All right, everyone. Welcome back to yet another
episode of the Buckbuster podcast where we talk
about anything and everything hockey. Can you
say bye with the episode anymore? Because at
this point, we do whatever we can. So that's
what I'm just going to start saying. Welcome
to the next episode. Anyways, I'm Kyle, surrounded
by my co -hosts. How's it going? In the silence,
you can tell that Colin is here. But first things
first. so that ended up being what three weeks
we took off instead of or like two we took off
instead of one for those of you that don't know
or aren't from here we got hit with a pretty
massive snowstorm got hit with about five six
feet of snow within the last two weeks of course
literally like the weekend of what was supposed
to be the next recording get into the studio.
I couldn't get into the studio, aka I couldn't
get home. It was to the point where, you know.
You said I'm staying at your parents' house for
like two nights, didn't you? I went over Friday
and I didn't get, I wasn't able to get at least
on my road until like Monday, like lunchtime
-ish. Yeah, I left Friday morning. Bobo had to
help, like Bobo and one of our mutual friends
had to help push me out from the end of my road
because It wasn't piled between Friday when it
started snowing, and Monday, or at some point
Sunday night. I mean, they called all the kids
off of school Tuesday, Thursday, Friday. The
kids only were in school one day last week. Wow.
I mean, Wednesday they went to school, Wednesday
night when I left work, I got a text from my
boss that said, no school Thursday because of
a blizzard warning. We got the other two and
a half feet of snow Thursday. Yeah, it's ridiculous.
Literally, because last year, our Eerie's entire
full winter was about roughly 26 inches. Just
on Friday alone, we simply surpass that in one
day Not quite as bad as the Blizzard of 2017
Some areas the eerie didn't but some I know some
areas did but eerie. Well, yeah considering in
2017 the airport when we got only got like three
or four feet but like album Just south of 90
They got the full five and a half, six feet,
seven feet. Trust me, when I was living out with
my parents, we got the full seven feet. It was
the opposite this year. Didn't Waterford only
get like a foot and a half compared to we got
like three and a half? Yeah. I know Waterford
or like the surrounding areas, you know, Wessieville,
Harbor Creek, Gerrard, I know they got hit the
second time, the second wind. The city was first
half and then the outskirts were second half.
Yeah. Remind me, once we go on break here, I
want to try something in the backyard. Oh boy,
okay. So, once we go on break, once we get rolling,
that's the way. Also, like I said, as I was saying,
with that break, hope all of our American friends
had a happy Thanksgiving. Hope you got to spend
time with your families. Thankfully we did because
the storm didn't come until after Thanksgiving,
so we at least got to spend Thanksgiving with
our families. I know my girlfriend had family
in town from Pittsburgh that didn't get to go
home that weekend because they couldn't get out
of where they were stuck at. So, it's pretty
wild. Yeah. We haven't gotten any extra snow
here in a call like a couple days now, so I can
imagine. Being on a janitor, I have to do the
snow blowing shit when no one's there. You wouldn't
know about six inches. You don't know about six
feet. Yeah, you're right. I'm like six feet from
the edge and I'm thinking. Anyways, moving on.
Bubba likes to do analogies that nobody knows
what the fuck he's talking about. Anyways, like
I said, hope you guys had a happy Thanksgiving
and have to spend it with your families. Yeah.
Moving on, let's talk some otter talky. Otters
have been pretty good, doing decent since our
last recording. Our last recording wouldn't have
been since what, the 15th or something? Our last
recording would have been on the 17th. So otter's
game is going back to the 17th. On the 20th against
the Steel, we had back -to -back home wins against
the Steelheads and the Greyhounds. 7 -4 and 6
-3 respectively. And then we lost two in a row
to the attack. Or the Rangers in the attack.
All four of those games were at home. So we went
2 -1 -1 in that span. The overtime loss coming
to the attack. And then one game was postponed.
And then one ended up being the Saturday, the
30th, like I said, that weekend. We got hit with
all that snow. The game against the Firebirds
was postponed. Then these last three road games
happening this week Thursday Friday and Sunday
Against the Steelheads yet again, but North Bay
Sudbury and the Steelheads four to three overtime
win against the battalion five to two loss against
Sudbury and then just earlier this afternoon
of recording Sunday the eighth Five to four win
over the Brampton Steelheads. So that was overtime.
I don't know why that doesn't say OT win Yeah,
either way a wins win It's two points. So in
that span, we went what? One, two, three, four,
four, four, two and one in that span. So it's
our 500. And so we're winning games. We're getting,
you know, getting some overtime losses. So we're
still getting points too. We are what? Still
fourth in the conference or in the third in the
division, fourth in the conference. Yeah, they
still are. Yeah, fourth in the, yeah, fourth
in the conference, third in the division. Cause
Kichner and London were the two best teams in
the league, I believe. Yeah Kitchener and London
two best teams in the league and then Windsor
Barry Oshawa Yeah Top three teams in the league
all come from the Western Conference. So yeah
that kitchen was that shutout. That was a rough.
That was a rough game. That was Definitely our
worst game we've played I think all season that
was a rough game and then since that's recording
the Peterborough Pete's Four more wins. Hey,
they're five 19 1 4 at 15 points It's right here
in London at 23 and 5 just ended their what 19
game win streak just Peterborough has been eliminated
from the 2025 I wouldn't doubt if they already
have to be completely honest and one thing it's
been just fun in general That's been gone for
the last two seasons Easton Cohen like having
that like 56 -point point streak man. It's ridiculous.
I actually just found something on that like
literally like I thought was kind of interesting.
I have it somewhere. I just had it brought up.
I think I might hang on real quick. But yeah,
there's an insane like just between actually
I'm sorry 55 -point streak but like out of all
the teams like he has Eight points against, like,
it was broken down based off all the teams. He's
gotten a point off. Barry, he's gotten eight
points. Three goals in. Branton, he's got two
points. Brankford, one. Erie, five. Flint, five.
Guelph, nine. Kingston, one. Kitchener, ten.
North Bay, two. Oshawa, three. Ottawa 1, Owenstown
11, Peterborough 2, Saginaw 11, Sarnia 8, Sioux
6, and Windsor 10. Damn, that's ridiculous. Yeah,
this is just between this year and last year,
starting from November 18th of 2023. Is it still
active or did he finally get one without? It's
still going. Obviously he... i know he got i
knew he was in the 60s of consecutive games 56
games regular season regular season games because
i know he didn't get a point after he because
he got hurt yeah he got he got a goal early in
the game but then got hurt off a hit. It was
a clean hit. Yeah, he just got caught with his
head down. I know they both were shucking off
because they both did not return to the game.
Yeah, the other guy went off because he, number
one, he had to get stitches because apparently
Cohen's visor hit him like right on the cheekbone,
had to get stitches. And then number two, he
was pulled for concussion protocol. Oh wow. And
then I don't know Cohen's injury extents. I think
they just pulled him just to be safe. Just to
be safe. Yeah, which I understand, you know,
for a top prospect, you know, a COVID or for
anybody of that stature, like... I know he had
already gotten his point that game, but I mean,
like, even if he hadn't, like, that's probably
the least... that's the least of your worries
at that point is, oh, when you keep him in, you
got to keep the points you're going to get. That's
your least of your worries, you know, your health,
you know. Your number one star, your biggest
foe now, this early in the season, is his health.
Yeah. I don't give a fuck whether you like the
guy, hate the guy, like the team, hate the team,
whatever. Number one priority is always your
health. It doesn't matter. I think what's kind
of cool is former Maple Leaf, Doug Gilmore actually
shot him out because he... Oh, did he? Easton
Cohen actually passed, broke, tied his point
streak, even though it wasn't... Oh, really?
Even though it wasn't... They're not... Because
he did Doug Gilmore did in 1960 with the Royals
when they were a team back in the 60s on the
OHL like but like the OS is not counting as like
he broke it because there it was off two seasons,
but But at least it's impressive he kinda hit
that mark of that punch. I mean, that's amazing.
You love to see something like that in our league,
you know. We've gotten to watch him play, obviously,
being eerie a couple times with the Knights and
stuff, so. And depending how bad his injury is,
he'll be in town on the 18th and that. I try
to plan on being a Dyke. That'll probably be
the next game I go to, so. I think that's one
thing that's been fun with. watching the London
Nights is like seeing like his points streak
going. We don't necessarily like the team as
a whole but watching him specifically it's been
it's been insane it's been fun and it's been
crazy to be able to watch him play. Even with
him being in and out of the lineup with injuries
and then of course being caught up to Toronto
for preseason. That's ridiculous, it's insane.
