Hello, everybody, and welcome to a new episode of the Awaken Together podcast. I'm Kat, and
today I'm joined by Willow Bradner, who identifies as the accidental psychic.
I'm so excited to have you here, Willow. We met through Nurture, which is where I work,
and you've held plenty of events, but I'm really excited just to share all of your work and what
you do, who you are with our community. I think they're all going to be really excited to learn
from you. Can you please just start by telling us a little bit more about your work, what you do,
why we're here? Awesome. Thank you. Well, first and foremost, thanks for having me,
and for all those listening. Thanks for listening. I call myself an accidental psychic,
and I always say that because it's my opinion that no one should... It should be an accident.
You know what I mean? I just don't think that you wake up one day and you're like,
I think I'm going to grow up and be a psychic medium. I think you kind of fall into this and
stumble into this. I was, for me, in my 13th year as a hairdresser when I started to notice that
people were calling me on the weekend and coming to my house when I wasn't doing their hair.
I know it sounds like such a dumb thing to assume that people loved me so much that they would come
to me on the weekend and call me when they weren't getting their hair done, that they would come and
ask advice from me. At the time, I literally believed that I was just the smart friend that they needed,
and it never occurred to me that I was handing out information that came from somewhere bigger
or brighter. It also never occurred to me that they should have called their friends,
not their hairdresser. You know what I mean? Around that 13th year is also when I got married.
On our wedding night, after everybody had left the party, after copious amounts of alcohol had
been consumed, it was my parents left at the party and my sweet brand new husband.
We were just kind of sitting around a campfire regaling in our love, regaling in the day,
and my body took a shift and my voice changed octave a little bit, and my dad looked up at me and was
like, I think you're handling my father. Now, I had never met my grandfather. He was not, he had
died when my dad was 12, so I wouldn't know the vibration at all. Justice, as my dad pointed out
that it sounded like his dad channeling through me, my husband's late mother also tried to come
through. And my poor sweet husband, who by the way did not sign up for girl who speaks to dead
people, stood up and was like, you know what? I think we need to call the night. I think it's
time for bed. And instead of consummating my marriage that night, I stayed up and talked to
dead people with my parents and got to know my late grandfather who I had never met. And we woke up,
of course, the next day with like hangovers and thinking, gosh, was that some random party trick?
Like what was that? Assuming it would never happen again. But for me, it was like every time I drank
after that, everybody's dead people would show up. And it would be like my best friend Holly's
grandmother comes through and I'm sitting across from my best friend Holly and I'm like,
did your grandmother grow cucumbers? And Holly looks at me and goes, ah, yeah,
we would get to grandma's house and we would jump out of the car and run straight to her garden and
pick fresh cucumbers out and just like eat them off the vine. So wild. And so I have in the
formative years learned how to manage this. I don't drink in psychic anymore. That's a real clear
boundary that I have. And I did eventually go and get trained when I realized that this thing was
not going to go away. Oh my gosh. That's the accident of it all. Yeah, that makes total sense
why it's accidental. It just kind of seems like it was your calling in a way just on like of all
nights, your wedding night. That's so wild. Talk about the portal, the inspirational night in your
life. But what do you think it was now? I'm curious about how it started out. It sounds like every
time you drank, what do you think it was about alcohol and just changing your frequency that way?
So two things. One is something that I noticed in a lot of people. Some of our egos are really
good at their job. And our egos are really just giant cock blocks. They're giant like get in the
way of what is true for us. They want to control, they want to manipulate, they want to just stand
in the way of our vibes of our intuition. And alcohol obviously lowered my egos inhibitions.
It lowered my egos guard and defense mechanism. And now that I have hindsight being 2020, I can
tell you that every time I drank alcohol, whether it wasn't always the dead people that showed up,
but anytime I would drink alcohol, I would tell people like, oh, you're going to change your job
or oh, your boyfriend's around the corner or, you know, some other fascinating fact that I
should not have known about them. So it's like I had always been accidentally doing this, but the
alcohol removed that filter. And so having to train myself to lower my ego was the differential.
Being able to lower my manipulation, my control. And really what is manipulation and control but
fear? Manipulation and control is just our contrived energy of trying to control and manipulate
what's around us is also the antithesis of trust. So I was always out of trust, always in fear. And
for me, becoming a psychic wasn't about learning how to do this magic trick. It was learning how to
trust myself, the universe at large, and learning to let go of my egos need to manipulate everything.
That's beautiful. I've heard that. I've been studying up on psychic mediumship ever since
I attended one of your events. I think it was just like a week and a half ago now.
