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I'm Drea. I'm Meg. I'm Tina. And I'm Jess. And

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this is Pardon My Stash. Welcome back to Pardon

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My Stash, a podcast about crafting fiber arts

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and how awesome it is. Yeah. I was sorry. I'm

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adjusting the sound. That's okay. She did it

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enough for both of you. was i supposed to go

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to no usually you do usually you both do the

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woohoo a hearty hurrah to you sir apparently

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she did enough for both of you we have gotten

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30 seconds in oh yes we have um before we launch

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into today's topics let's talk about what we're

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working on andrea you ready bananas yeah you

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are That's legit. I'm making bananas. It's literally

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bananas. It is bananas. It's totally bananas.

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I have frogged the entire Bananasaurus and started

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anew. The whole thing. The whole thing. The whole

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thing. The whole thing. Is this one smaller?

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It looks a little smaller. It is smaller. I am

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using a smaller hook. It looks like more sturdy.

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It looks better. It looks way more sturdy. Like

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the legs look sturdier. It's standing on its

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own and everything. Yes. I am learning crochet

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as I go. One stitch at a time. I love it. I'm

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just, you know, I'm really taking my time with

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it. So this is the Bananasaurus crochet pattern

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by Emerald Rose Crochet. I think I bought it

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on Etsy. I think you did. I vaguely remember

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that. I think I did. I'm using Big Twist Baby

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Bear. And I think the color is sunshine. That

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also sounds familiar. Or lemon drops. I'm not

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sure. I think it's sunshine and lemon drops and

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yellow. Are you done? No. Ew. It is yellow. It

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is bright yellow. It is. Fantastic. It looks

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like a banana. It's lovely. Yes. But since we

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last recorded, I have also made several octopi.

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Octopi. Octopi. The octopi are very cute. They

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are so cute. And do you know what? Frank's mom

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has taken every single one of them. I love that

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for her. I do too. Where is she putting them?

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I don't know. Oh, you don't know. I thought she

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was like, they're in her collection. All right.

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They are in her collection. And every time she

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sees me working on them, she's like, oh, is that

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for me? Sure is. I do like purple. Sure is. Love

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it. So if I finish one while I'm there, like,

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how can I say no? Oh, yeah, I know. She's just

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so cute. So Norma is getting all of. the octopi

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right now oh uh tina i have zero zilch nada i

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got nothing for you or me i just felt like singing

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it i thought it would make it more substantial

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of a segment okay that's it congratulations all

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right i'm happy for you thanks it's good to take

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a load off your plate Jess, I'm distracted by

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a cat in the box, but I am working still on the

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cat knit pullover by Andrea Rangel, and it's

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taking me forever, but I'm still trucking along.

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I've got almost a full cat. Almost a full cat.

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That's pretty good. I'm using Critical Hit Dye

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Sorcerer in the colorways, Displacer, and Embers.

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It's getting there. It is getting there. What's

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going to happen when you get past the yoke? Oh,

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God, who knows? I know. The yoke is taking you

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this long. What's going to happen when you have

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the miles of blue stock in it? Well, no, I haven't

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split for sleeves yet, so I feel like that might

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make it go a little faster once I do that. So

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we'll see. We're getting there. It's slow, but

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it's happening. Meg, what are you working on?

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A whole lot of not much. I mean, I've been working,

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quote unquote, on Winterlight by Meg Gadsby.

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I really do like this pattern. It's quite simple.

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But I'm kind of maxing out at maybe half a row

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a day. And that's like the norm. When I have

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to take the kid to gymnastics, I generally get

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a little bit more done because I actually have

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time to just sit and do nothing else but knit.

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I haven't really been going as fast as I would

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like, but it's a decent pattern. It's a good

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pattern. The yarn that I'm using is Fiber Optics

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Cashmere Gradient in Texas Blue Bonnets, and

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it's really the perfect pattern for it because

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this yarn does not need anything fancy to really

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shine. I love the way that it's moving the gradient

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along. I can't wait to get to the really bright

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blue part because that's my favorite part of

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the yarn, but that's going to come at the end.

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So yeah, it's going. I'm just not spending as

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much time knitting as I previously had. Same

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girl, same. Me too, because I have picked up

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more hobbies. Yeah, same. Have I told you about

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my bread making yet? No. I've got a sourdough

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starter sitting on my counter now. Noise. Man.

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Soon. There will be lots of sourdough. You got

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to do sourdough pretzels. I'm going to make sourdough

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bagels. I'm very excited. But yes, pretzels too.

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She brought dinner rolls over for Easter. And

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my goddaughter probably ate half of them. She

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did. She had like a thing of butter next to her

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and she's just like. yes had rolls on rolls all

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right so in that vein of talking about other

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hobbies and things we've been doing we've had

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kind of an unofficial hiatus for the last couple

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weeks um things have been happening probably

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noticed we were not releasing episodes um and

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as we've not discussed publicly, but we've definitely

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discussed privately. There's a lot going on right

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now in the United States and the rest of the

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world. So tonight we're going to talk a little

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bit about how we are dealing with that, what

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we are doing, how we are coping, what we are

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thinking, and we're going to take it from there.

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So we've already started talking about Drea,

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Drea with her bread. Bread. What else is going

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on, Drea? Crochet. Crochet and bread. That sounds

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beautiful. Isn't it? And I have also been playing...

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What is that noise? Ice Maker. And I have also

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been playing... They released for the PS5 an

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HD version of the Okami game. Oh, my God. That's

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a blast from the past. I heard that was coming

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out, but I forgot when the date was. Do you know

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what they're also doing? They're making a part

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two. Ooh. I know. Like a sequel? Because they

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did like a prequel at some point. Two. That's

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exciting. That was a beautiful game. That was

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so long ago. I have also been enjoying quite

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a lot watching Frank play God of War. Which one?

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God of War is just... The first one. First one's

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pretty decent. Do you know who the voice actor

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is for Kratos? You should know this. I should

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know this. You should know this because I pegged

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it immediately. No, but you're going to tell

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us. I am going to tell you. It is Christopher

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Judge. That's right. And do you know what we're

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watching now? Yes. Stargate. Stargate. Nice.

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Stargate. Nice. It is so good. It is so good.

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Like, oh, Christopher Judge. Man, what a treat.

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I heard it. And I was like, yes. Nope. Yes. And

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Frank was like, what does that mean? Yeah. Well,

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Frank, now you're going to know. Here's the entire

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lore of Stargate. Nope. Didn't even do that.

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I was like, man, do you know what you got to

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do? You got to turn that game off because bam,

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movie. Yeah. You got to get through the movie.

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You got to get through the movie first because

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it sets everything up and then you can watch

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the series. That's how it goes. And the movie

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isn't that bad, even though the actors are different.

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Yeah. It's enjoyable. But the series is better.

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Richard Dean Anderson was a glow up. Yeah. Yeah.

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My dad and I only watched the series. We didn't

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start with the movie at all. We started with

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the series and we watched it all the way through.

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I cried and laughed with my dad through that

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whole series. I had no idea that your dad loved

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Stargate. My dad was obsessed with Stargate.

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Listen, the nerdiness didn't come out of nowhere.

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Okay. It definitely wasn't my mom. It was my

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dad. I feel like I missed out on so many nerd

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conversations. Oh yeah. My dad, my dad watched

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like every spinoff, every single, like he watched

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more than I did. I watched the original series

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with him, but there were like spinoffs that like

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I would come into the den and he'd be like, well,

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I'm like, is that Stargate? And he's like, Oh,

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this is Stargate. Atlantis. Yeah. And I was like,

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Oh, okay. I actually never got into Atlantis.

