1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:10,400 Hello everybody and welcome to a new episode of the Awaken Together podcast. 2 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:11,400 I'm Kat. 3 00:00:11,400 --> 00:00:12,900 I'm Jen. 4 00:00:12,900 --> 00:00:18,640 And today we are going to be talking all about relationships, specifically love, soulmates, 5 00:00:18,640 --> 00:00:24,920 conscious friendships, all under the lens of soul contracts. 6 00:00:24,920 --> 00:00:29,680 So soul contracts, you might have heard this before in a couple different ways. 7 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:34,320 One way that I've heard of it recently is as it relates to yourself and your values 8 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:36,320 and your purpose here on life. 9 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:38,240 So we'll talk about that another time. 10 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:43,840 Today what we're really going to dig into is a relationship element of soul contracts. 11 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:47,040 And so what is a soul contract? 12 00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:53,000 Soul contracts are really the spiritual contracts between two or more people that starts as 13 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:55,040 soon as you meet them. 14 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:59,160 And these contracts are really there to teach us important life lessons. 15 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:05,160 They move our lives in different directions or awaken motivation and passions within us. 16 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:09,360 And so I like to think of this as when we are all reincarnated. 17 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:14,200 I'm just going to put it out there, the assumption that you all know what I'm talking about. 18 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:16,680 I know you do, Jen. 19 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:23,280 But with reincarnation, basically before we are put into these bodies, into this life, 20 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:27,960 there's a bit of a conversation that happens, a negotiation, if you will, of the higher 21 00:01:27,960 --> 00:01:33,520 beings that decide which souls go into which bodies and what really the purpose is of that 22 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:34,520 life. 23 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:40,520 And during that process, there's a conversation of the other souls who will be put on this 24 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:44,840 soul's journey to experience what they need to receive in this life. 25 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:51,200 So the three types of soul contracts that we'll talk about, one is soulmate contracts, 26 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:56,040 two bump contracts, and three twin flame contracts. 27 00:01:56,040 --> 00:01:57,040 So good. 28 00:01:57,040 --> 00:02:01,760 Yeah, for soul contracts, I feel like this is really fun. 29 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:05,360 I like to tie all of this into astrology as well. 30 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:11,600 But basically, it's just the belief that we are going through everything we're going 31 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:18,280 through for such a deeper reason that everything is here to help us awaken to something within 32 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:19,280 ourselves. 33 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:24,580 And when we arrive here on Earth, we don't remember this contract necessarily, but every 34 00:02:24,580 --> 00:02:29,360 single thing that we are going through and experiencing is all a part of this bigger 35 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:33,200 puzzle that we are looking to figure out. 36 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:38,880 And relationships are one of the biggest catalysts for helping us unpack things within ourselves. 37 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:45,400 And I believe that we are really here to awaken to a way bigger purpose. 38 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:51,520 And all of these things are helping our soul learn how to navigate experiences differently, 39 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:55,680 to learn how to be unattached to certain things, to learn how to develop skills through certain 40 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:56,680 things. 41 00:02:56,680 --> 00:03:01,440 And yeah, the people around us tend to be one of the biggest shifts for us. 42 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:07,480 And so within these soul contracts that Kat's going to give us a little definition for, 43 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:14,840 I think that it's really important to see that there is so many little tiny steps that 44 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:17,080 lead to us interacting with people. 45 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:20,960 It's actually crazy sometimes to just look around at like your closest friendships and 46 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:25,840 think of how many steps it took for you to end up being in like under the same roof or 47 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:27,940 in the same space together. 48 00:03:27,940 --> 00:03:31,800 It's just really, really profound when you think of it, when you kind of detach in this 49 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:36,100 way of thinking like, what is this person here to show me about myself? 50 00:03:36,100 --> 00:03:41,040 And you see every single thing as being this interaction for a deeper reason. 51 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:44,480 I think it can be, first of all, so beautiful. 52 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:48,940 And I've had so many like crazy aha moments when I think about people in this way and 53 00:03:48,940 --> 00:03:50,200 really reflect on that. 54 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:54,960 But I also just think it kind of shows just the spiritual and deeper meaning behind our 55 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:57,080 existence and why we're here. 56 00:03:57,080 --> 00:04:00,160 Yes, so well said. 57 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:04,320 And I love thinking about it that way too, of like, what are the odds that in all the 58 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:08,520 years on earth, we are here with each other right now? 59 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:09,520 I love that. 60 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:10,520 Yeah. 61 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:14,360 And our story Kat, we'll have to give a little review because you're definitely one of my 62 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:15,360 soulmates, 10,000%. 