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Today we are going to be talking about eight different psychological phenomena.
Ooh.
Phenomenon.
We looked it up.
It's phenomena or phenomenon.
I might switch in between.
Phenomenons.
Multiple phenomena.
Gosh.
Phenomenons.
We're never going to know.
It's fine.
So again, eight but we're going to start with number one.
Number one.
Reverse psychology.
Ooh.
Right?
I use this all the time.
So reverse psychology also referred to as psychological reactance or strategic self-anticonformity.
Is when an individual attempts to restore a perceived loss of freedom or choice.
When someone's like, what are you trying to do to me?
I'm just practicing, what is it, anti-self-conceived authority?
Yeah, it's strategic self-anticonformity.
That's exactly what I just said.
So this type of psychological theory typically works on those who are resistant by nature,
so opposite of those who are typically compliant.
Yeah.
Because they want to be rebellious, right?
We usually hear about reverse psychology as a negative, but it can also be used in psychology
and therapy as a very helpful tool.
Yeah, absolutely.
The technique of the paradoxical intervention has also been called the anti-subgestion.
So some therapists can frame their message that a resistance promotes change.
Interventions like these can have a similar impact as humor and helping clients cast their
problems in a new light.
So it's like by a different perspective, essentially.
So by going with and not against the client's resistance, the therapist can actually make
the behavior less attractive to the individual, which is interesting.
Well, like we say, it's really hard to see something when you're so close to it.
And then if you bring yourself away from it, or once you are removed from the situation,
you can really see it more clearly.
I think it's kind of like the similar.
Yeah, it's reframing, essentially.
This means that pretending to agree with clients' thoughts and beliefs and reaffirming them
out loud to make them realize their fallibility would also be a helpful tool.
We also regularly see examples of it in marketing as well, like continuing to dangle a product
in front of our face or make the item more exclusive because we want what we can't have.
It's like I just wrote bugs bunny because it reminds me of the like where it's like,
yes, no, yes, no, no, yes, no, yes.
So yeah, again, these are just going to be little tiny tidbits of each one of these psychological
phenomenons.
The next one is going to be the overview effect, which I found very interesting.
The overview effect is a term given to those who have experienced seeing Earth from a great
distance in space.
Okay, like people that have actually been to space?
Yes, like actual astronauts.
Not everybody is going to experience this, right?
Just like seeing a photo.
This phenomenon only few have ever experienced and it completely changes your perspective
on the vastness of the universe.
I would freak the fuck out.
Especially how small or insignificant the human race is.
Yeah, pale blue dot.
Just a little, yeah.
We were pale blue dot.
You know nothing, John Snow.
No one country borders another.
There's no religion, race, or personal identity separating us from each other.
Just to know that it's...
Isn't that such an intense thought?
That makes me nervous.
Eugene Cernan was an astronaut who first orbited the Earth in 1966 on Gemini 9.
He then went on to orbit the moon on Apollo 10 in 1969 and then eventually landed on the
moon in 1972 with Apollo 17.
Apollo 17 has since been the last moon landing.
Hmm.
1972.
Yeah, the last time we landed on the moon.
They try to say that we don't have the technology to make it possible to go to the moon anymore
and it's like...
What?
We didn't even have fucking phones.
Isn't Space Daddy Elon Musk trying to go to Mars or some shit?
Yeah, I don't know.
That's further away.
What does that make?
So what the fuck?
Yeah.
Can't even get X right.
Yeah.
Eugene said about his experience while commanding Apollo 17, quote, you have to literally just
pinch yourself and ask yourself the question silently.
Do you know where you're at at this point in time and space and in reality and in existence?
When you can look out the window and you're looking at the most beautiful star in the
heavens, the most beautiful because it's the one we understand and we know.
It's home.
It's people, family, love, life.
And besides that, it is beautiful.
You can see from pole to pole and across oceans and continents.
You can watch it turn and there's no strings holding it up and it's moving in a blackness
that's almost beyond comprehension and color.
