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I'm Andrea. I'm Meg. I'm Tina. And I'm Jess. And this is Pardon My Stash.

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Welcome to Pardon My Stash, a podcast about knitting, fiber arts, and how awesome it is.

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Woo! Before we dive in today, let's talk about what we're working on, Andrea.

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Still plugging away on that arachne shawl by Claire Slade slash Verily Knits. I am using

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Flies and Hellhounds in Penny in Flower Moon and Nightmares plus 10. And I've fixed the mistake

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that I made last week. And I am into the color change. Still enjoying it? Yeah, it's pretty good.

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Awesome. I'm glad you were able to fix the issue with the jag, with the, what is it, the jag?

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With the zigzags. Yeah, I had to go back like six rows. It was a pain. Were you able to

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ladder back or did you have to? No. Because it's color work, so everything shifted one stitch

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over. So I had to fix all of them. That's brutal. Brutal. Tina? Today I'm working on what will

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eventually be the complement to the high vis cowl, which is the high vis beanie. And so I'm making

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something, it's fake brioche. So I'm doing with color work, knit and purls, but with the colors

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so that it actually kind of looks like flat brioche. I didn't learn that from anywhere. I just

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thought in my head, I was like, I bet you that'll look like flat brioche if I do it that way.

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So I figured I would try it out. And I actually really like how it's coming out. It's like making

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me very happy. Yeah, it looks really good. If you didn't tell me it wasn't brioche, I wouldn't

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know it wasn't brioche. No, it's not. Yeah. It looks like it though. It looks like it. Oh,

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hey, yay. Thank you. So that's the goal is that it looks like it. It does have,

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as I'm doing it, there's definitely some, I want to change this down here where the color changes

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for the orange and the yellow. I want that to be a knit stitch instead of a purl so you don't see

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the yellow in the front. But other than that, I really like how it's coming out. And I showed Pat

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and he's all excited because it's very, very flat, which he needs to have this fit under his hard

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hat, which is why I'm not doing actual brioche. I was just going to ask, is there a reason why

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you chose not to do brioche? That's a fair point. Yeah, brioche does have that little texture.

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Yes. So this is in, I'm doing the high vis cowl is done in a bulky weight and this,

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this hat is being done in a DK weight. And, and again, it flat instead of with brioche. So that

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when he puts it on, it's like almost like a skull cap because he needs it that tight to go under

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his hard hat. So it's all safety. It's all part of my construction line. I'm doing a, what is it?

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Under construction. Under construction. Oh my God. Yes. No perfection needs nothing more.

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Well, you tell me somebody else has done a construction line and I will say, I believe that

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there's probably eventually that's when you have to like do it in a yarn that has like a sparkle to

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it and be like, it's reflector tape. Yes, I will. Now I need to do that. Yes. The next will be the

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the next will be the high vis vest. Okay. Knitted vest that looks like an actual like an orange and

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so really make a statement and I will make Pat wear it and he will, he'll do it with a grumpy face,

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but he will wear it. Jess, I finished my between the dragon and his wrap. And so now I had no more

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excuse not to do the math on the Dijs vest. So I did the math on the Dijs vest and now I am plugging

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away on that. Josie Paquin did the Dijs vest. I like the way it's looking. Not going to lie. I hate

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the directions. The directions are driving me up a wall. I find them confusing. I don't know if I'm

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the only one because nobody has comments in the thing saying that anyone else had trouble with it.

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So maybe it's just me, but I am just, I am having trouble with the directions, but the vest itself

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and the charts are all really well done. It's just the directions that lead you to the charts that

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are to me kind of worded oddly. So, but yeah, otherwise I'm at a part now where I think it

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should be knock on wood, smoother sailing. And hopefully I don't have to do any more like crazy

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math because when I get to the next pattern part, they're like, yeah, just repeat the pattern until

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it's this long instead of repeat the pattern like 18 times in these four sections, which I'm like,

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Oh God, what's four times 18 plus four. Where in the chart am I? Well, then it's like, I'm halfway

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through the chart and I'm like, is that right? Am I at the right part in the chart? Because I won't

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know until two directions later on when I find out it's wrong and that'll be awful. So tell us how

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you really feel about this pattern. The way it's going, she has been every night for about two

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weeks. Sorry. I have heard it all chapter and verse. Again, it's not, it's not terrible. It seems like

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anyone else has really done it has many comments on it. So it's probably just a me thing, but

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if you're going to do this pattern, read the directions first and make sure you map it out

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beforehand before you're like me get to an error, like why math and then take a hiatus and do color

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work for a month instead. That's where I'm at. Where are you at? So I don't even want to like say

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it out loud at this point. By some miracle, this project has stuck in my struggle. Yeah, you're

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like plowing through. I am, I am, I don't want to rub salt in your wound of mapping. But the pattern

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tells me that as of my last row, I'm exactly 20% done with this project. Okay. Yours even gives

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percentages. It does. It gives percentages. It tells you how far you are into the project,

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which I really love. But I am working on the impressionists shawl by Helen Stewart. I really

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like it so far. I mean, it's, it's kind of one of those projects where it's not super difficult.

