And once freaking again, we see another Florida
team, number one in the Cup Finals, and number
two lifts Florida's family to keep it in the
Sunshine State. Down here stateside, where it
fucking belongs! Fourth time in the past six
years, a Florida team has won the Stanley Cup.
Because we just get so many different, like,
I know, I'm happy to keep it stateside, but that's
true to anybody else other than the state of
Florida. Please. Let's get a break from a little
bit. From Florida, from Edmonton, from Vegas
always making the Final Four, Dallas always making
the Final Four. Was it the last seven Cups eight
Atlantic Division teams have represented in the
Stanley Cup? You're like, wait a second. Where'd
the eighth team come from? Yeah, we know. Tampa
Bay, Montreal. Can't forget that one. Still the
weirdest format of... Yeah, it was just so weird.
I mean, just to hold that whole North division,
making the Canadian division a whole separate
from everybody else was what screwed everything
up and made it weird. Like, it's understandable
because Canada is their own separate entity from
the States. So, like, obviously with the whole
pandemic, you know, everybody's going to treat
it differently. But honestly, at the time, it
was definitely entertaining and interesting.
But it's just looking at it. Just how it was,
we could have seen. You could have seen Winnipeg
taking on Dallas, because both of them are at
the Central. We could have seen... I mean, I
guess the only way it could not have happened
would have been probably the Metro. I think that's
the only way you would have seen, stereotypically,
the same division playing against each other.
I guess you could have had maybe Pittsburgh -Carolina.
I think Carolina might have been in the Central
that year. Yeah, they were. So you could have
possibly seen Pittsburgh -Carolina, Philly -Carolina.
I know Philly, I think, was Rob Robin. I think
they were top four in the league that year. Yeah,
they... They were top four in the East at the
time. Either way, those are dark times. Those
are dark times. So maybe in the West you may
not have been able to see two from the same?
Well, Pacific, you could have done Vancouver.
Yeah, Vancouver and any of the California teams
or Vancouver. Vegas, you know. Any of those guys.
Yeah, it's very possible. Any division could
have seen two from the same. Same division playing.
Yeah. Yeah, it's their typical same division
in that Cup final. Yeah, I mean, the last six
years we've seen, what, Tampa, Tampa, Colorado,
Vegas, now Florida, Florida. Yep. I mean, each
of the last six years, Florida has represented
the Stanley Cup. So, I mean, yeah, but Florida
did the opposite of Tampa Bay, though. Tampa
Bay went back -to -back and then lost their third.
Yep. Florida lost their first and now have gone
back -to -back, so. I wonder how they're going
to end up doing next year. I think it all depends
on how many of these guys they're able to bring
back, how many guys re -sign, how many guys are
gone. So, no, they have a couple. I know Aaron
Eckblad's going to be an unrestricted free agent.
Also, Stan Bennett's going to be an unrestricted
free agent. Brad Marchand. I'm not too sure about
Seth Jones. I know he came over in the trade.
I'm not too sure how much slipped on his contract.
I believe there's one more. I don't think Barkov
is yet. But no, I'm pretty sure there's at least
one more on that team. supposed to possibly be
gone here. Seth Jones is good until the 29 -30
season. Oh, he's good until the 29 -30 season?
Yeah. Oh, damn. Okay. I think you should file
a sign and really get an eight -year deal. Same
thing with Kachuk through the 29 -30 season.
I knew Kachuk wasn't close. I knew Kachuk just
signed. Brian Harden, I'm pretty sure, isn't
good until like 29. I think Verheyen is. Verheyen
might be the one that's close. I think he has
like two or three more years or somewhat. If
I'm guessing. I know we already discussed this,
but Ekblad. Sasha Barkov is on... Oh, he's under
contract with Panthers to the 2030 -2031 season.
Yeah, he must have just signed like last year
then or two years ago. Like an eight -year deal
or something. Actually, maybe. He's starting
to get older. He's what, 29, 30 years old? I'm
sorry, no, I'm wrong. Yeah, through the 2029
season. Okay. Excuse me. Sam Bennett, I think
they're probably going to do whatever they can
to try to re -sign him. I think Bennett's going
to try to... If not... I don't think we discussed
this on recording last time, but I think we discussed
this when we got together and watched what was
it, Game 4? When we came here and watched Game
4? I think Boston would be a good place for Sam
Bennett. Just that, their type of play style,
just the whole, the way they play the game, I
think his style of play would fit in with Boston
very, very well. And they're obviously going
to have the room to fit him with all these guys
that they lost at the deadline. You know who's
going to be a UFA this year? Sergey Roborovsky.
That's okay, that is the other one. That's the
other big name. Sergey Bobrovsky is... Obviously,
you've got Vitek Vanacek as the number two right
now. But, again, he's no Bob. He's no Bob. You've
got to re -sign him after the way he played this
season's playoffs, man. In my opinion, I still
think he deserves a consummate on Sam Bennett.
Not only this year, but the past three years,
the Panthers... Not in the regular season, postseason,
cup finals, whatever. He has played... Out of
his fucking mind. I think he might have been
out the first year against Vegas. I think that
might have been why they lost. I could be wrong.
I think that's why. I thought he was in there.
Was he in there? I'm pretty sure that's why they're
out of struggles. I'm pretty sure he was in there
at one point. I knew he was hurt that year. At
some point in the playoffs. I want to say that's
when they had Spencer Knight in it. I want to
say. I want to say Brokowski played. The 22 -23
postseason, Brokowski played in 19 games, started
18 of them, and went 12 -6. Maybe he did, sir.
Majority of them. I mean. Maybe he played that
first. Maybe he was out for that final is what
I'm talking about. He only played 12 games. Just
trying to do a little bit of research here. They
did, well, 7, 12, 16, 21 games that postseason
for the Florida Panthers. Because they had 7
against Boston in that big upset, 5 against Tampa,
or not Tampa, Toronto, the sweep against Carolina,
and then game 5 against... So, like I said, 20...
I forgot that already. Who played the other couple?
I just forgot there wasn't Spencer Knight. Who
else did they have had that year? Obviously Bobby
Lee would have been long gone. He's been long
gone. Oh, man. I can't remember who they're up
to. I know they had one. Vinichuk wasn't there
yet. I think he might have been still in Washington.
Damn, yeah. Who did they have over there? I'm
trying to think, but nothing's coming to mind.
Someone else I think of is Bob and Knight. I
think that's another one of those years where
I think Vegas had six goalies on the ice for
celebration that year. Just ridiculous, because
they would have had Quick, and they would have
had Hill, Samson, I think they had Samson, Thompson.
Sergei, Spencer Knight was the backup. Because
that was the year... They also had Eric Stahl,
Rocco Gutis, Ryan Lomberg, Mark Stahl, Patrick
Hornquist, Chris Tierney, Alex Lyon was that
other goaltender that was in there. Lyon, okay,
Lyon. That makes sense then. Yeah, the Florida
Panthers this year, man, were just kind of new
to when he was getting past them. After that
third round, how they just absolutely manhandled
Carolina and how good Carolina looked through
the first two series. and they just did not have
a single problem with him. I mean, I thought
that everything was going to put up a little
bit more of a fight. I really thought we might
have seen a seven -game series there. Unfortunately,
we didn't. They just did not show up. Just did
not show up. Conor McDavid kind of very much
did not show up in the finals this year. Yeah,
so it was Alex Lyon who was in number two, so
that's probably why. In that playoff run, Bobrovsky...
All I'm getting is the same percentage, so Brobowski
was a 9 .15 and Mayan was an 8 .88. Oof, yeah.
So, very well, very well might have. Yeah. That's
very, very upsetting now that the hockey season
is officially over. Literally nothing to watch.
No hockey whatsoever. No OHL, no minor leagues,
no college hockey, even the PWHL obviously landed
about a month ago. We got nothing to watch right
now, man. The only thing we got excited for is
the draft this upcoming weekend. And then free
agency the following Monday, following Tuesday.
That's about all we got for hockey content for
a while. Which also means this is the last episode,
officially, of Season 5 of the Buckbuster Podcast.
Which is crazy to say. It literally feels like
yesterday we recorded the last episode of Season
1. And now here we are, you know, four seasons
later, you know, planning for season six to come
up here, probably October time. And that's just
the same thing. It's funny to think, like, how
much we've all grown over it. Yeah, man, we say
it every year. I think we say it in every season
finale, but just, I wouldn't say professionalism.
We're still very unprofessional. But when it
comes to the way we speak and act around each
other, it's definitely unprofessional. I think
the way we handle things, the way we go into
each week trying to plan things is definitely
more planned out than it was. Nine out of ten
times, at least, we still have at least an idea
of what we want to talk about going into an episode.
Back then, we literally just would show up that
night, wing it, do research an hour before we
hit record, bullshit for an hour with the testing
on, and then we'd finally start recording. It
would take us, all together, it would take us
probably three and a half to four hours to record
an hour and ten minute episode. Now here we are.
