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I'm Drea. I'm Meg. I'm Tina. And I'm Jess. And this is Pardon My Stash.

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Welcome to Pardon My Stash, a podcast about knitting within the fiber arts and how awesome

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it is. Before we get into this week's topic, what are we working on this week? Jess? I am working on

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the Enchantment shawl. Yes, designed by Susanna Icy. And it's in the Fellowship of the Knits book.

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And it's fun because it's beaded. So right now I'm using Critical Hit Die's Rogue in the color

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Way Vishka. And I'm also going to be using the Shadow of Aaron gradient when I get to that part.

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Right now it's just one and it's fun and I'm already at beads and I need to say I haven't done

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beads in a while. Meg? I'm working on the Speranza beanie by Geneva Vasquez. And I'm just doing it

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like quickly just to see how a couple of our colors knit up. I'm using two colors from

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Critical Hit Die's. It's a soon to be released collection at the Fiber Fest. And their color

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ways are Candy Apple and Meet Me at the Marketplace. And I'm knitting them in Barbarian.

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You working on anything, Tina? My life. Very good. Fair. I appreciate that. No problem. You're

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doing great. Thanks. Drea? I am still working on the French Can Can by Mademoiselle C. I'm using

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Madeline Tosh DK in colorway homings Nevada. And the border is what I'm working on now and that is

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Madeline Tosh Vintage in Rieberbund. And I know last time I said I was going to cast on a pair of

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socks, but I couldn't bring myself to do so. I'm a one project kind of gal. Good for you. Thank you.

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I am proud of myself for sticking to it. And one day I will be done. But this border is taking

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a very long time. So after three years of podcasting, we are almost to our 100th episode.

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Yeah, that. Hold on. I got a whole lot of it. And it's really hard to believe that

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we are already at almost 100 episodes. That is bonkers to me. One more time.

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Not only that we have been doing this, but y'all have been listening to us and having a real good time doing it.

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For the audience. Thank you. And you know, we love talking to you. I love that you love us talking to you.

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We're all having a really good time up in Pardon Moustache. And we do want to thank you for joining us.

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In honor of our 100th episode, we are going to be giving away two spectacular prizes,

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courtesy of Jimmy Beans Wool to celebrate. Yeah.

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Who doesn't like free stuff? I mean, I really do enjoy free stuff.

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And it's really nice stuff. It is really nice stuff. Do you want me to tell you what it's going to be?

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So we're going to have two prizes, five skeins of Yarn Citizen Harmony fingering yarn in driftwood

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Tina is going to be very jealous of whoever gets it. Oh, I already touched it.

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I touched it and it has, it's very nice. You also touched the yarn and it has alpaca in it.

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Yes, fair warning. It was less fun for you. It was less fun for me.

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But I will do anything for this podcast. But it is into the night. No, okay, I'm done.

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So this week we got a submission on one of our Instagram posts from a listener.

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And they had recently listened to our cast on episode, which was a very good episode.

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So if you haven't listened to it, go head on over there. I also hosted that one.

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Did you really? Oh, wow.

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When was that episode? That was a while ago.

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I was going to say, I don't remember that episode. I think it was season one, if not two.

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It had to be. It was a while ago. But here I am back for more,

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because guess what we're going to talk about this week? What is it, Drea?

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We're going to talk about bind offs. Wow.

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I'm very excited. Wow.

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We got to do, I don't know. Start talking like that.

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I love that you did the wow like Patrick does. Wow.

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Oh my God, I can't. I can't.

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But I'm very excited because I love bind offs. And I say that I love bind offs, but really I like

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too. I was going to say, who doesn't love being done with the project?

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I love being done with the project. Victory lap to the end.

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It is the victory lap. Although it is the worst victory lap when you think about it,

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because bind offs take forever. See, I like the bind off because it doesn't

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matter how big the project is. I never get tired of doing it because it's a repetitive stitch.

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And the project keeps getting smaller and smaller. Sometimes I had a bind off that had bobbles in it.

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Okay. That sounds like a horrific. It comes out really, really pretty.

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I bet it looks gorgeous. Beautiful.

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It's not going to be a bind off that I'm going to use.

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You had one that had short rows? Yeah, it made a nifty ruffle, but it was short rows.

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So yeah, Dre, sometimes it's just do a decrease and you're done.

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Okay. Well, let me rephrase that. I do the same repetitive stitch over and over

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because do you know what? I don't typically venture away from my go-to bind off.

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Fair. Like, I know that everybody is very familiar

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with the traditional bind off. And I'm just saying it's a traditional bind off

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because I don't know what else to call it. Standard, classic, classic.