But yeah, I thought that was kind of one of the
things that's been cool watching, currently.
Yeah, and for Eerie specifically, one of the
most fun things I've seen so far this season
is Matthew Schaeffer in his second season. He's
been, this kid's been unbelievable. He's been
so much fun. He's still only 16, 17 years old
and he's playing like some pro players would
be like. That assist he had to Malcolm Spencegold
just earlier this afternoon. That like coast
-to -coast goal he had in that CHL versus the
United States challenge or whatever it was. He
looked really good in those games. Malcolm Spence
looked really good in those games as well. Yeah,
he did. But Schaeffer had that incredible game
-winner the other night and on Thursday... Against
North Bay, yeah. That was a really nice game
-winner. I think he like broke up a play and
then got a break away and then just... I had
a feeling, in my heart I knew he was gonna score
that. Like, getting him on a breakaway is like
getting Patrick Kane or getting Sidney Crosby
on a breakaway. It's almost guaranteed. I think
it was kind of funny when we talked about milestones.
I think it was kind of funny. We were all arguing
over with our season tickle or if that sits in
front of us during the, when Sam Alfano got his
hat -trick or like in Schaeffer. Schaefer was
looking for his hat, a hat trick in that game.
He's like, I want to see a Gordie Howe hat trick
for Alfie. I was like, I want a Schaefer hat
trick. Either Schaefer hat trick or Alfie Gordie
Howe hat trick. Alfie ended up getting the actual
hat trick. We're talking about a completely different
game. It was that game. It was that game. But
uh, yeah, I mean I mean the only thing I still
think that the auditors need to work on is defense
They have looked a lot better It's it's that
second period saw man. We and it's always it
seems like we're always giving up Goal like when
we have like a two three goal lead We won't give
up those two three goals in the matter of a period
and have two periods We'll give up that lead
in the matter of like four minutes like we just
boom boom boom give up three goals back to we
did that earlier this afternoon yeah we're four
to two going into third they scored two goals
within the first like four minutes of the third
period and immediately tied it up i was like
motherfucker but um one of the people that we
shat on a lot early season and last season have
stepped up immediately you know Owned a little
bit of an apology to Nicolas all Amigo who's
been looked looked very very solid He's very
much impressed or improved from last season.
He's he's looking really good Which granted it
isn't much to say consider, you know, you there's
only one way way to go up from rock bottom That's
up. Yeah, so like I know it's not saying much,
but still like there's improvement Improvement
is improvement is improvement. I think we ended
up cutting Keegan Knight, which I think he was
one of the rough patches of our defense. One
of the holes in our defense. I get it. I get
it. He's still a rookie now. Same with him. Imbrogio
is still young. Imbrogio is still very inexperienced,
very young. He's still got a lot to learn, but
he's got a lot of good guys in front of him to
learn. Two of our, most of our biggest guys are
good. Guys to learn from are gone, you know.
Sova's gone. Obviously Cameron Morton is gone
for a couple years now. OJ. OJ's gone now. Really
the main vets that are on that on the blue line
right now is obviously would more likely be Sodder
and that because Sodder? Yeah, Sodder would be
the number one go -to. He is gone now. He has
also improved a lot from his rookie season. He
also had a very, you know, a rough rookie season.
Not rough, but just not, not... good but not
horrible nothing right but uh last season you
know i think i had called it you know um we he
ended up getting like a scrap in the scrimmage
game whatever thing he got into a fight or whatever
i said i wonder if he that's just just to prepare
him to be more you know more physical and that
ended up candid getting into a couple fights
last year so i ended up being right on that i
know he's he's gone very physical i've seen him
make a lot of great hits just all around defensively
he's he's been looking really solid too so um
just more or less that third line where you know
the Cool players come in and out, you know, home
ego doesn't I don't think still don't think he
plays every game, but you know, he goes in and
out with Ambrosio No, but now that with Keegan
Knight gone now, I do believe homing has been
more full -time now. So well, no Home ego has
been a full -timer. Yeah, and with Schaeffer's
you'd be not starting with mono and with Schaeffer
in and out with you know, World Juniors and you
know being with Canada It's Ambrosio that's more
in than out. Is it? Okay. Cause I think the pairings
would be Shave and Thot, Henry, and Homago, and
then Daz and Ambrosio. Okay. Daz is the only
one that has not been the best this year. That's
okay. That might have been who I was thinking
of. He's been hit or miss. Daz has been just
not the best. He's been good decent. Been...
I can't speak. He's been decently good ever since
he came over in the Kyrie trade. But this year
he's just not doing too well. Not as well as
he was in last season or the second half of the
season where we got him. But I'm still very excited
for this Otters team and to see what they continue
to do the rest of this year. This is usually
where we have the rough patch of our season.
December January slump, but we got out we've
gotten out to such a good start. I don't think
it's gonna be a problem No, and the same but
we're being there and the experience that a state
of Butler has behind any bench You know, I feel
like any team that he's a part of for these,
you know the bench boss I feel like there might
be one or two bad games here and there, but the
next game it's going to be a good response from
the boys and you're going to be able to keep
moving forward and keeping the spot that you're
in, the position that you're in. We said when
we first hired him, he didn't make his first
appearance behind the bench until mid -February
of the 22 -23 season, so he only had maybe just
over a month to get that team. end of the right
headspace you know help them work on their discipline
and they have definitely worked on their discipline
a lot and we also what happened last year his
first full season as coach we make the playoffs
are the first time in what eight seven eight
seasons so and i even remember him saying like
in his first interview with the team he's like
even when the otters were already out of the
playoffs he was just like because like even the
guys who are on the main roster he's like He's
like they're not no one is safe and that like
he's like he's like I'm watching everyone. He's
like Sure enough. He's like And I even said like
when he had his full season last year. I'm like
I'm having when it's him having a full CF I expect
he's gonna do really good and sure enough look
what happened there back in the playoffs It's
great to see man. Hopefully hopefully hopefully
hopefully Make it back to back years here. So
I'd love to see that and hopefully into the second
round this time around I don't know we end up
end up making them out I assume and would hope
we don't drop as far as eighth place So we should
end if we stay like that four to six range have
a pretty even matchup like we did last year against
Kitchener I think we're I think we should be
okay. I Hope we stay more towards like three
or four. I know it's it's gonna be tough catching
Monday in Kitchener, but like even just to have
that whole nice advantage in the first round
of the playoffs. When you ever listen to these
interviews from the Autos players and they talk
about playing in that building in front of their
fans, you can tell they get so much energy, so
much motivation to play better at home versus
on the road. I feel like home ice adventure.
And we've even seen some of these road games
I've been watching. We even still show a good
amount of energy in those too. Also, we saw Schaeffer's
shushing out the crowd after his game winner
the other night. It's just taking it to the next
level of, you know, how much better can they
be, again, in the EIA. There's always one more
gear you can go. And they always seem to show
it at any area versus anywhere else. Other than
London, because, you know, London. It's London
vs. everybody. No, it's London vs. the Salts.
I can't say that. Anyways, Jeff, hit us with
your milestones from the OHL this week. For the
past three weeks. Going back on to November 20th,
Sam Alphano of the Yarders gets his first career
OHL hat -trick vs. the Brampton Steelheads. They're
on the 21st Mike Levin of Seattle crackins prop.
Um, I'm sorry Seattle prospect Andre Lascaux
gets his first career actually Gets his first
career hat -trick and then Mike Levin of the
Niagara also got a hat -trick in that game as
well against the Sioux On the couple multiple
in November 22nd Alexander Balicky of the Kitchener
Rangers gets his first career OHL goal versus
the Windsor Spitfire Mason Fekari of the Kings
and Frontenacs played in his 100th career OHL
game versus Peterborough Pete's Sam Bo bonus
of the Sioux Greyhounds gets his first career
OHL goal for Siri Otters that goal was bad that
was that the own goal own goal on that from Ty
Henry yeah that was that guy that was that kid's
first goal yeah that's wild imagine that like
imagine your first career goal you didn't even
technically score you're not even the one that
put it into the back of the net yeah that was
not good Charlie Byrnes of the Year Yarders gets
his first career to a point off of Matthew Schaeffer
goal So both of our goalies got their first point.
