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Now, welcome to another inspiring edition of

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Sound Insight with Dr. Tom Curran. Romans chapter

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12, verse 2. Do not conform yourselves to this

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age, but be transformed by the renewal of your

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mind so that you may judge what is God's will,

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what is good, pleasing, and perfect. Be transformed.

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That's what I'm so committed to in this age and

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stage of my life and helping you experience that

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transformation. We all have a stewardship of

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God's grace, a stewardship of the gifts and graces

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he's given to us that we've lived in the course

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of our lives. You talk about that reality of

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fulfilling the duties of your state and life.

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And in my call to lead and provide and protect

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my family, one of the ways that the Lord has

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formed and molded my life is around the theme

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of dialogue. And to implement that theme, the

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Lord has opened doors for me. And I've been able

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to, over the course of the last almost 30 years

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now, walk with folks in church settings and in

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corporate settings to be able to experience transformation.

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I've used Sound Insight over the last 20 years

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to walk with you, to walk with you in the hopes

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that you will grow in your own following of Jesus,

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that you will experience transformation in your

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life. And over the course of those years, Mondays

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have really been set aside for my time to dialogue

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with priests. Fridays have been set aside to

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be faith and family. Fridays. And I'm often having

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Carrie on those programs, my wife, because that's

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a beautiful opportunity to dialogue with her

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about how we walk together as a family. I'm now

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launching something new, and that is a coaching

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hour. This hour on Thursdays, I'm going to set

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aside to hand on to you insights that I've gained

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from my work as an executive coach. In the name

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of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit,

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amen. Heavenly Father, we love you. We thank

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you and praise you that you meet us, you reach

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out to us, you knock on the door of our hearts

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each and every day, and you invite us to open

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to you. And that, Lord, you speak to our hearts

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and you invite us to open our hearts to you in

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this beautiful dialogue of love. Lord, open our

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hearts today to receive your gifts and graces.

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as we walk with you into the Lent, into this

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desert that has our name on it, this Lent. And

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Lord, I just pray that this program would be

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a blessing, that as I share insights from my

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own journey, as in my professional life, that

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this would be a blessing to those who are walking

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with you. And we make this prayer, Jesus, in

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your holy name. Amen. In the name of the Father,

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and the Son, and the Holy Spirit. Amen. This

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is another way that I'm striving to be faithful

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as a steward. I want to hand on to you what I

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myself have received. That's the reality of tradition.

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Tradition is handing on what you've received

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from others in a way that the next generation

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can be a blessing to them. So many of the gifts

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and graces that have been given to us are given

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to us because the Lord loves us, yes, but they're

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not only given for us. They're given for the

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sake of others. And that's the goal I have for

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this focus on coaching. I call it a coaching

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hour. And it will be hopefully something that

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grows into an opportunity for you to share your

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situations with me through email, through even

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voicemail, through text messages about things

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that you're facing. that I can then bring out

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into the open. You know, there are many programs

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on Catholic Radio that have to do with themes

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like this. You think of programs that are involving

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various forms of therapy, right? So I think of

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the PopCax show, or I think of Dr. Ray Garendi,

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or even Call to Communion in some ways, Dr. David

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Anders. And in a different format, you have apologetics

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programming that have so much to do with people.

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who bring their situations out into the open,

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they talk about them, and they're trying to seek

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insight so that they can move forward in their

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lives. And it made me ponder, as I am so focused

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on helping folks like you be transformed to experience

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this awakening and this trajectory -changing

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encounter with Jesus, that there are insights

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that I have mentioned over the course of the

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years on this program, but to be able to make

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it more of a point of focus. It's a theme that

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is really jumping out at me. And so I'm going

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to be sharing with you from my 25 years, almost

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30 years of working in church settings and in

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corporate America as an executive coach and a

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strategy consultant. And by doing that, my goal

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is to, once again, share with you some stories.

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share with you some anecdotes, share with you

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some principles and practices that have come

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from those circumstances that, guess what? They

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have a part to play in your life of faith. And

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so my hope and prayer is that as you hear these

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insights, as you hear these principles and practices,

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that you'll see that, oh, wow, that's relevant

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to my life. That's very striking to me. Or maybe

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it's something that you'll find to be a blessing

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in your married life. Maybe it'll be a blessing

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for a loved one. Maybe it's a spouse or a child.

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Maybe it's a parent. So this is going to be just

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another form of me sharing with you sound insight.

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Insight to help you see into your life, into

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your life living in this world. Because I think

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that as I'm sharing with you these insights that

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have come from my interactions with so many folks

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in corporate settings, but even just in one -on

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-one settings, a lot of folks will say to me,

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Tom, can we get together for coffee? Or could

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I just call you up? I want to pick your brain

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for something. I offer them insight that comes

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as a result of a dialogue that they then can

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take an action on. And that's what coaching is.

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And so today I'm going to sort of lay the groundwork.

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And by doing this, I want to help you realize

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that This concept of coaching, even though it

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might sound a bit like corporate and what does

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this have to do with faith, is actually traced

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back to fundamentally Catholic realities. therapists

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who are talking on Catholic radio are bringing

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situations that are very often secular in nature

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and are out in the world in secular settings.

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So also, coaching is one of these things that

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will have an application out in the secular world,

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but guess what? If it's done through a Catholic

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lens, if it's done with a Catholic worldview,

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if it's done in a Catholic way, you'll find that

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the deepest truths of our faith have incredible

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application for how we flourish in settings in

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this world. Yes, even in business settings. I

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see this again and again. I remember a particular,

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what's called an offsite. This was a gathering

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of senior leaders and executives at a fortune.

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500 company, probably a Fortune 100 company.

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And I was speaking to a gathering of, I don't

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know, between say 50 and 100 of these executives.

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And I was working with them over the course of

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the day on some crucial issues that I had helped

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diagnose through some assessment work, right?

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So an assessment is where I kind of parachute

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in and I have a chance to talk with a variety

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of senior leaders or executives in one -on -one

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settings and in settings that have a degree of

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confidentiality to them, and then I can bring

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the insights that I gained from them through

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those dialogues, and I shaped and molded them

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into a series of presentations. And the first

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set of insights that came out were, guess what,

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utterly associated with the Catholic understanding

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of what it means to be a person. Now, I never

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used the word faith, I never used the word Catholic,

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and I never used the word God, but I was able

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to develop this understanding that each person

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in this room And each person that they're serving

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and each of the customers that they're ultimately

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trying to reach and offer services to is a person

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that is a gift. So it was amazing. I was able

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to take John Paul II's understanding of the person

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as gift and weave it into a set of conversations

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and a set of deliverables that at the beginning

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of the day, there was some questions like, okay,

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well, Is this going to be something, is this

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guy going to be able to deliver insight that

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will have impact on our business? And at the

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end of the presentation, they were like, this

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was the most profound understanding of what it

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means for me to look at my coworkers, to look

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at the people that are reporting to me that I've

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ever had before. And all I did was. was able

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to share with them this Catholic understanding

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of what it means to be a person in a way that

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they could understand. I'll share more about

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that story later, but my point is that you'll

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find that you living your Catholic faith in your

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workplace, you living your Catholic faith in

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your workplace is more than having a rosary.

