1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,000 Hello! 2 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:05,000 Welcome back to another episode of Diagnosing a Killer. 3 00:00:05,000 --> 00:00:30,000 I'm Kenna and I'm Koel. 4 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:32,000 Welcome back everybody. 5 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:33,000 Hey! 6 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:34,000 How's it going? 7 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:35,000 Good. 8 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:36,000 Good. 9 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:39,640 Little foggy brain today but I just had my coffee so I think I'll be okay. 10 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:40,640 The night coffee. 11 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:41,640 The night coffee. 12 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:43,560 That's a good night coffee. 13 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:44,560 That's nice. 14 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:48,680 Everything has been- actually I had a pretty decent day. 15 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:53,240 I think that I was finally able to get out and get some sunlight and that helped a lot. 16 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:56,280 I did the opposite of that today and that's what I'll be doing tomorrow. 17 00:00:56,280 --> 00:00:57,280 There you go. 18 00:00:57,280 --> 00:00:59,640 It's on my schedule to get some sunlight tomorrow. 19 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:00,640 Perfect. 20 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:03,280 Do you have anything before we get started? 21 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:04,280 I do. 22 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:06,280 I have an apology to make. 23 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:07,280 Okay. 24 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:08,680 I do. 25 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:11,360 We actually got a message from a listener. 26 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:12,680 It is Tyler. 27 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:14,160 Tyler. 28 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:18,840 He said, great episode and kudos to y'all for putting in the work the day that you lost 29 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:20,280 a pet as well. 30 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:23,320 It couldn't have been easy on y'all, expected or not. 31 00:01:23,320 --> 00:01:26,520 Not to be the well actually kinda dude. 32 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:29,880 But I did want to point out for the sake of political correctness or whatever you want 33 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:35,000 to call it, that when you were talking about the Ukrainian child, that is an example of 34 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:36,000 RAD. 35 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:37,280 I'm blanking on their name right now. 36 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:41,800 But you kept saying the Ukraine, which is typically considered pro-Russian terminology 37 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:47,280 because it infers that it's a territory rather than its own country. 38 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:50,080 I didn't know if y'all typically had any listeners in the Ukraine or anything, but 39 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:52,280 I did want to make you aware of that. 40 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:53,480 So that is my bad. 41 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:57,880 My apology is absolutely- now that is something that I learned today. 42 00:01:57,880 --> 00:02:00,000 So it's just referred to as Ukraine? 43 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:01,000 Ukraine. 44 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:02,000 Okay, well I didn't know that either. 45 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:05,400 Thank you Tyler for clarifying that for us. 46 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:09,480 So Natalie Grace, Natalia Grace rather is Ukrainian. 47 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:11,840 I guess it makes sense because you wouldn't say- 48 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:14,240 You wouldn't say the Russia, the Australia. 49 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:16,080 Yeah, that doesn't make sense. 50 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:18,080 But yeah, I guess something we didn't think about. 51 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:19,080 So there you go. 52 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:20,080 Thanks Tyler. 53 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:21,080 Yeah, absolutely. 54 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:23,600 And thanks for being such a loyal listener and friend. 55 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:27,080 Do you want to give everybody our handles before we get started, if this is their first 56 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:28,080 time listening? 57 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:32,560 Sure, you can check us out on any 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True Crime Paranormal Podcast Festival from the 69 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:12,360 12th of July to the 14th of July. 70 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:15,880 It is Kenna's birthday weekend, so we are gonna turn it up. 71 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:16,880 Hell yeah. 72 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:17,880 Yeah. 73 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:21,680 Alright, I think we should just go ahead and get right on into this episode. 74 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:26,320 This is someone that I actually didn't know about before I started researching. 75 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:31,440 His name was in my notes because I think I had maybe seen a short video of him or just 76 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:32,440 heard about him. 77 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:34,480 So I was like, oh, I'm just gonna go ahead and do it. 78 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:40,160 So we're going to be talking today about Ronald Dominic, aka the Bayou Strangler. 79 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:41,960 I've never heard of this case. 80 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:42,960 The Bayou Strangler. 81 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:45,560 You'd think that you would remember if you had heard that before. 82 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:46,560 I don't know. 83 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:47,560 I don't know. 84 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:48,560 Bayou. 85 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:54,520 Content warning, this episode contains depictions of sexual assault of minors, drug addiction, 86 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:56,960 and negative talk about the sex work community. 87 00:03:56,960 --> 00:04:00,440 If this episode is not for you, we encourage you to find another one of our episodes. 88 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:02,880 Remember your mental health is very important to us and we love you. 89 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:03,880 Love you. 90 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:04,880 Bye. 91 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:06,920 So yes, the Bayou Strangler. 92 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:08,440 Here we go. 93 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:14,600 Ronald Joseph Dominic was born on January 9th, 1964 in Tibidow, Louisiana. 94 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:16,120 He's a Capricorn. 95 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:17,120 Always. 96 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:18,240 Always. 97 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:23,120 He was the youngest of six children born to poor laborers and the family lived in a trailer 98 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:26,120 park located on the outskirts of the city. 99 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:29,160 I could not find the name of his parents, no matter how hard I looked. 100 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:33,280 I don't know if that was intentionally not, but they don't have their names out there. 101 00:04:33,280 --> 00:04:35,480 Dan Wozniak's parents were really hard to find their name. 102 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:37,840 I think they found one article where they had their name. 103 00:04:37,840 --> 00:04:39,920 They were just like, nah, not my kid. 104 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:40,920 Pass. 105 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:42,720 Yikes, hard pass. 106 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:47,360 Due to the family being not well off financially, Ronald lived out his young childhood with 107 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:49,240 very little. 108 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:52,200 There's again, not really much known about his grade school years. 109 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:55,360 His early childhood is very hard to decipher. 110 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:57,000 It's just really not there. 111 00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:58,720 Not your rest of second? 112 00:04:58,720 --> 00:04:59,720 1964. 113 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:00,720 1964. 114 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:01,720 Okay, so it wasn't even that long ago. 115 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:02,720 It wasn't, but I don't know. 116 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:08,200 I think it's just like scrapped because they're like, we don't want this information on. 117 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:13,480 Ronald would go on to attend Tibidow High School around the year 1979. 118 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:17,480 While in high school, Ronald was known to be melancholy most of the time with minimal 119 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:20,840 communication skills and low self-esteem. 120 00:05:20,840 --> 00:05:25,760 This might just be because of the lack of education due to the family not being well 121 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:33,120 off, but there's clearly some social challenges that he was facing. 