1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,840 One. 2 00:00:01,980 --> 00:00:04,800 All right, welcome to Ocean Water podcast, 3 00:00:04,800 --> 00:00:08,000 the voice of the indigenous water movement. 4 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:11,080 My guest today is a good friend, Drew Tevez. 5 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:15,820 We've been in the water in Fiji, in Mexico, 6 00:00:15,820 --> 00:00:17,680 off of the coast of Northern California, 7 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:20,200 in El Salvador together. 8 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:24,240 Drew does five or six backflips at a time. 9 00:00:24,240 --> 00:00:25,860 He's a standup comedian. 10 00:00:25,860 --> 00:00:28,680 He's incredibly good at baby making, 11 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:31,280 as evidenced by his four kids. 12 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:33,040 One of my best friends. 13 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:36,240 And he founded and leads Aloha Church 14 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:38,000 in San Diego, California. 15 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:40,480 And I'm just stoked to have you on today, bro. 16 00:00:40,480 --> 00:00:42,200 Thank you so much. 17 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:43,040 Yeah, man. 18 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:43,880 Yeah. 19 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:46,760 So Drew, what is your, let's start out. 20 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:51,440 What's your go-to order at your favorite hometown restaurant? 21 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:53,360 Well, you're probably like me. 22 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:55,400 We don't eat out too much, save money. 23 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:57,360 But if I was to get someone to eat, 24 00:00:57,360 --> 00:01:01,040 I'll get a good traditional poke bowl. 25 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:04,280 I say traditional because there's lots of trendy places. 26 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:07,280 So don't put all that crap on my fish. 27 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:09,340 Just how I like my life, simple. 28 00:01:09,340 --> 00:01:11,800 So that'll tell you a lot about me. 29 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:14,480 Yeah. 30 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:17,040 In fact, last time we had dinner with you and Trish, 31 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:20,300 which was like a year ago, a year and a half ago, 32 00:01:20,300 --> 00:01:22,080 I think we brought, we didn't bring poke over, 33 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:23,840 but we brought sushi over. 34 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:26,360 So you definitely like fresh fish. 35 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:27,200 Yeah. 36 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:28,040 All right, man. 37 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:30,480 So for our audience, why don't you tell everyone 38 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:33,480 what you're doing these days and how you got into it. 39 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:36,080 Go ahead and just take a couple minutes and talk about that. 40 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:37,120 A couple minutes, okay, cool. 41 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:41,920 Well, currently we started a brand new church 42 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:44,280 here in Pacific Beach, San Diego, 43 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:47,760 and it's a new church, very, very different 44 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:51,920 than what I've been in this culture of like large church. 45 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:55,480 So we wanted to bring a little bit of my culture, 46 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:58,560 which is from Hawaii and the Aloha spirit 47 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:01,800 and sprinkle that back here in San Diego. 48 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:06,800 We saw a need and we just felt that was what we 49 00:02:07,380 --> 00:02:11,320 wanted to really do and we were very, very scared. 50 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:14,200 We had little, like little support, 51 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:17,360 but we just knew that God called us to do this. 52 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:19,240 And at the end of our life, 53 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:20,780 my wife and I looked at each other and we're like, 54 00:02:20,780 --> 00:02:23,840 at the end of our life, what's the story that we wanna tell? 55 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:25,640 What's the story that we wanna tell? 56 00:02:25,640 --> 00:02:26,880 We wanna live by faith. 57 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:29,640 Cause the Bible says the only way to please God is by faith. 58 00:02:29,640 --> 00:02:33,600 So not if I have a big job or a title or make money 59 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:36,020 or how many houses, all that stuff. 60 00:02:36,020 --> 00:02:38,680 In the end of my life, to look back, 61 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:41,680 to leave a legacy to my kids and my family, my friends is, 62 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:45,840 my daddy, my husband, my boy had faith. 63 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:50,160 And for us, that was our faith was to start a church. 64 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:51,120 It's meant not everybody's, 65 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:54,000 but everybody has look at the end of your life. 66 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:55,260 And I'm 46 years old. 67 00:02:55,260 --> 00:02:57,600 So, you know, it might be halfway over. 68 00:02:57,600 --> 00:03:00,160 I don't know, but you start to think of those things 69 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:04,000 when you become like 30, 40 years old, you're like, 70 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:06,440 gosh, you take an inventory of your life 71 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:08,880 and the story you wanna tell. 72 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:11,280 So I'm a full time. 73 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:15,440 Well, I have so much respect for you and for your wife. 74 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:20,440 And I remember being there for the first gathering 75 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:21,880 at Mission Bay High School. 