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Yeah. Where you knit to and you pass one over.

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What is it? I'm not going to say it right. The old reliable.

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The problem with old reliable though is that it is like taut.

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There is no stretch. There is no give. It's fine for a shawl. Or not a shawl, a scarf.

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It's good for a scarf. But anything you're going to want to stretch, it is not the ones.

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Don't do it for sleeves. I found that out the hard way.

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Yeah, don't do that either. Don't do it for sleeves.

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I actually don't mind it for certain shawls because it keeps the shape.

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That's fair. Right. If it's depending on where it is on the shawl, it's fine.

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But if it's anything that you're going to want to like stretch over your head or your don't do it.

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You'll just be sadly holding it like this going, no.

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Yeah. So fairly speaking, I have not used that bind off since I learned my other old reliable.

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Which is? I don't know what it's called.

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Okay. I don't know what it's called. I found it on a website. I really enjoyed it.

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That sounds really specific. Everybody go to that website.

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Hang on. Look for that bind off.

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So I found it on Spruce Crafts. Okay. And basically it like it says it's a stretchy

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bind off. I would say that it's got like medium stretch. It's not super stretchy.

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It's not like a Jenny's, you know, it's it holds its shape pretty well, but it's also not going to

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like run away from you. And what you do is you knit the first two stitches through the back loops

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and then you put the stitch back on the left needle and you keep doing that. And it creates

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like this like really nice flat, almost like a chain stitch on the end. And I love how clean

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it looks. And like I said, it's like mid stretch, not super stretchy, but it gives it like a really

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clean look. Gotcha. And that one's my favorite. I use that one a lot too, but mainly for things

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like like shawls or cowls or things that don't, again, don't have a lot of stretch. Again, you

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don't want to necessarily use that one for like a lot of garments, depending on how stretchy you

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need them. But I like that one too. If you want to get real crazy, you can do the same thing

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only with a purl two together. I'm not going to do that. Some people like to purl, man. I'm just

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saying I am not one of them. Sometimes it's easier. I am also not one of them, but I have done the

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purl two together and it is. What's the benefit of it over the knit two together? I think it depends

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on which side. Is it just the side or does it allow for stretchiness? Yeah, it's still mild.

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Is it the same? No, but I mean, so it's the same stretch as the knit one. But it's just your purl

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side. So function wise, it's the same. It's just more about like. Looks wise, I want to say it puts

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the stitches on the other side because of the way you're doing it. But yeah, could be.

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Yeah, could be interesting. So I'm not going to do it, but it could be interesting.

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There is that one. Some people are out there like purl and purl and like madmen and.

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I'm never going to yuck somebody else's yum, but that one is definitely not for me. I actually,

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I prefer purling now that I knit Portuguese style. I do prefer purling. That one might be for you.

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It's less of a movement. Oh, that's because you're bringing it from the top. Yeah. From the front.

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So I don't, I don't mind purling. But that being said, I also don't mind knitting. I think both

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movements are actually fine. Like I felt like when I did it English style, I definitely disliked

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purl. Like cause it was such an extra step. Yes. Um, but I feel with Portuguese, it's,

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it's just a different kind of flick. It's not really a much of a difference, but.

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Do you have a preferred bind off, Tina? Um, it definitely depends on what I'm doing.

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So I don't use the basic standard, whatever we want to call it, the old reliable very often,

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but I definitely actually like using it for shawls, especially if I'm making a triangular shawl.

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I like, um, the edge that it finishes off on, cause you're typically ending on the longest edge.

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So, um, I, I did that actually on my, uh, the stormy sky shawl and, um, I definitely did that,

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uh, a standard bind off on that. I just, I didn't need it to like, I felt like if I started to do

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Jenny's and I felt like it was too much, like it was warping the edge and I didn't like it. So I

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went back and I did a standard and I liked it better. It kept it form and it's form, you know,

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if I'm doing garments, it also depends, uh, what part of the garment I'm doing. I don't mind doing,

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uh, Jenny's surprisingly stretchy bind off on edges of the bottom of a garment. I don't like

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doing it on a tight collar. I feel like it doesn't give you enough stretch. So Jenny's is stretchy,

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right? But I would actually put Jenny's to a medium ish, maybe a little bit more stretch.

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And I'll tell you why. Cause for me, tubular is the stretchiest bind off and cast on by far.

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Cause I find I've made crew neck sweaters before with the tubular and I'm able to get my fat head

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through a very small hole. Okay. Fairly speaking, you do have a, no, I actually do. I say I'm joking,

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but like, I actually do have a larger than normal head. I typically need to do the adult large when

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I'm doing a beanie. Um, and so for me, um, if I'm doing like a crew neck or a, uh, uh, neckline

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that is going to be tighter, um, I prefer tubular, um, because it, one, the edge looks amazing.