God, that's so insane to think about.
Right?
And then I'm over here having anxiety because I didn't get enough sleep.
Yeah.
I'm mad at my, that's my biggest problem.
That's my biggest problem.
Yeah.
I just got to get gas in my car.
Yeah.
Seriously.
So I can drive on the fucking earth.
On the earth.
On the roads that we've paved onto the fucking earth.
Which takes no time.
You're stuck in traffic for 20 minutes but you're like, it takes days to go to the moon.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, for real.
Yeah.
In October of 2021, actor William Shatner took a suborbital capsule into space with
Blue Origin, which is the Jeff Bezos company.
William later said that he regretted the experience, stating, quote, it was among the
strongest feelings of grief I've ever encountered.
The contrast between the vicious coldness of space and the warm nurturing of earth below
filled me with overwhelming sadness.
Oh my gosh.
Every day we are confronted with the knowledge of further destruction of earth at our own
hands.
The extinction of animal species of flora and fauna.
Things that took five billion years to evolve and suddenly we will never see them again
because of the interference of mankind.
It filled me with dread.
End quote.
That's heavy.
It's fucking heavy.
Yeah.
I bet it feels you with like, like your body is probably so fucking scared at the same
time.
Yeah.
I am insignificant.
Like I can barely be on a fucking airplane and you're going to launch me in a space.
I couldn't do it.
Oh my gosh.
There's no way.
Oh, that's too much.
That's way too much.
My brain would break and that's why it's dubbed the overview effect.
Your brain breaks.
An experience is something that is probably not meant to be experienced by humans.
Yeah, no, for sure.
Absolutely.
Your brain can't comprehend that.
If anyone that's listening has ever been to space, please, please write us a response.
We'd like to know.
So that's overview effect.
Wow.
I've never heard of that.
That makes so much sense though.
Yeah.
It's just that's something that you don't really think about because I mean, we're not fucking
astronauts.
Yeah.
Right?
It's insane.
So number three is cognitive dissonance.
Which is true.
Yeah.
If you've taken a psychology course, typically you might have heard of this one.
But for our listeners, cognitive dissonance is when two contradictory ideas or choices
present themselves, but one still chosen with the understanding that a negative or positive
ramification of that choice is still a possibility and will need to be accepted.
And that is a very long sentence.
Yeah.
Break it down.
But for example, you might have to make a career decision that requires you to move
to a beautiful countryside.
You could take the job and miss your friends and family, but enjoy the remoteness of this
new area that is yet to be explored.
Or you don't take the job to be with friends and family, but you still yearn for the experience
of having a peaceful environment.
Both of these choices end in cognitive dissonance, and both choices have their good points and
bad points.
Yeah.
The point of it is, is that making either decision takes away the possibility that you
can enjoy the advantages of one choice that you didn't make, yet ensures that you must
accept the disadvantages of the choice that you did make.
Cognitive dissonance aims to lower the amount of dissonance we feel when experiencing choices
such as these.
Another example might be smoking.
We all know that it's bad for our health to smoke, but in order to reduce the dissonance
one might tell themselves that life is too short to worry about ramifications of smoking.
So we also see this in examples of spending too much money, diet and exercising, or just
about anything we can experience at any given time.
No, yeah, it's essentially like, I'm gonna take the bad with the good, and the bad's
like not that bad.
Yeah.
It'll be fine.
Well, because it's so far removed in the future.
Yeah, exactly.
But almost, you know, it's like who's to tell what's, you know what I mean?
What's really gonna happen, yeah.
Exactly.
So that's cognitive dissonance.
Tell me you have, whoa.
Tell me you have, where are you?
And I'm so sorry.
Do you have a confirmation bias on here or not?
Oh, maybe.
It's not really a fun knowledge.
It's just kind of like a thing.
No, I don't know.
I don't think.
Well, the thing is about, and what's great about this list is that there, these are
just eight, and there's like a billion.