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Yeah. But. Oh, my dad did. I've seen all of OT

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Stargate A plus. And you listeners should also

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watch Stargate because it is absolutely A+. Now

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that we've nerded out about Stargate. So sorry.

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But those are like all of my new things that

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I'm very much into right now. Fantastic. I am

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making sourdough. I'm making rolls. Rolls on

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rolls on rolls. Actually, what's really good

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is like the focaccia bread. frank needs to stop

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asking me to make the cinnamon roll focaccia

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because i want to make other stuff and i have

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like this strawberry one lined up and man he's

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in for a treat if he stops asking for cinnamon

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rolls he's got to suspend his uh What's the word

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I'm looking for here? I was going to say suspend

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disbelief and that's incorrect. No, he needs

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to broaden his horizon. That's what I was looking

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for. That's what I was looking for. It's tough

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though. Like if you, you know, you can go to

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the same restaurant and you're like, I could

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order something new or I could order this thing

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that I love and that I know I'm going to like.

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You mean like every time I go to Sabadee and

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I get Pad Woon Sen because it's like the best.

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Yeah. It's hard. Sometimes it's hard to branch

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out because you're like, I know this other thing

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could be good, but I know this thing is really

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good. good exactly so yeah it's hard the internet's

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been a hot mess hasn't it though yeah and every

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time i hear of a another closure you know with

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yarn saver i enjoy getting like talking with

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businesses helping them out when they want to

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liquidate but i don't want to see it as often

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as i do there's a lot of people closing down

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there are it's just uh turned into an expensive

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mess well there's not a lot of um what's the

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word stability right now no there's not a lot

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of stability like if you were kind of you know

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making ends meet type of thing and then this

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all went down um i just every time i get you

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know a contact with that i always feel like i

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i feel like it's a duty on my on my part because

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like i want to help you know i don't want them

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to i want them to get something back for what

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they got but um But it's not something I enjoy

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seeing a lot of. Well, we don't often think of

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like knitting, crochet, crafting, et cetera,

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as like a luxury hobby. But when push comes to

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shove, a lot of times, especially nowadays, it

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is like most of us are not doing knitting or

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crocheting. You know, we're not making things

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for survival. And in times of uncertainty, luxuries

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are the first things to go. That's when people

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start to. kind of pare down their shopping pare

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down their their hobbies um and that's i think

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that's really is causing the the entire crafting

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world to be upheaved and it's really unfortunate

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You know, for me, I've actually noticed I'm sewing

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more because I'm mending more. And when I'm knitting,

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it's to create like patches and stuff. Like I'm

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literally making like little patches right now

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to go on the knees of a pair of jeans that I

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really love. But the holes have gotten so ridiculously

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big and I look like a... 13 -year -old teenager

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in 2006 who's about to talk about how her life

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is terrible and, you know, have my chemical romance

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in the background. So I don't want to do that

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as a 37 -year -old. So I want to patch up the

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holes. But the jeans are really comfortable.

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Anyway. I've actually been doing a lot of patches

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on the ladies' sweaters at work. Oh, yeah, yeah,

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yeah. Like picking up the stitches and creating

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new stitches there, which is fun. But difficult

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sometimes. Well, I feel good about it when I

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like fix something because I can wear it again

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or use it again. But it's definitely like you

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said, it's not this like, oh, I'm going to make

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a luxurious shawl or something like now I need

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to do practical stuff right now. Right. That's

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what we're down to. I love how I'm sitting here

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agreeing with you as I'm making a Bananasaurus.

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No, no, your Bananasaurus is so necessary right

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now, it's not even funny. Well, I don't think

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it's the crafting itself that is a luxury, but

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the buying of crafting materials is the luxury.

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And I think a lot of us recognize that we do

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have substantial stashes. Not anymore. You should

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see my stash now. You've downsized a lot. No,

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I think I'm down to about a quarter of what I

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had before. Yeah, no, like I'm... And if you

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don't know, like my stash was literally, it was

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a substantial amount for a single person. But

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at this point, I can fit it into like a six by

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three, not six, five by three cubby. Good for

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you. And it's not packed. Good for you. I actually

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have room to put like my project bags and like

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a couple of sets that I picked up. Allow the

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yarn to aerate. Yeah, like not like how I had

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it before where it was like, where is it? I don't

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know. You have to look behind the 20 pounds in

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front of it. But it's, yeah. No, I definitely,

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yeah, it's not. Definitely not as big as it used

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to be. And that's between selling and also just

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using. I've been using a lot too, so. So it is.

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It's, you know, I think it, I mean, we've definitely,

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downgraded we made announcement with critical

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hit about two months ago that we were going to

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stop using i think more than half of our bases

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um simply because we don't know what's going

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to happen with the tariffs we don't even know

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what's what's happening now i mean we're kind

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of hovering and hedging our bets but certain

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bases were not lucrative people were not buying

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them so we and it was also really hard for us

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to keep up with trying to oh you know have everything

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on 13 different bases a lot of yarn so i mean

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we downsized for that reason but there's also

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been a lot of like apprehension about you know

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how how is this going to affect us all of our

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bases are um you know come from overseas so how

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is this going to affect business and i think

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a lot of other businesses are in the same boat

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yeah at least when i'm getting uh the Small companies

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that I have talked to, you know, small batch

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dyers and stuff like that. It's a lot of that.

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It's, you know, my base is overseas. My dyes

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are from overseas. I can't afford to bring them

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in anymore. And I just can't do it anymore. And

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some of it's just in shipping now, too. Right.

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And if you're raising, you have to raise it.

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Well, you also get to a point where it's like

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the market's not going to stand for it. Like

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if to sell something, you have to raise the price.

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To a point where people are just not going to

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buy it. It's not a business model that can hold.

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Well, it's hard to buy things when you can't

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afford them. Exactly. Well, if your customer

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base can't afford it. But also if you can't afford

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to create the product without spending so much

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money that it's cost prohibitive to make it.

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It gets really tough. I had one of those dyers

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show me an inventory sheet. The price of the

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base didn't really change that much. But then

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she showed me the tariff that got applied to

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it. Say it was $2, the tariff was like $3 .50.

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Yeah. So you're paying more in tariffs than you're

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paying for the actual product. Yeah, it was like,

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and then it's like for her, she's like, if I

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raise my price to cover this tariff, people are

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going to say my yarn's ridiculous. Right. And

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I'm like, yeah, I don't know. Well, and that's

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the thing. It's like, it doesn't matter how beautiful

00:16:46.210 --> 00:16:50.139
your yarn is. there's market price. There's what

00:16:50.139 --> 00:16:51.899
people will afford. It's the same way like if

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say you're going to a seafood restaurant and

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you want to have a good lobster. Like there's

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a certain point that you can say market price

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for lobster, but there's a certain point where

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people are going to be like, okay, no, I don't

00:17:05.039 --> 00:17:07.859
want it that badly. And that's the way it is

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with anything. Like if it gets to the point where

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it's cost prohibitive, like it's costing you

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so much money to make it and people are not buying

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it. yeah so market cannot hold this is an economics

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podcast now correct which is terrible because

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let me tell you that was my lowest score on my

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praxis too. I take, I absolutely, no, I don't

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like that. I only passed the praxis because I

00:17:39.710 --> 00:17:41.910
had stellar grades in us world and government,

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but my economic score was dismal. I can hear

00:17:45.230 --> 00:17:47.369
my dad now just looking at me with so much shame.

