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Hello!

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Welcome back to another episode of Diagnostia Killer, The Mental Breakdown. I'm Kenna. I'm Ka'well. Let's get into this. I'm excited.

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Yes, I'm excited to hear what you have to say.

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First things first, actually. I do have a message from a lovely listener named Lindsay.

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Lindsay?

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And Lindsay said, ladies, I stumbled upon at your podcast last week and now I'm hooked. You make me laugh in every episode and the fact that your sister's warms my heart.

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I don't have that relationship with my sisters and I just love that for you. Keep being lovers of the world and true crime.

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She went ahead to suggest a case which I wrote down and then she said, love you ladies. Bye!

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Thanks, Lindsay.

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Thanks, Lindsay.

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You can be our sister.

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Yeah, absolutely. We already have a sister named Lindsay, kind of. So, yeah. You can be our other honourable sister.

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So true.

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Thanks for the message, though. We always love hearing from you guys.

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And secondly, just want to give a shout out to our newest Patreon member, Joe. Thanks, Joe, so much for joining the Patreon.

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And he's already bought merch, too. He's just a great loyal listener and friend.

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So true. Thanks, Joe.

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Absolutely. Do you want to give everybody our handles if it's their first time listening?

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Sure. You can check us out on social media anywhere at Diagnosing a Killer, other than ex-formerly known as Twitter, which is at Killer Diagnosis.

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We also have a cash-out, PayPal Venmo, if you want to support us monetarily. We also have that Patreon up.

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All of our tiers get ad-free episodes, every episode, and our tier two and three Patreon members get an added bonus episode every month.

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Yeah, that one just came out as well. Who was the person you did? I always forget his name.

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Varg.

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Varg.

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Varg. Varg. Varg is this...

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It's a Norwegian case. So sorry to our Norwegian listeners. It's hard for us to pronounce certain words.

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Vikernis.

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Vikernis.

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You can access the Instagram to find the pictures that are hilarious with the Mayhem background.

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Oh my gosh. Yeah, it's so metal. So metal.

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Yes, that also includes the band Mayhem as well, and they have a crazy wild story.

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Yeah, and if you want to join our current Patreon members, there is almost ten or so bonus episodes that are available right now for you guys to stream.

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It takes less than a minute to sign up, and you get all that content.

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That's so true. Who do we have on the Patreon? It's like Bundy.

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No, Bundy is on a regular...

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I'm sorry, Dahmer.

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Yeah, we have Dahmer. We have Albert Fish. We have the Toybox Killers, the Toolbox Killers.

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Yeah.

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And we have a number of other people I can't put my finger on right now.

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It's pretty interesting stuff.

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Yeah, definitely.

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Wild.

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Very wild.

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Are you ready to get into this minty-breaking?

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I am.

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Okay. Content warning.

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This episode contains talk of potentially triggering mental disorders and talk of suicide.

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If this episode is not for you, we encourage you to find another one of our episodes.

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Remember, your mental health is very important, and we love you.

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Love you.

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Bye.

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So today, we are going to be talking about the types of psychotherapy.

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So, I actually took a class about this recently. It was literally a class called Types of Psychotherapy.

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And I learned a lot, so I decided why not make it into a mental breakdown. Super interesting.

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If you're not familiar, psychotherapy, also known as talk therapy, is a type of treatment

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that can help individuals experiencing a vast amount of different mental health conditions

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and concerns. Essentially, it's the style in which you receive therapy is what it means.

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I like this. This is like right up our alley.

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And it's perfect for a mental breakdown.

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While some types of psychotherapy can actually help alleviate symptoms of certain mental

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health disorders, they can also help establish the reason behind certain symptoms and root causes

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of one's condition. Psychotherapy can be conducted with individuals, couples, and even families,

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depending on the situation. Psychotherapy sessions typically last anywhere from 45 minutes to

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an hour and can be conducted as frequently as multiple times a week, depending on the

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severity of the person's symptoms. In certain inpatient settings, patients may receive psychotherapy

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once a day or even more often. So it just depends on what you're experiencing.

