1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,000 Hello! Hello! 2 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:05,000 Welcome back to another episode of Diagnosing a Killer. I'm Koel. 3 00:00:05,000 --> 00:00:07,000 And I'm Kenna. 4 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:29,000 MUSIC 5 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:30,000 How's it going? 6 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:34,000 It's going really well. I went out and bought a coffee today and I haven't done that in a long time. 7 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:38,160 time and it's just almost nice so much nicer when you get coffee made for you instead of 8 00:00:38,160 --> 00:00:39,160 happy to make it. 9 00:00:39,160 --> 00:00:43,160 I started going to Black Rock recently and they know my order now. 10 00:00:43,160 --> 00:00:44,160 I love Black Rock. 11 00:00:44,160 --> 00:00:45,560 I'm like just the usual and I'm like yes. 12 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:46,560 The usual. 13 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:47,560 The usual. 14 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:48,560 Awesome. 15 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:49,560 Yeah. 16 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:50,560 Oh my gosh. 17 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:53,240 So we got a really great comment on our most recent Patreon episode. 18 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:54,240 Do you want to hear it? 19 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:55,240 Yes. 20 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:56,240 Because it's your episode? 21 00:00:56,240 --> 00:00:57,240 Yes. 22 00:00:57,240 --> 00:01:00,480 Yeah so this was in relation to our newest episode that you did, Lori Valodavelle and 23 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:04,640 our Patreon member Stephanie commented and said, I've been wanting to get into this case 24 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:07,320 but have been intimidated by all of its complexities. 25 00:01:07,320 --> 00:01:10,960 Thank you so much for the great research and breaking it down in an understandable way. 26 00:01:10,960 --> 00:01:11,960 Love you, bye. 27 00:01:11,960 --> 00:01:12,960 Oh that's so great. 28 00:01:12,960 --> 00:01:13,960 Thanks Stephanie. 29 00:01:13,960 --> 00:01:20,360 Yeah it was hard because a lot of the research was very jumbled and so and I'm just like 30 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:21,360 a linear person. 31 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:28,920 It has to go in chronological order otherwise I get lost so I love that people hear that 32 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:30,560 and they know it. 33 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:32,080 Yeah they appreciate it. 34 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episode contains descriptions of sexual assault, gruesome murder and PTSD. 70 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:25,640 But this episode is not for you. 71 00:03:25,640 --> 00:03:28,080 We encourage you to check out another one of our episodes. 72 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:31,040 Remember that your mental health comes first and we love you. 73 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:32,040 Love you. 74 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:33,040 Bye. 75 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:34,040 Bye. 76 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:40,280 Daniel Patrick Wozniak was born at March 23rd in 1984 in Long Beach, California to parents 77 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:43,440 Darryl and Marianne Wozniak. 78 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:47,880 He was the youngest of three having two older brothers, one of which being Tim who was a 79 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:51,240 middle child and was 10 years older than Daniel. 80 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:55,440 He had like a pretty big gap between him and his older brothers. 81 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:59,440 The family was raised in a Catholic household and both of his parents worked and the family 82 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:00,800 seemed pretty well off. 83 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:06,320 They usually took vacations and the affluent family resided in a pretty big house. 84 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:10,440 Most of the time Daniel and his brothers would spend their afternoons with their grandparents 85 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:13,600 as both of their parents worked full time. 86 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:18,600 Dan seemed to have an early affinity for making people laugh even at a young age. 87 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:23,360 He was seemingly very outgoing and performative and always loved to put a smile on people's 88 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:24,360 faces. 89 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:27,520 Sounds like a real Jim Carrey. 90 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:31,880 He wasn't necessarily the coolest kid growing up, but he was able to make friends by being 91 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:35,920 the goofy guy and even dabbled in magic tricks in order to entertain his peers. 92 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:38,920 I know some people like that like in high school. 93 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:43,120 He was in the honor roll and teachers and students alike seemed to get along well with 94 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:44,360 Dan. 95 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:48,480 He never caused any trouble all throughout his grade years and in later years, Dan's 96 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:53,320 eldest two brothers seemed to be quite satisfied with the family's success and therefore they 97 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:56,200 never really felt the need to venture out or go to college. 98 00:04:56,200 --> 00:04:57,200 They were just homebodies. 99 00:04:57,200 --> 00:05:01,360 Don't tell your kids they're perfect because they're never going to try to achieve anything 100 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:02,360 more. 101 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:03,360 They're never going to do anything. 102 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:07,560 Yeah, they were really just like, oh this is stability enough. 103 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:08,800 Dang. 104 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:12,880 The pressure was then left to Dan to create something of a life for himself. 105 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:13,880 That's right. 106 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:15,360 What do you think? 107 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:20,240 If you feel like, oh okay, like my brothers aren't going to do shit so I have to be the 108 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:22,640 one to be the successful one. 109 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:23,640 Yeah. 110 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:24,640 And how much pressure that must be. 111 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:26,240 Probably a lot. 112 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:30,720 After graduating high school, Dan decided that he wanted to begin attending local theater 113 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:35,040 at the Orange County Community Theater and he decided to try out after visiting a few 114 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:36,040 times. 115 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:37,040 The theater. 116 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:38,040 The theater. 117 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:39,040 I'm a philanthropist. 118 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:40,040 No, not a philanthropist. 119 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:41,040 What is it? 120 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:42,040 I don't know. 121 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:43,040 A festian. 122 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:44,040 That's what it is. 123 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:46,340 A fest. 124 00:05:46,340 --> 00:05:47,840 I said that to Cliff the other day too. 125 00:05:47,840 --> 00:05:49,600 It was like, you know, like a philanthropist. 126 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:50,600 I mean, a thespian. 127 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:54,040 That's the way those two words are completely opposite. 128 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:56,200 They are. 129 00:05:56,200 --> 00:06:01,240 So again, although it's not really his dream to be a major Hollywood actor, Dan found that 130 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:03,920 acting came very naturally to him. 131 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:08,680 He had even started mentoring young actors who did look towards being successful in Hollywood 132 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:10,440 one day. 133 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:15,160 Former castmates of his would describe Dan as outgoing and kind of the life of a party. 134 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:16,160 The class clone. 135 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:18,320 The class clone. 136 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:22,480 His voice would carry and he was not afraid to really go for it on stage. 137 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:27,960 He kind of just was one of those people that enjoyed being kind of outlandish. 138 00:06:27,960 --> 00:06:29,280 I'm not that person. 139 00:06:29,280 --> 00:06:30,280 Me neither. 140 00:06:30,280 --> 00:06:32,920 Like I do not want to be the center of attention at all. 141 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:35,800 He loved to be the center of attention. 142 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:39,680 Here is where he met Rachel Buffett at the local theater. 143 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:44,080 The young starlet did have aspirations of becoming a famous actress and she was quite 144 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:45,600 talented. 145 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:50,400 Dan and Rachel had it off and were often casted as the major love interests in the local 146 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:52,200 theater's plays. 147 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:56,560 They would quickly began a romance of their own and to everyone's shock were engaged 148 00:06:56,560 --> 00:07:01,240 within just a short amount of time and the two would move into a nice apartment complex 149 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:02,440 in Costa Mesa. 150 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:03,440 We always hear this, right? 151 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:04,920 The two would quickly get married. 152 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:06,480 The two would quickly marry. 153 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:09,000 Or they'll quickly get engaged or quickly have children. 154 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:11,800 Or quickly get divorced. 