1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:11,920 Hello everybody and welcome to a new episode of the Awaken Together podcast. 2 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:15,920 I'm Kat and today I am joined by my friend Havana Stegner. 3 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:16,920 Hi Havana. 4 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:17,920 Hello. 5 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:20,240 Thank you so much for having me. 6 00:00:20,240 --> 00:00:22,840 Of course and so glad you're here. 7 00:00:22,840 --> 00:00:25,680 So I want to introduce you to everybody. 8 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:28,280 Havana is an Ayurvedic wellness educator. 9 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:34,440 She's a yoga teacher, a ritualist, and the founder of Have Healing Arts. 10 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:38,480 We're in Denver right now but she is soon going to be moving to Portland. 11 00:00:38,480 --> 00:00:43,280 So if you're out in the Pacific Northwest, look out for her in a couple months. 12 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:44,280 I'm so excited. 13 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:47,280 Yeah, Jake moves coming. 14 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:52,960 We met through nurture and it's just been such a joy to know and you are such an old 15 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:53,960 soul. 16 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:55,920 Like I am amazed. 17 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:58,880 So much to give in such a young package. 18 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:02,760 It's always so inspiring and amazing to just witness you and your work. 19 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:03,760 Thank you so much. 20 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:04,880 I really appreciate that. 21 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:07,120 And thanks for having me on the podcast. 22 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:11,800 I'm really excited to just have the ability to talk about what I do and why I love it 23 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:14,200 and just connect with you over all things Ayurveda. 24 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:15,200 Awesome. 25 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:16,200 Yeah. 26 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:18,360 So today is going to be like an Ayurveda 2.0. 27 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:24,520 So Jen and I, we are not super well versed in Ayurveda like you are. 28 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:28,880 And we did our best last time to kind of give a high level overview of the dosha's as it 29 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:30,280 was taught to us. 30 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:35,240 But today we're going to go a lot deeper because we have you as a gift here able to 31 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:36,720 share that with us. 32 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:40,960 So first I always like to just start getting to know like you and your story. 33 00:01:40,960 --> 00:01:45,440 So how did you initially get drawn into Ayurveda? 34 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:46,440 Yeah. 35 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:53,160 I think like most people who work with Ayurveda or find their kind of life's passion, it's 36 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:56,360 like Ayurveda definitely found me. 37 00:01:56,360 --> 00:01:57,600 I was teaching yoga. 38 00:01:57,600 --> 00:02:00,880 I've been teaching yoga for quite a few years now. 39 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:06,280 And I was in a place of feeling pretty good. 40 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:12,920 Like I've never had extreme health issues in my life, but I certainly didn't feel great. 41 00:02:12,920 --> 00:02:19,120 Like I didn't feel like I was thriving physically, mentally, spiritually, all the things. 42 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:25,600 And so I was looking for a way to just expand my knowledge and have something to learn in 43 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:27,160 a tool. 44 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:30,640 Not even really to give it to other people, but just out of curiosity of like what is 45 00:02:30,640 --> 00:02:31,640 this thing? 46 00:02:31,640 --> 00:02:33,480 I've heard of it from yoga teacher training. 47 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:35,280 Let me dive in. 48 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:40,160 And then as I started to learn more about Ayurveda through you know, podcast books, all the 49 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:46,800 things and started implementing the teachings into my daily life, I was like, oh, I feel 50 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:48,200 so much better. 51 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:50,600 Surprise, surprise. 52 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:56,360 And I didn't even fully realize what level of hormone imbalance and gut issues and brain 53 00:02:56,360 --> 00:03:03,080 fog and just like emotional instability I was having until I reached a place of balance 54 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:09,280 that I was able to look back and just feel so grateful that I found this medicine. 55 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:14,320 So then once I had implemented the teachings into my life as best as I could with the knowledge 56 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:15,880 that I had at that time. 57 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:20,000 I decided I wanted to dive in a little bit more. 58 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:25,360 And so I enrolled in the Shakti school that's founded by Katie Silcox and she does amazing 59 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:26,600 work. 60 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:29,160 She works with feminine form Ayurveda. 61 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:35,040 So Ayurveda can be very dogmatic, very old school, where she applies a really awesome 62 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:36,360 modern approach. 63 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:41,920 And so I did her year long program and I graduated in January and now I've since founded my 64 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:43,800 own business. 65 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:48,760 And I'm working one-on-one with clients as well as creating like herbal blends and spice 66 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:51,720 blends and massage oils and all those good things. 67 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:53,800 Hmm, so yummy. 68 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:54,800 So exciting. 69 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:58,360 I love to see this journey that you're on now. 70 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:00,040 It's amazing. 71 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:05,960 And so you mentioned before like you were coming from a place of not being in balance 72 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:10,200 and then by utilizing these practices you found balance. 