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in your pocket or wearing a crucifix around your

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neck or having a picture of the sacred heart

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of Jesus at your desk. Those types of things,

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right? I'm not talking so much about the externals.

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I'm talking about the spirit. I'm talking about

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the person. I'm talking about how you show up

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and how you live in the workplace, in the world.

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So many of you are people who are called to go

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forth into the world and be salt and light and

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leaven. And we will do that by living out the

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fullness of our faith in the world. Okay, so

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I'm going to dive into this now and just talk

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a little bit about, you know, you're saying,

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Tom, what is a coach? I'm not talking about sports,

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right? Coaching in terms of sports. whole profession

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is something that only grew up in the last, say,

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less than 30 years. It was in the late 1990s

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where folks that were involved in training and

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consulting kind of blended these together and

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realized that, wait a minute, instead of me coming

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in and giving a talk to a bunch of people about

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things they ought to be doing, and then I get

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to leave, I was the expert who shared some insights

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and some practices, and then I leave, and then

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they're left to sort of figure them out. Maybe

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it would be better to have someone who could

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walk with them, who could be with them and accompany

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them over the course of an extended period of

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time to be able to help them implement the insights

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and apply the insights in their own settings.

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And so coaching emerged in the late 1990s as

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a profession, as something that people would

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offer in professional settings. And what's interesting

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is that when I got into this, it was because

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I was doing a lot of training and consulting

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and speaking in Catholic settings. I would do

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a lot of work speaking with Catholic leaders.

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I was speaking either to bishops or priests,

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sometimes to deacons. I was speaking to what

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are called curia, so the leadership at the diocesan

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level. And I would even offer, interesting, I

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would offer formation by phone classes. And so

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you'd have people gathered around a speakerphone

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in another state. Maybe it was like a leadership

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group of a prayer group. prayer group leaders.

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And they would gather together and I would send

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them outlines and we would work through the outlines

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together. And I had never met the people, but

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they'd be on the phone and we would walk through

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these outlines and I would talk with them by

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phone. It was formation by phone. And eventually

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when this theme of coaching came up, it was like,

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this would be so much more impactful. if I would

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be able to incorporate something like that, right?

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So the sort of the throwaway line was, oh, Tiger

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Woods has a swing coach. So at that point, Tiger

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Woods, right, the leading golfer in the world.

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And even he had somebody who was attempting to

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see what he was doing and give him insight that

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he could benefit from as well. And I mentioned

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to you that the people that were initially attracted

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to this profession of coaching, they really came

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from three different directions. There were those

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that were sort of the consultant mentors. So

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the consultant slash mentor who moved into coaching

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were those who basically said, the answers lie

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within me. I've been there and done that. And

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if you bring me in, I'm going to help your folks

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or the people that I work with in one -on -one

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settings to be able to get the insights that

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I have. And I'm going to help them be able to

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apply those insights into their settings. So

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a mentor or a consultant. Then there were those

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that were the therapists. And so those that came

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from organizational psychology or individual

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therapy, they had a desire to, once again, maybe

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take on more of a coaching role rather than a

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therapeutic role. But their general approach

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was the answers lie within you. And so those

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that came from more of a therapist -type background

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and model of coaching were those who would say,

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let me learn how to ask. interesting questions.

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Let me learn how to ask the questions that will

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help to surface the insights that are in you

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that you're not aware of yet. And so the answers

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really do lie within you. And so through my appreciative

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inquiry, through the way that I'm talking with

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you, you're going to gain new insight into your

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own situation. And so that was the second model.

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And the third was those that gathered around,

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let's call that person a guru, someone who came

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into visibility and had a bit of fame, maybe

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because of some successes they've had in their

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own lives. generated a program that encapsulated

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their insights. And they then offered that program

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for people to be certified in utilizing handouts

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and other materials and assets to apply the guru's

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insights through this program. And those coaches

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were those who were certified to be able to do

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that. So the therapist, the mentor, and the program

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coach. There was a fourth model though. And this

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is one that I brought to the table. Did you seek

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mentors for your life? Absolutely. Look to people

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who can help you gain insight because they've

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been there and done that. They will help shorten

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the process of you advancing in your life. So

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coaches that came from a mentor background certainly

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had a place and were valuable. Is it important

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to be able to talk with people in such a way

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that they're asking you the right questions and

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helping you come to see things that you don't

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see within yourself? So those that have more

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therapeutic background, yeah, incredibly valuable.

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And so a therapeutic background and approach

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to coaching also had its place and was valuable.

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How about learning from those who were able to

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encapsulate those insights that they had, sort

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of the guru again, and put it into a program

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and said, you know what? I don't want to have

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to guess how to figure out how to get insights.

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I can just follow these questions. I can follow

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this program. And if I trust the program and

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what's been put together, I'll be able to reach

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the goal line. And so these three approaches,

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coaches that would be certified in executing

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a program, these were all valuable ways of coaching.

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However, my background was in Catholic theology.

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I was a Catholic theologian. And my background

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was in working in a parish setting and then eventually

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moving up to a national and international level

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where I would be interacting with Catholic leaders

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around the world and the Catholic bishops in

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the United States. And I realized that there

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was a very rich tradition that involved the kind

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of work that coaches do. And it was the tradition

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of spiritual direction. Because a spiritual director

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is someone who blends all three of these other

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models. You see, a spiritual director, on the

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one hand, himself or herself, is called upon

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to have walked the path. They're called to be...

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holy. They're called to be someone who is walking

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in a way of integrity. And so they're kind of

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like a mentor. So if you have a spiritual director,

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some of the answers lie within that spiritual

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director. And at the same time, a spiritual director

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is wise enough to say, the Holy Spirit is not

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simply at my command, but the Holy Spirit's at

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work in you. And you may not be aware of how

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the Holy Spirit is at work in you. And so I realized

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that if I can ask you the right questions, some

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of those insights will come out of you. And so

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this good spiritual director is going to also

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have and draw from some of the therapeutic approach

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to coaching. At the same time, the spiritual

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director is going to be trained and formed in

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the collective wisdom, in the whole tradition

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of spiritual direction that has been handed down.

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And that's that program approach, right? Not

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from one guru, but from the entire tradition

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of the church. And so a wise spiritual director

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is someone who's going to, if you will, follow

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the program, is someone who's going to understand

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that there are some really key things, insights

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and principles and practices that ought to be

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implemented in a healthy spiritual direction

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situation so that their directee can benefit.

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And for me, it became very natural to say, oh,

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my approach to coaching in professional settings

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was drawn from the tradition of spiritual direction.

