Hello, everyone, and welcome to the Awaken Together podcast.
I'm Jen.
And I'm Kat.
And today is our final episode of season two.
I literally do not even know how that is possible, reflecting on all of season one, now all of
season two.
And we are just so grateful to be here, and we thought today's episode, it would be amazing
just to kind of do an overview of everything we've talked about, not only in season two,
but just also going over how to integrate all of it so that as we take our pause between
seasons, you can reflect on everything we've covered and start to apply it to your life.
That's right.
Yeah.
So the season two podcast has flown by, it's come and gone, and we really want to lean
into this sense of newness and light this summer.
But first, we want to reflect on the past six months, and not only on our podcast, but
also outside of what we've been talking with you all here about in the greater world, because
we know a lot has happened outside as well.
Yes.
So spirituality is obviously what we have given you tons and tons of tools to reflect
with.
And I think our biggest thing that we want to make sure is understood is that as we've
given you guys a lot of different topics, it's not to stress you out that there's this
giant regimen that needs to be done to feel, yeah, like you're doing it right, quote unquote.
It's really just a ton of options so that if you're in a low place, you have things
you can turn to, perspectives that you can find to kind of walk yourself through it,
be with the heavy emotions and also to then move and return to a place that feels good
and comfortable in your life.
And so with the spiritual journey, it's going to look very different for every single person.
I try to be extremely careful, as I know Kat is, to not say something in a way where it's
a hundred percent like there's no ifs, ands or buts around it, because especially what
I know from astrology, every single person's soul path is so unique and so different.
And we have to honor that what is working for us doesn't always work for every single
person.
But I also think a lot of these concepts can give you so much more insight and make life
feel almost way more magical because we've seen it happen for a lot of people.
But that doesn't mean you can't mix and match the concepts that we have gone over to find
what is working for your personal life.
That's right.
I'm a big fan of options.
And like when I go to a restaurant, you know, it's like, I don't want to go to a place
that has three options.
No, I want to go to a place that has, you know, maybe like 10, 15.
Any more than that, I might get a little overwhelmed.
I'm not going to lie.
But when I have a different like smorgasbord to choose from, then I am able to like tip
my toe into a couple different waters and see what feels good in this moment.
Because as our spiritual journeys really progress, one thing might not feel great that used to
feel great.
And it's important that we honor that too.
So we in our episodes tried to give you like a taste of these high, you know, really high-power
tools so that you can identify like right off the bat from a little summary.
Is this something that I want to dig into more?
Or is this something that maybe I can tell a friend about who might be interested in
it?
Or is this something that I want to put on the shelf and return to at another time?
Absolutely.
And I like that you said, yeah, something that works.
You know, some of these tools have been at the forefront of my life and other times they've
been like pocketed and come back when I need them.
Like I've definitely waved in between the significance of a lot of the topics we have
covered as well.
So I'm going to go in first.
So this season was extra fun for me because as we know, I love the tools for self analysis.
So I'll do a quick overview on those things.
So we've covered astrology this season, human design, Enneagram.
And so all of these tools, when I first had them like fall onto my path, I remember taking
notebooks of notes and kind of writing down just what my birth chart said about me, what
my Enneagram told about me, what my human design has like brought in.
And using those concepts, I think I was able to find some perspective that the certain
qualities that I bring forward, I can honor those in a way that's very intentional.
And I don't have to be constantly building up other people's strengths that they have.
It doesn't mean that I have to find those strengths in my own life, too.
I can own what comes naturally to me and kind of, yeah, let go of the energy of the things
that don't come to me as naturally because it's not in like my gift.
You know, it's not in my gift set as much.
And I also said deeply in like the Enneagram episode, I think to first find a place of
self love, you have to know all the components of yourself.
So you have to be able not know all the components, but you should have a way to kind of get an
outside perspective on who you are and why you do what you do so that you can start to
pick those things apart and actually kind of get to a place where you're not so self
identifying.
