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I'm Drea. I'm Meg. I'm Tina. And I'm Jess. And this is Pardon My Stash.

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Welcome to Pardon My Stash, a podcast about crafting within the fiber arts and how awesome it is.

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Oh, thank you Steve. Ghosts.

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Steve's here. Oh, ghosts. Steve's a ghost.

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Before we get into today's topic, which is a banger, what are we working on this week?

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Actually, it's been a little while. What have we been working on while we have been on break?

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Let's start with you, Tina. Over the break, I did lots of things. I ended up rebranding

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Finarina Knitwear to Finarina Designs. I did that mainly because it was odd to put my bags

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and graphic art stuff with knitwear. It didn't make sense. So nothing really changed. It's still

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the same products and patterns and stuff that I'm doing. Just a new name. I just wanted it to be

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more encompassing. I love that. Also, I really, really wanted to change my logo because my logo

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skills sucked like several years ago and I just really wanted to update it. I made the updated

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one. It's got a lot of teal. Yes, I noticed. Teal. I did a lot of yarn saver stuff as well

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and that's been going really good. With that, I also went and they had that bag sale going on

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and my intention was to go in there to buy sweater quantities for four sweaters I have in mind,

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not for right now, but just in general. Bag sale where? At our favorite friend's

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village. They're having their winter sale. Are they? They are. I saw it on the Facebook.

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I'm on their newsletter now so that's how I found out. That'll do it.

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When does that run, Tilly? The eighth. I don't usually go to it every single time,

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but this time I did because I did have four very specific sweaters that I want to make.

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I went and got some sweater quantity stuff and then I grabbed some Malibri Co. because why not?

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I mean. Why not?

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Well, have you started or worked on any projects?

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Over the break, I don't believe. I'm trying to think. I don't think I finished anything over

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the break. And then for my current project, I have today that I've been working on when I've

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been able to work on stuff. It is the Northward Beanie by Tin Can Knits. I'm using sugar maple

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fibers, bulky weight in the colorway sugar maple. I know that's a lot of sugar maple,

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but that's just how it is. The color is like orange with like a little bit of black in it,

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like brownish black. It's a single ply, so there's like not it's a little loose,

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but I kind of like it that way. It looks like fall.

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It is. That's why I got it, because it does look very fally. So that's what I figure in my head.

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I'm not I've tried to approach knitting with what I'm going to do later, not right now,

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because if I say I'm going to do it right now, you're not going to do it. I'm not going to do it.

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So I figure I'm like, oh, this will be a nice beanie to wear in the fall. And if I finish it

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for this winter, fantastic. And if not, then it will be ready for whenever it is.

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I love that for you, Jess. I built a lot of Legos.

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Congratulations. They're awesome. And I started the catnip pullover by Andrea Rangel.

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Rangel, I'm sorry, I'm butchering your last name. It's super cute. It's smug cats.

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It's pretty good. And they're being adorable. And I'm using I'm using the critical hit dies

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yarn sorcerer because cashmere and displacer and embers. Did you finish anything while we've been

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on break? No, no. Lots of Legos. Well, I mean, I count Legos. You also finished your 30s.

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I did. I am now into the 40s of my life. Congratulations. Why, thank you.

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I've entered the 40s. It is thus far been disappointing. But that's okay. Well,

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I swear I'd like consider the time the minute you turn 40s, everything starts to break. I don't

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know why. Didn't you like sprain your finger like two days after? No, I actually sprained it like

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two weeks before and it was just worse by two days after. So I finally was told to go to the

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darn doctor and I did. But then I didn't have to pay for the brace because insurance covered it.

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So that was nice. Less do you think she's old lady level grinding, I had to make the appointment for

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her. Hey, she's still a child. But I drove to it alone. I'm proud of you. Wow. Meg? I've honestly

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been sitting here this entire time and I'm trying to think about what I did in the last like,

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six weeks and I'm struggling to think of what I did. You did some embroidery. I did. I did pick

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up embroidery as a new craft. I did a, Jess gave me a like an introductory kit from Clever Poppy

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where you've learned, I think it was like nine different types of stitches. And I finished that

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in like three days. Did you like it? I loved it. I actually bought two more kits because they had a

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post Christmas sale and I'm working on another one right now. I'm about halfway done with it.

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And I am having a lot of fun with it. I'm not like, I tried to start to do some like on my own

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without like a kit and I don't think I'm quite there yet, but I am really enjoying it. I did a

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lot of walking over winter break. I hit my, my hike goal and step goal for the year. So that felt

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really good. In January? No, in, in for December. Like I'm talking back to Christmas. Like, oh,

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oh yeah. No, I had, I had a mileage goal and I had a hike goal and I hit them both the last

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week of December. So I was cutting it kind of close. I mean, you could have just let me think

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that you made your, like all your goals in January. I was hella impressed. In, in keeping with that,

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I had a, I had a rough start to the, to the year with my foot was really bothering me. And one of,

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one of my resolutions for the year, my only resolution for this year was I was going to be

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kinder to myself and I was going to try to make a decisions that were healthier for me. And I,

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I made my mileage goal was going to be the exact same goal as last year. And after like three days

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into the new year, when I realized my foot was in a lot of pain and I was giving myself a lot of,

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a lot of grief for not keeping up with the mileage count every day that I was going to need to do to

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hit that goal. I cried a little bit like a big kid and I readjusted my mileage goal. And I said,

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you know what, if I hit this and my foot feels better, I'll extend it again, but I'm going to be

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smart. I've actually the last couple of weeks, I've taken a little bit slow and my foot is

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actually feeling a lot better for the first time in months, which is, which is great. Yeah.

