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Hi everyone, welcome back to my channel. My name is Stacey. Thank you so much for being here today.

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I am so excited to be hosting this roundtable today because as a social media manager, I think

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it is absolutely embarrassing to how little I know of TikTok because I tend to stay away from

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a platform. As someone who has ADHD, I feel like I would spend my entire life there as you continuously

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scroll and scroll and scroll and scroll. But I thought it would be very fun and as well,

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I thought and it was Tattooed Simmer who also thought this would be a very fun podcast to do.

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So I have some of the best of the best TikTokers, TikTokers, Simmers here to kind of share with

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some of the knowledge. So guys, thank you so much for coming here today. Thank you. Thank you.

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Thanks for having us. Yes, of course. You are very, very welcome. Well, while we, that's okay.

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Why don't we start us off with a quick round of introductions. Cookie, you go first. Hi, I'm

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Alayna. Cookie Creatives, my name on Instagram, TikTok, and my account's named after my dog.

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I don't know what else to say. I love that though. I love that. I love Cookie. Anytime Cookie's on the

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beach, it gives me life. I know that one day I could be a dog on the beach. Oh yeah. She's

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my goals. Living her best life, honestly. I love it. I, Gerald, how about you?

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Jannard, I go by Nardvillain, Nardvillain on TikTok, YouTube, Twitch, and then NardSims on

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Instagram. And I've been producing content for the Sims for since 2020, I believe. Yeah,

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2020. Congrats on almost two years. Yeah. Yeah. Thank you. You are very welcome. I'm also excited

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for everyone to listen to our podcast. Okay, like you don't have no idea. I think about it all the

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time that me and you need to go into radio together. Yeah, we should. I know we should. I don't, I don't.

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Do you trim it up? Or do you think your audience is ready for like that five hour long interview we

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did? I did not. It wasn't five hours. It was not. It was just slightly under two hours. Oh, okay,

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okay. Which is not bad. The longest one right now is two hours and 58 minutes and change.

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And that was the not so buried podcast. Oh my God. That was must have been said. I know, right?

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It was, we went through every single generation. Nice. And the tips and tricks for everything.

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And I sat there and I had another podcast ever after it actually bled into the other one. I

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messaging the other person being like, Hey, man, I'm currently filming a podcast right now. And

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it's like, I can't like, please give me an extra 30 minutes. That podcast, the one after was two

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hours and 45 minutes. It was the mental health podcast. So in one weekend, that was that that

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was the same weekend we did this Instagram. Yes. So you guys remember that you guys had held for two

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and a half hours for a day and then a hundred baby challenge was like, Yo, hold my beer. I'm

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going to fucking I'm going to go after that weekend. That was like nine hours of podcast

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filming. I was like, I can't do this. And talk to me. Don't talk to me, everyone. Anyways,

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Naradvillan, I'm so excited to have you back here today. Hip hip Renee, how about you? Hi,

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you can pretend that you can see me. I don't know what's going on there. But hi, I'm hip hip Renee.

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I started off on YouTube and during the global panini, I moved over to TikTok. And that's kind

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of my main thing right now. So yeah, super excited to be here. I appreciate that you called it a

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panini. Yeah, global panorama. Okay, well, I love it. Well, like I said, I actually have questions,

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not printed out because who owns up who has a printer in their house? I have a printer.

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Someone's got them like together. I have a printer and I use a fax machine almost every day at work.

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I just want to point that out. Oh my god. So I aspire to be you and I'm older because I

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everyone else does too. So I get it. Okay, yeah, I'll just I'll just get in line. I'll just put

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that I'll go Margot Margot Robbie, Jennifer Lawrence and then hip hip Renee. Yes, that is the

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order of my inspiration wall. Yes. I mean, you even have Sims five named after you. I mean,

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project Renee. Oh, that's true. I do. It's amazing. I love it. It being named after me. It's so good.

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I messaged some guru ninja immediately after and I was like, thank you. I'm glad you took inspiration.

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Yeah. Well, I love it. Here's the first question. How come you chose TikTok to start sharing your

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platform? Sorry, how come you chose TikTok? One of the internet's most loving love to hate platforms

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to share your content as anybody can go first. Oh boy. I just wanted people to I just wanted

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trying to have my information, you know, that's all I needed, you know, for TikTok is just for

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them to take my information. No, I'm just kidding. Bad joke. I was I started on YouTube. So I was

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just wanted to just have another outlet. And a lot of people were telling me, especially what's

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his name, V. Everybody know who V is. He was talking about he was raving about TikTok. So I kind

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of hopped on the bandwagon a little too late, but I just thought it'd be great for the for my

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engagement. So I just started kind of trimming up what I already had produced into a little short

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form clips. And just in like the third video, I got like 500 views. And I thought, oh my god, 500

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views. That's like amazing. So, so I just started pushing it. Because I think TikTok at the beginning

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was kind of like giving me a lot of views to keep me wanting to produce content on it. And then as

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I started watching other creators on TikTok, the platform just got slightly addicted for me,

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addicting. So I just started just kind of like produce producing more content strictly for short

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form. And then before you know it, I just it just became consistent for me. And that's pretty much

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how I got the start is just, you know, wanting another platform, other than YouTube, to kind of

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push out my content. Yeah, can I can I ask so you took the content on YouTube and you take

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like your shorts, I do still post them everywhere else as well, just to kind of get that spread

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talk exclusive content that's not on YouTube. Every once in a while, I might do exclusive

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content for TikTok, like if I'm using stuff within the app, that might not make sense or

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register right on Instagram, then I'll just keep it exclusively for TikTok. A lot of times I don't

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really use a lot of stuff native to TikTok. I like to do everything in product and post production.

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I like sometimes to create my own captions and create I do everything the hard way, I guess.

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I should probably start taking advantage of actually utilizing the the app features because

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I think that's what the app is there for is to just show that anybody, everybody, even your even

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your grandparents can can be TikTok people, you know, they can just use your phone, because we

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have everything for you, green screen and stuff like that. So at the beginning, yeah, that's what

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I was doing. I was like utilizing the app for its features and then saving it to my my phone and

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then using it over to YouTube and stuff like that in Instagram. But now I just probably I don't do it

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as much as I did in the beginning. So to answer your question, yeah, I did it first. But now I just

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kind of if it's going to be on TikTok and I'm using their app features, then it's probably going to be

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exclusive for for TikTok. Okay, I think that's a good question because I know a lot of people

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transfer over. So it's on shorts, TikToks and reels. And I kind of find like, like, like videos that

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you would make would do better on TikTok than they would ever do on reels because it's original audio

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versus song. Anything song will get so much more love on reels, but original audio gets no love

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when it comes to reels. Well, anyways, thank you for sharing cookie. How about you?

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Okay, well, you know, I started with Instagram and then during the pinning, I was seeing that

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TikTok was going crazy. So I posted like one or two things. One thing I posted did really well on

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Reddit. Like it got picked up by Gaming Bible. So I was like, all right, I'm going to use that video

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and then make a TikTok. It did not do well. And then I was like, okay, I'll make one more. It did

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not do well. I didn't touch it for years. It was just my personal, it was like, just code created,

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but I would just follow random people. I was just using it for personal use. But then, like, this

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year, since I was making all these reels, I'm like, I'll just post them over to TikTok. Not a big deal.

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I noticed that a lot of the songs on TikTok were about a minute long. And most of my reels are at

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least a minute and a half. Well, that's a max time. And so that's when I started doing these

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voiceovers since I found that was easier than trying to find a song that matched. And I started

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doing that just like a couple months ago. And it was just very recently where I started doing like

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a few more tutorials because people are always asking me, what's the red shell? What's that? What are

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you doing? So I'm like, all right, I'm just going to make a video instead of typing out the answer

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50 times. And then I got a couple videos that actually started doing good, doing well. And

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then I'm like, all right, maybe I should start focusing on TikTok more. Like,

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the past like two months, I've gotten 10,000 plus followers. Like, I'm growing so much faster

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there. Like Instagram, I feel like it's pulling teeth for like making content, getting people

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engaged. TikTok, some of my videos won't do that well. Some of them will get a million. And I'm

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like, what? I'm not getting this kind of attention on Instagram. So that's why I, it's like, I almost

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like accidentally started doing it because it just wasn't my intention. I didn't really see myself as

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a TikTok person, but now I'm like, I'm focusing more on TikTok than Instagram, which just feels so

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weird to say. Hey, I feel like that is weird to say. I feel like a lot of people made the switch

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because it was, was it like last October, November, when Amazon plays? So when Instagram was like,

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you know what, we're gonna be fucking TikTok and we're going to start putting ads.

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They ruined it. I mean, it did.

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Not in the sense it's an Instagram, but like when they started doing the real feature,

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and then I started putting all this energy into editing videos. And I also use my computer to

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edit everything. I might finish them off with the app, but I'm like, well, if I'm making all this

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content, I might as well be posting it on other platforms since I can't just post photos on Instagram

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anymore. Well, you could, but you could, but I mean, God forbid, like it's like, it's literally

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pulling teeth. Like right now, like my main stasi page, it's just like I'm banging my fucking head

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against the wall because you go through these periods of like these ups and downs, like what we

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talked about in the Simstagram podcast is when you're on a high, you're on a fucking high. But

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when you're on a low, you're on a fucking low. Yeah. And you just lose followers. Like

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I will go through a day where I hit it my off zone and then it'll go back down because I didn't post

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for one day. TikTok, I'm like, oh, I cannot post for a couple of days and it's not going to affect

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any of my engagement, any of the people following me. I'm like, it's so much less stressful of a

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platform, which I mean, if you would have asked me this six months ago, I'd be like, I'm not going

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to mess with TikTok, but I've even been doing testing where like A, B testing, I'll post something,

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the same video on TikTok and Instagram the same day, TikTok will perform so much better.

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And I'm like, okay, well, I've been wasting my time. Well, not wasting, but this is where I

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should be focusing my energy, TikTok. So very interesting. No, that definitely is very interesting.

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I think it's, I think it's just because like TikTok is just, I think TikTok is now beaten

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Instagram when it comes to ads. And when you think about who uses Instagram, you're following your

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friends or cousins, all your, the people you know, so you're less likely to follow businesses or

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since the Graham accounts, but my TikTok, you're looking for the content you're just interested

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in. Yeah, one of my cousins, but like I'm mostly following comedians or skit people, other niche

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interests. So I think TikTok was designed for content creators to be successful. It's really

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interesting. But I will, I definitely will say that TikTok will humble you. Oh, I'm shocked.

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Every once in a while, you would get that, you know, nice little 500,000 views or maybe even

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a million views. And then that third post, like 200 views. It'll humble you. It'll humble you.

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And you're, it's probably the poster like this is going to do so well. Yeah. You're going to love this one.

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Yeah. Well, cookie, thank you for sharing. Last but not least, Hippin Pernay.

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Yeah. So my story, I would say is similar to Nard where I started off on YouTube and my YouTube

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content is very different from my TikTok content. On YouTube, I'm a little bit more serious. It's,

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you know, I have my brief history videos where I talk about true crime and I talk about historical

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things and I just kind of overlay it over the Sims. And I had a lot of ideas that were like

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really chaotic and like really fun, but just didn't make sense in long form content, but also

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didn't make sense with the other content that I was putting on my YouTube. So my thoughts were,

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I could start a second YouTube channel, which seems like a lot of effort because YouTube is like,

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it's so much more time intensive, I think, because it takes me five minutes to film a TikTok. And

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then that TikTok could get a million views. It takes me three days to create and edit and post

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a YouTube video and it could get a hundred. So I decided to take all of kind of my short form

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other ideas over to TikTok. I did have access to the YouTube shorts at that time and I did post

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a couple, but I just don't like putting those two things together. I feel like if I'm on YouTube,

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I want long form content. If I want short form content, I'm going to go to TikTok. That's really

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kind of what it's made for. So yeah, I just wanted to do something a little bit different to the

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content that I had been previously making. And again, it was like 2020. So I had quite a lot

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of time on my hands to be able to do just some extra stuff. Hey, I like that. I know we talked

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about that in our summer spotlight last week. It's interesting because yeah, I'm a person that I

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love YouTube. I would say I watch YouTube more than I watch Netflix and Crave and all the other

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stuff. I love the ability of watching people create their own stuff. I have my favorite YouTubers.

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I watch their stuff. It's a show. But it's always funny. You get to the end of the video. It's a

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20 minute video and they're like, guys, thank you so much for staying. You guys are the true MVPs.

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Like we are a fan. I'm a person. If I watch a video, I watch it through and through even if it's

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a shitty video because I clicked on it. I'm going to watch it. But I know that that's the

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furthest thing from the truth is most people that they watch a minute of it. Like, okay,

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I watched the video. Okay, cool. Bye. Because you can tell in your YouTube mattress where people stop

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watching and it is heartbreaking once in a while. Like I would I used to do speed builds?

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20 seconds. Yeah. 20 seconds. Damn, they can't even make it through the intro.

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So I don't even do intros anymore. I just get right to it. I'm like, all right, they don't even

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want to hear what my name is. They don't care. Okay, I'm gonna have my grandma's

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stoffy moment of just being like, I'm a boomer. Okay. So obviously, I am on TikTok. Okay, I mean,

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who I wanted to grab the name. It was in the summer. I had this epiphany. I would make tri-files,

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which is YouTube, Reel and TikTok. And I had them out there and I transferred over. I never really,

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it never really, I didn't really put as much effort in. I would just kind of schedule my content and

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leave just because I was very anti. I don't want to be on the platform of just because I would get

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there. By the time I could get to my DMs or whatever, I would already have seen two TikToks.

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It was just flying so quickly and I just, I couldn't dedicate myself to pull down that

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rabbit hole all the time. And it's the same way with Reels. Like right now, like my girlfriend

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is sending me Reels and she thinks that's my love language. It's not my love language. I get it.

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I get funny Reel once in a while. But I think the problem is, is I can't understand what the

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fuck these kids are saying on TikTok. Okay, so they were trying to get your attention in the

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first five seconds. Because if you don't have your attention in the first five seconds, it's

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gone. That's literally what they taught me when I had to redo the everything you need to know

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about TikTok from corporate America. And it was awful. Like not, I mean, what they trade was awful

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and what you have to do. Because basically, okay, good. Okay, so here's everything. Here's everything.

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Here's, because the thing is, they know your one thumb swipe away from just going to the next

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video. So they have to grab your attention in the first one, which is causing people to have

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focus problems, I feel like, because, because like now you're just like, okay, look, I don't like this

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one. I'm off to the next, off to the next, off to the next. And then you realize it's like an hour

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later and you're just like, Oh my God, like it's almost like playing Sims. Yeah. Like I was off all

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week. I did a lot of Sims playing, getting myself caught up making Rose Chronicles. And I would,

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it was like, I would be making a chap, like I'd be making two slides or take me three hours. I'd

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be like, Oh my God, that was three hours. Shit. So I kind of feel like that's the same way with

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TikTok that like, like YouTube content, long format is going to die because they don't have the

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tension span to even watch a minute and a half short or a minute short versus a 20 minute video.

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And I, that kind of makes me really sad that we're going into that, that way of just like,

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always wanting, because it's basically gambling. Right. You're just like, let's keep going, let's

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keep going, let's keep going, let's keep going, because it's, it's, it's never ending. There's no

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end to your TikTok. They will find something. And I will say they are significantly better at

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finding what you're interested in. Like significantly. So for an example, I, for work, I wanted to be a

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dick and basically something, because I used to work for a sign company and I don't work for them

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anymore. So I can now bash them because I did not sign an NDA when I left because they're idiots. So

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I for a week did, I only looked at anti-trudeau stuff just for fun. I just wanted to see,

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I would just Google anything. A week later, I was getting QAnon stuff, PPC. It, all it took was me

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watching three videos and the algorithm went that was, I think that's really dangerous. And that's

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how a lot of misinformation is spread. So again, as I am an old lady, that's my stance, but that's

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not just TikTok. That's everybody. That is every Facebook even. Oh God, Facebook is the worst.

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The worst. Facebook is the worst. I literally, I go to a chamber of your own thoughts and they're

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like, then people go, Oh, well, everyone thinks the way I think, because that's all I'm seeing.

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Yes. Not really. Well, yeah, because the algorithm shows you what you want to see, which again can

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be scary, but my husband and I do this thing where we watch, like, we'll hold each other's phones and

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we'll be like, all right, let's, I want to watch your for you page. You watch mine. And he has such

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different content than I do because of just the things that we like. And it's really interesting.

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Oh yeah. I like my for you page. Don't get me wrong, but it's nice to see like,

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what, what else is out there? So much. I'm not seeing. Oh yeah. Saucy's main one. I get hair,

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princess dresses and wedding. I have no Sims. I have nothing. Sin is related. But on the podcast

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page, I have Canada rights for some unknown reason. I'm Canadian, but it's not like it's like

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Canadian fact number one, did you know that it is illegal to chew gum on a Saturday in a small

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city and task it to you? Yeah, it's weird rules that like, because Canada has a lot of weird

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rules and like really small cities. Like I'm talking like a city that has like 50 people. Oh,

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we are, we are always like, you could drive through town. Like my girlfriend just moved to

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a small town two weekends ago. There's a thousand people that live there. I guess very common to

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be in the fuck, fuck, nowhere, especially in this province. This province is massive. You can fit

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Texas five times in this province. Oh my God. You can't even live in all the province because

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it's all it's bears in Arctic. The further north you go. Anyways, long story short. And for Rose

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Chronicles, I just, it's Sims. It's all Sims. Everything Sims. And that's the platform I use

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the most. Like, sorry, the least to be honest with you. But yeah, Stossi, the one I use the most,

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no Sims content. So I have a question because this is something that I've also noticed on

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your main Stossi page. Do you follow Sims Tik Tokers? I don't know if you're a Sims Tik Toker

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or not. Because so what I've noticed, because I on my for you page, I do not get Sims content at

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all. Same because I follow so many Sims talkers and they're in my following page. So they already

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know that I want to see that stuff. And I already am following probably all of the people that I

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want to be following at this point. So I don't get it in my for you page because why are they going

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to show me this new content when I already have it over here? So I think that's more what it is,

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is that when you start following a lot of things that are within the same niche, you're not going

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to get that as much on your for you page because they want you checking out new things and not

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thinking that you're already following, which is kind of a good thing, but also a bad thing. Yeah,

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yeah, I would rather see the content that I signed up for because when I go to my for you page on

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Tik Tok, it's like just random like viral video skits and entertain. I get a lot of entertainment

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stuff. And here and there, I'll get like, you know, if I sit on something a little too long,

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you know, like some little eye candy or something. And all of a sudden I got eye candy in the for

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you page. I'm like, so every time I see eye candy, I got to like kind of swipe, you know, pretty fast.

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But, but, um, but yeah, so it's kind of weird. So I just want to see what's on like the people that

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I'm following. So I'm like, because I have to literally go and search like hip hip Renee or

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search Daniel Bill just to see what they're up to, you know, just, and I wish I can just be able

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to still see that, even though I know it's there, it's just a different tab, obviously. But yeah,

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I wish that tab was as soon as you open the the app, I wish that tab was the first thing you open

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up. But Tik Tok smart, they're like, we don't want to want you to just see that first. We want you

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to see new content. That's the purpose of the platform. So yeah. And I feel like it devolves

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even more from there because you have your for you page, but then you start following people and it

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goes to the following page. But then those people start following you back and now they're only on

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your friends page. So like, I don't see any of nerds content unless I go to my friends page.

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He's not on my following. He's not on my for you page. Yeah. Because we're sure I'm not blocked.

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It sounds like my friend. I think I'm just blocked. Yeah. I'm just kidding. You can tell us it's fine.

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He totally is. He's the only person on my block list. So okay.