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We are only mentioning economics to the point

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that we have actually experienced. Yeah, pretty

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much. Pretty much. This is, yeah, no, no, absolutely

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not. Disclaimer. here yeah this is just what

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the number of times my kids have asked me about

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tariffs and i'm like oh dear god please make

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sure i'm not messing this one up because economics

00:18:04.099 --> 00:18:07.099
and it's not my strong suit on a fortunate side

00:18:07.099 --> 00:18:09.200
yarn saver doesn't get affected by tariffs because

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i don't import anything i'm you know everything's

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domestic um but on a negative side when you know

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that it's hard to price items too because um

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the cost now that i might not have to buy you

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know deal with tariffs but everything else went

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up right my electricity went up i joined a uh

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collective it was like a fiber business collective

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and they she had a thread on there and she was

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asking us what are like the invisible costs that

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we're dealing with and i was just like electricity

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the cost of ziplock bags yeah you know like people

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don't think about that because like they're like

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oh yeah you just take a picture of the yard and

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throw it up i'm like no i have to like power

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my freezer your mailer bags like the mailer the

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labels the mailing labels the printer ink like

00:19:01.720 --> 00:19:03.740
people don't realize the amount of money that

00:19:03.740 --> 00:19:06.480
goes into running the water we spend more water

00:19:06.480 --> 00:19:10.380
oh god our water bill yeah the ziplock bags though

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i don't think you quite understand in my business

00:19:12.700 --> 00:19:16.099
i need so many because I have to separate fibers.

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And on top of separating fibers, I have to, before

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it's like officially assessed, I'm separating

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people's collections so that, you know, nobody

00:19:23.720 --> 00:19:27.880
gets mixed up. And it's, there's, and I, do I

00:19:27.880 --> 00:19:30.059
like using that much plastic? No, but it's a

00:19:30.059 --> 00:19:32.240
cleanliness thing. Like if somebody is compromised,

00:19:32.440 --> 00:19:34.700
I don't want it to compromise all the other fibers

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that I've got going on. Right. So I look at it

00:19:37.759 --> 00:19:39.880
as a health kind of like, I'm just trying to

00:19:39.880 --> 00:19:44.410
keep things clean. But. I was like, OK, I need

00:19:44.410 --> 00:19:48.349
to go get more gallon Ziplocs. Right. And I,

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you know, man, I was like, where do I buy these

00:19:52.230 --> 00:19:54.869
things? And then it's like I'm and then I'm sitting

00:19:54.869 --> 00:19:57.490
there going, I'm pricing Ziploc bags like I don't

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I didn't used to. I didn't used to because it

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was like relatively the same. It was relative

00:20:01.849 --> 00:20:04.779
like it was maybe. 50 cents difference. But now

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it's like, okay, like if I go over here, it's

00:20:07.119 --> 00:20:09.599
going to be, you know, like this much and I'll

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save this much off the top when I get this many.

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And it's, yeah. I'm definitely being a lot more

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conscientious. I can't say that word. Conscientious.

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That. the smaller thing like i know i was always

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about the bigger things but now it's like okay

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the electricity went up like 200 bucks so now

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i have to like cut from somewhere where am i

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going to cut so that i don't have to like necessarily

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raise prices or like or which i absolutely never

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want to do is reduce the amount of valuation

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i give when i'm paying out to people um so far

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my you know the method works but like If I can't

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get to a point where me, like, you know, I have

00:20:51.890 --> 00:20:54.289
a formula showing me how much it costs me to

00:20:54.289 --> 00:20:56.930
get this skein up to market. And when that exceeds

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what I'm making off of it, it's, you know what

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I mean? It's not going to end up being worth

00:21:01.630 --> 00:21:03.849
it. And I think a lot of people are making a

00:21:03.849 --> 00:21:05.769
lot of hard choices and we're seeing the results

00:21:05.769 --> 00:21:09.430
of that. We're seeing it on social media as different

00:21:09.430 --> 00:21:12.910
companies are either taking hiatuses or closing

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or changing their business models because the

00:21:15.630 --> 00:21:20.460
market is unstable. I had some collab shut down

00:21:20.460 --> 00:21:23.720
on me that I had from influencer marketing that

00:21:23.720 --> 00:21:26.539
I don't do like I don't do it like that's not

00:21:26.539 --> 00:21:28.779
my main source of income, but it was a nice side

00:21:28.779 --> 00:21:31.859
cash, right? No, I got like probably three of

00:21:31.859 --> 00:21:35.420
the ones that I was dealing with paused our campaigns

00:21:35.420 --> 00:21:38.099
because they don't not that they don't like me.

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They just can't afford to pay out influencers

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right now, you know, like it's affecting and

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then like, you know, you see these little changes

00:21:45.019 --> 00:21:47.819
here and there and. You know, if you don't have,

00:21:48.019 --> 00:21:51.640
like I said, if you were already skirting the

00:21:51.640 --> 00:21:54.720
line of being profitable, like it can really

00:21:54.720 --> 00:21:57.940
get you to a point where you're shutting down.

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And that sucks. That really sucks. Yeah, it is

00:22:01.160 --> 00:22:05.180
hard. It's really hard. Also, you know, in general.

00:22:05.950 --> 00:22:09.970
uh besides besides my wallet you know my uh general

00:22:09.970 --> 00:22:12.029
well -being well -being is great i'm probably

00:22:12.029 --> 00:22:14.690
going to be on 18 lists but other than that you

00:22:14.690 --> 00:22:18.730
know life's grand i fit i check a lot of boxes

00:22:18.730 --> 00:22:21.329
folks and i don't care about talking about it

00:22:21.329 --> 00:22:23.450
because i already know that i'm on 20 lists so

00:22:23.450 --> 00:22:27.130
it's okay i love how the number just like exponentially

00:22:27.130 --> 00:22:30.630
grows every time every minute a number yeah every

00:22:30.630 --> 00:22:33.450
every minute that we talk um there's another

00:22:33.450 --> 00:22:36.339
list being generated and it's most likely something

00:22:36.339 --> 00:22:39.039
about being like some kind of different and i

00:22:39.039 --> 00:22:46.839
fit right in i mean it's like okay i mean i feel

00:22:46.839 --> 00:22:48.720
like this is not how you want to find your people

00:22:48.720 --> 00:22:52.960
no not really um but you know if you want to

00:22:52.960 --> 00:22:57.500
hey Join the club, baby. But I've seen it even

00:22:57.500 --> 00:23:00.619
with like, you know, doing like different outside

00:23:00.619 --> 00:23:03.759
of like fiber stuff. I work with NAMI and we

00:23:03.759 --> 00:23:07.519
do and I do presentations in your own voice to

00:23:07.519 --> 00:23:09.619
like talk about in our own voice to talk about

00:23:09.619 --> 00:23:12.779
like what people with mental health challenges

00:23:12.779 --> 00:23:17.930
deal with. Just, like, without revealing any

00:23:17.930 --> 00:23:20.910
kind of privacy, but we had, like, probably a

00:23:20.910 --> 00:23:24.569
dozen or so people doing it, and it is a quarter

00:23:24.569 --> 00:23:27.809
or maybe even half of what we were doing because

00:23:27.809 --> 00:23:31.109
people dropped. Yeah. Yeah. That's what happens.