63 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:16,360 100% agree. 64 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:17,360 Likewise. 65 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:22,120 Give us those definitions and we'll talk it out. 66 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:26,960 Okay, so the one that probably everyone has heard of before, soulmates, right? 67 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:32,080 But I think that the traditional definition or meaning of soulmate might be a little bit 68 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:36,040 different than what it's defined as here. 69 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:41,680 So soulmates are those souls, those people who feel so familiar to us. 70 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:46,240 Right when you meet them, there's a sense of ease and like you've known them for a really 71 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:51,520 long time and that's kind of the idea is that you do, you have, you've known them through 72 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:57,440 past lives and you've kind of reconnected here on this earth for a reason. 73 00:04:57,440 --> 00:05:05,480 But the difference here with love and this way to view soulmates is that a soulmate can 74 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:12,080 be a friend, it can be a sibling, it can be a partner, it can be anyone in your life who's 75 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:13,920 there to teach you something. 76 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:20,640 Now, I think the soulmate bond can be a difficult one as well because it's not just all the 77 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:25,520 warm and fuzzies that you think of when you think of someone who is there to bond with 78 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:27,440 you for life. 79 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:35,360 It's equal parts hard sometimes as it is beautiful and that's because we learn so many lessons 80 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:38,200 from the hardship, right? 81 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:43,440 And a lot of the times these soulmates will be in your life for just a bit, maybe just 82 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:49,680 a chapter or two or three or five, but not necessarily the entirety of your life. 83 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:55,840 So this was a game changer when I heard about this and we'll kind of come back to this, 84 00:05:55,840 --> 00:06:01,040 but I want to talk about the two other definitions so that we can just have a common language 85 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:02,920 as we're talking about them. 86 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:04,480 So that's one. 87 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:07,000 Number two, bump contracts. 88 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:11,440 And this is a newer term for me, but when I heard about it, I was like, oh my God, yes, 89 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:18,360 like I completely understand this and I know you do too, Jen, so I have a feeling y'all 90 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:19,360 will. 91 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:23,840 But think about when someone comes into your life and it's kind of out of nowhere, but 92 00:06:23,840 --> 00:06:29,840 again, there's this like really intense bond and they almost come into your life so hard 93 00:06:29,840 --> 00:06:35,520 and fast that it seems to like bump you off of your path a little bit and kind of rattle 94 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:39,800 you and shake you and make you go, wait a minute, what am I doing here? 95 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:46,960 Like who is this person that just caused me to rethink my entire life? 96 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:48,480 So that's kind of bump contracts. 97 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:53,880 They are in your life for the shortest amount of time because they are there to be a teacher, 98 00:06:53,880 --> 00:07:00,560 to have that awakening moment of like, wait a minute, is this current relationship I'm 99 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:02,440 in what I truly want? 100 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:07,280 So oftentimes this could be someone when you are in a committed monogamous relationship 101 00:07:07,280 --> 00:07:11,000 and there's someone who comes into your life hard and fast and there's this instant sense 102 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:16,840 of wanting and it might be a little surface level, it might not be the deepest, it could 103 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:22,160 be, but they're not there to prolong any sort of relationship. 104 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:28,600 They're just there to teach you and then they leave your life as fast as they came in. 105 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:32,560 So that's two and then the last one is twin flames. 106 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:38,840 So this is where the love, the romanticism comes in and this is actually a teaching of 107 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:46,000 the Kabbalah and it said that when a soul is put here on earth, their soul, their spirit 108 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:52,400 is actually split into two and those two separate souls are put into two different bodies and 109 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:59,520 then they're put here on their lives on earth and a big part of their purpose here in life 110 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:07,400 is finding each other, finding that twin flame and when you find that twin flame, it is said 111 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:14,200 that you just feel whole and complete and a sense of ease and peace and like you don't 112 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:17,680 have to be seeking or grasping anymore happens. 113 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:20,720 So we have lots of feelings on that. 114 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:22,480 Jen, what do you think? 115 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:28,120 Yeah, so we were kind of talking out each of these beforehand and I also like to kind 116 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:35,000 of picture that we have this little like soul family bubble and this is definitely something 117 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:41,000 that I've had multiple people that we've like talked and had heart to hearts on this on 118 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:43,960 that as you do past life readings. 