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I'm Drea. I'm Meg. I'm Tina. And I'm Jess. And this is Pardon My Stash.

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Welcome back to Pardon My Stash, a podcast about knitting within the fiber arts and how awesome it is.

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Before we dive in today, let's talk about what we're working on, Tina. I am working on the

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arachne shawl by Verily Knits, the matchy make-along with Pardon My Stash, and I'm doing it with the

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lovely and incomparable Drea. And mine is being done with the main color of black

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and an accent color of orange. I had to rip out 20 rows. Nice. But you succeeded. I did succeed.

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Congratulations. I actually was victorious. I was surprised on how easily I was able to pick

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all my stitches back up. That is always such a wonderful surprise. Yeah. This isn't going to be

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as horrible as I think it's going to be. To be fair, it is a rather simple pattern as far as

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like color work patterns go. Yeah. And there's no like lace or anything that you're screwing up

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or anything like that. So it's, it was pretty easy to pick back up. I am using Ply's and Hellhounds

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Penny in the colorway Flower Moon and Nightmares. I will never remember that again.

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But you have it written down. So it's all good. No, I just did that off my ring. Oh, you did.

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Oh, your bag is like blocking. I can't see. So I thought you're good for you.

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It's them lobsters. Phenomenal. I only can do that once. Five stars. My whole life.

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This was the time. This was the time. You better be done by next time so you don't have to remember.

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You got a week. I feel like the logical step now is Dre. Yeah. Spidershall.

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Spidershall. Spidershall. Does I'm done. That went like nowhere. I didn't know where

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they go. What does a shawl do? It covers your shoulders and then fights crime. Does it? No.

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No. I mean, it could if you did. Frank would be so impressed. Stop holding your shawl back.

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I am also doing the Arachne shawl by Verily Nits, although the last several times that I have

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introduced it, I have just said that it's by Claire Slade, which is also true.

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Actually, I honestly, I was looking at like the little email in the corner of the copyright,

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and that's why I was saying Verily Nits. I could be wrong. I could be absolutely wrong.

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I feel like we're both right. I don't know. Yeah. We'll figure it out. I feel like it's not incorrect.

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But I am doing the same shawl as Tina, just inverse colors. So my main colors,

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orange and hers is black. Very nice. We're doing matchy inverse. Yeah.

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Yeah. Nice. Jess, I am working on the Dijvest. What? I think that's how you pronounce it.

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Yeah, I think it's French and I don't know French, but it's the IGE vest. I can pronounce vest.

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So there you go. So applause. Five stars. By Josie Pacqueen.

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And I looked up how to say the name and I probably did that wrong too, but I'm trying guys,

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okay? But it's a vest. And that's the one part I'm pronouncing correctly, guys. It's a vest.

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It's got cables on them right now. I'm just doing like eight million miles, i.e. nine and a half inches

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of stock in it. And you're going to make it. I'm almost there. I'm at like eight if I get

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stretched a little bit. So that counts, right? It totally counts. Stretch it too much. No.

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No. But and I'm doing it in critical hit dies leather in the base artificer.

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And yeah, just making it to these cables. And you have a confession. I do have a confession

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because I was also I was also working on the matchy make along and I just stopped finding joy

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in it. There was no joy. And then I was like, yeah, but the colors look really nice. And

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like the pattern is really pretty. So I was trucking along and then my stitch count went off.

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And I was like, I don't feel like fixing this at all. Like I just and so I actually frog did.

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And I have never I frog frog frog frog frog frog. I've frogged it. I have never frogged a project

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before. Usually I just bind it off and I'm like, look, now it's a hanker tip for cats.

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So I frogged it. And yeah, so it wasn't that terrible. And I was like, wow, I should do this

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in the future if I actually don't like a project. And again, there's nothing to say anything about

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like the pattern or anything like that. It was beautiful. It was looking really pretty in the

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colors. I just I was bored with it. It didn't spark any it didn't. It was like the same pattern

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over and over. And I was like, okay, I know where I'm going with this. I know what I'm doing. It

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keeps increasing, which means I'm doing it for longer. So and then like I said, I missed a

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stitch and I was like, yeah, I don't even feel like fixing it. And so yeah, I was like, I'm going

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to frog this. So now I have a new matchy make a long pattern that if you follow my Instagram,

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I'll post pictures soon because it's color work and I'm having a lot of fun with it,

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except for I want to add beads and they don't really make nice beads for worsted weight yarn.

