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I'm Drea. I'm Meg. I'm Tina. And I'm Jess. And

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this is Pardon My Stash. Welcome to Pardon My

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Stash, a podcast about crafting fiber arts and

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how awesome it is. Yeah! Woo! Before we dive

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in today, let's talk about what we're working

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on, Drea. I am working on a happy turtle. A happy

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little turtle. I think I see a happy little bunny

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over there too. Yes, I finished a bunny. That's

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real cute. Since we last got together. This is

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the, it's a jelly cat style bunny crochet by

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Poffik Stitchoff. You know what's so funny? I

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was looking at that bunny and I'm like something

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familiar about that. But our daughter's favorite

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toy is a jelly cat bunny. and i just realized

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yeah it looks just like like bunny like bunny

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yeah he looks like bunny very cute yes i made

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this for my friend who just had a baby yeah that's

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super cute i have not given it to her yet but

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i will but tell us about the turtle because the

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turtle is the project i am very excited about

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the turtle like look at his little oh he's got

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really good eyes he does have good eyes look

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at that very cute legit this is the happy turtle

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pattern Oh, I thought you just meant he was happy.

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Like I didn't realize it was a happy turtle pattern.

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It's called the happy turtle. That's so cute.

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It's the happy turtle pattern by Happy Turtle

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Crochet. I love it. I do too. And bunny, turtle,

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all things crochet for me. Big twist, baby bear.

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Now, is this the same turtle that you've been

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making lots of or is this a new turtle? This

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is a new turtle. This is a new turtle. Okay.

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As you can see, look at his cute little flippers.

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these are really cute little flippers they're

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really chunky little flippers i love they are

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like little half moons i love them instead they're

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so squishy yeah instead of like little round

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nubbins so i am advancing my crochet skills love

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it noise fantastic i am learning new a plus yes

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thank you did you finish the banana source Oh,

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yes. I finished the banana source. I was going

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to say there's no banana source here. All right.

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He is done. Cool. He is currently hanging out

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in my car because I'm waiting to send it somewhere

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because I am too lazy to get down to the post

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office before it closes. Fair. But it will go

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somewhere. Off to its new home. Off to a new

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home. Very good. I'm not telling them that they're

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getting it. It's going to be a surprise. Yep.

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He's going to open it and he's going to be like,

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oh. Andrea got me. Andrea made me this. Love

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it. Please don't ever call me that, though. I'm

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sorry. That was a slip on my part. You played

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yourself. Do not full name me. Tina? I, as you

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may recall, I finished my Franken -Coco -Beanie

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thing last episode. On the air. On the air, you

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did. I did. And while I was in... Portugal I

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was working actually on the uh that spider shawl

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that we were supposed to oh yeah oh yeah oh congratulations

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um so I'm actually a lot farther on that but

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I can't do that while talking no so that's fair

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that's a complicated I brought back the beanie

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that I forgot about when I saw the cocoa franken

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beanie and that one is the northward beanie oh

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that's a tin can knits isn't it it is by tin

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can knits and this one is made with the yarn

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is by sugar makeable fibers in the colorway sugar

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maple and it's a single ply bulky it's beautiful

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it's a very pretty orange yeah it looks like

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fall you know i'm ready i'm ready guys ready

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i am also ready for fall i am ready for it to

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at least not be this humid i am ready for that

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But I'm not ready for fall. I don't like walking

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outside into soup. No, ma 'am. I am enjoying

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the break from like kid activities in general.

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Because like right now their schedule is like

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pretty much nothing, which is awesome. So I'm

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not chauffeuring as much. Yeah, fair. But yeah,

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man, a crisp fall morning would be really nice

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right now. I'm going to be the lone voice of

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dissent. I am not ready yet. I would love some

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cool air, but I'm not enough to want to rush

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it. Maybe we'll have like a cold spell. A cold

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snap instead of all these heat waves. Jess, what

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we got? I'm still working on the catnip pullover

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because I'm awful this year. But hey, I got like

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three more rows done. Yep, you did. And you're

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almost done with the cats. I'm almost done with

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the cats. I don't know if that's going to make

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it better or worse. I'm still. uh plugging along

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on that and when i'm working on it it's going

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pretty fast but it's also summer and my hands

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are sweaty and it's hard isn't it though i did

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start a crochet fish um you did i did where was

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i where is it next to my chair somewhere i dropped

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it and i haven't i haven't dug it out i found

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an old um I think it was worsted weight and I

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think it might have been in old school Copper

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Dragon. I don't know. I found all this yarn next

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to my chair and I had my crochet hook. I can't

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remember why I had the crochet hook. So I started

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it. Then I realized that the eyes that I have

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are smaller than I want them to be. No. no it's

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gonna happen no i do mine are too small i want

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them bigger oh my god which is why i also now

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have a box of eyes see when you lost them three

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or four times then i will ask frank if he understands

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my pain But yeah, we will. Time will tell if

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that will happen. If you keep losing the box

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of eyes. Yeah. How many times have you lost the

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box of eyes? Oh, I don't know. They're lost right

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now because I can't remember where I put them.

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So how do you know you don't have the right size?

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You don't know. Yes, I do. Because I found them

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when I started the fish and then I put them back

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where I found them. But now I can't remember

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where I found them. I can't do this anymore.

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They're in the basement somewhere. I can't do

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this anymore. There were noses too. I forgot.

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I do remember that. I got cat noses. Oh, can

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I have a nose? Yeah. I have a hot tip. When I

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find them, I will get you a nose. Maybe we put

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the eyes in the same place. Every single time.

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Holy crap. I should do that. I know that's hard

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with ADHD because I can't do that either sometimes.

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Can you just give me the eyes and I will put

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them away? Give it a house. Give it a little

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house where it lives. Oh, I can get a special

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box for them. Oh, great. Because you don't have

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enough special boxes. Maybe I already have a

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box. She will remember the box. I might have

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an empty box. You can put them in your jewelry

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box, dude. That you don't use for jewelry. But

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it's a cool jewelry box. For eyes. For eyes.

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See, look at that. I solved the problem. Oh,

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I can, because they're the safety eyes. So they

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can go in the ring section in the little like

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ring hole. perfect we have solved the problem

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sweet i'm gonna buy some eyes no we have not

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solved the problem I still need bigger eyes.

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I really love that we've been doing this for

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four years and this is just an ongoing theme

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of the show is Jess can't find the eyes. The

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marital problems between you two involving eyes.

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There's no marital problems. It's just more of

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the like, it's the ongoing spat. I have black

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bear noses and pink cat noses, but I'll have

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to check and I will let you see them. You know

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what the marital problem was? The day she dropped

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all the beads on the kitchen floor. That was

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the marital problem. I'm still finding some.

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She's still finding them. I thought I vacuumed

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them all up. This floor has been vacuumed. It's

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been swept. That was the marital problem. First

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thing that you're arguing about is eyes and beads

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on the floor. It's true. You're doing pretty

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good. It's true. We're doing all right. It's

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doing pretty good. We're doing okay. I'm just

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saying. The beads are forever. It's like glitter.

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It's literally like glitter. Like you think you

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got them all. You didn't get them all. You did

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not. You didn't. You can think that all you want.

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Meg, what you doing? So I am about halfway through

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the yoke on my Sayuri sweater. I have stopped.

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um because the pattern is really confusing and

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i have i've read it about three times and i cannot

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figure out the next step and jess has promised

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to take a look at it at me and she has promised

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me no less than four days this week that she

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would look at that pattern and then we keep doing

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other things um yeah exactly so um it is sitting

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in a bag until we take a look at it together

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and we figure because honestly guys i'll be honest

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with you my brain does not work that way sometimes

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like especially not on summer vacation not on

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summer vacation but this is my knitting time

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though this is when i do the fun stuff um so

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right now last couple days i've been working

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uh back to winter light by meg gadsby um i started

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this back in march um i'm determined to finish

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this it's not a hard project it's actually a

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really good one for watching tv and kind of zoning

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out because it's four repeats um and they're

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very they're pretty simple And I am knitting

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it out of fiber optic yarns gradient in Texas

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blue bonnets. And I am like in the blue now,

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which is super exciting. I'm not just hanging

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out in the. The blue is my favorite part of the

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skein. And it's going to get to this really gorgeous,

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like, deep blue. That was a good project for

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that yarn. I'm getting there. No, it is. I mean,

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this is not a yarn that needs a fancy project.

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It really just needs a simple project to really

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show it off. So that's where I'm at right now.

