1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:07,800 Hello and welcome to a new episode of the Awaken Together podcast. 2 00:00:07,800 --> 00:00:08,800 I'm Kat. 3 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:09,800 I'm Jen. 4 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:15,680 And in today's episode, we are doing a deep dive in the Enneagram. 5 00:00:15,680 --> 00:00:16,680 The Enneagram. 6 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:17,680 Yay! 7 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:18,680 Jen is stoked. 8 00:00:18,680 --> 00:00:19,680 This is like her world. 9 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:21,680 I'm a nerd on Enneagram. 10 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:25,280 How many times have we referenced Enneagram and this episode hasn't happened? 11 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:26,280 So we are here. 12 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:27,280 It is happening. 13 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:28,280 It's overdue. 14 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:30,520 We are so excited for it. 15 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:35,040 So if you are unfamiliar with the Enneagram, just to give you a little bit of info before 16 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:41,520 I hand it off to Jen and she takes us away into another realm with it, Enneagram is a 17 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:44,460 language rather than a personality quiz. 18 00:00:44,460 --> 00:00:49,120 So while many other behavioral systems and personality typing models are really based 19 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:56,040 towards the what and the how of what you do, Enneagram is different because it is really 20 00:00:56,040 --> 00:01:02,600 focused on the ability of describing what motivates you and why you engage in the world 21 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:05,280 that way, the way that you do. 22 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:11,400 And Enneagram, it can help you figure out what things trigger you and understand that 23 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:17,820 we all react disproportionately to different dynamics or different emotions. 24 00:01:17,820 --> 00:01:21,220 And it helps us understand why that is. 25 00:01:21,220 --> 00:01:27,700 It also helps us identify our reactive behaviors to stress and also points out that we have 26 00:01:27,700 --> 00:01:30,800 choices in how we respond. 27 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:31,960 Absolutely. 28 00:01:31,960 --> 00:01:38,240 And I highly recommend if you have never taken an Enneagram test that you maybe pause the 29 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:41,200 episode and go and take it so you know what your number is. 30 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:45,720 That's going to help you as you go through this episode to kind of hear maybe what fits 31 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:46,720 for you. 32 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:52,920 Yeah, one website that we recommend, well, if you want to do that right now, it's to 33 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:55,780 go to eclecticenergies.com. 34 00:01:55,780 --> 00:01:59,280 You could Google Eclectic Energies Enneagram test. 35 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:03,200 It's free, whereas some of the other websites try to charge you. 36 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:05,360 So this is a good one that we found. 37 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:06,360 Definitely. 38 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:10,680 And then you have your number and you might get a result that has a number with a little 39 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:13,120 W and another number. 40 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:18,520 So we'll talk about what that means to have a little wing, but whatever number comes first 41 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:20,880 on your result, that is your main type. 42 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:24,000 And I will explain what all of that means as we go along. 43 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:33,120 But the Enneagram for me, I probably discovered it, I want to say about four years ago, and 44 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:38,760 it was one of the first tools that I think really helped me see myself from an outside 45 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:40,220 perspective. 46 00:02:40,220 --> 00:02:45,040 We talk a lot about self analysis and kind of figuring out why you do what you do, which 47 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:47,840 is kind of dismantling the ego. 48 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:55,280 I feel like the Enneagram gave me a beautiful checklist of what my fears were, how I responded 49 00:02:55,280 --> 00:03:00,960 in stress, where my ease and growth was what inspired me. 50 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:06,280 And I was able to really work with a lot of my childhood wounds with my Enneagram number. 51 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:10,680 I felt like it was one of the best tools for shadow work. 52 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:17,320 And when I got into it, I had a lot of my friends, a lot of my family take this test 53 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:23,480 and I was really able to look at the interpersonal connection between numbers, look at why we 54 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:25,600 hit rough patches and stuff. 55 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:33,280 And I felt like it really helped me depersonalize a lot of the responses people have. 56 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:39,040 It's sometimes hard to remember that we each are battling kind of our own, yeah, our own 57 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:46,280 way of being based on our past experiences, behaviors, family dynamics, traumas. 58 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:50,160 And a lot of times when we see someone respond a certain way, we can say, why did they have 59 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:51,160 to act like that? 60 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:52,640 That doesn't make any sense. 61 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:56,600 And you can take it really personal and feel hurt by others actions. 62 00:03:56,600 --> 00:04:01,400 The Enneagram for me helped to kind of give a way to view other people and to do it in 63 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:06,360 a way where I'm extending compassion to their own personal quirks. 64 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:11,540 And it also helped me kind of come up with more communication strategies because once 65 00:04:11,540 --> 00:04:17,040 I knew the motive behind a lot of numbers, I was able to use that as a tool to better 66 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:18,440 understand people. 