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Hello!

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Welcome back to another episode of diagnosing a killer.

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The mental breakdown.

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The mental breakdown.

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I'm Kena.

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The mental breakdown.

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I'm Koelle.

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She was not finished singing and I just totally started.

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It's cold.

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How is it going?

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It's going.

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It's fucking cold.

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You're right.

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This is like, oh my gosh, a school is like going to be a thing.

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Or is a thing full swing now?

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Yeah, it's been very busy, but I think we're doing a good job of preparing ourselves content-wise

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so that you guys aren't missing out on anything and we're just getting it done.

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New year, new us.

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It feels nice.

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It does feel nice to be prepared.

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To not have to worry for sure.

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Do you have any business before we get into this mental breakdown?

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I don't think so.

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I think by now we have caught up on all of our merch orders and all that stuff, so just

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looking forward to more orders.

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Yes, which is great.

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To continue to do you guys that merch and just keep looking at that.

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We're going to have new designs come out every once in a while when we have them and just

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keep updating yourselves on that to see if there's anything that catches your eye.

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Yeah.

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That's going to be content warning free, just a super gory, crazy, in-your-face episode,

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Unabhorrent.

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Yeah, exactly.

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Well, I think we are ready to go.

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Are you ready for this one?

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I'm ready.

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Content warning.

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Content warning also contains talk of negative idealizations of certain groups of people,

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suicide and assault.

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If this episode is not for you, we encourage you to find another one of our episodes.

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Remember, your mental health is extremely important and we love you.

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So usually I say the topic and then I get the content warning.

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So you still don't know.

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I'm really excited about this one.

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It's not necessarily, I mean, it is definitely a true crime related.

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Not so much psychology, but definitely kind of like, I like to use mental breakdowns sometimes.

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It's like a loophole to talk about something I think is super interesting.

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Right.

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So that I did this week.

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Okay.

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And today we are going to be talking about Alcatraz escapees.

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Yeah.

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Oh my God, I'm so excited for this.

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So I'm going to first go into the history of Alcatraz.

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Of course, if you are not familiar with it, I will let you know it is a small island off

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the coast of California, San Francisco, which is the east coast, I'm sorry, west coast of

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the United States.

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Wow, I'm already botched.

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I know, way to piss off Snoop Dogg.

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But we will be talking about a little bit of history so that if you're not familiar with

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it, you can get familiar before we start talking about the people that attempted to escape.

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I'm excited.

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Alcatraz Island is a small island about 1.25 miles offshore from San Francisco, California

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and the United States.

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The first European to document the island's existence was Spanish naval officer and explorer

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Juan Manuel de Ayala during the Spanish rule of California in 1775.

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He would name the island La Isla de los Alcatraz, which translates to the island of the Gannets,

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which is the type of seabird.

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Although this is the official translation, it's commonly believed that La Isla de los

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Alcatraz actually translates to the island of the Pelicans.

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Even though the modern Spanish translation of pelican is pelicano, however, the archaic

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Spanish word alcatraz directly translates to pelican.

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So it's kind of like, it's just like a, because it's been so long and then like translation,

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you know, a loss in translation kind of thing.

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Well an alcatraz is also a type of bird.

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I think so.

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It's also now known that there were no Gannets native to the Pacific coast, making the older

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Spanish word translation, or translation most likely, so pelican.

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Especially if that's the only word that he used to describe that type of bird, right?

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It might have been like, I don't know the word for this, so I'm going to say this because

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they're really similar, right?

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Because the Gannet, I actually looked it up, it's more similarly related to like a blue

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footed booby.

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So the Gannet is a word that's used in the English language, or the English language

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is a short word, like the really big ones.

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So over the years, the name alcatraz became popular and is now widely used.

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In August of 1827, French captain Augusta Bernard de Hautselie wrote, quote, running

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past Alcatraz's island covered with a countless number of these birds, a gun fired over the

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feathered lesions causing them to fly up in a great cloud with a noise like a hurricane,

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Gosh, so they just like popularized this island like really quickly and massively.

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But this makes me also think that they were pelicans because Gannets are again much smaller

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birds compared to pelicans.

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And pelicans wings are so big that it would make a lot of noise if they all took flight

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at the same time.

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The California brown pelican is not known to inhabit the island today as Spanish explorers

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built several small buildings on the island following the discovery of it, kind of like

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making them want to go elsewhere.

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In June of 1846, Mexican governor Pio Pico was known to have given Julian workmen the

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rights to the island with the understanding that he would build a lighthouse on it.

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Julian was the co-owner of Rancho La Puente and a personal friend of Governor Pico.

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Later that year, military governor of California, John C. Fremont would buy the island for $5,000

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US dollars, which would be the equivalent to almost $200,000 today.

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And put it in the name of the United States government.

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In 1850, President Millard Fillmore ordered that Alcatraz Island be set aside specifically

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as a US military reservation for military purposes following the Mexican-American war.

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John Fremont had expected a large compensation for his initiative in purchasing originally

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and securing Alcatraz Island as a US government-owned land, but the government later invalidated

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the sale and Fremont gained nothing monetarily.

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They were just like in Tsar's Now.

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Snooze you lose.

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And his heirs eventually sued for compensation in a battle that would go on for nearly 40

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years, but was ultimately unsuccessful.

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So like his children, his children's children, and his children's children's children were

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like, hey, not really that far.

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I was going to say it was only 40 years.

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But still they were like, yeah, sorry.

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He was just old at that point.

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Sucks to suck.

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That's awful.

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And again, how big is it?

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Because you're saying that it's for military barracks, right?

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Or originally it was supposed to be its purpose.

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So pretending like I just know this off the top of my head.

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It was about, what did I say, 22 acres, which equals about 16 American football fields,

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and about 89,000 meters for our listeners outside of America.

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That sounds like so many meters.

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Is there nothing bigger than a meter?

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I'm sure there is, but we don't go by the metric system.

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Wait, let's pause and look it up again.

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LOL, the word meters is in kilometers.

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89 kilometers.