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I, I, I think I really needed to do that because I was so hell bent on like hitting that goal that

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I pushed myself probably more than I should have last year, but I think two weeks has been really

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good for me. So learned a lesson there. And work is work. We're halfway through the year,

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which is fantastic. And I'm really happy about that. And I can't wait to get to summer, but

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anyway, um, I tore out everything that I was working on the last week of, um, of winter break.

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Did it feel good? It didn't. And it was, I tore out both projects because they both had mistakes

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that I could not fix without either a ton of work or without ripping everything back to the point

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where I might as well start again. And I said, forget it. Um, and that was when I did the

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embroidery for awhile. Um, and right at the year was beginning, I pulled out a sweater that, uh,

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it actually lets me do both. It's a standard, your basic standard top down, uh, decay knit sweater.

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But it has embroidery on it. So I'm looking forward to that. Is that what you're working on?

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No, it's called Malvara Rosa by candy key of expression fiber arts. Um, it's again,

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it's just a basic sweater, but then there's, um, flower embroidery around the yolk, um, that you

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do when you're done with it. So I'm looking forward to that. I'm knitting it out of yarn that I, uh,

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had just die for about three projects ago. Um, and it's a critical hit dies warlock in the colorway

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Vishka. So it is, it's an, it's not nice. It's soft. Well, I'm hoping it takes, but we all know

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from past years, anything I start before may is a crap shoot. So we'll see. What about you?

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I have started and finished up an entire project. See that's impressive. I am very excited for me.

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I would like to thank me for believing in me, sticking with it, start to finish. I'm very

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excited. This is, um, my coworker is about to have, uh, her second baby and I knit her a bunch of like

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little things. I haven't finished making all of the little things, but I shouldn't say finish, but

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I will. I still got like two weeks before she leaves three weeks before baby gets here. So I

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got plenty of time. It's hats. I'm going to make hats. Yeah, there you go. Yes. Um, but the project

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that I started and finished is the lion brand Martha Stewart's crafts diagonal eyelet baby blanket.

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You knit it from like corner to corner, which I loved because it goes by really fast and it gets

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bigger and then it gets smaller. It gets bigger and then it gets smaller. Like I could not ask for a

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better project. Um, I used loops and threads, snuggly wuggly. Oh, and it's in soft lilac. It is,

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it's a very pretty purple. It is a very pretty purple. I love it. She's having a little girl.

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I'm very happy for me and I'm very happy for her, but I'm very happy for me because I did this so

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fast. That is really fast. As always, thank you so much to Jimmy beans wool at jimmybeanswool.com

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for being our sponsor. And if you're interested in more pardon my stash stuff, check out pardon

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my stash.com. We got a blog where you can check out our current projects, patterns and yarns and more.

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All right. I got the banger. Okay. We're going to have a lot of fun today.

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Okay. You're actually going to have a lot. No, don't be scared. It's a lot of fun. We are going

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to play a fun game. It's called this or that you already know the rules. I'm not even going to explain

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it. I hope there are more rules than rules are this or that. Okay. Yeah. It's like the time that

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you said, have you ever looked up the lyrics to tequila? I'm sure two seconds. I went, wait,

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there's rules to this or that? Cause I thought, okay, maybe we do need rules. I thought it was

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just like, I thought it was just in the title guy. Oh my God. I'm dead. All right. Just for

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clarification, I'm going to give you two different things. You're going to pick this. You're going to

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pick that. Okay. Whichever one you prefer. And then tell me why. Okay. Sounds good. Yeah. I got a whole

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bunch. You ready? Yeah. Listen to that. Knit or pearl knit. Why? I don't know. I just comfort. I

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just prefer to knit over pearl. Dana pearl. Why? Easier in Portuguese style knitting. That is fair.

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Jess knit. Why? Cause I like color work and knitting is easier in color work. That is fair.

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There's an echo in here. What about you? Knit. And it's mostly because when I am knitting in the round,

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I can just go. Yeah. I can just let her rip. Yep. No, I'm with you there. I have to think a little

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bit more when I, when I have to pearl. So yeah, I much prefer knitting. Stockinette or garter.

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Oh, stockinette. Why? I don't like the way garter looks. I'm so sorry. No, personally, not on other

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people's stuff. Just like when I'm making stuff, I like the way stockinette looks over garter.

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Okay. That's fair. I'm going to go with garter. Um, I like how squishy it is. It has a really nice

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squish. Um, and, and I'm also not a huge fan of pearling. So just stockinette. Why? Because it

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gets bigger faster. Oh, that's fair. Yeah. Garter kind of collapses in on itself. It does. I am

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still going to go with garter myself though, for basically the same reason. Like I, pearling just

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is not my favorite. It's not mine either. Um, and if I were honest, uh, this baby blanket that I just

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finished is half garter, half stockinette with eyelets. And, um, man garter, those garter sections

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were flying. Oh, they're so good. Yeah. I enjoyed it so much. It's going to get a little harder from

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here on out. Oh, okay. Okay. Moss stitch or seed stitch. Moss stitch alternates every other row.