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It's a lot of garter, but it does have like every so often a little bit of a shake up to it. And the

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way that the colors meld is actually really cool because it looks like I'm knitting it from one,

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one color way and I'm not, I'm actually using two different color ways and I'm knitting it out of

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some really gorgeous yarn by Ash and Bumble. They're meadow fingering in water lilies

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and English garden. And the third color is going to be, it's called mallow flower and it's like a

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burgundy. It's going to look, I think it's going to look really pretty when it's done.

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But I am enjoying it. It's like just enough to like, I'm not bored while I'm watching TV,

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but it's not driving me up a wall. So, and you know, right now that's kind of what I needed.

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It's, it's working for me. Look, I'm just saying after this one, I got another color work plan. So

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I'm just like, it's going to be done. Yes. Be sure to check out our website, pardon my stash.com for

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more information, as well as pictures of our current projects, patterns, and yarns.

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So before we launch into today's topic, we wanted to kind of make a statement

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regarding sponsorship. As some of you may know, we had a membership program for about a year and a

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half that we chose to end, not really chose to end even, that's not even the right words, but we had

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to end in around January, February of this year, just due to scheduling conflicts and just not

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being able to fulfill our end of the membership, just mainly again, due to scheduling. Over the

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past two years, we have had numerous offers from different companies to sponsor the podcast,

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none of which we were very comfortable with, mainly due to requests of exclusivity. And that

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is something that we did not feel we could keep up our end of the bargain. We've been committed

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since we started to authenticity. We don't promote products that we don't believe in.

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We don't promote patterns or merchandise that we ourselves don't use. And we also, as very diverse

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crafters, we knit, crochet, craft with a variety of different products. And none of us really liked

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the idea of being tied down to one brand. So we had on our website, we had chosen to not take on

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sponsorships specifically for that reason. Shortly after we terminated our membership,

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we were approached by Jimmy Beans Wool with a sponsorship offer that we were in talks with the

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representatives for a few weeks to discuss the terms of, and over time we agreed to partner with

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Jimmy Beans Wool, mainly due to the fact that they were so flexible with our feelings of being

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authentic. They have been very receptive to our being upfront of wanting to only promote or talk

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about items that we use and that we feel good promoting. They didn't want us to be dishonest.

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They also actually said that they would also appreciate if we didn't like a product to be

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honest about that as well, or what we would think. They were looking for the constructive criticism

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as well. They felt like it would only enhance their products because it would give them a

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direction for where to go with them. Right. So after several weeks of talking back and forth,

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we signed the agreement to be sponsored by Jimmy Beans Wool. We're really excited about it.

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I'm applauding. We really are.

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Because it really is something that, again, we have been approached by a lot of different folks,

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companies big and small, and it actually felt like we were talking with friends,

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compadres when we were talking with Jimmy Beans.

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Seemed to be on the same page.

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Yeah. It just felt like a really good fit for the podcast.

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So there's where we're at. But we wanted to be upfront with you because we have for so long

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maintained this. We don't take sponsorships. We don't do advertising because we want to feel

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good about the relationship we have with sponsors. We don't want to use or promote products that we

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ourselves don't feel good promoting. So what does that mean for the podcast?

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Basically, it just means that you may hear us talking about products from Jimmy Beans Wool.

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In the future, you might hear us talk about giving reviews of different products that we might receive

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from Jimmy Beans to check out and see how we feel about them.

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If we like them, if we don't like them.

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Yeah.

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You will get honesty.

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Oh yeah.

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If you listen to my talking about the pattern like two minutes ago, you're still getting that honesty.

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That's not changing.

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No, we are committed to being super authentic.

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Yeah. So, but we are very excited about it. We're looking forward to working with them.

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And I think the biggest thing is that with this, we don't have to worry about not being able to

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afford to run the podcast because in case you didn't know, operating costs do exist when you

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have a podcast. You have to host the files. We have our website that we host. There's work that's

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attributed and software that's attributed that we have to pay licensing for to edit the episodes

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and get those things up. Because laws.

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Because yeah, legal, legal, legal. Capitalism.

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So it's really nice to just feel like we can continue to operate this podcast with the best

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of intentions and not have to worry too much about how we go pay those bills.

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Definitely.

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I don't know honestly though, like I did, like I said, check out the website and they do have cool

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stuff. So I am excited about seeing some cool stuff.

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You can find more information about Jimmy Beans Wool at jimmybeanswool.com.

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So tonight we're going to talk about expressing yourself. I just really want to play Madonna

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right now. Yeah. Like Madonna. All of us have talked at various times about how we use crafting

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as a means of self-expression. Tonight we're going to kind of dive into how does our crafting,

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like the choices that we make, how do those things reflect who we are? Kind of be a little

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bit introspective and hopefully create some sort of mindfulness in you, the listener.