I think if you think all of these qualities so deeply belong to you that you also can
tighten the grip and form such a rigid identity that it's really hard to accept viewpoints
that are different than you, accept people that function and move through life a little
bit different than you.
And so, yeah, I also think depersonalizing was very helpful with those tools so I could
kind of get out of my own way and not, yeah, not fuel my ego so much with these like rigid
identity markers that I couldn't.
Yeah, that I wasn't like I was judgmental to other people.
I had some judgment against myself.
And I think those tools for me were very helpful to kind of dissect that to where when I'm
doing something, I have a lot of thoughts about why I do what I do.
I can advertise myself a little better and I also think it's deeply helped with my communication
skills.
Know thyself.
It's all about embracing individuality both within ourselves and each other, I think.
And I so agree with all that, Jen.
I think as well as the ones that you shared, some of the ones that I really enjoyed talking
about and learning more about in doing so were, well, we all know psychedelics.
That was really fun to hear all of your feedback to our listeners on that one.
And I feel like we'll probably have to do a part two in the future based on what you
all said.
The power of the collective mindset.
That was another big one.
That was really how we started off this season.
And we have more to share on that one today too as a little cap off.
Even with the moon cycles, this has been something that in the past year or two I really, really
started to develop.
And Jen, I think that you were actually a big part of that for me.
So thank you.
I can feel it.
Thanks.
Yeah.
And Metta, the whole practice of loving, kindness, and compassion, giving yourself grace.
That is something that we all need more of, always in my opinion.
And then yoga.
We talked a lot about yoga this season and that's not something that will ever end because
we are yoga lovers through and through and it's completely changed our lives.
So yeah, to kind of compliment the ones you mentioned, we covered a lot this season.
And yeah, those practices and rituals we went over is really just to give you options to
bring it back to being intentional with what you are doing and also finding a system that
shows your growth.
I want to reiterate that for sure because with all of my plant medicine journalings
I've done, with all of my moon ceremony journalings I've done, all the notes I even took from
my Akashic record reading and all of that, it's been tools that when I reflect back in
my journals, I actually can see so much of my growth and I honestly don't always feel
my growth.
And so having a journal that I can reflect back on and be like, wow, I have come so far
since that mindset, I think it really, it can be really inspiring to see that when sometimes
it's yeah, it's hard to see how much you've actually changed because there's always a
new set of things that we're unpacking and learning about ourselves because every day
we go out into the world, we're absorbing and taking new stuff in.
And so it's a constant unlearning, relearning, unlearning, relearning, but I think we can
forget how far we've come without some form of documentation of yeah, yeah, you're just
growth.
And so I also think having those practices is so beautiful.
Now we want to take it to kind of a facing the heaviness mode because I have been feeling
super overwhelmed with like emotion with the landscape of just the political world, the
wars that are going on, the shooting we had happen, all the Roe v.
Multiple shootings.
Multiple.
Yes.
Like which one?
Yeah, seriously.
And Roe v. Wade definitely had me like very fired up too.
And I think there is a million reasons in this point in time where you can feel like
very hopeless.
And so we just kind of want to talk some of this out so that you can get yeah, you can
remember what the bigger journey is and find some perspective.
I think with the spiritual community and with this like intentional living, I think another
big responsibility we have is actually to feel this stuff because you know, not everyone
can set in the emotions of things and learn to take all of that pain and suffering and
transmute it into passion and actually channeling the stuff that we need to change and have
a voice in that adds to things being able to continue to shift for the better.
Just being able to sit and process and face that stuff instead of just numbing out and
avoiding all of it, I think is also a big responsibility of the spiritual community.
What do you think, Kat?
I agree.
I think that when all of these heavy, heavy things happen with the world, it can be all
too easy just to like block it all out and turn Netflix on or like whatever your preferred
method of numbing out is.
Maybe drinking or just like trying to avoid it all.
And it is up to us to be present and acknowledge all the shit that's happening and decide
where we fall with our opinions.