We hit record and maybe these days hit pause
once or twice during an episode and get an hour
and a half done in an hour and 45 minutes. Which
is crazy. Colin's got another blind ranking for
us here. Bring that back from what we did a couple
months ago. I was just trying to do a little
research on our conversation earlier. Mayan did
see some ice time in the cup final when Bob got
pulled in game two in a 7 -2 loss. Okay. So that's
the only time Lyon got some action. So Bob was
in for that 9 -3 final loss? Oh, wow. Damn. They
were like, yeah, we're just going to keep you
in, Bob. I know. Salvage whatever little confidence
you have left. Actually, there was one more thing
I wanted to talk about about the finals. So I
saw something with, like, comparing Pittsburgh's
back -to -back in 16 -17, Tampa's... 20 and 21,
and then obviously now Florida's 24, 25. Who
do you think was overall the better dynasty of
those three? Not Tampa because of the bubble.
That Stanley Cup doesn't count. Their team in
21 was really good, though. I have to say Florida
because... They were unstoppable all season of
these two years. They were just nobody. It feels
like that's a team you did not want to play.
If you were trying to play for a playoff spot,
you did not want to go and have to play that
because you're not going to win. You're going
to end up missing the playoff spot. They beat
the shit out of every team they played pretty
much in the first three rounds. I mean, last
year I think the first round when they were kind
of the – I think they were the wild card last
year when they barely beat Boston. No, that was
– Or was that the first round? Oh, yeah, that
was the 22 -23 when they lost. Last year and
this year, they've just been unstoppable. There's
never been a time where you think, oh, they might
lose this. You do not want to count them out.
Here's the thing. I feel like I can make a pretty
good counter -argument with the Penguins. Because,
like, granted, at the beginning of the 15 -16
season, after, you know, we had the coaching
changeover to Mike Sullivan. That's what I'm
saying. Just because we were not that good. I
think we were the 7th or 8th place team in the
first half of that season. They got hot at the
right time, just like they did in 08 -09. They
got hot at the right time. They picked up the
right piece. Schultz, Hagman, Bonino came in.
All the things you need to do to be good is fire
coach midseason. And then they have the same
pieces. They have the same team. Well, pretty
much the same team carrying over from their 16
Cup win to the 17 Cup win. Obviously, they already
signed Matt Calder one year. The best team out
of all six of those years might be the 2016 -2017
Penguins. That would be the best team on paper,
statistically, out of all those six. But if we're
going with Dynasty as a whole, the two years
as a whole, I might have to give it to Florida.
I would just love to do, like, a mashup between,
like, the prime team of the Penguins in 16 -17
and the prime team of the Panthers in 23 -24,
or 24 -25. Yeah. That second cup, the second
of the back. I think they're, this year, they
were so good. I know, just the deadline that
they had, too, man. Like, they were already a
good team, and at the deadline, they brought
in Seth Jones, they brought in Brad Marchand,
and there's one other one I think they brought
in at the deadline, too. You just knew that they
were saying, hey, we're going to go back to back.
We're not fucking around here. That's exactly
what they did. And if you want to fuck that around,
you'll find out. We're just a far better team
here. Easily. And the other question going into,
I guess we'll find out here in the upcoming weeks,
what's going to go on with Conor McDavid here?
Because he's going into this. Coming up, this
is going to be his final year of his contract.
This 25 -26 season is the final year of his contract.
What's going to be happening with him here? Are
they going to... I don't know. Is he getting
sick of it? Is he... You know, getting tired
of carrying the team? I know in his conference...
I mean, personally, I think Dreisaitl did more
of the carrying in these playoffs than he did.
I think so, too. Because I know he said in his
conference interview after the finals, they were
asking, are you... Because Edmonton can extend
him on July 1st. He said he's going to wait to
see what Edmonton is up, what they decide to
do this offseason. beginning of the season, and
I'll determine what he's going to do. I said
they desperately need help on the defense, but...
Go Tending! Go Tending! Go Tending on defense.
You have two fucking pylons in the net, or two
pieces of Swiss cheese in the net. You have three
pylons on the back end, three or four pylons
on the back end, and your number one defenseman
is a number four defenseman at best. Brett Kulak
and Darnell Nurse are your number one and two
defensemen. That's a problem. That's a problem.
See, the thing is, like, if they want to try
to bring in some help on the back end or between
the pipes, you can't really afford to give McDavid
that much more money. Like, more than he's already
making money. He's making $10 .5 million, $11
million right now. $10 .5 million. Can you afford
to make him, to give him that much more if you
need help? Yeah. Well, he's got to realize, like,
he's going to have to take a major pay cut if
he wants, number one, if he wants to stay in
Montana, and number two, if he wants to bring
people in to help. Yeah. I mean, you've got the
same situation over in Toronto with the... Well,
what was the core four? Now that's going to change.
But, like, you're spending a bunch of your money
on your core people, your core four for your
respective franchise. Imagine McDavid went to
Toronto. Imagine Millander, Matthews, and McDavid.
But let's stay on topic here for a second. When
you have two of these big franchises spending
a good chunk of your money on your respective
core fours... You're going to run into these
issues, and obviously it's a consistent thing
now. Not consistent goaltending, defense that
is lackluster in Hyotis, defense that is lackluster,
and you fall short in probably some of the biggest
stages, the highest pressure you're going to
get in your respective markets. Toronto's fucking
nuts. Their market's nuts. Their fans are nuts.
Their Royals, fuck. Don't get me wrong. They're
loyal as fuck. Steve Dangle, whatever he does,
however long he's been around, he's been loyal.
Empton, same kind of thing. But, like, they're
so stupid when it comes to spending their money.
I said they were stupid that they didn't go get
a goaltender at the deadline. They were even
asked, are you going to go get a goaltender?
They're like, no, we're going to stick with what
we got. And that's honestly what... I mean, I
don't think Stolarz was the problem there in
the playoffs. I think it's just the Maple Leafs
being the Maple Leafs. In fact, if they honestly
played anybody else other than Florida, I think
they might have very easily went to the conference.
It was four. I mean, the fact that they brought
four in seven games, after losing five and being
down three to two going into game six, they still
had that confidence and enough push to survive
that game six. Yeah, you can tell that Toronto
was a different team this year. They really were.
They were more confident going into these playoffs.
They were like, hey, we know we have the team.
This is our year. Let's go for it. My God, I
hate using that phrase. This is our year. Like,
no, okay, you're wrong. But that's a whole different
rant. And, yeah, the biggest problem was Mitch
Marner just, again, not showing up for the playoffs.
Not only Mitch. I think Matthews did better than
he has in years past. But he's still in the show.
Nylander, I think, was one of the bigger carriers
of this playoff. Only Nylander was your number
one guy this postseason. I think so. Hands down,
without debate. I know Matthew Nice was another
one that was somewhat contributor -ish. Is he
even going to be staying? Is somebody going to
try to... I know there's rumors going around
about possible offer sheets. That's right. He's
on his last year of his rookie contract. That's
the issue. They can have to sign him now or anybody
else can swoop on and offer sheet him. I'll do
this. I'd love it, but I don't think it's going
to happen. I don't think they want to be focusing
on defense here in this frame. They need to.
Especially if LeTang might be... LeTang may or
may not be back next year with his injury. With
his surgery, I mean, who knows? It depends on
his health. It depends on, you know, what we
do with Eric Carlson. You know, if we end up
dumping him off and even a good chunk of his
contracts. I know there's some speculations.
Regardless of what happens, we trade him. We're
going to have to retain him. We are going to
have to retain probably at least 25%. It's probably
going to be 50%, but it's going to be a minimum
of retaining 25 % of that salary. I mean, it's
what? 10 and a half mil. Make it as much as a
big date, which is fucking ridiculous. For a
30, what, 36 -year -old? Four or five years ago,
I'd have said, hell yeah, he deserves that, but
the last two years, you know, wouldn't spend
with Pittsburgh, you know. Any time between the
15 -16 season, and I want to say the 22 -23 season.
It's like his first one or two years with San
Jose, yeah. Like, yeah, sure, pay him the money
that he deserves, but now he doesn't deserve
it. And, again, prove me wrong, Carlson. Like,
go off and have a friggin' amazing year. Prove
me wrong. I'm going to keep using this, like,
in all, like, most sports, you know, that I consistently
watch. Prove me wrong. I challenge you. Make
me look like a jackass. I'm open to it. Knock
my ego down a couple pegs, because right now
it's at an all -time high. All right? It's going
to be a very interesting free agency to say this
year, especially. Florida's going to be one of
those teams to look at. Boston's going to be
one of those teams you want to watch. Pittsburgh,
honestly, is going to be a team that's going
to be in talks about who we can afford. Do you
not agree? I'm sorry. Yeah, what do you have
to say? Come here. Do you not agree with what
I'm saying? What do you got to say? Who do you
think needs to help out this year? Cheer for
your cats, Otis. Yeah, we won. You're a Panthers
fan now, aren't you? Who do you think needs some
help in free agency, Otis? Oh, now you're fucking
quiet. Now he doesn't know. Now he's put on the
spot. He doesn't know. Your ego needs to be knocked
out a couple pegs, huh? Who's yes? You want me
to talk? I haven't been proved wrong yet, so
thank you. Very much right, honestly. It's going
to be interesting. Once trades open up here,
I think that honestly might be a little crazier
to start than the deadline for the agency might
be. I think we're going to see a lot of big unexpected
trades to happen. I mean, we've already seen
a few trades go down. A couple of smaller ones
I know. Andre Bercossi going over to Chicago
is one of them. Mason Marshman going to Seattle.
