1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,840 I'm Drea. 2 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:01,660 I'm Meg. 3 00:00:01,660 --> 00:00:02,500 I'm Tina. 4 00:00:02,500 --> 00:00:03,960 And I'm Jess. 5 00:00:03,960 --> 00:00:06,200 And this is Pardon My Stash. 6 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:10,200 ["Pardon My Stash Theme Song"] 7 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:14,120 Welcome to Pardon My Stash, 8 00:00:14,120 --> 00:00:16,000 a podcast about knitting, the fiber arts, 9 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:17,520 and how awesome it is. 10 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:19,520 Before we dive in today, 11 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:22,320 let's talk about what we're working on, Draeah. 12 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:26,660 I am still plugging away on my Echemy shawl 13 00:00:26,660 --> 00:00:28,080 by Isabelle Krimmer. 14 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:31,280 And I'm using Silver Moon Fiber Arts 15 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:33,600 fingering weight in Faded Jeans. 16 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:34,620 It is looking good. 17 00:00:34,620 --> 00:00:35,720 Oh, it's so stretchy. 18 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:36,560 It's very stretchy. 19 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:37,380 I didn't realize it was so stretchy. 20 00:00:37,380 --> 00:00:38,220 Oh yeah. 21 00:00:38,220 --> 00:00:39,300 The lace is making it like- 22 00:00:39,300 --> 00:00:40,140 Wow. 23 00:00:40,140 --> 00:00:40,980 Yeah. 24 00:00:40,980 --> 00:00:41,820 Yeah, that is real stretchy. 25 00:00:41,820 --> 00:00:42,640 Super stringy, so. 26 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:44,280 That's gonna look real cool when it's blocked. 27 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:46,040 I bet that's gonna open up like crazy. 28 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:46,880 Oh yeah. 29 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:47,700 Yeah. 30 00:00:47,700 --> 00:00:48,540 Yeah, it's gonna be huge. 31 00:00:48,540 --> 00:00:50,760 Well, that's the perfect shawl. 32 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:51,840 This one, it's big. 33 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:52,680 Tina. 34 00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:54,120 I can't tell you what I'm working on. 35 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:54,960 Why not? 36 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:55,780 Because it's a secret. 37 00:00:55,780 --> 00:00:56,800 What do you mean it's a secret? 38 00:00:56,800 --> 00:00:57,640 It's a secret, but I can tell you 39 00:00:57,640 --> 00:00:58,480 what yarn I'm using. 40 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:00,300 I was gonna say, can you at least tell us the yarn? 41 00:01:00,300 --> 00:01:01,560 It is- Oh, I know what you're making. 42 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:06,560 Lena Grossa Cool Handad Limited Edition. 43 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:07,400 Limited Edition. 44 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:11,680 It is apparently number 4,738 of 5,000 skeins 45 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:12,520 that we're creating. 46 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:13,340 Wow. 47 00:01:13,340 --> 00:01:14,180 Fancy, fancy. 48 00:01:14,180 --> 00:01:15,000 That is fancy. 49 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:17,120 Basically, and there's no like, 50 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:20,040 of course, there's like no like color name, 51 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:22,080 but basically it looks like a vanilla cone 52 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:23,080 with rainbow sprinkles. 53 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:23,920 It does. 54 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:24,740 It's real pretty. 55 00:01:24,740 --> 00:01:25,580 I like that. 56 00:01:25,580 --> 00:01:26,420 Yeah, it's a lot of fun. 57 00:01:26,420 --> 00:01:31,040 It's a super secret project because I am a masochist. 58 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:32,600 No, you just like test knitting. 59 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:35,000 Or you test knitting. 60 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:35,840 It's a test. 61 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:37,480 Oh, I thought you weren't test knitting anymore. 62 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:38,800 I wasn't. 63 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:41,520 She lied. 64 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:43,520 Somebody needed my help. 65 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:44,880 It's very pretty. 66 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:45,720 What a sucker. 67 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:47,240 I am a sucker. 68 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:49,480 No, it started with me like giving advice 69 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:52,320 and then it ended with me helping. 70 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:54,240 I remember I was sitting there on the couch with you 71 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:55,080 when you accepted. 72 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:58,000 I only agreed because it's a flexible deadline 73 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:02,360 and it's super cash and there's no like crazy like pressure 74 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:03,640 to like do anything. 75 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:05,200 It's just, you know, knit. 76 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:06,440 It's gonna be a good test. 77 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:07,280 Yeah. 78 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:08,320 And I really enjoy the stitch. 79 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:09,680 So it'll be fun. 80 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:10,520 Jess. 81 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:15,000 I'm working on square for the Astrid blanket pattern 82 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:17,280 by Mallory Krall. 83 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:20,880 And yeah, so I'm just making a whole ton of squares 84 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:25,000 using a bunch of our assorted colors from Critical Hit Dies 85 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:28,240 because I kind of want to have like a swatch blanket. 86 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:29,320 Is that crochet? 87 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:30,440 This is crochet. 88 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:32,240 Yes, it is a crochet. 89 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:37,360 It is a huge hook in my experience 90 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:38,720 because I usually work with smaller ones. 91 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:41,680 It's actually probably a decently normal sized hook. 92 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:43,160 You just like working with tiny. 93 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:44,000 I'm just silly. 94 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:44,840 What size is that? 95 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:46,480 It's like G, right? 96 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:47,320 Oh, that's I. 97 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:48,200 Okay, it is pretty big. 98 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:49,040 I don't know. 99 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:50,120 It's a 5.5 millimeter. 100 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:52,600 So that's like a 10 in knitting. 101 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:53,840 Yeah, that's pretty big. 102 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:54,680 It's pretty big needle. 103 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:55,520 It's decent size. 104 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:56,360 Yeah. 105 00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:58,680 But yeah, so I'm cranking out a few of these 106 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:00,280 because it's fun and I like crochet 107 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:02,760 and we have all these colors I want to try and do. 108 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:05,920 And I'm just sort of nabbing colors like three at a time 109 00:03:05,920 --> 00:03:08,400 and going to town at them and just switching out the order 110 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:10,960 in which I use them to make at least three squares. 111 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:13,200 But if you use three colors and switch them around, 112 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:15,680 you can make six different squares 113 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:17,920 just using those three colors. 114 00:03:17,920 --> 00:03:20,160 I've never made a granny square, but. 115 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:21,080 It's fun. 116 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:22,920 I never did till yesterday. 117 00:03:22,920 --> 00:03:23,760 It's a lot of fun. 118 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:24,600 Yeah. 119 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:25,440 It is. 120 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:26,680 I didn't realize there were so many kinds 121 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:28,400 of granny squares now, like, cause you know, 122 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:29,320 when my grandmother did it, 123 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:31,840 it was basically just your kind of box one. 124 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:33,840 And it was like, it was still like two to three colors, 125 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:36,920 but it was basically just squares within a square. 