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Oh no. Seed stitch. Yeah. Um, I'm going to do seed just because I, I, again, I'm going to go by look.

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I like see the way seed stitch looks over moss. I like to have the attention. I don't have the

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attention span of like, I agree with that. I cannot like, at least with seed stitch, it's easy. You

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just look at the one underneath it and you do the opposite. Exactly. No, that's how I, that's exactly

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how I feel. Jess, I hate them both, but too bad you got to pick one. I kinda like the texture of

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moss stitch better because there's a little bit of more space in between. So you get the squish,

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but the soft at the same time. So I do like the look of moss stitch. I will never do it.

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I appreciate you, but no, someone else did it for me. It is not for me. I like looking at it,

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but I, again, I do not have the attention span to figure out where I'm at and what needs to come.

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Next. I don't want to look at that. No, I don't want to think too hard. No, same. I think a lot

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during the day. This is not what I want to think. I know. I just want to like relax and watch TV,

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go and knit. Yeah. No, I'm with you there. Ribbing or brioche. I've never done brioche,

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so I'm going to have to go with the ribbing. Brioche all day, every day. I'm doing ribbing

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right now and I wish it was brioche. So I too actually have never done brioche. I have a couple

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patterns saved that I want to try eventually with it, but I know I hate ribbing and I don't hate

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brioche yet. So I'm going to go with brioche for now and my opinion may change if we do this game

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again. I love the yet. Just throwing it out there. It's got to be qualified. As a disclaimer for

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brioche, it's a pain in the butt to set up, but once you're rolling, you're rolling. I agree.

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And I'm also going to go with brioche for that exact same reason. Ribbing is just terrible the

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whole time. That's fair. There's no break. I'm just going with, I know what I don't like to do and I

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don't yet not like brioche. I also just love how squishy brioche is. It is so squishy. I have made

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so many hats with brioche and man, I need like 10 more. I know. I keep meaning to do projects with

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it and then I get distracted by other ones and it's just still in that stasis loading. Maybe we

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should try to do one project together so we can both decide if we hate it together. That's fair.

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You could always do my high vis. It's a very simple brioche. Very simple brioche. It is. Basket

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weave or Entrelac. I've never done either to be perfectly honest. No? I mean, I know what basket

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weave is. I've never done a pattern that has basket weave and I've definitely never done

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Entrelac. All right. What about checkerboard? I don't think I've ever done that either. No? No.

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I don't think so. I don't think so. I'm trying. I'm racking my brain. I know that I have definitely

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done a scarf with checkerboard. I hated it. Yeah. It seems like the novelty would wear off after

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about two sections. It was real fast. Yeah. Yeah. Just because basket weave and checkerboard and

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all that nonsense is a pain in the butt. I'm going to go with Entrelac. I've never done Entrelac.

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I had to double check because I thought I had done basket weave and I have. You know what project

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was a basket weave? I remember. It was my sparkly blue cravat because I got sick of it after row 15

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or something. Actually, it was longer than that. It was about the length of a forearm. I feel like

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Entrelac looks awesome. I feel like I will run into the same issue. But if I'm going pure looks

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wise, I kind of like the Entrelac diagonal. I think that looks pretty cool. The basket weave,

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I feel like depending on the project, it'll have a place. But the Entrelac to me just looks a little

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cooler. So I would go with that. But going with the, I know if that's all that pattern is, I am

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going to cry. Well, see, I have, I mean, one of the earliest projects that I have in my Ravelry is

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an Entrelac project. Really? It is. I don't want to do that one anymore. Dude, that's from like 2008.

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I know. It's a blanket. Do you still have it? Or did you frog it? No, no, no. No, it's just in my

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Ravelry. I thought you meant you started it. No, no, no, no. I did not start anything. It's been in my

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projects where you're like, yeah, that looks cool. How many times do you do that? Do you add stuff to

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your queue or your favorites and then you look back, you're like, whoa, no, absolutely. I will

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never do that. But as I was coming up with the this or that's for tonight, I did find a different

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pattern on Ravelry and it's a hat that is Entrelac. There you go. And I really want to do it. That

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might not be too bad because you got to think, yeah, it's shorter. It's got the decreases, so

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it'll get smaller at some point. Yeah. And they had the way that it looked like each diagonal,

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like each little square was a different color. Yeah. Yeah. And I loved that. Yeah. It's like

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it looked patchwork. I loved it. So I might consider that. I'm not going to say that I'm

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going to do it because that's fair. I say I'm going to do stuff all the time and then I don't.

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Feather and fan or herringbone. I've never done herringbone, so I'm going to go with feather and

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fan. Did you like it? You know, it's one of those things that I think that I liked it like for an

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edging or something like that. If I had to do like a feather and fan scarf, I think that would do me

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in like it's another one of those like it's only a couple of row repeats, but I think it'd be very

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pretty for like an edge or like a small part of the project. I wouldn't want to do it for like a

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whole thing. That is fair. I did. So Jess and I both got the same sparkly blue yarn and I started

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a scarf in feather and fan and I didn't even make enough for a cravat. It gets tedious after a while.

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It does. It looks really pretty. It does. It is a bit tedious. It's not my favorite. Yeah. Tina?