122 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:37,520 He was actually physically larger than most of his classmates in his school, and he would 123 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:41,680 also struggle with health problems due to his weight, so he would be picked on for that 124 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:42,680 as well. 125 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:44,800 He was a heavy guy. 126 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:48,640 Yeah, he did struggle with his weight, and I think that might have caused some sort 127 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:52,920 of breathing problems or whatever. 128 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:58,680 Ronald would join the school choir and the Glee Club, even though he was considered melancholy, 129 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:04,400 and was generally considered unpopular and a social outcast by his peers. 130 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:08,920 He was not involved in sports, and he didn't really partake in the extracurricular activities, 131 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:11,320 like drinking and smoking like his other classmates. 132 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:13,760 So he just was very much a loner. 133 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:16,320 He was just, yeah, just kind of an outcast, you know. 134 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:21,480 But despite all of this, Ronald would graduate high school in 1983 and enroll in Nichols 135 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:25,440 State University, where he studied computer science. 136 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:30,840 While there, Ronald experienced somewhat similar things to high school in terms of peers, and 137 00:06:30,840 --> 00:06:35,880 it was around this time that he would begin to lean towards his true identity. 138 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:40,360 Ronald would fully discover that he was gay, and he would begin frequenting a local gay 139 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:41,360 bar. 140 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:45,280 Unfortunately, some of Ronald's classmates would spot him entering and leaving the gay 141 00:06:45,280 --> 00:06:49,040 bar and actually at the gay bar, and they would begin harassing him about it. 142 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:50,840 But I'm like, you were there. 143 00:06:50,840 --> 00:06:54,920 No, my girlfriend drugged me here. 144 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:55,920 Yeah. 145 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:56,920 That's the gay bar. 146 00:06:56,920 --> 00:06:57,920 Exactly. 147 00:06:57,920 --> 00:07:01,320 So it was kind of like, you're making fun of me, but you're also like hanging out. 148 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:06,440 But like, you know, down at the strip. 149 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:11,720 After being ridiculed essentially, Ronald would intensely deny the accusations that he was 150 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:16,160 gay, but his classmates were unfortunately relentless. 151 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:20,600 Ronald would not find much solace at the bar as either, as the patrons of the bar would 152 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:24,280 find him to be unsettling and off-putting whenever he was around. 153 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:25,280 He's a real dumber, right? 154 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:26,280 Right. 155 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:27,400 He's like, don't hang out with that guy. 156 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:29,800 Although dumber was like, apparently. 157 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:30,800 He was like popular. 158 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:32,800 He was a hot commodity. 159 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:37,600 Ronald would ultimately drop out of college in the mid 1980s. 160 00:07:37,600 --> 00:07:42,880 On June 12th, 1985, Ronald would be arrested on charges of sexual harassment committed 161 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:46,480 via telephone and was fined $75 for this charge. 162 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:48,200 Was he like calling people in mouth breathing? 163 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:49,200 Yeah, I think so. 164 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:50,200 He's something. 165 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:51,200 So gross. 166 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:53,200 It's so gross. 167 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:54,440 So gross. 168 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:58,680 Due to his not having a college degree, Ronald was left to engage in low-skilled labor 169 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:03,280 jobs for the following years, and he would struggle to hold down jobs due to his disciplinary 170 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:04,360 issues. 171 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:08,520 He didn't really have a great time with authority, and he was kind of unwilling to remain in 172 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:11,160 a job for a long period of time. 173 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:13,280 He probably called his job all the time, mouth breathing. 174 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:15,080 That's probably where he got the charge from. 175 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:18,120 The telephone was a lawless woman back then. 176 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:23,000 As soon as he gets fired, he starts sexually harassing people via telephone. 177 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:25,000 Well, it was before caller ID. 178 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:26,000 Yeah, that's very true. 179 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:30,880 I had a girlfriend of mine growing up that she had her own telephone line, and she would 180 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:31,880 get a mouth breather. 181 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:35,360 And for the longest time, I didn't believe her until I picked up the phone one day, and 182 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:38,160 I heard a dude mouth breathing on the other end. 183 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:39,160 Creepy. 184 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:40,160 What is the point? 185 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:43,440 The main line had a caller ID, but her line didn't. 186 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:44,440 That's creepy. 187 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:47,800 I guess the point is fear tactic or whatever, or just being creepy. 188 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:48,800 Yeah, just being creepy. 189 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:49,800 When you get out of that. 190 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:51,800 You're not even saying anything. 191 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:52,800 You're just breathing. 192 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:55,280 You don't even get a conversation out of this. 193 00:08:55,280 --> 00:09:00,840 So, due to not being able to hold down a job for a long period of time, Ronald would live 194 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:04,080 with the relatives and would survive off of other people's income. 195 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:05,480 Oh, he was a bum. 196 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:06,480 Yes. 197 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:11,840 Out of these people, he would take advantage of his older sister and his mother the most. 198 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:16,800 In May of 1994, Ronald would be arrested for drunk driving, and it would be fined again 199 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:17,800 for this offense. 200 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:21,880 So, it's- I'm not gonna say- clearly this is gonna build up, right? 201 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:22,880 Yeah. 202 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:26,880 But in this crime, it's kind of like, all right, drunk driving, mouth breathing, you 203 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:28,400 know, these- Tom peeping. 204 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:29,400 Tom peeping. 205 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:30,400 Tom peeping. 206 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:31,400 Yeah. 207 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:35,640 I wouldn't- I'm not gonna say that these are harmless crimes, but- 208 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:39,040 Yeah, it's very much so. 209 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:43,480 This story is like these little things that he's getting in trouble for, and then like 210 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:45,000 all of a sudden it goes to murder. 211 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:46,000 Like that's not a secret. 212 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:49,040 This is a murder bucket. 213 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:53,520 But I almost think that like he was doing a lot of things that he just didn't get caught 214 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:54,520 for. 215 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:55,520 I see. 216 00:09:55,520 --> 00:09:57,320 And I don't know where this even came from. 217 00:09:57,320 --> 00:10:01,160 Like I don't know if he just felt so outcasted his whole life, and that's why he wanted to 218 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:03,920 like take revenge like we've heard before. 219 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:09,120 Or if he was dealing with these feelings his whole life and was trying to join up with 220 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:12,960 like the Glee Club and choir and stuff to like get away from that and then he just succumbed 221 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:13,960 to it. 222 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:17,480 I mean, this would be in his mid-20s, you know, so it makes sense. 223 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:21,000 It is kind of mirroring, I mean, I guess we haven't really talked because we don't know 224 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:22,560 much about the parents. 