126 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:39,400 And I really liked this, this round puff one. 127 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:40,360 So. 128 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:42,600 So I never crocheted along anything in my life 129 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:43,680 until yesterday. 130 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:45,560 And she showed me how to do that along 131 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:47,000 with the video tutorial. 132 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:51,640 And that one square, I learned six different techniques. 133 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:52,460 Nice. 134 00:03:52,460 --> 00:03:53,300 In that one square. 135 00:03:53,300 --> 00:03:56,360 And it was really like, when I say I learned them, 136 00:03:56,360 --> 00:03:58,640 you repeat them enough that you memorize them. 137 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:01,480 So that was like an amazing square to start with, 138 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:04,000 because like flat out now I'm like, okay, cool. 139 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:06,760 I know what single chain is, double chain, half, 140 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:07,600 what is it? 141 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:08,420 Half double chain. 142 00:04:08,420 --> 00:04:09,260 Half double crochet. 143 00:04:09,260 --> 00:04:10,240 I don't even know what any of these things are, 144 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:11,360 but I know how to do them. 145 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:12,360 So it was really neat. 146 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:14,320 Like how many techniques could be crammed 147 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:15,800 into one little square. 148 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:17,320 At some point I should show you flat 149 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:18,920 just so you know what they are. 150 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:22,760 Just like, okay, this is, this is a half double crochet. 151 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:24,240 So you're gonna, okay, you're gonna put this here, 152 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:25,740 you're gonna do this and do this. 153 00:04:25,740 --> 00:04:26,680 And I'm like, okay. 154 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:28,920 But I just kept following her. 155 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:31,960 But you repeated enough that you actually do learn them. 156 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:33,600 So it's a really good, 157 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:35,480 it's a really good square to start with. 158 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:37,980 One day I'll let you teach me how to crochet Jess. 159 00:04:37,980 --> 00:04:38,820 Not today. 160 00:04:38,820 --> 00:04:39,640 Not this day. 161 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:40,480 But maybe one day. 162 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:42,000 She's been saying for years that she's a bad teacher 163 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:42,840 and she's really not. 164 00:04:42,840 --> 00:04:43,680 I'm a bad teacher. 165 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:44,520 At all. 166 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:45,340 No, you're really not. 167 00:04:45,340 --> 00:04:46,200 I feel like you've taught me stuff. 168 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:48,200 You're really not a bad teacher. 169 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:49,120 What are you working on Meg? 170 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:52,240 I'm still working on Ocean Stones by Grella Mensen. 171 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:54,560 I have not worked on it in a while. 172 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:55,700 I kind of put it down. 173 00:04:55,700 --> 00:04:58,400 I got lured by other projects. 174 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:00,720 Color work, crochet. 175 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:01,720 It is, it's a really, 176 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:04,600 it's a great project right now for like just sitting 177 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:08,160 and going like randomly because it's very, 178 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:09,920 like I said, repetitive. 179 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:12,720 So I didn't need my pattern or anything like that. 180 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:13,880 I can just sit down and go. 181 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:16,260 Be sure to check out our website, PardonMyStash.com 182 00:05:16,260 --> 00:05:18,080 for more information as well as pictures 183 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:21,280 regarding our current projects, patterns and yarns. 184 00:05:21,280 --> 00:05:25,360 This week for our main topic, 185 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:28,240 we are going to be talking about misconceptions 186 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:32,520 about the fiber arts and how do we debunk them? 187 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:36,840 What are some of the things that people think, say or do 188 00:05:36,840 --> 00:05:41,600 when you mentioned that you partake in the fiber arts 189 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:43,960 and how do you deal with it? 190 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:45,120 Thoughts? 191 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:47,040 Knitting is for old people. 192 00:05:47,900 --> 00:05:50,280 We brought knitting to Kineticon. 193 00:05:50,280 --> 00:05:52,320 I think it was 2009 and Jackie said 194 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:54,360 we were old lady level grinding. 195 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:55,200 Yes. 196 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:59,200 And I thought that was the funniest thing ever. 197 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:01,760 Cause I had never heard of level grinding before 198 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:02,960 cause I didn't play video games. 199 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:05,480 And I think Jess, you had to explain it to me what it meant. 200 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:07,120 And it was just so funny. 201 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:08,960 She was, she saw us take out our stuff and she's like, 202 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:12,080 Oh, time for some old lady level grinding. 203 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:15,200 And yeah, it was like, okay. 204 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:16,480 Knitting's for old ladies. 205 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:18,280 You know, though it's really funny right now. 206 00:06:18,280 --> 00:06:20,920 I don't think I know any old ladies that knit. 207 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:23,800 Like personally, like I know of old ladies that knit, 208 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:27,680 but I don't know, like there is no older lady in my life 209 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:29,440 that I can think of. 210 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:30,280 Who currently knits. 211 00:06:30,280 --> 00:06:33,480 Anybody that I would consider really old that knits. 212 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:34,320 Yeah. 213 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:36,640 My grandmother does, but she was convinced. 214 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:38,680 She thought I was doing some new age knitting 215 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:40,080 cause I wasn't knitting Portuguese. 216 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:41,720 And now that I've switched to Portuguese knitting, 217 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:43,440 she's like, Oh, so you do, oh okay. 218 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:44,560 New age knitting. 219 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:46,280 Oh, so you do know how to knit the right way. 220 00:06:46,280 --> 00:06:49,360 Yeah, no, she just kept giving me like these looks of like, 221 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:51,120 why are you doing that to yourself? 222 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:53,720 Whenever I was throwing the yarn and she's just like, 223 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:54,840 that looks so painful. 224 00:06:54,840 --> 00:06:56,400 Like just stop. 225 00:06:56,400 --> 00:06:58,320 And then I switched and then she was like, oh, okay. 226 00:06:58,320 --> 00:06:59,680 Yeah, that's how you're supposed to do it. 227 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:01,240 But yeah, she will do it. 228 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:03,760 If I put like, it put a pair of needles in her hand. 229 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:06,560 Like I gave her a crochet hook the other day and some yarn 230 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:09,760 cause my daughter was doing it and she just whipped up. 231 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:14,720 It was like a lace border, no pattern, just done. 232 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:15,640 Like it was nothing. 233 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:18,560 Okay, so that's one old person I know. 234 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:21,840 Yeah, I really, I really don't know that many older people 235 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:23,480 that are like, that are knitting. 236 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:24,640 I really don't. 237 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:26,160 Yeah, everybody that I know that's, 238 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:29,000 everybody that I know personally that is knitting 239 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:30,960 or crocheting, they're all about our age. 240 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:35,960 I have one coworker who's older than me by about 15 years 241 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:40,520 that is knitting, but I wouldn't consider her old. 242 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:41,440 My kids would. 