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Some of the answers lie within you. And my goal

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will be to help you surface those insights. Some

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of the answers lie within me because I have my

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own fund of experience. I've been there and done

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that. And I want to be able to bring that to

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the table when the situation calls for it. At

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the same time, I also realize that some of the

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answers are beyond us. Some of the answers are

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not in either of us, but if we are open to it

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and we're wise in our own searching, we're going

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to be able to lean into the wonderful tradition

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of faith, or in this instance, the wonderful

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sources of insight that are available beyond

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us in the world, and let's go and let's allow

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those to come to the table as well. And so as

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a coach, in these corporate settings, I have

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been living this model of spiritual direction.

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I've never called it that, but I utilize the

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very same principles that are drawn from a very

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healthy Catholic understanding of spiritual direction.

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Now, there's an insight that shows up in St.

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John of the Cross. in St. Francis de Sales, in

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Introduction to the Devout Life, and in many

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writings in our Catholic tradition. And it's

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this. Finding a good spiritual director is incredibly

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rare. Having a spiritual director who is going

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to fulfill that call is very rare. And so...

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Finding a wonderful spiritual director who is

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going to live out all those different aspects

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of that call is a great challenge. And there's

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a book called The Book of All Saints, written

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by Adrienne Von Speyer. And in it, she talks

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about and gives insight into the prayer lives

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and spiritual lives of great saints throughout

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our tradition. And one of the themes that shows

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up again and again is that the particular call

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and mission of this particular saint, this particular

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blessed, this very holy man or woman in our tradition

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wasn't fully realized because they weren't accompanied

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by a holy spiritual director. It was the lack

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of a wise... spiritual director that held back

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the full flourishing and the full realization

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of someone's mission. Even a saint, they could

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have been even more fruitful had they been better

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directed. I found that so striking when I read

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that in the Book of All Saints, but I also found

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it so confirming of what I've experienced. in

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my own work, moving into the world to be Salt,

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Light, and Leaven as a corporate consultant,

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as a trusted advisor, as someone who offered

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a confidential sounding board to CEOs and C -level

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executives and in corporate settings where I've

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attempted to help them flourish as top leadership

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teams, that they were held back because they

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didn't have a good coach. It was the absence

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of a coach that left this individual to attempt

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to figure stuff out. And so finding the right

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coach was someone that was going to help them

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flourish more fully and to realize their mission,

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even their mission in that corporation itself.

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And that's what I found to be. this great gift

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that I was able to bring to bear, something that

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came from my own background in theology and in

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ministry, and to bring it to bear in settings

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that often involve faith, but often didn't, right?

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And just real in corporate settings. What was

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interesting was this, was that a number of my

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clients, those who were drawn to me, were also

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Catholic. Certainly not all, right? But a number

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of them were. And it was interesting because

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they heard me on the radio at some point. And

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I talked about the fact that I did this coaching,

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this executive coaching for companies like Boeing

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and T -Mobile. And I worked with business owners

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and walked with these leaders. And they're like,

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hey, you know what? My company offers the opportunity

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to draw on executive coaching. Can we see about

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getting you involved here? And so it became for

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me a beautiful way for me to live out my mission,

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which was in principally in ministry settings,

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but then to bring that to bear as well outside

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of ministry settings. It's been a really powerful

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and beautiful gift. Now, this draws upon this

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Catholic understanding of being a person called

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Catholic anthropology. And it's this, it's the

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power and importance and fundamental reality

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of dialogue in our own lives. The power and importance

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and the fundamental reality of dialogue in our

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lives. So what I just shared with you as understanding

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the models of coaching, I want you to stop and

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think about that for your own life of faith.

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and for your own professional life. So I don't

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talk into a lot of men or women who have to go

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out the door, out their front door, out into

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the world, and you're trying to make a living.

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You're trying to make it work. When you have

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someone who can walk with you, accompany you

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in a dialogue, it's a way for you to gain insight.

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to see into your circumstances more fully so

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that you can take the action that you need. And

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so I say that this is connected to our anthropology

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and how fundamental is it? I said it's really

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fundamental and it's important. Well, it goes

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all the way back to John Paul II and his understanding

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of the person is created in the image of God.

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We as human beings are created in the image of

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God. Now, when we think about that, we say, oh,

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what does it mean we're created in the image

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of God? Well, for over a thousand years, say

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1 ,500 years in our tradition, the emphasis,

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not the totality of it, but the emphasis has

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been on the fact that we're created in the image

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of God as individual human beings. That means

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that I am the image of God because I have an

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intellect, a will, and a memory. Through my intellect,

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I am able to know what is true, like the Word

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of God, the second person of the Trinity. I can

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will what is good, and so there's the act of

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love. To will what is good is an act of love,

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and that's like the person of the Holy Spirit.

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And I also have a memory, and a memory isn't

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just the ability to recall facts, but it's the

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ability to make what is past real. and effective

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in the present, like God the Father, the source

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of all being. And so we have this image of the

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Trinitarian God in a single person as an individual.

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Again, that was beautifully articulated by St.

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Augustine in his book, De Trinitate, on the Trinity.

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It's a very dense book. But there are other strands

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in our tradition. about what it means to be a

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human being created in the image of God that

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is more than involving just an individual human

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being. And St. John Paul II highlights this.

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He calls this back out into the open, and he

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emphasizes the fact that we are made in the image

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of God, not only as intellect will and memory

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as an individual, but because we're created in

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the image of the Blessed Trinity, Father, Son,

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and Holy Spirit, that is a communion of persons.

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There's this union among the Father, Son, and

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Holy Spirit that is infinite, that is eternal,

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and is perfect. And this infinite communion of

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persons between the Father and Son and Holy Spirit,

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St. John Paul II refers to as a dialogue. love

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and truth. The union of persons among the Trinity

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is a dialogue of love and truth. But this also

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has an impact on our lives and what it means

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for us to be persons created in the image of

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the Trinitarian God. What is that? I'll tell

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you in a minute. So here I am in my inaugural

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session of the Catholic Coaching Hour. My goal

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here is to share with you insights drawn from

00:28:16.559 --> 00:28:21.400
my career serving executives and CEOs and business

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owners and others to share insights that are

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rooted in our Catholic faith and that will have

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an applicability to your life of faith. Also,

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in a special way, I am speaking to those that

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actually have to move out into the world, that

00:28:36.019 --> 00:28:39.609
you're called to make a difference. by being

00:28:39.609 --> 00:28:42.049
salt, light, and leaven. You have jobs to go

00:28:42.049 --> 00:28:44.109
to, you have careers you're trying to develop,

00:28:44.349 --> 00:28:47.170
you're involved in companies, and you want to

00:28:47.170 --> 00:28:50.250
be able to live your faith with integrity. You

00:28:50.250 --> 00:28:52.049
want to be able to flourish in that setting.

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And I want to give you the confidence that living

00:28:55.990 --> 00:28:59.250
your faith, letting it shine, I'm not talking

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about preaching, I'm talking about being a light,

00:29:01.690 --> 00:29:05.710
by how you live your faith, how you live it with

00:29:05.710 --> 00:29:09.269
integrity, is something that can happen. It's

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something that we are in need of more and more

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and I want to help with that. And so I'm going

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to be sharing these insights with you. I'll give

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again some anecdotes and some other stories and

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by doing that to embody some of the principles

00:29:26.170 --> 00:29:28.470
and practices that you'll be able to take with

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you. Today I'm just sort of laying the foundations.