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Well, moving on, I have another question. So everybody here kind of has a different style of

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creating content. I want to know how do you create content for your audience and anyone

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can go first? Go nuts. I open my phone when I have a weird idea in my brain and I film it and I post

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it. I do not do any editing. I do not rerecord things. I post it if it does well, it does well.

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And if it doesn't, it doesn't took up three minutes of my time and I'm done for the day.

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That's how I do my content. That's how I do my content. That's how I do my content. Goals. Those are my new goals.

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That's what I do. For me. All right. Same. Okay. So walk, okay. Walk me through. Tell me, okay. You have

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a weird idea right now. What is your weird idea and from start to finish? So let's say, so I came

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up with one day, and now this is a series at this point, but I came up with, I had seen, her name

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is color me lovely. I don't know if you guys have seen her stuff, but she does the the PR skits

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where I'm like it'll be like King Charles calling and it's like topical things. And I was like,

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that's a good idea. How can I use that idea? And I was like, oh my god, what if I was a Sims 911

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operator because I had the idea of like a phone and answering a phone. So I was like Sims 911

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operator, what could be happening? Okay, someone is in a pool and someone put a fence around the pool.

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And I literally set up my phone on my tripod and I started talking to myself. I filmed it one time.

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I posted it and it got like hundreds of thousands of views. And now I make it a series. So every once

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in a while I'll come up with an idea and be like, oh, what if someone was like kicking over a trash can

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in someone's yard. So they called 911 and they were mad about someone kicking. So I'll just

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and I just hope that I word bomb it like funny things. And sometimes I do and sometimes I don't.

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But yeah, I just do it. I don't put any thought behind my TikToks whatsoever. That's why I do

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TikTok because I feel like it's just like I can get all the weird things that I think of in my brain.

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And that's what I love about your content because I've seen your content and I'm a huge fan of your

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YouTube content and I know how much work you put into your YouTube videos. Because I've been following

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you since I've actually joined the Sims community a couple of years ago. And it's an honor to be

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obviously just chatting with all three of you, by the way. So I'll be in a way. But yeah, so I

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so when I see your TikToks, I love them too, just because I know like just that you're just having

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fun and you're not really putting like a lot of like not I ain't gonna say effort, but just like

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because I know, like I said, because it's so much different than your YouTube audience, you know, so

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yeah kudos. Just I enjoy the chaos. That's why I do it is to be chaotic as possible. So

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I love it. Nard, how about you?

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Renee because I do the same stuff on YouTube where I actually have to write a script or at

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least jot down the talking point. So I know what I'm talking about. So that way I don't have to,

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you know, correct the haters in the comments because I didn't do my homework right or whatever.

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like I like to do these little new segments on TikTok, where I will take some Sims content

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that's in my game and I'll like create a new segment around it. And so what I would have to do

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is I would have to write the script because it's obviously a new script, I can kind of improvise

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it too because I'm really good at that. And then I have to, you know, where my, I have like this

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persona where I wear like my cowboy hat and I have a suit on, I'm in the green screen, I got my box

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lights. So I make, I literally make it look like a professional news station. I love the videos.

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script together, come up with the concept, the production, put the box lights up, you know,

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record on the green screen, bring it all into the Premiere Pro CC, and then I have to key off

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the green screen. And then after I do all that, I piece together the segment, now I got to go into

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the Sims 4 and then record the gameplay, got to make the Sims do what you want them to do. So your

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script can actually make sense because they have their mind of their own too.

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Which I have another segment for that. But so yeah, and then after that, that's another hour,

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maybe hour and a half. And so with all that, that's almost what three, four hours of just

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something that could have easily been like 30 minutes or less if I use the the in app features

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on TikTok, but instead I rather go that whole hard route and produce it, write it,

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do the production a little bit better, because I want to be able to use this throughout, you know,

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YouTube and Instagram as well. And I just want to keep the quality the same. Like if I'm already

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doing it that way on TikTok, I want people to know that every time I do that segment, it's going to

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be the same. So yeah, about five hours of production or overall five, five hours of work, and then

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maybe 2000 views. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. That's how it always works. And then I do something on my phone,

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maybe 100,000 views. Easy peasy. Always. Always. Well, Nara, thank you for sharing. Cookie, how about you?

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So depending on what I'm making, if it's a like, I've been starting to do my speed builds a little

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different than I would do on Instagram. I've been taking, I've speeded up two times, just twice,

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but I take like about two second increments and then I piece them all together and then the build

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is like slowly building. But doing that, like clipping all those things for a build, I'm already

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recording anyway for YouTube, which my YouTube is not impressive. I post like hope I want to do

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once a week, but I just don't. But I'm already filming for other reasons. I'm not just filming for

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TikTok. I'm doing Reels also with this. So when I think of the time I spent, I'm like, well, this is

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cross platform. So at least this is for multiple things. But from start to finish with those,

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because I also do a voiceover when I'm done, takes at least like two, three hours, which I'm trying

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to get faster, but just trying to pick out the important things I want people to see like tricks,

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like I'm using tool mod in a really unique way. So I want to include that in the video. And I,

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you think it would be fast, just like, Oh, pull out these things. But I'm like, I need to pull out

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the most important parts that are going to capture people's attention. And then when I do the voice

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overs, I do them in little clips at a time because like right now, I just like couldn't think of what

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to say. So with TikTok, like you said, you need to talk at them. So I talk as fast as I can. And

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I just clip it all together. And then that will be about a minute and a half. I have everything

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at minute and a half. So I can post on reels and TikTok without any extra editing or anything like

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that. Since, um, yeah, I just don't want to spend my time simply on one thing. I want to be able to

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spread it across. The only thing is with shorts, it has to be a minute. And that's why I don't post

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it. Just not enough. But then I do these tutorials, which I'm kind of new at. And they take me a while,

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but they're about like an hour or two hours. Because I have to, I wouldn't say a script per se,

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but more bullet points. Because, you know, if you miss something, people are going to let you know

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like, oh, well, I do it this way. And it works. I'm like, okay, that's cool. Thanks. So you just

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like want to make sure you have all those talking points, or else people will call you out on it.

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right, because people will know if it's not right. So not writing a script, but like,

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keeping, keeping tabs of what I'm saying and making sure I hit all the points. So doing all that does

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take time. But yeah, I would say roughly three hours per video. Not 40 seconds. I need to get

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that. So I, Hey, paper, day, it's why I brought you on. We got, we got, we got, we got, yeah,

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sure. Guys, all you got to do is just make your content as shitty as possible. And for some reason,

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people will watch it. I don't know why. I don't understand it. Okay. Cause I started, when I

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first started off my TikTok, I did a lot of like, I'm going to put this into premiere. I'm going to

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make it look nice. I'm going to do a professional voiceover. I'm going to pick, then I started

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filming my screen. And that's, that's when I took off. Honestly, think that it's also because,

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again, I think TikTok really wants the other users to see how easy it is to just implement

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what Renee's doing, like the green screen on your phone, the voiceover features on the phone and,

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and all that just to show. And then when you're scrolling, it doesn't look like an ad. It looks

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like someone literally is a, you know, TikTok video. So when, if you don't know who I am and you see

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my video, you might just think that it's a legit Sims 4 ad because sometimes it starts out and it

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looks a little polished. And it's like, Oh wow, this, is this an ad or is this an actual video?

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Yeah, I'm trying to find that like, because people want that unique, but almost personal content.

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It like, Oh, it feels like I'm in their world. They're just recording their, their screen,

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something funny instead of something so polished, because we see so much polished content out there,

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especially for ads and stuff. So trying to be okay with it, not being perfect is the hardest thing.

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Yeah. It took me a while to get there. Yeah. Yeah, I did not understand it for,

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because I was posting videos and I was like, these are doing really well on YouTube. Like,

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I don't understand why this isn't doing well on TikTok. And then I just kind of like,

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let go a little bit. And now I'm way more comfortable. I fill my screen. You can see the

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lines on my screen and see like my rat cages behind me and I don't put makeup on anymore. Like, I just,

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I just do it. I just don't, I feel like, I don't want to say I don't care because I do care about

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my content. I care about the content that I make, but less caring about kind of what people are

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thinking of me. Like, you're going to like my content or you're not. It's no skin off my back,

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either way, honestly. And if you don't like it, you're probably going to comment on it.

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And that's going to be better for me anyway. Engagement. Yeah. And then if people get in

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a little fight in your comics, I have one of those happening right now. I've been very interested

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in keeping track of it. See, that is fascinating. And thank you guys so much for sharing. I've had

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the opposite effect. So I would, I would post like short bits of like the podcast at the beginning.

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No one would, they would actually would come and listen to the podcast. They would grab their

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snippet. They had the idea what the interview was and then left. Like I, it was just, it was

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so weird. Once I stopped, my listeners went right back up. Hmm. I literally just said no. Like,

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I'm not going to waste, because like I, as an artist, I would take, because I do this in Premiere

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Pro. I have the Dewey Suite. I would find a specific clip. I would edit it very out. I had the

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frames to go around it. Like making a reel would take me about an hour trying to, sorry,

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I just ticked off her, whatever, for all the platforms. And I, and I did it. And I, like no one would listen

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and no one would care. And they would be like, okay, cool. So like, this is like,

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so this is who she's talking to, blah, blah, blah. That was it. So I was like, you know what,

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I put way too much time into this podcast to you take a minute, listen, and you're like,

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okay, I'm going to need to listen to this podcast. In my mind, I thought you would see a snippet

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of it to see, oh, fuck, I really want to listen to this because I would pick the funniest part of

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the, I would literally, if you go back and watch the first part of the season, you would see me

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continuously clocking, looking at the clock, because that's when I knew when this spot was.

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Oh, yeah. You could continuously keep seeing me doing that, because I had to know because

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these podcasts are like hours long, I would literally have to be like, okay, well, like this

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is, this is the best 30 second clip and it would always be the funny or just like we get like,

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laughing and just to show like it was a good time. No one would, they would just be like,

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okay, cool. That's who she interviewed. Awesome. Like, oh, cool. I saw it. I saw it. I saw it.

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Yeah. Right. So, or people would be like, I didn't like listen to your podcast, but I like

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watched the reel and it was, it was okay. And I'm like, okay, so no, I want you to come listen to

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this content because the people I'm interviewing, I want you to listen to them and get to learn their

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story, not the like, not the 10 second clip. And then I did a bunch of like reels that was like

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funniest game pack, best game pack and stuff. And I put that on TikTok that nothing didn't

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fucking go anywhere. Reels though, 100,000. They are the opposite. It's the opposite. It's the

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complete opposite. Yeah. So I was just like, you know, I fuck this. I don't have time. You know

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what I notice? I mean, this is hopefully just, this is super random, but room builds. I mean,

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that performs so well on reels. If I do a room build on TikTok, I get like, I'm lucky to get

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5,000 views. Yeah. It's weird. And yeah, I'm like, it's the same thing I'm doing, but like,

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some reels like certain videos and then TikToks like certain videos. I can't, I'm still learning.

393
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I feel like it's an entirely different audience because I have an Instagram. I don't use it.

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Instagram was like just slightly past my time. I'm 36. So it's like just past the time where I

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was like into that type of social media and it just didn't do it for me. And I never got into it

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since I opened my Instagram once a month to check my DMs because sometimes people will DM me.

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Yes. Yes. That's why I didn't answer you because I don't open my Instagram, but I'm on TikTok

398
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every single day. So I think it's just, it's the type of people who are watching that content are

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on different platforms. And I feel like if you're a builder too, I feel like you already, that's why

400
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I really appreciate you cookie because I feel like people who can build is just like amazing

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because that's one thing I can't do. And so when I'm on Instagram, that's all I see on my For You

402
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page is just people building. So I just feel like if I was a builder, I think I could maybe have

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more leverage on Instagram versus TikTok. And then even when you go on a TikTok, I think people are

404
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still looking for builds and how to do stuff. So I think if you continue with your tutorials,

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I think those will also pop off at some point because some people are looking for that. And

406
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what I've noticed about TikTok is once you start doing something, I know my phone, my camera died,

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I'll switch the battery out. But I noticed when you do something a little more consistent,

408
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eventually the algorithm will kind of where the audience is well, I like to call it will catch

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onto it and hope in hopes that it'll start getting more reach and getting into playlists.

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As a huge one, tutorials for the Sims do extremely well on TikTok. You just need to be

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noticed first because I feel like while they do well, it's also not something that TikTok super

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pushes. So you kind of have to have like that built in audience a little bit that wants to see

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those tutorials. And then it's going to start getting pushed out because the TikTok algorithm,

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as far as I'm concerned, is like the wild west of social media. It makes zero sense. There's

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no rhyme or reason to it whatsoever. But like, if you stay consistent with things like that,

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tutorials do exceptionally well. That's great, because I'm going to film one today.

417
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I'm just curious, how many posts do you guys do a week? Do you even have a schedule for TikTok?

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I would say that I have a schedule. I make it a point to post at minimum one a day.

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That's as long as I can hit one a day, I'm happy. But there are day yesterday I posted four,

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because I had these videos. So I tend to batch create my content because again,

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it doesn't take me very long to make my content. So I'll sit down for like three hours and bust

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out every single TikTok for the week plus some. So I noticed yesterday that my videos were getting,

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I've been getting really shit views lately. And yesterday my videos were like popping off.

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So I was like, I have some really good videos on my drafts. I'm posting them now. And they're

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going to do well or they're not going to do well. Every single one of them did really well.

426
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I just want to throw that out there. I was really impressed with myself. But I did four yesterday.

427
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But there are days where, during the week, Monday through Thursday, I work a real person job, a

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hard real person job. So whenever I have a little break, I'll see if I can post something. And if

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I can, I can. And if I can't, I can't. But usually like weekends, I'll post two to three

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a day at minimum. Yeah. That's awesome. That is a great goal. I mean, I'm trying to do like

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five days a week because of how long the content takes. But yeah, like I'll, I do try to give

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myself a day off right now until I figure out how to make some faster. I would like some fast

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content in between some of the longer videos. Like what you said, just quick, because I do a lot of

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gameplay in real life. It's some aside, I don't show on my Instagram or TikTok. I would love to

435
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show that I'm actually a player also. I don't just build. So how can I make unique content for me?

436
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I don't want to copy someone else. I just have to figure it out. So yeah, one of the things that I

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tend to do, and this is for, so I have like my main content, which is like my main series,

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the Roasting Your Builds, the Murder Gauntlet, the whatever else, the Sims 911, I have all those.

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And I try and post at least a couple of those a week. Those are my main, that's my video for

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everyday situation. But I have so many just like random TikTok audio saved. And every once in a

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while, I'll just go through my audios and listen to them. And I hear something and I'm like, oh,

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yeah, that would be really funny with the gameplay that I've been doing on my own. So I use that as

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like my backup content. And that's just something that I can post as my second video or my third

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video. Or if I don't have anything filmed for that day, because I didn't batch film enough,

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I have something in my drafts at least. So I feel like audios on TikTok do pretty well.

446
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You're giving me so many ideas right now. I know that those exist. When I'm watching my own, I'm like,

447
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that was really funny. I save every audio that I hear that I even remotely like.

448
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So smart. I never think to save them. I never think like, how can I do that? Yeah,

449
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yeah, guys are smart. I'm still like a newbie for this. Well, I have to ask,

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do you guys ever schedule your content on TikTok? Sometimes. So as far as I can tell,

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the only way to like sit like actually like schedule your content is if you upload it via

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your computer. Yes, I've never been able to find a way to do it in the app. And I do everything

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on my phone. So I just put it in my drafts. And I post it when I feel like it's an appropriate time

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to post it. So yes, but not technically, I guess. Yeah, no, I got you. Yeah, because I would just

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throw it online and because you can go 11 days out. So you could just say, okay, cool. So I'll

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do this will be my podcast. I would have it come out for the Wednesday because it's been

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podcasts coming out. Just kind of stuff like that. It made life a little easier for something,

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someone who's like, real time job. I don't know. I can't just sit and because I could be in a meeting

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at 2pm on Wednesday, but I can just go ahead and do that now. And then side note that now you can

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do that on Instagram for 90 plus days, you can schedule your content out. That is a fucking game

461
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changer. I have all my podcasts post scheduled out till June. I have all the Rose Chronicles

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scheduled. I have all of the story spot like out till June. And I don't even have to do anything.

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I just spent four hours, got two, two and a half months worth of scheduling out. I'm good to go.

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I can continue on with my life, which I love. I love that as a schedule, especially as a social

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media manager. That is a fucking credible feature that I can manage multiple accounts, right? It's

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nice. I can just, you can go in and schedule. I feel like it's very different with TikTok.

467
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Because there is not a consistent day of the week or time that you really should be posting your

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video. I could post a video every Saturday morning at 9am and one Saturday it's going to get a million

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views. One Saturday it's going to get 27 views. So I like to wait until I notice I'm getting a lot

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of notifications. So when I'm getting a lot of likes or I'm getting a lot of comments on other

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videos, that's the time I want to be posting. I don't want to schedule something and hope that

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that's going to be a good time of day. As opposed to YouTube, where I know if I post at noon on

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Fridays, that's when brief history comes out sometimes. And that's when I post that. And

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that's when people would expect it. I feel like it's very different on TikTok because there's

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not a consistent time. I usually just go ahead. I just pray to the TikTok gods.

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Am I a TikTok Lord? Sacrifice of Sim. It's going to humble me today, Lord. Please don't humble me

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today, TikTok Lord. And then I just go from there. I see what happens. Sometimes they'll give me a

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night, a good day. And then I think it too just boils down to what the audience is just feeling

479
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that hit share for you. They're for you page. Maybe the audience is really digging a Sims 4

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TV news or an update about the base game update. Once the algorithm or whatever you want to call it,

481
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notice that more people are actually sticking around for your content. Then I think it goes to

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another tier of another tier where it's like they'll push it out to 2,000 more people and then

483
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see how that engagement works for you. And then before you know it, you're at like 100,000 and

484
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then it's like, wow, this is crazy. And then it makes you want to keep posting more videos.

485
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Yeah. It's like a dicting almost. It is. It is. It's like a good video. Gotta make the next one.

486
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Yeah. I'm not going to say gambling at a slot machine. It feels like that sometimes though.

487
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But you're like, all right. It's like, oh, I just won. I just won 20 bucks. I'll

488
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we see if I can win that other 20, which actually leads me to my next question. So thank you, Nard

489
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for setting me up. Okay. We all have had a one episode or one video

490
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blow up. What did you, what was the video and what did you do after?

491
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Oh, I, well, I can go first. Yeah. I had a video. It was like last month or so. And it was just,

492
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I knew that the baby update was coming out. So I thought, I should make a hundred baby home.

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And I'm like, well, I'll try to do as much like landscaping right away. So when people

494
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pop on the video, since landscaping is one of those things that kind of freaks people out,

495
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I'm going to start right away with the landscaping. And it has like

496
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one point something million. And that was my first and so far only, but I'm getting close

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to my second million video. But it was, I went from 2000 followers from this to 10,000 in like

498
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a matter of like a week or two. It was just insane. I would have never seen such like a jump

499
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like that. But yeah, it was just a speed build. And so that was my first speed builder of this

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kind. And I'm like, okay, this is what I'm doing. I'm doing these speed builds. So it felt really good.

501
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That's awesome. Congrats. Congrats. Thank you. First milli.

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Exciting. And I'm ready to be home. I mean, I've been humbled a couple times since I'm,

503
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but I'm like, don't get like, don't let it get to my head. Because I know if I'm, if I'm

504
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starting to get confident, that's when the, that's the views plummet. But you deserve it. Because I

505
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think when everybody hits their first viral moment, they should just embrace it and enjoy it. Because

506
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I think a lot of especially now when I even hit like 200, 300,000, it's like, it doesn't phase me as much anymore.