243 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:43,520 Wow. 244 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:44,360 That's different. 245 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:46,480 That's a different problem. 246 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:48,400 But yeah, I think that's one. 247 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:51,000 It's like, it's an old person activity. 248 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:53,040 And I really think that that's not even the case anymore. 249 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:56,440 I think that it kind of got a wrap for being 250 00:07:56,440 --> 00:07:59,360 like an old person activity, but it really isn't anymore. 251 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:02,000 Most of the people you see it at yarn stores knitting 252 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:03,840 are not that old. 253 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:06,600 Well, certain ones, certain ones have still have like 254 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:08,440 a couple of those, that older crowd. 255 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:09,280 Yeah. 256 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:12,920 I would say it's probably because the social medias 257 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:15,880 and all that have the young kids out there. 258 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:16,720 Well, retro, retros. 259 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:18,160 Those whippersnappers and. 260 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:20,440 Yeah, it's like this, you know, 261 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:22,720 it's like cool right now to knit. 262 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:25,880 Like it's the cool, uncool thing to do. 263 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:29,360 You know, like how I found that like, 264 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:31,680 there's this trend right now with like, 265 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:34,160 oh, I'm so uncool. 266 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:35,080 I do this. 267 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:36,600 That's how uncool I am. 268 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:38,120 And like that makes you cool. 269 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:38,960 Is that a trend? 270 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:39,800 I don't know if that makes sense. 271 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:40,880 That's a trend now? 272 00:08:40,880 --> 00:08:41,720 I don't know. 273 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:43,680 I see people like, like embrace it. 274 00:08:43,680 --> 00:08:46,440 Like they want to be considered like nerds of something 275 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:48,760 or they have hobbies or whatever. 276 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:50,920 And they just like want to hop on this train. 277 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:52,640 And I'm like, I mean, that's cool. 278 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:54,000 But like you should do it cause you like it, 279 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:56,240 not because it's some train to hop on, you know? 280 00:08:56,240 --> 00:08:59,320 And I think that a lot of the misconceptions 281 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:02,280 that we're seeing actually comes from either people 282 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:04,320 who don't do it, which we already know. 283 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:06,560 And then like people who jump on the train and then go, 284 00:09:06,560 --> 00:09:09,240 wow, this is not what I thought it was going to be. 285 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:10,080 Yeah. 286 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:11,560 You know, I don't think I've met that many people though 287 00:09:11,560 --> 00:09:16,080 but I think there are like maybe two that asked to be taught 288 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:20,360 to knit and actively did not do it afterwards. 289 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:21,320 They were both guys. 290 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:22,160 Yup. 291 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:23,360 Yeah. You know exactly who I'm talking about. 292 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:24,200 That too. 293 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:25,840 Yeah. And, and like one of them is, 294 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:28,240 I don't really know his feelings about the fiber arts 295 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:29,060 at all anymore. 296 00:09:29,060 --> 00:09:30,920 The other one has high respect for it, 297 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:33,480 but ripped out his knitting three times and was like, 298 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:34,640 yeah, this is not for me. 299 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:36,080 He does blacksmithing now. 300 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:37,440 Yeah. He does other stuff. 301 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:38,280 He does other stuff. 302 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:39,640 If you were wondering, he's still crafts. 303 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:40,480 Yeah. 304 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:44,520 He does crafts, but he's not, he doesn't knit, 305 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:46,440 but those are like literally the only two people 306 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:48,160 that ever were like, hey, I want to knit. 307 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:51,480 And then never picked it up again after that, that one time. 308 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:54,240 Most of the people that I know who asked to knit 309 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:56,480 eventually settled down and did knit, 310 00:09:56,480 --> 00:10:00,000 even if they only do like one or two projects a year. 311 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:01,920 There were a couple people that I taught to knit 312 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:05,000 and I'm pretty sure they're, they're still knitting 313 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:07,560 even though I'm not really in contact with them anymore. 314 00:10:07,560 --> 00:10:09,920 Yeah. Well, I think it's got a lot going for it. 315 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:11,800 I think that, you know, when people do it, 316 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:13,560 it's like, once you get the muscle memory, it's like, 317 00:10:13,560 --> 00:10:15,080 oh, this actually is pretty relaxing. 318 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:17,440 And it gives me something to do while I'm watching TV 319 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:19,200 and you know, all of that. 320 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:22,000 So it's definitely not just for old people. 321 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:23,320 Spinsta ladies. 322 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:26,280 We are all Spinsta ladies. 323 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:29,120 I feel like that goes along with like, you know, 324 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:31,600 people who say like people who play D and D 325 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:35,240 are like terminally single and never get dates. 326 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:38,160 And I have not, I don't think I've met a single like person 327 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:41,800 in D and D that didn't have a significant other. 328 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:45,320 And most of them met significant others through D and D. 329 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:46,640 Like, yeah. 330 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:48,520 No, I've definitely met. 331 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:51,080 But you know what I'm saying? 332 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:52,560 Like it's not all of them. 333 00:10:52,560 --> 00:10:54,880 And it's not, it's not the majority. 334 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:58,320 Look, when we were doing D and D, like our campaign, 335 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:00,960 everybody at our table was either married 336 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:03,840 or in a long-term committed relationship or. 337 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:04,880 Yeah. 338 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:07,480 I would say we're not the norm though. 339 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:09,920 Like if you go to like a PAX East or something 340 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:12,680 where they're doing a whole bunch of those games all at once. 341 00:11:12,680 --> 00:11:13,520 But we could be. 342 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:16,240 There's a lot of dungeon dwellers in there. 343 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:18,960 But I think that's the point is that you don't know. 344 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:22,560 I mean, there could be a lot of a lot of women who are Spinstras. 345 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:23,680 I hate that term. 346 00:11:23,680 --> 00:11:24,440 Who are knitters. 347 00:11:24,440 --> 00:11:30,000 But I also think that like most people who are who are doing fiber arts 348 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:33,120 are in whatever position they're in because they want to be, 349 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:37,080 whether they're choosing to be in a relationship or be single or, 350 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:38,880 you know, whatever, but it's, it's not like. 351 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:41,160 You're a spinster, therefore you should be doing crafts. 