1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:23,280 Music 2 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:23,780 Hello. 3 00:00:23,780 --> 00:00:24,280 Hello. 4 00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:29,160 Welcome back to another episode of Dying Missing a Killer, The Mental Breakdown. 5 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:30,000 I'm Ka'well. 6 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:30,960 And I'm Kena. 7 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:31,800 Welcome back. 8 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:32,800 Welcome back. 9 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:36,600 Some of you may have noticed that we did not release anything this past week. 10 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:42,440 Uh, that's mostly to do with the fact that we have the con coming up this weekend. 11 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:44,280 And all I can think about. 12 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:51,880 Very excited and in preparation for that we've been getting in goodies that you can get at our booth 13 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:54,520 when you guys come to see us and we're really excited. 14 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:55,480 We are so excited. 15 00:00:55,480 --> 00:00:58,760 We've been gearing up for that and like Ka'well just said we didn't record last week at all 16 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:01,960 but we're going to be doing a countdown to the festival for this week. 17 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:03,640 So when you hear this it'll be Monday. 18 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:07,040 We're going to release our case on Tuesday and then we're going to release another bonus 19 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:11,200 mental breakdown on Wednesday because we're going on Thursday for the festival. 20 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:15,800 So don't expect a case on Thursday but you will get it two days early which is awesome. 21 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:22,080 You can also check us out on our TikTok which I'm looking to revive this again. 22 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:27,280 So if you want to follow along with us check the TikTok which is at Dying Missing a Killer 23 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:29,840 and maybe you'll be able to follow along with us. 24 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:33,640 We'll share some videos, some pictures, all that good stuff. 25 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:37,200 Absolutely and we do have at Dying Missing a Killer as our handle on every platform 26 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:41,520 with the exception of X which is at Killer Diagnosis which is a little weird to say. 27 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:43,760 And then lastly I know it's your mental breakdown. 28 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:46,320 Did you just want to really quickly touch on our new logo? 29 00:01:46,320 --> 00:01:53,040 Yeah so we did get a new logo done and that was provided by Ruben from Copperhead Screen Printing. 30 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:58,320 He is a local dude here in San Antonio, check his website out. 31 00:01:58,320 --> 00:02:00,680 He does all different kinds of things so yeah. 32 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:01,680 Thank you Ruben. 33 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:02,680 It looks so good. 34 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:03,680 Thank you so much. 35 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:04,680 It looks amazing. 36 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:10,400 I love the pop of color and we got that printed on flags and we got the flag like way too 37 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:11,400 big but it looks really good. 38 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:15,440 It's like a banner almost and we got this literally today, like an hour before we start 39 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:18,080 recording this and they go out of the con with us. 40 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:23,000 Yes and they're gigantic and so they're completely blown up but the quality is so good. 41 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:25,040 It's not pixelated or anything. 42 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:26,560 He did a really really great job on that. 43 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:30,680 We were able to get pins for the con, stickers for the con. 44 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:34,240 Every single platform that we have has been changed to that logo. 45 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:35,720 Yes Ruben, you rock. 46 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:39,640 And if you have a sweet tooth or you like mints or you are human and drink water, come 47 00:02:39,640 --> 00:02:42,160 to our booth because we will have all of those things. 48 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:43,160 Good. 49 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:45,680 Okay I'm ready to hear it. 50 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:49,840 Today we are going to be talking about eight different psychological phenomena. 51 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:50,840 Ooh. 52 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:51,840 Phenomenon. 53 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:52,840 Phenomenon. 54 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:55,080 We looked it up. 55 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:56,880 It's phenomena or phenomenon. 56 00:02:56,880 --> 00:02:58,760 I might switch in between. 57 00:02:58,760 --> 00:02:59,760 Phenomenons. 58 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:00,760 Phenomenons. 59 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:01,760 Multiple phenomena. 60 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:02,760 Gosh. 61 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:03,760 Phenomenons. 62 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:04,760 We're never going to know. 63 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:05,760 It's fine. 64 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:08,240 So again, eight but we're going to start with number one. 65 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:09,240 Number one. 66 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:10,240 Reverse psychology. 67 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:11,240 Ooh. 68 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:12,240 Right? 69 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:15,000 I use this all the time. 70 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:22,640 So reverse psychology also referred to as psychological reactance or strategic self-anticonformity. 71 00:03:22,640 --> 00:03:27,400 Is when an individual attempts to restore a perceived loss of freedom or choice. 72 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:29,240 When someone's like, what are you trying to do to me? 73 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:33,040 I'm just practicing, what is it, anti-self-conceived authority? 74 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:37,120 Yeah, it's strategic self-anticonformity. 75 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:39,920 That's exactly what I just said. 76 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:45,320 So this type of psychological theory typically works on those who are resistant by nature, 77 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:47,560 so opposite of those who are typically compliant. 78 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:48,560 Yeah. 79 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:50,440 Because they want to be rebellious, right? 80 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:55,120 We usually hear about reverse psychology as a negative, but it can also be used in psychology 81 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:57,320 and therapy as a very helpful tool. 82 00:03:57,320 --> 00:03:58,720 Yeah, absolutely. 83 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:04,800 The technique of the paradoxical intervention has also been called the anti-subgestion. 84 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:11,080 So some therapists can frame their message that a resistance promotes change. 85 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:16,520 Interventions like these can have a similar impact as humor and helping clients cast their 86 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:18,600 problems in a new light. 87 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:21,960 So it's like by a different perspective, essentially. 88 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:26,720 So by going with and not against the client's resistance, the therapist can actually make 89 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:30,640 the behavior less attractive to the individual, which is interesting. 90 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:36,720 Well, like we say, it's really hard to see something when you're so close to it. 91 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:40,800 And then if you bring yourself away from it, or once you are removed from the situation, 92 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:41,960 you can really see it more clearly. 93 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:43,960 I think it's kind of like the similar. 94 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:47,080 Yeah, it's reframing, essentially. 