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The entire duration of psychotherapy, again on a case-to-case basis, can last from a few weeks

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to months and even lengthen to months to years in certain instances. Psychotherapy may also be

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combined with medication in certain instances that the patient takes simultaneously, and this

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can be extremely beneficial to the patient. Other things combined with these, such as regular

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routines, exercise, healthy eating habits, etc., can be helpful in assisting the patient

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in healing mentally.

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I love etc.

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Etc. I always say etc.

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Et-C-E-R.

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Yeah, something like that. But it's not EX. I always say etc.

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Etc. I feel like a lot of people do.

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Like Expresso.

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Don't do that.

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Research suggests that most people who receive psychotherapy experience symptom relief and say

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that they have an easier time functioning in their daily lives. According to some sources,

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about 75% of people who engage in psychotherapy show some type of benefit from it.

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There are several different types of psychotherapy that can help people, depending on the kind

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of symptoms they are experiencing. And we're gonna go down to hot 100!

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Yeah! We haven't visited a hot 100 in a while.

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I think it's like the hot 13.

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Number one!

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Number one!

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Combined with number one.

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Cognitive behavioral therapy, or CBT. Probably people have heard about that before. It's

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very common. In the 1960s, Dr. Aaron T. Beck developed CBT. Along with him, psychologist

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Albert Ellis is said to have helped develop the concept as well. Cognitive behavioral

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therapy helps people identify and change certain thinking or behavior patterns that are unhealthy

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or ineffective. The patient is then assisted in changing these thoughts or behaviors and

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replacing them with more accurate thoughts and functional behaviors. CBT often involves

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practicing new skills in the real world, in the real world, and can be helpful in treating

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a variety of disorders, including depression, anxiety, trauma related disorders, or even

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eating disorders. One example of how a therapist might work with a client using CBT is challenging

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the thought, quote, I can't do anything right, end quote, and encouraging the patient to

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instead think, quote, I can do hard things most of the time based on my previous experience,

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end quote. So instead of saying like, oh, I can't do anything right, it's like, well,

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think of all the times you've done things right in your past and use that moving forward.

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Bringing the new thought back to things that were successful for the patient in the past

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is key to encouraging them that they can do things in the present. Individuals who undergo

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CBT have shown to have changes in their brain activity, and studies suggest that this type

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of therapy can even improve brain function.

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Just so cool. Just talking to someone. CBT is one of the most commonly used psychotherapies

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due to the extensive research and evidence of its success.

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Yeah, and I bet it's, I mean, I would assume it's one of the easier ones to gain access

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to just because you're using like talk therapy essentially, right?

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ways to approach the talk therapy.

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it can treat a variety of symptoms, which I guess makes it super common.

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Dialectical Behavior Therapy, or DBT.

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Founded in the late 1970s by American psychologist Marcia Linehan, DBT was originally developed

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to treat chronically suicidal individuals, specifically those who were struggling with

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borderline personality disorder.

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DBT is somewhat similar to CBT. However, it focuses on validation or acceptance of uncomfortable

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thoughts, feelings, and behaviors rather than trying to change them.

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personality disorder.

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The thought is that having a patient come to terms with their troubling thoughts, emotions,

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or behaviors can help them see the fact that those things are able to be changed.

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So essentially, it's like come to terms with what you're feeling first before we try to

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just fix it, you know?

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Because I'm sure like a lot of those are unhealthy patterns or behaviors that you're trying to

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utilize in order to fit quote unquote fix your symptoms.

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And this DBT kind of reminds me of, I'm sure I've said it before on the podcast, like,

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I like to say, you know, if you have a really long list of things to do in your mind, it

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probably seems super overwhelming.

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because you can see it in front of you.