73 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:12,920 What are some examples of things that you were experiencing before? 74 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:17,480 And the reason I ask is because I'm wondering if our listeners might resonate with some 75 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:22,920 of those things and be able to be like, okay, Ayurveda can help me with this. 76 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:23,920 Absolutely. 77 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:29,760 So there's all ends of the spectrum of what we experience in terms of our health. 78 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:35,560 What I was personally going through was just a lot of inflammation, a lot of gut issues 79 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:41,200 and issues with digestion as like physically as well as being able to emotionally digest 80 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:43,800 my own life. 81 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:47,760 Hormone imbalance, which I know is something that you've talked about on the podcast before, 82 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:52,640 a lot of skin issues that I was having that I've finally just got dialed in now. 83 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:55,200 It's been a journey with that. 84 00:04:55,200 --> 00:05:00,280 And then just outside of the physical stuff, just purpose and dharma and understanding 85 00:05:00,280 --> 00:05:05,240 spirituality and end my relationship with nature, that's been a huge part of Ayurveda. 86 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:11,520 Because truly, Ayurveda is just asking the question of how can we be in better sync with 87 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:12,520 nature? 88 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:13,520 I love that. 89 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:14,520 It's what I love about Ayurveda. 90 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:16,480 It's such a holistic approach, right? 91 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:17,480 Absolutely. 92 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:22,160 And that's obviously something I'm super passionate about as a holistic health coach as well is 93 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:29,920 we can't look at health as just food or just what we do. 94 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:35,120 It's not just our emotional body, it's spiritual, it's nature, it's everything and. 95 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:38,640 And so I'm wondering what are some of the things that you help clients with when you 96 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:40,480 work one-on-one with people? 97 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:41,480 Absolutely. 98 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:48,520 So my main focus with a one-on-one client is nutrition for sure and digestion. 99 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:52,840 So we start by doing a really in-depth intake process. 100 00:05:52,840 --> 00:05:57,640 Like I ask all the very intimate questions for sure. 101 00:05:57,640 --> 00:06:02,280 And then from there, they take away just a few things to work on and we build from there. 102 00:06:02,280 --> 00:06:08,520 And those few things include what spices to use, what spices to avoid, foods to eat, 103 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:14,920 foods not to eat, as well as daily routine ritual practices. 104 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:19,000 And then most clients we do a little bit of an herbal regimen. 105 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:24,240 However, I prefer dialing in the relationship to food, how they're cooking it, how they're 106 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:28,040 spicing it before bringing in herbs. 107 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:33,240 Because I think a lot of us look at herbal remedies the same way that Western medicine 108 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:38,040 looks at prescriptions of like, I'm dealing with this problem, here's this herb, it's 109 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:41,360 going to fix it when really we want to get to the root cause. 110 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:46,920 And herbs can do the same thing that prescriptions can do, where they work for a little while 111 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:49,000 and then they stop working. 112 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:52,480 Although they'll have less side effects than prescriptions, it's definitely a better route 113 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:53,480 to start. 114 00:06:53,480 --> 00:07:00,240 So, food, diet, ritual routine, then we move on to more extreme, not extreme, but more 115 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:01,840 aggressive remedies like herbs. 116 00:07:01,840 --> 00:07:02,840 Yeah, awesome. 117 00:07:02,840 --> 00:07:05,480 That's really, really cool to hear. 118 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:08,880 And so, when you mention like different herbs for different people and doing all of that 119 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:14,280 intake, something that the way that I was taught Ayurveda is like, oh, what's your 120 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:15,280 dosha? 121 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:19,720 And so, I'm curious how much of like the work that you do with people has to relate 122 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:23,080 with a dosha, multiple doshas. 123 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:25,320 Can you demystify that for us? 124 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:26,320 Absolutely. 125 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:31,200 So, Tridosha theory is truly everything in Ayurveda, which I love because it's the rule 126 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:39,000 of threes, it's simple, and it also highlights our relationship with nature. 127 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:47,360 So the three doshas, pitta, vata, and katha are categories, subcategories of the elements, 128 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:48,360 essentially. 129 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:55,560 So we break air, ether, earth, water, and fire, and we break those into the three doshas. 130 00:07:55,560 --> 00:08:00,720 So, in the intake process, part of all the questions that I ask will give me a better 131 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:07,640 idea of what dosha is highest in the system, or which dosha is, because it can be multiple. 132 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:13,120 And from there, we use that information to identify what changes need to happen. 133 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:17,640 So, if someone has really high fiery energy, so they have that really high pitta in their 134 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:23,160 body and that can look like numerous different things, we might find like cooling spices, 135 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:27,160 cooling routines, cooling herbs to balance that out. 136 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:31,480 So Ayurveda operates on the rule of opposites. 