225 00:10:22,560 --> 00:10:26,760 What the mother-son dynamic was, but you did say like that he's clearly going to live 226 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:31,240 with or is living with the sister and the mom, or at least taking advantage of them. 227 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:34,120 So I'm wondering if that's part of that. 228 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:38,800 He's like seeking that nurture or because he has a connection with his mom or his sister. 229 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:40,760 It sounds like Kemper, that's what I'm saying. 230 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:41,760 Yeah, for sure. 231 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:44,680 And it sounds like he, I mean, obviously has struggled with his identity in the past, and 232 00:10:44,680 --> 00:10:48,880 when he decided to come out as being homosexual, he got ridiculed for it. 233 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:53,480 So he probably has some inner like anger, you know. 234 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:59,320 Two years later on August 25th, 1996, a partially naked young male would be seen jumping out 235 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:04,800 of a window of Ronald's sister's home where Ronald was living at the time. 236 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:08,760 The boy would run to neighbors where he told them that Ronald had raped him and attempted 237 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:10,680 to kill him. 238 00:11:10,680 --> 00:11:15,120 Ronald would subsequently be arrested for this and charged with forcible rape with 239 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:18,720 his bail being set at $100,000. 240 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:22,680 When the case got transferred to the court, the prosecutor's office was unable to locate 241 00:11:22,680 --> 00:11:25,400 the victim or even establish his identity. 242 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:26,400 What? 243 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:29,480 Due to this, the case would be dismissed in November of that year. 244 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:33,560 Can't find the victim, so just let him go. 245 00:11:33,560 --> 00:11:37,040 I don't know if he was threatened or if he just decided maybe it's not worth it. 246 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:42,280 Maybe he wasn't out himself and didn't want to go through all of that, not exactly sure. 247 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:44,000 But yeah, the charges would be dropped. 248 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:47,800 But still, you would think like there's a claim. 249 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:49,200 At least he's on the radar. 250 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:51,400 Yeah, for sure. 251 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:55,920 Following this, Ronald would continue to frequent local gay bars without finding any luck with 252 00:11:55,920 --> 00:11:57,240 relationships. 253 00:11:57,240 --> 00:12:02,880 He would use his love of singing and glee club background to involve himself with music. 254 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:07,760 Ronald would also frequently be seen dressed up as singer Patty LaBelle, with whom he was 255 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:08,760 a big fan. 256 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:09,760 I love Patty LaBelle. 257 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:14,600 So he would show up to the bar as a Patty LaBelle impersonator. 258 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:15,600 Yeah. 259 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:17,600 Sweet dear, Miss Patty LaBelle. 260 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:18,840 Love it. 261 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:24,720 On July 12th of 1997, 19-year-old David Mitchell was hitchhiking back home after leaving a 262 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:29,960 relative's birthday party at his grandmother's home where he was picked up by Ronald. 263 00:12:29,960 --> 00:12:33,520 Don't know why a relative didn't drive him home, maybe everyone was busy or too drunk. 264 00:12:33,520 --> 00:12:34,520 He's like, fuck it, I'll just hitchhike. 265 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:37,680 I think he's probably just a really big Patty LaBelle fan. 266 00:12:37,680 --> 00:12:38,680 What? 267 00:12:38,680 --> 00:12:39,840 Oh, it's a guy. 268 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:42,920 Just imagine him in the car dressed as Patty LaBelle. 269 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:44,560 Where he was picked up by Patty LaBelle. 270 00:12:44,560 --> 00:12:45,560 Where he... 271 00:12:45,560 --> 00:12:49,640 No, this isn't funny. 272 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:50,640 Sorry. 273 00:12:50,640 --> 00:12:54,880 Ronald would take David back to his house with the promise of sexual activity. 274 00:12:54,880 --> 00:13:00,080 And here he would bind torture, rape, and ultimately murder David. 275 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:04,200 Ronald was noted as stating about this later that he knew after his first victim got away 276 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:08,680 that he would be facing jail time if he did not kill his future victims. 277 00:13:08,680 --> 00:13:10,120 So okay, great. 278 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:12,960 So he's like, oh, I let one get away and now I can't do that. 279 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:15,320 Now I can't do that ever again, so they're all gonna die. 280 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:17,760 Oh my god, that's awful. 281 00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:23,280 David's body would be found two days later on July 14th in 1997 in a ditch along a highway 282 00:13:23,280 --> 00:13:27,920 near a sugarcane field in St. Charles Parish. 283 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:32,680 Forensic research found that there was ditch water in David's lungs, but no trace of physical 284 00:13:32,680 --> 00:13:35,680 trauma, drugs, or alcohol. 285 00:13:35,680 --> 00:13:40,400 David's death would initially be ruled an accidental drowning, but his father insisted 286 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:44,980 that his son was an excellent swimmer and he knew that he had been murdered. 287 00:13:44,980 --> 00:13:48,560 This was more believable, especially due to the fact that the water level in the ditch 288 00:13:48,560 --> 00:13:53,560 was very low and that David's pants had been found around his ankles when he was discovered. 289 00:13:53,560 --> 00:13:55,440 Oh yeah, but he just like drowned. 290 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:57,360 He just like took his pants off and then drowned. 291 00:13:57,360 --> 00:14:03,400 He literally laid down face down, like he would have to make himself. 292 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:04,400 Exactly. 293 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:05,600 That's silly. 294 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:10,780 The Louisiana State Police launched a task force of sheriffs from nine parishes shortly 295 00:14:10,780 --> 00:14:13,040 after the death of David. 296 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:15,920 Unfortunately, nothing would come of the investigation. 297 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:18,400 That's a lot of police energy though. 298 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:19,400 That's interesting. 299 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:23,680 I think this is like eventually, I don't know actually, maybe it was because the dad 300 00:14:23,680 --> 00:14:26,840 was super insistent like, no, like you need to fucking look into this. 301 00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:35,120 Yeah, that reminded me of Sam Hur and Steve Hur, his dad, from the Dan Wasniac case, how 302 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:38,840 they thought that Sam had murdered Julie and the police were looking for Sam as a suspect 303 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:42,680 and Steve's like, my son didn't do this. 304 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:45,280 You will find him, but my son did not do this. 305 00:14:45,280 --> 00:14:48,120 Yeah, that's gotta be awful to not be believed. 306 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:49,120 Right. 307 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:54,440 In December of 1997, 20 year old Gary Pierre was picked up by Ronald and would become his 308 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:55,840 second victim. 309 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:58,400 Well, murder victim. 310 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:03,120 Gary had recently been arrested for drug trafficking and his body would be found fully clothed 311 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:06,640 with no signs of physical trauma or drugs in his system. 312 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:07,640 Interesting. 313 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:12,280 Because of this, investigators did not rule his death a homicide immediately. 314 00:15:12,280 --> 00:15:18,120 The following year on July 31st, 1998, 38 year old Larry Ranson would become Ronald's 315 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:20,120 next victim. 316 00:15:20,120 --> 00:15:23,400 Larry was known to have been struggling with drug addiction and was living on the streets 317 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:24,920 at the time of his murder. 318 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:29,560 Again, due to these things, there was not a strong investigation following his death. 319 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:31,400 I can't believe I've never heard of this case. 320 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:35,760 Yes, and we'll see like it's like boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, like victim after victim. 321 00:15:35,760 --> 00:15:36,760 Yeah. 322 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:38,640 Like I've done cases like this before. 323 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:45,120 In early October of 1998, Ronald met 27 year old Oliver LeBanks and I think it's called 324 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:49,080 a Metri, which is a part of New Orleans. 325 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:53,520 According to Ronald, Oliver was addicted to drugs and he offered Ronald sexual services 326 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:55,600 in exchange for money. 327 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:59,840 Ronald stated that he took Oliver up on his offer and then he strangled him to death following 328 00:15:59,840 --> 00:16:02,040 the encounter. 