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Thank you.

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And we say kilometers, not kilometers.

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Kilometers.

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I like aluminium.

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I also like urinal.

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Do you see that?

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Is it a urinal?

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Oh, man.

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I've heard Lisa Vanderpump say urinal.

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Urinal.

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Urinal.

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It sounds so nice when she says it.

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Sounds pretty.

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Urinal.

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So going back just one year in 1849, the US Army began studying the suitability of Alcatraz

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Island for the positioning of coastal barriers to protect the approaches to San Francisco

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Bay by enemies following the Treaty of Guadalupe Heldago, which ended the Mexican-American War.

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But they were still like, fuck, we got to prepare ourselves.

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It already had a lighthouse too at this point, right?

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No, not yet.

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I think this is that guy who built a lighthouse.

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He was supposed to.

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I'm pretty sure.

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And I don't think he either he did.

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I'm sorry.

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There's a lighthouse that comes in later.

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So I'm pretty sure he was planning on it and it just didn't get around to it.

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At some point there's a lighthouse.

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There's a lighthouse at some point, yes.

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But I think following the Mexican-American War ending, they were still like, okay, we're

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going to use this land to protect our military arsenal essentially and we just need protection

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around the coast.

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It makes sense because if it's further from the coast, they're able to see enemies coming

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in and alert the shore.

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Yes, okay.

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In 1853, under the direction of Zellis B. Tower, the US Army Corps of Engineers began

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fortifying the island, which would continue until 1858 when the initial version of Fort

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Alcatraz was completed.

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So they made a fourth there as well.

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About 200 soldiers would arrive there later that year to set up a protection location.

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When the American Civil War broke out in 1861, the island mounted 85 cannons around its

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perimeter and the island also served as a San Francisco arsenal for storage of firearms

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to prevent them from falling into the hands of enemies.

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Alcatraz, built as a, quote, heavily fortified military site on the west coast, end quote,

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was to form a, quote, triangle of defense, end quote, with fort point and lime point.

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But the contemplated work on lime point was never built, paving the way for a lighthouse

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to be built on Alcatraz.

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I see.

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Because they don't have vision of all three now.

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They only have two.

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So they're like, we need something to show us what's going on out there.

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During the war, fort Alcatraz was used to imprison Confederate sympathizers and privateers

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on the west coast.

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But the guns on the island were never fired at enemies.

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It was just as like a warning, like you said.

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And as an incarceration unit.

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Starting in 1863, the military also held private citizens accused of treason and hundreds of

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troops were trained on the island with more than 350 military personnel in place by April

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of 1861.

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So now it's like a base.

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Yeah.

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It's kind of incredible though, because even if they were holding, you know, prisoners

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of war, that they would have to boat their asses out there.

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And then, you know, I mean, I guess you just get left there, but then you're stuck on

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an island with prisoners of war.

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And I'll get into how unsafe it would be to try to leave that island, even if you could

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get to the shore.

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As new enlistees were assigned to units, new troops reported back for training.

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And early by 1865, the number of soldiers on the island reached about 433.

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During the Civil War, modernization efforts, including a plan to level the entire island

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and construct shell-proof underground magazines and tunnels were being talked about.

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What?

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Like, dope, right?

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That's insane!

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That's so much!

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I know.

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However, this would not be completed ever, and instead, the army switched back its focus

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for Alcatraz to be for detention rather than for defense.

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Okay.

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Because it's like banished them.

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I mean, like, obviously.

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Yeah, seriously.

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I mean, it's Australia all over again.

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Just really diming.

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In 1867, a brick jailhouse was built, and in 1868, Alcatraz was officially designated

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as a long-term detention facility for military prisoners.

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Although the people incarcerated at Alcatraz were Confederates caught on the West Coast

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and some Native American men in the 1870s who refused orders to send their children away

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from their families to, quote, Indian boarding schools, which are pretty much like they sound

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they were utilized to convert Native children into a more white way of living, quote unquote,

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which is terrible.

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Of course, families would not comply, and then they would be taken prisoner, which is

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fucked up.

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In 1989, due to the Spanish-American War, the prison population rose from 26 to over

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450.

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From 1905 to 1907, the prison was commanded by US Army General George W. McLeiver, and

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after the 1906 San Francisco earthquake, civilian prisoners were transferred to Alcatraz for

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safe confinement.

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Because the prison got fucked on the mainland.

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Yeah.

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So they were like, just ship them over there.

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Just ship them over there.

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Put them on a boat.

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On March 21, 1907, Alcatraz was officially designated as the Western US Military Prison,

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later Pacific Branch, US Disciplinary Barracks, 1915.

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In 1909, construction began on the huge concrete main cell block, designed by Major Rubin Turner,

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which remains the island's dominant feature.

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Still?

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Yes.

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It was completed in 1912, and to accommodate the new cell block, the three-story barracks

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was demolished down to the first floor.

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They actually had a basement level as well, which was considered the first floor.

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In the island?

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Yes.

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That's so strange.

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It's not weird.

293
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Because you don't just dig into the ocean.

294
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It's just like an iceberg, right?

295
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Yeah.

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Like, this is as much as you see on top, but underneath there's land.

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A lot more.

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And the building had been constructed in an excavated pit, creating a defensive dry moat

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also.

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So even harder to get off if you needed to leave.

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In 1934, the island was converted into a federal prison called Alcatraz, a federal

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penitentiary.

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So 1934 is the beginning of what we now know to be Alcatraz.

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Alcatraz today.

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Okay.

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Well, not really, but yes.

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The strong currents and ice cold water surrounding the island made it the perfect spot for a continuing

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prison, as it was nearly impossible to escape.

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Due to this, the prison quickly became one of the most notorious in American history.

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I say ice cold water, but the seasonal temperature in the San Francisco Bay is around 53 degrees

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Fahrenheit.

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Okay.

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So not like ice cold, but not hot, you know, pretty cold.

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It would be livable, but hypothermia would set it at some point, right?

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For sure, yeah.

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And the current can exceed six knots of force, excuse me.

