling of just energy in general.

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So another common type of mania is dysphoric mania, and this is described as a combination

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of mania with agitated depression.

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So it's a little bit of both here.

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People experiencing this type of mania often describe it as if they are coming out of their

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skin or their mind, and it's also been described as feeling at war with one's body.

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That's so shitty.

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I don't like that.

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Along with these feelings, this type of mania can include depressive or even suicidal thoughts.

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This type of mania is difficult to handle due to the fact that it's part mania and part

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depression, so managing the symptoms is a little trickier.

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I know that you've already said that mania is a comorbidity or a symptom of bipolar disorder.

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So do you think that there's some...

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I mean, you can answer my question later if you want, but is...

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What am I trying to say?

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Are there more specific manias that are geared towards someone with bipolar disorder or do

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Is it not mutually exclusive is what I'm asking?

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So essentially any of these types of manias can be seen with someone with bipolar disorder,

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I don't remember which one is which, bipolar type one or type two, but if you have the depressive

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type, you're more likely to see this type where it's mixture of mania and depression.

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If you have the manic type, it's probably more of the euphoric mania because you're more

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manic than depressed.

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And then on the other one, you're more depressed than manic.

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But I think...

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I don't think they're interchangeable or like, yeah, just set with one another.

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I think that they can all kind of occur.

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Because like if something's organic, it's already non-GMO.

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But something that's non-GMO doesn't necessarily have to be organic.

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That's a good way to put it.

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No, I think that they're all kind of interchangeable.

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So the next one is called psychotic mania.

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And this is another very commonly seen type.

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This is a type of manic condition in which one experiences delusions or hallucinations

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while manic.

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So like you were asking earlier, I feel personally that this would be more connected to maybe

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a schizoactive disorder rather than bipolar disorder because it does come with the hallucinations

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and delusions.

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Again, this can be extremely difficult to handle, especially as a person witnessing

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the mania.

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As the person that is experiencing it may not even be aware of what's reality and what's

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not.

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So how are you going to explain it then that this is manic symptom?

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Along with hallucinations and delusions, psychotic mania may come with abnormally elevated or

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extreme changes in mood.

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When someone is experiencing psychotic mania, it usually occurs during the most severe part

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of the manic episode, but it actually goes away as quickly as the episode does.

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So someone could be experiencing manic symptoms and then at the most severe part of that,

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that's when the psychotic manic symptoms come in, but they both end at the same time.

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That makes sense.

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So it's like all part of one episode, if you will?

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Yes, I think so.

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More experience.

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Lastly, hypomania is very common.

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Hypomania is similar to mania, but to a lesser extent of intensity.

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Again, this one can be difficult to determine because it can't very easily be seen that

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the person's experience isn't just experiencing it, excuse me, isn't just in a good mood.

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You know, it's like, oh, you're usually in a bad mood.

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You seem like you're in a better mood today, but it's not like, wow, like full blown mania.

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So it's really hard to tell.

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Also this type of mania is known to last for a shorter period of time as a full blown

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manic episode.

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So even more difficult to tell because it's like, it's not lasting all day.

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It may last for a few hours.

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So someone that might have these reoccurring might not even get a diagnosis?

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So how do you spot a manic episode?

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Although manic episodes may seem like they occur suddenly from an outside perspective,

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there are various signs that suggest a manic episode is in the works.

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According to the National Alliance on Mental Illness, I always refer to them so I wanted

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to shout them out.

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Some of the signs of a manic episode include hypersensitivity to stimuli, the inability

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to focus, unrealistic confidence or delusions of grandeur like we've said before, the inability

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to listen to other people, insomnia, spending money beyond what one can afford, obsessing

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over things and generally just not taking care of oneself.

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A lot of things and that's also tricky because a lot of those things can be caused by other

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mental disorders and it's not necessarily manic, it's just a symptom of their disorder.

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Of course these symptoms will look differently in children, teens, adults and even seniors

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so it's important to pay attention to signs that suggest the person who is showing symptoms

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is truly in a manic episode.

