1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:11,640 Hello and welcome back to the Awaken Together podcast. 2 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:12,640 I'm Kat. 3 00:00:12,640 --> 00:00:13,640 I'm Jen. 4 00:00:13,640 --> 00:00:19,200 And we want to welcome you to season three. 5 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:23,440 We have missed this space and missed you all. 6 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:28,840 And yeah, we're calling today's episode, What the Fuck is Happening? 7 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:33,320 And we're going to put this one out a little earlier for you guys because we have just 8 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:38,240 been thinking about all the stuff going on around the world. 9 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:41,200 It's been really hitting us right in the heart. 10 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:46,200 And we thought we'd have an open conversation just to kind of get it out and share some 11 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:49,160 thoughts for our community. 12 00:00:49,160 --> 00:00:50,160 So welcome. 13 00:00:50,160 --> 00:00:53,080 Yeah, we've been feeling it for sure. 14 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:56,260 And figured we'd just hop on and start the season early. 15 00:00:56,260 --> 00:01:02,240 The rest of the episodes will actually begin in September and we'll be offering episodes 16 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:04,680 every week of this fall. 17 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:10,240 So lots of exciting content that we're pumped to get out to you all. 18 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:13,400 But for today, What the Fuck is Happening? 19 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:14,400 Really. 20 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:19,000 A little trigger warning that we're going to be covering some intense topics today. 21 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:23,680 So if you're not in the headspace to listen to that, it's really important that you take 22 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:27,320 care of yourself first and above all, and that you're in a good space where you're ready 23 00:01:27,320 --> 00:01:32,760 to hear it and get deep and maybe question some things that you've thought or that have 24 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:33,760 been happening. 25 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:39,480 But we want to start with just a little bit of grounding to get us in the space of receiving 26 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:41,720 what is going to come. 27 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:49,040 So if you're in a place where you can find a seat, please do that. 28 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:55,320 Come across your legs and plant your feet firmly on the ground beneath you. 29 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:58,440 Lean your back upright. 30 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:05,320 If you're sitting in a chair, rest your spine against the back of the chair. 31 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:12,480 Feel a lift in the crown of your head and a rooting down through your hips. 32 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:17,100 Maybe you place your hands on your body. 33 00:02:17,100 --> 00:02:22,920 Maybe they feel nice on your heart. 34 00:02:22,920 --> 00:02:32,560 Let's take a few moments just to breathe. 35 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:37,440 Let your exhales be longer than your inhales. 36 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:42,760 When we do this, we send a message to our nervous systems that we're in a safe place 37 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:45,040 to just let go. 38 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:47,800 Let's take a few rounds together. 39 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:52,120 Deep breath in. 40 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:53,120 Open your mouth. 41 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:57,760 Let it go. 42 00:02:57,760 --> 00:02:59,160 Two more like that. 43 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:05,680 Breath in and out. 44 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:11,160 One more time. 45 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:12,200 Deepest one yet. 46 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:13,200 Breathe all the way in. 47 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:17,800 Feel your ribs expand. 48 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:20,120 Hold it at the top. 49 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:21,120 Open your mouth. 50 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:27,280 Clear it all out. 51 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:34,520 Seal your lips and continue breathing in through your nose and out through your nose. 52 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:44,440 Starting to release the hold on your breath and just letting it flow in and out. 53 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:48,680 Can open your eyes back up if they were closed. 54 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:51,960 And now we can begin. 55 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:52,960 Thank you, Kat. 56 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:54,240 So needed that. 57 00:03:54,240 --> 00:04:00,760 And let me tell you the amount of times I have had to go back to my breath in the last 58 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:02,720 month, couple months. 59 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:09,720 It's just been a constant taking stuff in, thinking it through, and then bringing myself 60 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:12,520 back into my body, connecting back with my breath. 61 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:19,480 And I've just been very thankful for all the action steps and healing that I have taken 62 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:27,280 in years previous to be able to kind of navigate this time with a sense of being able to not 63 00:04:27,280 --> 00:04:34,720 only feel all the emotions that have been screaming to be felt, but also know how to 64 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:41,440 kind of transmute some of those heavier emotions into not just immobilization, but being able 65 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:47,040 to turn like anger into passion, taking my sadness, my grief and all of this and being 66 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:53,080 able to channel it into deeper connections and conversations, just really, really important 67 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:58,560 stuff that this healing and spiritual journey has given me in my toolbox to be able to navigate 68 00:04:58,560 --> 00:04:59,680 all of this better. 