Talk with those that we respect and that we love and that we trust and also be open to
all of the other conversations that are happening.
And of course, we try to keep an open mind when we're listening to others that have
different views than us.
But we were talking about this before, Jen and I, as we were kind of prepping for this
episode, but we hear a lot that like everyone's entitled to their own opinions.
And yes, everyone is entitled to their own opinions, but it's only okay when no one's
being hurt.
That's my personal belief.
Would you agree?
Yeah.
And I, yeah.
As we were saying, I get very worried when I hear every single person wanting to just
stay in their lane and say, you know, everyone's entitled to their opinion.
Not to sound like we have to force down one type of opinion, but I also think there's
very damaging ways of thinking that if no one has conversations within some of those
concepts, it's going to be really hard for us to shift from some of the extremism mentality.
That is definitely what I feel as a spiritual community we're kind of facing and not against,
but having to deal with.
I think it's so important that we learn boundaries on protecting our energy and making
sure our cup is full.
But I also think the complete avoidance of going into uncomfortable conversations when
you clearly have a different perspective can also be very damaging for what I think our
goal is, and that's to get to a place where everyone is just, you know, able to receive
love and support and help, and we definitely are battling a very toxic way of thinking
that doesn't believe that everyone is entitled to, yeah, to equality and love and acceptance.
And so we have to use our voice, I think, at this time more than ever.
I feel like I was extremely triggered by all of the Roe v. Wade stuff and some of the political
landscape that's trying to take some of the rights of women away, because, you know,
this stuff in history, if we reflect back, has happened before.
I think we can see over and over again where people have been fighting for all voices to
be accepted and heard and stories that go shoved under the rug to be lifted and elevated
so that we have perspective on the suffering of all groups of people.
Because the second that expansiveness tries to happen, it's so historical that it gets
reframed as being crazy and extreme and wild, and then all these constructs come in to try
to re-box it in, because expansiveness is threatening.
And if we continue to expand to where there's not so much of a power structure in place,
then it takes a lot of people off of their throne and off of their power.
And so I think a reminder for me in this spiritual journey when I am feeling overwhelmed that
there is just nothing I can do at this point, because so much is happening that it feels
out of my hands.
I remember that there are people sharing their trauma stories.
There are people coming out.
There are people expanding on their uniqueness and being loud about their differences.
And while that is happening, that is the expansiveness we need to be able to bring so much light
into dark spaces that we cannot be contained back into smallness.
And so I think it's important that when you are saying how fucked up the world is and
how shitty it is, that you also are keeping the perspective that people are getting louder
about the things that used to get so repressed, so shoved down.
And that when you say that, you're also kind of in a way taking from their stories of being
able to expand in their own life.
So I think it's important we acknowledge the bad and sit with it and process it and
then transmute all of that heaviness into remembering that more people are doing what
we are hoping than ever before.
And if every single voice gets a chance to be heard, we are moving in a direction that
is actually more positive and is actually going to take down the structure that has
been so toxic for so freaking long, to be honest, especially in the US.
Especially.
Snaps.
Snaps, girl.
Yes.
And going back to that whole everyone's entitled to their own opinions phrase, which I don't
mean to say that in such a condescending way.
Yeah, it's worth looking at.
Yes.
So going back to that, like you said, that is basically saying that everyone should stay
in their own lanes.
But you know what?
Life isn't a highway.
We are not expected to just stay in our own lanes.
That's not how life works.
That's not how healing works.
It's not just a straight path.
Rather, I like to think of it as like a winding road going through hilltops and valleys.
And you know, sometimes it's going to be a tight corner and someone's coming around
and you might not see them and then you get scared.
And I think it's really important that we see things that way and kind of smash this
idea of staying quiet and not questioning things that we hear and not sticking up for
other marginalized groups when we hear someone that maybe we like talking about things in
a way that makes you feel uncomfortable.
So be brave.
That's my plea to you.
Do the brave thing and speak up.
Use your voice.
Use things that you feel passionate about in your heart, in your gut.