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How does your crafting reflect how you express yourself?

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And how is it doing it? And you didn't even realize until now.

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Yeah. I feel like a lot of the times we do, we kind of go down a path and we don't even

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realize we're doing it. Like for example, I didn't realize I knit with blue yarn all the time until

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Tina was like, do you maybe think you could pick a different color when we went to the wet?

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Seriously. No, I really didn't. No, I really did not realize that that was.

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No, you don't.

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Excuse you. Neither of the sweaters that, okay, no, one of them has blue. I've knit three sweaters.

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Only one of them has blue. All right. All right. All right. Anyway, enough about me. What do you

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think? Sorry, I just got caught up because I was like, but one of them was purple and technically

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you needed blue to make it. Oh, shut up. You're all mean.

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Dude, no, mine 90% of the time is dragons related. It's probably higher than that, but I'm getting

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the shock. And if it's not that, then it's probably fantasy inspired of some kind anyways.

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You say that like you have dragons all around your house or something. Like that's not even

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not even a thing. I have a question. I have a statement. The first I'm going to say is

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the statement because I don't want to get like too far off course. But when I took, I took that

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picture of your, between the dragon and his rap and I sent it to my friend Mary to show her.

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And her response was that is so Jess and she's never met you in person. But like that was,

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that was the response was that is so Jess. Why the dragons? I like dragons. Well, yes, but why?

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Like where did that start? Where does that come from? You know, I don't know. I have just always

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liked dragons. Like dragons are awesome. I need, I say more. Dragons are cool.

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That's it. I really don't know where it started. Like where the, where the obsession really started.

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I mean, I remember the first movie where I was finally like, yes, that is the dragon. I always

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envisioned. And that was Dragon Heart because before then I was always like, why do they make

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the dragons look so stupid? Like I knew what a dragon looked like. Dragon Heart is a magical

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movie. It really is. And for being such, you know, old school kind of bad, horribly CGI,

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holds up. Okay. Well, cause it has a timeless storyline and the soundtrack slaps. Yeah. The

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soundtrack, they use it for everything guys. Like it's in all the movie like trailers. They use

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Dragon Heart music because it's awesome. Um, no, but I've always loved dragons and that's carried

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over into my love of fantasy and D and D and all that sort of stuff as well. Yeah. I like everything

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I have is somewhat dragon related or fancy related or like, I'm like, oh, look, this looks like

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scales. I'm going to do that. Or this is how I be. It's just an aesthetic. Look, my vest is made in

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the color leather because it's like a leather vest. And then I can feel like I have armor on. I was

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going to say that's pretty sedate for you. Like both the pattern and the, and the yarn, but it's

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a leather vest. Pretty sedate. Yeah. I didn't think about that. Yeah. See I did.

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But yeah, if anyone has that's yeah. Dragon Heart, look up that dragon. That was my first,

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like, yes, that is what a dragon should look like because everything before then I would get,

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I mean, okay. The sleeping beauty dragon was pretty boss, but it was only on screen for like

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20 seconds and it got taken out in a stupid way. And, and I just felt like that should have been

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a bigger battle. Um, I was, I was kind of disappointed. He's Prince charming. He didn't

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even do it himself though. The fairies did. He just like held the sword up and they are like,

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yeah, we're going to make it. And I was like, no, you what? No, that's you could have at least

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thrown it yourself. No. Right. The muscles are for show. Right. I mean, to be fair, if you look at

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it, he actually didn't really have any muscles either. So I mean, we're going to go there.

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Nah, you know, Prince Philip, as far as some of the princes go is actually one of the better ones,

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but still a very disappointing dragon battle. I have a visual of just Prince Philip being like

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the, like the weakest of all the princes in the Disney prince prince charming from Snow White.

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Like he's just pointless. Like he's just, he doesn't do any, we've gone a little off the

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rails just a titch off the rails. Just saying. Just a titch. Still Snow White Prince. You suck.

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Oh my God. I mean, like I thought about this, um, since you brought it up and I,

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I don't know if I have a distinct style, but I will say the majority of the things I make

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are inspired for other people. I noticed that like when I make stuff, a lot of the times I'm

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making them because I want it to be helpful for somebody else. I very, very, very rarely

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make something for myself. I always like make stuff and then I give it away or I hand it off

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or I like hand it off to some, like it just never stays with me. I need to do that more.

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I have way too many knits that I just don't use. Yeah. And I have the opposite problem.

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I've knit all these cool things and like, Oh, I knit this. And like people are like,

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wow, you've knit stuff. And I'm like, yeah. And they're like, what's something you've knit.

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And I'm like, I got this hat. That's all like, I swear I've made more things.

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I swear I've made more stuff than hats. Um, because you're just messaging, send me a picture

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of the thing I gave you. I have kept, um, two of my shawls, but now I use them as wall decor.

