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Hello everyone and welcome to the Awaken Together podcast. I am Jen and today we have a guest

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that I am so freaking excited about. It feels cosmic. It feels aligned. Shantay is someone

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I found on TikTok in 2020. This is in the height of the pandemic when I feel like we

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were all so desperately seeking out connection and this like really weird thing happened

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on the TikTok space where I feel like the community, the spiritual community kind of

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found each other and it was like powerful and magical and all the things. And I just

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remember going to Shantay's page, watching so many videos, loving her energy and signing

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up for her 1111 event. And here we are years later getting to interview Shantay for this

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podcast on 1111. I freaking love it. Shantay describes herself as a galactic psychic.

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She is trauma informed, comes from a yoga background and her personal story just provides

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so much incredible insight on how mind, body and spirit piece together. So with that being

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said, welcome Shantay. Hi, I'm so grateful to be here. And April 1111. My birthday is

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tomorrow. My birthday is the 12th. Wow. I didn't know that makes it even more aligned.

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I love it. So Shantay, I love for you just to start off just sharing your story. It's

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been so fun to watch on TikTok. Just what you've gone through. I love your authenticity.

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I love you sharing all of your story so openly. And yeah, I've watched you evolve even in

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the couple years I've been following you. So I'd love just to hear some pieces of your

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journey. Pieces of my journey. Thank you. 2020. What an adventure. Right. TikTok. What

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an adventure. TikTok is my favorite dimensional, literal dimensional space to get to play with

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people. I think it's a dimensional space that demands authenticity that is asking to see

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inside people's bathrooms when they're talking to themselves or when you're like, you know,

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alone in your backyard. It becomes a place for those like thoughts and feelings that

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you didn't know where to put otherwise to go out. And yeah, it's really cool. I'm a

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big fan of the TikTok. Absolutely. So much more. Yeah. And I've been so I've been actively

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working on social media for a decade, which is like, was that still there? Like I was at work

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as an office manager in a wellness company when I'm finishing my bachelor's in communication,

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when I got the email at my desk for Facebook pages. And it was like, Facebook pages are

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launching this new thing. And I went in to my boss's office and was like, Hey, like,

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here's this thing. I don't know what it is. But like, something's important here. Can I

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have time to do this? Um, she was like, yeah. And I remember this like feeling in my body,

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like, what is this? And so I've been playing on the virtual space for a really long time.

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And I started more intentionally personally in the virtual space in 2013. I was in my final

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semester of college and I had petitioned and was taking 25 credits to finish my degree.

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Cause my best friend was graduating and I didn't know how I would get my film certification without

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him because he did all the production stuff. And I started a fashion blog and it was this place of

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just like, I knew I needed the accountability to not wear sweats every day or I was going to get

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depressed at that point. I was very much in like active addiction, a high functioning,

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active alcoholic, uh, not really in sort of any consciousness awareness thoughts whatsoever,

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living for the weekend, living for, you know, like ladies night at the bar. And I knew that like,

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I needed some level of accountability and connection or I wasn't going to make it.

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Uh, and it became this place that naturally turned into me, like authentically sharing

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because I had so little time to process that it became a processing place. Um, which was very

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rare back in 2013. And then, uh, I actually left my corporate job with beach body. I became a beach

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body coach, which like drills into you to share everything, but it also drills into you this like

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highlight reel thing, right? Um, and I was very good at it. And, uh, I was also very good at the

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highlight reel and very good at, I grew up in a house. It was a high functioning alcoholic house

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with parents who are like really influential in the community. And so everything was about this,

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like showing of perfection and like, how can you make what you have not only work for you,

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but like, look like a prettier, shinier version that like, you can handle everything. Um,

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and so I was like showing, planning my wedding online and like all of this stuff. And then, uh,

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called my wedding off. My spiritual awakening was a kick to the teeth. Like I did not have like a

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wake up process. Uh, I went to a yoga class on September 9th in 2014 was I had a hand print

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bruise around my throat from my fiance the night before that was not consensual, um, that I wouldn't

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even be able to process to like months later that that's what that was. Uh, but I went to a yoga

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class and was gifted a card in the yoga class. Um, and because of it called my wedding off,

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um, an hour later after the yoga class and like in the process kind of erased everything I had

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in my life at that point. And the only thing I had left was like my intuition and myself. Uh,

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if you call for wedding two weeks before your wedding date, you still get a wedding. Um,