67 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:20,080 And that for me was huge. 68 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:24,000 Yeah, can be really easy to judge people when you don't know where they're coming from. 69 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:25,000 Right. 70 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:30,360 So I know you have had like everyone in your life do the Enneagram test to have this like 71 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:31,360 greater understanding. 72 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:34,240 And I have like pretty much all the people closest to me. 73 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:35,440 I know their numbers too. 74 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:36,440 It's so helpful. 75 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:37,440 Absolutely. 76 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:38,720 So let's do it. 77 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:42,840 I'm going to give you a breakdown of each of the types. 78 00:04:42,840 --> 00:04:45,720 And there are nine Enneagram types. 79 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:50,200 So we'll go through the list just so you can hear what all the numbers are and then we'll 80 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:52,080 take it from there. 81 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:55,280 So type one is the very first one. 82 00:04:55,280 --> 00:04:57,560 They are known as the perfectionist. 83 00:04:57,560 --> 00:05:03,480 They are very ethical, dedicated and reliable, and they are motivated by a desire to live 84 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:08,580 the right way to improve the world and avoid fault and blame. 85 00:05:08,580 --> 00:05:13,360 So this is definitely your standard like type A personality. 86 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:19,860 Type one's a really come off strong and doing things kind of in a checklist form. 87 00:05:19,860 --> 00:05:26,520 Type twos are the helpers, cough cat. 88 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:29,600 They are known as being warm, caring and giving. 89 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:35,840 They are motivated by a need to be loved and needed and to avoid acknowledging their own 90 00:05:35,840 --> 00:05:36,960 needs. 91 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:41,600 So that is their top struggle is putting so much work into other people that sometimes 92 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:44,120 their own needs go neglected. 93 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:48,160 I'm also married to a type two, but we'll get into that. 94 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:50,340 The next type is type three. 95 00:05:50,340 --> 00:05:53,740 They are known as the achievers, the performers. 96 00:05:53,740 --> 00:05:59,120 They are success oriented, image conscious and are wired for productivity. 97 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:07,080 They are motivated by a need to be or appear to be successful and to avoid failure. 98 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:11,960 Type threes are like our traditional like workaholics that are like in the office all 99 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:14,160 day long. 100 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:17,160 Type fours are known as the individualists. 101 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:20,400 I've also seen them referred to as the romantics. 102 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:23,480 They are creative, sensitive and moody. 103 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:29,040 They are motivated by a need to be understood and experience their oversized feeling and 104 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:31,280 avoid being ordinary. 105 00:06:31,280 --> 00:06:36,440 Another term for type fours is like the starving artists that like nobody understands me. 106 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:39,800 So I'll channel it into my work. 107 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:43,080 Type fives are known as the investigators. 108 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:44,080 They are analytical. 109 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:46,920 They can be a bit detached and private. 110 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:53,200 They are motivated by a need to gain knowledge, conserve energy and avoid relying on others. 111 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:55,920 These are people known as your classic introverts. 112 00:06:55,920 --> 00:07:01,400 They usually, a lot of people say they like hardly ever meet type fives because type fives 113 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:05,360 are not leaving the house nearly as much as the other members. 114 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:12,520 My dad's a type five and he has been in his room since 1962. 115 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:15,440 Type sixes, this is me. 116 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:16,840 They are the loyalists. 117 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:19,920 They are committed, practical and witty. 118 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:26,140 They are worst case scenario thinkers who are motivated by fear and a need for security. 119 00:07:26,140 --> 00:07:30,000 So type sixes are most commonly your comedians. 120 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:36,280 They have like that anxiety that they channel into like dark humor or sarcastic humor. 121 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:41,160 That's usually your sixes, but underneath it is a pretty anxious temperament. 122 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:46,760 Type sevens are the enthusiasts, fun, spontaneous and adventurous. 123 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:52,840 They are motivated by a need to be happy and plan stimulating experiences and to avoid 124 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:53,840 pain. 125 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:56,720 In type sevens, it's not just casual. 126 00:07:56,720 --> 00:07:57,720 They avoid pain. 127 00:07:57,720 --> 00:07:59,440 Like they really avoid pain. 128 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:03,440 Like if you even tried to talk to them about something deeper, they're the type that'll 129 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:08,480 like, yeah, start turning up the music and just start dancing like complete avoidant 130 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:15,760 behavior, but they are so fun to be around because they will just completely not go into 131 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:18,920 any of the dark side of things. 