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It's really hard to find what I want. So I'm just not going to beat it. And if I like it,

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I'll do it in a smaller weight and beat it. That's that's where I'm at. I went off on a huge tangent

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there. But man, what are you? So right now I am working on a second Kalibe sweater. Because I

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really did love the first one. It's a really good sweater project. Like I generally don't repeat

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projects unless I really, really like the pattern. And I really do like this pattern. But I also

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wanted to make a sweater that is a little more wearable. One of the things that I dislike about

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my Kalibe is that I did it with the original pattern, which is with a strand of mohair,

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which is great. It's super soft. It's also super warm. So there are very few venues in which I

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can wear it was perfect for Ryan Beck. It was perfect for Ryan Beck. It was just enough warmth.

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I cannot wear it to work. I cannot wear it anywhere that I'm going to be indoors. Because I just get

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so hot. So I'm doing a different version. I'm making this one out of Fiber Spades by ViciousDK

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in the colorway, Heavenly. I bought five skeins of this two years ago at a local yarn store when

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we were on vacation. And I love it. So I'm really excited to be working with it. It's super squishy.

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And I think it's going to be a lot cooler than using the mohair. So and I'm also I

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full confession. I also abandoned my make along project with Jess because we are making along.

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And I also was not getting a lot of joy sparked. And I know when there's no more joy because I

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stop working on it. Like I have no desire to pick it up. And I put off putting it. Oh no, she was

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like a whole color ahead of me on the shawl. And so then I was at work and I was, you know,

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having free time and messing around on Ravelry. And I started looking at color work because

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that was what I felt like doing. And I ended up sending Jess a pattern and she was like, well,

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that's what I'm doing. So I'm also doing a color work project. And I posted on my Ravelry yesterday.

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So we probably will not finish by the end of the make along. Probably will not happen.

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When's our deadline again? I don't know. Yes.

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September, man.

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We probably still won't be there.

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Is it really September?

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I thought it was June.

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Is it June?

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No. I don't know. Maybe.

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We're definitely not going to be done by.

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I don't, you know what though? I don't care. Like I really wasn't,

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at this point, it was more about doing something that we actually enjoyed rather than like

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doing, trucking through something that we were not enjoying. And at the end of the day,

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it's your hobby. It's supposed to be fun. And we did, we were sitting there one night kind of like

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talking each other off the ledge and being like, we don't have to do this. Like if we don't want

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to do it. And I'm like, if we have to tell each other this, this isn't fun.

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June 30th.

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All right. Well, we will not be finishing it before that.

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At all. And that's okay. We'll have started it. We have started it. So that's all good.

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A lot of people have finished though, by the way. And the ones that have sent me pictures,

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they look awesome. And we'll be like sending more stuff out in June. I might be guys. I don't know

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why I thought September. Yeah, but I think, I think I might, as long as I don't have any more

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like 20 row eff-ups, like I might actually make it. Yeah. Definitely. If my nerve pain stays

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under control, I might be able to finish. Yeah. I don't know. We'll see. It's all good.

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I feel like it doesn't need to nest. Like, I mean, the deadline is good. We have to end it

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sometime, but at the same time too. It's like, if you're enjoying the project, like,

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I don't see the point of pouring on the burn just to meet the deadline. I won't be. It doesn't

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make sense too. It just doesn't make sense. Like, do it at your pace. I mean, I can always change

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the deadline to September. I know we want to do a fall make-along. I'm going to do a hat for that

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one. I'm going to do something that can bang out in like a week. Oh, be sure to check out our website,

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pardonmystash.com for more information, as well as pictures regarding our current projects, patterns,

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and yarns. As we have discussed before, Tina loves Lord of the Rings. Oh, really?

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Two favorite, big facts. Her favorite. So, so, so, favorite movie. And so, we are going to talk

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tonight in honor of Tina's great love for Lord of the Rings. We're going to talk tonight about

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your crafting quest. Or should you say the fellowship of the string? Perfect. It was

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Meg's idea. It was not my idea. But you did the delivery better than I ever could. So, I'm really

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happy that you picked up what I threw down there. Well, you were eyeing me very aggressively. So,

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was I? I didn't mean to. No, no, no, no. In an aggressive sexual way. But I knew you were

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in sexually, I knew you weren't sexually coming for me. So, I figured I was reading that wrong.

