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talk I have with me today Mitch Marmelstein. Mitch played professional

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basketball down in Argentina and he is from California and really an honor to

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have him on our water talk today. And so Mitch you're actually headed back to

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Argentina on on Monday. May 3rd. So tell everyone how you got to this place

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where you're headed back. Yeah and so I guess my story starts off as a basketball

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player and I've been passionate basketball my whole life ever since fifth

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grade and have played basketball at the high school level and the college level

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played college basketball at Grove City College in Pennsylvania and my senior

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year I had this vision this dream put into my heart by God and I felt like God

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wanted to be me to be an international basketball missionary and had this

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vision to to that I was gonna go play basketball for years in other countries

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and share the gospel and all around the world and so I decided to give that

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dream to God and I started to grow out my hair until he accomplished what I

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feel like he was promising me and so three years later I was playing I've

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seen the photos yeah surely he has like hair down to here it took a look up the

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picture right now well I'm telling the story and then I'll show you guys but uh

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I was playing some semi-professional basketball in San Diego and there was

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nobody in the stands except for one guy and my family and this guy he just gave

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me his card after a game three years later after I made this agreement with

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God and he said I'm an agent I am looking for to send players down to

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Mendoza Argentina and I remember he got me a contract three years later talk

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about a divine appointment and answered prayers and a much-needed haircut I was

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in desperate need for that but uh and then here's my hair for all the viewers

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just to see right here you guys could see that that's three years of growing

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hair right there nice prison photo bribe in a yeah I was really trying to you

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know be conformed to the image of Jesus you know literally but okay so so so

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you're um so God answered that prayer and you ended up you ended up playing

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down there you guys ended up winning a state title yeah you had a blinds yet

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you had a blast you had a look you had a little knee issue you came home yeah

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it's did some rehab and then and then and then what happened yeah so the MRI

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showed a grade four cartilage defect in my left knee and I asked the doctor like

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so what I do about that he's just trick-or-treat he's like you don't grow

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back cartilage so I fell into a depression I fell into a really low

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valley at that moment and because this vision God has given me I was like is

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that it is that the whole thing like now I just got to move on with my life and I

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remember in my lowest moment I was reading in Genesis and through the story

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of Jacob when he was running away from Esau all right yeah Esau and God spoke

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to Jacob he said he said I am with you he said I will be with you and I will

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bring you back to this land until I've done what I've promised you and I

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remember at that moment he was speaking directly to my heart that he was going

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to bring me back to Argentina in some capacity someday and he gave me that

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promise and from that moment in game though you know yet for me it seemed

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like waiting but to God it was training and he just he introduced me to the so

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many people during this time he introduced me to pastor Ryan and in

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November and you know one of the during this whole time I felt like God gave me

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a calling as well to be a pastor and I I say this because two pastors before

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they two pastors have asked me have you ever considered being a pastor and at

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the time I was like no I'm just a hooper like that's this is all I do like I'm

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not really concerned about being a pastor but this call has been on my life

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a long time and then and then pastor Ryan you were the first one to call me

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what I already was and call me pastor Mitch and it all clicked for me and I

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just realized I wanted to to feed his sheep for the rest of my life and so to

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answer your question you know I feel called to go back yeah to Argentina now

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yeah and time and talk about that because sometimes and and so talk a

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little bit about that that can you know people hear that they're really inspired

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it's exciting people are praying for you we've have lots of people supporting you

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prayerfully financially it's awesome and that's God's kind of hand in all this

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and but when someone hears you know okay I'm living in California I'm going to

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Argentina Star Church so just walk people through like what are you gonna do when

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you get there like what's the plan like what's the plan to start a church like

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what does it look like for somebody who's watching this yeah and so that

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could be a daunting question yeah and just how do you start church and the

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first thing to realize is what the definition of church is and the church

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is in the Greek word ecclesia and that's a gathering of believers and I just look

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at the ministry of Jesus and how he started with three dudes he started with

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Peter James and John and he called them and he did life with them and that is

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essentially what I plan to do is I have three guys in mind that I want to spend

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life my life with and to worship God with eat food with they're all part of

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the basketball program that and down in Argentina and so and I want to do Bible

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studies with them and and just get involved and start from there what the

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three turns into twelve and twelve turns into seventy and you go from there yep

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awesome it's easier when you break it down you're moving down there to play

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basketball and have dinner one night a week I'm gonna have you know buy some

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guys I already know over we're gonna have dinner have a little Bible study

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try to do what try to make a commitment like we're okay we're gonna do what we

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read very simple we're gonna read we're gonna do what we read and then you just

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start watching God move you also played guitar you're a good musician I know you

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he's he's humble but he's gonna put a little band together and they're gonna

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find some places to play and just that there's kind of some nuts and bolts of

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like how to how to do it in a way that's super fun and in you and and get results

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it's awesome it's just exciting it's really fun to watch and also I've been