132 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:21,200 Type eights are known as the challengers. 133 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:24,360 They are commanding and tense and confrontational. 134 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:29,720 They are motivated by a need to be strong and avoid feeling weak or vulnerable. 135 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:31,680 Type eights are known as your debaters. 136 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:37,080 They're the people that often want to constantly provoke in some type of way, like ask you a 137 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:41,960 question like, well, why would you think that they're traditionally the ones that are going 138 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:45,760 to kind of stir the fire in social settings? 139 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:48,960 And then type nine, our final number is the peacekeeper. 140 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:51,960 They are pleasant, laid back and accommodating. 141 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:58,000 They are motivated by a need to keep the peace, merge with others and avoid conflict. 142 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:03,300 Type nines are also kind of get the stereotype of being lazier. 143 00:09:03,300 --> 00:09:06,680 They need more recharge time than any other number. 144 00:09:06,680 --> 00:09:11,960 And they are also, they usually are found really trying to wind themselves down because 145 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:14,320 they absorb a lot. 146 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:18,440 So that is the general overview of all the types. 147 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:24,200 But I wanted to let you know that as you take the test, when you get that main number, there 148 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:28,000 is a number that you'll get your main type. 149 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:29,840 So let's use me as an example. 150 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:31,280 I am a type six. 151 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:37,160 Well, with each number, you have a number that you near when you're going towards growth 152 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:43,440 or ease, and then a number you become more when you're in a stressful situation. 153 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:47,800 And it's really important to get to know both of those numbers as well. 154 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:53,540 So as you do kind of a deeper dive on what your own number is, and the Enneagram Institute 155 00:09:53,540 --> 00:09:56,600 is kind of the main site that'll pop up when you Google it. 156 00:09:56,600 --> 00:10:00,780 So you can read about your main number, but I would also go on a deep dive into your growth 157 00:10:00,780 --> 00:10:03,240 number and your stress number. 158 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:07,480 And we will review a little bit more of what that means in a little bit. 159 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:12,560 But I also wanted to let you know about what wings are because wings are something that'll 160 00:10:12,560 --> 00:10:15,000 come up often in your test result. 161 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:20,360 So if you are a type six like me, you could be a wing five or a wing seven. 162 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:24,940 So you can have a little bit of the number beside your number. 163 00:10:24,940 --> 00:10:28,920 So cats a type two, she could have a wing one or a wing three. 164 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:30,580 She has a wing three. 165 00:10:30,580 --> 00:10:33,380 And for me, I am a six wing seven. 166 00:10:33,380 --> 00:10:38,700 So I have a little bit of that seven side, but your wings can kind of change out. 167 00:10:38,700 --> 00:10:42,340 You can kind of embody both of the numbers a little bit beside you. 168 00:10:42,340 --> 00:10:47,340 But often when you do your test, it'll tell you what your wing is most likely. 169 00:10:47,340 --> 00:10:51,840 And you're probably going to feel like although you mainly have the energy of your main number, 170 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:55,680 you probably feel that you embody a little bit of the qualities of that number next to 171 00:10:55,680 --> 00:10:56,680 you. 172 00:10:56,680 --> 00:10:57,680 Makes sense? 173 00:10:57,680 --> 00:11:01,900 Yes, thank you so much for explaining all of that. 174 00:11:01,900 --> 00:11:04,020 It's amazing just to go through and hear. 175 00:11:04,020 --> 00:11:09,000 And I'm sure even our listeners, as you're hearing these types, these numbers and the 176 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:13,680 qualities to it, you might be considering people in your life already who you don't 177 00:11:13,680 --> 00:11:19,400 know their numbers and you're kind of putting them, giving them, allocating them numbers 178 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:24,380 because you can intuitively kind of understand this stuff. 179 00:11:24,380 --> 00:11:29,620 But it's also interesting, I think, to guess someone's number and then ask them like what 180 00:11:29,620 --> 00:11:31,180 they got on the test to. 181 00:11:31,180 --> 00:11:32,180 Yeah. 182 00:11:32,180 --> 00:11:33,180 Oh my gosh. 183 00:11:33,180 --> 00:11:37,540 I feel like I'm always pretty spot on when I guess somebody's number, but it is fascinating 184 00:11:37,540 --> 00:11:41,300 because with the stress and growth numbers, you might see a little bit more of the other 185 00:11:41,300 --> 00:11:46,140 side of that person than what they kind of mainly are functioning on. 186 00:11:46,140 --> 00:11:47,140 But yeah. 187 00:11:47,140 --> 00:11:48,140 Oh my gosh. 188 00:11:48,140 --> 00:11:53,220 When I first learned the Enneagram, I read a few books on it and faces were just popping 189 00:11:53,220 --> 00:11:54,540 into my head for each one. 190 00:11:54,540 --> 00:11:56,780 I'm like, that is definitely it. 191 00:11:56,780 --> 00:12:02,660 I made my husband's entire family take it to my mother-in-law, my sister-in-law. 192 00:12:02,660 --> 00:12:05,420 I was like, I got to know everybody's number. 193 00:12:05,420 --> 00:12:08,980 But let's talk about our own little personal experience with it, Kat. 194 00:12:08,980 --> 00:12:12,980 So I'd love to hear you explain your number and just what Enneagram's done for you. 195 00:12:12,980 --> 00:12:16,060 And then we'll get back into some nerdy information. 196 00:12:16,060 --> 00:12:17,060 Yeah. 197 00:12:17,060 --> 00:12:18,060 Awesome. 198 00:12:18,060 --> 00:12:26,700 So when I, I've gone through this big spiritual awakening in the past, oh, seven years, I'd 199 00:12:26,700 --> 00:12:30,020 say, which is crazy to actually say seven years. 200 00:12:30,020 --> 00:12:31,020 What? 201 00:12:31,020 --> 00:12:32,020 Whoa, time flies. 