Seattle. Was that part of that trade? No. Yeah,
it was that. Dallas and Seattle. I was going
to say that. Chicago, Seattle. One going to Seattle
is Joe Frino. Eric Hall going to Nashville, I
believe, was the one I saw. Marshman, hold on,
it's the Marshman trade. Yeah, Eric Holla going
to Nashville. Yeah, so Nashville gets Eric Holla,
Jersey receives Jeremy Hanzel, and a fourth rounder
in 25. Hanzel is one of them. He's like a 29
-year -old guy. He's been pretty much spent his
whole career in the AHL and hasn't really shown
many signs of making it up, so Nashville really
did not give up that much to bring in Eric Holla,
who's, what, 34, 35 now? I mean, honestly, didn't
give up that much for, you know, a 35 -year -old
veteran to help out that forward core that really
struggled this past year, which we really thought
Nashville was going to be a team to watch. I
mean, what were the three names they brought
in? Stevenson, Marcheseau, and Stamkos, right?
Big disappointment. That's definitely one of
the biggest flops this year with Nashville. Just
watch. The one flop that I don't want to happen,
but I can kind of see it happening, is the Johnny
Tate signing in fucking Winnipeg. That's going
to be insane once that officially goes through.
I know it's one year, $2 million. Rumors are
one year between one and two mil. Nothing's been
announced yet. I'm guessing upwards of $5 .5
to $6 million worth of bonuses, depending on
personal performance, overall Jets team performance.
And depending on how postseason goes as well.
So, like, that could be big for someone like
your veteran experience in Jonathan Tays from,
you know, one dynasty in that Chicago team in
the early 2010s. I think if he plays at least
30 games, he gets, like, $550 ,000. And then
every 10 games that he plays up to 60, I think,
at least, then another $550 ,000. And then playoffs,
I think if they win the first round and he plays
at least 50 % of the games, it's another 550%.
Same for second round and all the way to the
finals. If he plays at least 50 % of all those
games, they make it all the way to the cup final,
and they win the cup final, I think he wins another
million. It's something along those lines. I
thought I had it here somewhere. But either way,
once it's officially... Like, said and done.
You know, dots the I's, crosses the T's. I almost
said dots the T's and crosses the I's. Dots the
I's, crosses the T's. Pacers hometown team, which
would be nice. Maybe they'll get over the hump.
Maybe Connor will actually, you know, do good
in the playoffs. All the playoffs. But, you know,
he's almost as big of a joker as Austin Matthews.
But prove me wrong! Connor? Austin Matthews.
No, Connor Hellebuck. Oh, okay. I thought you
were talking about McDavid. I'm like, we're talking
about Winnipeg. No, no, no, no, no. Yeah, you
heard Connor. It's just Hellebuck versus McDavid.
I'm just used to hearing, like, Helle, you're
Hellebuck. I'm like, I'm not really used to hearing
just his first name. I thought you said Connor
Hellebuck. I was like, Kyle Connor did really
well. No, he did. It's just goaltending half.
That seems like it's a pretty big... Like, a
pretty consistent storyline this postseason is
your goaltending... Is your number one factor.
Okay, now you disagree again? How much playoffs
have you seriously watched? That's what I thought.
Yeah, exactly. Not as much as us. Like, obviously
goaltending, you know, screwed Edmonton over.
Goaltending screwed Winnipeg over. That's going
to be a question if he's going to be the number
one when the Olympics come around. That's a story
for January. Golden was inconsistent for Carolina
there in the third round. We had one good game
from Anderson, but other than that. Oh, yeah.
In the first two rounds, he was pretty good.
I think he had one rough game in the second round,
but other than that, they went right through.
Who did they play in the second round? Washington.
Yeah, they lost game two. Which was pretty rough
from Anderson. Yeah, but otherwise, it was like,
you know, a little blemish on an otherwise perfect
series for him. And again, they ran into the
Florida Panthers. If they didn't run into Florida,
who knows what could have happened there. That
just shows how good the team Florida Panthers
were. I mean, Skinner really did look pretty
solid throughout the entirety of the playoffs
until Florida came in. With the exception of
games 1 and 2 versus LA. Yeah. Because then he
really tanked. But after that, he was... Once
he regained the net after the second round. Yeah.
Because I think Picard finished the rest of the
first round against LA. And then they were back
and forth. Back and forth in the second round.
Whew. Yeah, that's pretty much a thing about
every team that ran into, every goalie that ran
into Florida. Just did not do well. Vasilevsky
might have been some of the worst hockey we've
seen him play. Who did he play? Florida. Toronto.
I mean, it's Toronto, but who did they play?
That's a very low bar for Toronto goaltending,
I hope you know. Very low. The Stars looked very,
very solid in the first round. They took care
of Ottawa pretty easily. I think they lost one
game. No, two, because they went to six. Did
Toronto go to six? I thought they went to six.
They might have, okay. Hold on. Let me double
check that. But he looked pretty solid in that
series. And then second round, he looked pretty
solid those first two games, and then... Toronto
decided to pull Toronto. I think they lost the
next three, and then Toronto forced seven with
a game six win. I think Stoller's still pretty
damn good in game seven. Yeah, they lost in six.
Okay. Toronto's defense just stopped showing
up there in game seven. I remember I think they
scored, what was it, three goals in a matter
of like four minutes or something like that.
And just all downhill from there. Yeah, Toronto
got outscored 12 -4 in the final three games.
Two of which being in fucking Toronto. Out of
places. We're kind of doing like a seasonally
review here. What were some other teams that
did not live up to what you thought they were
going to be this year? Like some disappointing.
I know as we kind of briefly mentioned, Nashville
was big. The other one was Boston for me. Boston
was bad. They just collapsed. They just collapsed,
like, what, February, March, and they're like,
time to sell, and they got rid of, what was it,
Carlo, Marchand, I think it was one other guy
they got rid of. Was it Trent, not Trent, February.
Coyle. Charlie Coyle, that was the other one,
yeah. And then the injury to McAvoy during formations
definitely didn't help their cause. Makes me
think, I know they're not talking about possibly
shopping Swayman now, like, just talk about just
that downfall, man. Like, just... That one was
more just out of nowhere. Like, Nashville, I
think, from the beginning of the year, they just
did not have it. No. But Austin started off decent
and just fell off, man. Just horrible. I mean,
Nashville, you know, started like crap. And they
did kind of level out a little bit after, like,
the holiday break that turned the calendar year.
But, like, they just weren't Nashville. Even
their veterans, the people that have been on
the team for a couple years now, weren't themselves.
Take away O 'Reilly and Stammer and Marcheseau
or whatever. They just weren't Nashville. One
team that did surprise me, though, and I'm really
happy for. is the Columbus Blue Jackets. Yeah,
I mean, they did what? A couple points out of
the playoffs? It came down to the second to last
day or third to last day. The last couple days,
regardless. But, like, they did exceptionally
well for the amount of stuff they were put through
at the beginning of the season, even before camp
started. You know, all the way back to, you know,
the loss of Jonathan Goudreau, you know, and
then be like, okay, you get an exception. We
know you're going to well below the base strength,
the salary minimum. Your excuse. They were just
playing a lot. A lot together. You could tell
just watching that team. Each and every game
they were playing for something. Obviously you
know what it was. But you could tell they were
playing for something. And they were fighting
tooth and nail. Even their very last game. They
were there. They were competing. We know we're
not competing for a playoff spot. could be for
ourselves, our fan base, and the city. I think
American hockey as a whole was playing. I think
the World Juniors, they had a jersey out for
them. Four Nations, they had the jersey out and
had a stall for them. The whole, just, USA hockey
as a whole was playing for Johnny Pedro. I'll
say the Columbus Blue Jackets even more so. Other
two teams that came to mind that surprised me
were the other two right in the bubble there
battling with Columbus being Montreal and Ottawa.
Yeah. Watch how, like, finally it's shown, like,
they're starting to get competitive. Those younger
guys are starting to come in clutch. You know,
obviously, Lane Hudson being in addition was
being a major help for them. And this is only
the beginning. I think he was the Calder winner,
wasn't he, Lane Hudson? I think he had won the
Calder, didn't he? He did. Yeah, okay, he had
won the Calder. That's why I thought it. Obviously,
the younger guy, Cole Caulfield, had an outstanding
year. We're at number 13 honoring Johnny. And,
like, it just shows that, like, Montreal's in
this for the long haul. Like, if they keep playing
the way that they're playing, keep building the
way that they're building, keep performing the
way they want to perform, Martin St. Louis and
that Montreal team, man, they're going to be
a force to reckon with here. The fact that, sure,
they made the playoffs again, like, just this
past year, sure, they got cut. pretty much got
screwed around by Washington, but that was just
because with Washington getting into the young
Canadians, like, they were just getting underneath
the capsules and getting underneath their skin,
but you could just tell that they're finally...