507
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Yeah. So I kind of miss like embracing those milestones because it is a rarity. And that's still to this day of like pushing out something that you think is good.

508
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And it gets like a million views, especially on a platform like TikTok. So when you do just embrace it, enjoy it because I think again, the audience is so different every day.

509
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Like one day, the right audience is on the platform. So when you push your content out, it's gonna, it's gonna do, it's gonna perform well. So yeah, congrats and enjoy it.

510
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Thank you. Thank you. And I knew with the new updates and the new path coming out, this is the time to post because people are, they're thinking about The Sims again.

511
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There hasn't been a big update for a while. So I think a lot of people stop playing and they're like, oh, I'm gonna play again. Let me look at some content.

512
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Yeah, that's true. And we have a lot more new simmers too because the base game is free. So a lot of them now are wanting to know like how to how to add mods and what's a good pack to get.

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Because when there's these discounts is when I like to repost my top 10 game packs or top 50 EPs or whatever, how many ever we have now. So just to remember that there's a new audience now.

514
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We kind of have to somewhat kind of cater to them too because they're new.

515
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I've been trying to do more base game builds right now too since so many people don't have packs. I did not realize how many people are simply base game players.

516
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Or I mean, Instagram is so saturated with people that have like a wealth of knowledge on how to play build. And so whenever I post something there, it's like, people are like, oh, this is nice, but I already know how to do this.

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They would see that. But TikTok, I'm getting real players that are like, wow, I didn't know you could make quarter tiles on the floor. And something that I thought was, I don't want to say obvious, but I just like I'm not going to post that because everyone already knows.

518
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But yeah, it's like exciting to I can finally share knowledge here instead of Instagram where all of my friends and stuff, they already know how to do all of this stuff.

519
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Yo, what about you Renee? My first viral video was, do you remember the, it was the TikTok audio that was, oh God, the unexpected it was like the little song from one of those kids TV shows is International Super Spy.

520
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I did that and posted like the words on top of it that was like simmers when they only make blue suburban and then I mentioned that I do true crime builds.

521
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So that got like a million views in like a couple hours.

522
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And it was wild and I being the absolute fucking dumbass that I am didn't really do anything with it. Like I was still at that point that was still when I was like really curating my content.

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And I just continued posting on my content and it was posting like things from my brief history builds. I always do like an intro that kind of gives like an overview of whatever it is that I'm talking about in that episode.

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And I just kept posting those and they did shit, honestly. And it wasn't until I started doing things like roasting your builds or names as Sims names as Sims is one that I used to do a long time ago where I would create Sims based on names and like talk about what I thought that name was but like not in a nice way.

525
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Like Tiffany is like the meanest person you'll ever meet in your life and then I would make Tiffany in the Sims. And it wasn't until I started doing that really sarcastic funny stuff that I started getting consistent views and consistent amounts of followers starting to come to my channel.

526
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So yeah.

527
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Same with me like I did.

528
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The grilled cheese aspiration was like my very first viral video on tip time.

529
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Which was crazy. Yeah, it wasn't like me telling you about it. It was me telling a story about a grilled cheese at it.

530
00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:24,400
Yep.

531
00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:30,640
And everybody A was like, oh my God, I want a grilled cheese now or why does that do look like that?

532
00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:34,240
And then it was just like so many different random comments.

533
00:52:34,240 --> 00:52:46,320
And I think that's kind of how I think honestly, I don't know if you guys can agree, but I think the TikTok audience kind of shaped how I started doing my content.

534
00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:58,480
Like now every time I say Dag Dag, the reason why I say Dag Dag at the end of every video is because I said Dag Dag out on another viral video that I did where the Sim was drowning in first person.

535
00:52:58,480 --> 00:52:58,880
Yeah.

536
00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:06,720
I think I said Dag Dag on that one or whatever. There was another video that went viral that when I said Dag Dag and all the comments, everybody's like Dag Dag Dag Dag.

537
00:53:06,720 --> 00:53:07,520
So yeah.

538
00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:16,560
So I started making that a thing because I think like the audience is kind of shaping me into like what kind of content that kind of they kind of like from me.

539
00:53:16,560 --> 00:53:16,880
Yeah.

540
00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:18,080
I guess so.

541
00:53:18,080 --> 00:53:21,040
It's almost like having inside jokes with your audience.

542
00:53:21,040 --> 00:53:21,600
Yeah, with your audience.

543
00:53:21,600 --> 00:53:25,680
People expect certain things to like come out of your mouth or be in your videos.

544
00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:34,880
Like my Sim know that I use my channel mascot. She's like this the most disgusting Sim you'll see in your entire life, but people love seeing her in videos.

545
00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:35,120
Yeah.

546
00:53:35,120 --> 00:53:37,840
So that's a cool thing too.

547
00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:38,160
Yeah.

548
00:53:39,520 --> 00:53:39,920
I love it.

549
00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:46,240
Now I have to ask you have you had burnout because you're chasing for the million another million dollar.

550
00:53:46,240 --> 00:53:48,160
Sorry, not million dollar million view.

551
00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:50,480
No, we chase it for the million dollars.

552
00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:52,000
Yeah, I bring that up.

553
00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:53,280
I'm trying.

554
00:53:55,840 --> 00:53:58,880
But you're chasing for the million view, not dollar.

555
00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:00,880
I mean, I guess exactly both for some people.

556
00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:06,800
And you don't get it the next time because we talked about I take talk humbles you.

557
00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:11,360
Any any light on like how it feels to get humbled.

558
00:54:11,360 --> 00:54:15,120
Do you are you crushed or are you just like it's a bad day?

559
00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:20,880
Well, for me, I'm since I'm like still new to posting like regularly.

560
00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:21,760
I'm not crushed yet.

561
00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:22,960
I'm almost expecting it.

562
00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:26,320
I'm still in that point where if a video does well, I'm surprised.

563
00:54:26,320 --> 00:54:32,880
So and it's actually it's just I've said before so much easier than Instagram that I am not burnout.

564
00:54:32,880 --> 00:54:40,080
I'm if anything, I'm like, oh my God, I have all this time now because I'm going to shift my focus to TikTok less on Instagram.

565
00:54:40,720 --> 00:54:45,040
And still posting regularly, but I'm like there's so much less pressure on TikTok.

566
00:54:45,040 --> 00:54:46,800
I mean, I might get over that.

567
00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:51,360
I don't know, but it's for me less stressful than Instagram.

568
00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:53,280
I love it.

569
00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:54,560
Hey, Piper today.

570
00:54:54,560 --> 00:54:55,040
How about you?

571
00:54:55,040 --> 00:54:59,680
I mean, I've definitely been burnt out, but not because of TikTok.

572
00:54:59,680 --> 00:55:04,720
Like I said, I work like a normal human day job and it's very stressful.

573
00:55:04,720 --> 00:55:06,160
My day job is very stressful.

574
00:55:06,160 --> 00:55:12,720
So sometimes there are days where I get home and you know, I have my weekend and I'm like, I don't really like filming content this weekend.

575
00:55:12,720 --> 00:55:15,520
I'm just exhausted from the week and I don't want to do it.

576
00:55:16,560 --> 00:55:17,120
So I don't.

577
00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:18,320
Good for you.

578
00:55:18,320 --> 00:55:19,280
Yeah, good for you.

579
00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:26,160
I don't. The thing and I don't get crushed by I get annoyed when I get when I post a video and I'm like, this is going to do great.

580
00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:27,520
And then it gets like 12 years.

581
00:55:28,320 --> 00:55:36,240
But at the end of the day for me, TikTok and creating Sims content is 100% my hobby and nothing more than that.

582
00:55:36,720 --> 00:55:37,520
It is fun.

583
00:55:37,520 --> 00:55:40,640
And the day it stops being fun is the day I stop making content.

584
00:55:41,840 --> 00:55:43,760
I think I do say the last week.

585
00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:48,800
So I think that's amazing advice because when it starts turning into a job,

586
00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:52,880
unless you want it to treat it as a job, because that's different.

587
00:55:52,880 --> 00:55:55,440
If you want to treat it as a job, you have to treat it as a job.

588
00:55:55,440 --> 00:56:03,280
If it's a hobby, treat it as a hobby, but do not blur the lines of both because if it's a hobby turning into a job, you're going to fucking hate your life.

589
00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:07,680
And if it's a job turning into a hobby, you'll be like, why am I not making the millions?

590
00:56:07,680 --> 00:56:18,560
So you have to pick a lane and it doesn't matter which lane you go in, but just know if it's a hobby, make sure to treat it as a hobby versus a job.

591
00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:20,240
Nard, how about you?

592
00:56:20,880 --> 00:56:30,240
I would probably say I've been probably burnt out a few times because when I first started on TikTok, I was pushing out maybe three videos a day.

593
00:56:31,280 --> 00:56:32,400
I was crazy with it.

594
00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:33,840
And I have a full-time job too.

595
00:56:33,840 --> 00:56:38,720
I mean, what I do on my Narvillian channel is kind of what I do for other clients too.

596
00:56:38,720 --> 00:56:40,320
Like I provide content for them.

597
00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:42,240
I do photography.

598
00:56:42,240 --> 00:56:46,080
I do a lot of video work, which sometimes require me to travel.

599
00:56:46,080 --> 00:56:49,360
So I'm always at my desk either editing video, editing photos.

600
00:56:49,360 --> 00:56:55,120
So when I'm not doing that, I'm sprinkling in times where I can kind of create my own content.

601
00:56:55,120 --> 00:57:03,840
So there's one point where I might be doing a little too much of just the production of creating content and not really sitting back and enjoying it.

602
00:57:03,840 --> 00:57:06,160
Because my thing is I love creating content.

603
00:57:06,160 --> 00:57:07,280
I love storytelling.

604
00:57:07,280 --> 00:57:11,280
So what I like to do and the reason why I started creating content based around The Sims 4

605
00:57:11,920 --> 00:57:16,640
is because at the end of the day, I like to be able to just sit back and just watch all the content that I've done.

606
00:57:16,640 --> 00:57:18,800
Because I'm like, honestly, a fan of my own work.

607
00:57:19,360 --> 00:57:20,480
So being able to go back.

608
00:57:20,480 --> 00:57:27,360
And then the perk of that is if I can have five or six other people that enjoy the work too, I feel like I'm winning.

609
00:57:27,360 --> 00:57:31,760
So but then there's moments where I don't think it's the views that burn me out.

610
00:57:31,760 --> 00:57:41,200
I think it's just more of like, OK, wait a minute, I'm doing I'm spending way too much time on working for clients and then working for to stay relevant in The Sims 4 community.

611
00:57:41,200 --> 00:57:43,120
But I'm not really taking care of myself.

612
00:57:43,120 --> 00:57:50,480
Like meaning like I'm not taking breaks from like working with clients and working with, you know, pushing out content.

613
00:57:50,480 --> 00:57:52,240
Because, you know, content is time consuming, too.

614
00:57:52,240 --> 00:57:57,680
Like you can spend four or five hours working on just one video, but it doesn't stop there.

615
00:57:57,680 --> 00:58:01,280
You know, it's like once you're done with that video, now you got to go and do the same thing.

616
00:58:02,400 --> 00:58:06,000
The same day, probably just to stay current relevant.

617
00:58:06,800 --> 00:58:08,400
So yeah, burnout is pretty crazy.

618
00:58:08,400 --> 00:58:10,720
I mean, I've been in it for like two and a half years.

619
00:58:10,720 --> 00:58:15,760
And so sometimes you will burn out if you're not careful.

620
00:58:15,760 --> 00:58:20,960
And sometimes that burnout can be because you've got other things in your life that you have to deal with, too.

621
00:58:20,960 --> 00:58:23,920
So that doesn't help as a content creator.

622
00:58:23,920 --> 00:58:29,440
And if you don't have a solid support group, then it's going to be even worse.

623
00:58:29,440 --> 00:58:31,440
Fortunately, I have a great support group.

624
00:58:31,440 --> 00:58:34,480
So all it just takes is for me to be vocal around my support group.

625
00:58:35,600 --> 00:58:37,520
And I'm a little bit better.

626
00:58:37,520 --> 00:58:40,960
But short to be long story short.

627
00:58:40,960 --> 00:58:42,400
Um, yeah, yeah.

628
00:58:43,520 --> 00:58:44,880
Burnouts real folks.

629
00:58:44,880 --> 00:58:46,320
Burnout is real.

630
00:58:46,320 --> 00:58:47,200
Take care of yourself.

631
00:58:47,840 --> 00:58:49,920
And honestly, just enjoy the journey.

632
00:58:49,920 --> 00:58:53,840
Like when you hit your first million, like, like just embrace it.

633
00:58:53,840 --> 00:58:58,560
Enjoy it because it's a fun feeling at first when you first hit that one million.

634
00:58:58,560 --> 00:59:02,480
It's like, I wish I could relive the moments when I hit my first million.

635
00:59:02,480 --> 00:59:05,200
Yeah, just sitting there and watching it go up.

636
00:59:05,200 --> 00:59:07,680
Just why you like it.

637
00:59:07,680 --> 00:59:09,040
It's crazy.

638
00:59:09,040 --> 00:59:09,760
It's crazy.

639
00:59:09,760 --> 00:59:11,040
Um, so yeah.

640
00:59:11,760 --> 00:59:16,000
But you get over the burnout and then you're back to it 100% and it's fun again.

641
00:59:16,560 --> 00:59:16,800
Yeah.

642
00:59:16,800 --> 00:59:19,760
So well, thank you everybody for sharing.

643
00:59:19,760 --> 00:59:26,320
I just wanted to ask about burnout because it's a question I get all the time is what do you do when you have burnout?

644
00:59:26,320 --> 00:59:28,080
And I would always say what's burnout?

645
00:59:28,080 --> 00:59:29,040
I've never had it.

646
00:59:29,040 --> 00:59:33,840
And then I had it really bad in January to the point that I considered what the fuck am I even doing?

647
00:59:33,840 --> 00:59:35,440
Like I'm just, I'm so tired.

648
00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:37,680
I am not sleeping.

649
00:59:38,240 --> 00:59:40,160
I had a really shitty job.

650
00:59:40,160 --> 00:59:43,280
I had a really toxic job that took a lot out of me.

651
00:59:43,840 --> 00:59:46,080
I literally changed the person who I was.

652
00:59:46,080 --> 00:59:49,120
I wouldn't even recognize myself in the mirror at the end.

653
00:59:49,120 --> 00:59:53,440
I would like, I was, it was fight or flight every day for me and I fought every day.

654
00:59:54,240 --> 00:59:55,520
It was absolutely terrible.

655
00:59:56,320 --> 00:59:59,520
I'm back into planning a wedding that's extremely stressful.

656
01:00:00,800 --> 01:00:02,640
I didn't have a really high paying job.

657
01:00:02,640 --> 01:00:04,240
My vendors don't care.

658
01:00:04,640 --> 01:00:08,240
They want money and they're like, well, I have rent due and they're like, we don't care.

659
01:00:08,240 --> 01:00:09,360
Like you need to start paying us.

660
01:00:09,360 --> 01:00:12,800
And it was just kind of like, like I do make money from this podcast, which is great.

661
01:00:12,800 --> 01:00:16,000
But like I hadn't made a little bit in a little while because I had a sponsor.

662
01:00:16,000 --> 01:00:21,200
So I was just like, oh my God, I don't like, I'm just like, I was banging my head against the fucking wall.

663
01:00:21,200 --> 01:00:24,640
And then I had mom K podcast friends.

664
01:00:24,640 --> 01:00:31,440
We did a podcast together about what it's like being burnt out.

665
01:00:31,440 --> 01:00:33,680
And at that time I was burnt out.

666
01:00:34,240 --> 01:00:38,640
I was cause I, I love by listeners.

667
01:00:38,640 --> 01:00:39,440
I love you guys.

668
01:00:39,440 --> 01:00:40,640
I love you guys so much.

669
01:00:40,640 --> 01:00:42,320
And I love you guys come up with ideas.

670
01:00:42,640 --> 01:00:47,440
But sometimes I get really stressed when you're like, well, why is my podcast being filmed three months from now?

671
01:00:47,440 --> 01:00:50,240
And then once it's filmed, why is it coming up six months from now?

672
01:00:50,240 --> 01:00:52,400
Why is it a nine month waiting period?

673
01:00:53,680 --> 01:00:55,040
You guys like my content.

674
01:00:55,040 --> 01:00:56,560
I give you podcasts every week.

675
01:00:56,560 --> 01:00:59,040
I it's a wait, it's a waiting period.

676
01:00:59,040 --> 01:01:06,480
I'm doing five podcasts this weekend as Nard said, support my fiance is currently in the other room,

677
01:01:07,120 --> 01:01:10,080
dead as a mouse because he doesn't want to make one sound.

678
01:01:10,080 --> 01:01:12,400
And when I podcast weekends, he leaves.

679
01:01:12,960 --> 01:01:19,280
Like I, he literally, he feels the need to not be here because he doesn't want to make a noise because he knows he can't.

680
01:01:19,280 --> 01:01:24,880
That's an extremely supportive partner who's supported me in every aspect.

681
01:01:24,880 --> 01:01:27,200
And I couldn't do this without him.

682
01:01:27,200 --> 01:01:30,000
But at the same time, burnout is real.

683
01:01:30,000 --> 01:01:35,120
And I can tell you my first season of podcast, I can't say anything about TikTok.

684
01:01:35,120 --> 01:01:37,920
I don't think I've had a TikTok go past 99 views.

685
01:01:37,920 --> 01:01:39,680
Like I'm going to be really honest with you.

686
01:01:40,640 --> 01:01:47,120
But like at the end of my first season, I was like number five, number six in Australia for video game podcast.

687
01:01:47,120 --> 01:01:47,920
I was fucking off.

688
01:01:47,920 --> 01:01:49,760
I have no idea how that happened.

689
01:01:49,760 --> 01:01:52,560
Still to this day, I have no idea how that happened and then it stopped.

690
01:01:52,560 --> 01:01:58,720
Because other podcasts come out, whatever, and then the views and listens who dropped.

691
01:01:58,720 --> 01:02:00,720
And I was like, whoa, why?

692
01:02:01,840 --> 01:02:06,640
And then they picked back up throughout the season because I had to, you know, mark it in other ways.

693
01:02:06,640 --> 01:02:08,560
But it was like all these free listens.

694
01:02:09,360 --> 01:02:12,240
And then I used to gauge my happiness on listens.

695
01:02:13,040 --> 01:02:21,360
And as I'm sure as we all have gaged our happiness on views, even at the beginning, because you'd be like, oh my God, like, I gotta maybe taste like such a good day.

696
01:02:21,360 --> 01:02:22,960
And sometimes I still catch myself.

697
01:02:22,960 --> 01:02:28,000
If I have a day where it's in the thousands of listens, I'll be like, oh, this is a great day.

698
01:02:28,000 --> 01:02:29,120
And then the next day I'll have one.

699
01:02:30,160 --> 01:02:32,240
So I would ask me to like, what's your range of listens?

700
01:02:32,240 --> 01:02:34,480
It's like zero into the thousands.

701
01:02:34,480 --> 01:02:35,840
I can't tell you.

702
01:02:35,840 --> 01:02:36,960
I cannot tell you.

703
01:02:37,360 --> 01:02:40,640
Like yesterday, I had no, I had no one listen to this podcast.

704
01:02:40,640 --> 01:02:45,440
But this morning I've already had about 300, which is pretty good for around this time.

705
01:02:45,440 --> 01:02:45,920
Right?

706
01:02:45,920 --> 01:02:48,800
But you kind of like, why?

707
01:02:48,800 --> 01:02:51,600
Why?

