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I'm Drea. I'm Meg. I'm Tina. And I'm Jess. And this is Pardon My Stash.

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Welcome to Pardon My Stash, a podcast about knitting, the fiber arts, and how awesome it is.

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Before we delve into this week's topics, let's see what everyone's working on currently, Dreya.

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I am currently contemplating my pattern. Oh no. No, I don't think it's that bad.

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I'm literally just sitting here with the pattern in front of me and I'm reading it and my project

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is right next to me and I'm just not, I'm just not doing it. You're just like, hmm.

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I forgot it was something I was supposed to be doing. That is a pattern. So these are the

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directions. You know what, let me pull this out. I mean, I mean, do you want to do some brioche?

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No. Wow. That was blunt. I have to remind myself how to do brioche every time I pick up a brioche

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pattern. Fair. I was just offering a tiny project, you know, something easy. Hats.

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We okay over here? It was a day, man. I am working on

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the Akimishaw by Isabel Kramer and I'm using Silver Moon fiber arts,

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jingling weight in the colorway, feed of jeans.

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Wow. That's a new sound. I've been dying to use that ever since I put it on this thing. Sorry.

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Sorry. My project sounds so sad now, but if we needed any sounds, we need a sad turn.

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We finally got some horns in here. Even if they're sad horns, still horns.

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All right. Meg. So I made a minor mistake in my sun drop pullover by Laura Alar. I am on the

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third change of pattern, so I'm getting close to the hem. I love it. That's why I'm taking the time

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to tink it back instead of putting it in a bag and hiding it somewhere where I don't have to look at

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it for the foreseeable future, which is what I usually do when I make mistakes. It's so pretty.

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I love it. I can't wait to wear it. It's going to look really good on you. My favorite part is

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that these are going to be short sleeves. It's like three inches of knitting that's so much better

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than the long sleeves. I am knitting it out of dragon hoard yarn gnome tweed sock in the color

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fairy yule tree. Very good. It's beautiful. Thank you. Tina. Engel sweater, string NYC,

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Dolcetto DK in gray, dark gray and red. And this will never end the end. It will. You're getting

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close. It's almost done. It goes on and on my friend. No, I am. You know what it is? I feel

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like once I bind off the body, I will realize how much I did. But right now it just feels like I

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have been knitting body body. You're in the black for a long time. We are weird tonight. Jess. I am

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working on the knit flower basket tee cozy because I kind of put it down for a while.

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Kind of. Just kind of. I haven't seen that in like a month because I was doing it on recording days

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because it was easy to do and we haven't gotten a chance to record in a bit. So I forgot about it

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and I was doing other stuff, but I'm picking this back up and I have half of one side done.

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That's more than hey, listen, that is more than any other person at this table has done on their

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knit along. Listen, you never asked. You never asked. Have you started a knit along? No. Yeah.

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Have I started my knit along? No. Have I started mine? No. No. I started overachiever. I've even

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got a whole side of basket stitch done, which is really impressive. It looks cute, but I'm not

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going to lie. That's hard for you. I got bored with it after the second row and I was like,

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oh my God. But it's going to look wicked cute. It's going to be short because I'm doing a short

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little teapot. So I'm like, oh yeah, they told me to like double this and I'm not doing that.

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I still got to start my snail, but I need to like. You got time. You do have time. I made a long one

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for anyone that suffers these kinds of issues. So that's me. I mean, to be fair, it fits in so

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many ways. I'm going to use that thing all night tonight. I was going to say to be fair, I just

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moved. So I'm still like finding all my stuff. I could, I could do it again, but I'll say don't.

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I do love the horns though. It kind of gives the life. The horns are awesome.

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But if you want to see pictures of these projects or get some information about Part in My Stash,

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be sure to check out our website, partinmystash.com for info, picks, patterns, and yarns.

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So this week's topic, uh, we're going to talk about how do you know when you're ready to start

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jumping into some more difficult or different, uh, fiber activities. You got to feel it. Yes.

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That's fair. That's a, that's a big fairness. That's the biggest. You got to feel it.

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Cause if you're not feeling it, it's just not, even if you're scared about it, you have to have

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that sort of like flutter of, but I want to do it. Um, that's a good point. Yeah. Cause honestly,

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if you force yourself to do something, it'll just hate it more. Yeah. Or you'll find like,

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you know, when you, cause a lot of times you will make mistakes and they will be far less easy to

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fix and, or come to terms with if you're not enjoying it at all. And in fact, it'll just

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like back up your thought of, no, I don't want to, I didn't want to move on to harder stuff yet.

