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Hello, everybody, and welcome to a new episode of the Awaken Together podcast. I'm Kat, and

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today I'm joined by Willow Bradner, who identifies as the accidental psychic.

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I'm so excited to have you here, Willow. We met through Nurture, which is where I work,

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and you've held plenty of events, but I'm really excited just to share all of your work and what

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you do, who you are with our community. I think they're all going to be really excited to learn

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from you. Can you please just start by telling us a little bit more about your work, what you do,

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why we're here? Awesome. Thank you. Well, first and foremost, thanks for having me,

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and for all those listening. Thanks for listening. I call myself an accidental psychic,

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and I always say that because it's my opinion that no one should... It should be an accident.

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You know what I mean? I just don't think that you wake up one day and you're like,

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I think I'm going to grow up and be a psychic medium. I think you kind of fall into this and

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stumble into this. I was, for me, in my 13th year as a hairdresser when I started to notice that

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people were calling me on the weekend and coming to my house when I wasn't doing their hair.

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I know it sounds like such a dumb thing to assume that people loved me so much that they would come

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to me on the weekend and call me when they weren't getting their hair done, that they would come and

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ask advice from me. At the time, I literally believed that I was just the smart friend that they needed,

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and it never occurred to me that I was handing out information that came from somewhere bigger

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or brighter. It also never occurred to me that they should have called their friends,

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not their hairdresser. You know what I mean? Around that 13th year is also when I got married.

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On our wedding night, after everybody had left the party, after copious amounts of alcohol had

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been consumed, it was my parents left at the party and my sweet brand new husband.

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We were just kind of sitting around a campfire regaling in our love, regaling in the day,

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and my body took a shift and my voice changed octave a little bit, and my dad looked up at me and was

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like, I think you're handling my father. Now, I had never met my grandfather. He was not, he had

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died when my dad was 12, so I wouldn't know the vibration at all. Justice, as my dad pointed out

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that it sounded like his dad channeling through me, my husband's late mother also tried to come

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through. And my poor sweet husband, who by the way did not sign up for girl who speaks to dead

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people, stood up and was like, you know what? I think we need to call the night. I think it's

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time for bed. And instead of consummating my marriage that night, I stayed up and talked to

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dead people with my parents and got to know my late grandfather who I had never met. And we woke up,

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of course, the next day with like hangovers and thinking, gosh, was that some random party trick?

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Like what was that? Assuming it would never happen again. But for me, it was like every time I drank

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after that, everybody's dead people would show up. And it would be like my best friend Holly's

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grandmother comes through and I'm sitting across from my best friend Holly and I'm like,

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did your grandmother grow cucumbers? And Holly looks at me and goes, ah, yeah,

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we would get to grandma's house and we would jump out of the car and run straight to her garden and

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pick fresh cucumbers out and just like eat them off the vine. So wild. And so I have in the

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formative years learned how to manage this. I don't drink in psychic anymore. That's a real clear

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boundary that I have. And I did eventually go and get trained when I realized that this thing was

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not going to go away. Oh my gosh. That's the accident of it all. Yeah, that makes total sense

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why it's accidental. It just kind of seems like it was your calling in a way just on like of all

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nights, your wedding night. That's so wild. Talk about the portal, the inspirational night in your

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life. But what do you think it was now? I'm curious about how it started out. It sounds like every

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time you drank, what do you think it was about alcohol and just changing your frequency that way?

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So two things. One is something that I noticed in a lot of people. Some of our egos are really

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good at their job. And our egos are really just giant cock blocks. They're giant like get in the

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way of what is true for us. They want to control, they want to manipulate, they want to just stand

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in the way of our vibes of our intuition. And alcohol obviously lowered my egos inhibitions.

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It lowered my egos guard and defense mechanism. And now that I have hindsight being 2020, I can

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tell you that every time I drank alcohol, whether it wasn't always the dead people that showed up,

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but anytime I would drink alcohol, I would tell people like, oh, you're going to change your job

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or oh, your boyfriend's around the corner or, you know, some other fascinating fact that I

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should not have known about them. So it's like I had always been accidentally doing this, but the

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alcohol removed that filter. And so having to train myself to lower my ego was the differential.

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Being able to lower my manipulation, my control. And really what is manipulation and control but

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fear? Manipulation and control is just our contrived energy of trying to control and manipulate

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what's around us is also the antithesis of trust. So I was always out of trust, always in fear. And

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for me, becoming a psychic wasn't about learning how to do this magic trick. It was learning how to

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trust myself, the universe at large, and learning to let go of my egos need to manipulate everything.

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That's beautiful. I've heard that. I've been studying up on psychic mediumship ever since

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I attended one of your events. I think it was just like a week and a half ago now.