And it was incredible. And I'll share more about that in a sec. But something that really stuck
with me that I learned from this book I'm listening to called Choosing to be a Medium by Sharon Farber,
or sorry, sorry, I think it's Choosing to be, yeah, Choosing to be a Medium, that's it.
On Audible, she says that a surrender is a really, really big part of being able to channel and
receive and give these messages. And I think that's really an alignment with what you just shared.
Yes. It's so much about like, I'm working actually with a gal who's just coming out as a medium right
now. And I'm trying to get her on my team because I can't see as many clients as the clients want
to see me right now. And I want it to be an available thing. I really do think that the medium
aspect, which for the listeners, the difference between a psychic and a medium is simple.
A psychic is one that is communicating solely with your guides and your angels,
and is able to both see your past, your present and your future. So we have that availability.
Now, the future is ever changing based on your decisions. And it is not set in stone. So a lot
of people will be like, that psychic got it wrong. No, that psychic saw you going to the right.
And then when you left that reading, you went to the left. Whatever was set in that reading was
actually catalytic to get you to move in a different direction or in the direction that was best for
you. So psychics have that power or that availability to get the guides and angels channeling through
them. A medium is such that we communicate with your late loved ones, those who have crossed over
onto the other side. I am both. So I am both communicating with angels and guides simultaneously
also able to communicate with your loved ones on the other side to communicate with your lost
loved ones. In my opinion, the challenge is I feel your grief. I feel your desire to communicate
with that person on the other side. And I feel sometimes their shame or their desire to be
here also and having to get both of your emotions out of the way. And then my desire to not let you
down my ego's desire to not let you down is my cock block. Wow. That sounds really hard. I have to
remove my desire to make sure that you are communicated with by your people out of the
way so that I can communicate. And I think that has been it took me from my wedding day.
It has taken me almost eight years to fully embrace the mediumship. Wow. That's a journey.
That's what the getting out of my own way because having been a hairdresser, my entire
energetic design, my entire physicality is really built in service. I've never worked in any other
career other than some service driven business, whether it was serving coffee, whether it was
doing hair and now even of this. And from the service perspective, it's how might I serve you?
How might I make you happy? In hair, people bring you a picture, you cut in color to their desired
effect and you do your very best. And if they don't like it, they're allowed to come back and say,
you know, this hair right here and this hair right here, don't match. Can you fix that?
In psychic medium, I can't change what comes out to make it so that you're happy.
The messages are purely designed specifically to your need, whether you like the message or not.
Having to be okay that you're not okay with the message that comes out has been a huge challenge.
Oh my gosh, I can only imagine because I'm sure people go to you into these evenings
with a purpose, with whether it's looking to connect with someone or looking for clarity.
And I'm sure sometimes clarity is not what's actually given, but it's maybe more questions.
It is more questions. Sometimes it's a lot more questions. You asked a really interesting question
about the wine and wood that you came to, which was how do I get more clarity and guidance from
my people upstairs? And one of the answers I often get, which was not your answer,
but I'll share the answer that I most often get, is your guides and angels are always
communicating with you. You just don't like the answer.
Yeah. Again, our ego is designed to manipulate and control. And our ego is like, no, I want
to make this much money. I had a gal the other day who was like, I want to have babies by the time
I'm 25 and be married. And I was like, so in essence, what you say when you say you want to
have babies and be married by 25 is I'll take whatever piece of trash is here because I have a
timeline. And I said, what if you said I want to meet the match that's for me at the time that the
universe aligns us and we will have children then if that is also what is of our highest good.
A completely different energy. Totally different energy.
Totally different energy. Not like aligning yourself to have to be divorced minutes after
having children or going through hard earth things because you're trying to juxtapose your
manipulation in. Rather, you're like, oh, I'm open to and that goes back to that surrender word. I'm
open to what happens in the timeframe that is an alignment for me. That reminds me of a quote.
It's like, tell God that you have a plan and don't laugh. So yeah, if you want to make God laugh,
make a plan. Yeah, exactly. Okay, that's cute. That's funny. But here's what's actually going to go down.
I'm going to pull the carpet out from underneath you. This is going to be hilarious.
I'm sure there's a lot of laughter upstairs. Oh, man. Yes. So I'd love to share a little bit more
about, you know, like your group readings, because that's how I experienced you for the first time.