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But if you got that feeling, if you got that itch, then you know, the whole journey is just kind of

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like, yeah, or if you find yourself really bored, I was just about to say, if you are like, I,

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I don't want to knit anymore. I hate knitting because I can't stand doing the same project

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again. It's probably time to get adventurous, completely try something new.

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Hmm. It's probably not the knitting. It's probably the project.

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I was going to say that could be the feeling that that is it's it's when you feel like you're not

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being challenged anymore. Right. Yup. So, and, and moving on, could it like, it doesn't have to be

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like, you know, jumping into something super huge. Like it could just be like, you know what I'm done

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with just doing a garter stitch. I'm going to learn how to Pearl. Um, and that counts because

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sometimes that can be difficult. Yeah. It's, we're not necessarily speaking,

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like it has to be this like complex stitch that, you know, only master knitters know. It's just

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literally like the next step for you. It could be a small step. It could be a huge step. And also it

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doesn't necessarily mean you need to switch project type. Like if you like making hats and you just

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want to make hats for the rest of your life, like that's fine. But there you can, there's all,

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there's is a, such a thing of a basic hat and a, a very complex. Well, it's like, maybe you always do

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bottom up hats. So do a top down hat, or maybe you've done hats, like all in continental style.

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And now you're going to try a European style. Like it could be as easy as switching up the manner

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of your, your knitting. It could be from like regular crochet crochet to like Tunisian crochet.

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Like I was so happy doing garter stitch. You were years. And then it was multiple years. Yep.

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Nothing fancy. Just knit the front, knit the back until it's long enough to be a scarf.

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And, and for some people that may also be the case that it takes a long time before you feel that

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like kind of itch. But then for some people they might like, I feel like Jess in particular would

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be like, I've done this. I'm accomplished and done. Do you know what? I don't think mine was,

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was like that at all. I think I saw Meg moving on and then you felt peer pressure.

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And then I like, yeah, like you moved on to stuff onto different stuff. So I, I learned how to purl.

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Yep. Um, because it took me a really long time. I tried to learn how to purl and I did really

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poorly. And then my, um, former mother-in-law gave me a book that had a really, really good diagram,

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step-by-step how to purl, which I think a lot of people just assume like, oh, it's super easy.

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And it's, it's not like it's, it's a little daunting. You just have to figure it out.

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And, but that's the thing is like, I didn't make a big jump though. Like I went from,

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I learned how to purl and I was like, oh, now I can do stockinette. Yeah. And I stayed there for

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a very long time. It's true. Like I saw you doing, I did not know stuff. And I was like, oh,

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well, I want to do that. It wasn't even like, I wanted to challenge myself. I was just like, oh,

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there are options. Yeah. There are other things that I could do. Yeah. And then you started doing

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hats and I was like, oh, I can do a hat. I made a goat hat. Yeah, you did. And then I made a pattern

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for a hat with runes for Paul. You did. That was pretty cool though. I like that one. You had a

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time where, and I remember you made a koi fish hat. Like you had a time where you were just making

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crazy hats, like off the cuff. I am also in a hat phase. Yup. I am definitely in. I need to, I feel

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like I need to redo that koi hat because that was a lot of fun. And it's like looking at it now. I'm

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like, wow, I, I just sort of went until it was a shape, but I feel like I understand more about

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how hats knit up that I can make that look a little better now. But see, I think the great

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thing about hats is, and kind of, if you think about it, the great thing about any pattern,

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anything you do, even just a scarf, you could do nothing but scarves and do something different

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every single time and learn a different technique every single time. It's one of the great things

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about knitting. You could knit a hat a week for the rest of your life and never repeat or come

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close to repeating the same type of pattern. There's just so many different ones. So if it,

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there's not like a pressure to be like, okay, I've, I've gotten really good at hats. Now I need to

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move on to sweaters or I'm not a complete knitter. You could just keep knitting hats and be every bit

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as prolific because you're learning new techniques. I really dislike the idea that being a good knitter

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means you can make multiple things. I really don't think. No, I don't. I agree with that. No, I'm

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agreeing with you. Absolutely. But I feel like there is a lot of pressure that, oh, if I don't do

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like complex lace, I'm not a real knitter. If I don't stick, I'm not a complete knitter.