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With these barriers and the fact that there were many razor sharp rocks and great white

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sharks spotted surrounding the prison, prison officers would highly discourage escape attempts

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by prisoners.

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Like, yeah, you probably don't want to do that, like I'm not saying this as your correctional

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officer.

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I'm saying this as your friend, as a person.

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Don't do that.

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Don't do that.

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You're going to.

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Don't do that.

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The first ever attempt to escape the prison was made on April 27th, 1936, just two years

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after Alcatraz became Alcatraz.

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By prisoner AZ210, Joseph Bowers, who was assigned the duty of burning trash at the

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incinerator.

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He was working burning garbage at the incinerator during duty hours when he suddenly ran and

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began scaling a chain link fence at the edge of the island.

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It's like I'm out of here.

334
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Attempting to make it to shore.

335
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Well, at this point, like you said, the prison's only two years old.

336
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He's probably like these dumbasses.

337
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Yeah.

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They put it like right on some water.

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I could just swim.

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Fucking hell.

341
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It's a dumb machine.

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It's just a dumb machine.

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It's a dumb island.

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When he was caught in the act of running, Joseph would refuse orders of the CEO yelling at

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him from the tower due to him ignoring the commands of the CEO.

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Joseph would be shot seriously injured and fell from the top of the fence where he was.

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Oh my God.

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He would ultimately die from his wounds.

349
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I fucking bet.

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Yeah.

351
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And they're probably not, I mean, you're on a fucking island.

352
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I guess they have an informatory.

353
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Kick him into the water.

354
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I'm sorry.

355
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It's not funny.

356
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Of course, nobody saw that.

357
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But can I start making a kicking motion?

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Get out of here.

359
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Get out of here.

360
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Get out of here.

361
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No, that's terrible.

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But yeah, of course, they would have an informatory, but if you needed like real help, a boat is

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forever away.

364
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The way for the boat to get there.

365
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Well, it's a dad farm.

366
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It's like a mile, not even a mile and a half.

367
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Yeah, but this is 1936.

368
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It might as well be 1836.

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You got to wait for quotes to where Columbus can pick your ass up.

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So this incident termed Bowers quote, desperate escape, end quote, was deemed by inmates

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to have either been an actual escaped attempt, escape attempt, a deliberate suicide, an attempt

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to climb up and grab garbage wedged in the fence, or an attempt to climb the fence to

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feed a seagull.

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The last one doesn't seem very feasible.

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Feeding an alcatraz or whatever that thing was called.

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Some inmates believe that this was an attempted suicide due to the fact that Joseph had previously

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made multiple attempts and was deemed by other prisoners to be criminally insane.

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So he was probably like, but like, okay, so if I make it over this fence, I'm at least

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throwing myself into this frigid water or, you know, presumed frigid water, or I'm going

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to get shot before I reach there.

381
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Exactly.

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Whatever the intention was by Bowers, it was indisputable that he ignored the commands

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of the correction officer and kept climbing the fence even after warning shots were fired.

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Oh my gosh.

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So even if his mindset when he was leaving was I'm going to grab some trash.

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Yeah, like it's like they told him to stop and he didn't.

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So that makes sense as to why he would fall in so far because he was really high up the

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fence when they shot him.

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On December 16th, 1937, prisoners Az 258 and Az 260, Theodore Cole and Ralph Rowe had

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gradually filed through iron bars in the prison's mat shop and escaped on a very foggy day.

391
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Damn, that's so boss though.

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I love like Andy Dufresne.

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Yeah, that's a hero story.

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It's terrible.

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Because it was so foggy this prevented the two men from being seen by guards in the watch

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towers.

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The two jumped off the island and into the water and were never seen again.

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Never seen again.

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The treacherous waters and severe weather at the time led people to believe that the two

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had drowned in the bay and their bodies were swept out to sea.

401
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However, they were subsequently listed as number one and number two on the FBI's most

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wanted list because of this.

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Never found them at all.

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So it's either them or another case that you're probably going to touch on that there's a

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possibility that they actually escaped.

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So yes, I will talk about that.

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That's towards the end.

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So I will say just spoiler alert, no one has ever been officially labeled escaped from

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Alcatraz.

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Wow.

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There's no evidence that anyone escaped successfully from Alcatraz ever.

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On May 23rd, 1938, prisoners Az263 and Az335 and Az224, Rufus Franklin, Thomas R. Limerick,

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and James C. Lucas attacked and killed a guard named Royal Klein with a claw hammer in the

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woodwork shop.

415
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Oh, that's fucked up.

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Terrible.

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Also, this is like one every year, like one attempt every year.

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Yeah, and it seems like they're like kind of learning from like past failed attempts,

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which is awful.

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The three proceeded to the roof where an armed guard shot Rufus Franklin and Thomas Limerick,

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who both ultimately died.

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James Lucas was eventually cornered by guards and would surrender.

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A few years prior to this escape attempt on June 23rd, 1936, James Lucas was also known

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to have attacked Al Capone in the prison's laundry room.

434
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What?

435
00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:43,080
So this guy was not fucking around?

436
00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:44,080
No, he wasn't.

437
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I don't know any more details about that.

438
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Oh.

439
00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:47,480
I just thought that was interesting.

440
00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:48,480
That is interesting.

441
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On January 13th, 1939, Arthur or Doc Barker, William Martin, Rufus McCain, Henry Young,

442
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I guess that was Henry Young that made that noise.

443
00:19:58,600 --> 00:19:59,600
That was crazy.

444
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I had to stop because I heard something.

445
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I was like, what the hell?

446
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And then he opened up the door, like the bedroom door, and we checked on no one who was there.

447
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Nope.

448
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Kenan was even like, but where you at?

449
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And then nothing happened.

450
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Nothing.

451
00:20:11,120 --> 00:20:12,120
Cute.

452
00:20:12,120 --> 00:20:13,120
Okay.

453
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So I'm going to repeat those names.