00:23:31.450 --> 00:23:33.809
I think you're going to see a lot of that in

00:23:33.809 --> 00:23:38.829
the next few years of people who are afraid or,

00:23:38.869 --> 00:23:45.490
yeah. Oh, definitely. Or tenuous positions. Right.

00:23:45.509 --> 00:23:49.990
Yeah. Yeah, you're going to see people pulling

00:23:49.990 --> 00:23:54.009
back or. Which is unfortunate. It is. All the

00:23:54.009 --> 00:23:56.390
algorithms are changing, too, on that front,

00:23:56.470 --> 00:23:58.589
too. It's kind of getting harder. You're seeing

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more, like, more things mentioned, more things.

00:24:01.440 --> 00:24:04.779
getting kind of like falling off of the algorithms

00:24:04.779 --> 00:24:07.380
like i because i notice a bunch of people i follow

00:24:07.380 --> 00:24:11.420
um a lot of their content doesn't show up on

00:24:11.420 --> 00:24:13.859
any of like my for use or anything like that

00:24:13.859 --> 00:24:16.339
whatever like on my instagram feed on anything

00:24:16.339 --> 00:24:18.279
like that i kind of have to go onto their page

00:24:18.279 --> 00:24:21.799
and find it and it's like they're kind of being

00:24:21.799 --> 00:24:24.420
pushed off to the side that or they're using

00:24:24.420 --> 00:24:27.279
less tags to keep themselves kind of out and

00:24:27.279 --> 00:24:29.160
i think you're gonna see a bit more of that as

00:24:29.160 --> 00:24:32.400
well so if you haven't seen stuff from your content

00:24:32.400 --> 00:24:34.400
creator for a while maybe check their page because

00:24:34.400 --> 00:24:37.200
they might actually be posting yeah i can understand

00:24:37.200 --> 00:24:40.490
posting less so I think my knee jerk reaction

00:24:40.490 --> 00:24:42.849
when everything happened was like, I need to

00:24:42.849 --> 00:24:45.190
delete everything and I need to like protect

00:24:45.190 --> 00:24:47.809
myself and my family. And I don't think there's

00:24:47.809 --> 00:24:49.690
anything wrong with having that as a knee jerk

00:24:49.690 --> 00:24:53.549
reaction. You know, all of us here identify as

00:24:53.549 --> 00:24:56.109
queer. All of us are some kind of neurodiverse.

00:24:56.210 --> 00:24:59.589
So I don't think like we want to necessarily

00:24:59.589 --> 00:25:04.299
like, you know, I think it's hard to like. to

00:25:04.299 --> 00:25:07.220
sit here and just be like oh it'll be fine because

00:25:07.220 --> 00:25:10.720
like we're here guys we're here and we have we

00:25:10.720 --> 00:25:13.160
have lovely things going on that are making that

00:25:13.160 --> 00:25:16.380
um more and more difficult to be in those categories

00:25:16.380 --> 00:25:21.000
but um i just think um in my boat anyway i went

00:25:21.000 --> 00:25:23.599
from knee -jerk reaction of i i don't want to

00:25:23.599 --> 00:25:26.359
you know i want to be as quiet as possible to

00:25:26.359 --> 00:25:29.480
i don't want to be quiet anymore i was very much

00:25:29.480 --> 00:25:33.269
on the quiet boat i was and i But, you know,

00:25:33.309 --> 00:25:40.230
I saw I was seeing some folks that are less privileged

00:25:40.230 --> 00:25:42.569
than I am. And I say that in a sense of like

00:25:42.569 --> 00:25:46.950
I'm a white woman and I present in a heterosexual

00:25:46.950 --> 00:25:49.910
relationship. And there are certain privileges

00:25:49.910 --> 00:25:52.549
that come with that. And I was seeing people

00:25:52.549 --> 00:25:55.710
not in that position who were still speaking

00:25:55.710 --> 00:25:59.170
out. And I thought to myself, well, if I'm not

00:25:59.170 --> 00:26:01.970
speaking out. even though i feel like i could

00:26:01.970 --> 00:26:04.390
be probably in a better position or better protected

00:26:04.390 --> 00:26:08.009
i'm only just opening up people in less of a

00:26:08.009 --> 00:26:11.809
position to be more ostracized and targeted so

00:26:11.809 --> 00:26:17.329
no come on come on down i'm available to this

00:26:17.329 --> 00:26:23.680
but like i just don't i don't yeah i'm it's It's

00:26:23.680 --> 00:26:26.660
crap, guys. It's crap. The amount of stuff that

00:26:26.660 --> 00:26:28.539
I'm doing in the background to make sure that

00:26:28.539 --> 00:26:32.019
I feel safe or that my family feels safe is ridiculous.

00:26:33.539 --> 00:26:35.460
Steps that I never thought I would need to take.

00:26:37.420 --> 00:26:41.220
Things that I never thought about because I had,

00:26:41.220 --> 00:26:44.599
you know, this quote unquote safety of like,

00:26:44.799 --> 00:26:47.460
oh, we live in a country that respects laws and

00:26:47.460 --> 00:26:53.450
stuff. I guess we don't do that anymore. We used

00:26:53.450 --> 00:26:57.819
to. We used to. But yeah, I just don't. And this

00:26:57.819 --> 00:27:00.480
is and it might sound political to you, but like

00:27:00.480 --> 00:27:04.299
it's there's no there's no politics when we're

00:27:04.299 --> 00:27:07.400
talking about like just being a person. I don't

00:27:07.400 --> 00:27:14.279
give a hoot. I don't give a hoot about what quote

00:27:14.279 --> 00:27:16.400
unquote side you're on. But I think if everyone

00:27:16.400 --> 00:27:18.579
realizes there's no more sides anymore, we just

00:27:18.579 --> 00:27:21.039
need to like we need to all come together as

00:27:21.039 --> 00:27:23.599
like a community. And we all need to support

00:27:23.599 --> 00:27:26.839
each other because I'll tell you what. People

00:27:26.839 --> 00:27:31.240
are stressed. Yeah. And I think being quiet stressed

00:27:31.240 --> 00:27:34.920
is the worst kind of stress. Oh, I agree with

00:27:34.920 --> 00:27:39.500
that 100%. It is. So it's the worst. It doesn't

00:27:39.500 --> 00:27:43.160
do anything for you. Your stress is that stress

00:27:43.160 --> 00:27:45.359
hormone goes through your body. The cortisol

00:27:45.359 --> 00:27:46.980
just goes through your body and destroys you

00:27:46.980 --> 00:27:49.380
in more ways than one. Is there an easy way to

00:27:49.380 --> 00:27:51.920
make it go away? No, not unless drastic things

00:27:51.920 --> 00:27:56.579
happen. But I think, you know. I don't know.