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None of that, none of that is true. In three seconds I went, I think she wants me to say the

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thing. I'm going to say the thing. I really was sitting here like, I don't know where to go with

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that. Like, I started it and where do I go with it? And then you jumped on it and I was like,

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flawless. Okay, perfect. And then, and then we wrecked it with the discourse. But anyway,

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the fellowship of the string. So, everybody has their own kind of journey into becoming a fiber

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artist, becoming a crafter in some way. We also know, and we've talked extensively on this podcast

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about how there is no like baseline. There are no benchmarks that you have to hit. Everybody's

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experience as a crafter is different. Even the four of us at this table do not have the same

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experiences. We didn't get to where we are today in the same way. So, talking a little bit about

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where you start, where you've been, what you felt were like the benchmarks or spots on your quest,

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so to speak, where you felt like this is a big moment. This is a step. And obviously,

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that's different for everybody. And kind of where you see the quest going, if that makes sense.

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Where did you come from, Cotton Eye Joe?

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Oh, Lord, beautiful. Beautiful. So, it can be the fellowship of the string or it can be Cotton Eye Joe.

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We can go either way. Now, I'm just imagining, you know, those videos where somebody's doing

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Cotton Eye Joe and they're stomping on the cans. Like, I'm imagining that as you're stomping through

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Middle Earth. You can cut that out. No, no. If that's all I can think of. If that doesn't stay in the

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episode, it's a blooper. Something, it's something. So, I kind of think like, thinking back in terms

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of, you know, where you started. Where do you think was like the first moment where you were like,

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you know what, this, this is for me. This is where I belong. This craft is what I want to be doing.

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When did that hit you? I was making a Doctor Who scarf. I remember that scarf. I remember that.

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I know we've talked about it in the past, but like, that was, that was a project that I started.

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I loved it. I never finished it. It was Kevlar. It was, God, what size needles were you working with?

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I think it was like eights. Yeah. Yeah. They were not small needles. They were not small needles,

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but you came out as small stitches. Yeah, they did. You do knit tight. Not anymore. Well,

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tighter than you guys. Yeah. Like, not tight. No, we're like, look, my stitches slide. No, you're

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definitely, you're definitely a looser knitter than you should be. You did, you did courtesy rose

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on my shawl and it wasn't that bad because when I blocked it, I was able to block it out. So it

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wasn't, wasn't too far off. I tried real hard to knit loose for you. Thank you.

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So what about the Doctor Who scarf was like the, the moment? Oh my God, there was, so knitting for

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me is like a way for my brain to shut off. I just like, I disconnect my brain from my hands and my

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hands just go and then I don't have to think about anything. And it was garter stitch. It was repetitive.

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I didn't have to think about it. And I was like, yeah, this is it. This is my jam. And I'm still

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knitting today. Not that scarf, but you know what though, if you did say like, I'm still working

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on that scarf, knowing what Doctor Who scarves are like, I don't think anybody would be surprised.

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It tracks. It does. Yeah. They're so long they take that that's a labor of love. Like it's not

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like a difficulty labor of love, but it's a it's persistence. Yeah. It's a persistence labor of love.

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I didn't even find it off. I just know some things you just don't find off. I've saved the needles and

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not much else. Sometimes that's the way it be. I finally threw away the sock here and blanket

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this weekend. Oh, I did that a while ago. I finally know we were we were tossing the stash and I was

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like, I'm done. Like everything that is a remnant that we're not going to use is gone. Either it's

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it's getting donated or it's it's getting trashed. And I tore the needles all out and I'm like, it's

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just and it was actually quite freeing to not have like a ton of yarn in my in my house. That's

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like, well, someday I may use this. No, I'm not going to use it. Like, let's be honest. I buy too

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much yarn at this point to be like, let me go through the whole stash and see what I can knit

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this with a similar yarn in the future. I'm sure I can buy it or find it. It's it's fine. Sorry,

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I'm counting. Okay, you good. You good. That is I'm counting to three, which is very difficult for

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me. So I had to go 123. I'm sorry, that's literally what I was doing. And I realized I was like,

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I just said I was counting and I was literally counting to three. I'm proud of you. Thank you.

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Anyway, Lord, you introduced I think Dre and I learned on the same night, Meg,

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the new introduced us to knitting. That was the night. And at the time I was fully in the

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throes of alternative fashion. So I was in the throes of that. And I think I think it really,

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I didn't know it at the time. But so I think the reason why I got into the entire idea of knitting

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as a whole is because it's a textile. And I think that's what I've realized lately is that

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everything that I've been into has been some kind of fabric, textile, fashion, something wearable.