708
01:02:51,600 --> 01:02:54,720
So anyways, thank you for sharing.

709
01:02:54,720 --> 01:02:57,920
I just like to debunk burnout because everyone looks at us.

710
01:02:57,920 --> 01:03:06,240
They're like, you guys can't get burnout because you guys are living your dream, getting million dollar listen views, million views.

711
01:03:06,240 --> 01:03:09,760
And you're like, I live in, you guys are like, must be so happy.

712
01:03:09,760 --> 01:03:12,560
Well, it's because it's an extension of ourselves.

713
01:03:12,560 --> 01:03:13,040
Yeah.

714
01:03:13,040 --> 01:03:17,360
We put out and it's hard to not take something like no views personally.

715
01:03:17,360 --> 01:03:18,960
Like I do.

716
01:03:18,960 --> 01:03:19,200
Yeah.

717
01:03:19,200 --> 01:03:25,440
I try not to take these things personally, but like, you know, last year or two, you remember, Stacey, I came back from your podcast.

718
01:03:25,440 --> 01:03:30,960
I took a seven month break because of, I was doing like Twitch, Instagram, everything except for TikTok.

719
01:03:30,960 --> 01:03:40,720
And the burnout just hit me and I was taking everything so personally that I got really depressed and I just needed time off to find myself again.

720
01:03:40,720 --> 01:03:47,280
Remember who I was because I wasn't living my life. I was living my life to post. I'd get up.

721
01:03:47,280 --> 01:03:48,640
What's my post? What's this?

722
01:03:48,640 --> 01:03:52,560
And I mean, this was during pandemic a little bit after.

723
01:03:52,560 --> 01:03:55,920
So I'm inside all day focused on my computer.

724
01:03:55,920 --> 01:03:58,080
I work until I go to sleep.

725
01:03:58,080 --> 01:04:00,400
And then I'm like, what is my life?

726
01:04:00,400 --> 01:04:01,120
What am I doing?

727
01:04:01,120 --> 01:04:02,400
And then my posts wouldn't do well.

728
01:04:02,400 --> 01:04:10,560
I just, you have to remember to almost separate yourself, even though it is still an extension of you, your creativity, your like vision and to see people not really

729
01:04:10,560 --> 01:04:14,880
react the way you think it hurts. Like, you don't mean to have it hurt.

730
01:04:14,880 --> 01:04:19,120
Tell yourself it won't, but yeah, it's hard not to get a little upset about it.

731
01:04:19,920 --> 01:04:26,640
Right. As someone in the storyteller community on Instagram, you get zero of anything.

732
01:04:26,640 --> 01:04:31,760
Instagram does not help you. If anything, they hinder you because you have a heavy post and your stuff is not seen.

733
01:04:31,760 --> 01:04:33,680
And you just fucking bang your head.

734
01:04:33,680 --> 01:04:39,440
As Nart saying, like five, six hours, that's the same for any storytellers, but five, six hours.

735
01:04:39,440 --> 01:04:42,800
And you get no love, like absolutely no love.

736
01:04:42,800 --> 01:04:44,240
And you're like, well, why do I do this?

737
01:04:44,240 --> 01:04:47,200
And you, and you're like, but I love doing this.

738
01:04:47,200 --> 01:04:48,160
I do it for me.

739
01:04:48,160 --> 01:04:50,000
And you're like, are you doing it for yourself?

740
01:04:50,000 --> 01:04:51,280
Are you doing it for your readers?

741
01:04:51,280 --> 01:04:52,960
You just, it's like, literally, you're insane.

742
01:04:52,960 --> 01:04:55,280
Like you're literally just having these long conversations with yourself.

743
01:04:55,280 --> 01:04:59,360
And why I created this so we can, you know, we can chat.

744
01:04:59,360 --> 01:05:07,040
But now, if anyone else has any other, anything to add, I have another question, which comes down to the million dollar bag question.

745
01:05:07,040 --> 01:05:10,800
As that way came early.

746
01:05:10,800 --> 01:05:13,200
Clearly I have money on the brain this morning.

747
01:05:13,200 --> 01:05:15,680
I mean, who doesn't on a Saturday morning?

748
01:05:15,680 --> 01:05:16,880
You already know.

749
01:05:16,880 --> 01:05:17,440
Oh, yes.

750
01:05:18,320 --> 01:05:24,080
I mean, Nart MVP, it's like seven 30 in the morning, but he came at like six AM.

751
01:05:24,640 --> 01:05:26,960
At six AM, I was good.

752
01:05:26,960 --> 01:05:27,440
Yes.

753
01:05:28,000 --> 01:05:29,760
Six o two, six o two.

754
01:05:29,760 --> 01:05:30,640
I was a little late.

755
01:05:31,440 --> 01:05:32,560
I was very late.

756
01:05:32,560 --> 01:05:32,880
Yeah.

757
01:05:34,000 --> 01:05:34,720
But I made it.

758
01:05:34,720 --> 01:05:35,760
I was here.

759
01:05:35,760 --> 01:05:42,320
Yeah. Six AM this morning, I was like, oh, I still have like two hours to see you.

760
01:05:42,320 --> 01:05:46,480
To be fair, I didn't go to bed till like one because we went out last night for St. Pat's.

761
01:05:46,480 --> 01:05:50,080
And then I found this like, like we started getting into documentaries.

762
01:05:50,080 --> 01:05:52,960
Like we got to watch the Pornhub documentary on Netflix.

763
01:05:54,000 --> 01:05:55,120
We've been wanting to watch it too.

764
01:05:55,120 --> 01:05:56,000
It was really interesting.

765
01:05:56,000 --> 01:05:56,960
It's so good.

766
01:05:56,960 --> 01:05:57,680
It's extreme.

767
01:05:57,680 --> 01:06:00,160
I did not realize it was like based in Montreal.

768
01:06:00,160 --> 01:06:03,760
Like we were like, because we're like, we're like, we're like, we're pretty sure it's Canada.

769
01:06:03,760 --> 01:06:05,200
Like I'm pretty sure it's Toronto.

770
01:06:05,200 --> 01:06:06,080
And it's just Montreal.

771
01:06:06,080 --> 01:06:08,160
And I'm like, yeah, it's Montreal.

772
01:06:10,640 --> 01:06:12,400
Have you started it yet?

773
01:06:12,400 --> 01:06:13,680
So you said you've been watching it?

774
01:06:13,680 --> 01:06:13,920
Yeah.

775
01:06:13,920 --> 01:06:14,560
Yeah, we watched.

776
01:06:15,280 --> 01:06:15,440
Okay.

777
01:06:15,440 --> 01:06:18,000
Did they talk about where that little tune thing came from?

778
01:06:18,000 --> 01:06:19,360
Like the little intro song?

779
01:06:19,920 --> 01:06:21,920
They talked about the intro something.

780
01:06:21,920 --> 01:06:23,120
Now that I go to that website.

781
01:06:23,120 --> 01:06:24,720
No, no, nerds never been there.

782
01:06:24,720 --> 01:06:24,960
Yeah.

783
01:06:24,960 --> 01:06:26,480
I don't even know what that is.

784
01:06:26,480 --> 01:06:26,720
Yeah.

785
01:06:26,720 --> 01:06:27,840
He only uses looking whims.

786
01:06:27,840 --> 01:06:28,240
It's fine.

787
01:06:30,240 --> 01:06:30,720
Pretty much.

788
01:06:30,720 --> 01:06:32,080
The whims is by Pornhub.

789
01:06:32,080 --> 01:06:32,320
Yeah.

790
01:06:32,320 --> 01:06:37,840
No, they showed them playing it, but they didn't say where it came from.

791
01:06:37,840 --> 01:06:38,880
Oh, okay.

792
01:06:38,880 --> 01:06:40,480
Do you know where it came from?

793
01:06:40,480 --> 01:06:41,520
No, that's what I'm asking.

794
01:06:41,520 --> 01:06:42,000
Oh, fuck.

795
01:06:42,000 --> 01:06:43,040
I thought you were watching.

796
01:06:44,960 --> 01:06:48,480
I thought you were baiting me to be like, well, I made it with the company I worked for.

797
01:06:48,480 --> 01:06:50,880
I was like, that's how you were baiting me.

798
01:06:50,880 --> 01:06:51,600
It's all me.

799
01:06:51,600 --> 01:06:51,840
Yeah.

800
01:06:51,840 --> 01:06:54,960
No, I was thinking you knew since you were watching the documentary.

801
01:06:54,960 --> 01:06:59,920
They just talk about it being like how that like everybody knew the jingle and like, and

802
01:06:59,920 --> 01:07:04,320
they literally go down to they show multiple different sources of kids doing it and stuff.

803
01:07:04,320 --> 01:07:10,080
But it's definitely I'm at the part where it's kind of dark now where it's like anybody can

804
01:07:10,080 --> 01:07:14,080
put content on there, including content that should not be on there.

805
01:07:14,800 --> 01:07:17,680
So yeah, fun beginning.

806
01:07:18,400 --> 01:07:20,000
Jark middle dark.

807
01:07:20,000 --> 01:07:26,880
To be fair, I watched 30 minutes of it with my eyes open and then I watched 30 minutes of it listening.

808
01:07:26,880 --> 01:07:28,880
Oh, wow, is that graphic?

809
01:07:28,880 --> 01:07:30,480
They like to show image stuff.

810
01:07:30,480 --> 01:07:32,160
No, no, no, I was asleep.

811
01:07:32,160 --> 01:07:37,200
I was like, I need to watch this.

812
01:07:38,400 --> 01:07:40,880
I was like 30 minutes of like, I've got this.

813
01:07:40,880 --> 01:07:43,360
And then by like, what I am, I had the blanket over.

814
01:07:43,360 --> 01:07:46,960
I was like, okay, I thought you were thinking, oh, okay.

815
01:07:46,960 --> 01:07:50,560
I thought you were too much that you had to close your eyes during.

816
01:07:50,560 --> 01:07:55,280
No, no, I was listening with my eyes closed is code for in this house.

817
01:07:55,280 --> 01:07:56,880
I passed the fuck out.

818
01:07:58,880 --> 01:08:02,320
Anyway, so million dollar question.

819
01:08:02,960 --> 01:08:05,600
So I put this out as a question.

820
01:08:07,840 --> 01:08:09,600
What any question anyone want to ask?

821
01:08:09,600 --> 01:08:10,720
It was unanimous.

822
01:08:10,720 --> 01:08:14,080
Everyone's like, so what is the money roll in?

823
01:08:14,720 --> 01:08:15,280
It doesn't.

824
01:08:16,160 --> 01:08:16,480
Yeah.

825
01:08:16,480 --> 01:08:17,680
Yeah, I think it varies.

826
01:08:17,680 --> 01:08:20,000
It doesn't.

827
01:08:20,000 --> 01:08:25,440
Once you hit like 10,000 followers, you're able to start making pennies.

828
01:08:25,440 --> 01:08:27,360
You can make three cents a day.

829
01:08:29,120 --> 01:08:34,400
I think right now, this month so far, I've made like five, six, seven dollars.

830
01:08:34,400 --> 01:08:38,240
I do reels and make some money there.

831
01:08:38,240 --> 01:08:42,000
And I make more money on Instagram reels, but I get more views on TikTok.

832
01:08:43,840 --> 01:08:47,920
I made a whole $2 and 13 cents yesterday.

833
01:08:47,920 --> 01:08:49,600
Don't spend all my money.

834
01:08:49,600 --> 01:08:50,320
I know.

835
01:08:50,320 --> 01:08:50,960
I know.

836
01:08:50,960 --> 01:08:53,680
That could get you a coffee and a timbit.

837
01:08:53,680 --> 01:08:56,320
My coffee from dunks is five forty nine.

838
01:08:56,880 --> 01:08:57,760
You can pay for half.

839
01:08:59,120 --> 01:09:00,640
What the fuck do you get your coffees?

840
01:09:00,640 --> 01:09:03,040
It's like I get a lot of espresso shots.

841
01:09:03,040 --> 01:09:04,960
I have to be at work at six a.m.

842
01:09:04,960 --> 01:09:05,600
That's fair.

843
01:09:09,360 --> 01:09:13,120
I feel like it just varies because I'm also getting I know I don't know if you guys

844
01:09:13,120 --> 01:09:19,120
heard of TikTok posts, but apparently they'll select I don't know if it's random,

845
01:09:19,120 --> 01:09:24,160
but they'll select a video and put ads on it and you will get money.

846
01:09:24,160 --> 01:09:30,000
So one I think one month I made like seventy dollars just from a TikTok post.

847
01:09:30,000 --> 01:09:30,240
Yeah.

848
01:09:32,720 --> 01:09:38,160
In the month of January, I think I made that was a decent month.

849
01:09:38,160 --> 01:09:41,120
Actually, I made one hundred and twenty one dollars and sixty five cent.

850
01:09:41,120 --> 01:09:49,680
My biggest day that month was let's see.

851
01:09:49,680 --> 01:09:50,080
Wow.

852
01:09:50,080 --> 01:09:51,920
Nineteen dollars and seventy eight cent.

853
01:09:51,920 --> 01:09:53,440
And that was on New Year's Day.

854
01:09:53,440 --> 01:09:54,240
Oh, wow.

855
01:09:54,240 --> 01:09:54,880
One day.

856
01:09:54,880 --> 01:09:55,440
Yeah.

857
01:09:55,440 --> 01:09:56,240
And one day.

858
01:09:56,240 --> 01:10:00,880
And then in February, it hasn't calculated how much I made yet.

859
01:10:01,840 --> 01:10:09,120
But my biggest day in February was thirteen dollars and thirty seven cents.

860
01:10:09,120 --> 01:10:18,080
And currently in March, my biggest day was on the fifteenth, I think, thirteen dollars and thirty seven cents.

861
01:10:18,080 --> 01:10:18,720
Yeah.

862
01:10:18,720 --> 01:10:21,920
But I've also been kind of getting a little bit more views than usual.

863
01:10:21,920 --> 01:10:30,400
So I guess that helped in these last few months, but I've never gotten anything over like more than two hundred dollars a month.

864
01:10:30,400 --> 01:10:41,760
And my total so far, not including TikTok posts, has been I've earned twelve hundred one thousand two hundred twenty three dollars seventy six cents.

865
01:10:41,760 --> 01:10:43,680
OK, that's about where I am to.

866
01:10:43,680 --> 01:10:44,160
Yeah.

867
01:10:44,160 --> 01:10:44,480
Yeah.

868
01:10:44,480 --> 01:10:45,680
So it varies.

869
01:10:45,680 --> 01:10:54,080
It just depends on what the ass sense is and what how your views are doing that that day or month or whatever.

870
01:10:54,080 --> 01:10:56,880
So the more the stories is, don't quit your day job kids.

871
01:10:56,880 --> 01:11:03,200
Yeah, especially if you're not already like, I mean, hitting a million, you got to literally hit a million views per video.

872
01:11:03,200 --> 01:11:11,360
And there are people out there like celebrities and like legit TikTok influencers who actually started at the day at day one of of TikTok.

873
01:11:11,360 --> 01:11:16,480
And I'm pretty sure they're probably making some good money because it wasn't as saturated.

874
01:11:16,480 --> 01:11:20,400
The pot was very big for only a small amount of people.

875
01:11:20,400 --> 01:11:28,640
But now that a lot of people are now in that pot of TikTok funds, I think it's just harder to to put, you know, to share it.

876
01:11:28,640 --> 01:11:38,400
So, but I mean, I'll take my little my little Starbucks money, my little Krispy Kreme, you know, put some of this money towards the wedding venue deposit, you know.

877
01:11:38,400 --> 01:11:39,840
So it's all good.

878
01:11:39,840 --> 01:11:40,320
Yeah.

879
01:11:40,320 --> 01:11:47,600
And I mean, there are definitely like you can get sponsors to and that's where you're going to see the most money.

880
01:11:47,600 --> 01:11:56,720
You're going to see the most money, but you also have to be willing to put yourself out there and reach out to hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of companies

881
01:11:56,720 --> 01:12:01,200
to get one person to be like, oh, yeah, we would love to pay you to do that.

882
01:12:01,200 --> 01:12:04,640
And that's just not a thing that I care enough to do.

883
01:12:04,640 --> 01:12:10,640
I've had people reach out to me and I've taken sponsorships, but I just if they fall into my lap, they fall into my lap.

884
01:12:10,640 --> 01:12:12,320
And if they don't, they don't.

885
01:12:12,320 --> 01:12:13,200
Yeah.

886
01:12:13,200 --> 01:12:21,200
I couldn't agree. I got my first sponsorship back at Christmas time, which significantly helped because I had to have surgery and I was off work for multiple weeks,

887
01:12:21,200 --> 01:12:22,160
unpaid.

888
01:12:22,160 --> 01:12:25,440
So I work, old work decided to not pay me.

889
01:12:25,440 --> 01:12:29,040
So I had to wait eight weeks to get my EI sick pay.

890
01:12:29,040 --> 01:12:33,840
So I got I got a couple hundred bucks, but it's once it's done, it's like once that's done, it's done.

891
01:12:33,840 --> 01:12:42,960
It's a one time payout, which is really nice, but it's not like a I don't partner with them again until they want to send me something or they want me to talk about

892
01:12:42,960 --> 01:12:43,760
something.

893
01:12:43,760 --> 01:12:48,960
But like to get this, I had to I had to show them my Instagram insights.

894
01:12:48,960 --> 01:12:51,760
I had to share my podcast insights with them.

895
01:12:51,760 --> 01:12:54,880
I had to share every basically everything.

896
01:12:54,880 --> 01:12:57,760
And then they were like, yes or no.

897
01:12:57,760 --> 01:13:00,160
And then they kind of kind of go from there.

898
01:13:00,160 --> 01:13:09,120
But it's not like, I don't know, it's Louis Vuitton's not caught up, Stas even like, you know, we want you to start with plugging our product.

899
01:13:09,120 --> 01:13:09,200
Yeah.

900
01:13:09,200 --> 01:13:10,320
How is the pro?

901
01:13:10,320 --> 01:13:10,880
Oh, go ahead.

902
01:13:10,880 --> 01:13:11,280
No, go ahead.

903
01:13:11,280 --> 01:13:11,760
Go ahead.

904
01:13:11,760 --> 01:13:15,920
I was going to say, like, how is the what's the pressure like, no one like, okay, I have a sponsor now.

905
01:13:15,920 --> 01:13:19,120
Like, are you worried about your performance now?

906
01:13:19,120 --> 01:13:28,960
Like, that's my my issue is I'm scared that if I get if I get a sponsor, even though I'm there paying me, what if the tick tock just decided, yep, this is the day I'm a home but your video.

907
01:13:28,960 --> 01:13:34,080
They do because you have to make you have to mark that it that it's a sponsor.

908
01:13:34,080 --> 01:13:36,960
And it will purposely I score right by those.

909
01:13:36,960 --> 01:13:37,680
Yeah.

910
01:13:37,680 --> 01:13:38,240
Yeah.

911
01:13:38,240 --> 01:13:41,280
If I see something sponsored, I'm like, nope, I'm not watching that.

912
01:13:41,280 --> 01:13:42,080
Yeah.

913
01:13:42,080 --> 01:13:42,320
Yeah.

914
01:13:42,320 --> 01:13:44,880
Oh, I'm the same way I can actually.

915
01:13:44,880 --> 01:13:47,200
Okay, so I still have my shit here because I don't clean up my desk.

916
01:13:47,200 --> 01:13:50,480
I was part of the 12 days of cold eight cold eight for kids.

917
01:13:50,480 --> 01:13:58,480
I got kids shit because I fucking I with mom because like mom's follow my account because that's the age graphic.

