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Hello, everyone, and welcome to the Awaken Together podcast.

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I'm Jen.

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And I'm Kat.

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And today is our final episode of season two.

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I literally do not even know how that is possible, reflecting on all of season one, now all of

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season two.

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And we are just so grateful to be here, and we thought today's episode, it would be amazing

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just to kind of do an overview of everything we've talked about, not only in season two,

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but just also going over how to integrate all of it so that as we take our pause between

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seasons, you can reflect on everything we've covered and start to apply it to your life.

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That's right.

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Yeah.

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So the season two podcast has flown by, it's come and gone, and we really want to lean

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into this sense of newness and light this summer.

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But first, we want to reflect on the past six months, and not only on our podcast, but

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also outside of what we've been talking with you all here about in the greater world, because

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we know a lot has happened outside as well.

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Yes.

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So spirituality is obviously what we have given you tons and tons of tools to reflect

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with.

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And I think our biggest thing that we want to make sure is understood is that as we've

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given you guys a lot of different topics, it's not to stress you out that there's this

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giant regimen that needs to be done to feel, yeah, like you're doing it right, quote unquote.

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It's really just a ton of options so that if you're in a low place, you have things

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you can turn to, perspectives that you can find to kind of walk yourself through it,

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be with the heavy emotions and also to then move and return to a place that feels good

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and comfortable in your life.

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And so with the spiritual journey, it's going to look very different for every single person.

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I try to be extremely careful, as I know Kat is, to not say something in a way where it's

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a hundred percent like there's no ifs, ands or buts around it, because especially what

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I know from astrology, every single person's soul path is so unique and so different.

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And we have to honor that what is working for us doesn't always work for every single

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person.

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But I also think a lot of these concepts can give you so much more insight and make life

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feel almost way more magical because we've seen it happen for a lot of people.

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But that doesn't mean you can't mix and match the concepts that we have gone over to find

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what is working for your personal life.

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That's right.

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I'm a big fan of options.

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And like when I go to a restaurant, you know, it's like, I don't want to go to a place

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that has three options.

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No, I want to go to a place that has, you know, maybe like 10, 15.

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Any more than that, I might get a little overwhelmed.

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I'm not going to lie.

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But when I have a different like smorgasbord to choose from, then I am able to like tip

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my toe into a couple different waters and see what feels good in this moment.

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Because as our spiritual journeys really progress, one thing might not feel great that used to

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feel great.

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And it's important that we honor that too.

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So we in our episodes tried to give you like a taste of these high, you know, really high-power

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tools so that you can identify like right off the bat from a little summary.

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Is this something that I want to dig into more?

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Or is this something that maybe I can tell a friend about who might be interested in

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it?

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Or is this something that I want to put on the shelf and return to at another time?

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Absolutely.

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And I like that you said, yeah, something that works.

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You know, some of these tools have been at the forefront of my life and other times they've

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been like pocketed and come back when I need them.

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Like I've definitely waved in between the significance of a lot of the topics we have

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covered as well.

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So I'm going to go in first.

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So this season was extra fun for me because as we know, I love the tools for self analysis.

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So I'll do a quick overview on those things.

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So we've covered astrology this season, human design, Enneagram.

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And so all of these tools, when I first had them like fall onto my path, I remember taking

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notebooks of notes and kind of writing down just what my birth chart said about me, what

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my Enneagram told about me, what my human design has like brought in.

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And using those concepts, I think I was able to find some perspective that the certain

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qualities that I bring forward, I can honor those in a way that's very intentional.

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And I don't have to be constantly building up other people's strengths that they have.

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It doesn't mean that I have to find those strengths in my own life, too.

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I can own what comes naturally to me and kind of, yeah, let go of the energy of the things

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that don't come to me as naturally because it's not in like my gift.

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You know, it's not in my gift set as much.

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And I also said deeply in like the Enneagram episode, I think to first find a place of

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self love, you have to know all the components of yourself.

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So you have to be able not know all the components, but you should have a way to kind of get an

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outside perspective on who you are and why you do what you do so that you can start to

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pick those things apart and actually kind of get to a place where you're not so self

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identifying.