95 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:51,080 This means that pretending to agree with clients' thoughts and beliefs and reaffirming them 96 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:56,960 out loud to make them realize their fallibility would also be a helpful tool. 97 00:04:56,960 --> 00:05:01,960 We also regularly see examples of it in marketing as well, like continuing to dangle a product 98 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:07,200 in front of our face or make the item more exclusive because we want what we can't have. 99 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:12,520 It's like I just wrote bugs bunny because it reminds me of the like where it's like, 100 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:17,040 yes, no, yes, no, no, yes, no, yes. 101 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:24,360 So yeah, again, these are just going to be little tiny tidbits of each one of these psychological 102 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:25,360 phenomenons. 103 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:31,600 The next one is going to be the overview effect, which I found very interesting. 104 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:36,280 The overview effect is a term given to those who have experienced seeing Earth from a great 105 00:05:36,280 --> 00:05:38,560 distance in space. 106 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:42,640 Okay, like people that have actually been to space? 107 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:44,640 Yes, like actual astronauts. 108 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:46,600 Not everybody is going to experience this, right? 109 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:48,680 Just like seeing a photo. 110 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:53,480 This phenomenon only few have ever experienced and it completely changes your perspective 111 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:55,960 on the vastness of the universe. 112 00:05:55,960 --> 00:05:57,920 I would freak the fuck out. 113 00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:01,360 Especially how small or insignificant the human race is. 114 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:02,360 Yeah, pale blue dot. 115 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:03,360 Just a little, yeah. 116 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:04,360 We were pale blue dot. 117 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:09,280 You know nothing, John Snow. 118 00:06:09,280 --> 00:06:11,480 No one country borders another. 119 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:16,440 There's no religion, race, or personal identity separating us from each other. 120 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:17,760 Just to know that it's... 121 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:19,160 Isn't that such an intense thought? 122 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:21,040 That makes me nervous. 123 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:27,160 Eugene Cernan was an astronaut who first orbited the Earth in 1966 on Gemini 9. 124 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:32,440 He then went on to orbit the moon on Apollo 10 in 1969 and then eventually landed on the 125 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:35,720 moon in 1972 with Apollo 17. 126 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:38,800 Apollo 17 has since been the last moon landing. 127 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:39,800 Hmm. 128 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:40,800 1972. 129 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:41,880 Yeah, the last time we landed on the moon. 130 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:45,760 They try to say that we don't have the technology to make it possible to go to the moon anymore 131 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:46,760 and it's like... 132 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:47,760 What? 133 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:49,760 We didn't even have fucking phones. 134 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:52,840 Isn't Space Daddy Elon Musk trying to go to Mars or some shit? 135 00:06:52,840 --> 00:06:54,000 Yeah, I don't know. 136 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:55,000 That's further away. 137 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:56,000 What does that make? 138 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:57,000 So what the fuck? 139 00:06:57,000 --> 00:06:58,000 Yeah. 140 00:06:58,000 --> 00:06:59,000 Can't even get X right. 141 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:00,000 Yeah. 142 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:05,400 Eugene said about his experience while commanding Apollo 17, quote, you have to literally just 143 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:08,640 pinch yourself and ask yourself the question silently. 144 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:14,080 Do you know where you're at at this point in time and space and in reality and in existence? 145 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:16,840 When you can look out the window and you're looking at the most beautiful star in the 146 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:21,400 heavens, the most beautiful because it's the one we understand and we know. 147 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:22,400 It's home. 148 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:25,240 It's people, family, love, life. 149 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:27,600 And besides that, it is beautiful. 150 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:31,320 You can see from pole to pole and across oceans and continents. 151 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:35,680 You can watch it turn and there's no strings holding it up and it's moving in a blackness 152 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:38,400 that's almost beyond comprehension and color. 153 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:41,560 God, that's so insane to think about. 154 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:42,560 Right? 155 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:47,840 And then I'm over here having anxiety because I didn't get enough sleep. 156 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:48,840 Yeah. 157 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:50,840 I'm mad at my, that's my biggest problem. 158 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:51,840 That's my biggest problem. 159 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:52,840 Yeah. 160 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:54,080 I just got to get gas in my car. 161 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:55,080 Yeah. 162 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:56,080 Seriously. 163 00:07:56,080 --> 00:07:57,240 So I can drive on the fucking earth. 164 00:07:57,240 --> 00:07:58,240 On the earth. 165 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:00,880 On the roads that we've paved onto the fucking earth. 166 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:02,680 Which takes no time. 167 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:09,360 You're stuck in traffic for 20 minutes but you're like, it takes days to go to the moon. 168 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:10,360 Yeah. 169 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:11,360 You know what I mean? 170 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:12,360 Yeah, for real. 171 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:13,360 Yeah. 172 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:19,160 In October of 2021, actor William Shatner took a suborbital capsule into space with 173 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:22,960 Blue Origin, which is the Jeff Bezos company. 174 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:27,440 William later said that he regretted the experience, stating, quote, it was among the 175 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:30,800 strongest feelings of grief I've ever encountered. 176 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:35,520 The contrast between the vicious coldness of space and the warm nurturing of earth below 177 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:37,720 filled me with overwhelming sadness. 178 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:39,400 Oh my gosh. 179 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:43,080 Every day we are confronted with the knowledge of further destruction of earth at our own 180 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:44,080 hands. 181 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:48,840 The extinction of animal species of flora and fauna. 182 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:53,040 Things that took five billion years to evolve and suddenly we will never see them again 183 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:55,440 because of the interference of mankind. 184 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:56,800 It filled me with dread. 185 00:08:56,800 --> 00:08:57,800 End quote. 186 00:08:57,800 --> 00:08:58,800 That's heavy. 187 00:08:58,800 --> 00:08:59,800 It's fucking heavy. 188 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:00,800 Yeah. 189 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:05,400 I bet it feels you with like, like your body is probably so fucking scared at the same 190 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:06,400 time. 191 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:07,400 Yeah. 192 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:09,760 I am insignificant. 193 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:13,760 Like I can barely be on a fucking airplane and you're going to launch me in a space. 194 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:14,760 I couldn't do it. 195 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:15,760 Oh my gosh. 196 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:16,760 There's no way. 197 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:17,760 Oh, that's too much. 198 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:18,760 That's way too much. 199 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:22,760 My brain would break and that's why it's dubbed the overview effect. 