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And it was incredible. And I'll share more about that in a sec. But something that really stuck

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with me that I learned from this book I'm listening to called Choosing to be a Medium by Sharon Farber,

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or sorry, sorry, I think it's Choosing to be, yeah, Choosing to be a Medium, that's it.

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On Audible, she says that a surrender is a really, really big part of being able to channel and

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receive and give these messages. And I think that's really an alignment with what you just shared.

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Yes. It's so much about like, I'm working actually with a gal who's just coming out as a medium right

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now. And I'm trying to get her on my team because I can't see as many clients as the clients want

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to see me right now. And I want it to be an available thing. I really do think that the medium

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aspect, which for the listeners, the difference between a psychic and a medium is simple.

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A psychic is one that is communicating solely with your guides and your angels,

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and is able to both see your past, your present and your future. So we have that availability.

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Now, the future is ever changing based on your decisions. And it is not set in stone. So a lot

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of people will be like, that psychic got it wrong. No, that psychic saw you going to the right.

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And then when you left that reading, you went to the left. Whatever was set in that reading was

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actually catalytic to get you to move in a different direction or in the direction that was best for

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you. So psychics have that power or that availability to get the guides and angels channeling through

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them. A medium is such that we communicate with your late loved ones, those who have crossed over

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onto the other side. I am both. So I am both communicating with angels and guides simultaneously

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also able to communicate with your loved ones on the other side to communicate with your lost

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loved ones. In my opinion, the challenge is I feel your grief. I feel your desire to communicate

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with that person on the other side. And I feel sometimes their shame or their desire to be

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here also and having to get both of your emotions out of the way. And then my desire to not let you

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down my ego's desire to not let you down is my cock block. Wow. That sounds really hard. I have to

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remove my desire to make sure that you are communicated with by your people out of the

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way so that I can communicate. And I think that has been it took me from my wedding day.

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It has taken me almost eight years to fully embrace the mediumship. Wow. That's a journey.

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That's what the getting out of my own way because having been a hairdresser, my entire

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energetic design, my entire physicality is really built in service. I've never worked in any other

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career other than some service driven business, whether it was serving coffee, whether it was

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doing hair and now even of this. And from the service perspective, it's how might I serve you?

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How might I make you happy? In hair, people bring you a picture, you cut in color to their desired

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effect and you do your very best. And if they don't like it, they're allowed to come back and say,

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you know, this hair right here and this hair right here, don't match. Can you fix that?

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In psychic medium, I can't change what comes out to make it so that you're happy.

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The messages are purely designed specifically to your need, whether you like the message or not.

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Having to be okay that you're not okay with the message that comes out has been a huge challenge.

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Oh my gosh, I can only imagine because I'm sure people go to you into these evenings

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with a purpose, with whether it's looking to connect with someone or looking for clarity.

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And I'm sure sometimes clarity is not what's actually given, but it's maybe more questions.

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It is more questions. Sometimes it's a lot more questions. You asked a really interesting question

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about the wine and wood that you came to, which was how do I get more clarity and guidance from

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my people upstairs? And one of the answers I often get, which was not your answer,

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but I'll share the answer that I most often get, is your guides and angels are always

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communicating with you. You just don't like the answer.

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Yeah. Again, our ego is designed to manipulate and control. And our ego is like, no, I want

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to make this much money. I had a gal the other day who was like, I want to have babies by the time

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I'm 25 and be married. And I was like, so in essence, what you say when you say you want to

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have babies and be married by 25 is I'll take whatever piece of trash is here because I have a

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timeline. And I said, what if you said I want to meet the match that's for me at the time that the

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universe aligns us and we will have children then if that is also what is of our highest good.

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A completely different energy. Totally different energy.

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Totally different energy. Not like aligning yourself to have to be divorced minutes after

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having children or going through hard earth things because you're trying to juxtapose your

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manipulation in. Rather, you're like, oh, I'm open to and that goes back to that surrender word. I'm

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open to what happens in the timeframe that is an alignment for me. That reminds me of a quote.

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It's like, tell God that you have a plan and don't laugh. So yeah, if you want to make God laugh,

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make a plan. Yeah, exactly. Okay, that's cute. That's funny. But here's what's actually going to go down.

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I'm going to pull the carpet out from underneath you. This is going to be hilarious.

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I'm sure there's a lot of laughter upstairs. Oh, man. Yes. So I'd love to share a little bit more

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about, you know, like your group readings, because that's how I experienced you for the first time.