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because everything was paid for to my family, tried to turn it into their construction company,

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Christmas party. Um, they had rented out an entire resort for two days. Like it was a

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a clusterfuck. Wow. And at the same time, it was the most freedom I had ever experienced

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that I was just like, it's all out there. And I put it all out on the internet that like,

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I recorded a video and posted on YouTube about calling my wedding off. Cause I knew if I didn't

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have that level of accountability, I would go back. Um, and I bought the, I no longer trusted

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my decision making process. And so I bought the card deck that I'd been pulled a card from in the

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in the yoga class. Uh, and the woman who pulled the card afterwards, uh, offered me an energy work

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session. And if it had been 12 hours before that, I would have said that energy work was bullshit.

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Yeah. Um, that I was like, okay. Um, but she said, can I give you an energy work session? And I'm

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like this sobbing, snotting mess on the floor saying I'm calling off my wedding. And I'm like,

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yeah, whatever. And she took me across the street and did, um, an hour of energy work on me. And I

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just remember like physically feeling so much. And then we got done and I didn't know this woman's

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name. And she told me everything about myself. I thought I'd hidden my entire life and nobody knew

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about how much I'd been sacrificing myself and compromising who I was just to try and make things

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work and like make things shiny and pretty enough that it would make it all okay. And like

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this whole thing. Uh, and so I left, called off my wedding, bought the card deck, started

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drawing cards when it came to any decision and then doing what felt good based on the card.

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Um, which was great because then when things didn't work out, it wasn't my responsibility.

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It was just the card and it was part of the process. It wasn't mine anymore. Um, and just went on this

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like wild follow my intuition adventure. Um, and it turned out really, really well. Um, I was married

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to someone I'd been known for 10 years before that, like all this stuff happened. Um, and, but it was

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kind of this breakdown of like any bullshit on the internet specifically. And it was just like, here

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it all is and you either like me or you don't. And I don't like anybody, but like five people in my

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normal life anyway. So like, fuck it. Who cares? Uh, in 2016, when I was pregnant with my first son

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is when, um, my senses started really coming back. It's also a year into sobriety for me. I got sober

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at that same time. I called off my wedding. Um, and so much of my using and drinking specifically

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was to tone things down for me. So I'm Claire cognizant, Claire, Audient, Claire sentient and

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Claire voyant. And I physically see, and I physically hear, um, the first time I saw a monster,

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I was four years old and it was my father's uncle who had abused him. And they kept me awake for

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24 hours and had my brain scanned, uh, after I like freaked out and everything kind of shut down for

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me. Um, and so when I got pregnant, my first son, uh, senses started coming back. And then, um, that's

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when I started doing energy work, um, in 2016 and like reading not so much energy work, but I started

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doing intuitive work professionally. And then in 2018, when I was pregnant with my second son,

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that same woman who gifted me the yoga, uh, the class, um, card in the yoga class and the energy

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session, uh, has been like present throughout my entire experience, um, as like a mentor and more

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so as an elder, like the very ancient way that awakening traditionally happened, that you had an

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elder that supported you and mentored you through the whole process. I have really like been in

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alignment and like blessed with the gift to have that. Um, and so I was pregnant with my second son

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in 2018 and, uh, he wasn't contracted to come here before that. And he was kind of a drop in that came

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in after some shit went down in 2016. I think we're all aware of what went down in 2016. Um,

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um, and it's through, I was in like full on spiritual psychosis and, um, I knew what was

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happening to me. And so the way that I would define that is like unintentionally, um, timeline

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hopping, um, and being present in multi-dimensional spaces at one time, uh, without any control to it

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and without any, um, even the skills I had for grounding, like what was happening to me, what I

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was so far out of body and so like without the grasp to be able to like be in my body because

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of my pregnancy and what I was experiencing, um, that even though I knew what was happening was

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fucking terrifying and I was six weeks postpartum when, uh, I did 35 days of inpatient mental health

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care treatment, uh, and through just like divine magic alignment and Archangel Michael literally

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like following me the entire way to get there. Um, I met six people in a row, all named Michael,

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which is my son's middle name, um, ended up in a treatment facility that supported me, a traditional

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facility that supported me through psychic awakening. Um, and I was able to in a clear

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and concise and grounded way, be able to an educated way, be able to advocate for myself

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to get that kind of treatment and to work with my therapist, um, who was also the clinical director

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to build a program that addressed me as a full spectrum human being. So yes, I'm having a mental

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health crisis. Yes. I'm experiencing PTSD dissociation. Yes. I physically have a lot of sickness going on.