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Especially if it's going to be ribbing, cause it just looks so seamless and pretty to it. Super,

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super stretchy, way stretchier than Jenny's. Um, Jenny does have a limit at a point. So,

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and I've encountered that, especially with tight necklines and sleeves, cause I also have an issue

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with sleeves because my triceps are so large. So if it's a short sleeve garment, I can't do Jenny's

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because it doesn't fit around my triceps. Um, I have a lot of fat and extra skin, so I can't like,

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even with a normal t-shirt, the abdomen might be fine, but the sleeves are always, I have to adjust

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to be slightly bigger. Um, so I end up doing, if it's, if it's going to be a short sleeve,

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it's going to be tubular again. And, um, but yeah, usually the end of the garment though,

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if it's not form fitting, um, I'm okay with Jenny's down there, but sometimes I'll do tubular again,

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because I want it to match. That's fair. That's fair. If there's ribbing at the bottom and at the

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neckline and at the sleeves, like I'll want them all with the same bind off. Cause then I'll look

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cohesive. And I've done other ones I've done. Um, I've done a cable bind off. I've done a, um,

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How did you like the cable bind off?

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That's, I find that to be pretty firm. I don't find that to be stretchy either,

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but sometimes I like the way it looks over a standard.

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Is it, did you find it to be difficult or complicated?

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Not really. No, but I do, I do like how that looks over, depending on what, again, depending

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on what I'm working at, I think the, the thing to take away from me is I have go-tos for situations.

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I can't say I use the same bind off for everything. It's definitely situational and like what I'm

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working on and like what body part it might be on.

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You know, I wish I could say the same, but I use the same one for everything. Unless it's socks.

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Unless it's socks, in which case I will have some variety, but that, that one that I mentioned at

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the start there, that, that is, that is it.

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Well with socks, you have to deal with a kitchener stitch at the end of if you're doing top down,

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right? Yes. And I love the kitchener stitch. I know a lot of people don't feel the same, but,

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and I'm not going to lie. I never remember how to do it. And I always have to look up how to do it.

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I feel like tubular is the same. Yeah. It's very, in terms of like, you never remember how to do it.

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If you haven't done it in a while, but once you look at it and you do a couple, yeah, you know,

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it's, it's just like riding a bike. I feel like when I learned tubular, kitchener came to me easier.

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Not that it's similar in steps, but it's a similar kind of motion.

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Yes. So I found it easier to handle kitchen, like kitchener didn't seem so scary to me once I figured

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out tubular. So I was like, okay, I can, I can kitchener some stitches.

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Huh? Huh? Huh? No. Okay. I'll just, I'll see myself.

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Meg, what about you?

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I'm pretty much married to doing the, uh, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the,

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Jenny's in most cases. Um, sometimes I will do the two together through the back loop and

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knit one over them. Um, those two are, are pretty much my go-tos. If it is something

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really like, if I'm just whipping off like a cowl or something like that, sometimes I'll just do the,

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the old traditional one just because it's easy. Um, I tend to be a person that looks it up, even if

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I think I know exactly how I've done it. I can't tell you how many times I've done Jenny's, um,

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cast off. Um, and I still look it up every time, um, because I don't trust myself to remember it.

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Um, I, I'm working, this is kind of not, not quite off the topic, but a little bit.

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I'm working on a sweater now and I've cast the Yoke on three times in the last month and a half.

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And I've done the German short rows three times and I have looked up the German short rows

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every time. Um, even though I know how to do them, it's really frustrating sometimes.

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But how much more frustrating would it be if you got half way through knowing that you did the whole

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thing wrong? And that's why I do it. Yeah. It's just, it's like that extra insurance. Like I know

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I'm probably going to remember how to do this. Like within a minute of watching this tutorial,

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I'm going to do it anyway. I still look up how to make one right, make one left. Oh no, same.

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Actually, I don't anymore. And it is only because of a project. I think it's the one I'm working on

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right now, Ocean Stones, because I have had to make one right and left so many times that I,

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I feel like I will remember that forever. Um, except I know I won't. I'll finish that project.

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And then three months later, I'll be like, God, what is make one, right? But right now,

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while I'm in it, I'm, I got it down for now. I'm the same. The only other one that I have done,

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um, that I actually have liked, um, but it's again, very specific to project is the I-cord bind off.