And I know it's such a fun evening too, because you're also hilarious. You're also just such an
amazing performer in holding the space and making sure that it's entertaining for everybody being
there. Because I think within each reading that you give, we can also see parts of ourselves,
even though we're not the one having the spotlight in that moment. It just makes me kind of think
about all of these different things in my life that have transpired, seemingly in ways that I
didn't even think about, but they just happen how they're supposed to. So can you share about
more of your group events? I know it's been wine and woo, but I think that's changing
and where people might be able to find you if they're local. Yes. So I have my last Denver wine
and woo April 5th, I believe is the date. You can go to my website to get information about that
willowbrotner.com. But the wine and woo, which is now being rebranded as the wild and woo,
because so many people are choosing to be alcohol free. And it was being asked of me from multiple
directions to please remove the word wine. So I just, and I'm totally up for however you guys
want to come to this. If you want to drink, I'm great for it. But if you want to be more in the
choosing of sobriety or choosing to be alcohol free, that's also great. So for me, the group thing
was this, I was a stand up comic and an actress before I was a hairdresser before I became this
weird psychic thing. So for me, the entertainment is supernatural. And it's really easy to get
into that. And I had seen psychic mediums do stage readings before. And it was always so
heavy and dark and like, really energetic and people would leave and they wouldn't be necessarily
like uplifted, they would be like, still in the tears of the other people that had had come before
them. And for me, it was just natural that I want to make people laugh anyways. And so I started
thinking, can I be a stand up comic with a side of psychic? Or can I be a psychic with a side of
stand up comedy? And so those two really started to combine. And what I love about that, and I heard
from a comic some time ago was that comedy is the essence of bringing people to the brink of tear,
bringing people to that brink of holding their breath and going in emotionally with you and then
dropping a fart joke kind of thing. And that it's actually that tension and that release that makes
people laugh. And I thought, what a beautiful concept because as well, I don't want anybody
leaving carrying other people's energy and laughter breaks that hard energy. Laughter actually is the
cleansing juice that one needs when we are energetically intertwined. It's that laughter that
transitions us from one person's reading to the next person's reading. And it helps to break
that cycle of energy between each other. When I'm doing a big group, I also am looking at that
entertainment perspective of how do I get everybody captivated and everybody's reading and not make
it feel like, I want my turn, I want my turn, I want my turn. Yeah, you did that so well. Yeah.
And you shared something, you reminded me, you shared something during, it was Valentine's Day,
so a lot of the sharing were about love. And it was perfect because my friend who attended had just
gone through a breakup and it was just so, such great timing. But something that you shared that
really stuck with me that I also used as my theme for my yoga classes for the past week was that
you can care, caring is beautiful, but you don't have to carry. Yes. Care, but you don't have to
carry. And I just love that because it gives so much permission just to like show up. I think the
whole like, I don't give a fuck culture, like that's out. And like, accepting that we care,
we care about so many things, and that's a beautiful part of life, but that we don't have to
keep that emotional baggage on our shoulders and let us weigh us down into the rest of our lives.
I think the empath message needs to be louder in that vibration. And I think that I have no fucks
to give thing is like a really great idea, but it frankly, it's untrue. It's so super duper untrue.
And I think the people screaming it at the top of their lungs, like, I have no fucks left to give,
I'm like, you are the biggest carer in the whole wide world. And you're trying to cut your cords,
and you don't know how to cut those energetic cords or all the cares that you do have. So it's like
the carrying, I think what we do with and for our friends with and for our family is we want to
unburden. We want to create freedom for our friends and our family. And I think that that's why we
end up carrying. But what we don't understand is that just us carrying their burden doesn't unburden
them. Right. And I think that's the part that we're not understanding. And then we end up in our
desire to unburden for people, we end up putting on them. We end up telling them what they should
do based on our own projection of what works for us, but that is not going to work for them.
And I'm going to put it in this way, I don't love to share this story that much, but I'll share it for
you guys is when so I had cancer in 2021. Greatest gift for me. I got lucky. I know that not everybody's
going to get lucky. But my favorite friend was a yogi friend of mine. And she was not particularly
close to me, we're not tight friends. But she came to my house I had in my camp. And she was
not comfortable with me. We're not tight friends. But she came to my house I had in my cancer journey,
50 people every day come pick me up and drive me to treatment. I had treatment five days a week.
So somebody would come to my house and drive me to treatment a different person every day,
somebody would come and walk me every day so that I would not get stagnant on my couch or in my
vibes. And somebody would cook for me every single day. And I just invited all these people into this.
It was uncomfortable. What I noticed was the discomfort in people wanting me to be happy,
wanting me to feel good. And this one friend that I'm bringing into this conversation sat with me
and cried. And I thought the power of being okay to feel with my vibes, not take away my vibes,
not try to transition my vibes, not try to unburden my vibes, but trying to just or just allowing
me to be with it and her allowing herself to be in that with me. That was magical. And that has
served me in so many ways that I didn't realize that ability to be in grief with somebody, that
ability to be in hard with somebody without needing again, we go back to that manipulation word,
without needing to manipulate or control. Oh, that's beautiful. That actually unburdened me
the most. Yeah. And she didn't carry it with her. She was in it with me. Does that make sense?