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And so these foundations will play themselves

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out. in our family lives, not just in our professional

00:29:38.500 --> 00:29:41.500
lives, but in our family's life. So the insight

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I just left off with before the break was this

00:29:44.779 --> 00:29:48.180
idea that John Paul II offers that we're created

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in the image of God as a communion of persons.

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And he lays this out at, first of all, the most

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basic level, that as a person, I image God in

00:29:59.119 --> 00:30:01.259
one way through my intellect, will, and memory.

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And he certainly says that, but he says, Image

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God more perfectly and completely when we are

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in a relationship of communion with others. So

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yes, I am the image of God all by myself, just

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standing alone as an individual. But I more perfectly

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and completely am the image of God when I am

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in a relationship of love with another human

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being. He refers to these as I -thou relationships.

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And in an I -thou relationship, I want you to

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think of a boy and his dad playing catch with

00:30:46.779 --> 00:30:51.779
a baseball. A really fascinating thing happened

00:30:51.779 --> 00:30:56.420
when my dad died a couple of years ago. My older

00:30:56.420 --> 00:30:59.740
brother George and I shared, like, what was one

00:30:59.740 --> 00:31:05.930
of your most moving memories? that you had growing

00:31:05.930 --> 00:31:09.970
up with dad. And he and I both said the same

00:31:09.970 --> 00:31:13.609
thing, playing catch with the baseball in the

00:31:13.609 --> 00:31:17.950
backyard. I was down one end of the yard. He

00:31:17.950 --> 00:31:19.930
was down, my dad was down the other end of the

00:31:19.930 --> 00:31:23.670
yard. And I threw him the ball. He caught it.

00:31:23.690 --> 00:31:26.690
He threw me the ball. And I can still remember

00:31:26.690 --> 00:31:29.190
that he threw the ball really fast and it hit

00:31:29.190 --> 00:31:32.130
my glove and it stung my hand. I can remember

00:31:32.130 --> 00:31:35.210
he's going to throw a curveball and he threw

00:31:35.210 --> 00:31:37.829
the curveball and it just moved in really amazing

00:31:37.829 --> 00:31:40.589
ways. I remember I wanted to throw it really

00:31:40.589 --> 00:31:46.490
hard. It was wild. And the memory, this was a

00:31:46.490 --> 00:31:50.289
memory of a communion of persons playing catch.

00:31:51.099 --> 00:31:54.119
Just playing catch this. Do you see what's going

00:31:54.119 --> 00:31:56.599
on? It's a circulation It's a back and forth

00:31:56.599 --> 00:32:02.000
and that back and forth is I see you I celebrate

00:32:02.000 --> 00:32:05.539
you, I affirm you, I receive from you, and I

00:32:05.539 --> 00:32:07.980
give to you, right? So you can think of all of

00:32:07.980 --> 00:32:11.240
that type of language, the receiving, the openness

00:32:11.240 --> 00:32:14.859
to receive, the openness then to reciprocate,

00:32:14.859 --> 00:32:19.259
to give back. There's a degree of I'm affirming

00:32:19.259 --> 00:32:23.519
you, you belong, I belong. There's that, okay,

00:32:23.619 --> 00:32:27.660
isn't that beautiful language? And it might be

00:32:27.660 --> 00:32:31.920
a bit like flowery, but I tell you that this

00:32:31.920 --> 00:32:35.380
idea of this circulation of love with my dad

00:32:35.380 --> 00:32:38.700
and the act of playing catch, it made me alive.

00:32:39.420 --> 00:32:44.660
It made me Tom. Well, Tommy then. It made me

00:32:44.660 --> 00:32:50.440
come alive as a human being. According to John

00:32:50.440 --> 00:32:52.940
Paul II, and it was something that I got to live.

00:32:54.140 --> 00:32:56.960
And so... We are made for relationships like

00:32:56.960 --> 00:32:59.839
that. We are made for relationships of communion.

00:33:00.980 --> 00:33:04.660
And you see the difference when there isn't that

00:33:04.660 --> 00:33:07.640
sense of circulation. When there's no dialogue,

00:33:07.779 --> 00:33:10.099
what do you have, a monologue? Someone's just

00:33:10.099 --> 00:33:13.240
talking at you, not with you. Or if someone's

00:33:13.240 --> 00:33:15.660
closed off, they're not open to receive you,

00:33:15.700 --> 00:33:19.720
or they're not open to... acknowledge that I'm

00:33:19.720 --> 00:33:21.259
receiving what you're sharing and I'm going to

00:33:21.259 --> 00:33:23.539
share back with you. There's, again, a wall that's

00:33:23.539 --> 00:33:25.579
put up. And so there isn't that circulation.

00:33:26.119 --> 00:33:29.420
When there's a breakdown in communication, there's

00:33:29.420 --> 00:33:32.559
something then less than fully flourishing human

00:33:32.559 --> 00:33:36.339
being that's happening there. John Paul II takes

00:33:36.339 --> 00:33:40.519
this reality of saying this I and thou, it then,

00:33:40.579 --> 00:33:42.759
when this I and thou, where you're facing each

00:33:42.759 --> 00:33:44.880
other, you could become a we, where together

00:33:44.880 --> 00:33:47.920
you then face the world. You face others together,

00:33:48.119 --> 00:33:50.900
that that affirmation and mutual receptivity

00:33:50.900 --> 00:33:53.759
to each other leads to a sense of solidarity,

00:33:54.220 --> 00:33:58.079
a sense of compassion, a sense of working together

00:33:58.079 --> 00:34:01.839
for the sake of someone else. This communion

00:34:01.839 --> 00:34:05.299
of persons plays itself out in our lives as a

00:34:05.299 --> 00:34:07.579
married couple. John Paul II says that marriage

00:34:07.579 --> 00:34:11.360
is a communion of persons. He says that family

00:34:11.360 --> 00:34:14.519
is a communion of persons, this fundamental cell

00:34:14.519 --> 00:34:18.269
of society. That's what we were made for. We

00:34:18.269 --> 00:34:20.989
were made for this communion of persons, this

00:34:20.989 --> 00:34:24.789
union of existence where we share life together.

00:34:25.929 --> 00:34:29.230
And this I and now and we, well, Carrie and I,

00:34:29.269 --> 00:34:31.630
our call is to be one so that we can then, we

00:34:31.630 --> 00:34:36.550
can be towards our kids and foster in them that

00:34:36.550 --> 00:34:40.300
same thing. And John Paul II and other great

00:34:40.300 --> 00:34:42.739
writers who've reflected deeply on this, like

00:34:42.739 --> 00:34:45.579
Cardinal Ratzinger, Pope Benedict XVI, right,

00:34:45.699 --> 00:34:49.619
and Hans Urs von Balthasar, they talk about instances

00:34:49.619 --> 00:34:52.900
where you see a communion of persons on display.