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I honestly I had to look at feather and fan because I don't think I've done it before,

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but that looks like a huge pain in my butt. So I'm going to go with the one I've actually done before,

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which is the herringbone. See, I had to look it up because I heard feather and fan and I thought,

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well, yeah, I do that in crochet all the time, but I'm like, it's a little bit different. People

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are thinking about knitting and I had to see and I done it in knitting too. I have tried the herring

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bone in knitting. I don't like the way it looks actually. I feel like there have been some patterns

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where they use it and it does look cool, but do not like it personally. And feather and fan I can

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do in two crafts. So I would go with feather and fan. See, I've never done herringbone and I feel

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like that's one of those stitches where you have to have the exact right needle size for the yarn

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that you're doing. The exact right gauge and needle size. It has to look right. Yeah, that's fair.

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No, that is fair. I was going to say for me, it has to be the right project. You can't just slap

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that on anything. It's got to be really thoughtful. Yeah. And I would want to use it right and I would

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want it to look good because it looks like a tedious stitch and I don't want to put that much

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effort into something to have it not look good. Lace or color work? Color work. Color work. Oh,

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wait. Now I'm talking about lace pattern knitting, not lace weight. I'm going to change it. Hold on.

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My initial reaction was totally lace weight because I just completely blaked out. I just

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heard lace and immediately went brr. The other one. Like as stitch patterning. Gotcha. Yes.

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My reason I do not like knitting lace and it's mainly because I swear to God and Jess has seen

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this live and it's awful. When I make mistakes, if I can't immediately understand how I made the

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mistake, it is like I have a complete mental block and I cannot figure out what I did. You make a

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mistake in color work, it's so easy to figure it out. It's also really easy to fix it. You just

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literally drop down and change the color. Lace mistakes can be catastrophic. They can be.

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And if I can't look at it and immediately figure out where I screwed up,

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I just, it's like a complete mind blank. So I'll always pick color work. All right.

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What do you think about it, Tina? All risk, all reward, go with the lace.

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Because you know what? You're right. You do live on the edge the entire time.

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Cause you know, you're like, ah, maybe it's been four rows. I could put like a, you know,

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what's it called? A lifeline and stuff just in case. Or I could just go to row five and see what

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happened. See where it takes us. I like the way that lace looks. So I'll go with lace.

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Just, it's so hard because like most of my shawls are lace and most of my other stuff is color work,

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but I did do a color work shawl. So if we're going by the amounts that we do it that way,

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I guess I do color work more. But what you enjoy more. Yeah. It's hard because here's the thing too.

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I usually prefer the look of lace and shawls, but I do like doing color work because it kind of flies.

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I get multiple colors and usually I pick dragons. So dragons come out of it. I mean,

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you can't go wrong with dragons coming out of it. That's fair. Um, personally, I would probably go

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with the lace. I always liked the look of lace, the potential for tears. See, I love the look of

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lace, but that's why I avoid it is the potential for tears. I don't know. Every once in a while,

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a good cry is good. It's healing. Lace is one of those things that like, once you mess up and

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you've had that horrific moment where you've had to tear back like so many sections, it's,

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you can't touch it for a while. Yes. But you do go back to it. Yeah. And when it works out,

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it's like, oh, yeah, that's a good feeling. Yeah. Like nothing beats a good finished lease project.

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Yes. Yeah. Like the sense of accomplishment, eight plus bobbles or newps.

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All of it sucks. I mean, it does all suck. I've only ever done bobbles though. So I guess I got

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to go with that. What weight yarn? Doesn't matter. You choose, choose your own adventure.

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If I am doing a new pit, better be light. And if I'm a bulky weight new, it's going to be like a

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baseball. Can you imagine? I'm just. Preferencing. That's why I asked what weight and she said,

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whatever. Seven dog. Seven top, super bulky. God, it better be light. No. And then for a bobble,

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I really like, I actually like doing bobbles in, um, I would say fingering or less, but yeah,

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I mean, a newp is a nope, right? I think that we've determined. I agree. Newps are no,

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but have you tried it in bulky? I will, I will go bobble instead of a new,

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but I'm glad I gave everyone that visual. Yeah. Cause I forgot. Cause, uh, a bobble is you

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increase, right? And then you increase into the same stitch. And then the newp is just yarn overs

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that you pull together. Yeah. Guys, this is awful. I'm going with newp. Well, most often newps are

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done in fingering weight. Exactly. And, um, I kind of liked the look of the, of the lines rather than

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the poofy knits. And I, you know, I, I use lace needles all the dang time. So they make the newps

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a little bit easier if people are looking for hints on that. Um, I am also going to go with bobble.

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I'm in team newp is nope. Um, but I also have really fond memories of learning how to make bobbles on

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the Dwarven battle bonnet. Oh man. Back in the day, back in the day, like, did you make like eight of those?

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I did. You know, I made one and then there were so many people that I knew who were just like, yes,

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that's, that is the hat. Make me one. I remember you had a whole Facebook album for your Dwarven

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battle. And the pictures got funnier and funnier. They did because I started modeling them. Yes.

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They were hilarious. That is also like, if you are looking for a really fun pattern just to do

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the Dwarven battle bonnet to the second one, I really enjoyed the second one that that is a plus.

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You cannot go wrong. All right. Now that we've done like stitch work, let's get into like hardware

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and stuff. Okay. Okay. Circulars or straights. I know I already know the answer to this one. I know

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we already have a sticker. Okay. Next question. Fine. Down with the straights. Circulars forever.

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Hold on. I can make this harder. If you're doing like small circumference, circulars or double points.

