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I'm Drea. I'm Meg. I'm Tina. And I'm Jess. And this is Pardon My Stash.

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Welcome to Pardon My Stash, a podcast about knitting the fiber arts and how awesome it is.

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Yeah. Before we dive in today, let's talk about what we're working on, Tina. Well,

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I'm working on holding my mic. No, I, if I was working on something, if I had two hands, it would

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be probably my brioche hat. I just need something simple right now. And my sweater is getting to

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the point that it's hot. Like it sits on my thighs and creates heat. Like a little blanket.

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Yes. And I don't want a blanket right now. It's like 80 degrees.

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It is 80 in the Northeast. I am good. Hard pass. All right, Drae. Still plugging away on the

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Kemi Shawl by Isabelle Kramer. And I'm using Silver Moon fiber arts in blue jeans, faded jeans,

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faded jeans, jeans, jeans, jeans. I'm playing Vigi games. Great. Moving on.

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I can see what you're doing. I am working on my sweater of swords by

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Dear Ingenue. I think that's how you pronounce it. I am on the second sleeve. I was, I was going to

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start the second side of my tea cozy, but I decided I wanted to work on the second sleeve more.

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I'm on seconds right now. And yeah, so I'm working on that and it is in the colorways,

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Vicka and Morganis from Curriculitas. I am working on my sun drop pullover by Lola.

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Pullover by Laura Ehler. I am back on track after the mistake that I had last week.

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I'm about halfway through this pattern shift and then the only thing left is the hem. So I am

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getting there. It's, it's coming. And I'm really excited to be almost done with this thing. Not

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that I haven't loved it. It's been a lot of fun, but I'm ready to move on. If you want to check

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out more about our current projects, patterns and yarns, be sure to check out our website,

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pardonmystache.com. And now knitting, socializing and community with Meg.

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So this is going to be a super short segment today, but I wanted to discuss the news that hit the

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crafting and fiber verse in the last 48 hours. That XRX Inc. who's in charge of the stitches

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events has declared bankruptcy. Yeah. Yeah. Wow. They announced it yesterday. Whoa. I'm not on

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social media anymore. So that I, this is legit reaction right here. I have a date on like knitting

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community news. So that is also, this is brand new to me. I mean, it's, it's brand new to almost

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everybody. They just announced it yesterday. On their website, they said that after 32 years

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of doing events and 40 plus years in business, they can no longer survive in the present economic

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climate. One of the major kind of hits that this is creating is that if you weren't, if you want

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I'm familiar with stitches. Stitches actually used to be several different events all over the country,

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which were not only just big fiber events, they were also big teaching events where they would

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employ dozens of teachers to hold classes. They had a booming marketplace. They used to have one

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in Connecticut. They actually pulled out a few years ago. So there hasn't been one in Connecticut

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in a while. We've never, we did talk about going to one, but never actually happened.

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The real hit in all of this is that up until a few hours before they announced their bankruptcy,

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XRX Inc. was still taking registrations and booth fees from vendors.

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Oh. So a lot of small businesses in the fiber community are going to be negatively impacted

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as a result of this. Oh, that's messed up. Yeah. And they are saying that they will be

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reimbursed, but there's no real timeline right now for reimbursement because as you know,

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bankruptcy is complicated. Also, technically with the bankruptcy thing, they just basically said,

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no, that's really messed up. It's very problematic. And especially for a lot of teachers and small

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business owners who had already invested in reserving a space at a Stitches event. Today on

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a lot of social media unravelry on Instagram, a lot of small business owners who were not affiliated

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with Stitches were actually calling for kind of the awareness of, you know, over the next couple

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weeks, we're probably going to see these vendors coming out and saying, Hey, you know, I had

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invested money in Stitches and now I'm, you know, I'm in kind of a snag. So calling for, you know,

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support of these businesses, it can cost a lot of money to vend at a show. And it is a risk that a

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lot of, of crafters take because of the hopeful payout that it's going to bring them. So when they

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pay fees upfront, they're anticipating that they're going to make that money back. When something

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like this happens, it puts those small businesses in a bind because they have, they've already

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output the money, but they're also not going to be getting the money back that they invested. So

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you know, just be aware if you see this, you know, in the next couple of weeks and you feel so

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inclined to support these small businesses or even give them just a shout out, realizing that

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they are in a bind, that they're in a tough spot. We want to see small businesses succeed. I mean,

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that's a big part of, of the fiber crafting world in general.