69 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:00,680 So grateful. 70 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:01,680 Likewise. 71 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:02,680 Yes. 72 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:06,840 And let's call out some of the things that have been going on, shall we? 73 00:05:06,840 --> 00:05:08,360 Yeah, list it off. 74 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:09,360 Yeah. 75 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:13,120 So to start with Roe v. Wade being overturned. 76 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:17,800 We're experiencing a massive attack on women's rights. 77 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:24,320 Certainly also 96% of Republicans voted to make birth control illegal. 78 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:26,840 So it continues. 79 00:05:26,840 --> 00:05:32,160 Gay marriage is also being threatened along with LGBTQ plus rights. 80 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:37,200 Police brutality is an all time high and the mass shootings continue. 81 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:38,240 Yeah. 82 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:42,120 So heavy, heavy freaking stuff. 83 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:48,800 I thought that me and Kat would go back and forth and just kind of share some of the experiences 84 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:54,240 we had as this stuff kind of came to the news and got shared. 85 00:05:54,240 --> 00:06:01,640 And I think just to preface from my perspective, this has all hit like, I feel like a lot of 86 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:04,480 layers deeper than for some. 87 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:12,800 I think with all of this Roe v. Wade stuff getting overturned, I've not only felt like 88 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:18,680 a lot of my religious trauma stuff kind of resurfacing with some of these more conservative 89 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:24,320 values being pushed and also seeing the way a lot of my kind of more conservative family 90 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:29,760 members and old circles have responded to this stuff. 91 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:36,440 Being able to see that perspective on top of this, I think has cut me like layers deeper. 92 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:42,880 And yeah, if you're on like the TikTok space, I think we've been able to see a lot of stories 93 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:44,200 being shared. 94 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:48,800 I think there's, yeah, this just goes a lot of layers deeper, but we're going to kind 95 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:57,680 of stay within the context somewhat best I can on just kind of the women's rights focus. 96 00:06:57,680 --> 00:07:02,120 And so yeah, I'll start with just kind of what that like morning looked like for me 97 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:06,800 and what happened kind of throughout the day. 98 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:09,880 I got announced really early or I feel like I heard it really early. 99 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:15,200 It was like with my morning coffee and I was just immediately burst into tears. 100 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:16,760 I was like so angry. 101 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:24,120 I remember shaking as I was drinking my coffee and just being so frustrated that this had 102 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:28,720 actually happened, that it wasn't just rumored. 103 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:33,880 It was real, really, really there and really, really present. 104 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:37,340 And then the weirdest part about all of it was I had to be at work. 105 00:07:37,340 --> 00:07:45,180 So having to go from this like very visceral reaction to then having to kind of mask when 106 00:07:45,180 --> 00:07:52,480 I am obviously very anti having to mask some of my feelings very open about sharing and 107 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:53,520 letting it out. 108 00:07:53,520 --> 00:08:00,480 And so it's just kind of this weird extra layer that I had to then put on a happier 109 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:05,360 face and show up at work and be able to hold space for my patients while I'm feeling all 110 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:06,360 this rage. 111 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:10,560 And actually my boss, right when I walked in, I was like, he was like, how are you Jen? 112 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:15,880 I was like really bad because my rights were just taken, but you know, we're going to do 113 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:17,960 the best we can just getting through this. 114 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:19,960 And he was just like, oh, sorry. 115 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:25,360 I just put a hand on my shoulder and I was like, I'm going to do the best I can. 116 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:29,280 I'm just like tears just continuously just kept coming up. 117 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:39,480 Just you know, I feel like every bit of work I do even in patient care is all for people. 118 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:45,180 It's people that have been failed by a system that are struggling to get back to work and 119 00:08:45,180 --> 00:08:46,360 get back to reality. 120 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:50,640 So it's just there was a lot of irony tied in with all of that. 121 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:52,960 But I went through my day. 122 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:58,760 I took in little bouts of social media when I got home, but I honestly couldn't handle 123 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:02,080 very much that first day. 124 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:07,300 And I did probably not maybe the best move on day number one, but I was just feeling 125 00:09:07,300 --> 00:09:13,080 so much that I figured why not just rip off the bandaid and do the whole thing. 