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Actually that is in my, that is on that is that is that is on my list. But it's, it's a good,

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it's a good time to insert it in. I think I would much rather do the magic loop with two sets of

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circulars. And I only say that because I have a lot of experience doing double points with all those

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socks that I've made in the past. And the number of times that I have had stitches slide off one

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side or the other. Like I would much rather do the extra circulars. I just, this is maybe judge worthy.

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I don't, I just, I just do it on the big circular and I just keep pulling it and it's awful. But I

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am sitting there on the couch going, Nope, I'm not going to go get the double points. I don't even

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know if I have double points in this size. So we're just going to make this as uncomfortable

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as possible. And yeah. Okay. But we all do that. Do we, this is not just me. I do that. I'll be

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completely honest for the longest time. I thought that was magic loop. Oh, okay. Was everybody being

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lazy? No, I know it's not. I'm just saying back in the day, I used to think that was what magic loop

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was. That's when you gave up and you just kept pulling the wire. You know what I feel, I feel

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better about myself now. Cause I'm just sitting here like, I am not getting up. It's its own brand

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of magic. It's the lazy loop is what it is. I love the lazy loop. If y'all use the lazy loop, fess up,

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join us. Yeah, listen. And then, you know, but it's funny because at that point you have that

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circular set where the wire is much more malleable because you've been literally, it's been clinging

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for dear life as you finish your hat. Yeah. Yup. Yup. No, that's a thing. That's a thing. Oh,

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I love the lazy loop. The lazy loop. I do. It's so good. I see, I actually like using the smaller

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circulars because if I use double points or even when I use the lazy loop or the magic loop,

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wherever it kind of like meets, I cannot figure out how not to get like the seam looking part.

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Yeah. You get like a, almost like a ladder of stuff. Yeah. And like a lot of times it does block

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out, but not always, not to the, so I prefer as least amount of that as I can. So if I can get away

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with just doing a circular, I will do it that way. And if I have to, if I do have to use double points,

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I like the shorter ones, which I feel like I'm wrestling with a hedgehog and not a porcupine.

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So it's less painful. That's fair. Less spiky. Knitting charts or written instructions.

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Charts all the way. Depends on the pattern. Yeah. If it's a really basic pattern, don't give me a

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chart. Come on. Oh yeah. If it's, if it's just like, you know, four different stitches repeat.

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Yeah. No, I don't need a chart, but if it is like, I don't like it when it's like actually like a,

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relatively complicated with lots of increases and everything. And you don't give me a chart.

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Yeah. If I see something that looks complicated and then I say written instructions only, I'm

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not going to do it. Yeah. I'm just not, I think it's more like use your, use your judgment wisely.

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Yeah. You don't always need charted instructions, but if it's going to be more complicated than a

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simple knit pattern and a couple of rows. If your instructions fit on more than one line for a

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single row, you need a chart. Yeah. Oh, definitely. Definitely. That's kind of my, definitely my

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advice. Yeah, definitely. Um, but yeah, so I'll go with, uh, I'll go with chart just because if

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it's that complex situation, but again, if it's way too simple, please don't, don't, don't chart

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that. That's a waste of paper. Yeah, no, I'm, I'm, I'm in the same boat. I mean, there were,

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I want to say for the, um, what is it? The enchantment shawl that I did, most of it was

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a chart, but then there were sections that were written and they were like four lines long. And

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it was like, why would you do this to me? And so I get, it was in a book, so I printed it out the

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page so I could go down and move. And it was like a repeated section and I had to keep moving. That,

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that was kind of awful. I see why they did it. Cause I don't know how they could have put it

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into the chart, like looking at it. But at the same time, I was like, this is so hard. Um,

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other than that, yeah, I agree. If it's, if it's a super simple one, just, just write it out. It's

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usually fine. Um, color work, please just do charts, do a chart for color work. Oh God. Yeah. No,

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you have to. That gets tough to read. There's color work without charts. No, and it's just

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be like CC, MC, CC, MC. And there's numbers. And if you lose, like if you look at your,

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and then look over and then you lose your spot, it's like you can't panic. Yeah. I would not.

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I am counting and recounting all the time, trying to make sure I'm on MC and not a CC.

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I'm glad I'm not the only one that's horrified and didn't know this because I did not know this.

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I have not done many color work, like anything, but like that sounds like a nightmare. Most people

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will do chart only some do both. And I have run across a few that are like, here's the written.

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And it's like, it would be so much easier just to color in a grid tech editing that you couldn't pay

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me enough to tech edit that pattern. No way. I mean, if you want to do the written, that's fine.

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But at the end of the day, like just do the chart, man, especially if it's color work, it's just,

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I feel like it's so much easier to make a chart too with, with just colors, but okay. You do you

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boo. I much prefer a chart for almost everything. Yeah. At least something even because a lot of

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times it'll have a chart and a written and every once in a while, if I feel like I'm confused or

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I want to make sure I'm doing it right, I'll go to the written just to make sure. So having both is

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nice, but yeah, I feel like a lot of times I find the charts just a little bit easier for me. And

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again, that's easier because I'm more visual that way anyway. So I have an easier time finding where

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I am on a chart than in a written portion. I agree with that entirely. And for people who

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haven't worked with charts yet, or you're nervous because you've only worked with written or you

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don't really understand charts, uh, take the time to like learn the symbols. Cause also like charts

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are not as scary as they initially look. No, always check the key though. Cause some people

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use different things. So don't just automatically assume you know what they're talking about and

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check which direction it's going. Sometimes they go different directions. Yep. Yeah. I know,

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I know they all could be different. I'm just more saying like if just in general, like take a,

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go find a simple color work or something that has a chart and just look at it and just like see if

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you can see what they're trying to tell you to do. Um, color work's probably an easy one to do.