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I had two aha moments. One was when I got to North Carolina and I realized why gauge is important.

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That's a revolutionary moment. If you have a pattern that says you should use DK and not super

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bulky, you should probably listen to it. I don't know why I think it's because I was wow. I think

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it was because I was doing like scarves. So I thought like, Oh, like if I saw a pattern, that's

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fair. That's fair. And I saw a pattern and I was like, Oh, well, I have this year. I didn't care

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about weight. I was like, Oh, I want to use this yarn. And then like, no, there was a difference.

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No, that's fair. So there was that one where I felt like I actually like knew to a degree what I was

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doing. The second aha was probably when I honestly, and it's recent, it's when I switched to Portuguese.

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And it's just because like, all of a sudden I was like, I feel really confident in my knitting,

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because like, I feel like with English, it wasn't like as natural for me, like the throwing really

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hurt my hands and it wasn't. But now when I'm doing it, Portuguese style, it's like, Oh, wait a

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second. And, you know, and all of a sudden, like, I feel like, Oh, wait, like I've always been meant

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to do this. The Portuguese in me is is running towards the Portuguese knitting like, Oh, here we

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go. Like, and it's been really great to just like reconnect with my roots and like where I've come

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from. And, you know, all these different like, twice and like different things that like my

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family has made that like now I can actually look at it and go away. I could make that I could figure

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that out. Like, that's so cool. But yeah, those are my aha moments. Yeah. I know I always like kept

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my knitting up from when I was younger, just because I never knew when I, you know, want to make another

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main for a dragon. And it was good to have the knowledge of how to do that. Don't at me.

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But I think the moment where I was like, Oh, man, I should actually look more into this knitting wise

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was when I made a friend a hat. And I made up my own color work for it with with the Norse runes.

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out that color work was really fun. Yeah. And I've actually I've come back to that and I've gotten

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better at color work. And now I like doing the the two strand version of it. Whereas I used to hold

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both colors in one hand. Now I like can do what is it continental style if I'm doing color work.

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I'm still my tension is not great when I but I kind of want to learn continental style all the

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time because I do go faster with it. The crochet one was when I found out I can make like little

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animals. And I made a Magikarp that turned into a Geridib. I mean, that was pretty.

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I was like, This is awesome. And then yeah, so I my crochet is mostly like animals and I'm a

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Garumi and stuff like not gonna lie. I don't normally do crochet like other accessories or

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clothing or whatnot. But but yeah, so those are my like, Hey, I want to keep this up. And I actually

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want to look up patterns rather than I'm just gonna throw together our garter stitch slash

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stockinette thing for a use that probably isn't like the norm for anything. It's it's going to be

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some sort of tack on for something else. And now I'm like, Oh, hey, I can actually like do other

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things. I bet you could do garments and stuff with crochet though if you wanted to. If I wanted to,

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I probably could. I'm just because I have like zero like honestly real experience with crochet,

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like everything I've done is just been winging it. And I was able to like fumble around and do that

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little bunny sweater for that stuff bunny for my daughter, because I understood sweater construction

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on the knitting side. So I was doing like a raglan increase with the curl, like I was like,

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Okay, I need to do I mean, back when I was doing our old D&D group, I was I made Amigurumi's way

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back in the beginning of our characters. And I actually made the characters like first with

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like an undershirt and pants, but then I crocheted armor and put the armor on after. So so so like

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on a small scale, I guess I've kind of done garments. That counts. It still counts. What about you,

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Meg? Honestly, I so I started knitting when I was 20. And I didn't really learn I didn't learn how to

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purl until I was 25. So there was a lot of garter stitch scarves. So my progress was super slow.

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And I remember like the first project that I decided to buy a pattern and stretch myself and

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try something that I had never tried before and teach myself a technique that I had never attempted.

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It was the Winterberry Cowl by Leah M Designs. And it was the first time I tried bobbles.

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And I saw this pattern and it was so pretty and I loved it. And I wanted to make it. And I tried

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making and it was like, Oh my God, like bobbles with a crochet hook. And I struggled with it,

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like really struggled. And then I got myself some pointier needles for purling that seven together.

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And it was a huge difference. And when I started actually putting the bobbles into the the cowl,

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I'm like, this is the first time I really challenged myself, like found a pattern, bought a pattern,

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like made the the conscious decision to buy a pattern that I wasn't sure if I could do.