119 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:48,720 So that could be the Akashic record reading or doing a past life meditation guided that 120 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:53,400 you're able to see that some of the current relationships you've had in past lives, you've 121 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:56,040 had it in a different way. 122 00:08:56,040 --> 00:09:01,680 So maybe your sister in your last life was your mom or maybe these relationship roles 123 00:09:01,680 --> 00:09:06,440 have kind of altered throughout time, but there's still this general sense that you're 124 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:10,160 kind of traveling through things together and you're unpacking different things within 125 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:11,720 different lifetimes. 126 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:17,960 I love that thought as well because I do think it's really wild when you meet someone and 127 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:24,680 the familiarity that you feel on the inside is like so instant and there's really no other 128 00:09:24,680 --> 00:09:30,040 explanation behind the fact that like, oh, we've done this before and we were 100% like 129 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:35,440 planning on meeting again in this life and it's just no work has to really be done. 130 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:40,340 It's just this instant magnet and it just like goes super smoothly. 131 00:09:40,340 --> 00:09:42,000 We were talking about twin flames a little. 132 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:45,680 I know this got like so popular on TikTok for a while. 133 00:09:45,680 --> 00:09:53,200 Like there was like a twin flame conversation going down all over and you know, I think 134 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:57,560 for twin flames, they really believe that you only have like one in this lifetime and 135 00:09:57,560 --> 00:10:04,120 that it's like so intense, like right off the get go and so passionate and you know, 136 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:11,000 I'm not against this as a concept, but I definitely do feel like there can be so many different 137 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:15,120 soul interactions that can create that kind of bond. 138 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:21,080 I feel like that's happened to me like multiple times where there's been just like huge pieces. 139 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:26,840 So regardless of what each thing looks like and what distance, you know, what amount of 140 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:31,160 time I guess rather that you're spending with each of these people that like come into your 141 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:32,160 life. 142 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:37,680 I think it's really cool to think of it through the lens of soul contract because yeah, it's 143 00:10:37,680 --> 00:10:43,200 just freaking wild with some people, you know, I've had some like, I've had so many crazy 144 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:44,200 weird experiences. 145 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:50,800 I feel like my life's always like these wild moments, but even for me and Kat's story, 146 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:51,800 right? 147 00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:57,240 Like the amount of action steps, the fact that we both followed this random girls podcast 148 00:10:57,240 --> 00:11:03,120 and then because of that, we joined this random girls Facebook page and then within that Facebook 149 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:08,080 page, we ended up in the same conversation thread and then you end up finding a group 150 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:11,060 that I started on Facebook off of that thread. 151 00:11:11,060 --> 00:11:15,640 You decide to meet a stranger in the middle of the park in Colorado. 152 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:21,520 We meet for 30 minutes and then we end up creating an entire podcast after, after hanging 153 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:26,480 out one time and we just naturally click on every single thing that we've been able to 154 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:28,360 put out into the world together. 155 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:33,360 It's just like so obvious with some people that the lack of effort you have to do to 156 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:39,080 like build foundation just points to the fact that it was so natural and meant to happen. 157 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:40,080 You know what I mean? 158 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:41,640 It just blows my mind. 159 00:11:41,640 --> 00:11:45,240 Like I have not been in that Facebook group since. 160 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:47,000 I know we just came for each other. 161 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:49,160 It was a quick, we really did like that. 162 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:54,080 We got what we needed and we knew that we had to be there for this reason. 163 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:57,120 We didn't know then, but now we know literally insane. 164 00:11:57,120 --> 00:11:59,360 And I've had so many moments like that. 165 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:04,280 Like even how I met Danny was like super, um, super wild. 166 00:12:04,280 --> 00:12:13,240 Just the fact that we both chose to go on this random video chat website in 2008 and 167 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:19,760 of all the millions of people on that webcam site, we like beat, we talked for three hours. 168 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:22,520 Danny makes a joke that he's going to marry me one day. 169 00:12:22,520 --> 00:12:27,600 And then we talked for six years as pen pals and then just end up one day and meeting in 170 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:30,780 person and just being like, Oh my God, I've literally known you. 171 00:12:30,780 --> 00:12:32,400 This is like so easy. 172 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:36,020 And I've had so many friendships that have come through that way, different romantic 173 00:12:36,020 --> 00:12:38,640 relationships that have come through that way. 174 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:45,880 And I couldn't believe more that I have not interacted with these souls in other lifetimes. 175 00:12:45,880 --> 00:12:46,880 Couldn't believe it. 176 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:47,880 Yeah. 177 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:48,880 Yeah, seriously. 