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I feel like the sweater thing is a thing. Like, if you don't make a sweater, like who are,

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you're not really a knitter. You're like, it's still a beginner or you're still whatever.

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And I just don't like, what if you just don't want to make a sweater? Like it could be for

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multiple different reasons. It could be one, you just have a sensory issue. You don't want to,

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you don't like wearing sweaters. So why would you make a sweater? Or like it's just impractical

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for like your lifestyle, like you're in Arizona or you're just like, I don't know. It's just like,

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you don't need, need to make it. Sweaters are also, um, you know, when you, when it comes down to it,

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the construction on a whole is very like, it doesn't vary very much. Wow. How many times can

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I say that? Um, it doesn't vary. Differ. Differ. Um, it doesn't differ very much. So, you know,

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you have the body, you have the sleeves, the construction, you know, might vary between a

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round yoke and a raglan. Every so often you might get one that's a little bit more cleverly put

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together. But generally a base pattern for a sweater is a base pattern for a sweater. And

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there, there aren't a lot of different fancy ways to do that. I used to follow, um, I still follow

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her. Um, her name is grump arena. She used to have a blog. She doesn't really anymore. Um, she's a

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knitter out of Boston and she knit her first sweater within the first year that she learned

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how to knit because she was the type of knitter like Jess that was like, how complicated can I

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make this? Like I want to learn all the complicated stuff. And after, I want to say like a year or two,

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she did this great blog post. And if her blog goes back online or maybe it is back online,

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I should check after this. Um, and if I ever find it, I'll link it on our blog, um, where she kind

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of like came out and said, guys, I, I don't like to knit sweaters. And she's like, I feel like there

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is so much pressure that you're not a complete knitter until you knit a sweater. And she's like,

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I just don't like it. Like I don't find it enjoyable. Like I like wearing sweaters, but it's,

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it, it takes so long and it's not really enough of a challenge. You know, the, the, a fancy yoke or

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maybe like a different detail could be fun to do. But she's like, I just, I don't want to do it. I

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want to knit accessories. I want to knit like hats and shawls and like, you know, fun things like

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that. And it's not even a, it's not about the, you know, this is too difficult because this is the

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person that knit the crown prince stole that had like 2200 noops in it. Like this, this woman has

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to admit it. It really is. I would never do that powder. I feel like Draya just went like a Stoney

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and lace period. It's all noops. But I'm not a lace person though. No, and neither am I. And, and

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that, no, like lace, lace, like pattern knitting, like lace yarn. Okay. Oh, lace weights. Yeah.

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Yeah. You said making lace cause I'm like, no, no, but it's not fancy lace. Okay. You said lace.

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You didn't specify fancy. Okay. I mean, there's like, sorry, but semantics, but I just, I don't

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know. Yarn over, Tina, calm down. Even at the time. And I remember, cause I could not, I could

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barely Pearl at the time that I read it, but I remember it really resonated with me that this

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was somebody that I really respected as a, as a really great knitter who was just like, you know

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what? I don't like to knit sweaters. What of it? Yeah. And I think there's a bit of bravery with

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that because I have, I have heard directly from people, not online, like in person, someone say

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like, yeah, like, you know, hitting the pinnacle of knitting is like, you know, this or that late,

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it's either sweaters or I'm speaking or like some, something that makes you like, okay. And okay,

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I'm going to clear it up real quick, real easy. Okay. If you think you need to be at the pinnacle

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of knitting, do the master and inner course and get your certification. There you go.

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Congratulations. The rest of us are going to just enjoy what we make. Like nobody needs to be

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peer pressured into like doing anything that they don't want to do. So like, and I, and I will attest

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to this after making multiple sweaters and garments, I have to be in the mood for it. Usually I am, but

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you know, there are times that I'm just like, I don't, I don't want to do that right now. I

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just want to make a hat. I just want to make some gloves and I'm just, I just do what the,

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what mood strikes me. And so far it's been hats recently. I've been making,

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everybody goes through phases. Yeah. So yeah, I just don't feel like if you're listening to this,

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like if you feel any kind of pressure to do a project that you don't really think that you'll

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enjoy, like just don't, just don't man, like just do what you want to do. Also, it doesn't matter what

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heights you think you've reached, how great you've become. You're still

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as susceptible to dumb mistakes as you were when you were a beginner. Like I knit my first,

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I knit three sweaters last year because I knit the little one for Marilyn and two for myself.

