1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:09,540 Greetings my peeps and welcome to the All Things Basketball Podcast with your boy GD. 2 00:00:09,540 --> 00:00:15,200 In this special episode guys I'm calling it Draymond Strikes Again. 3 00:00:15,200 --> 00:00:16,200 Literally. 4 00:00:16,200 --> 00:00:23,940 Yes, we're talking about Draymond Green, the hit he had on Joseph Nerkik and the suspension 5 00:00:23,940 --> 00:00:24,940 that follows. 6 00:00:24,940 --> 00:00:40,420 I'll cover it from A to Z so just sit back, relax and enjoy the show. 7 00:00:40,420 --> 00:00:47,960 Okay guys it's your boy GD back with the All Things Basketball with GD Podcast and this 8 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:52,120 episode, this will be a special episode actually. 9 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:58,900 I was thinking of what to name this and it really became crystal clear to me. 10 00:00:58,900 --> 00:01:02,940 So we're going to call this Draymond Strikes Again. 11 00:01:02,940 --> 00:01:04,460 Literally. 12 00:01:04,460 --> 00:01:10,460 So on hat note guys, let us get into it. 13 00:01:10,460 --> 00:01:17,320 Your buddy and my Draymond Green, guys you know I've talked about it maybe the past couple 14 00:01:17,320 --> 00:01:26,000 of episodes, not the last one but the two prior and guys I said it was just a matter 15 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:34,240 of time for something to pop off where he just can't help himself and lo and behold 16 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:36,040 December 14th. 17 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:38,520 So let's talk about it. 18 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:45,740 On December 14th on a Tuesday night, Golden State playing the Phoenix Suns at Phoenix 19 00:01:45,740 --> 00:01:53,160 in a actually competitive game and then when we got to the third quarter with Golden State 20 00:01:53,160 --> 00:02:02,520 actually up 65 to 60, right about the 823 mark, the ball goes loose so Draymond Green 21 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:09,640 who was guarding Joseph Nerkik at the time, both guys go for the loose ball and Draymond 22 00:02:09,640 --> 00:02:17,520 with Joseph Nerkik supposedly grabbing his hip so Draymond flails his arms and actually 23 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:24,880 does like a 180 and turns around and strikes Nerkik right in the face dropping him right 24 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:26,640 to the ground. 25 00:02:26,640 --> 00:02:32,400 Then you have the refs, they're going to review it, review the play and then remember Draymond 26 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:38,480 Green he's a recidivist guys, he's done this before so the refs review it. 27 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:42,400 Of course they're taking this history into account and everything else. 28 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:50,240 They review the play and they deem it a flagrant two file which means he is automatically ejected 29 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:51,920 from the game. 30 00:02:51,920 --> 00:03:00,880 Guys this makes his 19th ejection of his career and with that ejection actually Draymond immediately 31 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:02,440 runs off the court. 32 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:07,000 He doesn't do the you know bring on the booze and all that stuff. 33 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:09,120 He immediately runs off the court. 34 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:13,920 I think in that instance he pretty much knows I messed up. 35 00:03:13,920 --> 00:03:18,760 I crossed the line that it's probably going to cost me some games and I thought that was 36 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:23,760 very significant him just running off the court because he knew I'm in trouble this 37 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:24,960 time. 38 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:33,360 So with that said the game actually was on TNT but the regular guys Ernie, Kenny, Shaq 39 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:38,920 and Charles they weren't actually doing it that night because Ernie Johnson was getting 40 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:46,000 inducted into the sports casters Hall of Fame and big up to Ernie Johnson for getting that 41 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:50,320 honor after 32 years of doing what he does. 42 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:56,520 So the regular guys weren't there so you had Adam Lefko who he's back now he just his 43 00:03:56,520 --> 00:04:03,400 wife had a baby congratulations to them so it was Lefko in Ernie's chair and you had 44 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:07,840 Grant Hill, Vince Carter and Jamal Crawford on the panel. 45 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:10,240 Of course they talked about the game. 46 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:16,640 Oh by the way Phoenix ended up winning that game against the Golden State Warriors. 47 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:23,000 So the guys are talking about it and of course everyone's surprised me not so much but everyone's 48 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:30,560 surprised and the one thing Grant Hill said that a kind of heart too is you can't keep 49 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:36,640 doing these sort of things and guys you know I've been echoing this for the longest time. 50 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:41,520 You cannot continue this behavior and of course I've been saying the last couple of times 51 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:45,480 I talked about him he has an anger problem guys. 52 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:48,000 He needs anger management that's what he needs. 