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Although bipolar disorder is not usually diagnosed until late adolescence, some patients may

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not be diagnosed at all like you were saying.

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This is due to the fact that some people can sometimes show signs of mania in their early

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years and it might simply be pushed aside as just part of their personality.

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Like an overactive kid or something.

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Unfortunately, when this condition becomes left undiagnosed and therefore untreated,

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it can cause one to internalize and have trouble functioning in daily life.

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So I said earlier that mania can be a symptom of different types of mental health disorders

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so the first one that we talked about was bipolar disorder.

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Many people with bipolar disorder also struggle with substance abuse.

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When a manic episode begins and someone with bipolar disorder, it will become a little

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more obvious especially if they have the depressive type.

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A person who is usually depressed suddenly showing signs of hope and pure happiness is

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typically a sign of mania.

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However, this can quickly turn into one being more comfortable with substance use and they

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may begin to use it more because they're feeling good, you know, oh I can drink more

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tonight because I'm feeling good.

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And either, yeah, makes you feel good or sometimes suppresses the depression or yeah,

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those low feelings or vice versa.

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People with bipolar disorder having a manic episode may also take themselves off of their

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medication or take it upon themselves to leave therapy thinking that they no longer require

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it.

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How do we not cover bipolar disorder?

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I know I'm telling you, like we have a firsthand account of this.

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Yeah, and what's interesting is when we had mom on the DAK Live, she even talked about

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that ebb and flow when it came to medication with her sister.

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Definitely.

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Of course, this is not the case and it is important for people with bipolar disorder

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to continue their meds and their treatment even when they're feeling great.

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People who experience mania along with schizoaffective disorder typically experience heightened awareness

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around their hallucinations and delusions.

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They will typically even share more information about their hallucinations or delusions and

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they'll typically talk about it out loud more like to you.

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Oh, do you see that guy or you know, things like that might not be that exact verb.

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But they're more open about it when they're experiencing mania.

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It's like, you know, maybe some people seem a little like, you know, with like conspiracy

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theories and stuff.

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Exactly.

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Yeah, that is a fault I do all over again.

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Yeah, a fault I do.

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Hallucinations and delusions can of course increase in intensity in patients with schizoaffective

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disorders.

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When it comes to patients with substance use disorder, they may experience elevated self-confidence

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during their manic episodes.

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If certain drug use increases such as uppers like methamphetamine, one could lose sleep

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causing other symptoms to arise such as unclear thinking, poor self-care and engaging and

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risky behaviors.

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Yeah, especially if you're already experiencing those, I would say like side effects or symptoms.

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I forget which one is which because you see one and then the other occurs internally,

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right?

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Yeah.

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And so I guess side effects would be internal and symptoms.

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Correct me if I'm wrong listeners, but yeah, so you would have already experienced those

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things because of the mental disorder that you already have.

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Then you're experiencing the mania.

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Then on top of it, you have the drug use.

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Yeah, the drug themselves.

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And it's just, yeah, all compounds.

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But what's interesting is that you think that in a way, subconsciously or otherwise,

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that you're medicating yourself and that it's helping.

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Another disorder, like I mentioned earlier, that typically comes with mania is Seasonal

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Affective Disorder or SAD.

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When the poor weather that causes the depression changes, it can cause manic episodes to prevent

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themselves in patients with SAD.

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This may cause patients to engage in risky behaviors, substance abuse and other things

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that may be dangerous or unhealthy for them.

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So what are some symptoms that mania is happening?

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We just saw signs leading up to it, but if those signs are missed, it may be time to

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start to look for symptoms of the mania.

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Oh, so there are signs and symptoms.

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Not side effects.

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Additionally, if you think you may be experiencing a manic episode, these are good things to look

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for internally as well, especially because some of these things you would not be able

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to see from an outside perspective.

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That being said, these include delusions or hallucinations, talking a lot or speaking

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too loudly, mostly when it's out of character for the person.

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I was on break earlier today and one of my coworkers walked past me, but I didn't know

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she was in the other room and I could have sworn that I was talking out loud to myself

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about my salad.