It sure does. And it takes someone who's really comfortable with themselves and comfortable
with all of their emotions, right? It takes someone who's really done a lot of work on themselves
to be able to do that. And I think that's so beautiful. I'm so glad you were able to have that.
It was magical. And I just I would wish for anybody to try this. And again, it will be a try
initially until you're comfortable feeling other people's feelings. But I think when we feel other
people's feelings, we don't then carry it. If we allow ourselves to be in their vibration, we won't
then take it home with us. Exactly. Then it kind of just moves through you, right? Let go of it.
Which is very somatic therapy, if you know, let it flow through you.
Well, thanks for sharing that story. I think that's a beautiful example of just like
the depths, right? The nuances of it. The nuances of it. Exactly. Having to like,
having to like, I just this image came to my head of like, seeing somebody down in a ditch,
and it's the difference of like throwing a rope down to them, or actually like climbing down with
them, being with them, and then getting out together. Being able to hold that with someone I
think is so special. Yes. Yes. Okay, so thinking about how like your gifts with mediumship,
this is spiritual awakening podcast, we have a lot of like, witchy people, a lot of people who
are empaths, and a lot of people who I think are very interested in this work. And I'm curious,
I've been learning about how there are different types of mediums. And actually, one thing that I
thought of when you were sharing earlier is how all mediums are psychic, but not all psychics are
mediums. Yes. Like, oh, that's an interesting way to think of it. So when you were sharing the
difference, I'm like, yes, okay, that sinks in a little bit deeper. But I'm curious, how do you
receive messages? That's a really good question. So the guides and angels speak to me through,
so there's all the different clary, so the clary audience, the Clara Boyant, the Clara Sentient,
and then the Clara Sentient, which you and I have a little bit. And I have more of the Clara
Cognizant, which is the combination. It's not special. I just want to be clear. Like, again,
I hate hierarchy and spiritualism. I think it's super dumb. But Clara Cognizant, I want to say
it's just basically like, you're a full combo, like you understood how to use all your claries
together. So some people make Clara Cognizant sound like it's some sort of extra super duper
power in this, but it's really just, you know, how to quickly combine all the messages into one
single spot. So it feels like it's being dropped in. So for me, it's not that I don't see or hear or
sense or smell. It's like I get them all at once. And so the messages that I derived from the guides
and angels are really, they feel like they're dropped in. So I can, for example, if somebody says,
I'm looking for my guy, this is just an example from a wine and wood the other day, somebody asked
where her dude was and if he was ever coming and I started describing him and I said, but I want
to be clear, he doesn't live here. And I hope you're open to move. I think he's in California.
And she looks up and goes, uh-huh. So I'm moving to California in one week. Oh my God. Yeah. So,
but I get that information delivered in that way. So I'm seeing, sensing, feeling this gentleman
who's coming on her behalf. I see and sense what kind of career he has. And then I hear very
distinctly that he is not here. He's in California. And so then I get all those pieces of information.
And when I'm speaking to your loved ones, your loved ones come in because I was a hairdresser.
Your loved ones always show their hair first to me. So I start describing and I just learned
this word the other day. Apparently I'm an evidentiary, evidentiary. I don't know how to say the word
psychic. So I give evidence to prove that I have your person in. So when you're doing the medium
ship, if you have a medium who's like, yes, I've got Joe from the other side and he says blankety
blank, but they haven't provided evidence that it's in fact your person. I would be wary of that medium.
Yeah. I can see that. He wants to know that they're really bringing in your person. And occasionally
I'll have people that are like, nope, that's not my person. And I'm like, great. Let's wait until
we get all the energy in. I'm not interested in bringing in just some wonky energy that might
feel like Joe. I want Joe in. So I would ask just Joe have like little to no hair here,
but he might have hair around his side. Did Joe dress this way? Does Joe's vibration feel like
this? Did Joe have books? Did he have a lazy boy chair that he always sat in? And I'll add all this
evidence in. And once we're clear that I have your Joe in, then the reading really does commence.
I really respect that. And I can see that being so much more impactful and just kind of a
allows the person's ego to go aside, right? Cause it's like you kind of provided proof to them
that this is that person. Right. One of the new things that's happening with the loved ones on
the other side that I'm obsessed with and it's new. And I think it's just like the more I develop,
the more I trust, the more I understand that I can't like every day I do, anytime I go into a
wine and we were a wild and will I'm like, will your people show up? Will my guides and angels
show up? Well, I mean, I'm always nervous and I'm always a wreck and I'm always scared every
single time that I do it. I'm not some special unique person that doesn't have an ego. Like I
still am nervous and a wreck every time. And I pray to God that they show up because again,
my ego is, I don't want to let you down. I do not want to let the people who are paying me down.