76 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:24,740 And then I've been back six times. 77 00:03:24,740 --> 00:03:27,840 And every time I love it and look forward to it. 78 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:30,160 And so good, man. 79 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:33,880 So what do you wish you had known 80 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:36,320 kind of like when you started out? 81 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:39,920 Started out the church or the church is about, 82 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:41,480 we're about a year and a half into it. 83 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:44,640 So start out ministry in general, or just in the church? 84 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:46,400 I would say when you started the church, 85 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:50,400 what do you wish that you knew when you had started Aloha? 86 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:52,440 Okay, pretty good. 87 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:56,560 I think you're never shocked with people. 88 00:03:56,560 --> 00:03:59,160 We just sometimes disappointed, you know? 89 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:01,800 And one of my values, the first A in Aloha 90 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:03,080 is actions over words. 91 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:05,400 And that's just something like in me 92 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:08,080 to say I'm gonna do something and come to find out 93 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:11,380 a lot of the people that say they're gonna help 94 00:04:11,380 --> 00:04:14,680 or be there, they just don't. 95 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:18,720 But some people, God just brings random people 96 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:22,000 that you never would expect to support, 97 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:25,200 to pray for you, just to be in the water with you. 98 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:30,200 So just don't base, don't put my trust in people. 99 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:34,960 Obviously it's God and always be watching what God's gonna do. 100 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:38,640 So sometimes we try to, we walk with our sight 101 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:42,860 on the people or stuff that we know or finances or things. 102 00:04:42,860 --> 00:04:45,020 But really, man, you gotta just be very open 103 00:04:45,020 --> 00:04:47,440 to watch what God is doing. 104 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:50,280 And then you're never gonna be shocked 105 00:04:50,280 --> 00:04:52,600 or disappointed in people because you're gonna be 106 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:54,800 just super stoked on what God is doing. 107 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:56,440 And then your friend that told you something 108 00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:58,880 that didn't ever, it's okay because you're not 109 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:01,240 super bummed at him, you just know that 110 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:03,640 just God's working out a whole different plan. 111 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:06,160 So it helps you trust God more than trusting people 112 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:07,880 or your own plan, does that make sense? 113 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:09,880 That makes total sense. 114 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:14,200 I've always resonated with the actions part. 115 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:16,760 In fact, that's how you and I grew up. 116 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:18,420 When you and I were growing up, 117 00:05:18,420 --> 00:05:20,320 you didn't run your mouth about stuff. 118 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:25,120 You let what you did speak for itself 119 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:30,120 and then other people told other people about you. 120 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:31,840 That was how we grew up. 121 00:05:31,840 --> 00:05:35,360 And it's funny now because you and I are actually 122 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:39,040 talking up now because the world's changed 123 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:43,200 and we wanna have a voice with the culture that's changed. 124 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:44,800 When you and I were growing up, 125 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:49,040 if we had ran our mouth, we would've got hit or beat up. 126 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:54,040 Now people just, it's just changed, the world's changed. 127 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:55,320 Yeah. 128 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:57,920 Less people are getting knocked out for stuff these days. 129 00:05:57,920 --> 00:05:59,260 I think that kinda like, 130 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:03,960 if I would've had my Instagram and for all the cool, 131 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:07,880 I would be, my mouth wouldn't be so, 132 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:09,280 I'm missing some teeth. 133 00:06:09,280 --> 00:06:10,120 Yes, yes. 134 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:12,440 You and I as well, and you and I have joked a lot about that, 135 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:14,720 about how much culture's changed and the world's changed, 136 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:15,840 but it does. 137 00:06:15,840 --> 00:06:18,360 And so that's one of the reasons we're actually, 138 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:21,800 that you and I have actually chosen very deliberately 139 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:24,060 to use video and to talk. 140 00:06:24,060 --> 00:06:25,680 And that's been an adjustment 141 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:27,440 that you and I have had to make. 142 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:28,260 It is true. 143 00:06:28,260 --> 00:06:29,960 I wanna be an influencer now. 144 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:31,240 Sorry, dad. 145 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:33,460 Sorry, dad, I wanna be an influencer. 146 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:37,320 It's funny, people will have asked me, 147 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:39,160 they're like, how come I didn't know 148 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:43,200 that you rode your bicycle 10,000 miles through 10 countries? 