Erlandon's first assist was off of Henry's first
goal, wasn't it? That's amazing. And then Callum
Hughes of the URIs gets his first career OHO
goal. First to sue Great Allens. I'm really liking
that kid. He's got a lot of energy and he's still
obviously young too. The Boston College Comet
and only 18 years old. He's got a lot of good
energy. He's saying this year, he wants to be
very well -developed before he gets ready to
go to Boston. But he's looked pretty good. He's
going to be fun to watch for the rest of the
year. Logan Howrie of the London Knights gets
his first career OHL goal versus the Ole' Sound
attack. Blake Smith of the Flint Firebirds played
in his 200th career OHL game versus Saginaw Spirit
Callum on the 27th of November Callum Mahjong
of the Saginaw Spirit played in his 200th career
OHL game versus the Windsor Spitfire Liam Green
Tree of the Windsor Spitfire gets his 100th OHL
assist versus Saginaw Spirit And then Alexey
Madovev of the London Nights in 31 saves gets
his first career OHL shutout on a 6 -0 victory
versus the Peterbilt Pete's. Hudson Hurt of the
Sarnia Sting gets his first career OHL goal versus
the Brampton Steelheads. And then on the... December
2nd on Anaheim Ducks prospect Beckett Seneca
gets his second career OHL hat -trick verse to
kinks and fraught necks and When it picked Jets
prospect Colby Barlow of the last four generals
gets his 200th career OHL point off of a Beckett
Seneca goal one of his one of his goals Cole
Brown of the Brantford Bulldogs played in his
200th career OHL game versus Kitchener Rangers
Tommy Botnik of the Guelph Storm played in his
200th career OHL game versus the Brampton Steelheads
Austin Elliott of the London Knights gets his
second career OHL shutout in a 3 -0 victory versus
the Ole Miss on attack couple December 5th games
Ryder McIntyre of the Peterborough Peets played
in his 200th career OHL game and Blake Gowen
of the Peterborough Peets gets his first career
OHL goal versus Sonia Sting. Bold Stewart of
the Barry Colts gets his first career OHL goal
versus the Flint Firebirds and Tyler Challenger
of the Erie Odders gets his first career OHL
goal versus the North Bay Battalion. Finally
it's it's great to see he finally finally got
his first after Especially that fourth one. It
just hasn't Hasn't scoring hasn't been scoring
they've been They've been on their for check
has been good. It's just they just can't hit
the net or anything or get anything in the net
Couple in December six Ethan Dean of the Sudbury
Wolves gets his first career OHL goal versus
the Erie Hodders. Jonathan Mealy of the Peterbilt
Peets played in his 200th career OHL game versus
the Brantford Bulldogs. Jackson Parsons of the
Kitchen Rangers gets his eighth career OHL shout
-out in the 3 -0 victory versus the Sioux Greyhounds.
Vakner the brand for Bulldogs gets his 100th
career OHL point first to Peter Brown Pete's
Saddle my spirit head coach Chris Lozare gets
his 200th career win in versus Oshawa generals
That's all we have for the OHL milestones That's
it yep, yeah, we're gonna take our little Studio
time out here, I'll be right back with you. Alright,
let's jump into some puckdoku. Alright, going
across the columns we have Dallas, Vegas, and
St. Louis. For the rows going down we have Carolina,
Detroit, and 500 plus penalty minutes in their
career. So we could use Ryan Reeve, probably
Vegas or St. Louis for penalty minutes in a career.
Him and Robin Bertuzzo. Bertuzzo for the blues
and then Ryan Rees for the Golden Lids? Yeah.
I would assume, I can only assume that they have
that many. Definitely Ryan Rees. Yeah, 60%. Will
Bertuzzo have that many? Yeah, okay. One percent.
Jamie Ben probably, I know has probably quite
a few too. But how many? That's the real... I
mean, he's been around for, what, 20 years now,
so... I can only assume he has at least 500 by
now. I'm trying to think where else. Cam Ward
for Carolina Dallas? The Cam Ward? No, Cam Ward
despite his whole career. Nevermind. Yeah. Yeah,
we'll save that Jamie Ben one for at the very
end there. Perron for St. Louis and Detroit.
It can be Vegas, Detroit too. We can hold on
to someone in our back pocket for... I'm just
trying to think who was drafted in the expansion
draft for Vegas from both Colorado and Detroit.
You mean Detroit? You mean Carolina and Detroit?
Yeah, that's right. They both start a C, okay?
As long as you don't burn down the whole city
of Colorado. Alright. My body loves it, I won't
do that. It's a state I Mean I feel like which
one would be Easier for Peron us to put on for
us to put brown under the Detroit Vegas or Detroit
st. Louis Probably st. Louis because Vegas being
in the newer team they might have more names
Well, they did have less names because they're
newer I cannot think for the life of me of who
they would have taken from Detroit. Did James
Reimer ever play for St. Louis? I don't think
so. What about Vegas? Oh! Detroit St. Louis on
Billy Huso. Oh, yeah. I was just about to say
goalie tandem. And now we can put Perron under
Detroit Vegas. Good pull, good pull. Yeah. I
was thinking goalies for Detroit, like... Wait,
Detroit Vegas. Yeah, Perron, yeah. I think their
expansion, their first year, they had like five
former Penguins on their roster at one point.
I think now Seattle is the same way. I think
Seattle has like four or five former Penguins.
Could Dallas, Detroit be another goalie? It could
be. That's what I'm trying to think. How many
different goalies Detroit has gone through. That's
what I'm thinking. Did Talbot play under Dallas?
I know he's jumped around. I don't think he can.
Can Talbot? I don't think so. He's always stayed
closer to the border. I knew he bounced around
a lot. I just couldn't remember. I think the
furthest south, the KM number one was LA. I think
that's the furthest south he's ever been. LA,
Philly, Edmonton, Calgary, Detroit, Minnesota,
nothing is Chicago. I said, if Carolina was where
Dallas was, it would have worked. Yeah. Because
we're already blanking, I'd say put Jamie Ben
under the 500 point one. I would assume he's
gone that many for as long as he's been around.
Yeah, OK. All right, so we just need Dallas,
Detroit, and then all of Carolina's rural. So
Carolina, Dallas, Carolina, Vegas, Carolina,
St. Louis. Maybe like defensemen are coming to
mind. Brent Burns was Minnesota, San Jose, California.
Was Gensel, was anybody before that? Where all
has Dougie Hamilton played? Where was he before
Carolina? New Jersey. Toronto. I don't know where
else. Who's Carolina's goalie tanker now, with
Freddie being out? That's a great question. It's
Peter Kachekov and I have no idea who their backup
would be right now. Or if somebody else is the
starting, Kachekov is the backup. He's down right
now. Well, either way, Freddie was Columbus,
Toronto, and Carolina. So it can't be him. Trent
Anderson played for Columbus? Really? No, Anaheim,
sorry. Anaheim, Toronto, Carolina. Who would
Vegas have taken from Carolina? Tim Thomas was
only ever Boston and Dallas. I believe so. Well,
why don't we start with who is? Ben Bishop was
only ever, I know, Tampa and Dallas for sure.
I feel like he played for a couple teams beforehand,
but I'm trying to remember who the teams were.
Who's Carolina starting five? Could it be a possible
forward, maybe an offenseman, and not a goalie?
That's what I'm trying to think. I'm trying to
think of who they would have taken in the expansion
draft. I'm trying to think who they're starting
out with. Who else is Ron Hainsey? Who else did
he play for? You just pay for Carolina for a
little bit Pittsburgh Toronto Do you ever play
for any of those three teams? My best guess out
of those would be st. Louis St. Dallas I feel
like there's one that's like current that's on
one of those teams If for some reason the Carolina
st. Louis is screaming goalie, I just I Don't
know who what are you thinking? Initially says
so that you got undress event. Oh, oh me in Carolina.
That's Andre's fishnick of Andre only in Carolina.
What about Evgeny's fishnick of? Washington Detroit
Carolina Do we want to throw Ron Hainsey out
there for one of those? Who do we feel better
on? Dallas or St. Louis? I'm saying New Jersey.
Dallas. New Jersey Dallas? Or Caravina. For Ron
Hainsey? Yeah. Go for it. I would say more St.
Louis, but if you were more confident with Dallas.
No. Okay. Detroit Dallas. I don't think Scott
Wedgwood was ever with Detroit. I know he left
Detroit. Where'd he go? I don't think it was
Dallas so it doesn't help us. Was it Utah? Buffalo.