00:27:56.640 --> 00:27:58.720
I'm talking a lot. I just don't. I've been so

00:27:58.720 --> 00:28:02.720
frustrated just feeling like I'm, you know, initially

00:28:02.720 --> 00:28:04.779
in the beginning when everything started to happen

00:28:04.779 --> 00:28:07.880
after this election, just like, OK, well, you

00:28:07.880 --> 00:28:10.220
know, I got to delete everything off here because

00:28:10.220 --> 00:28:12.779
it identified me in these groups and I got to

00:28:12.779 --> 00:28:15.279
delete this and I have to hide that and I have

00:28:15.279 --> 00:28:20.339
to take this down. And no, nope. I don't want

00:28:20.339 --> 00:28:22.410
to do that anymore. I'm not going to shrink myself

00:28:22.410 --> 00:28:24.390
so everybody else feels comfortable. Well, I

00:28:24.390 --> 00:28:26.470
think, too, there's something to be said for,

00:28:26.529 --> 00:28:29.250
like, I don't know. I've always been pretty vocal

00:28:29.250 --> 00:28:33.269
about my political leanings. I'm a government

00:28:33.269 --> 00:28:35.829
teacher. Like, I keep it out of the classroom,

00:28:35.950 --> 00:28:37.490
like, how I feel personally, although my kids

00:28:37.490 --> 00:28:40.009
can probably guess. But at the same time, like,

00:28:40.150 --> 00:28:42.690
I don't think any of the things that I say are

00:28:42.690 --> 00:28:47.299
super radical. Like, if you're going to be mad

00:28:47.299 --> 00:28:49.759
at me for saying that all people deserve respect,

00:28:49.880 --> 00:28:52.880
all people deserve rights, you know, regardless

00:28:52.880 --> 00:28:58.259
of who they are, their backgrounds, that's on

00:28:58.259 --> 00:29:02.140
you. Like, you can be mad about that and that's

00:29:02.140 --> 00:29:05.559
fine, but I don't personally believe what I'm

00:29:05.559 --> 00:29:08.960
saying is that radical. I don't believe what

00:29:08.960 --> 00:29:15.880
I'm saying is bad. I mean, I don't know. Well,

00:29:15.900 --> 00:29:18.460
we grew up being told to respect everybody else.

00:29:18.700 --> 00:29:23.720
The golden rule. That's out the door now. It's

00:29:23.720 --> 00:29:30.460
a different type of golden rule. I know it sounds

00:29:30.460 --> 00:29:32.039
cliche. I've seen it like a million times on

00:29:32.039 --> 00:29:34.240
every single social media platform, but I'd rather

00:29:34.240 --> 00:29:37.880
be ostracized for who I include than included

00:29:37.880 --> 00:29:41.059
for who I exclude. Part of my job is making sure

00:29:41.059 --> 00:29:43.960
that everybody that walks through my door feels

00:29:43.960 --> 00:29:47.240
included feels accepted feels wanted regardless

00:29:47.240 --> 00:29:50.920
of who they are what they look like how they

00:29:50.920 --> 00:29:54.619
act and i try to do that in all walks of life

00:29:54.619 --> 00:29:57.559
so if someone's gonna be mad at me for that or

00:29:57.559 --> 00:30:00.220
say that i'm being political or i'm being divisive

00:30:00.220 --> 00:30:05.799
i mean okay that's on you like I can't change

00:30:05.799 --> 00:30:07.900
that. How dare you be nice to people? I can't

00:30:07.900 --> 00:30:09.720
change that. Did you just say you want to care

00:30:09.720 --> 00:30:12.859
about everybody? How dare you? That's against

00:30:12.859 --> 00:30:17.259
law B -6 -7. And in the clause, we should hate

00:30:17.259 --> 00:30:19.980
people that don't fit this paradigm exactly.

00:30:20.680 --> 00:30:23.279
No, but you know what I mean. It is. It's like,

00:30:23.400 --> 00:30:26.960
I don't know. I don't find that divisive. No,

00:30:27.079 --> 00:30:29.599
it's not. And that's your, you know, again, it's

00:30:29.599 --> 00:30:32.500
the whole idea of like, you know, we all love

00:30:32.500 --> 00:30:35.220
the idea that we must be inclusive. be kind but

00:30:35.220 --> 00:30:37.339
but then it's like but not to those people but

00:30:37.339 --> 00:30:39.160
not to that person but not put it in practice

00:30:39.160 --> 00:30:43.539
but not that and I agree with with what Drea

00:30:43.539 --> 00:30:46.740
said before like oh we were not raised that way

00:30:46.740 --> 00:30:50.019
like like we babies of the 80s and probably the

00:30:50.019 --> 00:30:52.480
90s and probably beyond we were all taught that

00:30:52.480 --> 00:30:54.359
you know love everybody be nice to everybody

00:30:54.359 --> 00:30:56.839
regardless of who they are but to be to be told

00:30:56.839 --> 00:30:59.519
that and then you know all of a sudden now we're

00:30:59.519 --> 00:31:01.970
adults and it's like hearing from from other

00:31:01.970 --> 00:31:03.769
people well not like that but not those people

00:31:03.769 --> 00:31:07.730
but those people don't count and no you know

00:31:07.730 --> 00:31:13.750
it's no guys i just want to exist like the worst

00:31:13.750 --> 00:31:16.309
part is is like the worst thing i'm ever gonna

00:31:16.309 --> 00:31:20.190
do in my life honestly is you know if i don't

00:31:20.190 --> 00:31:23.250
take my meds is i will not be able to find anything

00:31:23.250 --> 00:31:26.950
i will forget what i was doing about 10 minutes

00:31:26.950 --> 00:31:29.839
ago I'll also probably make a lot of doom piles.

00:31:30.380 --> 00:31:35.059
Also, I already do all those things. Like, long

00:31:35.059 --> 00:31:37.619
story short, it will all not affect anybody else.

00:31:38.140 --> 00:31:40.420
It will probably help the economy because I will

00:31:40.420 --> 00:31:42.420
randomly buy stuff and then forget that I bought

00:31:42.420 --> 00:31:44.700
it and then buy it again. Yeah, it's not going

00:31:44.700 --> 00:31:46.759
to, I guess my point being, it's not going to

00:31:46.759 --> 00:31:48.460
affect anyone else. It's going to make my life

00:31:48.460 --> 00:31:51.099
horrid, but it's not going to affect anybody

00:31:51.099 --> 00:31:54.839
else. Right. But that's a really good point.

00:31:54.980 --> 00:31:57.400
You know? It's not. It's just going to make my

00:31:57.400 --> 00:32:01.680
life suck. Right. You're not going to be making

00:32:01.680 --> 00:32:05.460
other people. things harder for society or government

00:32:05.460 --> 00:32:08.500
on a whole i mean you might upset your job here

00:32:08.500 --> 00:32:10.140
or there if you forget to do something but again

00:32:10.140 --> 00:32:12.299
those are these are personal these are personal

00:32:12.299 --> 00:32:15.160
issues like it's not affecting anybody else like

00:32:15.160 --> 00:32:17.480
that would be my job performance that would be

00:32:17.480 --> 00:32:20.220
you know right it's not affecting society at

00:32:20.220 --> 00:32:25.180
large exactly it is it is right the point is

00:32:25.180 --> 00:32:28.259
i'm not gonna affect you so like why do you care

00:32:28.259 --> 00:32:31.059
i don't think there's a lot there's a lot there

00:32:31.059 --> 00:32:35.809
about you know yeah why do you you know if i

00:32:35.809 --> 00:32:38.269
if i happen to marry patricia instead of patrick

00:32:38.269 --> 00:32:43.190
why do you care why do you care yeah you know

00:32:43.190 --> 00:32:45.269
i'm just saying better health care would take

00:32:45.269 --> 00:32:53.069
care of a lot of this let's not get crazy Listen,

00:32:53.150 --> 00:32:55.150
we're already off our rockers, okay? We've probably

00:32:55.150 --> 00:32:58.230
ended, I think now I'm on 53 lists if we're being

00:32:58.230 --> 00:32:59.950
honest. Tina, are you just doubling it every

00:32:59.950 --> 00:33:01.630
time we bring it up? Yeah, yeah. I feel like

00:33:01.630 --> 00:33:03.630
you are. Next it's going to be 106. You wait.

