Hi everyone, welcome back to my channel. My name is Stacey. Thank you so much for being here today.
I am so excited to be hosting this roundtable today because as a social media manager, I think
it is absolutely embarrassing to how little I know of TikTok because I tend to stay away from
a platform. As someone who has ADHD, I feel like I would spend my entire life there as you continuously
scroll and scroll and scroll and scroll. But I thought it would be very fun and as well,
I thought and it was Tattooed Simmer who also thought this would be a very fun podcast to do.
So I have some of the best of the best TikTokers, TikTokers, Simmers here to kind of share with
some of the knowledge. So guys, thank you so much for coming here today. Thank you. Thank you.
Thanks for having us. Yes, of course. You are very, very welcome. Well, while we, that's okay.
Why don't we start us off with a quick round of introductions. Cookie, you go first. Hi, I'm
Alayna. Cookie Creatives, my name on Instagram, TikTok, and my account's named after my dog.
I don't know what else to say. I love that though. I love that. I love Cookie. Anytime Cookie's on the
beach, it gives me life. I know that one day I could be a dog on the beach. Oh yeah. She's
my goals. Living her best life, honestly. I love it. I, Gerald, how about you?
Jannard, I go by Nardvillain, Nardvillain on TikTok, YouTube, Twitch, and then NardSims on
Instagram. And I've been producing content for the Sims for since 2020, I believe. Yeah,
2020. Congrats on almost two years. Yeah. Yeah. Thank you. You are very welcome. I'm also excited
for everyone to listen to our podcast. Okay, like you don't have no idea. I think about it all the
time that me and you need to go into radio together. Yeah, we should. I know we should. I don't, I don't.
Do you trim it up? Or do you think your audience is ready for like that five hour long interview we
did? I did not. It wasn't five hours. It was not. It was just slightly under two hours. Oh, okay,
okay. Which is not bad. The longest one right now is two hours and 58 minutes and change.
And that was the not so buried podcast. Oh my God. That was must have been said. I know, right?
It was, we went through every single generation. Nice. And the tips and tricks for everything.
And I sat there and I had another podcast ever after it actually bled into the other one. I
messaging the other person being like, Hey, man, I'm currently filming a podcast right now. And
it's like, I can't like, please give me an extra 30 minutes. That podcast, the one after was two
hours and 45 minutes. It was the mental health podcast. So in one weekend, that was that that
was the same weekend we did this Instagram. Yes. So you guys remember that you guys had held for two
and a half hours for a day and then a hundred baby challenge was like, Yo, hold my beer. I'm
going to fucking I'm going to go after that weekend. That was like nine hours of podcast
filming. I was like, I can't do this. And talk to me. Don't talk to me, everyone. Anyways,
Naradvillan, I'm so excited to have you back here today. Hip hip Renee, how about you? Hi,
you can pretend that you can see me. I don't know what's going on there. But hi, I'm hip hip Renee.
I started off on YouTube and during the global panini, I moved over to TikTok. And that's kind
of my main thing right now. So yeah, super excited to be here. I appreciate that you called it a
panini. Yeah, global panorama. Okay, well, I love it. Well, like I said, I actually have questions,
not printed out because who owns up who has a printer in their house? I have a printer.
Someone's got them like together. I have a printer and I use a fax machine almost every day at work.
I just want to point that out. Oh my god. So I aspire to be you and I'm older because I
everyone else does too. So I get it. Okay, yeah, I'll just I'll just get in line. I'll just put
that I'll go Margot Margot Robbie, Jennifer Lawrence and then hip hip Renee. Yes, that is the
order of my inspiration wall. Yes. I mean, you even have Sims five named after you. I mean,
project Renee. Oh, that's true. I do. It's amazing. I love it. It being named after me. It's so good.
I messaged some guru ninja immediately after and I was like, thank you. I'm glad you took inspiration.
Yeah. Well, I love it. Here's the first question. How come you chose TikTok to start sharing your
platform? Sorry, how come you chose TikTok? One of the internet's most loving love to hate platforms
to share your content as anybody can go first. Oh boy. I just wanted people to I just wanted
trying to have my information, you know, that's all I needed, you know, for TikTok is just for
them to take my information. No, I'm just kidding. Bad joke. I was I started on YouTube. So I was
just wanted to just have another outlet. And a lot of people were telling me, especially what's
his name, V. Everybody know who V is. He was talking about he was raving about TikTok. So I kind
of hopped on the bandwagon a little too late, but I just thought it'd be great for the for my
engagement. So I just started kind of trimming up what I already had produced into a little short
form clips. And just in like the third video, I got like 500 views. And I thought, oh my god, 500
views. That's like amazing. So, so I just started pushing it. Because I think TikTok at the beginning
was kind of like giving me a lot of views to keep me wanting to produce content on it. And then as
I started watching other creators on TikTok, the platform just got slightly addicted for me,
addicting. So I just started just kind of like produce producing more content strictly for short
form. And then before you know it, I just it just became consistent for me. And that's pretty much
how I got the start is just, you know, wanting another platform, other than YouTube, to kind of
push out my content. Yeah, can I can I ask so you took the content on YouTube and you take
like your shorts, I do still post them everywhere else as well, just to kind of get that spread
talk exclusive content that's not on YouTube. Every once in a while, I might do exclusive
content for TikTok, like if I'm using stuff within the app, that might not make sense or
register right on Instagram, then I'll just keep it exclusively for TikTok. A lot of times I don't
really use a lot of stuff native to TikTok. I like to do everything in product and post production.
I like sometimes to create my own captions and create I do everything the hard way, I guess.
I should probably start taking advantage of actually utilizing the the app features because
I think that's what the app is there for is to just show that anybody, everybody, even your even
your grandparents can can be TikTok people, you know, they can just use your phone, because we
have everything for you, green screen and stuff like that. So at the beginning, yeah, that's what
I was doing. I was like utilizing the app for its features and then saving it to my my phone and
then using it over to YouTube and stuff like that in Instagram. But now I just probably I don't do it
as much as I did in the beginning. So to answer your question, yeah, I did it first. But now I just
kind of if it's going to be on TikTok and I'm using their app features, then it's probably going to be
exclusive for for TikTok. Okay, I think that's a good question because I know a lot of people
transfer over. So it's on shorts, TikToks and reels. And I kind of find like, like, like videos that
you would make would do better on TikTok than they would ever do on reels because it's original audio
versus song. Anything song will get so much more love on reels, but original audio gets no love
when it comes to reels. Well, anyways, thank you for sharing cookie. How about you?
Okay, well, you know, I started with Instagram and then during the pinning, I was seeing that
TikTok was going crazy. So I posted like one or two things. One thing I posted did really well on
Reddit. Like it got picked up by Gaming Bible. So I was like, all right, I'm going to use that video
and then make a TikTok. It did not do well. And then I was like, okay, I'll make one more. It did
not do well. I didn't touch it for years. It was just my personal, it was like, just code created,
but I would just follow random people. I was just using it for personal use. But then, like, this
year, since I was making all these reels, I'm like, I'll just post them over to TikTok. Not a big deal.
I noticed that a lot of the songs on TikTok were about a minute long. And most of my reels are at
least a minute and a half. Well, that's a max time. And so that's when I started doing these
voiceovers since I found that was easier than trying to find a song that matched. And I started
doing that just like a couple months ago. And it was just very recently where I started doing like
a few more tutorials because people are always asking me, what's the red shell? What's that? What are
you doing? So I'm like, all right, I'm just going to make a video instead of typing out the answer
50 times. And then I got a couple videos that actually started doing good, doing well. And
then I'm like, all right, maybe I should start focusing on TikTok more. Like,
the past like two months, I've gotten 10,000 plus followers. Like, I'm growing so much faster
there. Like Instagram, I feel like it's pulling teeth for like making content, getting people
engaged. TikTok, some of my videos won't do that well. Some of them will get a million. And I'm
like, what? I'm not getting this kind of attention on Instagram. So that's why I, it's like, I almost
like accidentally started doing it because it just wasn't my intention. I didn't really see myself as
a TikTok person, but now I'm like, I'm focusing more on TikTok than Instagram, which just feels so
weird to say. Hey, I feel like that is weird to say. I feel like a lot of people made the switch
because it was, was it like last October, November, when Amazon plays? So when Instagram was like,
you know what, we're gonna be fucking TikTok and we're going to start putting ads.
They ruined it. I mean, it did.
Not in the sense it's an Instagram, but like when they started doing the real feature,
and then I started putting all this energy into editing videos. And I also use my computer to
edit everything. I might finish them off with the app, but I'm like, well, if I'm making all this
content, I might as well be posting it on other platforms since I can't just post photos on Instagram
anymore. Well, you could, but you could, but I mean, God forbid, like it's like, it's literally
pulling teeth. Like right now, like my main stasi page, it's just like I'm banging my fucking head
against the wall because you go through these periods of like these ups and downs, like what we
talked about in the Simstagram podcast is when you're on a high, you're on a fucking high. But
when you're on a low, you're on a fucking low. Yeah. And you just lose followers. Like
I will go through a day where I hit it my off zone and then it'll go back down because I didn't post
for one day. TikTok, I'm like, oh, I cannot post for a couple of days and it's not going to affect
any of my engagement, any of the people following me. I'm like, it's so much less stressful of a
platform, which I mean, if you would have asked me this six months ago, I'd be like, I'm not going
to mess with TikTok, but I've even been doing testing where like A, B testing, I'll post something,
the same video on TikTok and Instagram the same day, TikTok will perform so much better.
And I'm like, okay, well, I've been wasting my time. Well, not wasting, but this is where I
should be focusing my energy, TikTok. So very interesting. No, that definitely is very interesting.
I think it's, I think it's just because like TikTok is just, I think TikTok is now beaten
Instagram when it comes to ads. And when you think about who uses Instagram, you're following your
friends or cousins, all your, the people you know, so you're less likely to follow businesses or
since the Graham accounts, but my TikTok, you're looking for the content you're just interested
in. Yeah, one of my cousins, but like I'm mostly following comedians or skit people, other niche
interests. So I think TikTok was designed for content creators to be successful. It's really
interesting. But I will, I definitely will say that TikTok will humble you. Oh, I'm shocked.
Every once in a while, you would get that, you know, nice little 500,000 views or maybe even
a million views. And then that third post, like 200 views. It'll humble you. It'll humble you.
And you're, it's probably the poster like this is going to do so well. Yeah. You're going to love this one.
Yeah. Well, cookie, thank you for sharing. Last but not least, Hippin Pernay.
Yeah. So my story, I would say is similar to Nard where I started off on YouTube and my YouTube
content is very different from my TikTok content. On YouTube, I'm a little bit more serious. It's,
you know, I have my brief history videos where I talk about true crime and I talk about historical
things and I just kind of overlay it over the Sims. And I had a lot of ideas that were like
really chaotic and like really fun, but just didn't make sense in long form content, but also
didn't make sense with the other content that I was putting on my YouTube. So my thoughts were,
I could start a second YouTube channel, which seems like a lot of effort because YouTube is like,
it's so much more time intensive, I think, because it takes me five minutes to film a TikTok. And
then that TikTok could get a million views. It takes me three days to create and edit and post
a YouTube video and it could get a hundred. So I decided to take all of kind of my short form
other ideas over to TikTok. I did have access to the YouTube shorts at that time and I did post
a couple, but I just don't like putting those two things together. I feel like if I'm on YouTube,
I want long form content. If I want short form content, I'm going to go to TikTok. That's really
kind of what it's made for. So yeah, I just wanted to do something a little bit different to the
content that I had been previously making. And again, it was like 2020. So I had quite a lot
of time on my hands to be able to do just some extra stuff. Hey, I like that. I know we talked
about that in our summer spotlight last week. It's interesting because yeah, I'm a person that I
love YouTube. I would say I watch YouTube more than I watch Netflix and Crave and all the other
stuff. I love the ability of watching people create their own stuff. I have my favorite YouTubers.