And I want to be that conduit. I want to be that vibration for you guys. So I'm scared always that
it's not going to work. But one of the things that is working that is so cool is they're starting
to show me who they're with on the other side. So they'll immediately say like I'm with my brother.
And sometimes the brother is in essence brother from another mother, but they'll describe who
they're with even. Sometimes I'll be like, yes, and I'm with your mom or yes, I'm with my sister.
And it's so cool. They always show me if you can't see my arm is like linked. So they'll show me who
they're linked to on the other side and who they're hand in hand with. And that is so freaking cool.
Like that's a new development that just recently has happened that they're starting to point out
who they're hanging out with. That is so cool. And that did happen in the wine and wool that I
was in with you. And I remember it wasn't the person like the person wasn't linked. It was
someone's dad and she was expecting it to be her mom. And you said like, no, it's his brother.
And kind of reason with her of like why it wasn't her mom and it really landed with her. So I think
that expectation again, just putting that all aside and being more open to understand like
what's true and what's real and why it's that way. Well, and then something that also keeps being asked
that I don't know if again, I don't know. I grew up in a family that doesn't care that much. We don't
have a whole lot of like lineage, like my parents don't care about the lineage. They don't care about
their grandparents. They don't care about the family that we came from. There's nothing precious
about the human experience is essentially how I was raised. And so I get a lot of people asking
it's like the grandparents care about the grandkids if they're like hanging out looking after the
grandkids. And I keep asking that question and it doesn't feel relevant to me that they're like
up there just spending all their time hanging out looking after us. I think we want them to.
And I think we want them to love, care and respect us the way that we miss them. And I'm not positive
that that, at least in my experience, I would love to be wrong about this. But in my experience, I
don't see them. It's not that they don't love us or care about us, but I don't see them like every
day like with binoculars looking down at us like, she needs to go right, you know, we're with the
grandkids every second of every day. Like they're busy upstairs doing other things too. Like they
are meeting their other soul tribe upstairs too. I think that part is where the lack of understanding
comes because I think from what I've gathered and I mean, what I've even thought is like, oh,
after life, there's nothing else to do but look down on earth and see everybody who you love
and what they're doing in life like it's some sad like that. And I think we miss them so much
in our grief that we are very hopeful that that is all that they are doing is caring about us.
Right. But there is an evolution. The way that I see life and death is that death is actually a
graduation. And I know that sounds really tragic for some to believe that possibly we would graduate
into a different energetic, but we are leaving the skin suit and we are moving up words, if you will,
if you will, and into an energetic vibration that is different than human human is a this is school
as I'm being told and taught is like this is just it's like where we learn how to do things.
It's like a video game where we're learning how to do stuff down here. And then up there,
it's a lot more freed and a little bit lighter energies. And sometimes we are hanging out with
those who have crossed over as well. Sometimes we're immediately incarnating into one of your
grandkids or one of your other people. Sometimes we're even graduating beyond that and learning
different powers and energies. A lot of times when I'm communicating with those on the other side,
I'm being given a hologram. Wow. And it's just their energetic message that's left behind.
Oh, my gosh, I feel like this will have to be a whole other podcast.
So what happens after death, just sharing theories and concepts and things.
And that's all it is. It's all theory. We're not dead. So we're just getting fragments of what's
to come. And I think, I think if I can say anything, our desire to understand the unknown
of what's coming for us and what is coming next in life, I think that is both crippling.
And if we can, again, move our ego past the need to know what happens when we die or what happens
tomorrow, we will have the freedom and abundance that we're looking for that potential. But I'm
really curious. This is something that has been showing up for me. The more I read about history,
the more that I understand how short our lifetime span is really here and that we are
and that we are incarnated and that we do come back again. The less I care about this timeframe,
and I don't mean that in a negative way. I actually mean it in a so I can fail,
so I can play out so that I can go big or go home so that I can not worry about getting it
perfect but just getting it done at all. It's been expanding my ability to use the potential in me.
All of us are gifted this huge amount of energy. If you imagine potential being your energetic
battery in your body, and that all of us are using 10% approximately of the energetic battery that
were gifted with a few people really using and compelled to use that 90% of their battery.
If you could turn up the volume and not be so afraid, if you could trust in yourself and trust
in your potential and trust that you're here for a really short period and you don't need to worry
about the unknown and just go for it. Powerful. How much work could you do?
It's just limitless then. I love that way of thinking. It reminds me of just thinking about
how what is real? I think all of our problems and these things are responsibilities and life.