00:33:04.390 --> 00:33:07.230
Well, so in the vein of - Collecting them like

00:33:07.230 --> 00:33:11.609
Pokemon. I went through a similar, I kind of

00:33:11.609 --> 00:33:13.210
went through like back and forth at the beginning

00:33:13.210 --> 00:33:16.470
of the year because my job is literally to teach

00:33:16.470 --> 00:33:18.990
government. I mean, that's four out of my five

00:33:18.990 --> 00:33:21.230
classes are government classes. That's a list.

00:33:21.390 --> 00:33:24.950
Well, no. And then because it is, you're like,

00:33:25.009 --> 00:33:26.970
I have to teach authentically. Like, I have to

00:33:26.970 --> 00:33:30.670
teach, you know, what is what is truth. That's

00:33:30.670 --> 00:33:34.430
a sub list. But then, you know, the whole like,

00:33:34.509 --> 00:33:37.769
you know, report teachers that are are teaching

00:33:37.769 --> 00:33:39.799
things that shouldn't be taught. And I'm like,

00:33:39.819 --> 00:33:41.680
well, what's the standard of what should and

00:33:41.680 --> 00:33:44.960
shouldn't be taught? And that was really scary.

00:33:45.160 --> 00:33:47.539
I think there is a lot to be said of like, I

00:33:47.539 --> 00:33:50.240
wasn't sure how to handle it. And basically what

00:33:50.240 --> 00:33:52.180
I do at the beginning of every class now is we

00:33:52.180 --> 00:33:53.779
talk about current events. I have the kids bring

00:33:53.779 --> 00:33:57.079
up current events. But I let them kind of draw

00:33:57.079 --> 00:33:59.339
their own conclusions. Like I've always said

00:33:59.339 --> 00:34:00.940
from the start, I'm not here to tell you what

00:34:00.940 --> 00:34:05.519
to think. I'm here to present the facts, the

00:34:05.519 --> 00:34:08.559
material. Or to show you where to get the facts

00:34:08.559 --> 00:34:13.199
and draw your own conclusions. My goal is always

00:34:13.199 --> 00:34:14.960
when kids leave my class at the end of the year

00:34:14.960 --> 00:34:16.780
that they know why they believe the way they

00:34:16.780 --> 00:34:19.519
do. And I'm not here to tell them what that is.

00:34:19.760 --> 00:34:22.579
I just I always tell them my one answer that

00:34:22.579 --> 00:34:24.420
I don't want to hear from you is I don't know.

00:34:24.440 --> 00:34:27.099
That's just how my parents vote. Like there's

00:34:27.099 --> 00:34:28.739
nothing wrong with voting the same way your parents

00:34:28.739 --> 00:34:30.059
vote. Like there's nothing wrong with that at

00:34:30.059 --> 00:34:34.820
all. But I want them to know why. Exactly. And

00:34:34.820 --> 00:34:36.820
I don't care how, you know, which way that is.

00:34:36.880 --> 00:34:40.380
I don't care what your why is. Exactly. But I

00:34:40.380 --> 00:34:42.260
do want you to know your why. And I want you

00:34:42.260 --> 00:34:45.639
to understand that, like, we can't invent facts

00:34:45.639 --> 00:34:49.820
to to suit our story. Like the goal is if you

00:34:49.820 --> 00:34:53.119
can't find facts to back up your stance, you

00:34:53.119 --> 00:34:54.719
should probably start thinking about another

00:34:54.719 --> 00:34:59.880
stance. That's the goal. So and it took me a

00:34:59.880 --> 00:35:03.050
lot of time. And a lot of talking to my colleagues

00:35:03.050 --> 00:35:06.170
to come to that conclusion that like my presenting

00:35:06.170 --> 00:35:08.670
the facts or presenting them with the materials

00:35:08.670 --> 00:35:11.650
to find the facts, I'm not doing anything wrong.

00:35:11.809 --> 00:35:14.590
And if I don't do that, I'm doing a bigger disservice

00:35:14.590 --> 00:35:17.289
to them in the long run. That I need to teach

00:35:17.289 --> 00:35:21.190
them how to find good evidence and to encourage

00:35:21.190 --> 00:35:22.909
them. Teaching critical thinking skills. Exactly.

00:35:23.070 --> 00:35:25.429
And encourage them that if you can't find the

00:35:25.429 --> 00:35:28.050
evidence, then that means you got to find a new

00:35:28.050 --> 00:35:31.179
hypothesis. Stop it. Stop putting me on lists.

00:35:31.219 --> 00:35:33.019
You just said that you were critical thinking.

00:35:33.199 --> 00:35:35.340
I had to put you on, there's a list for that.

00:35:35.480 --> 00:35:39.340
I didn't say I was doing it. That's the name

00:35:39.340 --> 00:35:41.380
of the episode. There's a list for that. There's

00:35:41.380 --> 00:35:45.019
a list for that. There's a list for that. Or

00:35:45.019 --> 00:35:49.599
a sub list. There's a list for that. But yeah,

00:35:49.699 --> 00:35:52.699
and that's the thing. It's like, okay, I'm not

00:35:52.699 --> 00:35:54.320
going to lie. I've had a lot of sleepless nights.

00:35:54.420 --> 00:35:56.420
I had a complete crash out last week, as the

00:35:56.420 --> 00:35:58.840
kids say. I cannot make things true that are

00:35:58.840 --> 00:36:01.039
not true. But in the vein of Drea with her bread,

00:36:01.199 --> 00:36:03.980
I've been learning Italian. That's been my hobby.

00:36:04.380 --> 00:36:06.980
That's my hobby right now. Well, I found out

00:36:06.980 --> 00:36:18.269
two months ago. Ciao, come sta? Nice. Did that

00:36:18.269 --> 00:36:21.670
get added to your personal list? Absolutely.

00:36:22.230 --> 00:36:25.849
I have been learning Spanish. Oh, are you? I

00:36:25.849 --> 00:36:27.610
thought you were doing German. Senior Greg. I

00:36:27.610 --> 00:36:30.250
was learning German for a little bit, but that

00:36:30.250 --> 00:36:32.909
was very hard. German is tough. I am learning

00:36:32.909 --> 00:36:37.170
Spanish through Senior Greg on Instagram. Oh,

00:36:37.170 --> 00:36:40.050
beautiful. Let me tell you, Senior Greg is a

00:36:40.050 --> 00:36:44.989
blue puppet. He teaches you Spanish phrases every

00:36:44.989 --> 00:36:47.880
single day. Magical. And you know what? A plus.

00:36:48.039 --> 00:36:49.739
I thought you didn't like puppets. Do you know

00:36:49.739 --> 00:36:54.219
what? This one is like, what a banger. It is.

00:36:54.920 --> 00:36:58.500
The puppets are a banger. You know what? We're

00:36:58.500 --> 00:37:00.139
going to leave that right there. We're not. We're

00:37:00.139 --> 00:37:04.559
not. No, no, no. So he says the phrase in Spanish

00:37:04.559 --> 00:37:07.739
and then he says it again. But he has this ruler

00:37:07.739 --> 00:37:11.599
in his hand and he slaps each word as he says

00:37:11.599 --> 00:37:15.820
it. It's very forceful. It's hilarious. And it

00:37:15.820 --> 00:37:19.639
helps. like keep things in my head beautiful

00:37:19.639 --> 00:37:24.739
I like to go up to Frank and very aggressively

00:37:24.739 --> 00:37:32.059
say besame which means kiss me yes I know I do

00:37:32.059 --> 00:37:35.610
remember I did make it to Spanish five So poorly.