Bounders. Vegas. D -Deputy with Detroit at one
point. I don't think he ever played for Carolina
though. I saw he doesn't - he doesn't help. I
don't think so. Another one I'm thinking is Thomas
Grice. But I don't think he would fit anywhere.
I'll say Brodor don't fit anywhere. Damn, this
is a tough one. Oh, um, what did Ron Francis
play? Carolina, Pittsburgh. Did he ever play
for St. Louis at one point? I don't know. I don't
know. And do we have any other guesses? Yager
would only be Dallas St. Louis. Yager? Yager
didn't play for St. Louis. No, not a minor. What
about Penguin's legend Riley Sheahan? I know
he played for Detroit too. Did he play for Dallas?
I'm thinking Matt Cullen because he's done Carolina.
Where else would he fit there? Carolina, Minnesota,
Pittsburgh. This one's a tough one. Do we just
want to throw Ron Francis for Carolina St. Louis?
I don't think it is, but no. Wow. I think we
give up on this one, and I know we might do a
second one. No. Then, yeah, yeah, I have no clue.
Okay, yeah, we gave up. Only five out of nine
on this one. That's rough for us. Max Domey.
Oh, Justin Falk. Max Pacioretti. U .C. Okanin.
Ray Whitney. For Carolina Dallas. Kevin Hatcher.
For Vegas. Max Pacioretti. Noah Hanifin. So recent,
too. William Carrier. Nicholas Waugh. Chris Pronger.
Rod Brendan -Morpens. Fucking St. Louis? Apparently.
Since the fuck when? It's funny, I said them.
Tom Barrasso. Ian Cole. Yeah. I think we could
have eventually gotten there. What about Detroit
Dallas? Like McDonald, Brett Hall, Trevor Daly,
Sean Avery, Brad Richards, Vlad Dmystakov. Steve
Ott. Brendan Smith. Yeah. Wow. That was rough.
Oof. Let's go back to like the main menu there.
See if we can do a different day. That was a
rough one. Let's do the Pyramid, the Puck Deco
Pyramid. Right there in the middle. Let's try
this one. Alright. And then every time we fucking
struggle. Alright, 50 point season at any point
in their career. We can literally do anybody.
As long as it wouldn't take up the other category.
I say do Cindy Crosby, because Cindy Crosby doesn't
fit in anywhere else, so. All right, so any Swede
to have a 50 -point season? Timo. He's Finnish.
Was Alfredson Swedish? I think it'd be Eric Carlson.
That's where I was. Yeah, OK. That was my...
Because he wouldn't fit up top, because he didn't
play for the Rangers. A five -goal season. Anybody
scored? Was Alfredson Swedish? I know Matt Sundin
was Swedish, I think, wasn't he? I'm almost positive
Matt Sundin was Swedish. Yeah, okay. Alright,
so Rangers, Swede that had a 5 -goal, 50 -point
season. Mika, is he a... Zabanajad? Yeah. That's
what I was trying to figure out the first time.
Is he Swedish or is he...? I'm trying to remember...
I know he's Swedish. Dammit, my manager's even
Swedish and he would know this. I'm trying to
think of other Swedes. What was Messier? He was
just Canadian, wasn't he? Yeah. It's 9 .30. My
manager's probably drunk at this point. I love
him, but he's probably fucking drunk. Because
Zabanajad came from... Did he come from fucking?
Yeah, so I think he would fit at the top right
So saves advantage out from the top because he
came from Ottawa Because he was on that that
17 team that yeah penguins beat out Yeah, so
he would fit at the top there. Yeah So realistically,
I think we could probably use our two lifelines
here and then take the top one for me because
a bandaged film blank do fill in the blank that
doesn't fucking help no it does not oh marcus
nazlund i believe you're the spelling oh you
answered there Yeah, and then use it could use
the other life on here for the 50 -50 Michael
Nylander Eric Gustafson Well what nationalities
are Well, what will you diameter and now it's
time under that's what that's why I'm pretty
sure they're Swedes I said I thought they were
Swedes Normally the double s is a Swedish thing.
I thought a Double s in a name like that. I thought
that was a Swedish. I'm just not familiar with
Michael Under that Some relation at least relationship
wise if they're related I say Nylander Nope.
It was Gustafson, wasn't it? Which one? Oh no!
Oh, shit! Do the 2025 one. Yay! And was it Sabanajad?
Again, yeah, damn it Shit and we actually knew
it too. That's what's the cross on Hedman Sandin
both the Dean Twain Slaver Well, I was gonna
say I thought the double S's was a Swedish thing.
I don't Cross me was a popular pick too. That's
funny Letting anybody that had a 50 -point season
Kane Capri's on a bedard The list goes on and
on and on. Brad boys I saw there. Svech. Only
one person used Andrei Svechnikov. 90 Ben Ears
Dawson Mercer. Let's do one more random like
Puckdoku. I think that bothers me the fact we
knew it. Hold on. Let's go far. Let's go back.
First ever date. July 1st, 2023. Alright. Fuck
it. Oh, okay. For the columns, we have the Penguins,
Calgary, and $5 million or more in free agency
in 2016. And then we have, in the rows, Boston,
Vancouver, and the Oilers. Okay, Penguins, Bruins,
Penguins, Oilers. Just Schultz, yeah. I was thinking
Archibald, but... And then Cam Talbot for Edmonton.
Or would he, when did he sign with Edmonton?
Would he go with the Edmonton for agency category
on this one? And then we could do Mike Smith
for, we could do Mike Smith or Cam Talbot for
either, all for the Edmonton Calvary. Yeah, but
when did they switch? I don't remember. Cause
it was, no it was a trade. Was it just a trade?
Okay, okay. So. Vancouver Calgary Chris Tanev.
Pittsburgh Vancouver Brock McGinn. Brock McGinn,
Nick Benino, Brandon Sutter. Yes, Brock. Brock
McGinn. That's still one of my favorite school
calls. Did he not play the game yet? He might
not have played a game yet. I doubt we're gonna
get the other three, so. I swear he did, and
that's why... Pittsburgh, Boston, Iginla. I was
gonna do Yager. I was gonna do Yager for the
Boston Calgary one. Well, we can do Yager or
Iginla for... Added one. Oh yeah, true, true,
true. Who would have signed as a free agent with
Boston in 2016? I feel like that might have been
the year that was that the year that um, Luke
Cheech went over there to Boston? Or would that
have been way before that? No, he was already
in Boston. Cause remember he went... But did
he sign with him? Would have been right around
the time that he signed another contract there.
Like extended his contract. He wouldn't have
been a free agent. Nah, he would still have been
on his rookie contract in that year. Try to think
of people that would have went to Edmonton in
2016. No R &H, I think the Hall might have just
been leave right about time. He'd been leaving
Hall would have been leaving McDavid would have
been on his rookie contracts R &H R &H Well,
he was drafted in what 2012 well, so he might
have been but might have been his contract here
I See throw the gets either because I don't know
if we're gonna get the other two No, no, no,
no other one other one that's possible Nope,
okay. When did Tyler Myers leave Buffalo to go
to Vancouver? It was, I think it was 18. And
I'd be like the only decent guess I would even
have, so. Yeah, all right, if you listen stats
aren't available from before July 25th Damn all
right well we got six six six and then five and
then we got almost got a perfect on the pyramid
Cuz we just clicked the wrong name All right,
all righty I'll do my or do that first we do
my milestones first All right So I switched mine
up, I changed mine up a little bit. Instead of
going by dates, I split mine off into categories
for like first goals and goal milestones, point
milestones, games played, and then assists, and
then wins for like goalies and stuff. Starting
off with goals, and I don't have the dates. These
are for, you know, particularly in pretty good
order from time of date, but I don't have the
exact dates that these all happened. This is
shortly after we took our break Alex Ovechkin
recorded his 31st career hat trick. Those were
goals 864 865 and 866, you know, just what 20
shy of Gretzky's now I think that he got injured
like shortly after I think that that's when he
got injured like two games after that I think
he got a goal in that game. He got hurt didn't
he he did So he's at at least like eight sixty
eight sixty nine by now Zachary Lajero of the
Nashville Predators scored his first career goal
against the Canucks. Frazier Minton of the Toronto
Maple Leafs scored his first career goal against
the Golden Knights. Callahan Burke scored his
first career goal against the Montreal Canadiens.