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Most of us are. Excuse me. What were you saying? I'm sorry.

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I said just most, if you see it, most of the fiber, there's a lot of big ones, but a lot of

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the different ones you see are these small businesses that usually do go to the shows.

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So yeah, I can imagine this is kind of changing their whole, their whole model.

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And also the fact that when something like this happens and you have such a large vending space

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go down like that, it also does create kind of a fear in a lot of small businesses that

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the risk is not going to be worth it. So those of us that want to keep going to fiber festivals

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and seeing small businesses, we want them to succeed. We want to be encouraging.

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So nobody's saying like, go out and spend a bunch of money. But if you could even like,

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if you see these businesses that are saying that they are in a bind or they, you know, are,

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they were caught up in the stitches madness, even giving them a shout out, plugging them on

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social media. That's a great way to make sure that they, you know, kind of stay afloat and

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keep them, keep in the public consciousness, sending them some love. So the algorithms see them.

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Yeah, I was going to say, I hope you guys don't mind if I say this, but it's,

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I hope those guys don't mind if I say this, but if any of you out there that are listening to this

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are affected by that, we'd be happy to do a shout out for you on the podcast. We can do that for

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the next couple of weeks just to bring awareness to your business and hopefully some free

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advertisement in the sounds of a voice to hopefully send people your way. I think that's one thing we

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can do. It doesn't cost us anything to do it. And if it will help you, if you've been affected by

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this situation, please contact us through our Instagram or our email on our website. We have

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a form and we will shout you out. We'll respond to your message and we'll definitely shout you out

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on the podcast in the next coming weeks.

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So for this week's main topic, we're going to piggyback off what we talked about last week in

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the episode, we talked about when to know when it's time to take the next step to kind of go

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forward, to stretch yourself, to kind of move your abilities forward. This week, we're going to talk

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about taking a step back, not necessarily giving up, not quitting, but when is it time you move

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into the familiar, do what you're comfortable with and take a little bit of a breather.

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So to start off, first question for everybody, when do you know that it's time to be like,

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okay, I've been trying this thing, it's not working for me. I don't want to quit knitting

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or crochet. I'm not going to give up. But when do I just, when do I kind of stop for a second?

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So I'm kind of in a little bit of a funk myself right now. I have been working on this show for

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a really long time. And most days I'm not working on it. The most that I usually work on it is when

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I am podcasting with you guys. So it's not a lot of work that I'm putting into it right now. But

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I'm also a painfully monogamous knitter. So it's hard for me to want to cast on to a new project,

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just to give myself even a little bit of a break from this project and doing something that I

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actually really want to do. But I'm starting to feel it. I mean, like moving on to a new project,

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I also feel like taking a step back is also a feeling. It is definitely is. This is definitely

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like the feeling. Yeah, Trey, I don't think I know you're painfully monogamous. But if you could

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tolerate having a second one as like, don't think of as the second one, like you have a second whip,

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but like you have a smaller project and then a larger project. So like this shawl could be

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your larger project. And then maybe you do like a crochet square, or a you know, a washcloth,

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or just something or a hat or something like really quick. It probably is going to be a hat.

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Yeah, just something that you can do just to kind of like, take a, honestly take a break from the

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shawl. Because I honestly, from my perspective, I've been flipping between my sweater and my brioche

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hat. So if I'm not feeling the sweater, I go to the hat. If I'm not feeling the hat, I go to the

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sweater. But like, I don't know if I could do like just straight sweater. I think I would cry.