126 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:18,480 So I have not been on Facebook in like three years, besides like occasionally logging in 127 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:23,080 to look at those old photo albums, you know, as you do. 128 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:29,480 So I went on my husband's account and just started reading what some of my family members 129 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:31,280 were saying. 130 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:36,880 And that like opened up an entire world of people that were celebrating and said, I will 131 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:38,200 never forget this day. 132 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:44,120 It's the most beautiful day in history to be able to take this giant stand for God and 133 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:49,480 that this is so beautiful that faith is coming back to the surface. 134 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:57,920 I also saw a whole comment thread under a Roe v. Wade post about how now God wants his 135 00:09:57,920 --> 00:09:59,020 rainbow back. 136 00:09:59,020 --> 00:10:01,240 We know what we need to take down next. 137 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:05,560 We got to get this country back into a biblical mind frame or it's going to keep falling 138 00:10:05,560 --> 00:10:06,560 apart. 139 00:10:06,560 --> 00:10:11,920 So I was just seeing these perspectives that I'm so out of tune with at this point, but 140 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:18,000 very much I remember on like a cellular level because it's in my trauma body from the way 141 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:19,280 I was raised. 142 00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:26,200 But having all of that be read on top of kind of everything that happened and even looking 143 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:33,000 under the Roe v. Wade hashtag and seeing that it was very kind of split between celebration 144 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:39,960 for how beautiful of a move that was to also seeing people yeah devastated and just to 145 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:42,600 share one like final bit of that day. 146 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:47,960 Like when I first initially felt that pain, it was so much more than it just being this 147 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:51,000 like federal regulation being pulled. 148 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:57,360 It's just in my body and in my mind flashed like all of these personal stories of times 149 00:10:57,360 --> 00:11:04,200 I was taken advantage of close friends have been taken advantage of the situations my 150 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:10,360 friends and close like close people in my circle have relied on that kind of federal 151 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:14,680 protection and really awful times in their lives. 152 00:11:14,680 --> 00:11:19,960 And I just think I kind of flash and had this empath feeling for so many stories that came 153 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:22,400 before me. 154 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:28,040 And yeah, I also had like flashes of like the women that had to fight with their lives 155 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:35,680 for this all those years ago and how you know the original fight of Roe v. Wade was because 156 00:11:35,680 --> 00:11:41,560 there was malicious things happening to women and they were seeing like the underground 157 00:11:41,560 --> 00:11:48,480 world of abortions and what was happening and how doctors were manipulating women to 158 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:49,680 doing things for them. 159 00:11:49,680 --> 00:11:57,040 If they did stuff for them, it just got really grimy and unprotected and really scary. 160 00:11:57,040 --> 00:12:03,440 And so yeah, all that kind of flashed in my head and one flash and it was overwhelming 161 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:09,520 and Kat was in a completely kind of a different perspective, which I honestly really loved 162 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:12,280 and appreciated seeing you were like my grounding light. 163 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:16,880 So, you know, but yes, tell us kind of what went down for you. 164 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:20,120 Yeah, so it's really, really interesting. 165 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:27,920 June 24th is my best friend Margie's birthday and we were at Electric Forest together. 166 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:28,920 The music festival. 167 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:29,920 Kat's like top home. 168 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:36,120 Yeah, my home, my happy place that we look forward to going to every year. 169 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:40,600 It was year seven and so we have just been waiting for this moment for years and years 170 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:41,600 and years. 171 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:49,600 Yeah, and so we were there and I went on Instagram early that morning just as I was in my tent, 172 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:54,120 like just waking up for the day around like 11 or something. 173 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:59,400 And I saw that and I was like, oh no, like, oh my God, it actually happened. 174 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:04,880 Like yeah, we'd heard the rumors and that this might happen and that was scary enough. 175 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:08,080 But to see that, oh shit, like here we are. 176 00:13:08,080 --> 00:13:10,880 It's done now. 177 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:19,200 But I kind of took and didn't let myself really go into it because of the setting of where 178 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:26,460 I was and didn't feel like it was the time for me to really go in and feel that and fully 179 00:13:26,460 --> 00:13:32,200 understand what that means for myself, for the women in my life, for our country as a 180 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:34,000 whole. 