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Instead of it overwhelming your mind.

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So the therapist's role in DBT is to help the patient find a healthy balance between acceptance

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and then change.

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On top of this, the therapist will also help the client develop new skills such as coping

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mechanisms and mindfulness practices so that the individual will eventually be able to

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practice these things on their own.

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Individuals undergoing DBT are expected to utilize the new skills outside treatment,

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and it is thought that eventually they will no longer need the therapist to help them

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through these things.

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Studies have shown DBT to be successful in producing long lasting improvement for patients,

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and it has helped lower instances of potentially dangerous behaviors.

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Although DBT was originally developed to treat individuals with borderline personality disorder,

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it can be effective in other types of mental illness treatment.

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The hell it is.

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This one's called interpersonal therapy or IPT.

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IPT was first developed in 1969 at Yale University by Gerald L. Kerman and Myrna M. Wiseman.

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They would lead a study on the treatment of depression and the trial aimed to mimic clinical

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practice.

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IPT focuses on the relationships that the person has with others with a goal of improving

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the patient's interpersonal skills.

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The therapy helps the patient evaluate their social interactions and pinpoint potentially

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negative patterns.

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These could include social isolation, aggression, passiveness, et cetera.

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And I think social isolation, I think of Joe Guy.

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And he's like, if he was able to manage his interpersonal relationship with his family,

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perhaps he wouldn't have socially isolated himself so much, and maybe there was a different

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outcome that could have happened.

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The goal is that the patient learns strategies for understanding and acting positively with

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others whom they already have relationships with.

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IPT is commonly used as a short-term form of treatment.

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And while it is most often used to treat depression, IPT can be used in other types of mental illness

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therapy, kind of like all of these.

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Number four is called mentalization-based therapy or MBT.

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L.

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Mentalization?

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Yes.

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The word is not even in the dictionary, I don't think, because it keeps coming up with

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a little red line under it when I write it out on the docs.

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What does it suggest for you?

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Does it suggest anything?

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It says, like, ignore spelling.

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So MBT was first developed in the 1990s by Anthony Bateman and Peter Fonagy, and was

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originally created specifically to treat individuals struggling with borderline personality disorder.

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MBT engages and exercises an important skill referred to as mentalizing.

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Mentalizing is the intuitive process that gives people a sense of self.

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It's thought that when people consciously perceive and understand their inner feelings

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and thoughts, this is mentalizing.

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This can also be used to perceive the behavior of others and try to speculate about their

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feelings and thoughts.

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That is interesting, yeah, or like, yeah, putting yourself in someone else's shoes

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or something.

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Yeah, and I always think, like, people that wear glasses like yourself and people that

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have never had to, like myself, I'm like, oh, I just be waking up and be seen for free.

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I'm like, I just be waking up and be mentalizing for free.

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I'm like, are you stupid?

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I'm going to go to therapy for it.

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I need therapy for other reasons.

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So due to these practices, mentalizing in turn helps the patient connect with other people.

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The theory about MBT and borderline personality disorder being connected is that people with

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BPD have a weak ability to mentalize about their own selves, leading to negative feelings

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about oneself, over attachment to others, and difficulty empathizing with the inner lives

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of other people.

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The therapist would begin an MBT therapy session with the patient by encouraging that patient

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to practice mentalizing, specifically about their current relationship with the therapist.

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So they start there.

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Interesting.

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Since people with BPD tend to grow attached to their therapist rather quickly, MBT takes

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this attachment into account immediately.

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Like what about Bob?

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What's that?

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You've never seen what about Bob?

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You should do love.

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You should do love.

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You should watch it because you would love it.

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Yeah, I don't watch things.

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I'm sure that the listeners know that I don't watch things.

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It's a guy who essentially cannot live or function without his therapist.

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So he goes to his vacation home and all this stuff.

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It's like the Evan Guy in Freaky Friday.

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When he's, see, right?