53 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:53,560 A lot of the guys you know talked about it and Jamal Crawford who's one of the nicest 54 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:57,320 guys on the panel he couldn't even defend him. 55 00:04:57,320 --> 00:05:03,160 And then the following day on first take you heard a somber Stephen A Smith talk about 56 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:10,080 the incident and how he couldn't defend the action and also his career could be in jeopardy 57 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:11,080 now. 58 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:14,880 Maybe this is his last season with Golden State all those sort of things. 59 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:20,200 I'm going to circle back to him because I need to say something about him but I'll circle 60 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:23,320 back to that when we talk about the suspension. 61 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:30,720 And also he said he was uncomfortable saying that Draymond has problems I'm using air quotes 62 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:35,040 and that he has anger issues again using air quotes. 63 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:36,920 So that was his take on it. 64 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:39,440 Brian Wynhors was on the show as well. 65 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:44,840 He's basically said well he said a number of things but what stood out to me was he's 66 00:05:44,840 --> 00:05:47,840 crushing his team right now which he is. 67 00:05:47,840 --> 00:05:50,160 I make no mistake about that. 68 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:54,840 He's really hindering his team and you got to remember Golden State Warriors have the 69 00:05:54,840 --> 00:06:02,600 highest payroll in the NBA which means the owner over there is paying the highest tax 70 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:04,200 on his payroll. 71 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:07,000 So you have that dynamic. 72 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:13,240 Also bear in mind that this season thus far in games without Draymond Green the team is 73 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:19,360 2 and 5 so you have that dynamic the fact of when he's not there the team suffers on 74 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:20,960 the court. 75 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:28,200 And also he said Draymond doesn't exactly portray himself as a sympathetic figure. 76 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:35,320 Oh and let me just circle to what Steve Kerr said immediately after the game and Draymond 77 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:39,960 who wasn't supposed to be in a press conference after the game but you know him he likes to 78 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:40,960 talk so. 79 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:45,560 And I think he may have did himself more harm than good by what he said. 80 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:48,320 Steve Kerr said he didn't see the incident. 81 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:53,440 Although the incident happened right in front of the Golden State Warrior bench so much 82 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:59,760 so you saw one of the guys on their bench like oh my goodness but supposedly Steve Kerr 83 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:01,000 didn't see it. 84 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:05,160 And then he also said you can't lose your poise like that. 85 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:07,480 He's too important to the team. 86 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:09,840 But here's the whole problem with that. 87 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:12,080 You guys enabled him. 88 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:18,120 You guys treated him with kid gloves and when you do that this is what you get as a result 89 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:19,160 guys. 90 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:25,320 You get a person who again I talked about this no accountability whatsoever and no remorse 91 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:28,920 whatsoever no regrets about his actions. 92 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:32,640 So you kind of can't have it both ways here. 93 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:39,120 If you dealt with him with a heavy hand especially during the Jordan Poole incident where he punched 94 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:45,640 out his teammate I know people gonna say in hindsight look at how foolish Jordan Poole 95 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:47,960 is acting in Washington. 96 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:53,960 And actually me and my boy went packing forth on this friend of the show D and me and him 97 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:56,920 is on opposite positions on this. 98 00:07:56,920 --> 00:08:02,400 He thought Jordan Poole deserved what he got me not so much you can't punch out a teammate 99 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:04,160 when they're talking crap. 100 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:08,440 That's the one area we agree to disagree but I digress. 101 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:13,200 So again going back to Steve Kerr and the goat state warriors they should have dealt 102 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:17,080 that situation with a heavy hand and they didn't do that. 103 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:18,880 Their lives your problem. 