181 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:39,320 And so I also was really well aware that it was my best friend's birthday and I didn't 182 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:43,080 want this to ruin her entire day. 183 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:44,920 And I know she didn't want that either. 184 00:13:44,920 --> 00:13:50,720 So after getting out of the tent, wishing her happy birthday, I asked her, you know, 185 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:55,180 did you see what happened with Roe versus Wade in abortion? 186 00:13:55,180 --> 00:13:58,400 She said, yes, I cannot believe it. 187 00:13:58,400 --> 00:14:03,800 And kind of had that moment of like, oh my God, like, what does this mean? 188 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:08,880 But we also mutually agreed that we're going to kind of deal with that. 189 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:13,960 We had the privilege of dealing with that when we got home, knowing that we are both 190 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:22,200 from states that have really progressive abortion laws and that will not be overturned. 191 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:25,480 We're really lucky here in Colorado, we have some of the best abortion laws in the whole 192 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:27,880 country. 193 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:33,200 But it still doesn't diminish the fact of what's going on at a collective level for 194 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:34,740 us women. 195 00:14:34,740 --> 00:14:40,040 So I kind of put that away and then as we went on throughout the day, it was a really 196 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:42,620 happy day. 197 00:14:42,620 --> 00:14:46,680 And I was really glad to see I was hoping this would happen. 198 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:52,680 But most of the musical artists that we saw perform did say something and kind of dedicated 199 00:14:52,680 --> 00:15:01,440 their set to like coming together of people and how we are bigger than any political movements 200 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:06,380 and that we have the power to change, to change what's going on. 201 00:15:06,380 --> 00:15:07,520 And it was it was very empowering. 202 00:15:07,520 --> 00:15:10,640 It was also just taking a moment for sadness. 203 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:18,040 And I think it was Sylvan Esso we saw she kind of like had a moment of silence and all 204 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:23,240 of it connected really beautifully with her sets with her music. 205 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:29,360 And Grizz as well, he did a couple times shared like, what's going on. 206 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:35,960 And it was just really good to see like over the sea of 30,000 people, like everybody that 207 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:40,800 I could tell was very much in alignment of like, this is fucked up. 208 00:15:40,800 --> 00:15:45,200 And this is not going to be like what we're accepting. 209 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:47,560 We're not just going to be complacent with this. 210 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:51,060 Like we're going to have our fun time here at the forest and then we're going to go home 211 00:15:51,060 --> 00:15:53,560 and get shit done. 212 00:15:53,560 --> 00:16:00,080 It also happened that night and I didn't even mention this to you, but that day I lost my 213 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:01,080 birth control pill. 214 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:02,080 Wild. 215 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:10,120 And so to talk about like the interrelatedness of everything, like, holy shit, like, yeah, 216 00:16:10,120 --> 00:16:12,860 it doesn't affect me, you know, in my state. 217 00:16:12,860 --> 00:16:17,200 But just thinking about that, if I lived anywhere else and I lost my birth control pill and 218 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:22,680 I got pregnant and I couldn't have that baby, you know, that I wouldn't be able to. 219 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:25,200 So that's some feelings for me. 220 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:30,240 I'm now off the birth control pill, which we'll talk about another episode riding all 221 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:31,520 the ways of emotion. 222 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:32,520 But ever since. 223 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:33,520 Crazy timing though. 224 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:35,440 Yeah, seriously, crazy timing. 225 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:41,560 And ever since being back, I've allowed myself to have those moments of going into like the 226 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:45,480 grief that this has brought on. 227 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:51,400 And a lot of that for me has been like consuming different content on social media, different 228 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:57,200 articles, just like the we all heard the story of the 10 year old girl, right? 229 00:16:57,200 --> 00:16:58,200 Yeah. 230 00:16:58,200 --> 00:17:03,200 Who was raped by someone in her family and was not allowed to be given an abortion. 231 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:06,360 Like that's just no, no words. 232 00:17:06,360 --> 00:17:14,040 But yeah, I aside from that, I've totally acknowledged that I am in an echo chamber 233 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:21,000 on my social media because everyone that I follow is very much like me, like us, like 234 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:22,840 progressive. 235 00:17:22,840 --> 00:17:30,320 And I don't come from a place where there's a lot of religious trauma and a lot of that 236 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:37,260 being shoved down your throat and no one on my feet is celebrating Roe v Wade being overturned. 237 00:17:37,260 --> 00:17:42,760 So connecting with Jen and hearing all about like your family and just what you're seeing 238 00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:49,360 because you're from Florida, I'm from Massachusetts, differences in those communities. 