137 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:36,480 And so it's always like increases like, and so if someone's really high in their fire, 138 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:42,680 really high in their earth, or whatever element we're working with there, we want to heal 139 00:08:42,680 --> 00:08:47,200 that with the opposite instead of increasing it with the same. 140 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:48,200 That makes total sense. 141 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:49,200 Super simple. 142 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:50,200 Yeah, right? 143 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:54,320 It's just taking that little like zoomed out approach and having a little bit of organization 144 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:56,840 structure to it to apply it. 145 00:08:56,840 --> 00:09:01,200 So for example, let's take me. 146 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:06,120 I've learned that when I'm imbalanced, I'm more pitta. 147 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:09,280 And when I'm out of balance, I go more towards vatta. 148 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:16,320 And I get like, I'm anxiety prone, my thoughts will race, I get cold. 149 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:22,600 So what would you recommend someone like I do in terms of diet and the things that you 150 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:26,800 usually work with your clients on to bring me back to that balance? 151 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:33,000 Yeah, so with anything, we want to, I think the practice of Ayurveda is really the practice 152 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:35,680 of study and paying attention. 153 00:09:35,680 --> 00:09:40,360 And so if you notice that when you're really high in your pitta or you're really out of 154 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:44,960 balance and you switch to vatta, so if we look at the elements of fire and we look at 155 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:50,400 the elements of air, sometimes the imbalance could happen because your pitta is so hot 156 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:54,440 that it burns everything up and then there's just air and space left. 157 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:58,000 So there's that primary secondary approach as well. 158 00:09:58,000 --> 00:10:03,320 So it could be that your fire blows out either because you're burning too much or because 159 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:07,240 you have something else coming that's taking the fire away. 160 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:12,320 From there, if you go into your vatta imbalance, you would want which vatta the qualities of 161 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:17,760 vatta are going to be a lot of movement, a lot of anxiety like you were saying, a lot 162 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:18,760 of airy qualities. 163 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:21,360 We want to ground those with more earth and water. 164 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:27,440 So inviting in the opposite and earth and water, kafa is very grounding for pitta as 165 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:28,440 well. 166 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:36,560 Yeah, one of my yoga teachers mentioned that kafa is what we all want more of. 167 00:10:36,560 --> 00:10:38,440 It's like that mom energy. 168 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:43,160 Right, it's just like so held and loved and seen. 169 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:46,480 And yeah, I definitely need more of that in my life. 170 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:49,280 I just feel best when I'm like that. 171 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:50,280 Absolutely. 172 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:55,600 I mean, most of us, if you just look at the high-pace society that we live in, most of 173 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:59,600 us are pitted out because we're stuck in loops of reacting. 174 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:01,120 We have to defend ourselves. 175 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:02,120 We're in that fight. 176 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:05,080 If we're talking about the nervous system, we're in fight a lot. 177 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:06,960 Or we're vatted out. 178 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:07,960 We're anxious. 179 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:09,680 We're driving from thing to thing to thing. 180 00:11:09,680 --> 00:11:11,400 We have a million things on our to-do list. 181 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:15,440 We're overwhelmed and we're in that kind of flighty space too. 182 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:18,080 And so what we need is to ground both of those. 183 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:21,640 And kafa definitely does have its downsides, right? 184 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:24,560 So every doshas has, there's two sides of the coin, right? 185 00:11:24,560 --> 00:11:30,280 So too much kafa in the system can look like depression or lethargy as well as more physical 186 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:36,640 symptoms like slow, sluggish digestion, brain fog, all of that. 187 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:41,600 So we want really the ideas that all three doshas, we have all three of them, and we 188 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:45,120 want all three to work together so that they can support each other. 189 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:47,040 Yeah, love that. 190 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:53,240 And one idea that I want to bring in based on what you were saying of when I'm in balance, 191 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:57,240 I'm higher in my pitta, when I'm out of balance, I'm higher in my vata. 192 00:11:57,240 --> 00:12:01,200 And so there's this idea in our yaveta called prokhrati and vikrti. 193 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:05,680 And this is, I think, an important piece of the puzzle that we're missing when we just 194 00:12:05,680 --> 00:12:10,600 go online and do a dosha quiz is we're not even viewing the holistic practice holistically. 195 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:15,480 So we have to honor it by kind of looking at the whole picture of how our yaveta does 196 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:19,160 its diagnosis practice. 197 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:25,560 But prokhrati is your constitution, which is going to be the ratio of each dosha that 198 00:12:25,560 --> 00:12:29,280 you have, but at conception. 199 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:32,120 And so there's a lot of things that go into play with that. 200 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:36,960 It's the season that you were conceived in, the state of the health of your parents, even 201 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:41,920 what they were eating, the night they conceived you, literally every detail in that moment. 