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She walked behind me and I was like, how long have you been there?

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She's like, oh, I just been there.

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I was like, oh, okay, was I talking to myself?

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She goes, no.

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And I said, oh, okay, I could have sworn I was talking to myself.

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She goes, oh, that happens to me all the time.

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And I was like, okay.

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I talk to myself all the time.

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So sorry.

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It must be when you said, like you said, out of character for that person.

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Yeah, like I talk a lot, but that's a very in character for me.

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Yeah.

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So it wouldn't be a manic symptom in my personality.

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Okay.

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Moving forward, hostility, aggression, becoming easily distracted, hypersexuality, racing

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or fleeting thoughts, sudden changes in style or clothing choice, thoughts of suicide and

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obsession of anything specific.

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But I thought that the sudden change in clothing is interesting.

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That's me.

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It's like make a giant style change.

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Well, yeah, I do fluctuate between wearing jeans and a T-shirt or jeans and a tank top

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to wearing like dresses and skirts and stuff.

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But I think it's more of a seasonal thing.

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Yeah.

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And I do that too.

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No, I think that it would be like concerning if you all of a sudden started wearing like

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a bunch of camo.

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Like that would be concerning.

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That's a major change.

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That is so weird.

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I hate camo.

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I own a lot of camo.

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I hate camo.

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So what causes mania?

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There are many different things that can cause mania to present itself and not all of them

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have to do with mental illness.

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Other common causes and triggers of mania include but are not limited to brain trauma, some

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types of tumors, dementia, lupus, certain medications, drug or alcohol abuse, strokes,

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acute stress, hypothyroidism, financial stress and others.

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So a lot of things you don't have to be mentally able to experience mania.

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Just checking off lists and boxes.

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If someone is experiencing what they think may be signs or symptoms of mania, it's best

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to talk to a mental health professional to get screened properly.

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Psychiatrists, neuropsychologists and others are professionals who can evaluate someone

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to determine their mental state.

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However, since mania is most commonly a symptom of mental health disorders, it is likely to

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be diagnosed alongside a mental health condition.

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Manic episodes can actually be diagnosed on their own as well.

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Like if you have, let's say, a stroke and then you have a manic episode from that, you're

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not going to get diagnosed with bipolar disorder, you know, you're just going to get diagnosed

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with a manic episode.

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So this is straight out of the DSM-5.

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Symptom criteria for a manic episode diagnosis includes, one, a distinct period of abnormally

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and persistently elevated, expansive or irritable mood.

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Two, abnormally persistent, increased goal-directed activity or energy.

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And three, both must last for at least one week and be present most of the day, nearly

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every day or for any duration if hospitalization is needed.

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I can't even imagine having mania that often.

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Oh yeah, that's gotta be very, very hard on your body.

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It's gotta be difficult.

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On top of this, three or more of the following symptoms must also be present and represent

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a noticeable change from usual behavior.

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These include inflated self-esteem or grandiosity, decreased need for sleep, more talkative than

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usual or pressured to keep talking, flight of ideas or subjective experience that thoughts

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are racing, distractibility, increase in goal-directed activity or psychomotor agitation, and lastly,

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excessive involvement in activities that have a high potential for painful consequences.

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So treatment for mania can vary from person to person, but the best way to stop a manic

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episode is to begin with acknowledging its existence.

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Most diagnoses of mania are pervasive, meaning they are treatable but not curable, so a person

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will most likely need treatment for the remainder of their lives with this type of diagnosis.

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Common types of therapy that are used to help treat symptoms of mania include cognitive

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behavioral therapy, dialectical behavioral therapy, family therapy, interpersonal therapy,

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and social rhythm therapy.

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If you want to deep dive on those, go listen to our most recent mental breakdown, because

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I literally broke all those down.

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On top of therapy, medication is commonly prescribed for mania.

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A medication regimen will vary depending on severity, but standard medication for mania

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typically include antipsychotics, such as Abilify, I'm gonna do it again where I make

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myself say all these words.

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Abilify, Latuta, Respertol, Cerroquel, Vreiler, and Zeprexa.