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So I can't wear them. They're art. Yeah. So I'm like, okay, cool. So that's up on my wall.

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So now I've lost two shawls that I mean, you could wear them. I could just have to sacrifice

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your art. I know. I just, it looks so pretty on my wall and like those things. If you take it down,

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will it ever go back up the same way? I know. And like, and my little cow is hiding behind one of

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the shawls right now. And he looks so cute. Even like this hat that I'm making right now is like,

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this is for Pat. It's not for me. I'm making this and then I'm going to release the pattern because

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it's all because his cowl is for him too. And yeah, right. Cause that started with him wanting

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something that could be seen, right? Also keep him warm. Yeah. During the winter months, really

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bright colors and made something simple and cushy. Yeah. And, and it's also like, I don't feel like

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as bad if like, cause like his high viscall at this point has like seen better days, but I'm

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okay with it. Like I'm actually okay with it because that means that he's been using it. He has

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definitely been using it. Um, and I'm sure this beanie will see the same kind of use. I mean,

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construction ain't clean folks. Yeah. I've been like, I'm trying to think if there's like, I,

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I definitely gra see yarn collecting. I gravitate towards a specific color. Cause like, if you go

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through my stash, I definitely have a lot of, a lot of like teals and like sea greens, but then

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I also have a lot of like purpley pinks, which is ironic because I've almost never knit with purpley

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pinks. Like I do, but like it's usually like, if it's for the kids or something like that, but I

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don't like, I don't know. It's strange. I definitely have like a range of colors in the stash, but

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there's definitely a hint of like, okay, she's really into teal and like sea green and like,

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you know, like a minty kind of color, all those kind of in-betweens between green and blue.

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And then like good color and then just randomly purple. Sometimes it just hits you. Yeah. Like

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I, and there's no reason for it. The color just hits you and you're like, I need that. Yeah.

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Listen, I love me some jewel tones. Yeah. And I just, no, not for me. I can't say it's dragon

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based for me. Um, I can't even think, I'm trying to think of like a theme and honestly I've knit

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so many random things. It's like, I I've done hats, I've done sweaters, I've done shawls,

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I've done scarves and cows and mitts. And I think the only thing I really haven't done is like

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pants, but I don't think I will ever do. I feel like knit pants are just, I mean, I've seen people

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do them, but I like, I look at that and like, I, I already feel myself sweating. Yeah, no, like I,

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I do. I see people knit, do knit pants and I think they look really good on them, but I would never

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want them on me. Yeah. Pants are also, um, like, and I don't know, maybe I'm the only one that gets

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to experience this joy every so often, but if you wear them often, they wear out. Yes. In the thighs.

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Yup. And I mean, that's one of the reasons I stopped wanting to knit socks because they wear out.

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Good old thigh. And as much as I like to wear my knits, I don't like to wear my knits to death.

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Yeah. Like I feel like I would have to make knit pants and then put just a piece of leather in

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between the thighs to stop the, to stop the chaplers. Just to reinforce. So that's, that's another,

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and I know like some people are like, no, that's the best part about socks is then you get to,

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you get to just make more of them. Um, but what if I don't want to, but that's kind of, yeah,

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I'm like, I don't like holes. I just have like 10 pairs and I rotate. Yeah. So they'll, they'll all

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last for a long time. If you have more than I have a confession. I made a hole in your sock

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that you made me. Do you want me to fix it? No, I have it in a pile and I'm going to fix it.

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I'm just sad because I wear them a lot. But that's well, see, here's the thing.

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I'm pretty sure I still have the remnant yarn for that. Oh, do you? So do you want me to fix it?

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Kind of. It's a really bad hole though. Whatever. I'll fix it. Okay. Why is it really bad? It's large.

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Well, means that you wore them. I thought I could get away. I was like, Oh look, there's a hole

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starting. I should be okay. And then like the end of the day came and I went, Oh no, that was a bad

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idea. It's on the bottom, like on the sole. Oh yeah. I can fix that. Yeah. Well, yeah. That,

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that at least, you know, I wore out, literally wore out your socks. That's good though. I love them.

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I'm glad that you like them that much. I did. I do. I still do. I just, I just can't wear them

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currently because we have a giant hole in the foot, but yeah, no, I mean back to like, I don't know,

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like my style. I don't know. I'm having a hard time with it. Like, I feel like it's just like for

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others and I don't know if that's a good thing. So it sounds more like you're motivated by need

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or necessity. Yes. Like this person is having a baby. They need a blanket. I'm going to make

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the blanket. My husband needs a cowl. I'm going to knit that. My daughter wants a sweater. That's

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not maybe not necessarily a need, but if you haven't like this past summer, when you finished

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the one for your youngest, she didn't have a sweater. So to an extent it's like, you can't

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really knit one child a sweater and not knit the other one a sweater. So it is kind of a need.