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The difference?

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Who?

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The Curtis in Freaky Friday and she's a therapist and she's like taking one day off for her

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wedding and the guy's like, you can't leave.

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You know what I'm saying?

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That's terrible.

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So MBT is typically long term and less structured than other types of psychotherapy and can

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be carried out in both individual and group settings.

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When I think about the latest trends, I think Spencer's.

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Spencer's has been a mall must visit since its first store opened in 1963.

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From then, Spencer's has always stocked the most unique and buzz worthy products, including

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but not limited to their wide range of Lotto lamps, their body jewelry cases, and of course

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their infamous wallet wall.

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And don't forget about their 18 and up section dedicated to sexual health.

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Did I mention their humanitarian work?

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Spencer's has been partnered with the ACLU for years in an effort to protect individual

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rights as well as other nonprofits such as cancer with over 670 locations in the US.

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Spencer's is the hottest place for trends even after 75 years.

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Click the link in the show notes to receive an exclusive offer today.

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Spencer's life's a party and we're making it fun.

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Number five.

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Number seven.

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We didn't do it for number four.

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I just went into it.

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This is called psychodynamic therapy.

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None other than our BFF Sigmund Freud would develop the collection of theories of psychodynamic

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therapy between the 1890s and 1930s.

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The goal of PDT is to recognize the negative patterns of behaviors and feelings that are

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rooted in past experiences and resolve them.

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This type of therapy often has the therapist ask open-ended questions and give the patient

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free association to express whatever's on their minds.

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After giving the client the floor and allowing them to bring up certain topics, the therapist

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would then help the client sift through the thoughts and identify unconscious patterns

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of behaviors and feelings.

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The therapist then helps interpret the feelings and suggests how they've been caused or influenced

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by past experiences or unresolved feelings.

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Essentially like what happened in your childhood that's causing you to behave the way you

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do today.

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By bringing these patterns to the attention of the client, they can begin to overcome

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the unhelpful behaviors that they had been engaging in.

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Once the client is able to become self-aware, they can begin to change these unhealthy behaviors.

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Number 6.

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This is called humanistic therapy.

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Carl Rogers is known to be one of the main founders of humanistic therapy in the 1950s.

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This type of therapy is also known as humanism and it is a form of talk therapy that focuses

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on the patient's individual nature rather than assuming that groups of people with similar

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characteristics all have the same concerns.

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Humanism aims to consider the whole person, especially focusing on their positive characteristics

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and potential for growth.

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The emphasis on a person's positive traits and behaviors can help develop their ability

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to use their instincts to find growth, healing, and fulfillment.

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Humanistic therapy can be used to treat people with depression, anxiety, panic disorders,

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personality disorders, schizophrenia, addiction, and many other concerns.

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People with low self-esteem and who struggle with finding a bigger purpose in life can

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really benefit from humanistic therapy.

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Number 7.

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Experiential therapy.

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Originally pioneered by Virginia Satir and Carl Whitaker, experiential therapy is a category

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of therapeutic techniques in which expressive tools and activities such as role-playing,

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acting, props, music, crafts, etc. are used to allow clients to re-enact emotional situations

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from their past.

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The object of experiential therapy is to focus on the activities and, through these experiences,

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better identify emotion associated with certain feelings.

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With the assistance of a trained therapist, the patient is encouraged to explore and work

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through their feelings of anger, hurt, shame, or anything else related to their past experiences

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that may have been ignored or pushed aside up until now.

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Different types of experiential therapy include play therapy, art therapy, music therapy,

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drama therapy, and wilderness therapy.

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Let's go out to the wilderness.

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Let's go larping.

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True.

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So, all of these types of therapy are beneficial to patients who are struggling with personality

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disorders, eating disorders, PTSD, and others.

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Number eight.

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This is called supportive therapy.

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Supportive therapy is a subtype of therapy that falls under the psychodynamic types coined

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by Sigmund Freud.