202 00:12:32,020 --> 00:12:39,780 But I used to be a very much an achiever, total type three. 203 00:12:39,780 --> 00:12:46,740 And then once I started really understanding the way that I am, why I am the way that I 204 00:12:46,740 --> 00:12:54,100 am, diving into more personality tests, questioning things, understanding my beliefs separate from 205 00:12:54,100 --> 00:12:59,940 what I've been taught to believe as true, my type started to change. 206 00:12:59,940 --> 00:13:05,060 And I'm really excited for you to get into the growth pieces and the challenging pieces 207 00:13:05,060 --> 00:13:12,340 next because seeing yourself in different types is a big part of this practice for me 208 00:13:12,340 --> 00:13:13,340 anyway. 209 00:13:13,340 --> 00:13:20,540 So I went from more of this like super hyper achiever to the helper. 210 00:13:20,540 --> 00:13:26,340 And I guess I've always kind of been the helper in some ways, but now like there's no question 211 00:13:26,340 --> 00:13:32,260 in my mind and it's aligned with what I do in my career. 212 00:13:32,260 --> 00:13:35,860 It's aligned with how I show up in my friendships. 213 00:13:35,860 --> 00:13:41,660 And it helps me bring understanding of like, okay, my people pleasing tendencies are the 214 00:13:41,660 --> 00:13:45,180 way they are because of my enneagram type. 215 00:13:45,180 --> 00:13:51,220 Like my enneagram type is that way because of the way I've been brought up and just all 216 00:13:51,220 --> 00:13:53,660 the things I've been taught in my conditioning. 217 00:13:53,660 --> 00:13:54,660 So yeah. 218 00:13:54,660 --> 00:13:59,620 So you're a two wing three or maybe even a three wing two at some point in time. 219 00:13:59,620 --> 00:14:03,340 So you're kind of bouncing between those two numbers. 220 00:14:03,340 --> 00:14:07,540 So we'll use cat as an example for stress and growth and I can share it in my own personal 221 00:14:07,540 --> 00:14:09,720 and then I'll give us a nice list. 222 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:10,980 So there is a theory. 223 00:14:10,980 --> 00:14:12,780 It's called soul child theory. 224 00:14:12,780 --> 00:14:19,700 It went around on a ton of enneagram blogs and accounts, but it was really believed that 225 00:14:19,700 --> 00:14:24,740 and I got to chime this into best believe that people have done crossovers between enneagram 226 00:14:24,740 --> 00:14:25,740 and astrology. 227 00:14:25,740 --> 00:14:26,740 That's a side boat. 228 00:14:26,740 --> 00:14:30,940 Well, we won't go there, but I love how it all like pieces together. 229 00:14:30,940 --> 00:14:36,900 But however your original soul blueprint was, they usually say that you probably started 230 00:14:36,900 --> 00:14:41,840 off in your younger childhood years as your number that you go to in growth. 231 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:46,860 So when you check your enneagram number, the arrow that leads to another number and it 232 00:14:46,860 --> 00:14:50,920 says in growth was probably more what you embodied as a child. 233 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:56,020 So for you cat, that means you would have been a little bit more like a four as a kid, 234 00:14:56,020 --> 00:15:01,860 which type fours are known as being more independent on their own. 235 00:15:01,860 --> 00:15:06,860 They can be a little bit moody and temperamental, but they like to kind of find a sense of creativity 236 00:15:06,860 --> 00:15:11,420 and they really feel a strong sense of individuality. 237 00:15:11,420 --> 00:15:16,580 But somewhere along the way, maybe that side of you just was not getting rewarded enough 238 00:15:16,580 --> 00:15:19,340 and you got a lot more rewarded for helping people. 239 00:15:19,340 --> 00:15:24,200 So you kind of settled more into the two and yeah, maybe you got complimented a lot for 240 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:27,500 what you did around the house or thank you for helping me with that. 241 00:15:27,500 --> 00:15:31,180 Like then that to kind of set in a little bit stronger. 242 00:15:31,180 --> 00:15:35,520 But for you, what you're trying to work back to is embodying a little bit more of the four. 243 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:40,460 So if we think of this in like inner child healing, you're kind of trying to go back 244 00:15:40,460 --> 00:15:45,120 to a place where although you still are going to always love to help people and love to 245 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:50,620 feel needed, you want to embody a little bit of that sense of individuality and find a 246 00:15:50,620 --> 00:15:55,740 link and passion for your creativity and to let yourself spend that alone time to process 247 00:15:55,740 --> 00:15:57,620 emotions and stuff more. 248 00:15:57,620 --> 00:16:02,780 Because for you, that chronic need to help people can start to interfere and take away 249 00:16:02,780 --> 00:16:07,580 from that sense of self that you deeply want to stay plugged in and tuned to. 250 00:16:07,580 --> 00:16:12,420 And then when you could all see me because I'm just like nodding my head like nonstop, 251 00:16:12,420 --> 00:16:14,420 like yup, uh huh. 252 00:16:14,420 --> 00:16:20,380 Without even knowing me as a child, you are speaking it into like that's exactly how I 253 00:16:20,380 --> 00:16:21,380 was. 254 00:16:21,380 --> 00:16:25,940 I was a super creative kid and very independent first born. 255 00:16:25,940 --> 00:16:30,420 And yeah, I remember thinking to myself like I'm going to show these people I'm going to 256 00:16:30,420 --> 00:16:36,100 be famous one day and they're all going to regret not like treating me well. 257 00:16:36,100 --> 00:16:40,900 And yeah, had those thoughts. 258 00:16:40,900 --> 00:16:41,900 It's amazing. 259 00:16:41,900 --> 00:16:42,900 So great. 260 00:16:42,900 --> 00:16:50,260 And yeah, the really cool part is you, uh, when you are angry, you become an eight and 261 00:16:50,260 --> 00:16:52,420 I am married to a type two. 262 00:16:52,420 --> 00:16:55,180 So I know the type two so well. 263 00:16:55,180 --> 00:16:58,980 And when they go into their challenger mode, when they are stressed out, they all of a 264 00:16:58,980 --> 00:17:03,620 sudden like get so like they will not hear anyone else's opinion. 265 00:17:03,620 --> 00:17:07,300 They can get very charged and just like, I'm going for this. 266 00:17:07,300 --> 00:17:10,100 There's no ifs, ands or buts, no compromise. 267 00:17:10,100 --> 00:17:12,700 The eights get real strong and challenging. 268 00:17:12,700 --> 00:17:15,260 Do you relate with that a little Kat? 269 00:17:15,260 --> 00:17:17,260 Oh yeah. 270 00:17:17,260 --> 00:17:21,940 It's like when, when I'm triggered in that way, it's like, oh, I'm fast. 271 00:17:21,940 --> 00:17:25,460 I'm quick and like, I know what I want and know what I need. 272 00:17:25,460 --> 00:17:27,580 No standing in my way. 273 00:17:27,580 --> 00:17:31,700 It's so funny and my husband is very much the same way. 274 00:17:31,700 --> 00:17:36,740 He, when he gets into eight mode, I just go quiet because I'm like, he needs to just get 275 00:17:36,740 --> 00:17:40,220 this out because I know he helps a lot. 276 00:17:40,220 --> 00:17:45,780 And this is his like periodic explosion of just like, I need to get it out. 277 00:17:45,780 --> 00:17:47,100 And it comes so rarely. 