918
01:13:58,480 --> 01:14:02,640
So I got like a bunch of kid toys and stuff that I was plugging because I was so confused.

919
01:14:02,640 --> 01:14:11,120
I was like, I swear I am not a role model for children, but it was but it was for moms to buy for their for their kids.

920
01:14:11,120 --> 01:14:11,840
Yeah.

921
01:14:11,840 --> 01:14:16,240
And I was like because it was like because I had like all the hashtags I had to use was like mom life,

922
01:14:17,360 --> 01:14:19,200
Christmas gift lists for mom.

923
01:14:19,200 --> 01:14:21,360
Like it was like what the fuck is this?

924
01:14:21,360 --> 01:14:23,040
Like this is not me at all.

925
01:14:23,040 --> 01:14:25,040
No, no, it's your audience though.

926
01:14:25,040 --> 01:14:34,640
But it's the audience because it's because it's your insights because it's women from 25 to 40 is that's that's who listens to this podcast.

927
01:14:34,640 --> 01:14:36,080
That's who follows me on Instagram.

928
01:14:36,800 --> 01:14:38,640
And it was cool again, but I'm just like.

929
01:14:39,200 --> 01:14:39,680
Yeah.

930
01:14:39,680 --> 01:14:46,240
I got one sponsored post like years ago, like two years ago on Instagram.

931
01:14:46,960 --> 01:14:52,080
And it was a game I've never played and they didn't send me a free copy or anything.

932
01:14:52,080 --> 01:14:57,200
They just sent me like footage and I had to edit it together and it felt so like disingenuous.

933
01:14:57,200 --> 01:15:01,360
I don't know how I explain it like I felt I'm like I don't ever want to do that again.

934
01:15:01,360 --> 01:15:07,760
And if I ever do a sponsored post the future, I hope it's something that I'm passionate about have used before and actually like it.

935
01:15:07,760 --> 01:15:11,920
And I'm like, I just feel like I'm putting this out there and I felt like I'm selling myself out in a weird way.

936
01:15:12,640 --> 01:15:14,880
Even though it wasn't everyone's like congratulations.

937
01:15:16,880 --> 01:15:18,880
It still didn't it felt wrong.

938
01:15:18,880 --> 01:15:20,320
I don't know how to explain that.

939
01:15:20,880 --> 01:15:21,600
Yeah.

940
01:15:21,600 --> 01:15:21,840
Yeah.

941
01:15:22,400 --> 01:15:26,400
I won't take a sponsorship if I can't be myself.

942
01:15:26,400 --> 01:15:33,680
So if I can't swear and be ridiculous and make fun of whatever it is that I'm doing, I won't take it.

943
01:15:33,680 --> 01:15:38,160
And if I don't like the product, I will not.

944
01:15:38,160 --> 01:15:40,720
I don't care how much money you're going to pay me.

945
01:15:40,720 --> 01:15:41,600
I'm not doing it.

946
01:15:42,720 --> 01:15:43,760
Dude, I got you.

947
01:15:43,760 --> 01:15:44,960
I keep getting coffee.

948
01:15:44,960 --> 01:15:47,920
This one coffee company in New York keeps reaching out to me.

949
01:15:47,920 --> 01:15:48,880
I want coffee.

950
01:15:48,880 --> 01:15:49,600
Send them to me.

951
01:15:49,600 --> 01:15:50,080
Why?

952
01:15:50,080 --> 01:15:54,800
The next time you're in a show, I'll fucking send them your way because they're like, we really like your podcast.

953
01:15:54,800 --> 01:15:56,320
We really like what you stand for.

954
01:15:56,320 --> 01:15:58,880
Can you like, but I don't drink coffee.

955
01:15:58,880 --> 01:16:01,520
I actively talk about how much I don't drink coffee.

956
01:16:01,520 --> 01:16:03,840
So you clearly don't listen to my content.

957
01:16:03,840 --> 01:16:06,560
I don't drink coffee, but I drink this.

958
01:16:06,560 --> 01:16:06,960
Yeah.

959
01:16:06,960 --> 01:16:15,360
Like I, unless it's literally water or whiskey, like those are the two things I drink.

960
01:16:15,360 --> 01:16:17,040
So you can put coffee and whiskey.

961
01:16:17,040 --> 01:16:17,520
That's right.

962
01:16:17,520 --> 01:16:17,680
Yeah.

963
01:16:17,680 --> 01:16:18,720
But I really don't.

964
01:16:20,720 --> 01:16:23,680
If I had to go, I couldn't fake it.

965
01:16:24,800 --> 01:16:27,520
You know what we could do is I could put on a blonde wig.

966
01:16:27,520 --> 01:16:30,480
And for the part where you have the coffee, I will do it.

967
01:16:30,480 --> 01:16:33,680
And you can just slice my face over yours and no one will know.

968
01:16:33,680 --> 01:16:34,720
They'll have no idea.

969
01:16:34,720 --> 01:16:35,840
No one will know.

970
01:16:35,840 --> 01:16:36,240
Yeah.

971
01:16:36,240 --> 01:16:36,960
Be big.

972
01:16:36,960 --> 01:16:37,680
Yeah.

973
01:16:37,680 --> 01:16:39,280
Just be a little extra bubbly.

974
01:16:39,280 --> 01:16:40,800
They say, hi, I'm Stati.

975
01:16:40,800 --> 01:16:42,000
Look at me drinking coffee.

976
01:16:42,880 --> 01:16:44,080
I love coffee so much.

977
01:16:44,080 --> 01:16:44,960
I love coffee.

978
01:16:44,960 --> 01:16:46,000
Look at my giant butt.

979
01:16:50,000 --> 01:16:50,880
But I get it.

980
01:16:50,880 --> 01:16:54,160
Like I am like, even if it's a good payout, I can't sit there.

981
01:16:54,160 --> 01:16:56,080
It's because he's had to sell my soul out.

982
01:16:56,080 --> 01:16:58,640
I'm just waiting for Adobe at this point being like Adobe.

983
01:16:58,640 --> 01:17:00,080
Adobe would be dope.

984
01:17:00,080 --> 01:17:03,520
Oh, like please help me pay for this fucking,

985
01:17:03,520 --> 01:17:05,920
but I pay for every month to have everything.

986
01:17:05,920 --> 01:17:06,560
Please.

987
01:17:07,440 --> 01:17:08,400
I'll do that.

988
01:17:08,400 --> 01:17:10,480
Or anything, Sailor Moon.

989
01:17:10,480 --> 01:17:13,920
I'm hoping to one day get like some Sailor Moon shit or some Batman

990
01:17:13,920 --> 01:17:18,000
because I just, I applied for one yesterday for the new Batman movie coming out.

991
01:17:18,000 --> 01:17:21,040
And I was like, cool, send me some stuff and I'll absolutely talk about it

992
01:17:21,040 --> 01:17:22,480
because I'm a huge fucking nerd.

993
01:17:23,040 --> 01:17:24,640
That's the stuff I want to get.

994
01:17:24,640 --> 01:17:27,600
Don't get me your green matcha coffee.

995
01:17:28,320 --> 01:17:29,600
Don't get me.

996
01:17:29,600 --> 01:17:30,400
I don't know.

997
01:17:30,400 --> 01:17:33,680
I got bracelets made from seashells.

998
01:17:34,240 --> 01:17:34,720
Wow.

999
01:17:34,720 --> 01:17:35,520
Cause I'm like.

1000
01:17:35,520 --> 01:17:36,240
Look at you.

1001
01:17:36,240 --> 01:17:36,640
Wow.

1002
01:17:36,640 --> 01:17:37,120
Yeah.

1003
01:17:37,120 --> 01:17:41,840
So I, so you saying brands just reach out to you because I'm, I'm new, like, I'm not going to say new,

1004
01:17:41,840 --> 01:17:44,560
but I don't get a lot of like brand.

1005
01:17:44,560 --> 01:17:47,920
So are you guys just searching for or are you, or people hitting you guys up?

1006
01:17:47,920 --> 01:17:51,280
So people will email me, but it'll be like the most random though.

1007
01:17:51,280 --> 01:17:53,760
Like they're not even looking at my content.

1008
01:17:53,760 --> 01:17:55,440
So it's like not genuine.

1009
01:17:55,440 --> 01:17:59,520
With RSS, I have enough listens that every

1010
01:17:59,520 --> 01:18:05,920
day or every month that I kind of, they push out to their sponsors that they, they'll be like,

1011
01:18:06,480 --> 01:18:12,800
so I'm part of, I think it's called pod, pod sponsors or podcaster sponsors.

1012
01:18:13,440 --> 01:18:15,440
And I've registered with them.

1013
01:18:15,440 --> 01:18:16,880
I meet a lot of their requirements.

1014
01:18:16,880 --> 01:18:17,760
They'll send me stuff.

1015
01:18:17,760 --> 01:18:22,640
I have the ability to reject, but I think after 10 rejections, I'm no longer part of it.

1016
01:18:23,280 --> 01:18:26,400
That's how I got the cold gate day of Christmas with butterly.

1017
01:18:26,400 --> 01:18:30,800
I just actually happened to work out that they're also my home.

1018
01:18:30,800 --> 01:18:33,760
They're also where I live, where the head offices, 10 minutes away.

1019
01:18:33,760 --> 01:18:36,560
So when I signed my contract, I actually went in in person.

1020
01:18:36,560 --> 01:18:37,600
Oh, cool.

1021
01:18:37,600 --> 01:18:38,160
I was like, cool.

1022
01:18:38,160 --> 01:18:38,640
Yeah.

1023
01:18:38,640 --> 01:18:42,400
So that was, that was another main reason they picked me because we're in the same city.

1024
01:18:42,400 --> 01:18:46,720
So postage is not fucking hard and it's a lot of Canadian products.

1025
01:18:46,720 --> 01:18:48,560
Put me up with some cold gate, girl.

1026
01:18:48,560 --> 01:18:50,560
Yo, do you want my KT1?

1027
01:18:50,560 --> 01:18:52,560
Let me get that mint.

1028
01:18:52,560 --> 01:18:54,000
I want some mint.

1029
01:18:54,000 --> 01:18:56,480
Well, you know what?

1030
01:18:56,480 --> 01:18:58,800
I'll give you this cake.

1031
01:18:58,800 --> 01:19:00,320
I'll give you the kids one.

1032
01:19:00,320 --> 01:19:01,120
And you know what?

1033
01:19:01,120 --> 01:19:01,920
I think you're so smart.

1034
01:19:01,920 --> 01:19:05,680
You can take the toothbrush, the Barbies.

1035
01:19:05,680 --> 01:19:07,120
You haven't opened it yet?

1036
01:19:07,120 --> 01:19:07,920
I don't know.

1037
01:19:07,920 --> 01:19:09,760
Why do you not use that every day?

1038
01:19:09,760 --> 01:19:10,480
No, no, I did.

1039
01:19:10,480 --> 01:19:10,800
I did.

1040
01:19:10,800 --> 01:19:12,960
I had to open it for the photo.

1041
01:19:12,960 --> 01:19:16,320
But it's this 40 bucks, man.

1042
01:19:16,320 --> 01:19:17,680
Does it play?

1043
01:19:17,680 --> 01:19:18,720
What song does it play?

1044
01:19:18,720 --> 01:19:19,040
Yeah.

1045
01:19:19,920 --> 01:19:21,200
It doesn't play a song, but it is a lot of work.

1046
01:19:21,200 --> 01:19:22,480
What do you mean it doesn't play a song?

1047
01:19:22,480 --> 01:19:23,200
Hold on.

1048
01:19:23,200 --> 01:19:23,520
Hold on.

1049
01:19:23,520 --> 01:19:25,760
I have two brushes that play music.

1050
01:19:25,760 --> 01:19:26,240
Yeah.

1051
01:19:26,240 --> 01:19:26,560
Yeah.

1052
01:19:26,560 --> 01:19:27,360
For two minutes.

1053
01:19:27,360 --> 01:19:28,960
So the kids know how long to brush.

1054
01:19:28,960 --> 01:19:29,600
OK.

1055
01:19:29,600 --> 01:19:30,640
I knew one of those.

1056
01:19:30,640 --> 01:19:31,040
Right?

1057
01:19:31,040 --> 01:19:31,440
No.

1058
01:19:31,440 --> 01:19:32,000
That's what's up.

1059
01:19:32,000 --> 01:19:33,360
They need to make adult versions.

1060
01:19:33,360 --> 01:19:33,920
I know.

1061
01:19:33,920 --> 01:19:35,120
I didn't know they did that now.

1062
01:19:35,120 --> 01:19:36,480
I think this was just electric.

1063
01:19:36,480 --> 01:19:38,560
It's just, it literally just vibrates.

1064
01:19:38,560 --> 01:19:41,520
Well, Colby, you're missing out on an opportunity

1065
01:19:41,520 --> 01:19:43,200
playing some Barbie music on there.

1066
01:19:43,200 --> 01:19:45,840
Well, because I had the Justin Bieber one when I, like,

1067
01:19:45,840 --> 01:19:47,120
I used to buy that chip for, yeah,

1068
01:19:47,120 --> 01:19:48,800
because they would literally play you a song.

1069
01:19:48,800 --> 01:19:49,120
Yeah.

1070
01:19:49,120 --> 01:19:49,680
And you have to listen to it.

1071
01:19:49,680 --> 01:19:50,400
That's crazy.

1072
01:19:50,400 --> 01:19:50,640
Yeah.

1073
01:19:50,640 --> 01:19:52,400
I did not know that stuff existed.

1074
01:19:52,400 --> 01:19:53,120
OK.

1075
01:19:53,120 --> 01:19:53,520
Yeah.

1076
01:19:53,520 --> 01:19:54,720
They need to do that for a faucet.

1077
01:19:54,720 --> 01:19:56,800
So when you can, I know how long to wash my hands for it,

1078
01:19:56,800 --> 01:19:57,040
too.

1079
01:19:57,040 --> 01:19:57,520
Oh, yeah.

1080
01:19:57,520 --> 01:19:59,120
You want to play some music, you know, stops?

1081
01:19:59,120 --> 01:20:00,880
Instead of, like, me singing Happy Birthday,

1082
01:20:00,880 --> 01:20:02,640
finally, everyone knew the Happy Birthday song.

1083
01:20:02,640 --> 01:20:04,640
I know I was singing Happy Birthday with the Panini.

1084
01:20:04,640 --> 01:20:06,480
As I'm no longer calling it the Panini.

1085
01:20:06,480 --> 01:20:07,280
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1086
01:20:07,280 --> 01:20:09,280
At work, we had a list in the bathroom,

1087
01:20:09,280 --> 01:20:12,320
like, stapled to the mirror that had all the songs

1088
01:20:12,320 --> 01:20:15,120
that you could sing to wash your hands for two minutes.

1089
01:20:15,120 --> 01:20:16,720
And I was like, oh, OK.

1090
01:20:16,720 --> 01:20:18,480
Like, so I just did a different song from the list

1091
01:20:18,480 --> 01:20:18,960
every single time.

1092
01:20:18,960 --> 01:20:20,720
Oh, that's cool.

1093
01:20:20,720 --> 01:20:22,000
The way to be creative with it.

1094
01:20:22,000 --> 01:20:23,040
Yeah.

1095
01:20:23,040 --> 01:20:23,520
That's what's up.

1096
01:20:23,520 --> 01:20:26,480
But, sorry, to answer your question,

1097
01:20:26,480 --> 01:20:32,160
because I've reached so much followers and listens for RSS,

1098
01:20:32,160 --> 01:20:35,520
I have the opportunity for sponsors to come out to me.

1099
01:20:35,520 --> 01:20:35,840
Oh, yeah.

1100
01:20:35,840 --> 01:20:40,240
I have never reached out to anybody to be honest with you.

1101
01:20:40,240 --> 01:20:42,080
I don't know who would want to.

1102
01:20:42,080 --> 01:20:43,840
This is a very niche podcast.

1103
01:20:43,840 --> 01:20:44,320
True.

1104
01:20:44,320 --> 01:20:45,040
Yeah.

1105
01:20:45,040 --> 01:20:48,240
Unless it's Sims-related, which we all know that DaddyAA will

1106
01:20:48,240 --> 01:20:51,200
never sponsor me because I bash them all the time.

1107
01:20:51,200 --> 01:20:54,640
Do they sponsor many people?

1108
01:20:54,640 --> 01:20:57,520
I just did a whole wave of sponsorships.

1109
01:20:57,520 --> 01:20:58,480
I feel like they don't.

1110
01:20:58,480 --> 01:21:00,320
Because they have the whole creators program.

1111
01:21:00,320 --> 01:21:00,800
They do.

1112
01:21:00,800 --> 01:21:01,300
Yeah.

1113
01:21:01,300 --> 01:21:03,040
And they don't need to sponsor those people.

1114
01:21:03,040 --> 01:21:04,480
They just give them stuff.

1115
01:21:04,480 --> 01:21:05,280
Yeah, exactly.

1116
01:21:05,280 --> 01:21:07,840
And I got rejected, not once.

1117
01:21:07,840 --> 01:21:08,320
Twice.

1118
01:21:08,320 --> 01:21:09,600
Oh, man.

1119
01:21:09,600 --> 01:21:10,480
Mine is pending.

1120
01:21:10,480 --> 01:21:11,920
I'm still waiting for my rejection.

1121
01:21:11,920 --> 01:21:13,600
Mine's been pending for like a year and a half.

1122
01:21:13,600 --> 01:21:14,560
What's this brand called?

1123
01:21:14,560 --> 01:21:15,200
It's called what?

1124
01:21:15,200 --> 01:21:15,920
What's that brand called?

1125
01:21:15,920 --> 01:21:16,880
EA Creator.

1126
01:21:16,880 --> 01:21:17,680
EA Creator.

1127
01:21:17,680 --> 01:21:18,160
Oh, yeah.

1128
01:21:18,160 --> 01:21:18,660
Yeah.

1129
01:21:18,660 --> 01:21:19,160
Yeah.

1130
01:21:19,160 --> 01:21:20,160
I'm still pending.

1131
01:21:20,160 --> 01:21:20,880
I'm still pending.

1132
01:21:20,880 --> 01:21:22,000
Yeah, still pending, too.

1133
01:21:22,000 --> 01:21:22,500
Yeah.

1134
01:21:22,500 --> 01:21:25,600
I'm an American, so I'm like, I'm probably the lowest.

1135
01:21:25,600 --> 01:21:26,320
I mean, I get it.

1136
01:21:26,320 --> 01:21:29,440
If I'm losing out to people in other countries to make sure

1137
01:21:29,440 --> 01:21:32,480
they have their say, I'm like, I'll find that.

1138
01:21:32,480 --> 01:21:33,120
Yeah.

1139
01:21:33,120 --> 01:21:34,720
It's a Canadian white girl.

1140
01:21:34,720 --> 01:21:36,720
I buy a couple of barrels.

1141
01:21:36,720 --> 01:21:38,320
Yeah.

1142
01:21:38,320 --> 01:21:42,840
But that's how you have to make money is other ways of doing stuff.

1143
01:21:42,840 --> 01:21:43,680
And it takes a lot of time.

1144
01:21:43,680 --> 01:21:46,000
This is not just like you were like, I'm going to start a podcast.

1145
01:21:46,000 --> 01:21:46,680
I'm going to get a sponsor.

1146
01:21:46,680 --> 01:21:48,920
This takes years.

1147
01:21:48,920 --> 01:21:50,600
108 episodes in.

1148
01:21:50,600 --> 01:21:51,600
108 episodes in.

1149
01:21:51,600 --> 01:21:55,480
So anyway, does anyone else have anything to add before we move on

1150
01:21:55,480 --> 01:21:56,480
to the next question?

1151
01:21:56,480 --> 01:21:56,980
Perfect.