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And I know it's such a fun evening too, because you're also hilarious. You're also just such an

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amazing performer in holding the space and making sure that it's entertaining for everybody being

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there. Because I think within each reading that you give, we can also see parts of ourselves,

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even though we're not the one having the spotlight in that moment. It just makes me kind of think

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about all of these different things in my life that have transpired, seemingly in ways that I

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didn't even think about, but they just happen how they're supposed to. So can you share about

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more of your group events? I know it's been wine and woo, but I think that's changing

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and where people might be able to find you if they're local. Yes. So I have my last Denver wine

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and woo April 5th, I believe is the date. You can go to my website to get information about that

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willowbrotner.com. But the wine and woo, which is now being rebranded as the wild and woo,

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because so many people are choosing to be alcohol free. And it was being asked of me from multiple

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directions to please remove the word wine. So I just, and I'm totally up for however you guys

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want to come to this. If you want to drink, I'm great for it. But if you want to be more in the

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choosing of sobriety or choosing to be alcohol free, that's also great. So for me, the group thing

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was this, I was a stand up comic and an actress before I was a hairdresser before I became this

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weird psychic thing. So for me, the entertainment is supernatural. And it's really easy to get

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into that. And I had seen psychic mediums do stage readings before. And it was always so

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heavy and dark and like, really energetic and people would leave and they wouldn't be necessarily

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like uplifted, they would be like, still in the tears of the other people that had had come before

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them. And for me, it was just natural that I want to make people laugh anyways. And so I started

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thinking, can I be a stand up comic with a side of psychic? Or can I be a psychic with a side of

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stand up comedy? And so those two really started to combine. And what I love about that, and I heard

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from a comic some time ago was that comedy is the essence of bringing people to the brink of tear,

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bringing people to that brink of holding their breath and going in emotionally with you and then

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dropping a fart joke kind of thing. And that it's actually that tension and that release that makes

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people laugh. And I thought, what a beautiful concept because as well, I don't want anybody

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leaving carrying other people's energy and laughter breaks that hard energy. Laughter actually is the

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cleansing juice that one needs when we are energetically intertwined. It's that laughter that

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transitions us from one person's reading to the next person's reading. And it helps to break

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that cycle of energy between each other. When I'm doing a big group, I also am looking at that

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entertainment perspective of how do I get everybody captivated and everybody's reading and not make

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it feel like, I want my turn, I want my turn, I want my turn. Yeah, you did that so well. Yeah.

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And you shared something, you reminded me, you shared something during, it was Valentine's Day,

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so a lot of the sharing were about love. And it was perfect because my friend who attended had just

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gone through a breakup and it was just so, such great timing. But something that you shared that

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really stuck with me that I also used as my theme for my yoga classes for the past week was that

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you can care, caring is beautiful, but you don't have to carry. Yes. Care, but you don't have to

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carry. And I just love that because it gives so much permission just to like show up. I think the

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whole like, I don't give a fuck culture, like that's out. And like, accepting that we care,

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we care about so many things, and that's a beautiful part of life, but that we don't have to

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keep that emotional baggage on our shoulders and let us weigh us down into the rest of our lives.

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I think the empath message needs to be louder in that vibration. And I think that I have no fucks

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to give thing is like a really great idea, but it frankly, it's untrue. It's so super duper untrue.

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And I think the people screaming it at the top of their lungs, like, I have no fucks left to give,

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I'm like, you are the biggest carer in the whole wide world. And you're trying to cut your cords,

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and you don't know how to cut those energetic cords or all the cares that you do have. So it's like

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the carrying, I think what we do with and for our friends with and for our family is we want to

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unburden. We want to create freedom for our friends and our family. And I think that that's why we

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end up carrying. But what we don't understand is that just us carrying their burden doesn't unburden

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them. Right. And I think that's the part that we're not understanding. And then we end up in our

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desire to unburden for people, we end up putting on them. We end up telling them what they should

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do based on our own projection of what works for us, but that is not going to work for them.

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And I'm going to put it in this way, I don't love to share this story that much, but I'll share it for

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you guys is when so I had cancer in 2021. Greatest gift for me. I got lucky. I know that not everybody's

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going to get lucky. But my favorite friend was a yogi friend of mine. And she was not particularly

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close to me, we're not tight friends. But she came to my house I had in my camp. And she was

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not comfortable with me. We're not tight friends. But she came to my house I had in my cancer journey,

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50 people every day come pick me up and drive me to treatment. I had treatment five days a week.

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So somebody would come to my house and drive me to treatment a different person every day,

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somebody would come and walk me every day so that I would not get stagnant on my couch or in my

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vibes. And somebody would cook for me every single day. And I just invited all these people into this.

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It was uncomfortable. What I noticed was the discomfort in people wanting me to be happy,

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wanting me to feel good. And this one friend that I'm bringing into this conversation sat with me

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and cried. And I thought the power of being okay to feel with my vibes, not take away my vibes,

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not try to transition my vibes, not try to unburden my vibes, but trying to just or just allowing

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me to be with it and her allowing herself to be in that with me. That was magical. And that has

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served me in so many ways that I didn't realize that ability to be in grief with somebody, that

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ability to be in hard with somebody without needing again, we go back to that manipulation word,

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without needing to manipulate or control. Oh, that's beautiful. That actually unburdened me

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the most. Yeah. And she didn't carry it with her. She was in it with me. Does that make sense?