352 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:45,840 I have nothing else to do with my life because there's not a man in it. 353 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:47,880 So I have to be knitting. 354 00:11:47,880 --> 00:11:50,440 Like that's that's ridiculous. 355 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:52,480 I think most people are aware where they're at, 356 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:55,280 whether they're in a relationship or not by choice, 357 00:11:55,760 --> 00:11:58,640 because that's where they they choose to be at this moment in time. 358 00:11:58,680 --> 00:11:59,880 I got one. All right. 359 00:11:59,880 --> 00:12:03,760 People who assume that if you're somewhat decent at the craft, 360 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:08,160 then therefore you must be selling or donating said, oh, my God. 361 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:10,960 You couldn't just be doing it to do it like that's a huge 362 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:14,280 like the amount of people that come out to me and go like, hey, sell it. 363 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:15,520 And I'm like, no. Yeah. 364 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:17,680 And I know that we've talked about that before. 365 00:12:17,680 --> 00:12:23,440 Yeah, it's it's like it's very relevant and it's very prevalent in crafting. 366 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:26,160 If you're crafting, therefore you should be selling it. Yeah. 367 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:27,960 Well, I think it's also a double edged sword, too, 368 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:32,320 because nobody asks you to like make them something. 369 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:35,960 If you are making it look like you were you are having difficulty with it, 370 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:39,880 they ask you to do something when they think, wow, you are making that look so easy. 371 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:44,600 So for you to make me a sweater, that's going to be like nothing for you. Right. 372 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:46,320 Oh, I hate that one. 373 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:50,120 So there's I mean, it's it's it's like the double edged sword of wow. 374 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:54,640 I'm saying this because you look like you really have your you know what together 375 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:58,520 and you are doing a really good job and you're just like flying through that knitting. 376 00:12:58,520 --> 00:13:01,920 But on the flip side of it, it's like, yeah, 377 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:05,240 yes, and it took me a very long time to get to this point. 378 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:10,760 And that does not mean that I, you know, sweaters are falling off of me while I walk. 379 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:14,680 Like, well, going along with that, there's also this idea 380 00:13:14,680 --> 00:13:19,320 that what you hand custom make is going to cost the same as Wally World. 381 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:21,800 Wally World. 382 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:24,800 Yeah, you can't just go down to Walmart and pick up what 383 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:27,400 what you're creating with your own hands. 384 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:31,440 It's like, yes, you could get a knit sweater at Walmart for like twenty eight dollars. 385 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:35,160 Sure. But that's not talking to a single person 386 00:13:35,160 --> 00:13:39,160 who probably has other stuff going on on the side that's getting all the materials 387 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:45,560 and taking all the time to custom make and custom build this sized object for you. 388 00:13:45,560 --> 00:13:48,800 And they're also not those Wally World sweaters are not going to be seamless. 389 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:51,320 Top down sweaters. I'll tell you that right now they're going to be seemed. 390 00:13:51,560 --> 00:13:53,560 They're going to be machine knit for the most part. 391 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:55,880 And not that there's anything wrong with that. 392 00:13:55,880 --> 00:14:01,080 But when I say machine knit, not hand cranked like as those industrial. 393 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:04,040 Yeah. Knitting machines just cranking out sheets of fabric 394 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:07,720 and then that's being sewn by somebody that's probably not getting paid enough. 395 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:11,640 And then, you know, sent to your local Walmart and you're like, 396 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:15,960 twenty dollars, come on, why can't you give me that 397 00:14:16,600 --> 00:14:20,280 thirty two per cent dollar merino sweater? 398 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:25,960 Yeah. So many crafter horror stories about their DMs with like, 399 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:27,080 well, I'd like to do this. 400 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:29,960 And then they give a price estimate and they're like, what? 401 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:32,880 No, I could get this at Walmart. It's like, OK, so go. 402 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:36,240 So go enjoy. Please enjoy. 403 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:40,360 I feel like I have no energy to argue with people like that. 404 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:43,560 And I feel like I don't want to. 405 00:14:43,560 --> 00:14:48,640 You know, I did find a good way to get around that conversation. 406 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:51,920 You tell them that you're booked up for the next year. 407 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:54,680 Yeah, I'm just so good. Just just booked up. 408 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:57,560 If you want, you can give me your email and I'll put it on a waitlist. 409 00:14:57,560 --> 00:15:00,880 And then you pretend to type their email in and then you walk away. 410 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:05,720 Like because they won't remember you a year from now, 411 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:08,480 especially if it's a stranger just coming up to you and saying that, like, 412 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:12,200 it's so easy. Oh, wow. Wow. 413 00:15:12,480 --> 00:15:15,840 Oh, yeah, I'm going to make I'm going to make fifty six sweaters 414 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:19,520 in the next year. And I just can't fit another one. 415 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:21,920 It's just so much time. 416 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:24,680 Tina, that's like more than one sweater a week. 417 00:15:24,680 --> 00:15:27,880 If they were baby chunky sweaters, I bet you could do it. 418 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:30,200 It would be really, really tough. 419 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:31,800 I bet you could. 420 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:34,840 I bet if it's a baby sweater in chunky, you know, what? 421 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:36,640 I could make that happen. 422 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:41,800 Yeah, if you don't got to do arms, just knit a tube with holes. 423 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:43,400 There you go. 424 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:46,880 I actually have one kind of piggyback off of that. 425 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:50,760 And I find this is interesting because it's even among other crafters, 426 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:53,880 a complete misconception about the fact that 427 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:57,600 it's a complete misconception about the cost of materials. 428 00:15:57,600 --> 00:15:58,600 Yeah. 429 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:03,480 So my my mom and I were talking like about a month ago about and 430 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:05,840 and my mom said something about, you know, when she dies. 431 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:09,240 And I brought this up before my mother's crazy quilting stash, 432 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:13,720 like all the fabric. And she goes, well, you know, when when I die, 433 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:16,680 you know, my sister's going to get all my all my fabric. 434 00:16:16,680 --> 00:16:19,160 But if she goes first, then you need to get rid of it. 435 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:20,840 And I'm like, oh, Jesus. 436 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:22,200 And she goes, but don't worry. 437 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:26,360 You can sell it. And I go, OK, but mom, I need you then to tell me 438 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:29,960 what it's worth because I have no clue what you paid for it. 439 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:34,760 And she you know, she started acting like I was nuts because I had no idea. 440 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:36,600 And I said, OK, let me ask you a question. 441 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:40,600 How much do you think a a skein of fingering weight, which hilarious, 442 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:41,520 she wouldn't know what that meant. 