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I've boxed myself in at the moment where I'm like, well, I don't feel like knitting that shawl. So I

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guess I got nothing. Oh, you know, that's I think you can I think it's safe for you to do too. I

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don't think two is bad. I think 12 is bad like me. No, I don't think it's bad. You could do as many

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as you want. I probably honestly 12 is probably low for me. It's probably up near the 20s. But

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but yeah, I haven't looked at my my whips are just standing over there. And I'm just

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not touching them until I get over there for now. I want to finish these two. That's what I'm

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committing to right now. I'm finishing these two. But yeah, Dre, honestly, like, I would go for it.

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Because that feeling you're feeling is totally what Meg is talking about. Like exactly. It's time.

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Very relatable right now. I actually think I'm going to take this opportunity and cast on my,

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my make along project. Yeah, I really want to work on that snail. I mean, I still haven't,

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I like I just moved and I still haven't unpacked all the yarn.

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That's the first thing that's before the toilet paper, you get the yarn out.

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But I think that's that's a good point that I think piggybacking along that feeling is

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you don't want to knit what you're working on or crochet what you're working on. But you really want

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to start something else. Like you see that project and you're like, I'm feeling that I'm not feeling

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this. But that over there, I could work on that. Yeah. And yeah, and that's tough for a monogamous

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knitter. I'm not a monogamous knitter. I'm just like I see a new pattern and I'm like, hello,

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and I forget about the thing. I'm like the opposite. What about you, Jess?

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If it gets to a point where I actively loathe what I'm I am working on or I am like falling

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asleep while working on it. I know it's time to do something else for a little bit. And sometimes

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it's a completely different craft altogether for a tiny bit. Depending but usually it's bouncing

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either to something that I was really interested in or something smaller that I was really

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interested in or something smaller that I could just sort of like bang out real quick. But it is

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it's one of those things where it's like I'm thinking, okay, I need to finish this thing.

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And then you just sort of get that like doom feeling. Yes. That like, I can't describe it,

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but I feel like the people who have it know exactly what it is. Yeah. That that just like,

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I'm going to cry if I have to knit one more stitch of this garment. Yes. I know that feeling.

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And so if I feel that I'm like, okay, it's time to kind of look at something else for a little bit

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until until I at the very least don't get the doom feeling when I look at it anymore.

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Yeah, I was gonna say that doom feeling I I've totally received the doom feeling and then I

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step away and then I'm okay. Like I just need I just just needed that break. But like, I had

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the doom feeling with the Ingalls sweater. I've had a doom feeling with every sweater when I'm

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halfway through the body. Every single time. I'm just like, oh, I can't do no. That is the whole

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stuff. You're halfway through the body. You're just like, ah, no. But like now that I'm like closer

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to the end, I'm like, okay, the doom feelings gone. I feel like I'm actually might be doing

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something now. So I think this will be okay. Which is relatable, really. Yeah, very relatable.

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I don't think people talk about that enough. I think it's always about like, I think it's always

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about like the the finished project or what you're starting on. But not a lot of people talk about the

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in between what's going on in between? What do we do? What do we what are we feeling? And I feel like

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that is the epitome of this is that you can it can suck sometimes. Sometimes you fly right through

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and everything is great. And sometimes you know what the doom settles, man. And it could be for

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a lot of reasons. Like it could, it might not necessarily be the project. It could just be

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there's so much other things going on that that project in particular is not fitting.

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Like, yeah, you know, because like, there's times where all I want to do is just a really quiet

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stocknet project. And that's what I do. But then there but then there's other times that looking

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at my yarn makes me hurt because like, I'm like, Oh, my God, I can't even think about doing something

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right now because like, there's so much other things happening. But and I think a lot of people

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tend to shy away from that because it's like, you know, got to got to pretend like, Oh, yeah,

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I love knitting all the time. It's always fun. But it's like, it's not, you know, if you don't,

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sometimes you just get that feeling and you're like, All right, break time.