178 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:49,880 It's like done, done. 179 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:55,480 I feel the same way about how Kyle and I met, like randomly chose to live, um, on the 18th 180 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:58,000 floor of this dorm at UMass. 181 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:00,040 And I started a Facebook group. 182 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:02,040 God, another Facebook group. 183 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:03,040 Facebook. 184 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:04,040 God, it's Facebook. 185 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:05,040 How I attract my soulmates. 186 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:06,040 God, I should probably. 187 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:07,040 Don't tell Mark. 188 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:08,040 No, I'm not. 189 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:09,040 I'm not going to tell Mark. 190 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:10,040 Yeah. 191 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:11,040 His ego does not need that. 192 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:12,040 We need him shut down. 193 00:13:12,040 --> 00:13:13,040 Yeah, seriously. 194 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:22,000 But yeah, I just, I started a little Facebook group and found Kyle was one of maybe three 195 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:25,960 people who joined out of, who was a male and I creeped him. 196 00:13:25,960 --> 00:13:27,320 I was like, Oh, he's cute. 197 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:28,800 And then met him. 198 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:31,920 We were next door neighbors of all places. 199 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:36,420 And there was a joke running like six months into even meeting each other that we were 200 00:13:36,420 --> 00:13:41,240 husband and wife just because we were close and like, yeah, same fricking thing. 201 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:43,280 Got married 10 years later. 202 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:44,280 Wild. 203 00:13:44,280 --> 00:13:45,680 Uh huh. 204 00:13:45,680 --> 00:13:46,680 And you know what? 205 00:13:46,680 --> 00:13:53,060 Like I, as you guys know, I'm very into astrology and I think astrology really points to this 206 00:13:53,060 --> 00:13:56,400 like kind of soul contract or soul blueprint rather. 207 00:13:56,400 --> 00:14:00,780 And like, you know, you can run your birth chart with other people's and there are so 208 00:14:00,780 --> 00:14:07,840 many factors that can kind of point to compatibility or even point to, yeah, past life stuff within 209 00:14:07,840 --> 00:14:10,480 astrology, which is so cool. 210 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:16,880 Like looking at if someone has like your sun sign is their moon sign, there can be like 211 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:18,480 really fun interactions. 212 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:24,440 If someone's like elements like sync up to you, like if your moon is in the same element 213 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:32,960 versus the same like, um, yeah, modality there is looking at like your North node, your North 214 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:36,320 node points to what your soul came here to master in this lifetime. 215 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:40,960 The sign it's in, if you attract a lot of people within that sign, that can be really 216 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:46,480 pointing to you're going towards the people that you're meant to focus on this life versus 217 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:47,480 the South node. 218 00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:52,080 If you have a bunch of people in that sign, that can kind of point to like, okay, I'm 219 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:56,040 going into kind of like old patterns and old habits. 220 00:14:56,040 --> 00:15:02,200 And I think it's also interesting, you know, where we are born points to a lot of things. 221 00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:07,400 Like I love astro cartography, which kind of, I was hoping you would bring this up. 222 00:15:07,400 --> 00:15:09,120 That's what I was just thinking about. 223 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:10,120 Yeah. 224 00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:14,240 So astro cartography is taking like your, your birth chart and basically creating actual 225 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:21,400 locations within the world that you're going to feel the energy of that planet a little 226 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:23,880 bit more intensified. 227 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:30,600 And this has so many cool things to like unpack, but it's wild because where we're born sometimes 228 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:34,840 is just not under any of these like amplified energies as much. 229 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:39,120 And sometimes it's so obvious that we're meant to go to certain places. 230 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:42,640 And for me, I didn't even know about astro cartography. 231 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:47,880 And I don't know if I've shared this on the podcast, but like the most wild thing, um, 232 00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:51,440 my Venus sign, Venus is the planet of love, right? 233 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:57,920 Goes right through the city that my husband, Danny was born, New London, Connecticut, just 234 00:15:57,920 --> 00:16:01,280 a random direct pull of that line. 235 00:16:01,280 --> 00:16:04,580 And Danny's Venus line goes right through Daytona beach. 236 00:16:04,580 --> 00:16:10,160 And he was living right under my Jupiter line, which is the planet of luck and fortune right 237 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:11,320 when we met. 238 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:14,440 So there's just like all these weird things. 239 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:19,800 I also have had a patient who was really into astrology, which was freaking great. 240 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:25,720 And she was just telling me that she felt this huge pool when she was in her forties, 241 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:30,720 she was married, she felt this really big pool to go to Ireland and she like couldn't 242 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:31,720 shake it. 243 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:35,720 She's like, we didn't have a lot of money, but I knew that I like needed to go. 244 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:41,200 And she told me she walked into this little church in the village there and her husband 245 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:42,200 didn't want to go. 246 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:47,640 So she stayed back and she said right when she walked in, she was just like flooded with 247 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:51,800 this like deja vu was shown a bunch of visions. 