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And for me, that was like a massive goal was being able to knit an adult sweater.

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And I finished my second adult sweater and I felt pretty good. And then two weeks later, I had a

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two needles of two different sizes on my thing. And I knit like a quarter of a project without

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realizing it. So, well, I was going to say like step because I was, and everyone's pointed it out

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that I have always been, I am never going to do a sweater. And that was true. I had no interest.

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I would look at sweaters and be like, Oh, that's kind of cool looking. I don't want to do it.

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Don't want to do it. And then I saw a pattern and I was like, Oh, that's a real cool pattern. It's

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like swords and based on tarot and a lot of things that I'm super interested in. It's really pretty.

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I still don't want to do a sweater, but that kept happening for months. And I was finally like,

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the same pattern, the same pattern, the same pattern. So I was finally like,

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maybe I could try to do a sweater, like, but it would have to be this one. Like this is the one.

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I'm not going to do like a workup sweater. It's just, this is the one that keeps popping up that

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I'm like, but it's so nice. And I feel like you need something like that, like to know, like you

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can totally look at something and be like, I'm not sure if I'm ready. So don't hop on it right away.

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Wait, come back to it. See if you have the same feels when you look at it the second time or the

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third time, like, because there are a lot of things that you'll look back on. Like there's

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plenty of saved projects I have that I look back on like a couple months later. I'm like,

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I don't want to do that. Why did I like this before? Like, I'm never going to be able to do that.

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Exactly. Like it's beautiful. Did I just like it because I like looking at it? That's

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fair. It'll stay in there for that reason. But, and that's fair. I feel like if it is something,

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especially a bigger step, like if it is something that's a big leap kind of project,

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you do want to make sure you're ready for it. And you're not just doing it because of peer pressure

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or anything like that. Like you got to be ready for it. And it's okay if you're not. And if you

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don't want to, like there, no one really should be making you feel bad if you're like, yeah, guys,

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no, I'm just not feeling this. I mean, a couple of years ago, I think I was, cause I did a shawl

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and you guys all did sweat last year. That was fine. It was like, yep. Wasn't feeling a sweater

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that because we're supportive. And if you're around people trying to make you make a sweater,

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then they're not supportive. You should do what you want to do. Like if you are just not feeling

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that other project, then don't do it. Cause then you'll just, you'll start to like resent it. And

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it'll turn into one of those endless whips. I feel like a lot of my projects I started like

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when I was ready to move on to newer things, it was always because somebody else was doing it.

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And I was like, Oh, I could do that. But I always picked a pattern that was

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more based on construction than like skill. If that makes sense. Like I've always been like,

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like skill, if that makes sense, like I would pick a pattern that would show me how to make the thing.

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And then I would be stuck on that garment, that accessory for however long. And I would do as

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many crazy patterns as I could, except for when I did the sweater, I just kind of went ham on that.

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I feel like sometimes with sweater, you just have to dive in. Yeah. But that one,

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you were on a big cable kick. So you found one that had like lots of cables, lots of cables.

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and it was going to hold my interest. Yeah. So I was really, I had wanted for years to do a sweater

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and I was really, um, cause it's me, I really doubted my ability to be able to put a sweater

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together. And one of the things that helped me get the confidence to do a sweater, um, was doing

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the Feodora capelet first, because it was kind of like, like a first, it was, it was like a waiting

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pool for a sweater. Like it, I learned how to do a collar and how to increase the yoke. And I did the

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color work. The, the only real difference is I never split for the sleeves. Um, and when I was

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finished with it, like I had a garment that had some shaping to it that had just as much, you know,

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work put into it as the yoke of any sweater. And after that, I'm kind of like, okay, well,

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if I did all of that, the only thing that I haven't done yet is splitting for sleeves and then

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picking up the stitches for sleeves and knitting them. And knitting is knitting. So I already know

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how to do that. And that gave me the confidence to be like, okay, well, if I did this project,

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I can take the next step. And sometimes maybe that is kind of what you need to do. If you're

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somebody like me who has very little confidence and gets anxious about trying something new is

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maybe break it down into smaller steps and be like, let me try this first. That's why I'm doing the

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coffee cup, stick thing instead of going like full hog and being like, let me stick a sweater.