Yeah.
So I just picked eight ones that I thought were really interesting.
Yeah, for sure.
Number four.
Number five.
Bader-Minhoff syndrome.
All right.
It's not a syndrome.
That was like the longest laugh in the world.
We had to pause again.
Phenomenon.
Not a syndrome.
I was gonna say what.
So the bit, I think it's better.
It might be better.
I think it's better.
Bader-Minhoff group or gang was a leftist radical group founded in the later 1960s and
early 1970s.
The group believed that the United States was an imperialist power extending themselves
into other territories that it didn't belong to, and were against the fascist regime of
West Germany.
Okay.
Their leaders were Andres, Bader, and I think it's Oreich, Minhoff, the gang would support
themselves and their movement by robbing banks and would often set explosions or commit
arson in an effort to raise awareness about their revolutionist ideas.
All right.
These attacks were most often targeted, most often targeted West German military installations
and West German corporations.
Eventually the group called themselves the Red Army faction and developed into 22 core
groups and dozens of followers.
The group were labeled terrorists and their actions became more and more violent as the
years went on.
They would sometimes align themselves with groups of militant Palestinians and on several
occasions actually managed to hijack planes.
What does this have to do with psychology?
Yeah.
These are just bad people.
In 1994, an online commenting board under an article claiming the term, quote, frequency
illusion, end quote, the commenter had said that they always called it the Bader-Minhoff
phenomenon or Minhoff, however you say it.
They had once heard two separate groups of people talking about the gang twice in one
day and never hearing of the gang before and began to think what are the odds that I would
hear two things in the same day with two separate people that had nothing to do with each other.
Right?
So, I'm just fucking explaining how often this happens to me.
It happens to me too.
It's the astral plane.
I never called it that.
That was actually a term that Joe told me, Joe from work.
He said, yeah, it's called the astral plane.
And I was like, what the hell is that?
That's what he said.
He's like, would you hear two things at the same time?
That's what I call it.
So, that's what I call it now.
So, Bader-Minhoff, also known as frequency illusion, happens when we are introduced to
a new idea or thought that our brains are able to recognize more frequently after thought
it or seen it.
Yeah, of course.
So, I've definitely talked about it before where I'm like, you ever date someone?
You see that car everywhere?
Yeah.
Because not that it wasn't always there.
It's just you're able to recognize it more easily now.
So, it is closely related to the recency illusion, where one experiences a new thing
recently, making it a recent thing.
So, say you hear a song that you assume is recent, only because you just are hearing
about it or listening to it, but it's from the 90s.
Like, was that Kate Bush song, running up that hill?
Yeah.
It was like all of a sudden that exploded and it's like, oh, what's this new song?
It's like, oh, Kate Bush.
She's been on it all forever.
Yeah.
You know what actually this happened to me the other day?
Mm-hmm.
Remember when we were recording your case, your most recent case, and you said like nine
years her junior and I was like, what the fuck does that mean?
Yeah.
I was researching my case the next fucking day and it said that in the research.
Yeah.
And I was like, that's what it means.
Yeah, that's what it means.
Oh, God, this is just crazy to me, like that can happen.
That happens all the time.
I feel like I used to watch Family Guy all the time and I would think of a quote from
Family Guy like an episode and I would watch it.
I would just pick up where I left off and it would be that episode when I came home.
I'm like, what the hell?
Yeah.
I should bring just those.
So yeah, frequency illusion or yeah, or if it's a recent thing that you feel like it's
like a new thing.
Yeah.
Recent illusion.
Okay.
Interesting, right?
That is really interesting.
I didn't know what to call that except for the astral plane, right?
All right.
I don't know what number we're on, but it is the placebo effect.
Oh, yeah.
I love it.
So the placebo effect, placebo meaning shall be pleasing, which is interesting in Latin.
Shall be please, shall be please, shall be please.
Pleasiest stories.
So that early, that's the third time I said that today, I think.
