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Hello and welcome to a new episode of the Awaken Together podcast.

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I'm Kat.

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I'm Jen.

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And in today's episode, we're talking all things sound healing.

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How utilizing the sense of sound can clear energetic blockages, connect you with your

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inner voice, and help heal the collective at large.

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Sounds great.

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Yes.

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Oh, you're so, you're so cute.

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So to give you a little description if sound healing is new to you, sound healing is also

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known as sonotherapy and it allows the body and mind to regain their full vitality by

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restoring their natural frequencies.

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And this involves applying different frequencies and therapeutic sounds around the body by

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singing or using tools like tuning forks, crystal bowls, drums, flutes, bells, gongs,

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and rattles.

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Yes.

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And so if you have never had like a spiritual experience, I really think sounds a really

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cool avenue to explore.

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It was where I definitely had some of my first moments where I was like, I think this existence

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might be more than what I perceive.

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I recently watched a documentary called The Sound of Creation that was on Gaia and they

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mentioned a couple of fun facts that like really stuck with me.

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One of them being that the ear to brain connection is actually three times more than the connection

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of the eyes to the brain.

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So that was one of them.

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The other one is that sound is the very first sense that the fetus creates.

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And then from that sense of sound and that perceptiveness to vibration, the whole fetus

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continues to grow and develop.

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So clearly there is a higher link to sound and its benefit for our physical bodies.

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Absolutely, and we're going to get a little nerdy with you to start.

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So my science people, I hope you'll be happy for this.

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We're going to talk about brain waves for a moment to really help like hammer this in.

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So there are four types of brain wave patterns that we experience on a daily basis.

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There are beta, alpha, theta, and delta.

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Betas are usual waking state of alertness and beta waves, the brain is in concentration

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in activity mode and it runs in a low level of stress, like a healthy level.

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And then alpha waves occur when the brain is running at a slightly lower activity level.

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The brain's in a meditative pre-sleep trance like state of consciousness.

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Third, theta waves, they occur when we're in deep REM sleep.

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This is when your brain processes and basically decides what to remember or store in your

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greater knowledge bank.

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Theta waves are the lowest level of brain activity, which occur when the brain powers

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down allowing physical healing and growth to take place.

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And for example, during a yoga practice, we want the brain to be balanced somewhere in

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between beta and alpha, ending in a really blissful alpha state during Shavasana.

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Because it's here that the brain increases its production of dopamine, which is the feel

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good happiness hormone.

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And sound healing really helps regulate the brain waves to encourage an alpha state wave

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pattern so that we can relax more fully.

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Love it.

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And yeah, I think there's been able to be a lot more profound study on sound in general

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because now we can see like how it affects the brain and body like so much more.

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So I think that you're starting to see a lot more accessibility to different sound methods.

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I explore YouTube all the time for this stuff.

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I've been falling asleep with Delta waves and finding that I like sleep so much better

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when I have that just on in the background.

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And it's really wild that our brain responds to the frequency so different and what that

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looks like and how our whole body is functioning and running.

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The first thing we want to delve into is going to be sound baths.

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So this is something that if you Google in your area, you might be able to find some

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people that that host sound bath meditations.

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The very first one I ever went to would have been when I was still living in Florida early

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on in my spiritual journey.

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And I just remember this teacher having about five crystal bowls and she started chiming

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them at the end of a yoga class.

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And I was blown away because there was so much physical sensation in my body from the

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vibration of sound that I had no problem meditating, which was just an epiphany for me because

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I had never experienced that sort of calm.

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And having those sound bowls, a lot of times you'll feel them like bounce in between your,

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it feels as though they're bouncing between your ears.

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It's like it clears out all of my excessive thoughts and that sensory input for me, especially

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probably with my fact I'm neurodivergent and have like the ADHD diagnosis, that extra sensory

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input was life changing and definitely helped me meditate deeper than I had before.

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Yeah, I've had a really profound experience at a gong bath myself.