155 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:17,400 The two planned on being married in a lavish wedding come that summer in 2010. 156 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:21,400 This was only odd since the two seemed like complete opposites. 157 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:26,640 Rachel was a pretty reserved person and took her acting career very seriously and was almost 158 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:31,600 rigid at times where Dan seemed to be more comfortable on stage. 159 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:35,400 The couple were committed to the idea that they were eventually going to be full-time 160 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:39,480 actors so the two eventually stopped looking for other means of income. 161 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:41,360 Oh gosh, that's not smart. 162 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:45,280 And while getting closer to the wedding, the two were officially struggling financially. 163 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:46,280 Great. 164 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:50,240 I wonder how people, like this is just a personal thing for me. 165 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:54,240 Like I don't think I could date someone that was an actor because I would be like seething 166 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:58,080 with jealousy if they had like any sort of romantic scene with any other character. 167 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:02,360 But then also, I don't know if you've noticed but I've noticed like some characters at 168 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:08,480 least in like a long series or I've seen them in multiple things and they're never intimate 169 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:10,040 with like the opposite sex. 170 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:12,640 It's just like, it's almost like they signed a contract like okay if I'm going to be an 171 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:17,400 actress or an actor, I'm not going to do any romantic scenes with another cast member. 172 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:22,040 I'll be the funny person or I'll be the single friend or whatever. 173 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:27,880 For example, Melissa McCarthy I feel like has very minimum romantic scenes and when she 174 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:30,080 does it's usually with her actual husband. 175 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:31,080 You know what I mean? 176 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:33,080 Yeah, but how do you get into that? 177 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:35,040 I guess she just has to be Melissa McCarthy. 178 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:38,120 Johnny Depp and Winona Ryder started dating after Edward Scissorhand. 179 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:39,120 That's what I'm saying. 180 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:43,440 Like they obviously felt that romantic connection because of their characters. 181 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:46,040 Or Johnny and Amber Heard and Rum Diaries. 182 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:48,120 Or Johnny Depp and anyone really. 183 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:50,080 But that's what I'm saying. 184 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:54,080 Like I couldn't watch even if it's acting, I couldn't watch that and then I would be 185 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:58,640 fearful that like oh they have this chemistry like outside in the real world, you know? 186 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:03,840 There's an episode of Friends where Joey is, is it Joey? 187 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:06,960 Oh no, it's Chandler is dating an actress, right? 188 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:13,560 And the actress has like these really steamy scenes with her co-actor, whatever you call 189 00:09:13,560 --> 00:09:16,080 it, co-cast member. 190 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:19,760 And Chandler gets really, really jealous and Joey's like don't worry about it. 191 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:22,720 Like if there's heat then that means that there's tension. 192 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:26,880 But when there's no tension, it means that they banged because they've already gotten 193 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:27,880 it out, right? 194 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:34,640 Yeah, and so it's like one, like one, I guess like the next time they go to a play and he 195 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:39,480 goes to see Kathy there's like no chemistry and he's like I know you're cheating on me 196 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:43,160 blah blah blah and she's like I would never cheat on you or whatever and he's like I saw 197 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:47,720 it up there, there was no sexual tension between you two and she's like oh so now you're insulting 198 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:48,720 my acting. 199 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:51,720 Like it's really bad. 200 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:53,880 She ends up cheating on him anyways. 201 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:54,880 Spoiler. 202 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:55,880 Spoiler. 203 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:56,880 From 1997. 204 00:09:56,880 --> 00:09:58,920 Ugh, anyways. 205 00:09:58,920 --> 00:10:04,800 On the verge of eviction, the couple would ask various friends and family for money. 206 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:07,880 Most of these loans went to down payments for the wedding however. 207 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:08,880 Oh my god. 208 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:13,880 Photographers, music, catering and the wedding was quickly approaching and in just one week 209 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:15,600 the two would say their vows. 210 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:18,880 How about like postpone the wedding until you can afford it? 211 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:19,880 No. 212 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:23,880 It's gotta be big, it's gotta be lavish, it's gotta be, he's gotta be the successful son. 213 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:24,880 That's true, yeah. 214 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:26,880 It's gotta be the, the Santa. 215 00:10:26,880 --> 00:10:34,880 Juri or Julie Kimbushi was born on Valentine's Day 1987 to her parents, June and Masa. 216 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:38,880 Julie started dancing at age five and the Japanese American was described as bubbly and 217 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:40,320 goofy. 218 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:44,960 She never met a stranger and would always quickly make friends wherever she went. 219 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:48,520 Her parents said that they never worried about her getting into trouble and she was well 220 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:51,040 liked by everyone around her. 221 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:57,080 As silly as she was, she was always respectful of others but especially to her parents. 222 00:10:57,080 --> 00:11:02,360 After high school, Julie began attending Orange Coast College and began studying fashion. 223 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:06,800 In one of her classes, she met a man by the name of Sam Hur. 224 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:10,720 Sam had served in the military and did a tour in Afghanistan. 225 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:15,560 Sam actually volunteered to be at one of the toughest camps overseas. 226 00:11:15,560 --> 00:11:18,120 At any given time there could be hours of combat. 227 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:19,520 Oh my god. 228 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:24,880 Sam was trained to keep the camp's various generators going so even while in combat, 229 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:28,520 he would have to run from generator to generator in order to keep them functional. 230 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:29,520 That's terrifying. 231 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:30,520 That's terrifying. 232 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:31,840 Like the dangerous job. 233 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:34,000 The dangerous camp, the dangerous job. 234 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:35,000 Yeah. 235 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:39,520 He had come back from service in order to gain an education and hopes to return to service 236 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:41,960 and continue to climb the ranks. 237 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:46,200 Sam was exceptionally close with his parents, especially his father Steve. 238 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:50,480 He was described as a great guy and although he was a big guy, he was also described as 239 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:52,400 a teddy bear. 240 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:57,200 Friends and family always saw him laughing, that is until he came back from service. 241 00:11:57,200 --> 00:12:00,600 Sam had begun to show signs of PTSD. 242 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:04,920 His college roommate remembers Sam sometimes crying out in the night saying he was stuck 243 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:05,920 in foxholes. 244 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:08,000 Oh my god, that's terrifying. 245 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:09,000 That is terrifying. 246 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:13,600 I'm actually working on a, just a side note, my final paper for one of my courses right 247 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:20,880 now and the entire paper is about getting post-military veterans, not post, but veterans 248 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:26,520 immediate access to mental health help right when they come back because a lot of the time, 249 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:34,800 and I have 16 different studies that I'm pulling from, but a lot of the time the macho mentality 250 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:41,480 almost can prevent men specifically from coming back and seeking help because it's like, 251 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:45,760 oh, I'm more tough than that, it's kind of like not looked down on, but it's just not 252 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:49,480 as frequent and that can affect their spouses. 253 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:56,120 They can start getting residual mental health symptoms if the original diagnosis or not 254 00:12:56,120 --> 00:13:00,920 diagnosis goes untreated and it's just, it's a vicious cycle because it's like, yeah, 255 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:04,880 they have things like the VA and they have things that are available, but there's not 256 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:10,520 enough resources and a lot of people are going untreated and harming themselves or others. 