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Greetings my peeps and welcome to the All Things Basketball Podcast with your boy GD.

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In this episode I'm calling it the Tale of Two Villains where we talk about Dreymon Green

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and Dylan Brooks.

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Also we'll talk about Nick Nurse, him getting fired, also talk about Phil Jackson, he has

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some things to say about the NBA and some injury news as well.

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So just sit back, relax and enjoy the show.

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Ok guys so we are back with All Things Basketball Podcast with your boy GD of course.

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Let's get back into the swing of things.

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So this episode I'm titling the Tale of Two Villains.

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I'll explain more about that in a minute.

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But I did want to cover some news items in terms of the NBA so I wanted to cover those

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right quick.

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So let's get into it shall we?

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So let's start off with some coaching news.

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Nick Nurse is out as the Toronto head coach, the general manager and president of operations,

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Masai Ajiri announced that Nick Nurse will no longer be there coach.

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So let's talk a little bit about Nick Nurse's history there.

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He was an assistant coach under Dwayne Casey for five years before he took over as the

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head coach of the team.

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So he comes in as a head coach.

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He coached there for five years.

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He comes in and in his first year he wins a championship as a rookie head coach.

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His overall record in those five years, 227 against 163 so he had a 58.2% win percentage

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and during that time he finished as high as second in the Eastern Conference twice.

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He had a fifth place finish as well and then this year he finished ninth.

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So and see the thing I take out of this is Nick Nurse, he was given an impossible situation

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with this current roster because there's too many similar players man.

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You got a Pascal Siakam who's of course they're all world power forward.

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Then you have a Chris Boucher.

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He's also a big who also plays similar to Siakam and you got Precious Hachua.

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That's who they got back in the Cal Lowry deal in fact.

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But you know all these guys play the same positions so you know it's only 48 minutes

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you could dole out to these guys if you want to swing them to center then that's another

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story but then you have the Jocked Polter that you brought in from the San Antonio Spurs

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so you kind of have a dilemma at that position and then you had something similar at the

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small forward with Scotty Barnes and OG Ananobi.

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Both guys are pretty much similar.

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Both guys are pretty much two way I say Barnes is more offensive than Ananobi but Ananobi

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is more defensive than Barnes.

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But there's similar players and then you are playing with a undersized shooting guard and

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Fred Van Vleet who you were forced to put at the point guard position and he played

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it well.

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I think you need a kind of a oversize point guard to play with him in order for him to

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flourish.

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You definitely need kind of a floor general type next to him.

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So I think the roster itself especially this year was kind of clunky so and then you have

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to lay that at the feet of Messiah Jerry.

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The fact that you heard during the trade deadline all the rumors of him wanting to make trades

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but what happened was his accent price was too high for these guys.

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He was wanting a couple of first round draft choices for OG Ananobi.

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He's a good player I grant you that but I don't think you're going to get a couple of

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first round picks and he wanted it unprotected.

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You're not going to get that for him so I think his accent price was too high for his

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players.

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But again Nick Nurse did the best he could with what he had and that's the way it goes

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sometime.

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But Nick Nurse I assure you guys he will not be unemployed very long.

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During this off season you already got a couple of jobs that's out there the Houston job also

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the Detroit job and mind you judging on what happens with these first round playoffs here

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you're probably going to have some openings once that's done.

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So he's going to have his pick of the litter so if I were Nick Nurse I just sit back and

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wait for the right opening.

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I don't think he's a guy who wants to go to a Houston or Detroit type situation.

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I think he wants a team that's kind of an underachiever he could come in there and employ

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his system so yeah so I think he's going to have his pick of the litter so I think he'll

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lay back he'll see what opens up.

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I don't think he'll leap at the first job that opens up so we'll see what happens there.

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And then you have Phil Jackson Phil Jackson who we last saw was executive of the New York

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Knicks he was given a five year contract at $60 million he was pretty much stealing money

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basically at that time James Dolan was kind of desperate the situation with the Knicks

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he was in a desperate situation to kind of because you know he was getting raked over

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the coals in terms of the media and the fan base over his hands always constantly being

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in the business of the team so in comes Phil Jackson with his coaching resume not so much

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the executive but it is what it is with that so he came here he didn't live out his contract

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by the way guys they pretty much departed services with him anyhow so Phil Jackson he

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makes an appearance on a Rick Rubin podcast and he reveals to Rick Rubin in this podcast

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that he hasn't watched the NBA since 2019 2020 season which was the actual bubble season

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where you know the pandemic hit in 2020 and then the NBA had to regroup and for safety

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reason they put everybody in the bubble in Orlando so basically he said that he hasn't

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enjoyed or watched basketball since the 2020 bubble in Orlando Florida that was during the

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height of the covid pandemic the reasons why is because of the league's embrace of the

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black lives matter movement and other social justice initiatives that kind of turned him