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And yes, what does that mean spiritually? And that if you don't address all three, like healing is

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not stable, sustainable or long-term unless you're handling it full spectrum. I'm so glad you said

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that. Yeah. And, uh, Peter Levine's waking the tiger process is what we worked from. Um, and

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somatic experiencing that's now getting all this attention to validity is incredible. And it's still

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only two of the process because spiritual, uh, the far side of the spectrum being shamanic soul

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retrieval is what he specifically talks about in that profit process, um, is still like two out there.

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Um, but what happens is we now have all these people doing somatic experiencing coming from

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like the mental emotional level, and then it's going to help to kick people into awakening,

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but then not support them and process it after it's doing that. Yeah. Yeah. Um, I learned how to

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come grounded through that process and like through tools and everything that I, um, was able to learn.

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I learned how to be grounded and be present and maintain linear time. Um, and at this point,

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having learned how to be present and be embodied and have a relationship with body that's built

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on trust. Um, now I spend probably honestly, like 30 to 40% of my time also functioning astral without

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losing out on the presence of my current time and the presence of being human and knowing that I'm

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here to be human, that I'm not being astral to escape being human. I'm being astral to like

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expand on my spirits and being human and to better understand why I am human, um, and to participate

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being here and like in the timeline that's of the greatest good of all. That's also something I'm

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really fucking over white conversations happening that I've yet to deconstruct what whiteness means

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and what this kind of separation means and what it means about spirituality to like your highest

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timeline, your highest timeline isn't necessarily in alignment with the greatest good of all.

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If you're focusing on just you. Um, yes, so many good things. Yeah. Everything I teach is about

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full spectrum healing that if we're working together by default, we will always talk about therapy.

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Um, and somatic experiencing everything I teach is about collective responsibility

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and what it means to be a part of the greater whole and to participate in alignment with that.

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And also about spiritual activism, which is when we heal ourselves on that level, it is making a

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significant change. Um, and what does it mean to be a part of a village and to be healing that?

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Because I think the answer to everything is us coming back to village.

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Oh my gosh. So many beautiful parts of your story. Oh my gosh. I could go on and on.

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Um, I absolutely love, first of all, thank you for all of that. Um, it's, I think even just

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hearing your story, there's just so many, so many truths to be pulled out of that that are

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huge for people to be able to connect and realize like what this is and what we are a part of,

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which is absolutely beautiful. Um, I too came, I had a lot of my awakening happen

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and start from yoga. I also got like kicked in the ass to have my first spiritual awakening

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in 2015, like really strong. Um, and yeah, you're the same thing that happened, just being in a

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place where I would have really not been receptive to energy work. It kind of fell at a time when

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I had just already been blown away by so many things that I was a little more soft on approaching

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it. I guess being like open-minded to it. I think the, the fact that you brought up that this kind

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of all happens in waves. And even, I think sometimes with social media, we can get this

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picture painted that you almost have like a spiritual awakening. And I think people talk

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about having multiple, but I don't think sometimes the picture is painted on how much struggle can

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happen even after an initial awakening. So it's always felt really authentic and really real to

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hear you share some of the stuff that has still happened, even being immersed in the spiritual space.

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Cause I think that's huge that this is something that we're all kind of experiencing and plugging

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in together into. And it's not something where we're going to have a full checklist of answers or

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what it's supposed to look like. It's personal, but also collective in so many ways. And I think

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it's really beautiful to share the little pieces that come that it doesn't just end up being easy,

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that there's so many things to like unwind. And even when you feel really connected and alive,

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it's very real that you can also get lost and kind of another space and be so disconnected from

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your own body. And so I've come at my spirituality, so body focused because of my physical therapy

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training, but also seeing so many people suffering physical pain and then so much difficulty

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identifying with their body and being told the narrative that the system pushes that you are

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sick in that, yeah, this is something that needs to get better. And like you said, I feel like half

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the reason we can start numbing and drowning things out with substances or other forms of escapism is

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because we're really feeling a lot and we're so scared of that feeling. And when we're not learning

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how to work with that and respond to that appropriately, it can feel just extremely

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disorientating. So I think for me in the physical therapy world, I kept seeing patients that were