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with all of their emotions, right? It takes someone who's really done a lot of work on themselves

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to be able to do that. And I think that's so beautiful. I'm so glad you were able to have that.

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It was magical. And I just I would wish for anybody to try this. And again, it will be a try

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initially until you're comfortable feeling other people's feelings. But I think when we feel other

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people's feelings, we don't then carry it. If we allow ourselves to be in their vibration, we won't

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then take it home with us. Exactly. Then it kind of just moves through you, right? Let go of it.

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Which is very somatic therapy, if you know, let it flow through you.

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the depths, right? The nuances of it. The nuances of it. Exactly. Having to like,

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having to like, I just this image came to my head of like, seeing somebody down in a ditch,

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and it's the difference of like throwing a rope down to them, or actually like climbing down with

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them, being with them, and then getting out together. Being able to hold that with someone I

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think is so special. Yes. Yes. Okay, so thinking about how like your gifts with mediumship,

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this is spiritual awakening podcast, we have a lot of like, witchy people, a lot of people who

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are empaths, and a lot of people who I think are very interested in this work. And I'm curious,

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I've been learning about how there are different types of mediums. And actually, one thing that I

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thought of when you were sharing earlier is how all mediums are psychic, but not all psychics are

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mediums. Yes. Like, oh, that's an interesting way to think of it. So when you were sharing the

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difference, I'm like, yes, okay, that sinks in a little bit deeper. But I'm curious, how do you

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receive messages? That's a really good question. So the guides and angels speak to me through,

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so there's all the different clary, so the clary audience, the Clara Boyant, the Clara Sentient,

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and then the Clara Sentient, which you and I have a little bit. And I have more of the Clara

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Cognizant, which is the combination. It's not special. I just want to be clear. Like, again,

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I hate hierarchy and spiritualism. I think it's super dumb. But Clara Cognizant, I want to say

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it's just basically like, you're a full combo, like you understood how to use all your claries

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together. So some people make Clara Cognizant sound like it's some sort of extra super duper

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power in this, but it's really just, you know, how to quickly combine all the messages into one

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single spot. So it feels like it's being dropped in. So for me, it's not that I don't see or hear or

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sense or smell. It's like I get them all at once. And so the messages that I derived from the guides

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and angels are really, they feel like they're dropped in. So I can, for example, if somebody says,

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I'm looking for my guy, this is just an example from a wine and wood the other day, somebody asked

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where her dude was and if he was ever coming and I started describing him and I said, but I want

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to be clear, he doesn't live here. And I hope you're open to move. I think he's in California.

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And she looks up and goes, uh-huh. So I'm moving to California in one week. Oh my God. Yeah. So,

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but I get that information delivered in that way. So I'm seeing, sensing, feeling this gentleman

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who's coming on her behalf. I see and sense what kind of career he has. And then I hear very

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distinctly that he is not here. He's in California. And so then I get all those pieces of information.

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And when I'm speaking to your loved ones, your loved ones come in because I was a hairdresser.

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Your loved ones always show their hair first to me. So I start describing and I just learned

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this word the other day. Apparently I'm an evidentiary, evidentiary. I don't know how to say the word

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psychic. So I give evidence to prove that I have your person in. So when you're doing the medium

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ship, if you have a medium who's like, yes, I've got Joe from the other side and he says blankety

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blank, but they haven't provided evidence that it's in fact your person. I would be wary of that medium.

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Yeah. I can see that. He wants to know that they're really bringing in your person. And occasionally

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I'll have people that are like, nope, that's not my person. And I'm like, great. Let's wait until

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we get all the energy in. I'm not interested in bringing in just some wonky energy that might

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feel like Joe. I want Joe in. So I would ask just Joe have like little to no hair here,

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but he might have hair around his side. Did Joe dress this way? Does Joe's vibration feel like

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this? Did Joe have books? Did he have a lazy boy chair that he always sat in? And I'll add all this

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evidence in. And once we're clear that I have your Joe in, then the reading really does commence.

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I really respect that. And I can see that being so much more impactful and just kind of a

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allows the person's ego to go aside, right? Cause it's like you kind of provided proof to them

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that this is that person. Right. One of the new things that's happening with the loved ones on

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the other side that I'm obsessed with and it's new. And I think it's just like the more I develop,

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the more I trust, the more I understand that I can't like every day I do, anytime I go into a

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wine and we were a wild and will I'm like, will your people show up? Will my guides and angels

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show up? Well, I mean, I'm always nervous and I'm always a wreck and I'm always scared every

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single time that I do it. I'm not some special unique person that doesn't have an ego. Like I

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still am nervous and a wreck every time. And I pray to God that they show up because again,

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my ego is, I don't want to let you down. I do not want to let the people who are paying me down.