I watch their stuff. It's a show. But it's always funny. You get to the end of the video. It's a
20 minute video and they're like, guys, thank you so much for staying. You guys are the true MVPs.
Like we are a fan. I'm a person. If I watch a video, I watch it through and through even if it's
a shitty video because I clicked on it. I'm going to watch it. But I know that that's the
furthest thing from the truth is most people that they watch a minute of it. Like, okay,
I watched the video. Okay, cool. Bye. Because you can tell in your YouTube mattress where people stop
watching and it is heartbreaking once in a while. Like I would I used to do speed builds?
20 seconds. Yeah. 20 seconds. Damn, they can't even make it through the intro.
So I don't even do intros anymore. I just get right to it. I'm like, all right, they don't even
want to hear what my name is. They don't care. Okay, I'm gonna have my grandma's
stoffy moment of just being like, I'm a boomer. Okay. So obviously, I am on TikTok. Okay, I mean,
who I wanted to grab the name. It was in the summer. I had this epiphany. I would make tri-files,
which is YouTube, Reel and TikTok. And I had them out there and I transferred over. I never really,
it never really, I didn't really put as much effort in. I would just kind of schedule my content and
leave just because I was very anti. I don't want to be on the platform of just because I would get
there. By the time I could get to my DMs or whatever, I would already have seen two TikToks.
It was just flying so quickly and I just, I couldn't dedicate myself to pull down that
rabbit hole all the time. And it's the same way with Reels. Like right now, like my girlfriend
is sending me Reels and she thinks that's my love language. It's not my love language. I get it.
I get funny Reel once in a while. But I think the problem is, is I can't understand what the
fuck these kids are saying on TikTok. Okay, so they were trying to get your attention in the
first five seconds. Because if you don't have your attention in the first five seconds, it's
gone. That's literally what they taught me when I had to redo the everything you need to know
about TikTok from corporate America. And it was awful. Like not, I mean, what they trade was awful
and what you have to do. Because basically, okay, good. Okay, so here's everything. Here's everything.
Here's, because the thing is, they know your one thumb swipe away from just going to the next
video. So they have to grab your attention in the first one, which is causing people to have
focus problems, I feel like, because, because like now you're just like, okay, look, I don't like this
one. I'm off to the next, off to the next, off to the next. And then you realize it's like an hour
later and you're just like, Oh my God, like it's almost like playing Sims. Yeah. Like I was off all
week. I did a lot of Sims playing, getting myself caught up making Rose Chronicles. And I would,
it was like, I would be making a chap, like I'd be making two slides or take me three hours. I'd
be like, Oh my God, that was three hours. Shit. So I kind of feel like that's the same way with
TikTok that like, like YouTube content, long format is going to die because they don't have the
tension span to even watch a minute and a half short or a minute short versus a 20 minute video.
And I, that kind of makes me really sad that we're going into that, that way of just like,
always wanting, because it's basically gambling. Right. You're just like, let's keep going, let's
keep going, let's keep going, let's keep going, because it's, it's, it's never ending. There's no
end to your TikTok. They will find something. And I will say they are significantly better at
finding what you're interested in. Like significantly. So for an example, I, for work, I wanted to be a
dick and basically something, because I used to work for a sign company and I don't work for them
anymore. So I can now bash them because I did not sign an NDA when I left because they're idiots. So
I for a week did, I only looked at anti-trudeau stuff just for fun. I just wanted to see,
I would just Google anything. A week later, I was getting QAnon stuff, PPC. It, all it took was me
watching three videos and the algorithm went that was, I think that's really dangerous. And that's
how a lot of misinformation is spread. So again, as I am an old lady, that's my stance, but that's
not just TikTok. That's everybody. That is every Facebook even. Oh God, Facebook is the worst.
The worst. Facebook is the worst. I literally, I go to a chamber of your own thoughts and they're
like, then people go, Oh, well, everyone thinks the way I think, because that's all I'm seeing.
Yes. Not really. Well, yeah, because the algorithm shows you what you want to see, which again can
be scary, but my husband and I do this thing where we watch, like, we'll hold each other's phones and
we'll be like, all right, let's, I want to watch your for you page. You watch mine. And he has such
different content than I do because of just the things that we like. And it's really interesting.
Oh yeah. I like my for you page. Don't get me wrong, but it's nice to see like,
what, what else is out there? So much. I'm not seeing. Oh yeah. Saucy's main one. I get hair,
princess dresses and wedding. I have no Sims. I have nothing. Sin is related. But on the podcast
page, I have Canada rights for some unknown reason. I'm Canadian, but it's not like it's like
Canadian fact number one, did you know that it is illegal to chew gum on a Saturday in a small
city and task it to you? Yeah, it's weird rules that like, because Canada has a lot of weird
rules and like really small cities. Like I'm talking like a city that has like 50 people. Oh,
we are, we are always like, you could drive through town. Like my girlfriend just moved to
a small town two weekends ago. There's a thousand people that live there. I guess very common to
be in the fuck, fuck, nowhere, especially in this province. This province is massive. You can fit
Texas five times in this province. Oh my God. You can't even live in all the province because
it's all it's bears in Arctic. The further north you go. Anyways, long story short. And for Rose
Chronicles, I just, it's Sims. It's all Sims. Everything Sims. And that's the platform I use
the most. Like, sorry, the least to be honest with you. But yeah, Stossi, the one I use the most,
no Sims content. So I have a question because this is something that I've also noticed on
your main Stossi page. Do you follow Sims Tik Tokers? I don't know if you're a Sims Tik Toker
or not. Because so what I've noticed, because I on my for you page, I do not get Sims content at
all. Same because I follow so many Sims talkers and they're in my following page. So they already
know that I want to see that stuff. And I already am following probably all of the people that I
want to be following at this point. So I don't get it in my for you page because why are they going
to show me this new content when I already have it over here? So I think that's more what it is,
is that when you start following a lot of things that are within the same niche, you're not going
to get that as much on your for you page because they want you checking out new things and not
thinking that you're already following, which is kind of a good thing, but also a bad thing. Yeah,
yeah, I would rather see the content that I signed up for because when I go to my for you page on
Tik Tok, it's like just random like viral video skits and entertain. I get a lot of entertainment
stuff. And here and there, I'll get like, you know, if I sit on something a little too long,
you know, like some little eye candy or something. And all of a sudden I got eye candy in the for
you page. I'm like, so every time I see eye candy, I got to like kind of swipe, you know, pretty fast.
But, but, um, but yeah, so it's kind of weird. So I just want to see what's on like the people that
I'm following. So I'm like, because I have to literally go and search like hip hip Renee or
search Daniel Bill just to see what they're up to, you know, just, and I wish I can just be able
to still see that, even though I know it's there, it's just a different tab, obviously. But yeah,
I wish that tab was as soon as you open the the app, I wish that tab was the first thing you open
up. But Tik Tok smart, they're like, we don't want to want you to just see that first. We want you
to see new content. That's the purpose of the platform. So yeah. And I feel like it devolves
even more from there because you have your for you page, but then you start following people and it
goes to the following page. But then those people start following you back and now they're only on
your friends page. So like, I don't see any of nerds content unless I go to my friends page.
He's not on my following. He's not on my for you page. Yeah. Because we're sure I'm not blocked.
It sounds like my friend. I think I'm just blocked. Yeah. I'm just kidding. You can tell us it's fine.
He totally is. He's the only person on my block list. So okay.
Well, moving on, I have another question. So everybody here kind of has a different style of
creating content. I want to know how do you create content for your audience and anyone
can go first? Go nuts. I open my phone when I have a weird idea in my brain and I film it and I post
it. I do not do any editing. I do not rerecord things. I post it if it does well, it does well.
And if it doesn't, it doesn't took up three minutes of my time and I'm done for the day.
That's how I do my content. That's how I do my content. That's how I do my content. Goals. Those are my new goals.
That's what I do. For me. All right. Same. Okay. So walk, okay. Walk me through. Tell me, okay. You have
a weird idea right now. What is your weird idea and from start to finish? So let's say, so I came
up with one day, and now this is a series at this point, but I came up with, I had seen, her name
is color me lovely. I don't know if you guys have seen her stuff, but she does the the PR skits
where I'm like it'll be like King Charles calling and it's like topical things. And I was like,
that's a good idea. How can I use that idea? And I was like, oh my god, what if I was a Sims 911
operator because I had the idea of like a phone and answering a phone. So I was like Sims 911
operator, what could be happening? Okay, someone is in a pool and someone put a fence around the pool.
And I literally set up my phone on my tripod and I started talking to myself. I filmed it one time.
I posted it and it got like hundreds of thousands of views. And now I make it a series. So every once
in a while I'll come up with an idea and be like, oh, what if someone was like kicking over a trash can
in someone's yard. So they called 911 and they were mad about someone kicking. So I'll just
and I just hope that I word bomb it like funny things. And sometimes I do and sometimes I don't.
But yeah, I just do it. I don't put any thought behind my TikToks whatsoever. That's why I do
TikTok because I feel like it's just like I can get all the weird things that I think of in my brain.
And that's what I love about your content because I've seen your content and I'm a huge fan of your
YouTube content and I know how much work you put into your YouTube videos. Because I've been following
you since I've actually joined the Sims community a couple of years ago. And it's an honor to be
obviously just chatting with all three of you, by the way. So I'll be in a way. But yeah, so I
so when I see your TikToks, I love them too, just because I know like just that you're just having
fun and you're not really putting like a lot of like not I ain't gonna say effort, but just like
because I know, like I said, because it's so much different than your YouTube audience, you know, so
yeah kudos. Just I enjoy the chaos. That's why I do it is to be chaotic as possible. So
I love it. Nard, how about you?
It just depends. Like I like to kind of produce mine. I probably should be more like hip hip
Renee because I do the same stuff on YouTube where I actually have to write a script or at
least jot down the talking point. So I know what I'm talking about. So that way I don't have to,
you know, correct the haters in the comments because I didn't do my homework right or whatever.
But I just like for example, if I want to do one of my segments like the Sims 4 TV news,
like I like to do these little new segments on TikTok, where I will take some Sims content
that's in my game and I'll like create a new segment around it. And so what I would have to do
is I would have to write the script because it's obviously a new script, I can kind of improvise
it too because I'm really good at that. And then I have to, you know, where my, I have like this
persona where I wear like my cowboy hat and I have a suit on, I'm in the green screen, I got my box
lights. So I make, I literally make it look like a professional news station. I love the videos.