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off from the game here's what he was quoted as saying it had to do with the politics more

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than anything else I think the politically correct thing happened with the NBA in terms

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of this whole BLM movement and he went as far as to say you know the names on the jerseys

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all the different names on the jerseys even his grandkids joked about it and so forth

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of course Phil didn't correct his grandkids he just let them go on with that last time

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I checked you know caring for the lives of black folks isn't a laugh matter but what do

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I know anyhow so he went on to say it's not about the game anymore it's about the message

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and that's not the way I believe the game should be played or presented so that's what

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he had to say in that regard so he had a problem with the politics of the matter and called

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it wonky and it was trying to cater to our audience or trying to bring in a certain audience

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to the game they didn't know that it was turning other people off people want to see sports

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as non-political politics stays out of the game it doesn't need to be there let me stop

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you there Phil Phil Jackson you played in the 60 and the 70s lot was happening in the country

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lot of civil rights and things of that nature in fact you had Bill Russell there strong

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social justice advocate there who we all know stood beside Muhammad Ali when he boycotted

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the Olympics so you had that also you had a Karim Abdul Jabbar who also stood beside

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him and he had his own social justice initiatives that he was dealing with at that time as well

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so you had that not to mention yourself Phil Phil from what I understand you had a problem

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with the Vietnam War so you were out there protesting so that was political was it not

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I'm just saying and then now the more that I think about it the more I realize that yeah

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you you carry that thing into coaching too because I'm old enough to remember when Michael

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Jordan or his representative whoever made the statement Republicans by sneakers to when

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he was asked to endorse a candidate I think a Democratic candidate at the time so and

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that's when he made that statement and also to remember when they won the championship

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and went to the White House when George Bush was president one of his players Craig Hodges

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came there in a dice cheeky and he pretty much was axing the president at the time about

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you know concerns of the black community for that you guys didn't bring Craig Hodges back

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in fact you had him black ball from the entire NBA so this all this was under Phil's watch

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and then oh by the way I'll bring this up because Scotty did the fact that in that 1994

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series against the Knicks where he pulled Scotty and put in Tony Kukos ran a play for

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him instead of Scotty by the way Scotty was like third I believe in the MVP voting so

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think about this your MVP candidate you kind of diss him to run a play for Tony Kukos

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at the time so so there's all of that to add to the mix and then you know later on he says

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things about guys dressing in prison garb and how hip hop has had a bad influence on

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the players that play in the league and then later he comes and he makes a statement about

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LeBron James of all people LeBron James who and he talked about you know the guys he

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grew up with Maverick Carter and those guys and he called them a posse which is a derogatory

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term pretty much so Phil Jackson it seems like you got a history of these sort of undertones

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of the old man yelling at the kids on his lawn so yeah so we're not feeling that Jelene

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Rose he went IG live to highlight the fact that Phil Jackson's coaching career was built

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on the backs of black athletes who won him championships so for him to disregard the

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bringing attention to because at the time there was the George Floyd killing in Minnesota

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as well as Breonna Taylor as well so yeah Phil you're not looking good right now so

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and you know people say oh he's kind of in that generation I'll give you a guy who you

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don't hear any kind of foolishness like that come out of his mouth and that's Bill Walton

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Bill Walton is a 60 70s kid and you don't hear him talking that upside the wall talk

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and oh by the way he like Phil Jackson was a deadhead still is kind of one but you don't

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hear Bill Walton talking that off the wall nonsense like that so to say it's generational

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yeah I'm not gonna give him that pass so so Phil Jackson we ain't trying to hear your nonsense

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so so I'm just gonna leave it at that guy so alright let's get to the crux of what

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I wanted to talk about in this episode and that's the tale of two villains who are the

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two villains let's talk about the first one Dremon Green Dremon Green and game two of

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his series with the Sacramento Kings his Golden State Warriors in that game like during the

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fourth quarter he stomped on the chest of Demontus Sabonis in that game too Dremon says that

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Sabonis grabbed his leg for the second time in two nights so and then actually in the video you

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see him kind of grab his foot to kind of prevent him from hitting on a fast break so he basically

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said that I guess he kind of complained to the referees whether they heard him or not who knows

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so I guess he took it upon himself to make a statement I guess and along with that that

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Sabonis grabbed his leg he also said that well he had to land his foot somewhere and that he

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wasn't going to stretch out to avoid stepping on the man's chest here's the problem you stomped on

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the man's chest stepping on the man's chest is one thing but deliberately stomped the man's chest

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is a whole different deals so Sabonis was given a tech for grabbing Dremon's leg on the play when

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they reviewed it and then Dremon was giving a flagrant two foul and he was ejected from the

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game so that's how the referees called it at that time so of course the big question is

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wow are they gonna suspend him for a playoff game so as the play was being reviewed oh let me go back