239 00:17:49,360 --> 00:17:55,760 So yeah, it's been really interesting to hear that from you and acknowledging too that it's 240 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:58,000 much more comfortable for me. 241 00:17:58,000 --> 00:17:59,880 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 242 00:17:59,880 --> 00:18:05,320 And so yeah, there's a really good line of thought within all of this. 243 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:06,320 I think. 244 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:13,960 Yeah, I think TikTok's algorithm as a whole has helped elevate voices that probably would 245 00:18:13,960 --> 00:18:17,900 not have been elevated through just like an Instagram space. 246 00:18:17,900 --> 00:18:22,200 Just Instagram, it's hard to get as much context, you know, because it's not people talking 247 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:23,280 and sharing. 248 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:30,320 So I do think that social media app as a whole has been able to allow me to hear perspectives 249 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:34,760 as these big political things happen that maybe I wouldn't be as exposed to. 250 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:43,000 But I also I felt like a deep pool when this all like at first happened that I just started 251 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:47,560 thinking of previous times in history when there's tried to be an impression of a large 252 00:18:47,560 --> 00:18:49,400 group of people before. 253 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:55,080 Like, yeah, we've seen in history repeat itself again and again, minority groups being pushed 254 00:18:55,080 --> 00:19:02,280 down or just not getting a sense of freedom for absolutely everyone and how they express 255 00:19:02,280 --> 00:19:03,580 and live their life. 256 00:19:03,580 --> 00:19:06,120 We see history repeat itself in this. 257 00:19:06,120 --> 00:19:11,280 And you know, we didn't have the Internet and these other big giant movements. 258 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:16,920 So we didn't we weren't able to like go online and research things like outside of the context 259 00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:18,040 of our own bubble. 260 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:23,920 So in a way, the Internet can be the most freeing thing in the world because it allows 261 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:28,380 you to get knowledge of something you wouldn't have access to. 262 00:19:28,380 --> 00:19:32,560 If you look at previous times in history when this is this has happened. 263 00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:38,160 So as much as it's important, I think, to take social media breaks and not overconsume, 264 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:42,760 I've also tried to stay vigilant to the fact that this is the first time in history where 265 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:47,840 we can be communicating this diversely about the topics that are happening, if that makes 266 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:49,500 some sense. 267 00:19:49,500 --> 00:19:51,600 So I've tried to stay vigilant on that, too. 268 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:55,720 And so I think the media has a lot of relevance. 269 00:19:55,720 --> 00:20:01,600 I think it's also important to do some research, maybe outside of your context in small amounts, 270 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:03,880 not to the point of being immobilized. 271 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:08,940 But there are conversations happening in the Internet space that you can see all ranges 272 00:20:08,940 --> 00:20:13,440 of thinking behind absolutely everything. 273 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:20,440 So I'm going to share to one of the initial things as was Kat was saying, like I felt 274 00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:26,120 like I because of this religion trauma background, I wanted to open a conversation up with my 275 00:20:26,120 --> 00:20:27,120 family. 276 00:20:27,120 --> 00:20:28,120 Right. 277 00:20:28,120 --> 00:20:32,980 When this happened, I felt like we I bring up uncomfortable conversations with them kind 278 00:20:32,980 --> 00:20:33,980 of often. 279 00:20:33,980 --> 00:20:39,320 I've gone from no contact to contact back and forth and definitely tried out various 280 00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:42,080 things as I navigated my own healing journey. 281 00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:48,980 But I felt like this huge fire that I needed to kind of share my perspective in this after 282 00:20:48,980 --> 00:20:53,800 reading what was put on social media by my family. 283 00:20:53,800 --> 00:21:00,560 So I can share like just a smidge of that conversation because, yeah, it's it's kind 284 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:04,360 of a unique take, I think, on some of it. 285 00:21:04,360 --> 00:21:10,780 So I really try to paint the picture for my family who have very conservative Christian 286 00:21:10,780 --> 00:21:20,200 values and really believe that all of all of these LBGTQ plus getting rights, all of 287 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:26,600 the women's rights, they feel all of this like defies what the Bible is saying. 288 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:29,220 And they think that the Bible should win. 289 00:21:29,220 --> 00:21:34,920 And as much as they were against getting forced vaccinations for covid, you know, you also 290 00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:39,760 see them deeply wanting the freedom to be able to do. 291 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:46,640 Yeah, it just they kind of contradict themselves and wanting everyone to have rights, they 292 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:47,640 say. 293 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:48,640 So nothing is forced on them. 294 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:51,600 But then doing the very thing that they're saying they don't want and trying to force 295 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:53,160 things on other people. 296 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:56,040 Very contradictory, very contradicting. 297 00:21:56,040 --> 00:22:00,440 And I get even annoyed having to argue like so many like petty points. 