248 00:16:51,800 --> 00:16:56,360 And she said at that point, she completely knew that she needed to get a divorce. 249 00:16:56,360 --> 00:16:58,360 She needed to change her life path. 250 00:16:58,360 --> 00:16:59,680 She moved back home. 251 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:05,480 She went back home, flew back home, got a divorce, changed her complete trajectory of 252 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:08,140 her life from going under this energy. 253 00:17:08,140 --> 00:17:12,400 And then she was like, and years later, I learned astrology and I look at that town 254 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:17,200 in Ireland and I had like so many lines going through that exact point. 255 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:20,360 It's crazy because my soul like knew to go there. 256 00:17:20,360 --> 00:17:25,240 So it's even like this cool location thing and like where we go and when. 257 00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:30,760 So it just points to this intuitive, intuitive understanding that there is a deeper meaning 258 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:33,320 behind like everything, you know? 259 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:35,160 Yeah, 100%. 260 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:43,800 And on that note too, it's not the craziest thing to hear about people who haven't found 261 00:17:43,800 --> 00:17:48,120 that sense of deep love and connection in their lives, who are really into astrology, 262 00:17:48,120 --> 00:17:54,800 who will literally travel to their Venus line to where that crosses that seems appealing 263 00:17:54,800 --> 00:17:57,600 to them, that speaks to them looking for love. 264 00:17:57,600 --> 00:18:02,520 And they'll just kind of move there on a whim and just staying open to people who come their 265 00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:03,520 way. 266 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:05,280 Yeah, maybe a little tip. 267 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:08,360 Yeah, and I'll share one other cool like way that that presented. 268 00:18:08,360 --> 00:18:11,320 So my sister is a freelance artist. 269 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:14,120 She does like a lot of cool creative projects. 270 00:18:14,120 --> 00:18:20,920 She lives in Charlotte, North Carolina, but her planet of luck like is all the way in 271 00:18:20,920 --> 00:18:24,520 Seattle, like Oregon area going along that West coast. 272 00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:28,100 But that's where she gets like all her business from like a lot of times. 273 00:18:28,100 --> 00:18:31,760 So it's cool because it doesn't always necessarily mean we have to go there, but it can kind 274 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:37,120 of point to something just to look at as like another lens of like, okay, maybe there are 275 00:18:37,120 --> 00:18:42,720 like deeper signs and meanings behind my interactions and why and I've done this with so many friendships 276 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:47,300 and stuff just to see like how things can like potentially piece together. 277 00:18:47,300 --> 00:18:49,560 So I think astrology is one lens. 278 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:53,880 And another lens is yeah, maybe playing with like past life meditations or doing a cauchic 279 00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:58,640 record readings and seeing like how people have interacted with you and you might not 280 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:04,200 even necessarily need that extra validation because for some people like just looking 281 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:08,240 into their eyes and just that immediate like warmth and comfort. 282 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:13,700 It's so obvious that there has been something there before or deeper. 283 00:19:13,700 --> 00:19:18,280 And then I think if people are bringing up patterns that are keeping you small, it's 284 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:22,920 maybe worth noting that maybe that person came into your life to evolve you up to a 285 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:28,840 certain point and maybe it's time for some of those relationships to either shift or 286 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:29,840 morph. 287 00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:35,400 Yeah, I think sometimes we hold on to some relationships just for the sentiments of them 288 00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:37,880 being in our lives for so long. 289 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:43,080 But when the truth is you've outgrown that friendship or that person and keeping them 290 00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:47,520 in your life is keeping you small, as you said, and they're keeping you in old and green 291 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:52,720 patterns that are not allowing you to move forward on the path that you need. 292 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:58,600 So empowerment to pay attention to that and not just to hold on to someone or something 293 00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:04,120 out of comfort, but actually taking a moment to decide like, is this the person? 294 00:20:04,120 --> 00:20:05,640 Is this what I need right now? 295 00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:08,160 Or is this limiting me in any ways? 296 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:14,240 And we've done a cord cutting ceremony episode on this podcast, but I do think, you know, 297 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:20,160 I look back and I had I had like some friendships that came for certain periods and then we 298 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:24,160 cut off from certain periods and then they would pop back in for certain periods and 299 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:25,160 then not. 300 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:29,960 So I do think there's people that just can bring out different sides of you and just 301 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:35,560 staying intentional about, yeah, if this is helping for your involvement or if this is 302 00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:40,440 pulling you back to patterns that are actually not for your highest good. 303 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:45,000 And you can really deeply feel that not ignoring those things, because, yeah, the goal is 304 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:51,800 to continue to expand, to continue to find freedom, to continue to, yeah, contribute 305 00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:54,200 to connection, society, the world. 