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I'm going to do the coffee mug holder. What's it called? Cozy. That's the word I'm looking for.

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And I'm looking for, um, because that's not as big a commitment. And if I completely screw it up,

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I've only caught up a tea cozy or a cup cozy, not a full blown color work sweater that I have spent

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months on. So sometimes baby steps really help. Well, I found two with anything that I'm doing.

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Um, that's a bit more complicated. Um, I like to go like skim through the pattern and make sure I,

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at the very least have an idea of like, um, for the sweater, I knew the type of short rows that

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they use. Um, so I was like, okay, this is good. Um, I still had to YouTube it and make sure I

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remembered because German shirt rows are a little weird and I always kind of pull the lakes the

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wrong way sometimes. But, um, but I had a basic understanding of it. So when I got to it, it

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wasn't slowing me down, which I knew like, if I got stuck on a part, it would, you know, kind of

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ruin your whole drive. So I feel like if that's something that you know about yourself, if you

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get stuck on a part or like, if you get stuck on something, it kills your drive to maybe go over

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the pattern first and just make sure, you know, any of the stitches that it requires. Um, and so,

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so you're ready to go and you don't, uh, risk running into this sort of like hiccup or, or

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hurdle that, um, that's going to throw you off. That is such a good tip. And I am so bad at

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remembering to do it. I'm like, yeah, I'm good. And then I get to a point in the pattern. I'm like,

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Oh no, I like to, um, make baby versions of whatever I'm trying to make. That's a smart idea too.

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So actually when I made your set for Mariel, that was my foray into sweaters and socks. Yeah. Cause

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I had never made a sweater or sock before. And I was like, well, if I can make one for a newborn,

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I can make one for an adult. Now just do this, but bigger. Yeah, pretty much. But like you learn the

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technique. Right. So it was really smart. Yeah. So that was, yeah, no, that's okay.

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I had with, um, with the outlet sweater that I did for Mariel. I mean, it was, it was, it was not

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like an infant, but it was still, it was still small and it was like, okay, let me, and it was

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also kind of like, do I hate this? Am I going to hate this? Is this maybe a lesser commitment?

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Figure out if you even want to knit a sweater. Yeah. So before you jump into that three X sweater

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or pair of socks, even like, cause socks are a big commitment too. They're small, but it's two

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projects. It's two projects and they can be quite complex and they have a lot of parts.

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And the sock piece it's, if you know for a fact that you will not complete the second one,

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you really should learn how to do magic loop and do them at the same time. I don't know how to do

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that. No, I, I do not know how to do it, but I've seen many people when I was in North Carolina,

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did magic loop and I saw kind of the idea of it and I kind of sorta get it, but like I've never

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actually tried it, but I never had a problem like doing a second sock, but if you know for a fact,

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you're going to finish that one first one Jess and then be immediately. Nope. I don't want to

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do anymore. Um, magic loop it. Cause I believe you can do it with gloves too. Yes, you can.

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So, uh, so yeah, you knit like slippers, right? I did. You knit like sock slippers that were like,

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what out of like, Oh God, I don't know. Like Aaron weight yarn. They were huge. It was kind of like,

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they were super soft, not a sock knitter yet though. We can't say that anymore now that you're not in

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anything that are because the sweater was a surprise. Something may catch my fancy and it

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may be years before, you know, Jess, I think might get you into socks. When I got the stocking from

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my friend and I had to figure it out, that was really fun. Just FYI. Uh, she gave me like a

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stocking that her grandmother had made for her and she wanted one for her husband. Her grandmother

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had already passed. There was no pattern. There wasn't even a hint of a pattern. It was just,

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she probably didn't use a pattern to be honest. It was a pretty basic construction.

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Grandma's doing socks with no patterns. Pretty much. So I was like, I was like, okay. And like,

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I did figure it out. It does look slightly different. It's going to, but it looks a little

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different, but it's pretty spot on. And that was fun to figure out. And I feel like, yes. And I

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feel like Jess would be into that. So maybe I'll find you a stocking that needs a friend.

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Well, my aunt has been asking her for like a year now to reverse engineer. My grandmother made like,

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I don't know, 75 plus Afghans. They were always the same pattern, but my aunt is dying to make it.