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In this type of therapy, the therapist assists and encourages patients to develop their own

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resources outside of therapy by means of a support group.

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This type of therapy helps build self-esteem, reduce anxiety, strengthen coping mechanisms,

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and improve social and community functioning.

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That's pretty cut and dry.

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Number nine, my absolute favorite, is animal assisted therapy.

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Number nine.

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Dr. Boris Levinson would develop animal assisted therapy in 1964.

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Animal assisted therapy is just what it sounds like.

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Patients are able to spend time with different types of animals, most commonly cats, dogs,

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and horses, but essentially any type of animal can be used in animal assisted therapy.

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I took a class on animal assisted therapy in college, and I got to do equine therapy with

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like the little mini ponies, and they were so cute.

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But there was this one person that had like a naked mole rat as their animal assisted therapy.

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I was like, that's so cute.

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Oh my god.

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I know.

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We should get gorilla certified.

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We should.

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Tortoise.

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Emotional support tortoise.

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Hell yeah.

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Well, don't see, there's a difference though, and I'll get to it.

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Oh.

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Spending time with animals has been proven to reduce symptoms of anxiety, depression,

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fatigue, and even pain for many people.

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Due to this, hospitals, nursing homes, and other medical facilities commonly engage in

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animal assisted therapy for chronically ill patients or simply just for visitations.

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For people with mental health conditions, animals can reduce anxiety more often than

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other types of treatment.

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Pets also provide a non-judgmental form of interaction that can motivate and encourage

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people, especially children, to open up.

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So therapy animals are actually not the same as service animals.

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Therapy animals are typically used in like a clinical setting, again with a trained professional

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like therapist, and emotional support animals or service animals can be for medical reasons

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or on your own doing.

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Emotional support can be like you can seek that out on your own, and then a service dog,

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maybe your dog specifically might be able to detect a blood sugar surge and so on.

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But you're saying like with the therapy animals, it would be with the assistance of a therapist.

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Yeah, exactly.

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It wouldn't be just on your own.

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Right.

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Number 10.

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Number 10, how about Henry?

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This is called gestalt therapy.

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What is it?

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Gestalt.

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It's the last name.

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Gestalt.

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Developed in the 1940s by Fritz Perls and the help of his wife Laura Perls, gestalt

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therapy helps patients focus on the quote, here and now, feelings and experiences rather

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than the root cause of those feelings.

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But that's not even their last name.

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How do they?

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It's not, but it's named after, I misspoke.

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It's not named after a person, but it's a German derivative meaning like put together

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or whole.

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Oh, okay.

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Yeah, so it's not like a last name like I was thinking or like I was saying.

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I'm dumb.

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No, you are not.

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Don't say that about my sister.

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Oh, that was nice.

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Where was I?

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The goal of this type of therapy is to arouse emotions in different situations, allowing

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the person to become more aware as the emotions happen rather than like reflecting on them

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afterward.

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It's pretty much cut and dry as well.

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Client or person-centered therapy is number 11.

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Also credited to Carl Rogers, client-centered therapy is considered non-directive counseling.

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In this therapy session, the therapist will allow the client to take the lead and will

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seldom interrupt or give much insight when responding to the client.

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This type of therapy is centered on the idea that people are capable of deciding for themselves

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what type of psychological topic they want to explore.

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I agree with that.

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Therefore the therapist does not guide the client toward any particular direction or

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outcome, but instead creates a safe environment in which the client can just discuss whatever

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they want to.

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It's so true, so many people feel like they can't vent to maybe people around them that

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are also having daily life issues with work or family and they don't want to burden the

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people around them.

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So it's probably pretty hard to just vent.

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See, that's so funny that you're like, that's my kind of therapy.

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I would hate this.

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I'm like, give me fucking advice, please.

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Don't just let me rant because I'll just like rant myself into a conclusion that makes

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no sense.