200 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:23,760 Your brain breaks. 201 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:28,760 An experience is something that is probably not meant to be experienced by humans. 202 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:29,760 Yeah, no, for sure. 203 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:30,760 Absolutely. 204 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:31,760 Your brain can't comprehend that. 205 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:34,760 If anyone that's listening has ever been to space, please, please write us a response. 206 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:37,080 We'd like to know. 207 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:38,080 So that's overview effect. 208 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:39,080 Wow. 209 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:40,080 I've never heard of that. 210 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:41,080 That makes so much sense though. 211 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:42,080 Yeah. 212 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:44,320 It's just that's something that you don't really think about because I mean, we're not fucking 213 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:45,320 astronauts. 214 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:46,320 Yeah. 215 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:47,320 Right? 216 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:48,320 It's insane. 217 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:50,120 So number three is cognitive dissonance. 218 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:51,120 Which is true. 219 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:52,120 Yeah. 220 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:55,080 If you've taken a psychology course, typically you might have heard of this one. 221 00:09:55,080 --> 00:10:00,440 But for our listeners, cognitive dissonance is when two contradictory ideas or choices 222 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:06,520 present themselves, but one still chosen with the understanding that a negative or positive 223 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:11,400 ramification of that choice is still a possibility and will need to be accepted. 224 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:12,800 And that is a very long sentence. 225 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:13,800 Yeah. 226 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:14,800 Break it down. 227 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:18,160 But for example, you might have to make a career decision that requires you to move 228 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:20,400 to a beautiful countryside. 229 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:24,280 You could take the job and miss your friends and family, but enjoy the remoteness of this 230 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:27,200 new area that is yet to be explored. 231 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:31,640 Or you don't take the job to be with friends and family, but you still yearn for the experience 232 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:34,720 of having a peaceful environment. 233 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:38,840 Both of these choices end in cognitive dissonance, and both choices have their good points and 234 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:39,840 bad points. 235 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:40,840 Yeah. 236 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:43,800 The point of it is, is that making either decision takes away the possibility that you 237 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:48,840 can enjoy the advantages of one choice that you didn't make, yet ensures that you must 238 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:52,960 accept the disadvantages of the choice that you did make. 239 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:57,360 Cognitive dissonance aims to lower the amount of dissonance we feel when experiencing choices 240 00:10:57,360 --> 00:10:58,880 such as these. 241 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:00,600 Another example might be smoking. 242 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:04,480 We all know that it's bad for our health to smoke, but in order to reduce the dissonance 243 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:09,440 one might tell themselves that life is too short to worry about ramifications of smoking. 244 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:13,080 So we also see this in examples of spending too much money, diet and exercising, or just 245 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:15,120 about anything we can experience at any given time. 246 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:19,400 No, yeah, it's essentially like, I'm gonna take the bad with the good, and the bad's 247 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:20,400 like not that bad. 248 00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:21,400 Yeah. 249 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:22,400 It'll be fine. 250 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:23,400 Well, because it's so far removed in the future. 251 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:24,400 Yeah, exactly. 252 00:11:24,400 --> 00:11:27,280 But almost, you know, it's like who's to tell what's, you know what I mean? 253 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:28,280 What's really gonna happen, yeah. 254 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:29,280 Exactly. 255 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:30,680 So that's cognitive dissonance. 256 00:11:30,680 --> 00:11:32,680 Tell me you have, whoa. 257 00:11:32,680 --> 00:11:37,600 Tell me you have, where are you? 258 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:41,320 And I'm so sorry. 259 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:43,680 Do you have a confirmation bias on here or not? 260 00:11:43,680 --> 00:11:44,680 Oh, maybe. 261 00:11:44,680 --> 00:11:45,680 It's not really a fun knowledge. 262 00:11:45,680 --> 00:11:46,680 It's not really a fun knowledge. 263 00:11:46,680 --> 00:11:47,680 It's just kind of like a thing. 264 00:11:47,680 --> 00:11:48,680 No, I don't know. 265 00:11:48,680 --> 00:11:49,680 I don't think. 266 00:11:49,680 --> 00:11:52,760 Well, the thing is about, and what's great about this list is that there, these are 267 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:55,280 just eight, and there's like a billion. 268 00:11:55,280 --> 00:11:56,280 Yeah. 269 00:11:56,280 --> 00:11:58,680 So I just picked eight ones that I thought were really interesting. 270 00:11:58,680 --> 00:12:00,480 Yeah, for sure. 271 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:01,480 Number four. 272 00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:02,480 Number four. 273 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:03,480 Number five. 274 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:04,480 Bader-Minhoff syndrome. 275 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:05,480 All right. 276 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:06,480 It's not a syndrome. 277 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:11,760 That was like the longest laugh in the world. 278 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:13,280 We had to pause again. 279 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:14,280 Phenomenon. 280 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:15,280 Not a syndrome. 281 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:16,780 I was gonna say what. 282 00:12:16,780 --> 00:12:18,680 So the bit, I think it's better. 283 00:12:18,680 --> 00:12:19,680 It might be better. 284 00:12:19,680 --> 00:12:20,680 I think it's better. 285 00:12:20,680 --> 00:12:26,160 Bader-Minhoff group or gang was a leftist radical group founded in the later 1960s and 286 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:28,120 early 1970s. 287 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:32,160 The group believed that the United States was an imperialist power extending themselves 288 00:12:32,160 --> 00:12:36,160 into other territories that it didn't belong to, and were against the fascist regime of 289 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:37,160 West Germany. 290 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:38,160 Okay. 291 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:45,320 Their leaders were Andres, Bader, and I think it's Oreich, Minhoff, the gang would support 292 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:49,520 themselves and their movement by robbing banks and would often set explosions or commit 293 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:53,240 arson in an effort to raise awareness about their revolutionist ideas. 294 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:54,440 All right. 295 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:59,840 These attacks were most often targeted, most often targeted West German military installations 296 00:12:59,840 --> 00:13:02,120 and West German corporations. 297 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:06,160 Eventually the group called themselves the Red Army faction and developed into 22 core 298 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:08,600 groups and dozens of followers. 299 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:11,800 The group were labeled terrorists and their actions became more and more violent as the 300 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:13,200 years went on. 301 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:18,720 They would sometimes align themselves with groups of militant Palestinians and on several 302 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:22,240 occasions actually managed to hijack planes. 303 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:23,640 What does this have to do with psychology? 304 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:24,640 Yeah. 305 00:13:24,640 --> 00:13:26,720 These are just bad people. 