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But there's no, she didn't have a pattern like because she had done it so many times, she just

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hauled off and did it. So my aunt wants to make this Afghan and she's been asking Jess to reverse

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engineer the pattern. It's not complicated, but I'm pretty sure I found out how to do it. Did you?

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Okay. Write it down because she keeps asking me for it. I'm pretty, I'm pretty sure I figured that

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out. And she wants to use our yarn. She swatched for that sweater. I just want to say that.

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She swatched for that sweater. Congratulations. I did. Welcome to the exclusive club. Listen,

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it's a garment I'm going to swatch for. Honestly, the biggest thing that went against me with that

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was that I did drop another size in the midst of making it. So it's a little baggy, but I like

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comfy stuff. So it looks, it looks good. It looks good on you. I'm just going to block it smaller.

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I'm not going to help. Yeah, we're not, we're not going to do, we're not going to do extreme blocking.

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To help her block the sweater. You're good for extreme blocking. It's going to be, if anybody

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ever has like some really good lace they want blocked. I am your man. That looks like a leaf.

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Like that's going to be great. That one. Oh my God. When I ever do that shawl, that's going to be my

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day. It says block aggressively. Yeah, I got it. I got it in the bag. But, um, but yeah, no, I,

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I do think I figured that stitch out. So I got to write it down for her.

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I feel like my pinnacle knitting is going to be two at a time socks.

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You know what? Okay. This, I don't know if I said this to you guys yet, but like,

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so I've been helping Joe learn basic crochet. Yeah. Well, now I want to crochet, learn it.

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Yeah, you did. Cause remember you asked me for the granny square. Yeah. Cause I want to do it.

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Oh, you should do it. Well, no, because I was doing it with Joe and then I was like, oh,

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wow, this goes up really fast. She you're ready to evolve like a Pokemon. I am. No, I have to,

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I have to say, besides sneaking, I've pretty much done a lot of things. I can't think of a lot of

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things besides the magic loop with the socks and the sneaking. I can't think of a lot of things I

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haven't done. So I'm just kind of like, and even if I let like someone has a new technique or

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something, it's basically a glorified knit pearl, something like, you know, um, so yeah, when I,

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when I started helping, uh, my youngest daughter with the crochet, she's very much into crochet.

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She refuses to knit. She says she doesn't understand it. Doesn't make sense. Why use two

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and you can use one. I thought that was a really cute response from a six year old aggressively

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talking to me about how crochet is better than knitting, but that's okay. Uh, everybody has their

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preference. Well, she, Joe has a preference. I've tried to learn crochet and it just doesn't stick.

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I prefer to knit. I can at this point, but you prefer crochet, don't you? Most of the time.

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It depends. I mean, crochet works a little faster for me. Um, I did find a crochet blanket that I

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want to try and do at some point. You're going to make a blanket. Yeah. That's why I haven't done

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this year is like, I said, that's why I haven't done it yet, but it looks so pretty. It's just

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all of the things we thought to be true or not true anymore. I just, so I saved it and I look

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at it every once in a while and see how I'm feeling. Cause that's, that's big. That's bigger than a

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sweater. You're evolving like a Pokemon. Dude, blank blanket is tough. It's someone who's tried.

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I've made baby ones, but I can't do the full size. It's just like. Pretty. I want to say

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it's kind of a full size blanket for my brother in three months. Oh, that's right. Yeah. Big red.

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Uh, big red. Big red. He still uses that. He loves that blanket.

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The one that was originally just a little too big. Yeah.

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No, I, I, I wouldn't say that it like, I look at it as like, I don't think there'll ever be a time

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when I'm like, I'm done learning how to do anything or I I've reached like a pinnacle or anything like

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that. The one thing that I really do want to do, um, is knit lace and not out of lace weight,

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because I don't like lace weight, but out of like a fingering weight. Okay. But dude, Jess, that is

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so up your alley. Isn't that cool though? That's there's so much stuff. Yeah. There's so much stuff

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going on with that. You will have a field day of the reason why I thought I want to make a blanket

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and you could do it all different color. You have to send that to me.

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So I can put it on the blog. Um, sorry. I didn't mean to, I just, cause I know me being like,

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I want to do a blanket was like, Jess, what the hell? I know. It's so shocking.

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Okay. It was, I didn't even know you wanted to do that. I decided three days ago that I would,

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that I would save it breaking news and see what happened.

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