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And the only real difference between a gong bath and a sound bath is that a gong bath has

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a gong and it usually has some other tools as well.

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This one had all the tools I referenced before rattles, gong, crystal bowl, tuning forks,

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like you name it.

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It was there.

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It was, if you're in Denver, it was at this studio called Samadhi, which is one of the

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like staple studios that's been in Denver for a really long time here.

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And it was with this teacher who is very experienced.

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His name is Gary.

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I'm going to blank on his last name.

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I think it's Apparel or Apparel or something like that, but he's absolutely wonderful and

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really a magician when it comes to sound.

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And so at the beginning of class, we got to come and pick some crystals that we could

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lay on our chakras for the meditation.

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And I remember I chose one and I put it on my third eye center and then laid down, got

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really comfy on my mat with bolsters and blankets and blocks and just kind of settled in for

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the experience.

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This is my first official sound bath experience, so I didn't really know what to expect.

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And he started and time just flew by.

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I started seeing visuals.

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Like first it started out really subtly with some ripples.

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Like if you throw a pebble into a pond and you see that like ripple out, I was seeing

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that with my eyes closed.

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And I've shared here on the podcast before that I'm very clairvoyant.

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So that's the sense that comes through for me energetically the most.

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I see things with my eyes closed.

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And there was another point where the frequency picked up and I was flying, zooming in between

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tunnels and around these tubes.

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And there was another point where everything just stopped and I saw this little girl's

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face and I'm like, what is happening?

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Once it was, once it ended, I couldn't wait to talk about the experience with my friends

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and my partner who had come with me.

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And the first thing I asked was, what did everyone see just wanting to nerd out and

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connect on that?

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And they were like, oh, I saw some ripples.

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I was like, yeah, me too.

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But like what else?

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And that was really it.

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And I swear to God, I had a psychedelic experience completely sober.

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And that's the power that sound has.

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Absolutely.

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And so I also had a very similar like, whoa moment, like beyond just the physical senses.

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I in teacher training, we learned about all the different chakra points and we learned

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that there is a root sound that can vibrate for each of the main energy centers.

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And so we were doing this group chanting of Lam, Ram, just like working our way up.

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And we probably did it for like 30 minutes and I had a full out of body experience.

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I remember, I remember opening my eyes and I was just in this purple space and it didn't

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matter if my eyes were open.

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My eyes were closed.

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I was just in this.

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I could barely feel my body.

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I felt it was a beautiful feeling.

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This purple was so vivid and so beautiful.

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And when we got called out of that meditation, I was like, okay, like that was a real game

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changer.

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Like what is this existence?

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That was my takeaway.

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So yeah.

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So cool.

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So cool.

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And yeah, it has been proven that the different chakras are linked with different frequencies.

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This is something that you can look up.

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They have lots of charts if you literally Google chakras and their frequencies and it

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will tell you the different notes associated with each one of them and then the different

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frequencies in numeric form.

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And they have sound bowls that actually will stay in tune to those frequencies.

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So if you know you have a chakra that is especially troublesome for you, you can take like they

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have quizzes online where you can look at that, or maybe you get that kind of input

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from going to an energy practitioner.

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But yeah, if you focus on that frequency, you can often get that energy wheel working

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a little bit stronger.

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Absolutely.

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And another big place that you can experience sound healing is music shows, festivals, experiencing

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music live.

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There's something really special that happens when you can even just close your eyes or

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even close your ears and just feel the sound waves vibrating around you.

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It's a full body experience and there's something really, really special that happens.

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For me, I get the thought of when the bass drops and everyone's charging up for the moment,

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start hopping around and going crazy and just thinking about tea kettle and releasing all

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of its steam, it's just that moment of celebration and ecstasy and joy.

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And everyone's cheering at the top of their lungs and it just feels like a sea of unity,

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having this communal experience of celebrating sound and life, making your own sound, celebrating

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in the sounds that you're all hearing and just feeling like a hug of the energy waves

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around you.