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I did it, I succeeded, I finished, I've never worn that cowl. I don't think I ever will. I just

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keep it. I love having it. But I felt so good when I was done with that. And I'm like, okay,

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if I can do this, then there really isn't anything I can't do. And it was just a total switch of

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mindset from I have a very limited range of talent when it comes to knitting, you know,

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I can do the basics, I can knit a hat, I can knit a sock, I can knit a scarf. But everything I'm

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knitting is very like generic, like I was way too scared to try patterns. And I was so excited with

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that bobble cowl that I just started being like, okay, well, what else can I learn? And I and I

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for the first time in my entire knitting journey, I wasn't afraid to try new things. And that was

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really like the light bulb moment of I don't want to just like, sit there and knit the same thing

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over and over again for the rest of my life, I want to try new things, I want to knit a sweater,

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I want to try lease, I want to, etc, etc. And there's there is nothing wrong. I've mentioned

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before, my sister does one by one rib and it she is the happiest person on earth doing just one by

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one ribs carbs, and there's nothing wrong with that. And I really thought that was the kind of

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near I was going to be for the rest of my life was just doing kind of the same projects over and

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over again. And that was like the first time that I'm like, no, I want to learn new things, I want

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to try new stuff, because I finally felt like I was capable of doing those things. So that was

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really that was summer of 2021. And it was like, boom, like everything changed. So very exciting.

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Yeah, it's definitely like that that capable feeling is yeah, yeah, it's huge. It's like,

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did you summer of 21? Yep. Isn't that when I came back? Yeah, I actually bought the yarn for that

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cowl. When you you were up here, you hadn't moved up. I don't think you had permanently moved, but

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we went that was local yarn store day. And we all went out for local yarn store day and I bought a

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skein of Malabrigo. And I forget the colorway, but it was a peach color. It was like a pink. It

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was apple blossom. Yeah, no, it wasn't because I wanted apple blossom, but they didn't have it.

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The the sample was apple blossom. I wanted that it was a peach. It was close to apple blossom. I

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forget what it was called. And it was pretty. But yeah, oh, God, that was that was that trip. I

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got it. Star Solo. We all went the local yarn store day trip. Yeah, that was fun. Yep. And

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that was where I got that yarn. So we were we were living at my mom's house because we had

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bought this house, but we hadn't closed on it yet. We had already sold our old house. So

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we were kind of in flux. I had just got into you had just I had known I just know you just bought

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it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, just bought it. Yeah. So yeah, we were cutting the thing. No, it was it

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was summer. So but that's the thing like you think I started knitting in December of 20,

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2003. It took me 18 years to get to that point. It was a really long point.

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Long journey, but I had to get there. Yeah. And it's like the good thing about knitting is that

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like I've got, you know, all the time in the world. So it doesn't have done I've changed a lot since

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then. So so good stuff. Feel more capable as a knitter than when I was making those

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those. Dwarven Battle Bonnets. Oh my God. I thought you were so free. The army of battle

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bonnets. There were so many of them. The pattern was called Dwarven Battle Bonnet to because it

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was the second version and somebody that I went to high school with that I didn't even really

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talk to at that point anymore, messaged me on Facebook and was like, I want this,

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which is like such a great beginning. Knit this for me. Okay. And I was like, okay. So

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he paid for my supplies and then he paid for my time and I made him a Dwarven Battle Bonnet.

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And then I had three other people say that is the coolest thing I've ever seen.

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I remember that. You were cranking those out pretty regularly for a while. It's probably the

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weirdest pattern that I've ever made, but that was the first pattern that I did bobbles on.

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Yeah. You saying bobbles made me think of my back. Yeah. I'd like to think that every time that a

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friend, you know, shovels the snow or something, he wears that bonnet. God, I hope so. Why would

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you not? Why would you not wear that? Why would you not? Kevin, if you listen to our podcast,

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I just want you to know that I still think of you wearing that. And I hope you still have.

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And if you're not wearing it to shovel snow, don't tell us. We would rather think that you do.

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Look, if you don't wear it to shovel snow, you should be. Yeah. You should probably make that

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change. Oh God. So like, you know, we talk about where we were, where we came from,

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you know, when that moment was, were there any like quest benchmarks that you either were trying

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to reach or when you reached them, you were like, I feel like I've, you know, just to stick with the

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fantasy video game theme. You leveled up, so to speak. When did you feel like you leveled up as

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a crafter? Socks. Socks. And then I was just happy with socks for a really long time. First,

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it was garter stitch socks. Yeah. And I said, I was never going to do anything else forever.