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And I want to be that conduit. I want to be that vibration for you guys. So I'm scared always that

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it's not going to work. But one of the things that is working that is so cool is they're starting

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to show me who they're with on the other side. So they'll immediately say like I'm with my brother.

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they're with even. Sometimes I'll be like, yes, and I'm with your mom or yes, I'm with my sister.

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And it's so cool. They always show me if you can't see my arm is like linked. So they'll show me who

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they're linked to on the other side and who they're hand in hand with. And that is so freaking cool.

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Like that's a new development that just recently has happened that they're starting to point out

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who they're hanging out with. That is so cool. And that did happen in the wine and wool that I

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was in with you. And I remember it wasn't the person like the person wasn't linked. It was

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someone's dad and she was expecting it to be her mom. And you said like, no, it's his brother.

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And kind of reason with her of like why it wasn't her mom and it really landed with her. So I think

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that expectation again, just putting that all aside and being more open to understand like

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what's true and what's real and why it's that way. Well, and then something that also keeps being asked

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that I don't know if again, I don't know. I grew up in a family that doesn't care that much. We don't

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have a whole lot of like lineage, like my parents don't care about the lineage. They don't care about

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their grandparents. They don't care about the family that we came from. There's nothing precious

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about the human experience is essentially how I was raised. And so I get a lot of people asking

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it's like the grandparents care about the grandkids if they're like hanging out looking after the

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grandkids. And I keep asking that question and it doesn't feel relevant to me that they're like

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up there just spending all their time hanging out looking after us. I think we want them to.

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And I think we want them to love, care and respect us the way that we miss them. And I'm not positive

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that that, at least in my experience, I would love to be wrong about this. But in my experience, I

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don't see them. It's not that they don't love us or care about us, but I don't see them like every

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day like with binoculars looking down at us like, she needs to go right, you know, we're with the

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grandkids every second of every day. Like they're busy upstairs doing other things too. Like they

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are meeting their other soul tribe upstairs too. I think that part is where the lack of understanding

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comes because I think from what I've gathered and I mean, what I've even thought is like, oh,

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after life, there's nothing else to do but look down on earth and see everybody who you love

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and what they're doing in life like it's some sad like that. And I think we miss them so much

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in our grief that we are very hopeful that that is all that they are doing is caring about us.

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Right. But there is an evolution. The way that I see life and death is that death is actually a

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graduation. And I know that sounds really tragic for some to believe that possibly we would graduate

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into a different energetic, but we are leaving the skin suit and we are moving up words, if you will,

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if you will, and into an energetic vibration that is different than human human is a this is school

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as I'm being told and taught is like this is just it's like where we learn how to do things.

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It's like a video game where we're learning how to do stuff down here. And then up there,

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it's a lot more freed and a little bit lighter energies. And sometimes we are hanging out with

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those who have crossed over as well. Sometimes we're immediately incarnating into one of your

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grandkids or one of your other people. Sometimes we're even graduating beyond that and learning

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different powers and energies. A lot of times when I'm communicating with those on the other side,

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I'm being given a hologram. Wow. And it's just their energetic message that's left behind.

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Oh, my gosh, I feel like this will have to be a whole other podcast.

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So what happens after death, just sharing theories and concepts and things.

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And that's all it is. It's all theory. We're not dead. So we're just getting fragments of what's

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to come. And I think, I think if I can say anything, our desire to understand the unknown

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of what's coming for us and what is coming next in life, I think that is both crippling.

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And if we can, again, move our ego past the need to know what happens when we die or what happens

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tomorrow, we will have the freedom and abundance that we're looking for that potential. But I'm

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really curious. This is something that has been showing up for me. The more I read about history,

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the more that I understand how short our lifetime span is really here and that we are

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and that we are incarnated and that we do come back again. The less I care about this timeframe,

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and I don't mean that in a negative way. I actually mean it in a so I can fail,

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so I can play out so that I can go big or go home so that I can not worry about getting it

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perfect but just getting it done at all. It's been expanding my ability to use the potential in me.

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All of us are gifted this huge amount of energy. If you imagine potential being your energetic

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battery in your body, and that all of us are using 10% approximately of the energetic battery that

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were gifted with a few people really using and compelled to use that 90% of their battery.

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If you could turn up the volume and not be so afraid, if you could trust in yourself and trust

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in your potential and trust that you're here for a really short period and you don't need to worry

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about the unknown and just go for it. Powerful. How much work could you do?

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It's just limitless then. I love that way of thinking. It reminds me of just thinking about

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how what is real? I think all of our problems and these things are responsibilities and life.