329 00:16:02,040 --> 00:16:06,280 Oliver LeBanks body would be found a few days later on October 4th on the outskirts of New 330 00:16:06,280 --> 00:16:08,240 Orleans. 331 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:13,360 During the autopsy of Oliver's body, traces of semen were found on his body. 332 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:17,520 Relatives and friends of Oliver's would later comment about his lifestyle and said that 333 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:21,960 he only began abusing drugs and living on the streets following him losing his most 334 00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:23,480 recent job for drug use. 335 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:24,760 Which is really sad. 336 00:16:24,760 --> 00:16:26,400 That is sad. 337 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:31,680 The same month, October of 1998, 16 year old Joseph Brown was lured into Ronald's truck 338 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:35,920 and Kenner under the guise of buying crack cocaine. 339 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:40,160 After doing the drugs together, Ronald would beat the teens several times on the head with 340 00:16:40,160 --> 00:16:44,840 a blunt object and would proceed to strangle him to death with a plastic bag. 341 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:48,200 It's just awful. 342 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:49,520 So many people already. 343 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:50,520 Yeah. 344 00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:51,520 Well, I find it interesting. 345 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:56,280 I mean, I guess we have seen it in cases before but that he is targeting people that 346 00:16:56,280 --> 00:16:58,280 are drug users. 347 00:16:58,280 --> 00:16:59,920 Yeah, and on the streets. 348 00:16:59,920 --> 00:17:04,080 A month later, 18 year old Bruce Williams would also become a victim of Ronald's with 349 00:17:04,080 --> 00:17:08,120 similar circumstances being his cause of death. 350 00:17:08,120 --> 00:17:14,080 In May of 1999, a 36 year old Ronald was driving around Kenner when he came across 21 year old 351 00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:18,680 Manuel Reed who offered to sell Ronald drugs. 352 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:22,720 Ronald stated that he agreed to the offer and allowed Manuel into his truck where he 353 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:26,040 would ultimately rape and strangle him to death as well. 354 00:17:26,040 --> 00:17:28,160 Your saying stated. 355 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:31,160 So I'm assuming there is some type of a confession later. 356 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:32,160 What? 357 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:35,160 I don't know what you're talking about. 358 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:36,160 What's over there? 359 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:41,200 Ronald would dump Manuel's body into an industrial site in the city about a mile from where 360 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:43,280 Joseph Brown's body was found. 361 00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:46,960 And he's getting lazy, essentially. 362 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:48,480 He's just throwing him a thing. 363 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:51,920 And we'll see a lot of his victims are found days after they're murdered. 364 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:53,360 It's not like they're there for months. 365 00:17:53,360 --> 00:17:54,480 I see, yeah. 366 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:59,840 So he's positioning these bodies in a way that someone would find them. 367 00:17:59,840 --> 00:18:01,840 I don't know if he's doing it on purpose though. 368 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:02,840 Yeah, yeah. 369 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:03,840 I think he's just like whatever. 370 00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:05,840 You know, kind of like convenience. 371 00:18:05,840 --> 00:18:09,840 Yeah, it's just like this is as good a spot as any. 372 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:10,840 Yeah. 373 00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:18,480 Whether it's your favorite browser or by app, listening to audiobooks with audiobooks 374 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:23,080 now makes it easier and more affordable to enjoy your favorite books. 375 00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:27,280 Audiobooks Now subscribers receive their club price plan and includes other amazing 376 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:28,520 deals. 377 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:31,400 Click the link in the show notes for an exclusive offer today. 378 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:39,720 Get audiobooks you love for less with audiobooks now. 379 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:44,400 Similar to Oliver LeBanks, traces of semen were found on Manuel's body belonging to 380 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:46,440 an unknown male. 381 00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:50,880 Just to get everybody up to speed, this is now seven murder victims that have been killed. 382 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:52,280 In the span of how long? 383 00:18:52,280 --> 00:18:54,280 A couple of years. 384 00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:59,240 A month following this, in June of 1999, 21-year-old Angelma J. 385 00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:05,160 A transient male with a past conviction for drug possession became Ronald's next victim. 386 00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:09,840 Following killing Angel, Ronald attempted to dump his body in a dumpster, but after discovering 387 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:14,240 that it was full, Ronald would dump Angel's body on the street just out in the open. 388 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:15,240 Oh my god. 389 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:17,240 I think I'm telling you, I think it's just convenience, like whatever. 390 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:18,680 I just need to get rid of this body. 391 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:19,680 Yeah. 392 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:20,920 Oh my god. 393 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:24,360 After examining the corpse, the coroner would find that the victim had been tied up with 394 00:19:24,360 --> 00:19:26,440 rope prior to his death. 395 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:27,440 So he's escalating. 396 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:31,040 Yeah, but it definitely seems like sloppy. 397 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:32,040 Yeah. 398 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:34,720 It's like, what were we talking about, the different types of killers? 399 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:38,040 It's like he's the disorganized type. 400 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:39,040 Yeah. 401 00:19:39,040 --> 00:19:40,040 Yeah. 402 00:19:40,040 --> 00:19:42,880 And it's just like anybody that he sees, or anybody can be a victim. 403 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:48,040 He's not, I mean, he's specifically targeting young men, of course, but like, oh, if I 404 00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:49,960 see one on the street, I'm gonna try to lure him. 405 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:55,400 Yeah, that's just, but I find it interesting that it's been a few years and I guess, here's 406 00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:56,400 the thing though. 407 00:19:56,400 --> 00:20:00,800 We've seen it again before in cases, but there's certain demographics of people that do not 408 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:01,800 get police attention. 409 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:02,800 For sure. 410 00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:08,040 And although they might be slowly linking these crimes together, is it like from page 411 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:09,040 news, probably not? 412 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:10,040 Well, yeah. 413 00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:14,640 And of course, and like we said, a lot of these people had known problems with drug use. 414 00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:17,160 So it's like who's to say that they didn't just overdose, right? 415 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:18,720 The police might be thinking that. 416 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:19,720 Right. 417 00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:20,720 Or it's a drug deal gone wrong. 418 00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:21,720 Yeah. 419 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:26,120 Or if they don't have like marks, you know, that are really obvious and they might not 420 00:20:26,120 --> 00:20:28,480 even be a homicide in their eyes, you know? 421 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:29,480 Yeah. 422 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:32,960 The investigation into the killings, it's funny you say that, it was still ongoing. 423 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:37,760 But at this point, investigators had discovered that Gary Pierre, Joseph Brown, and Angel 424 00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:42,880 Mejia had not only all known each other, but had all lived within close proximity to each 425 00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:43,880 other. 426 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:44,880 What? 427 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:45,880 They were all friends. 428 00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:46,880 Oh my gosh. 429 00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:47,880 Well, acquaintances, I guess. 430 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:48,880 Yeah. 431 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:49,880 But it's like hunting grounds for him. 432 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:51,240 Like this is his hunting ground. 433 00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:52,480 Exactly. 434 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:57,360 In late August of 1999, Ronald would meet 34 year old Mitchell Johnson and offered him 435 00:20:57,360 --> 00:21:00,400 drugs in exchange for sexual favors. 