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I remember that. You're like, I'm a scarf knitter. I'm good with this. And then I made a hat,

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which was too small for my head, which is, isn't everybody really saying something because

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I have a very small head. You do have a small head. Yeah. Oh my goodness. And then I went from

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hats to socks. And then I was just socks forever for a long time. Man, I love socks. So like in,

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in North Carolina, I felt super confident. I was doing all these like shawls and I still hadn't

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done a garment. And then when I came up here, I don't know if it was because I was literally out

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of my mind or if I just, I was, I was not, I was not doing well mentally during the time that I

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first originally came up. But for some reason during that period, I was like, you know what I'm

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going to do? I'm going to become a test knitter. I don't even know how to do garments. And my first

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test knit was a garment. Yeah. Tina, I thought you were insane for doing that. Dude, dive into the

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pool and just start swimming. And not only did I do it, I did it correctly. And like it came out

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great. And I was just like, cool. And then I was like, I'm going to test it three sweaters at a time.

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And I'm like, that's a bad idea. That was a poor choice. But at the same time, I think that was

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a pretty, you know, ingenious way to, you know, jump into it because you've committed to it now.

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I feel like that is the story of my life. That's this podcast. I was like, well,

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I'm committed now. I've already bought the mics. We're going to do this now. You know, I'm

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committed now. I said I was going to tell, I told someone I was going to make a sample of this

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pattern. So I guess I have to make the sweater now. It's just, I thrive off of the, you know,

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rush of deadlines and feeling like I'm going to miss something.

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That was exactly how I knit my first garment too was the Phaedora cableit.

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I just really liked it. And I'm like, okay, it doesn't have sleeves. So I don't have to worry

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about the sleeves, but it would be my first time like in doing the increasing and making

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out like a wearable garment. And I'm like, you know what, just let's, I've done color work before.

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Let's just do it. Let's dive in and do it. And it was such like such a high being done with it.

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I'm like, if I can do this, and I'm like, I've now done everything on a sweater, but the sleeves,

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I can do sleeves, sleeves are just tubes. It's going to be, and then, and then I picked up the

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stitches for the slender arm gusset. You know what I was like, no, sleeves aren't just tubes.

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Good, good talk, Meg. But, but it was, it was like, okay, like this, that felt like such a

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significant benchmark of like, I can do this. I think for me, my biggest benchmark is getting that

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blue ribbon. Yeah. Yeah. Guys, I cried. Yeah. And then that stupid lady tried to ruin my high, but

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like, I totally was like, so excited. I was like, because for me, that was like another

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knitter who had a lot of experience, so much experience that they were judging a fiber arts,

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like, you know, thing at a fair, yeah, competition at a fair, that they said to me like, hey, out of

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all of the sweaters in this category, not only was it not, and it was a sweater that was on top

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of it. It was all the, all the sweaters in this kid's category, your pullover was the best. And

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I'm like, really? Yeah, that is, because it is, it is. And I, and I feel like a lot of the time we

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tend to, I don't even think it's just knitters. I think it's people in general. We tend to get

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really like, oh, it's not so hard. You could do it too. About when people compliment us like,

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okay, yeah, that was nice. But it really, you know, we tend to kind of like negate our own

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successes. And it's like, you know, there's nothing wrong with being like, yes, thank you. It was

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complicated. I'm proud of it. Like, thank you for acknowledging that I did something fantastic.

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I redid those sleeves. Do you remember that? I thought you were crazy. They're not even. They're

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not even. I'm like, oh my God, it's the week of. It was worth it. I remember Josie me tear out her

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sleeves because it was, it's her sweater. And she was just like, mommy, I was like, no, no, no,

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it's gonna, it's gonna be done. It's gonna be better. It's gonna be better. It's gonna be so even.

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shorter because they were sitting on her elbow a little weird. So it worked out. I have a lot of

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like leveling up moments, but they're fun. So I want to say, like my first one was probably the

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color work because that was like, combining. Okay, I made a pattern and figured out color work.

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Honestly, casting on a pie shawl because that was a weird cast on casting on to like start from the

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middle of shawl and workout like it took me a couple of tries. That was also my first big beating

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project. And then most of the shawls that I did for that because that was for our wedding

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involved learning a new skill like I did bobbles, I did beads, I did the Russian translation.

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That you're like or that it was three years. And then it was like the sweater.