443 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:43,960 Fingering weight hand dyed yarn. 444 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:45,560 And I'm like, no. 445 00:16:45,560 --> 00:16:48,520 And I told her what, you know, Jess and I charge at Critical Hit. 446 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:50,960 And she's like, and people pay that. 447 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:54,880 And I said, yes, we're actually like pretty middle of the road 448 00:16:54,880 --> 00:16:57,040 as far as as indie dyers go. 449 00:16:57,800 --> 00:17:00,640 And she wasn't trying to be disrespectful or anything like that. 450 00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:05,320 It just literally had never crossed her mind that that was the amount of money. 451 00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:07,600 So when somebody is like, will you knit me a sweater? 452 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:11,280 It's like, OK, so base price, if I buy the yarn, even if I use cheap yarn, 453 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:15,680 we're looking at like sixty dollars base price for just the yarn. Right. 454 00:17:16,080 --> 00:17:17,560 And then add on everything else. 455 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:22,360 And I think, you know, even people who just just don't do fiber arts in general, 456 00:17:22,520 --> 00:17:26,400 they have no idea what the actual materials cost. 457 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:30,080 I swear, if one more person says, well, it's just yarn. 458 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:33,600 It's like, guys, a lot goes into. 459 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:36,000 But you can say that about literally every hobby. 460 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:38,600 I know every hobby is just paint. 461 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:41,120 Well, that's what it's not just paint. 462 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:45,280 When you told me what optic markers were, I was like, 463 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:48,720 you have got to be freaking kidding me that markers cost that much. 464 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:49,760 But that's what I mean. 465 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:51,480 But Copic markers are like the best. 466 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:53,080 But it doesn't matter. I had no idea. 467 00:17:53,080 --> 00:17:55,200 Like, this is me who can't draw. 468 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:59,560 And and she's telling me like, what's one marker like anywhere 469 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:02,040 from like four to eight dollars higher? 470 00:18:02,040 --> 00:18:05,440 Like what I was like, you've got to be kidding me. 471 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:07,560 The cost of that. Right. 472 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:09,280 No, I would have said the same thing. 473 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:11,520 I have paid that much for a single company. 474 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:17,280 And if you are like if you really are trying to to use the best of the best, 475 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:20,040 which, you know, if you if you're enjoying your craft 476 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:22,640 and you're going to use it, like, by all means, you should buy 477 00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:25,960 whatever you want to. 478 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:28,240 But people aren't going to understand that. 479 00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:30,920 Wow, I really do want to buy this sixty dollar 480 00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:33,680 skein of cashmere or silk blend. 481 00:18:33,680 --> 00:18:35,880 And they're going to be like, that's literally string. 482 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:38,040 Yes, it is always going to be. 483 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:41,880 Yes, it is like your different types of paints or even going from like, OK, 484 00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:44,960 like miniature paints, like, you know, those tiny little bottles 485 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:49,520 that I also pay like six dollars for that are usually like acrylic. 486 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:52,960 They are not the same as the tube acrylics that you can get, 487 00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:56,480 which is also not the same as the kids acrylic paint that you can get. 488 00:18:56,680 --> 00:18:59,360 They're all like different different levels. 489 00:18:59,360 --> 00:19:02,760 Yeah. But if you don't know anything about paint, you're just like, dude, 490 00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:04,160 it's a tiny as jar of paint. 491 00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:09,800 I can get like one for a buck, an eight of that price. 492 00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:11,720 That's like six times more. 493 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:16,520 And it's like, yeah, but that's the wrong kind of my super special crafting 494 00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:18,160 stuff that I put it. 495 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:19,320 Different. 496 00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:22,120 It is. 497 00:19:22,120 --> 00:19:23,160 And people, people don't. 498 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:24,720 And the same thing with the tools. 499 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:27,800 I mean, my mom was asking me a couple of years ago, 500 00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:30,840 like she wanted to buy me some nice needles and she asked me what kind I liked. 501 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:34,520 And I told her my favorites are the the carbons. 502 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:39,520 Yeah. And she saw the price and she was like, oh, my God. 503 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:42,920 Like, they're not cheap. 504 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:47,040 And it is it's like, yeah, I could go to to Joanne's 505 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:50,040 and I could buy a whole bunch of clovers that are perfectly good. 506 00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:52,360 They're going to get the job done exactly the same way. 507 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:56,360 I'm not going to enjoy the the feel experience as much, 508 00:19:56,360 --> 00:19:59,080 but they'll do the job just as well. 509 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:02,080 But somebody that would you spend, 510 00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:08,200 you know, $20 on one pair of needles as opposed to like, you know, $4 511 00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:13,120 on the same the same size that will do the exact same job. 512 00:20:14,120 --> 00:20:15,440 So, yeah. 513 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:20,160 And I think that also plays into the whole like how much it should cost 514 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:23,920 because there's the just the overhead cost of everything, just the. 515 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:26,840 Yes, there's the yarn and yes, there's your time. 516 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:31,160 But then, like all your materials and notions and accessories 517 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:35,280 and winders and swifts and like all this stuff that you used with it 518 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:37,280 is like cost two and. 519 00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:38,280 Yeah, right. 520 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:41,200 And you'll have people that are like, why would you ever buy a ball winder? 521 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:42,880 You have two perfectly good hands. 522 00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:44,720 Just wind the yarn. 523 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:48,280 And that I say no, no, because I've done it. 524 00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:53,480 I will. I will absolutely like I wash laundry down by the river. 525 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:54,480 But I mean, 526 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:58,640 there's a lot of stuff that I'm like, I know what I can live without this. 527 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:01,600 I know I don't I don't wind balls by hand anymore. 528 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:02,840 Absolutely not. 529 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:04,640 I'm sorry. I got that. 530 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:09,960 That Chris Farley thing where you could go live in a van down by the river. 531 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:11,520 Anyway, yeah. 532 00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:14,200 Yeah. But that's but you know what? 533 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:17,360 There are people that would be like, why would you why would you 534 00:21:17,360 --> 00:21:18,560 spend your time doing that? 535 00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:20,400 Like that's true of any hobby. 536 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:21,400 Right. 537 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:25,280 It is. And that's a ridiculous cost and you shouldn't do it. 538 00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:29,800 Well, besides cost, I think there's also a misconception of the type of things 539 00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:32,560 that you can knit like sweaters and scarves. 540 00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:33,560 Yeah. 541 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:35,000 And socks. That's it. Yeah. 542 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:37,760 That's it. Or it could be honestly any of those things. 543 00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:40,920 Like I've heard people tell me like, oh, I thought you only like did like 544 00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:42,840 hats and socks or scarves. 545 00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:44,480 And I'm like, it's always scarves. 546 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:45,680 Scarves are always in there. 