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I need help.

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No, a lot of the times if I feel really, really stressed and you know me, that I keep a lot

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of things inside a lot, but if I get the opportunity to just let it go and let me talk and let

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me go, I can get to the conclusion on my own for the most part.

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I feel like sometimes maybe I don't say this out loud or maybe I have to, but if you do

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open up about something, I'm like, okay, do you want advice or do you just want to vent?

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Let me know.

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Okay, I want advice or no, I just want to talk.

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Okay, cool.

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Just talk.

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I feel like sometimes if I'm having a tense conversation with someone, I feel like if

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they try to give me advice, I do nothing but push back.

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I'm like, no, I don't.

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No, I'm not going to do that.

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I'm not going to do the dishes because you asked me to.

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Right.

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Exactly.

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So yeah, client centered therapy, the therapist is simply just there to listen with empathy,

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warmth, respect, non-judgment, and a lot of different types of individuals with mental

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disorders can benefit from this type of therapy, including but not limited to PTSD, anxiety,

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depression, et cetera.

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Number 12, 100 is Alderian therapy.

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This type of therapy was introduced by Alfred Adler, so it is a last name, who focused

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on prevention of behaviors rather than remediation.

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This type of therapy begins by creating specific goals that the patient wants to achieve and

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taking the steps necessary to make those goals a reality.

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I like this type.

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The therapist helps raise the client's self-awareness and encourages increasing knowledge, motivation,

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and habits with the client.

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This type of therapy is mostly beneficial to clients who are struggling with lack of

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motivation or discouragement rather than clients who are struggling with a serious

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mental illness.

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This would be beneficial for me, not that I'm not struggling with a serious mental

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illness, but like-

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For motivation.

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Right.

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I feel like the baseline knowledge, I feel like I would need a little bit more help from

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someone that's licensed to get me to where I need to be.

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Number 13 is Eye Movement Desensitization and Reprocessing Therapy or EMDR.

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Good job.

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Thank you.

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Desensitization is such a hard word to say for me.

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EMDR was created by American psychologist and educator Francine Shapiro in 1989.

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It is a form of psychotherapy used for resolving the symptoms of traumatic and other disturbing

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life experiences.

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This method of therapy involves the patient moving their eyes a specific way while simultaneously

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processing traumatic memories.

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While doing this, the patient's brain is allowed to resume a natural hearing healing

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process.

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Sometimes, there's also like a light bar in front of your eye to help them move.

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Like a light therapy, if it's not.

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EMDR relies on what is known as the Adaptive Information Processing Model.

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This is a theory about how your brain stores memories and suggests that your brain stores

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normal and traumatic memories differently.

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That is so loud.

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That's such a loud play.

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Oh my god.

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Sorry.

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During normal events, your brain stores memories smoothly.

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When you experience disturbing or upsetting events, this type of storage does not happen

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correctly.

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The brain can essentially go like offline and there's a disconnect between what you

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experience and then what your brain stores as a memory.

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This being the case, your brain cannot heal these types of memories in a healthy manner,

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causing disruption between your senses and your memories.

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When a patient undergoes EMDR, the memories of traumatic events are reprocessed and essentially

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repaired to become smooth.

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EMDR can be beneficial in treating anxiety, depression, dissociative disorders, eating

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disorders, OCD, personality disorders, trauma disorders, and many more.

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That is the list.

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I know I went really fast through that, but I was really excited to get it all out there.

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This list actually just scratches the surface on psychotherapies and there is a lot more

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that are available.

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They're just not as common.

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Yeah.

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But you can find a whole list.

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It goes down to the most specific thing you can think of.

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I don't know.

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I can't think of an example.

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But just wanted to add as well, when it comes to choosing a type of therapy for yourself,

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it's important to educate yourself on the different types of therapy that your therapist

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and your local network use and choose which one you think would be the most beneficial.