436 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:04,760 He would then take Mitchell to the forest outside Metruyre where he bound him, raped, 437 00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:07,320 and strangled him to death. 438 00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:11,240 Mitchell's fully nude body would be found on September 1st. 439 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:16,640 In January of the year 2000, Ronald would meet 23 year old Michael Vincent in LaFourche, 440 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:20,160 Parish, and subsequently lead him to the same fate as his other victims. 441 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:21,560 That was like last year. 442 00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:22,560 2000? 443 00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:23,760 Yeah, it was. 444 00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:29,080 In early October of 2000, 20 year old Kenneth Randolph Jr., a three time prosecuted child 445 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:32,680 sex offender, would meet Ronald and the two would become friends. 446 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:33,680 Oh yeah. 447 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:35,080 Douche meets douche. 448 00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:36,080 Okay. 449 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:38,320 Douche meets douche. 450 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:42,640 Kenneth lived in the trailer park next to Ronald, and since the two were acquainted, 451 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:46,880 Kenneth thought nothing of it when Ronald invited him back to his trailer. 452 00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:50,640 Ronald would also include the lie that a girl was waiting at his trailer for Kenneth and 453 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:52,280 that she was interested in sex. 454 00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:55,680 Because this guy was not homosexual. 455 00:21:55,680 --> 00:22:00,040 Once the two were alone, Ronald would attack and murder Kenneth, taking his body to a field 456 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:03,160 outside the city and dumping him. 457 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:06,160 Kenneth's remains would be found a few days later on October 6th. 458 00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:09,480 But isn't that kind of gross that he was like, oh there's a little girl waiting for 459 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:11,840 you to have sex with her over my trailer? 460 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:12,840 Like, ugh. 461 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:15,920 I could say something really fucked up right now. 462 00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:16,920 Don't. 463 00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:21,240 So 2001 was kind of a lull for Ronald as there was no record of any murders that actually 464 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:25,240 took place during this year, which I thought was interesting. 465 00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:28,600 Because if you really did take a hiatus, like a year-long hiatus, that's difficult to do 466 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:30,240 when you're a serial killer. 467 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:36,400 Yeah, and again, I keep calling back to other cases, but it's true, like when you have a 468 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:42,640 job change or a location change or a lifestyle change, but sometimes there is a lull. 469 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:44,520 Yeah, for sure. 470 00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:50,520 On February 10th, 2002, Ronald would be arrested yet again, this time for assaulting a woman 471 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:54,760 in Tarabani Parish during a Mardi Gras festival. 472 00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:58,480 Ronald had claimed that he witnessed this woman hit a baby stroller with her car in 473 00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:02,440 one of the parking lots, and he tracked her down to demand an apology. 474 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:04,560 Okay, so that's what I was gonna say. 475 00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:08,720 I'm sure everybody's curious, it's the horrible thing I was gonna say, but it was like, look, 476 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:12,200 I'm here vigilante, right? 477 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:19,400 He took out the sexual child predator, and now he's a hero for saving a baby in a stroller. 478 00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:24,000 The woman would apologize to him, and Ronald would respond by punching her in the face. 479 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:25,480 That's not funny. 480 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:26,480 I am Batman. 481 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:28,760 Just punches her in the face. 482 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:31,400 That's terrible. 483 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:35,200 Ronald would be charged with assault, but these charges would also later be dropped after 484 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:38,440 an agreement of reconciliation was reached between him and the woman. 485 00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:41,440 Yeah, I'm sure she was like, pay for my medical bills. 486 00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:46,720 During this time, no one was the wiser that the man who had been arrested was responsible 487 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:50,680 for the deaths of at least 11 people. 488 00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:55,920 On October 12, 2002, 26-year-old Anoka Jones would meet Ronald while he was living on the 489 00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:57,440 streets in Halma. 490 00:23:57,440 --> 00:23:58,440 Anoka? 491 00:23:58,440 --> 00:23:59,440 What's an interesting name? 492 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:00,440 It is. 493 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:04,600 Anoka was noted as being financially strained and a petty criminal, so he was pretty willing 494 00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:07,360 to do anything for money. 495 00:24:07,360 --> 00:24:12,440 Ronald would lure him to his car where he attacked, tied up, raped, and strangled Anoka 496 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:14,480 to death. 497 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:18,920 Ronald would dump Anoka's body under a highway overpass where it would be discovered several 498 00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:19,920 hours later. 499 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:20,920 That's what I'm saying. 500 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:21,920 He just doesn't care. 501 00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:23,240 He's getting ballsy as fuck. 502 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:24,240 He's just like, whatever. 503 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:25,240 Nobody's going to catch me. 504 00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:26,480 Nobody cares about these people. 505 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:28,920 Well, he's probably like, nobody cares about me. 506 00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:29,920 You know? 507 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:30,920 He's like, I'm not important. 508 00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:31,920 Fuck it. 509 00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:35,720 I mean, that's what he was taught his whole life, that he was insignificant, right? 510 00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:40,800 In late 2002, Ronald's sister would move, and Ronald would of course follow with her, 511 00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:43,080 having nowhere else to go. 512 00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:46,480 They would both move to the rural community of Bayou Blue. 513 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:51,040 Here, Ronald would find a job as a specialist who checked electricity levels at a local 514 00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:55,120 power supply, allowing him to periodically travel. 515 00:24:55,120 --> 00:25:00,800 Around this time, 19-year-old Detrell Woods would become the next victim of Ronald's. 516 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:05,160 His partially nude body and bicycle would be dumped in a field where it would remain 517 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:10,040 undiscovered until May 24th of 2003. 518 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:15,680 Detrell's cause of death would be determined to be asphyxiation from accidental causes. 519 00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:19,440 Detrell was known to have suffered from asthma, so police would rule his death as an accident. 520 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:20,440 I see. 521 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:21,440 I was going to ask. 522 00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:22,440 Like, how? 523 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:23,440 How? 524 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:24,440 Accidentally get choked to death? 525 00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:25,440 Yeah. 526 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:29,400 No, but that's really awful, because he has asthma, and they're like, it's almost like 527 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:31,080 they're finding something else. 528 00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:33,600 Was any other reason they could have died besides being murdered? 529 00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:34,920 They were drug addiction? 530 00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:35,920 They were homeless? 531 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:36,920 You know, the elements? 532 00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:37,920 Right, this asthma? 533 00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:38,920 Yeah. 534 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:44,160 It's just, there's not a lot of effort getting put into this like ME report or like the investigation. 535 00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:45,160 Right. 