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If you think about it. Oh, and they wear their sweaters. They really do. They love wearing

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their sweaters. So it sounds like a lot of this is motivated by like you, you like to do things for

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other people provide, which could be a good and a bad thing. It could be. It's a good thing.

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Cause it's like, yay. I do stuff for other people, but it's a bad thing because I never do stuff for

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myself. I already hear my therapist yelling at me. So I'm like, I'm just, maybe you need to take

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shout out, shout out to Brittany and be like, listen, I need to provide something for myself.

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Yes. And that is a need. This is my separate separate. It'd be like, I have to make this for

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Tina and then make something for Tina and then give it to her and then open your own.

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Oh, that's a good idea. Yeah. Okay. I have to think of yourself as a different person.

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Trick your own brain sometimes. Yeah. That's what I'm going to do. Okay. Well,

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thank you for this therapy session on to Drea.

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I don't think I really have a yarn style either. Cause I don't, I don't, I don't typically knit in

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the same, in the same color scheme. Could I offer a suggestion? Yeah. If I had to pick something for

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you, it would be texture. Yeah. You really like like lacing cables and like anything that gives

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like definition to the piece. Squish. I don't see Drea knitting like straight up stock net for years

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and years and years and years. Like it's just too boring for you. Like you always have to have some

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kind of design element in it. It's true. It's true. I do love my cables. Um, so I want to say that I,

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I choose yarn based on what's going to hold up to the, to the style that I, that I knit in. Yeah.

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Right. So if you're knitting with cables, you want something that's going to pop. Yeah. Not

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something that's going to flatten out. And as for colors, I'm pretty sure, um, when I'm at the store,

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one, I never buy yarn with a project in mind. Fair. I never do that. Totally fair. I need to

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start doing that, but I probably will never do that. You've done it a couple of times.

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Like at Ryan Beck, you've been like, this is going to be a hat for Frank. Oh, that's because Frank was

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with me and said, this is going to be my hat. Okay. So when other people request something,

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yeah, then it's okay. Yes. Gotcha. It's like when I go to the grocery store with Frank,

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he goes, he goes with a list and that is all we're allowed to buy. Oh no. Oh yeah. No, I can't do

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that. You know what? I love it because that means that I'm not buying stuff I don't need.

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That's fair. I love that. If we're going to the store to buy chicken and a vegetable and like

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potatoes, that is all we will leave with. I love how Frank shops for groceries the way my dad used

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to Christmas shop. He would like go into the mall and be like, we're going to this store. We're going

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to buy this one thing and then we're getting the hell out of here. We're going nowhere else.

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No, I'm not even going to look at anything else. That's hilarious. But buying yarn specifically

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for a hat for Frank. And let me tell you, I had no pattern for Frank, but he said, these are the

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yarns that you're going to use. And I was like, great. Thank you. I'm pretty sure he bought that

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yarn for me too. I'm pretty sure he did. I'm going to buy my hat. This is for Frank. Yeah. I also

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bought with intention the yarn for the Celtic Myths shawl. Yes, we all did. Yep. And I think

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those are the only two that I purchased. Oh yeah. With the pattern in mind. It's kind of impressive.

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Yeah, that feels about right. But usually when I'm at the store and I'm buying yarn, what I'll do is,

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and I've noticed that I do this, I will buy colors based on my mood.

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So if I'm in a happier mood or feeling upbeat or good about myself, I'll buy brighter colors.

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And if I'm feeling kind of sad or down, I'll buy more muted colors. That's a good observation.

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Yeah. So I have a very good mix of colors in my stash. I don't drift towards one color or another.

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It's literally whatever it is that I'm feeling, that's what I'm buying.

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That's fair. I like that for me though. That's fair. It gives you variety. Yeah. Because I also

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think that when I'm ready to start knitting with whatever that color is or whatever that yarn is,

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I'm going to pick that yarn based on my mood again. So I'm planning ahead kind of.

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That's what I'm going to tell myself. Meg?

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So I usually buy, I do the opposite. I usually try to, like, if I look at a yarn and I'm like,

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oh, I really love that, I will run through my head, but what will I make with that?

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Like, what am I going to do? And I try not to buy yarn unless I can actually envision.

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It may not need to be like, I'm going to knit this exact pattern, but I at least want to be like,

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that's going to be a shawl, that's going to be a sweater, this is going to be a cabled scarf.

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Like, there's going to be some objective there. I never, or I shouldn't say never, I rarely

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knit with warm toned yarns. Almost every single thing I knit is in a cool tone. Those are just

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the colors I gravitate towards. I don't know if it's because I don't look good in warm tones.

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I definitely look better in cool tones. That's just my shade. It's not always blues, but I do

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gravitate a lot towards greens, turquoises. If it is like a pink, it's going to be like a cool

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toned pink, not a bright flamboyant pink. And again, I'm not sure why. I think it's just my taste.

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One thing that I have discovered about myself over time, and this is kind of sad,

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as a marketing tool, if you put a bird on it, I will buy it.