202 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:47,480 So it's not birth, it's your constitution at conception when the sperm meets the egg, 203 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:49,640 the very beginning moment. 204 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:50,720 And so that's your baseline. 205 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:54,080 And so for you, if you're saying like, when I'm in balance, I definitely have those good 206 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:58,840 pitta qualities, that is an indication that you have more pitta in your prokhrati. 207 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:00,640 We still have all three in our prokhrati. 208 00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:02,680 It's just whatever ratio. 209 00:13:02,680 --> 00:13:05,160 Then vikrati is the other side of that. 210 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:09,040 And that's what you're going to find when you take those dosha quizzes or when you have 211 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:14,600 a conversation with a health specialist is typically our imbalance or our current state. 212 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:18,560 So that's going to be your higher vata in your constitution. 213 00:13:18,560 --> 00:13:20,880 Could be a vikrati or it's just moment to moment. 214 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:24,800 There could be, you know, a month that you go through and you're like, wow, I'm experiencing 215 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:27,720 a lot of kafa in my system, but that's just vikrati. 216 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:33,480 It's ever changing day by day, even hours within the day, your vikrati can change based 217 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:36,720 on your environment, what you're eating, et cetera, et cetera. 218 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:37,720 Wow. 219 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:38,720 That is so cool. 220 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:43,160 I feel like that's really the missing piece to my understanding of our vata. 221 00:13:43,160 --> 00:13:44,160 Yeah. 222 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:45,800 Thanks for painting that picture. 223 00:13:45,800 --> 00:13:49,320 I feel like I just get it better already now. 224 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:50,320 Yeah. 225 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:53,800 It makes such a huge difference when we look at it. 226 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:59,160 I see so many people talking about our Ayurveda and having this level of attachment with their 227 00:13:59,160 --> 00:14:00,160 dosha. 228 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:05,040 And so they take this quiz and it's kind of like enneagram or personality thing and 229 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:06,960 you're like, I'm a pizza, I'm a pizza. 230 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:10,000 And then you make your whole personality a pizza. 231 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:14,720 And I say you, but I mean, I literally did that when I was starting Ayurveda as I was 232 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:19,560 so attached to, I'm very high pit to two, but I was really attached to my kaufik nature 233 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:25,680 because I love the fact that I was at that point in my life more grounding and stabilizing 234 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:30,800 and funny enough, like my ex was really high in pitta. 235 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:35,760 I left my pitta and became very kafa to balance him out. 236 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:38,600 So it was really my vikrati, but that's just the side note. 237 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:40,400 No, that's cool. 238 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:43,240 I was really attached to this kaufik nature. 239 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:47,280 And then when I went to school and when I did some self-study, I was like, wait, I am 240 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:48,280 super vata. 241 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:49,280 Wait, I'm super pitta. 242 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:51,240 I'm so confused. 243 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:52,480 What am I? 244 00:14:52,480 --> 00:15:00,000 And the answer to that question, what am I wasn't I am this is that I have everything. 245 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:05,440 So I want all of us and listeners included to when we're looking at Ayurveda to reframe 246 00:15:05,440 --> 00:15:12,480 our perspective and to look at it more of, I have high pitta in my system or I have high 247 00:15:12,480 --> 00:15:14,240 vata in my system. 248 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:15,760 This is my experience right now. 249 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:20,320 I'm observing the experience rather than like, I am this and this is how I will always be 250 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:21,720 and this is who I am. 251 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:27,000 You know, that whole I am versus I have is very big difference, right? 252 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:32,680 That's a big shift in the energy that you attach to or don't attach to it. 253 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:33,680 Absolutely. 254 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:34,680 Yeah. 255 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:35,680 Absolutely. 256 00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:38,840 Because we need the doshas to work together to be in health in different ratios in different 257 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:40,880 ways for everybody. 258 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:46,960 So bioindividuality is so important here, but everybody has all three. 259 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:49,320 Speak in my language with a bioindividuality. 260 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:50,320 Love it. 261 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:57,840 And so you mentioned before that you work with clients with like herbs and spices and 262 00:15:57,840 --> 00:16:04,520 I feel like I have not even really brushed the surface on what all of that entails. 263 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:08,640 So could you share more about like some of the herbs, some of the spices that you usually 264 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:13,080 work with people on like even like meals? 265 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:14,080 I don't know. 266 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:17,440 Like it's just such a mystery and I just want to learn more because I love food and 267 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:21,280 getting creative in ways that support my health is something I'm all about. 268 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:22,280 Absolutely. 269 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:26,920 And this is something with like, I know with your integrative nutrition background, like 270 00:16:26,920 --> 00:16:28,400 that is something that you can just take. 271 00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:31,640 Okay, I have this awesome meal that I've created that's so intentional. 