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I think if you think all of these qualities so deeply belong to you that you also can

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tighten the grip and form such a rigid identity that it's really hard to accept viewpoints

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that are different than you, accept people that function and move through life a little

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bit different than you.

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And so, yeah, I also think depersonalizing was very helpful with those tools so I could

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kind of get out of my own way and not, yeah, not fuel my ego so much with these like rigid

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identity markers that I couldn't.

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I had some judgment against myself.

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And I think those tools for me were very helpful to kind of dissect that to where when I'm

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doing something, I have a lot of thoughts about why I do what I do.

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I can advertise myself a little better and I also think it's deeply helped with my communication

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skills.

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Know thyself.

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It's all about embracing individuality both within ourselves and each other, I think.

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And I so agree with all that, Jen.

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I think as well as the ones that you shared, some of the ones that I really enjoyed talking

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about and learning more about in doing so were, well, we all know psychedelics.

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That was really fun to hear all of your feedback to our listeners on that one.

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And I feel like we'll probably have to do a part two in the future based on what you

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all said.

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The power of the collective mindset.

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That was another big one.

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That was really how we started off this season.

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And we have more to share on that one today too as a little cap off.

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Even with the moon cycles, this has been something that in the past year or two I really, really

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started to develop.

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And Jen, I think that you were actually a big part of that for me.

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So thank you.

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I can feel it.

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Thanks.

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And Metta, the whole practice of loving, kindness, and compassion, giving yourself grace.

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That is something that we all need more of, always in my opinion.

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And then yoga.

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We talked a lot about yoga this season and that's not something that will ever end because

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we are yoga lovers through and through and it's completely changed our lives.

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So yeah, to kind of compliment the ones you mentioned, we covered a lot this season.

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And yeah, those practices and rituals we went over is really just to give you options to

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bring it back to being intentional with what you are doing and also finding a system that

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shows your growth.

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I want to reiterate that for sure because with all of my plant medicine journalings

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I've done, with all of my moon ceremony journalings I've done, all the notes I even took from

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my Akashic record reading and all of that, it's been tools that when I reflect back in

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my journals, I actually can see so much of my growth and I honestly don't always feel

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my growth.

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And so having a journal that I can reflect back on and be like, wow, I have come so far

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since that mindset, I think it really, it can be really inspiring to see that when sometimes

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it's yeah, it's hard to see how much you've actually changed because there's always a

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new set of things that we're unpacking and learning about ourselves because every day

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we go out into the world, we're absorbing and taking new stuff in.

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And so it's a constant unlearning, relearning, unlearning, relearning, but I think we can

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forget how far we've come without some form of documentation of yeah, yeah, you're just

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growth.

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And so I also think having those practices is so beautiful.

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Now we want to take it to kind of a facing the heaviness mode because I have been feeling

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super overwhelmed with like emotion with the landscape of just the political world, the

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wars that are going on, the shooting we had happen, all the Roe v.

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Multiple shootings.

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Like which one?

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Yeah, seriously.

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And Roe v. Wade definitely had me like very fired up too.

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And I think there is a million reasons in this point in time where you can feel like

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very hopeless.

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And so we just kind of want to talk some of this out so that you can get yeah, you can

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remember what the bigger journey is and find some perspective.

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I think with the spiritual community and with this like intentional living, I think another

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big responsibility we have is actually to feel this stuff because you know, not everyone

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can set in the emotions of things and learn to take all of that pain and suffering and

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transmute it into passion and actually channeling the stuff that we need to change and have

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a voice in that adds to things being able to continue to shift for the better.

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Just being able to sit and process and face that stuff instead of just numbing out and

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avoiding all of it, I think is also a big responsibility of the spiritual community.

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What do you think, Kat?

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I agree.

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I agree.

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I think that when all of these heavy, heavy things happen with the world, it can be all

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too easy just to like block it all out and turn Netflix on or like whatever your preferred

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method of numbing out is.

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Maybe drinking or just like trying to avoid it all.