104 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:23,800 And then Dreymon he goes and talks to the media which again I don't think he should 105 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:25,880 have did but he did. 106 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:27,560 And here's what he says. 107 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:34,360 I usually don't apologize for things I intend to do but I apologize to Yusuf and he pretty 108 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:40,440 much called it unintentional and he said it was bad luck what happened. 109 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:43,240 Dreymon, Dreymon, Dreymon. 110 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:47,160 First of all the beginning of that statement is what irks me. 111 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:53,200 I usually don't apologize for things I intend to do like that's a weakness or something. 112 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:58,160 It's nothing wrong with admitting that you're wrong even when you intended to do it. 113 00:08:58,160 --> 00:09:00,680 There's no wrong in that. 114 00:09:00,680 --> 00:09:06,280 So this whole notion of you being this guy who not going to apologize even for intentional 115 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:09,560 actions you got to be a grown up Dreymon. 116 00:09:09,560 --> 00:09:11,440 What are you doing here? 117 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:16,360 Now what was even more damning is what Yusuf Nurkic said. 118 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:22,240 He said that brother needs help and also he's glad he didn't choke me. 119 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:24,760 Think about those statements guys. 120 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:30,320 Here you are a professional basketball player and this is what you have to say coming out 121 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:35,880 of a game that you glad that your opponent didn't choke you. 122 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:42,040 If this was MMA or wrestling or anything like that that's a statement we can look at and 123 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:43,400 understand. 124 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:46,000 This is the game of basketball. 125 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:50,680 No one should have to make that statement there and that's the problem. 126 00:09:50,680 --> 00:09:55,600 And I'm pretty sure the league heard that and had a raised eye about it. 127 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:56,600 And then Kevin Durant. 128 00:09:56,600 --> 00:09:58,880 Here's what he said. 129 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:02,280 I don't think it was immediately after the game but I think it was the next day. 130 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:03,880 But here's what he said. 131 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:06,040 That's not the Dreymon I know. 132 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:07,600 Hope he gets the help he needs. 133 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:12,880 You now have it from two different people and Kevin Durant is not a guy who speaks on 134 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:17,320 of a player especially to kind of diss them and so forth. 135 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:21,720 And even with his own team you know a lot of people especially when he goes with the 136 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:22,720 Nets. 137 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:28,720 One of him to speak to Kyrie when Kyrie was going through his stuff and he always refused. 138 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:34,520 So the fact that he's in front of a microphone he said this about Dreymon. 139 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:36,520 That's not good guys. 140 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:37,520 That's not good. 141 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:41,120 So you have all of this cumulative stuff happening here. 142 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:43,680 Oh let me go back to first take. 143 00:10:43,680 --> 00:10:49,080 Also on that Wednesday morning was Mad Dog Chris Russo. 144 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:50,880 And this is what he said. 145 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:57,640 Your everyday fan basically your fans outside of Golden State are sick of Dreymon Green. 146 00:10:57,640 --> 00:11:03,720 They're sick of him and his antics and they're pretty much done with him because you know 147 00:11:03,720 --> 00:11:09,800 he has a national radio show so he's hearing from all these different people and so forth. 148 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:15,640 Jay Williams was also on there and he said that he's not only a danger to himself but 149 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:18,520 to others and that's true. 150 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:20,920 And then I couple those guys there. 151 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:25,560 Rob Parker called Steve Curran Enabler which he is. 152 00:11:25,560 --> 00:11:30,880 I just spoke about that and that the players association needs to do something in this 153 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:31,980 matter. 154 00:11:31,980 --> 00:11:35,160 They need to intervene in some sort of way. 155 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:43,360 And then also two guys a side note Andre Igudala is actually the interim director of the players 156 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:44,720 association rather. 