Expectations get so big, but if we just kind of zoom out and realize that we're on this floating
rock in the middle of space, then it's just also that same way of thinking like, okay, we're back.
Yes, and if we can just move into, and I know that this framework is so trite to say this, but
like if we could move into the framework that we are here for just a minute and a blip and it's
really about having a good time, it's not about making babies necessarily. It's not about finding
love necessarily. It's not about your career necessarily. These are all again the ego's construct.
It's all society's construct. You're to get here and figure out what you want to be when you grow up
and make enough money so you can retire someday and find somebody that you want to make out with
and have babies with someday. Like, holy cow, just those five things, just those five things
stand in the way of self-actualization a lot of times. Yeah, because if we were just approaching
life, what can I do right now to make me happy? Yeah, what will today bring me? And if I should
meet somebody that I'm willing to make out with for a long period of time, great, then that's how
that will go. Exactly. If I have enough money in my bank account to pay for the roof over my head,
wonderful. Right. And if one day that person you want to make out with anymore, you don't want to
make out with anymore, then this is the end of that chapter and it wasn't a mistake. It was just
graduation day. Graduation into the next chapter and you learn so much, but oh, great, great
points. I love this so much. Now to transition into maybe a darker side, I'm curious if you
believe that there are also dark or evil spirits because I think that a lot of people might be
afraid of mediumship because of the potentiality that there are, that there's evil out there and
that it could attach to them. So I'm curious for your thoughts on that. Okay, this is a hard,
deep question, guys. And this is just how I have depicted it all of my life. So when I first started
in this business, when I first was getting trained, the first person that I worked with
was a lint roller for stuck in yuck energy. He was very empathic. He loved dark energy and I would
leave his energy quote unquote healing sessions with bugs on me. So it's almost like he bugged me.
I do believe that there is, there are darker energetic bugs. And there are some people who are
more likely to get those bugs. So let me just explain the bugs. I just call them bugs because
I don't want to attach any further information onto them. Okay, so I want to be really clear
with you guys that I'm only attaching like light vibration energy around it because I want you to
just think of it as just bedbugs, okay, and they can be eradicated very easily. If you are somebody
who suffers struggles with depression bipolar disorder anxiety, I'm not saying that you are
going to inevitably attracted, but you are more likely to the darker vibrations can only attach
to people who can meet them at those vibrational levels. If you are somebody who is seeking treatment
for depression bipolar disorder or anxiety, you will less likely be picking up these bugs. Okay,
little things can help to also transform transition, transmute your vibes so that you are less likely
to pick up these bugs. Number one, always put a sponge, not a scrubby brunt sponge, but like a soft
sponge in your bra. I like to cut them in heart shapes and I put them in my bra and I say, okay,
you are here to simply pick up all the bad vibes and bad juju so that I'm not the lint roller. So
I just make it a habit. I put it in, I washed it out at night. Once it's dry, I put it in, I have
a couple so that I'm never without. The other thing is some people really are great with crystals.
They love the crystals. Choose a couple crystals that are high by being stick those in your purse
or pocket. And again, say to those crystals, you're here to pick up the bugs so that I don't have to.
Number three is if you are somebody who like smells, choose a smell, choose a doTERRA, choose a
young living, I don't give a fuck which, you know, smell is your smell. Choose something that has
high vibration and put that on and that will be your shield for the day so that you don't pick
up other people's vibes. Last and number four thing to do if you are somebody who loves to pick
up bugs, then you would think that you might be a lint roller stuck in your vibes. Please take a
salt bath at the end of your day and or salt scrub if you only have a shower or do sugar scrub or
salt scrub and make a point of making noise, getting one of those song bowls or something of that and
just gonging yourself every day when you get home from work. Okay, those are going to clear out the
bugs. Evil, I'm not into, but we do know that there are sociopaths. We do know, but the sociopathic
brain is such a minute minute group of people, but there are energetic kidnappers and those are the
dark, vibey energies. And again, we noticed the energetic kidnapper more in the bipolar and the
addict brain, the addict brain is also just a kidnapper that got into somebody's vibration and
stole part of who they were ultimately. Again, we can gong that out, we can work with
pharmaceutical people like people who are psychiatrists to help change our vibrations. Okay, I don't
believe totally in the woo that you could just eat your way out of this. I don't believe totally in
the woo that you could just mind set your way out of this. If you have cracks that need filling up,
if your serotonin levels do not excrete chemicals in a righteous way, and there is a down date,
that is the day that you can pick up energetic bugs. I'm a medium that does not luckily suffer from
or have experienced low vibration. So I don't have mental health disorder. And I'm not saying that
that's batter room for anybody. It just happens that I am so fucking puppies and rainbows.