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Expectations get so big, but if we just kind of zoom out and realize that we're on this floating

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rock in the middle of space, then it's just also that same way of thinking like, okay, we're back.

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Yes, and if we can just move into, and I know that this framework is so trite to say this, but

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like if we could move into the framework that we are here for just a minute and a blip and it's

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really about having a good time, it's not about making babies necessarily. It's not about finding

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love necessarily. It's not about your career necessarily. These are all again the ego's construct.

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It's all society's construct. You're to get here and figure out what you want to be when you grow up

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and make enough money so you can retire someday and find somebody that you want to make out with

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and have babies with someday. Like, holy cow, just those five things, just those five things

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stand in the way of self-actualization a lot of times. Yeah, because if we were just approaching

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life, what can I do right now to make me happy? Yeah, what will today bring me? And if I should

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meet somebody that I'm willing to make out with for a long period of time, great, then that's how

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that will go. Exactly. If I have enough money in my bank account to pay for the roof over my head,

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wonderful. Right. And if one day that person you want to make out with anymore, you don't want to

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make out with anymore, then this is the end of that chapter and it wasn't a mistake. It was just

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graduation day. Graduation into the next chapter and you learn so much, but oh, great, great

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points. I love this so much. Now to transition into maybe a darker side, I'm curious if you

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believe that there are also dark or evil spirits because I think that a lot of people might be

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afraid of mediumship because of the potentiality that there are, that there's evil out there and

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that it could attach to them. So I'm curious for your thoughts on that. Okay, this is a hard,

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deep question, guys. And this is just how I have depicted it all of my life. So when I first started

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in this business, when I first was getting trained, the first person that I worked with

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was a lint roller for stuck in yuck energy. He was very empathic. He loved dark energy and I would

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leave his energy quote unquote healing sessions with bugs on me. So it's almost like he bugged me.

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I do believe that there is, there are darker energetic bugs. And there are some people who are

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more likely to get those bugs. So let me just explain the bugs. I just call them bugs because

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I don't want to attach any further information onto them. Okay, so I want to be really clear

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with you guys that I'm only attaching like light vibration energy around it because I want you to

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just think of it as just bedbugs, okay, and they can be eradicated very easily. If you are somebody

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who suffers struggles with depression bipolar disorder anxiety, I'm not saying that you are

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going to inevitably attracted, but you are more likely to the darker vibrations can only attach

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to people who can meet them at those vibrational levels. If you are somebody who is seeking treatment

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for depression bipolar disorder or anxiety, you will less likely be picking up these bugs. Okay,

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little things can help to also transform transition, transmute your vibes so that you are less likely

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to pick up these bugs. Number one, always put a sponge, not a scrubby brunt sponge, but like a soft

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sponge in your bra. I like to cut them in heart shapes and I put them in my bra and I say, okay,

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you are here to simply pick up all the bad vibes and bad juju so that I'm not the lint roller. So

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I just make it a habit. I put it in, I washed it out at night. Once it's dry, I put it in, I have

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a couple so that I'm never without. The other thing is some people really are great with crystals.

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They love the crystals. Choose a couple crystals that are high by being stick those in your purse

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or pocket. And again, say to those crystals, you're here to pick up the bugs so that I don't have to.

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Number three is if you are somebody who like smells, choose a smell, choose a doTERRA, choose a

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young living, I don't give a fuck which, you know, smell is your smell. Choose something that has

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high vibration and put that on and that will be your shield for the day so that you don't pick

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up other people's vibes. Last and number four thing to do if you are somebody who loves to pick

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up bugs, then you would think that you might be a lint roller stuck in your vibes. Please take a

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salt bath at the end of your day and or salt scrub if you only have a shower or do sugar scrub or

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salt scrub and make a point of making noise, getting one of those song bowls or something of that and

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just gonging yourself every day when you get home from work. Okay, those are going to clear out the

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bugs. Evil, I'm not into, but we do know that there are sociopaths. We do know, but the sociopathic

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brain is such a minute minute group of people, but there are energetic kidnappers and those are the

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dark, vibey energies. And again, we noticed the energetic kidnapper more in the bipolar and the

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addict brain, the addict brain is also just a kidnapper that got into somebody's vibration and

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stole part of who they were ultimately. Again, we can gong that out, we can work with

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pharmaceutical people like people who are psychiatrists to help change our vibrations. Okay, I don't

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believe totally in the woo that you could just eat your way out of this. I don't believe totally in

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the woo that you could just mind set your way out of this. If you have cracks that need filling up,

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if your serotonin levels do not excrete chemicals in a righteous way, and there is a down date,

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that is the day that you can pick up energetic bugs. I'm a medium that does not luckily suffer from

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or have experienced low vibration. So I don't have mental health disorder. And I'm not saying that

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that's batter room for anybody. It just happens that I am so fucking puppies and rainbows.