298 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:07,800 And I really just tried to give a deeper context picture to them that our family, we come from 299 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:14,880 a lot of generations of really strict religious beliefs, especially like Christianity. 300 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:21,480 And within all of that, my family really directly plays a part to our ancestors were a part 301 00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:27,080 of the original group that probably really did awful things to the Native Americans when 302 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:35,240 they first colonized this country were a part of definitely the the deep south and slave 303 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:38,320 owning racism, like just heavy. 304 00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:42,200 All of that is in my family's history. 305 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:49,200 And if you look at any of those movements, a lot of them got justified by biblical implications 306 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:54,060 again and again, and then would start to kind of slack on what they thought the Bible's 307 00:22:54,060 --> 00:22:58,360 interpretation of and then get a little bit more loose on it. 308 00:22:58,360 --> 00:23:05,080 But behind all that biblical push is also like justifying abuse and really toxic behavior 309 00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:10,840 that ends up usually impacting minority groups and people of color. 310 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:16,720 And yeah, and even the LGBTQ plus community, which I feel like is just at the threshold 311 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:23,600 of having like more freedom, not that it's even there yet, but closer than probably has 312 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:25,760 ever been in history. 313 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:30,160 And so, yeah, I try to paint a bigger picture to them that, you know, as much as they think 314 00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:36,820 they're trying to push this biblical agenda, it's also very scary because we've seen that 315 00:23:36,820 --> 00:23:42,320 happen before in history where, yeah, the Bible was used to justify it. 316 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:48,240 And I just try to paint that as a whole and tell them that, you know, you can have the 317 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:52,200 right to your religion, your beliefs and all of that. 318 00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:57,240 And you can have the context you want within what you think women should and shouldn't 319 00:23:57,240 --> 00:24:00,920 do, but you can only navigate your own life and your own inner circle. 320 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:07,400 And it gets really scary when you see bigger oversight on that stuff that leads to people 321 00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:11,680 not being protected and like, yeah, more problems coming out of it. 322 00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:18,360 Yeah, it feels like lately what we've been seeing is a lot of positive change, you know, 323 00:24:18,360 --> 00:24:26,240 in terms of like, yeah, with the LGBTQ plus community slowly beginning to get more rights, 324 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:28,920 like the bathroom laws and all of that. 325 00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:32,920 Yeah, we have like so many all gender bathrooms here in Colorado, it's freaking great. 326 00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:33,920 Colorado's the best. 327 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:38,960 But yeah, sometimes it feels like we're taking three steps forward all to take two steps 328 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:41,040 back, right? 329 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:45,240 And so progression and change feels slow. 330 00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:50,600 But I think it's important to kind of zoom out sometimes and take it for the whole trajectory 331 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:56,720 of where it's been, where it's going of this has happened in the past, you know, and it's 332 00:24:56,720 --> 00:25:01,600 not, you know, we've talked about how people say we just need to get back to the way things 333 00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:04,440 used to be like that is so irrelevant. 334 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:06,960 That is so it's a slap in the face. 335 00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:12,160 So many of the stories we've been able to hear of people's pain and how their lives 336 00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:20,680 were so deeply affected by these like, moral laws and just it's caused oppression again 337 00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:21,880 and again and again. 338 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:27,120 And so stop saying it, we got to get back to this used to be the used to be really did 339 00:25:27,120 --> 00:25:33,960 only really elevate a very tiny group of what this country is actually built on, which is 340 00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:37,040 a lot of diversity and a lot of different ways of thinking. 341 00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:43,880 Yeah, and sometimes the infrastructure needs to be completely broken down in order to rebuild 342 00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:45,440 it even stronger. 343 00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:48,920 So that's how I stay hopeful. 344 00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:52,000 It's thinking about how, yeah, shit hits the fan. 345 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:56,280 And then we come together, we rally the troops. 346 00:25:56,280 --> 00:26:01,080 When we understand the magnitude of like, what's going on, and then we're going to come 347 00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:06,240 back even stronger, but we can't just accept what's happening in order to get there. 348 00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:08,160 So change is needed. 349 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:14,640 Also, it was super interesting for me to learn from you, Jen, how this is also like in the 350 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:15,640 stars. 351 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:16,640 Yeah. 352 00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:20,560 So obviously, we know that I'm very into astrology. 