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So I'm determined to finish at least one project

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this year, please. This has not been my year

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for knitting. It really has not been. um me neither

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you know what it's it's you gotta you gotta just

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go with it when it when it comes gotta make those

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turtles sometimes you know I I've tried crocheting

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this year and I I it's not really my thing either

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so the turtles are so cute and I love admiring

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them but I don't I don't know as much as I I

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look at that and I'm like oh god I want to do

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that I want to crochet I just every time I do

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it I'm like I'm not enjoying myself with this

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so I love watching other people crochet though

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it's beautiful and I love the way it looks knit

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up I love or not knit up obviously crocheted

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up but I love seeing the differences like when

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when um oh you compare yarns yeah well compare

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like a knit project and a crochet project with

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the same yarn especially if it's a um like a

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speckle or a variegated um it's amazing how differently

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those those yarns look yeah because knit versus

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crochet one yarn could be beautiful for knitting

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and but yeah and it just doesn't it doesn't work

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or it pools funny and then you do a crochet pattern

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and it comes out totally different or it looks

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good both ways but different yeah good and good

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in different ways. So be sure to check out our

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website, pardonmystache .com for more pictures,

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patterns, and yarns. So before we start today,

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we have a small announcement. As some of you

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Wolf for sponsoring us the past, I believe it's

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So for the month of June, we would like to give

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a shout out to Sharon. elizabeth and kara thank

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mean a lot to us thank you they really do no

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they do so for tonight's episode um we are going

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to talk about propaganda that we will not be

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buying This is an Instagram trend that maybe

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you guys have seen where somebody picks a topic

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and they say, this is the propaganda about this

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topic that we are not buying. That might sound

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political. It is not. Because today we are going

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to be talking about crafting propaganda that

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we are not buying. None of it. Not today. As

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we always say on episodes like this, these are

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our unvarnished opinions. They do not have to

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be your opinions. You do not need to agree with

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us. We probably won't even all agree with each

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other. That is certain. There may be some things,

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but that is and it should in no way impact your

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own personal beliefs. We do not claim to be experts

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in any craft and, you know, take our opinions

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with a grain of salt. This is how we feel as

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your own research. As crafters, this is how we

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feel. So what is. I open the floor. What is some

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propaganda about crafting that we are not buying?

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That you have to block. That's a good one. like

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that's a really good one would you care to elaborate

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I would love to elaborate all right because a

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lot of times when you're hearing from you okay

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well blocking super important and it's a really

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important step and it's the final step and if

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you don't do it like your thing sucks and blah

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blah blah well I have to say sometimes blocking

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is not important sometimes blocking doesn't actually

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make any sense for the project that you're working

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on, it does make sense for a lot of projects.

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Like if you're working on a shawl or you're working

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on whatever. Or like a sweater. Yeah. And it

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also depends on the type of fiber you're working

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with. Like if I'm making a shawl out of acrylic,

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I am not blocking it. Well, you know, that's

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fair. I could block it. Wet the plastic. Yeah,

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like. I iron blocked an acrylic scarf once. Well,

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good for you. No. No. It melts it. I was going

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to say, that sounds like a bad plan. That was

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my early days. I was going to ask, did you have

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to buy a new iron? No, because I did it on really

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low heat. It actually didn't melt it that much.

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What it did was it actually just flattened it.

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It just flattened it. And I was like, good enough.

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And I moved on with my life. Congratulations.

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I know. I have never heard that story. That's

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a good one. I saved it for now. Yeah, I had made

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a, I think it was the French can can shawl. I

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made that for my cousin. I love that shawl. It's

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not blocked? It's made in acrylic. I did not

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block that. I would never have known. Meanwhile,

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I also made a French can can. which was not acrylic

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and that definitely needed to be blocked. It

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did. Yeah. But the acrylic, it's kind of like

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it was already in place. Like it didn't really

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need to be shaped because it held its shape.

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But that's the thing. Looking at your French

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can can and not knowing that it's acrylic, it

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looks so nice and even I wouldn't have known

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that you'd block it. I'm just that good. No,

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it's just that like acrylic is one of those things

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that just kind of like where you set it is where

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it's going to be. It's not going to move. It's

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not going to bloom. It's not going anywhere.

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so yeah that's i won't be buying into that propaganda

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not all the time solid start like i've made blankets

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and i put them through the wash in the dryer

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which is scary but but it covered in cat hair

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right yeah i wouldn't consider that blocking

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i'm just no are you pinning it no then we're

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good No. Yeah. I feel like it depends if you

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like the look. I mean, if you're worried about

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the look and you think it looks weird, try blocking

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it. But if you're not worried about the look

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and you think it looks... Dude, I don't think

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I've blocked a hat. That's not true. I blocked

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one hat. So the other thing, too, with if you

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have a super wash garment and you wash it, you

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may be having to block it every single time.

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Like, I noticed that with the wedding shawl that

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you made me. because that is made out of superwash

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and when you first blocked it it held this big

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beautiful block but it has gradually shrunk yeah

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over time and I haven't washed it it's squeezed

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back but over time it kind of sprung back to

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where it was because I was looking at it smaller

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now when we moved it and then I was looking at

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pictures I'm like no this definitely like shrank

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like no it did it did it kind of like squeezed

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back into itself so that's a little weird usually

00:16:42.850 --> 00:16:45.370
things stretch out yeah you think well I don't

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wear it that often I think I've only worn it

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twice I wore it to our wedding and I wore it

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to Rhinebeck and I'm pretty sure that's it so

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it's been folded up and in a and in a box um

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but yeah when I've taken it out I'm like man

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I remember this being a whole lot bigger like

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it used to come down past my butt it doesn't

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do that anymore it's it's it shrank yeah it's

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weird um but again as with all knitting your

00:17:06.890 --> 00:17:11.140
mileage may vary yeah Yeah, with that frankincoco

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beanie, I almost purposely made it too small

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because I was going to use blocking to make it

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the right size. And it's Rios. And now it's perfect.

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And Rios is perfect fit. But yeah, I've definitely

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made hats where I'm like, no. The original cocoa

00:17:25.859 --> 00:17:30.380
bean I made in the less traveled, I didn't block

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that. And it's still too big. I didn't block

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mine either because I forget, did you block yours

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and it stretched? Cause we all made it with the

00:17:38.890 --> 00:17:42.690
same yarn. I did block mine, but I knit much

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tighter than you do. Right. And when I blocked

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mine, yes, it grew, but it grew to a perfect

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size. I remember you saying this, this yarn really

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stretches. And when you said that, I was like,

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this hat fits me perfectly. I'm not going to

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block it. Well, we're both very loosey -goosey.

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So if Dre is knitting tight. Learned the lesson.

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And I was not about to block it at that point.

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Mine was actually already a little bit loose

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on my head. I did not block it. It was so big

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on my head. And I have a big head. It is what

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it is, man. Sometimes I throw it in the dryer

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just to shrink it back down. Honestly. You gotta.

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And it does. It'll bring it back down. And then

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I'll wear it, I don't know, 20 times. And then

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all of a sudden it starts going. Other propaganda

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we are not buying. You can only do cool projects

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with nice yarns. Yeah. Yeah. That is incorrect.

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Yeah. If you like a yarn, do whatever you want

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with that. I have jellyfish on a really nice

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yarn. I love those jellyfish. I actually really

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want to know what pattern he used because I want

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to mix them. I'm pretty sure it's from Crafty

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Intentions and you just look up Crafty Intentions

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jellyfish and it'll pop up. But honestly, just

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an extension of that thought that any yarn is

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supposed to only do a thing. Yeah. Right. Yeah.

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Right. Or that you need to save your best yarns

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for really good projects. But here's the thing.

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If you save your yarn until you find the most

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epic project for that specific yarn, you are

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never going to get it. You're never going to

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use it. Because you're going to psych yourself

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out. You are. You will never find the right project.

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And you got it. Dude, my first my first scarves,

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my first like garter stitch scarves were made

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out of hand dyed yarn from my friend Joy. I loved

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her yarn. I bought her yarn and I supported her

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small business and I loved it. And they're garter

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stitch scarves and they are the most garbage

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knit ever. But you know what? They are gorgeous

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because the yarn makes the scarf. And I don't

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feel bad about that. oh man i knitted with some

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nice stuff and i knitted you know like i got

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a really nice fade set from fiber optics that

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i made my kid a dragon for yeah she did congratulations

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like and and that's the thing is that you'll

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get people that'll say like oh no that's that's

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a dumb thing to do like don't don't make like

00:20:01.750 --> 00:20:04.529
such a simple project with such a expensive yarn

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nah man do whatever you want or on this by the

00:20:07.829 --> 00:20:10.349
same token don't make that crazy gorgeous sweater

00:20:10.349 --> 00:20:14.000
out of cheap yarn no Make it out of what you

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want. I mean, just make sure you like it. I would

00:20:16.519 --> 00:20:19.279
just like to preface that the blue ribbon that

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I won for my daughter's sweater is all acrylic.