157 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:48,280 So you have somebody who was Dreymon's teammate. 158 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:50,720 So take that for what it's worth you know. 159 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:53,320 I'm sure that plays into things. 160 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:59,600 And then remember Joe Dumas himself the czar of discipline and all those sort of things. 161 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:02,600 He has a personal relationship with Dreymon Green. 162 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:05,960 Dreymon Green was around those piston teams. 163 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:11,560 The ones that Joe Dumas was the general manager of the ones that went to the finals back to 164 00:12:11,560 --> 00:12:15,400 back and won one final against the LA Lakers. 165 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:19,920 So Dreymon was around those guys there as a youngster of course. 166 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:22,840 So Dumas has a close relationship with him. 167 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:25,400 So you bear that in mind. 168 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:31,480 And then my guys on the given goal show Rick Kamala and Antonio Daniels. 169 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:34,040 They talked about the incident as well. 170 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:36,360 And they were pretty much live it. 171 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:37,960 Rick Kamala who loves everybody. 172 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:41,720 He was done with Dreymon and Antonio Daniels. 173 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:44,840 He just here's what he said. 174 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:48,880 Dreymon's intent whatever it was really doesn't matter. 175 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:54,320 It's the incident itself and why it's going to be dealt with a heavy hand. 176 00:12:54,320 --> 00:13:00,560 So with all that said, Joe Dumas makes his decision and he hands down an indefinite suspension 177 00:13:00,560 --> 00:13:02,320 to Dreymon Green. 178 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:04,120 The big question. 179 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:06,160 What does that look like? 180 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:07,360 Is it eight games? 181 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:08,480 Is it 10 games? 182 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:10,200 Is it 20 games? 183 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:16,520 Of course there's going to be thresholds that he must reach criteria that he must fulfill 184 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:21,560 including getting help, counseling also that's in there. 185 00:13:21,560 --> 00:13:25,680 So it's these all these different things that has to be reached in order for him to get 186 00:13:25,680 --> 00:13:26,680 back on the court. 187 00:13:26,680 --> 00:13:29,080 Could it take half a season? 188 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:31,080 Could it take all of the season? 189 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:32,880 We don't know. 190 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:37,920 And that afternoon after it was handed down, I listened to the given goal again. 191 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:43,560 Antonio Daniels pretty much called it and Rick Kamala agreed a cop out because they were 192 00:13:43,560 --> 00:13:50,800 more definitive about it concerning John Moran and of course his 25 game suspension of which 193 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:56,120 he will be available next week and then Kyrie Irvin with the situation with what he posted 194 00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:59,280 on social media and so forth. 195 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:03,880 But it's still where it's really no accountability. 196 00:14:03,880 --> 00:14:08,560 Sure it's indefinite and all those sort of things but what is the end game here? 197 00:14:08,560 --> 00:14:12,920 Of course, you know, I had to listen to the different shows and so forth. 198 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:15,320 The odd couple there, they talked about it. 199 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:19,680 Chris Musa said the late David Stern wouldn't even go for this. 200 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:21,080 It wouldn't even got this far. 201 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:26,200 He would have nipped it in the bud, gave him a suspension boom and could have very well 202 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:28,040 given him a season long one. 203 00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:35,680 But he did give kudos to Adam Silver for putting forth this suspension and then Rob Parker. 204 00:14:35,680 --> 00:14:40,680 He calls this because remember he's called Steve Curran enabler. 205 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:46,920 This is an indictment on the Golden State franchise, which I wholeheartedly agree. 206 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:53,560 They now are not in a position of doing much of anything concerning discipline of Dreemond. 207 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:56,280 They're not in that business right now anyway. 208 00:14:56,280 --> 00:15:02,640 And then you have First Take, which have Stephen A. Smith on, Kendrick Perkins is on there 209 00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:05,120 and Brian Wynne Horse. 