536 00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:46,160 Yeah. 537 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:50,480 2003 was another lull year for Ronald, as there are no recorded murders during this 538 00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:52,280 year as well. 539 00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:58,280 However, it is unknown if Detrell was killed at the end of 2002 or the beginning of 2003. 540 00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:02,400 Regardless, the rest of the year 2003 was, there's nothing on record. 541 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:03,400 Yeah. 542 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:09,160 In October of 2004, Ronald would lure 46 year old Larry Matthews to his home with the promise 543 00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:10,160 of drugs. 544 00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:12,920 And this is interesting too, because this is his oldest victim. 545 00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:17,800 Usually he, I mean, he has, I think anywhere from like 16 to 46 is his like range, maybe 546 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:19,840 a little bit here, give or take. 547 00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:22,200 But typically you've seen like 1920, 21, 22. 548 00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:23,200 Early 20s. 549 00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:24,200 Yeah, exactly. 550 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:29,120 While the two were engaging in drug use, according to Ronald, Larry would lose consciousness 551 00:26:29,120 --> 00:26:35,480 due to an overdose and Ronald would take advantage of this by raping and strangling the man. 552 00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:38,920 Ronald would dump Larry's body 20 miles from the crime scene. 553 00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:39,920 Like I said, like, I'm not laughing. 554 00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:43,880 It's like he might have just, I'm, I'm, I'm confalling at the ridiculousness. 555 00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:46,720 Like it's like, oh no, I didn't, I didn't make him pass out. 556 00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:47,720 He did that. 557 00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:48,720 He was overdosing. 558 00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:49,720 Exactly. 559 00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:50,720 To rape him. 560 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:51,720 Right. 561 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:54,640 But it's like, it's like, even if he was just trying to do drugs with this guy, as soon 562 00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:57,960 as the opportunity arises or like presents itself, he's like, well, might as well just 563 00:26:57,960 --> 00:26:58,960 rape and kill him. 564 00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:01,040 Like, he's a sloppy opportunist. 565 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:02,540 He really is. 566 00:27:02,540 --> 00:27:06,760 Since Larry was living on the streets at the time of his murder, nobody initially reported 567 00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:07,760 him as missing. 568 00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:10,000 That was another thing I was going to say. 569 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:13,840 Is that these people probably don't have allowed advocates either. 570 00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:14,840 Exactly. 571 00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:18,760 So the police can say whatever they want on a medical or, you know, on the cause of death, 572 00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:24,640 not the police, but they would accept medical examiners, professional opinion, I'm missing 573 00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:25,640 me. 574 00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:26,640 Because they're like, there's no family looking forward anyway. 575 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:27,640 Exactly. 576 00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:32,360 So it's like, homeboy that had their dad be their advocate, right? 577 00:27:32,360 --> 00:27:33,360 Yeah. 578 00:27:33,360 --> 00:27:37,240 Once Larry's body was discovered, it had to be identified via fingerprints. 579 00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:39,560 I think it's because it was just decomposed. 580 00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:40,560 Hmm. 581 00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:45,640 21 year old Michael Barnett's body would be found on October 24th, 2004, and it would 582 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:50,520 later be discovered that he was also a victim of Ronald Dominic. 583 00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:56,920 In February of 2005, Ronald would murder 22 year old Leon Lorette. 584 00:27:56,920 --> 00:28:01,040 According to sources, Leon struggled with alcohol abuse and was also an old roommate 585 00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:03,560 of two of Ronald's previous victims. 586 00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:04,560 This guy. 587 00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:06,320 Michael Barnett and Anoka Jones. 588 00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:07,320 Hmm. 589 00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:12,000 Leon was actually the prime suspect in the murder of his two old roommates. 590 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:14,360 That is, until he became a victim himself. 591 00:28:14,360 --> 00:28:15,360 What the fuck? 592 00:28:15,360 --> 00:28:21,560 Do you think he like takes their identification and stuff and then, I don't know, like, this 593 00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:24,160 sounds cruel, but like picks them off one by one. 594 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:25,160 I mean, it's like. 595 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:27,480 I'm sorry. 596 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:28,480 I don't know. 597 00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:29,600 I don't know. 598 00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:31,920 I mean, I don't. 599 00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:36,840 I mean, it's likely that I've won struggles with drugs than maybe someone else in the 600 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:37,840 house might. 601 00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:38,840 Yeah. 602 00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:39,840 And that's just kind of the, again, opportunist. 603 00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:40,840 Yeah. 604 00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:41,840 No, it's definitely an opportunist. 605 00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:44,240 And he's like, oh, three young guys that all live together? 606 00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:46,280 Well, yeah, all three of them. 607 00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:48,960 Now I have, now I know where they live, you know. 608 00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:49,960 Right. 609 00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:50,960 It's freaky. 610 00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:56,000 Two months later, Ronald would meet 31 year old August Watkins, another man who was living 611 00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:57,960 on the streets. 612 00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:03,840 He would lure August to his truck with the promise of letting him stay at his home overnight. 613 00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:07,960 After the two returned to Ronald's home, August would be offered alcohol and was told that 614 00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:11,560 there was a girl wanting to have sex with him. 615 00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:15,960 Ronald would tie up, rape and strangle August to death following him agreeing to the sex 616 00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:17,920 with the girl. 617 00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:22,360 It was not until August's body was discovered that the police began to put the pieces together 618 00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:24,960 that there may be a serial killer on the loose. 619 00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:32,480 Oh, after 17 murders that had occurred in both Kenner and Halma were strikingly similar. 620 00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:37,720 And at this point, the case was handed over to the FBI because it was already so big. 621 00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:40,640 Well, because they can't, they can't be bothered to do anything else. 622 00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:44,160 So like, we connected the dots, but let's just go ahead and pay for pushes to the FBI. 623 00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:45,160 Right. 624 00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:46,160 You won't be able to handle this. 625 00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:50,080 I think that actually the FBI like takes point after a certain number of people have been 626 00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:51,080 killed. 627 00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:52,080 They like take it from them. 628 00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:53,080 Yeah. 629 00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:54,080 Yeah. 630 00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:58,640 So the task force was made up of those original nine South Louisiana parish sheriffs, the 631 00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:00,920 Louisiana State Police and of course the FBI. 632 00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:05,440 So even though like the case is like the running point, yeah, they're all really trying to 633 00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:07,240 help. 634 00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:12,960 Ronald was clueless that he was being hunted or if he knew he just did not care. 635 00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:20,320 A few days after killing August Watkins, Ronald would meet and kill 23 year old Kurt Cunningham. 636 00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:25,400 Later that same summer, Ronald would also murder 28 year old Alonzo Hogan in St. Charles 637 00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:30,240 Parish and 17 year old Wayne Smith in Terribon Parish. 638 00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:33,840 He would lure both of these men by telling him that one of his female friends was wanting 639 00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:34,840 to have sex with them. 640 00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:36,440 Oh, it's worked so well. 641 00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:38,600 Right. 