Wow. I'm sorry. I'm just laughing at the fucking
Tom Wilson picture that was photographed for
a couple weeks there. Oh, my God. I still love
it. One of the teams going out west, the only
west team that I think that surprised me that
they did, as well as they did with St. Louis.
St. Louis did very, very well. I mean, obviously,
that first round exit, but you brought the President's
Trophy champions to seven games, a double overtime.
In game seven. In seven games, I mean, yeah,
you blew a two -goal lead with a minute and a
half left. But, I mean, again, you brought the
President Trophy winners to seven games. Like,
I didn't expect St. Louis to be able to push
seven. Which I think they would be the last team
to make it in, I believe. So, if you make it
in, like, last day, you win your last game, then
squeeze into the playoffs. You're like, fuck,
now we've got to play the President of the Strophy
Champions. What did we just do to ourselves?
But you're still pushing the seven games. Oh,
that game seven between those two might have
been the best game of the playoffs, man. Initially,
I wasn't that excited. That was probably one
of the few series I wasn't that excited for,
but it ended up... Turned out to be one of the
better ones. Jordan Bennington definitely had
a resurgence, if you can say that, from his rookie
season. Ever since Four Nations was definitely
that huge kick in the ass that I... confidence
booster that he really needed. Like, yo, I think
I'm good now. He played extremely, extremely
well. He's part of the reason that they made
it that far. I think, honestly, that's where
the turning point was for St. Louis. That's where
the turning point for Jordan Binnington was.
Because right before that, they were just...
Yeah, mid lane. And the first thing that comes
to mind are those two saves he made in the overtime
in the Four Nations final. Yeah. Back -to -back
shots. I think one was from Eichel in the next
one. I think it was a slapper from the blue line,
so I don't remember who it would have been, but
maybe like Adam Fox or something. But just back
-to -back saves, covered it, blew the whistle,
off the faceoff, took a slapper, made another
sprawling glove save. I don't know, I think it
was like, what, three minutes later is when McDavid
scored the winner. Yeah, St. Louis is definitely
the other one for me. I think it's going to future
me break for them next season for sure. If they
can play as well as they did the second half
of last season all year, they have a chance to
maybe take that division, honestly. It's going
to be tough with teams like Dallas in there.
You've got Dallas, Colorado, Winnipeg, all that
you've got to run through. I mean, that's also
a tough division. I mean, obviously not as tough
as the Atlantic, but that's – well, no, the Atlantic
is starting to get weaker now. I would honestly
say the Central might be up there for one of
the Metro now. Yeah, it's just... I don't know.
You can make that argument, which one's stronger,
Central or Atlantic. Because it was there for
the longest time, it was the Metro. The Atlantic,
the last few years, kind of took that away, and
then now, obviously, as we mentioned, the Central's
kind of been, I think, the most competitive.
Sorry, the cat's on one right now. Am I going
to have to hang that jersey a little bit higher?
I might have to hang three jerseys up a little
bit higher if he's going to be in here. Actually,
no, they're probably just souls, Joe. Do you
guys happen to have your season predictions from
the beginning of your stills saved? Oh, holy
crap. I want to put these up and see just about
how off we were. The only divisional line that
was decent -ish was the central. Other than that,
I guess my Pacific was decent. Actually, my Pacific
was really pretty good, actually. I actually
still have it. You still have yours? Yep. I'm
guessing, like we always did, the West and then
go over to the Atlantic. Who did you have Pacific
in order from 1 -8? I had the Sharks in Glass,
the Ducks 7th, the Flames 6th, the Kraken 5th,
the Kings 4th, the Canucks 3rd, Vegas in 2nd,
and then the Oilers in 1st. You and I were the
exact same, but I had Edmonton Vegas switch.
I don't know. I might not have it. You don't
have yours? If not, that's fine. We'll go back
and look at actual. The Pacific was actually
from 8 -1 with San Jose, Kraken, Anaheim, Vancouver,
Calgary, Edmonton, LA, Vegas. So, I mean, my
top four were pretty good, and then bottom four
were pretty good, just a little bit swapped around.
Central, who did you have from 8 -1? I had Chicago,
the Blues in seventh, Wilds sixth, Utah fifth,
the Predators fourth, the Jets third. They asked
second and the Stars first. That one, you and
I were exactly the same. So, yeah, it just showed,
man, how much little faith we had in St. Louis.
And they were, what, ended up fourth, I think?
Fifth. Yeah, that's right. Five teams from the
Central Mates this year. The real was Chicago,
Nashville, Utah, St. Louis, Minnesota, Colorado,
Dallas, Winnipeg. So, again, top four, bottom
four were getting pretty close, but just a little
bit rearranged besides St. Louis being in seventh.
The Atlantic, what did you have? I had the Canadiens
in eighth, the Senators seventh, the Sabres sixth,
the Rangers fifth, the Lightning fourth, the
Leafs third, the Bruins second, and the Panthers
one. I had Buffalo, Montreal, Ottawa, Tampa Bay,
Toronto, Detroit, Boston, Florida. I had too
much faith in Florida this year, man. I'm honest.
They were only five points out of the playoffs
this year. I'm honest. Even though I had... Montreal
8th. I'm kind of glad they proved me. Again,
that's another one. They proved us wrong. I had
them 7th. The real was Boston, Buffalo, Detroit,
Montreal, Ottawa, Florida, Tampa, Toronto. Which
is crazy to think Boston of all teams got to
be at the bottom there. And then Metro, who did
we have? Metro, I had Columbus on the 8th, DeCaps
on the 7th. I don't know what else to think of
DeCaps. Because we were going to make stuff up
last. Yeah. We're not very good. The Penguins
sixth, the Islanders fifth, the Flyers fourth,
the Devils third, the Hurricanes second, and
the Rangers won. Yeah. That's another one because
it was a disappointing team was the Rangers.
Oh, yeah. I'm happy they played like shit. I'm
glad they did. But they were just a disappointing
team. I had Columbus, Philly, New Jersey, Pittsburgh.
Washington. So I guess I had a little more faith
in Washington. Islanders, Rangers, Hurricanes.
Which, again, top four, bottom four weren't horrible,
but except me having the Rangers up in second.
Yeah, the real was... We said the real? No, we
didn't. Philly, Pittsburgh, Islanders, Rangers,
Blue Jackets, Devils, Hurricanes, Capitals. Which,
I mean, the Hurricanes were only... Sorry, the
Columbus was only what? at one game out of the
playoffs yeah they came down that final day they
would have won one more game and they would have
had 91 points and might have seen some sort of
tiebreaker there yeah man crazy crazy season
it feels like a hockey every year just gets crazier
and crazier every single year it gets more and
more exciting every single year so much fun it's
one that i always look why i love like how it's
why it's getting longer it's just Like, he gets
through almost the entire year. It's the best
sport. It really is. There's no argument for
it. You can't change my mind. Nothing will. I
tell you, that's going to be hard to beat on
all six. Like, that's not going to change my
mind. Like, Clocky is by far the best. Colin,
finally, let's do your blind ranking here. About
fucking time. Jesus Christ. I've been waiting
over here for, like, 30 minutes now. All right.
It's not really blind rankings because we're
ranking the last 10 Stanley Cup champions. So
we're going to go back in time. We're going to
go the 25 Panthers team. All right. And they're
up there. We kind of already touched up on it.
They were one of the best. One of the best dynasties.
I mean, honestly, do you mind? We were just talking
about the Dynasties, but you still got... You
got the 23 Avalanche in there. You got the 22
Avalanche. You got the 22 Avalanche in there.
You got the 18 Capitals in there. 19 Blues. 19
Blues. I mean, they were more than wild. There
were a lot of cartoons that year, by the way.
But still, I mean... Then you got the... Obviously,
the Kings is 12 and 15. Well, this would only
go back to 15. Oh, 15. The Penguins or the Blackhawks?
16. Penguins? Okay. Yeah. So, first of the two
packed back. So, 25 Panthers, I'll put... I'd
say they're... They're definitely top two, I
would say. I'd say at least top two, top three,
of course. I'd say probably three. Stop freaking
throwing the curtain, dummy. I'd say probably
three. Three? Yeah. I'll top throw them. There
it is. Alright, obviously then the 24 Panthers.
The 4 Panthers again. That's another one. They
were just as good. I think this team was way
better though. I think the 25 team was much better.
Yeah. I'd probably put this one maybe down 6
or 7. What do you think we have? I'd say seven.
Seven? Okay. All right, then we got the 23 injured
reserve. That's a really good team, though, man.