149 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:47,000 And a lot of my answer is, well, the way that I was raised 150 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:48,920 was if you do something, 151 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:51,740 you don't go and tell everyone about it. 152 00:06:51,740 --> 00:06:52,580 So I've- 153 00:06:52,580 --> 00:06:54,360 You have to take a picture every block, 154 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:55,460 you'd have to take a new picture. 155 00:06:55,460 --> 00:06:57,320 So you'd have to be riding your bike, 156 00:06:57,320 --> 00:06:58,920 rolling around, saying, you know. 157 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:00,040 That's fine, that's fine. 158 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:03,520 So now we're speaking up now because we wanna connect 159 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:06,960 and be able to be really helpful, 160 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:09,160 because you and I have been through the school of hard knocks. 161 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:10,960 You and I have learned a lot of hard lessons, 162 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:14,520 a lot of hard thought lessons to get to where we are. 163 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:17,160 So now we wanna take that and put it out there 164 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:18,600 in a way that we can really help people 165 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:19,440 that are younger than us. 166 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:22,000 So let me ask you this, man. 167 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:24,880 Like, what are you really curious about 168 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:25,880 right now in your life? 169 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:27,560 You and Trish have a wonderful marriage. 170 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:30,040 Your guys' family is something I look up to 171 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:31,800 and I have so much respect for. 172 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:34,600 What are you really interested in right now in your life? 173 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:36,320 What are you curious about? 174 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:37,640 Well, in the moment we're talking about 175 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:40,960 in the middle of like day, whatever, week four of COVID, 176 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:43,000 worldwide crisis and all that. 177 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:45,240 So I'm just really curious to really see 178 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:49,940 like how church is shifting, how church is changing. 179 00:07:49,940 --> 00:07:53,320 And I really interested in like, as I said, 180 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:57,720 how I like my poke, right, is like traditional. 181 00:07:57,720 --> 00:08:00,840 So I like to see maybe just the factory default 182 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:06,360 set back to the ancient way Jesus did church. 183 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:09,600 You know, when he died and when he came back, 184 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:12,440 he didn't tell Peter to go run the children's ministry. 185 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:16,160 He didn't sit, he sat and he rested. 186 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:19,520 And without the help of social media and lights 187 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:22,720 and production and service planning and all this stuff, 188 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:27,720 man, the gospel spread the fastest in a time of crisis. 189 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:30,080 And the good news spread the fastest. 190 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:33,520 It changed the world the most by unnamed people 191 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:38,520 in unnamed places, loving people face to face. 192 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:40,760 Aloha means face to face. 193 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:43,520 So that's what we're trying to just get back 194 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:48,520 to the ancient way of what Jesus actually did. 195 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:50,160 And it worked. 196 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:54,320 So I think the world is by default or by under, 197 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:57,360 like you can be arrested for actually doing anything. 198 00:08:57,360 --> 00:09:00,080 So it's a kind of a blessing in disguise. 199 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:01,520 It's very unfortunate to see. 200 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:03,160 I mean, there's a lot of unfortunate things, 201 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:05,800 but in far as the church and the gospel, 202 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:09,680 people are super open, very open. 203 00:09:09,680 --> 00:09:11,520 Your neighbors are very open, 204 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:15,560 just I think how it was in the beginning. 205 00:09:15,560 --> 00:09:18,520 So that's really curious for me. 206 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:21,880 It's very curious to see even in like as a church leader, 207 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:25,520 how many in church world we're being exposed. 208 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:28,520 So the things that we maybe as church leaders, 209 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:31,160 I'm not talking as big or small, 210 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:34,640 but what they really put their trust in is being exposed. 211 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:39,640 It's easy to talk about faith and to hire a staff 212 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:42,280 and to do stuff when things are really good 213 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:43,240 and incomes come in. 214 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:45,440 But when push comes to shove, 215 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:49,320 when the stuff hits the fan and we're really hot water, 216 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:52,920 and we have to, your idols are being exposed 217 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:55,080 of what you really, really put your trust in. 218 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:58,800 So our only hope should be Jesus. 