642 00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:42,960 Like most of his past victims, Alonzo and Wayne did not have past criminal records and 643 00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:45,640 weren't known to use drugs. 644 00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:50,320 It was also noted that Alonzo Hogan had been sexually assaulted while it looked like Wayne 645 00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:54,160 Smith had not, which was interesting. 646 00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:59,560 In September of 2005, 40 year old Chris Neville was trying to hitchhike out of Napoleonville 647 00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:04,080 following Hurricane Katrina when he was picked up by Ronald, which is even more fucked up. 648 00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:05,560 But like you just lost everything in this hurricane. 649 00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:08,080 Now you're trying to get out of the fucking city so you don't drown. 650 00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:09,080 Yeah. 651 00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:10,080 And this asshole picks you up. 652 00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:13,440 Well, and diseases run rampant too because there's just no control. 653 00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:18,000 There's no, like it becomes like all the stagnant water and stuff. 654 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:20,880 It's really easy for bacteria to be spread around. 655 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:25,440 And so it's just dangerous when natural disasters happen like that. 656 00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:26,440 Yeah. 657 00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:32,520 Ronald would murder Chris similar to his other victims and dump his body in a field. 658 00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:37,560 Chris's skeletal remains would be discovered the following month and ID'd by his relatives. 659 00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:39,200 There's a lot of victims. 660 00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:41,200 I tell you, it's a lot. 661 00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:45,960 In late November, 21 year old Nicholas Pelligran had been under concern from his family when 662 00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:50,760 they had found out that he borrowed $400 from a local drug dealer and was unable to pay them 663 00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:51,760 back. 664 00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:52,760 Oh shit. 665 00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:56,760 He would begin to receive death threats and around this same time, Nicholas would meet 666 00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:58,760 Ronald. 667 00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:02,800 Ronald would ultimately murder Nicholas, but when his body was discovered, police thought 668 00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:07,320 that it must be drug related since he owed those guys money. 669 00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:13,320 In the summer of 2006, Ronald would meet a 27 year old by the name of Christopher Sutterfield 670 00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:15,520 and the two would begin casually dating. 671 00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:18,320 He's finally got a boyfriend. 672 00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:23,640 They would remain a couple for a few months until October 14th. 673 00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:27,720 While on a date together, Ronald would hit Christopher over the head with a heavy object 674 00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:31,040 causing him to lose consciousness. 675 00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:33,000 Ronald would ultimately kill Christopher. 676 00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:34,000 What the fuck? 677 00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:35,560 That's your boyfriend. 678 00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:37,680 It's one thing if it's strangers. 679 00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:40,360 I'm sorry, but it is. 680 00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:42,400 There's no escalation. 681 00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:44,080 And now it's like, what did this fucking guy do? 682 00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:46,280 He just didn't want to be with him anymore? 683 00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:49,880 I was thinking about that a second ago when you were talking about the previous victim, 684 00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:55,440 the one that they thought was drug related because you have money, that it's interesting 685 00:32:55,440 --> 00:33:01,280 that even the FBI wouldn't consider this to be more personal because it's usually ex-exiation 686 00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:05,840 or blunt force trauma, something that's pretty personal. 687 00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:10,720 It's not a drive by, it's not gun related, it's not even a stabbing. 688 00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:15,560 There's an instrument that's being used that separates you from the individual. 689 00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:21,000 And so that's why it's interesting that they would rule a lot of these as drug related 690 00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:22,000 or something like that. 691 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:26,800 It's true because especially if they have any markings of being physically assaulted 692 00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:29,320 prior to death, that might not just be... 693 00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:33,680 It's like a drug do-gone-wrong, you probably get shot, you know, stabbed or something. 694 00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:36,120 Not tortured or strangled. 695 00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:37,120 Sexually assaulted. 696 00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:38,120 Yeah. 697 00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:39,440 I mean, you know? 698 00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:43,880 After finding Christopher's body, police would interview his relatives, friends, and 699 00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:47,920 acquaintances, all of whom confirmed that they had last seen him with a man driving a 700 00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:48,920 black SUV. 701 00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:50,320 Oh, here we go, yeah. 702 00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:55,680 They were unable to identify who it was or even describe his appearance. 703 00:33:55,680 --> 00:34:00,680 Police still had no leads in the case, besides maybe a dark colored SUV, but they were unsure 704 00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:05,960 if this was even the same person who was responsible for the murder of now 23 men. 705 00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:08,360 But at the same time, it could at least be a witness. 706 00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:09,520 Yes, potentially. 707 00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:15,320 In November of 2006, Ronald would invite Ricky Wallace, a resident of Bayou Bleu to his home 708 00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:19,840 with the promise of drugs and sex with a woman. 709 00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:23,680 After Ricky entered the trailer, Ronald tried to convince him that the girl was really into 710 00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:27,920 bondage and he offered to tie Ricky up prior to the girl coming in. 711 00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:29,960 Yeah, just helping him grow out. 712 00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:35,520 Ricky would refuse and soon after, Ronald allowed him to leave the home. 713 00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:40,760 Ricky would go to police about this experience and initially he was simply not believed. 714 00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:45,040 Ricky did have a reputation of being addicted to drugs and lying about big things in the 715 00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:46,040 past. 716 00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:50,160 However, regardless of this, police decided to question Ronald. 717 00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:51,160 Good. 718 00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:55,000 Ronald would go down to the police station where he agreed to give a blood sample. 719 00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:56,000 Yep, take it. 720 00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:57,000 I'll be fine. 721 00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:58,000 I'll be fine. 722 00:34:58,000 --> 00:34:59,000 I'm in significant. 723 00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:00,000 Yeah. 724 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:03,280 Over the next week, police would discover that the DNA from Ronald matched the semen 725 00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:07,960 samples taken from Oliver LeBanks and Manuel Reed and an arrest warrant was immediately 726 00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:08,960 put out. 727 00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:09,960 Tell me. 728 00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:15,400 On December 1st, 2006, Ronald would be arrested at a homeless shelter. 729 00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:19,440 After being arrested and questioned, Ronald stated to police that he was at the homeless 730 00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:23,600 shelter because he knew that it was a matter of time before he was captured since he had 731 00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:25,440 provided DNA samples. 732 00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:29,440 So he moved out of his sister's house in order to not inconvenience her. 733 00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:30,440 What? 734 00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:31,440 What a nice guy. 735 00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:32,440 What a nice guy. 736 00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:33,600 He's so nice. 737 00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:37,880 Once at the police station, Ronald expressed his desire to cooperate with investigators 738 00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:42,640 and immediately confessed to 23 murders with details not released to the public. 