306 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:32,480 In 1994, an online commenting board under an article claiming the term, quote, frequency 307 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:36,720 illusion, end quote, the commenter had said that they always called it the Bader-Minhoff 308 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:40,160 phenomenon or Minhoff, however you say it. 309 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:43,960 They had once heard two separate groups of people talking about the gang twice in one 310 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:48,200 day and never hearing of the gang before and began to think what are the odds that I would 311 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:54,600 hear two things in the same day with two separate people that had nothing to do with each other. 312 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:55,600 Right? 313 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:57,720 So, I'm just fucking explaining how often this happens to me. 314 00:13:57,720 --> 00:13:58,720 It happens to me too. 315 00:13:58,720 --> 00:13:59,720 It's the astral plane. 316 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:00,880 I never called it that. 317 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:05,240 That was actually a term that Joe told me, Joe from work. 318 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:07,320 He said, yeah, it's called the astral plane. 319 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:08,880 And I was like, what the hell is that? 320 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:09,880 That's what he said. 321 00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:10,880 He's like, would you hear two things at the same time? 322 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:11,880 That's what I call it. 323 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:12,880 So, that's what I call it now. 324 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:16,480 So, Bader-Minhoff, also known as frequency illusion, happens when we are introduced to 325 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:21,840 a new idea or thought that our brains are able to recognize more frequently after thought 326 00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:22,840 it or seen it. 327 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:23,840 Yeah, of course. 328 00:14:23,840 --> 00:14:27,800 So, I've definitely talked about it before where I'm like, you ever date someone? 329 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:29,800 You see that car everywhere? 330 00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:30,800 Yeah. 331 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:31,800 Because not that it wasn't always there. 332 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:34,680 It's just you're able to recognize it more easily now. 333 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:39,800 So, it is closely related to the recency illusion, where one experiences a new thing 334 00:14:39,800 --> 00:14:42,280 recently, making it a recent thing. 335 00:14:42,280 --> 00:14:46,920 So, say you hear a song that you assume is recent, only because you just are hearing 336 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:50,200 about it or listening to it, but it's from the 90s. 337 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:54,080 Like, was that Kate Bush song, running up that hill? 338 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:55,080 Yeah. 339 00:14:55,080 --> 00:14:57,720 It was like all of a sudden that exploded and it's like, oh, what's this new song? 340 00:14:57,720 --> 00:14:58,960 It's like, oh, Kate Bush. 341 00:14:58,960 --> 00:14:59,960 She's been on it all forever. 342 00:14:59,960 --> 00:15:00,960 Yeah. 343 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:02,480 You know what actually this happened to me the other day? 344 00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:03,480 Mm-hmm. 345 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:07,600 Remember when we were recording your case, your most recent case, and you said like nine 346 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:10,200 years her junior and I was like, what the fuck does that mean? 347 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:11,200 Yeah. 348 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:14,280 I was researching my case the next fucking day and it said that in the research. 349 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:15,280 Yeah. 350 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:16,280 And I was like, that's what it means. 351 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:17,280 Yeah, that's what it means. 352 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:20,280 Oh, God, this is just crazy to me, like that can happen. 353 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:21,280 That happens all the time. 354 00:15:21,280 --> 00:15:24,480 I feel like I used to watch Family Guy all the time and I would think of a quote from 355 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:27,000 Family Guy like an episode and I would watch it. 356 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:30,280 I would just pick up where I left off and it would be that episode when I came home. 357 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:31,280 I'm like, what the hell? 358 00:15:31,280 --> 00:15:32,280 Yeah. 359 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:33,280 I should bring just those. 360 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:38,280 So yeah, frequency illusion or yeah, or if it's a recent thing that you feel like it's 361 00:15:38,280 --> 00:15:39,280 like a new thing. 362 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:40,280 Yeah. 363 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:41,280 Recent illusion. 364 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:42,280 Okay. 365 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:43,280 Interesting, right? 366 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:44,280 That is really interesting. 367 00:15:44,280 --> 00:15:47,280 I didn't know what to call that except for the astral plane, right? 368 00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:48,280 All right. 369 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:50,280 I don't know what number we're on, but it is the placebo effect. 370 00:15:50,280 --> 00:15:51,280 Oh, yeah. 371 00:15:51,280 --> 00:15:52,280 I love it. 372 00:15:52,280 --> 00:15:59,280 So the placebo effect, placebo meaning shall be pleasing, which is interesting in Latin. 373 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:01,280 Shall be please, shall be please, shall be please. 374 00:16:01,280 --> 00:16:02,280 Pleasiest stories. 375 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:05,280 So that early, that's the third time I said that today, I think. 376 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:06,280 Oh, that's weird. 377 00:16:06,280 --> 00:16:07,280 What just happened? 378 00:16:07,280 --> 00:16:08,280 Frequency illusion? 379 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:09,280 Yeah. 380 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:10,280 Well, I did it though. 381 00:16:10,280 --> 00:16:11,280 I did it each time. 382 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:12,280 Yeah, I did it each time. 383 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:13,280 It was me every time. 384 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:18,280 So this refers to the phenomenon that you may believe a treatment is working simply because 385 00:16:18,280 --> 00:16:21,000 you were told it would or you believed it would. 386 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:25,880 A placebo is a treatment, maybe a medication or a shot that has no real effect on the brain 387 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:27,240 or body. 388 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:29,880 These are usually used as a control and an experiment. 389 00:16:29,880 --> 00:16:35,280 You, the volunteer, may be taking a placebo or a medication that unbeknownst to you. 390 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:37,480 It might be one or the other. 391 00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:41,600 You may begin to sleep better after being treated for insomnia. 392 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:45,680 You may feel less depressed after being treated for depression. 393 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:50,120 There has even been cases where pain has been reduced during treatment, all with the effect 394 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:51,120 of the placebo. 395 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:54,280 I'm telling you, it's a mental game just as much as it is a physical game. 396 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:57,280 It's like that whole mind over matter type thing, right? 397 00:16:57,280 --> 00:17:00,840 You might come to the end of the experiment and be told that the entire treatment time 398 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:03,800 that you were actually taking sugar pills. 399 00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:05,840 So this is the placebo effect. 400 00:17:05,840 --> 00:17:09,880 Most researchers believe that this effect is due to one's expectancy. 401 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:12,400 If you expect the treatment to work, then it will. 402 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:16,560 They say that often with cancer patients to believe in the treatment. 403 00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:20,280 That's also part of the psychology of it, is that if you believe it will happen, your 404 00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:22,840 body works in very mysterious ways. 405 00:17:22,840 --> 00:17:24,200 Mentalities have to battle, like I'm saying. 