306 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:58,120 Like, you know, there's so many deeper meanings behind why we are here. 307 00:20:58,120 --> 00:21:03,200 And it's just important to note those things like my get a bump contract coming in hot, 308 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:06,720 you know, just to kind of shake things up. 309 00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:13,640 I feel like I think when you talked about the bump contract definition to like, I definitely 310 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:21,320 have had friendships like I had one friendship that lasted probably about seven years and 311 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:25,280 there was so much growth in that friendship that happened within that time frame. 312 00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:29,600 But we had a really like kind of traumatic end to our friendship. 313 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:31,440 It cut off very quick. 314 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:35,360 And then we just had zero communication for 10 years. 315 00:21:35,360 --> 00:21:40,360 And I recently had them just like pop back into my life and it only lasted for like three 316 00:21:40,360 --> 00:21:46,840 months, but it was crazy because when they came back into my life, it was like all this 317 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:49,320 stuff stirred up inside of me again. 318 00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:56,600 But it's I had so much of this like spiritual lens at this point to look into it and to 319 00:21:56,600 --> 00:21:59,240 kind of consider it through that lens. 320 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:05,880 And I think it helped me realize like, okay, yeah, I'm starting to that it was almost felt 321 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:06,880 like a little test. 322 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:12,400 It happened in the middle of my Saturn return that like, are you going to go back into this 323 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:18,080 pattern of like over giving and over, you know, extending yourself to the point where 324 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:20,000 you completely ignore your own needs? 325 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:26,200 Are you going to do that again within this or like, are you ready to like keep evolving? 326 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:27,960 And it was a very short lived thing. 327 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:32,200 And I think I got to practice boundaries that I had learned in a whole different way and 328 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:37,480 then communicate like I don't, you know, I don't normally attract this anymore. 329 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:42,640 Like I've been attracting people that really support me and honor my boundaries and don't 330 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:49,080 pull me back into the space that makes me feel like super guilty and little for doing 331 00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:53,200 things for myself, you know, and that was very clear that that friendship kind of like 332 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:57,280 circled back around almost just to remind me of that. 333 00:22:57,280 --> 00:22:59,300 And it felt like super sacred at that time. 334 00:22:59,300 --> 00:23:02,760 Have you had some of those like little experiences to cap? 335 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:03,880 Oh my gosh, yes. 336 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:08,240 And I think that's so that is like the perfect example of a bump contract. 337 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:13,480 Just like takes you out of your routine, shakes you up a little bit, and it's kind of a test. 338 00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:18,520 So one that really comes to mind for me was my relationship at high school. 339 00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:21,140 It was three years. 340 00:23:21,140 --> 00:23:23,600 It went on way longer than it should have. 341 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:28,960 But then again, like, who am I to question the contract of this person who has put my 342 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:35,400 life because now I'm able to look back and see all of the lessons and how I'm so grateful 343 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:40,920 that happened in my life when it did, because like, I'll be honest, it was the hardest time 344 00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:41,920 in my life. 345 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:44,160 It was so shitty. 346 00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:45,840 Like there was a lot of abuse. 347 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:50,000 There was mental, emotional, a little bit of physical. 348 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:54,480 And so I think it can be really difficult. 349 00:23:54,480 --> 00:24:00,400 And it might feel even wrong to look back on someone like that as kind of a lesson. 350 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:07,160 But now that I'm removed from it, like 20 plus years removed from it, I can look back 351 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:16,000 and be like, oh my gosh, I, the person I was before this guy and the person I was after 352 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:20,160 this guy were very different people. 353 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:26,120 And I'm grateful for it because it taught me so much about who I wanted to be, what 354 00:24:26,120 --> 00:24:30,640 was important to me, what I did not want to do to people. 355 00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:34,440 Because like, just to give you an idea, I was friends with this girl. 356 00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:41,420 She was dating this guy and I got with the guy and totally like screwed this girl over. 357 00:24:41,420 --> 00:24:45,240 And so not one of my proud moments. 358 00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:52,880 But I learned so much about myself and all of the events that happened because of my 359 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:54,800 choices and decisions. 360 00:24:54,800 --> 00:25:00,040 And then how I felt like I was the problem and then I was the victim. 361 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:05,040 And then just so many different ways to look at each situation that happened. 