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blessed with having the training and seeing the experience of being a part

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of ocean water and just seeing small beginnings and how how church is

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possible with just you start with a couple people and then God starts bring

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people to you and yep it's just so cool to see that I can do that same thing

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that that yeah so I'm just excited to get down that's easy it's simple when

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you it's simple when you start the right way yeah when when you start you're like

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it's okay to just you know have some food with some guys and that that's how

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we start ocean water is myself and Adam Watts and Bobby Ramsey and Ivan and just

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meeting at 8 o'clock it on a Wednesday night after the 25 people smell the

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entire dojo up with the stank and it worked and but I think I think people

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need to hear that people need to people need to like let that seek into them yeah

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you know be okay with that then it gets fun but when you start with all these

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lofty expectations you put pressure on yourself and then you live under the

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weight of these unrealistic unfair expectations and none of that's from God

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God never puts unfair expectations on us we put those on ourselves so we get free

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of all that we just be who we are it's really fun when the focus is just on

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intimacy with God through Jesus Christ yeah it makes things really simple and

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it changes life so yeah yeah it's awesome love God love people be who you

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are there's also it's also part of being a leader is you know you is you think

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you reflect so you're 28 what what's something that 28 year old Mitch might

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tell 20 year old Mitch it's like there's a that's a big eight years you know I

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look at my life there's a kind of it's kind of a big jump like I'll be 47 in a

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week there's not a huge jump from like 40 to 47 but like from 20 to 28 there's

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some space in there like what would you I would say my life I've like we all go

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through valleys and hills and I would just try to help my younger self

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realize that God is consistent through it all and that even though I'm

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essentially feeling like I'm things aren't working out my way just to remain

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faithful yeah just like wait hold on just a little longer like yeah and the

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other thing is looking back at 28 years old my eyes have not seen my ears have

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not heard yep my mind has not conceived what God has done when I was 25 yeah what

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God is doing now I'm 28 and what he's gonna do when I'm 40 and when I'm 50 yeah

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I just can't I would just tell myself just to hold on a little longer just

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just pressing a little bit more yeah I love that yeah I love it anytime somebody

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starts talking about grinding and persevering I just go yeah that's my

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language I love it that's good so what so part of life being fun is like just

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being curious how you doing um what are you what are you interested in right now

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what are you curious about I mean I know you're fighting on Sunday night you're

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boxing I should say yeah yeah Saturday night May 1st I've got has been through

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this time of waiting he's been filling my life with like these new hobbies such

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as surfing boxing things I and really honestly I haven't been playing

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basketball at all and it's something I thought I could never live without and

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so God has been filling it with these new skills and I feel like skills that

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he wants to use when I go back down to Argentina but also like on the spiritual

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side I feel like very very recently God has been speaking to me about spiritual

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gifts and in all all types of spiritual gifts which I feel like and I've been

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prophesied over that he wants to use in my life that he wants to use in your

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life that he wants to use in our life as the body of believers and so I've been

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really pressing into that and awesome trying to be open to that to the Holy

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Spirit and what he wants to do is that I will definitely need him when I go down

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there yeah and all the gifts that he wants me to have yeah so so you know we

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we've become good friends we also have talked a lot about water yeah we've

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we've talked about as much as people have talked about water being an issue

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there hasn't been a whole lot of progress made so what we've talked about

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is you know incorporating the the strategy of helping people source water

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into the mission of a church and it's really fun it's really tangible it's

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something people can understand and talk to them a little bit about some of your

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some of your scheming and dreams to like start take surf trips over to Chile yeah

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and start exploring over there like an old pioneer guy right so I'll first

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start by saying when I was there there was a morning where I was praying for

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the youth of San Martin and I remember later that day God had the gym of all

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places there is and there's not a lot of people by the way that speak English

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down there I bumped into somebody that spoke English and I was like all right

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by the way you know both English and Spanish and Spanish yeah yeah and so her

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name is Maria Grazia and she she is the CEO and founder of an organization

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called Humanidad del Sol and they provide career education and discipleship

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for orphans who have aged out of the system in Argentina yeah and so like

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answer to prayers like God when you hit God's heart string he sometimes answers

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prayers really fast and so but I've been having this vision and dream lately of

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taking some of these orphans some of these kids that have never been to the

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beach before and I feel like God has put surfing into my life for a reason and

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Chile is just on the other side of the mountains from Mendoza Argentina it's

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about like a six to eight hour drive but my vision is to be able to take some of

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these kids do some camping and some surf trips and and then one day partner

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with ocean water to help establish a church in a desal unit somewhere and I

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just feel like God wants to do that yeah yeah there's a God works all things

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together for those who love him so yeah it's exciting it's exciting how it's

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good to talk about some of the nuts and bolts of all this stuff because a lot of

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times when people think oh you know I'm gonna go to somewhere else to start a