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It's really unlikely that an energetic bug is going to get on me. Unless somebody plants one on me.

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Right. So I'm not passing them on. Yes. Yes. Thank you for sharing all of that. I think,

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especially those four tips, those are things that shouldn't be like the first thing that our audience

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is hearing this too. So hopefully it just helps. It's like a nice reminder to further integrate

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and plant those roots deep in when clearing your space, when cleansing your body. I love the idea

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of a heart sponging your bra. Try that. That's awesome. Yeah. Again, it's right. And those who

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are super deeply empathic, those are small tips. But I really want to say if you're deeply empathic,

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you generally, and I am generalizing here and I know somebody might at me, but generally,

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if you're highly empathic, you are also somebody who is likely suffering with mental health. And

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I say suffer. You don't have to suffer. We do not have to suffer. And I am a big proponent. And I

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only learned this after cancer because I was all organic mama for years until I still got cancer,

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even though my energy was clear, even though I ate all the organics, I still got the cancer. And so

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what I have gathered from my experience with major medical is God made that too, by the way. The

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universe and spiritual made pharmaceuticals, by the way. So you go get yourself some SSRIs and help

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yourselves feel better today. I love it. Great message. No shame. No guilt. They're here. I am so

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over the manifestation of illness. I'm so over now, like you can eat yourself out of this. I do

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believe that health is going to help. I do believe that herbs and taking care of your body will help.

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But God also, universe, source, whatever you want to call it, brought us doctors, brought us medicine,

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brought us technology. So we don't have to suffer. Right. And we're living here in this time for a

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reason with all of that. We used to die if we got an infection people. Right. And so we're all like,

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oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, I'm not getting cancer. Like I got so shamed in cancer by my own people

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because I went the way of traditional medicine because I have a daughter, by the way, because

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my sister-in-law died because she went the natural way and she didn't make it because she refused to

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do cancer treatment. She's dead. I had seen it up close and personal. I was like, I have a daughter

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I intend to be here for. I intend to be here. And I know it's going to cause some stuff in my body,

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but I'm going full chemo, full radiation. I'm doing it. And I had people quit me as like they were

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like, you manifested this, you're doing it. I don't believe that you're going the chemical route. And

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I'm like, we celebrate the universe, but now we're not celebrating doctors. We're not celebrating

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science. We're not celebrating technology. Oh my gosh, guys, we have to have it all. It's all here

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on purpose. Marry them both. I do acupuncture. I do health food and I do chemo and radiation.

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I'm so with you. I believe in everything you're saying. And I'm so glad you're sharing that. And

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I'm so sorry that you had to deal with all the new sayers and the hitters and just the ego people.

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I just think it matters that we say that part out loud. Yes, I do think a lot of people think that,

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you know, we have to go this one route, especially if we're in this awakened spiritual

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space is that somehow we have to be all natural. And it's like, no, that's where we began, but we

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also have calibrated and added on to all of that with these other magical things. Exactly. Our

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life expectancy has grown for a reason, thanks to these things. So let's use them. They're here for

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us. Oh my gosh. Amazing. So thinking about our audience and how I have a sense that people

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listening to this are going to be really excited about mediumship. Also, just I think that they're

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going to be resonating with a lot of what you're saying, even some people might be like, Oh, yeah,

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when I drink, I experienced similar things. So I'm curious what your advice might be for anybody

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who's listening, who might be interested in kind of deepening or growing or developing in this way

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of mediumship. Yeah. Go for it is what I say. I think more is more. So I think all of us, if we

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have the availability, if we have the desire to grow the ability, absolutely, please do. The big

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thing that I would say is back to the question that you asked about, are there darker energies in the

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medium or even in the psychic? When choosing somebody to work with, please do choose the channel,

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aka the person that vibrates at your level. If you are somebody who's sensitive to those darker

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vibrations, find somebody who's going to train you at the higher light or vibration that might feel

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better to you. You always want to find that psychic or that medium that comes from the light. And

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there are those who come from the dark who appreciate like my first guy who trained me was

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very invested in the dark. I had to find people who are of the light to train me after him.

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I do have a course in class. If anybody's interested, I'm happy to. It lives in perpetuity. It lives on

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my website. I don't tout it or sell it per se like I used to, but it is there for anybody who is

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interested in learning more and developing their abilities more. Wonderful. Thank you so much for

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sharing that. I think that will go really far just for you to check out, including myself. Now I'm

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there is a free masterclass on my website as well that is you can just go log into Willa Bradner.com

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and it's a free, I believe there's like four classes, like four little classes on it, but it'll teach you

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how to understand your intuition and your ego so that even that will help you develop your

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intuition a lot more and in a more generous manner. That's huge, right? That's huge for so many things

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that we talk about in life. Wonderful. And my last question is, are you picking anything up for me?