278 00:17:47,100 --> 00:17:51,360 But I think type twos are one of the funniest because when they go into stress, it's so 279 00:17:51,360 --> 00:17:54,980 different than their core number that you're like, oh, hello eight. 280 00:17:54,980 --> 00:17:56,860 The eight has arrived. 281 00:17:56,860 --> 00:17:59,460 Everyone off guard, like, whoa, who's this? 282 00:17:59,460 --> 00:18:00,460 Yeah. 283 00:18:00,460 --> 00:18:04,580 We listen up when you guys shift, like I listen, I deeply listen. 284 00:18:04,580 --> 00:18:09,220 So I'll explain my own number two, just to keep kind of giving a reference tool of how 285 00:18:09,220 --> 00:18:10,340 to look. 286 00:18:10,340 --> 00:18:15,860 But I am a type six, the loyalist and I have a wing seven. 287 00:18:15,860 --> 00:18:22,300 And so I have a little bit of that enthusiast adventurous type seven, which is like such 288 00:18:22,300 --> 00:18:28,140 a funny pair because I have this like kind of fear based thinking. 289 00:18:28,140 --> 00:18:32,660 Like I'm always when I, when I enter a space, I'm looking at what could go wrong. 290 00:18:32,660 --> 00:18:35,180 I'm very observant of my environment. 291 00:18:35,180 --> 00:18:37,900 I'm constantly over analyzing stuff. 292 00:18:37,900 --> 00:18:41,100 I am always in my head playing out scenarios. 293 00:18:41,100 --> 00:18:46,380 And then I have that little seven wing, which will like make me do something spontaneous, 294 00:18:46,380 --> 00:18:48,700 like living out of my car for a year. 295 00:18:48,700 --> 00:18:50,300 Like that was my seven wing. 296 00:18:50,300 --> 00:18:52,400 My six would have never done that. 297 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:54,420 My six would have been like, this is stupid. 298 00:18:54,420 --> 00:18:56,740 This will put me behind for X amount of years. 299 00:18:56,740 --> 00:19:01,500 Like that's where I really get into kind of a panic mode of the future. 300 00:19:01,500 --> 00:19:04,500 That's when my six is like really present. 301 00:19:04,500 --> 00:19:09,040 That seven wing really helps me have like this kind of like fun looser side. 302 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:11,780 So I'm thankful for my type seven. 303 00:19:11,780 --> 00:19:15,720 But my number, when I am doing better, I become a nine. 304 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:17,980 So nines are the peacekeepers. 305 00:19:17,980 --> 00:19:23,540 So as a little Jen, I really was very good at keeping to myself. 306 00:19:23,540 --> 00:19:25,540 I definitely still had a lot. 307 00:19:25,540 --> 00:19:28,940 I think the six got kicked in pretty early for me. 308 00:19:28,940 --> 00:19:34,740 I started off relatively calm, but my family, somewhere along the way, I realized that I 309 00:19:34,740 --> 00:19:40,220 couldn't really stay in my own peace bubble because I needed to stay on top of things 310 00:19:40,220 --> 00:19:43,700 and I was taught to fear every single thing around me. 311 00:19:43,700 --> 00:19:44,900 Like be careful for that. 312 00:19:44,900 --> 00:19:45,900 Watch out for that. 313 00:19:45,900 --> 00:19:46,900 This is after you. 314 00:19:46,900 --> 00:19:47,900 This, this, this. 315 00:19:47,900 --> 00:19:52,300 I had so many fear things pushed on me as a kid that I became my hyper vigilant little 316 00:19:52,300 --> 00:19:53,900 sick self. 317 00:19:53,900 --> 00:19:59,200 And now with through yoga and meditation, I'm trying so hard to get back to honor my 318 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:05,180 little peacekeeper self that just wants to sit and calm and doesn't need to think everything 319 00:20:05,180 --> 00:20:07,980 through that can live more in the present. 320 00:20:07,980 --> 00:20:10,740 And I work on embodying that all the time. 321 00:20:10,740 --> 00:20:14,000 And then my number in stress is a type three. 322 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:16,260 And so that's the achiever. 323 00:20:16,260 --> 00:20:19,180 So cat, it's funny you have that little wing three. 324 00:20:19,180 --> 00:20:23,500 When I get really stressed out, I used to do so. 325 00:20:23,500 --> 00:20:26,860 I used to be so bad about this, but I've really seen it shift. 326 00:20:26,860 --> 00:20:31,060 I don't think I go to my stress number anywhere near as much as I used to. 327 00:20:31,060 --> 00:20:34,820 I think I'm a lot better at reading my own cues. 328 00:20:34,820 --> 00:20:42,620 But when I become a three, I start just like manically cleaning, manically trying to organize 329 00:20:42,620 --> 00:20:43,620 my life. 330 00:20:43,620 --> 00:20:46,940 Like it doesn't come from any efficiency. 331 00:20:46,940 --> 00:20:49,300 It's coming from like a place that makes no sense. 332 00:20:49,300 --> 00:20:53,260 Like I'll pull out like 10 of my planners, have them laying around me. 333 00:20:53,260 --> 00:20:57,380 And I just, I'm just trying to find some dang sense of control. 334 00:20:57,380 --> 00:21:00,660 And that is what happens when I'm like at my breaking point. 335 00:21:00,660 --> 00:21:07,040 And so I've really tried instead of doing that to let myself rest, let myself like have 336 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:08,880 a little more sense of calm. 337 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:14,740 So it was actually really beautiful that I found the yoga path, especially for my number 338 00:21:14,740 --> 00:21:19,260 because I deeply needed something to bring me a deeper sense of peace. 339 00:21:19,260 --> 00:21:21,300 Oh, I hear that. 340 00:21:21,300 --> 00:21:27,340 It's like that nervous energy, the nervous system's just like move, do, and then your 341 00:21:27,340 --> 00:21:30,140 inner self, you're just like, no, be, peace. 342 00:21:30,140 --> 00:21:31,140 I know. 343 00:21:31,140 --> 00:21:32,540 And you have that wing three. 344 00:21:32,540 --> 00:21:36,300 And I know that we go into a good productive mode together as well. 345 00:21:36,300 --> 00:21:42,500 And yeah, we can probably relate with our little, our little three side, but let me 346 00:21:42,500 --> 00:21:45,020 go through each number just in case. 347 00:21:45,020 --> 00:21:48,780 This is definitely something that you can look into and reference, but just so you have 348 00:21:48,780 --> 00:21:52,840 it in this podcast episode, I'm going to go through each number and what number it goes 349 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:56,300 to in stress and what number it goes to in growth. 350 00:21:56,300 --> 00:22:01,280 So type ones in stress will become more like a four in growth. 351 00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:03,340 They will become more like a seven. 352 00:22:03,340 --> 00:22:08,140 So picture that perfectionist feels like there's one way to do things. 353 00:22:08,140 --> 00:22:13,420 They get to become more fun, loving and growth and learn to let things go, let life be more 354 00:22:13,420 --> 00:22:16,460 adventurous, drop a lot of it. 355 00:22:16,460 --> 00:22:23,340 And that's probably where they started off as a kid in that fun, loving, goofy, spontaneous 356 00:22:23,340 --> 00:22:24,340 side. 357 00:22:24,340 --> 00:22:28,020 And then somewhere along the way, they got a lot more rewarded for being productive, 358 00:22:28,020 --> 00:22:33,700 doing things right, achieving in some way type ones and threes are both like very goal 359 00:22:33,700 --> 00:22:34,700 oriented. 