272 00:16:31,640 --> 00:16:35,320 Let me add these three spices on it to now make it digestible. 273 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:36,320 Yes. 274 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:41,440 And so that's the biggest thing with with the spices is that spices are medicine, they 275 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:47,560 carry medicine, they're going to help mediate any imbalances that we're experiencing. 276 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:50,080 They also help us digest our food. 277 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:54,920 And so there's this rule in our Aveda where all of our food as much as possible should 278 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:59,360 be warm, cooked, moist and spiced. 279 00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:04,360 And that helps us break down our food before it even enters our system. 280 00:17:04,360 --> 00:17:10,520 So then it's more bio, bio available and our body can break it down and we can actually 281 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:12,720 access all the nutrients within it. 282 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:13,720 I love that. 283 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:14,720 And it feels so natural. 284 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:21,000 I mean, especially in this time of year or recording this like early spring, late winter, 285 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:24,000 and I really still just find myself wanting warmth. 286 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:25,000 Absolutely. 287 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:26,000 Yeah. 288 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:30,680 But I know that there are some people out there like Jen, for example, who really identifies 289 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:31,880 with Vata. 290 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:33,520 She loves snacking. 291 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:36,000 She loves cold foods, crunchy foods. 292 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:41,240 What would you recommend for someone who that's kind of been their experience with 293 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:47,040 food and spices, like baby steps to how to get there and maybe change that habit? 294 00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:48,040 Absolutely. 295 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:51,840 It's I'm all about baby steps in my approach. 296 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:57,000 So my biggest thing for everyone is to start their day with warm lemon water. 297 00:17:57,000 --> 00:17:58,760 Starting your day with something warm. 298 00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:00,440 If you're like, I'm out of lemons. 299 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:01,440 That's okay. 300 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:03,800 I just don't have the first thing you drink in the morning be cold. 301 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:08,320 And so if someone like Jen who's like, I want all the cold things, if she can just do that 302 00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:15,320 one glass of warm lemon water in the morning, that will create that trust within her system 303 00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:17,320 to invite in that warm. 304 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:18,320 I love that. 305 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:20,080 So starting with one thing, right? 306 00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:22,000 And then any adjustments that you can make. 307 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:26,440 So if you're having like a cold smoothie in the morning, right? 308 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:30,200 And a lot of people, especially in Colorado, we love our smoothies and we'll drink them 309 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:31,480 all year round. 310 00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:32,480 It's great. 311 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:37,840 But maybe in the winter, you add a little bit of dried ginger into your smoothie. 312 00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:39,760 Ginger is a heating spice. 313 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:43,240 So you take that cold smoothie and you just make it a little bit more accessible for your 314 00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:45,680 body without even heating it up. 315 00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:46,680 Right. 316 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:50,440 And then eventually you might want to switch to like some warm oats because, you know, 317 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:53,400 smoothies all the time in the winter can definitely be hard on the body. 318 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:57,040 But if you're help out on your smoothies, then a little ginger. 319 00:18:57,040 --> 00:18:58,360 Oh, yes. 320 00:18:58,360 --> 00:19:05,040 And I feel like even thinking about this holistically, I feel like a lot of Vata people are cold, 321 00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:06,040 right? 322 00:19:06,040 --> 00:19:07,600 That's like one of those traits with it. 323 00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:12,640 And so if they're starting their day with something cold and wondering why the rest 324 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:16,600 of the day they're cold, it's like, okay, well, I fully believe in how we start the 325 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:20,280 day is kind of the energy and the intention that we're bringing into the day. 326 00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:24,240 And so if we're looking to bring some balance into that, like opposites, like what you're 327 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:27,840 saying, that just like makes so much sense to me. 328 00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:28,840 Absolutely. 329 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:29,840 Yeah. 330 00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:35,240 And even with the more pitot types, like that cooked warm spice, moist rule applies to everybody. 331 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:42,040 And so I actually had a client who was extremely high in pitta and she drank ice water all 332 00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:43,040 the time. 333 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:45,200 And it was like, she was literally like, I'm sweating all the time. 334 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:46,720 I'm so hot all the time. 335 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:49,040 Like opposite of Vata, right? 336 00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:52,040 But she was drinking ice water because it was what was most comfortable for her to cool 337 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:53,280 it down. 338 00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:54,760 And it was a process, right? 339 00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:59,240 And she slowly switched and did those baby steps just to not drink ice water anymore. 