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Arthur, Doc Barker, William Martin, Rufus McCain, Henry Young, and Dale Stamp Hill, who

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were inmates of the prison's more secure unit, the D Block, they all escaped the cellhouse

456
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and reached the Alcatraz Shore.

457
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So they got all the way to the end.

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As they were putting a makeshift raft together, they were spotted by a guard and fired upon

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immediately.

460
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Doc Barker was killed on site while Dale Stamp Hill was wounded, and the others were

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captured and sent to solitary confinement.

462
00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:39,400
Why am I rooting for these guys?

463
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Oh, damn, they got caught.

464
00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:42,960
Oh, no, he was shot.

465
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I mean, they're here because they're like really bad people.

466
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So true.

467
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On May 21st, 1941, Joe Kretzer, Sam Shockley, Arnold Kyle, and Lloyd Barkdahl were working

468
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in the industry's area when they ambushed the guards on duty and attempted to saw through

469
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window bars to reach the shore.

470
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The bars were tool-proof, however, and their attempt at escaping became foiled when they

471
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realized this.

472
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So it's like, did they replace all the bars after those other two files down the bars?

473
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That's interesting.

474
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So it's Alcatraz is learning as well.

475
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Exactly.

476
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Both Joe Kretzer and Sam Shockley would attempt to escape again later in the Battle of Alcatraz.

477
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And we'll talk about this in a minute.

478
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The Battle of Alcatraz?

479
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On September 15th, 1941, John Richard Bayless was working in the garbage detail on Alcatraz

480
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and managed to elude the guards reaching the shore.

481
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He would jump into the water and try swimming to San Francisco, but would ultimately give

482
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up and return to shore.

483
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He's like, you know what, it's not going to work.

484
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Can you just give me back inside please?

485
00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:43,520
Never mind, I'm cold.

486
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I'm hungry.

487
00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:50,680
On April 14th, 1943, James Borman, Harold Martin-Brest, Floyd Garland Hamilton, and

488
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Fred John Hunter managed to cut window bars in the industry's mat shop without being noticed.

489
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That's four of them?

490
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Yes.

491
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That's one too many, in my opinion.

492
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I feel like three is pushing it, but a group of them?

493
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Fuck off.

494
00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:03,680
Yeah, you're going to make it more obvious.

495
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You go ahead and do that and I'll sneak out the back.

496
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The men were able to assemble four cans that contained army uniforms and would double as

497
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flotation devices like the cans.

498
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Then they would overpower two guards, bind and gag them, and escape out the window.

499
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During this time, the four men would leave behind two of the four cans.

500
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I guess they were just trying to leave so fast.

501
00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:27,680
Now they are getting to shore and only two of them have flotation devices.

502
00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:31,360
One of the attacked guards managed to get his whistle loose while the other guard managed

503
00:22:31,360 --> 00:22:34,880
to get his hands free, enabling him to blow the whistle that was free.

504
00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:35,880
That's kind of cool.

505
00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:36,880
That's cute.

506
00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:40,120
Back in the day, they're like bobbies.

507
00:22:40,120 --> 00:22:44,360
All they do is just blow whistles at people.

508
00:22:44,360 --> 00:22:49,080
This whistle-blowing alerted the tower guards who then opened fire on the men running.

509
00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:53,240
James Borman would be shot and begin floating in the water unconscious but supported by

510
00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:55,000
Harold Brest.

511
00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:59,240
As Brest was recovered by guards, Borman would be let go of and ultimately sink into the

512
00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:01,840
bay, never to be seen again.

513
00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:05,440
Fred Hunter, who had injured his back and hands during the escape attempt, gave up

514
00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:08,680
swimming and sought refuge in a nearby cave.

515
00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:12,400
He would be discovered two hours later when guards saw blood stains on the outside of

516
00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:16,880
the cave and fired a warning shot into the cave to entice him to come out.

517
00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:17,880
Oh yeah, totally.

518
00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:19,600
I was like, oh yeah, let me run towards you.

519
00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:21,480
Well, they're like, next one's in your fucking scalp.

520
00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:23,480
You know what I mean?

521
00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:25,400
He's probably like, yeah.

522
00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:28,600
He would surrender himself and return to the prison.

523
00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:32,960
Floyd Hamilton was wrongly assumed by guards to have been hit by gunfire and sunk, similarly

524
00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:37,480
to Borman, but he had actually been hiding in the same cave as Fred Hunter, under a

525
00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:39,400
pile of tires.

526
00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:44,080
Two days later, he would climb back up the same cliff that he had jumped off of and find

527
00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:47,440
his way back to the window he had escaped from.

528
00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:51,920
Being under a pile of materials in the storeroom, he's like, I'm cold.

529
00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:56,200
He would be found there the next morning and just continue to be at the prison.

530
00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:57,200
Totally didn't escape.

531
00:23:57,200 --> 00:23:58,200
I've been here this whole time.

532
00:23:58,200 --> 00:23:59,200
I don't know what you're talking about.

533
00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:01,360
They're like, you smell like seaweed and piss.

534
00:24:01,360 --> 00:24:02,360
Exactly, though.

535
00:24:02,360 --> 00:24:04,480
That's probably what he was thinking, like if they don't know that I left.

536
00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:07,800
They're like, we literally saw you in the water.

537
00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:08,800
We saw you.

538
00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:09,800
We thought you were dead.

539
00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:12,880
That's the only reason we didn't try to recover your body.

540
00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:13,880
Right.

541
00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:18,480
Here on Ted Walters, who was serving a sentence of 30 years for robbery, assault, and auto

542
00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:22,840
theft, had noticed that on the weekends fewer guards were on duty.

543
00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:26,560
He also noticed that their attention tended to be focused on the wreckyard rather than

544
00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:28,120
inside.

545
00:24:28,120 --> 00:24:32,560
He would take advantage of the situation on August 7th, 1943, and slip out of the new

546
00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:36,320
industry's building where he was working in the laundry room.

547
00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:40,640
His plan was to cut through two security fences that separated him from freedom, make his

548
00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:44,120
way to the water, and swim to San Francisco.