257 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:15,720 I can't imagine how it must be to go through this whole process of boot camp and then being 258 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:23,000 assigned and you're taught kind of like mind over matter, like you have to work for a greater 259 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:27,640 good than more than just yourself and that the things that you're going through probably 260 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:32,040 aren't as important as other things and so when you come back and you're all just in 261 00:13:32,040 --> 00:13:37,480 an individual again, it's got to be really hard to feel like the need to take care of 262 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:38,480 yourself. 263 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:43,400 It's hard to transition back into that role for sure, role of society and they actually 264 00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:49,120 say that from what I've been reading, the number one problem of getting help is like 265 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:55,240 getting back into the workplace and then getting back on your feet essentially financially 266 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:59,320 and that can cause a lot of things to come to the surface like mental health wise. 267 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:02,880 It is one of those things, it's like it was a routine for so long and then you come back 268 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:07,480 and you have almost more free will and it's like, what do I do with my time? 269 00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:08,480 For sure. 270 00:14:08,480 --> 00:14:12,320 And again, I'm no expert in it but I absolutely believe that there could be more facilities 271 00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:20,560 and more funds pushed towards taking care of veterans when they get back. 272 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:26,240 People give their lives and their mental health to the government and you come home and the 273 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:28,840 government doesn't give you shit and it's rough. 274 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:29,840 It's rough for sure. 275 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:33,520 Again, I'm no expert on it, I would not know the numbers but yeah. 276 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:37,960 Now Sam is somewhat adjusting to his life in Orange Coast College and it's here where 277 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:40,000 he would meet Julie. 278 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:43,280 The two shared a class together and quickly became friends. 279 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:47,240 They fit off each other's passion for knowledge and continuing education. 280 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:48,240 Julie is the dancer? 281 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:49,240 Yes. 282 00:14:49,240 --> 00:14:52,560 They spent a lot of time around each other but told friends and family that they were 283 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:57,360 just friends and it was completely platonic, which it was. 284 00:14:57,360 --> 00:15:01,440 Sam lived in a well off apartment complex close to school and this complex was known 285 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:06,240 to be full of college kids so lots of parties on the weekends and ragers and often times 286 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:09,280 the groups would end up in the apartment pool. 287 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:13,720 On one such occasion, Sam, Julie and some friends were down in the pool when they met 288 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:18,840 Sam's neighbors for the first time, a couple by the name of Dan Wozniak and his fiancee 289 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:19,840 Rachel Buffett. 290 00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:20,840 Oh no. 291 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:21,840 Cool. 292 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:25,560 To change the course of his life forever. 293 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:30,440 Everyone seemed to get along and Dan mentioned that the couple's financial troubles were 294 00:15:30,440 --> 00:15:32,120 getting to him. 295 00:15:32,120 --> 00:15:36,360 Sam talked of his military service and when questioned by Dan about his own finances, 296 00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:38,920 Sam didn't hesitate to bring up the amount of money that he had been saving. 297 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:39,920 Oh no. 298 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:40,920 Fuck. 299 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:46,800 The group would hang out into the night but eventually everyone retires. 300 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:51,760 On the night of May 21st, 2010, Julie had plans to meet up with her brother to discuss 301 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:54,520 her brother's upcoming wedding over dinner. 302 00:15:54,520 --> 00:15:59,320 There, Julie's brother asked her to be part of his upcoming wedding, placing a tiara on 303 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:02,040 Julie's head and almost crowning her for the occasion. 304 00:16:02,040 --> 00:16:03,040 Aw, that's cute. 305 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:05,080 It's really cute. 306 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:08,040 Sometime during the meal, Julie's phone began to blow up. 307 00:16:08,040 --> 00:16:09,540 It's Sam. 308 00:16:09,540 --> 00:16:13,720 Earlier in the day, Sam and Julie were texting back and forth as normal, being silly and 309 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:16,360 even flirtatious at times. 310 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:20,360 First he states that he is helping his friend Dan Wozniak move some furniture. 311 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:23,640 Quote, helping Dan then headed to the folks for the weekend. 312 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:24,640 And quote. 313 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:25,640 God, oh god, oh god, oh god. 314 00:16:25,640 --> 00:16:29,520 A few hours later, while Julie is sitting down to dinner, the texts begin to become 315 00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:30,520 more frantic. 316 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:35,120 Quote, can you come over tonight at midnight alone? 317 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:37,400 Very upset, need to talk. 318 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:39,560 I'm hurting with some bad family crap. 319 00:16:39,560 --> 00:16:40,720 I can't be alone. 320 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:42,400 No sex. 321 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:46,120 Julie reassures him, I'm here for you like family. 322 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:47,680 More texts come in. 323 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:48,680 Can you come by? 324 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:51,040 Please come over, but please don't tell anyone. 325 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:53,120 Oh my god, it's not even him. 326 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:57,120 What happened? 327 00:16:57,120 --> 00:17:02,040 The next morning, Julie's mom, June, noticed that her daughter's door was open. 328 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:07,480 When she cracked the door even further, she called out to Julie, but with no response. 329 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:12,480 Looking around the room, it was obvious that Julie had not come home the night before. 330 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:16,880 Julie's mother, June, begins to call Julie's phone, but all of her calls would eventually 331 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:19,200 go to voicemail. 332 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:23,120 Sam's family had also grown concern as Sam was supposed to visit his parents for the 333 00:17:23,120 --> 00:17:25,960 weekend, as he mentioned in the text. 334 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:30,520 And by Saturday, May 22nd, they still hadn't heard from him. 335 00:17:30,520 --> 00:17:35,880 Sam's father, Steve, began to call Sam's phone, but similar to Julie's mom, his phone 336 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:39,920 seemed to be disconnected or go to voicemail. 337 00:17:39,920 --> 00:17:43,760 Steve, sensing that something was off, decides to drive to Sam's apartment in an effort to 338 00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:46,120 locate his son. 339 00:17:46,120 --> 00:17:49,080 When Steve arrives, the door is open. 340 00:17:49,080 --> 00:17:53,280 He enters his son's apartment to find that nothing seemed out of place until he gets 341 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:54,280 to his son's bedroom. 342 00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:57,520 Oh my god, stop, that's so scary. 343 00:17:57,520 --> 00:18:02,080 There Steve found a body lying on the ground, blood everywhere. 344 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:06,840 He quickly realized that this body, however, was not the body of his son Sam, but of a 345 00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:07,960 woman. 346 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:12,800 The woman was partially closed, suggesting that she had been sexually assaulted. 347 00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:16,360 Steve quickly called 911 to report his findings. 348 00:18:16,360 --> 00:18:19,880 When police arrive, they find the woman's purse in the kitchen, confirming that the 349 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:22,680 woman who was at the scene was Julie Kabushi. 350 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:25,440 Okay, but like, this makes no sense. 351 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:31,120 Like, I know you're gonna get into it, but as far as I can tell right now, it's like 352 00:18:31,120 --> 00:18:35,960 Dan, and he went to Sam's place to kill him for his money. 353 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:40,960 So why would he like lure Julie there, unless he had some secret fetish about her, or he 354 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:44,360 knew that she would call the police if she realized that Sam's missing. 355 00:18:44,360 --> 00:18:46,040 And so he was like, I gotta get rid of her too. 356 00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:48,840 But it's like, in my mind, someone doesn't just become a double murderer. 357 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:49,840 You know what I mean? 358 00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:50,840 Like, over money. 359 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:51,840 So what does it just become? 360 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:52,840 I don't know. 361 00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:53,840 It's just, it's just funky. 362 00:18:53,840 --> 00:18:55,920 I'm sure you'll tell everyone. 363 00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:56,920 We see it all the time. 364 00:18:56,920 --> 00:18:59,760 People, people become double murderers all the time. 365 00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:00,760 Quickly. 