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What is it that Meg says? Find your joy. no it

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is it's and it is it's a it's a ridiculous idea

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that you you shouldn't make heirloom things out

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of cheap yarn you see a really nice yarn you

00:20:39.589 --> 00:20:41.430
finally want to buy it but then it's like oh

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i don't know what project because i maybe you

00:20:43.289 --> 00:20:45.490
don't do sweaters you don't do shawls maybe all

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you do is like you know make a bananasaurus we'll

00:20:47.829 --> 00:20:49.970
make that bananasaurus out of silk okay that's

00:20:49.970 --> 00:20:53.009
awesome that's gonna be a shiny bananasaurus

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i am not going to do that but i mean but you

00:20:56.990 --> 00:20:59.890
do that you know it's it's silly to have that

00:20:59.890 --> 00:21:01.869
notion especially because there are so many older

00:21:01.869 --> 00:21:05.569
generations um that made heirloom garments out

00:21:05.569 --> 00:21:09.029
of what was available and especially in you know

00:21:09.029 --> 00:21:12.670
70s 80s like acrylic was popular oh yeah yeah

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and you could wash it i have beautiful beautiful

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blankets and afghans from Literally, like, my

00:21:21.299 --> 00:21:24.460
husband's great -great -grandmother out of acrylic,

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but guess what? I'm keeping it. No. And it's

00:21:27.839 --> 00:21:31.039
an heirloom. And it's, yeah, I find it's still

00:21:31.039 --> 00:21:34.779
beautiful to me. I have two Afghans that my grandmother

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knitted, and she exclusively knit with Red Heart

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because, in her opinion, why spend more money

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when this was perfectly good and washable and

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cheap and readily available everywhere? And,

00:21:49.490 --> 00:21:51.130
you know, I treasure those. I treasure those

00:21:51.130 --> 00:21:54.089
Afghans. Yeah. Especially with, like, a blanket,

00:21:54.190 --> 00:21:56.970
though. Like, you're not going to make, like,

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you can. You can. Sure. You can make a blanket

00:22:00.690 --> 00:22:06.950
out of $32 skein Superwash Merino. Like, go live

00:22:06.950 --> 00:22:10.250
your best life. But reasonably speaking, like

00:22:10.250 --> 00:22:13.130
that's kind of unrealistic for a lot of people's

00:22:13.130 --> 00:22:16.289
budgets. So, yeah, you're going to go with something

00:22:16.289 --> 00:22:18.029
that's a little bit more durable, a little bit

00:22:18.029 --> 00:22:21.400
cheaper, you know. And I feel the same way about

00:22:21.400 --> 00:22:23.980
kid sweaters. I will never make a nice kid sweater.

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Absolutely not. Like nice yarn kid sweater is

00:22:26.480 --> 00:22:27.920
what I mean. Well, they're going to grow out

00:22:27.920 --> 00:22:29.660
of it or they're not going to take care of it.

00:22:29.839 --> 00:22:32.279
Well, Jo already grew out of the sweater I got

00:22:32.279 --> 00:22:38.180
the thing for. And she like wears it. She does.

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And it's worn. Well, you want yarn that's going

00:22:41.759 --> 00:22:44.400
to be able to take a beating. Right. And it is.

00:22:44.400 --> 00:22:46.559
It's like you don't want to put a sweater on

00:22:46.559 --> 00:22:48.319
a child and say like, okay, don't move. This

00:22:48.319 --> 00:22:50.500
is my child. Like I want you to play in it. I

00:22:50.500 --> 00:22:54.220
want you to like wearing it. Yeah. Yeah. In other

00:22:54.220 --> 00:22:56.059
senses, you know what? Like it has some really

00:22:56.059 --> 00:22:58.460
good hedgehog yarns that are like speckled and

00:22:58.460 --> 00:23:00.599
amazing and awesome. And I can't think of a garment

00:23:00.599 --> 00:23:03.140
I want with it, but it looks awesome as a beta

00:23:03.140 --> 00:23:09.220
fish. Yeah. Right. And maybe that yarn wants

00:23:09.220 --> 00:23:11.359
to be a beta fish. Maybe it does. Maybe it wants

00:23:11.359 --> 00:23:13.720
something fishy made from it. Maybe it had fish

00:23:13.720 --> 00:23:16.680
dreams. You don't know. Yeah. I had fiber optic

00:23:16.680 --> 00:23:18.940
yarn that someone asked me for a commission for,

00:23:19.059 --> 00:23:21.440
and I knew that the yarn was perfect for what

00:23:21.440 --> 00:23:23.220
she was looking for. She was asking me for a

00:23:23.220 --> 00:23:26.289
specific type of like color mix. And I was like,

00:23:26.329 --> 00:23:28.509
I have that. And it's in a fiber octave, like

00:23:28.509 --> 00:23:31.250
$32 skein of yarn. And I was just like, nah,

00:23:31.349 --> 00:23:33.390
I'll do it. And I made it and I sold it to her.

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And it was a basic like ear warmer. But guess

00:23:36.210 --> 00:23:42.049
what? She loves that ear warmer. Right. Handmade

00:23:42.049 --> 00:23:46.470
gifts are always appreciated. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

00:23:46.789 --> 00:23:49.470
Where's the barf button? That is wrong. That

00:23:49.470 --> 00:23:52.880
is propaganda we're not buying. No. like there

00:23:52.880 --> 00:23:54.880
is nothing more disappointing than spending a

00:23:54.880 --> 00:23:57.759
lot of time on something and then giving it to

00:23:57.759 --> 00:23:59.460
somebody thinking that they're going to love

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it and then they don't and they're like oh well

00:24:03.980 --> 00:24:09.059
thank you anyway yeah and I think there's also

00:24:09.059 --> 00:24:11.980
like I know I know I did it when I first started

00:24:11.980 --> 00:24:17.480
crafting um you get newbies like myself that

00:24:17.480 --> 00:24:20.140
are like oh my god i'm gonna save so much money

00:24:20.140 --> 00:24:22.700
on christmas gifts and it's like so you start

00:24:22.700 --> 00:24:25.420
knitting scarves for people that don't wear scarves

00:24:25.420 --> 00:24:28.059
um i have learned over time for example that

00:24:28.059 --> 00:24:29.480
it doesn't matter what i knit for jess she's

00:24:29.480 --> 00:24:32.779
not gonna wear it like i have she'll treasure

00:24:32.779 --> 00:24:35.980
it she'll put it aside she will love it but she's

00:24:35.980 --> 00:24:39.220
not gonna wear it so i'm not gonna knit for her

00:24:39.220 --> 00:24:42.619
and that's not me being mad or stalking off or

00:24:42.619 --> 00:24:44.599
like pouting that oh you don't like what i make

00:24:44.599 --> 00:24:48.970
you it's just She's not going to use it. So,

00:24:49.109 --> 00:24:52.150
you know, also assuming when you get into the

00:24:52.150 --> 00:24:54.069
craft that everyone's going to love what you're

00:24:54.069 --> 00:24:59.390
making. You know, if you're knitting a hat for

00:24:59.390 --> 00:25:01.690
somebody that you have never seen wear a hat

00:25:01.690 --> 00:25:06.950
in their life. Yeah. You know, it's. You're excited

00:25:06.950 --> 00:25:09.430
and that's great. Also, you may not be. You do

00:25:09.430 --> 00:25:11.589
have a lot of people that really don't understand

00:25:11.589 --> 00:25:14.369
the difference between the blanket you gave them

00:25:14.369 --> 00:25:16.430
and the blanket they got at like Walmart for

00:25:16.430 --> 00:25:19.589
five dollars. Yeah, that was going to be like

00:25:19.589 --> 00:25:23.230
my thought process after what you said was basically

00:25:23.230 --> 00:25:26.789
like the idea that people appreciate the time

00:25:26.789 --> 00:25:29.349
and effort that you put into. Right. Because.

00:25:29.960 --> 00:25:32.099
Though, you know, like you said, Jess, like people

00:25:32.099 --> 00:25:34.000
are just like, well, I could buy the same blanket

00:25:34.000 --> 00:25:36.619
at Walmart for $8. And I'm like, go live your

00:25:36.619 --> 00:25:38.640
best life and go buy that. Go buy that blanket

00:25:38.640 --> 00:25:41.940
for $8. Because this blanket in materials alone

00:25:41.940 --> 00:25:45.740
is going to be $210. And of course you have the

00:25:45.740 --> 00:25:48.359
people that do understand or maybe don't understand,

00:25:48.420 --> 00:25:50.480
but still love the fact that you made them something.

00:25:50.500 --> 00:25:53.980
But it's like, but don't expect that to be. Everybody.

00:25:53.980 --> 00:25:56.420
That's not true. It is not everybody. Right.

00:25:56.960 --> 00:25:59.140
And especially if that person's not any sort

00:25:59.140 --> 00:26:01.839
of crafter themselves and they don't understand,

00:26:01.900 --> 00:26:06.039
like, this is my time, my love, my effort, my

00:26:06.039 --> 00:26:08.779
money that I've put in for you. Not to say that

00:26:08.779 --> 00:26:12.420
only crafters would appreciate a handmade gift,

00:26:12.599 --> 00:26:15.799
but you are more likely to have a crafter appreciate

00:26:15.799 --> 00:26:20.339
a handmade gift. And, yeah. And you're kind of

00:26:20.339 --> 00:26:22.480
setting the stage for disappointment on both

00:26:22.480 --> 00:26:25.240
sides. their side because they don't know how

00:26:25.240 --> 00:26:28.000
to respond or maybe they don't know how to respond

00:26:28.000 --> 00:26:30.039
and they don't care that their response is hurting

00:26:30.039 --> 00:26:35.400
your feelings um or and in yourself for i was

00:26:35.400 --> 00:26:37.940
so pumped to give you this gift and that was

00:26:37.940 --> 00:26:41.299
a lukewarm response and i am sad now now i feel

00:26:41.299 --> 00:26:45.740
like garbage and it is it's tough The idea that

00:26:45.740 --> 00:26:48.660
you have to knit multiple different categories

00:26:48.660 --> 00:26:51.720
of items to become a prolific knitter. Wrong.

00:26:52.640 --> 00:26:55.900
Same with crochet. Same with crochet. Wrong.

00:26:56.319 --> 00:26:59.059
Propaganda we're not buying. No. Listen, I know

00:26:59.059 --> 00:27:02.519
people who make fantastic one item things. That's

00:27:02.519 --> 00:27:04.849
the only thing they make. I mean, your sister's

00:27:04.849 --> 00:27:07.450
one of them. Oh, her one by one ribs. And they're

00:27:07.450 --> 00:27:10.509
very nice and even and long and thick and warm.