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Because I just really like that pattern. I was like, okay, this thing that I said I'd never

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going to do. I need to try it. So yeah, so those those are the big but every time I just,

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I feel like I enjoy and the ones that stick with me the most are the ones where I am like,

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okay, this is really interesting. And I also want to know how like I want to know how to do it. I

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want to do it. So let's dive in and see like I'm so excited to be finishing this other project

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because now then I will have a stick under my belt. And that's fun and scary at the same time.

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I'm so proud of you guys. I'm not ready. I don't think I'm ready. But you know, I'm also kind of

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like I'm tired of like, I think I've gone through like five or six projects where I've said like,

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I'm going to sneak I'm going to try it. And I think it's going to have to be like the bobbles

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like everything else where it's like, okay, let's just do it, just get it done. Because

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what is the worst thing the worst thing can happen is it falls apart. And that would be tragic.

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But no one's going to die. And you know, I will be sad. It will be a lot of wasted time. And but

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at the same time, it's like, I will learn something from it. And I've been saying that a lot lately.

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And I think it's mainly because like my job has gotten super stressful this year. But you know,

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talking to my students and I'm like, what is the worst that's going to happen if this happens,

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no one's going to die. No massive tragedy is going to happen. Like, it may not turn out the way that

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you want it to. But the impact on everything and even your life is going to be relatively small.

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And it has taken me years to get to that point with with knitting, where I'm not too scared to

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try new things. So I think that segues really well into the last kind of question is like,

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where do you where do you see yourselves going on this quest? Like, what do you what do you want

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to accomplish in the long run? Is there anything you want to accomplish? Or is your journey just,

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you know, what more of the same, more of this, which is also of course, totally fine. I don't

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feel like I've ever given myself any kind of like lofty goals. Even when I did my sweater,

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I don't think that it was like, yeah, Everest. And nobody you don't need to have an Everest.

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Like, I feel like that is like, I'm sure I'll do more. As in like, pick up more skills. But I don't

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think it's it's also not a must for me. Yeah. If I do it great, if I don't do it, whatever.

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I like the process of knitting. So as long as I'm doing it, I'm happy. I don't like it's weird,

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because like, I have a tendency to almost put too much pressure on something I really love.

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If that makes sense, like in terms of act like activities that I like,

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because I get like almost hyper fixated on the activities, you better enjoy this.

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It's like, it's not even that it's like, it's like, I want to do all the things with it. Like,

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I want to be so involved. I want to be like, I want to do, you know, you know, make it into a

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business and make it into the tests and do the things and the button to and I'm trying really hard

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for my journey to not turn into a focus on how can I make this bigger? Rather, how can I make this

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better for me?

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Just enjoying the journey. Yeah.

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Like it's like I mentioned last time, it's like the process I'm really trying really,

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really hard to focus on process over like this, this Everest, like this trying to get to a certain

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point. Because at this point, now I feel like I'm honestly going to end up doing Portuguese

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knitting tutorials because there's no good ones.

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There really isn't a good one.

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I mean, if that is what you want to do, though, to fill that void on the Internet, then like,

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I think that's it as long as that's something you want to do.

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Yeah, I feel like it's almost like a reference to myself, though. Like, it's like, I don't even care

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if like people watch it. Like for me, it's like, no, no, no, I need to like put this down because

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like, like,

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If I forget, I will actually see how I do.

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Yes. I don't forget how I did this.

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Um, but I find like, even when I was looking for like certain, there are certain stitches,

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I just had to figure out because this, the way that you knit like this is slightly different

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and the way you're holding the yarn is different. So the way that you may have learned English style

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or even continental style to do like an increase or a decrease or something like that, it's different.

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Like you have to hold it a different way. Um, and with through trial and error, you know,

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I figured it out, but like, for example, one of the things is that they make you do color work

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inside out all the videos I've seen. And there's only like three that I've seen when they're like,

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Oh yeah, because, you know, Portuguese knitting is all about purling. And I'm like,

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I'm like, I get that it's the one of the benefits of Portuguese knitting is that purling is a lot

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easier because it's inherently like one of the, a very easy, very little movement kind of thing to do.

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Well, I can see how it would be natural to do it inside out them.

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Yeah. But like for me, it messed with my brain. I was like, I need to see how it's coming out.

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Cause like, I don't want to be like, okay, I need to go look.

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Cause like, I don't know if I'm messing up or not. I can't tell from the wrong side if I'm

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actually doing it right or not. So I taught myself how to do it right.