549
00:24:44,120 --> 00:24:48,000
His plan would quickly go sideways when the wire cutters he smuggled with him failed to

550
00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:49,000
work.

551
00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:52,640
He would end up climbing up both fences, but fell from the second fence, injuring his

552
00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:54,240
back.

553
00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:58,040
Although Huron would make it to the shore, he was unable to go any further due to his

554
00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:02,480
injury, and he would be picked up by Captain of the Guards, Henry Weinholt, and the Associate

555
00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:04,760
Warden, E.J. Miller.

556
00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:07,840
Huron would be returned to the cell house where he spent some time in the hospital and

557
00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:10,000
then was thrown in solitary confinement.

558
00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:14,360
And then he was thrown back out to the shore.

559
00:25:14,360 --> 00:25:20,080
On July 31st, 1945, John K. Giles, a prison worker, managed to assemble a U.S. Army's

560
00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:23,760
Technical Surgeon's uniform, most likely from stealing pieces of garments that were sent

561
00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:25,560
to be cleaned, like one at a time.

562
00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:28,200
And I say prison worker, but he was a prisoner.

563
00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:31,920
And he actually boarded a ferry that provided service between government facilities and

564
00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:36,360
San Francisco Bay with his army fatigues, like he looked like one of the guys.

565
00:25:36,360 --> 00:25:39,480
I think this is like the smartest one on the whole of them.

566
00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:44,280
Shortly after the ferry's departure for Angel Island, headcount on Alcatraz came up short.

567
00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:48,400
They would relay the information to the ferry who searched the boat and came across John,

568
00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:50,320
returning him to Alcatraz.

569
00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:53,760
Imagine that, like, he's like, God, I was so close, like I was right there.

570
00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:54,760
So close.

571
00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:55,760
Fuck.

572
00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:56,760
That 23-year-old happened.

573
00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:57,760
Don't feel sorry for him.

574
00:25:57,760 --> 00:25:58,760
They're prisoners.

575
00:25:58,760 --> 00:25:59,760
They're bad people.

576
00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:00,760
But what did they do, though?

577
00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:01,760
But like, what did they do?

578
00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:02,760
Probably murder.

579
00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:03,760
Probably murder.

580
00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:09,080
Perhaps the most violent and infamous escape attempt from Alcatraz came in May of 1946,

581
00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:12,320
in the form of the Battle of Alcatraz.

582
00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:17,120
From May 2nd to May 4th, six prisoners would attempt to escape the island.

583
00:26:17,120 --> 00:26:20,240
This was also known as the Alcatraz blastout.

584
00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:26,120
The six prisoners involved in the escape were Bernard Coy, Clarence Carnes, Marvin Hubbard,

585
00:26:26,120 --> 00:26:30,120
Myron Thompson, Joseph Kretzer, and Sam Shockley.

586
00:26:30,120 --> 00:26:31,400
So the guys from earlier.

587
00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:32,400
From earlier.

588
00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:33,400
Yes.

589
00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:37,600
The men took control of the cell house by overpowering COs and were able to enter the weapons room,

590
00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:39,640
maintaining keys to the right-yard door in the process.

591
00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:40,840
Oh, that's a big goof.

592
00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:41,840
Oh, yeah.

593
00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:44,680
That's just like, I mean, it's just one guy that has all those keys.

594
00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:45,680
You're right.

595
00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:47,360
They probably all have a key, right?

596
00:26:47,360 --> 00:26:51,200
The men's goal was to escape via boat, but they failed to obtain the keys to the outside

597
00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:53,640
door, so they decided to battle it out with the guards.

598
00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:56,440
So now they're in between the right door and the outside door, and the guards are like

599
00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:57,440
inside.

600
00:26:57,440 --> 00:26:58,440
They're like, come on, motherfucker.

601
00:26:58,440 --> 00:26:59,760
Like Sallyport type stuff?

602
00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:02,280
Or like, you know, Sallyport's like the in-between.

603
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:03,280
Yeah, kind of.

604
00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:04,280
Yeah.

605
00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:05,280
That's what it seems like.

606
00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:10,000
The fight would ensue, and the men managed to hold two COs hostage during this time, whom

607
00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:12,720
they eventually killed after two days of holding them hostage.

608
00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:13,960
Oh my god.

609
00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:18,400
The hostages were killed by Joseph Kretzer after Sam Shockley and Mirren Thompson encouraged

610
00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:19,760
him to kill them.

611
00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:22,640
And it said that it was point blank, which is really sad.

612
00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:24,160
Well, hopefully it was quick.

613
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:28,120
One of the guards by the name of William Miller would succumb to his injuries almost immediately.

614
00:27:28,120 --> 00:27:31,920
With the second guard, Harold Stites would ultimately be killed in the cell house by

615
00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:33,560
friendly fire from the outside.

616
00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:34,560
What?

617
00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:38,240
I don't know if he would have lived or not, but he got additionally wounded by his own

618
00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:39,240
men, unfortunately.

619
00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:40,960
Oh my god.

620
00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:44,920
Following this shootout, Shockley, Thompson, and Carnes would return to their cells, and

621
00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:49,600
the other three, Koi, Kretzer, and Hubbard, would persist with their fight.

622
00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:53,320
The US Marines would intervene to help the COs and would kill the three men who stayed

623
00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:54,880
behind.

624
00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:59,400
In this battle, apart from the guards and prisoners killed, 17 other guards and one prisoner were

625
00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:00,840
also injured.

626
00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:05,160
Shockley, Thompson, and Carnes were tried for the killings of the COs, and Shockley and

627
00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:07,360
Thompson were sentenced to death through gas chamber.

628
00:28:07,360 --> 00:28:08,360
That's what I was going to ask.

629
00:28:08,360 --> 00:28:13,040
I'd be like, yeah, you returned to your cells at certain points or whatever, and you're

630
00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:16,120
like, oh yeah, but you've already done enough damage.

631
00:28:16,120 --> 00:28:17,120
Exactly, yeah.

632
00:28:17,120 --> 00:28:18,120
On some of those.