That's a really good team, too. Again, because
of that, I mean, they kind of cheated, like,
legally cheating this system. which is a very
cheap way to do it, but they kind of found a
loophole and ran with it, and it worked. They
made it work, and they kind of... I mean, it
doesn't take away from the fact that they were
a really good team, though. But were they better
than those 25 Panthers, or maybe, instead of
the 23 Avalanche, the 17 Penguins, the 18 Capitals?
I'd say put them at 5. Wait, did we say seven
for 24 Panthers? Yeah. Oh, sorry. Yeah, so that's
it. Wait a second. All right, the 22 Avalanche.
Yeah, that's one of them that's either one or
two. Were they the best? They might have been,
man. They were a good team. They took the back
-to -back Stanley Cup champions and beat them
in what? Was it five? Or was it six? It was in
six. Still, man, you take down the back -to -back
winners with not much difficulty. They might
be the best, though. Yeah, it was in six games.
Six. I don't think they did it in Tampa. Yep.
I would think that for a second. Are they the
best? I'd say they might be. I'd say no worse
than four, but I would definitely say at least
top two for sure. Alright, then he got the two
back -to -backs, the 2020 and 2021 Lightning.
The 2021 Lightning were definitely way better
than the 2020. The 2020, I think, is 10. Just
based off of, I mean, it counts, but for what
measures? I mean, that could have been anybody's
year. They just kind of have to be the ones that
got lucky and took it all. 21. Did we put them
at six or did we put them at eight? That's where
I was going back and forth on six. We still got
the two Penguins team. I think they were better
than the 16 Penguins. I think the 17 Penguins
might be the number two spot. Are you really
putting the 18 caps below that? I think yeah,
I think they'd be a good four spot. But, oh man.
Cause I'm trying to think who it is. Or miss.
So Blues, Caps, Penguins. Man, this is tougher
than I thought. So the 21 bullets, I think put
them at 8? Yeah. Then obviously you got the 19
blues. I'd put those probably at about... That'd
be the 6? I'd be 26 and 9. Let's see, how many
more of the... 16 Penguins is that bad to be
9? That's why I said I'm trying to... Because
obviously... That team as a whole, I mean, that's
one, they didn't really start picking it up until
the second half of the season. That's why I'm
bad before doing one put. We're going to get
called biased for putting Penguins in the top
two, but... I'd say put the Blues 6, and then
the Penguins is 6. So the 18 caps would be 4
then? Yeah. And the 17 pens too? I think that's
pretty fair. And yeah, there was no beating for
18 caps. Oh, sorry. There was no beating that
17 -pence team. I mean, we were just unstoppable
out here. Malkin played some of the best hockey
he'd ever played. Rookie Gensel playing, you
know, like a young guy. He's still playing just
as good, but Gensel was on fire. Crosby did really
well the first three rounds. We love Crosby,
but he never shuts up in the finals. You can't
say he does. I mean, goaltending tandem. prime
Matt Murray and obviously prime Marc -Andre Fleury.
Well, obviously Fleury didn't really get the
chance to play in the 16 Cup run, but he was
the reason why they made it. He played the first
two rounds and then the first couple games of
the third round. He started to struggle and then
Murray came in and carried him the rest of the
way. He played well in games one and two at home
and games three in Ottawa, but then game four,
Murray stepped in. And then Murray just took
over from there. Obviously, the Penguins wouldn't
be there. I mean, granted, they were down, you
know, 2 -1 in the series against Ottawa in 17.
But, you wouldn't be down 2 -1 in the series
against Ottawa in the third conference finals
without a Mark Roderick Fleury. Yeah. That angle,
that goal -tending tandem alone, I think, took
the Penguins in second. Oh, yeah. It was one
of those, like, Fleury went down, you're like,
ah, we don't have much to worry, we have Murray,
you know. Not many teams, not many teams, well,
not just good, but any team, period, can say,
oh, you have a 1A, 1B goaltender. You can play
anyone, any given night. You know you have a
solid goaltender. Just like back in the day when
you had Prime Crosby, Brian Malkin, you were
a 1A, 1B centerman. Oh, no. You know, one of
us matched up against, you know, their top defensive
pair, and that's it? Like, the other team only
has one good defensive pair? Your other center
might just take it up and be like, okay, I am
your leader now, Damon. I will lead the way.
You scared the shit out of me. Come here, Bubba.
I mean, Marc -Andre Fleury, I mean, from the
time I was 12, 13, 14 years old, I was defending
him just constantly. You know, my dad was one
of those, you know, when Fleury had that kind
of rough strife where he wasn't... The best from,
what, like, 2011 to 2014? Yeah, yeah. He wasn't
his best. He definitely wasn't as good as he
was in his early days, and then, you know, 15
to 20, you know. The dark ages, as I like to
call them. You got the injury years between Crosby
and Malkin. You got the routine cast of characters,
the bottom six, you know. You were kind of in
between the two identities of, you got the prime
Bilesma days, and then you got the prime Sullivan
days. Those two through. When I was that age,
my dad was one of those big, oh, Fleury sucks
now, he sucks now, we've got to get rid of him,
his time's down, it's time to get rid of him.
I was like, we suck, our team sucks. Give him
time, he's going to come back around. He's the
best goalie we've ever seen in our franchise,
for a reason. Since Tom Brasso. Three years later,
he goes back to back. I mean, for reasons. I
mean, and almost went three in a row with a different
team for the third year. But, you know, fell
short, too. You know, that fourth at 18 caps,
you know. Should have been a part of that 23
Knights team, but that's how it happened. You
know, they decided to say, fuck you. Let's not
talk about that right now, okay? I'm still a
little bit salty for good reasons. That's how
they treated him, yeah. Hey, we know you're the
face of the franchise for a couple years. Minnesota
made up for them. Minnesota treated him very,
very well. You can't really say that they treated
him well or not. He was there long enough. You're
like, hey, you're a great locker room presence.
Hey, you can be a great leader, but we're not
going to use you for that long. Minnesota was
like, come here, we will treat you like king.
They did. His whole farewell tour this season
was just... So emotional. It's tough to say,
man. I don't know hockey without Marc -Andre
Fleury playing. No matter what team he plays
for, I don't remember hockey without Marc -Andre
Fleury being on the bench or on the ice. Because
as of recording Sunday, June 22nd, the Penguins
did a rewind on the 21st. They did a rewind that...
Like back 22 years ago, yet on the 21st, it was
when they officially drafted Marc -Andre Fleury.
I would have been three years old when he was
drafted by the time he started seeing real good
ice time. It would have been, what, 2005, 2006
when Crosby came in? Keep in mind, nine more
days, you will be under NHL contracts. Nine more
days, you'd be considered a professional. Sign
with the Pittsburgh Penguins. One day, officially
retire as a Pittsburgh Penguin. Join our front
office. Be an assistant goaltenders coach. I
know I think we signed one, but I don't care.
Be an assistant goalies coach. Just be that locker
room presence. Every locker room needs one. I
don't care who the frick it is. Like, who it
is and he has a locker room. Be the Zamboni driver
and maybe you can come in and be the emergency
goaltender at some point. No, just watch. It's
going to be a game against Philadelphia and Pittsburgh
and he's going to have to suit up in that fucking
ugly ass orange and black. Go be the Zamboni
driver for the Wilkes -Barre Scranton Penguins.
He could be the 42 -year -old Zamboni driver.
Number 29. They already have a jersey for him.
They wouldn't even need to make another jersey.
Again. If Kyle Dubas is smart, he would do this.
He would do it. I hope he fucking hears me down
in Pittsburgh, wherever he lives. He would do
this. For the goodness of Pittsburgh's soul.
For every sports franchise in Pittsburgh, as
good or as shit as they are. If that happens,
I honestly don't fucking care what happens to
the Penguins next season. I honestly don't know
if I would care. I'd be like, I'm happy he...
If he were to officially say, hey, I'm retiring
as a Pittsburgh Penguin, just full circle, I
can die happy. I could die that day and I'd be
happy. Yeah, the whole season, just for the last
game in Pittsburgh, they did something for him.
I think his last game in Vegas, they did something
for him. His last game in Montreal, they did
something for him. His last regular season game
for the Wild, they did something. I think he
came in for overtime and ended up winning the
game for him. Yeah. And then his last game of
the playoff run, too. I think that when they
lost to Vegas, I think, wasn't it? They did something
for him there, too, man. His last game against
Washington. Yeah, I was going to say. From the
bench. No, get your asses back out here. I don't
care if I have to drag you back out by your manhood.
You're coming out here and you're shaking this
guy's hair. I know they've had that love -hate
relationship with each other. I mean, it's more,
I definitely think it's more like a respectful
hate, if that makes sense. Like, you know, I
just, I hate playing against you because you
always fucking score on me. It was how floor
you felt for him, you know? I think he was like,
I'm just so happy you didn't score 895 on me.
I think that's what he had said. Something like
that. He was like, what's your opinions on Gretzky
finally breaking the goal record? He goes, well,
I know I had a good fair share to do with that.