353 00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:26,880 And this has been kind of like a little light and all of this too, is, you know, I've heard 354 00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:30,300 many people are trying to find like the root cause of this, like why it's happening. 355 00:26:30,300 --> 00:26:37,120 And I think we have to be tactful that, yeah, we can't know the entire bigger picture of 356 00:26:37,120 --> 00:26:38,120 why. 357 00:26:38,120 --> 00:26:42,520 But I do think having perspective that can make you feel lighter and more positive, but 358 00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:47,480 also still keep that fire within you to create action is important. 359 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:55,360 But, you know, within a big chunk of the millennial and even Gen Z population, we have Pluto and 360 00:26:55,360 --> 00:26:56,360 Scorpio. 361 00:26:56,360 --> 00:26:58,840 It's mainly millennials. 362 00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:04,100 And Pluto is a planet is one of our outer planets that moves really slowly. 363 00:27:04,100 --> 00:27:05,920 So it lumps us into generations. 364 00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:09,320 I think we talked about this in the astrology episode. 365 00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:15,560 And we were given Scorpio, Pluto's and Scorpio is all about taking all of the stuff that's 366 00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:20,900 been hidden and tucked away and in secret and bringing it up to the surface. 367 00:27:20,900 --> 00:27:26,600 And I think within within all of this, you can find a million negative perspectives and 368 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:31,680 you can find a million potential positive perspectives. 369 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:38,520 But knowing that we have made so many things known and visible is also like kind of the 370 00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:40,040 most beautiful thing. 371 00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:46,560 Like we've been able to have conversations that have never been being able to be vocalized 372 00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:48,440 on larger platforms. 373 00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:54,980 And we are calling these senators, these House representatives, like we are pulling out their 374 00:27:54,980 --> 00:28:01,160 life stories, bringing all this stuff to the surface so that, yeah, things are not being 375 00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:06,020 said without a lot of context being revealed behind it. 376 00:28:06,020 --> 00:28:10,440 So yeah, it's kind of an information overload, but it's also really beautiful that people 377 00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:15,960 can't just say something anymore because we will pull out all your secrets. 378 00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:18,680 We will make sure that the secrets are known. 379 00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:24,400 And I don't think people are able to get away with the stuff quite as easily as before. 380 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:28,760 We're causing like some serious inconvenience. 381 00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:36,240 And yeah, that's beautiful being inconvenient and creating inconvenience, being wild, being 382 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:43,480 radically yourself is one of the most expansive ways to promote freedom, I think of them all. 383 00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:44,960 So loving it. 384 00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:45,960 Absolutely. 385 00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:53,600 And that really ties in well to I mean, our whole intention for this podcast and not just 386 00:28:53,600 --> 00:29:00,600 this episode, but all of Awaken Together is to help you like understand some tools and 387 00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:06,200 resources to get your get to know yourself on a deeper level so that you can really be 388 00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:12,660 rooted in yourself, in your confidence, your abilities, and take empowered action on these 389 00:29:12,660 --> 00:29:15,120 huge movements that affect us all. 390 00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:20,800 Because if we're unclear of who we are and what we stand for, how the hell are we going 391 00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:23,760 to make change in the world and like let that ripple out? 392 00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:29,920 Yeah, and when we deeply know ourselves, and we are not moving through life with under 393 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:35,640 these old subconscious wounds and pains that are deep within us, when we know how to manage 394 00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:41,000 and feel our emotions and take ourselves from heightened heights to being able to bring 395 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:46,480 ourselves back to a sense of safety, all of that helps you move through a more intuitive 396 00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:53,400 way so that when something actually comes up in your direct life, you're able to manage 397 00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:56,120 that in the most appropriate and beautiful way. 398 00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:59,680 You're not coming from old stories and the way you move through your life. 399 00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:04,720 And that is the whole point of this healing and spiritual journey is to get to that intuitive 400 00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:05,720 way of thinking. 401 00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:06,720 Heck yeah. 402 00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:14,440 So we want to kind of close out this episode by sharing some ideas and tools for when shit 403 00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:20,720 gets really hard and you can just like feel like you're doing something productive. 404 00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:24,520 Sometimes the most productive thing to do is to rest, right? 