That's your inner truth.
That's your higher self coming to your consciousness and saying, I feel strongly about this.
This is wrong.
This is right.
And then doing something about it.
So being a part of the solution rather than the problem, of course, we have to feel it
and stew on how we feel about things, especially when they're new, especially when things are
changing at the rate that they are right now.
But doing something good with all of that once you come to that place of processing
it and understanding what your options are for where to go from there.
Good, good, Kat.
And yeah, I think as you were giving us the winding road analogy, I was just thinking
like, don't be scared to cut people off and inconvenience them.
Because if we try to stay so pleasant, like how like that makes me want to like gag.
Like we try so hard to be pleasant for every single person that we never want to add to
inconvenience.
And that is the exact way of thinking that lets toxicity and it perpetuates abuse truly
at its core.
When you stay pleasant around really blatantly obvious limiting perspectives that are causing
hate and causing harm, we also yeah, we're not doing like what our part should be.
And I yeah, I think your throat chakra has physical implications for you when you don't
speak your truth and the truth that needs to come out into the world, not only for you
physically and your health, your mental well-being, but also your surroundings and the people
around you.
So I love everything you said and it's a hell yes for me.
And I think rather than thinking about that line of everyone's entitled to their own opinions,
maybe shifting that focus of like, okay, we can agree to disagree when there's really
no way to see eye to eye with someone.
But then still, accepting that everyone, you know, we're going to see things differently.
We don't have to see things the same way.
And I know that in my heart, I had the conversation and maybe my thoughts inspired someone else
or maybe lent themselves to another way of thinking that someone hadn't had before.
During 2020, that was something that I really challenged myself with because historically
I have been that person that my throat chakra gets closed, that I feel afraid to speak up
that I think it's easier to just be quiet.
But no, no.
2020 was a big year for me of like leaning into my truth.
And so I've taken upon myself to not be quiet.
And if that means someone else is going to be uncomfortable, then that's what's going
to happen.
And I still feel really good about that.
I love your voice, Kat.
And I love your feisty spirit that comes out too.
It's one thing me and Kat have in common.
We have a feist beneath our sweetness.
Don't be fooled.
But yeah, I always call myself like a seed planter.
I feel like I just go around.
I always envision myself like a little basket of seeds, just like seeds for thoughts, just
left and right, just because, yeah, getting someone to question opposite perspective within
a set belief is really important just to limit that.
As we've talked about with the yoga philosophies, that non-attachment principle can be so important.
And until you kind of learn how to see things in polars and opposites, I think it's kind
of tough to sometimes realize how just like a little tiny line can make such a big difference.
And changing someone's viewpoint way later, just hearing an opposite opinion can be so
important.
You don't have to do that out of like full hate and anger.
I think you can do that in a very like tactful way.
And another point I just want to bring up that I think is so important.
I have seen the movie Everything Everywhere All at Once twice now, and I know Kat's seen
it and I like it.
I need to see it a second time to process.
Freaking love it, man.
And it just like really reiterates the point that you can have all this strength within
your darkness and shadow sides and being able to engage in the...
Being able to look at your shadows does give you this form of strength at times.
But I also think it's so freaking important that we walk ourselves out of the shadows
and return to a place where we're not just doing shadow work, but we are doing light
work.
We are able to see the good in things.
We are able to imagine things even sometimes better than they are so that we can move forward
and find a place where we can actually add to change in a positive direction.
And also you can get so wallowed in that sadness that it's really tough to actually feel connected.
You can dissociate when you take too much bad up.
It's so bad for your body to focus so much on what is wrong that you don't have that
sense of safety within your own body.
So I think it's so important that we also remember that as beautiful as it is to learn
to face your shadows, if you stay in the shadows and you don't walk that information back into
a sense of light, you're also missing the duality that is where the actual power is.
And I was reflecting a lot.
I gave a passion speech to Dani about this last night.
But I think there is so much beauty in letting yourself fail and be wrong.