Yeah. So, so all that work, it takes like maybe an hour just to like, you know, maybe put the
script together, come up with the concept, the production, put the box lights up, you know,
record on the green screen, bring it all into the Premiere Pro CC, and then I have to key off
the green screen. And then after I do all that, I piece together the segment, now I got to go into
the Sims 4 and then record the gameplay, got to make the Sims do what you want them to do. So your
script can actually make sense because they have their mind of their own too.
Which I have another segment for that. But so yeah, and then after that, that's another hour,
maybe hour and a half. And so with all that, that's almost what three, four hours of just
something that could have easily been like 30 minutes or less if I use the the in app features
on TikTok, but instead I rather go that whole hard route and produce it, write it,
do the production a little bit better, because I want to be able to use this throughout, you know,
YouTube and Instagram as well. And I just want to keep the quality the same. Like if I'm already
doing it that way on TikTok, I want people to know that every time I do that segment, it's going to
be the same. So yeah, about five hours of production or overall five, five hours of work, and then
maybe 2000 views. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. That's how it always works. And then I do something on my phone,
maybe 100,000 views. Easy peasy. Always. Always. Well, Nara, thank you for sharing. Cookie, how about you?
So depending on what I'm making, if it's a like, I've been starting to do my speed builds a little
different than I would do on Instagram. I've been taking, I've speeded up two times, just twice,
but I take like about two second increments and then I piece them all together and then the build
is like slowly building. But doing that, like clipping all those things for a build, I'm already
recording anyway for YouTube, which my YouTube is not impressive. I post like hope I want to do
once a week, but I just don't. But I'm already filming for other reasons. I'm not just filming for
TikTok. I'm doing Reels also with this. So when I think of the time I spent, I'm like, well, this is
cross platform. So at least this is for multiple things. But from start to finish with those,
because I also do a voiceover when I'm done, takes at least like two, three hours, which I'm trying
to get faster, but just trying to pick out the important things I want people to see like tricks,
like I'm using tool mod in a really unique way. So I want to include that in the video. And I,
you think it would be fast, just like, Oh, pull out these things. But I'm like, I need to pull out
the most important parts that are going to capture people's attention. And then when I do the voice
overs, I do them in little clips at a time because like right now, I just like couldn't think of what
to say. So with TikTok, like you said, you need to talk at them. So I talk as fast as I can. And
I just clip it all together. And then that will be about a minute and a half. I have everything
at minute and a half. So I can post on reels and TikTok without any extra editing or anything like
that. Since, um, yeah, I just don't want to spend my time simply on one thing. I want to be able to
spread it across. The only thing is with shorts, it has to be a minute. And that's why I don't post
it. Just not enough. But then I do these tutorials, which I'm kind of new at. And they take me a while,
but they're about like an hour or two hours. Because I have to, I wouldn't say a script per se,
but more bullet points. Because, you know, if you miss something, people are going to let you know
like, oh, well, I do it this way. And it works. I'm like, okay, that's cool. Thanks. So you just
like want to make sure you have all those talking points, or else people will call you out on it.
But yeah, so I think that the little bit of pressure there of make sure I say everything
right, because people will know if it's not right. So not writing a script, but like,
keeping, keeping tabs of what I'm saying and making sure I hit all the points. So doing all that does
take time. But yeah, I would say roughly three hours per video. Not 40 seconds. I need to get
that. So I, Hey, paper, day, it's why I brought you on. We got, we got, we got, we got, yeah,
sure. Guys, all you got to do is just make your content as shitty as possible. And for some reason,
people will watch it. I don't know why. I don't understand it. Okay. Cause I started, when I
first started off my TikTok, I did a lot of like, I'm going to put this into premiere. I'm going to
make it look nice. I'm going to do a professional voiceover. I'm going to pick, then I started
filming my screen. And that's, that's when I took off. Honestly, think that it's also because,
again, I think TikTok really wants the other users to see how easy it is to just implement
what Renee's doing, like the green screen on your phone, the voiceover features on the phone and,
and all that just to show. And then when you're scrolling, it doesn't look like an ad. It looks
like someone literally is a, you know, TikTok video. So when, if you don't know who I am and you see
my video, you might just think that it's a legit Sims 4 ad because sometimes it starts out and it
looks a little polished. And it's like, Oh wow, this, is this an ad or is this an actual video?
Yeah, I'm trying to find that like, because people want that unique, but almost personal content.
It like, Oh, it feels like I'm in their world. They're just recording their, their screen,
something funny instead of something so polished, because we see so much polished content out there,
especially for ads and stuff. So trying to be okay with it, not being perfect is the hardest thing.
Yeah. It took me a while to get there. Yeah. Yeah, I did not understand it for,
because I was posting videos and I was like, these are doing really well on YouTube. Like,
I don't understand why this isn't doing well on TikTok. And then I just kind of like,
let go a little bit. And now I'm way more comfortable. I fill my screen. You can see the
lines on my screen and see like my rat cages behind me and I don't put makeup on anymore. Like, I just,
I just do it. I just don't, I feel like, I don't want to say I don't care because I do care about
my content. I care about the content that I make, but less caring about kind of what people are
thinking of me. Like, you're going to like my content or you're not. It's no skin off my back,
either way, honestly. And if you don't like it, you're probably going to comment on it.
And that's going to be better for me anyway. Engagement. Yeah. And then if people get in
a little fight in your comics, I have one of those happening right now. I've been very interested
in keeping track of it. See, that is fascinating. And thank you guys so much for sharing. I've had
the opposite effect. So I would, I would post like short bits of like the podcast at the beginning.
No one would, they would actually would come and listen to the podcast. They would grab their
snippet. They had the idea what the interview was and then left. Like I, it was just, it was
so weird. Once I stopped, my listeners went right back up. Hmm. I literally just said no. Like,
I'm not going to waste, because like I, as an artist, I would take, because I do this in Premiere
Pro. I have the Dewey Suite. I would find a specific clip. I would edit it very out. I had the
frames to go around it. Like making a reel would take me about an hour trying to, sorry,
I just ticked off her, whatever, for all the platforms. And I, and I did it. And I, like no one would listen
and no one would care. And they would be like, okay, cool. So like, this is like,
so this is who she's talking to, blah, blah, blah. That was it. So I was like, you know what,
I put way too much time into this podcast to you take a minute, listen, and you're like,
okay, I'm going to need to listen to this podcast. In my mind, I thought you would see a snippet
of it to see, oh, fuck, I really want to listen to this because I would pick the funniest part of
the, I would literally, if you go back and watch the first part of the season, you would see me
continuously clocking, looking at the clock, because that's when I knew when this spot was.
Oh, yeah. You could continuously keep seeing me doing that, because I had to know because
these podcasts are like hours long, I would literally have to be like, okay, well, like this
is, this is the best 30 second clip and it would always be the funny or just like we get like,
laughing and just to show like it was a good time. No one would, they would just be like,
okay, cool. That's who she interviewed. Awesome. Like, oh, cool. I saw it. I saw it. I saw it.
Yeah. Right. So, or people would be like, I didn't like listen to your podcast, but I like
watched the reel and it was, it was okay. And I'm like, okay, so no, I want you to come listen to
this content because the people I'm interviewing, I want you to listen to them and get to learn their
story, not the like, not the 10 second clip. And then I did a bunch of like reels that was like
funniest game pack, best game pack and stuff. And I put that on TikTok that nothing didn't
fucking go anywhere. Reels though, 100,000. They are the opposite. It's the opposite. It's the
complete opposite. Yeah. So I was just like, you know, I fuck this. I don't have time. You know
what I notice? I mean, this is hopefully just, this is super random, but room builds. I mean,
that performs so well on reels. If I do a room build on TikTok, I get like, I'm lucky to get
5,000 views. Yeah. It's weird. And yeah, I'm like, it's the same thing I'm doing, but like,
some reels like certain videos and then TikToks like certain videos. I can't, I'm still learning.
I feel like it's an entirely different audience because I have an Instagram. I don't use it.
Instagram was like just slightly past my time. I'm 36. So it's like just past the time where I
was like into that type of social media and it just didn't do it for me. And I never got into it
since I opened my Instagram once a month to check my DMs because sometimes people will DM me.
Yes. Yes. That's why I didn't answer you because I don't open my Instagram, but I'm on TikTok
every single day. So I think it's just, it's the type of people who are watching that content are
on different platforms. And I feel like if you're a builder too, I feel like you already, that's why
I really appreciate you cookie because I feel like people who can build is just like amazing
because that's one thing I can't do. And so when I'm on Instagram, that's all I see on my For You
page is just people building. So I just feel like if I was a builder, I think I could maybe have
more leverage on Instagram versus TikTok. And then even when you go on a TikTok, I think people are
still looking for builds and how to do stuff. So I think if you continue with your tutorials,
I think those will also pop off at some point because some people are looking for that. And
what I've noticed about TikTok is once you start doing something, I know my phone, my camera died,
I'll switch the battery out. But I noticed when you do something a little more consistent,
eventually the algorithm will kind of where the audience is well, I like to call it will catch
onto it and hope in hopes that it'll start getting more reach and getting into playlists.
As a huge one, tutorials for the Sims do extremely well on TikTok. You just need to be
noticed first because I feel like while they do well, it's also not something that TikTok super
pushes. So you kind of have to have like that built in audience a little bit that wants to see
those tutorials. And then it's going to start getting pushed out because the TikTok algorithm,
as far as I'm concerned, is like the wild west of social media. It makes zero sense. There's
no rhyme or reason to it whatsoever. But like, if you stay consistent with things like that,
tutorials do exceptionally well. That's great, because I'm going to film one today.
I'm just curious, how many posts do you guys do a week? Do you even have a schedule for TikTok?
I would say that I have a schedule. I make it a point to post at minimum one a day.
That's as long as I can hit one a day, I'm happy. But there are day yesterday I posted four,
because I had these videos. So I tend to batch create my content because again,
it doesn't take me very long to make my content. So I'll sit down for like three hours and bust
out every single TikTok for the week plus some. So I noticed yesterday that my videos were getting,
I've been getting really shit views lately. And yesterday my videos were like popping off.
So I was like, I have some really good videos on my drafts. I'm posting them now. And they're
going to do well or they're not going to do well. Every single one of them did really well.
I just want to throw that out there. I was really impressed with myself. But I did four yesterday.
But there are days where, during the week, Monday through Thursday, I work a real person job, a
hard real person job. So whenever I have a little break, I'll see if I can post something. And if
I can, I can. And if I can't, I can't. But usually like weekends, I'll post two to three
a day at minimum. Yeah. That's awesome. That is a great goal. I mean, I'm trying to do like
five days a week because of how long the content takes. But yeah, like I'll, I do try to give
myself a day off right now until I figure out how to make some faster. I would like some fast
content in between some of the longer videos. Like what you said, just quick, because I do a lot of
gameplay in real life. It's some aside, I don't show on my Instagram or TikTok. I would love to
show that I'm actually a player also. I don't just build. So how can I make unique content for me?
I don't want to copy someone else. I just have to figure it out. So yeah, one of the things that I
tend to do, and this is for, so I have like my main content, which is like my main series,
the Roasting Your Builds, the Murder Gauntlet, the whatever else, the Sims 911, I have all those.