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Cause there's not like it's, it's like, do that color or do this color. But like if you want,

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and then if you want to like get into something more complex with like actual stitch differences,

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you could do that. But I love cable charts. I will add though. Okay. I have to admit just,

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just thinking about it. I prefer crochet written. Oh no. Crochet charts are the devil.

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No. And the biggest issue is, is that sometimes it's just hard to tell what they're showing and

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where the stitch starts in the next row. Um, and so it can get really confusing. Um, once I already

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know the pattern, the chart is fine. Cause I'm like, okay, I know where I'm at. But when I'm

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first doing it, I'm like, do they want me to start with a double or a triple or does that sound

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completely different? Because the things all look very similar and they're very close together,

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especially the more intricate you get, it's, it gets a little scary. So crochet, please,

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please add a written part to your crochets. Cause that's awesome. If not, that's fine too,

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but I'll cry more metal needles or wooden needles. I'm a big fan of metal. What about plastic?

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I can live with plastic. My, I have a lot of inherited plastic needles from my grandmother

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and, um, even some circulars and I don't mind them. They're not my fave, but I don't mind them.

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I don't really like wooden though. I'm always afraid that it, and it's happened,

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like it's a real fear. It's based in fact, I sit on my needle sometimes and the wooden ones

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do not survive. My, my, my rear is ample. Well, it will take those needles out. So definitely

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metal all the way for me. Yeah. I'm stuck in limbo again because I have different reasons

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for using wood and different reasons for using metal. Yeah. You do go back and forth. I do.

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When I'm using something like this, that has a very little ply, you better not put this on wood

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because that's going to be pain in the butt getting caught in everything. Um, but if I'm using like a

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cotton that's going to fall off my metal needles, then yeah, I'm going to want to break out my wood

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ones. That's fair. Also severely depends on the project I'm working on. Cause like, if it's like

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a project where I'm having like a really long row, um, I actually prefer the wood over the

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metal because it just helps, holds better for me. Like if I'm, if I'm having like,

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I have a hundred stitches or something more on a row. Um, but if I have to pick,

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I don't like this one. Um, if you could only knit with one or the other for the rest of your life,

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we'll go extreme. I'm going to, okay, then I will say wood. I'm not going to do metal.

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If I absolutely had, I'd be grumpy about it. I'm going to be grumpy about it, but yeah,

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I'll go wood. Well, don't let them around me. Our cats eat wooden ones. Yeah, they do. They chew them.

357
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That's right out. Honestly, like depending on the plastic, I don't mind plastic,

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but I have a tendency to warp my plastic ones after a while. You're laughing at me, but it's true.

359
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Well, I think all plastic needles tend to like bend and warp after extensive use anyway.

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Metal are probably the best here because I don't have to worry about jerks using them as floss and

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then ruining the site. Also the plastic and the wood, like the wood is great if you're worried

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about stuff, um, sliding at the same time. I've noticed with both plastic and wood, um,

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if you're not careful, like it tends to get like, I can't explain it, but it, there gets like a film

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on it almost. It doesn't matter if you wash them. It's like sticky. Also stores need to stop putting

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stickers on like the needles. Oh my God. Yes. Yes. Oh, I hate that so much. Um, yeah.

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Goo Gone is your friend, but even that, like it takes a while to scrub that off. Otherwise,

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you know, it works better. Um, hand sanitizer breaks down the sticky stuff, but yeah,

368
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metals probably my go-to. And that's also because I have a bias with lace points. Um,

369
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I was just going to say what you brought up with the wood. I see, I find that with the cheaper

370
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needles, if you get like a nice wood set, uh, you're not going to have that problem. Yeah.

371
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I know exactly what you're talking about. Cause when I, no offense to clovers, but when I use

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clovers and I use them for like a longer project for a long time, it's like, yeah, you get that

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weird, like, yeah. Do you know what I wonder that it is? I wonder if it's like the oils from your

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skin absorbing into the wood. Probably. Yeah. But I could tell, I can tell you my nitpicks,

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I don't have that problem. My nice, you know, they probably do a better finish or something.

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Like the clovers. Yeah. They just kind of disintegrate. I just like, uh, no, but the, um,

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and I can't speak on any other ones. I just, for me, the nitpick ones don't have that problem.

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I have exactly one set of wooden needles and it was like, I ordered them not realizing

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that they were wooden. I should have because they were ebony. I remember you got those. Yeah.

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I know. But I'm, I'm happy with them. I probably will not use them as often as I would with my

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metal ones. Like I'm, I use them for the project that I was working on, but now I think, um, like

382
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I do worry that I'm going to put them down and sit on it. That's fair. What a waste of money.

383
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I enjoy them when I'm using them. Like having them is not the waste of money, but if I sit on them

384
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and break them, that will be such a waste. Knitting with beads or knitting with sequins? Beads.