Oh, that's weird.
What just happened?
Frequency illusion?
Yeah.
Well, I did it though.
I did it each time.
Yeah, I did it each time.
It was me every time.
So this refers to the phenomenon that you may believe a treatment is working simply because
you were told it would or you believed it would.
A placebo is a treatment, maybe a medication or a shot that has no real effect on the brain
or body.
These are usually used as a control and an experiment.
You, the volunteer, may be taking a placebo or a medication that unbeknownst to you.
It might be one or the other.
You may begin to sleep better after being treated for insomnia.
You may feel less depressed after being treated for depression.
There has even been cases where pain has been reduced during treatment, all with the effect
of the placebo.
I'm telling you, it's a mental game just as much as it is a physical game.
It's like that whole mind over matter type thing, right?
You might come to the end of the experiment and be told that the entire treatment time
that you were actually taking sugar pills.
So this is the placebo effect.
Most researchers believe that this effect is due to one's expectancy.
If you expect the treatment to work, then it will.
They say that often with cancer patients to believe in the treatment.
That's also part of the psychology of it, is that if you believe it will happen, your
body works in very mysterious ways.
Mentalities have to battle, like I'm saying.
I think that this also, and I don't know if you're going to mention it or not, it also
can be true for someone that you trust telling you something and then you believing them.
Like, perfect example, I think Casey knows everything.
Casey is never wrong about anything.
His all facts are correct.
If I'm fearful about something, I express that to him.
He reassures me with a fact or something that he knows to be true and that I have less fear
from what I was talking about because I trust his opinion or thoughts or whatever.
And because of that, that's kind of like a placebo.
He could be lying to me, but it would still make me feel better because he said it.
You know what I mean?
No, I totally understand what you're saying.
Also in contrast, the individual being treated may also expect the treatment not to work.
And in fact, many of these negative thoughts have produced even more complications to the
volunteer as they actually manifest side effects of the perceived medication and actually worsens
their conditions.
Which is...
Well, you ever heard about the phenomenon where if you think you might be pregnant and
you really think you're pregnant, you can actually have pregnancy symptoms?
Yeah, I've heard of that for sure.
You just believe it.
Just believe it.
And then it's like, oh, hold on.
Did my boobs always hurt like this?
Right.
Like, you know, like certain things.
Am I gaining weight or whatever?
Or in the case of like maybe back pain, like you're taking this medication and you are
so fearful of all the side effects of this medication could cause that you actually start
developing the side effects, even though you're just taking up the CBO.
Yeah, that's literally me when I take my new medication.
So the negative side effects or, you know, lack thereof would be called a non-CBO, which
is interesting, which means shall harm.
Shall harm.
Okay.
A non-CBO.
In your cases, patients can actually experience withdrawal symptoms if the patient truly believes
that they are weaning off the medication that was seemingly affecting them.
God, that's so crazy.
And it's just in your mind.
Your head does that.
Your brain does that.
It's so wild.
Ugh.
So that's the placebo effect.
Yeah.
Dang, I'm never going to like be in an experiment because I'm going to freak out and everything
like that's going to happen to me.
So number whatever.
Cryptomnesia.
Okay.
Which is a weird strange word.
It sounds like you forget that you stole something.
Right.
Or not, that's kleptomnesia.
Kleptomnesia.
Yeah.
This is cryptomnesia with an M-N, which is kind of hard to say.
Ronald T. Kellogg defines cryptomnesia as, quote, the belief that I thought is novel
when in fact it is memory, end quote.
Okay.
So cryptomnesia occurs when we think we've discovered or created a new thought, song,
theory, when in reality we just simply remembered it.
Okay.
Like your brain logged it away and then it was like, this is a brand new idea.
Like when I saw the iPod, I could have kicked myself.
Okay.
That's for baby mama.
This is actually without the individual's comprehension knowledge, a contrast, and the
person actually believes that they came up with the idea originally.
Yeah, they're not actually like fool someone.