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It's fair. No seriously.

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Especially if it's a barn owl.

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It's really bad. No.

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So what you're saying is if somebody starts an Indie Dye company and it's like a bird name,

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you're going to buy all the yarn?

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Oh God, no, it's really bad. So the only yarn-

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Heads up, Indie Dyers.

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I know, I know. This is my secret. My secret.

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But I will be your band.

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Achilles heel. Jess will stop me. Back when I had no stash, that was what got me buying Ash

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and Bumble. She's like, oh, this is like my bird of the month club. And I was like, well sold.

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I will buy all of those. And I did. I ended up getting like six skeins. I did it for six

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months and I was so sad when she stopped doing that particular collection. It was just for one year.

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But it was, it was like, they were all inspired by different birds. She even put the birds on

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the labels of the yarn. And it's like, oh God, sold. And even then I'd get the colors home and

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I'm like, I'm not quite sure what I'm going to do with this, but it has a mallard on it.

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So I need it.

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So clearly it's really sad, but it's the same thing we went to. Um, we went to CT fiber fest

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this past week and we went to, um, stitched by Jess, a loose booth. And we've spoken about her

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before. We all have bags from her multiple bags. Um, and Jess was super excited because she finally

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got a, uh, D and D bag. Yay. Yay. Congratulations.

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It's got roving. So now three people at this table have them. And I had just bought a big

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bag with barn owls on it from her, um, back at Reinbeck. I bought a, another bag that had owls

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on it back in, Oh God, February, two years ago at, um, circle of stitches in Salem.

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And we're walking through her booth and there's yet another bag with owls on it. And I was like,

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but how many do I need? Apparently one more because it's sitting about an inch from my right hand at

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this moment in time. And she now knows my Achilles heel. So she's probably going to keep making more

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owl bags, probably not just for my benefit, but I'll probably keep buying them. It's really sad.

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I don't know what it is. Birds are just my thing, which is hilarious. Cause again, that one's got

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like the death head malls. Oh no, I love this one. It's got some skulls and you hate skulls. I don't

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like skulls on it. So that bypass. Yeah. But death said moths are cool. They are cool. Okay. Like

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they're cool. Arguably cool. And I like green. So it's, it's neat, but yeah, it's, I don't know.

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It's just a thing. The only thing I bought at, um, the Connecticut fiber fast was a little ceramic

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frog that had an air plant in the head. You have a thing for frogs though. I do, but it's gotta be a

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cool frog. Yeah. None of those loser. Not a, not a dumb frog. Like it's gotta be a cool frog.

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Or it's gotta be a noise maker. I feel like if it was slightly dumb, but also a noise maker that

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would bypass the slightly dumb. Yeah. You have to think about it. I keep hinting to Frank that I

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want one of those really big frogs that make the noise with the stick, the bullfrog. Yeah. I want

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the big one. Like I've got one that's like little mini. And then I have like an actual like bullfrog

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size one, you know, like, like, like a real bullfrog, but I want the one that's like stupid,

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huge, like this big. I want the big honker and he's not picking up what you're throwing down.

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He's not. I keep hinting at it. I don't think he listens to the podcast though.

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Cause sad news for me. Oh God. Frank, if you listen to you, there you go. It's just felled out for you.

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To be fair though, dragons, frogs, owls. And for me it's either chickens or octopi. Pineapples.

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You have a lot of pineapple stuff. Oh, I like pineapple. Yeah. I mean, we're talking about

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creatures, so pineapples aren't animals. I wasn't even thinking about animals. I was just more

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thinking about like aesthetic. What's your general aesthetic? What's all over your house? Oh, for me

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all over my house is definitely like llamas and alpacas. The frogs are only in the bathroom and

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they definitely have like their little area. Wait, the musical frogs are in the bathroom. Oh yeah.

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That's what if you get bored, I am providing entertainment for people who are visiting the

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restroom. I have an affinity for farm animals. So I have a giant cow in my office. Chickens all

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over your kitchen. I have chickens all over my kitchens. My galinies are very necessary in my

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kitchen. Just throw on some pork cheese out there for you. Um, and yeah, that's a really pretty word

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for chicken. Galenia. Yeah. Yeah. It's pretty. It's yeah. No, but I also like, I also have like

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little piggies and like, I do. I like farm animals, but I also like, I mean, basically if you just take

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a Portuguese person and then ask them all of the animals that they like to eat, that's basically

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all the animals that I like to have in my house. I have octopus. I have little squids. I have

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chicken and cows and pigs. Yeah. All the important ones. The lambs. Just like all the things that we

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eat. It's just, yeah, that's, that's pretty much, it's yeah. That's now that I think about it that

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way. I am a terribly sadistic person. I need help. No, that's fine. I like to collect the, uh, the

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figurines of the things I eat. When you put it that way, it's only the maniacal lap that really

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like. So slightly pivoting in topic. Um, what about like moving away from color or aesthetic?