So I think he was the OB's number one goalie
that he scored on. Yeah, his top three were Price
and Lundqvist. Lundqvist was two and Price was
number three. Obviously the two in your division
that you played in your division for your entire
career. Imagine if Flyer probably would have
been a lot higher if he would have stayed with
the Penguins the whole time. He would have been
probably well over 100 and scored on Fleury.
I think it was like 80 -something or 70 -something,
80 -something he scored against Fleury. I don't
remember. It was quite a few. It's tough. It's
going to be tough next year knowing that, wow,
Fleury's not backing somebody up tonight or Fleury's
not going to be on the bench that way. Maybe
he changes his mind and does one more. Who knows?
We've seen. seen tom brady do it but i said it
was just like watching flurry like just highlights
and just watching it's just i could always put
a smile on my face like seeing like just i mean
i still get chills from that 2009 last second
sprawling saving and nick lindstrom of all people
that's to this day is probably my favorite um
flurry saving that to this day still It's my
favorite flurry save. He even said that he had
a big old bruise the size of a puck on his chest.
Like, right, right, like, I don't know. For a
while after that, yeah? Yeah. It didn't glitz
or not. It was probably a good 90 -something
mile an hour slap shot from the point there.
Going from one side of the crease to the other,
just doing that. That's still, to this day, that
call from Doc. Doc ever calling it, too? Just...
chills, man. Just unbelievable. And everybody
on the bench was like, oh god, Flower, please
fucking get over it. Just keep going over it.
Bill, Bill, Bill Gator is like, oh god, it's
that strong. Shit. Yeah, I remember just watching
that DVD documentary of that. They're just watching
every second. Every second felt like hours ticking
off of that clock. And you have the final face
-off with eight seconds left. Six and a half.
Six and a half. I think Rafalski might have,
you know, Rafalski gets it over to Lidstrom,
and then you're like, oh, fuck, it's Lidstrom.
I mean, that could have been, who knows? Again,
who knows what happens if he scores that goal?
Who knows? Obviously, that goes to overtime.
Does Detroit go back -to -back again and win
that year? Is Marc -Andre Fleury considered one
of the greats if he lets that goal in? It's crazy
to think. I think I told this story once before,
but I just remember because I was, you know,
8, 9 years old, you know, games start at 8 o
'clock, so I was probably pushing midnight by
the time that's happening. But it was in the
summer, we were done with school, but I still
wasn't allowed to stay up that late. But where
we lived at the time, where my parents live now,
where my mom lives now, my bedroom was at the
end of the hallway, and I could sit at the end
of the hallway with a perfect clear shot of the
TV. So if I wanted to watch the game, I'd just
sit at the end of the hallway, just stay very,
very quiet, and I could get a perfect shot of
the TV and watch it happen. And that's exactly
what happened. I could just sit at the end of
the hallway and just watch it happen. Just try
to silently cheer. I think I let out a little
bit too loud of a cheer. My dad looks around
the corner, and I'm sitting at the end of the
hallway like, yeah! I actually remember I was
just sitting in the middle of where I was living
at the time with my mom. Sitting in the middle
because... middle of the floor like watching
him like just like this I'm like come on come
on come on like after I'm like I jump I'm like
yes yes yes we had like just moved into that
into that you know this house where we were at
so we were at the Steelers Super Bowl a couple
months prior you know we were at a different
place and I wasn't able to do that but I was
allowed to stay for that one because the Super
Bowl would end by like 10 o 'clock I was allowed
to stay for that one Another funny story about
that one. This is going off topic because it's
not hockey, but it's the last episode of the
season. It was just bullshit. This is Super Bowl,
you know, Super Bowl 43, Steelers -Cardinals,
obviously. Still incredible. Larry Fitzgerald
takes that touchdown to the house with like two
and a half minutes left. I remember my dad, I
think he almost fractured his wrist because he
punched the couch so fucking hard when that happened,
thinking the game was over. Obviously, Ben Roethlisberger
does, you know, final last two -minute drive
of the game, Ben Roethlisberger things. goes
down and wins it for us. I was going to say,
I think mine was, my almost, like, got kicked
out of the house was the 2017 double OT winner.
Cooney scored. Probably out of your, like, how
out of your meaning for it? Yeah, I see that
knuckler going. It's, like, 11, 30, 12, maybe
nights. Well, it's double overtime, so it's probably
closer to 12, 31. Yeah, and, like, watching it
down on the bedroom of my parents' place, like,
their ceiling's high, so, like, Talk like this,
and echoes. But, you know, everybody was in bed.
I see that puck going. I get up and I'm like,
LET'S FUCKING GO! And my one brother walks out,
my dad walks out, and they're like, what? I'm
just like, THEY FUCKING WON! Like, I was going
nuts. I was laying on the couch watching him,
and I fucking fell asleep, so I fucking missed
it. I just woke up and it was the post -game,
like, them, you know, sitting at the table just
talking about it. I was like, bitch. It was kind
of funny. It was similar to what Collins, because
where I'm living at now, like, my house is not
soundproof. I can hear anything. Like, I can
hear the neighbors, like, TV or the hallways,
like, when the door opens or whatever. I'm alone
with the bed. I'm like, it was late at night,
too. I'm like... And I screamed to him. I'm like,
she's like, what? It's like, it's quiet. I'm
like, sorry. I was like, sorry. I remember screaming
pretty loudly with Horny's go -ahead goal in
game six of the finals that same year. Got pretty
loud for that one, I remember, too. It was like,
holy fuck, that went in. Like, he just, like,
everybody was shocked. Like, nobody knew it went
in. Like, off the backside. Marty was the only
one that knew it went in. Off the backside of
Rene. You know. Off the post, off his back. And
he just kind of, like, backed it into the net.
I don't know if it's controversial because then
I think, but I think it was, like, a minute into
the second period, the one that. Ref lost sight
of it right behind Murray, but it was still free.
Yeah, and they were able to poke it in, but he
blew the whistle just before them. Yeah, because
he lost sight of it. I mean, that's the rule,
though. I mean, you lose sight of the puck, you
blow the whistle. That's the rule. I think the
unfortunate thing was the ref was still in the
corner versus, like, he should have been behind
the net. He should have been following the puck,
yeah, yeah. Yeah, he should have been, like,
directly behind the net watching. I 100 % understand
why Predators fans to this day are still pissed
off about it. Rightfully so. I get it. It would
have pissed me off too. If I was in their shoes.
I'm not taking that away from you. Sorry. Mistakes
happen. That's just how it is. Let's do our final
Puck Doku of the season. I'm totally on the wrong
profile here. I'm on my personal versus the professional.
Alright. Well, what do we have? Just about an
hour. All right. Easy peasy. Puck, don't go.
So going across through the columns, we have
the Ducks, the Golden Knights, and 30 plus points
in a season. And for the Rose, we have CBJ, Detroit,
and Buffalo. So we got either Tuck or Eichel.
We got... Well... We're off the bat. We're just
talking about him. Got to put Johnny Gaudreau.
Call him his 30 -plus points. There we go. All
right. Let's see. Tuck or Eichel. Well, we can
do Eichel for the 30 -plus and then Tuck for...
Yeah, true. Or either or. It doesn't matter.
Either or. 1%. David Perron for Red Wings Vegas.
Yeah. Obviously for 30 -point season for Detroit,
you could put just about anyone. Zetterberg,
Raymond, Datsouk, Gordie Howe. Columbus Vegas,
that's going to be a difficult one. Jonathan
Quick, no. Technically, he would have never played
a game for a lot of minutes. Points for credit.
Blue Jackets legend. He's getting his banner
next year, man. Returning his jersey next year.
Not Gary McCauley. I think he's an LA to me.
Yeah, I was going to say. That's why I haven't
said him because I was trying to save him until
we got the other ones. Obviously, Buffalo A &I,
Ryan Miller. Billy Huso for Anaheim, Detroit?
Didn't Billy Huso play in Anaheim? No. St. Louis?
I know he played for St. Louis. Okay. I thought
he played for Anaheim as well. Possibly, but
I'm not confident enough to put it yet. Oh! Oh!
Oh! Oh -oh! Oh -oh! William Carlson, Columbus,
Vegas. Drafted by Columbus and was in the expansion
draft for Vegas. His bet's still there, isn't
he? Yeah. He's one of the original misfits. I'm
sorry, I just see Otis' fat ass marching down
back there. Yeah, I'm talking about a heel. Detroit,
Anaheim. Columbus, Anaheim. I'm mixing Anderson
and Bob Roski. Bob was Columbus, Philly, Florida,
whereas Anderson was Anaheim, Toronto, Carolina.
I know, I was trying to think there too. No.
I think Boone Jenner has been in Columbus his
whole career. Yep. I'm trying to think of some
of those guys that have bounced around. Like
Atkinson, I don't think he played for Anaheim.
Atkinson was Columbus Philly. That's it. No,
he's Tampa. Oh, yeah, this past year at the deadline.