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I love that because it is never done an I-cord bind off. It's honestly a lot easier than it

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may look or sound. Um, it has a beautiful finish, but it's a finish without a lot of give

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because I-cords are not meant to be stretchy. They're meant to be solid. So doing an I-cord

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on like the end of a garment is going to give it a lot of structure. It's not going to give it a lot

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of stretch. So it is, is really good on like a really structured shawl, um, or maybe a sweater

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where you don't have to like a, maybe a more free flowing sweater where you don't have to worry

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about the right where you're not going to have to worry about stretching it over you. Um, but it's

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mainly there for decorative purposes, not so much for the stretch. They're fun though. I do like

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I-cords. I, this is a total side note. I got an I-cord machine. I love that thing. I have seen the,

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I got Jess one. I'm like, I can make I-cords all day. Just crank it out. And then I'm like,

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I don't need this I-cord. It's great for like, if you have a pattern for like a purse or something

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and you need like a draw string or, um, straps, it's great for that. Like a hoodie or something.

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Yeah. If you're like, I don't want to sit there and crank out like six feet of I-cord because

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that's tedious. Those things are good. I've done them by hand several times, but, um, you know,

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there's nothing more satisfying than doing it on the machine and like knowing how long it takes

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me to do an I-cord by hand. I'm just like, Oh, look at it coming out. Well, I would think,

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especially if you're like, like a hoodie, for example, and you're done with the sweater and

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you're like, you know what I would love to do right now? Five solid feet of manual. That sounds

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like a blast. No thanks. Hard pass. Every time I see an I-cord, I'm like, I just don't have it in

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me. Oh, see, I love how they come out, but I like doing them for all of maybe six inches. And then

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I'm like, and I'm good. Yeah. And then I will put the project down forever. I've been doing this for

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a thousand years. 2000 years later. Yeah. What about you, Jess? If I had a choice, if I could,

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because I'm lazy, I would love to just use the classic bind off. I love the classic bind off.

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It's just, it goes so fast. It's so mindless. It goes, it's great. I like what it looks like too.

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I use it like 1% of the time and it makes me mad because I'm always like, can I use it? No,

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no, I can't, but I want to. I also really love and really hate the tubular bind off.

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It looks fantastic. I hate doing it because you have to make sure you have the right amount of

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tail to do it. And if you're doing a larger project, it's getting caught in itself the

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whole time you're doing it. And while you're like untying where it catches, you forget if you were

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like on the pearl stitch part or the knit stitch part. She's speaking from very recent experience.

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I've just had to live this whole thing with her like in the last week and a half. And you're

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standing there staring at it. Like, are you a twisted stitch from the perler from the knit?

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What did I do? It's awful, but it looks great. So if I highly recommend it, but yeah, no,

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if I have to drop a tubular bind off like halfway through, I am writing a post it and putting it on

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there. Cause otherwise I don't remember. I put a note in my phone. So for I have you done a tubular

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bind off? No, I was going to say from somebody that hasn't maybe both of us that have not done

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this. Why is it so hard to remember where you're at in the middle of the spine? Does it look weird?

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Cause I'm not understanding any of this. So basically what, what you do is when you're on

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the knit, you always your left hand needle, you've got, you're working with two stitches at a time,

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but you work on the stitch furthest from the needle point first. Okay. And then you go through

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the one closest to the needle point and you only pull off the one closest to the needle point.

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Now, when you do that, the stitch twists. So if you're not paying attention, well, you have to go

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like the way you're going in and out is also a certain way. Yeah. So if you're starting off a

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knit, you have to go through the back and in between the two stitches to start it and then back

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through and through the back. And if you're going a purl wise, you don't have to do that. The purl

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wise is actually easier, but if you do it wrong, it pulls off the stitch when you take it off.

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So I can see why that would be. So sometimes you're like doing it. And then all of a sudden

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you're like, Oh, that fell off. And you can tell if you're paying attention and realize where you

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are. I like one, they do look different when they're pulled from, if you just did a purl or

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if you just did knit, but if you weren't looking at it to start with, you're going to look at that

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and be like, I don't know if that's a knit or a purl. That makes sense. Cause there's not a good

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way to, you can't even really pull it up and be like, Oh yeah, it's because of the way it's binding

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off. It doesn't really tell you which direction you were initially doing it unless you're looking

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close. So, so yeah, so that, that one, again, it's beautiful, but if you lose track of where you're

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at, you just kind of hope and pray. There is for tubular, if anyone is like interested in looking

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in an easy way to do tubular, cause there's actually a bunch of different ways you can do it.