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having like just, it was, it was needing to be looked at from so many other angles than just the

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physical body, as you said, and our system just does not encompass everything. And I think even

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people that go into spiritual spaces, some things can sound too out there and that there can be

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boxes even formed around spirituality that don't allow for curiosity and I guess kind of intuitive

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guidance to be helping you through things. It can also, the ego can just come in and start

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re-boxing in spiritual concepts as well. I would love to hear you share about what the astral field

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kind of means for you and the astral world. So kind of that combination of both feeling into the

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space that's all around us all the time, but also kind of how that looks in parallel to staying

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inside of your body and really connecting with your physical form. Yeah, absolutely.

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Oh, body. So as you're speaking, something that's really, oh, body. Body's currently going through,

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so we spoke about it before we started recording, but body's currently going through a whole lot

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right now. I'm waiting for a medically necessary hysterectomy. My body's rejecting a tooth implant.

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I have three root canal teeth that are asking to get taken out and body's just been yelling for

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a while. Body also has Ehlers-Danlos syndrome, which is a hypermobility condition.

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And so I'm something really, really big for me as a body that deals with, the best way I describe

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dealing with like, I don't really like the phrasing chronic pain. It doesn't feel like,

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it doesn't feel good to say it in my body. And to validate the experience I have with body is that

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I'm always in some level of healing a sports injury and I can get what would typically be like

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a gnarly sports injury for an athlete on the field. I can get walking down the street and my kid

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nudging my knee wrong. And so something that's been really big in, this is not answering your

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astral question. And I love it. It's so big for me is that I am not body, body. And I say body with

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a capital B. So I'm not body. Body is where I get to live. Body is like my spaceship and my vessel

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that I get to experience the world in. And coming to this place of like, instead of like being angry

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at body, as though it is part of me, it's so much easier to be rude to ourselves and be mean to

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ourselves versus body's not me. And body lets me live here. And it is only because of body that

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like, holy shit, I get to stay and be human right now, which is like both terrible and frightening

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and also the most incredible time to be alive. Like the most incredible time to be alive. And I

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a hundred percent feel that. And I have active memories for like a millennia that it is so cool

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to be alive right now. And so my body's name is the Millennium Falcon. Her wiring, sometimes a

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little shoddy. People would argue and say some things about her. And she always gets us everywhere

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we need to go. Yeah. What term feels best for you in correlation with trying, not that we should

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even have to describe our pain, the way we have to with this like medical, you know, kind of outline

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that we have to somewhat plug into in the society. What feels good for you in describing some of the

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physical symptoms you feel. Yeah. In both kind of, in kind of encompassing all the different

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perspectives and worlds. Different experiences and protections I feel if when I can get onto how I

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learned how to like have a relationship with body was on a yoga mat. Yeah. And I grew up as an elite

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athlete. I started competing in dance when I was 11. So I'm also coming, let us acknowledge, I'm

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also coming from a place of like deep privilege in this relationship with body. Cause my parents

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over the course of my 10 year dance career, easily put 20 to 30 grand into it. Like there was like

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hundreds of dollars a month going out to dance. Right. Even yoga, like I had was offered a scholarship

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to yoga school. And it's only cause of the time I had for my husband's job. Like there's so much

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privilege in this conversation. And being somebody who is disabled, I do identify as disabled yet.

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I don't look that way. And how much privilege there is in that. I would say my experience with

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body is on a mat. And my rule is that I just had to stay on my mat and that still lands for me

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sometimes. And I can get to this place where it just becomes this like, it stops being something

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I'm experiencing or feeling and just turns into this like, wow, wow, wow. Like this overabundance

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of energy. An EDS body moves more energy than a physical body. The way I describe it is having

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a physical body is like running cable internet where running any EDS body is like running fiber

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internet. And EDS body is capable of astroprojecting further than a typical body. And like by a great

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amount further than a typical body. Most of my neurodivergent spectrum clients that also have

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more of a hypermobile moving body are also most of my intuitive, it's like very spiritual links.

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And so there's definitely these labels that I feel like can add to the narrative that you are

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less than in your body or dysfunctioning when I don't think our baseline of how humans should

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even be moving and functioning is correct. So I hate that look like it's functioning less when a

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body that needs more time for rest and concentration and awareness and coordination practice and play.