340 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:02,920 And her body was able to regulate her temperature. 341 00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:07,600 And similar to, I just listened to your episode with Bridget and you guys were talking about 342 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:11,240 those little steps, little changes that you can do. 343 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:12,640 It's the same thing here. 344 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:15,720 And we're really playing the long game in our Vata. 345 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:19,240 So if you can change those three little habits, right? 346 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:21,560 Those that one habit. 347 00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:27,240 It's not going to turn around and be completely better the next day. 348 00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:28,960 It's you're playing the long game. 349 00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:33,040 So step by step, you'll notice those changes and eventually you'll look back and be like, 350 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:35,480 oh, I used to be sweaty all the time. 351 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:37,080 And now I can regulate my temperature. 352 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:38,080 It's pretty cool. 353 00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:39,080 That's pretty dang cool. 354 00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:40,080 Pretty empowering. 355 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:42,080 Like I did that. 356 00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:43,080 Yes, absolutely. 357 00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:44,080 Yeah. 358 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:49,760 And thinking about that too, the whole long play, it's something that I've been personally 359 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:53,320 experiencing as I've been for the past three months or so. 360 00:20:53,320 --> 00:21:00,760 I've been taking two different supplements each day, eight pills total for each. 361 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:05,080 One is called Myo de Cairo in Nossatil, mouthful. 362 00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:11,160 And the other one is this balance protocol by Dr. Brighton, who is the author of Beyond 363 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:12,160 the Pill. 364 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:17,200 And so, yeah, so I've been taking these for about two months now. 365 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:21,280 And they say that when you're on your third month, that's when you'll actually potentially 366 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:23,960 start seeing benefit and change. 367 00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:28,320 And so that's something I'm really experiencing is how with herbs and more natural things like 368 00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:33,000 you're saying, not prescription drugs, it's just a longer process. 369 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:34,360 But there's less side effects. 370 00:21:34,360 --> 00:21:37,080 You're doing something better for yourself derived from nature. 371 00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:40,040 You just kind of have to like be patient. 372 00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:41,040 Yes. 373 00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:42,040 Right. 374 00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:45,200 You're actually healing your body and healing is a long process. 375 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:52,320 I think are, I mean, I don't think I know our society values efficiency, over longevity. 376 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:56,680 And so we're looking for like, when we do get sick, we don't want to have that, you 377 00:21:56,680 --> 00:22:01,120 know, chicken soup and really soothe and rest and do the things that we really need. 378 00:22:01,120 --> 00:22:04,640 We want to pop like a dayquil and go back to work. 379 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:07,560 And we're just suppressing, suppressing, suppressing. 380 00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:13,000 And our Ayurveda looks at the body in the same way that it does look at the emotional 381 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:14,000 and spiritual wellness. 382 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:15,000 It's all one. 383 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:17,360 And so we're suppressing our symptoms all the time. 384 00:22:17,360 --> 00:22:20,600 We're also going to be suppressing our emotions. 385 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:25,440 And then eventually, most of us, like especially people who have entered into this wellness 386 00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:28,760 realm, like we hit our breaking point at some point where we're just like, I feel like shit 387 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:31,680 and I don't want to do it this way anymore. 388 00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:37,040 And I want to feel my feelings and I want to know my body and be in sync with nature and 389 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:43,960 do the things I need to do so that I can embody the idea of longevity and immunity and recovery. 390 00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:46,360 That's the recovery when it comes to my health. 391 00:22:46,360 --> 00:22:47,360 So good. 392 00:22:47,360 --> 00:22:48,360 So good. 393 00:22:48,360 --> 00:22:49,360 Yes. 394 00:22:49,360 --> 00:22:55,200 And thinking about hormones and hormone health, you know, the journey I've been on. 395 00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:56,880 Still have a very irregular period. 396 00:22:56,880 --> 00:23:00,440 It's been off the pill for nine months now. 397 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:05,800 And I'm just really trusting that of the long game and I'm here for it. 398 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:08,880 I wanted to do all the right things for myself. 399 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:12,960 What do you think about Ayurveda as it relates to hormone health? 400 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:18,320 What are some of the tools and rituals that you understand can help the sort of thing? 401 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:19,800 Absolutely. 402 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:23,760 So I'm lucky that my program was actually geared more towards women's health. 403 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:28,920 So we did have a deep dive on hormones and it's something that I'm very passionate about 404 00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:33,280 because I got off my hormonal birth control a year ago too. 405 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:36,800 And luckily I've had a pretty smooth transition. 406 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:42,920 But let me tell you, like knowing your body, knowing what it's telling you. 407 00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:46,320 Even my personality changing since that has happened, it's huge. 408 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:48,440 So I totally feel for you being on this journey. 