219 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:00,080 I feel a lot of times people, 220 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:03,440 their hope is Jesus and church services, 221 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:06,760 Jesus and jobs and Jesus and all those kinds of stuff, 222 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:07,960 especially in the Western world. 223 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:11,640 So I'm curious just to really, really see, 224 00:10:12,500 --> 00:10:15,000 I'm hoping a lot of people would raise up 225 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:16,520 even some of the underground people 226 00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:19,440 that are just trying to love their neighbors. 227 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:21,240 We talk about what it takes to be a pastor. 228 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:22,800 A lot of times people think being a pastor 229 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:24,720 is a job at a church. 230 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:26,000 When you and I were, I was saying, 231 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:29,400 man, one, you gotta love God and you gotta love people. 232 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:30,600 If you love God and people, 233 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:34,040 Jesus is gonna make it move and make it happen. 234 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:36,800 You're gonna be just super stoked walking by faith. 235 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:39,960 So that's a story. 236 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:40,800 That's so good. 237 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:43,360 I love what you said about factory default. 238 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:48,360 And I love what you said about people that are underground. 239 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:49,920 And it's the paradox, right? 240 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:54,400 Of the people that are underground and off the radar 241 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:59,400 is what connects with people and what God uses. 242 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:03,080 And so how do we get the message out 243 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:07,420 about being underground without going mainstream? 244 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:09,600 So good. 245 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:12,080 I mean, I love that we have friends 246 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:13,240 like in the surfing community 247 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:15,880 and I've always loved the guys that are shaping boards 248 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:16,960 like in their backyard. 249 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:19,720 I mean, I had a shaping thing back in my yard, 250 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:21,160 trying to shape boards and stuff. 251 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:22,920 And then they have all, then everybody's like, 252 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:24,880 the guys are just like surfing is awesome. 253 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:27,200 And then they start, well, there's two worlds, right? 254 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:28,880 There's the business world, the corporate, 255 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:32,320 or pumping out boards or pumping out coffee 256 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:33,800 or whatever it is or clothing. 257 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:36,840 And then you've got the guy like in his backyard 258 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:38,760 grinding it because he loves it 259 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:39,920 and his friends are loving it 260 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:41,720 and it's spreading through word of mouth 261 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:43,160 and not putting up posters. 262 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:45,800 And that's how the gospel, I think, 263 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:48,360 best spreads through word of mouth, 264 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:51,400 through face to face, around tables, around meals, 265 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:54,400 and we slow down and be with people. 266 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:58,160 So I think in that sense, it's really good. 267 00:11:58,160 --> 00:11:59,000 So good, man. 268 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:00,760 In fact, one of the guys I'm gonna have on here soon 269 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:04,000 is Ashton Pipkle and he's exactly who you just described. 270 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:05,120 He lives here in San Clemente 271 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:08,120 and he shapes board in his garage and he shreds 272 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:09,720 and you'll love him. 273 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:11,920 So I can't wait to have him on as well. 274 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:16,920 So what is something that you have failed at? 275 00:12:17,880 --> 00:12:21,120 Yeah, man, lots of things. 276 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:22,360 Being an influencer. 277 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:28,360 Personally, I fail at being a husband every day. 278 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:30,280 I speak a different love language than my wife. 279 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:33,040 She likes gifts and stuff and I just wanna like 280 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:35,000 take out the trash and clean up everything. 281 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:36,640 So I'm still learning that. 282 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:38,160 I've been married for 20 years. 283 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:39,840 I have four kids. 284 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:42,080 Just today, leaving the house, I was like so pissed. 285 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:43,560 I was just like yelled at my three-year-old. 286 00:12:43,560 --> 00:12:45,400 I'm like, sit down, eat your breakfast, I gotta go. 287 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:46,600 And I'm like, oh, I just failed there. 288 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:48,440 So we're always failing. 