And I try and post at least a couple of those a week. Those are my main, that's my video for
everyday situation. But I have so many just like random TikTok audio saved. And every once in a
while, I'll just go through my audios and listen to them. And I hear something and I'm like, oh,
yeah, that would be really funny with the gameplay that I've been doing on my own. So I use that as
like my backup content. And that's just something that I can post as my second video or my third
video. Or if I don't have anything filmed for that day, because I didn't batch film enough,
I have something in my drafts at least. So I feel like audios on TikTok do pretty well.
You're giving me so many ideas right now. I know that those exist. When I'm watching my own, I'm like,
that was really funny. I save every audio that I hear that I even remotely like.
So smart. I never think to save them. I never think like, how can I do that? Yeah,
yeah, guys are smart. I'm still like a newbie for this. Well, I have to ask,
do you guys ever schedule your content on TikTok? Sometimes. So as far as I can tell,
the only way to like sit like actually like schedule your content is if you upload it via
your computer. Yes, I've never been able to find a way to do it in the app. And I do everything
on my phone. So I just put it in my drafts. And I post it when I feel like it's an appropriate time
to post it. So yes, but not technically, I guess. Yeah, no, I got you. Yeah, because I would just
throw it online and because you can go 11 days out. So you could just say, okay, cool. So I'll
do this will be my podcast. I would have it come out for the Wednesday because it's been
podcasts coming out. Just kind of stuff like that. It made life a little easier for something,
someone who's like, real time job. I don't know. I can't just sit and because I could be in a meeting
at 2pm on Wednesday, but I can just go ahead and do that now. And then side note that now you can
do that on Instagram for 90 plus days, you can schedule your content out. That is a fucking game
changer. I have all my podcasts post scheduled out till June. I have all the Rose Chronicles
scheduled. I have all of the story spot like out till June. And I don't even have to do anything.
I just spent four hours, got two, two and a half months worth of scheduling out. I'm good to go.
I can continue on with my life, which I love. I love that as a schedule, especially as a social
media manager. That is a fucking credible feature that I can manage multiple accounts, right? It's
nice. I can just, you can go in and schedule. I feel like it's very different with TikTok.
Because there is not a consistent day of the week or time that you really should be posting your
video. I could post a video every Saturday morning at 9am and one Saturday it's going to get a million
views. One Saturday it's going to get 27 views. So I like to wait until I notice I'm getting a lot
of notifications. So when I'm getting a lot of likes or I'm getting a lot of comments on other
videos, that's the time I want to be posting. I don't want to schedule something and hope that
that's going to be a good time of day. As opposed to YouTube, where I know if I post at noon on
Fridays, that's when brief history comes out sometimes. And that's when I post that. And
that's when people would expect it. I feel like it's very different on TikTok because there's
not a consistent time. I usually just go ahead. I just pray to the TikTok gods.
Am I a TikTok Lord? Sacrifice of Sim. It's going to humble me today, Lord. Please don't humble me
today, TikTok Lord. And then I just go from there. I see what happens. Sometimes they'll give me a
night, a good day. And then I think it too just boils down to what the audience is just feeling
that hit share for you. They're for you page. Maybe the audience is really digging a Sims 4
TV news or an update about the base game update. Once the algorithm or whatever you want to call it,
notice that more people are actually sticking around for your content. Then I think it goes to
another tier of another tier where it's like they'll push it out to 2,000 more people and then
see how that engagement works for you. And then before you know it, you're at like 100,000 and
then it's like, wow, this is crazy. And then it makes you want to keep posting more videos.
Yeah. It's like a dicting almost. It is. It is. It's like a good video. Gotta make the next one.
Yeah. I'm not going to say gambling at a slot machine. It feels like that sometimes though.
But you're like, all right. It's like, oh, I just won. I just won 20 bucks. I'll
we see if I can win that other 20, which actually leads me to my next question. So thank you, Nard
for setting me up. Okay. We all have had a one episode or one video
blow up. What did you, what was the video and what did you do after?
Oh, I, well, I can go first. Yeah. I had a video. It was like last month or so. And it was just,
I knew that the baby update was coming out. So I thought, I should make a hundred baby home.
And I'm like, well, I'll try to do as much like landscaping right away. So when people
pop on the video, since landscaping is one of those things that kind of freaks people out,
I'm going to start right away with the landscaping. And it has like
one point something million. And that was my first and so far only, but I'm getting close
to my second million video. But it was, I went from 2000 followers from this to 10,000 in like
a matter of like a week or two. It was just insane. I would have never seen such like a jump
like that. But yeah, it was just a speed build. And so that was my first speed builder of this
kind. And I'm like, okay, this is what I'm doing. I'm doing these speed builds. So it felt really good.
That's awesome. Congrats. Congrats. Thank you. First milli.
Exciting. And I'm ready to be home. I mean, I've been humbled a couple times since I'm,
but I'm like, don't get like, don't let it get to my head. Because I know if I'm, if I'm
starting to get confident, that's when the, that's the views plummet. But you deserve it. Because I
think when everybody hits their first viral moment, they should just embrace it and enjoy it. Because
I think a lot of especially now when I even hit like 200, 300,000, it's like, it doesn't phase me as much anymore.
Yeah. So I kind of miss like embracing those milestones because it is a rarity. And that's still to this day of like pushing out something that you think is good.
And it gets like a million views, especially on a platform like TikTok. So when you do just embrace it, enjoy it because I think again, the audience is so different every day.
Like one day, the right audience is on the platform. So when you push your content out, it's gonna, it's gonna do, it's gonna perform well. So yeah, congrats and enjoy it.
Thank you. Thank you. And I knew with the new updates and the new path coming out, this is the time to post because people are, they're thinking about The Sims again.
There hasn't been a big update for a while. So I think a lot of people stop playing and they're like, oh, I'm gonna play again. Let me look at some content.
Yeah, that's true. And we have a lot more new simmers too because the base game is free. So a lot of them now are wanting to know like how to how to add mods and what's a good pack to get.
Because when there's these discounts is when I like to repost my top 10 game packs or top 50 EPs or whatever, how many ever we have now. So just to remember that there's a new audience now.
We kind of have to somewhat kind of cater to them too because they're new.
I've been trying to do more base game builds right now too since so many people don't have packs. I did not realize how many people are simply base game players.
Or I mean, Instagram is so saturated with people that have like a wealth of knowledge on how to play build. And so whenever I post something there, it's like, people are like, oh, this is nice, but I already know how to do this.
They would see that. But TikTok, I'm getting real players that are like, wow, I didn't know you could make quarter tiles on the floor. And something that I thought was, I don't want to say obvious, but I just like I'm not going to post that because everyone already knows.
But yeah, it's like exciting to I can finally share knowledge here instead of Instagram where all of my friends and stuff, they already know how to do all of this stuff.
Yo, what about you Renee? My first viral video was, do you remember the, it was the TikTok audio that was, oh God, the unexpected it was like the little song from one of those kids TV shows is International Super Spy.
I did that and posted like the words on top of it that was like simmers when they only make blue suburban and then I mentioned that I do true crime builds.
So that got like a million views in like a couple hours.
And it was wild and I being the absolute fucking dumbass that I am didn't really do anything with it. Like I was still at that point that was still when I was like really curating my content.
And I just continued posting on my content and it was posting like things from my brief history builds. I always do like an intro that kind of gives like an overview of whatever it is that I'm talking about in that episode.
And I just kept posting those and they did shit, honestly. And it wasn't until I started doing things like roasting your builds or names as Sims names as Sims is one that I used to do a long time ago where I would create Sims based on names and like talk about what I thought that name was but like not in a nice way.
Like Tiffany is like the meanest person you'll ever meet in your life and then I would make Tiffany in the Sims. And it wasn't until I started doing that really sarcastic funny stuff that I started getting consistent views and consistent amounts of followers starting to come to my channel.
So yeah.
Same with me like I did.
The grilled cheese aspiration was like my very first viral video on tip time.
Which was crazy. Yeah, it wasn't like me telling you about it. It was me telling a story about a grilled cheese at it.
Yep.
And everybody A was like, oh my God, I want a grilled cheese now or why does that do look like that?
And then it was just like so many different random comments.
And I think that's kind of how I think honestly, I don't know if you guys can agree, but I think the TikTok audience kind of shaped how I started doing my content.
Like now every time I say Dag Dag, the reason why I say Dag Dag at the end of every video is because I said Dag Dag out on another viral video that I did where the Sim was drowning in first person.
Yeah.
I think I said Dag Dag on that one or whatever. There was another video that went viral that when I said Dag Dag and all the comments, everybody's like Dag Dag Dag Dag.
So yeah.
So I started making that a thing because I think like the audience is kind of shaping me into like what kind of content that kind of they kind of like from me.
Yeah.
I guess so.
It's almost like having inside jokes with your audience.
Yeah, with your audience.
People expect certain things to like come out of your mouth or be in your videos.
Like my Sim know that I use my channel mascot. She's like this the most disgusting Sim you'll see in your entire life, but people love seeing her in videos.
Yeah.
So that's a cool thing too.
Yeah.
I love it.
Now I have to ask you have you had burnout because you're chasing for the million another million dollar.
Sorry, not million dollar million view.
No, we chase it for the million dollars.
Yeah, I bring that up.
I'm trying.
But you're chasing for the million view, not dollar.
I mean, I guess exactly both for some people.
And you don't get it the next time because we talked about I take talk humbles you.
Any any light on like how it feels to get humbled.
Do you are you crushed or are you just like it's a bad day?
Well, for me, I'm since I'm like still new to posting like regularly.
I'm not crushed yet.
I'm almost expecting it.
I'm still in that point where if a video does well, I'm surprised.
So and it's actually it's just I've said before so much easier than Instagram that I am not burnout.
I'm if anything, I'm like, oh my God, I have all this time now because I'm going to shift my focus to TikTok less on Instagram.
And still posting regularly, but I'm like there's so much less pressure on TikTok.
I mean, I might get over that.
I don't know, but it's for me less stressful than Instagram.
I love it.
Hey, Piper today.
How about you?
I mean, I've definitely been burnt out, but not because of TikTok.
Like I said, I work like a normal human day job and it's very stressful.
My day job is very stressful.
So sometimes there are days where I get home and you know, I have my weekend and I'm like, I don't really like filming content this weekend.
I'm just exhausted from the week and I don't want to do it.
So I don't.
Good for you.
Yeah, good for you.
I don't. The thing and I don't get crushed by I get annoyed when I get when I post a video and I'm like, this is going to do great.
And then it gets like 12 years.
But at the end of the day for me, TikTok and creating Sims content is 100% my hobby and nothing more than that.
It is fun.
And the day it stops being fun is the day I stop making content.
I think I do say the last week.
So I think that's amazing advice because when it starts turning into a job,
unless you want it to treat it as a job, because that's different.
If you want to treat it as a job, you have to treat it as a job.
If it's a hobby, treat it as a hobby, but do not blur the lines of both because if it's a hobby turning into a job, you're going to fucking hate your life.
And if it's a job turning into a hobby, you'll be like, why am I not making the millions?
So you have to pick a lane and it doesn't matter which lane you go in, but just know if it's a hobby, make sure to treat it as a hobby versus a job.
Nard, how about you?
I would probably say I've been probably burnt out a few times because when I first started on TikTok, I was pushing out maybe three videos a day.
I was crazy with it.
And I have a full-time job too.