360 00:22:34,700 --> 00:22:40,780 But yeah, type ones got rewarded for doing a good job and seen for that in stress. 361 00:22:40,780 --> 00:22:42,340 Ones will become more like a four. 362 00:22:42,340 --> 00:22:47,300 So they kind of withdraw, they pull back, they get into that moody emotional state and 363 00:22:47,300 --> 00:22:51,300 yeah, they kind of are out for themselves that are kind of embodying more of the darker 364 00:22:51,300 --> 00:22:56,800 side of the four, which is withholding a lot, really letting a lot of emotions out on people 365 00:22:56,800 --> 00:22:58,820 in the wrong way. 366 00:22:58,820 --> 00:23:05,000 Type twos we just did for cat stress, they go to an eight growth, they go to a four. 367 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:10,600 So we'll move on to type threes and three, six and nine are all in a triangle with each 368 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:11,600 other. 369 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:17,980 So they're the only three numbers that will go to the same two numbers, just kind of in 370 00:23:17,980 --> 00:23:19,940 vice versa of each other. 371 00:23:19,940 --> 00:23:23,700 But three, six and nine, I always say when people are in my triangle, like I can feel 372 00:23:23,700 --> 00:23:29,060 that kind of exchange of energy because we bounce to opposite numbers, but all within 373 00:23:29,060 --> 00:23:30,260 the same triangle. 374 00:23:30,260 --> 00:23:34,620 So three, six and nine, little hype for our triangle here. 375 00:23:34,620 --> 00:23:39,220 Type threes in growth become more like a healthy six like me. 376 00:23:39,220 --> 00:23:46,100 So type threes instead of manically achieving, they start thinking of future scenarios and 377 00:23:46,100 --> 00:23:50,660 maybe play in a little bit of the worst case scenario thinking so that they protect their 378 00:23:50,660 --> 00:23:55,220 energy a little more and drive it towards the right things, not necessarily go after 379 00:23:55,220 --> 00:23:56,980 every single thing. 380 00:23:56,980 --> 00:24:00,820 And maybe as a six, they had a little bit more of that consciousness and were able to 381 00:24:00,820 --> 00:24:05,860 kind of think things through in a way that was productive, not always anxiety provoking, 382 00:24:05,860 --> 00:24:10,560 but able to deeply think before going right into action mode. 383 00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:16,660 And then in stress, they become the nines, threes take a whole heck of a lot to go into 384 00:24:16,660 --> 00:24:22,460 their stress number, but when they do, they crash and become peacekeepers. 385 00:24:22,460 --> 00:24:26,940 But nines, that nine in stress threes just get shut down. 386 00:24:26,940 --> 00:24:28,940 All of a sudden they are like sick. 387 00:24:28,940 --> 00:24:30,340 They want to lay in bed. 388 00:24:30,340 --> 00:24:32,220 They can't do anything. 389 00:24:32,220 --> 00:24:37,580 They become completely unproductive and that takes a lot for a three to crack. 390 00:24:37,580 --> 00:24:41,660 But when they crack, they really crack. 391 00:24:41,660 --> 00:24:47,980 In type fours, in growth, they become a one and in stress, they become more like a two. 392 00:24:47,980 --> 00:24:53,540 So when a type four who's that individualist creativity gets into chronically helping people 393 00:24:53,540 --> 00:24:59,940 too much, they're forgetting to check in with their own need and their own desires and what 394 00:24:59,940 --> 00:25:01,580 they are needing out of things. 395 00:25:01,580 --> 00:25:03,640 In growth, they become more like a one. 396 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:05,300 My sister is a four. 397 00:25:05,300 --> 00:25:08,780 She's just become a bad-ass advocate for large things. 398 00:25:08,780 --> 00:25:12,820 They're really good at seeing the big picture, helping. 399 00:25:12,820 --> 00:25:16,980 And yeah, they can get a little bit of that perfectionist to their creativity, but it 400 00:25:16,980 --> 00:25:20,580 can be really beautiful what they can come up with when they're working more with their 401 00:25:20,580 --> 00:25:22,180 growth number. 402 00:25:22,180 --> 00:25:25,340 Type fives and growth become more like an eight. 403 00:25:25,340 --> 00:25:30,460 So instead of withdrawing all the time, they're able to speak their mind, share their desires, 404 00:25:30,460 --> 00:25:34,660 maybe let some of their opinions out instead of withholding all of it. 405 00:25:34,660 --> 00:25:38,780 They have that nice bite, but in a good, healthy debater way. 406 00:25:38,780 --> 00:25:42,900 And they take all that knowledge that they constantly want to learn and they actually 407 00:25:42,900 --> 00:25:48,860 share it out to where they can have the world comment on it and exchange some of their information 408 00:25:48,860 --> 00:25:51,900 that they're always gathering as a type five. 409 00:25:51,900 --> 00:25:53,900 And in stress, they become more like a seven. 410 00:25:53,900 --> 00:25:55,900 So they become very avoidant. 411 00:25:55,900 --> 00:26:03,060 They often, my dad is a five and he definitely loves to go out on a lot of drives and go 412 00:26:03,060 --> 00:26:04,640 travel when he is stressed out. 413 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:06,180 He likes to get away. 414 00:26:06,180 --> 00:26:11,780 They kind of do it in a manically impulsive way, not always in a like planned out way. 415 00:26:11,780 --> 00:26:14,380 They can have a really strong avoidant behavior. 416 00:26:14,380 --> 00:26:18,660 I already went over type six, but stress, they become a three growth. 417 00:26:18,660 --> 00:26:24,540 They become a nine and then type sevens in stress become a one in growth. 418 00:26:24,540 --> 00:26:26,020 They become the fives. 419 00:26:26,020 --> 00:26:33,220 So they take that spontaneous manic, fun, happy energy and in growth, they get really curious. 420 00:26:33,220 --> 00:26:37,580 I think sevens are so cute when they're going into their growth number because they become 421 00:26:37,580 --> 00:26:41,620 like little scientists and start deeply studying into things. 422 00:26:41,620 --> 00:26:45,340 And they're such good study years when they slow down and they pick something to focus 423 00:26:45,340 --> 00:26:46,340 on. 424 00:26:46,340 --> 00:26:51,460 They really can take a lot of that information in and make it really productive versus manically 425 00:26:51,460 --> 00:26:53,220 jumping around and avoiding pain. 426 00:26:53,220 --> 00:26:56,460 They can hone in on something and really deeply learn it. 427 00:26:56,460 --> 00:26:59,820 And they're usually kind of like real cute as kids too. 428 00:26:59,820 --> 00:27:04,540 And that like starting off in your growth number, type fives are usually really into 429 00:27:04,540 --> 00:27:06,860 like really niche subjects. 