362 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:10,760 Yeah, just tons of transformation happened from these bump contracts. 363 00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:15,400 And I think in hindsight, it's a lot easier to look at things from a distance when you're 364 00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:16,400 in it. 365 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:21,000 I think just giving yourself grace of like, okay, what the hell is happening with this 366 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:25,520 person who just came into my life and turned everything on its head? 367 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:32,360 But even being able to take a couple steps back and breathing and yeah, I think just 368 00:25:32,360 --> 00:25:37,200 yeah, just taking it for what it is and then being able to reevaluate a little bit down 369 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:38,200 the line. 370 00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:45,480 I think a good journaling prompts to all this stuff is what did this situation or relationship 371 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:52,140 like awaken me to that I didn't really have like visible and present before this? 372 00:25:52,140 --> 00:25:57,440 And I do think yeah, it's a touchy conversation in a lot of ways. 373 00:25:57,440 --> 00:26:02,080 I think for those who believe in soul contracts, it can make a lot of sense. 374 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:06,480 But I think it's, you know, there's obviously really, really tough situations we can go 375 00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:12,480 through individually and to think that that was something that we would have agreed to 376 00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:16,840 can feel, you know, really intense and really crazy. 377 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:25,160 But I do think that there is, you know, some validity to even the hardest situations putting 378 00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:29,040 us on a completely different path than when we would be otherwise. 379 00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:37,520 I think to my DUI, right, that was awful and terrible and cost me twenty six thousand dollars. 380 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:40,960 I literally could have died that night. 381 00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:42,800 It was awful. 382 00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:47,680 And there was so many like steps, like new friendships that came in that led to that 383 00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:53,720 partying phase of my life being like really like turned up and like all these people that 384 00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:57,440 just dropped me after something really bad happened to me. 385 00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:03,200 But so much of that, like it changed the way I interacted with society. 386 00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:11,360 It led to me being in like alcoholic anonymous groups and interacting with people like through 387 00:27:11,360 --> 00:27:13,200 public transportation. 388 00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:18,480 It completely changed the way I viewed so many different levels of society. 389 00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:22,320 It like woken me up to like my humanitarian side. 390 00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:30,080 I feel like I was completely catapulted into a different reality because of what would 391 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:35,440 have been like one of the worst things that ever happened in my life. 392 00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:40,640 And yeah, I think as you said, Kat, it's really hard to like view that as it's happening. 393 00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:46,920 But if you do subscribe to the belief that everything is just for this deeper soul growth 394 00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:53,880 and that this one lifetime is just a little sliver of like this really greater thing that 395 00:27:53,880 --> 00:28:01,240 is happening for all of us and also how we connect together, I think you can find like 396 00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:04,040 a different perspective within that. 397 00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:09,400 And even the perspective of having to view something, it doesn't have to necessarily 398 00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:15,880 be through the lens of like forgiveness, but even just finding a way to see it through 399 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:20,280 a, okay, maybe this was for something deeper that I will never know. 400 00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:24,520 It can also help you unattached to it and heal in different ways as well. 401 00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:26,520 Yeah, I love that. 402 00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:33,200 And so when you're thinking about the person who you want to be, the person that you love 403 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:38,000 when all of your best qualities are heightened, taking a look at the people in your life and 404 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:43,960 really asking yourself like, okay, do these like which of these people aligns with where 405 00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:45,280 I'm going? 406 00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:47,440 And which of these people maybe don't? 407 00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:53,720 And being really honest with yourself and deciding maybe it is time to end a relationship. 408 00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:59,040 It could be as simple as like an acquaintance or a coworker setting some boundaries, or 409 00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:07,640 it could be as big as a romantic partner and deciding to uncouple and having a real intention 410 00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:09,640 around that too. 411 00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:11,600 You get to decide really. 412 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:12,600 Yeah. 413 00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:18,680 And I love this as far as even just the people listening to this episode. 414 00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:23,080 There's a reason we all kind of came together even for this conversation in this space for 415 00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:27,360 you to hear this episode and for me and Kat to be able to share this information with 416 00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:28,360 you. 417 00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:33,680 I think there's the lens to look at it through what needs to fall away, but also remembering 418 00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:39,360 the gratitude lens of like how beautiful is it that you are in this space at this exact 419 00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:40,360 moment? 