00:34:53.980 --> 00:34:58.400
It's marked by laughter as an expression of joy

00:34:58.400 --> 00:35:02.880
and of play, right? I think about one of the

00:35:02.880 --> 00:35:04.699
places where I've seen a beautiful experience

00:35:04.699 --> 00:35:07.199
of communion of persons is growing up playing

00:35:07.199 --> 00:35:10.599
sports. I especially see, I remember these just

00:35:10.599 --> 00:35:12.800
times of being on the basketball court and just

00:35:12.800 --> 00:35:14.579
playing together on a team. And when there's

00:35:14.579 --> 00:35:19.000
just this flow together, time just slows down.

00:35:19.079 --> 00:35:21.860
It gets so full. There's an overflow to it. That's

00:35:21.860 --> 00:35:25.639
joy. And that's what we're made for. See, so

00:35:25.639 --> 00:35:29.599
we're made for this communion of persons. fundamentally

00:35:29.599 --> 00:35:32.320
as an individual, but then as that builds itself

00:35:32.320 --> 00:35:35.159
out into the fundamental relationships in our

00:35:35.159 --> 00:35:37.119
lives, that first fundamental cell of society,

00:35:37.340 --> 00:35:40.980
my own family life, and then beyond that out

00:35:40.980 --> 00:35:45.920
into the world. And so when I think about what's

00:35:45.920 --> 00:35:48.420
success life, like what's, you know, mission

00:35:48.420 --> 00:35:50.599
accomplished, not success, but for success from

00:35:50.599 --> 00:35:52.400
the standpoint of what's mission accomplished

00:35:52.400 --> 00:35:57.289
in my family, it's when I see my kids. loving

00:35:57.289 --> 00:36:00.269
and enjoying each other, often marked by laughter

00:36:00.269 --> 00:36:03.090
and play, where they are open to each other,

00:36:03.130 --> 00:36:05.630
receiving each other. There's that reciprocation

00:36:05.630 --> 00:36:11.949
of receiving and giving. When I see that, it

00:36:11.949 --> 00:36:16.230
fills me to overflowing. I just, I stand and

00:36:16.230 --> 00:36:21.530
I offer God great praise and thanks. One of the

00:36:21.530 --> 00:36:24.309
great sadnesses, one of the great sources of

00:36:24.309 --> 00:36:27.690
pain is when there's a rupture, when there's

00:36:27.690 --> 00:36:31.789
a break in that communion of persons. When someone

00:36:31.789 --> 00:36:37.369
isolates, separates, breaks away, and is literally

00:36:37.369 --> 00:36:40.510
fracturing that sense of communion, there's a

00:36:40.510 --> 00:36:42.949
tremendous sadness because there's not flourishing.

00:36:43.489 --> 00:36:50.519
And so that's how fundamental This reality of

00:36:50.519 --> 00:36:54.519
communion is. And again, communion as John Paul

00:36:54.519 --> 00:36:58.340
II defines it is a dialogue. It's a dialogue

00:36:58.340 --> 00:37:03.559
of love and truth. So this is what I would bring

00:37:03.559 --> 00:37:06.980
to the reality of coaching. So I would get into

00:37:06.980 --> 00:37:09.840
often in rooms and I'd love having a big whiteboard

00:37:09.840 --> 00:37:12.460
there. And when someone would come in for the

00:37:12.460 --> 00:37:14.300
meeting or I'd go to their office and we have

00:37:14.300 --> 00:37:17.119
a meeting or even often it would happen over

00:37:17.119 --> 00:37:20.420
Zoom. I would have a meeting. And there was this

00:37:20.420 --> 00:37:23.840
sense of I thou, I'm looking you in the eyes

00:37:23.840 --> 00:37:27.199
and I'm here to be open to you, to receive you.

00:37:27.280 --> 00:37:29.440
And in receiving you, I want to be open to what

00:37:29.440 --> 00:37:31.099
it is you have to say. I want to be able to,

00:37:31.119 --> 00:37:34.400
in that moment, be able to draw out of you through

00:37:34.400 --> 00:37:36.780
the dialogue we have insights that will help

00:37:36.780 --> 00:37:39.280
you then recognize what's at stake right now

00:37:39.280 --> 00:37:43.820
so that you can then take an action. What I just

00:37:43.820 --> 00:37:47.840
shared with you is an understanding of a coaching.

00:37:48.539 --> 00:37:53.380
Or let's call it the process of coaching. There's

00:37:53.380 --> 00:37:57.300
dialogue that leads to insight that then leads

00:37:57.300 --> 00:38:04.139
to action. Dialogue, insight, action. Hold on

00:38:04.139 --> 00:38:09.380
to that. Because whether it's a situation of

00:38:09.380 --> 00:38:13.059
you and your own vocation as a husband and a

00:38:13.059 --> 00:38:19.239
father, dialogue, insight, action. Dialogue means

00:38:19.239 --> 00:38:22.099
what? I have some of the answers in me, but you

00:38:22.099 --> 00:38:23.920
have some of the answers in you. And there's

00:38:23.920 --> 00:38:26.199
some answers that we need to have that come from

00:38:26.199 --> 00:38:28.539
beyond us that we're going to draw from sources

00:38:28.539 --> 00:38:31.280
of insight. And then we're going to try to welcome

00:38:31.280 --> 00:38:34.199
them in. And as we see into our life situation,

00:38:34.559 --> 00:38:38.280
we then want to know how to take the right action,

00:38:38.380 --> 00:38:44.300
gracious action. And so I would very simply just

00:38:44.300 --> 00:38:48.820
lay out that fundamental idea. that we're here

00:38:48.820 --> 00:38:51.579
to have a dialogue and the goal of it is to have

00:38:51.579 --> 00:38:54.280
insight. And what's the alternative of insight

00:38:54.280 --> 00:38:57.980
is information, right? I don't want to simply

00:38:57.980 --> 00:39:01.539
give you facts and data. However, facts and data

00:39:01.539 --> 00:39:05.420
that can bring a light into a circumstance, that's

00:39:05.420 --> 00:39:07.239
different. Now it's not just facts and data.

00:39:07.320 --> 00:39:11.579
It's applicable. It's relevant. It's helping

00:39:11.579 --> 00:39:14.840
to shed literally light on something so that

00:39:14.840 --> 00:39:20.219
I can see more clearly. And so that's part of

00:39:20.219 --> 00:39:22.539
the call we have. If we're going to live our

00:39:22.539 --> 00:39:25.820
lives as disciples, we want to be involved in

00:39:25.820 --> 00:39:29.760
life -giving dialogue that leads to insight that

00:39:29.760 --> 00:39:34.000
then is the basis for taking action. Guess where

00:39:34.000 --> 00:39:36.440
that happens first, brothers and sisters? Prayer.

00:39:37.659 --> 00:39:40.619
Prayer. You want to have a definition of prayer?