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And it is up to us to be present and acknowledge all the shit that's happening and decide

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where we fall with our opinions.

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Talk with those that we respect and that we love and that we trust and also be open to

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all of the other conversations that are happening.

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And of course, we try to keep an open mind when we're listening to others that have

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different views than us.

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But we were talking about this before, Jen and I, as we were kind of prepping for this

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episode, but we hear a lot that like everyone's entitled to their own opinions.

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And yes, everyone is entitled to their own opinions, but it's only okay when no one's

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being hurt.

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That's my personal belief.

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Would you agree?

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And I, yeah.

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As we were saying, I get very worried when I hear every single person wanting to just

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stay in their lane and say, you know, everyone's entitled to their opinion.

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Not to sound like we have to force down one type of opinion, but I also think there's

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very damaging ways of thinking that if no one has conversations within some of those

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concepts, it's going to be really hard for us to shift from some of the extremism mentality.

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That is definitely what I feel as a spiritual community we're kind of facing and not against,

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but having to deal with.

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I think it's so important that we learn boundaries on protecting our energy and making

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sure our cup is full.

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But I also think the complete avoidance of going into uncomfortable conversations when

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you clearly have a different perspective can also be very damaging for what I think our

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goal is, and that's to get to a place where everyone is just, you know, able to receive

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love and support and help, and we definitely are battling a very toxic way of thinking

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that doesn't believe that everyone is entitled to, yeah, to equality and love and acceptance.

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And so we have to use our voice, I think, at this time more than ever.

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I feel like I was extremely triggered by all of the Roe v. Wade stuff and some of the political

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landscape that's trying to take some of the rights of women away, because, you know,

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this stuff in history, if we reflect back, has happened before.

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I think we can see over and over again where people have been fighting for all voices to

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be accepted and heard and stories that go shoved under the rug to be lifted and elevated

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so that we have perspective on the suffering of all groups of people.

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Because the second that expansiveness tries to happen, it's so historical that it gets

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reframed as being crazy and extreme and wild, and then all these constructs come in to try

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to re-box it in, because expansiveness is threatening.

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And if we continue to expand to where there's not so much of a power structure in place,

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then it takes a lot of people off of their throne and off of their power.

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And so I think a reminder for me in this spiritual journey when I am feeling overwhelmed that

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there is just nothing I can do at this point, because so much is happening that it feels

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out of my hands.

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I remember that there are people sharing their trauma stories.

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There are people coming out.

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There are people expanding on their uniqueness and being loud about their differences.

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And while that is happening, that is the expansiveness we need to be able to bring so much light

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into dark spaces that we cannot be contained back into smallness.

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And so I think it's important that when you are saying how fucked up the world is and

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how shitty it is, that you also are keeping the perspective that people are getting louder

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about the things that used to get so repressed, so shoved down.

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And that when you say that, you're also kind of in a way taking from their stories of being

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able to expand in their own life.

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So I think it's important we acknowledge the bad and sit with it and process it and

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then transmute all of that heaviness into remembering that more people are doing what

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we are hoping than ever before.

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And if every single voice gets a chance to be heard, we are moving in a direction that

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is actually more positive and is actually going to take down the structure that has

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been so toxic for so freaking long, to be honest, especially in the US.

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Especially.

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Snaps.

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Snaps, girl.

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Yes.

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And going back to that whole everyone's entitled to their own opinions phrase, which I don't

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mean to say that in such a condescending way.

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in their own lanes.

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Life isn't a highway.

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We are not expected to just stay in our own lanes.

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That's not how life works.

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That's not how healing works.

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It's not just a straight path.

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Rather, I like to think of it as like a winding road going through hilltops and valleys.

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and you might not see them and then you get scared.

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And I think it's really important that we see things that way and kind of smash this

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idea of staying quiet and not questioning things that we hear and not sticking up for

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other marginalized groups when we hear someone that maybe we like talking about things in

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a way that makes you feel uncomfortable.

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So be brave.

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That's my plea to you.

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Do the brave thing and speak up.

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Use your voice.

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Use things that you feel passionate about in your heart, in your gut.