406 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:26,960 I think that this also, and I don't know if you're going to mention it or not, it also 407 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:33,240 can be true for someone that you trust telling you something and then you believing them. 408 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:35,880 Like, perfect example, I think Casey knows everything. 409 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:37,880 Casey is never wrong about anything. 410 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:39,960 His all facts are correct. 411 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:42,560 If I'm fearful about something, I express that to him. 412 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:47,880 He reassures me with a fact or something that he knows to be true and that I have less fear 413 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:53,240 from what I was talking about because I trust his opinion or thoughts or whatever. 414 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:55,240 And because of that, that's kind of like a placebo. 415 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:58,960 He could be lying to me, but it would still make me feel better because he said it. 416 00:17:58,960 --> 00:17:59,960 You know what I mean? 417 00:17:59,960 --> 00:18:01,800 No, I totally understand what you're saying. 418 00:18:01,800 --> 00:18:07,000 Also in contrast, the individual being treated may also expect the treatment not to work. 419 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:10,360 And in fact, many of these negative thoughts have produced even more complications to the 420 00:18:10,360 --> 00:18:16,080 volunteer as they actually manifest side effects of the perceived medication and actually worsens 421 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:17,080 their conditions. 422 00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:18,080 Which is... 423 00:18:18,080 --> 00:18:24,200 Well, you ever heard about the phenomenon where if you think you might be pregnant and 424 00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:26,880 you really think you're pregnant, you can actually have pregnancy symptoms? 425 00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:28,840 Yeah, I've heard of that for sure. 426 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:29,840 You just believe it. 427 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:30,840 Just believe it. 428 00:18:30,840 --> 00:18:31,840 And then it's like, oh, hold on. 429 00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:33,240 Did my boobs always hurt like this? 430 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:34,240 Right. 431 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:35,240 Like, you know, like certain things. 432 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:36,240 Am I gaining weight or whatever? 433 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:40,240 Or in the case of like maybe back pain, like you're taking this medication and you are 434 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:43,920 so fearful of all the side effects of this medication could cause that you actually start 435 00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:47,480 developing the side effects, even though you're just taking up the CBO. 436 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:50,240 Yeah, that's literally me when I take my new medication. 437 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:55,920 So the negative side effects or, you know, lack thereof would be called a non-CBO, which 438 00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:59,000 is interesting, which means shall harm. 439 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:00,000 Shall harm. 440 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:01,000 Shall harm. 441 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:02,000 Okay. 442 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:03,000 A non-CBO. 443 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:07,960 In your cases, patients can actually experience withdrawal symptoms if the patient truly believes 444 00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:11,120 that they are weaning off the medication that was seemingly affecting them. 445 00:19:11,120 --> 00:19:12,120 God, that's so crazy. 446 00:19:12,120 --> 00:19:13,620 And it's just in your mind. 447 00:19:13,620 --> 00:19:14,620 Your head does that. 448 00:19:14,620 --> 00:19:15,620 Your brain does that. 449 00:19:15,620 --> 00:19:17,120 It's so wild. 450 00:19:17,120 --> 00:19:19,120 It's so wild. 451 00:19:19,120 --> 00:19:20,120 Ugh. 452 00:19:20,120 --> 00:19:22,160 So that's the placebo effect. 453 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:23,160 Yeah. 454 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:28,120 Dang, I'm never going to like be in an experiment because I'm going to freak out and everything 455 00:19:28,120 --> 00:19:29,240 like that's going to happen to me. 456 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:31,040 So number whatever. 457 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:32,040 Cryptomnesia. 458 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:33,040 Okay. 459 00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:34,920 Which is a weird strange word. 460 00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:37,120 It sounds like you forget that you stole something. 461 00:19:37,120 --> 00:19:38,120 Right. 462 00:19:38,120 --> 00:19:39,120 Or not, that's kleptomnesia. 463 00:19:39,120 --> 00:19:40,120 Kleptomnesia. 464 00:19:40,120 --> 00:19:41,120 Yeah. 465 00:19:41,120 --> 00:19:44,800 This is cryptomnesia with an M-N, which is kind of hard to say. 466 00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:50,440 Ronald T. Kellogg defines cryptomnesia as, quote, the belief that I thought is novel 467 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:53,280 when in fact it is memory, end quote. 468 00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:54,280 Okay. 469 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:59,600 So cryptomnesia occurs when we think we've discovered or created a new thought, song, 470 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:03,200 theory, when in reality we just simply remembered it. 471 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:04,200 Okay. 472 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:07,320 Like your brain logged it away and then it was like, this is a brand new idea. 473 00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:10,080 Like when I saw the iPod, I could have kicked myself. 474 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:11,080 Okay. 475 00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:14,800 That's for baby mama. 476 00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:19,720 This is actually without the individual's comprehension knowledge, a contrast, and the 477 00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:21,960 person actually believes that they came up with the idea originally. 478 00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:23,920 Yeah, they're not actually like fool someone. 479 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:24,920 Yeah, exactly. 480 00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:27,920 It's without the intent to manipulate. 481 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:28,920 Yeah. 482 00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:34,720 So believe it or not, the origin of cryptomnesia can be linked to spiritual mediums. 483 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:41,880 Cryptomnesia was first recorded in 1847 when William Stanton Moses, a medium, began communicating 484 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:47,360 with two brothers that had passed away in India a week prior. 485 00:20:47,360 --> 00:20:51,520 Moses' knowledge of the men's passing was miraculous and it was believed that he was 486 00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:54,760 in fact communicating with the two brothers. 487 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:59,000 Moses eventually realized that his claim that he was talking to the deceased men was 488 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:02,760 due to him reading about the incident in the newspaper a week earlier. 489 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:04,120 He just forgot. 490 00:21:04,120 --> 00:21:06,120 It was unintentional. 491 00:21:06,120 --> 00:21:11,080 And this effect has been used to explain away many coincidences in the medium world. 492 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:12,080 Do you remember that? 493 00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:15,040 We probably don't actually. 494 00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:18,240 Montell Williams, he used to have that psychic lady. 495 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:19,240 What was her name? 496 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:21,040 Susan Brown, I think was her name or something. 497 00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:25,880 Brown, Sylvia Brown I think it was, and she was the spiritual medium apparently. 498 00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:30,840 And she was on the show and she'd be like, does anybody know anybody with a J name? 499 00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:32,840 And it's like, literally everybody. 500 00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:33,840 Yeah. 501 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:35,920 Do you feel like there was a death in the family? 502 00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:37,480 It's like, literally everybody. 503 00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:38,480 Yeah. 504 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:42,320 But I think, I don't know, now it's so easy. 505 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:48,160 I tried to take a friend of mine to go get a reading and they wanted it by appointment 506 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:49,160 only. 507 00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:51,520 Okay, well, did you want to be able to research us? 508 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:53,360 Yeah, I was like, you can just Google me. 509 00:21:53,360 --> 00:21:54,360 Yeah. 510 00:21:54,360 --> 00:21:55,360 I have a podcast. 