289 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:52,760 I think sometimes in church world, we think of failures, 290 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:54,480 but really they're experiments. 291 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:55,320 You know what I mean? 292 00:12:55,320 --> 00:12:56,320 Because we're always trying like, 293 00:12:56,320 --> 00:12:59,360 I think with really good intentions, 294 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:02,560 I've tried to get the gospel out or help people 295 00:13:02,560 --> 00:13:07,000 or do a program with good intentions and then they fail. 296 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:09,320 Not failures, they're experiments. 297 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:15,720 So I think we have to maybe redefine the term failure. 298 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:18,600 If you have good intentions and you're trying, 299 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:21,040 I mean, did Jesus fail in picking the disciples? 300 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:23,040 Those guys are a bunch of bananas. 301 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:25,980 Peter tried to murder somebody, Judas betrayed him. 302 00:13:25,980 --> 00:13:27,540 Did Jesus fail with these guys? 303 00:13:27,540 --> 00:13:30,640 No, he uses people and people are failures. 304 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:31,600 People are broken. 305 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:34,880 So in a sense, I've never failed. 306 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:35,720 That's kidding. 307 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:38,880 That's good, so good. 308 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:42,720 So, let's keep the corner a little bit. 309 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:47,720 What would you describe as the current water situation 310 00:13:49,560 --> 00:13:50,760 in the world? 311 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:52,600 This is the Ocean Water Podcast. 312 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:56,240 The reason why we're doing this is because we wanna be 313 00:13:56,240 --> 00:13:58,840 the voice for the indigenous water movement. 314 00:13:58,840 --> 00:14:01,560 We want people to be having this conversation. 315 00:14:01,560 --> 00:14:05,840 So how would you describe the current water situation 316 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:07,080 in the world? 317 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:09,720 Wow, man, water situation in the world 318 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:13,600 is an actual real problem, right? 319 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:14,440 Yes. 320 00:14:14,440 --> 00:14:17,440 So I think just COVID stuff is a passing. 321 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:22,360 I would be shocked to have the hearers listen 322 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:26,480 to actual how many people and kids die of water 323 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:31,080 or bad water every day is gonna blow any virus away. 324 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:32,760 But we live in the Western world, 325 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:34,240 so we don't really wanna hear those things. 326 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:37,040 And it's not really our problem, but it's a huge problem. 327 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:40,520 From what I understand, Ryan, only eight or nine countries 328 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:44,360 in the world actually have access to clean drinking water. 329 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:47,680 And from what I understand is of all the water in the world, 330 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:51,160 97% is in the ocean, 3% is drinkable, 331 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:54,640 and of the 3%, I think only less than 1%, 332 00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:56,840 less than 1% is actually drinkable, 333 00:14:56,840 --> 00:14:59,280 and it's all in glaciers and bottled water. 334 00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:02,000 And the same amount of water that's drinkable today 335 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:03,680 is the same amount of water that was drinkable 336 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:06,560 thousands of years ago, but yet we have three times 337 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:08,080 the amount of people. 338 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:10,800 So that's a real problem. 339 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:14,080 Yep, bingo, bingo. 340 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:19,080 So what do you think of the work 341 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:22,440 and the approach that ocean water uses? 342 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:27,800 I think it's, I can't believe anybody has actually like, 343 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:29,600 it's like, it's right under your nose, 344 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:31,240 and then you kind of figure it out. 345 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:33,760 And then that's super important, 346 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:37,560 because not only are we, you and ocean water together 347 00:15:37,560 --> 00:15:41,920 is helping people solve a real problem with drinking water, 348 00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:45,280 and then Jesus comes in supernaturally 349 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:47,360 are able to give people living water. 350 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:50,120 So it's just, it's like a no brainer. 351 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:53,000 So thank you for all your work, bro. 352 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:54,320 That's awesome. 353 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:56,760 And I'm super stoked to be a part of it. 354 00:15:56,760 --> 00:15:58,720 Yeah, well, I'm honored to be your friend, 355 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:00,080 and I'm glad we get to do this together. 356 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:02,680 And which leads me to my next question, 357 00:16:02,680 --> 00:16:06,000 how are you involved and how is Aloha involved? 358 00:16:07,280 --> 00:16:09,760 Oh, I think for one, we have the, 359 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:11,880 what we call the bro network. 360 00:16:11,880 --> 00:16:12,720 Yeah. 361 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:14,920 So you want to be involved in the bro network, 362 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:17,920 there's no papers assigned, you just become our friend. 