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That's your inner truth.

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That's your higher self coming to your consciousness and saying, I feel strongly about this.

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This is wrong.

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This is right.

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And then doing something about it.

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and stew on how we feel about things, especially when they're new, especially when things are

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changing at the rate that they are right now.

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But doing something good with all of that once you come to that place of processing

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it and understanding what your options are for where to go from there.

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Good, good, Kat.

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And yeah, I think as you were giving us the winding road analogy, I was just thinking

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like, don't be scared to cut people off and inconvenience them.

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Because if we try to stay so pleasant, like how like that makes me want to like gag.

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Like we try so hard to be pleasant for every single person that we never want to add to

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inconvenience.

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at its core.

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When you stay pleasant around really blatantly obvious limiting perspectives that are causing

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hate and causing harm, we also yeah, we're not doing like what our part should be.

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And I yeah, I think your throat chakra has physical implications for you when you don't

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speak your truth and the truth that needs to come out into the world, not only for you

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physically and your health, your mental well-being, but also your surroundings and the people

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around you.

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So I love everything you said and it's a hell yes for me.

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And I think rather than thinking about that line of everyone's entitled to their own opinions,

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maybe shifting that focus of like, okay, we can agree to disagree when there's really

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no way to see eye to eye with someone.

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But then still, accepting that everyone, you know, we're going to see things differently.

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We don't have to see things the same way.

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And I know that in my heart, I had the conversation and maybe my thoughts inspired someone else

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or maybe lent themselves to another way of thinking that someone hadn't had before.

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During 2020, that was something that I really challenged myself with because historically

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I have been that person that my throat chakra gets closed, that I feel afraid to speak up

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that I think it's easier to just be quiet.

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2020 was a big year for me of like leaning into my truth.

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And so I've taken upon myself to not be quiet.

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to happen.

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And I still feel really good about that.

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I love your voice, Kat.

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And I love your feisty spirit that comes out too.

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It's one thing me and Kat have in common.

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We have a feist beneath our sweetness.

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Don't be fooled.

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But yeah, I always call myself like a seed planter.

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I feel like I just go around.

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I always envision myself like a little basket of seeds, just like seeds for thoughts, just

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left and right, just because, yeah, getting someone to question opposite perspective within

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a set belief is really important just to limit that.

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As we've talked about with the yoga philosophies, that non-attachment principle can be so important.

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And until you kind of learn how to see things in polars and opposites, I think it's kind

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of tough to sometimes realize how just like a little tiny line can make such a big difference.

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And changing someone's viewpoint way later, just hearing an opposite opinion can be so

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important.

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You don't have to do that out of like full hate and anger.

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I think you can do that in a very like tactful way.

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And another point I just want to bring up that I think is so important.

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I have seen the movie Everything Everywhere All at Once twice now, and I know Kat's seen

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it and I like it.

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I need to see it a second time to process.

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Freaking love it, man.

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And it just like really reiterates the point that you can have all this strength within

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your darkness and shadow sides and being able to engage in the...

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Being able to look at your shadows does give you this form of strength at times.

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But I also think it's so freaking important that we walk ourselves out of the shadows

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and return to a place where we're not just doing shadow work, but we are doing light

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work.

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We are able to see the good in things.

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We are able to imagine things even sometimes better than they are so that we can move forward

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and find a place where we can actually add to change in a positive direction.

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And also you can get so wallowed in that sadness that it's really tough to actually feel connected.

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You can dissociate when you take too much bad up.

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It's so bad for your body to focus so much on what is wrong that you don't have that

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sense of safety within your own body.

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So I think it's so important that we also remember that as beautiful as it is to learn

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to face your shadows, if you stay in the shadows and you don't walk that information back into

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a sense of light, you're also missing the duality that is where the actual power is.

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And I was reflecting a lot.

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I gave a passion speech to Dani about this last night.

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But I think there is so much beauty in letting yourself fail and be wrong.

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And I think where a lot of the pride and control and power gets to be this malicious sponsor

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is when you're so scared to be wrong that you are defending yourself at all costs.