511 00:21:55,360 --> 00:21:57,360 Your Popsip is a podcast now. 512 00:21:57,360 --> 00:21:58,360 Yeah, exactly. 513 00:21:58,360 --> 00:21:59,360 Oh gosh. 514 00:21:59,360 --> 00:22:05,240 That is so cool that when you Google us now, there's a little bar to the right that says 515 00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:06,520 our synopsis and stuff. 516 00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:07,520 It's so nuts. 517 00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:08,520 This is True Crime Podcast. 518 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:09,840 True Google recognizes us as a podcast. 519 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:12,000 That we're a podcast. 520 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:17,080 So the likes of Carl Jung and Frederick Nietzsche have also written in length on the subject 521 00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:19,680 of cryptomnesia, which I found interesting. 522 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:23,440 So it's definitely not just something that happens. 523 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:30,800 So like, actual psychiatrists and psychoanalysts and that they recognize this as well. 524 00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:31,800 Cryptomnesia. 525 00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:35,640 That's really interesting. 526 00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:39,840 Number 1005, Dunning and Kruger Effect. 527 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:46,440 So in 1999, a study conducted by David Dunning and Justin Kruger had young adults that were 528 00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:51,920 to participate in testing of their knowledge of three separate categories, logic, grammar, 529 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:53,480 and humor. 530 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:57,320 These studies were to determine not just the knowledge of the participants, but also how 531 00:22:57,320 --> 00:23:02,480 competent each participant felt in their knowledge of each category. 532 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:07,560 So in the humor category, for example, jokes were presented to 65 participants, leaving 533 00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:12,200 them to decide what they thought the majority of people would find funny. 534 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:15,520 Like apples to apples or cards against humanity, right? 535 00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:18,440 They had the idea in 1999. 536 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:22,360 So participants who found themselves to be excellent judges of all things funny were 537 00:23:22,360 --> 00:23:26,760 actually the ones that had the lowest success rate at choosing a funny joke, even though 538 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:30,560 they were super confident that they knew humor. 539 00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:35,240 Another example in logic, an equal group of men and women were chosen to participate in 540 00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:36,920 a science quiz. 541 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:41,240 Most of the women were shocked that they had performed as well as the men, given that they 542 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:45,200 believed somehow they were intellectually inferior or incompetent in a subject like 543 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:46,200 science. 544 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:52,480 And then, of course, on the flip side, the men were surprised that they weren't as... 545 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:55,840 You know, they weren't 10 times better than the women. 546 00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:58,200 Oh, I thought it was going to be like a different subject than they were. 547 00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:02,120 No, yeah, they were surprised that they didn't do better than the women, essentially. 548 00:24:02,120 --> 00:24:06,400 Another study was done that posed kind of like a questionnaire. 549 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:10,960 Subjects were asked if they were savvy in things like politics, biology, physics, and 550 00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:12,160 so on. 551 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:16,920 But they were also asked if they were savvy in words that were completely made up and 552 00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:18,120 there was no subject. 553 00:24:18,120 --> 00:24:24,600 So they would just be like, oh, what's your knowledge like on lestinology or something? 554 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:25,600 You know? 555 00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:26,920 And they'd be like, oh, I know all about that. 556 00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:27,920 Isn't that crazy? 557 00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:28,920 People are so annoying. 558 00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:30,720 They have to be the smartest, right? 559 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:33,160 Can you just admit that you don't know something? 560 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:36,560 Like, that's one of my biggest pet peeves and someone can't admit that they don't know. 561 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:39,760 I swear, one time I did that to like an old, old, old friend of mine. 562 00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:42,440 I was like, oh yeah, this new movie came out blah, blah, blah, it's called This and That 563 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:43,440 the Other. 564 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:44,440 Did you see it? 565 00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:45,440 And it wasn't a real movie. 566 00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:46,440 You said, oh yeah, it was a okay, blah, blah. 567 00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:47,440 That's over, sure. 568 00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:48,440 Why can't you just say you didn't see it? 569 00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:51,760 Kelly and I used to call it the, the white rabbit, the black bunnies. 570 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:53,480 We said, you listen to the black bunnies? 571 00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:54,760 Yeah, the black bunnies are so good. 572 00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:56,160 They're going to be at the white rabbit this weekend. 573 00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:57,160 Oh, that's so funny. 574 00:24:57,160 --> 00:24:58,160 I love it. 575 00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:04,160 So believe it or not, 90% of the participants said that they knew these make-believe categories. 576 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:06,960 Wow, because again, people can't admit that they don't know. 577 00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:08,160 They can't stand to not know. 578 00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:09,160 You just have some humility. 579 00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:10,880 Like, have some, like, be humble. 580 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:12,400 And then what, you might learn something? 581 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:13,400 Oh no. 582 00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:15,120 I actually did. 583 00:25:15,120 --> 00:25:19,160 Dunning and Kruger were able to determine that these participants suffered from something 584 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:22,160 that they called dual burden. 585 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:26,160 People are not only incompetent, but they lack the awareness to be able to realize how inept 586 00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:27,160 they are. 587 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:30,160 You know what I mean? 588 00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:34,280 People who are incompetent tend to overestimate their skill levels, fail to recognize the 589 00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:39,240 genuine skill and expertise of others, and fail to recognize their own mistakes and lack 590 00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:40,240 of skill. 591 00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:44,800 Let's be clear, incompetence has nothing to do with one's IQ. 592 00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:50,680 It is defined as not having or showing the necessary skills to do something successfully. 593 00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:52,240 And there is nothing wrong with that. 594 00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:55,000 How could we all avoid the Dunning-Kruger effect? 595 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:56,440 By learning. 596 00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:59,560 Come to a greater understanding of what it is you want to know about. 597 00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:03,360 Try to gain another's perspective by asking how you're improving on a topic. 598 00:26:03,360 --> 00:26:06,960 It's harder to compete with others when we have conversations with others about what 599 00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:07,960 we're new to. 600 00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:09,840 And if you don't know, ask. 601 00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:15,120 We could all do better about being vulnerable and asking about a topic that we don't understand. 602 00:26:15,120 --> 00:26:17,240 So don't be afraid to say I don't know. 603 00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:21,040 I love it, because honestly, I feel like that's such a big deal with adults. 