547 00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:48,280 But then like, but then like it'll always change. 548 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:52,160 Like it'll be like a sweater. And when they say a sweater, like they're thinking 549 00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:58,400 of like those Fair Isle, like Celtic, like gorgeous, detailed sweaters. 550 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:03,120 And and I'm just like, yeah, but like, you know, there's also like crop tops 551 00:22:03,120 --> 00:22:09,720 and halters and mini skirts and apparently pants and and pants. 552 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:11,280 Yeah, I don't I don't want to do pants. 553 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:12,880 But there are pants. There is pants. 554 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:15,320 The chainmail in Monty Pants. 555 00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:18,520 Yes, I sent that to you the other day. 556 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:19,680 Yeah, I saw it on TikTok. 557 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:22,880 Can you imagine walking around with with all that metal? 558 00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:23,880 Exactly. 559 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:24,880 And die. 560 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:28,040 Dude, your sound people were like clank clank clank. 561 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:29,040 That's not right. 562 00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:34,040 Yeah, I brought that up just because when I made my husband's high vis cowl, 563 00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:37,640 I had gotten a comment of like, you could use colors like that. 564 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:39,680 And I'm like, yeah. 565 00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:40,680 Only gray. 566 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:43,680 Yeah, like, I'm like, yeah, I'm like, yeah, I'm like, yeah, I'm like, yeah, I'm like, 567 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:46,400 only gray. Yeah. Like, what did you think? 568 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:50,280 Neutrals. No, like, I don't know if they had the idea of like it has to like whatever the 569 00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:52,360 colors on the sheep. That's all we can work with. 570 00:22:52,360 --> 00:22:53,920 Like, there's no such thing as dying it. 571 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:59,480 And I'm like, so then I'm sitting there in my brain like, do you think that there's blue 572 00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:02,480 sheep? Or like that? 573 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:07,320 No, it's like you gotta get the blue dye and just chuck it out of sheep. 574 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:09,920 And then they have blue wool all the time. 575 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:12,280 Now that's just Minecraft at that point. 576 00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:17,760 If anyone plays Minecraft, you make the sheep mate and then they have a baby with a different 577 00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:18,760 color. 578 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:21,720 That's how you get different colored yarn in Minecraft. 579 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:23,200 You need to know color theory. 580 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:25,200 It's super important. 581 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:26,200 Anyways. 582 00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:28,200 And then you can make carpets. 583 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:30,480 Yeah, and different colored beds. 584 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:31,480 Stop. 585 00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:32,480 And it's cool. 586 00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:36,480 Like dying hasn't been around for thousands of years or anything like that. 587 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:39,560 But we're just gonna knit with the same sheep. 588 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:42,440 I think people are so removed from it. 589 00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:46,080 At this point, if you need something, you buy it. 590 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:47,080 It's not as... 591 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:48,080 I think the whole... 592 00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:54,520 Another just misconception is just the idea of patiently making something. 593 00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:56,560 Like crafting something with your own hands. 594 00:23:56,560 --> 00:24:00,400 And I think anyone that's a crafter can relate to that. 595 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:03,440 I've heard, well, why don't you just go buy a sweater on Amazon? 596 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:09,120 Well, why don't you just go buy a cupboard for someone who's a woodworker? 597 00:24:09,120 --> 00:24:12,520 But maybe they don't want to. 598 00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:15,320 Maybe I want to make this sweater more poorly. 599 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:21,720 And I want to spend like 150 bucks to make it for the glory of having made it. 600 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:22,720 I'm not gonna lie. 601 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:25,360 I never think about my own personal cost. 602 00:24:25,360 --> 00:24:31,280 If I'm making something for myself, it's like, well, I have this yarn. 603 00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:33,520 It just happens to be here. 604 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:38,920 But I will never sit there and tally how expensive something is. 605 00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:45,320 Unless somebody is asking me if they can buy it off of my person while I'm standing in 606 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:47,400 a post office. 607 00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:52,820 That meme of, why would I spend $15 on pad tie when I could spend $92 on ingredients 608 00:24:52,820 --> 00:24:54,560 to make a shittier pad tie? 609 00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:58,200 It just makes me think about it. 610 00:24:58,200 --> 00:24:59,200 But more of it. 611 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:00,200 And you know what? 612 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:02,280 Then I also get the joy of having made it. 613 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:08,480 Like, yes, if I want a sweater that fits perfectly, I can go to the store and I can buy a sweater. 614 00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:10,520 And whatever. 615 00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:14,600 Or I can make it and be super proud of it, even though it's a little wonky and I totally 616 00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:16,320 like fudged the armpit holes. 617 00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:17,880 Don't say you haven't done it. 618 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:18,880 You have all done it. 619 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:20,360 You have all done it. 620 00:25:20,360 --> 00:25:21,360 And you know what? 621 00:25:21,360 --> 00:25:24,320 I'm super proud of that sweater, even though the hem is a little bit wonky. 622 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:26,000 Like, you know what? 623 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:27,000 That's my choice. 624 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:32,360 I see your point, but I will disagree that I'm making it worse because I at this point, 625 00:25:32,360 --> 00:25:36,680 the store bought stuff does not fit me as well as my handmade stuff. 626 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:37,680 And there is that too. 627 00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:39,480 Like, because you're making it custom. 628 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:40,480 Yeah. 629 00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:43,880 Your size like I can make adjustments for darts for my boobs. 630 00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:47,720 I can make short rows for the back of my neck so it doesn't ride. 631 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:52,200 I can like change the collar height so I'm comfortable with it because like a lot of 632 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:53,980 times I'll be like, this is great. 633 00:25:53,980 --> 00:25:55,440 And this is great in a store bought sweater. 634 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:57,220 But it's like cleavage, gore. 635 00:25:57,220 --> 00:25:59,440 And I'm not comfortable with that because I'm heavy chested. 636 00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:02,600 Or it's like, you know, it can change the bags. 637 00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:03,600 Yeah. 638 00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:04,600 Be more comfortable or flattering. 639 00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:08,960 I can make them three quarter instead of full because the full makes me uncomfortable. 640 00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:13,240 Or I can make it a short sleeve if I just feel like it or like it. 641 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:15,200 Or you can Frankenstein pattern. 642 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:16,200 Yeah. 643 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:21,640 Nobody is sitting here saying that buying off like making a sweater is easier than buying 644 00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:22,640 a sweater. 645 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:25,080 Like nobody is saying that, but we're not talking about ease. 646 00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:26,880 We're talking about crafting. 647 00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:29,000 I think it's like a better outcome. 