00:37:35.630 --> 00:37:38.269
So you're learning Spanish with a German accent.

00:37:38.369 --> 00:37:42.250
Got it. I am learning aggressive Spanish. Well,

00:37:42.349 --> 00:37:44.730
since you've all been learning different languages

00:37:44.730 --> 00:37:47.130
that are not English, you're all in lists with

00:37:47.130 --> 00:37:51.369
me. So congratulations. Amazing. Frank's mom

00:37:51.369 --> 00:37:53.469
thinks it's hilarious. I bet she does. She does.

00:37:53.510 --> 00:37:55.570
It is hilarious. She's like, you know more Spanish

00:37:55.570 --> 00:38:01.269
than Frankie does. To be fair, Patrick probably

00:38:01.269 --> 00:38:03.869
is more comfortable speaking Portuguese than

00:38:03.869 --> 00:38:05.889
I am. oh there you go he will look at me and

00:38:05.889 --> 00:38:07.829
go what did they say and then i'll be like and

00:38:07.829 --> 00:38:15.429
he'll be like oh okay hola he won't have half

00:38:15.429 --> 00:38:17.409
the words but he will look at me as a translator

00:38:17.409 --> 00:38:19.530
just to tell him what they meant so that he could

00:38:19.530 --> 00:38:22.909
try to say something back I've been using Coffee

00:38:22.909 --> 00:38:25.710
Break Italian, which is a it's a podcast. And

00:38:25.710 --> 00:38:27.250
I listen to them and they're very good about

00:38:27.250 --> 00:38:29.070
not only just repeating because I hate Duolingo

00:38:29.070 --> 00:38:31.230
has been pissing me off because they don't explain

00:38:31.230 --> 00:38:32.889
why I'm wrong. They're just like, you're wrong.

00:38:33.789 --> 00:38:36.010
And it took me weeks to figure things out that

00:38:36.010 --> 00:38:37.610
on Coffee Break Italian, they're just like, oh,

00:38:37.710 --> 00:38:40.170
you use a for this and in for this. And I'm like,

00:38:40.190 --> 00:38:42.809
that makes so much more sense. But yeah, I found

00:38:42.809 --> 00:38:45.369
out a month ago that I qualified for Italian

00:38:45.369 --> 00:38:47.469
citizenship. But now I don't anymore because

00:38:47.469 --> 00:38:51.780
the entire Italian government is. changing stuff

00:38:51.780 --> 00:38:55.340
working that out so um i no longer qualify it

00:38:55.340 --> 00:38:57.539
all happened in the course of a week it literally

00:38:57.539 --> 00:38:59.800
happened in the course of a week um congratulations

00:38:59.800 --> 00:39:02.719
i know i was really excited like i even i even

00:39:02.719 --> 00:39:05.400
was like getting my papers ready to to file and

00:39:05.400 --> 00:39:07.099
everything and then they're like just kidding

00:39:07.099 --> 00:39:09.900
new laws um that are being challenged so we'll

00:39:09.900 --> 00:39:12.170
see if that actually goes through or not but

00:39:12.170 --> 00:39:13.969
I was like you know what I'm really enjoying

00:39:13.969 --> 00:39:16.030
learning Italian so I'm gonna I'm gonna keep

00:39:16.030 --> 00:39:18.449
doing that it's fun I'm having a good time it

00:39:18.449 --> 00:39:20.789
connects you to your family it really does I

00:39:20.789 --> 00:39:23.130
found out a lot of things about my extended family

00:39:23.130 --> 00:39:26.269
that I didn't know and it was exciting so I'm

00:39:26.269 --> 00:39:27.730
having a good time and I'm like you know what

00:39:27.730 --> 00:39:30.250
if nothing else comes of this um I'm learning

00:39:30.250 --> 00:39:32.510
Italian I'm having a good time doing it so well

00:39:32.510 --> 00:39:36.849
I just sent you in our chat the link to El Senor

00:39:36.849 --> 00:39:39.929
Greg oh thank god I had his name wrong before.

00:39:40.010 --> 00:39:42.469
It is El Senor Greg. Well, of course. What did

00:39:42.469 --> 00:39:44.630
you say it was, Mr. Greg? It was just Senor Greg.

00:39:44.809 --> 00:39:48.710
Why is El Senor Greg? The Mr. Greg. The Mr. Greg.

00:39:48.710 --> 00:39:51.250
Listen, there can be only one. There can be only

00:39:51.250 --> 00:39:53.550
one puppet that teaches you Spanish. Listen,

00:39:53.710 --> 00:39:56.130
in Portuguese, we leave off half the words, so

00:39:56.130 --> 00:39:57.949
I don't understand why there's more words when

00:39:57.949 --> 00:40:01.309
you could just say Senor Greg. If you're Portuguese,

00:40:03.429 --> 00:40:06.309
you understood that. If you too would like to

00:40:06.309 --> 00:40:09.949
learn Spanish from El Senor Greg, it will be

00:40:09.949 --> 00:40:13.710
on the blog. Oh my God. It is a puppet. It is

00:40:13.710 --> 00:40:17.429
a puppet. I told you. Oh my God. See, I just

00:40:17.429 --> 00:40:21.239
watch horror Let's Plays. And they're really

00:40:21.239 --> 00:40:24.960
fun. And then, because I don't have time to play

00:40:24.960 --> 00:40:27.739
games, but, you know, I live vicariously through

00:40:27.739 --> 00:40:29.679
watching them happen while I do laundry and stuff.

00:40:29.900 --> 00:40:32.500
And so I found out a whole bunch of dude bros

00:40:32.500 --> 00:40:34.679
really hated this new game called South of Midnight.

00:40:34.739 --> 00:40:36.059
So I was like, well, I got to check that out

00:40:36.059 --> 00:40:38.260
because it's probably awesome. And it is awesome.

00:40:38.579 --> 00:40:40.800
It's beautiful. I need to download the music

00:40:40.800 --> 00:40:46.340
because it's fantastic. And so, yeah, so I'm

00:40:46.340 --> 00:40:49.789
on. I don't know the chapter with the giant alligator

00:40:49.789 --> 00:40:52.030
right now. The guy is playing. Oh, that chapter.

00:40:52.510 --> 00:40:55.030
Yeah. There's a giant alligator. No, it's really,

00:40:55.050 --> 00:40:56.010
it's like about Southern. Is that going to get

00:40:56.010 --> 00:40:58.409
her on a list? Probably because people hate it

00:40:58.409 --> 00:41:00.730
because the lead character is a black woman and

00:41:00.730 --> 00:41:04.269
she's amazing. And it's about Southern folk tales.

00:41:04.550 --> 00:41:07.369
And I'm reporting you to the list right now.

00:41:07.449 --> 00:41:10.590
Just to confirm, you enjoy this? I do enjoy this.