430 00:27:06,860 --> 00:27:11,780 And then somewhere along the way they start kind of usually sevens have had actually the 431 00:27:11,780 --> 00:27:15,580 most traumatic past of any of the other enneagram types. 432 00:27:15,580 --> 00:27:17,620 That is usually why they're so pain avoidant. 433 00:27:17,620 --> 00:27:22,320 So a lot of type sevens, if you read like the celebrity list, a lot of them have had 434 00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:27,220 a lot of mental health struggles and a lot of traumas, which is why they are so pain 435 00:27:27,220 --> 00:27:28,220 avoidant. 436 00:27:28,220 --> 00:27:32,380 Then to go into type eight, we're almost there guys. 437 00:27:32,380 --> 00:27:36,780 Growth they become a two and then stress they become a five. 438 00:27:36,780 --> 00:27:43,220 So type eights as kids often are usually the helpers going around and helping everyone, 439 00:27:43,220 --> 00:27:47,440 but somewhere along the way they really feel like they need to stand up and take charge. 440 00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:51,940 They maybe got taken advantage of too much for helping. 441 00:27:51,940 --> 00:27:56,380 And yeah, go into a mode where they're able to challenge the people around them, debate. 442 00:27:56,380 --> 00:27:59,540 They're looking to get more into that sweet side. 443 00:27:59,540 --> 00:28:05,980 So if you know a type eight in your life, they're usually very kind of domineering, 444 00:28:05,980 --> 00:28:11,780 but it's so cute because underneath it all, they really in growth become more like that 445 00:28:11,780 --> 00:28:12,780 helper. 446 00:28:12,780 --> 00:28:15,860 So they can have this really hard shell because they're scared to be vulnerable. 447 00:28:15,860 --> 00:28:21,420 But as you give them something to help and you trust them, they usually can soften so 448 00:28:21,420 --> 00:28:23,380 much more than you think they can. 449 00:28:23,380 --> 00:28:28,060 So I'm never intimidated by a big dominant energy because I assume they're a type eight 450 00:28:28,060 --> 00:28:29,980 and that I can find help them find their two. 451 00:28:29,980 --> 00:28:35,180 If I just give them a little direction, I have definitely a lot of type eights in my 452 00:28:35,180 --> 00:28:36,180 life. 453 00:28:36,180 --> 00:28:40,580 And so I like the little bite at first and then there's a nice gooey center. 454 00:28:40,580 --> 00:28:46,380 And then finally our type nines when they are stressed out, my, I have multiple best 455 00:28:46,380 --> 00:28:51,380 friends who are type nines when they are stressed out, they become a six like me, except in 456 00:28:51,380 --> 00:28:52,620 all the wrong ways. 457 00:28:52,620 --> 00:28:55,620 Like that fear based thinking is not productive. 458 00:28:55,620 --> 00:29:01,900 They will tell you every possible thing going wrong in the world and they hardly can function 459 00:29:01,900 --> 00:29:03,780 because of how much they are taking in. 460 00:29:03,780 --> 00:29:08,660 So when they are stressed, they're like telling you every single thing bad and they just can't 461 00:29:08,660 --> 00:29:09,660 get out of it. 462 00:29:09,660 --> 00:29:14,060 So you have to really pull those nines out when they go into their stress mode because 463 00:29:14,060 --> 00:29:17,980 the worst case scenario thinking, which is already kind of a hard number. 464 00:29:17,980 --> 00:29:23,140 It's hard to be a type six, but to go there and stress is taking that shadow side of the 465 00:29:23,140 --> 00:29:24,540 six and embodying it. 466 00:29:24,540 --> 00:29:28,220 And I have a lot of friends that I'm like, Oh, we're in a dark place. 467 00:29:28,220 --> 00:29:30,740 They're telling there they're going deep. 468 00:29:30,740 --> 00:29:32,740 So I have to drag them out. 469 00:29:32,740 --> 00:29:34,540 And then in growth, they become a three. 470 00:29:34,540 --> 00:29:41,580 So that nine that sometimes gets the rap for like always, uh, yeah, moving slower, kind 471 00:29:41,580 --> 00:29:43,820 of resting more. 472 00:29:43,820 --> 00:29:48,880 They can actually become very productive when they are honoring their own needs. 473 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:53,660 They're working on making sure they're going towards the things that they want to go to. 474 00:29:53,660 --> 00:29:57,940 And they, yeah, they let go of a little bit of that need to always like stay show shelled 475 00:29:57,940 --> 00:30:02,220 in and learn to just make their life with the proper people around them that are going 476 00:30:02,220 --> 00:30:05,500 to make them feel that sense of safety, that sense of comfort. 477 00:30:05,500 --> 00:30:10,500 So they can embody the type three a little bit more and move towards their goals. 478 00:30:10,500 --> 00:30:11,500 So there it is. 479 00:30:11,500 --> 00:30:12,500 Beautiful. 480 00:30:12,500 --> 00:30:13,500 Oh my gosh. 481 00:30:13,500 --> 00:30:16,220 So much amazing information. 482 00:30:16,220 --> 00:30:21,460 Like the fact that you know all of this and can just recite it like that is so impressive 483 00:30:21,460 --> 00:30:22,460 to me. 484 00:30:22,460 --> 00:30:28,220 And I know that our listeners are going to have a lot to, to dig into, to taste out, 485 00:30:28,220 --> 00:30:32,180 to digest and to share based on all of this. 486 00:30:32,180 --> 00:30:33,180 Yes. 487 00:30:33,180 --> 00:30:34,740 It's so much fun. 488 00:30:34,740 --> 00:30:37,460 It is such a good deep dive. 489 00:30:37,460 --> 00:30:42,100 And it's so interesting because once you know your base number, you can go in the Enneagram 490 00:30:42,100 --> 00:30:46,140 Institute and kind of do, I recommend reading all of the numbers. 491 00:30:46,140 --> 00:30:51,100 I think it's just super interesting, but you can look at what your number looks like when 492 00:30:51,100 --> 00:30:55,540 it's doing better, what your number is going to kind of mirror as it's looking worse. 493 00:30:55,540 --> 00:30:59,620 And you're kind of in a, I'm not taking care of myself place. 494 00:30:59,620 --> 00:31:04,020 And the other fun part is you can play with your compatibility with other numbers. 495 00:31:04,020 --> 00:31:08,100 So I have done that in my life so many times, like type six with the type two, that's me 496 00:31:08,100 --> 00:31:09,380 and Danny. 497 00:31:09,380 --> 00:31:15,780 Such a funny read and when I search the compatibility on the Enneagram Institute between our types, 498 00:31:15,780 --> 00:31:19,620 it basically gave me a list of every single thing that me and Danny fight over, which 499 00:31:19,620 --> 00:31:21,620 is just so funny. 500 00:31:21,620 --> 00:31:25,860 Like it's the, it was the exact power dynamic that we struggle with. 501 00:31:25,860 --> 00:31:28,060 And so that deeply helped with communication. 502 00:31:28,060 --> 00:31:33,340 And I also ran my number with my mom's number, my number with my sister's number, my dad's 503 00:31:33,340 --> 00:31:34,340 number. 504 00:31:34,340 --> 00:31:38,440 And yeah, it was childhood healing in a way that I would have never thought. 505 00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:42,680 And it really helped me let go of a lot of shit from my past. 506 00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:50,340 And I do think that with all of these personality tests, it's really good to get a view of yourself. 