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I have not yet had the chance to go to a full blown music festival.

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I know Kat will drag me one of these days.

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We're changing that soon.

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Very soon.

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But it's funny, I reflect back.

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I grew up in the Christian church.

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That was my upbringing.

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I was in church three to four days a week.

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I even dated two musicians from the church at different points.

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And it's just funny because I think really my link to church for so long and one of the

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reasons that it just felt like such a special space for me, even amidst a lot of the things

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that I've had to definitely unlearn and heal from.

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But the music at church and singing with an entire group, I remember I used to get goosebumps

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all the time.

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I would feel really deeply connected, almost like I could draw a line to all of the people

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in the space.

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I remember that so vividly.

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So there was definitely an element where the music and coming together really mattered

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and really felt like it was coming from a higher source or just a higher sense of connection.

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I think that's what kept me in that space for so long without really doing a lot of

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reflection on some of the other components, to be honest.

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Chanting is a really, really powerful way to connect with yourself, with God, goddess,

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universe, whatever you'd like to call it, and each other.

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So we see that in the ways that we shared, but we also see it in studies that have been

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done.

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So a few things to go into.

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I think that there, I learned a lot of these in teacher training, but the science is definitely

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there and there's a lot of different ways you can look into this, but they have really

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been able to study the significance of our voice and how the words that we say and speak

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actually can make a really profound difference on how things form.

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So one of the biggest studies that we talked about in yoga teacher training was the study

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of water, where they would speak to water in this beautiful way or even sing to it as

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it was freezing and it would form these very beautiful symmetrical patterns that had all

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this complexity to it versus when they yelled at the water as it was freezing, it would

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create these really rough patterns and just no symmetry to it.

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They've also been able to replicate that study with rice, where they took a jar of rice that,

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they took three jars of rice, one that was left alone, one that was spoken to positively

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and one that was spoken to negatively, the one that was isolated and the one that was

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spoke to negatively molded, didn't have any growth versus you saw this beautiful fermenting

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in life being established by the one that was spoke to positively and they've been able

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to replicate that study over and over again.

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I think as an energy healer and someone that's worked with many people and their energy bodies,

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I think one of the biggest things I feel most consistently is people's throat space being

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smaller than some of the other energy centers in their body.

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That's me.

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Because it's like so, our culture, it's tricky to use your voice because there can be a lot

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of ramifications from speaking certain things.

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Shame.

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I think there's a lot of shame behind, yeah, you probably have a story where your voice

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at one point ended up not being heard or being taken the wrong way.

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We can get a lot of pushback on wanting to actually say what we're meaning, what we're

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thinking, but our throat and our words, they create a vibration for our body and especially

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when we get used to using our voice with intention and making sure that what we're speaking is

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actually adding to someone's experience, not taking away and we use our words for good,

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not for bad.

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I think there is definitely a way to state something that's hard without having to do

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it in such a harsh way because I do think the words that we speak matter because our

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body listens to that, not just in the tightening that comes with saying something difficult,

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but also there's a vibration component when we're speaking our truth as well.

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When you think about it, the voice is the vehicle in which your inner world becomes

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external, in which you're able to bring your magic from inside, all of the thoughts and

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feelings and emotions and energy really from yourself and you're able to share that.

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It's a really incredible and beautiful tool that I don't think we necessarily think of

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it that way a lot of the time.

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Then the other study that I thought was so cool that if you have not ever watched this,

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I highly recommend going on a deep dive, but they've been able to play with these plates

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that they can vibrate at different frequencies and they've been able to put sand on those

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plates and practice the patterns that develop at different frequencies within those little

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sand particles.

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What they have determined is the higher frequency that they shake the plate, the more evolved

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these shapes and patterns come out.

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If you see them, it is these beautiful shapes.

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They're not just a little fun arrangement.