00:39:41.340 --> 00:39:46.880
Prayer is a dialogue, a communion of you with

00:39:46.880 --> 00:39:49.739
the living God, Father, Son, and Holy Spirit,

00:39:49.860 --> 00:39:52.960
because the Spirit of the living God is within

00:39:52.960 --> 00:39:56.960
you, and that Holy Spirit will help stir into

00:39:56.960 --> 00:40:02.699
visibility the presence of Jesus, who looks you

00:40:02.699 --> 00:40:07.659
in the eyes, fosters a deeper union, and the

00:40:07.659 --> 00:40:10.840
Lord will help you see the Father, because he

00:40:10.840 --> 00:40:14.980
will turn you towards the Father. He'll help

00:40:14.980 --> 00:40:18.219
you see with his eyes. No one sees the Father

00:40:18.219 --> 00:40:20.880
except the Son and anyone to whom the Son reveals

00:40:20.880 --> 00:40:26.840
him. And so this dialogue that is prayer will

00:40:26.840 --> 00:40:31.059
lead to new sight, literally revelation. You'll

00:40:31.059 --> 00:40:35.980
come to a new light. And when you see a new truth

00:40:35.980 --> 00:40:40.900
that comes from God, you must act. If you believe

00:40:40.900 --> 00:40:42.860
that you're going to see a new truth from God

00:40:42.860 --> 00:40:44.980
and not act, you haven't seen the truth from

00:40:44.980 --> 00:40:48.219
God. You've just gained a new fact. You've just

00:40:48.219 --> 00:40:50.760
gained a new piece of information, even if it's

00:40:50.760 --> 00:40:53.659
correct information. But if it doesn't move you

00:40:53.659 --> 00:40:57.019
to take action, then you haven't received it

00:40:57.019 --> 00:40:59.900
as real insight, but rather just as information.

00:41:00.739 --> 00:41:13.780
Back in a minute. is involved in a relationship.

00:41:14.900 --> 00:41:18.159
That relationship that I refer to as coaching,

00:41:18.300 --> 00:41:20.320
but it's also, guess what? It's your marriage.

00:41:20.440 --> 00:41:23.739
It's your family. It's father to sons, mother

00:41:23.739 --> 00:41:27.500
to daughter, parents to kids. And yes, it's even

00:41:27.500 --> 00:41:30.760
among co -workers and among friends. Take that

00:41:30.760 --> 00:41:38.079
map out. Take that concept of coaching as a specific

00:41:38.969 --> 00:41:41.429
intentional activity of dialogue that leads to

00:41:41.429 --> 00:41:45.730
insight and then takes action as a way for you

00:41:45.730 --> 00:41:49.090
to live out this reality that you're made in

00:41:49.090 --> 00:41:51.389
the image of god as a communion of persons and

00:41:51.389 --> 00:41:53.250
that's what you're called to live and to foster

00:41:53.250 --> 00:41:57.349
in your life now there's one other principle

00:41:57.349 --> 00:41:59.510
i'll bring out today that's all i have time for

00:41:59.510 --> 00:42:03.110
i'm kind of really laying foundational ideas

00:42:03.110 --> 00:42:06.230
here well I'll give you more practical examples

00:42:06.230 --> 00:42:09.010
and some principles that you'll find applicable,

00:42:09.130 --> 00:42:13.469
but this foundational vision is so very important.

00:42:14.230 --> 00:42:17.590
The last foundational principle I'm going to

00:42:17.590 --> 00:42:21.789
share today is the truth that is in the scriptures,

00:42:21.949 --> 00:42:23.969
it's in our tradition. Thomas Aquinas sums it

00:42:23.969 --> 00:42:26.469
up very powerfully, and it has a wonderful application

00:42:26.469 --> 00:42:30.469
here, is that we live our lives in time. And

00:42:30.469 --> 00:42:32.170
so as we live our lives in time, we are headed

00:42:32.170 --> 00:42:35.820
towards a goal. right? We're on the way. That's

00:42:35.820 --> 00:42:40.239
the phrase. We live our lives on the way. And

00:42:40.239 --> 00:42:43.920
so Thomas Aquinas says that if you want to like

00:42:43.920 --> 00:42:46.539
get into the core of someone's being, what you'll

00:42:46.539 --> 00:42:50.760
discover is that they are homo viator, one who

00:42:50.760 --> 00:42:54.920
is on the way, one who is on the way. And that

00:42:54.920 --> 00:42:58.639
means that, oh, I'm not perfect all by myself.

00:42:59.260 --> 00:43:04.230
I'm not yet complete. I'm called, to the perfection

00:43:04.230 --> 00:43:07.429
of charity. I'm called to let that perfect, that

00:43:07.429 --> 00:43:10.630
love of God become perfected in me. Love the

00:43:10.630 --> 00:43:12.070
Lord by God with all my heart, soul, mind, and

00:43:12.070 --> 00:43:15.050
strength. But I'm on the way. I'm on the journey.

00:43:16.130 --> 00:43:18.570
And the way that St. Thomas Aquinas maps this

00:43:18.570 --> 00:43:21.550
out is that if I'm on the journey, well, guess

00:43:21.550 --> 00:43:23.769
what? There's been a point of departure, right?

00:43:23.849 --> 00:43:27.630
I got launched into this journey that I'm on.

00:43:27.730 --> 00:43:29.820
Oh, that was the... moment that you were conceived.

00:43:30.079 --> 00:43:31.739
That was the moment that you were born into this

00:43:31.739 --> 00:43:34.940
world. That was the moment when you had the loving

00:43:34.940 --> 00:43:38.599
smile of your mother on you that evoked out of

00:43:38.599 --> 00:43:42.079
you this awareness that you love me. That was

00:43:42.079 --> 00:43:44.800
the first thing that surfaced your very sense

00:43:44.800 --> 00:43:47.579
of your own self, was that act of being loved

00:43:47.579 --> 00:43:51.179
by the smile of your mother. That so says Hans

00:43:51.179 --> 00:43:55.539
Urs von Balthasar, quoted by Cardinal Ratzinger

00:43:55.539 --> 00:43:59.730
before he was Pope. And so this fundamental reality

00:43:59.730 --> 00:44:02.730
of I'm on the journey, well, that's where I came

00:44:02.730 --> 00:44:05.809
from. But I'm at this particular point where

00:44:05.809 --> 00:44:09.449
I'm at now. I've made some progress along the

00:44:09.449 --> 00:44:12.210
way. I've come far. I've grown to some extent.

00:44:12.309 --> 00:44:14.550
But you know what? I'm not done yet. There's

00:44:14.550 --> 00:44:16.869
still a distance I have to go. I haven't yet

00:44:16.869 --> 00:44:19.969
arrived, right? Just yesterday, I was talking

00:44:19.969 --> 00:44:22.530
to my kids, just saying to them, I said, now

00:44:22.530 --> 00:44:25.110
remember, what's our life all about, right? What's

00:44:25.110 --> 00:44:27.650
the fulfillment of our life? Because they were

00:44:27.650 --> 00:44:29.670
talking about some of the things they were giving

00:44:29.670 --> 00:44:31.489
up for Lent. And I said, remember now, where

00:44:31.489 --> 00:44:35.190
are we headed, right? And I said, what's the

00:44:35.190 --> 00:44:37.750
goal of everything? Where are we all headed?