633
00:28:18,120 --> 00:28:21,560
And so I was wondering, did some of them get tried with murder?

634
00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:22,560
Yeah.

635
00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:23,920
Of course, rescindence.

636
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:28,640
So there was actually no death row at Alcatraz, so this would actually be carried out at San

637
00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:31,000
Quentin in December of 1948.

638
00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:33,440
And I'll talk more about that a little bit later.

639
00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:35,480
But it's all essentially gen pop right now?

640
00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:36,960
They're all just, it's general population.

641
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:38,520
Unless you're in the military, yeah.

642
00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:39,520
Oh my gosh.

643
00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:40,520
Yeah.

644
00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:44,080
Carnes, who was only 19 years old at the time of this battle, was given an additional life

645
00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:46,280
sentence.

646
00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:51,280
On July 23rd, 1956, prisoner Floyd Wilson disappeared from his job at the dock, but

647
00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:56,520
was discovered after hiding for 12 hours among large rocks on the shoreline.

648
00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:58,840
He had given up his plan to make a raft out of driftwood.

649
00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:00,640
He's like, you know what, this is too hard.

650
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:02,880
It's cold and it's wet.

651
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:04,720
And that's what a lot of people, I feel like, realized.

652
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:09,600
They're like, oh shit, this is not as easy as I thought it was going to be to get out

653
00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:11,600
of here.

654
00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:14,960
Prisoners Aaron Burgett and Clyde Johnson were working on the garbage detail when they

655
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:19,320
both overpowered a guard on September 29th, 1958.

656
00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:23,160
They would both jump into the water attempting to swim off the island.

657
00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:27,720
The two men attempted to use inflated plastic bags as flotation devices and wooden boards

658
00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:28,720
as flippers.

659
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:29,720
What?

660
00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:32,720
They tied them to their feet.

661
00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:36,080
I don't know why that's so funny.

662
00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:39,480
I feel like it's like floaties and two wooden bars.

663
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:41,680
They tied plastic bags to their arms.

664
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:44,320
That's so silly.

665
00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:49,360
A police launch would intercept Clyde Johnson, but Aaron Burger disappeared.

666
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:52,960
He would die in his escape attempt and his body would be found floating in the bay near

667
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:55,480
Alcatraz two weeks later.

668
00:29:55,480 --> 00:30:02,040
On June 11th, 1962, Frank Morris, John Anglin, and Clarence Anglin would successfully carry

669
00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:05,040
out one of the most intricate escapes ever devised.

670
00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:06,040
Oh, okay.

671
00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:07,040
This is it.

672
00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:08,040
I'm excited.

673
00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:09,040
I'm excited.

674
00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:10,040
I'm excited.

675
00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:11,040
I don't remember a lot from it.

676
00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:12,040
I just remember seeing something on History Channel.

677
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:13,040
Yeah.

678
00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:18,720
Behind the prisoner's cell in Cellblock C was an unguarded, three-foot-wide utility corridor.

679
00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:22,520
The prisoners would chisel away the concrete that was damaged by moisture, giving way for

680
00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:26,120
it to be softer, using tools like metal spoons and forks.

681
00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:31,800
They had also somehow gotten access to an electric drill made from a stolen vacuum cleaner motor.

682
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:32,800
I don't know how.

683
00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:33,800
What?

684
00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:35,240
And of course, this was noisy, right?

685
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:39,840
The noise of this was disguised by accordions that prisoners played during their music hour,

686
00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:44,000
which is actually like an hour and a half, and their progress into the tunnel was concealed

687
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:46,000
by false walls.

688
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:49,800
You really couldn't see it, especially in the dark, until the prisoners just didn't

689
00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:51,400
really know.

690
00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:55,240
This escape route then led through an air vent, a shaft large enough for the men to climb

691
00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:56,760
through.

692
00:30:56,760 --> 00:31:01,440
The men were able to gain access to over 50 rubber raincoats from other inmates they would

693
00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:04,080
plan to use as their flotation devices.

694
00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:05,080
Raincoats?

695
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:06,080
Yes.

696
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:07,080
Right?

697
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:08,080
Okay.

698
00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:12,280
The men would also all make papier-mache heads of themselves and leave them in their cell

699
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:13,760
bunks, like in their beds.

700
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:15,760
It looked like they were there.

701
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:16,760
That sounds haunting.

702
00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:17,760
Right?

703
00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:18,760
And there's a picture of one online.

704
00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:20,560
It's like really creepy.

705
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:25,360
They would put these heads in their bed before escaping through a vent in the roof and departing

706
00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:27,040
Alcatraz.

707
00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:33,440
An official investigation from the FBI launched immediately from 1962 and lasted until December

708
00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:36,440
1979 when they finally closed it.

709
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:40,360
They were just like, it's an open case and then hopefully we'll find them and then they

710
00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:41,360
just never did it?

711
00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:42,360
Yeah.

712
00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:46,000
The official report on the escape from the FBI is that the prisoners all drown in the

713
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:49,400
cold bay water while trying to reach the mainland.

714
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:53,360
The FBI states that it is highly unlikely that the men would have been able to make the

715
00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:56,200
1.25 mile swim to shore.

716
00:31:56,200 --> 00:32:01,600
The US-US Marshall Service, however, their case still remains open and active.

717
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:05,240
Morris and the Anglin brothers remain on the wanted list for this department.

718
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:06,240
What?

719
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:11,200
Circumstantial evidence uncovered in the early 2010s seems to suggest that the men had survived

720
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:15,800
and that contrary to what the FBI stated about rafts never being recovered, that rafts were

721
00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:19,600
in fact found nearby Angel Island with footprints leading away.

722
00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:20,600
What?

723
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:22,280
Like the raincoat rafts were never recovered.

724
00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:23,280
Yeah.

725
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:24,280
I was like, oh, rafts were never recovered.

726
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:26,280
And then there was circumstantial evidence that were like made of paper.

727
00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:27,280
But we found 50 raincoats.

728
00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:28,280
That's a little rough.