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Standard stabilizers such as Lithium, Tegretol, Depakene, Depakote, and Lamisotol, and Anticonvulsants,

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including some listed above, they're the same ones, as well as Benzodiazepine, such as Xanax,

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Cologna Pin, and Valium.

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I can say all those really.

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So these all may be prescribed just depending again on the situation.

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On top of all of these things, lifestyle changes are also encouraged for patients experiencing

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mania.

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These include but are not limited to exercise, breathing techniques, meditation, positive

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self-talk, changes in diets, proper sleep, journaling, medication and treatment compliance,

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safety and crisis planning, familial and other social support, support groups, and avoidance

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of substance abuse.

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So just for grins, I wrote out some types of mania that are common among killers, since

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we do talk about killers a lot, obviously.

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So the first one is egomania, which is the obsession of oneself.

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So that could be like a narcissistic trait, and then people, obviously we see a lot of

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narcissists on our list.

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Yeah, egotistical, yeah.

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Erotomania, which is obsession with sexual desire from others, or sexual attraction from

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strangers, which again may cause a homicide to occur.

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General hypermania could make sense, just hypermanic in general.

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Kleptomania, which we know to be an obsession with stealing, however, it could lead to a

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homicide if one is desperate enough.

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We actually had a carjacking that turned homicide happen here yesterday, right down the street

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from us, 13-year-old kid with the perpetrator.

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So it can absolutely happen if you're really desirable to steal something and then someone

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is in your way.

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Yeah, I think just to kind of piggyback on what you're saying, it doesn't necessarily

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mean objects.

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Either it could mean people.

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That's true.

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If you steal or take something, someone, keep something of someone's.

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That's true, yeah.

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So we see that sometimes in cases where people might keep a souvenir or a trophy, God forbid,

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part of the body, you know?

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Micromania is obsession with self-deprecation, while mythomania is obsession with lying.

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Again, these are all not directly related to killing, but it could have something to

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do with it.

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Mythomania?

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Yeah, not my sense.

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Necromania is obsession with being sexual with dead bodies, similar to necrophilia.

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Plutomania is being obsessed with money or wealth that could also lead to a homicide

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taking place.

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Pyromania, of course, is the obsession with fire or starting fires.

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Satiromania is the excessive, often uncontrollable, sexual desire specifically in men, and that

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could also lead to homicide.

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And just one that I wanted to pepper it in because I think it's funny, and it's actually

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a good real word, is called betelmania, and it's the obsession with the beetles, like

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the band.

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Yeah, betelmania, that was a whole thing.

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But it's a thing online, like you can get a whole definition and everything.

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They called it the British invasion, but yeah, betelmania.

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Betelmania, that's funny.

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So just lastly, we may have already mentioned some of these people in previous episodes,

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but I do have some celebrities that have been open about their bipolar disorder diagnoses.

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Although we might not have mentioned it, we haven't done an episode on that.

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Shame on us.

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I know.

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So bad.

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The first one is Kanye West, and I found this out while I was doing research.

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Apparently, he changed his name to Yi recently.

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He's Yi, artist formerly known as Kanye.

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Got it.

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Okay, so Yi was diagnosed with bipolar disorder in 2016, and his behavior has commonly been

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talked about in the media as being that of mania.

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Yi would comment publicly on this, stating, quote, it's cheap and dismissive to say I'm

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off my meds anytime I speak up, end quote.

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He has also described being bipolar as his quote, superpower, and even said that he's

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glad his mother did not fully medicate him from an early age because he, quote, might

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have never been Yi, end quote.

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Well, word of the wise.

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I mean, I'm just kidding.

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In my opinion, of course, this is only my opinion, that someone I feel like is a case

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where someone hasn't had the help that they needed.

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Yeah, of course.

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And instead is surrounded by people that are yes men.

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And they're encouraging.

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Because they're employed by him, to be honest.

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They're employed by him, his security, and whatever else is going on there.

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So they're all yes men, there's not really someone that's unfortunately going to be willing

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to stand up, speak up for him.