It's really unlikely that an energetic bug is going to get on me. Unless somebody plants one on me.
Right. So I'm not passing them on. Yes. Yes. Thank you for sharing all of that. I think,
especially those four tips, those are things that shouldn't be like the first thing that our audience
is hearing this too. So hopefully it just helps. It's like a nice reminder to further integrate
and plant those roots deep in when clearing your space, when cleansing your body. I love the idea
of a heart sponging your bra. Try that. That's awesome. Yeah. Again, it's right. And those who
are super deeply empathic, those are small tips. But I really want to say if you're deeply empathic,
you generally, and I am generalizing here and I know somebody might at me, but generally,
if you're highly empathic, you are also somebody who is likely suffering with mental health. And
I say suffer. You don't have to suffer. We do not have to suffer. And I am a big proponent. And I
only learned this after cancer because I was all organic mama for years until I still got cancer,
even though my energy was clear, even though I ate all the organics, I still got the cancer. And so
what I have gathered from my experience with major medical is God made that too, by the way. The
universe and spiritual made pharmaceuticals, by the way. So you go get yourself some SSRIs and help
yourselves feel better today. I love it. Great message. No shame. No guilt. They're here. I am so
over the manifestation of illness. I'm so over now, like you can eat yourself out of this. I do
believe that health is going to help. I do believe that herbs and taking care of your body will help.
But God also, universe, source, whatever you want to call it, brought us doctors, brought us medicine,
brought us technology. So we don't have to suffer. Right. And we're living here in this time for a
reason with all of that. We used to die if we got an infection people. Right. And so we're all like,
oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, I'm not getting cancer. Like I got so shamed in cancer by my own people
because I went the way of traditional medicine because I have a daughter, by the way, because
my sister-in-law died because she went the natural way and she didn't make it because she refused to
do cancer treatment. She's dead. I had seen it up close and personal. I was like, I have a daughter
I intend to be here for. I intend to be here. And I know it's going to cause some stuff in my body,
but I'm going full chemo, full radiation. I'm doing it. And I had people quit me as like they were
like, you manifested this, you're doing it. I don't believe that you're going the chemical route. And
I'm like, we celebrate the universe, but now we're not celebrating doctors. We're not celebrating
science. We're not celebrating technology. Oh my gosh, guys, we have to have it all. It's all here
on purpose. Marry them both. I do acupuncture. I do health food and I do chemo and radiation.
I'm so with you. I believe in everything you're saying. And I'm so glad you're sharing that. And
I'm so sorry that you had to deal with all the new sayers and the hitters and just the ego people.
I just think it matters that we say that part out loud. Yes, I do think a lot of people think that,
you know, we have to go this one route, especially if we're in this awakened spiritual
space is that somehow we have to be all natural. And it's like, no, that's where we began, but we
also have calibrated and added on to all of that with these other magical things. Exactly. Our
life expectancy has grown for a reason, thanks to these things. So let's use them. They're here for
us. Oh my gosh. Amazing. So thinking about our audience and how I have a sense that people
listening to this are going to be really excited about mediumship. Also, just I think that they're
going to be resonating with a lot of what you're saying, even some people might be like, Oh, yeah,
when I drink, I experienced similar things. So I'm curious what your advice might be for anybody
who's listening, who might be interested in kind of deepening or growing or developing in this way
of mediumship. Yeah. Go for it is what I say. I think more is more. So I think all of us, if we
have the availability, if we have the desire to grow the ability, absolutely, please do. The big
thing that I would say is back to the question that you asked about, are there darker energies in the
medium or even in the psychic? When choosing somebody to work with, please do choose the channel,
aka the person that vibrates at your level. If you are somebody who's sensitive to those darker
vibrations, find somebody who's going to train you at the higher light or vibration that might feel
better to you. You always want to find that psychic or that medium that comes from the light. And
there are those who come from the dark who appreciate like my first guy who trained me was
very invested in the dark. I had to find people who are of the light to train me after him.
I do have a course in class. If anybody's interested, I'm happy to. It lives in perpetuity. It lives on
my website. I don't tout it or sell it per se like I used to, but it is there for anybody who is
interested in learning more and developing their abilities more. Wonderful. Thank you so much for
sharing that. I think that will go really far just for you to check out, including myself. Now I'm
there is a free masterclass on my website as well that is you can just go log into Willa Bradner.com
and it's a free, I believe there's like four classes, like four little classes on it, but it'll teach you
how to understand your intuition and your ego so that even that will help you develop your
intuition a lot more and in a more generous manner. That's huge, right? That's huge for so many things
that we talk about in life. Wonderful. And my last question is, are you picking anything up for me?