604 00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:24,240 It's like people, again, I keep saying this, people are afraid to admit that they don't 605 00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:25,240 know something. 606 00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:26,720 I'm the first person to be like, what? 607 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:27,720 I'm sorry, what? 608 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:28,720 I have no idea what you're talking about. 609 00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:30,280 Can you please educate me? 610 00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:31,280 Right, yeah. 611 00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:32,280 I don't know what that means. 612 00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:33,280 Can you tell me? 613 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:34,280 Can you tell me? 614 00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:35,280 Do you love me? 615 00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:36,280 Do you love me? 616 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:37,280 Do you learn to love me? 617 00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:38,280 Can you learn to love me? 618 00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:39,280 That's a perfect time to put on a diet. 619 00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:40,280 Yeah, we're doing Baileys for it. 620 00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:41,280 We're doing Baileys for it. 621 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:42,280 Damn it. 622 00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:43,280 I've never drank Baileys from a shoe. 623 00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:46,280 I know what I'm saying. 624 00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:48,280 That's interesting though. 625 00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:53,280 Yeah, and you guys, I mean, if you're listening to this episode, you probably aren't like 626 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:56,960 the people that we're describing, because you probably want to learn new things, right? 627 00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:58,160 Well, you're learning right now. 628 00:26:58,160 --> 00:26:59,160 Good for you. 629 00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:00,160 Good for you. 630 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:01,160 Proud of you. 631 00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:02,640 I'm gonna take the last one. 632 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:04,880 Probably the most infamous one, deja vu. 633 00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:06,880 Oh, yes, obviously. 634 00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:09,280 Are you like, I've heard this before. 635 00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:11,280 Oh, does this sound familiar? 636 00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:13,680 I've been here before. 637 00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:19,040 Deja vu, meaning already seen, is a phenomenon I'm sure we've all experienced. 638 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:23,760 It is the feeling of being somewhere, hearing something or otherwise, that feels so familiar, 639 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:27,240 you swear you've experienced it before, but you kind of know you haven't. 640 00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:32,240 I don't think that you're gonna convince me that this isn't like my past life coming 641 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:33,240 back to me. 642 00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:34,240 You don't think so? 643 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:35,480 Well, the answer might terrify you. 644 00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:36,480 Oh, Jesus Christ. 645 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:37,480 I know. 646 00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:38,480 Oh, Jesus, go first. 647 00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:39,480 Jesus Christ. 648 00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:40,800 I told Cliff about it earlier, and he's like, don't tell me that. 649 00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:43,320 Oh, my no, okay. 650 00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:49,000 So this is still a phenomenon that has no scientific explanation, but there are some theories that 651 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:52,240 have been presented that have to do with the temporal lobe. 652 00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:53,480 Oh, God. 653 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:58,240 The temporal lobe is located above your ears on either side of your head in between the 654 00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:02,840 temples, or behind each temple, you know what I'm saying. 655 00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:07,680 The temporal lobe is responsible for quite a few things, including visual recognition, 656 00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:09,760 senses, and memory. 657 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:16,000 Deja vu tends to occur more often between ages of 15 to 25, and individuals who happen 658 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:20,280 to have a higher education, who travel more often and can still remember dreams the next 659 00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:22,600 day, and they also tend to be liberal. 660 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:25,920 That's the research that's out me, but they tend to be liberal people. 661 00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:30,640 Although deja vu is common amongst people, in very rare cases, deja vu can be linked to 662 00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:34,080 neurological disorders, like temporal lobe seizures. 663 00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:35,080 Awesome. 664 00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:38,240 Are you ready? 665 00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:42,360 Temporal lobe seizures can produce feelings of deja vu, signs that you might be having 666 00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:43,880 a temporal lobe seizure. 667 00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:44,880 Oh, God. 668 00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:45,880 You freaked me out. 669 00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:46,880 Versus regular deja vu. 670 00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:47,880 Versus the regular seizure. 671 00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:48,880 Like what? 672 00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:49,880 No. 673 00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:58,160 Set in unexplained feelings like joy or anger, problems controlling your muscles, twitching 674 00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:04,720 in your muscles, having sensations that involve visions, taste, hearing, smelling, touch, all 675 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:06,200 your senses. 676 00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:09,520 Feeling as though you're about to have a seizure, which, you know, that's great. 677 00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:11,800 That does not sound very fun, right? 678 00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:17,160 So it could, what you're saying is, when one experiences deja vu, it could actually just 679 00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:18,960 be a mini seizure. 680 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:19,960 Kind of. 681 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:20,960 Great. 682 00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:24,840 If it happens often though, and the only reason is because when temporal lobe seizures occur, 683 00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:28,120 it is in that same region where we would experience deja vu. 684 00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:30,800 And again, this is just a theory. 685 00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:31,800 Yeah. 686 00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:35,800 That it has to do with a temporal lobe because that's where all your senses lie and your 687 00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:36,800 memories lie. 688 00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:37,800 Your memory, yeah. 689 00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:41,280 And it's your brain short circuiting thinking like, oh, this feels familiar. 690 00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:45,600 It's giving you that sense of familiarity without you ever having to experience it. 691 00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:46,600 Okay, I got it. 692 00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:47,600 That makes sense. 693 00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:50,000 And like, you know, what you said, you're like, change my mind. 694 00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:51,640 I swear this is a past life. 695 00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:54,520 Or some people say I'm on the right path because I'm re-experienced. 696 00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:56,640 Like this is where I'm supposed to be. 697 00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:57,640 And things like that. 698 00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:00,400 Like people have all different kinds of explanations for it. 699 00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:05,640 But all it is, I think after reading this, it's your brain telling you this is familiar 700 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:06,640 when it's really not. 701 00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:07,640 When it's really not. 702 00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:08,640 It's just short circuiting. 