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Of course.

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Going through these symptoms.

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Yeah, I agree.

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And it's definitely got to be hard to be in the public eye and be so publicly sick.

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And then having half the people probably say, you're crazy or whatever, or other half people

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being like, hell yeah, you do you.

481
00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:28,880
There's probably not a lot of people that are like, hey, can I evaluate you?

482
00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:29,880
Yeah.

483
00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:33,000
I think you mean some space or some time?

484
00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:34,000
Yeah.

485
00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:39,840
I'm sure, especially with the mania symptoms that you've listed off, him being very, very

486
00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:43,720
busy and doing things all the time, probably don't allow him that moment.

487
00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:44,720
For sure.

488
00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:48,760
He should just breathe and really evaluate himself, let alone someone else.

489
00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:53,680
And when he does have manic symptoms, people are like, well, that's just conia or whatever.

490
00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:56,520
So number two is actually Selena Gomez.

491
00:26:56,520 --> 00:27:00,880
She was diagnosed in 2018 and she stated that she never knew she was struggling with bipolar

492
00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:03,480
disorder until she was diagnosed.

493
00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:07,680
She stated, quote, I think when I started hitting my early 20s is when I started to feel like

494
00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:12,200
I was not in control of what I was feeling, whether that was really great or really bad.

495
00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:13,640
And quote.

496
00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:15,640
Number three is Mariah Carey.

497
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:20,320
Mariah stated that she suffered with bipolar disorder and silence for many years because

498
00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:23,920
she did not want to believe that she was struggling with the disorder.

499
00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:28,640
She stated, quote, until recently I lived in denial and isolation and in constant fear

500
00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:30,240
someone would expose me.

501
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:32,280
I simply couldn't do that anymore.

502
00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:36,480
I saw and received treatment and got back to doing what I love, writing songs and making

503
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:37,480
music, end quote.

504
00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:38,480
Good for her.

505
00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:39,480
I think so too.

506
00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:40,480
She was on the struggle bus for a little bit.

507
00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:41,480
Yeah, for sure.

508
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:42,480
I mean to say that lightly.

509
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:45,120
I'm just saying, you know, she was out of the public eye for a long time.

510
00:27:45,120 --> 00:27:47,160
Her and Nick Cannon going through all that stuff.

511
00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:52,080
A friend of mine met her once at a resort rather that he was working at and he said that she

512
00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:55,080
smells really nice and I'm like, I'm happy for her.

513
00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:57,880
I'm glad for her.

514
00:27:57,880 --> 00:27:59,360
Number four is Melly Gibson's.

515
00:27:59,360 --> 00:28:00,360
Sorry, who?

516
00:28:00,360 --> 00:28:03,400
Or Mel Gibson as people who aren't his friends call him.

517
00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:08,080
Oh, you and Melly are on Melly terms.

518
00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:09,080
Melly Gibson.

519
00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:10,080
In G.

520
00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:13,920
The other, what should we call it?

521
00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:15,320
The other Gibbs brother.

522
00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:16,320
What?

523
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:17,920
It's Barry, Robin and Melly Gibbs.

524
00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:18,920
Melly Gibbs.

525
00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:21,880
I don't even know who those people are.

526
00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:22,880
It's Stayin' Alive.

527
00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:23,880
What is it?

528
00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:24,880
The Bee Gees?

529
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:25,880
The Bee Gees?

530
00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:26,880
Yeah, the Bee Gees.

531
00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:27,880
Oh, I didn't know that.

532
00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:30,880
That was their last name.

533
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:32,880
Yeah, Barry Gibbs and Robin Gibbs.

534
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:33,880
They're in the Bee Gees.

535
00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:34,880
And Melly Gibbs.

536
00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:35,880
And Melly Gibbs.

537
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:38,960
They're a lesser known cousin.

538
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:42,760
So Mel Gibson recently got in trouble for his violent outburst.

539
00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:46,240
I don't really know about this, but this is just what it said on the source that I read.