Yeah, exactly.
It's without the intent to manipulate.
Yeah.
So believe it or not, the origin of cryptomnesia can be linked to spiritual mediums.
Cryptomnesia was first recorded in 1847 when William Stanton Moses, a medium, began communicating
with two brothers that had passed away in India a week prior.
Moses' knowledge of the men's passing was miraculous and it was believed that he was
in fact communicating with the two brothers.
Moses eventually realized that his claim that he was talking to the deceased men was
due to him reading about the incident in the newspaper a week earlier.
He just forgot.
It was unintentional.
And this effect has been used to explain away many coincidences in the medium world.
Do you remember that?
We probably don't actually.
Montell Williams, he used to have that psychic lady.
What was her name?
Susan Brown, I think was her name or something.
Brown, Sylvia Brown I think it was, and she was the spiritual medium apparently.
And she was on the show and she'd be like, does anybody know anybody with a J name?
And it's like, literally everybody.
Yeah.
Do you feel like there was a death in the family?
It's like, literally everybody.
Yeah.
But I think, I don't know, now it's so easy.
I tried to take a friend of mine to go get a reading and they wanted it by appointment
only.
Okay, well, did you want to be able to research us?
Yeah, I was like, you can just Google me.
Yeah.
I have a podcast.
Your Popsip is a podcast now.
Yeah, exactly.
Oh gosh.
That is so cool that when you Google us now, there's a little bar to the right that says
our synopsis and stuff.
It's so nuts.
This is True Crime Podcast.
True Google recognizes us as a podcast.
That we're a podcast.
So the likes of Carl Jung and Frederick Nietzsche have also written in length on the subject
of cryptomnesia, which I found interesting.
So it's definitely not just something that happens.
So like, actual psychiatrists and psychoanalysts and that they recognize this as well.
Cryptomnesia.
That's really interesting.
Number 1005, Dunning and Kruger Effect.
So in 1999, a study conducted by David Dunning and Justin Kruger had young adults that were
to participate in testing of their knowledge of three separate categories, logic, grammar,
and humor.
These studies were to determine not just the knowledge of the participants, but also how
competent each participant felt in their knowledge of each category.
So in the humor category, for example, jokes were presented to 65 participants, leaving
them to decide what they thought the majority of people would find funny.
Like apples to apples or cards against humanity, right?
They had the idea in 1999.
So participants who found themselves to be excellent judges of all things funny were
actually the ones that had the lowest success rate at choosing a funny joke, even though
they were super confident that they knew humor.
Another example in logic, an equal group of men and women were chosen to participate in
a science quiz.
Most of the women were shocked that they had performed as well as the men, given that they
believed somehow they were intellectually inferior or incompetent in a subject like
science.
And then, of course, on the flip side, the men were surprised that they weren't as...
You know, they weren't 10 times better than the women.
Oh, I thought it was going to be like a different subject than they were.
No, yeah, they were surprised that they didn't do better than the women, essentially.
Another study was done that posed kind of like a questionnaire.
Subjects were asked if they were savvy in things like politics, biology, physics, and
so on.
But they were also asked if they were savvy in words that were completely made up and
there was no subject.
So they would just be like, oh, what's your knowledge like on lestinology or something?
You know?
And they'd be like, oh, I know all about that.
Isn't that crazy?
People are so annoying.
They have to be the smartest, right?
Can you just admit that you don't know something?
Like, that's one of my biggest pet peeves and someone can't admit that they don't know.
I swear, one time I did that to like an old, old, old friend of mine.
I was like, oh yeah, this new movie came out blah, blah, blah, it's called This and That
the Other.
Did you see it?
And it wasn't a real movie.
You said, oh yeah, it was a okay, blah, blah.
That's over, sure.
Why can't you just say you didn't see it?
Kelly and I used to call it the, the white rabbit, the black bunnies.
We said, you listen to the black bunnies?
Yeah, the black bunnies are so good.