409 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:49,440 It's a beautiful one. 410 00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:51,440 17 years of it. 411 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:53,440 So it's a long time. 412 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:57,040 I'm going to have, I'm going to record an episode eventually called Gaslet by Birth 413 00:23:57,040 --> 00:24:00,800 Control where I'm just going to like go into all of the things. 414 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:03,840 But yeah, the whole personality changing, it's real. 415 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:05,200 It's super real. 416 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:09,600 And so what are you, Veda says about hormonal health? 417 00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:12,280 I'll go into a few different things here. 418 00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:17,080 So and try to be concise as I can about them. 419 00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:21,120 But we have the seven tissue layers of the body and our Veda. 420 00:24:21,120 --> 00:24:28,320 The reproductive organs, male and female, are the last of the tissue layers. 421 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:33,320 And so we're talking about food, what's going to be nourished first is your rassadatu, which 422 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:35,000 is your lymphatic system. 423 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:39,400 What's going to be nourished last is the reproductive organs. 424 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:47,840 And so if you eat an apple, right, it's going to take 35 days approximately for the nourishment 425 00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:52,840 from that apple to go from your lymph, to your blood, to your muscle, to your fat, to 426 00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:57,360 your bone, down all the tissue layers into the reproductive system. 427 00:24:57,360 --> 00:25:03,240 And so with that in mind, it's really important that we are intentional about our nourishment 428 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:09,320 throughout the month because it does take time for those nutrients to reach our system. 429 00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:11,480 And so the same thing with detoxification, right? 430 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:15,960 If it's so deep in the tissue layers, and we are on those hormonal birth controls or 431 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:21,080 we do have an IUD, it's going to take longer for that to detox out. 432 00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:25,080 So diet is huge. 433 00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:28,080 Liver health is also huge when it comes to hormones. 434 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:37,080 And so the big issue with synthetic hormones is that we have too many hormones in our system. 435 00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:39,480 And some of them are ours and some of them are not. 436 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:46,400 And our poor liver has to process all of it on top of all of the toxins that are in our 437 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:49,440 air and in our water and in our food. 438 00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:53,440 So it's really taxing on the liver to be on hormonal birth control. 439 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:59,200 And so doing things like are you abated cleansing, kitri cleansing, as well as love your liver 440 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:06,720 protocol, which means getting good sleep, lowering alcohol intake, eating your leafy 441 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:12,080 greens and your detoxifying foods, all of that can be really helpful in clearing out 442 00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:16,240 the excess hormones that are definitely in all of our systems. 443 00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:17,800 Even if you're not on birth control, right? 444 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:22,440 There's so many hormone disruptors in the air and in the water. 445 00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:26,840 Like shampoo and makeup, everything we touch. 446 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:28,920 Literally everything is so crazy. 447 00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:31,520 And so that's another thing is part of that. 448 00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:38,480 Loving your liver is truly loving your hormones and so if you can check for fragrance in your 449 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:44,280 shampoos and everything and check for those hormone disruptors like BPA and aluminum and 450 00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:49,800 all those things that can be really, really helpful to allowing your body to just give 451 00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:50,800 her a break. 452 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:53,400 So she doesn't have to process so much. 453 00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:59,040 That makes me think about how something I learned recently is how when people are planning 454 00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:05,920 to have a child and it's really in their control, how they should start, both the mom and the 455 00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:12,280 dad should start really focusing in on their health three months prior to conception. 456 00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:13,280 Absolutely. 457 00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:18,480 So they say three to six months and there's so much that goes into it. 458 00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:20,560 And that's part of those tissue layers, right? 459 00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:24,080 So if we're like, I'm going to have a baby next week. 460 00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:27,160 So I'm going to do like a juice cleanse this week and then I'll be feeling good. 461 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:31,000 Well that juice cleanse has not even reached your reproductive tissues. 462 00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:35,320 So that's why when we want to go into that whole endeavor of having a child, we really 463 00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:39,400 want to prepare every single tissue layer of the body. 464 00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:44,240 And conception with Ayurveda is fascinating and kind of circling back to that idea of 465 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:46,880 property, right? 466 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:54,640 So Vastant Ladd, who's written a lot of the literature around Ayurveda, he, reading his 467 00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:58,320 book, he was talking about property and vicarity. 468 00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:01,600 And like I said before, it depends on literally what your parents are eating the night they 469 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:02,600 conceive you. 470 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:06,720 And so he's like, if the dad ate a lot of spicy food, then the baby might have a lot 471 00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:07,720 of pitas. 