And then Sydney Crosby scored career goal number
six hundo against the Utah Hockey Club. Yeah
baby! Six hundo. Emile Andre of the Philadelphia
Flyers scored his first career goal against the
Vegas Golden Knights. Cole Reinhardt of the Ottawa
Senators scored his first career goal against
the Calgary Flames. Nico Hescher finally recorded
his first career hat -trick. Tyler Clevin of
the Ottawa Senators recorded his first career
goal against the San Jose Sharks. Britt Berard
of the Rangers scored his first career goal against
the Hurricanes. Crevier of the Chicago Blackhawks
scored his first career goal against the Dallas
Stars Taylor Hall recorded his fifth career hat
-trick that one was his first since 2013 -2014
season when he was an Edmonton oiler so he never
scored a hat -trick for the Devils never scored
a hat -trick for Boston or Arizona or It's in
Boston the short time. He was there obviously
for Buffalo for the four games. He played there
Britain Point recorded his fifth career hat -trick
as well Ethan Cardwell of the San Jose Sharks
scored his first career goal. Fedor Svechkov
of the Nashville Predators scored his first career
goal. Owen Pickering, obviously of the UR Pittsburgh
Penguins, scored his first career goal against
the Panthers. And Tyson Kosak of the Buffalo
Sabres scored his first career goal against Utah.
Moving on to the point milestones, Kale Marker
recorded his 100th career multi -point game.
He's been leading for, what, six years and he
already has a hundred career multi -point games.
That's ridiculous. Max Sassen of the Vancouver
Canucks recorded his first, recorded an assist
for his first career point. Yaroslav Asgarov,
yes, the goaltender of his San Jose Sharks recorded
his first career point. Timo Meyer recorded his
400th career point. Lucas Raymond recorded his
200th career point. And Mac Chuck recorded his
600th career point. And then games played this
is where we have the most for by far Ryan Nugent
Hopkins played in his 900th game along with Ryan
Strom also played in his 900th career game Claude
Giroux played in his 1200th Zach Hyman played
in his 600th Noah Anifin 700 Cam Talbot 500 OEL
and William Carlson both 700 as well And then
Kevin LeBanc Mikhail Sergeyev Jesper Bratt and
Turbo Tanev Brandon Tanev all played in their
500th Mitch Marner and Ryan Hartman in their
600th, Dougie Hamilton in his 800th, Cindy Crosby
in his 1300th, Michael Kesselring in his 100th,
Mike Sullivan coached his 700th game, and Anzai
Kopitar played in his 1400th game, which fun
fact about that... Split right down the middle
for 700 played at home 700 played on the road
at that point I found that very crazy like you
would think oh But he had to have missed a couple
games here and there or been injured or you know
out with illness whatever But they just still
happen to be he's played the exact same amount
of home as he is on the road I found that pretty
wild Assist milestones Mikael Graham and recorded
his 400th career in assist with an Apple to a
Jake Wallman goal. Dylan Larkin recorded his
300th career assist. Victor Hedman became the
franchise leader in assists for the Tampa Bay
Lightning with 590, passing Saint Louis who had
588. And then Quinn Hughes became the Vancouver
franchise leader for assists by a defenseman
specifically with 311. For wins for goaltenders,
Jake Allen recorded his 200th career win. Yaroslav
Askarov the guy I mentioned earlier also in the
game where he got an assist he also got his first
career win in that same game So what a game for
him The boy we love most out of anybody Jordan
Bennington becomes the Blues franchise leader
in all -time wins with 152 Did so in 298 games
and in that span he has 16 shutouts Eric Portillo
of the Los Angeles Kings recorded his first career
nhl win in his first in his debut his first game
he played he gets a win and then jackson stobber
baby back baby back baby back bitch bitch uh
jackson we're talking about bittington not not
portillo portillo didn't do anything uh jackson
stobber of the utah hockey club isn't portillo's
i like a chain a food chain i think so like on
the like like eastern west coaster like mountain
time with the middle coast Then Jackson Stauber
of the Utah hockey club recorded his first career
shutout that also being the first shutout in
Utah hockey club franchise history Really wait,
there's one Florida Portillo's. Yeah brain brain
and that's only that guy Oh, I can't say that
stuff on the air. SHOOT! I could've watched a
friend of Porto's this whole time. Damn. I'm
sitting there like, I don't know what to do anymore.
Oh, there's Porto's. I remember. It's just this
fancy, not this fancy chain. Hold on, let me...
It's not fast food, but it's not like a five
-star restaurant. Okay. Sounds like an olive
garden? TGI Fridays and Jimmy John's had a kid.
It's a Friday style, like setting, restaurant
setting. But these serve fancier Jimmy John's
food. Okay. Interesting. That would be actually
really cool to check out. Well, I know you said
you have a couple of blind rankings for us, correct?
I have. Two of them. Two? I'm gonna pull it up
here on the big screen here. Okay. First one.
Cup losers over the past two decades. So this
goes back to the Daniel Schell walkout. Teams
are these? Teams. Okay. Penguins? How are we
ranking them? Based on... Based on what? Based
on overall skill and team. Based on how good
the team was. How good was the team? When they
play in that cup final, okay, or that that seat,
but these are specifically cup losers cup losers
Okay, okay. So like yeah, okay So like if I were
to pick the the 16 17 national predators, how
would be right? So the first one up is the 2014
2015 Tampa Bay London Okay from what I remember
this was definitely not the best Team the banks,
I don't think they had Kuturov yet If he did
he was young he was like 19 20 years old if they
did Stamacose was still fairly young like probably
24 or 25. Stamacose was the captain at the time.
Was he already the captain? Ben Bishop was in
the roster. They lost not to Corey Crawford But
no, this is the first cup that Corey Crawford
was the number one goaltender in Chicago Who's
the number one in like 10 and 13? Not Crawford,
I can't remember who else but either way the
14 -15 Tampa Bay Lightning I'd put them right
in the middle just to start off. I think right
in the middle Yeah, Sam Coats was still fairly
on but this is still pretty much in his prime,
you know when this I think this is one one two
years post 60 -goal season, I Believe cuz I think
he did that in 2012 I think right in the middle
is like fair. Yeah All right, the the bubble
canadians the 2002 uh 2020 2021 canadians the
cinderella run they had or the beginning of the
1920 season No, the 21. That wasn't the bubble.
The bubble would have been the star. The full
COVID season. You got the Canadian division and
then on west, central and east. Just with how
much of a Cinderella run it was, I want to say
five. They had no business getting that far.
They had no business getting that far. And then
see how they played the year after and how they've
played ever since. Yeah, that was a fluke and
a half. All right, the 2006 -2007 Ottawa Senators
when they lost in 6 to Anaheim, 7 to Anaheim.
Either way, they lost to Anaheim. Okay. I'm not
too familiar with how good that team was. I know
Alfred Senpai was still better in that team.
You had the pizza line. Pizza line? So it was
Danny Heatley, Alfred Sen, and Spezza at the
time. A young Spezza. Wow. That was known as
the pizza line. Okay, I did not know that. For
whatever reason, whenever all three of them got
on the board, everybody got a free size pizza
at the local establishment right down the road
from the arena. Okay, that's why they call it
the pizza line? Yeah. That's cool. Yeah, they
were like the HBK line at their time. Only because
I feel as though he might give us a really good
one and then a really shitty one. So I almost
want to put this at two. He could be fun was
I'm gonna give us two extremely shitty ones after
this, you know, it's when they're putting the
fucking Next up the inaugural the 16 17 Vegas
Cold Nights the best of the best players picked
out already it's kind of that i've seen that
it was their their first year as a franchise
and they went all the way to the cup final the
first team i think to ever do that in their inaugural
season and they lost in five to two capitals
yeah i'm just just seeing just especially seeing
that they were down to a what a fucking sixth
goaltender at one point i remember i think it
was uh it was flower suban i think uh lagase
at one point Oscar Dansk at one point. It was
honestly Dylan Ferguson at one point. They had
played I think seven or eight different goaltenders
that year. I would put them at one. That team
was just seeing that they were able to get to
that point minus all the goaltending, not struggles,
but just all the problems that they faced in
between the pipes. That's pretty impressive for
them. So at the number four spot, you guys would
put the 2008 -2009 Detroit Red Wings. Ethan will
be pissed at you! He will be pissed at you! He'd
be pretty upset. I mean, that was a great tease.
Honestly, I mean, again, I don't know how good...