1152
01:21:56,980 --> 01:21:58,480
None of us get paid.

1153
01:21:58,480 --> 01:21:59,480
No.

1154
01:21:59,480 --> 01:22:01,480
Yeah, we're not making a lot of money.

1155
01:22:01,480 --> 01:22:01,980
OK.

1156
01:22:01,980 --> 01:22:06,480
But again, to debunk it, because everyone's like, so I started to think you got a podcast.

1157
01:22:06,480 --> 01:22:07,480
It's shut up.

1158
01:22:07,480 --> 01:22:09,480
I'm like, yeah, but my landlord still wants my rent every month.

1159
01:22:09,480 --> 01:22:09,980
Yeah.

1160
01:22:09,980 --> 01:22:10,480
Doesn't give him a place.

1161
01:22:10,480 --> 01:22:12,480
He don't give off off.

1162
01:22:12,480 --> 01:22:16,480
But the cool thing is, though, is that you're not going to get a sponsor.

1163
01:22:16,480 --> 01:22:22,240
He don't give off off, but the cool thing is, though, is we at least get a little bit

1164
01:22:22,240 --> 01:22:27,240
of change just to post on a platform that maybe is a large percentage of people that

1165
01:22:27,240 --> 01:22:28,880
are not able to make money.

1166
01:22:28,880 --> 01:22:31,480
So at least you can say that, which is kind of cool.

1167
01:22:31,480 --> 01:22:35,240
My friends are like, oh my god, YouTube pays you and TikTok pays you.

1168
01:22:35,240 --> 01:22:38,280
Just hearing them get a little excited about it is kind of cool, I guess.

1169
01:22:38,280 --> 01:22:41,680
You know, you can kind of go, oh yeah, well, at least I get a little bit of change.

1170
01:22:41,680 --> 01:22:46,120
Because I mean, we're all doing this as hobbies and maybe trying to pursue it as a dream or

1171
01:22:46,120 --> 01:22:47,120
as a job too.

1172
01:22:47,120 --> 01:22:51,600
But then today, it's still kind of cool that we are getting a little bit of change.

1173
01:22:51,600 --> 01:22:53,600
I'd be doing this for free.

1174
01:22:53,600 --> 01:22:54,600
Yeah.

1175
01:22:54,600 --> 01:22:58,880
And you get free product if you're reaching out to brands and maybe the brands are paying

1176
01:22:58,880 --> 01:23:02,120
you or maybe they are just doing like a give you free product for a post.

1177
01:23:02,120 --> 01:23:03,960
That's also kind of cool too.

1178
01:23:03,960 --> 01:23:06,920
You're utilizing your following for that too.

1179
01:23:06,920 --> 01:23:07,920
No.

1180
01:23:07,920 --> 01:23:08,920
Yeah.

1181
01:23:08,920 --> 01:23:11,360
I didn't do mouse really bad.

1182
01:23:11,360 --> 01:23:13,800
So reaching out to people.

1183
01:23:13,800 --> 01:23:16,240
Everyone wants to give me just a whole new computer.

1184
01:23:16,240 --> 01:23:19,520
I don't make as many videos as you would like.

1185
01:23:19,520 --> 01:23:20,680
I can't hit me up.

1186
01:23:20,680 --> 01:23:21,680
I need a desk.

1187
01:23:21,680 --> 01:23:22,680
Yes.

1188
01:23:22,680 --> 01:23:23,680
I'm on this.

1189
01:23:23,680 --> 01:23:24,680
Look at the desk of a...

1190
01:23:24,680 --> 01:23:25,680
I know, right?

1191
01:23:25,680 --> 01:23:28,680
That's a sturdy table.

1192
01:23:28,680 --> 01:23:30,680
Oh my gosh.

1193
01:23:30,680 --> 01:23:32,680
Yes, I agree.

1194
01:23:32,680 --> 01:23:34,400
Sponsors, I have a ghost today.

1195
01:23:34,400 --> 01:23:36,600
Come hit up everybody on here.

1196
01:23:36,600 --> 01:23:39,640
Links are going to be below to go check out these guys.

1197
01:23:39,640 --> 01:23:41,280
Let's get some sponsors around the table.

1198
01:23:41,280 --> 01:23:44,960
And then we can like, I don't know, as I said, we could do a Zoom dinner, but that would

1199
01:23:44,960 --> 01:23:48,040
make sense because we're in a different country and that would be...

1200
01:23:48,040 --> 01:23:49,560
I guess that would be like...

1201
01:23:49,560 --> 01:23:50,560
Zoom.

1202
01:23:50,560 --> 01:23:53,800
We could do a Zoom brunch or something.

1203
01:23:53,800 --> 01:23:55,600
Yeah, Zoom brunch.

1204
01:23:55,600 --> 01:23:56,600
I love it.

1205
01:23:56,600 --> 01:23:59,800
Anyways, onto the next question, which is something that me, hip-hop Friday, talked a lot about

1206
01:23:59,800 --> 01:24:01,960
last week, is trolls.

1207
01:24:01,960 --> 01:24:08,800
I feel like being on TikTok, you have to deal with trolls.

1208
01:24:08,800 --> 01:24:12,360
What has your experience been and how have you told them to fuck off?

1209
01:24:12,360 --> 01:24:13,360
They're my favorite.

1210
01:24:13,360 --> 01:24:14,360
I love them.

1211
01:24:14,360 --> 01:24:15,680
I love them so much.

1212
01:24:15,680 --> 01:24:17,480
Oh my God, give me more.

1213
01:24:17,480 --> 01:24:23,960
There is nothing in this world that I love more than mean, shitty comments from mean,

1214
01:24:23,960 --> 01:24:24,960
shitty people.

1215
01:24:24,960 --> 01:24:25,960
They're great.

1216
01:24:25,960 --> 01:24:26,960
10 out of 10.

1217
01:24:26,960 --> 01:24:32,160
I don't mind them as long as they don't attack my personal life, as long as they don't say

1218
01:24:32,160 --> 01:24:33,160
anything.

1219
01:24:33,160 --> 01:24:37,680
I'd be ordinary where I have to legit block them because it's maybe more on a hate comment

1220
01:24:37,680 --> 01:24:38,960
versus...

1221
01:24:38,960 --> 01:24:42,520
I don't really get that much hate.

1222
01:24:42,520 --> 01:24:44,600
I did get a couple...

1223
01:24:44,600 --> 01:24:47,760
I didn't know George Floyd was still alive kind of comments.

1224
01:24:47,760 --> 01:24:51,560
Usually I just remove those or whatever.

1225
01:24:51,560 --> 01:24:55,280
Then I just get comments like, you look like blah, blah, blah.

1226
01:24:55,280 --> 01:24:56,920
I don't take those as offensive.

1227
01:24:56,920 --> 01:25:00,840
I probably do literally look like somebody from TV that they watch and I get that all

1228
01:25:00,840 --> 01:25:01,840
the time.

1229
01:25:01,840 --> 01:25:02,840
I'm like, okay.

1230
01:25:02,840 --> 01:25:04,880
Then I go Google them and I'm like, I look nothing like them.

1231
01:25:04,880 --> 01:25:09,440
Yeah, like Renee, I embrace them.

1232
01:25:09,440 --> 01:25:16,440
I comment back and sometimes if it's my fault, they're bashing me because of something I

1233
01:25:16,440 --> 01:25:19,560
said, then I'll own up to it.

1234
01:25:19,560 --> 01:25:20,560
I'll be like, oh yeah, you're right.

1235
01:25:20,560 --> 01:25:22,880
Then I'll say something funny about it or whatever.

1236
01:25:22,880 --> 01:25:28,160
I've been the best thing to reply to is kind of sarcastic joke.

1237
01:25:28,160 --> 01:25:30,600
Not being offended because that's just adding the...

1238
01:25:30,600 --> 01:25:31,600
That's what they kind of want.

1239
01:25:31,600 --> 01:25:34,920
It's kind of funny if I see something that...

1240
01:25:34,920 --> 01:25:38,480
So far I haven't got anything like that hate, but more of just like, you did this wrong

1241
01:25:38,480 --> 01:25:39,960
or this is...

1242
01:25:39,960 --> 01:25:40,960
And it's kind of funny.

1243
01:25:40,960 --> 01:25:45,560
Every time I see it, I remember those comments more and I'm trying to think, what's a fun

1244
01:25:45,560 --> 01:25:47,160
witty reply to this?

1245
01:25:47,160 --> 01:25:48,160
Yeah.

1246
01:25:48,160 --> 01:25:51,960
So I don't feel bad when I get them.

1247
01:25:51,960 --> 01:25:54,240
Just like, oh, what can I say?

1248
01:25:54,240 --> 01:25:56,600
I've made merch out of my shitty comments.

1249
01:25:56,600 --> 01:25:58,600
See, that's dope.

1250
01:25:58,600 --> 01:26:00,600
That's so cool.

1251
01:26:00,600 --> 01:26:03,680
They're making money off your hate comments.

1252
01:26:03,680 --> 01:26:04,680
See?

1253
01:26:04,680 --> 01:26:05,680
Yeah.

1254
01:26:05,680 --> 01:26:06,680
See?

1255
01:26:06,680 --> 01:26:07,680
Like thanks for the material.

1256
01:26:07,680 --> 01:26:08,680
Yeah, love it.

1257
01:26:08,680 --> 01:26:09,680
Perfect.

1258
01:26:09,680 --> 01:26:10,680
I did have...

1259
01:26:10,680 --> 01:26:11,680
Go ahead.

1260
01:26:11,680 --> 01:26:12,680
Go ahead.

1261
01:26:12,680 --> 01:26:14,440
I was gonna say, I did have to block somebody on TikTok only because I felt like they were

1262
01:26:14,440 --> 01:26:15,760
trolling a little...

1263
01:26:15,760 --> 01:26:18,640
I think I felt like their trolling was getting a little personal, so I had to kind of block

1264
01:26:18,640 --> 01:26:23,240
them and then they added another account and I had to block them again.

1265
01:26:23,240 --> 01:26:27,360
I'm thinking it was them because I think it was just more like...

1266
01:26:27,360 --> 01:26:30,760
I don't know, I just had to just be a little bit careful because they were threatening it

1267
01:26:30,760 --> 01:26:31,760
like the...

1268
01:26:31,760 --> 01:26:32,760
What do you call it?

1269
01:26:32,760 --> 01:26:33,760
D...

1270
01:26:33,760 --> 01:26:34,760
Dinox or something like that?

1271
01:26:34,760 --> 01:26:35,760
Oh, doxing.

1272
01:26:35,760 --> 01:26:36,760
Yeah.

1273
01:26:36,760 --> 01:26:37,760
Doxing.

1274
01:26:37,760 --> 01:26:38,760
Yeah.

1275
01:26:38,760 --> 01:26:39,760
So...

1276
01:26:39,760 --> 01:26:40,760
What's the time and the energy to do that?

1277
01:26:40,760 --> 01:26:41,760
To set...

1278
01:26:41,760 --> 01:26:46,480
The thing about hate comments, because obviously there's the trolls and the people who...

1279
01:26:46,480 --> 01:26:47,480
You're so fat.

1280
01:26:47,480 --> 01:26:48,480
You're so ugly.

1281
01:26:48,480 --> 01:26:49,480
Like, thank you.

1282
01:26:49,480 --> 01:26:50,480
I'm aware of what I look like.

1283
01:26:50,480 --> 01:26:51,480
I know.

1284
01:26:51,480 --> 01:26:52,480
I have a mirror.

1285
01:26:52,480 --> 01:26:56,360
So those ones are fun and I love those and keep them coming because I can respond to

1286
01:26:56,360 --> 01:26:57,360
them.

1287
01:26:57,360 --> 01:27:03,440
But then there's the people who genuinely just have this hate that they feel like they

1288
01:27:03,440 --> 01:27:09,960
need to like, yeah, what do you do all day that you think it's okay to go online and

1289
01:27:09,960 --> 01:27:12,360
have this weird parasocial relationship?

1290
01:27:12,360 --> 01:27:14,200
Like, I don't know you.

1291
01:27:14,200 --> 01:27:18,160
You see me in my videos every day and I know you feel like you know me, but you don't at

1292
01:27:18,160 --> 01:27:19,160
the end of the day.

1293
01:27:19,160 --> 01:27:20,160
Yeah.

1294
01:27:20,160 --> 01:27:21,480
And we're not friends.

1295
01:27:21,480 --> 01:27:23,160
I'm sorry.

1296
01:27:23,160 --> 01:27:27,400
But like, they have this like weird parasocial relationship with you and the second you don't

1297
01:27:27,400 --> 01:27:32,640
respond to them right away or like their comment, like, it's almost like you've personally

1298
01:27:32,640 --> 01:27:35,120
slighted them.

1299
01:27:35,120 --> 01:27:40,360
It's very strange and I don't understand how people have the energy for that.

1300
01:27:40,360 --> 01:27:44,960
I always assume that young or like just don't have the social skills yet.

1301
01:27:44,960 --> 01:27:47,240
I mean, no offense, but I just kind of find them dumb.

1302
01:27:47,240 --> 01:27:48,240
Yeah.

1303
01:27:48,240 --> 01:27:52,440
I mean, no, aw, but I mean, some of them are like harsh.

1304
01:27:52,440 --> 01:27:55,960
Like I haven't gotten any harsh comments, but if that were the case, I would just block

1305
01:27:55,960 --> 01:27:56,960
them.

1306
01:27:56,960 --> 01:28:00,760
Like I don't even want other people to see stuff like that.

1307
01:28:00,760 --> 01:28:02,560
That's just my channel.

1308
01:28:02,560 --> 01:28:03,560
Like, yeah.

1309
01:28:03,560 --> 01:28:04,560
Yeah.

1310
01:28:04,560 --> 01:28:09,080
Now, I think it hurts the most because we're all human is when you are at your burnout

1311
01:28:09,080 --> 01:28:13,360
stage and you're already feeling a little low and like we were talking earlier.

1312
01:28:13,360 --> 01:28:17,240
Cause I mean, I failed to mention that I'm human too.

1313
01:28:17,240 --> 01:28:21,920
And some days I will overlook the idea of I'm doing this for fun.

1314
01:28:21,920 --> 01:28:22,920
It still hurts.

1315
01:28:22,920 --> 01:28:25,440
You know, I want to mention that again on burnout.

1316
01:28:25,440 --> 01:28:30,480
I there have been days where I was down about my content because it wasn't performing well.

1317
01:28:30,480 --> 01:28:34,400
And when it's not performing well, you might get a comment here and there saying that,

1318
01:28:34,400 --> 01:28:35,560
Oh yeah, you're caught.

1319
01:28:35,560 --> 01:28:39,840
You're maybe they might think your video kind of sucks or something.

1320
01:28:39,840 --> 01:28:44,480
Then you then it kind of hits you a little bit more, you know, those comments when they

1321
01:28:44,480 --> 01:28:49,160
were hurt more, when you're already feeling down about your content.

1322
01:28:49,160 --> 01:28:53,280
And that's happened maybe once because I was kind of already feeling burnt out and feeling

1323
01:28:53,280 --> 01:28:57,760
a little bit low in my content.

1324
01:28:57,760 --> 01:28:59,680
And that's when it was, Oh yeah, your content sucks.

1325
01:28:59,680 --> 01:29:01,320
You're boring, blah, blah, blah.

1326
01:29:01,320 --> 01:29:03,480
And that's when it was like, Oh damn.

1327
01:29:03,480 --> 01:29:04,480
I think she's right.

1328
01:29:04,480 --> 01:29:08,200
But even though it's not true, but it's all this is how I'm feeling.

1329
01:29:08,200 --> 01:29:09,200
Thanks for validating.

1330
01:29:09,200 --> 01:29:10,200
Right.

1331
01:29:10,200 --> 01:29:11,200
So that hurts.

1332
01:29:11,200 --> 01:29:12,200
That would hit you sometimes.

1333
01:29:12,200 --> 01:29:17,320
Especially when you're first starting out making content, that's really where you figure

1334
01:29:17,320 --> 01:29:24,440
out if content creation is for you or content is not for you because you are going to get

1335
01:29:24,440 --> 01:29:25,440
shitty comments.

1336
01:29:25,440 --> 01:29:28,040
You gotta get them right away.

1337
01:29:28,040 --> 01:29:34,520
Like some of the first comments you're going to get are going to be really, really cruel,

1338
01:29:34,520 --> 01:29:36,720
not even just meet cruel.

1339
01:29:36,720 --> 01:29:40,200
And that's the point where you need to look at this and go, can I handle this every single

1340
01:29:40,200 --> 01:29:42,040
day because they don't stop.

1341
01:29:42,040 --> 01:29:44,160
And they continue.

1342
01:29:44,160 --> 01:29:49,600
And the larger you get, the more opportunities it will become because now your audience,

1343
01:29:49,600 --> 01:29:54,120
now your content is getting pushed out to a larger audience outside of your audience.

1344
01:29:54,120 --> 01:29:58,280
So now they're like, why is this even a, why is this even showing up on my for you page?

1345
01:29:58,280 --> 01:30:01,800
And then they're going to not are going to react to it.

1346
01:30:01,800 --> 01:30:05,360
So which is a good thing because now that means that you're, you're reaching to an even

1347
01:30:05,360 --> 01:30:07,960
larger audience, but are you ready for it?

1348
01:30:07,960 --> 01:30:08,960
Yeah.

1349
01:30:08,960 --> 01:30:10,720
Everybody's like, Oh my God, I want 100,000 followers.

1350
01:30:10,720 --> 01:30:12,600
I want 200,000 followers, but do you though?

1351
01:30:12,600 --> 01:30:14,120
Are you really ready for this?

1352
01:30:14,120 --> 01:30:15,120
Yeah.

1353
01:30:15,120 --> 01:30:18,960
But once you get there and you're comfortable with it, um, yeah, embrace it.

1354
01:30:18,960 --> 01:30:21,320
Just embrace the journey.

1355
01:30:21,320 --> 01:30:23,320
And those hate comments, make those t-shirts.

1356
01:30:23,320 --> 01:30:30,160
That's where you're getting the million dollars is you make t-shirts out of hate comments.

1357
01:30:30,160 --> 01:30:32,760
That's really, you make a million dollars.

1358
01:30:32,760 --> 01:30:34,880
I'm wearing so much from y'all.

1359
01:30:34,880 --> 01:30:35,880
Yeah.

1360
01:30:35,880 --> 01:30:36,880
Yeah.

1361
01:30:36,880 --> 01:30:37,880
Yeah.

1362
01:30:37,880 --> 01:30:40,400
Make shitty content.

1363
01:30:40,400 --> 01:30:45,000
Make shitty content, make shitty t-shirts with shitty comments on them.

1364
01:30:45,000 --> 01:30:46,000
It's just amazing.

1365
01:30:46,000 --> 01:30:47,000
Your content's amazing.

1366
01:30:47,000 --> 01:30:51,680
I'm just saying, just take advantage of, you know, creating content on the, with your

1367
01:30:51,680 --> 01:30:52,680
phone.

1368
01:30:52,680 --> 01:30:53,680
Your content's amazing.

1369
01:30:53,680 --> 01:30:54,680
Thank you.

1370
01:30:54,680 --> 01:30:55,680
Appreciate that.

1371
01:30:55,680 --> 01:30:56,680
Here's this.

1372
01:30:56,680 --> 01:30:58,280
All of us are all amazing.

1373
01:30:58,280 --> 01:31:00,280
That's why we're here.

1374
01:31:00,280 --> 01:31:01,280
Right?

1375
01:31:01,280 --> 01:31:08,080
Well, I got a couple more questions and then I'm going to wrap up because it's podcast

1376
01:31:08,080 --> 01:31:09,520
is going for almost two hours.