405 00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:29,160 So taking those social media breaks, taking breaks from listening to the news, practicing 406 00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:35,600 your self care, choosing your community mindfully and wisely, surrounding yourself with people 407 00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:40,640 who make you feel uplifted, seen and heard, and that you can really connect with on a 408 00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:43,000 soul level. 409 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:47,480 Also putting your money where your mouth is and donating to Planned Parenthood if you're 410 00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:50,240 feeling like, I want to be doing more. 411 00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:53,760 They are at the front lines of combating this. 412 00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:57,360 And so donating to them right online is a great way to do it. 413 00:30:57,360 --> 00:31:03,840 Yeah, I went and did some protesting at the Capitol, which was great and very needed. 414 00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:12,760 I also think it's really important that we listen to people of color, people in the LGBTQ 415 00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:17,600 plus community, the people that have fought oppression again and again. 416 00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:23,960 It's really important to listen to those voices because yeah, we are now lumped in as a giant 417 00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:28,020 group of uterus bodies all being affected by this. 418 00:31:28,020 --> 00:31:31,920 But there's been groups that have had to continuously climb to the top that have more organized 419 00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:34,220 resources because they've been a part of it. 420 00:31:34,220 --> 00:31:38,640 So making sure that you kind of diversify the opinions that you're getting, you listen 421 00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:41,140 to people that are outside of your circle. 422 00:31:41,140 --> 00:31:45,520 And I also think focusing on your own self-love journey continuously. 423 00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:52,360 Yeah, playing with all of the things we've shared with using yoga, using meditation, 424 00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:57,440 using sound healing, using all of the things that we have shared to continue to get to 425 00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:03,680 know yourself so that when more people wake up to who they actually are, it's going to 426 00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:06,240 be impossible to tame us again. 427 00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:13,480 And that was my capital holding sign untamed that I had because I so deeply believe that 428 00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:16,880 it's in the taming of this that we see those oppressive thoughts. 429 00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:21,920 So keep untaming yourself, keep learning how to embrace all the beautiful parts of who 430 00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:23,320 you are. 431 00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:26,600 And I am a huge documentary and book fan. 432 00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:30,920 So I was going to share a couple of the books that I think have deeply impacted. 433 00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:31,920 I honestly have so many. 434 00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:38,800 Maybe we can make a post for you guys too on our Awaken Together podcast Instagram page. 435 00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:42,920 But The Moment of Lift is a really beautiful book by Melinda Gates. 436 00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:48,880 I think it really paints the picture with a lot of data on how we have gotten to a place 437 00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:55,680 where birth control was accessible, how, yeah, just the journey of women's rights, even in 438 00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:58,040 this country and in other countries. 439 00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:00,520 It was a very, very fascinating read. 440 00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:05,360 I love Braving the Wilderness by Brene Brown that talks about a lot of the political movements 441 00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:11,600 behind embracing freedom for all and braving these oppressive systems. 442 00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:18,120 And I love Untamed by Glennon Doyle, who also does the same and shares about untaming yourself 443 00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:23,520 and what that looks like for the individual and the collective at large. 444 00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:26,640 For Roe v. Wade, some really good documentaries. 445 00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:28,360 The Janes is on HBO. 446 00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:36,160 I thought that gave so much insight of why Roe v. Wade becoming federal law was so significant 447 00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:39,880 with what was going on in those times. 448 00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:44,480 And then Reversing Roe is also on Netflix and had a lot of good data about the history 449 00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:48,160 behind the movement, what was going on. 450 00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:54,560 And I also love Ruth Bader Ginsburg documentary that really goes over the background of women 451 00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:58,240 legislation and what it has looked like in the country too. 452 00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:00,760 Amelia, thank you for those resources. 453 00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:01,760 That's awesome. 454 00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:02,760 Great place to start. 455 00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:09,760 And yeah, thank you all so much for being an amazing part of our community and for just 456 00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:12,060 showing up, for being here with us. 457 00:34:12,060 --> 00:34:16,360 We love you all and can't wait to talk with you again in September. 458 00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:17,360 All right. 459 00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:18,360 Love you guys. 460 00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:19,360 Bye. 461 00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:34,160 Bye.