I mean, what I do on my Narvillian channel is kind of what I do for other clients too.
Like I provide content for them.
I do photography.
I do a lot of video work, which sometimes require me to travel.
So I'm always at my desk either editing video, editing photos.
So when I'm not doing that, I'm sprinkling in times where I can kind of create my own content.
So there's one point where I might be doing a little too much of just the production of creating content and not really sitting back and enjoying it.
Because my thing is I love creating content.
I love storytelling.
So what I like to do and the reason why I started creating content based around The Sims 4
is because at the end of the day, I like to be able to just sit back and just watch all the content that I've done.
Because I'm like, honestly, a fan of my own work.
So being able to go back.
And then the perk of that is if I can have five or six other people that enjoy the work too, I feel like I'm winning.
So but then there's moments where I don't think it's the views that burn me out.
I think it's just more of like, OK, wait a minute, I'm doing I'm spending way too much time on working for clients and then working for to stay relevant in The Sims 4 community.
But I'm not really taking care of myself.
Like meaning like I'm not taking breaks from like working with clients and working with, you know, pushing out content.
Because, you know, content is time consuming, too.
Like you can spend four or five hours working on just one video, but it doesn't stop there.
You know, it's like once you're done with that video, now you got to go and do the same thing.
The same day, probably just to stay current relevant.
So yeah, burnout is pretty crazy.
I mean, I've been in it for like two and a half years.
And so sometimes you will burn out if you're not careful.
And sometimes that burnout can be because you've got other things in your life that you have to deal with, too.
So that doesn't help as a content creator.
And if you don't have a solid support group, then it's going to be even worse.
Fortunately, I have a great support group.
So all it just takes is for me to be vocal around my support group.
And I'm a little bit better.
But short to be long story short.
Um, yeah, yeah.
Burnouts real folks.
Burnout is real.
Take care of yourself.
And honestly, just enjoy the journey.
Like when you hit your first million, like, like just embrace it.
Enjoy it because it's a fun feeling at first when you first hit that one million.
It's like, I wish I could relive the moments when I hit my first million.
Yeah, just sitting there and watching it go up.
Just why you like it.
It's crazy.
Um, so yeah.
But you get over the burnout and then you're back to it 100% and it's fun again.
Yeah.
So well, thank you everybody for sharing.
I just wanted to ask about burnout because it's a question I get all the time is what do you do when you have burnout?
And I would always say what's burnout?
I've never had it.
And then I had it really bad in January to the point that I considered what the fuck am I even doing?
Like I'm just, I'm so tired.
I am not sleeping.
I had a really shitty job.
I had a really toxic job that took a lot out of me.
I literally changed the person who I was.
I wouldn't even recognize myself in the mirror at the end.
I would like, I was, it was fight or flight every day for me and I fought every day.
It was absolutely terrible.
I'm back into planning a wedding that's extremely stressful.
I didn't have a really high paying job.
My vendors don't care.
They want money and they're like, well, I have rent due and they're like, we don't care.
Like you need to start paying us.
And it was just kind of like, like I do make money from this podcast, which is great.
But like I hadn't made a little bit in a little while because I had a sponsor.
So I was just like, oh my God, I don't like, I'm just like, I was banging my head against the fucking wall.
And then I had mom K podcast friends.
We did a podcast together about what it's like being burnt out.
And at that time I was burnt out.
I was cause I, I love by listeners.
I love you guys.
I love you guys so much.
And I love you guys come up with ideas.
But sometimes I get really stressed when you're like, well, why is my podcast being filmed three months from now?
And then once it's filmed, why is it coming up six months from now?
Why is it a nine month waiting period?
You guys like my content.
I give you podcasts every week.
I it's a wait, it's a waiting period.
I'm doing five podcasts this weekend as Nard said, support my fiance is currently in the other room,
dead as a mouse because he doesn't want to make one sound.
And when I podcast weekends, he leaves.
Like I, he literally, he feels the need to not be here because he doesn't want to make a noise because he knows he can't.
That's an extremely supportive partner who's supported me in every aspect.
And I couldn't do this without him.
But at the same time, burnout is real.
And I can tell you my first season of podcast, I can't say anything about TikTok.
I don't think I've had a TikTok go past 99 views.
Like I'm going to be really honest with you.
But like at the end of my first season, I was like number five, number six in Australia for video game podcast.
I was fucking off.
I have no idea how that happened.
Still to this day, I have no idea how that happened and then it stopped.
Because other podcasts come out, whatever, and then the views and listens who dropped.
And I was like, whoa, why?
And then they picked back up throughout the season because I had to, you know, mark it in other ways.
But it was like all these free listens.
And then I used to gauge my happiness on listens.
And as I'm sure as we all have gaged our happiness on views, even at the beginning, because you'd be like, oh my God, like, I gotta maybe taste like such a good day.
And sometimes I still catch myself.
If I have a day where it's in the thousands of listens, I'll be like, oh, this is a great day.
And then the next day I'll have one.
So I would ask me to like, what's your range of listens?
It's like zero into the thousands.
I can't tell you.
I cannot tell you.
Like yesterday, I had no, I had no one listen to this podcast.
But this morning I've already had about 300, which is pretty good for around this time.
Right?
But you kind of like, why?
Why?
So anyways, thank you for sharing.
I just like to debunk burnout because everyone looks at us.
They're like, you guys can't get burnout because you guys are living your dream, getting million dollar listen views, million views.
And you're like, I live in, you guys are like, must be so happy.
Well, it's because it's an extension of ourselves.
Yeah.
We put out and it's hard to not take something like no views personally.
Like I do.
Yeah.
I try not to take these things personally, but like, you know, last year or two, you remember, Stacey, I came back from your podcast.
I took a seven month break because of, I was doing like Twitch, Instagram, everything except for TikTok.
And the burnout just hit me and I was taking everything so personally that I got really depressed and I just needed time off to find myself again.
Remember who I was because I wasn't living my life. I was living my life to post. I'd get up.
What's my post? What's this?
And I mean, this was during pandemic a little bit after.
So I'm inside all day focused on my computer.
I work until I go to sleep.
And then I'm like, what is my life?
What am I doing?
And then my posts wouldn't do well.
I just, you have to remember to almost separate yourself, even though it is still an extension of you, your creativity, your like vision and to see people not really
react the way you think it hurts. Like, you don't mean to have it hurt.
Tell yourself it won't, but yeah, it's hard not to get a little upset about it.
Right. As someone in the storyteller community on Instagram, you get zero of anything.
Instagram does not help you. If anything, they hinder you because you have a heavy post and your stuff is not seen.
And you just fucking bang your head.
As Nart saying, like five, six hours, that's the same for any storytellers, but five, six hours.
And you get no love, like absolutely no love.
And you're like, well, why do I do this?
And you, and you're like, but I love doing this.
I do it for me.
And you're like, are you doing it for yourself?
Are you doing it for your readers?
You just, it's like, literally, you're insane.
Like you're literally just having these long conversations with yourself.
And why I created this so we can, you know, we can chat.
But now, if anyone else has any other, anything to add, I have another question, which comes down to the million dollar bag question.
As that way came early.
Clearly I have money on the brain this morning.
I mean, who doesn't on a Saturday morning?
You already know.
Oh, yes.
I mean, Nart MVP, it's like seven 30 in the morning, but he came at like six AM.
At six AM, I was good.
Yes.
Six o two, six o two.
I was a little late.
I was very late.
Yeah.
But I made it.
I was here.
Yeah. Six AM this morning, I was like, oh, I still have like two hours to see you.
To be fair, I didn't go to bed till like one because we went out last night for St. Pat's.
And then I found this like, like we started getting into documentaries.
Like we got to watch the Pornhub documentary on Netflix.
We've been wanting to watch it too.
It was really interesting.
It's so good.
It's extreme.
I did not realize it was like based in Montreal.
Like we were like, because we're like, we're like, we're like, we're pretty sure it's Canada.
Like I'm pretty sure it's Toronto.
And it's just Montreal.
And I'm like, yeah, it's Montreal.
Have you started it yet?
So you said you've been watching it?
Yeah.
Yeah, we watched.
Okay.
Did they talk about where that little tune thing came from?
Like the little intro song?
They talked about the intro something.
Now that I go to that website.
No, no, nerds never been there.
Yeah.
I don't even know what that is.
Yeah.
He only uses looking whims.
It's fine.
Pretty much.
The whims is by Pornhub.
Yeah.
No, they showed them playing it, but they didn't say where it came from.
Oh, okay.
Do you know where it came from?
No, that's what I'm asking.
Oh, fuck.
I thought you were watching.
I thought you were baiting me to be like, well, I made it with the company I worked for.
I was like, that's how you were baiting me.
It's all me.
Yeah.
No, I was thinking you knew since you were watching the documentary.
They just talk about it being like how that like everybody knew the jingle and like, and
they literally go down to they show multiple different sources of kids doing it and stuff.
But it's definitely I'm at the part where it's kind of dark now where it's like anybody can
put content on there, including content that should not be on there.
So yeah, fun beginning.
Jark middle dark.
To be fair, I watched 30 minutes of it with my eyes open and then I watched 30 minutes of it listening.
Oh, wow, is that graphic?
They like to show image stuff.
No, no, no, I was asleep.
I was like, I need to watch this.
I was like 30 minutes of like, I've got this.
And then by like, what I am, I had the blanket over.
I was like, okay, I thought you were thinking, oh, okay.
I thought you were too much that you had to close your eyes during.
No, no, I was listening with my eyes closed is code for in this house.
I passed the fuck out.
Anyway, so million dollar question.
So I put this out as a question.
What any question anyone want to ask?
It was unanimous.
Everyone's like, so what is the money roll in?
It doesn't.
Yeah.
Yeah, I think it varies.
It doesn't.
Once you hit like 10,000 followers, you're able to start making pennies.
You can make three cents a day.
I think right now, this month so far, I've made like five, six, seven dollars.
I do reels and make some money there.
And I make more money on Instagram reels, but I get more views on TikTok.
I made a whole $2 and 13 cents yesterday.
Don't spend all my money.
I know.
That could get you a coffee and a timbit.
My coffee from dunks is five forty nine.
You can pay for half.
What the fuck do you get your coffees?
It's like I get a lot of espresso shots.
I have to be at work at six a.m.
That's fair.
I feel like it just varies because I'm also getting I know I don't know if you guys
heard of TikTok posts, but apparently they'll select I don't know if it's random,
but they'll select a video and put ads on it and you will get money.
So one I think one month I made like seventy dollars just from a TikTok post.
Yeah.
In the month of January, I think I made that was a decent month.
Actually, I made one hundred and twenty one dollars and sixty five cent.
My biggest day that month was let's see.
Wow.
Nineteen dollars and seventy eight cent.
And that was on New Year's Day.
Oh, wow.
One day.
Yeah.
And one day.
And then in February, it hasn't calculated how much I made yet.
But my biggest day in February was thirteen dollars and thirty seven cents.
And currently in March, my biggest day was on the fifteenth, I think, thirteen dollars and thirty seven cents.
Yeah.
But I've also been kind of getting a little bit more views than usual.
So I guess that helped in these last few months, but I've never gotten anything over like more than two hundred dollars a month.
And my total so far, not including TikTok posts, has been I've earned twelve hundred one thousand two hundred twenty three dollars seventy six cents.