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as the play was being reviewed by the referees in the game uh the Sacramento Kings fans kind of

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jeered at Dremon Green and you know fans are gonna do that because hey they just saw Dremon

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stomp their star player in the chest to which Dremon he waves at them like to bring it on

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and he cups his ear to like you know louder I can't hear you basically so oh by the way Adam Silver

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the NBA commissioner he was at the game so he got to see all of this gone so the league

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office takes a look at it and decides Dremon Green is suspended for that game game three in that

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series oh by the way in Dremon's history he got suspended for a finals game versus Cleveland where

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he missed game five and which pretty much turned around that series by the way because Cleveland

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ended up winning that series so so like I said the league office reviewed it and indeed they

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suspended Dremon for the game here is what NBA executive vice president Joe Dumas in charge

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of these sort of things this is what he told the Associated Press about it this was not some snap of

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the finger decision to do there was much discussion and back and forth looking at the play itself

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over and over and then ultimately we came to the decision that the act itself and repeat

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offenses that's the key phrase in this actually did warrant a suspension and in terms of Demontus

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Sabonis it wasn't like it went completely unpunished we didn't think it rose to the level of

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Dremon's play excessive over the top dangerous repeat offender there's that phrase again that's

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the separation between what he did and what Dremon did I do think because it kind of comes off as

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heavy handed towards Golden State and Sacramento kind of gets off the hook being that Demontus

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just grabbed the foot so if I were Joe Dumas I would levy to find towards Sabonis this way

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you have somewhat equity it's not total equity of Demontus missing the game as well but at least

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you have some sort of justice in that regard so with that said now there was some that was

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disappointed that he got suspended I know Stephen A Smith mentioned you know he's disappointed in

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the NBA for suspended someone for a playoff game but I circle back to the fact that Dremon has to be

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more conscious he has to be more not in the moment where he realized hey what I'm going to do here

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could affect my team it definitely affect the person I'm doing it to so he's got to have that

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mindset so that's where I disagree about the suspension I think it had to happen and again

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the key phrase is repeat offender the fact that he has history is why this was leveled upon him

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so think about it Dremon Green putting his 230 pounds putting his weight on the chest of Sabonis

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not a good look not a good look guys so with that said so what's in the future for Dremon

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I will talk about this series once it's done but right now he has a player option for next season

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at 27.5 million so he can opt out guys will he do it we'll see but if he does I tell you this right

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now I don't see him coming back to Golden State if he were to opt out I think his only chance will

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be to opt in and I think even with that Golden State may want to say look because remember you

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got to weigh everything into account and this is something I kind of predicted when I did my season

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preview that with the incident that happened with him and Jordan pool I think that still lingers

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like in the minds of those in the front office so I wouldn't be surprised if they moved on from

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Dremon I wouldn't be surprised guys so with that said since I strongly doubt him being back with the

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Golden State Warriors next season where could I see him ending up I know a lot of people talk

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about the Lakers I don't know if that happens especially if the Lakers were to advance in the

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next round and what they do beyond that so here's a deal I would consider I'll put it out there

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there you can send Dremon Green Patrick Baldwin Junior Ryan Rollins send all those guys to the

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Brooklyn Nets along with a protected first round pick in exchange for Ben Simmons I know people

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are going to say what hear me out guys so you're parting with Dremon granted your history together

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and so forth you're giving the Nets a player who has you know championship pedigree he'll have a

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locker room that he can mold into his image per se where he can talk and the young players there

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will follow so they have promising young players there guys you still have a mckell bridges there

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you have a nick clackstain or I think he can definitely play off of as he's at these powerful

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position you have a cam johnson how he works with Spencer Denwood he'd out be interesting to see

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but you know you have some young talent there that did make the playoffs and then you have a

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Ben Simmons who Brooklyn doesn't want him back in a Nets uniform it's been too much drama too much

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with his injury history and so forth so is it injuries I don't even know at this point it could

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be from the neck up so Ben Simmons goes to a situation in golden state where he gets a clean

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slate where he can go there improve himself and what better kind of player to fill Dremon's ability

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as a basketball player than Ben Simmons who's very talented guys you'll miss that leadership

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component but he gives you everything that Dremon does but not the heart of Dremon that would be

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your issue right there so hey how so that's your villain number one let's go to villain number two

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Dylan Brooks Dylan Brooks here's how it all started guys he said in a pregame interview

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prior to game three he said that basically LeBron he's old this is what he said in its full context

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I don't care he's old he only said something when I got my fourth foul sure didn't say nothing early on

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but I poke bears I don't respect no one until they come and give me 40 I pride myself on what I do

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defense and taking any challenge that's on the board if it's LeBron if it's AD if it's whoever

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I play my heart out he knows that the rest of league knows that I know my guys know that so