420 00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:45,440 And like hearing this with us and the steps that it takes, the people that have just a 421 00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:53,240 little influence to keep you conscious, keep you exploring other sides of yourself. 422 00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:59,440 There's so many interactions that you go through each and every day that hold this significance. 423 00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:04,800 And when you look around and view it through that, it just makes you feel just like everything 424 00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:06,360 is the way it's meant to be. 425 00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:10,200 It's a gratitude practice to look around and see that even just the people you're passing 426 00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:12,680 on the streets, like it's freaking crazy. 427 00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:13,840 You're passing them on the street. 428 00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:17,640 Look at like where you were born and then this is happening right then. 429 00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:21,200 Every single thing is special and I love to view life that way. 430 00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:22,200 Yeah. 431 00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:26,160 So we are all here in this moment and it's a gift. 432 00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:29,880 And I think that the gratitude lens is the right way to look at it. 433 00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:33,000 It's just the best way to find that peace. 434 00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:36,360 And we are not meant to be isolated beings. 435 00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:41,440 Because one thing I'm sure of in this life, it's that we are all here to awaken together. 436 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:42,440 Oh, so good. 437 00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:43,440 So does a tagline. 438 00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:44,440 Oh. 439 00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:45,440 Well, we... 440 00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:54,400 Oh, so if you're interested in astral cartography, Jen, again, does amazing birth chart readings. 441 00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:59,400 Jen, do you have any good recommendations for astral cartography and where we can find 442 00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:00,400 it? 443 00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:04,200 Yeah, honestly, if you just type it into Google, the first couple things that'll pop up are 444 00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:06,320 really cool to look at it. 445 00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:09,180 It's definitely its own deep dive on its own. 446 00:31:09,180 --> 00:31:10,180 It's going to look really crazy. 447 00:31:10,180 --> 00:31:12,920 You're going to see this map with like a million lines on it. 448 00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:16,060 But if you click on each line, it'll give you a little bubble. 449 00:31:16,060 --> 00:31:19,020 But it also is connected to your own personal birth chart. 450 00:31:19,020 --> 00:31:23,040 So looking at kind of the elements within that is important as well. 451 00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:24,320 It's kind of its own depth. 452 00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:30,080 I know there's definitely readers that specialize particularly in astral cartography. 453 00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:34,080 But yeah, I think it's just a really cool tool just for fun to play. 454 00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:37,040 And I always recommend the pattern app. 455 00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:38,300 I love that app. 456 00:31:38,300 --> 00:31:43,040 And you can just type in, you can do custom profiles or have you and your loved ones or 457 00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:48,480 friends like put in their birth chart information and you can run your bonds on the pattern. 458 00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:51,360 It's really fun to see how different birth charts interact. 459 00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:57,640 I also know websites like Astro Cafe does compatibility charts. 460 00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:03,320 So you can search like astrology compatibility reports and you can pull up just like how 461 00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:05,360 you interact with different people. 462 00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:09,640 So if you want to view it through the lens of astrology, we also have had Jen Hoffman 463 00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:13,040 on here who does Akashic Record readings. 464 00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:19,240 And Akashic Record readings definitely can help you see visions of past lives and maybe 465 00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:21,560 how you interacted with people before. 466 00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:26,500 Or you can just go on YouTube and search past life regression meditations and see if maybe 467 00:32:26,500 --> 00:32:28,720 something is shown to you through that way too. 468 00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:33,480 If you want to do it a nice, cheap and fun way and see how it goes. 469 00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:35,280 Yes there are so many tools out there. 470 00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:41,040 So we hope that this gives you that excitement and an idea of where you want to further your 471 00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:42,040 own knowledge. 472 00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:44,360 So let us know if you have any questions. 473 00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:48,600 We love hearing from you all and we'll see you all next time. 474 00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:49,600 Thanks for being my soulmate Kat. 475 00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:50,600 Love you Jen. 476 00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:51,600 Thank you. 477 00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:52,600 Bye. 478 00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:59,440 Bye.