00:27:10.690 --> 00:27:12.190
But that doesn't mean that's all she wants to

00:27:12.190 --> 00:27:14.609
do. And that's OK. Yep. She doesn't have to make

00:27:14.609 --> 00:27:18.410
a sweater and a cowl and a shawl and a like if

00:27:18.410 --> 00:27:21.190
she doesn't want to. No, it's fine. No, it doesn't

00:27:21.190 --> 00:27:24.369
make her any less skilled of a knitter. No. And

00:27:24.369 --> 00:27:26.089
the thing is, it's the other thing, too, is like

00:27:26.089 --> 00:27:28.740
she could there have been she's made hats. She's

00:27:28.740 --> 00:27:31.200
made a cowl. She doesn't like to do that because

00:27:31.200 --> 00:27:33.859
she can't just sit down and watch TV while she

00:27:33.859 --> 00:27:36.220
does it. She has to actually focus and pay attention

00:27:36.220 --> 00:27:38.500
to a pattern. And she doesn't want to do that.

00:27:38.940 --> 00:27:42.480
And that is also fine. Like, you should be crafting

00:27:42.480 --> 00:27:46.180
in a way that serves you because this is a hobby.

00:27:47.519 --> 00:27:50.240
And we're not winning any races here. We are

00:27:50.240 --> 00:27:51.920
literally supposed to be enjoying ourselves.

00:27:52.200 --> 00:27:53.680
And if your hobby is making you miserable, don't

00:27:53.680 --> 00:27:55.759
do your hobby. Guys, if you're crafting, you're

00:27:55.759 --> 00:27:59.630
doing it. That's it. Congratulations. Congratulations.

00:27:59.890 --> 00:28:02.029
You did a knit stitch. You're a knitter. There

00:28:02.029 --> 00:28:05.789
you go. Congrats. High five. You did it. There's

00:28:05.789 --> 00:28:09.109
really no other requirement. No. No. Like, is

00:28:09.109 --> 00:28:11.490
there levels? Sure. Is there skill levels? Sure.

00:28:11.609 --> 00:28:14.029
Like, in terms of like, you know, oh, this person

00:28:14.029 --> 00:28:16.930
knows how to do ABC stitch. Guys, your knitting

00:28:16.930 --> 00:28:20.630
can be all works in progress. Yeah. But you're

00:28:20.630 --> 00:28:24.740
actually doing the part. That makes you a knitter.

00:28:25.539 --> 00:28:28.680
Listen, I feel that in my soul as someone with

00:28:28.680 --> 00:28:31.900
15 works in progress. Listen, I have two and

00:28:31.900 --> 00:28:36.940
I feel the same way. I got one. You always have

00:28:36.940 --> 00:28:39.759
one though. No, but like if it was based on like

00:28:39.759 --> 00:28:42.000
finished objects I just have laying around, I'm

00:28:42.000 --> 00:28:44.700
not a knitter because I have nothing. And I think

00:28:44.700 --> 00:28:47.500
that's another propaganda we're not buying is

00:28:47.500 --> 00:28:51.849
that quantity does not. automatically make you

00:28:51.849 --> 00:28:55.509
a better knitter yeah neither does like a um

00:28:55.509 --> 00:28:58.289
like being well you just kind of said like the

00:28:58.289 --> 00:29:01.609
the quality or the the skill of your knitwear

00:29:01.609 --> 00:29:04.130
doesn't make you a better knitter but neither

00:29:04.130 --> 00:29:08.930
does the i cranked out 30 garments this year

00:29:08.930 --> 00:29:12.069
i'm i'm king of the knitters like that's not

00:29:12.069 --> 00:29:14.569
a thing we're not we're not working towards the

00:29:14.569 --> 00:29:18.369
title here Well, I am. Well, here you go. You

00:29:18.369 --> 00:29:20.730
can have it. Wait, can we get achievements in

00:29:20.730 --> 00:29:23.609
this game? No. Because I... Oh, man, I want achievements.

00:29:23.670 --> 00:29:26.069
I want to grind for the achievements. This is

00:29:26.069 --> 00:29:28.130
not... Is the old lady level grinding coming

00:29:28.130 --> 00:29:29.849
back up? You know what? I feel like on a subsequent

00:29:29.849 --> 00:29:31.950
episode, we should come up with an achievement

00:29:31.950 --> 00:29:34.250
system. Okay? No, no, no. That's just for fun.

00:29:34.369 --> 00:29:38.130
No, if you have more than 15 works in process,

00:29:38.289 --> 00:29:40.690
you become a whip master. Oh, we should have,

00:29:40.789 --> 00:29:43.930
like, badges? Like Girl Scouts. Girl Scout badges.

00:29:44.250 --> 00:29:47.789
Yeah. I want to be a whipmaster. Well, girl,

00:29:47.829 --> 00:29:50.410
you are the whipmaster. The original whipmaster.

00:29:50.609 --> 00:29:52.630
Thank you. You're welcome. Thank you. I'm going

00:29:52.630 --> 00:29:54.809
to make a lot of money off of unsuspecting gentlemen.

00:29:54.990 --> 00:29:59.789
Okay. Wow. Do you want to see a picture of my

00:29:59.789 --> 00:30:03.950
whips and then send them bags? They'll be like,

00:30:03.950 --> 00:30:06.150
hi, I hear you have many whips. I'm like, I do.

00:30:06.250 --> 00:30:09.779
Would you like to see them? Here they are. Thank

00:30:09.779 --> 00:30:11.940
you for your time. Five dollars, I'll show you.

00:30:11.960 --> 00:30:14.680
And thank you for the $500. I don't know what

00:30:14.680 --> 00:30:16.380
you're expecting, but here are pictures of my

00:30:16.380 --> 00:30:20.440
whips. Oh my God. I'm down for the merit badges,

00:30:20.480 --> 00:30:23.920
though. Yes. But the point still stands. There

00:30:23.920 --> 00:30:26.259
is no, like, you're never going to reach the

00:30:26.259 --> 00:30:28.059
pinnacle of knitting. You're not going to be

00:30:28.059 --> 00:30:31.900
the best knitter in the world if you accomplish

00:30:31.900 --> 00:30:36.210
X, Y, and Z. yeah this isn't a race or a competition

00:30:36.210 --> 00:30:38.930
even like i know that there's ways that you can

00:30:38.930 --> 00:30:42.190
get um through i'm not gonna i can't remember

00:30:42.190 --> 00:30:44.049
the name off the top of my head but there's a

00:30:44.049 --> 00:30:46.329
way to get like almost like a certification that

00:30:46.329 --> 00:30:48.890
you're like a master knitter yeah yeah those

00:30:48.890 --> 00:30:52.339
exist yeah but what people don't understand is

00:30:52.339 --> 00:30:55.180
like there's no like single body of like who

00:30:55.180 --> 00:30:59.180
is the master knitter guild of the universe right

00:30:59.180 --> 00:31:03.160
yeah so like when you go yeah when you go and

00:31:03.160 --> 00:31:05.779
you want to like get one of those certifications

00:31:05.779 --> 00:31:08.700
it's through that particular entity that's offering

00:31:08.700 --> 00:31:12.680
them like it's not necessarily like a universal

00:31:12.680 --> 00:31:15.839
yeah it's not like oh well you know in the united

00:31:15.839 --> 00:31:20.400
states we have the the master knitter award that

00:31:20.400 --> 00:31:22.440
comes you have to go through the u .s secretary

00:31:22.440 --> 00:31:25.759
of state office that doesn't exist yeah it's

00:31:25.759 --> 00:31:27.539
almost it's like different traditions different

00:31:27.539 --> 00:31:29.559
crafts different whatever like yeah you are a

00:31:29.559 --> 00:31:33.940
master in this um like i almost thinking of it

00:31:33.940 --> 00:31:36.420
like um like different degree certifications

00:31:36.420 --> 00:31:39.279
yeah like in different programs like according

00:31:39.279 --> 00:31:42.180
to these regulations you are a master but maybe

00:31:42.180 --> 00:31:45.460
if you go to this school you don't meet the criteria

00:31:45.460 --> 00:31:47.940
like You got to do a whole other thing. Yeah.