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There is a way to do a tubular cast on in the round without a hook or waste yarn. And there's

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also a way to do the bind off in an easy way. And that's all brought to you by a YouTuber who

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goes by the name of 10 rows a day. And I really, every time I have to do tubular anything, like

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look her up because it's really, she uses very contrasted like yarn and background so you can

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see like what's going on. And I really like the way that she, the cast on in particular, I really

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like not having a provisional cast on and like just, just do it. I hate provisional cast on so

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much. I will actively go out of my way to not do provisional cast on. I actively go out of my way.

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Yeah. And I know we're not talking about cast ons, but still, and I will, and I will say this,

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I have not done it any other way besides the way she taught me. Um, only because when I was looking

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for it, I saw everybody going like with this and you need all these tools. And then I saw hers and

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it's like without all the tools. And I was like, Ooh, that that's what I want. Yes. That one. Um,

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as far as the other ones I've used, I have used the elastic bind off, which is a little less

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stretchy than Jenny's. Um, it basically doesn't use the yarn over, but otherwise that's actually

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a pretty decent easy one that gives you a decent amount of stretch. Um, not super crazy. Um, and

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then I have you, like, I know I didn't mind using a cabled bind off, but off the top of my head,

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I can't remember which project I use it on. I just remember when I did it, I had to look it up once

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and I'm like, Oh, okay. This isn't that bad. Um, I'd have to look it up again because I do not remember,

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but I remember when I was doing it, I was like, okay, it actually finished pretty fast. So I did

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like the cabled one. Um, I had to use a three needle one once and I hate it. I actually don't mind

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a three needle bind off. I have done a three needle bind off once. It was not my favorite.

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I just, I, I've made a lot of bags fair. When you make bags,

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knitted bags tend to have one of these somewhere. Um, and I just, I don't know, I get excited. I'm

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like, Ooh. And then I like, I know exactly which side is which maybe that's maybe when you're

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going at, you're like, you know, you got the one you're working with, you got the two that you're

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like, I'm ready to go. Let's go. Let's go. I don't mind the way it looks like the way it looks.

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It looks good. It does look good. I'll, I'll give it that. It looks good. I just don't like doing it.

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I don't like the underside where it has like a cliff. Yeah. Like when you're done with it.

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Oh yeah. Um, it has that kind of backside to it. And then if you're not doing it the right way that

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you could have put the backside on the wrong side. And then you're like, crap, I got to bind it off

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the other way. And then I've done that before. Um, but no, I, I don't know. I get really satisfied

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with the, I don't know. I'm like, yeah, we're going to like knit these two together with two needles.

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Sorry. I get excited. Hey, you know, listen, if you're listening to this and you're not excited

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about bind offs, you were in the wrong category. You know, it's a great bind off hat bind offs,

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where you just like thread through and pull it. That's a good one. Or you decrease down to like

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eight stitches and then you just yank it. That is my least favorite. Is it really? It is. But

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you like Kitchener. I love Kitchener. See that's funny. I'm not going to lie. Most of my hats have

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a Kitchener stitch at the top. You know what? I totally get why from someone who has designed

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many a hat. I, uh, the, you know, pull and call it. It doesn't, if you're, especially with super

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bulky, it just doesn't look thin. You just have this hole. Yeah. Sometimes I don't like the hole.

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Sometimes you can't pull it all the way closed and it like leaves like a slight hole. And I'm like,

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so that I hate. Yeah. And I will actually deliberately get down to as few stitches as

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possible before I do the pull through just to try to get rid of that. Which if, if it's not like

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certain patterns, if they're written like just the wrong way, can create this really awkward,

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like nipple looking thing on the top of your hat. So I find in those situations, a Kitchener is a

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really good way to kind of clean it up and just get it done. Yep. Most of my hats have a Kitchener.

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I believe that especially since you like Kitchener. I do like Kitchener. Yeah. My absolute favorite

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find off is crochet. You would one stitch, cut it, pull it through. You done. Then you just got to

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weave in the end. I cannot speak for Tunisian crochet because sometimes there's a lot of stitches

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on that, but for just your single, single loop crochet. Yeah. Shout out to the crocheters that

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had to wait 35 minutes. There isn't an extra day of binding off associated with the crochet.

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At the end of my project, I'm done.

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That must be really nice. That's nice. Just pull it through. So these are some of the

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bind offs that we like to use. We are just humble yarn enthusiasts and I would not consider us

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experts in any sense of the term other than, you know, we have been doing this for a long time,

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but I would not apply that term to us. So if these are some bind offs that you would like to check

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out, we will add a list to our blog for the ones that we have talked about today. So you can try

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out our favorites on your projects. And if you guys have a bind off that you prefer to use,

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make sure you find us on Instagram and comment on our episode post because we want to know.

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