The Senators were, I wasn't quite like religiously
watching hockey when the Lightning lost that
year in the 14 -15. I didn't start religiously
walking hockey until like the season after. Honestly,
if we bumped Detroit up, I think swap them out
anywhere between two and three, that'd be a perfect
list. I think we did well with the Canadians
being down there. I think we did perfect with
the Golden Knights being up there. I think the
Golden Knights were better than Detroit, but
I think Detroit is debatably better than both
2 and 3. So we could have swapped Detroit and
Ottawa. Technically the official rankings, if
we can change it, would be 1, 4, 2, 3, 5. Yeah,
I think 2 and 3 are interchangeable. I don't
think there's much difference. Honestly, 2 and
3 and 4 are interchangeable, honestly. I think
Detroit could drop as low as 3, but I think they
realistically probably could have been at 2.
Yeah. Because you still had all this time in
there almost when we're getting older like Linstrom
is also getting older Zetterberg was starting
to get up there dot sick was getting up there
in age Alfredson wasn't quite there. Yeah, I
don't think he went over to like 14. Yeah He
only played one season there cuz out of those
five the one I'm not familiar with was the centers
just because I was just start still was just
Starting to get in the hockey at the time. That
was rough I've been going to more honors games
at the time, but I was not familiarized with
players. At that time, I was only really paying
attention to the Penguins and the Sabers at the
time. I have there's pictures of me being three
four years old sitting in front of the TV watching
the penguins with my dad But that's three or
four. I don't know what the hell is going on
But um, you know, I remember like I said, I think
I told the story before I remember back when
we won in 09 The way our house was set up I sat
at the end of the hallway where my room was and
could see the TV So I just sat at the end of
the hallway and could watch us watch us win the
cup that year So I remember doing that. Um, so
I I have friends like family friends that I've
known for a long time to live down in Pittsburgh
And I remember during that run, the magical run
in 08 -09, we went down, my family and I went
down during the semi -finals playing the Capitals.
And I think this was game two when the Dueling
Hat Tricks. That one was in Washington? Yeah.
Okay, but you went, okay. It was in Washington.
We went down to visit the family friends and...
Just the whole family that lived in Pittsburgh
went nuts during all three Crosby goals. They
went nuts. They were so pissed off when Ovechkin
scored at the time. I believe Ovechkin came first
because I think Crosby's... I think we were still
down by two and then Crosby scored his third
with 30 seconds left and a wild scramble in front
of the net. It didn't matter but it did because
it was a hat -trick. We started up losing the
game, obviously. I remember that game, too. I
remember it. But instead of doing back -to -back
blind rank, because I have something, two little
fun things for us to do, too. These are just
12 players. The ages of the NHL stars when Marc
-Andre Flurry made his debut. Oh, I saw this.
I saw this. Leon Dreisaitl was seven years old.
Austin Matthews and Connor McDave were both six
years old. Kill marker was four years old Hello,
I've just met an actress a marker now Quinn Hughes
was three years old. Jack was two coke. Hallfield
was two Tim Stutzla was one and then you're a
Shlokovsky Matt V Mitch Cobb Connor Bedard and
Macklin Celebrini were all not born yet I remember
the like when salt like when San Jose was facing
off against, you know, you know, so I think furry
was playing yeah in that game and And I think
the stat popped up as the youngest player ever,
like in NHL, celebrating, and scored against
the oldest player in NHL. And I also have a little
bit of a guessing game for you guys. These are
the franchises that have defensemen as their
all -time assist leaders. I just mentioned one
of them earlier. Vancouver with Quinn Hughes.
And then Victor Headman's Tampa. Yeah, what Jeff
you said? He might have been Vancouver must have
just been passed because this is the Vancouver's
not on this list yet. So this must have been
posted. Yeah, so that's probably why I mentioned
one earlier, which said which I mentioned Victor
Headman at 590. John Carlson with Washington
was he be no high? Chris the tank should be up
there with Pittsburgh. Nope. This is all -time,
this isn't current. Well I'm saying. That's why,
that's why we're both. You were thinking that
Latang has more assists than Michael Muted? Oh
you said defenseman. Yeah this specifically franchises
with defenseman as the all -time assists leader.
Oh, okay. I'm sorry, I thought you meant, you
know, defenseman, specific defenseman franchise,
not overall. Overall. Okay, now I understand.
So specific franchises that have a defenseman
that leads their franchise and assists. Not Anaheim,
not Arizona, when they're a franchise. Not Boston.
Boston's a toss -up. I don't think Boston, because
it would be Chara. Charlie McAvoy, but McAvoy
didn't pay a lot. Ray Borg, wouldn't it? Ray
Borg is the number one, actually. Buffalo. It's
just by any defenseman. It's 1 ,111. That's a
perfect number. 1 -1 -1 -1. Buffalo, that wouldn't
be a thing. Carolina, that wouldn't be a thing.
Calgary, that wouldn't be a thing. Would it?
Carolina? No. Calgary? Calgary. Oh, that would
be Marjorie Vanna then. No. Who would have been
the other, like, top career defenseman out there?
I'm trying to think of all their def... Because
I know Chris Tanner wouldn't have been that high.
Yeah, I'm thinking, like, the more, like... This
would have been, like, 70s, 80s. Maybe one of
them would have been into the 90s. I was gonna
say, this side of... Cheer down. I wouldn't have
wouldn't have happened. No, like I'm sorry cheer
down. It would have been the last great defense
during their big old cup runs there I I don't
know about yeah, I'm not too familiar out prior
to it is mr. Alma Guinness You're missing what
two three six seven eight Colorado no wouldn't
be a thing cuz came our hurt would be a big thing
Carabine and now they really haven't had many
superstar defensemen Colorado Dallas That allows
their their start like demon are way too young
so no no way Detroit. Niklas Lindstrom is the
first person that comes to mind. He's not on
the list. Really? The Russian Five. Where's Ethan?
Where the fuck is Ethan? Detroit is not on the
list at all. Detroit? Okay, that makes it easier.
But regardless, where would Ethan be? E -F -G
-H -I... I'm trying to think of... because Toronto
has had a lot of good defensemen over the years.
Toronto is on the list at three, but who is it?
Dion. No. I'm between it's tough when they're
original six fucking he would have been also
like 60s 70s Boria song Boria salming nice pole
deaf Boria saling with 620 career assists Remember
this is specifically franchises that have a defenseman
as their all -time assist leader Minnesota doesn't
have one Nashville doesn't well Matt Nashville
Okay, that face said something. Roman Yossi.
Roman Yossi. Number 6 for Nashville. 520. What
numbers do we have left? 2, 7, and 8. I'm forgetting,
Edmonton with Paul Coffee. Or Paul Coffee's on
the list somewhere. Nope. Okay, well then Edmonton,
Pittsburgh, and Boston. Well, you already did
Boston at the beginning for me, Bork. Well, I'm
just saying, because overall, that eliminates
three teams. Shut up! We're trying to record
in here! Islanders wouldn't have anybody. Rangers
wouldn't have anybody. Okay, they would have
somebody. Rangers have somebody. The Rangers
have somebody. Big Rangers defensemen. Fox hasn't
been around. Obviously, True was a fucking bum,
so he wouldn't do shit. Get him out of the metro.
Other than hitting, you know, hurt people. This
might get away. He was I believe he was the con
Smythe winner the last time the Rangers won the
Stanley Cup so That doesn't fucking help me I
but you're wrong, but I believe he was gonna
come to my player Obviously, defensemen. The
player he's thinking of, he's trying to remember
what position it is. Well, who's the player?
I was thinking Brian Leach. Brian Leach. Oh,
here we go. Brian Leach at 741. I can't remember
if he was a forward or a defenseman. If we spit
it out, then hopefully we can help him here.
We just need seven and eight. I'm assuming somebody
from Montreal. Believe it or not, no. Really?
Philadelphia. Nope. Pittsburgh is Noah. Ottawa.
Nope. The last two are actually the two newest
franchises in the league. Oh, I'm not counting
Utah. So Vegas and Seattle. Seattle, but who
are the two players? So Seattle's gonna be easier,
so I feel like if we tackle them first. Yeah,
because I know one of their top good defensemen
is Vince Dunn. Vince Dunn. Alright. 115. And
then Vegas. Who were their big defensemen? McNab.