00:41:10.590 --> 00:41:13.110
List it up. No, it's amazing. No, the music is

00:41:13.110 --> 00:41:14.789
great. I mean, I was going to say they were going

00:41:14.789 --> 00:41:16.429
to be on a list anyway, because I said alligator

00:41:16.429 --> 00:41:19.250
instead of crocodile. folk tales are amazing

00:41:19.250 --> 00:41:22.289
and dude bros don't like it it actually made

00:41:22.289 --> 00:41:25.190
me look up more of these folk tales because I

00:41:25.190 --> 00:41:27.429
knew about some of them but not all of them and

00:41:27.429 --> 00:41:30.250
they did a spin on them obviously for the game

00:41:30.250 --> 00:41:33.389
but they are really cool and so I'm enjoying

00:41:33.389 --> 00:41:36.050
that and I'm watching that now find your joy

00:41:36.050 --> 00:41:38.630
i i actually am considering because it looks

00:41:38.630 --> 00:41:41.010
like um they have a story mode which is cool

00:41:41.010 --> 00:41:42.969
because i definitely have no time to be doing

00:41:42.969 --> 00:41:46.289
hard modes on things but um i i am considering

00:41:46.289 --> 00:41:49.250
actually because you can get it on pc because

00:41:49.250 --> 00:41:51.550
i think it was mainly for xbox but which i do

00:41:51.550 --> 00:41:54.190
not have but i do have a pc so i'm like maybe

00:41:54.190 --> 00:41:56.710
when i have some time i will buy this game because

00:41:56.710 --> 00:41:59.789
it looks cool and if there's a story mode i might

00:41:59.789 --> 00:42:02.480
actually be able to get through it Frank is playing

00:42:02.480 --> 00:42:06.179
God of War on Story Mode. See, look. What I want

00:42:06.179 --> 00:42:09.519
to say is there's no neurodiversity at this table.

00:42:09.579 --> 00:42:12.139
Not a single person here. We are all neurotypical.

00:42:12.260 --> 00:42:16.400
We did not do anything. Nobody went off trail

00:42:16.400 --> 00:42:19.659
once, including myself. I love hiking, though.

00:42:19.780 --> 00:42:22.820
I went off trail like twice last weekend. I did.

00:42:22.820 --> 00:42:25.599
I went off trail like 90 times. I'm just laughing

00:42:25.599 --> 00:42:28.219
because we do all these side quests and then

00:42:28.219 --> 00:42:31.659
we get back to it. I climbed a rock. As I said.

00:42:31.679 --> 00:42:33.980
Jess did. Jess did go hiking and she climbed

00:42:33.980 --> 00:42:36.940
something and we were all very proud. Yeah. I

00:42:36.940 --> 00:42:39.579
only fell down once. Okay, but the size of the

00:42:39.579 --> 00:42:41.760
rock? Because that depends on the rock list.

00:42:41.880 --> 00:42:46.659
My ankle said no. Comparative to Dwayne the Rock

00:42:46.659 --> 00:42:49.219
Johnson, how big was the rock you climbed? Wait,

00:42:49.219 --> 00:42:54.010
what? It was a bunch of little rocks that made

00:42:54.010 --> 00:42:56.429
up like a bigger rock than Dwayne the Rock Johnson.

00:42:56.690 --> 00:42:59.269
I like that. Yeah. It had a good view. It did

00:42:59.269 --> 00:43:00.710
have a good view. It sounds like it had a good

00:43:00.710 --> 00:43:02.690
vibe too. Yeah. That was pretty good. It was

00:43:02.690 --> 00:43:06.389
nice. Okay. Nope. We're going to, we're going

00:43:06.389 --> 00:43:08.550
to just, we're going to put that down. I just

00:43:08.550 --> 00:43:10.289
wanted to see. Nope. We're just going to let

00:43:10.289 --> 00:43:12.289
that one sit. I wanted to see. We're going to

00:43:12.289 --> 00:43:16.530
let that one cook. Nope. You're going to, you're

00:43:16.530 --> 00:43:18.869
going to let that one cook. A hundred percent.

00:43:19.579 --> 00:43:24.380
Well, now that we're on 347 lists. Man, you like,

00:43:24.500 --> 00:43:29.820
wow. We're going to end at 690 something. Yeah,

00:43:29.860 --> 00:43:35.920
in the last two microseconds. Oh, God. Is this

00:43:35.920 --> 00:43:38.579
our combined list? Wait a second. Maybe that

00:43:38.579 --> 00:43:42.199
is actually the best point of action is to make

00:43:42.199 --> 00:43:44.460
so many lists that they can't keep up with all

00:43:44.460 --> 00:43:48.130
the lists. It'll blow up the computer. We got

00:43:48.130 --> 00:43:51.150
to make more lists, but like really obnoxious

00:43:51.150 --> 00:43:53.150
lists. Like it'll be like the garden venture

00:43:53.150 --> 00:43:58.329
brothers, you know, the one that they short circuit

00:43:58.329 --> 00:44:01.489
by saying weird stuff. Oh yeah. Because he's

00:44:01.489 --> 00:44:03.690
a, he's a robot and he's only like programmed

00:44:03.690 --> 00:44:05.869
to say so many things. So if you start saying

00:44:05.869 --> 00:44:08.750
gibberish, it just falls apart. Yeah. Yeah. Pretty

00:44:08.750 --> 00:44:12.670
much. Keep it weird folks. Keep it weird. Is

00:44:12.670 --> 00:44:15.860
this a yarn podcast? Yeah. Can we go back to

00:44:15.860 --> 00:44:18.760
tariffs? No, I don't want to go back to tariffs.

00:44:19.179 --> 00:44:21.739
That was enough economics for one day. No, but

00:44:21.739 --> 00:44:24.159
keep being your weird, yarny selves. Yeah. Be

00:44:24.159 --> 00:44:25.980
your weird, yarny selves. Do what makes you happy.

00:44:26.059 --> 00:44:27.980
If it's not yarn right now, that's cool. And

00:44:27.980 --> 00:44:31.019
if you don't feel like you're in a safe predicament

00:44:31.019 --> 00:44:33.659
right now, just know that we're here to be a

00:44:33.659 --> 00:44:36.300
little safe haven. We are here for you in these

00:44:36.300 --> 00:44:39.360
trying times. Right here. Right here. Right here

00:44:39.360 --> 00:44:42.860
in our little stash. No, that sounds druggy.

00:44:45.030 --> 00:44:49.070
Oh my God. You are going to have to take a hatchet

00:44:49.070 --> 00:44:53.949
to this episode. I honestly might do a voiceover

00:44:53.949 --> 00:44:57.619
that's like. Due to the prolific nature of this

00:44:57.619 --> 00:45:00.840
episode, we had to modify and edit in order to

00:45:00.840 --> 00:45:03.960
protect the identities and the safety of the

00:45:03.960 --> 00:45:07.119
cast members. But it all seemed like a voice

00:45:07.119 --> 00:45:09.639
modifier. You know, like the Law and Order voice?

00:45:11.280 --> 00:45:13.500
These are our stories. These are our stories.

00:45:13.760 --> 00:45:20.179
All right. And that's all we have for this episode.

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00:45:28.920 --> 00:45:32.079
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00:45:32.079 --> 00:45:34.159
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00:45:34.159 --> 00:45:37.059
bunny bag. Yes. And I got the carrot cake. Oh,

00:45:37.079 --> 00:45:39.159
it's so pretty. That looked really good. It is

00:45:39.159 --> 00:45:42.139
so pretty. God, I love carrot cake. It's just,

00:45:42.219 --> 00:45:44.219
it's like a, it's like an orange tonal and a

00:45:44.219 --> 00:45:46.440
green tonal and like a whitish tonal. Love it.

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