Oh, Detroit, Anaheim. I feel like that was one
that we should know. I should text Ethan, hey,
Detroit, Anaheim, go. That's what I was thinking,
like, Ethan would know. Damn it, Ethan! Did Brad
Cogutis ever play for Columbus? No. No? Okay.
I'm gonna text Ethan right now. I'm gonna do
you one better. Did he answer this late? It's
only 9 .30. He's usually up to save him. Maybe.
I don't think he's going to pick up. Damn. And
hang up. Don't leak his number or something.
Thank you for calling. Watch. As soon as we're
done here, he's going to call me back. Oh, Philly,
at least it was possible. Like, I don't remember
if he played Anaheim or not. Like, early, like,
before St. Louis. What about Gots to be here?
Gots is there. No, I think he was Philly. Philly,
Detroit, Carolina, I believe. And then Kevin
Shitmister. I'm sorry. I can only think of even
think names now. Was he ever on Columbus? Oh,
I was thinking Detroit. Oh, man. We've got to
go out the bay here, man, on this. We're going
to go 9 for 9 here. Damn. Rick Nash will never
play for Anaheim. I think there's a goalie here
somewhere. Who did Oso play for? Damn. You got
other players like Alex... I don't know who Alex
Ion. Peter Morazic. I don't think Terrence Halbin
ever played for... Gene Reimer's been around.
Been a journeyman. Reimer's definitely Detroit,
but I can't remember. Oh, was he Anaheim? Yes,
he was. Oh. Because I know he's been out less.
That might be. I don't know, though. I'm trying
to picture James Reimer in a Ducks uniform. Jack
Campbell's Toronto, Edmonton, I haven't played
a game in Detroit yet, but he's in their system.
I like Reimer better than... I mean, Reimer and
Huso are two possibilities that Reimer and I
were for. But we'll get both for Detroit -Anaheim.
Oh, um... Alex Glorn was only at Tampa -Anaheim.
Corey Perry has never played for Columbus and
Detroit. I'm trying to think like that 15, 16,
17 Columbus team where the Penguins would have
played them a lot. Like, Brandon Dubinsky comes
to mind. Brandon Saad comes to mind. Has Saad
done Anaheim? I know he's played out West quite
a bit, but has he done Anaheim specifically?
I don't know. I feel like Matt Duchesne or Anthony
DeClaire I know have all bounced around. What
would DeClaire be? Detroit Anaheim. I don't think
he'd play. I'm not confident. Oh, man. I'm thinking
like a Riley Shahan. I know he jumped around.
He's definitely done Detroit. I'm not sure. Again,
I'm not sure about Anaheim. That's my best guess
I can come up with right now is Raleigh -Shahan.
Steve Mason. Columbus. Maybe Anaheim. Maybe.
I'm just trying to spit bald hands at this point.
That's tough. Eric Branson's jumped around. That
could be Columbus -Anaheim. So we're going to
go Good Branson for Columbus and Huso for Detroit?
We'll do Good Branson first for Columbus -Anaheim.
Yeah, okay, okay, alright, alright, alright.
Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.
So we're between, what, Huso and Riley Shahan?
Can we flip a coin? Heads is Shahan, tails is
Huso? Flip a coin. We didn't even decide who's
who. I said heads is two hands. Alright, that's
two out of three. It's tails, so flip again.
Heads. Okay. Flip it again. Tails. Alright, so
Philly Husso's the lock -in. Drumroll, please.
Good guess. We were both right, though, wasn't
we? Shahan, too. Bernier, Huso. David Perron
can fit there, too. James Reimer. We were right
on Reimer, too. Steve Thomas, Max Olney, Dennis
Sprung. Brad May. Good thing we won't, though.
Okay, I am not seeing... Carter Rowney. Zach
Est... What? What did the Estonians play for
Detroit? What? Steve, why? I'm just going to
blame Stevie Y on this one. Alright? Why did
Czar play for Detroit? Wait, what were some other
ones for Columbus? And I'm too. Simon, Sillinger,
Lone Carlson, which we got. Jared Bull, Curtis
Macklin is Czar. That one I knew, but I didn't
know he played for Detroit. Jamiro Pronger, Scott
Harrington. Rene Bork. Brian Gibbitt. When the
fuck did Czar play for Detroit? Did we want to
try the pyramid or not? He played three games
for Detroit in the 23 -24 season. Detroit legend.
Three games where he put up zero points, two
penalty minutes, and had five minutes of ice
time in three games. Detroit legend. Wow. All
right. Anybody that's ever been drafted. We're
going to say Sam Reinhardt for the very, very
top. Did he play in the W? Did he play in the
W? I thought he came from the L. Bennett did.
What? No. Well, did Bennett get drafted in the
first round? That's the thing. Bennett didn't
play for Detroit. Or for Buffalo, sorry. Oh,
yeah. Any first round ever. Let's just go Mario
Lui. Father gets played. Younger. 30 will see
them. Crosby. That's just about to start tapping
that in. All right, so we'll be here. First round,
500 games played, 30 goals, plus goal seasons.
We could just do Jack Eichel. Has he played 500
games yet? He's drafted number two in McDavid.
He's drafted second overall. If McDavid paid...
Yeah, true, true. As we say. David almost had
a foul game. Eichel hasn't had that many injuries.
Okay. Who would this last one be? Where did Reinhardt
play? Is he from the W? The thing about it is
I have a feeling he played for London. Ryan Hurd,
I don't think he played for London. Oh, fuck.
I want to say he was in the O. You can always
do the lifeline. Someone tells me he played for
Plymouth or something. I don't know. Yeah, let's
do the lifeline for the WHL here. Speaking of.
Too late now. Hi there, buddy. How you doing?
Good, what's up? Hey. No, no, you're good. I
guess, either number one, it's late and you're
probably in bed, or number two, you're busy and
hands full. We get it. I understand. So, we're
actually, funny story, we're actually, right
now, currently in the middle of recording the
season finale for season five. Detroit and Anaheim?
Was he one of them? He was one of them, yeah.
So yeah, you're currently on speakerphone with
the rest of the gentlemen here in the studio,
so. We ended up going with Huso, right? Yeah,
we went with Billy Huso, which was correct. But
Fab Reader was also correct, so. Yeah. Yeah,
we were struggling. We were like, I know who
to call! Our Detroit pro, man. we appreciate
it man you got anything else to say before the
season before we wrap it up here on this call
Oh, thank you, buddy. I appreciate you calling
me back, dude. Yep, not a problem. All right.
See you, everybody. See ya. Hell yeah, man. Hell
yeah. At least he called before we ended recording.
Yeah. This is the lifeline here for the Debbie
Luchel. Do 50 -50 or film a blade? Let's do 50
-50. Make it difficult. Let us earn it here.
Skinner or... Oh, yeah. It might be Skinner.
Oh, because they both played. But which one's
for all? No, Cain. Because Vander Cain played
for London, didn't he? You're thinking of Patrick
Cain. Oh, yeah. Oh. Jeffy, which one of those
played in the O? Oh, Skinner did play in the
O. Skinner played in the O? Yeah. So this one
would be Vander Cain? Yep. And then top one would
be Sam Reinhardt, right? It doesn't have to be
then. I can't think of anybody else. I think
it has to be Sam Reinhardt. Yeah, okay. Easy
peasy. And Stu Barnes. Stu Barnes, that's a name
I haven't heard in about 11 years. Michael Reinhardt,
Pierre Lafontaine, Dave Andrew Chuck. Lafontaine,
Pierre Hall. Thomas Vanek. Taylor Hall. Brad
Boyce. Alex Tuck, Skinner. Alright. Hell yeah.
And for the last time this season, Hurdle. Sure,
let's do it. We're on a high. One of these times
I'm just going to fucking pull it out of my ass.
Bring it up again. So he is in the West and he
is Canadian. I was thinking maybe like a Mark
Scheifele? I was thinking Drew Dowdy. Oh, could
be. Could be. I was thinking because he is longer.
We know he's in the Pacific. So Dowdy. Dowdy's
in the Pacific. I didn't pay attention to that
at first. Okay. Canadian defenseman. His number
is... Like five or below, so that's massive.
No, no, no. Five, six, or seven. First number.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, yeah, yeah.
So give me five, six, or seven. Plays in the
West, not L .A. He's Canadian. Okay. Let's try
to eliminate some of these Cali teams, maybe.
Oh, could we get a Shea Theodore? I know he's
number five. Where is he, though? Oh, Vegas.
We have a couple shots, so... Vegas! Vegas! I
was 27. I was a little off. Either way, we're
in Vegas. There's a defenseman on Vegas who wears
5, 6, or 7. Ivan Barberchev's Russian. I think
he's 4 or 2. Okay. I'm trying to think of all
their defensemen. I'm just chatting out players
with low numbers. Eichel's 9. Kessel's the last
one to wear number 8. I'm trying to think of...