Pachangelo. McNab, Pachangelo. Oh, fuck. There's
a Peter Drell? There's not Peter Drell. He wasn't
around during that time. Shea Theodore. Oh, wait
a minute, pull it out of your butt. Well, I was
trying to figure out all the other guys, and
then I remembered Shea Theodore. And I did also
have a little list of just a couple things to
discuss. before moving on to Colin's other bind
ranking. Do you guys see Charlie Lindgren's own
goal? It's rough to watch, man. It is not funny
to watch, but it's rough, but it's funny at the
same time. You feel bad for the kid, because
I'm pretty sure he's still pretty young. But
it was rough. Another thing, obviously, talk
about the heartwarming moment in Calgary. Columbus
and Calgary playing each other both teams all
during warm -ups every single player on the ice
from both teams wearing the Joe's Jersey Had
their family do like the puff opening puck drop
and then the number one star for that night was
the brothers Father you got the game puck at
the end of the game. Yeah be the father good
draw. I've got his first name Papa hockey or
daddy hockey or something? I'd say just like
when he did in Columbus, so he was Like skating
out with all the guys I think that's one of the
most in Columbus and that's right One of the
most heartwarming things I've ever seen with
both teams I mean, I'll say that's two teams
He played for every single player on that ice
and warm -ups was wearing that one that I kind
of liked I thought was really cool was on there
was a a hot cow somebody Calgary, but took all
the sticks that were at the memorials at in Calgary
took all the sticks and he made up turn them
all hockey sticks into a bench in them yeah I
think I saw his total but I think it was what
219 sticks or something like that and then obviously
on the plaque it said obviously in memory of
Johnny and Matthew which I thought that was kind
of cool yeah that's just something something
I wanted to bring up to the the attention because
that it needs attention because that was one
of the most heartwarming moments I've seen at
least in my lifetime watching hockey and stuff
or honestly any sport you know it's it's been
incredible to see the amount of people coming
together for that it's like again it doesn't
matter what team or what side you're on you know
we're all human we're all pushing towards one
goal and that's you know just just fucking survive
yeah kind of thing so and then the last thing
um just a couple of big random trades that have
happened last week obviously just the other night
the other day jacob truba being traded over to
anaheim in exchange for your hoe vacanin in a
fourth round pick in 2025 which i know there
was rumors that turbo is going to be moved in
the off season like before the season started
you know either they were you know buy had his
contract and then he would be traded or even
you know um just being traded all together and
then you know he'd buy this contract and then
sign with somebody or trade him and then I said
he almost went to Detroit and I know there's
rumors that he was gonna go to Detroit in the
offseason did you did you did you hear like how
they got him to like drop or go from a no movement
class to your minimal no movement class no so
the story was was that uh the rangers management
was like hey like go to minimal new no treatment
class like no movement clause or We're gonna
put you on waivers and these teams gonna Are
gonna pay you so either you you pick which seems
you're able to go to or we're gonna pick for
you Wow kind of thing so So he chose Anaheim
is one of them Yeah, Anaheim was one of them.
I haven't seen the best of them. I think they're
on a decent streak right now. I know they've
won a bunch of games here recently. Yeah, I just
don't know what the other teams are that were
willing to give up or what they were willing
to give up. But Anaheim, I guess, is the team
that they chose. That was one that I was not
expecting. I'm just glad he's out of the Metro.
That's all I care about. There's two that happened
on November 30th that I wasn't even aware of.
Colorado traded their young goaltender Eustace
Anunen to the Nashville Predators in exchange
for a goaltender Scott Wedgwood Me neither I
won't surprise the hell out of me And then the
wild acquired defenseman David Juricic and a
fifth round pick From the Blue Jackets in exchange
for Damian Hunt a first round pick third and
fourth round in 2026 and a second in 2027 so
apparently the wild have a lot of hope for David
Jurisic as much as they gave up and obviously
the one that has been working out really really
well for the Penguins so far acquiring Philip
Tomasino from the Nashville Predators in exchange
for a fourth rounder which in the short amount
of time he's gotten I believe like three goals
and an assist in five games he's so he's looking
really good he looks good so I'm very I was pretty
happy about it when I heard about I was like
oh he's young you know you know Blanking on his
name Kaldux is actually going out and getting
us some some young talent, which I very much
enjoy I'm very much all for Yeah, I was exactly
right and five games He has three goals in an
assist four points in five games for us so far
when he when he had played 11 for Nashville and
had one assist So I'm very happy with how he's
been turning out he's looked very very good so
far We should need to get younger more deaf and
deaf and get a little bit younger on defense
And I think we're set which we have gone a little
bit younger obviously with I know they just recently
sent St. Ivany back down, but they brought up
Oh and Pickering's got a full -time position
in the lineup Ryan Shea has been in and out.
He's been he's been decently solid Carlson's
been playing a lot better at least defensively
might not be getting on the board, but he's doing
better defensively I know Grizzly finally got
his first as the penguin, and I think it was
just yesterday Yeah, we're starting to come together
as a team for the Penguins. We're on what's one
four of our last five games, so Hoping that this
is the start of a wake -up call and turn this
team around a little bit You know, we've dug
ourselves a pretty deep hole to climb out of
to have a shot at the playoffs But as long as
we don't finish as long as we don't finish at
the bottom of the division I'll be happy I mean,
I just don't want it to be one of those things
where we find on the last day of the season and
then lose and find out we're not going again
I'd like to see Malcolm Spence in a Penguin's
jersey, I'll tell you that much. We all know
Matt Schaeffer is on as he's climbing his way
up. So he's top three There's people debating
that he might go first. Like there's a lot of
people well with the way We saw a couple weeks
ago. There were a bunch of not just Kyle Dubas
and some penguin scouts, but there were a bunch
of Scouts just a couple weeks ago Dubas gonna
trade Malkin for To like fucking Buffalo for
the third wrap their third overall pick Imagine
we get fucking Matt Schaeffer Oh my god. I'd
be so happy. But uh, hey Colin, I think we're
ready for your second button ranking. Alright,
best goalies. Don't hit my car. To never win
a cup. Best goalies. To never win a cup. Okay.
First up, Curtis Joseph. Cujo. He never won?
He never won a cup. He's with Toronto forever
and then he was with Detroit for a short amount
of time, wasn't he? No. I had the best stopover
ever, didn't I? All right, my mom. Kudu never
won a cup. That surprises me. I would start him
with at least number two, because I'm sure there
might be a better one. Put him right in the middle
of three. Oh. I was honestly going to be with
Bubba. I'd put him at two, because he was good.
I mean, he's one of the better. He's good. I
guess for a safe. He's easily top 10 all the
time. But to not win, he's definitely up there.
All right, next up, Carey Price. I can already
tell you right now. I know he's gonna put long
quiz on here somewhere I know there's one other
one. I know he's gonna put two Price no, sir.
I'd say three. He's not four. He could be three
He could be he could be one day. We should have
put kuju at three That's why We put him at three
do we want to put Carrie at one? I want to see
Price at three. Three? Okay. Fuck, this is gonna
be a tough one. Next up, Boa's right, Henrik
Lundqvist, the king himself. Well, I had said
that, yeah. Did Boa too? I said it too, yeah.
One. I'd put him at one. Or maybe five. No way.
I don't know. Was he better than Price? I mean,
in their prime? Fuck. Oh god. It's one or four,
that's all we have. One, one, one, one. Okay,
this starts. Oh no, he's gonna have, the last
two are gonna, we're gonna be punching ourselves,
aren't we? I guarantee I know how to tell one
of the two he's gonna say. Craig Anderson. Do
we just put him at 5? This honestly really hurt
just tight just type it. I want you to type it
out. He's gonna be Well, I already know he's
gonna play some audio. Oh not copywritten by
the way I know all right. Yeah, this hurts This
one hurts I hate you guys so fucking much guys
we should have known what he put on you guys
are banned from my house I would have been better
at least in that at least two okay I am serious
like you guys gotta get up I'll finish that first
this fucking episode by myself that works i gotta
be up at 6am fuck you sit down you guys suck
god this one hurts the most i don't care about
the other four i really don't he deserves to
be number one call me biased he deserves to be
number one i would agree god i need to take a
walk fuck you god Lundquist, Price, and Miller.
I mean, any of those three can be debatably number
one. I would have been okay with Miller and Joseph
being swapped. Miller being at two. I'd have
been okay with that. And then you could even
say Price and Lundquist swap. Lundquist, Price,
and Miller can all be interchangeable for number
one. you can have different arguments for all
of them uh i'm so i'm so i'm pissed i'm i mean
it's it's a blind raking for a reason i know
we didn't know he was coming up but well i mean
it should have been a dead giveaway to call him
put on his fucking buffalo jersey but uh yeah
that one hurts especially because of how much
i just like we were at his jersey retirement
game for christ's sake i know that's why i said
We watched them do a final farewell to him retiring
his jersey number. And put him into the Buffalo
Sabres Hall of Fame. That one hurts because he's
my favorite. Right behind Mark Andre Fleury.