729
00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:32,880
It's not a rough, it's raincoats, duh.

730
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:37,720
On top of this, a car had been reported stolen on the night of the escape by three men in

731
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:38,720
the area.

732
00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:40,520
I didn't know any of this.

733
00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:43,120
Oh my gosh, this is exciting.

734
00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:47,040
Because of the Anglin brothers presented further circumstantial evidence in support of a rumor

735
00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:51,080
that the Anglin brothers had fled to Brazil following their escape.

736
00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:55,480
A facial recognition analysis of a photograph proposed to be of John and Clarence in Brazil

737
00:32:55,480 --> 00:33:00,840
in 1975, 13 years after their escape concluded that it was not them.

738
00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:01,840
Bummer.

739
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:02,840
I know, right?

740
00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:04,840
Again, we're here rooting for the murders.

741
00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:08,040
I personally think that they didn't make it, but it's just me.

742
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:09,040
I don't know.

743
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:11,080
I'd like to think somewhere out there.

744
00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:12,080
Right.

745
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:15,520
I thought that these guys are Andy Dufresne, but that an Andy Dufresne exists somewhere.

746
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:16,520
Yeah, maybe.

747
00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:19,440
As long as they're not hurting anyone else, which they probably are.

748
00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:21,960
Yeah, hopefully they're not hurting anyone else.

749
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:28,040
Finally, on December 16, 1962, John Paul Scott and Daryl Lee Parker would become the last

750
00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:30,760
two prisoners to attempt to escape from Alcatraz.

751
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:31,760
In what year?

752
00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:32,760
62.

753
00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:33,760
62, wow.

754
00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:37,200
The men used a makeshift saw to cut through the bars on a kitchen window in the cell

755
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:41,960
house before running to the edge of the island and jumping into the water.

756
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:46,640
Daryl Parker would be found alive 81 yards from the main island on the rock formation

757
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:52,360
named Little Alcatraz, while John Scott would reach Fort Point beneath the Golden Gate Bridge,

758
00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:56,080
where he was found by teenagers suffering from exhaustion and hypothermia.

759
00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:57,080
Oh my gosh.

760
00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:58,080
The teenagers weren't suffering.

761
00:33:58,080 --> 00:33:59,080
The teenagers weren't suffering.

762
00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:00,080
He was suffering, sorry.

763
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:01,440
I'm sorry, the teenagers are him.

764
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:05,280
But the fact that he was found by teenagers is crazy because I'm like, he was that close

765
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:06,280
to the mainland.

766
00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:09,360
Like these teenagers might have been exploring a little bit farther away, but he's under

767
00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:10,360
the Golden Gate Bridge.

768
00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:11,360
Yeah.

769
00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:14,080
Oh, Mr. Mr. Are you okay?

770
00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:15,080
Yeah.

771
00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:17,360
Oh, I, you know, take my coat, take my whatever.

772
00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:18,360
Yeah.

773
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:19,360
Oh my gosh.

774
00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:22,800
After recovering in Letterman General Hospital, he would be returned to Alcatraz.

775
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:25,280
They're like, he wouldn't fucking stay in here with the fuckers.

776
00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:26,280
Sorry, bro.

777
00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:31,080
This is the only proven case of an Alcatraz inmate reaching the shore by swimming, which

778
00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:32,080
is interesting.

779
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:33,080
And that's 1962.

780
00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:34,080
Yes.

781
00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:35,680
And get this.

782
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:40,200
The Alcatraz Fort Point route that they took from Alcatraz to Fort Point is now part

783
00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:43,640
of two annual triathlon events.

784
00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:46,400
People swim this on purpose now.

785
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:47,400
What?

786
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:51,200
Proving that it's possible.

787
00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:52,200
Exactly.

788
00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:53,200
Exactly.

789
00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:54,200
Every day.

790
00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:55,200
Every day.

791
00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:56,200
Yeah.

792
00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:58,080
What's, I mean, one dude could just like hop out and just start swimming with everyone

793
00:34:58,080 --> 00:34:59,080
else.

794
00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:00,080
No, really.

795
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:01,080
Like it's just, isn't that wild?

796
00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:03,040
I'm like, why would you do that on purpose?

797
00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:05,320
One guy without goggles and a wetsuit, but still.

798
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:07,040
It's like he might be a prisoner.

799
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:08,560
He's wearing black and white.

800
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:14,640
On March 21st, 1963, Alcatraz would close its doors after 29 years of operation.

801
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:18,280
Contrary to popular relief, the prison did not close due to the escape of Morris and

802
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:23,080
the Anglin brothers, but because the institution was just too expensive to continue operation.

803
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:24,840
So it's no longer a prison.

804
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:26,440
As of what year?

805
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:27,440
63.

806
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:28,440
Oh, yeah.

807
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:29,440
So it hasn't been a prison for a very long time.

808
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:30,440
I didn't know that.

809
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:31,800
I have some fun facts.

810
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:35,480
That's pretty much the end of all the escapies, but I have some fun facts if you want to know.

811
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:36,480
More fun facts.

812
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:37,480
Yes, more.

813
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:41,880
So, number one, the gardens of Alcatraz are a well-known part of the prison, but not many

814
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:46,160
people know that they were actually started by the officers who initially worked there.

815
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:48,320
So the officers like planted and made these gardens look pretty.

816
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:49,320
It was like kind of nice, right?

817
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:50,920
Because they spent so much time there, you know?

818
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:51,920
Yeah, of course.

819
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:53,200
They wanted to look at something pretty.

820
00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:57,680
Due to the harsh barren landscape, particularly hard plants were chosen, and today they are

821
00:35:57,680 --> 00:35:59,560
maintained by the National Park Service.

822
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:02,080
That's so cute, right?

823
00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:06,200
Number two, families used to live on Alcatraz Island.

824
00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:10,080
Due to the fact that being a prison officer was such a full-on job, wives and children

825
00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:12,400
of the COs sometimes lived on the island too.

826
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:13,400
I believe that.