703 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:13,000 I just, sometimes I go down a rabbit hole in my own brain and I think like, all of life 704 00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:19,080 has already happened for me and me currently is me laying in my deathbed and just reliving 705 00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:21,080 moments of my life. 706 00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:22,880 They have you on a machine right now. 707 00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:25,760 We're on a machine right now. 708 00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:27,120 It's the Matrix. 709 00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:29,120 And I get to watch my success. 710 00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:31,440 But I'm also like not alive. 711 00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:32,440 I don't know. 712 00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:33,440 Yeah. 713 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:34,440 No, I totally get what you're saying. 714 00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:36,240 We're uploaded into a consciousness somewhere. 715 00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:37,240 Yeah. 716 00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:38,240 Like I don't know. 717 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:39,240 It's just, I don't know. 718 00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:40,240 It's true. 719 00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:41,240 It's crazy. 720 00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:45,520 I've been talking about this whole episode is like how much your brain can convince you 721 00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:48,720 that something is happening or something that's real. 722 00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:50,760 You have an infinite amount of imagination. 723 00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:51,760 It's true. 724 00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:56,400 And if you really try hard enough, you can literally make your brain believe anything. 725 00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:57,840 You can not even believe anything. 726 00:30:57,840 --> 00:30:58,840 It's so true. 727 00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:00,400 That overview effect, one messes with me. 728 00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:01,400 Oh yeah. 729 00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:05,920 But before we wrap up, I did find this really interesting that there are other Dejas. 730 00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:11,760 So there's Deja Intendu, which already heard, which is already heard. 731 00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:14,320 Deja, these are all in French. 732 00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:16,760 I've never heard every single one of these. 733 00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:20,760 Deja Imprové already experienced. 734 00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:23,480 Deja Fait, which is already done. 735 00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:27,000 Deja Pense, which is already thought. 736 00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:31,520 Deja Reconde, I did not have a tongue for French. 737 00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:35,320 I have a tongue for Spanish, which is already recounted. 738 00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:40,000 Deja Sintai, which is already felt emotionally or already smelled, which I thought was really 739 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:41,480 interesting that it means both. 740 00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:42,480 Yeah, that is interesting. 741 00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:46,640 Like you already felt like how closely smell is related to memory. 742 00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:47,640 Yeah, absolutely. 743 00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:49,640 I love it. 744 00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:53,320 Deja Su, which is already known or you have the knowledge of. 745 00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:57,480 Deja Trové, which is already found. 746 00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:00,240 Deja Vecou, which is already lived through. 747 00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:02,760 And Deja Volo, which is already wanted. 748 00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:04,480 Dang, there's a lot of them. 749 00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:05,480 There's a lot of Dejas out there. 750 00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:08,960 There's a lot of Dejas that all we do is say Deja Vu. 751 00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:11,760 So mind your peace and queues. 752 00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:14,360 Find out what Deja you're talking about, because there's a bunch. 753 00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:16,680 I swear I've seen this before. 754 00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:18,560 Deja Vu, don't tell me that is. 755 00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:19,560 It is actually. 756 00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:20,880 Oh, Deja Vu is already seen. 757 00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:22,680 Oh, I've already seen this before. 758 00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:25,200 I could have said any other sense and that's the one I went with. 759 00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:26,200 I've already felt this before. 760 00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:30,600 I like the Deja Sintai, how do you say it? 761 00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:32,600 Sinti, Sinti. 762 00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:33,600 That's another little French. 763 00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:34,600 Sinti, Sinti. 764 00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:35,600 Right? 765 00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:36,600 Sinti, Sinti. 766 00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:37,920 But that's already smelled. 767 00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:43,360 And I would like that's, me and Cliff were talking about that earlier too, where it's, 768 00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:49,520 I've had so many of those where you smell something for the, you haven't smelled in 10 years, 12 769 00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:51,920 years, but it reminds you immediately. 770 00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:53,360 You know exactly what that scent is. 771 00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:54,360 Yeah. 772 00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:55,720 Did you only get one sniff and then it's gone? 773 00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:56,720 It's gone after that. 774 00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:59,800 I don't walk by someone with like a perfume that I used to wear in like high school and 775 00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:01,800 I'm like, that's that one perfume. 776 00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:04,800 Yeah, and I'll go around sniffing and I don't get it again. 777 00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:07,800 Yeah, people are like, what the fuck are you doing? 778 00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:08,800 Deja Sintai. 779 00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:09,800 That's it. 780 00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:10,800 Yeah, that was interesting. 781 00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:11,800 I liked that. 782 00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:20,800 Yeah, it's a little, it's a little bit of a, just a, a palette of different flavors there. 783 00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:21,800 So. 784 00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:22,800 Well, no, that was really interesting. 785 00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:24,800 And the fact that you said that there's a lot more, we definitely need to do another 786 00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:26,800 mental breakdown on that because that was really cool. 787 00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:28,800 There's a lot. 788 00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:33,800 Well, I was thinking during this episode, we should just go ahead and do ad free for 789 00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:36,800 all of the episodes leading up to the podcast con because it's a special week. 790 00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:37,800 Yeah. 791 00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:39,800 So you guys are going to get this episode completely ad free. 792 00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:43,800 What is doing intro music and outro music and we hope you enjoy three days of ad free, 793 00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:44,800 three days of ad free. 794 00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:45,800 I love that. 795 00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:46,800 Yep. 796 00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:47,800 For everyone. 797 00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:48,800 Oh, I'm so hungry. 798 00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:50,800 Okay, we'll talk to you guys later. 799 00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:51,800 All right. 800 00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:52,800 Love you guys. 801 00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:53,800 Bye. 802 00:33:53,800 --> 00:34:00,800 Bye.