OK, that's about where I am to.
Yeah.
So it varies.
It just depends on what the ass sense is and what how your views are doing that that day or month or whatever.
So the more the stories is, don't quit your day job kids.
Yeah, especially if you're not already like, I mean, hitting a million, you got to literally hit a million views per video.
And there are people out there like celebrities and like legit TikTok influencers who actually started at the day at day one of of TikTok.
And I'm pretty sure they're probably making some good money because it wasn't as saturated.
The pot was very big for only a small amount of people.
But now that a lot of people are now in that pot of TikTok funds, I think it's just harder to to put, you know, to share it.
So, but I mean, I'll take my little my little Starbucks money, my little Krispy Kreme, you know, put some of this money towards the wedding venue deposit, you know.
So it's all good.
Yeah.
And I mean, there are definitely like you can get sponsors to and that's where you're going to see the most money.
You're going to see the most money, but you also have to be willing to put yourself out there and reach out to hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of companies
to get one person to be like, oh, yeah, we would love to pay you to do that.
And that's just not a thing that I care enough to do.
I've had people reach out to me and I've taken sponsorships, but I just if they fall into my lap, they fall into my lap.
And if they don't, they don't.
Yeah.
I couldn't agree. I got my first sponsorship back at Christmas time, which significantly helped because I had to have surgery and I was off work for multiple weeks,
unpaid.
So I work, old work decided to not pay me.
So I had to wait eight weeks to get my EI sick pay.
So I got I got a couple hundred bucks, but it's once it's done, it's like once that's done, it's done.
It's a one time payout, which is really nice, but it's not like a I don't partner with them again until they want to send me something or they want me to talk about
something.
But like to get this, I had to I had to show them my Instagram insights.
I had to share my podcast insights with them.
I had to share every basically everything.
And then they were like, yes or no.
And then they kind of kind of go from there.
But it's not like, I don't know, it's Louis Vuitton's not caught up, Stas even like, you know, we want you to start with plugging our product.
Yeah.
How is the pro?
Oh, go ahead.
No, go ahead.
Go ahead.
I was going to say, like, how is the what's the pressure like, no one like, okay, I have a sponsor now.
Like, are you worried about your performance now?
Like, that's my my issue is I'm scared that if I get if I get a sponsor, even though I'm there paying me, what if the tick tock just decided, yep, this is the day I'm a home but your video.
They do because you have to make you have to mark that it that it's a sponsor.
And it will purposely I score right by those.
Yeah.
If I see something sponsored, I'm like, nope, I'm not watching that.
Yeah.
Oh, I'm the same way I can actually.
Okay, so I still have my shit here because I don't clean up my desk.
I was part of the 12 days of cold eight cold eight for kids.
I got kids shit because I fucking I with mom because like mom's follow my account because that's the age graphic.
So I got like a bunch of kid toys and stuff that I was plugging because I was so confused.
I was like, I swear I am not a role model for children, but it was but it was for moms to buy for their for their kids.
Yeah.
And I was like because it was like because I had like all the hashtags I had to use was like mom life,
Christmas gift lists for mom.
Like it was like what the fuck is this?
Like this is not me at all.
No, no, it's your audience though.
But it's the audience because it's because it's your insights because it's women from 25 to 40 is that's that's who listens to this podcast.
That's who follows me on Instagram.
And it was cool again, but I'm just like.
Yeah.
I got one sponsored post like years ago, like two years ago on Instagram.
And it was a game I've never played and they didn't send me a free copy or anything.
They just sent me like footage and I had to edit it together and it felt so like disingenuous.
I don't know how I explain it like I felt I'm like I don't ever want to do that again.
And if I ever do a sponsored post the future, I hope it's something that I'm passionate about have used before and actually like it.
And I'm like, I just feel like I'm putting this out there and I felt like I'm selling myself out in a weird way.
Even though it wasn't everyone's like congratulations.
It still didn't it felt wrong.
I don't know how to explain that.
Yeah.
I won't take a sponsorship if I can't be myself.
So if I can't swear and be ridiculous and make fun of whatever it is that I'm doing, I won't take it.
And if I don't like the product, I will not.
I don't care how much money you're going to pay me.
I'm not doing it.
Dude, I got you.
I keep getting coffee.
This one coffee company in New York keeps reaching out to me.
I want coffee.
Send them to me.
Why?
The next time you're in a show, I'll fucking send them your way because they're like, we really like your podcast.
We really like what you stand for.
Can you like, but I don't drink coffee.
I actively talk about how much I don't drink coffee.
So you clearly don't listen to my content.
I don't drink coffee, but I drink this.
Yeah.
Like I, unless it's literally water or whiskey, like those are the two things I drink.
So you can put coffee and whiskey.
That's right.
Yeah.
But I really don't.
If I had to go, I couldn't fake it.
You know what we could do is I could put on a blonde wig.
And for the part where you have the coffee, I will do it.
And you can just slice my face over yours and no one will know.
They'll have no idea.
No one will know.
Yeah.
Be big.
Yeah.
Just be a little extra bubbly.
They say, hi, I'm Stati.
Look at me drinking coffee.
I love coffee so much.
I love coffee.
Look at my giant butt.
But I get it.
Like I am like, even if it's a good payout, I can't sit there.
It's because he's had to sell my soul out.
I'm just waiting for Adobe at this point being like Adobe.
Adobe would be dope.
Oh, like please help me pay for this fucking,
but I pay for every month to have everything.
Please.
I'll do that.
Or anything, Sailor Moon.
I'm hoping to one day get like some Sailor Moon shit or some Batman
because I just, I applied for one yesterday for the new Batman movie coming out.
And I was like, cool, send me some stuff and I'll absolutely talk about it
because I'm a huge fucking nerd.
That's the stuff I want to get.
Don't get me your green matcha coffee.
Don't get me.
I don't know.
I got bracelets made from seashells.
Wow.
Cause I'm like.
Look at you.
Wow.
Yeah.
So I, so you saying brands just reach out to you because I'm, I'm new, like, I'm not going to say new,
but I don't get a lot of like brand.
So are you guys just searching for or are you, or people hitting you guys up?
So people will email me, but it'll be like the most random though.
Like they're not even looking at my content.
So it's like not genuine.
With RSS, I have enough listens that every
day or every month that I kind of, they push out to their sponsors that they, they'll be like,
so I'm part of, I think it's called pod, pod sponsors or podcaster sponsors.
And I've registered with them.
I meet a lot of their requirements.
They'll send me stuff.
I have the ability to reject, but I think after 10 rejections, I'm no longer part of it.
That's how I got the cold gate day of Christmas with butterly.
I just actually happened to work out that they're also my home.
They're also where I live, where the head offices, 10 minutes away.
So when I signed my contract, I actually went in in person.
Oh, cool.
I was like, cool.
Yeah.
So that was, that was another main reason they picked me because we're in the same city.
So postage is not fucking hard and it's a lot of Canadian products.
Put me up with some cold gate, girl.
Yo, do you want my KT1?
Let me get that mint.
I want some mint.
Well, you know what?
I'll give you this cake.
I'll give you the kids one.
And you know what?
I think you're so smart.
You can take the toothbrush, the Barbies.
You haven't opened it yet?
I don't know.
Why do you not use that every day?
No, no, I did.
I did.
I had to open it for the photo.
But it's this 40 bucks, man.
Does it play?
What song does it play?
Yeah.
It doesn't play a song, but it is a lot of work.
What do you mean it doesn't play a song?
Hold on.
I have two brushes that play music.
Yeah.
For two minutes.
So the kids know how long to brush.
OK.
I knew one of those.
Right?
No.
That's what's up.
They need to make adult versions.
I know.
I didn't know they did that now.
I think this was just electric.
It's just, it literally just vibrates.
Well, Colby, you're missing out on an opportunity
playing some Barbie music on there.
Well, because I had the Justin Bieber one when I, like,
I used to buy that chip for, yeah,
because they would literally play you a song.
Yeah.
And you have to listen to it.
That's crazy.
Yeah.
I did not know that stuff existed.
OK.
Yeah.
They need to do that for a faucet.
So when you can, I know how long to wash my hands for it,
too.
Oh, yeah.
You want to play some music, you know, stops?
Instead of, like, me singing Happy Birthday,
finally, everyone knew the Happy Birthday song.
I know I was singing Happy Birthday with the Panini.
As I'm no longer calling it the Panini.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
At work, we had a list in the bathroom,
like, stapled to the mirror that had all the songs
that you could sing to wash your hands for two minutes.
And I was like, oh, OK.
Like, so I just did a different song from the list
every single time.
Oh, that's cool.
The way to be creative with it.
Yeah.
That's what's up.
But, sorry, to answer your question,
because I've reached so much followers and listens for RSS,
I have the opportunity for sponsors to come out to me.
Oh, yeah.
I have never reached out to anybody to be honest with you.
I don't know who would want to.
This is a very niche podcast.
True.
Yeah.
Unless it's Sims-related, which we all know that DaddyAA will
never sponsor me because I bash them all the time.
Do they sponsor many people?
I just did a whole wave of sponsorships.
I feel like they don't.
Because they have the whole creators program.
They do.
Yeah.
And they don't need to sponsor those people.
They just give them stuff.
Yeah, exactly.
And I got rejected, not once.
Twice.
Oh, man.
Mine is pending.
I'm still waiting for my rejection.
Mine's been pending for like a year and a half.
What's this brand called?
It's called what?
What's that brand called?
EA Creator.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
I'm still pending.
Yeah, still pending, too.
Yeah.
I'm an American, so I'm like, I'm probably the lowest.
I mean, I get it.
If I'm losing out to people in other countries to make sure
they have their say, I'm like, I'll find that.
Yeah.
It's a Canadian white girl.
I buy a couple of barrels.
Yeah.
But that's how you have to make money is other ways of doing stuff.
And it takes a lot of time.
This is not just like you were like, I'm going to start a podcast.
I'm going to get a sponsor.
This takes years.
108 episodes in.
So anyway, does anyone else have anything to add before we move on
to the next question?
Perfect.
None of us get paid.
No.
Yeah, we're not making a lot of money.
OK.
But again, to debunk it, because everyone's like, so I started to think you got a podcast.
It's shut up.
I'm like, yeah, but my landlord still wants my rent every month.
Yeah.
Doesn't give him a place.
He don't give off off.
But the cool thing is, though, is that you're not going to get a sponsor.
He don't give off off, but the cool thing is, though, is we at least get a little bit
of change just to post on a platform that maybe is a large percentage of people that
are not able to make money.
So at least you can say that, which is kind of cool.
My friends are like, oh my god, YouTube pays you and TikTok pays you.
Just hearing them get a little excited about it is kind of cool, I guess.
You know, you can kind of go, oh yeah, well, at least I get a little bit of change.
Because I mean, we're all doing this as hobbies and maybe trying to pursue it as a dream or
as a job too.
But then today, it's still kind of cool that we are getting a little bit of change.
I'd be doing this for free.
Yeah.
And you get free product if you're reaching out to brands and maybe the brands are paying
you or maybe they are just doing like a give you free product for a post.
That's also kind of cool too.
You're utilizing your following for that too.
No.
Yeah.
I didn't do mouse really bad.
So reaching out to people.
Everyone wants to give me just a whole new computer.