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Um, what about the way in which you craft, like the way, either the techniques that you use or

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the types of projects you gravitate towards, or even when you go to pick a pattern or seeking

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something out, how does that reflect your self expression? I would say when it comes to pattern

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buying in the beginning, it was very utilitarian. So if I needed to make a bit like how we were

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talking before, if I needed to make a baby blanket for somebody because it was gift, I was looking

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for something that was practical that they could use with their child. So I'm just looking for like

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just very utilitarian nowadays. If I, especially if I'm going to buy a pattern, I am very like,

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I'm looking through the comments. I'm like checking the reviews. I'm looking at how they rated it.

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It's like, I want to make sure that it's like, it's, it's a decent pattern, but I think

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stylistically, I really like, um, patterns that look, um, more complicated than they actually are.

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I love those patterns. Those are my favorite. Make me look impressive. Like this arachnishol is,

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is definitely a favorite pattern now because it looks way more complicated. It does. And,

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but honestly, when you get into it, it's really a very basic kind of technique of pulls that you

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don't like of just kind of carrying stitches that create, create this effect. So, um, but it's,

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but it's actually like, and it's satisfying because then you look at it and you're like, wow,

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I made this really complicated looking thing and it's a very simplistic pattern. Um, the hard part

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with that is that you really don't know if a pattern is like that until you really get into it.

389
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Yeah, that's fair. So, um, I mean, we picked this one based on the way that it looked.

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Yeah. We really didn't do too much research into the pattern itself when we got it. So I really

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think that we've looked up. Yeah, we definitely did. We absolutely did. But like I'm doing,

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I'm doing a gift for somebody else and I picked it out because I wanted something that had a

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reference to dogs and like, it also has like a heart reference on it. And I really like that,

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but the pattern drives me crazy. And the only reason why it drives me crazy is that the way it's,

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first of all, there's no chart, which drives me crazy. Um, I, there's, I don't always want a

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chart, but especially when there's lace, it's really so much easier to read when there's a chart.

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I just have a really hard time. It's easier to visualize what the pattern is. All those letters

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and numbers and combinations. It can get really dizzying looking at a written pattern. But I don't,

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I like the arachne. I don't mind reading the written. It's actually easier for me to read

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the written with that, but there's no like lace in that. So it's easier to follow. So like,

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it's just 36 rows of like, and there's, and there's really no continuity either. Like there's some,

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there's a little bit of continuity towards the end of the repeat, but like basically every other row

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is something different. And I'm like, and like, I guess that would be more in Jess's realm of things

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because I know you think need things that are interesting. Well, I got the pattern for you.

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Cause my, cause this one is like, you definitely have to like keep checking it. Cause I'm just

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like, wait, which one am I on? I don't, and I have, I'm using my row counter app and you know,

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it's like keeping track of like how many times I've done the repeat and what row I am on in the

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repeat. Cause otherwise I am, I have no idea where I am. So, but yeah, I think I would,

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I prefer patterns that definitely look more fancy than they are. And, but are, are basically more

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simplistic. And I definitely don't go for stuff that is impractical to use, if that makes sense.

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So I'm not, if the finished product looks like it's a pain in the butt to carry around,

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or it's going to be a pain in the butt to take care of afterwards, I'm probably not going to make

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it unless it's like practical. It goes all back to that kind of practicality and like need. You

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want something that's going to be used and worn and not just kept on a shelf because the minute

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you put it on, it's going to fall apart. Yeah. Yeah. That makes sense. I mean, I'm right there

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with you. I much prefer having a pattern that's going to look like I put a lot more effort into

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it than what I actually did. Knitting is supposed to be relaxing for me. And if I can't, if I can't

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multitask, like if I can't put a TV show on or listen to an audio book or, you know, like do

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something secondary, that's not necessarily important, then I'm not going to do it.

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No, it's fair. I like repeating patterns. And yeah. And I definitely think with your repeats,

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you I'm just so stuck on texture with you because like almost every single thing you've made has had

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some kind of texture on it. Yeah. I much prefer having a texture to my fabric. It just looks cool.

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It's so much more fun to create the make sense. Sometimes it's interesting just to understand the

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puzzle of how that texture is made to. I can't tell you how much I love puzzles.

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Yeah. Now that I say that, I'm like, wait a second, wait a second. That tracks. I love puzzles.

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Give me a puzzle any day. Yeah. I like stuff that looks cool.

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Even if it's just to me. Dragons and cool. Yes. I like color work. No, but you also cannot do

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really, really simple stuff. I can if it's short, but if it only takes two minutes, I'll do it.

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Once, once you're getting into this is going to be a 30 day project and it's all the same. I'm like,

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I don't want it anymore. It's gotta be something kind of interesting or new or has some sort of

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pattern shift. Like I don't even necessarily care if it's something that's like, like, um,

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like the Morgana shawl was actually pretty simple, but it looked really cool. And you got the added

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benefit of adding a bead to it, which was blending the yarn. You were also blending the colors.