385
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Because sequins are sticky and they bend if you don't do them right. And usually with sequin,

386
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like unless you use a bead as well, they like go sideways and I don't like you get the yarn with

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the sequins on them and they're all sideways and stuff. And I don't, they feel weird to me. I don't

388
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like the feeling of them. They just feel scratchy. Um, beads, you know, yes, they're a texture, but

389
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they're usually a smoother tag. I guess you could use the triangle beads, but I don't, so I can't

390
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speak for that, but I agree with you on the texture thing. My mom used to buy me like

391
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sweaters and stuff that had sequins, god awful sweaters. Yeah. Well, okay. It was the eighties.

392
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It was the eighties and the nineties. And I hated wearing them. They had the worst texture. They're

393
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also like scratchy. Like they, they, they are abrasive. It felt like a cheese grater,

394
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like wearing a cheese grater. I did not like it. Yeah. No thanks. Yeah. Based on the yarn

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that's come in with a sequence on it. I'm going to, I'm going to go with jazz. Jazz is correct.

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Let's go beads. Yeah. Teen bead here. Teen bead. Knitting in the round or knitting flat. Do you

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want to go back and forth or do you want to go round and round and round and round and round?

398
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Which one do you think I like? I wonder. Round and round. It's really tough to tell. I'm easy. I'll

399
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go round. It just goes faster. You just have to keep going. I really don't know on this one. I,

400
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I like both. I don't think I could pick one or the other. Most of my projects last year were

401
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back and forth, but if we're talking sweaters round. Yeah. Sweaters I'd go round because I

402
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know I'm terrible at seaming and it's probably something I should work on, but I don't want to.

403
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Eventually I'm going to have to work on it if I get back around to that blanket, but

404
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that's on a pause right now. And again, cause I do tend to like color work and that is way better in

405
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the round. Like, listen, I, I stick to things so I could do color work in the round and have it

406
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flattened. But like if you're doing like those nice lace work shawls, like, yeah, go back and forth.

407
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Yeah. You can't, you can't really knit lace in the round. It's just, it's just not quite the same.

408
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No, it's not. So yeah, that one's a tough, uh, I guess if I had to, had to, had to choose,

409
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to choose, I'd go round and figure out seeking better and how to make lace work the best I could,

410
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I suppose. I think that's fair. And you can have like the best of everything.

411
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I don't want to speak though. That's fair. You know what? Like I, I over Christmas,

412
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we had a conversation about that. And I said, you know, I used to be like, I have to have like every

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single one of these tricks in my wheelhouse. And now I'm just like, no, I don't want to do that.

414
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I don't want to knit that. Like I don't need to be a complete knitter. I do not need all of these

415
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things. And I feel like that's some growth there. Um, instead of being like, well, I really need to

416
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like learn that skill. Uh, you know what? There are some skills I just don't care to learn.

417
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Steaking just scares me. I do want to speak, but of putting in all of that work and then

418
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losing it and not just losing it, but like cutting it. I steeped my swatch the other day.

419
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Cause I didn't feel like knitting back and forth, but I still had to measure it as a flat.

420
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So I didn't around and then cut it. What's wrong with you? I'm just impressed that you swatched.

421
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Like, I mean, I am too. Here comes the purists that are like, well, that is not testing your gauge

422
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flat. That's testing your gauge. The route. No, no, it worked guys. Well, I tested it for the sweater

423
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that was going to be in the round. So I did have to do it anyway. Um, and do you want to see it

424
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though? Because I totally didn't follow the directions. This is my swatch. It's so little.

425
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Yeah. I didn't need it to be that big. I didn't realize you steeped that. Oh yeah. I was wondering

426
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where the stick was. Yeah. Yeah. No, it's, it's way smaller than I did half of the swatch. And then

427
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I was like, yeah, that's enough. Um, and then I didn't do it right anyway, because I was supposed

428
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to then do the color work in the size up and I didn't. And I just kept the color work on the same

429
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size. I like the sweater though, guys, don't do what I'm doing. I know I'm not following the

430
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directions completely, but it's gauged for me. Jess has a way of making things work out even if

431
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you don't follow it the right way. It happened and the cats are cute and I didn't have the needles

432
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and I want to make the cats. So, but I made a swatch. Oh, it was for this. Yeah. So, cause I

433
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hadn't done, um, sorcerer before in a sweater. So I was like, yeah, I probably should check on that

434
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a little bit. Like ranger I got down, but yeah, so I did do it, but I know some people are so going

435
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to be like, yeah, but did you actually do it? I'm like, yes and no. Okay. There is an actual swatch

436
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This is all, this is like 140% right here for me. Okay. Like I, yeah, if it makes you feel any

437
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better, Jess, I am currently making this pattern work for what I have done because I'm not going

438
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back guys. So I feel like, what did you do? Um, I just, I skipped about, uh, five rows, Tina. It's

439
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not necessary. I'm gonna, I'm gonna put them in later. We don't need them right now. Those are

440
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rows for later. Okay. It's just going to look a little different on the bottom. They are arriving

441
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late. Okay. We've moved from this or that into true confessions. It's they're fashionably late.

442
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No, you know what? And then I thought to myself, you know what? No, I don't even like those five

443
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rows there. I'm going to put them later. Yeah. So I did it on purpose. That's what I'm telling myself.

444
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Oh my God. I want the cable to start at the ribbing, not this little thing. No, I'm doing

445
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Do you realize that if you said nothing, nobody would have known that you did something weird?