210 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:08,080 This is what Stephen A. Smith pretty much said. 211 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:15,000 It's unfortunate, but unexcusable concerning Dreemond's actions, but it's well deserved. 212 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:17,320 And he's uncomfortable again. 213 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:20,480 Now he's uncomfortable with the words indefinite. 214 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:24,520 And he said he's lucky that David Stern isn't the current commissioner. 215 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:28,560 But I want to circle back to just his somber tone. 216 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:32,880 And here's what I want to say concerning Stephen A. Smith. 217 00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:38,240 You need to keep that same energy that you had for Zion when you said the man was so 218 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:40,920 fat and you was fat shaming him. 219 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:44,480 Keep that same energy when you said the man will eat the table. 220 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:45,960 That's how fatty is. 221 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:47,600 That's how gritty is. 222 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:49,120 Keep that same energy. 223 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:51,640 But no, you don't have that energy for Dreemond. 224 00:15:51,640 --> 00:15:52,640 Why? 225 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:57,040 Because, and I heard this with a lot of the guys making their statements anyway, that 226 00:15:57,040 --> 00:16:01,080 he's a good guy, personable so far. 227 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:06,320 So you have this relationship with him, but you're unwilling to go there with him and 228 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:08,040 call a spade a spade. 229 00:16:08,040 --> 00:16:14,840 I've been yelling from the rooftops the man has an anger issue that he needs anger management. 230 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:16,920 Nobody's willing to touch that. 231 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:21,560 Now everybody's like, yeah, he needs to deal with his anger so far. 232 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:24,120 And Stephen A. still won't even say that. 233 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:29,040 So this whole notion you could be bombastic about Zion. 234 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:35,120 And then you have this kind of timid sort of take on Dreemond. 235 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:39,360 That's the duplicity that people talk about when they talk about you. 236 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:40,680 That's duplicitous. 237 00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:47,120 The fact that you can rail against Zion, even so much so demands stepfather had to call 238 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:49,920 you and kind of check you. 239 00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:54,760 That's what I'm talking about with this guy, Stephen A. but I'll leave it alone there. 240 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:59,320 Kendrick Perkins, he said was fair on both sides. 241 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:05,920 Say he's lucky it's just an indefinite suspension, which a lot of people are pretty much saying 242 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:08,480 with an indefinite suspension. 243 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:10,760 It now leaves the ball in Dreemond's court. 244 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:15,760 What are you going to do concerning getting the help you need and so forth? 245 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:17,600 And he said something to that. 246 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:20,200 I'll say it now and then I'll circle back to it. 247 00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:25,160 The best player on the team isn't always the vocal leader. 248 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:30,280 Steph Curry is the best player yet Dreemond Green is the vocal leader. 249 00:17:30,280 --> 00:17:32,320 So file that away for now. 250 00:17:32,320 --> 00:17:37,640 Brian Wynhors, he pretty much said it's no longer about the punishment, but it's about 251 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:40,240 finding a cause. 252 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:46,000 And they're hoping that this is his last suspension, meaning that he go gets the help he needs 253 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:49,000 and he doesn't run into these issues here. 254 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:54,560 And he also says that the Golden State Warriors, they're no longer in control of what happens 255 00:17:54,560 --> 00:17:55,560 to Dreemond. 256 00:17:55,560 --> 00:17:58,040 And it's kind of what I just said a minute ago. 257 00:17:58,040 --> 00:18:01,720 There no longer in a position to discipline him or anything like that. 258 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:03,800 You had your chance and you blew it. 259 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:08,080 Now the league has had to come and clean up your mess for you. 260 00:18:08,080 --> 00:18:14,000 And also that Dreemond has run out of defenders because even when he choked Rudy Goldberg, 261 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:19,760 he had guys defending him for that because of course Rudy Goldberg kind of broke the 262 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:23,280 unwritten rule of grabbing a posing player. 