00:44:37.929 --> 00:44:39.389
And they didn't say we're all headed to death.

00:44:39.630 --> 00:44:41.809
They said, we're all headed to heaven. That's

00:44:41.809 --> 00:44:45.730
the goal. That's the call. And I can realize

00:44:45.730 --> 00:44:49.630
that I'm not yet there. I'm not yet there. And

00:44:49.630 --> 00:44:56.750
so these three key moments. map out this journey

00:44:56.750 --> 00:45:02.409
of, I started here, this is how far I've come,

00:45:02.550 --> 00:45:06.329
but this is where I'm headed. Now that fundamental

00:45:06.329 --> 00:45:09.809
structure of being a human being, guess what?

00:45:10.230 --> 00:45:14.210
It also maps itself out in the course of different

00:45:14.210 --> 00:45:18.650
stages of our lives, like in careers. Or you

00:45:18.650 --> 00:45:21.130
could say even in marriage. Carrie and I, we

00:45:21.130 --> 00:45:23.730
got launched into our marriage August 12, 1994.

00:45:24.289 --> 00:45:27.170
Okay, we're 31 years in. We don't know how much

00:45:27.170 --> 00:45:29.710
longer we have, right? But we can see where we've

00:45:29.710 --> 00:45:32.829
come from. We can see where we're at. And we

00:45:32.829 --> 00:45:35.269
want to get a vision of where we're headed. The

00:45:35.269 --> 00:45:37.210
same is true with raising our kids. Okay, that

00:45:37.210 --> 00:45:40.550
all began September the 28th, 1999, when our

00:45:40.550 --> 00:45:42.989
first daughter was born. And it's continued on

00:45:42.989 --> 00:45:45.389
until now. And we're still trying to figure out

00:45:45.389 --> 00:45:47.670
what is the right now moment of our lives as

00:45:47.670 --> 00:45:49.929
parents look like. Well, it's all headed towards

00:45:49.929 --> 00:45:52.730
some future state, right? Carrie puts like a

00:45:52.730 --> 00:45:55.909
picture up of her mom with all of her, you know,

00:45:55.909 --> 00:45:59.989
50 some odd grandchildren and great -grandchildren,

00:46:00.090 --> 00:46:03.570
another 30, and just all the others, just in

00:46:03.570 --> 00:46:05.719
the great -grandchildren. children, right? So

00:46:05.719 --> 00:46:11.179
this reality of where are we headed is, again,

00:46:11.260 --> 00:46:15.820
it speaks of that journey. And that's where the

00:46:15.820 --> 00:46:19.139
theme of accompaniment shows up. Pope Francis

00:46:19.139 --> 00:46:23.480
made it famous. I actually used it. So way back

00:46:23.480 --> 00:46:26.780
in the early 2000s, when I described what I did

00:46:26.780 --> 00:46:29.400
as a coach is I accompanied people. I walked

00:46:29.400 --> 00:46:32.340
with them because I was bringing this Thomas

00:46:32.340 --> 00:46:35.840
Aquinas insight into the structure of what it

00:46:35.840 --> 00:46:39.340
means to be a human being. And so a spiritual

00:46:39.340 --> 00:46:41.139
director is someone, not a spiritual director,

00:46:41.179 --> 00:46:42.579
yes, a spiritual director, because that's the

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model. But as a coach, what do I do? I walk with

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people. I walk with them. I accompany them from

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a starting point. And we recognize where we're

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at. And then we want to have that other point

00:46:51.940 --> 00:46:54.380
of where we want to be headed, right? We want

00:46:54.380 --> 00:46:57.619
it where we want to go. And so that actually

00:46:57.619 --> 00:47:01.619
identifies in our tradition three fundamental

00:47:01.619 --> 00:47:04.780
themes. And these are three fundamental themes

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that are associated with your call to love in

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your marriage, in your family, and yes, even

00:47:13.019 --> 00:47:16.699
in your workplace. and just our life lived in

00:47:16.699 --> 00:47:19.940
the world. Those three themes connected to our

00:47:19.940 --> 00:47:23.039
point of departure, our current reality, and

00:47:23.039 --> 00:47:25.599
that point of arrival where we're headed, our

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support, encouragement, and accountability. Support,

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encouragement, and accountability. Now, we often

00:47:35.780 --> 00:47:37.679
hear about accountability if you go to a men's

00:47:37.679 --> 00:47:40.960
conference. It's like the big theme. You go there

00:47:40.960 --> 00:47:42.920
and the guys will rally people up and they'll

00:47:42.920 --> 00:47:44.519
say, come on guys, get off the sidelines, get

00:47:44.519 --> 00:47:45.960
into the game. And do you know what you need?

00:47:46.019 --> 00:47:48.280
You need an accountability partner. You need

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someone who's going to hold you accountable.

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So if you're struggling with a sin, that brother

00:47:52.860 --> 00:47:54.860
is going to help make sure that you're freed

00:47:54.860 --> 00:47:57.280
from sin. Accountability, incredibly important.

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But there's far more to it than that. And I think

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this is where men's... speakers or men's conferences

00:48:06.239 --> 00:48:09.440
would benefit from a deeper study of Aquinas

00:48:09.440 --> 00:48:12.239
on this matter and our Catholic tradition, because

00:48:12.239 --> 00:48:15.739
you would see these three themes. You support

00:48:15.739 --> 00:48:18.440
someone where they're struggling. That has to

00:48:18.440 --> 00:48:21.280
do with, this is how far you've come, and I've

00:48:21.280 --> 00:48:23.340
got your back. I don't want you to fall back.

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Encouragement. This is standing in the present,

00:48:27.460 --> 00:48:30.739
and this is saying, look at what you're doing.

00:48:31.199 --> 00:48:33.840
I want to put courage into the core of your being,

00:48:33.860 --> 00:48:36.519
right into your heart. I want to help you to

00:48:36.519 --> 00:48:39.059
be able to continue going. Let's keep going to

00:48:39.059 --> 00:48:42.139
cheerlead you on. So that encouragement. And

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then, yes, accountability. You know what? You

00:48:44.000 --> 00:48:47.559
haven't arrived yet. There's still room for growth.

00:48:48.139 --> 00:48:50.639
There's still a gap that exists between where

00:48:50.639 --> 00:48:53.679
you're at and where you're headed, where you've

00:48:53.679 --> 00:48:58.980
envisioned going. And so what I found is. Guess

00:48:58.980 --> 00:49:01.800
what? Did I find this as a husband, a father,

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or as an executive coach and a trusted advisor

00:49:05.739 --> 00:49:08.900
to C -level executives? The answer is yes to

00:49:08.900 --> 00:49:12.139
all three, support, encouragement, and accountability.