366 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:01,760 Quickly. 367 00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:06,840 Julie had been shot in the head, and she was still wearing the tiara that her brother 368 00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:07,840 had gifted her. 369 00:19:07,840 --> 00:19:08,840 Okay, that's really sad. 370 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:09,840 That's really fucking sad. 371 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:10,840 Oh god, no. 372 00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:15,480 Okay, I'm okay. 373 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:20,200 On the back of her shirt was written in, I think it was like Sharpie. 374 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:23,560 It said, quote, all yours fuck you. 375 00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:24,560 End quote. 376 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:25,560 Sorry? 377 00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:26,560 Right? 378 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:27,560 What does that fucking mean? 379 00:19:27,560 --> 00:19:28,560 I don't know. 380 00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:33,920 It's like Charlie Manson and like Pig, or like Race Four or whatever he was, yeah, whatever 381 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:35,680 he was writing in Blood on the Walls. 382 00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:38,040 It seemed, like I said, this is so ominous. 383 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:40,840 This is such a fucking like jump. 384 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:45,320 It's like, all of a sudden they're like homies in the hot tub, and then now he's like this 385 00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:46,320 sadistic killer. 386 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:48,840 Like it's weird. 387 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:52,680 Sam's car was missing, and so was his passport. 388 00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:59,000 Looking further into Sam's past revealed that maybe Sam was capable of hurting Julie. 389 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:02,080 After all, he too had once been tried for murder. 390 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:03,080 What? 391 00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:13,320 If you want great tasting meals daily, but can't find the time to shop or even cook, 392 00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:15,560 we have the solution for you. 393 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:19,520 Fresh meal plan is a convenient, easy way to create custom meals delivered right to 394 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:20,880 your door. 395 00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:24,600 With hundreds of rotating meals each week, there's always something new to look forward 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00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:14,520 Sam Hare was in the apartment as well, although he was not affiliated with the gang. 408 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:18,280 During the discussion, it was determined that possibly one of Sam's own friends could 409 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:20,800 have been involved in the slaying. 410 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:26,240 Sam agreed to participate in luring this man, 19-year-old Byron Benito, into his car, along 411 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:30,920 with two other accomplices, and drove them to a local trailer park. 412 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:35,720 Sam also agreed to go along with a surprise carjacking, acting as if he was caught off 413 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:39,400 guard as well by the random attack. 414 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:43,560 When the young men arrived at the destination, the car was attacked, each man being pulled 415 00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:45,040 from the car. 416 00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:51,280 The gang of 15-20 violently beat, kicked, and stabbed Byron Benito for 15 minutes until 417 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:52,280 he lay dead. 418 00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:57,400 Holy shit, the group leaving his body behind. 419 00:21:57,400 --> 00:22:01,600 Police would soon apprehend all of those who were involved, and although 11 would only 420 00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:06,360 be officially taken to trial, only five were convicted of Byron's murder. 421 00:22:06,360 --> 00:22:10,280 Six would be let go completely free of charge, including Sam Hare. 422 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:11,760 That's crazy. 423 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:13,320 Oh my gosh. 424 00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:17,600 I found one article that talked about this, or not one article, but it's actually the 425 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:18,600 court documents. 426 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:19,600 Yeah. 427 00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:21,600 It was the only thing I could find on it. 428 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:26,680 I was reading another piece that said, oh, he was previously tried for murder, but he 429 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:30,320 was let go, and I was like, wait, we're just going to gloss over that here? 430 00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:31,320 I don't think so. 431 00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:34,440 Pepper that in there real quick. 432 00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:42,880 So yeah, he, and here's the thing is, in my opinion, okay, and this sounds horrible, 433 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:45,640 but in my opinion, I think he was there. 434 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:48,200 He probably knew people that were there. 435 00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:51,920 He happened to be around when this conversation was going on. 436 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:57,240 They suspected his friend, and they're like, you're going to lure him, and what is he going 437 00:22:57,240 --> 00:22:58,240 to do? 438 00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:01,800 There's 14 to 16 other people in that house. 439 00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:03,200 He's going to be like, I'm not going to do that. 440 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:04,200 They would have killed him right there. 441 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:05,200 They would have killed him. 442 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:08,360 And I wholeheartedly believe that. 443 00:23:08,360 --> 00:23:11,440 And so I- That's so awful to imagine being in that situation. 444 00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:14,600 Yeah, you pick up your friend and drive him to his death. 445 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:15,880 Or you get killed. 446 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:17,800 Or you get killed for not doing it. 447 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:19,840 Yeah, that's awful. 448 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:22,480 It is awful. 449 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:27,760 So was it so far fetched that Sam would also lure Julie in order to assault her, murder 450 00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:31,400 her, and then leave her body behind just like he did by Ren? 451 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:34,120 But I feel like he would have gone to his parents' house if that was the case. 452 00:23:34,120 --> 00:23:35,560 Like, nothing happened. 453 00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:36,560 That's true. 454 00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:37,560 You know? 455 00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:38,560 Just here for the weekend. 456 00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:39,560 Just here for the weekend. 457 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:44,680 You would think you would just do a better job of covering it up, is that what you mean? 458 00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:45,680 Yeah. 459 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:50,640 Well, like, I'm saying if he was this mastermind, right? 460 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:53,360 Like, hmm, just go on about what your plans are. 461 00:23:53,360 --> 00:23:56,080 Because you already texted her saying you were going to your parents' house. 462 00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:58,600 Not showing up if you are the perpetrator is suspicious. 463 00:23:58,600 --> 00:23:59,600 Exactly. 464 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:01,480 I know what you mean. 465 00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:07,400 Taking all of this into account, police made Sam the top person on their suspect list. 466 00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:11,720 Interestingly enough, at the crime scene, there were no signs of a struggle. 467 00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:13,080 Nothing was out of place. 468 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:16,640 The apartment was well kept and maintained for a bachelor pad. 469 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:19,440 A few empty beer cans were on the balcony table. 470 00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:24,600 But overall, this did not look like the two drank heavily and then a struggle ensued after 471 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:26,040 becoming intoxicated. 472 00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:28,480 There's no, like, ransacking of the place. 473 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:29,480 No. 474 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:31,520 Nothing was out of place. 475 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:35,000 Police needed to find Sam in order to ask him what really happened that night. 476 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:39,400 So police put out a be on the lookout or a burlow on Sam, given the disruption of his 477 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:42,760 vehicle and put that up to the media. 478 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:48,600 In his military background and his PTSD, police also included in the bulletin that Sam was 479 00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:51,400 likely armed and dangerous. 480 00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:55,600 Which is like, especially for Steve, he's like, I know my son. 481 00:24:55,600 --> 00:25:00,520 Armed and dangerous. 482 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:05,440 Police also interviewed Sam's neighbor, the one talked about in that text message, Dan 483 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:07,760 Wozniak. 