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I think all of that is beautiful. But when we wrap it into kind of the pain narrative,

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I think it can get tricky. So how do you navigate pain as a thought?

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population and a lot of my clientele I hold intensive healing retreats comes also with body

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with body compromising things with pain and compromising things. We rate things the hospital

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scale doesn't fucking work. So we rate things in my space on a one to 10 for mental emotional. So

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10 being best day of your life. One being you want to die. Five is neutral. We rate there. I'm always

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just trying to, I try to sit at a six because if you swing into like 10 category or a nine category,

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you have to swing back the other way, right? The pendulum has to settle. So my goal every day is

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to hit at like a six mentally, emotionally. And then I do body scale on a color scale. There's

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more to the color scale. We've actually got this, our free offering is this bandwidth tracker that

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we've created for the people that I'm working with. And we do body on a color scale. So green being

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neutral and then moving into pain experience, it's yellow, orange, red, and black. Black being when

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you would go to the hospital. And just because you're in black doesn't mean you're going to the

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hospital because we're in America, right? Cause going to the hospital is its own trauma and his

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own majorly taxing experience that you may not have the capacity or bandwidth for and you may

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not get support, but it's being able to rate that like, Oh, this is where I'm at and how long am I

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willing to be there before I seek some sort of other support or help. And the color scale is

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really nice that one of my clients, what she said is she goes, I'm still dealing with the same

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shit I was before, only now it feels like I'm on a candy land board. And I, and I feel like that

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today is a day where I spent three hours crying this morning between like a pre-op appointment

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stuff, just like, I'm just so tired of being in so much pain. And for the most part with the color

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scale and with the years in I am now, and I had to re, I had to relearn how to walk after my second

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son. And I had to teach myself because I wasn't in a situation to be able to drive myself with two

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babies to physical therapy, you know, um, that for the most part, I'd say I'm able to stay fairly

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neutral with it. And I've built my life around being able to support what you said, which is

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like, instead of working and considering my body or my bandwidth and capacity and mental illness,

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I have a diagnosis for PTSD. Um, I've depression is a big part of my past story and ADHD diagnosis

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for anxiety disorder, like all this shit. I've built my business around those things to support

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them and to be a part of my business instead of the opposite. And so I do have a lot of

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space and freedom to be able to like give myself what I need in those spaces.

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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Very, very, very intentional. And currently what I'm working with so many

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specifically energetic and conscious entrepreneurs on is like, how do you do that?

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Absolutely. And it's so, so freaking needed. And it, yeah, I could get, um, very passionately upset

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and rant about the, yeah, how the system keeps phasing out certain bodies and the irritation

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behind that. But, um, yeah, it's, I think it's absolutely beautiful to learn what is working

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for you and your body and play with a lot of concepts and hopefully healers and other people

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and kind of this, like this space that's looking at things from multiple perspectives can be

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advocating and showing variations and options that not everyone even has access to be able to see and

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share. That's why I share half the content I do, um, is just to help give perspective. So you have

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tools to just play because a lot of it is like so much trial and error that you're not going to

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ever have someone just be able to spit a full answer out at you. It's developing a relationship

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to your body, um, which is relationships are not freaking easy and neither is that one. And it's

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ebbing and flowing constantly. And yeah, as you said, there's an individual experience and a

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collective experience at play as well. And the collective picture that we have been, um, kind of

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made to believe is not accurate. And so therefore the comparison minds can come in and really

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self-sabotage a lot of what I believe is really beautiful and real and fucking valid. Um, so

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side note on that, but I would love to hear. So this can very well tie in with the astral,

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because I'm curious, you know, I think I would love to hear you talk about dissociating, but I

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also think that when your body is hurting so much, what, what do you find as the guidelines between

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imagining something different versus being aware so that there is this connectedness, you know,

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does that make sense? Yeah. Um, you had said, uh, so about the color thing. So I talked about,

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I wake up and I, my first check-in is where am I on the color scale? I, I don't know the last time

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I had a green day, it being a neutral day. Um, and so I'm always in some variation of yellow, orange,

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red, and wherever I am in that color is just neutral. And then we check in on our one to 10.

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If I'm under a five, my only job is to get above the five because five is neutral. Right. Um,

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and this idea of like, imagining something different, I think can get really dangerous.