1377
01:31:09,520 --> 01:31:11,640
I mean, why not?

1378
01:31:11,640 --> 01:31:12,640
Okay.

1379
01:31:12,640 --> 01:31:16,000
So, oh my God, I was like, where, where am I?

1380
01:31:16,000 --> 01:31:17,000
Okay.

1381
01:31:17,000 --> 01:31:22,000
We kind of talked about this one already, but what makes TikTok different from everything

1382
01:31:22,000 --> 01:31:24,600
else besides you get more views there?

1383
01:31:24,600 --> 01:31:28,080
Is there anything else that you've really noticed that TikTok is different from the rest

1384
01:31:28,080 --> 01:31:30,160
of every other type of social media?

1385
01:31:30,160 --> 01:31:34,640
I mean, it's not a platform you're catching up with your friends on.

1386
01:31:34,640 --> 01:31:35,640
Yeah.

1387
01:31:35,640 --> 01:31:36,640
Yeah.

1388
01:31:36,640 --> 01:31:40,760
It's not specifically for people creating content.

1389
01:31:40,760 --> 01:31:45,880
And I think it's more acceptable to follow trends too.

1390
01:31:45,880 --> 01:31:49,640
But you got to still be careful because you still have to credit.

1391
01:31:49,640 --> 01:31:52,360
I feel like you, I feel like there's a lack of credibility.

1392
01:31:52,360 --> 01:31:57,360
Like if you do something that's inspired, at least try to say, oh, this was inspired

1393
01:31:57,360 --> 01:31:58,360
by whatever.

1394
01:31:58,360 --> 01:32:02,040
But if it's like a well-known trend, obviously, I mean, you don't know where that trend came

1395
01:32:02,040 --> 01:32:03,040
from.

1396
01:32:03,040 --> 01:32:04,040
So, but you just got to be mindful.

1397
01:32:04,040 --> 01:32:08,280
Is this a trend or is this something that one specific person created?

1398
01:32:08,280 --> 01:32:09,280
And I thought it was a trend.

1399
01:32:09,280 --> 01:32:11,680
So, I mean, just obviously have to do your homework there.

1400
01:32:11,680 --> 01:32:16,840
But, but I think trends are definitely acceptable more on TikTok than the other platforms.

1401
01:32:16,840 --> 01:32:21,680
I mean, every platform has its trends, but I feel like you see more trends on TikTok,

1402
01:32:21,680 --> 01:32:22,680
in my opinion.

1403
01:32:22,680 --> 01:32:23,680
Yeah.

1404
01:32:23,680 --> 01:32:29,200
Um, this is, I have to ask this, this is just kind of more of, so I have a family member

1405
01:32:29,200 --> 01:32:37,520
and they are a TikTok influencer and that just makes my skin crawl saying those words

1406
01:32:37,520 --> 01:32:45,680
out loud because they will take any sponsorship deal and they make really shitty content,

1407
01:32:45,680 --> 01:32:53,240
in my personal opinion, because they're, they're out there trying to get reaction, they're

1408
01:32:53,240 --> 01:32:55,720
reaction based.

1409
01:32:55,720 --> 01:32:59,760
How does it feel to also be in the same bat with kind of like everybody?

1410
01:32:59,760 --> 01:33:03,600
I also kind of like the same as YouTube because like there's, there's like fun YouTube and

1411
01:33:03,600 --> 01:33:05,720
then there's shitty YouTube.

1412
01:33:05,720 --> 01:33:09,640
So like, what's it feel that like, if you're like someone called you a TikTok influencer,

1413
01:33:09,640 --> 01:33:12,200
would that be like a sense of pride?

1414
01:33:12,200 --> 01:33:16,080
Or would you kind of be like, oh, am I kind of like, are you then grouped in with the

1415
01:33:16,080 --> 01:33:19,520
maybe not so good TikTok influencers?

1416
01:33:19,520 --> 01:33:24,160
I don't want the, so the thing about the TikTok algorithm is because a lot of people say this,

1417
01:33:24,160 --> 01:33:28,560
they're like, okay, well, the only thing that I see on my TikTok is girls half naked dancing

1418
01:33:28,560 --> 01:33:29,560
in the street.

1419
01:33:29,560 --> 01:33:33,800
Well, that says a lot about you because that's what your algorithm is showing you.

1420
01:33:33,800 --> 01:33:39,320
And if your algorithm is showing you things like that, I don't really want those people

1421
01:33:39,320 --> 01:33:42,720
as my audience anyway.

1422
01:33:42,720 --> 01:33:43,720
They're not for me.

1423
01:33:43,720 --> 01:33:47,640
I mean, I've had people, my coworkers all know that I do TikTok and they think it's

1424
01:33:47,640 --> 01:33:54,320
fucking hilarious that I'm a TikTok influencer and like I definitely say it and I'm milk.

1425
01:33:54,320 --> 01:33:58,520
I'm like, I'm a TikTok influencer, but like I'm very sarcastic about it.

1426
01:33:58,520 --> 01:34:01,360
It wouldn't offend me because I am.

1427
01:34:01,360 --> 01:34:02,360
I am.

1428
01:34:02,360 --> 01:34:04,280
That's, yeah, it's a thing that I do.

1429
01:34:04,280 --> 01:34:05,760
I can't deny that.

1430
01:34:05,760 --> 01:34:06,760
Yeah.

1431
01:34:06,760 --> 01:34:11,840
I have to get, I have to be, I think for me, I have to be more comfortable around people

1432
01:34:11,840 --> 01:34:14,880
in person when they say, oh yeah, you create TikTok videos.

1433
01:34:14,880 --> 01:34:17,960
I don't talk about it a lot in person, in public.

1434
01:34:17,960 --> 01:34:23,080
So when like my family members or when my friends say to other people when I'm there,

1435
01:34:23,080 --> 01:34:26,840
like, oh yeah, he produces like videos for TikTok and YouTube.

1436
01:34:26,840 --> 01:34:29,320
He's like a TikTok celebrity.

1437
01:34:29,320 --> 01:34:31,120
I just feel weird about it.

1438
01:34:31,120 --> 01:34:34,520
I guess I just don't like talking about myself, I guess, but it's just, I don't know.

1439
01:34:34,520 --> 01:34:35,520
It's just weird.

1440
01:34:35,520 --> 01:34:38,400
So when people say that, I'm like, oh, okay.

1441
01:34:38,400 --> 01:34:42,760
I don't get offended at all, but it's just when I'm out in public and I have to talk

1442
01:34:42,760 --> 01:34:43,760
a little bit about that.

1443
01:34:43,760 --> 01:34:44,760
I do it.

1444
01:34:44,760 --> 01:34:45,760
I do.

1445
01:34:45,760 --> 01:34:49,000
Even though I've been doing it for so long, well, not so long, but for two years, it's

1446
01:34:49,000 --> 01:34:53,480
just different because not a lot of people kind of know that I do it kind of.

1447
01:34:53,480 --> 01:34:56,960
I mean, I guess they know, but they don't really know exactly like, like my mom really

1448
01:34:56,960 --> 01:35:03,520
doesn't understand like, oh wow, he has like 150,000 followers on TikTok.

1449
01:35:03,520 --> 01:35:07,600
I don't think that's kind of, I don't think she grasped that concept yet.

1450
01:35:07,600 --> 01:35:08,600
Yeah.

1451
01:35:08,600 --> 01:35:11,640
Like, well, for example, this is super random.

1452
01:35:11,640 --> 01:35:16,680
I went to a comedy show, like a small comedy show with my in-laws.

1453
01:35:16,680 --> 01:35:21,160
And of course we were sitting in the front row and they pointed to me and I do graphic

1454
01:35:21,160 --> 01:35:25,160
design also and some other stuff, but like they asked, what do you do?

1455
01:35:25,160 --> 01:35:28,280
And I said, I do social media content creation, that stuff.

1456
01:35:28,280 --> 01:35:31,680
And then later on, they made a joke that I was an only fans person.

1457
01:35:31,680 --> 01:35:36,840
If you do only fans, it's totally fine, but like I'm, I'm vague because I don't know how

1458
01:35:36,840 --> 01:35:38,680
to explain it.

1459
01:35:38,680 --> 01:35:42,680
Like similar to NAR, I'm like, I don't like to talk about that.

1460
01:35:42,680 --> 01:35:46,440
Like I've been meeting a lot of new people moving and they asked what I do.

1461
01:35:46,440 --> 01:35:47,440
I'm kind of vague.

1462
01:35:47,440 --> 01:35:52,120
I'm like, I do social media because I also do like social media content create, but like

1463
01:35:52,120 --> 01:35:54,800
this is what I spend a lot of time on too.

1464
01:35:54,800 --> 01:36:00,000
And I don't know how to talk about it because I mean, I think they have a idea in their

1465
01:36:00,000 --> 01:36:05,320
mind of, oh, you do social media that probably ends here on the beach with your bikini on.

1466
01:36:05,320 --> 01:36:06,320
And that's fine.

1467
01:36:06,320 --> 01:36:07,320
You want to do that.

1468
01:36:07,320 --> 01:36:08,320
This is not me.

1469
01:36:08,320 --> 01:36:10,400
I then I explained, no, it's for a video game.

1470
01:36:10,400 --> 01:36:11,640
They're like, oh, video games.

1471
01:36:11,640 --> 01:36:13,200
I'm like, one video game.

1472
01:36:13,200 --> 01:36:14,840
Yeah, one video game.

1473
01:36:14,840 --> 01:36:17,200
Not to explain to people.

1474
01:36:17,200 --> 01:36:20,120
And I'm just like, I kind of just shut it off.

1475
01:36:20,120 --> 01:36:23,160
My husband likes to say, oh, she's a video game influencer.

1476
01:36:23,160 --> 01:36:24,320
I'm like, don't call me that.

1477
01:36:24,320 --> 01:36:27,120
Like maybe call me like a content creator.

1478
01:36:27,120 --> 01:36:30,880
I just don't know what it, I should call it.

1479
01:36:30,880 --> 01:36:32,040
Like I'm kind of in the middle.

1480
01:36:32,040 --> 01:36:37,040
Like I don't have a ton of, a ton of followers yet, hopefully.

1481
01:36:37,040 --> 01:36:38,840
But I also am not just starting out.

1482
01:36:38,840 --> 01:36:42,720
So I'm somewhere in this like weird, and I don't want to call myself an influencer.

1483
01:36:42,720 --> 01:36:46,320
And then people being like, oh, well, you only have this many followers.

1484
01:36:46,320 --> 01:36:50,400
And, you know, it's a weird place to be.

1485
01:36:50,400 --> 01:36:57,400
I could not agree more because like it's because of people like I, I treat, I treat

1486
01:36:57,400 --> 01:36:58,400
go.

1487
01:36:58,400 --> 01:37:02,320
I'm actually starting to get more hungover as this podcast is going on.

1488
01:37:02,320 --> 01:37:03,320
I'm getting more awake.

1489
01:37:03,320 --> 01:37:04,320
You should start drinking coffee.

1490
01:37:04,320 --> 01:37:05,320
Yeah, drink some Cassee.

1491
01:37:05,320 --> 01:37:07,320
Oh my God, there you go.

1492
01:37:07,320 --> 01:37:09,200
Maybe I do do that sponsorship after all.

1493
01:37:09,200 --> 01:37:13,080
But anyway, I treat Sims as like church and state.

1494
01:37:13,080 --> 01:37:15,600
I, when I'm simzing, I'm simzing.

1495
01:37:15,600 --> 01:37:20,480
And when I like, as a lot of people, Stossi is not my real name.

1496
01:37:20,480 --> 01:37:21,720
My name is Jen.

1497
01:37:21,720 --> 01:37:23,440
Jen is her own thing.

1498
01:37:23,440 --> 01:37:24,440
Stossi is her own thing.

1499
01:37:24,440 --> 01:37:26,840
I treat them as Hannah Montana and Miley Cyrus.

1500
01:37:26,840 --> 01:37:29,840
They are fucking two different people.

1501
01:37:29,840 --> 01:37:33,680
So people will be like, oh, like I know, like, like Jason will say like, oh, like, like

1502
01:37:33,680 --> 01:37:36,560
Jeni's, they got really good with her podcast and stuff like, oh, she's like, she has a

1503
01:37:36,560 --> 01:37:38,320
podcast like anybody can have podcast.

1504
01:37:38,320 --> 01:37:39,320
You're fucking right.

1505
01:37:39,320 --> 01:37:40,320
Anybody can have a podcast.

1506
01:37:40,320 --> 01:37:42,680
I would enjoy having a podcast.

1507
01:37:42,680 --> 01:37:44,520
Literally anybody, you have a mic.

1508
01:37:44,520 --> 01:37:45,520
Fuck you, dude.

1509
01:37:45,520 --> 01:37:46,520
You have your phone.

1510
01:37:46,520 --> 01:37:47,520
Yes.

1511
01:37:47,520 --> 01:37:48,520
I have a phone.

1512
01:37:48,520 --> 01:37:49,520
Where it's awesome.

1513
01:37:49,520 --> 01:37:53,520
But it comes, there's a lot more that goes with it.

1514
01:37:53,520 --> 01:37:58,440
It's continuously scheduling and being able to write content that people like and getting

1515
01:37:58,440 --> 01:38:00,960
listeners and all that, all that good stuff.

1516
01:38:00,960 --> 01:38:05,440
But I would rather say that I'm an author because I create a graphic novel online.

1517
01:38:05,440 --> 01:38:08,880
I would go author and podcast it before I would go to content creator.

1518
01:38:08,880 --> 01:38:14,160
I did a podcast two years ago and someone called me a content creator and I was like,

1519
01:38:14,160 --> 01:38:15,160
I'm not a content creator.

1520
01:38:15,160 --> 01:38:16,360
What the fuck are you talking about?

1521
01:38:16,360 --> 01:38:18,160
I make a podcast and I'm like, well, that's content.

1522
01:38:18,160 --> 01:38:19,160
That's content.

1523
01:38:19,160 --> 01:38:20,160
That's content, right?

1524
01:38:20,160 --> 01:38:22,760
It didn't, it didn't even clue in and I was like, I'm not a content creator.

1525
01:38:22,760 --> 01:38:26,760
I don't, because in my mind at the time, I thought they were talking about CC like

1526
01:38:26,760 --> 01:38:28,600
literally custom content.

1527
01:38:28,600 --> 01:38:29,600
Content creator.

1528
01:38:29,600 --> 01:38:31,600
Yeah.

1529
01:38:31,600 --> 01:38:34,480
So I was like, custom content and I was like, I don't do that.

1530
01:38:34,480 --> 01:38:39,100
I interview people and I think I'm a standup comedian when I do these things.

1531
01:38:39,100 --> 01:38:47,280
So it was just kind of more of like, I'm like, I'm Jen and I do social media and I leave

1532
01:38:47,280 --> 01:38:48,280
it there.

1533
01:38:48,280 --> 01:38:49,280
But I've got it.

1534
01:38:49,280 --> 01:38:51,080
People are like, Oh, so like, have you ever considered doing it?

1535
01:38:51,080 --> 01:38:52,080
Only fans?

1536
01:38:52,080 --> 01:38:55,680
And my answer is yes, because I have to adjust.

1537
01:38:55,680 --> 01:39:00,120
Byron had, oh, that's my husband named, he had an idea where I do only fans, but I do

1538
01:39:00,120 --> 01:39:01,120
only Sims content.

1539
01:39:01,120 --> 01:39:02,120
Yeah.

1540
01:39:02,120 --> 01:39:03,620
You can literally do any content.

1541
01:39:03,620 --> 01:39:04,620
Yeah, you can.

1542
01:39:04,620 --> 01:39:09,520
I'm scared of being like, I have an only fans and then people getting an idea of what I

1543
01:39:09,520 --> 01:39:10,520
do.

1544
01:39:10,520 --> 01:39:13,360
And again, like I said before, if you want to do that, that's fine.

1545
01:39:13,360 --> 01:39:14,360
Yes.

1546
01:39:14,360 --> 01:39:19,480
But I also like, I'm 30 and I just don't want to do that.

1547
01:39:19,480 --> 01:39:21,720
I go, I get through my school, see it.

1548
01:39:21,720 --> 01:39:23,200
I don't know.

1549
01:39:23,200 --> 01:39:25,080
See, I got you.

1550
01:39:25,080 --> 01:39:28,320
For me, I'm like, yo, give me that bag.

1551
01:39:28,320 --> 01:39:31,680
If I, if I have to sell feet photos, because apparently those are it.

1552
01:39:31,680 --> 01:39:34,240
Cause like I would sell feet photos so fucking fast.

1553
01:39:34,240 --> 01:39:39,720
No, I'm not above probably like if someone wants to offer me and Twitch, I did Twitch

1554
01:39:39,720 --> 01:39:40,800
for a short period of time.

1555
01:39:40,800 --> 01:39:44,880
The amount of feet messages I got, I'm like, oh my gosh.

1556
01:39:44,880 --> 01:39:45,880
What?

1557
01:39:45,880 --> 01:39:49,520
On camera, they're like, I have a hundred thousand dollars in my PayPal.

1558
01:39:49,520 --> 01:39:50,520
Show me.

1559
01:39:50,520 --> 01:39:53,160
Send it to the PayPal and I will show you my feet.

1560
01:39:53,160 --> 01:39:57,800
Yeah, I will give a good foot, but I'll give a good hand.

1561
01:39:57,800 --> 01:39:59,160
I'm five foot tall.

1562
01:39:59,160 --> 01:40:00,160
I'm not skinny.

1563
01:40:00,160 --> 01:40:05,760
Who the fuck besides my fiance, who else finds this like who would want to pay for this?

1564
01:40:05,760 --> 01:40:06,760
Nobody.

1565
01:40:06,760 --> 01:40:07,760
But oh, okay.

1566
01:40:07,760 --> 01:40:12,560
I have a hundred thousand dollars in my PayPal.

1567
01:40:12,560 --> 01:40:17,240
From all that TikTok money we're making.

1568
01:40:17,240 --> 01:40:19,640
Oh my goodness.

1569
01:40:19,640 --> 01:40:21,240
Oh my God.

1570
01:40:21,240 --> 01:40:23,360
Oh, I needed that laugh.

1571
01:40:23,360 --> 01:40:24,360
Okay.

1572
01:40:24,360 --> 01:40:31,240
Well, as we've progressed from sponsorships to Port Hub to selling feet on a feet photo.

1573
01:40:31,240 --> 01:40:33,400
That's how you're going to make the money.

1574
01:40:33,400 --> 01:40:34,400
Yes.

1575
01:40:34,400 --> 01:40:37,640
Is your goddamn clothes off.

1576
01:40:37,640 --> 01:40:39,520
Don't TikTok videos kids.

1577
01:40:39,520 --> 01:40:42,280
This is a good toe photo.

1578
01:40:42,280 --> 01:40:44,080
That's how you're going to buy the house.

1579
01:40:44,080 --> 01:40:45,080
Yes.

1580
01:40:45,080 --> 01:40:47,920
It's not a, it's not anything on TikTok.

1581
01:40:47,920 --> 01:40:49,320
Well, anyways, final question.

1582
01:40:49,320 --> 01:40:53,640
Cause like I got to wrap this up cause I think this interview has gotten some weird places.

1583
01:40:53,640 --> 01:40:59,640
What advice would you give to anybody wanting to start off?

1584
01:40:59,640 --> 01:41:05,360
I know we've talked about this on both your podcast, but this is just kind of repeating

1585
01:41:05,360 --> 01:41:11,120
it any literally any advice and anybody can go ahead.