00:31:47.980 --> 00:31:49.859
Like certain schools are weighed heavier because

00:31:49.859 --> 00:31:51.900
they're more. Right. Or they have a focus on

00:31:51.900 --> 00:31:53.660
something else. Right. Things like that. So,

00:31:53.740 --> 00:31:56.140
yeah. But there is not like. I feel like the

00:31:56.140 --> 00:32:00.359
only reason that the master knitter certification

00:32:00.359 --> 00:32:04.799
is only necessary if you're going to like make

00:32:04.799 --> 00:32:07.420
a business out of teaching other people and you

00:32:07.420 --> 00:32:12.339
want like that kind of. yeah i have actually

00:32:12.339 --> 00:32:15.400
like well it gives you the credentials yes yeah

00:32:15.400 --> 00:32:17.660
it gives you if you're going to need credentials

00:32:17.660 --> 00:32:20.599
for i'm not the only one saying i'm awesome other

00:32:20.599 --> 00:32:23.339
people also concede that i am well and i and

00:32:23.339 --> 00:32:25.559
this isn't just me walking in and saying i know

00:32:25.559 --> 00:32:28.539
xyz and this is good and this is not like yeah

00:32:28.539 --> 00:32:31.359
can in that theory though if everybody every

00:32:31.359 --> 00:32:34.900
entity could make a master knitter crocheter

00:32:34.900 --> 00:32:38.039
certification why can't we have our own probably

00:32:38.039 --> 00:32:43.039
parted my stash master crafter i am not running

00:32:43.039 --> 00:32:46.680
that workshop okay no no no no no you're you're

00:32:46.680 --> 00:32:49.200
not there's no workshop you literally just put

00:32:49.200 --> 00:32:51.480
in your email and i send you a certificate with

00:32:51.480 --> 00:32:55.099
your name on it you win you're a knitter yay

00:32:55.099 --> 00:32:58.660
you are a knitter congratulations as far as i'm

00:32:58.660 --> 00:33:00.579
concerned i don't need somebody else to tell

00:33:00.579 --> 00:33:02.809
me that i'm good at my hobby yeah well right

00:33:02.809 --> 00:33:05.150
and if it is a hobby it's not a business but

00:33:05.150 --> 00:33:07.089
the but that's another thing too is like if you're

00:33:07.089 --> 00:33:08.690
going to be trying if you're going to be striving

00:33:08.690 --> 00:33:10.930
to improve you should be striving to improve

00:33:10.930 --> 00:33:12.970
for your own purposes whatever those purposes

00:33:12.970 --> 00:33:16.789
may be not because you're going to be the best

00:33:16.789 --> 00:33:19.230
because there is no best there never will be

00:33:19.230 --> 00:33:23.029
so do what you want don't torture yourself making

00:33:23.029 --> 00:33:26.309
garments or working with yarns that you hate

00:33:26.309 --> 00:33:31.240
I want to be the very best is catching them all

00:33:31.240 --> 00:33:33.380
catching all different gotta craft them all gotta

00:33:33.380 --> 00:33:37.380
craft them all oh yeah i don't want to do that

00:33:37.380 --> 00:33:40.480
because i feel like i'm gonna have to like make

00:33:40.480 --> 00:33:43.380
a lace weight project and that's make some noops

00:33:43.380 --> 00:33:47.599
no absolutely not no you can make it it's just

00:33:47.599 --> 00:33:50.500
called a noop and it's a pokemon type thing but

00:33:50.500 --> 00:33:55.200
it's like a noop it's just a nope it's just a

00:33:55.200 --> 00:33:57.970
nope pitch it to poke it's a ghost type it's

00:33:57.970 --> 00:34:02.109
oh and one of its moves is astonish because yes

00:34:02.109 --> 00:34:07.589
you go oh no guys that's a legit move i also

00:34:07.589 --> 00:34:17.530
use confusion it was super effective i i've been

00:34:17.530 --> 00:34:22.519
playing pokemon violet lately so Oh, that makes

00:34:22.519 --> 00:34:25.960
sense. Yeah. Yeah. There's a lot of Pokemon terms

00:34:25.960 --> 00:34:28.039
going through my head right now. That makes sense.

00:34:28.159 --> 00:34:30.480
Well, I had a lot of time on vacation to sit

00:34:30.480 --> 00:34:33.219
and actually play my video games. So that was

00:34:33.219 --> 00:34:35.800
nice. I know I'm like, I think I'm like three

00:34:35.800 --> 00:34:37.460
years behind because I think that thing came

00:34:37.460 --> 00:34:40.079
out like a long time ago, but I'm catching them

00:34:40.079 --> 00:34:42.599
all right now. Yeah, I got catching. I'm proud

00:34:42.599 --> 00:34:47.079
of you. Thank you. Neither knitting nor crochet

00:34:47.079 --> 00:34:52.380
is actually harder. oh you just learned the other

00:34:52.380 --> 00:34:56.960
one first yeah yeah i think there is so much

00:34:56.960 --> 00:34:59.619
back and forth over which is harder which is

00:34:59.619 --> 00:35:02.219
more complicated and i really do believe it just

00:35:02.219 --> 00:35:06.179
boils down to whatever you started with yep you

00:35:06.179 --> 00:35:08.800
will initially be more comfortable with you know

00:35:08.800 --> 00:35:11.500
just like everything else in life and you may

00:35:11.500 --> 00:35:13.599
get to the point where you're more comfortable

00:35:13.599 --> 00:35:16.079
with the other or you're equally comfortable

00:35:17.159 --> 00:35:20.139
But I feel like so much of the like moving into

00:35:20.139 --> 00:35:24.139
the bicraftual territory gets like shut down

00:35:24.139 --> 00:35:27.699
by I couldn't do that. That's so much harder.

00:35:27.900 --> 00:35:31.159
I'm not going to lie. I have actively been crocheting

00:35:31.159 --> 00:35:34.460
for several months now. And I still will sit

00:35:34.460 --> 00:35:36.920
here and be like, oh, crochet. That's such a

00:35:36.920 --> 00:35:38.960
cool pattern. I don't know how to do that. Yeah,

00:35:38.960 --> 00:35:46.019
it is. But you do. But I do. You do. and I'm

00:35:46.019 --> 00:35:49.480
doing it pretty good but it's hard it's it's

00:35:49.480 --> 00:35:52.400
it's like it's hard to kind of break that mentality

00:35:52.400 --> 00:35:55.079
because when you first look at whichever one

00:35:55.079 --> 00:35:56.840
you start with like you start with crochet and

00:35:56.840 --> 00:35:58.159
you look at knitting you're like I could never

00:35:58.159 --> 00:36:03.219
do two needles I I work with one hook or on the

00:36:03.219 --> 00:36:05.599
flip side I look at crochet or I did like now

00:36:05.599 --> 00:36:09.000
I I again I know the rough way to crochet um

00:36:09.000 --> 00:36:11.719
but I'm still like I look at a crochet pattern

00:36:11.719 --> 00:36:14.820
I'm like okay no okay to be fair pattern wise

00:36:14.820 --> 00:36:18.340
crochet can be ridiculous looking if you're just

00:36:18.340 --> 00:36:22.739
looking at a like a chart a chart I am only looking

00:36:22.739 --> 00:36:25.400
at crochet patterns that are written out because

00:36:25.400 --> 00:36:28.699
I am not right now but you will probably graduate

00:36:28.699 --> 00:36:32.059
eventually to the chart listen the charts let's

00:36:32.059 --> 00:36:34.579
not get ahead of ourselves they're hieroglyphics

00:36:34.579 --> 00:36:37.900
they look it here's the thing though too my um

00:36:37.900 --> 00:36:40.880
the blanket that I'm working on quote unquote

00:36:40.880 --> 00:36:45.550
um That I took a break on. So they have it written

00:36:45.550 --> 00:36:49.130
and charted. And for some of the things, the

00:36:49.130 --> 00:36:51.789
chart actually goes a little faster for me because

00:36:51.789 --> 00:36:53.630
I could just look at it and I know exactly where

00:36:53.630 --> 00:36:56.909
I am. And the written, I keep forgetting what

00:36:56.909 --> 00:37:00.489
line I'm on. And then there are parts where I'm

00:37:00.489 --> 00:37:03.730
like, I don't know what they're telling me to

00:37:03.730 --> 00:37:08.809
do in this thing. Like, I see... I think I know,

00:37:08.949 --> 00:37:10.809
but then I'll read the directions. I'm like,

00:37:10.869 --> 00:37:13.309
no, I read that wrong. Like I have, I have no

00:37:13.309 --> 00:37:17.570
idea. So I like both. Both is good. That's how

00:37:17.570 --> 00:37:21.269
I feel about knitting patterns too. So maybe,

00:37:21.409 --> 00:37:24.449
maybe I'll get to charts. We're not, we're not

00:37:24.449 --> 00:37:27.090
going to get ahead of ourselves, but I remember

00:37:27.090 --> 00:37:32.309
a time in 2008 when the words left your mouth,

00:37:32.369 --> 00:37:34.690
the immortal words of, I think I'm just going

00:37:34.690 --> 00:37:37.989
to be a scarf knitter. oh yeah I remember that

00:37:37.989 --> 00:37:41.030
day and it was garter stitch all the way oh yeah

00:37:41.030 --> 00:37:44.250
for like a year I was real happy doing that exactly

00:37:44.250 --> 00:37:46.690
yeah and then when you decided that you wanted

00:37:46.690 --> 00:37:48.969
to try something else you got comfortable doing

00:37:48.969 --> 00:37:51.409
other stuff I believe you will get to charts

00:37:51.409 --> 00:37:53.789
I think you will I think it's just a matter of

00:37:53.789 --> 00:37:56.309
getting comfortable and being ready to do it

00:37:56.309 --> 00:37:58.690
do we think we're going to get to the point where

00:37:58.690 --> 00:38:01.730
I can say that I know how to crochet You know

00:38:01.730 --> 00:38:03.929
how to crochet now. I know, but I don't believe

00:38:03.929 --> 00:38:05.690
that. Well, I think you will get there. I think

00:38:05.690 --> 00:38:09.050
you're gaslighting yourself. Absolutely. I think

00:38:09.050 --> 00:38:11.130
you are falling for some propaganda that you

00:38:11.130 --> 00:38:14.289
need to somehow reach some pinnacle of crochet

00:38:14.289 --> 00:38:16.690
before you can say that you crochet. But I've

00:38:16.690 --> 00:38:19.230
seen the turtles. You can crochet. I do like

00:38:19.230 --> 00:38:20.750
the turtles. You've made a lot of turtles. You

00:38:20.750 --> 00:38:23.989
made that bunny. You made a bananasaurus. I think

00:38:23.989 --> 00:38:26.230
you're at a point. I think the minute that you

00:38:26.230 --> 00:38:28.309
started making something, you were crocheting.