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in my DNA. It's a connective tissue condition. And it's something I believe I have to a forced

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connection with other people. Um, my husband and I traveled full time for 18 months and a regular

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thing is it's really hard for me to open tops on bottles. Um, and the intimacy to ask a stranger

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to open a water bottle. I love that. That's a good perspective breaks things down. And so I don't

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find it helpful. And it's not something I teach on like imagining something different. I'm also kind

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of against the idea of like quantum leaping, like to fucking where to where, right? Like, and is it

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just only for your highest good because you shifting out of shit for everybody can mess everybody up.

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Um, and so, I mean, dissociation, let's go back to the defining astral. Yeah. I would define

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astral as anything, not our tangible current 3d reality. Okay. Um, I would define astral projection

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of the act of your awareness or your consciousness, leaving body into the astral realm,

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whether it's intentional or not. So that meaning dissociation is unintentional astral travel.

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So dissociation is unintentionally leaving your body by default. If you are leaving your body,

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you are going astral, right? And so doing so unintentionally, it's very common to be in a

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place of intense pain or things and to be disembodied, which can be that you can be astral.

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Like I'm doing quotation marks. You can't see you can be astral. I meet so many people who function

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with, um, chronic pain. I work on a lot of people with eds who will be driving, I call it driving

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your bus, who will be driving their bus from like two or three feet out of their body that like,

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you're not really astral, but you're also not in body. You're just like in this like empty liminal

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space driving your body around. But then everything is like, everything's kind of like shoddy,

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whether or not it's online, everything's dealing with static because your system's not intended

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to function that way. And so, um, I'm a big proponent of being in body and letting yourself

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experience whatever pain to be with a practice of finding a place to like giving it sensation,

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finding a place to giving it room to be and to breathe. Cause the other thing that I do know,

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not question, not have an idea about, like I know is that if we acknowledge and see and give the

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pain in our body, what it's asking for, the pain can shift. That doesn't mean it's going to shift

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to go away. Yeah. But it can shift and it can shift into something different. I love this. Yes.

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And yeah, I think, um, talking about some of the mental health, like combination here,

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you know, dissociating is really wanting to kind of, it happens from being very, very checked out.

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I think a lot of the starting practices that I had to do to really feel, um, yeah, I was,

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I was suffering like a lot of pain, both mentally and physically. I also, uh, in like very borderline,

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lots of hypermobility. That's why this is my passion is talking about the physical component

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to it, but I was escaping, you know, as often as possible. And I think just the practice of

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integrating what I truly was feeling and not being scared of the sensations of feeling things as

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powerfully as I can, which is now a full awareness of what my gifts are and how I help clients all

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the time. I think a lot of our sensitivities can point to what some of our greatest strengths are.

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And when they constantly get written off as this narrative, because it quote unquote, like puts you

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physically behind what you think an expectation is supposed to be. Of course that narrative can get

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like loud and ugly and, but it's, it's so neat and powerful that you had someone come in at such a

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pivotal moment in your own life story to kind of validate these mental, these, what would seemingly

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be mental illness experience saying, it's still not great. We want to find a shift from this, but

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also not making you think that something is wrong with you, which I think is just a constant narrative

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I'm seeing in clients and people that yeah, are seemingly seeming like they're on the outskirts

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when reality, I think they're close closer to a bigger strength and gift to be able to help shift

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a lot of the collective and people around them. So what would you say some of the advice that you

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would suggest for starting out just be becoming more connected to a body that physically does

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struggle with some of the things in the society we live in?

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Whenever anybody talks about this, the first thing that comes to mind is about how regularly we use

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the phrase of I'm not crazy. Yeah. And when I was in, so before I ended up in prison,

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before I ended up in treatment, they dropped me into a psych ward detox facility to be sure I

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wasn't on drugs and did my psyche about like three in the morning. I've left my newborn baby for the

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first time, just like this whole wild experience, right? Of like, how is any of this ethical?

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And I sat down and wrote myself a letter about how sane I was. I'm not crazy. I'm sane.

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And I know this stuff and I know this stuff about me and I knew that other things were wrong,

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but like I'm sane and I know this is real. And another big component to I know major for me

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personally and has kind of become the foundation of the work that I do is about energetic boundaries

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and like foundational energetic boundaries. And so that would be my first advice is like,

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what is your practice with foundational energetic boundaries? And shielding is not the same as

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energetic boundaries. Shielding is like me walking out of the house into the snow,

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being sure that I have like a coat and a scarf and a hat and all of this stuff on,

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because I'm going outside into the elements. Foundational energetic boundaries is the fact

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that I have a house that protects me from the elements. And so many people at this time

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at this point, especially generationally and I work energy work. I work on the inside of

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somebody's body. I work on how a system moves energy and how a system processes things,

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both physically and astrally. I do a lot of like body upgrades. I do energetic brain surgery.