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I think some of the most toxic people that are adding to this abuse story are just so

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terrified of being wrong that their ego is clinging to anything to not go there.

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And that's a trauma response.

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And just like, yeah, I think it's just so important that you let yourself break and

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be wrong and don't hold back.

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Even withholding information is a form of trying to not be wrong.

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I think we're so scared to look weak and look less than or look dumb or look unknowledgeable

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that we don't even go there in conversation and just remember that that is the ego.

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It's a lie and it leads to disconnection and it leads to, yeah, it honestly starts polarizing

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the collective to where we are not in unison.

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And that is definitely not going to lead to us being able to create a more beautiful place

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that we are a part of.

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And friends, don't be a martyr.

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Don't be a martyr.

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Don't go down for other people just because you love them.

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Stick up for yourself.

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That's a big part of this too.

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If you hear someone else that you really respect, going down the heavy side, you don't have

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to go with them all the time and just stay in that place.

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So that's what we mean by this balance of the light work, the shadow work, finding yourself

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somewhere in between and not getting stuck on one side or the other because that's what

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life's all about.

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That's the winding road.

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It's finding our way back home to this place of contentment.

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And a big part of that too is kind of like what we've been sharing, like tying it all

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in is the need to pause.

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The need to pause this work of self-study, of taking in everything from our external

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world, making sense of it, what it means to us, what to do with it, and just kind of being

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for a little bit, which when I first heard this was kind of a radical topic.

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Like what?

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I shouldn't just be constantly working on myself for the rest of eternity?

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Like no, because if you're constantly doing that, then you're sending yourself the message

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every now and again that you're not good enough as you are right now.

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And so we're doing this with the podcast, with this being our final episode of the season.

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We like to have this time to pause and allow you to integrate some of the topics that we

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have shared, reflect on the past six months, everything that's come up for you, and then

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intentionally get to look forward and maybe take this summer to chill and soak up some

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of the topics that you found interesting and learn more about them.

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Go a little bit deeper in your own way.

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Of course, reach out to us with any questions that you have, and we're happy to support

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you in that journey as we also take this time to pause and think about what's next for the

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podcast, for future episodes, and just in life too, to like relax, have a little vacation.

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And we so appreciate you being here with us.

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Our podcast continues to grow and all its analytics, and we're just so thankful for

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all of you guys that have been a part.

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We're also so thankful that we've started to be able to host Awaken Together events.

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Me and Kat got some Awaken Together stickers and have been handing them out all over town.

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Sticker bombing.

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Sticker bombing.

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Yes.

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And yeah, we are just super grateful.

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And just like we did after season one, we are offering a free event, close of season

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event.

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It's going to be Sunday, the 19th from 1 until 2 30 Mountain Time.

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And we're just going to help guide you guys through a little mini summer solstice ceremony

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as we shift into this new season.

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As we said, we want for there to be some integration, some pause, some reflection.

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So we're going to help guide you guys through that.

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We're going to do about a 30 minute yoga class just to get out of our minds and into our

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bodies, do a little space for journaling, and then open it up to all of our attendees

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to ask questions about any of the topics we covered in season two.

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And this is also where you can chime in and let us know some of the episodes you'd like

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to see for season three, which is going to start on September 2nd.

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Yes.

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So please stay tuned.

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Please, please join us.

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We love getting to hear about what was most impactful for you so that we can continue

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to make this podcast the best it can be for you.

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Our inner circle, we're so grateful and we'd love to just share space, not in person quite,

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but on Zoom.

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So still have that FaceTime.

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And you can sign up by going to either Jen's website or it's in the link of our Instagram

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bio, Awaken Together podcast on Instagram.

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And if you sign up there, you'll receive the Zoom link.

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And my website is SensefulWellness.com just so you have it.

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Yes.

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Thanks, Jen.

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So we hope to see you there.

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And really, thank you all so much.

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We're so, so grateful and we couldn't do this without you.

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We'll miss you.

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Love to you all.

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Love you.

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Bye.

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Happy summer.

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Bye.

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Bye.