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And this is what's so interesting is that I've

00:49:15.199 --> 00:49:18.840
laid out that theme at men's conferences, at

00:49:18.840 --> 00:49:22.059
marriage retreats, and yes, at corporate off

00:49:22.059 --> 00:49:26.260
-sites. Off -sites to, again, leadership teams

00:49:26.260 --> 00:49:30.059
of C -level or high -level executives, I've mapped

00:49:30.059 --> 00:49:32.519
out this reality that you're on the way, guys,

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and you need to be able to support each other,

00:49:34.820 --> 00:49:37.440
encourage each other, and yes, hold each other

00:49:37.440 --> 00:49:42.099
accountable. And it's a fascinating thing to

00:49:42.099 --> 00:49:47.239
think about that. How do I consciously and intentionally

00:49:47.239 --> 00:49:52.960
hold on to those things in my own life? Where

00:49:52.960 --> 00:49:56.550
do I find support when I'm struggling? Where

00:49:56.550 --> 00:49:59.889
do I find encouragement when I'm making progress

00:49:59.889 --> 00:50:04.869
and who's noticing it, who's affirming it, celebrating

00:50:04.869 --> 00:50:07.730
it, cheering me on and acknowledging it and saying,

00:50:07.769 --> 00:50:12.110
keep going. And who is helping me be accountable

00:50:12.110 --> 00:50:15.429
to my own highest ideals, not your ideals for

00:50:15.429 --> 00:50:19.130
me, but my own highest ideals to say, you're

00:50:19.130 --> 00:50:21.530
going to get there. Come on, keep moving forward.

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We got this. And those three actions are all

00:50:26.809 --> 00:50:31.690
actions of love. And when I describe the three

00:50:31.690 --> 00:50:34.289
of them, and I'll describe them in more depth

00:50:34.289 --> 00:50:38.469
in future programs, what does it mean to actually

00:50:38.469 --> 00:50:42.329
support a loved one, a child who's struggling,

00:50:42.469 --> 00:50:47.230
a spouse, a parent, or a friend? I've offered

00:50:47.230 --> 00:50:50.710
support to so many folks just in my own life.

00:50:50.769 --> 00:50:53.570
And what does that support look like? It's an

00:50:53.570 --> 00:50:57.190
act of loving. But so is encouragement. And how

00:50:57.190 --> 00:50:59.949
do I do that well? And so is accountability.

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And that's the one I think we struggle with the

00:51:02.590 --> 00:51:09.030
most. We most understand it poorly and apply

00:51:09.030 --> 00:51:13.989
it even more poorly. And so to be able to, I

00:51:13.989 --> 00:51:16.329
want to bring you insights that, again, what's

00:51:16.329 --> 00:51:18.110
so interesting is, do you know who's interested

00:51:18.110 --> 00:51:21.110
in accountability? Corporate America. There's

00:51:21.110 --> 00:51:23.690
so many organizations where I've met with these

00:51:23.690 --> 00:51:27.349
big leadership teams, and they wanted whole sessions

00:51:27.349 --> 00:51:30.789
on accountability. I'm bringing them Catholic

00:51:30.789 --> 00:51:33.590
understanding of accountability without ever

00:51:33.590 --> 00:51:36.550
mentioning the Bible or any Catholic saint. It's

00:51:36.550 --> 00:51:41.289
good human insight. It's human insight that will

00:51:41.289 --> 00:51:46.489
help groups of people to flourish. And so walking

00:51:46.489 --> 00:51:50.739
with folks and being a trusted advisor. or a

00:51:50.739 --> 00:51:52.699
confidential sounding board, because that's what

00:51:52.699 --> 00:51:55.340
coaching does. It's like a therapeutic, like

00:51:55.340 --> 00:51:57.599
a therapist session where there's confidentiality.

00:51:57.699 --> 00:52:01.440
So to be able to have a sounding board, someone

00:52:01.440 --> 00:52:04.800
that I'm going to bounce things off of, oh, there

00:52:04.800 --> 00:52:08.320
we go. There's that circulation again. So for

00:52:08.320 --> 00:52:10.360
a CEO to have a confidential sounding board,

00:52:10.440 --> 00:52:13.960
it's just so crucial. Very often as people move

00:52:13.960 --> 00:52:16.880
higher in leadership, in organizations, they

00:52:16.880 --> 00:52:19.800
get isolated. They get isolated from their ability

00:52:19.800 --> 00:52:24.440
to speak freely. And so what they value so greatly

00:52:24.440 --> 00:52:29.800
is a trusted advisor. Someone who says, I see

00:52:29.800 --> 00:52:34.559
you. I see the situation you're in. And together,

00:52:34.679 --> 00:52:37.880
I want to walk with you. And sometimes in walking

00:52:37.880 --> 00:52:42.219
with you, I'm going to offer you guidance that

00:52:42.219 --> 00:52:46.059
is support where you're struggling. Let's figure

00:52:46.059 --> 00:52:49.030
out. how to do that. Let's figure out how to

00:52:49.030 --> 00:52:51.489
get you the support that is needed here to address

00:52:51.489 --> 00:52:55.690
this. Encouragement, let's figure out how to

00:52:55.690 --> 00:52:57.750
put more courage into this leadership team to

00:52:57.750 --> 00:52:59.429
take on the challenges that they're facing right

00:52:59.429 --> 00:53:01.909
now. And then let's also talk about accountability.

00:53:02.130 --> 00:53:05.230
Let's try to get insight into, let's try to diagnose

00:53:05.230 --> 00:53:08.670
some of the biggest strategic challenges that

00:53:08.670 --> 00:53:10.570
you're facing, and then let's come up with a

00:53:10.570 --> 00:53:15.260
way to address them. And so What I've discovered

00:53:15.260 --> 00:53:18.820
was my own background in the seminary with all

00:53:18.820 --> 00:53:21.539
of that beautiful formation, my own work in the

00:53:21.539 --> 00:53:26.679
church, working in a wonderful parish under a

00:53:26.679 --> 00:53:28.900
great pastor, and then working up at the international

00:53:28.900 --> 00:53:32.679
level with Evangelization 2000 and having wonderful

00:53:32.679 --> 00:53:35.900
access and relationships with these amazing Catholic

00:53:35.900 --> 00:53:39.960
leaders around the world. These truths that I

00:53:39.960 --> 00:53:42.199
absorbed from them and through my studies and

00:53:42.199 --> 00:53:45.579
my PhD work in systematic theology, where my

00:53:45.579 --> 00:53:47.739
dissertation was on, guess what, interreligious

00:53:47.739 --> 00:53:51.780
dialogue. I was able to apply all of that, not

00:53:51.780 --> 00:53:55.019
only in my ministry work, but in corporate America

00:53:55.019 --> 00:53:58.579
to great effect. And so can you. So can you.

00:53:58.659 --> 00:54:01.460
So go deeper into your Catholic faith and apply

00:54:01.460 --> 00:54:02.940
it in your professional life.