263 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:28,160 So people kind of went to his defense in that regard, but you still can't choke on a guy. 264 00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:29,920 I mean, come on. 265 00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:39,600 And then Steve Smith, the basketball player, he was on NBA TV and he said that indefinitely 266 00:18:39,600 --> 00:18:44,240 to him means forever, potentially, if he doesn't get his act together. 267 00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:48,000 And that could be kind of true if he doesn't get his stuff together. 268 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:49,840 How you gonna allow him back on the court? 269 00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:53,280 So there's a bit of truth to that as well. 270 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:58,720 So you have all these different perspectives and then Joe Dumas himself came on the first 271 00:18:58,720 --> 00:19:05,000 take show, pretty much defending the reason that it's indefinite suspension, saying they're 272 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:09,320 more concerned about Dreemond getting the help he needs and so forth. 273 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:13,480 And then the final thing I'll probably talk about is this. 274 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:19,240 In the aftermath of this, Stephen A. Smith calls into question Steph Curry's leadership 275 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:24,720 and he says if this was LeBron James, we'd be holding them to a higher standard. 276 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:29,920 Why we don't hold Steph Curry to that same standard. 277 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:33,280 This is where I circle back to what Kendrick Perkins said. 278 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:38,920 Kendrick Perkins, a former player in the NBA, and he himself said the best player isn't 279 00:19:38,920 --> 00:19:41,800 always the vocal leader. 280 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:44,760 And I believe that about the Gold State Warriors. 281 00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:49,760 Steph Curry isn't going to be that guy getting in guys face and telling them what to do so 282 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:51,200 forth. 283 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:55,840 And Stephen A. actually pointed out the fact that Steph Curry went to Jordan Poole while 284 00:19:55,840 --> 00:19:59,520 he was on the team and kind of got on his case there. 285 00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:04,840 I think that's more of a one and done because of how Jordan Poole was. 286 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:07,000 He has jerk tendencies. 287 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:11,120 So Steph Curry isn't that vocal leader and he's your best player. 288 00:20:11,120 --> 00:20:12,960 So and that's okay. 289 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:15,800 That's fine that he's not a vocal leader. 290 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:16,880 That's perfectly fine. 291 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:21,240 I've seen it here in New York where Patrick Ewan wasn't the vocal leader. 292 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:25,360 We had other guys that was leaders in that locker room and that was fine. 293 00:20:25,360 --> 00:20:26,360 That was okay. 294 00:20:26,360 --> 00:20:32,960 In fact, that team that went to 1999 NBA finals, you know, it wasn't the vocal leader there. 295 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:37,560 It was guys like Larry Johnson, it was guys like Spreewell. 296 00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:41,080 Those guys were kind of the leaders at that point. 297 00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:47,760 But this whole notion that the best player should be the vocal leader, that's not true. 298 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:51,560 And furthermore, what if Steph Curry did have a conversation with Draymond? 299 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:55,720 It's just that the cameras weren't rolling and nobody's reporting on it. 300 00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:57,200 Is that a possibility? 301 00:20:57,200 --> 00:20:59,720 Absolutely 100%. 302 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:05,760 So with that said, Steve Kerr fired back at the notion of Steph Curry not being a good 303 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:08,720 leader and he called it disgusting. 304 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:13,080 And it sounds like the rantings of someone who's in need of clicks. 305 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:15,960 To which Stephen A. Smith took a reception to that. 306 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:20,680 He clapped back saying that first of all, he tried to double back and say he didn't 307 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:24,560 call Steph Curry a bad leader, which he pretty much did. 308 00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:28,040 And that he doesn't need clicks because he has to remind the world he has the number 309 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:36,360 one sports talk show on TV and so forth, which to me is kind of shows your insecurity about 310 00:21:36,360 --> 00:21:40,320 yourself and that you can't stand on what you said. 311 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:42,400 That I'll just leave it at that. 312 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:48,960 So in totality guys, this situation here, not good, definitely not good. 313 00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:53,840 