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this is from Dylan Brooks ha so he's gonna play the head game with a 20-year veteran in LeBron James

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and think it's gonna play out well for him I don't think so LeBron being the season vet that he is

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refused to take the bait he was asked about Dylan's comments to which he ignored and didn't answer so

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he kind of sidestepped the issue so enter game three which happened on Saturday night LeBron

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confronts Dylan during pregame warm-ups a lot of people wondering what do you say what do you say

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what do you say I heard Shannon shop say basically I'm gonna cook you well he said I'm not I don't know

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so I'm pretty sure he made reference to his comments I'm sure that if we know anything about LeBron

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I'm sure he brought that to Dylan's mind so with that said the Lakers crushing the Grizzlies at that

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time and at the half and with the score about 53 to 37 early in the third quarter Dylan Brooks hits

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LeBron in the man region in a I'm using air quotes here an effort of reaching for the ball

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I saw the replay I saw the game live by the way and then I saw the replay a few times and I'm like

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yeah this is not gonna work out for you so after the refs reviewed the play Dylan was given a flagrant

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to foul for the contact that they deemed unnecessary and excessive so he was ejected from the game

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his stat line before he left 19 minutes seven points he shot it three for 13 one for five from

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three to rebounding a steal that was it for him and LeBron he had a great game of course so

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and the Lakers ended up winning that game at the post game interview LeBron his part of what he said

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because you know reporters of course are gonna ask him well were you trying to make a statement in

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this game again this is a 20-year vet we're talking about LeBron his part of his response

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nah I've been doing this for too long I'm making no statements I don't need to make statements

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that's what LeBron said so and also they asked him about Dylan Brooks being suspended he didn't

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say one way or the other whether he should be suspended so we'll see what happens in that regard

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and then this way it gets really funny guys Dylan's response to his ejection the media

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making me a villain the fans making me a villain and then that just creates a whole different

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persona on me so Dylan may I lay out your resume and that's just for this year thus far 18 technical

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fouls two games you missed because of suspensions because of said technical fouls oh by the way

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you did shove a cameraman this year you were suspended last year in a playoff game due to a

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flagrant two foul that you had on Gary Payton II which caused him to break his hand by the way

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and then you were ejected from a game this season for striking Donovan Mitchell take a guess where

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he hit Donovan Mitchell at guys yeah the same area as LeBron in the man region yes correct

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so Dylan Dylan buddy yeah you brought this on yourself man so whether they suspend you or not

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I don't know we'll see but yeah yeah you can't cry wolf now your resume speaks for itself so

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and like I said with Draymon repeat offender and that's in your record repeat offender and

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that's the problem so with that said let's talk about his future Dylan Brooks is actually going

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to be an unrestricted free agent I would be stunned if he returns to the Memphis Grizzly I'd be stunned

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I think they're done with his antics the fact that yeah sure he could defend but he shoots you

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out of ball games he's a horrendous shooter from the field he's decent from the free throw line

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and that's problematic guys that that's problematic so here's what I will say though you know he's

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talks this lofty stuff about himself and talk about you know him being the villain so here's

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what I want to say the difference between a Dylan Brooks a Draymon Green a Dennis Rodman in his day

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a Bill Lane Bear during his time and met a world peace aka Ron Artes all these guys

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play villain roles in their careers you know what the difference between all of those guys

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and Dylan Brooks all star appearances in championships you have Draymon all star appearances

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championships Dennis Rodman multiple all star game appearances championships Bill Lane Bear

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multiple all star appearances championships met a world peace even got him a chip and he went to

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one all star games so Dylan yeah you you're not in that class yet so yeah you got a lot to put on

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on your resume man you are not those guys that's for sure so you know what you're the villain now

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embrace it own it and here's what I'll say in terms of the free agency who is that team that's

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gonna find him that's gonna be willing to sign this guy I'm sure there will be one will there be a

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playoff caliber team I doubt that I really do right now Draymon Green at his age he's the more

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attractive free agent than Dylan Brooks who's much younger so I struggle to see where he's

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gonna go next year so I will leave it at that so that is it for me oh a couple more items just

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injury related Giannis onto to Kumpo seems like he'll be back for game four so he entered this

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back in game one missed a couple of games but he'll be back for game four bad news with Miami

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first you lose Tyler hero with a broken hand he's out for four to six weeks and then in game three

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you lose a Victor Ola depot oh I feel for the young man towards me again so he's out for the

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foreseeable future definitely prayers up in all that towards his way he's been through so much

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and then bad news out of Sacramento Dearon Fox has a fractured finger so his status for game five

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is up in the air right now in that series so yeah so a few injury items there and also

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Jolyne B who missed game four in the Sixers net series he's having a injury issue as well and we'll

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see whether he's available for the next round I'll just leave it at that I won't give away too much

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because again I'll talk about this when I recap the first round so all right guys so I'm going to

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