484 00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:11,840 Dan did admit that Sam was in his apartment the night previously, but there was also a 485 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:13,720 third man with Sam. 486 00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:18,880 He couldn't remember the man's name, just that he had had a black hat on. 487 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:23,960 Rachel, his wife or fiance, I'm sorry, soon to be wife, confirmed that her fiance story 488 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:27,160 was true, that she also saw this man in a black hat. 489 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:28,160 What? 490 00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:30,880 I'm sorry, if someone's coming into my home, I'm knowing your name. 491 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:33,160 Well, I don't think he came into the home. 492 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:37,320 I think Sam showed up to dance and then when he left, he was with a guy in a black hat. 493 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:38,320 Oh, okay. 494 00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:39,320 It's like, sorry. 495 00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:44,680 Meanwhile, Steve, Sam's father, began doing his own investigation and while digging into 496 00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:50,120 Sam's bank statements, sees what Sam withdrew money the night that Julie was killed. 497 00:25:50,120 --> 00:25:51,120 Hmm. 498 00:25:51,120 --> 00:25:55,400 Strangely though, the withdrawal happened about 20 minutes from Sam's place in Long 499 00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:58,560 Beach, not Costa Mesa. 500 00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:03,240 Steve finds a bank, the bank's location and decides to make the drive himself in hopes 501 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:06,200 of finding his son without immediately alerting police. 502 00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:07,200 Yeah. 503 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:10,480 Steve has this blowout saying that he's armed and dangerous if he calls the cops. 504 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:12,760 Who knows, right? 505 00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:18,280 Steve arrives at the ATM location and doesn't immediately notice anything at the time, but 506 00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:20,040 Steve does not go home. 507 00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:24,680 He posts up in the area and even rented a nearby hotel room in order to catch his son or some 508 00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:29,200 kind of information regarding the whereabouts of his son. 509 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:34,280 The following day, a new notification pops up on Sam's banking information. 510 00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:38,200 Steve sees that Sam's card is being used at a local pizza place. 511 00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:39,520 Dumbass. 512 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:43,760 Steve rushes to the card's location, but while circling the parking lot, he does not 513 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:46,800 see Sam's car anywhere. 514 00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:51,640 Costa Mesa police had also been tracking Sam's bank information at this point and noticed 515 00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:58,280 that there were four total withdrawals from two separate ATMs since Sam's disappearance. 516 00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:02,800 Police retrieved footage from these ATMs and were shocked to find that it was not Sam withdrawing 517 00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:07,800 this money, but a young man with a skateboard no more than 16. 518 00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:08,800 What? 519 00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:09,800 Yeah. 520 00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:11,800 I was gonna say you don't say, but what? 521 00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:12,800 You don't say? 522 00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:13,800 It's that board. 523 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:14,800 Darn. 524 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:15,800 A washnick. 525 00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:16,800 No, it's not. 526 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:17,800 It's a 16-year-old with a skateboard. 527 00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:20,640 Okay, well, he obviously knows Dan. 528 00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:25,360 Simultaneously as Steve is in the pizza place parking lot, that's hard to say, pizza place 529 00:27:25,360 --> 00:27:26,360 parking lot. 530 00:27:26,360 --> 00:27:30,640 Police, there's another one, pizza place parking lot. 531 00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:35,920 Police descend on its location in hopes to catch the person who charged pizza to Sam's 532 00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:37,320 card. 533 00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:41,680 The pizza place notified police that it was not a dine-in, but a delivery, and they were 534 00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:44,280 able to provide the address to police. 535 00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:45,280 Oh, shit. 536 00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:46,280 You're even more dumb. 537 00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:47,280 Yeah, you're even more dumb. 538 00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:48,280 Yeah, this is where I'm staying. 539 00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:51,640 Leave your fucking phone number and your name on my wash. 540 00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:54,080 Well, he has 16, so. 541 00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:59,920 With swat and helicopters in tow, police kicked down the resident's door only to find 16-year-old 542 00:27:59,920 --> 00:28:03,800 Wesley Frillick, munching away at that freshly delivered pizza. 543 00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:04,800 Damn, that sucks. 544 00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:06,800 He's like, can I just eat my pizza? 545 00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:08,800 Bro, I just want to eat my pizza. 546 00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:11,320 Like it just got here, I'm starving. 547 00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:13,080 You want a slice? 548 00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:17,400 Wesley was taken to the ground, and the home was searched in an effort to locate Sam, but 549 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:18,880 Wesley was home alone. 550 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:20,400 What the fuck? 551 00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:24,840 When questioned about the card and why he was taking money out of this account, he claimed 552 00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:30,560 that it was his theater mentor, Dan Wozniak, that instructed him to, because he remember 553 00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:31,560 he mentored kids. 554 00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:32,560 He's such a great guy. 555 00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:34,120 I figured he knew Dan. 556 00:28:34,120 --> 00:28:36,360 Figured he knew Dan. 557 00:28:36,360 --> 00:28:40,760 Wesley went on to say that Dan told Wesley that Sam was in legal trouble, and that Sam 558 00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:47,160 had given his debit card to Dan in order to withdraw money in order to pay a bail bondsman. 559 00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:48,840 Why wouldn't he just withdraw it himself? 560 00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:49,840 Right, exactly. 561 00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:53,360 But I think that Dan was like, oh, Sam's in jail or something. 562 00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:54,360 Okay. 563 00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:55,360 He's not so dumb. 564 00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:56,360 It is. 565 00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:58,880 And he just trusted me, a neighbor I've known him for a few months. 566 00:28:58,880 --> 00:28:59,880 Yeah, exactly. 567 00:28:59,880 --> 00:29:01,440 Well, the kid doesn't know that. 568 00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:02,440 Yeah. 569 00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:04,520 The kid's a kid. 570 00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:08,640 Dan even provided him with false paperwork proving that this was legit. 571 00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:12,120 Dan was like, oh, see, here's all the paperwork that Sam gave me. 572 00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:19,600 I refuse to believe that Dan went from normal, outlandish, center life of the party to criminal 573 00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:20,600 mastermind. 574 00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:21,600 I really just refuse to believe that. 575 00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:23,720 Well, he's not on mastermind. 576 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:26,400 I wouldn't have thought of that, giving him false paperwork. 577 00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:29,280 That's a lot of effort to make yourself look innocent. 578 00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:30,280 That's a lot of effort, though. 579 00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:34,600 Well, he's obviously not a mastermind because he gets caught, but still. 580 00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:39,760 Dan Wozniak was now the prime suspect in the murder of Julie. 581 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:45,000 Police called Dan to casually ask him to come down to the station, but Dan was like, sorry, 582 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:47,880 unfortunately, I'm at my bachelor party. 583 00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:48,880 So... 584 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:52,280 That is such a funny reason to not go down to questioning. 585 00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:54,400 I'm trying to party. 586 00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:55,400 I'm trying to party. 587 00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:58,000 It's my bachelor party. 588 00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:02,360 Police were able to track down where the bachelor party was being held, which was at a local 589 00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:07,240 sushi place, and police arrived to tell Dan that he had no other choice but to come with 590 00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:08,240 them. 591 00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:09,240 That is so funny. 592 00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:10,800 Oh my gosh, imagine that. 593 00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:12,600 He's probably wasted. 594 00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:14,600 I don't know. 595 00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:16,960 I'm fucking to reprimand him. 596 00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:22,040 All of his friends and family, his brothers, his uncles, whatever, just be like, well, 597 00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:23,040 what do we do now? 598 00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:24,600 Did they keep partying without him? 599 00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:26,080 Honestly, I probably would. 