And listen, as a fan of basketball, I would like to see the man get help. 314 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:58,200 I would like to see him change his ways in that regard and deal with what he's dealing 315 00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:02,480 with because there is something that's going on beneath it all. 316 00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:07,600 There's something going on here in that he needs to get to the bottom of, you know, of 317 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:12,280 course on social media, people are like, Oh, there's nothing wrong with him. 318 00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:18,120 He's just, he just gets a little worked up or Oh, this is child's play compared to the 319 00:22:18,120 --> 00:22:20,120 80s and 90s. 320 00:22:20,120 --> 00:22:27,880 And I say you're in a different time and space now, you're in a more image conscious NBA, 321 00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:29,760 where this sort of stuff matters. 322 00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:35,920 And the fact that that game was on national television, even more so, the NBA had to do 323 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:39,320 something and had to do something substantial. 324 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:41,640 Thus the indefinite suspended. 325 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:43,880 Can I predict when he'll be back? 326 00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:46,360 I wish I could guys I can't. 327 00:22:46,360 --> 00:22:49,080 It all lies with Dre Maugh. 328 00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:50,880 What does Dre Maugh want to do? 329 00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:56,600 I know one thing Steve Kerr is really going to have to really earn that coaching check 330 00:22:56,600 --> 00:23:01,880 because you're going to be without a guy who's instrumental to your success. 331 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:05,920 You got a promising young guy and Jonathan Kaminga. 332 00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:12,280 You're going to have to just rework the offense, retool the defense and you're just going to 333 00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:17,240 have to figure out how to continue life without Dre Maugh for the foreseeable future. 334 00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:20,360 All right guys, so I'm going to leave it there. 335 00:23:20,360 --> 00:23:22,880 You know, we'll see what happens with this guy. 336 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:26,160 All right guys, I'm going to end it right here. 337 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:31,080 And once again, thank you as always for listening to the podcast as much appreciate it. 338 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:35,920 I had to do this special episode because the news just came down. 339 00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:41,160 I had to hear from the different talking heads and kind of formulate my thoughts that way 340 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:43,600 and boom, here you go. 341 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:44,600 Here's the episode. 342 00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:52,680 So with that said guys, I'll be back again and then also sleeping peace for Hall of Famer 343 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:54,520 George McGinnis. 344 00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:58,200 I'm hoping to do a couple of player spotlights coming up. 345 00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:00,520 I hope to get those done. 346 00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:03,440 Maybe coming into the new year I'll work on those. 347 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:06,280 It's a few players that I need to talk about. 348 00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:10,360 So I'll work on that and of course your weekly highlights as always. 349 00:24:10,360 --> 00:24:15,400 So with that said, I thank you for listening as always and we'll talk soon. 350 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:18,400 Take care. 351 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:20,040 Hello my peeps. 352 00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:25,000 Thank you for listening and supporting the All Things Basketball with GD Podcasts. 353 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:29,880 You can find us on our website, allthingsbasketballwithgd.com. 354 00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:36,600 You could also email us at that sportsduegd at gmail.com. 355 00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:39,760 Also listen and watch us on YouTube. 356 00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:42,480 All Things Basketball GD. 357 00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:44,720 Hit the like button when you see our videos. 358 00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:48,800 Also write a blurb about our show. 359 00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:53,960 You can listen to us on all podcast platforms including Spotify and Apple. 360 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:56,880 Leave a review for us at Apple. 361 00:24:56,880 --> 00:25:02,480 On the website you can support us by hitting the buy me a coffee button, support on anchor 362 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:06,760 button or donate on PayPal. 363 00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:12,240 You can also support us by our cash app, GD That Sports Dude. 364 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:37,960 Once again I thank you for listening and supporting the show and do take care.