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Well, I think a lot has to do with your mindset as well in the in the vein of, you know, where your

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brain is at sometimes, you know, if you are stressed out, sometimes a an easy project is all

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you have the capacity for other times when you're stressed out. I don't know about you guys, this is

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this might be a me thing. But sometimes I need a more complicated project because I'm like, I want

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my brain to kind of shut off. Oh, yeah. I want to work on something where I actually have to think

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about it. Because if I'm just doing like, miles of stockinette, or even ribbing, that that gives me

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way too much time to think. And I don't want to think right now. I want to think about my pattern.

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I want something complicated and meaty that I can really like, sink my teeth into. So I think a lot

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has to do with your mindset, your emotional state. And what you have the capacity for at this moment

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in time. And sometimes it's important to acknowledge, you know what, this is not beyond my capabilities.

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But it's beyond my capabilities in this moment. And I need to do something else. People

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aren't static. So it's not like, you know, if that feeling comes up, it's like, that's that's

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perfectly normal. Like, people are not static beings. Like, there's always change, there's always

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like, sort of a yo-yoing going on. And that's nothing to say like, oh, this it's gonna drop

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off, and you're never gonna pick it up again. It's really just I think your mind and body kind of

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being like, hey, this is me telling you it's time to take a break, take a different kind of

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perspective on things, maybe try something else, or take a rest for a day and come back to it.

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And that's perfectly normal. Or come back to it in six months. Yeah, that too.

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I was gonna say with the summer coming up too, that is a really big push for a lot for some people

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to kind of just, okay, I'm gonna take a break and enjoy the summer for a bit. I'm just gonna go

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outside, not knit, not crochet. I'll come back to this in September.

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I think a lot of people have the problem where it's summer and you know, not only is the weather

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nice, but it's also hot. And sometimes wrapping your hands around yarn is uncomfortable. Yeah,

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knitting with cutting hands is pretty terrible. Yeah, I think that's how I feel about my

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angles right now. It's just too hot because it's so heavy. I think that is definitely why. It's

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not because I don't want to work on it. I actually wouldn't mind some stocknet right now. But

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when I lay it out on my lap, I'm like, blah. You know what's really, you guys are saying this and

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I totally get what you're saying. It's just funny because I do most of my knitting over the summer.

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Because I have more time. It's like the time that I actually have. I actually get the least amount

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of knitting done in the fall. Yeah, well, you're with your occupation. That makes sense. Right.

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That's when I'm most stressed. So I get the least amount of knitting done. But I know what you mean

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because a lot of, especially if you live in a hot climate summer, the yarn can be unbearable,

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depending on what you're using. And unless you're the type of person that likes to swatch,

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swatch, blah. Unless you're the type of person that likes to switch your yarns with the weather,

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it could be a struggle. Or knit exclusively in AC. Right. Okay. But like,

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I'm just laughing because when I was at Lake George last year, I definitely was like,

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nah, this is too hot and go to the AC. And Pat was like, or you could not knit. And I'm like,

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nah, nah, I'm going to go to the AC. It's not an option, sir. Sorry, sir. That's no.

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Because of everything going on outside of knitting, it makes knitting feel almost like

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monumentous. Like to even just to do one row. And I'm like, oh, I got to do it. I can't. And then

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once I'm doing it, I'm fine. But like, I have to get past like five stitches. And then I'm like,

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okay, okay, I'm good. I'm in it. I'm in it. But then like, if I keep getting interrupted,

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I don't know if this happens to anybody else. But like, if I start and I do three stitches,

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and then like, you know, and this is not an option, but I'm like, okay, okay, I'm good.

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But you know, and this is not a bad thing. It's just like a kid will want something or my husband

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wants something or the dog wants a snuggle. And God forbid I have something on my lap. And like,

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what is just like, constant interruption will like totally mess up my flow. And then I'm like,

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okay, forget it. I'm just not not going to knit right now.