Petriangelo? 27. No, it's Estinor's 27. I think
Peter Gill is 7. But how old is he? How old is
he? That's really the key factor. We can try
it. I think he's like 30, 31. He'd be right on
that. Oh, I guess it would take 29 and older.
Well, we can try. I don't think it is, but it's
P -I -E. Okay, he's 35 then. So, his number's
5 or 6. 5 or 6. It's not like Keaton Colesaw,
right? He's a forward. Yeah, he's a forward.
His number's 55. It's not like Nick Waugh. I
think he's a forward, and I think he's like number
10. Yeah. Damn it, my Vegas jersey isn't out
to date. What about Nicholas Hagg? I think he's
from Vegas. What is... Dang. We're going to get
this fucking wrong. I'm going to be so mad. It's
Canadian defenseman on Vegas. Like, we have that
much in three. His number is either five or six.
man like maybe somebody that might have been
out which hasn't played in a little bit or even
a third parent defenseman fifth sixth seventh
defenseman that's what I'm trying to think Odie
do you have anything to say no okay cool thanks
brother I can't think of defensemen on Vegas.
Peter Jello and Peter were the only two that
I had in mind. Nick Waugh and Nick Hagg. I want
to say Nick Hagg's his name, but I don't know
what he... H -A -G -U -E. I was right. He is
a defenseman. Okay. So he's either 23, 24, or
25 years of age. I think he's only two years,
so it's 24 or 25. 24 or 25. And his number is
5 or 6. Oh my god. He's younger. I sound like
Matt Amodio. I'm pretty sure he's a forward.
Do I see him? I don't think it's Nicholas Waugh.
Or Nicholas Roy, I think that's how you say it.
I'm pretty sure he's a forward. Oh, hold on.
He's a forward, okay. He's Canadian, though.
I was right on his number when I said 10 earlier.
Oh, my God. I'm like 90 % sure Keaton Colstar
is a forward. Yeah, and his number is 55, so
he's out. You're right with the forward part,
so. Number five or six on Vegas. I want to say
it's five, but who is it? Paul Cotter? Oh, he's
on Vegas. Jersey now? And he's American. So he's
24 years of age. No, he's 24. 24 -year -old defenseman.
Is this our last guest? It's our last guest,
too. Oh, my God, dude. We're going to get this
wrong. I'm going to be so fucking mad. Big stretch,
Eddie. Big stretch. We're going to end the season
like this, too. We can't do this. I think of
guys maybe that have just came in or like trades.
Was it a trade deadline accusation? Remember,
this one doesn't really update that often. As
often as... I think it's gotten better. Because
I can just wonder if Carter played for Vegas
this year. I can look that up because we already
guessed them. I want to say Carter played this
year. I guess he would have got traded. End of
last season, okay. But I wasn't wrong. He did
play for Vegas. I wasn't wrong. Oh, my God. They
already said Nick Hagrid. They said Nick Hag.
They said Nick Waugh. Peter Joe Theodore. Dude.
Dude. Trevor VanDreamstack isn't over there.
I think the part that's hard for me is... Any
one of the VanDreamstack brothers would be too
old. Way too old, yeah. I don't think it's Matt
again. I don't think it's Matt Amodio. I'm pretty
sure he's a forward. He's a 24, 21, something
like that. Remember? It's not Matt Dumba. He
doesn't play for Vegas. No, it's not Matt. His
number is like 24, 26, something like that. Not
Matt, dumbass. It's not Mark Giordano. He's one
way too fucking old. And he's not even in Vegas.
Yeah, I know. That's what I'm saying. He's number
five for the majority of his career, wasn't he?
That's the only thing I can think of. No, because
Pavel Dobriyev would be probably Russian. Yeah.
I'm trying to think maybe... I'm trying to think
of four nations. Team. If he had been on that
team, would he be too young to have made that
roster? So it was in the Canadian defense on
that team. I don't remember. Because I was always
rooting against them. I'm going to give him number
five, but who is it? Oh, man. I don't know. That's
so depressing. We're such a good start. How do
you spell that, madam? M -A -M -A -D -I -O? Try
that again. I'm sorry. A -M -A -D -I -O? And
a Michael Lodeo right there. Who? Caden Korczak.
Okay. What's the number five? Fucking who? I
think he's one of those. He's like their bottom
pairing defenseman, like you said. Fucking who?
You were right. Like you said, the seventh defenseman.
Let's see number five. Yeah, he's not even listed
as their top six in their roster. That's why.
Who?! We were doing so good, too. Man. Who the
hell's gonna guess that? No offense, dude, but
who the fuck's gonna guess that? Is he listed
on their roster? He is listed on the roster on
the app. Oh, he only played 13 games? No, this
is us. Oh, okay. He played 40 games and only
had 10 assists. Did he even play in the playoffs?
He played one game in the playoffs, that's why.
I wouldn't have guessed it. Even if I would have
thought of that name, I don't think I would have
guessed him to be Canadian. Nope. Who? God, that's
honestly really frustrating. That's not how you
want to end the season, man. Oh well, no. And
we had a pretty good, pretty good Pukudoku, though,
so. And Pyramid. Perfected the Pyramid and perfected
the actual Pukudoku. Two for three. Well, can't
really be too upset about it. Not bad. We'll
take that. We'll take that. Not bad, not bad,
not bad. But yeah, that about does it for Season
5. While you guys say whatever remarks you need
to say, I'll be back in one second. So let's
keep our own, right? Let Cone sneak his way out
of here. My juicy self out of here. We have like
five seasons of this, man. It's just... It's
hard to believe. We're now at almost 4 ,000 total
downloads and listeners, whatever. I don't know
exactly how it all works. I can't bring up the
exact number here. What do you got to say, Jeffy?
Let's see. Been another great season, which is
hard to believe, like, what costs a five -season
into it all. Like, it feels like just yesterday
we were just starting season one. But that tells
you how time flies. All -time, we're at 38 -57.
That's just down, though. I have no idea what
we'd be for, like, all -time listens. But that
is just... downloads, 38 .57%. Which that is
up 130 % in the last 30 days. We've seen 177
in the last 30 days. Apple Podcasts, ever since
going to Apple Podcasts and expanding. Chromo,
we've had 62%. Amazon and Apple Podcasts, each
6%. Expanding is probably the best thing we did
there. We're getting a lot more listeners on
those platforms. It's crazy. It feels like yesterday
we were wrapping up season one. I'm going to
miss this. I do miss it. It's nice to have that
off time. Much as you love hockey, I'll still
talk about hockey day in, day out, every single
day, 24 hours a day. I can't tell how often I'm
talking to co -workers. I'm always talking. I
don't have many co -workers that like hockey.
My work is more football. Do you have anything
to say, Otis? No. Come on, one final time. This
might be your last time to be vocal on here.
Well, that's a bad thing to say, no. I don't
know. This is going to be your last time for
a while. Got anything to say? No. It's coming
until at least September, October. Yeah. As I
know, we've got a lot of exciting things coming
up here very soon. Obviously, excited for Season
6. Season 6, we've got the draft coming up. We've
got free agency coming up. But again, we might
do an episode, like a very short 20 -minute,
30 -minute episode. You know, mid -July to recap
any, if there's a lot of big trades. Again, it
all depends on how much signings, how many signings
there are, how many trades there are to discuss.
I know I think we did it in Season 2 and 3. I
don't think we did it after Season 4. So I guess
we'll wait and see if we do it after Season 5
here. Again, it all depends on how much does
go on. in this off -season. Maybe even wait to
give it a full month. Maybe wait until the end
of July and then we'll come together and see
what we want to do. So then, first episode of
season six isn't three and a half hours long.
Yeah. I think that wraps up season five. Oh,
yeah. Very long. This one felt longer. I think
it's the latest we've ever ended the season.
No, last year. I think season two, I think we
were going into July. Yeah, we were like, we
posted and a couple days later it was Independence
Day. So, we're a week earlier than last year.
So, thank Christ. It's time for a break, boys.
As much as I love talking hockey, as much as
I love doing this, not every week, but you know,
bi -weekly or as much as we do it. A break is
good. Everybody needs that break. It's going
to be nice to have it. A lot of discussions to
be had. Thank you guys so much. Like I said,
almost 4 ,000 total all -time downloads across
all platforms. Again, expanding to posting on
YouTube now, Amazon Music, Apple Podcasts. Probably
the best thing we've done because we have, I
think, gone up almost well over 1 ,000 this season
alone, which is insane. Thank you guys very much.
Can't wait to see you guys for Season 6. I would
say keep an eye on our social medias, but again,
like I said, this is probably going to be the
one offseason we are not going to promise anything.
It's probably going to be a very, very quiet
offseason for us. Quietest offseason we're going
to have since between Seasons 1 and 2. Probably.
Maybe end of July we'll recap everything that
happened. Again, we'll come together. We'll see
what happens. with that. Maybe we'll post something
whether we are going to or not with that. But,
yeah, that about does it. And, uh, thank you
guys. We will call it there. Yeah, thank you
guys. See ya! Yeah, I'm done. Okay.