Oh, that's so sweet. Let me look. Do I have your permission? You sure do. I'm so curious. I was kind
of thinking about it all morning of just what might naturally come to you. My guides might want me to hear today.
Are you making out? Because the first thing I hear is love for you. Oh, yeah. I'm in a really good place right now with my husband.
Yeah. To me, it just feels like love is where you're settled and settling in your spirit.
For you, when you're the most grounded is, I don't know if you guys sit with each other on the couch,
like into each other, but that's how they're putting it, is if you're reading, it's really a sort of a snuggle read situation,
but that's what really grounds you out is that rooted place in love for you helps you to get more inspired and more into your own intuition
is when you are in that space of love and groundedness.
100% resonate with that. Just kidding. We've been snuggling since 2011.
I love it. Well, not again for those of us who are channeling more than others, we have to have our tether to the earth.
When we're in spiritual space, I think that's the other aspect is tethering to the ground,
is finding that grounded space to help us open up to our psychic or our intuition.
If we don't have ground and we just go into outer space, we don't make sense.
Yeah, we're not able to be a bridge or ladder for the people on earth if we're only living in outer space.
And so oftentimes we choose partners who are tethers who are more of the grounded variety so that we can reach further higher faster.
I love that. I also want to say that it feels to me like your business,
and I understand that you're currently working in the sales space for the nurture,
but it does feel like your business is wanting desperately for you to expand it.
It is asking for you to make time for it in a way that you might not have.
And if you can do sales for other people, then it's time for you to turn the sales on for yourself and your business
and stop being shy to it and start listening to it in the way that it's asking you to hear it.
And it doesn't feel like the coach word feels right for you. It feels more like
partner for people to be riding the path with them.
And again, I'm going to go back to something that I said to you in the Whiten Woo,
which is I do believe, especially once you get the sniffer situation worked out,
I do believe that you are going to end up more in the medical medium side of things.
And I'd really love to see you in pursuit of understanding more in the nature holistic path of your psychic abilities.
I'm so excited. I've been researching so much. And just to fill in our listeners,
I feel like this is important to share. But in my group reading with Willow last week,
she said that my guides were pointing to my nose and how that meant that I have this
Claire sentience. But with the sense, I think it's Claire all. I forget the word for it.
It's a funny word that it is between the two of them. Yeah.
But that I would be able to sniff out illness in people. And so I've done so much research on that.
And three days later, I went to the dentist and I had a 360 X ray, which they do once a year.
And they found that I have a pretty large cyst in my sinus cavity. And so that I message Willow
right after I was like, how did my guides come like bring you this message of my nose?
And you just shared how they were just pointing to my nose. Okay, well, here's what happened.
So at that too, I had to admit that maybe I had misread it because she was talking more about her
career in the health coachy space and into that to the more holistic space. And I hear
anytime they point to the nose, especially when I'm dealing with somebody who is really interested
in health and wellness, that it is that they're able to smell. And I curiously wonder if it was
part of you that as well was but didn't know how to read it. And the cyst is going to help clear
that out so that you can. That's what I'm hoping for. That's what I'm really like holding on to
right now. I'm really excited to see what this I mean, again, excited is excited, scared is how I
would put it. Because I want to make sure that it's a healthy situation that they're able to easily
remove for you and that it's not going to cause greater harm, obviously. But I'll be really
excited to see how that transforms and transitions your ability to take in information for other
people as well. You too. Thank you. I will definitely keep you posted and everything you
shared today already has my gears turning and is in super alignment with a couple ideas they've had
for my business and just the ways that I want to take it forward. So just another little boost
that I'm going to write that. Yes, you are. Yes, you are. Absolutely. And don't hesitate to be
writing if you're not writing daily blogs. If you're not in those blogs will eventually become
the book. So just know that you don't have to sit down and write a book. You just have to write
those blogs whenever you are inspired and you write it just imagine it's a chapter. Okay.
I love it. Thank you so much for having me. Thank you so much, Willow. This has been such a joy
and I want to hear from your words. How can our listeners connect with you?
I'm always on the Facebook and the Instagram and the TikTok. I'm TikTok obsessed. If you just
want to see me in comedy, it's more on the TikTok. So you guys can always join me and
it's again Willow Bradner. So just join me that way and my website's named after me because
I was raised in a business era where everything's named after us. It's just easy that way. I promise
I'm not a narcissist. At least I hope not. God forbid. Let me know if I am. I have two fears.
Halitosis and narcissism. You're hilarious. Oh, well, thank you. I will also link your website
and all your socials in the description for this podcast. But so much gratitude for you. Thank you.
Thank you. Also, thanks so much. I'll talk to you soon.