600 00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:27,560 Yeah, I really would. 601 00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:28,560 Bye, Sayonara. 602 00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:29,560 Sorry. 603 00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:31,080 This is all on Dan. 604 00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:32,280 This is all on Sam. 605 00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:33,280 Yeah. 606 00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:34,280 Use the card, please. 607 00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:35,280 Use the card, please. 608 00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:36,280 Fuck. 609 00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:37,280 That's awful. 610 00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:40,120 So he responds with, quote, I'll tell you everything. 611 00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:43,560 I'm sick of covering for Sam, end quote. 612 00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:44,560 Okay. 613 00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:45,560 I... 614 00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:47,880 If I didn't already hate this guy. 615 00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:48,880 Yeah. 616 00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:54,080 And once at the station, Dan claims that Sam came over that night, May 21st, to discuss 617 00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:56,800 Dan's financial troubles. 618 00:30:56,800 --> 00:31:00,400 Dan had told Sam previously that he was struggling to make ends meet. 619 00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:05,480 And with the wedding in seven days, he had no idea how he was going to pay for everything. 620 00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:10,560 Sam, being the good guy that he was, offered to withdraw money little by little from his 621 00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:14,600 own account and simply report his card lost or stolen. 622 00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:15,600 Yeah. 623 00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:17,640 Why would he just give you this money? 624 00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:18,640 I don't understand. 625 00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:20,680 Why wouldn't he just give him the money? 626 00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:24,880 So essentially, Dan was like, everyone wins in this scenario, right? 627 00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:31,800 After all, Sam had over $62,000 in his bank account and he would help out Dan, just as 628 00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:34,320 like a favor. 629 00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:37,240 Dan went on to say that he was performing in a play that night. 630 00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:41,800 So on the way to the show, he stopped at an ATM and made the first withdrawal. 631 00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:42,800 Wrong. 632 00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:43,800 Because the kid did. 633 00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:44,800 Yeah. 634 00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:45,800 Wrong. 635 00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:46,800 There's video footage. 636 00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:47,800 Wrong. 637 00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:48,800 He was there that night. 638 00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:53,440 The two finished the show, went home, showered, then had sex and went to bed. 639 00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:54,640 And he says it in the interview. 640 00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:56,360 He's like, then we had sex. 641 00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:59,280 It's like, are you trying to remind people that you have sex? 642 00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:00,280 Yeah. 643 00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:01,280 He's a fuck-cares. 644 00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:02,280 Who cares? 645 00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:03,280 Yeah. 646 00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:09,120 Dan did say repeatedly that he had no idea where Sam went after Sam gave him his debit 647 00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:12,080 card that night. 648 00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:16,840 Detectives press Dan further and his story begins to morph a little bit. 649 00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:20,920 Dan then comes out and says, all right, well, I did see Sam the next day too. 650 00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:25,240 It was early in the morning and he came by to tell me that he had done something bad, 651 00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:29,360 that there was a body in his apartment and that he shot someone after he flew into a 652 00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:32,480 rage after using drugs. 653 00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:34,200 And you wouldn't have just led with that? 654 00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:35,720 No, he didn't lead with that. 655 00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:38,760 By the way, oh, I just remembered this one small detail. 656 00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:40,640 He totally killed someone. 657 00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:41,640 He killed a kid. 658 00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:44,600 How do you forget that? 659 00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:49,120 So two points, he did this to one, create the illusion that Sam had to be alive after 660 00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:51,120 the first withdrawal. 661 00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:54,640 And that Sam was the one who killed Julie. 662 00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:58,720 Dan went on to say that Sam threatened him if he were to talk. 663 00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:02,320 This is a direct quote and I'm going to try to say it the way that he said it. 664 00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:07,000 I said, dude, I'm not one to judge you, but you fucking got me into this. 665 00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:09,840 And then he was all like, well, I know where you live. 666 00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:12,560 And I said, yeah, you do know where I live. 667 00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:13,960 And he's like, you rat me out. 668 00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:16,160 I'm going to fucking kill you. 669 00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:20,640 And better yet, I'm going to start with your wife end quote. 670 00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:24,680 He's all doing this while he's like wringing his hands through his hair because he's like 671 00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:26,160 trying to come up with something. 672 00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:27,160 Yeah. 673 00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:31,600 He's like, oh shit, like, no, now I have to phrase it like in case I use the self-defense 674 00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:34,680 defense later, I'm going to say he threatened me now. 675 00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:35,680 Yeah, for sure. 676 00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:40,320 And then in case I want to go like a maniac again and kill my wife, then now I can play 677 00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:41,320 it on Sam. 678 00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:43,680 My laugh. 679 00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:47,560 And then states that he gave Sam a ride to the mall. 680 00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:49,800 He's like, oh, you got to get out of here because he murdered someone. 681 00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:50,800 Let me take you to the mall. 682 00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:54,720 And it's like, if he just killed someone, why would he go to one of the more popular 683 00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:55,720 areas? 684 00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:58,160 And then if he just killed someone and then threatened you, why would you get in the car 685 00:33:58,160 --> 00:33:59,160 with it? 686 00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:01,880 Yeah, why would you just like, oh yeah, let me give you a ride, friend. 687 00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:02,880 Thanks for the money. 688 00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:03,880 Yeah. 689 00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:04,880 This is so silly. 690 00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:05,880 Like, it makes no sense. 691 00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:06,880 It's silly. 692 00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:07,880 He's a bad liar. 693 00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:12,840 When Dan returns home, he said that he feared his wife would be suspicious of him if he 694 00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:16,240 revealed that he was the last person to see Sam alive. 695 00:34:16,240 --> 00:34:20,200 So Dan made up the story about the man in the black hat in order to keep his wife from 696 00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:23,360 suspecting him of any wrongdoing. 697 00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:24,680 You just said you didn't do anything wrong. 698 00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:25,680 Yeah. 699 00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:28,080 He was like, well, but I don't want people to think I did something wrong. 700 00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:32,080 And if Sam's missing, I certainly don't want my wife to think I had anything to do with 701 00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:33,080 it. 702 00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:35,720 So let me just tell her that I saw Sam with a dude in a black hat. 703 00:34:35,720 --> 00:34:39,080 So he's like openly admitting that he's like making stories up to cover his ass. 704 00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:40,080 Yeah. 705 00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:41,080 So why wouldn't he be doing it right now? 706 00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:42,080 Exactly. 707 00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:45,680 He's essentially admitting to police right here and now that he's lied this whole time. 708 00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:46,680 Yeah. 709 00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:50,040 Whether or not this is actually factual or not, he's straying away from his original 710 00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:51,040 story. 711 00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:52,040 For sure. 712 00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:55,320 Police confident that Dan had something to do with Sam's disappearance and Julie's 713 00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:58,720 murder at this point take a DNA sample. 