363 00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:19,840 And you just follow us or share, 364 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:24,720 just be a person who just loves people. 365 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:26,080 You didn't have to even love Jesus 366 00:16:26,080 --> 00:16:28,320 to be a part of the bro network for water, right? 367 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:29,600 Yeah. 368 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:31,200 How many involved, well, we're friends, 369 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:35,000 and then I help raise awareness 370 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:36,960 of saying people real problems 371 00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:39,280 and talk about the water situation in the world. 372 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:42,840 Two, I give people opportunities to support 373 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:45,120 what's happening with ocean water, 374 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:47,480 support prayerfully, support financially, 375 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:50,440 just be stoked on the work. 376 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:53,520 Four, I don't know if I had three or four, 377 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:55,760 four, we bring people on trips. 378 00:16:55,760 --> 00:16:57,800 So we're able to bring people from Aloha 379 00:16:57,800 --> 00:17:01,160 or from the San Diego, California community together 380 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:04,720 on trips under the banner of just like loving people, 381 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:06,640 helping people out. 382 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:09,040 These people don't have to be part of our church 383 00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:14,040 or love Jesus or even, they have to make you drink water. 384 00:17:14,120 --> 00:17:15,320 That's a bad thing. 385 00:17:15,320 --> 00:17:16,960 Yeah, water's a necessity. 386 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:18,800 So just so I can understand. 387 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:20,440 So many ways to be connected. 388 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:21,440 Yeah. 389 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:25,000 So Drew and I have been to El Salvador together three times 390 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:27,600 and we're praying about next year, 391 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:29,840 we have opportunities in El Salvador, 392 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:34,360 we have a trip to India, we have a trip to Indonesia, 393 00:17:34,360 --> 00:17:36,000 we're praying Drew gets to come to Indonesia. 394 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:39,560 Yay, Lord provide the money and may Trish say yes. 395 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:44,560 And so what ways would you recommend people 396 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:50,160 get involved and how? 397 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:53,480 I think there's many ways to get involved. 398 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:56,520 Just learn about water, learn about real problems, 399 00:17:56,520 --> 00:17:58,920 get out of like your own little bubble in the world 400 00:17:58,920 --> 00:18:03,920 of like just not having an entitlement, you know what I mean? 401 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:08,560 Love people, ask the Lord how to get involved. 402 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:09,920 That takes time. 403 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:12,520 Two would be explore some of the stuff 404 00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:14,440 on the Ocean Water website, 405 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:16,640 actually learn about water in the world. 406 00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:21,760 And I think there's a great commission, 407 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:24,000 we all know that the great commandment love people, 408 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:26,920 but I think there's what someone says, 409 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:30,080 the great compassion, you know, it's just like, 410 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:33,520 people don't, people, there's not people going on missions 411 00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:34,680 because they don't have the money, 412 00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:37,040 but this is because they lack compassion. 413 00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:40,080 And Jesus saw they didn't have a shepherd. 414 00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:44,600 So when Jesus saw people, he saw them and he had compassion. 415 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:46,880 So that's when Jesus healed people or reached out. 416 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:50,120 So when people see it or learn about it 417 00:18:50,120 --> 00:18:52,280 and then actually meet real people, 418 00:18:52,280 --> 00:18:55,280 their heart will break and then they'll want to 419 00:18:55,280 --> 00:18:57,680 control their own spending and their own life 420 00:18:57,680 --> 00:19:00,440 to then maybe have money to help. 421 00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:02,280 And it's not a big financially, 422 00:19:02,280 --> 00:19:04,560 but it's just help send someone on a trip 423 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:09,240 or go on a trip or just raise the awareness of it. 424 00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:11,160 Yeah, trip. 425 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:12,760 Having your heart break for people, 426 00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:16,160 having heartbreak for kids, like real kids and real people, 427 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:18,600 just like you and me, with dads like us, 428 00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:23,040 they're trying to give their kids life, you know? 429 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:24,840 Compassion, the rest is easy. 430 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:28,200 I know for me, the trips over the years 431 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:33,040 have been the most perspective changing thing 432 00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:34,800 that I've been a part of. 433 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:37,040 It's like you understand that the tension you feel 434 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:40,000 when you're trying to teach a concept or a principle 435 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:45,000 and yet the experience of being, 436 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:48,080 of going on a plane and being in another country 437 00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:50,040 and speaking another language 438 00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:52,080 and interacting with a different culture, 439 00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:54,640 and this is different than a vacation. 