They're going to be at the white rabbit this weekend.
Oh, that's so funny.
I love it.
So believe it or not, 90% of the participants said that they knew these make-believe categories.
Wow, because again, people can't admit that they don't know.
They can't stand to not know.
You just have some humility.
Like, have some, like, be humble.
And then what, you might learn something?
Oh no.
I actually did.
Dunning and Kruger were able to determine that these participants suffered from something
that they called dual burden.
People are not only incompetent, but they lack the awareness to be able to realize how inept
they are.
You know what I mean?
People who are incompetent tend to overestimate their skill levels, fail to recognize the
genuine skill and expertise of others, and fail to recognize their own mistakes and lack
of skill.
Let's be clear, incompetence has nothing to do with one's IQ.
It is defined as not having or showing the necessary skills to do something successfully.
And there is nothing wrong with that.
How could we all avoid the Dunning-Kruger effect?
By learning.
Come to a greater understanding of what it is you want to know about.
Try to gain another's perspective by asking how you're improving on a topic.
It's harder to compete with others when we have conversations with others about what
we're new to.
And if you don't know, ask.
We could all do better about being vulnerable and asking about a topic that we don't understand.
So don't be afraid to say I don't know.
I love it, because honestly, I feel like that's such a big deal with adults.
It's like people, again, I keep saying this, people are afraid to admit that they don't
know something.
I'm the first person to be like, what?
I'm sorry, what?
I have no idea what you're talking about.
Can you please educate me?
Right, yeah.
I don't know what that means.
Can you tell me?
Do you love me?
Do you learn to love me?
Can you learn to love me?
That's a perfect time to put on a diet.
Yeah, we're doing Baileys for it.
We're doing Baileys for it.
Damn it.
I've never drank Baileys from a shoe.
I know what I'm saying.
That's interesting though.
Yeah, and you guys, I mean, if you're listening to this episode, you probably aren't like
the people that we're describing, because you probably want to learn new things, right?
Well, you're learning right now.
Good for you.
Proud of you.
I'm gonna take the last one.
Probably the most infamous one, deja vu.
Oh, yes, obviously.
Are you like, I've heard this before.
Oh, does this sound familiar?
I've been here before.
Deja vu, meaning already seen, is a phenomenon I'm sure we've all experienced.
It is the feeling of being somewhere, hearing something or otherwise, that feels so familiar,
you swear you've experienced it before, but you kind of know you haven't.
I don't think that you're gonna convince me that this isn't like my past life coming
back to me.
You don't think so?
Well, the answer might terrify you.
Oh, Jesus Christ.
I know.
Oh, Jesus, go first.
Jesus Christ.
I told Cliff about it earlier, and he's like, don't tell me that.
Oh, my no, okay.
So this is still a phenomenon that has no scientific explanation, but there are some theories that
have been presented that have to do with the temporal lobe.
Oh, God.
The temporal lobe is located above your ears on either side of your head in between the
temples, or behind each temple, you know what I'm saying.
The temporal lobe is responsible for quite a few things, including visual recognition,
senses, and memory.
Deja vu tends to occur more often between ages of 15 to 25, and individuals who happen
to have a higher education, who travel more often and can still remember dreams the next
day, and they also tend to be liberal.
That's the research that's out me, but they tend to be liberal people.
Although deja vu is common amongst people, in very rare cases, deja vu can be linked to
neurological disorders, like temporal lobe seizures.
Awesome.
Are you ready?
Temporal lobe seizures can produce feelings of deja vu, signs that you might be having
a temporal lobe seizure.
Oh, God.
You freaked me out.
Versus regular deja vu.
Versus the regular seizure.
Like what?
No.
Set in unexplained feelings like joy or anger, problems controlling your muscles, twitching
in your muscles, having sensations that involve visions, taste, hearing, smelling, touch, all
your senses.
Feeling as though you're about to have a seizure, which, you know, that's great.
That does not sound very fun, right?