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Also, don't get discouraged if one type of psychotherapy doesn't work out immediately.

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If that is the case, just try a different type.

482
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You never know.

483
00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:41,880
When looking through potential providers, it's absolutely encouraged to ask them what

484
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type of therapy they utilize and how they would use it in your specific sessions should

485
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:48,400
you ask for one.

486
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If you or somebody you know are experiencing a mental health crisis, call 988.

487
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:57,560
And of course, if you're experiencing an emergency, always dial 911 or your local emergency

488
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line.

489
00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:00,640
That's it.

490
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:01,640
Thanks for bringing the topic.

491
00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:03,480
I thought it was really interesting.

492
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:08,520
I feel like it's been a while since we've had a really straight to the point content

493
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heavy mental breakdown.

494
00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:13,000
I was like, this is the mental breakdown.

495
00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:14,960
Yeah, this is what it's about.

496
00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:15,960
Exactly.

497
00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:17,440
I hope you guys enjoyed that one.

498
00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:21,000
Little less banter than normal, but I thought it was interesting.

499
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:22,240
I think it's very interesting.

500
00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:25,800
Yeah, especially the rapid eye movement one.

501
00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:26,880
That's really interesting.

502
00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:30,400
I don't think I've necessarily heard of that one.

503
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:34,000
But really, I would expect that that would be the one that you'd heard of because it's

504
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:35,960
just been talked about more and more recently.

505
00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:36,960
Oh, okay.

506
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:37,960
Yeah.

507
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:38,960
Yeah, EMDR.

508
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:39,960
I was actually looking into EMDR.

509
00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:42,960
My old therapist actually suggested that might be helpful for me.

510
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:43,960
You know what?

511
00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:45,800
Maybe you were the one that did bring it up to me.

512
00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:46,800
Yeah.

513
00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:47,800
Yeah.

514
00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:48,800
Interesting stuff.

515
00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:49,800
Yeah, it's interesting.

516
00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:52,080
Like when you go and you shop for a therapist now, they have like all of their things that

517
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:53,080
they do.

518
00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:54,080
Exactly.

519
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:55,080
The types of therapy that they do.

520
00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:56,080
I found that really interesting too.

521
00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:59,920
As they should because I've even had an experience where I went to a therapist and

522
00:28:59,920 --> 00:29:05,000
what I didn't know was even a thing at the time, but in hindsight, she was very much

523
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:07,160
like client centered and I hated that.

524
00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:12,560
I was like, it was like everything I said she agreed with and everything I talked about,

525
00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:13,560
she was like, yeah, that does suck.

526
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:15,560
And I was like, okay, no, like help me.

527
00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:17,560
Don't just tell me my life.

528
00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:18,560
Please fix me.

529
00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:19,560
Please.

530
00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:23,720
Just tell me that my life is horrible and I should be sad.

531
00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:24,720
Yeah.

532
00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:26,800
I can see why you're really depressed about that.

533
00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:29,640
Honestly though, like that was almost verbatim what she said.

534
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:30,640
Oh no.

535
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:34,000
Well, thank you guys for joining us for another Menti-Breakie.

536
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:36,240
We will see you soon with another case.

537
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:40,080
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541
00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:46,720
Right?

542
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:47,720
Yeah.

543
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:49,920
And make a soon to be announced announcement.

544
00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:50,920
Yes.

545
00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:51,920
Absolutely.

546
00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:52,920
Probably sometime this week.

547
00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:53,920
For sure.

548
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Be on the lookout for that.

549
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:56,280
And we are also going live on Friday.

550
00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:58,560
So join us on Instagram live on Friday.

551
00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:02,760
We're just going to, I think, just chat, maybe pop over to whatnot as well.

552
00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:03,760
Yeah, we'll see.

553
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:04,760
And we'll see.

554
00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:05,760
Yeah, but we'll see you guys then.

555
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:06,760
All right.

556
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Love you.

557
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