And I think where a lot of the pride and control and power gets to be this malicious sponsor
is when you're so scared to be wrong that you are defending yourself at all costs.
I think some of the most toxic people that are adding to this abuse story are just so
terrified of being wrong that their ego is clinging to anything to not go there.
And that's a trauma response.
Absolutely.
Yes, absolutely.
And just like, yeah, I think it's just so important that you let yourself break and
be wrong and don't hold back.
Even withholding information is a form of trying to not be wrong.
I think we're so scared to look weak and look less than or look dumb or look unknowledgeable
that we don't even go there in conversation and just remember that that is the ego.
It's a lie and it leads to disconnection and it leads to, yeah, it honestly starts polarizing
the collective to where we are not in unison.
And that is definitely not going to lead to us being able to create a more beautiful place
that we are a part of.
Absolutely.
And friends, don't be a martyr.
Don't be a martyr.
Don't go down for other people just because you love them.
Stick up for yourself.
That's a big part of this too.
If you hear someone else that you really respect, going down the heavy side, you don't have
to go with them all the time and just stay in that place.
So that's what we mean by this balance of the light work, the shadow work, finding yourself
somewhere in between and not getting stuck on one side or the other because that's what
life's all about.
That's the winding road.
It's finding our way back home to this place of contentment.
And a big part of that too is kind of like what we've been sharing, like tying it all
in is the need to pause.
The need to pause this work of self-study, of taking in everything from our external
world, making sense of it, what it means to us, what to do with it, and just kind of being
for a little bit, which when I first heard this was kind of a radical topic.
Like what?
I shouldn't just be constantly working on myself for the rest of eternity?
Like no, because if you're constantly doing that, then you're sending yourself the message
every now and again that you're not good enough as you are right now.
And so we're doing this with the podcast, with this being our final episode of the season.
We like to have this time to pause and allow you to integrate some of the topics that we
have shared, reflect on the past six months, everything that's come up for you, and then
intentionally get to look forward and maybe take this summer to chill and soak up some
of the topics that you found interesting and learn more about them.
Go a little bit deeper in your own way.
Of course, reach out to us with any questions that you have, and we're happy to support
you in that journey as we also take this time to pause and think about what's next for the
podcast, for future episodes, and just in life too, to like relax, have a little vacation.
And we so appreciate you being here with us.
Our podcast continues to grow and all its analytics, and we're just so thankful for
all of you guys that have been a part.
We're also so thankful that we've started to be able to host Awaken Together events.
Me and Kat got some Awaken Together stickers and have been handing them out all over town.
Sticker bombing.
Yes.
And yeah, we are just super grateful.
And just like we did after season one, we are offering a free event, close of season
event.
It's going to be Sunday, the 19th from 1 until 2 30 Mountain Time.
And we're just going to help guide you guys through a little mini summer solstice ceremony
as we shift into this new season.
As we said, we want for there to be some integration, some pause, some reflection.
So we're going to help guide you guys through that.
We're going to do about a 30 minute yoga class just to get out of our minds and into our
bodies, do a little space for journaling, and then open it up to all of our attendees
to ask questions about any of the topics we covered in season two.
And this is also where you can chime in and let us know some of the episodes you'd like
to see for season three, which is going to start on September 2nd.
Yes.
So please stay tuned.
Please, please join us.
We love getting to hear about what was most impactful for you so that we can continue
to make this podcast the best it can be for you.
Our inner circle, we're so grateful and we'd love to just share space, not in person quite,
but on Zoom.
So still have that FaceTime.
And you can sign up by going to either Jen's website or it's in the link of our Instagram
bio, Awaken Together podcast on Instagram.
And if you sign up there, you'll receive the Zoom link.
And my website is SensefulWellness.com just so you have it.
Yes.
Thanks, Jen.
So we hope to see you there.
And really, thank you all so much.
We're so, so grateful and we couldn't do this without you.
We'll miss you.
Love to you all.
Love you.
Bye.
Happy summer.
Bye.