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church it's like all they can all they can think of is like what does that mean

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like a 90-minute worship session in Spanish like no it's not it's like you

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play basketball you serve you hang out like it's much like life here one one of

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the ways one of the ways the world's changed or what the cultures become

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smaller yeah you know so so because of technology so it's sort of a lot of the

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activities are the same so it's gonna be it's gonna be really really fun for you

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and I just want to say to you just how awesome it is to be your friend to watch

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all of this happen yeah it's gonna be awesome I can't wait to see all the all

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the crazy awesome stories I have a feeling it's gonna be a lot of them

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because I've seen a lot of them already I mean when we told everybody last night

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you were going to Argentina like the whole everybody clapped it was wild it

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was just people were like down so it's really really exciting so what are some

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what are some some last words that you'd like to leave with everybody about what

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you're doing well I'd say and then the first thing I'll say is that one thing

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that I've learned throughout this whole thing is and something you taught me is

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it's all about relationships and I'm just excited that whatever God does in

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Argentina that I'll be able to experience that with you you'll be by my

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side the whole time yeah and I'm just excited for that we're gonna be friends

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for the rest of our life into eternity yeah exactly and so one thing that has

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been on my heart just relationships the other thing is that the spirit is

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already working in Argentina the spirit is moving with in people's hearts we

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just get to be a part of you just get to be a part of it and find out what God's

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already working on and so I know I've received the call I've received

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confirmation through the word through the Bible and then through other people

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even people I've never met before yeah tell them what happened last night yes I

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preached on Jonah 4 and last Tuesday night last Tuesday night at Sir Coffee

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was great worship was awesome and after service some random guy just comes up to

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me and he pulls me he says I really need to talk to you outside like all right

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let's go talk what do you need talking about and he's he's saying well I woke

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up at 5 a.m. this morning and I couldn't go back to sleep because I can only

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think about one thing and that it was the Argentina flag and I felt like God

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was calling me to pray for about a half hour for Argentina and then he came he

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comes randomly to Sir Coffee that night he comes halfway through my service so

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it doesn't even hear anything about Argentina and he asked somebody who's

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that talking he's like oh that guy's gonna go plant a church in Argentina and

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immediately he's like I need to talk to that guy so by the way the guy ended up

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being the owner of my favorite hamburger place in California it's not in and out

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so yeah another place but so that's that so what what we find is that you know as

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we as we're following God that he's actually already moving and there's great

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comfort in that so much comfort there's so much can't you know when you surf you

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just you see a wave and then you just paddle for it and you ride it and

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there's so much in there about how we live this kingdom life you know we don't

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make waves we just ride them so you can see and and then God just gives us the

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discernment to be in the right spot and so it's just awesome to watch really

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really fun I feel like I'm really really excited big wave right now and I'm just

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excited to be along and not just be on my on it by myself it's a party wave man

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it's the party wave and you're on it and there's other people on it and it's just

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gonna go for a long time I feel like so well this yeah one last thing is Mitch

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has Mitch's church is gonna be called Chacarero's and that means farmers it's

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like a slang word for for farmers in Argentina and you might be wondering

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well why is Mitch wearing an ocean water church but he's calling hit the name of

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the church that he's gonna start Chacarero's well there's a couple of

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really important reasons why that's the case and why ocean water is a church

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here in San Clemente but it's also a collective that revolves around a

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strategy for water I want to break that down a little bit for you first of all

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when someone leads something they naming it is very important and the reason why

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is because people especially your 28 people want ownership they also want

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autonomy the old way in my view the old way was you go out and you and you start

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a bunch of things called the same thing I think the new way that provides more

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ownership is allowing so and the idea there is if you want someone to parent

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something they need to name the child and so I'm excited however we're also in

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a collective together what that means is we share some things in common we both

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love to teach the Bible we kind of go a chapter away we're both passionate about

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being in homes and coffee shops and we also share water in common as sort of

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a missions methodology so that's what it means for other churches name different

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things to sort of be in our collective and I kind of wanted to teach that and

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help people to understand it be a little confusing if they hear all of that right

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but but it's important and yeah so just any any last words I just was watching

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this just bless you know God loves you so much and know that your dreams that

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sometimes your dreams start and you feel like they're supposed to go one way but

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God sometimes will just flip your dream on its head and when he flips it over it

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opens the possibilities for what he's already had he's had planned for you just

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wants you to open your eyes to that and so and know that anything is possible

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with him and at the end of the day as long as we seek first his kingdom is

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righteousness then then all of the things will be added on to us so that's

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all I gotta say and I love you love you too man all right Chaca

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Eddowes when I put this out on particularly on Instagram I'm gonna put a

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link to so that you guys can follow along Mitch's journey I know that you'll be

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live streaming some of the stuff so we can yeah I can hear you teaching stuff

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so thank you man awesome yeah all right love you guys