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So I was like, okay, okay. Yeah, I can do it right. I can do this right side out. And then it

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was like, okay, I got this, but then I'm like, wait, nobody knows. There's no other video that

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does do this right. So that's what that was compelling me is I don't want to forget that.

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So it's again, process. It's like remembering my process rather than like,

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Oh, I'm going to be like the best tutorial because I'm not doing this for me, not for you.

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Correct. Yeah. Thank you. If you benefit from it, great. But just so you know, this is for me.

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Yeah, this is purely for me. None of this is about you.

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None of it. It's purely about me. Not here to help anybody else.

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Yeah. I mean, I mean, I mean, obviously, Dre, I'm not that callous, but I would like to.

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But that's something that's it.

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Sounded like. Yeah. So funny.

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I think there is something also to be said for like, you're doing this for you.

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Like you're not doing it because you feel obligated to do anything.

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I'm not trying to like make it a business or turn into a thing.

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I want to do this. I feel compelled to do it. And that is why I'm doing it.

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Literally how I, my Instagram started.

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It was me being like, I like these videos that I want to do vines because that's what it reminded

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me of. Do it for the vine. I did. I was like, I want to do vines. This is fun.

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Can I please bring back fine? Yeah. What a golden age. But yeah, like my Instagram was like that.

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The podcast was like that. Like everything has been like that.

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And I feel like the things that have been have started in that capacity where it's just like,

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we're just going to do this and it's going to be fun.

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It's organic. Organic. Yeah.

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Those are the ones that work out. That's the ones that stick.

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Yeah. Yeah.

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About you, Jess.

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Um, I mean, mine is basically do the same mold until I see something new that I want to try.

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Like not going to lie. There is.

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We weren't talking about your whole life.

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No, we're just talking about knitting.

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Because that's basically what you do in real life.

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Yeah. But no, so I saw a thing and it's like you crochet like the little creatures,

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like they're tiny. They're mini ones though, because as you crochet, they're actually little

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beaded minis. So it's like a crochet rabbit, but it's all beads.

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And I'm like, that looks awesome. I don't feel like doing it right now,

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but I want to learn how eventually when I feel like learning how,

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which is not this moment, but I know one day that's the thing I'm going to want to try.

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Also with crochet, you got to pre beat everything.

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And I really don't feel like doing that right now because it's not the pain.

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But I do have that cool little tool for that.

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Yeah, you do.

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Which is nice.

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You do.

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But yeah, so stuff like that where I'm like, okay, I have benchmark that eventually this will be an

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interest. But until then, I am perfectly happy doing my thing right now and continuing on.

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I feel like I am at a healthy level of where I need to be. And yeah.

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Do you have an Everest?

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I don't have an Everest. I think mainly like the episode we had a few times ago where I

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acknowledge and realize that the beginning of the year is always so bad for me with casting on.

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Like that was a real moment of like self actualization of I have a real problem

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where I get to a point where I'm not enjoying myself when I'm knitting to the point where I

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almost avoid it or I rip out my projects and I toss it away. And I think my main goal

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or quest I guess with knitting is to try and curate what I am doing to the point where I don't

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want to put it down. Which means stop knitting things from obligation. Don't knit things that I

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realize are not bringing me joy. Try to be a little more selective when choosing patterns.

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Like there's I've had this this this pie in the sky pattern for years that I wanted to do was the

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rose of England shawl. It's beautiful. And my goal used to be to do it when I turned 40 and I

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was looking at the pattern the other day and I'm like, I would hate every second of this.

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I would be miserable. It's beautiful. I would want that like I would love to have this shawl,

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but I know I would not want to knit it. And I think it's just more being conscious of

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not my capabilities so much as what I want to do.

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Knit or know thyself.

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Really, yeah, a lot of that. And but also not sticking just I don't want to just stick to

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things that I know that I can do. Like I do want to keep stretching myself. But I don't want to do

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things that I look at a pattern and I'm like, I really want the product. But I know that this

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entire this is going to be miserable. This journey is going to be miserable. I'm going to hate every

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second of it. So trying to be a little more conscientious of what I like to do and sticking

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with projects and yarns that I that I like to work with and just trying to have fun with it.

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It's really that's really the whole maybe the real real quest is the friends we met along the way,

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the fun we had along the way.

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The fellowship of the string.

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That's all the time we have this week for additional content and opportunities to

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connect with the cast. Check out our website at pardon my stash.com and be sure to tune

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