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Oh, that's so sweet. Let me look. Do I have your permission? You sure do. I'm so curious. I was kind

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of thinking about it all morning of just what might naturally come to you. My guides might want me to hear today.

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Are you making out? Because the first thing I hear is love for you. Oh, yeah. I'm in a really good place right now with my husband.

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Yeah. To me, it just feels like love is where you're settled and settling in your spirit.

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For you, when you're the most grounded is, I don't know if you guys sit with each other on the couch,

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like into each other, but that's how they're putting it, is if you're reading, it's really a sort of a snuggle read situation,

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but that's what really grounds you out is that rooted place in love for you helps you to get more inspired and more into your own intuition

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is when you are in that space of love and groundedness.

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100% resonate with that. Just kidding. We've been snuggling since 2011.

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I love it. Well, not again for those of us who are channeling more than others, we have to have our tether to the earth.

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When we're in spiritual space, I think that's the other aspect is tethering to the ground,

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is finding that grounded space to help us open up to our psychic or our intuition.

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If we don't have ground and we just go into outer space, we don't make sense.

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Yeah, we're not able to be a bridge or ladder for the people on earth if we're only living in outer space.

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And so oftentimes we choose partners who are tethers who are more of the grounded variety so that we can reach further higher faster.

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I love that. I also want to say that it feels to me like your business,

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and I understand that you're currently working in the sales space for the nurture,

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but it does feel like your business is wanting desperately for you to expand it.

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It is asking for you to make time for it in a way that you might not have.

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And if you can do sales for other people, then it's time for you to turn the sales on for yourself and your business

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and stop being shy to it and start listening to it in the way that it's asking you to hear it.

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And it doesn't feel like the coach word feels right for you. It feels more like

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partner for people to be riding the path with them.

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And again, I'm going to go back to something that I said to you in the Whiten Woo,

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which is I do believe, especially once you get the sniffer situation worked out,

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I do believe that you are going to end up more in the medical medium side of things.

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And I'd really love to see you in pursuit of understanding more in the nature holistic path of your psychic abilities.

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I'm so excited. I've been researching so much. And just to fill in our listeners,

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I feel like this is important to share. But in my group reading with Willow last week,

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she said that my guides were pointing to my nose and how that meant that I have this

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Claire sentience. But with the sense, I think it's Claire all. I forget the word for it.

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It's a funny word that it is between the two of them. Yeah.

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But that I would be able to sniff out illness in people. And so I've done so much research on that.

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And three days later, I went to the dentist and I had a 360 X ray, which they do once a year.

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And they found that I have a pretty large cyst in my sinus cavity. And so that I message Willow

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right after I was like, how did my guides come like bring you this message of my nose?

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And you just shared how they were just pointing to my nose. Okay, well, here's what happened.

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So at that too, I had to admit that maybe I had misread it because she was talking more about her

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career in the health coachy space and into that to the more holistic space. And I hear

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anytime they point to the nose, especially when I'm dealing with somebody who is really interested

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in health and wellness, that it is that they're able to smell. And I curiously wonder if it was

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part of you that as well was but didn't know how to read it. And the cyst is going to help clear

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that out so that you can. That's what I'm hoping for. That's what I'm really like holding on to

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right now. I'm really excited to see what this I mean, again, excited is excited, scared is how I

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would put it. Because I want to make sure that it's a healthy situation that they're able to easily

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remove for you and that it's not going to cause greater harm, obviously. But I'll be really

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excited to see how that transforms and transitions your ability to take in information for other

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people as well. You too. Thank you. I will definitely keep you posted and everything you

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shared today already has my gears turning and is in super alignment with a couple ideas they've had

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for my business and just the ways that I want to take it forward. So just another little boost

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that I'm going to write that. Yes, you are. Yes, you are. Absolutely. And don't hesitate to be

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writing if you're not writing daily blogs. If you're not in those blogs will eventually become

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the book. So just know that you don't have to sit down and write a book. You just have to write

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those blogs whenever you are inspired and you write it just imagine it's a chapter. Okay.

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I love it. Thank you so much for having me. Thank you so much, Willow. This has been such a joy

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and I want to hear from your words. How can our listeners connect with you?

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I'm always on the Facebook and the Instagram and the TikTok. I'm TikTok obsessed. If you just

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want to see me in comedy, it's more on the TikTok. So you guys can always join me and

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it's again Willow Bradner. So just join me that way and my website's named after me because

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I was raised in a business era where everything's named after us. It's just easy that way. I promise

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I'm not a narcissist. At least I hope not. God forbid. Let me know if I am. I have two fears.

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Halitosis and narcissism. You're hilarious. Oh, well, thank you. I will also link your website

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and all your socials in the description for this podcast. But so much gratitude for you. Thank you.

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Thank you. Also, thanks so much. I'll talk to you soon.