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There is something really, really profound there that I think you can tap into in a lot

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of ways and as you meditate more and you see these patterns and shapes evolve, even looking

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at mandalas and just this, the beautiful sacred geometry, I think we can see that there's

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these beautiful shapes within nature that consistently pop up.

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I think those shapes, when you look at some of the patterns that are created by different

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sound and vibration, it looks similar to some of the patterns we see in nature.

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I think sound in itself, yeah, higher realm, higher connection, connection to the universe,

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definitely worth exploring.

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Absolutely.

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And every frequency that is known can be found in nature.

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And that I think is so special because nature is so wise and so intuitive and all knowing

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that it just creates naturally all the things that we're able to hear.

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And one way that I've been taught the sound of the universe is om.

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That's what we learn in yoga teacher training.

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And when we all chant om together, basically without even saying it, we're all connecting

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to the sound of the universe, which is universal, speaks no language, and it's just a sound

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that we can all get behind.

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And that creates a lot of soothing, relaxing sensations.

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And thinking about my plants at home, it's something I love to practice.

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You were just sharing, Jen, about speaking sweet nothings and seeing how they flourish.

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And we have 32 plants in our house.

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I mean, it could be a full-time job just speaking sweetly to all of that.

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Someone's got to do it.

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I'm just kidding.

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But it is fun to see and to put that extra level of care and love into living things.

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Yep, absolutely.

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And yeah, when we were doing our cacao ceremony at the retreat, I was speaking love to the

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cacao.

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I told everyone in the kitchen, while you cook, just our words have such an impact and

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are a form of sound.

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I think remembering that will help you bring some intention back into that space.

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I wrote the quote from Tesla.

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If you want to find the secrets of the universe, think in terms of energy, frequency, and vibration.

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I love it.

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It's such a good one.

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And Tesla, wow, I'm impressed.

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So then kind of on the flip side, we wanted to end with silence because silence, it's

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the polarity of sound, right?

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It's kind of the inverse, the opposite.

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And it's super important to create space for a silent vortex, especially as an integration

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space after listening to sound.

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You might, if you listen to loud music like me, hear a ringing in your ears afterwards,

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tinnitus, which, you know, that's why it's also important to have the silence to kind

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of let that settle down and give your ears a little bit of a break.

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Dead time allows you as a practitioner to absorb the therapeutic effects of sound.

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And really, it's just as important as sound itself.

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Sometimes we play music constantly in order to avoid silence when really silence is such

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an important portal to really just open up our perspective to what might be lying underneath

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the surface that we've been distracting from.

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And if silence is difficult for you, I definitely have had a journey with that.

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I think that was the top thing I avoided and had to work on and develop in my practice.

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Yeah, playing around with ways to get out energy first, or yeah, even working through

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a sound bath and then ending in silence, doing some kind of added sensory input or a way

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to get rid of excess energy will allow you to sit in that silence better.

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So don't think that you're abnormal for not being able to just sit and drop into silence

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right away.

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Like using some of these practices to build on each other to lead up to a more silent

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practice is definitely a good system to play with.

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We hope this episode was interesting for you.

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We'd also love to learn about your relationship with sound and music.

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You can find us on Instagram at Awaken Together podcast or our Instagram pages, Katarina O'Erikson

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and Sons Full Wellness.

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And just like we did last season, we are going to be hosting an end of season two event for

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you.

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The last episode of the season is going to be next Friday and then on Sunday the 19th,

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we are going to be offering a summer solstice event free to all of our listeners.

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To sign up for that, go to SonsFullWellness.com and look under the events.

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It's a free sign up, but just so you receive the Zoom link to enter, we're going to be

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doing some yoga.

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We're going to be guiding you through intention settings for the summer.

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And then we're also going to leave open space to discuss anything you want to bring up for

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season two.

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This is also where you can chime in and give suggestions for what you want out of season

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three.

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Once again, thank you guys for all your support.

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Yes, and we hope to see you there.

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We will see you next time.

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Bye.

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