00:38:29.550 --> 00:38:32.210
i think you can say you can crochet but i'll

00:38:32.210 --> 00:38:35.010
work my opinion it's not you know you gotta be

00:38:35.010 --> 00:38:37.489
you you gotta do you i'll work on that i do talk

00:38:37.489 --> 00:38:40.329
to my therapist tomorrow so well maybe that's

00:38:40.329 --> 00:38:42.409
also propaganda we're not falling for therapy

00:38:42.409 --> 00:38:49.329
no never no um again i love my therapy no the

00:38:49.329 --> 00:38:53.409
idea that again that there is a level we have

00:38:53.409 --> 00:38:57.739
to reach before we can say I'm good enough to

00:38:57.739 --> 00:38:59.559
call myself this. Yeah, you brought that back

00:38:59.559 --> 00:39:01.500
around. I did. I did bring that back around.

00:39:02.639 --> 00:39:06.579
That's true. Look at that. Magic. I think I have

00:39:06.579 --> 00:39:09.860
an unpopular one. All right, fire away. Fiber

00:39:09.860 --> 00:39:11.619
festivals are worth it. Why would you think it's

00:39:11.619 --> 00:39:15.599
unpopular? Oh, I'm getting so thrown off. Well,

00:39:15.619 --> 00:39:19.000
because the propaganda is. So you say they're

00:39:19.000 --> 00:39:21.599
not worth it. I don't think they're worth it

00:39:21.599 --> 00:39:24.170
for everybody. That's fair. That's very fair.

00:39:24.349 --> 00:39:27.849
And there's times where I'm like, especially

00:39:27.849 --> 00:39:30.849
recently when we've gone to Rhinebeck and I've

00:39:30.849 --> 00:39:35.690
gone, there's nothing for me here. Yeah. Because

00:39:35.690 --> 00:39:38.570
I've seen the same vendors. I don't want to buy

00:39:38.570 --> 00:39:41.110
any more yarn because I'm at a point where I'm

00:39:41.110 --> 00:39:46.619
not trying to buy any. i'm not a huge socializing

00:39:46.619 --> 00:39:49.679
person so i'm not going it's a lot of people

00:39:49.679 --> 00:39:52.579
it's a lot of people yeah um i like it when we

00:39:52.579 --> 00:39:55.340
meet up with our folks yes um but like outside

00:39:55.340 --> 00:39:57.139
of that i'm just like get me out of this crowd

00:39:57.139 --> 00:39:59.920
yeah well we also went on saturday last year

00:39:59.920 --> 00:40:02.079
and that was yeah that's right yeah but i think

00:40:02.079 --> 00:40:05.460
i think there's something to say for like um

00:40:05.460 --> 00:40:07.780
i've heard people say like if you haven't gone

00:40:07.780 --> 00:40:09.780
to like a fiber fest you're like missing out

00:40:09.780 --> 00:40:12.380
and i don't think that's necessarily true no

00:40:12.380 --> 00:40:15.440
i don't think that's true well if this is what

00:40:15.440 --> 00:40:19.519
i'll say it gives you in -person access to vendors

00:40:19.519 --> 00:40:21.800
that you otherwise might only see online right

00:40:21.800 --> 00:40:25.280
so that's nice but if i also think that it gives

00:40:25.280 --> 00:40:28.400
you in -person access to people that you have

00:40:28.400 --> 00:40:31.880
only met online. Correct. And you know, it has,

00:40:31.980 --> 00:40:33.699
if you want to do workshops and all that kind

00:40:33.699 --> 00:40:36.659
of stuff. Awesome. Yeah. But every single one

00:40:36.659 --> 00:40:39.880
of those things can be done outside of a fiber.

00:40:39.920 --> 00:40:42.800
Yep. You can meet up with people that you've

00:40:42.800 --> 00:40:45.440
met online and set up a private meet. You can

00:40:45.440 --> 00:40:48.260
go see some of these vendors if they have a pop

00:40:48.260 --> 00:40:51.059
-up at a store or if they have their own store

00:40:51.059 --> 00:40:55.119
or whatever. And you also, you know, in terms

00:40:55.119 --> 00:40:57.239
of workshops and stuff, plenty of local yarn

00:40:57.239 --> 00:41:00.840
stores provide that. Right. So I don't, it's

00:41:00.840 --> 00:41:04.199
not. I don't think it's any... If you want to

00:41:04.199 --> 00:41:06.079
go to one, I think that's fine. But I don't think

00:41:06.079 --> 00:41:07.920
there's necessarily a rite of passage of what

00:41:07.920 --> 00:41:10.699
you have to do it or that anybody's missing out

00:41:10.699 --> 00:41:13.599
in doing so. Well, I also think if you want to

00:41:13.599 --> 00:41:15.599
go to one, that's awesome. Find one you want

00:41:15.599 --> 00:41:17.840
to go to. And you know what? You aren't required

00:41:17.840 --> 00:41:20.599
to go to one every year or every time it pops

00:41:20.599 --> 00:41:23.280
up. That's true. You can go to that one, that

00:41:23.280 --> 00:41:25.119
one time that you've always wanted to go with

00:41:25.119 --> 00:41:27.230
and make a... big deal of it and then you don't

00:41:27.230 --> 00:41:30.070
have to go again and and again if none of that

00:41:30.070 --> 00:41:32.690
appeals to you if you're you're fine you can

00:41:32.690 --> 00:41:35.110
just go get yarn wherever you get yarn and have

00:41:35.110 --> 00:41:38.690
fun with your local knitting circle or like it's

00:41:38.690 --> 00:41:42.010
not for everyone and that is fair it doesn't

00:41:42.010 --> 00:41:45.889
make you less of a fiber person I was having

00:41:45.889 --> 00:41:49.409
a conversation yesterday with a mom of one of

00:41:49.409 --> 00:41:51.170
my kids friends when they were having a play

00:41:51.170 --> 00:41:54.050
date and we were talking about going to New York

00:41:54.050 --> 00:41:58.630
to Broadway And talking about the fact that like

00:41:58.630 --> 00:42:03.210
we in the Northeast sometimes don't realize like

00:42:03.210 --> 00:42:07.409
how privileged we are to live so close that people

00:42:07.409 --> 00:42:09.469
across the country or across the world may go

00:42:09.469 --> 00:42:12.510
see one Broadway show their whole lives. Whereas

00:42:12.510 --> 00:42:16.210
if you live in Connecticut, you are maybe 30

00:42:16.210 --> 00:42:18.389
minutes from the train station, two hour drive

00:42:18.389 --> 00:42:21.230
into New York and you can go for a day trip.

00:42:21.389 --> 00:42:25.519
Like this is no big deal. So it's really, privileged

00:42:25.519 --> 00:42:29.659
and kind of you know insensitive and mean to

00:42:29.659 --> 00:42:32.840
treat people like oh you you've never had that

00:42:32.840 --> 00:42:35.840
experience like that's not an experience that's

00:42:35.840 --> 00:42:37.739
open to everybody so to kind of be like you've

00:42:37.739 --> 00:42:40.739
never been to Rhinebeck like we're a day trip

00:42:40.739 --> 00:42:43.900
to Rhinebeck we can go anytime but we wouldn't

00:42:43.900 --> 00:42:45.880
be there if we were in California no we would

00:42:45.880 --> 00:42:49.219
never have gone and that kind of privilege is

00:42:49.219 --> 00:42:53.789
of location is not open to everybody and so they

00:42:53.789 --> 00:42:56.889
kind of um it's it's snobby to be like well you

00:42:56.889 --> 00:42:59.309
know you haven't had this experience and that

00:42:59.309 --> 00:43:02.070
somehow makes you less you're lacking in your

00:43:02.070 --> 00:43:04.670
crafting life or in general going to any of the

00:43:04.670 --> 00:43:06.670
major ones because there's a lot now there's

00:43:06.670 --> 00:43:08.389
a lot more options now there's a lot of west

00:43:08.389 --> 00:43:11.909
coast ones that are out there um that will probably

00:43:11.909 --> 00:43:14.289
never i probably won't ever go to unless for

00:43:14.289 --> 00:43:16.349
some reason i have a friend that lives out there

00:43:16.349 --> 00:43:19.469
and i happen to be there the week right but like

00:43:19.469 --> 00:43:22.619
it's not um Yeah. You're not flying out there

00:43:22.619 --> 00:43:25.179
for it. No. No. It's not a bucket list. No. And

00:43:25.179 --> 00:43:27.360
it's not. And again, it's not because I think

00:43:27.360 --> 00:43:29.920
those things I'm not saying naysaying them. I'm

00:43:29.920 --> 00:43:35.780
just saying that if if you enjoy the extroverted

00:43:35.780 --> 00:43:39.519
social aspect of being at a festival in general.