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really strong clairsentience. And then they're just taking and processing other people's

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stuff without knowing how to get it out of their body. And foundational energetic

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boundaries can really change that. And I work with people on healing the empath story,

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which is by definition, energetic codependency. And so that's where I would say that's always

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my advice on where to start. And then some sort of like joyful practice with body. For me, that's

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dance. For me, that's yoga. For me, that's like breath work. But that can also be fitness. My

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husband walks like seven miles a day swimming, like just some sort of something in physical

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relationship with your body to where you can enjoy being with body. And nobody can decide or tell

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you what to do, but you get to play with that. But if you're not at any point in your life enjoying

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being in body, like what's the point? And you can be in intense, terrible physical pain and still

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find ways to enjoy being in body period. Like I disagree that there's any argument against that.

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that intention and drive. And if it is constantly on what would seemingly be kind of a negative

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angle of it, like I'm not crazy is still embodying like an energy of having to validate this crazy

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narrative versus shifting it to a perspective that is already lighter and more charged in a positive

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way, really watching our languaging to how we are, what we are, what we are signing off on,

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on allowing to label us is I think also so freaking huge. And yeah, there's a lot of

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speeches that need to be said and done and what I try to share. And I know you do the same on

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what we have been convinced of. And I think there can be this great fear when you first kind of

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connect to the spiritual world that you're going to get lost in too far away, but that is where

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community and plugging in with people that are in this experience and are willing to see you fully

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for who you are and help you navigate. Like some of the days, like, we'll be teaching a client,

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some are just someone in our life, something, but that could be the exact same advice we need to

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hear from someone else another day. So that is really part of the collective component of all of

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this too. And yeah, thank you for that, like rewording and just giving some advice on starting

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points. Please tell our listeners just what you, how they can plug in with you, how they can connect

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with you, what your handles are and anything else you want to share that you are giving to the world

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currently. Yeah. So I am got lost, get found. I'm on Instagram and TikTok. That is also our website

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is gotlossgetfound.com. We have, when I mentioned the numbers and color thing, a lot of what going

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into next year, I'm getting ready to take time off for holidays and for surgery recovery. Very excited

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about that. And going into next year, I'm putting a lot more of my attention on that I train new

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conscious and energetic practitioners and doing, I have been offering called Cosmic Cathedral,

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which is just about magic. And this isn't a place I visit or travel. Like I live this way a hundred

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percent of the time and helping people, specifically entrepreneurs bring magic instead of something

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they play with or do as to who they are and how do they honor their whole humanity in that process.

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And so that tracker that I mentioned, it's a bandwidth tracker to be able to check in with

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yourself every day is one of our free offerings that we have. And you can find that on the website

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and you can just download that. And it helps you to be able to track every day. There's a cycle

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tracker and weather and a bunch of things on it, which has been really, really great. I also offer

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the 11 11 experience is kind of the foundational thing I do. It's a self led virtual experience.

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And I teach you how to build a safe and empowered relationship with your intuition. And so it's

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everything that I wish I had known going into treatment where I was really educating and

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teaching myself on what the difference between my intuition and my intuitive senses versus

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my trauma responses were, um, and healing the empath story, which was a major part of who I was

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and like processing other people's stuff. And instead of being built as virtual education,

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typically is in some sort of course fashion, we designed it as a game. And it's a game for like

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16 year old inner children is kind of our demographic that you get to play with your intuitive

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senses. Uh, and in that includes, um, a foundational energetic boundaries meditation that teaches you

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how to establish those foundational boundaries. Um, one of my favorite testimonial is someone says

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it feels like they finally got their letter to Hogwarts. Um, yeah. And that's for the 11 11

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experience. And then I also do intensive one-on-one mentorships and I have a 10 day retreat coming

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next year. Ooh, so excited. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Thank you. Amazing. We will definitely keep

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supporting and sharing and watching along. Thank you for this, um, super important conversation.

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Thank you for doing the work you are doing and thank you to the listeners for being here.

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Um, we will see you next week. Thank you.