714 00:34:58,720 --> 00:35:03,400 Knowing now that Dan's DNA might be found at the crime scene, Dan explains even further 715 00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:08,400 before being asked that he was in Sam's apartment that night in order to use the bathroom, but 716 00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:10,280 he never saw Julie that night. 717 00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:12,400 Let me just volunteer this information. 718 00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:14,360 Don't you love when they volunteer the information? 719 00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:15,600 They just explain it away. 720 00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:16,600 They try to. 721 00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:18,400 They try to and it's like, but I didn't even ask you that. 722 00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:19,400 So yeah. 723 00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:20,400 Yeah. 724 00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:23,520 At this point, Dan begins to raise his voice. 725 00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:28,240 He starts speaking with very direct answers and it's almost like he's putting on a performance 726 00:35:28,240 --> 00:35:30,040 for the detectives in the room. 727 00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:33,080 He's like, I don't know what you want from me. 728 00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:36,200 I don't know what happened to Sam or Julie. 729 00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:37,200 Yeah. 730 00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:38,200 It's very true. 731 00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:40,560 I thought that was Julie. 732 00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:41,560 Yeah. 733 00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:42,560 Yeah. 734 00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:44,360 It starts reciting Hamlet. 735 00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:45,680 Cute. 736 00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:49,800 He begins to beg detectives, quote, I'll tell you anything you want. 737 00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:53,080 Just please get me to my wedding by Friday and quote. 738 00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:54,080 Whatever. 739 00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:55,080 That's what he's concerned about. 740 00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:58,840 Well, I mean, if he did all this, he's got to make it worth it. 741 00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:01,080 He's got to make that wedding. 742 00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:04,520 Slowly, Dan begins to emit more and more. 743 00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:09,720 He admits to helping Sam move Julie's body in order to help him escape, which then makes 744 00:36:09,720 --> 00:36:11,400 him accessory after the fact. 745 00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:12,400 Yeah. 746 00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:16,120 So at this point, police tell him he's not free to go anywhere. 747 00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:22,480 More pressure and 14 hours into the interview, detectives eventually coax Dan into a confection. 748 00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:23,480 Confession. 749 00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:25,440 They make him into a cupcake. 750 00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:26,440 Into a cupcake. 751 00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:35,120 Coax him into a confection of it. 752 00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:39,040 Oh, no. 753 00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:41,600 He says, quote, I'm crazy. 754 00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:42,600 I did it. 755 00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:45,560 I killed Julie and I killed Sam and quote. 756 00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:48,120 So why didn't you start with that? 757 00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:50,960 I'm obviously, he's got to make it to his wedding. 758 00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:51,960 Yeah. 759 00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:52,960 He can't be locked up. 760 00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:53,960 Oh my God. 761 00:36:53,960 --> 00:37:00,200 Dan said that he had asked for Sam's help moving some stuff into his place, sorry, from 762 00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:05,480 his place to the theater as Dan was due to perform there later that night. 763 00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:10,200 When Sam turned to pick something up, Dan pulled out a gun and shot Sam twice killing 764 00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:11,680 him. 765 00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:16,760 He said that the motive for this was to collect the money that Sam had in his bank account. 766 00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:18,000 Yep. 767 00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:23,480 Dan then grabbed Sam's phone to text Julie luring her into Sam's apartment. 768 00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:29,680 But first, Dan and his fiance, Rachel went to the theater in order to perform their play. 769 00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:31,200 In between this time. 770 00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:32,200 In between killing each of them. 771 00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:34,000 And did Rachel know? 772 00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:35,920 Okay, she did. 773 00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:38,420 Go ahead. 774 00:37:38,420 --> 00:37:43,440 It wasn't until two hours later that Dan was in his apartment texting Julie, asking 775 00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:45,920 her to come to Sam's apartment. 776 00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:50,240 When he saw Julie at Sam's front door, Dan walked outside to chat with her. 777 00:37:50,240 --> 00:37:55,080 He had had a key to Sam's place and Dan said that he was too worried about Sam as Sam had 778 00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:58,120 also texted him that he was going through family matters as well. 779 00:37:58,120 --> 00:37:59,160 Wow, how manipulative. 780 00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:00,160 Right? 781 00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:03,920 When the two got into the apartment, Dan shot her. 782 00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:07,600 Dan said that the sole motive for killing Julie was to frame Sam. 783 00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:08,600 Oh, okay. 784 00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:12,520 I thought it was like she's gonna call the police if she realizes he's missing. 785 00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:13,520 No. 786 00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:14,520 So I need to get rid of her too. 787 00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:17,160 As he's confessing, he's like, I don't know, I'm just crazy. 788 00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:20,840 I just, I needed to cover up Sam. 789 00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:21,840 That's insane. 790 00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:26,440 I hate to use that word, but it's like, again, this seems like all of a sudden he's like 791 00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:31,040 this crazed killer in this planning left and right. 792 00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:39,520 I think it's just that he feels that he's such a good actor and he's so narcissistic 793 00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:45,880 that he believes that he's gotta do something with this pressure. 794 00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:51,160 It's like, I mean, to me, it's no different than like Scott Peterson, Chris Watts, because 795 00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:56,000 he's got all this pressure to perform or be this person and the pressure becomes too 796 00:38:56,000 --> 00:39:01,480 much and he's narcissistic enough to believe that he can get away with a murder. 797 00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:03,920 Not really know what he's doing. 798 00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:05,680 There's no real solid plan. 799 00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:08,440 There's kind of a plan, you know, the same thing with Chris Watts. 800 00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:13,240 There's kind of a plan, but no real follow through. 801 00:39:13,240 --> 00:39:20,000 When detectives asked Daniel where Sam was, Daniel admitted that he dismembered Sam and 802 00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:23,520 scattered his body in a nature center along Long Beach. 803 00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:25,520 Holy shit. 804 00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:30,920 Most of Sam's body was recovered after Dan led them to the site, but not all of them. 805 00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:35,480 So my question is like where the sense kind of morbid, but like where did he dismember 806 00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:36,480 him? 807 00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:37,480 Where's all this evidence? 808 00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:40,120 Is it in Dan's apartment or because it wasn't in Sam's apartment? 809 00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:44,120 I don't think that the details of that have ever been released. 810 00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:48,960 And I'm gonna say that because I very much wanted to find the court case for this and 811 00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:50,360 I could not find anything. 812 00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:54,960 There's no transcripts anywhere, at least from what I can tell. 813 00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:59,240 And maybe like the statute hasn't been lifted yet when you can release those. 814 00:39:59,240 --> 00:40:03,840 But as far as I can tell, any article that I saw didn't say whether or not he dismembered 815 00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:05,200 him at the theater. 816 00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:09,840 If he dismembered him at his apartment or Sam's apartment, but Sam's apartment looked 817 00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:10,840 fine. 818 00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:12,360 Yeah, I don't think it would have been that. 819 00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:13,360 That's interesting. 820 00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:14,440 Right. 821 00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:15,600 And I'm not sure why. 822 00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:18,040 I don't know if that's because... 823 00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:19,040 It wasn't important. 