00:43:39.619 --> 00:43:43.039
So like if you like. you know, a lot of crowds

00:43:43.039 --> 00:43:47.239
and seeing in -person things like workshops and

00:43:47.239 --> 00:43:50.260
like people spinning and like you want to meet

00:43:50.260 --> 00:43:52.340
your vendors face to face. Like, yeah. Yeah,

00:43:52.420 --> 00:43:54.480
it's a good time. I think of it too is like.

00:43:56.900 --> 00:43:59.340
Maybe I'm embarrassing myself by bringing this

00:43:59.340 --> 00:44:02.199
up, but in the pro wrestling community, there's

00:44:02.199 --> 00:44:04.400
an opportunity to go to Fanatics Fest where you

00:44:04.400 --> 00:44:06.280
can go and meet all your wrestlers. And it's

00:44:06.280 --> 00:44:08.880
real close to us. I will never go to that. Absolutely

00:44:08.880 --> 00:44:12.659
not. Absolutely not. I would love to meet some

00:44:12.659 --> 00:44:16.739
people, but not like that. but yeah it sounds

00:44:16.739 --> 00:44:21.880
overwhelming and exhausting and i just know it's

00:44:21.880 --> 00:44:24.539
a it's a lot of people it's in new york i think

00:44:24.539 --> 00:44:29.699
it is yeah it's not that far it's not i had toyed

00:44:29.699 --> 00:44:34.699
with the notion of going to meet the ms and ask

00:44:34.699 --> 00:44:39.929
him if he remembered my brother oh my god It's

00:44:39.929 --> 00:44:43.570
a cool story. I will share it if you would like

00:44:43.570 --> 00:44:48.550
it. You can DM me anytime. But then I said, I

00:44:48.550 --> 00:44:53.489
don't want to go for like a joke notion. Right.

00:44:53.610 --> 00:44:56.510
That is way too much stimulation for me to do

00:44:56.510 --> 00:45:00.110
for like a little bit of joy. It's a lot of it's

00:45:00.110 --> 00:45:04.789
a lot of input. for very little. That's how I

00:45:04.789 --> 00:45:06.590
feel about every single live music experience

00:45:06.590 --> 00:45:08.989
at this point in my life. I'm not going to have

00:45:08.989 --> 00:45:11.150
fun. Like I may be excited for it and I'm going

00:45:11.150 --> 00:45:13.369
to get there and be like, I have regrets. I don't

00:45:13.369 --> 00:45:15.050
want to be here anymore. I made a decision. Frank

00:45:15.050 --> 00:45:17.070
asked if we could go to Coachella and I'm like,

00:45:17.130 --> 00:45:22.050
whoa. Wow. Whoa, that escalated quickly. He has

00:45:22.050 --> 00:45:25.530
been to Coachella with his sister. He has. I

00:45:25.530 --> 00:45:27.710
could see that. I could see Frank at Coachella.

00:45:28.440 --> 00:45:31.900
Will you be allowed to be in a room with no noise

00:45:31.900 --> 00:45:35.340
with headphones and a blanket? I will go to the

00:45:35.340 --> 00:45:39.099
area and I will do my thing. Yeah. Like I'll

00:45:39.099 --> 00:45:43.960
chill in the hotel. He can go do that. So related

00:45:43.960 --> 00:45:46.639
to that one time when we were in North Carolina,

00:45:46.820 --> 00:45:49.380
we had, there was, I really liked the band bad

00:45:49.380 --> 00:45:52.400
wolves are yeah. Bad wolves. And like, they were

00:45:52.400 --> 00:45:55.760
playing as like an opener for somebody else.

00:45:55.820 --> 00:45:57.940
Like, I can't remember who the other band. was

00:45:57.940 --> 00:46:00.820
but somebody who is a lot more famous than them

00:46:00.820 --> 00:46:04.820
I want to it was some kind of 2000s alternative

00:46:04.820 --> 00:46:06.900
band I can't remember at the top of my head that's

00:46:06.900 --> 00:46:10.199
how much I didn't care about the headliner and

00:46:10.199 --> 00:46:12.159
and I said to Pat I was like you know what the

00:46:12.159 --> 00:46:15.000
tickets are really cheap can we just go and just

00:46:15.000 --> 00:46:16.920
see bad wolves and then I'm gonna like we can

00:46:16.920 --> 00:46:18.800
leave and he's like oh yeah that sounds great

00:46:18.800 --> 00:46:21.820
so like we went we like we had great seats we

00:46:21.820 --> 00:46:24.300
were like right up towards like maybe fifth row

00:46:24.300 --> 00:46:26.750
or something like that on the side We saw Bad

00:46:26.750 --> 00:46:30.130
Wolves play. Their set lasted about 45 minutes.

00:46:30.829 --> 00:46:32.869
And like the whole show was like three hours

00:46:32.869 --> 00:46:35.570
long. And then as soon as they were done, we

00:46:35.570 --> 00:46:38.309
were like, OK. And so we started walking out

00:46:38.309 --> 00:46:40.329
and the security people are looking at us like,

00:46:40.409 --> 00:46:42.989
wait, like there's still show. And we're like,

00:46:43.030 --> 00:46:44.730
oh, no, we saw who we wanted to see. We're good.

00:46:44.789 --> 00:46:48.360
Yeah. And we just continue. They look so dumbfounded.

00:46:48.440 --> 00:46:50.500
I was like, hey, we're trying to beat the traffic.

00:46:50.639 --> 00:46:52.760
Yeah, we're good. We're good. We just wanted

00:46:52.760 --> 00:46:55.119
to see bad wolves. We're good. I just but yeah,

00:46:55.300 --> 00:46:56.860
because like at the end of the day, I just I

00:46:56.860 --> 00:46:59.219
that's what you want to do only because the tickets

00:46:59.219 --> 00:47:01.420
were reasonable. They were like 30 bucks a person

00:47:01.420 --> 00:47:04.019
like it was so reasonable. So what we're really

00:47:04.019 --> 00:47:07.300
trying to say is. the level of participation

00:47:07.300 --> 00:47:11.440
that you want to have is acceptable. Right. And

00:47:11.440 --> 00:47:13.920
it doesn't make you any better than anybody else.

00:47:13.940 --> 00:47:15.559
If you've gone, it doesn't make you any better.

00:47:15.599 --> 00:47:17.360
If you haven't gone, like we're not talking about

00:47:17.360 --> 00:47:19.500
like reverse hipsterism of, well, I would never

00:47:19.500 --> 00:47:22.760
be so uncool as to go to a fiber festival. Nobody's

00:47:22.760 --> 00:47:24.500
saying that. No, they are fun. They are a lot

00:47:24.500 --> 00:47:26.239
of fun. Well, they can be. They can be a lot

00:47:26.239 --> 00:47:28.179
of fun. And if it's not your cup of tea, then

00:47:28.179 --> 00:47:30.739
it's not a lot of fun and you don't need to go.

00:47:30.940 --> 00:47:33.519
Like, it's really, it is totally up to you. Or

00:47:33.519 --> 00:47:35.460
if you want to stick with, like, a local fiber

00:47:35.460 --> 00:47:37.380
festival that's a little bit smaller. Like, I

00:47:37.380 --> 00:47:39.500
know our Connecticut one's way smaller and it's

00:47:39.500 --> 00:47:41.000
a lot more reasonable if you're looking for,

00:47:41.059 --> 00:47:43.420
like, kind of a similar experience but in a toned

00:47:43.420 --> 00:47:45.639
down fashion. Yeah, find your local ones. I love

00:47:45.639 --> 00:47:49.719
the local ones. Yeah. I mean, the big ones, yes.

00:47:49.780 --> 00:47:53.739
Are they... an experience yes or is it an experience

00:47:53.739 --> 00:47:56.739
that you will incredibly miss if you don't do

00:47:56.739 --> 00:48:01.320
it no you'll be okay yeah it'll be okay yeah

00:48:01.320 --> 00:48:04.039
it doesn't make you morally superior if you go

00:48:04.039 --> 00:48:07.980
crafting your own wardrobe will save you money

00:48:07.980 --> 00:48:12.000
it will not it will not if anyone believes that

00:48:12.000 --> 00:48:15.860
they're so misguided people who believe that

00:48:15.860 --> 00:48:18.940
are not crafters I mean, making your own wardrobe.

00:48:19.000 --> 00:48:21.440
I mean, it's nice to be able to custom make your

00:48:21.440 --> 00:48:25.260
own sweaters. That's fantastic. But it's not

00:48:25.260 --> 00:48:27.659
saving you money. So the other side of the expenses

00:48:27.659 --> 00:48:31.719
is your time, right? It is your time. And are

00:48:31.719 --> 00:48:35.139
you willing to dedicate the amount of time that

00:48:35.139 --> 00:48:39.000
goes into creating a knit? And if you do, like,

00:48:39.099 --> 00:48:42.519
great. I couldn't find the dress that I wanted

00:48:42.519 --> 00:48:44.960
to wear to my graduation. So Jess and I made

00:48:44.960 --> 00:48:47.480
the exact one that I wanted when I graduated

00:48:47.480 --> 00:48:50.519
with my MA. I love that dress. I still have it.