540
00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:51,480
He actually got arrested for a DUI and a psychiatrist would actually speak on his behalf stating,

541
00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:55,960
quote, bipolar can lower your impulse control.

542
00:28:55,960 --> 00:29:01,280
Mel actually first revealed that he had bipolar disorder in 2008 stating, quote, I had really

543
00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:04,480
good highs but some very low lows.

544
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:06,960
You didn't know anything about the whole Mel Gibson thingy?

545
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:08,920
I don't really follow celebrities.

546
00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:09,920
I really don't.

547
00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:10,920
It was huge.

548
00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:15,280
Well, I mean, it was clearly a long time ago, but you know, it was a really big deal.

549
00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:21,200
Like he had recordings of him saying anti-Semitic comments and just a bunch of stuff.

550
00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:22,200
And Apocalypse.

551
00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:23,200
Great movie.

552
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:24,200
Yeah, there you go.

553
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:28,480
And also, of course, the psychiatrist saying that bipolar disorder can lower impulse control

554
00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:32,520
obviously is not suggesting that that's an excuse for any behavior.

555
00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:33,520
No, of course not.

556
00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:37,600
For any, yeah, especially as it pertains to racism or other stuff or, you know, being

557
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:38,600
a bigot.

558
00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:39,600
Yeah.

559
00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:40,600
Yeah.

560
00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:41,600
So.

561
00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:44,880
And last but not least, number five is Demi Lovato.

562
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:48,400
Demi has been open about her mental health struggles and she recently spoke out about

563
00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:52,760
how she was having symptoms of bipolar disorder at the age of 15.

564
00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:56,800
She was speaking about being on a tour bus and seeing fans outside trying to get her

565
00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:58,520
to wave back to them.

566
00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:03,280
And she stated about this quote and all I could do was just sit there and cry and quote.

567
00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:07,520
She stated when she finally got her diagnosis, she was quote so relieved, which is nice.

568
00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:11,960
It's like essentially it's like, okay, thank God, like now I can get help for this.

569
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:12,960
You know what it's called.

570
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:13,960
Yeah, right.

571
00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:15,520
And you know how to acknowledge it.

572
00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:19,560
And you know, I said, even said earlier, acknowledging it is part of it is part of

573
00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:25,400
the growth because it's also part of the acceptance, but it's definitely a starting point for,

574
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:27,360
okay, this is what it is.

575
00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:28,360
Yeah.

576
00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:29,360
Let's move forward.

577
00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:31,560
How can I get better now that I know what to call this?

578
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:32,560
Yeah.

579
00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:33,560
But yeah, that's all I have.

580
00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:34,560
Yeah.

581
00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:39,400
And just a reminder to everyone that Demi Lovato has began using she her pronouns again, although

582
00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:41,120
she does identify as non-binary.

583
00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:42,120
Yeah.

584
00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:43,120
Yeah.

585
00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:45,560
I just wanted to look that up because I didn't want to be insensitive.

586
00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:46,560
Yeah.

587
00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:51,200
But yeah, that's types of manias and I guess certain disorders that come along with it.

588
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:52,200
Yeah.

589
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:53,200
That is really interesting stuff.

590
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:54,200
Yeah.

591
00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:55,200
And why the fuck?

592
00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:56,200
Okay.

593
00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:57,200
So we're going to have to do an episode of bipolar disorder, I guess.

594
00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:58,200
Yeah.

595
00:30:58,200 --> 00:30:59,200
That's so funny.

596
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:05,320
I think it was like me, like I personally for myself, like maybe not even realizing

597
00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:08,040
that I wasn't tackling it for a reason.

598
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:09,040
Yeah.

599
00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:10,800
Like I was like, I just figured we talked about it enough.

600
00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:13,000
We must have done a mental breakdown on it.

601
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:14,000
But maybe it is.

602
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:15,000
Yeah.

603
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:16,000
Maybe it's a self-subconscious thing.

604
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:17,000
Yeah, for sure.

605
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:18,000
Do you have anything else?

606
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:19,000
No, that's it.

607
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:20,000
Okay.

608
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:21,280
Well, that's a wrap for today.

609
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