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Let's like be constantly interrupted while you're reading a book.

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Oh, my god. Yes. It kills the immersion. Yeah.

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You know, sometimes I can I can jump in and out with with knitting. But yeah, there are those days

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when it is it is it is like being interrupted reading, where you're like, well, you know what,

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now I'm just not going to do it. If you're going to keep interrupting me, I can't do this. And

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again, I think that goes with mindset. Can it is this what you are capable of doing right now

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in the moment? Or do you need to do something else?

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Yeah, I think I'm going to break out a crochet square. That's where that's where I feel like

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I'm going to go. There you go. I keep saying this every episode and I don't freaking do it.

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I think I'm just I think I'm looking I'm actually feeling my yarn right now on my wall.

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I'm like, I'm going to make you into a square. I think that's what I'm going to do.

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You know, I think that, you know, for ideas for how to how to kind of break out of that,

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I do that sometimes too, where I start going through my yarn collection and I'm like,

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what is speaking to me right now? What do I actually want to do? That is not what I'm doing.

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And this is why I wind up casting on too many projects.

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Yeah, I'm definitely by feel though. I'm not like sometimes this look but mostly it's like I'm

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feeling my skeins and then like one skein I'm like, oh, that's good. And then I'm like, okay,

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I'm going to wind this one. So I've been trying to because I have a bunch of cakes that that

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happened to her like I touched the yarn and I went, you're going to be a cake. And then I

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used it for a little bit. And then now I have this cake left over. And now there's a section of my

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yarn stash that's cakes because it's cakes that I started on. So and now I've been if I get that

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feeling, I just kind of go over to my cakes and like this one, I'll do that for now to say another

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thing you can do if you know you just need a break from the actual doing but you're you're not ready

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to like take a break from it in general, man, go look at some patterns. I was just gonna say I was

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literally going to say that. Yes, I do that too. Like, go through the patterns, see if there's any

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new ones that like, you know, strike your fancy. You can just save them to look at them. You don't

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even have to like be planning on doing them. But sometimes you know, it gets you excited for the

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craft when you're just you're just not in the mindset to actually partake in the craft.

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And depending on the type of person you are, either look at a category you're comfortable in

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or look at a category you've never worked in before.

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Yeah, something new, something new, something exciting. I got bored with this sweater the other

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day. And there's another sweater that I want to make next. So I dyed up the yarn for it.

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So now I have all this yarn that is ready to go.

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But I will not let myself cast on for that sweater until I finish the sweater. And that can be a

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motivation too. If you if you know what you want to do next, and you're like, and you are a project

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monogamous like Dreah, you can like, kind of get your stuff ready and say, okay, this is the pattern,

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this is the yarn, but I'm not going to do it until I'm done with this one. And sometimes not always,

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but sometimes that can jumpstart you into like, okay, I'm going to finish this project, so I can

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move on to the next one does not work for everybody. Your mileage might vary.

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Dreah.

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If I were completely honest, I did not listen to what Meg was saying for the last like 10 seconds,

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because I was looking at patterns.

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So yes, I do that.

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I'm looking at the snail pattern. And I'm, you know, giving myself some hype so I can

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say, yeah, let's get this going.

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That's exactly what I just said. That was exactly what I said.

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Oh, you're on task.

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You're on task.

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So for the last part of this, we want to talk a little bit about patterns that we fall back on

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when we do fall into a rut. This is kind of brought to us by some of our patrons on our discord.

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We're talking about good fallback patterns for when they do get overwhelmed, or they want to take

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a step back. This can be like a comfort pattern or just something that you know gets you out of a rut.

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So who has a good pattern that they like to do when they get into that mood?

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I mean, I do like the Sunday Swing Socks.

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She was gonna do it. I knew it.

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We'll talk about Sunday Swing in a long time.

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It's been a really long time since you made one.

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Yeah, but you know what? I might be building up to a new pair.