440 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:59,640 Vacation is not, we do travel, 441 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:03,560 we do have fun, we do have a good time. 442 00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:06,120 But the difference between going on a vacation 443 00:20:06,120 --> 00:20:09,480 and going on a trip where you leave something behind, 444 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:13,320 where you leave a system in place 445 00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:17,680 that helps people drink water from the ocean, 446 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:20,520 where they can have the water that they need, 447 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:23,240 where they can grow their own food, 448 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:27,480 and you leave a part of yourself behind 449 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:29,240 on every trip that we go on. 450 00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:32,840 We leave a little less of that materialism 451 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:37,360 that creeps in just by virtue of living in California. 452 00:20:37,360 --> 00:20:38,920 It just happens. 453 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:40,520 I feel like this, I feel like a vacation 454 00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:42,520 is like going to a restaurant with your wife 455 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:45,560 and then buying food and then tipping the waiter 456 00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:47,960 and you have a conversation with you and your wife 457 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:50,080 and you're eating all this food. 458 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:53,360 A trip is like going to a friend's house, right? 459 00:20:53,360 --> 00:20:56,680 And then you bring food and you talk with the other couple 460 00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:59,160 and you share life stories and you sit 461 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:01,600 and there's investment and there's giving and taking 462 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:03,320 and it's a way better experience. 463 00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:05,720 So some people just like vacations. 464 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:07,760 I think it's taking. 465 00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:12,040 The trip is giving and it's based on relationships. 466 00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:15,760 So I'd much rather eat at my friend's house. 467 00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:18,840 It's a little less expensive too. 468 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:21,200 So good, Drew. 469 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:22,880 This has been wonderful. 470 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:26,960 Thank you for taking time out of your day 471 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:29,920 so that we can pass on some of the things 472 00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:31,960 that we've learned in the School of Hard Knocks. 473 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:33,720 We've learned along the way. 474 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:37,880 We wanna be helpful to people that are coming up. 475 00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:40,360 And do you have any last words? 476 00:21:40,360 --> 00:21:41,800 We have a couple minutes left here. 477 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:45,800 Any last words you wanna say to everyone today? 478 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:51,520 Yeah, I wanna say that if you cruise with the Bro Network 479 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:54,800 or following Jesus is that you, 480 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:57,280 I think Ryan and myself would give, 481 00:21:57,280 --> 00:21:59,840 we wanna give more people permission 482 00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:02,920 and release more people to go love people 483 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:07,000 than I think a lot of people have been handed down 484 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:12,000 this idea of what ministry or church or helping people out 485 00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:17,360 should look like, but really it starts with compassion. 486 00:22:17,360 --> 00:22:18,680 It starts with loving people. 487 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:23,080 And Jesus opens up many, many, many, many doors. 488 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:26,400 And then two donkeys like us. 489 00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:29,280 Got that right. 490 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:32,280 Have the awesome stories of like looking back in our life 491 00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:34,520 and be like, wow, God's hand was in all that 492 00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:36,600 because I know Ryan and myself, 493 00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:39,280 we would never would have ever accomplished any of this stuff 494 00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:42,520 if we tried to figure it out in our own brains. 495 00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:43,360 No. 496 00:22:43,360 --> 00:22:46,680 So just go for the ride. 497 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:47,960 Yeah, thanks Drew. 498 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:49,840 Well, hey, I just wanna say on behalf of everybody 499 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:52,320 who's gonna hear this, thank you for taking your time, dude. 500 00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:53,800 We just love you and Trish. 501 00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:56,360 Have so much genuine respect for you guys. 502 00:22:56,360 --> 00:22:57,180 Thanks. 503 00:22:57,180 --> 00:22:58,240 And thank you for your time today. 504 00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:00,920 We hope this is helpful to everybody who listened. 505 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:02,920 And we hope that you all have a wonderful day. 506 00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:07,920 Thank you so much.