I don't make as many videos as you would like.
I can't hit me up.
I need a desk.
Yes.
I'm on this.
Look at the desk of a...
I know, right?
That's a sturdy table.
Oh my gosh.
Yes, I agree.
Sponsors, I have a ghost today.
Come hit up everybody on here.
Links are going to be below to go check out these guys.
Let's get some sponsors around the table.
And then we can like, I don't know, as I said, we could do a Zoom dinner, but that would
make sense because we're in a different country and that would be...
I guess that would be like...
Zoom.
We could do a Zoom brunch or something.
Yeah, Zoom brunch.
I love it.
Anyways, onto the next question, which is something that me, hip-hop Friday, talked a lot about
last week, is trolls.
I feel like being on TikTok, you have to deal with trolls.
What has your experience been and how have you told them to fuck off?
They're my favorite.
I love them.
I love them so much.
Oh my God, give me more.
There is nothing in this world that I love more than mean, shitty comments from mean,
shitty people.
They're great.
10 out of 10.
I don't mind them as long as they don't attack my personal life, as long as they don't say
anything.
I'd be ordinary where I have to legit block them because it's maybe more on a hate comment
versus...
I don't really get that much hate.
I did get a couple...
I didn't know George Floyd was still alive kind of comments.
Usually I just remove those or whatever.
Then I just get comments like, you look like blah, blah, blah.
I don't take those as offensive.
I probably do literally look like somebody from TV that they watch and I get that all
the time.
I'm like, okay.
Then I go Google them and I'm like, I look nothing like them.
Yeah, like Renee, I embrace them.
I comment back and sometimes if it's my fault, they're bashing me because of something I
said, then I'll own up to it.
I'll be like, oh yeah, you're right.
Then I'll say something funny about it or whatever.
I've been the best thing to reply to is kind of sarcastic joke.
Not being offended because that's just adding the...
That's what they kind of want.
It's kind of funny if I see something that...
So far I haven't got anything like that hate, but more of just like, you did this wrong
or this is...
And it's kind of funny.
Every time I see it, I remember those comments more and I'm trying to think, what's a fun
witty reply to this?
Yeah.
So I don't feel bad when I get them.
Just like, oh, what can I say?
I've made merch out of my shitty comments.
See, that's dope.
That's so cool.
They're making money off your hate comments.
See?
Yeah.
See?
Like thanks for the material.
Yeah, love it.
Perfect.
I did have...
Go ahead.
I was gonna say, I did have to block somebody on TikTok only because I felt like they were
trolling a little...
I think I felt like their trolling was getting a little personal, so I had to kind of block
them and then they added another account and I had to block them again.
I'm thinking it was them because I think it was just more like...
I don't know, I just had to just be a little bit careful because they were threatening it
like the...
What do you call it?
D...
Dinox or something like that?
Oh, doxing.
Yeah.
Doxing.
Yeah.
So...
What's the time and the energy to do that?
To set...
The thing about hate comments, because obviously there's the trolls and the people who...
You're so fat.
You're so ugly.
Like, thank you.
I'm aware of what I look like.
I know.
I have a mirror.
So those ones are fun and I love those and keep them coming because I can respond to
them.
But then there's the people who genuinely just have this hate that they feel like they
need to like, yeah, what do you do all day that you think it's okay to go online and
have this weird parasocial relationship?
Like, I don't know you.
You see me in my videos every day and I know you feel like you know me, but you don't at
the end of the day.
Yeah.
And we're not friends.
I'm sorry.
But like, they have this like weird parasocial relationship with you and the second you don't
respond to them right away or like their comment, like, it's almost like you've personally
slighted them.
It's very strange and I don't understand how people have the energy for that.
I always assume that young or like just don't have the social skills yet.
I mean, no offense, but I just kind of find them dumb.
Yeah.
I mean, no, aw, but I mean, some of them are like harsh.
Like I haven't gotten any harsh comments, but if that were the case, I would just block
them.
Like I don't even want other people to see stuff like that.
That's just my channel.
Like, yeah.
Yeah.
Now, I think it hurts the most because we're all human is when you are at your burnout
stage and you're already feeling a little low and like we were talking earlier.
Cause I mean, I failed to mention that I'm human too.
And some days I will overlook the idea of I'm doing this for fun.
It still hurts.
You know, I want to mention that again on burnout.
I there have been days where I was down about my content because it wasn't performing well.
And when it's not performing well, you might get a comment here and there saying that,
Oh yeah, you're caught.
You're maybe they might think your video kind of sucks or something.
Then you then it kind of hits you a little bit more, you know, those comments when they
were hurt more, when you're already feeling down about your content.
And that's happened maybe once because I was kind of already feeling burnt out and feeling
a little bit low in my content.
And that's when it was, Oh yeah, your content sucks.
You're boring, blah, blah, blah.
And that's when it was like, Oh damn.
I think she's right.
But even though it's not true, but it's all this is how I'm feeling.
Thanks for validating.
Right.
So that hurts.
That would hit you sometimes.
Especially when you're first starting out making content, that's really where you figure
out if content creation is for you or content is not for you because you are going to get
shitty comments.
You gotta get them right away.
Like some of the first comments you're going to get are going to be really, really cruel,
not even just meet cruel.
And that's the point where you need to look at this and go, can I handle this every single
day because they don't stop.
And they continue.
And the larger you get, the more opportunities it will become because now your audience,
now your content is getting pushed out to a larger audience outside of your audience.
So now they're like, why is this even a, why is this even showing up on my for you page?
And then they're going to not are going to react to it.
So which is a good thing because now that means that you're, you're reaching to an even
larger audience, but are you ready for it?
Yeah.
Everybody's like, Oh my God, I want 100,000 followers.
I want 200,000 followers, but do you though?
Are you really ready for this?
Yeah.
But once you get there and you're comfortable with it, um, yeah, embrace it.
Just embrace the journey.
And those hate comments, make those t-shirts.
That's where you're getting the million dollars is you make t-shirts out of hate comments.
That's really, you make a million dollars.
I'm wearing so much from y'all.
Yeah.
Make shitty content.
Make shitty content, make shitty t-shirts with shitty comments on them.
It's just amazing.
Your content's amazing.
I'm just saying, just take advantage of, you know, creating content on the, with your
phone.
Your content's amazing.
Thank you.
Appreciate that.
Here's this.
All of us are all amazing.
That's why we're here.
Right?
Well, I got a couple more questions and then I'm going to wrap up because it's podcast
is going for almost two hours.
I mean, why not?
Okay.
So, oh my God, I was like, where, where am I?
Okay.
We kind of talked about this one already, but what makes TikTok different from everything
else besides you get more views there?
Is there anything else that you've really noticed that TikTok is different from the rest
of every other type of social media?
I mean, it's not a platform you're catching up with your friends on.
Yeah.
It's not specifically for people creating content.
And I think it's more acceptable to follow trends too.
But you got to still be careful because you still have to credit.
I feel like you, I feel like there's a lack of credibility.
Like if you do something that's inspired, at least try to say, oh, this was inspired
by whatever.
But if it's like a well-known trend, obviously, I mean, you don't know where that trend came
from.
So, but you just got to be mindful.
Is this a trend or is this something that one specific person created?
And I thought it was a trend.
So, I mean, just obviously have to do your homework there.
But, but I think trends are definitely acceptable more on TikTok than the other platforms.
I mean, every platform has its trends, but I feel like you see more trends on TikTok,
in my opinion.
Yeah.
Um, this is, I have to ask this, this is just kind of more of, so I have a family member
and they are a TikTok influencer and that just makes my skin crawl saying those words
out loud because they will take any sponsorship deal and they make really shitty content,
in my personal opinion, because they're, they're out there trying to get reaction, they're
reaction based.
How does it feel to also be in the same bat with kind of like everybody?
I also kind of like the same as YouTube because like there's, there's like fun YouTube and
then there's shitty YouTube.
So like, what's it feel that like, if you're like someone called you a TikTok influencer,
would that be like a sense of pride?
Or would you kind of be like, oh, am I kind of like, are you then grouped in with the
maybe not so good TikTok influencers?
I don't want the, so the thing about the TikTok algorithm is because a lot of people say this,
they're like, okay, well, the only thing that I see on my TikTok is girls half naked dancing
in the street.
Well, that says a lot about you because that's what your algorithm is showing you.
And if your algorithm is showing you things like that, I don't really want those people
as my audience anyway.
They're not for me.
I mean, I've had people, my coworkers all know that I do TikTok and they think it's
fucking hilarious that I'm a TikTok influencer and like I definitely say it and I'm milk.
I'm like, I'm a TikTok influencer, but like I'm very sarcastic about it.
It wouldn't offend me because I am.
I am.
That's, yeah, it's a thing that I do.
I can't deny that.
Yeah.
I have to get, I have to be, I think for me, I have to be more comfortable around people
in person when they say, oh yeah, you create TikTok videos.
I don't talk about it a lot in person, in public.
So when like my family members or when my friends say to other people when I'm there,
like, oh yeah, he produces like videos for TikTok and YouTube.
He's like a TikTok celebrity.
I just feel weird about it.
I guess I just don't like talking about myself, I guess, but it's just, I don't know.
It's just weird.
So when people say that, I'm like, oh, okay.
I don't get offended at all, but it's just when I'm out in public and I have to talk
a little bit about that.
I do it.
I do.
Even though I've been doing it for so long, well, not so long, but for two years, it's
just different because not a lot of people kind of know that I do it kind of.
I mean, I guess they know, but they don't really know exactly like, like my mom really
doesn't understand like, oh wow, he has like 150,000 followers on TikTok.
I don't think that's kind of, I don't think she grasped that concept yet.
Yeah.
Like, well, for example, this is super random.
I went to a comedy show, like a small comedy show with my in-laws.
And of course we were sitting in the front row and they pointed to me and I do graphic
design also and some other stuff, but like they asked, what do you do?
And I said, I do social media content creation, that stuff.
And then later on, they made a joke that I was an only fans person.
If you do only fans, it's totally fine, but like I'm, I'm vague because I don't know how
to explain it.
Like similar to NAR, I'm like, I don't like to talk about that.
Like I've been meeting a lot of new people moving and they asked what I do.
I'm kind of vague.
I'm like, I do social media because I also do like social media content create, but like
this is what I spend a lot of time on too.
And I don't know how to talk about it because I mean, I think they have a idea in their
mind of, oh, you do social media that probably ends here on the beach with your bikini on.
And that's fine.
You want to do that.
This is not me.
I then I explained, no, it's for a video game.
They're like, oh, video games.
I'm like, one video game.
Yeah, one video game.
Not to explain to people.
And I'm just like, I kind of just shut it off.
My husband likes to say, oh, she's a video game influencer.
I'm like, don't call me that.
Like maybe call me like a content creator.
I just don't know what it, I should call it.
Like I'm kind of in the middle.
Like I don't have a ton of, a ton of followers yet, hopefully.
But I also am not just starting out.
So I'm somewhere in this like weird, and I don't want to call myself an influencer.
And then people being like, oh, well, you only have this many followers.
And, you know, it's a weird place to be.
I could not agree more because like it's because of people like I, I treat, I treat
go.
I'm actually starting to get more hungover as this podcast is going on.
I'm getting more awake.