648 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:32,320 Like I just feel like you like, yeah, I'm going to invest this time. 649 00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:39,000 And the reason why it's worth it is because in the end I would rather have two or three 650 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:45,760 sweaters that fit me amazingly in my whole life than 20 of them that I all hate because 651 00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:49,860 they're either too short or too tight or too this or too that like, cause they're not made 652 00:26:49,860 --> 00:26:51,440 to my body. 653 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:54,040 So it's, it's, yeah, it is time. 654 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:55,440 It does cost extra money. 655 00:26:55,440 --> 00:27:01,840 But if I, if I went to somebody and said, Hey, I want you to make this beautiful, intricate 656 00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:02,840 sweater. 657 00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:03,840 It's custom to my measurements. 658 00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:04,840 Heck yeah. 659 00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:06,800 You should be paying hundreds of dollars. 660 00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:09,080 That is insane to expect. 661 00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:14,540 Like a machine knit sweater is in an average size that might fit the majority of the populace. 662 00:27:14,540 --> 00:27:19,260 So if that doesn't fit you well and you want something custom, even if it was fabric, even 663 00:27:19,260 --> 00:27:23,560 if you're a sewer, even if like it doesn't matter, you want something custom to you, that's 664 00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:24,560 money. 665 00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:25,560 That's like, it's expensive. 666 00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:29,360 It's, it's, it's, and you also can't find that in many places. 667 00:27:29,360 --> 00:27:33,560 You're very rarely going to find someone that will make you clothing custom fit to your 668 00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:36,080 exact measurements from the ground up. 669 00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:37,080 Yeah. 670 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:42,000 And, and usually the, the reach for that is very low because people don't have access 671 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:45,640 to those people because they actually charge what they're worth. 672 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:46,640 Yeah. 673 00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:51,280 But like other than that, so the option is if you can't, you don't have millions of dollars 674 00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:56,360 at your disposal to just throw around willy nilly, like, you know, so many of us do. 675 00:27:56,360 --> 00:28:03,760 Anyways, you can, you can just get the materials, eat the cost of the materials, which even 676 00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:09,760 if you not necessarily can afford $32 skeins of yarn, maybe you can afford $5 skeins of 677 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:11,240 yarn and that's fine. 678 00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:16,800 And, and maybe it, cause like, I know with us, we're all on the larger spectrum of sizes 679 00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:21,280 and that we are not making extra smalls or smalls. 680 00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:26,760 So we're not looking at four or five skeins of yarn, we're looking at nine, 10, 11 skeins 681 00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:28,840 of yarn to make a sweater for ourselves. 682 00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:35,760 And so, yeah, maybe it'll be easier to eat $50 of yarn rather than like $150. 683 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:36,760 Yeah. 684 00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:39,480 That's the one bonus of fingering weight. 685 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:40,480 Yeah. 686 00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:41,480 Yeah. 687 00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:43,400 I did my whole sweater and three and a half skeins. 688 00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:44,400 That's kind of nice. 689 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:45,400 I know you never get that. 690 00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:47,720 Like if I did that worse, it would be like 12. 691 00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:48,720 Right. 692 00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:49,720 Right. 693 00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:52,000 So it's, it's all a balance of what you're willing to give up. 694 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:53,000 Right. 695 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:54,000 So are you, do you pay a little bit more? 696 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:55,000 It took me a lot longer. 697 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:56,000 Yeah. 698 00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:57,840 And then it goes faster, but you don't. 699 00:28:57,840 --> 00:28:58,880 It took me longer. 700 00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:00,920 It's all give and take. 701 00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:02,760 But that's the beauty of crafting. 702 00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:07,880 You can make all those customers, if you need a certain price point, a certain fit, a certain 703 00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:15,120 this, a certain that, every single measure is customizable for you, which like brings 704 00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:21,320 us back full circle to misconceptions of, of all of it is just this idea that it's just 705 00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:27,800 this one vertical of like, this is what knitting is when it's such a huge spectrum of things. 706 00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:33,240 There's anything I've learned is just like, if you feel like you want to be a designer 707 00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:37,000 of like cat beds, like you can do that because guess what? 708 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:38,360 There's a niche for that. 709 00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:43,360 And probably, and even if there's eight other people doing that, no one's doing your type 710 00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:49,580 of cat bed, so you are like, even though it's oddly specific, you definitely like, you can, 711 00:29:49,580 --> 00:29:52,840 you can like, it's just, that's the beauty with crafting. 712 00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:55,120 It's because it's your artistic expression. 713 00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:56,640 Everyone has their own style. 714 00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:57,640 Yeah. 715 00:29:57,640 --> 00:29:58,640 Yeah. 716 00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:00,800 Maybe somebody will like it, or maybe you just want to make it for yourself and that's 717 00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:01,800 fine. 718 00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:04,460 And your cat cats would never know they wouldn't. 719 00:30:04,460 --> 00:30:05,460 They would look at them. 720 00:30:05,460 --> 00:30:07,600 They would not use them. 721 00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:09,680 You would, you could make them the most gorgeous cat bed. 722 00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:11,220 Back me up on this tray. 723 00:30:11,220 --> 00:30:14,480 You could make them the most gorgeous bed or buy them the most gorgeous bed and they 724 00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:19,640 will look at it and be like, no, but I will sit on this single sheet of paper that I see 725 00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:22,400 you dropped on the floor box that you left on the table. 726 00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:23,400 Yes. 727 00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:25,240 But I'm not sitting in that custom made cat bed. 728 00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:26,240 Like, no, hell no. 729 00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:27,240 That's not happening. 730 00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:28,240 That's how I feel. 731 00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:33,380 Like I started making my dog Barlow a doggy sweater, but every time I put anything remotely 732 00:30:33,380 --> 00:30:39,640 on him that goes anywhere, but off of his collar, he's, he's, he's not having, he's 733 00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:40,640 rolling around. 734 00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:41,640 He's like, get this off of me. 735 00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:44,240 So I was like, I've been like, you're like, it's not even worth it. 736 00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:45,240 Yeah. 737 00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:48,600 Well, that's like when I put bow ties on the cats. 738 00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:50,400 They did not like that. 739 00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:54,200 And this was the first year that I tried to do that to them. 740 00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:58,240 And one is 10 and I think the other one is going to be seven this year. 741 00:30:58,240 --> 00:30:59,240 And they're like, mm. 742 00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:03,240 Like mom, I don't know where you got this idea, but we ain't those type of cats. 743 00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:05,240 No, you got to start that young. 744 00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:06,240 Yeah. 745 00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:10,160 I have another one that I think Jess, you can probably debunk in a way that I think 746 00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:13,360 the rest of us probably can't, but I think there's the prevailing notion that crochet 747 00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:14,960 is easier than knitting. 