Non -Ping was definitely my favorite goalie of
all time. The most respected goaltender of all
time. That one probably won't bother me the most.
I shouldn't be that pissed off that, you know,
obviously it's a blind rank and you guys didn't
know, but I tried to give you guys hints. With
the jersey, facial reactions, trying to look
down on my jersey real quick. I was hoping out
of everybody that Bo was usually pretty damn
good at picking up context foods like this. Like
I gotta get credit where credit's due, but he's
probably one of the best aside from Ethan. But,
like... Yeah, that one... That one's gonna go
down in the record books for us, so... My heart
is in my gut. So, Colin's gonna change all of
our nicknames to Ryan Miller haters. And I would
deserve it. I'm sure Colin's gonna change all
of our nicknames. Well, he's going to now that
you said it three times. Do me a favor, label
us one, two, and three. Like, phone -hider pros
one and two? Yeah, exactly. Oh, that was so good.
Yeah, that one hurts. That one really hurts.
Alright, before we wrap things up, the official
Lions rosters were, or like the whole lineup
pretty much, was officially released for the
Four Nations face -offs teams. We're each just
gonna choose one and go over them. I chose Canada.
We're gonna go over the whole lineup and stuff.
First line, they got Sam Bennett, Seth Jarvis,
and Connor McDavid. Second, they got Anthony
Cirelli, Travis Konekne, and Brayden Point. Third
line, they got Crosby on the wing with Nathan
McKinnon and Sam Reinhardt. And then Brandon
Hagel, Brad Marchand, and Mark Stone. And then
Mitch Marner is like a 13th fill -in for probably
anywhere he could fit in. Defenseman, we got
Kale McCarr, Colton Pareco, Shay Theodore. Josh
Morrissey, Alex Petrangelo, Devon Taze, and then
Travis Sandheim as well. Probably like the seventh
defenseman. And goaltenders, we got Jordan Bennington,
Aidan Hill, and Sam Montembeau. Alright Bobo,
who you got for... FINLAND! FINLAND! Um, so,
the, uh, Jeff is making me laugh. Fuckin... For
my forwards, my first line is Sebastian Aho,
Eric Hula, and Anton Lundell. Second line, Joel
Armia, Rupe Hintz, Itu Lusterainen. Third line,
Alexander Barkov, Kapo Kako, and Mika Rantinen.
Fourth line, Michael Gremlin, Patrick Lainé,
Tuvu Terevinen, and then the alternate is Atari...
Wakanen? Bukenen. Bukenen. Defenseman, Yanni,
holy bus you, haka haka, haka haka, haka haka,
holy bus you. His eyes whining looking at that
me wasn't looking at my can feel his eyes go
Miro Heisken, Ali Mada, UC Valamaki, another
holy bless you, and Niko... Pull it together
guys, come on, we gotta finish this episode.
Niko Mikola as the alternate, and the goalies,
Kevin Aiken, Ukepeke Ukenen, and UC Saros. They
have three holy bless yous, each one of the lines.
I feel his eyes wide and I wasn't even looking
at him. I could feel the fear. There's a bird
box in the TV right now because of it. Well,
call it a new nickname again before we totally
bust you. How's that one? Already did. All right,
moving on to Sweden. We have for the fours, you
have Viktor Arvidsson. Felt Forsberg and the
gust of none gust of nine quiz Just a brat William
Carlson and Elias Pettersson Leo Carlson Adrian
campaign and Lucas Raymond He's Swedish. I know
I didn't think he was Swedish either what Lucas,
right? Joel arkison ec Elias Lindholm and Mika
Sabanajad and then the alternate William Nylander.
And on defense is Ramza Anderson, Ramza Stalin,
Victor Hedman, Jonas Brodin, Matthias Eklum,
Eric Carlson, and Gustav Forslund. And then your
goaltenders are Philip Gustafson, Diego Markström,
and Linus Almark. Alright, Team USAV. The force
decently find you Alright, for my fours, I got
Matt Goldie, Jack Hughes, Brock Nelson, Kyle
Connor, Chris Crider, Brady Kachuck, Jack Eichel,
Bill Morgan, Matthew Kachuck, then we got Jake
Edsel, Austin Matthews, Vinny Trocheck, with
JTB the 13th ford. Then you got the Defensive
Parents right now, and Brock Faber, Adam Fox,
Noah Hanifin, Quinn Hughes, Jakub Saban and Zach
Lewinsky with Charlie McAvoy being that seventh
defenseman. And your goaltending trio is Connor
Halbuck, Jake Ottinger, and Jeremy Swain. And
then real quickly, I saw somebody on TikTok do
this. I think if they were just going around,
I think it was some studio. I wish I could remember
who it was. They just asked. I don't know if
it's been released or not, but if you could choose
the captain for each roster, who are you choosing?
Sidney Crosby of Canada. That's what pretty much
everybody said. Even asked McDavid, he goes,
that's Sidney Crosby. There's no question. McDavid
himself said that shouldn't be a question. It's
Sid. I don't give a fuck who else is on the roster.
Sidney Crosby is coming with me to happen for
Team Canada. Finland, who do we think it should
be? Probably either Patrick Lade or Kapil Kakko.
I was honestly going to say Barkov. I'd say Barkov.
Yeah, Barkov feels like a good fit. I mean...
Barkov is, I think, one of the only two, or the
only one on, actually, yeah, the only one on
that list. I think that actually is... A captain.
A captain. Other players that deserve a letter
like an A is Ajo, Laine, and Hyskonen. Hyskonen,
I think, yeah, Laine, I think, could give it
to you. Rantino could potentially move with an
A too. Yeah, Rantino. Yeah, as a fourth option,
but either way, I don't think... I think it goes
to Barkov. Barkov or A, I wouldn't be mad if
they get to Ajo either, so... And then for Sweden,
I'd probably say... Elias Pedersen or Lucas Raymond.
I would say Philip Forsberg or Victor Hedman.
Oh, I totally forgot about Hedman. I was going
to say either Hedman or Zabana Jed. I think Zabana
Jed can do it too. He'd very easily be it. I
think Gustav Forslund should be in, Captain.
I think Yanni Bless you should be in. And then
Team USA. There's a lot of choices for Team USA.
Brady can chuck Dylan Mark and obviously current
captains. Austin Matthews also a current captain.
Quinn Hughes. It could be Quinn Hughes. It could
be Jack. It could be Matthew Kachuk. There's
easily eight different choices you can choose
from this. I'll also say you got former captain
Jack Ico on there. Who's the captain? You got
Jack Ico on there. It could be it. Adam Fox could
potentially be it. If I had to choose a final
vote, I'd be a toss -up between Matthews and
Matthew Kachuk. For me. See, I agree with Matthews,
but I think Dylan Larkin could be the other one.
Captain America. Pretty much. Yeah, Captain America.
Seriously, you're in the Motor City, and you're
captain of one of the shittiest teams in... Well,
not one of the shittiest teams, a shitty team.
I was thinking one of the Kachuk brothers. That's
what I said. I said either Austin Matthews or
Matthew Kachas. I said my two would be Matthews
and then Matthew Kachas. I was going to say Brady
obviously wears that C up in Ottawa and Matthew
is only wears that. The best he's ever gotten
is an A and that's mostly in Florida. Otis wants
to close out the show with us. Jeff, you got
anything else? Nope. I don't think so. Kyle?
That's true. That's good. Otis, you got anything
else Boa? He's just looking he's just looking
around all right, that'll do it I'm surprised
this cat is in vocal mouth as he was when Kyle
walked in All right, that's it. You know We're
been and we think we may be back for the next
two consecutive weeks and then take our holiday
break that we do every year and then so we're
thinking the 15th the 22nd for recording dates
and then return back would be what the 5th of
January the new episode of the new calendar year
would be January 6th at 11 a .m eastern standard
time that never changes 11 a .m eastern standard
time unless we have either editing or just scheduling
issues but you guys know it always comes out
11 a .m monday morning the morning after recording
so Yeah, that about does it. And normal outro
bullshit that you've heard every single episode,
every single season, ever since day one. Yeah.
Minus a couple additions to social media, but
oh wow. Alright, well. Until we meet again, we
are... YAH! Vlogmas is vlogmas. This gives me
every fucking time. We are your Buckbusters Podcast.
Peace out guys. See ya. Peace.