446
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No, I'm just telling you, like I understand. I also wing my kids. Watch me. Oh God. When I got home today,

447
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I told Frank what I was going to be doing. Uh huh. And I told him we're going to play this or that

448
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for the podcast. Okay. And he was like, Oh, can I give you one? And I was like, yeah, absolutely.

449
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A Frank question. It's a Frank question, but it's not this or that. Oh, because he didn't understand

450
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what this or that was. Okay. He needed the rules. I guess there are rules for this. All right. So

451
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what did he have? I think he thought I was asking for a would you rather question. Ah, okay. That's

452
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all right. Which is a little different, but it's okay. It counts. But he came up with a banger.

453
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Okay. For a year, a whole year, 365 consecutive days. Okay. Would you rather knit Spider-Man onesies?

454
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Well, I wonder where the Frank part comes in. Or knit pants for Bruce Banner, knowing that they will

455
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be ruined every time he turns into the Hulk. And these are the only projects that you can work on

456
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for an entire year. Do the pants. Can there be some variety in the pants? I'll say yes. I'm going

457
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to go with the pants then. At least I'll get to knit different things and I won't get bored. The

458
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Spider-Man onesie I think is going to get old. Oh, but think of all the color work that you can do.

459
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And there's so many variations. I could do variations in color work on Bruce Banner's pants.

460
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Listen, are these adult onesies or baby onesies? This is also a really good question. They are

461
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teenager onesies and he's like super skinny. Oh, for the Spider-Man. Or for the Spider-Man.

462
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Okay. How many does he need? A year's worth. What I can make in a year sounds like one. All right.

463
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I'm down for the onesie. Do you know what? That's what I told Frank too. I was saying,

464
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are we going to take me a year to make it? We're not talking Peter Parker. We're talking like Miles,

465
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right? He did not specify. Either way, it's a tiny man. No, dude. Peter Parker is bigger. Okay.

466
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That's what I mean. Miles is a wee thing. I don't even know who Miles is. So there's that. He's the

467
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new Spider-Man. Oh, okay. I don't know. They're all tiny men. Whether you want to say Peter Parker

468
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is a big man or not. I'm telling you, Pat Gleason just walked in the room and he said he's small.

469
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Yeah, I had no idea that was a person. Well, I don't know enough about Spider-Man. He did not specify

470
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which Spider-Man, which I am taking to mean it leaves it open to interpretation for

471
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whichever Spider-Man onesie you would want to make. Lego Spider-Man. Got it. There it is.

472
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And I'm only making one. With size like zero, zero, zero, zero needles. Okay. But here's,

473
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I'm dead. I'm done. Here's the thing with the Hulk ones. Just to throw this one out here,

474
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okay? Because you got to try and think about it. And when the Hulk and like all the shows,

475
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he is not hulking out in knitted pants. Okay. Those are like polyester, whatever kind of

476
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garbage. So one has to assume like knit things do grow pretty, pretty well if you use the right

477
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stitch. So if I made one with a whole ton of crazy ribbing in it, maybe he wouldn't split them.

478
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Yeah. That begs the question though. How does the pants get bigger in the first place?

479
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This is a good point. Everything else is splitting, but the pants tend to stay on.

480
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And we're grateful for that. I'm based on the cartoon I watched. Looking at it, that leads me

481
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to believe that his calves get really huge, but his thighs and like waist in comparison only get

482
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so big. It's true. It's true. Like he's skipping leg day a little bit. He does have a much smaller

483
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waist. Sure. He's a Dorito. Yeah. And then his calves are pretty, like his feet and calves are

484
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pretty massive. This is the best question. Thank you, Frank. I'm not going to lie. When you said

485
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you started with Spider-Man and I was like, how could this get better? No, I was, I was waiting

486
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for knitting something like a onesie for the Hulk, not the Hulk for Godzilla. I was waiting for the

487
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Godzilla question because I, we all know Frank loves Godzilla. He does a lot. He does.

488
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That, that I was surprised by the Hulk. The Hulk threw me. He did not bring up Godzilla at all.

489
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I was very impressed. That's different for Frank. Yeah. I'm still going to go with the onesie because

490
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I don't understand the physics of the Hulk. That's fair. That's fair. I don't understand.

491
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I think I would also go with Spider-Man just because I do think that it does like open it up

492
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for like variation. Sure. There's, there's so many different incarnations of Spider-Man. Exactly. You

493
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could do a whole bunch of different ones. Listen, if I could come up with pants that like Tony Stark

494
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could not figure out how to make for the Hulk, I would feel accomplished is all I have to say.

495
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That's fair. Same. Same. Man, we should have Frank ask more questions. Like that was a good one.

496
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I mean, we have talked about doing an interview with Frank and Patrick. We should do that.

497
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I'm sure Patrick will have not great questions at all. I don't know. I think Pat will be a surprise.

498
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I'm waiting for him to crack out a good one. Like I feel like he might. Guys, I'm nervous. We can't

499
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put Pat on the air. My husband is, I love my husband. He is, his humor is dark and crude.

500
00:53:30,640 --> 00:53:36,560
But we, but we are not live. We are not live. That's true. So you just might hear all these odd

501
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pauses in between all of his questions. And that's going like, okay, great question.

502
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That is next. Maybe one day I'll bring Frank.

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Thanks for tuning in this week for our game show night. We all won. Did we though, or did Frank win?

504
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I think Frank is the like top winner. Well, anyway, for additional content and opportunities

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