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Old reliable.

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It is old reliable. It's such a good pattern.

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It is absolutely old reliable.

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You know what else is old reliable?

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What?

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More simple lines.

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That's a good one.

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It's just interesting enough, except for Jess doesn't feel so, but it's just interesting enough.

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For me though, I think it's just interesting enough that it picks up between the stocknet.

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Oh man, I can't do it anymore stock. Oh great, I'm not doing stocknet. I'm gonna do a lace-through.

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And then it's like...

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Yeah, it does. It gives you a little bit of variety.

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Yeah, and the border's fun. I like doing the border.

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So I actually checked my ravelry to see what patterns I've done multiple times.

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And I didn't even remember that I had done this one,

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but I've literally knit the same hat four times in the last year.

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Which hat?

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You own one. Andrea owns one.

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It's the Utrecht beanie by Dutch Girl Creations.

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I knitted that for her.

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And I have then gone on now to knit that same hat four times.

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No, I'm sorry, five times. I've knit it five times.

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Yay.

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This hat is amazing because it is.

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It comes in five different weights. We haven't used sound effects. I forgot. I was so into the topic.

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It comes in five different weights all the way from DK to super bulky.

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It is super fast, especially if you do it in the super bulky.

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It's just complicated enough to be interesting without being daunting.

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Crown is very beautiful the way that it all comes together in the decreases.

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I love this hat. I would recommend that hat to anybody.

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And again, I've knitted five times. It's a lot.

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I didn't realize it was older reliable, but apparently it's older reliable.

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Old reliable.

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You got to say it that way every time it comes up.

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I made a ton of mini potion bottles.

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Yep, you did. And crochet.

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And crochet. Yep, a whole ton of them. They are great because I can usually get them done in like

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three to four hours and I can switch up the color every single time. They're super cute and I love them.

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And then I made a whole bunch of granny squares too.

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Oh guys, you know what we're not saying?

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What?

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I know I'm looking at my ravelry now. Cocoa bean.

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Oh, I love the cocoa bean.

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That's such a go-to.

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You know, I've knit two of them and I don't know if I would ever do another one.

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Really?

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That one made me feel like I was in a rut. The second time I knitted, I felt like I got the doom feeling.

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I did. I did. But that's the thing.

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Everybody's different.

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Everyone is different. Yeah. Yeah. So like what is like a great like old reliable for you guys is

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not for me and that's okay.

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I mean, everybody's going to be making 40 pairs of Sunday swing socks.

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You know, I made Sunday swing socks.

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You know, I made Sunday swing a couple of times and I do like the pattern, but I don't have the same spot in my heart for it that you do.

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Yeah. I'm in a category of my own.

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Nobody loves Sunday swing like you.

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I feel like that pattern was made for me.

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It really was.

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I haven't.

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I'm going to say one more and then I'll stop. I swear.

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The only other one I haven't made. I actually haven't finished one yet,

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but I really, really enjoy the Stormy Skyshaw.

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It is it has three different sections that you repeat and one of them being a drop stitch section and the other section is a garter.

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And then the other section is a lace piece and that works for me because like I sometimes I'll look at it and I'll be like, oh, I'm in a garter section.

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I'm in the mood for that.

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And then I look at it and I'm like, oh, I'm in a lace section.

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I'm in the mood for that.

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I just keep going.

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Is that the one that you're doing in the in the natural yarn?

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And it's coming out really pretty, but I keep getting distracted by things.

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Now I'm going to want to knit it now.

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See, this is the problem.

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People, this is the problem.

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I feel like the kind of prevailing repetitive thing I'm seeing with all these patterns is that they have a lot of variety in them.

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To keep your interest.

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Saying like, yeah, like they're not massive projects, but they've got a lot of different parts and kind of different stuff in them to keep your

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It's the Justice Potion bottles, which come in different colors and they're short and snappy.

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Something interesting and something that usually isn't going to take you forever.

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