00:48:50.559 --> 00:48:53.000
I'm so proud of it. It's got a ton of mistakes

00:48:53.000 --> 00:48:56.420
that I made. But they're yours. But you know

00:48:56.420 --> 00:48:58.320
what? You know, it was so funny as I was walking

00:48:58.320 --> 00:49:00.739
out of graduation. Somebody asked me where I

00:49:00.739 --> 00:49:02.679
got it. And I said that we made it. And she was

00:49:02.679 --> 00:49:04.559
like, do you sell it? And I laughed so hard.

00:49:04.679 --> 00:49:06.960
I was like, if you could see the inside of this

00:49:06.960 --> 00:49:08.860
dress, you would know. I did. I said, you are

00:49:08.860 --> 00:49:10.519
so sweet. But if you could see this. seams on

00:49:10.519 --> 00:49:12.900
this thing you would know why i would never do

00:49:12.900 --> 00:49:15.920
that oh yeah it had lining did it oh yeah it's

00:49:15.920 --> 00:49:19.679
very pretty um but yeah like it definitely did

00:49:19.679 --> 00:49:22.579
not save me money and it certainly did not save

00:49:22.579 --> 00:49:25.440
me time it took us two months to make that dress

00:49:25.440 --> 00:49:30.440
so yeah you're you're putting in a lot paid patterns

00:49:30.440 --> 00:49:33.039
are better than freed patterns oh yeah no yeah

00:49:33.039 --> 00:49:38.109
not yeah that's and that's a tough one Because

00:49:38.109 --> 00:49:40.369
that's the thing. I've had paid patterns that

00:49:40.369 --> 00:49:43.250
I'm like, you did not vet this. You did not have

00:49:43.250 --> 00:49:46.230
this checked. I always think about those gloves

00:49:46.230 --> 00:49:50.309
that you made, Jess. Oh, my God. Yeah. The fact

00:49:50.309 --> 00:49:52.670
that you paid money for that angers me so hard.

00:49:53.329 --> 00:49:55.789
If I knew it was just that, I'm like, dude, I

00:49:55.789 --> 00:49:56.949
could have made this myself. It was just the

00:49:56.949 --> 00:49:58.710
chart, right? Yeah, it was just the chart. It

00:49:58.710 --> 00:50:00.170
was just the chart and they charged you like

00:50:00.170 --> 00:50:02.630
a lot. It was an expensive pattern. Yeah, it

00:50:02.630 --> 00:50:05.300
was pretty up there. Yeah. And I was. It wasn't

00:50:05.300 --> 00:50:07.980
the full glove. No, it was just the color work.

00:50:08.199 --> 00:50:10.440
It was the color work. And they had a note in

00:50:10.440 --> 00:50:12.780
there of where you would put the thumb gusset.

00:50:12.920 --> 00:50:15.480
Wow. But it was not generous. But they also weren't

00:50:15.480 --> 00:50:18.539
advertising it as like, you know, warning. This

00:50:18.539 --> 00:50:21.760
is just a chart for color work. I have no problem.

00:50:22.159 --> 00:50:25.719
Like if you say this is just a chart, you can

00:50:25.719 --> 00:50:28.539
whack this on like a hat or mittens or whatever

00:50:28.539 --> 00:50:31.019
the heck you want. But yeah, no, she really got.

00:50:31.840 --> 00:50:33.739
I mean, that's okay. But yeah, they didn't have

00:50:33.739 --> 00:50:36.420
anything about the cuff. They didn't have anything.

00:50:36.619 --> 00:50:37.800
They didn't even tell you how many stitches to

00:50:37.800 --> 00:50:39.820
cast on. They told you nothing. Like, again,

00:50:39.880 --> 00:50:43.000
the mitten started. So you could guess from that.

00:50:43.079 --> 00:50:45.199
But most of those start with a ribbed cuff, which

00:50:45.199 --> 00:50:48.099
has a larger stitch count. And then you do a

00:50:48.099 --> 00:50:50.239
decrease row. And then you get into, like, the

00:50:50.239 --> 00:50:53.920
color work. And it didn't say if you did that

00:50:53.920 --> 00:50:56.699
or if you didn't do that. Or it didn't give you

00:50:56.699 --> 00:50:59.199
a cuff at all. It literally started at the mitten.

00:50:59.260 --> 00:51:02.650
And I was like, I... okay like that's not how

00:51:02.650 --> 00:51:05.969
mittens go but that's okay i added my own spin

00:51:05.969 --> 00:51:08.090
to it and they came out great but i was like

00:51:08.090 --> 00:51:10.210
okay this is gonna take me longer now because

00:51:10.210 --> 00:51:13.389
i have to adjust this right and nobody should

00:51:13.389 --> 00:51:15.949
assume that like if i'm gonna pay for a pattern

00:51:15.949 --> 00:51:18.929
like i i expect to be told you know what i need

00:51:18.929 --> 00:51:22.190
to do please give me instructions i mean i like

00:51:22.190 --> 00:51:23.989
the instructions and i expect those instructions

00:51:23.989 --> 00:51:26.190
to be correct If I've paid for it. Or clear.

00:51:26.309 --> 00:51:30.070
Clear, correct. I expect that there's been some

00:51:30.070 --> 00:51:31.909
effort put into putting this pattern together

00:51:31.909 --> 00:51:34.670
and it is correct. I don't mind if there's mistakes

00:51:34.670 --> 00:51:37.650
as long as it's rectified. Yeah. Right. Is there

00:51:37.650 --> 00:51:41.269
a rata? If I paid it and then I say, hey, there's

00:51:41.269 --> 00:51:43.789
an issue here. I can't resolve it. And the designer

00:51:43.789 --> 00:51:46.530
comes back and says, oh my God, my B. Here you

00:51:46.530 --> 00:51:49.960
go. Here's the fix. Right. I'm still fine. oh

00:51:49.960 --> 00:51:52.119
yeah if you don't provide any errata and you're

00:51:52.119 --> 00:51:54.019
not doing anything at all like oh forget that

00:51:54.019 --> 00:51:58.760
forget that no get that yeah so and yeah and

00:51:58.760 --> 00:52:00.760
sometimes free patterns i'm like oh my god why

00:52:00.760 --> 00:52:03.420
is this free yeah like you put so much work into

00:52:03.420 --> 00:52:06.579
this same note you don't necessarily have to

00:52:06.579 --> 00:52:10.320
sell your patterns for money that yeah nope some

00:52:10.320 --> 00:52:12.800
people do just like putting them up and sharing

00:52:12.800 --> 00:52:16.039
and you know what awesome to you guys like community

00:52:16.039 --> 00:52:20.659
effort guys those uh octopus stuffies that i've

00:52:20.659 --> 00:52:23.440
been making those free pattern yeah my little

00:52:23.440 --> 00:52:26.280
dragon keychains are were free pattern love it

00:52:26.280 --> 00:52:29.179
and honestly sometimes like not i i know we we

00:52:29.179 --> 00:52:30.840
talk about like know your worth charge your worth

00:52:30.840 --> 00:52:33.710
all that but especially when you are starting

00:52:33.710 --> 00:52:36.110
out I know when I started knitting I wasn't about

00:52:36.110 --> 00:52:39.130
to buy any patterns because I didn't know if

00:52:39.130 --> 00:52:41.949
I could actually do it I wanted to see the pattern

00:52:41.949 --> 00:52:45.090
before I started knitting it yeah and that is

00:52:45.090 --> 00:52:48.650
a great way also to kind of get people to knit

00:52:48.650 --> 00:52:51.030
and and also it's like if they knit a pattern

00:52:51.030 --> 00:52:53.750
and they like it they'll probably go back to

00:52:53.750 --> 00:52:56.829
you again and and be more inclined to purchase

00:52:56.829 --> 00:52:59.190
your paid patterns because they know you they

00:52:59.190 --> 00:53:01.179
like your stuff they know you you give do good

00:53:01.179 --> 00:53:03.659
work yeah i like to do a mix i have some free

00:53:03.659 --> 00:53:06.699
and some paid and the ones that are paid are

00:53:06.699 --> 00:53:09.119
the ones that were a pain in me but but it's

00:53:09.119 --> 00:53:11.159
scary to buy a pattern when you don't know you're

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not sure what you're doing like it's or yeah

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guys sorry too like i don't trust any patterns

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without at least one picture oh yeah like i want

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i want to see the what yeah some patterns don't

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have pictures yeah how do you know what you're

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making you don't I mean, it might say in the

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specs. It'll say in the specs what it is. Surprise

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pattern. What a mystery. It's a mystery make

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-along, which makes sense. But yeah, if it's

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just a... But also, you should have at least

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one that you knit or crocheted. You should have

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done something. You should have something. There

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should be something. And I've seen sweaters with

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half a sleeve done. Sure. fine like you have

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you have knit enough of this to show me that

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i can see what the pattern is going to look like

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but if there's nothing and i don't even see what

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that you've done it i'm gonna be a little bit

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skeptical i did that with my scarf you knit enough

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scarf enough scarf that you could see what and

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that's the thing with a scarf is it's the same

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yeah yeah you did multiple pattern repeats you

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can see and that's that is i i would think perfectly

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acceptable you can see what it is yeah um and

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you also had test knitters that finished it i

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did um but but throwing a pattern out there where

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there's nothing there's no picture there's no

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unless it's the mystery thing like you were saying

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yeah yeah and a lot of people aren't buying mystery

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patterns from new designers that have never put

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anything out before that yeah they're doing mystery

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patterns from people that they know and they

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