748 00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:15,960 Yes and no. 749 00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:19,000 On the one hand, you have single strands. 750 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:22,080 They don't have to worry about like stitches getting dropped. 751 00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:24,120 It's a little bit easier to pick them back up. 752 00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:26,080 Like I said, they go, it tends to go faster. 753 00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:30,640 Once you get the muscle memory down, I find that crochet goes a lot faster than knitting 754 00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:33,840 patterns for crochet or God awful to read. 755 00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:37,040 If you don't know what you're looking at, like if you open, I'm not talking about the 756 00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:38,040 written ones. 757 00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:42,600 They're about the same as a knitted one, you know, so long as you know, the, the, the acronym 758 00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:44,360 and you're fine. 759 00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:47,560 The pictures are tough. 760 00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:48,560 Sometimes they don't put a key in. 761 00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:54,680 And if you don't know where your designer is from, you have no idea because every country 762 00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:57,200 has their own symbolism for stuff. 763 00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:01,680 Let me tell you a Peacock stitch apparently has 12 different ones. 764 00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:02,680 Wow. 765 00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:06,280 And it took me forever to figure out which one on a pattern I was doing at one point. 766 00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:07,840 Like, I was like, I don't know what this is. 767 00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:10,640 I'm like, oh, it's a Peacock, which is a super simple stitch. 768 00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:11,760 And I had no idea what it was. 769 00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:16,400 But yeah, so, so there's that there's, there's learning how to read a crochet chart. 770 00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:22,760 Crochet also you can't like, it's manmade only, you can't replicate crochet with machinery. 771 00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:28,840 So if you see a crochet project that is handmade by someone somewhere machines can't do it. 772 00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:33,760 They can do stuff that's kind of similar, but like braiding and whatnot, but it is not 773 00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:34,760 the same. 774 00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:38,120 It's really interesting that with all the technology we have in the world, I have never 775 00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:41,160 managed to come up with a machine crochet. 776 00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:48,320 I think it's just the way you do do crochet because there is a lot of nuance to it. 777 00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:49,320 Wrist movement. 778 00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:50,320 Yeah. 779 00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:51,320 Well, there's wrist movement. 780 00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:53,680 And there's also there's going back and forth on like, it's not just like a linear all the 781 00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:55,840 way around or a back and forth. 782 00:32:55,840 --> 00:33:01,640 Like you will go like up, down sideways, up, down sideways, around them, back around halfway, 783 00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:03,160 then back around the whole way. 784 00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:05,320 Like, like there's a lot of back and forth. 785 00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:06,740 So for some pattern. 786 00:33:06,740 --> 00:33:12,560 So I think crochet and knitting are very similar in how you pick them up and how you learn 787 00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:13,560 them. 788 00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:14,560 But they're also very different. 789 00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:17,680 Like if just because you know knitting, you're not going to be able to look at a crochet 790 00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:21,240 chart and be like, yes, I have this right off the bat because they're very different 791 00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:22,240 techniques. 792 00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:26,000 However, I think if you learn knitting, you can learn crochet. 793 00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:27,920 And if you learn crochet, you can learn knitting. 794 00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:35,800 Like I do think once you know you have a love for doing a fiber craft like that, you can 795 00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:37,320 pick it up if that's what you like. 796 00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:39,840 And a lot of people have preferences at the end of the day. 797 00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:40,840 They're like, yeah, you know what? 798 00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:46,120 I found out that I like, you know, I've knitted forever, but I really like crochet better. 799 00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:47,920 And then you have the vice versa. 800 00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:52,680 I was going to say to like really obvious misconception is when people are like knitting 801 00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:55,400 is crochet and like crochet is knitting. 802 00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:57,400 And you're like, it's all the same thing. 803 00:33:57,400 --> 00:33:59,200 Oh, you know, same thing. 804 00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:00,200 Oh my God. 805 00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:06,040 I feel I feel also that cross stitchers and embroiderers also have this feud. 806 00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:13,920 I only only because I knew I have a friend that I knew in North Carolina that did cross 807 00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:14,920 stitch. 808 00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:16,040 Yeah, she did cross stitch. 809 00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:21,000 But yeah, I feel that happens a lot where like you'll just be knitting along and someone's 810 00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:23,160 like, wow, my grandmother used to crochet too. 811 00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:24,160 And I'm like, that's cool. 812 00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:25,160 That's not what I'm doing. 813 00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:30,800 I don't know if you guys remember like a million years ago, like did the quilted Northern commercials 814 00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:34,520 where they had the old ladies quilting and they were quilting the toilet paper. 815 00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:38,280 And my mother would like lose her mind every time because they were quilting with knitting 816 00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:40,600 needles and she's like, that's not a thing. 817 00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:41,600 Yeah, that was so weird. 818 00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:42,600 Knitting needles. 819 00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:45,640 And somebody finally must have said something because then he switched and they were using 820 00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:46,640 their hands. 821 00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:51,040 So I get she's like, OK, you also most people aren't going to like hand stitch a quilt, 822 00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:52,040 but you know what? 823 00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:53,040 Fine. 824 00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:54,040 Like we're not going to miss. 825 00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:55,040 We're not going to miss hairs anymore. 826 00:34:55,040 --> 00:35:00,240 It was that it's the Liberty Mutual and they had the two guys and I was all excited about 827 00:35:00,240 --> 00:35:01,240 this. 828 00:35:01,240 --> 00:35:05,000 It was two guys and they were all excited about knitting. 829 00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:07,840 And they were pulling up crocheted finished objects. 830 00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:09,840 And I'm like, that's really neither. 831 00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:11,840 It was like a crocheted bear. 832 00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:13,560 And you're like, you know, that's not knit. 833 00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:17,400 So to recap, just do your crafts the way that you want to do your crafts. 834 00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:20,800 And when people give you a shout it just put on your hater blockers. 835 00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:21,800 Yeah. 836 00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:22,800 I just said that. 837 00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:23,800 That was a sentence I just said. 838 00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:26,520 Yeah, put on your hater blockers. 839 00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:28,120 I'm not going to cut that out. 840 00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:29,120 Don't. 841 00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:30,120 Proud of it. 842 00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:36,160 That's it for this 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