1586
01:41:11,120 --> 01:41:18,360
Be prepared mentally for the toll that TikTok can take on you, whether it be like we said

1587
01:41:18,360 --> 01:41:23,720
earlier, the burnout, whether it be the trolls, whether it be people just genuinely being

1588
01:41:23,720 --> 01:41:28,520
meet, cause I put trolls and mean people into like two separate categories.

1589
01:41:28,520 --> 01:41:32,360
Things are going to happen that are going to make you not want to create the content

1590
01:41:32,360 --> 01:41:33,360
anymore.

1591
01:41:33,360 --> 01:41:34,360
It could be low views.

1592
01:41:34,360 --> 01:41:37,000
It could be a number of things.

1593
01:41:37,000 --> 01:41:41,920
And you need to make sure that you are at the end of the day enjoying what you're doing

1594
01:41:41,920 --> 01:41:45,200
or why are you doing it?

1595
01:41:45,200 --> 01:41:46,440
I could not agree more.

1596
01:41:46,440 --> 01:41:49,360
Nard, how about you?

1597
01:41:49,360 --> 01:41:54,320
Renee took everything I was going to say.

1598
01:41:54,320 --> 01:41:59,360
I just want to add to what she's saying by just saying that, uh, yeah, just start.

1599
01:41:59,360 --> 01:42:04,040
A lot of people, I think the hardest thing really is just, you know, the concept might

1600
01:42:04,040 --> 01:42:06,240
be easy for you, but just starting.

1601
01:42:06,240 --> 01:42:10,400
A lot of people want to create content and trying to figure out how to start.

1602
01:42:10,400 --> 01:42:14,960
But if once you start, I think you're already just in the path or the direction of being

1603
01:42:14,960 --> 01:42:16,840
the content creator.

1604
01:42:16,840 --> 01:42:19,800
So just starting, um, embracing the journey.

1605
01:42:19,800 --> 01:42:25,000
Like when you hit, when you hit your milestones, just like sit back and relaxed and definitely

1606
01:42:25,000 --> 01:42:29,120
take care of your mental state, uh, in the process of it.

1607
01:42:29,120 --> 01:42:32,640
And, uh, yeah, just, just enjoy the journey because a lot of times we're still trying

1608
01:42:32,640 --> 01:42:39,160
to, we're focusing on the content creating the growth, but we're not actually sitting

1609
01:42:39,160 --> 01:42:44,480
in the moment of like, wow, like let me sit back for a second and at least enjoy the fact

1610
01:42:44,480 --> 01:42:47,760
that a video just got hit, just hit a million.

1611
01:42:47,760 --> 01:42:51,240
Let me do a watch party with my close ones cause it's a big deal.

1612
01:42:51,240 --> 01:42:52,800
You know, it's like, that's kind of cool.

1613
01:42:52,800 --> 01:42:57,760
You know, like just take advantage of those milestones because in that way, when you're,

1614
01:42:57,760 --> 01:43:02,600
when you're hitting those thousand views or 50, 50 views, you could just be like, oh,

1615
01:43:02,600 --> 01:43:03,600
okay.

1616
01:43:03,600 --> 01:43:05,440
I remember when I did, it was doing pretty good.

1617
01:43:05,440 --> 01:43:09,200
And I had those moments where I celebrated, you know, stuff like that.

1618
01:43:09,200 --> 01:43:10,200
That makes sense.

1619
01:43:10,200 --> 01:43:13,640
But, but, um, but yeah, just start embrace the journey.

1620
01:43:13,640 --> 01:43:16,440
Take care of your mental state while, while you're doing it.

1621
01:43:16,440 --> 01:43:17,440
I love that.

1622
01:43:17,440 --> 01:43:24,240
And Narba, before we end off, I really love that you partnered with the, on TikTok, Twitter,

1623
01:43:24,240 --> 01:43:25,240
Twitter.

1624
01:43:25,240 --> 01:43:26,240
Thank you.

1625
01:43:26,240 --> 01:43:28,760
Yeah, we both, that was cool.

1626
01:43:28,760 --> 01:43:29,760
I liked your content.

1627
01:43:29,760 --> 01:43:33,320
I was so nervous cause the mom cave is like, yeah, so like the Sunday before she's like,

1628
01:43:33,320 --> 01:43:34,560
you're up and I'm like, what?

1629
01:43:34,560 --> 01:43:36,040
I thought I'd have weeks.

1630
01:43:36,040 --> 01:43:40,720
I literally made everything that Sunday and I like literally pushed it out and I was just

1631
01:43:40,720 --> 01:43:44,280
wanting to be as honest as possible because that's the health is extremely important and

1632
01:43:44,280 --> 01:43:46,240
I don't think it's talked about enough.

1633
01:43:46,240 --> 01:43:51,520
So I do really do appreciate that you also partnered with on Twitter as well.

1634
01:43:51,520 --> 01:43:52,520
I thought that was very cool.

1635
01:43:52,520 --> 01:43:56,520
And the fact that you were right after me, I was like, because we just, it was literally

1636
01:43:56,520 --> 01:43:58,080
the Sunday after our podcast.

1637
01:43:58,080 --> 01:43:59,080
Mom cave message.

1638
01:43:59,080 --> 01:44:00,080
I was like, oh, yeah.

1639
01:44:00,080 --> 01:44:01,080
So that was cool.

1640
01:44:01,080 --> 01:44:07,880
That was a good experience because yeah, like you said, um, I think like as creators, we,

1641
01:44:07,880 --> 01:44:14,800
we don't have the platform with our audience to, to share like what really goes behind

1642
01:44:14,800 --> 01:44:15,800
the scenes.

1643
01:44:15,800 --> 01:44:19,440
Um, because they just think it's all peaches and cream, you know, oh yeah, they get to

1644
01:44:19,440 --> 01:44:23,920
wake up and create content and partner with brands and stuff like that, but they don't

1645
01:44:23,920 --> 01:44:27,080
really see that we were human too.

1646
01:44:27,080 --> 01:44:32,000
And we definitely take things to heart or we work a lot and we can't sit back and enjoy

1647
01:44:32,000 --> 01:44:33,000
it.

1648
01:44:33,000 --> 01:44:36,120
So, um, but yeah, that's why I like doing stuff like that too.

1649
01:44:36,120 --> 01:44:39,560
Being able to, you know, make sure everybody's taking care of their mental state.

1650
01:44:39,560 --> 01:44:41,800
I could not agree more.

1651
01:44:41,800 --> 01:44:43,880
Uh, last but not least cookie.

1652
01:44:43,880 --> 01:44:50,360
I guess since you guys said so many great things, I've had something random.

1653
01:44:50,360 --> 01:44:55,240
Uh, when I was starting on Tik Tok, I was kind of looking at a ton of other people,

1654
01:44:55,240 --> 01:44:57,160
like what's successful.

1655
01:44:57,160 --> 01:44:58,160
And I kept trying.

1656
01:44:58,160 --> 01:44:59,360
It didn't really work.

1657
01:44:59,360 --> 01:45:03,880
And then I thought of an idea like, let me do voiceover this part and I've never seen

1658
01:45:03,880 --> 01:45:04,880
it.

1659
01:45:04,880 --> 01:45:05,880
I'm like, this is probably not going to do well.

1660
01:45:05,880 --> 01:45:07,240
I doubted myself a lot.

1661
01:45:07,240 --> 01:45:10,080
So don't really doubt yourself if you have an idea, just sort of do it.

1662
01:45:10,080 --> 01:45:14,640
If it doesn't do well, the worst you can get is not as many of the uses you hope for.

1663
01:45:14,640 --> 01:45:20,160
So just try things, see what happens and don't be afraid to fail a little.

1664
01:45:20,160 --> 01:45:21,160
Yeah.

1665
01:45:21,160 --> 01:45:22,160
Yeah.

1666
01:45:22,160 --> 01:45:24,960
It's not really going to affect overall like end goal.

1667
01:45:24,960 --> 01:45:25,960
Yeah.

1668
01:45:25,960 --> 01:45:27,080
I think that's what I'll advise.

1669
01:45:27,080 --> 01:45:28,760
Please go take everybody's advice.

1670
01:45:28,760 --> 01:45:33,640
If I have a ship, I literally have like a hundred people on Tik Tok.

1671
01:45:33,640 --> 01:45:36,000
I have no leg to stand on.

1672
01:45:36,000 --> 01:45:38,520
It's like I have to blow up.

1673
01:45:38,520 --> 01:45:41,560
Because I haven't posted anything since like October.

1674
01:45:41,560 --> 01:45:42,560
Well, you need to start posting things.

1675
01:45:42,560 --> 01:45:43,560
Just keep posting.

1676
01:45:43,560 --> 01:45:44,560
Yeah.

1677
01:45:44,560 --> 01:45:45,560
Okay.

1678
01:45:45,560 --> 01:45:49,920
I'll just point and storyteller podcast.

1679
01:45:49,920 --> 01:45:54,560
Everything else, I'll throw Tik Tok in there and then we'll go back to burnout and then

1680
01:45:54,560 --> 01:45:57,720
I'll just, you know, I'll just openly cry on Tik Tok.

1681
01:45:57,720 --> 01:45:59,880
I mean, blonde girl cries.

1682
01:45:59,880 --> 01:46:01,880
That will do really bad.

1683
01:46:01,880 --> 01:46:06,680
People love it when they cry on Tik Tok.

1684
01:46:06,680 --> 01:46:07,680
They love it.

1685
01:46:07,680 --> 01:46:08,680
I know I stop.

1686
01:46:08,680 --> 01:46:09,680
I'm like, why is she crying?

1687
01:46:09,680 --> 01:46:14,240
Yes, when happened, then you have to look back several videos to figure out what happened

1688
01:46:14,240 --> 01:46:16,000
and then it's a whole thing.

1689
01:46:16,000 --> 01:46:19,800
I actually had a video that went viral because I was crying on camera.

1690
01:46:19,800 --> 01:46:20,800
See?

1691
01:46:20,800 --> 01:46:22,800
Yeah, see, it works.

1692
01:46:22,800 --> 01:46:23,800
It works.

1693
01:46:23,800 --> 01:46:24,800
Definitely works.

1694
01:46:24,800 --> 01:46:25,800
That's another tip.

1695
01:46:25,800 --> 01:46:26,800
Cry in syrup.

1696
01:46:26,800 --> 01:46:27,800
Cry a lot.

1697
01:46:27,800 --> 01:46:28,800
Just fucking cry.

1698
01:46:28,800 --> 01:46:29,800
On camera, off camera.

1699
01:46:29,800 --> 01:46:30,800
I'm the crying simmer.

1700
01:46:30,800 --> 01:46:36,800
I only build during mental breakdown.

1701
01:46:36,800 --> 01:46:37,800
Yes.

1702
01:46:37,800 --> 01:46:39,800
That's actually a good idea.

1703
01:46:39,800 --> 01:46:41,800
I'm just a good concept.

1704
01:46:41,800 --> 01:46:42,800
I go to building.

1705
01:46:42,800 --> 01:46:44,120
I'm like, I'm really sad.

1706
01:46:44,120 --> 01:46:45,120
I'm just going to like loop.

1707
01:46:45,120 --> 01:46:51,360
They're kind of funny to like, okay, if next time I have a mental breakdown, I'll be waiting

1708
01:46:51,360 --> 01:46:54,760
with bated breath for your next mental break.

1709
01:46:54,760 --> 01:46:56,760
Just have your phone ready to go.

1710
01:46:56,760 --> 01:47:01,760
Here's my phone and like, so that's the problem.

1711
01:47:01,760 --> 01:47:05,760
Okay, so like, because I'm a YouTuber, they'll be like, they'll do their fake ask apology.

1712
01:47:05,760 --> 01:47:10,760
They're like, make sure for every tear I had you like, like this video.

1713
01:47:10,760 --> 01:47:12,760
And you just, I'm just so sad.

1714
01:47:12,760 --> 01:47:14,760
Like, I'm just like, you're full of shit.

1715
01:47:14,760 --> 01:47:16,760
I got all the same tears.

1716
01:47:16,760 --> 01:47:17,760
Yeah.

1717
01:47:17,760 --> 01:47:20,760
There's some crocodile tears right there in my frivol.

1718
01:47:20,760 --> 01:47:22,760
Anyways, it has been an absolute pleasure doing this round table today.

1719
01:47:22,760 --> 01:47:27,760
I want to do a quick round of everybody so you let everybody know where we can find you

1720
01:47:27,760 --> 01:47:28,760
on Tik Tok and Nard.

1721
01:47:28,760 --> 01:47:29,760
You can go first.

1722
01:47:29,760 --> 01:47:30,760
All right.

1723
01:47:30,760 --> 01:47:33,760
You can find me on Tik Tok at Nard villain.

1724
01:47:33,760 --> 01:47:34,760
That's me.

1725
01:47:34,760 --> 01:47:35,760
Perfect.

1726
01:47:35,760 --> 01:47:36,760
Hip hip Renee.

1727
01:47:36,760 --> 01:47:37,760
How about you?

1728
01:47:37,760 --> 01:47:40,760
You can find me on Tik Tok at hip hip Renee.

1729
01:47:40,760 --> 01:47:44,760
It is not hi, hi preemie or any of the other names that you call me.

1730
01:47:44,760 --> 01:47:47,760
It's hip hip Renee, like hip hip hooray.

1731
01:47:47,760 --> 01:47:49,760
I love that cookie.

1732
01:47:49,760 --> 01:47:50,760
How about you?

1733
01:47:50,760 --> 01:47:53,760
You can find me on Tik Tok at cogey creative no dot.

1734
01:47:53,760 --> 01:47:54,760
I'm like Instagram.

1735
01:47:54,760 --> 01:47:56,760
Same as my gallery ID.

1736
01:47:56,760 --> 01:47:58,760
So yeah, C O K I.

1737
01:47:58,760 --> 01:47:59,760
Great.

1738
01:47:59,760 --> 01:48:00,760
Perfect.

1739
01:48:00,760 --> 01:48:06,760
If you want to follow me and see some sad ass videos of not crying, but just like,

1740
01:48:06,760 --> 01:48:10,760
nothing since like, and this is coming out till like August.

1741
01:48:10,760 --> 01:48:11,760
So almost a year.

1742
01:48:11,760 --> 01:48:12,760
I'll maybe buy that.

1743
01:48:12,760 --> 01:48:13,760
I'll have some.

1744
01:48:13,760 --> 01:48:14,760
She might have crying videos.

1745
01:48:14,760 --> 01:48:16,760
I might have crying videos.

1746
01:48:16,760 --> 01:48:17,760
This is where it started.

1747
01:48:17,760 --> 01:48:18,760
This is where it started guys.

1748
01:48:18,760 --> 01:48:22,760
This is my origin villain story of just being like, guys, I became a villain and

1749
01:48:22,760 --> 01:48:28,760
I started crying on Tik Tok or I just started to like, stop villain or I go on only fans

1750
01:48:28,760 --> 01:48:29,760
and selfie photos.

1751
01:48:29,760 --> 01:48:31,760
Or you can start a new trend.

1752
01:48:31,760 --> 01:48:32,760
Foot talks.

1753
01:48:32,760 --> 01:48:35,760
See hashtag foot talks.

1754
01:48:35,760 --> 01:48:36,760
Yeah.

1755
01:48:36,760 --> 01:48:42,760
I'll just edit my foot here instead of me talking and I'll just have my mouth and

1756
01:48:42,760 --> 01:48:43,760
I'll just the hot time.

1757
01:48:43,760 --> 01:48:44,760
Yeah.

1758
01:48:44,760 --> 01:48:45,760
See.

1759
01:48:45,760 --> 01:48:46,760
Yeah.

1760
01:48:46,760 --> 01:48:48,760
I have so many views.

1761
01:48:48,760 --> 01:48:49,760
It's so weird.

1762
01:48:49,760 --> 01:48:53,760
Why are men offering me the $100,000 in their PayPal account?

1763
01:48:53,760 --> 01:48:59,760
Like I don't have like, I don't have good looking.

1764
01:48:59,760 --> 01:49:01,760
I got flat hobbit feet.

1765
01:49:01,760 --> 01:49:02,760
Okay.

1766
01:49:02,760 --> 01:49:04,760
But I have a market for that.

1767
01:49:04,760 --> 01:49:05,760
Okay.

1768
01:49:05,760 --> 01:49:07,760
That's not easy to find.

1769
01:49:07,760 --> 01:49:08,760
Yeah.

1770
01:49:08,760 --> 01:49:11,760
I'm sure with bad ankle support and hairy toes.

1771
01:49:11,760 --> 01:49:13,760
I mean, oh, the fucking.

1772
01:49:13,760 --> 01:49:16,760
Stop.

1773
01:49:16,760 --> 01:49:17,760
See, you are.

1774
01:49:17,760 --> 01:49:18,760
I'm sure you got, yeah.

1775
01:49:18,760 --> 01:49:21,760
See, you're going to already have your listeners like curious about.

1776
01:49:21,760 --> 01:49:22,760
You're ready.

1777
01:49:22,760 --> 01:49:23,760
Ready.

1778
01:49:23,760 --> 01:49:25,760
Eddie sponsored listening.

1779
01:49:25,760 --> 01:49:27,760
This will be like, fuck that.

1780
01:49:27,760 --> 01:49:28,760
We should get.

1781
01:49:28,760 --> 01:49:29,760
Toe rings.

1782
01:49:29,760 --> 01:49:30,760
Toe rings.

1783
01:49:30,760 --> 01:49:31,760
Toe rings.

1784
01:49:31,760 --> 01:49:32,760
Toe rings.

1785
01:49:32,760 --> 01:49:33,760
Anglet sandals.

1786
01:49:33,760 --> 01:49:36,760
I actually need some new flip flops.

1787
01:49:36,760 --> 01:49:37,760
So, um,

1788
01:49:37,760 --> 01:49:38,760
There we go.

1789
01:49:38,760 --> 01:49:39,760
There we go.

1790
01:49:39,760 --> 01:49:44,760
Well, Stossi flip flops toe rings, socks, everything, everything.

1791
01:49:44,760 --> 01:49:45,760
There you go.

1792
01:49:45,760 --> 01:49:48,760
Well, anyways, Kettos and it's been an absolute pleasure.

1793
01:49:48,760 --> 01:49:51,760
I probably was probably one of my favorite podcasts I've done this season.

1794
01:49:51,760 --> 01:49:53,760
But anyways, guys, absolute pleasure.

1795
01:49:53,760 --> 01:49:54,760
Please go check out everybody.

1796
01:49:54,760 --> 01:49:55,760
Eddie sponsors listening.

1797
01:49:55,760 --> 01:49:57,760
Please go check out these guys as well.

1798
01:49:57,760 --> 01:49:58,760
They are all amazing.

1799
01:49:58,760 --> 01:50:00,760
Everyone deserves some time in the sun.

1800
01:50:00,760 --> 01:50:02,760
And I want to thank you all for coming today.

1801
01:50:02,760 --> 01:50:06,760
And I really do hope that you, from all the laughs and giggles, you do,

1802
01:50:06,760 --> 01:50:09,760
all the listeners do take a listen in to learning some tips and tricks when it

1803
01:50:09,760 --> 01:50:12,760
comes to TikTok, because that is the future of social media.

1804
01:50:12,760 --> 01:50:15,760
You will continue to see more platforms coming out in the,

1805
01:50:15,760 --> 01:50:18,760
in the future of just very quick content.

1806
01:50:18,760 --> 01:50:22,760
So thank you guys for coming here today and sharing your wisdom with everybody.

1807
01:50:22,760 --> 01:50:23,760
Thanks for having us.

1808
01:50:23,760 --> 01:50:24,760
You are welcome.

1809
01:50:24,760 --> 01:50:26,760
I'll have a great rest of your day.

1810
01:50:26,760 --> 01:50:36,760
Bye.