739 00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:43,640 What the fuck? 740 00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:45,120 He was just like, oh, whatever. 741 00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:46,640 He was just waiting to get caught. 742 00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:47,640 Yeah. 743 00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:49,880 He was just so careless. 744 00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:55,360 Honestly, with the police investigation, he kept seeing, well, I can keep doing this, 745 00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:57,960 and I'm going to keep doing this until I get caught. 746 00:35:57,960 --> 00:35:58,960 Until I get caught. 747 00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:03,360 I can put this guy in the middle of the street and they're still not going to know it's me. 748 00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:07,360 Of course, charges would immediately be placed against Ronald who kept his stance on the 749 00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:11,360 fact that although he confessed, he was not guilty. 750 00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:13,160 What? 751 00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:16,800 He would state that most of the victims had voluntarily gone with him and agreed to be 752 00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:19,480 tied up since they wanted to earn money. 753 00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:20,600 What the fuck? 754 00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:24,360 He would state that anyone who didn't want to be tied up would be released, which is 755 00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:28,480 not true because there's only evidence of that one guy, the last guy. 756 00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:32,680 I'm sorry, but if you tie anyone up against their will, they're not going to want to 757 00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:34,160 be tied up against their will. 758 00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:35,160 Exactly. 759 00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:36,160 I'm sorry. 760 00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:40,360 When it came to his motive, Ronald stated that he was not interested in going to prison, 761 00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:45,040 so he obviously had to dispose of the men that became witnesses to his crimes or victims, 762 00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:46,640 like his sexual assault crimes. 763 00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:50,160 He wasn't interested in going to prison, but yet he dumped every single body in plain 764 00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:51,160 sight. 765 00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:52,280 Yeah, for the most part. 766 00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:57,640 According to him, after Ronald was arrested in 96 for rape, he was strongly impacted and 767 00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:04,200 remained in a constant negative emotional state, even beginning to show signs of a mental disorder. 768 00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:05,200 According to him? 769 00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:06,200 Yes. 770 00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:11,080 There were never any mental disorders that were diagnosed for him, but I don't know, 771 00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:13,960 dissociativeness I think is a really big deal here. 772 00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:15,640 Yeah, for sure. 773 00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:21,000 Ronald would accept a plea bargain from prosecutors on September 24th, 2008, and the court would 774 00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:23,160 find him guilty on all charges. 775 00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:25,160 I think also maybe a paraffilic. 776 00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:27,080 Yeah, definitely. 777 00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:31,520 He would subsequently be sentenced to eight life terms without parole, avoiding the death 778 00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:33,640 penalty by pleading guilty. 779 00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:37,800 And he is currently incarcerated at the Louisiana State Penitentiary in Angola. 780 00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:39,360 How have I never heard of this case? 781 00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:40,360 I don't know. 782 00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:41,360 That's the whole case. 783 00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:43,360 It's kind of a short one, but that was the whole case. 784 00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:49,040 I mean, it was really like no early life, all victims and no aftermath. 785 00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:50,640 That's all I could find. 786 00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:52,240 But yeah, I had never heard of it either. 787 00:37:52,240 --> 00:37:59,400 I guess I came across it, like I said, on a Reddit post or TikTok or something. 788 00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:00,400 And yeah. 789 00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:02,920 I have never heard, and they called him the Bayou Strangler? 790 00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:03,920 Yes. 791 00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:04,920 What? 792 00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:05,920 I know. 793 00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:10,240 That's interesting, because it was when we were not that young. 794 00:38:10,240 --> 00:38:13,760 But yeah, that's the story of Ronald Dominic. 795 00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:16,440 And I mean, like I said, it's pretty cut and dry. 796 00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:17,440 I don't know. 797 00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:18,720 Here's the thing. 798 00:38:18,720 --> 00:38:25,040 A lot of the things that I think led him up to this were just not available to the public. 799 00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:31,560 There had to have been a lot more that went into him developing the way that he did. 800 00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:37,960 I don't think that just being ridiculed for being gay is enough to make someone do this. 801 00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:41,760 I don't know, I think it's comorbid with a bunch of other things, obviously, that may 802 00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:43,840 be paired. 803 00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:48,160 But yeah, I mean, he just really cut and dry case, a lot of victims. 804 00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:52,760 At times, like I said, it kind of reminded me of Edmund Kemper, that there had to have 805 00:38:52,760 --> 00:39:00,520 been some type of an attachment issue with either parent. 806 00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:06,320 Clearly he was close with his mom and his sister enough to want to live with him. 807 00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:07,720 But it could also be a cover. 808 00:39:07,720 --> 00:39:17,120 I think that he did deal with probably issues feeling inadequate and nobody's going to 809 00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:20,520 love me for the way that I am, so I have to force this sexual interaction. 810 00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:21,960 Yeah, like a dumber mindset. 811 00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:22,960 Like a dumber mindset. 812 00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:27,600 But also, like, all of these men were killed at his sister's home. 813 00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:30,200 So there's obviously something dissociative going on there. 814 00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:33,320 It's not like a dumber thing where he lives by himself in an apartment. 815 00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:35,200 I mean, yeah, it's terrible nonetheless. 816 00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:36,720 He lived with his grandmother though. 817 00:39:36,720 --> 00:39:38,080 Other people, that's true. 818 00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:41,400 He has other people in the home and he's still doing it. 819 00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:44,360 That tells me that he's not attached to reality. 820 00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:49,120 Dumping the body, not really even thinking about getting caught, doing it with the company 821 00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:52,360 of other people maybe that could potentially hear who knows. 822 00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:55,160 Or the fact that the victims were linked to each other. 823 00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:57,320 Yeah, they were all roommates and stuff. 824 00:39:57,320 --> 00:40:01,280 He cleared out an entire house of people that all lived together at one point. 825 00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:02,280 That's awful. 826 00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:03,280 It's really, really ballsy. 827 00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:05,800 And again, I think that that ballsy-ness is not necessarily... 828 00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:07,600 I said he was narcissistic earlier. 829 00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:09,120 I don't even know if it's narcissistic. 830 00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:13,760 I think it's just detached, really, is what it comes down to. 831 00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:14,960 Yeah, I agree. 832 00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:16,440 But yeah, that's all I have. 833 00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:17,720 That was a wild case. 834 00:40:17,720 --> 00:40:18,720 Thank you. 835 00:40:18,720 --> 00:40:19,720 Yeah, absolutely. 836 00:40:19,720 --> 00:40:26,480 You will get another Patreon bonus case sometime this week and be looking out for that. 837 00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:29,720 If you are not already a Patreon member, you can go to patreon.com. 838 00:40:29,720 --> 00:40:37,600 All three tiers get ad-free content every week, 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