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I was more thinking about the sweater. You made your mom the rose hip sweater where it's like,

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yeah, there was, you had the color work. You had like rows of the body that were pretty boring,

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but then you had the corrugated ribbing, which was another cool element. That was really neat.

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Like the kind of spice it up and gave you something to look forward to on both the hem and the,

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and I got to die the yarn, which was and you died the yarn. So yeah, mostly fun because there's

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just gotta be some variety. The Addy didn't like me when I was trying to knit it up to give it

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the gradient and it like ate the last half of it. But by then I was too far gone. So I just made it

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work in the dye pot. Like, no, you feel gradient. Dang it. And it did. And it worked out. That was

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an ugly blank. It was an ugly blank. There were holes everywhere. It was so good in the first half

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and I got to the second half and it like threw one of the, and it just kept throwing it. And I was

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like, no, I've come too far. We're just, you're just going to be, you're just going to be,

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and I'm going to unravel you as soon as you're done. So I'm not fixing you now.

446
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And MagBirds, there really aren't any bird techniques. But there's the owl cable.

447
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Yeah. Yeah, that's true. That's true. I have, I actually have, if you look at my Ravelry library,

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I have a lot of like owl cables or owl color work saved. No, but I mean, I've got to, I tend,

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my knitting projects tend to fall into one of two categories. And they all have to do with my mood.

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Kind of like Dreya's yarn buying choices. I tend to be a person that likes to knit while I watch TV

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or listen to music or does something multitask. And with those projects, they tend to be like the

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one I'm working on right now, where I do have to pay attention, but not very much. You know, I have

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to pay attention towards the edges, but most of it is just knitting. So no big deal. The other flip

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side of that is there are some times when my brain does not shut off and it is just going,

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going, going a million miles an hour. And on those occasions, I'm like, I need something

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complicated for me, not necessarily complicated for everybody else, but complicated for me,

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where I have got to stop and think about this. And that can be a little bit complicated for me,

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this. And that can be every, anything from complicated cables to color work, something that is,

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is I cannot watch TV and, and knit with. I actually have to constantly pay attention to the pattern.

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And that happens at very, very specific times when I just cannot get my brain to shut off and

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I'll pull out something super complex. And it actually really helps. It calms me down a little

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bit. It gives me a sense of refocusing. And then nine times out of 10, I have a really pretty

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complicated looking project to show off when I'm done, which is, which is very nice. I want to say

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like the last time I did something that was like super complex like that was when I was recovering

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from surgery and I had the cell boo hat. Oh yeah. And it's complicated color work. And it was made

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more complicated because I was trying to color melt while I was doing it. Cause I was trying to

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make a gradient. So I had to pay attention to both the colors and the actual color work. And it really

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did help. Cause I wasn't feeling great. You know, my body hurt and I was anxious. I was anxious about

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missing work. I was anxious about my recovery rate and how things were going. Um, and that really

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helped. Cause I really couldn't think about anything else while I was doing it. Um, so that's how,

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that's where most of my projects tend to fall in either the very, very basic or the super complicated

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for me. That's where I'm at. I think it's good to have like a kind of a rotation though, so that

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if you need something less complicated, you have it. And if you need something more complicated,

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you also have it. Yeah. It's, I mean, right now I don't have that. I'm just knitting one thing,

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but it's, it is good to have it. That's, that's another reason why I have, and I'm kind of going

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off your reel from the other day where you're like, this is why I have so many projects all

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going at once. And I related to that so hard. Yes. Cause I, a lot of times like one project is,

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it does not fit all. Sometimes I need something more complicated. Sometimes I'm like, oh my God,

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if it's anything more than garter stitch, it's not happening today. Um, no, I cannot think about

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increasing or decreasing. I can't even think about picking up a cable needle. Like this is not

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happening. So sometimes it has to be something simple. And sometimes it's like, if I knit

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something boring, uh, my brain is just going to go flying off sideways and it's, it's just not

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going to happen. So yeah. And to, to answer the, uh, pointed question of what do I knit when I'm

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angry? Because that was the number one question. I'm not really, yes, it was when I was like,

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this is the one that I did when I'm angry and everyone's like, which one is that? And I'm like,

486
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it's super bulky. That makes so much sense. Yeah. Oh my God. No, really big needles that you're

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just stabbing stuff with and just super, you just need a nice big needle that you could stab stuff

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with. That's, that's all I need. And, and get a finished project really fast. Yes. So if you're

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feeling really, really crappy and then you just get this like really nice, like whatever it's

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usually, honestly, it's usually a super bulky hat of some kind. And I'm just cranking it out.

491
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No, I do that when I'm really sad on that, like a, a kid's hat and super bulky and it's like done

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in an hour and you're like, yes, I can, I can knit. No, it's, that's a good point.

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