824 00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:20,040 Yeah. 825 00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:24,960 Or maybe it was at the theater and they're like, didn't want to have a bad name, you 826 00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:25,960 know? 827 00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:26,960 I don't know. 828 00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:27,960 It's true. 829 00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:28,960 They might. 830 00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:29,960 They might have buried that on purpose. 831 00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:30,960 Right. 832 00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:33,360 Daniel Wozniak would be charged for both the murder of Julie and Sam. 833 00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:39,000 He was convicted of both counts of first degree murder and was sentenced to death in 2016. 834 00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:43,160 He is currently incarcerated in California's medical facility due to an unspecified mental 835 00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:50,640 illness, due to an unspecified mental illness, but has also spent time in Salinas and Sanquintin. 836 00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:56,520 Rachel Buffett, his fiancé, would also be charged with accessory after the fact for lying 837 00:40:56,520 --> 00:41:01,160 to investigators about her knowledge of Daniel's whereabouts than either the crime and for 838 00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:06,560 perpetrating the lie that the man had, the man with the black hat, just existed. 839 00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:10,720 She was sentenced to 32 months and was released in 2019. 840 00:41:10,720 --> 00:41:15,560 And in another strange turn of events, Daniel's own brother, Tim, would also be arrested for 841 00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:19,280 concealing their murder weapon and Sam's bloody clothing. 842 00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:20,400 Oh my god. 843 00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:23,920 He was sentenced to three years probation and mandatory drug rehab. 844 00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:24,920 Damn. 845 00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:26,160 He like rescheduled to his brother. 846 00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:27,800 He's like, yo, look, I need you to take this for me. 847 00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:28,800 I need you to take these things. 848 00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:29,800 God. 849 00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:31,880 But it's like you're dragging other people with you. 850 00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:32,880 Like what the fuck? 851 00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:33,880 Yeah. 852 00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:35,800 Well, that's because he only cared about making his wedding. 853 00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:36,800 Exactly. 854 00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:40,240 You know, like he didn't care about the lives of two people and well, four people now actually 855 00:41:40,240 --> 00:41:44,360 because his wife and his brother now are implicated. 856 00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:47,120 I really think that Rachel probably knew more than that. 857 00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:52,200 I think maybe she even assisted him with some things because I'm pretty sure she's just 858 00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:54,120 as narcissistic as he is. 859 00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:57,280 And I'm sure she wanted a nice big lavish wedding. 860 00:41:57,280 --> 00:42:00,920 Or she probably just looked the other way, like ignorance is bliss. 861 00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:03,640 You know, it's interesting how often that happens. 862 00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:07,960 Like someone you love does something really, really bad and you're like, it'll be like, 863 00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:09,600 you know, like, I love them. 864 00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:10,600 Yeah. 865 00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:11,600 Just don't say anything. 866 00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:13,800 You know, well, that's the story of Dan Wozniak. 867 00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:14,800 That's crazy. 868 00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:19,400 I've never heard that story before and the recency of it is baffling to me because I've 869 00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:21,000 never heard anything like that. 870 00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:26,280 I thought the name sounded familiar, but so what unspecified mental disorder do you think 871 00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:27,680 he might have had? 872 00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:32,720 I think that he definitely had a narcissistic personality disorder or something like that. 873 00:42:32,720 --> 00:42:36,040 Something that was a personality disorder with narcissistic tendencies. 874 00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:37,040 Yeah. 875 00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:41,720 It sounds like maybe a little bit of antisocial as well because he was so calm about this whole 876 00:42:41,720 --> 00:42:46,480 thing, just so ready to like end the lives of two people just to get what he wanted and 877 00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:50,720 a seemingly didn't have any feelings about it and then tried to blame the victim, you 878 00:42:50,720 --> 00:42:53,280 know, make him out to be a murderer. 879 00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:55,720 And then just casually at his bachelor party was like, fine. 880 00:42:55,720 --> 00:42:57,400 Yeah, tired of covering for Sam. 881 00:42:57,400 --> 00:42:58,400 Let's go. 882 00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:00,240 You know, like no emotion about it. 883 00:43:00,240 --> 00:43:03,680 He was totally willing to just let Sam take the fall for it. 884 00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:08,400 But then it's almost like, like when he was confessing in the interrogation room, he keeps 885 00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:09,400 saying like, I'm crazy. 886 00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:10,400 I'm crazy. 887 00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:11,640 And he would like laugh. 888 00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:17,320 And I don't know if it's like maybe some hysteria that came on because of the anxiety he was 889 00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:25,520 feeling, but it was very much like he realized, I think in that moment, he was able to kind 890 00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:29,560 of put that guard down and just confess. 891 00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:31,600 And again, I compared him to Chris Watts. 892 00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:35,000 Chris Watts similarly did something like that. 893 00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:36,480 He lied and he lied and he lied. 894 00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:42,120 He was completely willing to blame Shanann for killing the children. 895 00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:46,240 And then when it became too much, came too much, came too much, he kind of just shut 896 00:43:46,240 --> 00:43:48,480 down and began to confess. 897 00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:50,000 And then he used to confess. 898 00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:51,800 And then it's almost like he never stopped confessing. 899 00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:52,800 Yeah. 900 00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:58,400 And after he was in jail, he was fine with giving, you know, FBI interviews detailing 901 00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:00,480 more and more of the crimes. 902 00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:04,000 And I mean, all the way down to like what the girls said and stuff. 903 00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:05,000 So I don't know. 904 00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:11,320 I don't know if there's like a, like you said, anti-social, but is it now I'm getting the 905 00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:15,200 response that I've wanted and therefore I'm going to keep confessing? 906 00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:16,200 I think so. 907 00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:19,440 I think it might be, well, I think it might be like both anti-social, maybe narcissistic 908 00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:24,720 as well because it's like, I've gotten all this attention now that I'm part of this, 909 00:44:24,720 --> 00:44:28,840 but I'm a victim in it and now that I'm not getting that attention and I'm getting eyeballs 910 00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:32,840 looked at me and I'm slowly starting to confess, now I'm getting more attention because I'm 911 00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:33,840 confessing a little bit. 912 00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:36,920 So I'm going to give them a little bit of time to keep relighting that candle. 913 00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:37,920 Yeah. 914 00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:41,000 And this giant confession is this big, you know, abundance of attention. 915 00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:42,000 Yeah. 916 00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:45,320 It's got to be like the ultimate like, oh my God, yes, they're really paying attention 917 00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:46,320 to me now. 918 00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:47,320 You know, yeah. 919 00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:48,320 Yeah. 920 00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:51,200 Yeah, I definitely think that's what Dan was going through when he started confessing. 921 00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:52,200 Dang. 922 00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:53,840 Well, that was a really good episode. 923 00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:54,840 Thanks. 924 00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:55,840 Thanks for bringing that. 925 00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:56,840 Yeah. 926 00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:57,840 You got anything else? 927 00:44:57,840 --> 00:44:58,840 That's it. 928 00:44:58,840 --> 00:44:59,840 All right. 929 00:44:59,840 --> 00:45:01,680 Well, we will see you guys on Monday with another mental breakdown. 930 00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:06,120 Go ahead and get your tickets for the True Crime and Paranormal Podcast Festival and be 931 00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:09,240 on the lookout for another case as well next week. 932 00:45:09,240 --> 00:45:10,240 Yeah. 933 00:45:10,240 --> 00:45:11,240 All right. 934 00:45:11,240 --> 00:45:12,240 Love you. 935 00:45:12,240 --> 00:45:13,240 Bye. 936 00:45:13,240 --> 00:45:14,240 Love you. 937 00:45:14,240 --> 00:45:15,240 Bye. 938 00:45:15,240 --> 00:45:21,720 You're probably already aware that craft beers have exploded in popularity over the past 939 00:45:21,720 --> 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