So it could, what you're saying is, when one experiences deja vu, it could actually just
be a mini seizure.
Kind of.
Great.
If it happens often though, and the only reason is because when temporal lobe seizures occur,
it is in that same region where we would experience deja vu.
And again, this is just a theory.
Yeah.
That it has to do with a temporal lobe because that's where all your senses lie and your
memories lie.
Your memory, yeah.
And it's your brain short circuiting thinking like, oh, this feels familiar.
It's giving you that sense of familiarity without you ever having to experience it.
Okay, I got it.
That makes sense.
And like, you know, what you said, you're like, change my mind.
I swear this is a past life.
Or some people say I'm on the right path because I'm re-experienced.
Like this is where I'm supposed to be.
And things like that.
Like people have all different kinds of explanations for it.
But all it is, I think after reading this, it's your brain telling you this is familiar
when it's really not.
When it's really not.
It's just short circuiting.
I just, sometimes I go down a rabbit hole in my own brain and I think like, all of life
has already happened for me and me currently is me laying in my deathbed and just reliving
moments of my life.
They have you on a machine right now.
We're on a machine right now.
It's the Matrix.
And I get to watch my success.
But I'm also like not alive.
I don't know.
Yeah.
No, I totally get what you're saying.
We're uploaded into a consciousness somewhere.
Yeah.
Like I don't know.
It's just, I don't know.
It's true.
It's crazy.
I've been talking about this whole episode is like how much your brain can convince you
that something is happening or something that's real.
You have an infinite amount of imagination.
It's true.
And if you really try hard enough, you can literally make your brain believe anything.
You can not even believe anything.
It's so true.
That overview effect, one messes with me.
Oh yeah.
But before we wrap up, I did find this really interesting that there are other Dejas.
So there's Deja Intendu, which already heard, which is already heard.
Deja, these are all in French.
I've never heard every single one of these.
Deja Imprové already experienced.
Deja Fait, which is already done.
Deja Pense, which is already thought.
Deja Reconde, I did not have a tongue for French.
I have a tongue for Spanish, which is already recounted.
Deja Sintai, which is already felt emotionally or already smelled, which I thought was really
interesting that it means both.
Yeah, that is interesting.
Like you already felt like how closely smell is related to memory.
Yeah, absolutely.
I love it.
Deja Su, which is already known or you have the knowledge of.
Deja Trové, which is already found.
Deja Vecou, which is already lived through.
And Deja Volo, which is already wanted.
Dang, there's a lot of them.
There's a lot of Dejas out there.
There's a lot of Dejas that all we do is say Deja Vu.
So mind your peace and queues.
Find out what Deja you're talking about, because there's a bunch.
I swear I've seen this before.
Deja Vu, don't tell me that is.
It is actually.
Oh, Deja Vu is already seen.
Oh, I've already seen this before.
I could have said any other sense and that's the one I went with.
I've already felt this before.
I like the Deja Sintai, how do you say it?
Sinti, Sinti.
That's another little French.
Sinti, Sinti.
Right?
Sinti, Sinti.
But that's already smelled.
And I would like that's, me and Cliff were talking about that earlier too, where it's,
I've had so many of those where you smell something for the, you haven't smelled in 10 years, 12
years, but it reminds you immediately.
You know exactly what that scent is.
Yeah.
Did you only get one sniff and then it's gone?
It's gone after that.
I don't walk by someone with like a perfume that I used to wear in like high school and
I'm like, that's that one perfume.
Yeah, and I'll go around sniffing and I don't get it again.
Yeah, people are like, what the fuck are you doing?
Deja Sintai.
That's it.
Yeah, that was interesting.
I liked that.
Yeah, it's a little, it's a little bit of a, just a, a palette of different flavors there.
So.
Well, no, that was really interesting.
And the fact that you said that there's a lot more, we definitely need to do another
mental breakdown on that because that was really cool.
There's a lot.
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all of the episodes leading up to the podcast con because it's a special week.
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