You should start drinking coffee.
Yeah, drink some Cassee.
Oh my God, there you go.
Maybe I do do that sponsorship after all.
But anyway, I treat Sims as like church and state.
I, when I'm simzing, I'm simzing.
And when I like, as a lot of people, Stossi is not my real name.
My name is Jen.
Jen is her own thing.
Stossi is her own thing.
I treat them as Hannah Montana and Miley Cyrus.
They are fucking two different people.
So people will be like, oh, like I know, like, like Jason will say like, oh, like, like
Jeni's, they got really good with her podcast and stuff like, oh, she's like, she has a
podcast like anybody can have podcast.
You're fucking right.
Anybody can have a podcast.
I would enjoy having a podcast.
Literally anybody, you have a mic.
Fuck you, dude.
You have your phone.
Yes.
I have a phone.
Where it's awesome.
But it comes, there's a lot more that goes with it.
It's continuously scheduling and being able to write content that people like and getting
listeners and all that, all that good stuff.
But I would rather say that I'm an author because I create a graphic novel online.
I would go author and podcast it before I would go to content creator.
I did a podcast two years ago and someone called me a content creator and I was like,
I'm not a content creator.
What the fuck are you talking about?
I make a podcast and I'm like, well, that's content.
That's content.
That's content, right?
It didn't, it didn't even clue in and I was like, I'm not a content creator.
I don't, because in my mind at the time, I thought they were talking about CC like
literally custom content.
Content creator.
Yeah.
So I was like, custom content and I was like, I don't do that.
I interview people and I think I'm a standup comedian when I do these things.
So it was just kind of more of like, I'm like, I'm Jen and I do social media and I leave
it there.
But I've got it.
People are like, Oh, so like, have you ever considered doing it?
Only fans?
And my answer is yes, because I have to adjust.
Byron had, oh, that's my husband named, he had an idea where I do only fans, but I do
only Sims content.
Yeah.
You can literally do any content.
Yeah, you can.
I'm scared of being like, I have an only fans and then people getting an idea of what I
do.
And again, like I said before, if you want to do that, that's fine.
Yes.
But I also like, I'm 30 and I just don't want to do that.
I go, I get through my school, see it.
I don't know.
See, I got you.
For me, I'm like, yo, give me that bag.
If I, if I have to sell feet photos, because apparently those are it.
Cause like I would sell feet photos so fucking fast.
No, I'm not above probably like if someone wants to offer me and Twitch, I did Twitch
for a short period of time.
The amount of feet messages I got, I'm like, oh my gosh.
What?
On camera, they're like, I have a hundred thousand dollars in my PayPal.
Show me.
Send it to the PayPal and I will show you my feet.
Yeah, I will give a good foot, but I'll give a good hand.
I'm five foot tall.
I'm not skinny.
Who the fuck besides my fiance, who else finds this like who would want to pay for this?
Nobody.
But oh, okay.
I have a hundred thousand dollars in my PayPal.
From all that TikTok money we're making.
Oh my goodness.
Oh my God.
Oh, I needed that laugh.
Okay.
Well, as we've progressed from sponsorships to Port Hub to selling feet on a feet photo.
That's how you're going to make the money.
Yes.
Is your goddamn clothes off.
Don't TikTok videos kids.
This is a good toe photo.
That's how you're going to buy the house.
Yes.
It's not a, it's not anything on TikTok.
Well, anyways, final question.
Cause like I got to wrap this up cause I think this interview has gotten some weird places.
What advice would you give to anybody wanting to start off?
I know we've talked about this on both your podcast, but this is just kind of repeating
it any literally any advice and anybody can go ahead.
Be prepared mentally for the toll that TikTok can take on you, whether it be like we said
earlier, the burnout, whether it be the trolls, whether it be people just genuinely being
meet, cause I put trolls and mean people into like two separate categories.
Things are going to happen that are going to make you not want to create the content
anymore.
It could be low views.
It could be a number of things.
And you need to make sure that you are at the end of the day enjoying what you're doing
or why are you doing it?
I could not agree more.
Nard, how about you?
Renee took everything I was going to say.
I just want to add to what she's saying by just saying that, uh, yeah, just start.
A lot of people, I think the hardest thing really is just, you know, the concept might
be easy for you, but just starting.
A lot of people want to create content and trying to figure out how to start.
But if once you start, I think you're already just in the path or the direction of being
the content creator.
So just starting, um, embracing the journey.
Like when you hit, when you hit your milestones, just like sit back and relaxed and definitely
take care of your mental state, uh, in the process of it.
And, uh, yeah, just, just enjoy the journey because a lot of times we're still trying
to, we're focusing on the content creating the growth, but we're not actually sitting
in the moment of like, wow, like let me sit back for a second and at least enjoy the fact
that a video just got hit, just hit a million.
Let me do a watch party with my close ones cause it's a big deal.
You know, it's like, that's kind of cool.
You know, like just take advantage of those milestones because in that way, when you're,
when you're hitting those thousand views or 50, 50 views, you could just be like, oh,
okay.
I remember when I did, it was doing pretty good.
And I had those moments where I celebrated, you know, stuff like that.
That makes sense.
But, but, um, but yeah, just start embrace the journey.
Take care of your mental state while, while you're doing it.
I love that.
And Narba, before we end off, I really love that you partnered with the, on TikTok, Twitter,
Twitter.
Thank you.
Yeah, we both, that was cool.
I liked your content.
I was so nervous cause the mom cave is like, yeah, so like the Sunday before she's like,
you're up and I'm like, what?
I thought I'd have weeks.
I literally made everything that Sunday and I like literally pushed it out and I was just
wanting to be as honest as possible because that's the health is extremely important and
I don't think it's talked about enough.
So I do really do appreciate that you also partnered with on Twitter as well.
I thought that was very cool.
And the fact that you were right after me, I was like, because we just, it was literally
the Sunday after our podcast.
Mom cave message.
I was like, oh, yeah.
So that was cool.
That was a good experience because yeah, like you said, um, I think like as creators, we,
we don't have the platform with our audience to, to share like what really goes behind
the scenes.
Um, because they just think it's all peaches and cream, you know, oh yeah, they get to
wake up and create content and partner with brands and stuff like that, but they don't
really see that we were human too.
And we definitely take things to heart or we work a lot and we can't sit back and enjoy
it.
So, um, but yeah, that's why I like doing stuff like that too.
Being able to, you know, make sure everybody's taking care of their mental state.
I could not agree more.
Uh, last but not least cookie.
I guess since you guys said so many great things, I've had something random.
Uh, when I was starting on Tik Tok, I was kind of looking at a ton of other people,
like what's successful.
And I kept trying.
It didn't really work.
And then I thought of an idea like, let me do voiceover this part and I've never seen
it.
I'm like, this is probably not going to do well.
I doubted myself a lot.
So don't really doubt yourself if you have an idea, just sort of do it.
If it doesn't do well, the worst you can get is not as many of the uses you hope for.
So just try things, see what happens and don't be afraid to fail a little.
Yeah.
It's not really going to affect overall like end goal.
Yeah.
I think that's what I'll advise.
Please go take everybody's advice.
If I have a ship, I literally have like a hundred people on Tik Tok.
I have no leg to stand on.
It's like I have to blow up.
Because I haven't posted anything since like October.
Well, you need to start posting things.
Just keep posting.
Yeah.
Okay.
I'll just point and storyteller podcast.
Everything else, I'll throw Tik Tok in there and then we'll go back to burnout and then
I'll just, you know, I'll just openly cry on Tik Tok.
I mean, blonde girl cries.
That will do really bad.
People love it when they cry on Tik Tok.
They love it.
I know I stop.
I'm like, why is she crying?
Yes, when happened, then you have to look back several videos to figure out what happened
and then it's a whole thing.
I actually had a video that went viral because I was crying on camera.
See?
Yeah, see, it works.
It works.
Definitely works.
That's another tip.
Cry in syrup.
Cry a lot.
Just fucking cry.
On camera, off camera.
I'm the crying simmer.
I only build during mental breakdown.
Yes.
That's actually a good idea.
I'm just a good concept.
I go to building.
I'm like, I'm really sad.
I'm just going to like loop.
They're kind of funny to like, okay, if next time I have a mental breakdown, I'll be waiting
with bated breath for your next mental break.
Just have your phone ready to go.
Here's my phone and like, so that's the problem.
Okay, so like, because I'm a YouTuber, they'll be like, they'll do their fake ask apology.
They're like, make sure for every tear I had you like, like this video.
And you just, I'm just so sad.
Like, I'm just like, you're full of shit.
I got all the same tears.
Yeah.
There's some crocodile tears right there in my frivol.
Anyways, it has been an absolute pleasure doing this round table today.
I want to do a quick round of everybody so you let everybody know where we can find you
on Tik Tok and Nard.
You can go first.
All right.
You can find me on Tik Tok at Nard villain.
That's me.
Perfect.
Hip hip Renee.
How about you?
You can find me on Tik Tok at hip hip Renee.
It is not hi, hi preemie or any of the other names that you call me.
It's hip hip Renee, like hip hip hooray.
I love that cookie.
How about you?
You can find me on Tik Tok at cogey creative no dot.
I'm like Instagram.
Same as my gallery ID.
So yeah, C O K I.
Great.
Perfect.
If you want to follow me and see some sad ass videos of not crying, but just like,
nothing since like, and this is coming out till like August.
So almost a year.
I'll maybe buy that.
I'll have some.
She might have crying videos.
I might have crying videos.
This is where it started.
This is where it started guys.
This is my origin villain story of just being like, guys, I became a villain and
I started crying on Tik Tok or I just started to like, stop villain or I go on only fans
and selfie photos.
Or you can start a new trend.
Foot talks.
See hashtag foot talks.
Yeah.
I'll just edit my foot here instead of me talking and I'll just have my mouth and
I'll just the hot time.
Yeah.
See.
Yeah.
I have so many views.
It's so weird.
Why are men offering me the $100,000 in their PayPal account?
Like I don't have like, I don't have good looking.
I got flat hobbit feet.
Okay.
But I have a market for that.
Okay.
That's not easy to find.
Yeah.
I'm sure with bad ankle support and hairy toes.
I mean, oh, the fucking.
Stop.
See, you are.
I'm sure you got, yeah.
See, you're going to already have your listeners like curious about.
You're ready.
Ready.
Eddie sponsored listening.
This will be like, fuck that.
We should get.
Toe rings.
Anglet sandals.
I actually need some new flip flops.
So, um,
There we go.
Well, Stossi flip flops toe rings, socks, everything, everything.
There you go.
Well, anyways, Kettos and it's been an absolute pleasure.
I probably was probably one of my favorite podcasts I've done this season.
But anyways, guys, absolute pleasure.
Please go check out everybody.
Eddie sponsors listening.
Please go check out these guys as well.
They are all amazing.
Everyone deserves some time in the sun.
And I want to thank you all for coming today.
And I really do hope that you, from all the laughs and giggles, you do,
all the listeners do take a listen in to learning some tips and tricks when it
comes to TikTok, because that is the future of social media.
You will continue to see more platforms coming out in the,
in the future of just very quick content.
So thank you guys for coming here today and sharing your wisdom with everybody.
Thanks for having us.
You are welcome.
I'll have a great rest of your day.
Bye.