827
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:16,040
Resulting in several children growing up there.

828
00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:19,680
There's actually an alumni association for children that grew up there that exist today,

829
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:21,920
so people can chat and talk about their lives.

830
00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:25,440
See, and that's what's interesting is like, I said it earlier in the beginning of the

831
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:27,920
episode, it's just Australia.

832
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:30,240
Yeah, I mean, kind of.

833
00:36:30,240 --> 00:36:33,040
They used to send prisoners there right at the beginning, and now it's like inhabited.

834
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:34,040
Yeah.

835
00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:35,040
For sure.

836
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:36,760
Yeah, for sure.

837
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:39,000
You know, hundreds of years.

838
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:42,560
Number three, like I said earlier, there was no death row on Alcatraz.

839
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:46,160
There were actually just no facilities for executions, and no prisoner was ever put to

840
00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:50,840
death there, although some did die naturally there during their sentence.

841
00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:56,040
Number four, prisoners were noted as requesting transfers to Alcatraz.

842
00:36:56,040 --> 00:37:00,720
Due to the prison having single-cell occupancy, unlike other prisons close by, and apparently

843
00:37:00,720 --> 00:37:05,080
high-quality food, prisoners in other facilities were known to have asked for transfers there.

844
00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:06,080
It's like a Marriott.

845
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:08,240
Yeah, they're like, I have to share the fucking cell with this motherfucker?

846
00:37:08,240 --> 00:37:11,120
Like, no, I'm gonna get some Alcatraz even myself.

847
00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:13,560
Plus Alcapones there.

848
00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:15,840
And lastly, Alcatraz was never full.

849
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:20,440
The highest number of prisoners ever reported to be incarcerated there was 320, but the

850
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:26,520
average usually stood around 260, and the fewest number I could find was 222.

851
00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:28,440
So yeah, it was just never a full prison.

852
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:29,440
That's gonna be nice.

853
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:30,440
That's it, though.

854
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:33,440
It was a huge giant mental breakdown, but I think it was really interesting.

855
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:36,400
It's like a history lesson wrapped into true crime.

856
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:39,560
Right, something a little different, and honestly, I could have gone through every

857
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:42,760
single person and what they did, but it would have made like for like a two-hour episode.

858
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:44,720
I was like, I don't know if I want to do all that.

859
00:37:44,720 --> 00:37:45,720
They're all murderers.

860
00:37:45,720 --> 00:37:46,720
But yeah, you can look it up.

861
00:37:46,720 --> 00:37:51,320
I mean, I got literally all my information in one spot, and you can find a lot of stuff

862
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:52,320
on there, but...

863
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:53,320
That's interesting.

864
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:55,440
Yeah, they still do tours and stuff.

865
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:56,440
Yeah, I'm sure they do.

866
00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:58,440
I mean, I don't think I would want to go there.

867
00:37:58,440 --> 00:37:59,440
No?

868
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:00,440
I would love to.

869
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:02,120
I'm sorry, Great White Sharks around in the area.

870
00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:03,880
I'm not gonna go there in a teeny boat.

871
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:05,880
It's not gonna be a teeny boat?

872
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:07,840
I've been on a boat and I've seen sharks.

873
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:09,840
There's fairies, because that one guy.

874
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:10,840
That's true.

875
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:11,840
Yeah, that's true.

876
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:12,840
I don't know, maybe.

877
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:13,840
I think it'd be fun.

878
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:17,040
I'm like, I'm not really crazy about islands, but I go to islands all the time, so I don't

879
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:19,040
know why I wouldn't be crazy about them.

880
00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:21,440
It's 16 American football field sizes.

881
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:22,440
That's true.

882
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:23,440
It's pretty big.

883
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:24,440
I have to think about it.

884
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:28,560
And then, I mean, clearly the prison is just one part of it.

885
00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:29,560
Yeah, that's true.

886
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:30,560
Would you guys go to Alcatraz?

887
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:31,560
Tell us.

888
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:32,560
Tell us.

889
00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:33,560
Send us an email.

890
00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:34,560
Tell us in the comments.

891
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:38,880
But yeah, that's all I have for today, and I can check that one off my list, because

892
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:42,360
every time I think of a new mental breakdown idea, I write it down in my notes, and then

893
00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:45,560
I'm glad I do, because I saw it today and I was like, oh, okay, I forgot I did that one.

894
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:52,000
Yeah, so you guys have maybe a location that deals with true crime that you find is interesting.

895
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:54,680
I know we did Cecil Hotel once.

896
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:56,120
That would be kind of cool.

897
00:38:56,120 --> 00:39:00,520
If you guys would like to hear more about location content on mental breakdowns, of

898
00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:02,800
course, not in lieu of a case.

899
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:04,480
But yeah, that would be interesting.

900
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:06,080
Yeah, keep giving us your ideas.

901
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:10,880
Like I said, this is a cool opportunity, I think, for us to, I say loophole, but either

902
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:12,360
way, we're going to do what we want to do.

903
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:13,360
Yeah.

904
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:17,720
But to talk about things that are just interesting to us, it doesn't always have to be a psychology

905
00:39:17,720 --> 00:39:20,560
diagnosis or an experiment.

906
00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:21,560
Exactly.

907
00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:22,840
Yeah, something like this, I think, is really cool.

908
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:25,360
And of course, it ties right into what we talk about.

909
00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:27,600
Tell us about your famous true crime place.

910
00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:28,600
There you go.

911
00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:29,600
Whatever country you're in.

912
00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:32,600
Or tell us your stories and we'll do a mental breakdown with people's personal stories.

913
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:33,600
Ooh, I would love to do that.

914
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:34,600
That would be cool.

915
00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:35,600
Do a compilation of like write-ins.

916
00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:36,600
The mental breakdown members only.

917
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:37,600
That's cool.

918
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:38,600
Just coined it.

919
00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:42,120
All right, well, we will see you guys next time.

920
00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:43,360
Yeah, love you.

921
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:44,360
Love you.

922
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:45,360
Bye.

923
00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:46,360
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