472 00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:12,160 So it's like down to every little thing, including like the seasons. 473 00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:17,480 And so that brings me into my next idea of how every doshha has a season. 474 00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:20,360 And this is part of Tridosic theory. 475 00:28:20,360 --> 00:28:24,560 And so right now we just entered Kaffa season, which is the season of earth and water. 476 00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:31,000 So if you are trying to conceive, Kaffa season is the season of like planting seeds and grounding 477 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:32,920 and nurturing. 478 00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:38,480 And so Kaffa season, that late winter to spring is the best time to conceive. 479 00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:39,480 Interesting. 480 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:40,480 That's fascinating. 481 00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:42,080 That's really cool. 482 00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:43,080 I'm learning so much. 483 00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:49,200 I had no idea about the seven layers that makes so much sense, especially with that fun fact 484 00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:52,000 that I just learned about the minimum three months. 485 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:59,600 Yeah, I have friends who, they, at Electric Forest last year, we were all together and 486 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:01,520 they were talking about how they wanted to have a baby. 487 00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:06,920 And now they probably wouldn't come to Electric Forest this year, 2023, because if all went 488 00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:08,600 well, they'd have a baby. 489 00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:14,800 And how they ideally would not start trying for at least three months after Electric Forest 490 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:19,720 to recover from all of the drugs. 491 00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:21,720 All of the fun things that go down. 492 00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:22,720 Oh my God. 493 00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:24,480 Yeah, so funny. 494 00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:26,240 But it's just wild. 495 00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:31,800 And just thinking about that blueprint of what is happening in the world, the seasons, the 496 00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:36,760 parents DNA and how all of that is just like a little snapshot passed on to the child and 497 00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:38,400 then it becomes who we are. 498 00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:39,400 Absolutely. 499 00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:40,400 It's so cool. 500 00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:45,320 And so when we look at the body holistically and we look at the world holistically, it 501 00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:48,040 does show that every little detail matters. 502 00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:52,560 And that fact is not to cause any panic, right? 503 00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:56,480 It's actually supposed to be liberating of like every little choice I make, if I make 504 00:29:56,480 --> 00:30:01,760 it from an empowered and embodied place, can really serve the greater good for my body 505 00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:07,320 and my life and for the earth in this moment, but also in a year, also in a month, even 506 00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:10,760 if it's just like what I have for breakfast in the morning. 507 00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:13,800 Everything's connected and everything's in divine sync. 508 00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:15,720 And are you Veda? 509 00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:20,000 That's why I love it so much is because it's not, there's no segregation in how we look 510 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:23,640 at the human experience as well as the body. 511 00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:25,640 Beautiful. 512 00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:26,640 Thank you so much. 513 00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:28,760 I've learned so much today. 514 00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:31,920 So many tools to take away already. 515 00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:36,360 And I'm wondering how our listeners can connect with you. 516 00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:37,520 Absolutely. 517 00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:42,520 So on Instagram, my handle is havehealingarts.co. 518 00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:45,880 My website's similar, it's havehealingarts.com. 519 00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:48,240 So you can reach out through either of those platforms. 520 00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:54,480 I also have workshops coming up where we do way more of a deep dive into Tridosic theory 521 00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:57,680 and how this can support your everyday living. 522 00:30:57,680 --> 00:30:58,920 So keep an eye out for those. 523 00:30:58,920 --> 00:30:59,960 That's a great way to connect. 524 00:30:59,960 --> 00:31:05,760 I also teach yoga, nurture, so you can find me there up until I moved to Portland in a 525 00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:07,760 couple of months. 526 00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:08,760 Yay! 527 00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:10,200 Well, thank you so much. 528 00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:14,080 This was so much fun and we'll put all of your links and everything in the description 529 00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:16,720 for this podcast. 530 00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:17,720 But I appreciate you. 531 00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:19,480 Yes, thank you so much for having me. 532 00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:23,200 I hope you guys learned a little bit about Arya Veda and there's so much more. 533 00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:25,760 So definitely check out my website. 534 00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:29,560 Also I have a whole blog with all of these things on it and I keep adding to it. 535 00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:31,520 So if you want to geek out, I'm your girl. 536 00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:32,520 Mm-hmm. 537 00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:33,520 Thank you so much, Kat. 538 00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:34,520 So much goodness, of course. 539 00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:43,120 We'll see you all next time.