507 00:31:50,340 --> 00:31:55,060 I think it's also important that we don't over identify so much with our number that 508 00:31:55,060 --> 00:31:59,560 we don't continuously do the work to kind of unlearn ourselves. 509 00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:03,980 Because as we share on this podcast all the time, the reason I think Enneagram can kind 510 00:32:03,980 --> 00:32:10,340 of be spiritual is you're working on unlearning, you're learning to help unlearn and let go 511 00:32:10,340 --> 00:32:13,980 of some of those things you may be picked up along the way. 512 00:32:13,980 --> 00:32:19,100 Because when you have a better, better tool system in your mind to catch your actions 513 00:32:19,100 --> 00:32:23,580 and why you're doing it, then you usually can move through life with a lot more mindfulness. 514 00:32:23,580 --> 00:32:29,800 So I think the personality tests are way less on over helping you over identify and make 515 00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:35,860 excuses for why you do what you do and finding a sweet balance to maybe extending grace on 516 00:32:35,860 --> 00:32:41,080 yourself because you know some of the qualities of your number, but also then working on trying 517 00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:43,580 to release and let that go. 518 00:32:43,580 --> 00:32:44,580 Yeah. 519 00:32:44,580 --> 00:32:52,820 And one other great idea of how you can utilize this tool to help continue to understand yourself 520 00:32:52,820 --> 00:32:58,820 and others better in group settings is going to your employer with something like this. 521 00:32:58,820 --> 00:33:04,820 If you work for a cool place that's open to personal development, professional growth, 522 00:33:04,820 --> 00:33:08,460 looking for team building opportunities, my old workplace used to do this. 523 00:33:08,460 --> 00:33:09,900 So that's why I came to mind. 524 00:33:09,900 --> 00:33:10,940 I love it. 525 00:33:10,940 --> 00:33:15,580 Having some sort of workshop where everybody takes their Enneagram test and then shares 526 00:33:15,580 --> 00:33:22,180 out and explains how they see this present in themselves in the workplace. 527 00:33:22,180 --> 00:33:26,780 And by understanding that, you can then grow together. 528 00:33:26,780 --> 00:33:32,100 And by understanding what someone else is really skilled at, you can delegate different 529 00:33:32,100 --> 00:33:33,320 tasks that way. 530 00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:41,740 So just another idea in case you are responsible or if your management has things like this 531 00:33:41,740 --> 00:33:43,340 that they're always looking for. 532 00:33:43,340 --> 00:33:44,340 I love that. 533 00:33:44,340 --> 00:33:46,260 That would be absolutely amazing. 534 00:33:46,260 --> 00:33:48,780 I pretty much make every coworker take it anyway. 535 00:33:48,780 --> 00:33:51,580 I love that. 536 00:33:51,580 --> 00:33:56,260 The other like such, oh my gosh, I think it is so funny. 537 00:33:56,260 --> 00:34:02,220 I don't go on Facebook hardly at all anymore, but I do deeply miss this about Facebook. 538 00:34:02,220 --> 00:34:04,660 I followed probably. 539 00:34:04,660 --> 00:34:07,800 So I'll tell you which ones, honestly, I follow the type one page. 540 00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:09,420 I follow the type six page. 541 00:34:09,420 --> 00:34:13,100 I follow the type two page and the type nine page. 542 00:34:13,100 --> 00:34:15,380 And they have like giant groups. 543 00:34:15,380 --> 00:34:19,660 And so you can follow your Enneagram group on Facebook. 544 00:34:19,660 --> 00:34:27,040 And it's like the type one group and what they talk about is so high level and so nerdy. 545 00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:30,700 And then the type two group is always like telling each other like, love you guys. 546 00:34:30,700 --> 00:34:31,700 They're just so lovey. 547 00:34:31,700 --> 00:34:32,700 Wait, that's hilarious. 548 00:34:32,700 --> 00:34:36,300 And Danny always shows me memes from the type two group. 549 00:34:36,300 --> 00:34:38,580 And it's like memes that I would not think are funny. 550 00:34:38,580 --> 00:34:41,780 And it's just like some joke about over people pleasing. 551 00:34:41,780 --> 00:34:43,980 And Danny just like Danny responds. 552 00:34:43,980 --> 00:34:47,580 You'll probably see Danny on there. 553 00:34:47,580 --> 00:34:48,940 He loves it. 554 00:34:48,940 --> 00:34:52,580 And it's just all these little jokes about overextending yourself. 555 00:34:52,580 --> 00:34:54,980 And then the type nine group is the funniest of them all. 556 00:34:54,980 --> 00:34:59,860 I'm not kidding, because they all probably spend the most time on the computer because 557 00:34:59,860 --> 00:35:00,860 they're way more. 558 00:35:00,860 --> 00:35:02,740 Usually nines are like resting. 559 00:35:02,740 --> 00:35:03,740 They like love to rest. 560 00:35:03,740 --> 00:35:07,460 So all of their memes are so good about anyone. 561 00:35:07,460 --> 00:35:11,420 Like I saw one time this girl commented, she's like, anyone else been in bed a couple of 562 00:35:11,420 --> 00:35:12,420 days? 563 00:35:12,420 --> 00:35:15,580 And there was like 300 comments like, yeah, like what you guys do? 564 00:35:15,580 --> 00:35:18,140 This group is cracking me up. 565 00:35:18,140 --> 00:35:20,820 Like they're just out resting in the world. 566 00:35:20,820 --> 00:35:25,300 And my one of my closest friends who learned she was a nine, it felt so good for her to 567 00:35:25,300 --> 00:35:29,380 learn that there's like a whole group of people that need double the recharge time. 568 00:35:29,380 --> 00:35:31,380 She loved that for herself. 569 00:35:31,380 --> 00:35:34,400 And finding that group to connect with was huge for her. 570 00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:37,460 My type six group is very, very funny. 571 00:35:37,460 --> 00:35:40,220 And we also are like always worried about something. 572 00:35:40,220 --> 00:35:46,260 There's like an equal balance of wit and anxiety and the type six group, like either a problem 573 00:35:46,260 --> 00:35:49,380 or we're like, yeah, trying to make light of it. 574 00:35:49,380 --> 00:35:52,740 Also sixes are always trying to figure things out. 575 00:35:52,740 --> 00:35:58,380 Sixes most commonly mistype as helpers because we do want to figure out how to help people, 576 00:35:58,380 --> 00:36:03,260 but it's kind of more for the motive of moving through life with less anxiety and kind of 577 00:36:03,260 --> 00:36:06,080 knowing the inner workings of everyone. 578 00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:10,380 So there's a lot of deep dives on the six page of like, what would you guys do about 579 00:36:10,380 --> 00:36:11,380 this? 580 00:36:11,380 --> 00:36:12,860 What would you do about this? 581 00:36:12,860 --> 00:36:14,580 And I'm like, I love it. 582 00:36:14,580 --> 00:36:16,640 The anxiety is loud and clear. 583 00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:22,460 So I highly recommend tapping into your, your Enneagram group. 584 00:36:22,460 --> 00:36:24,980 And then I love the Enneagram page. 585 00:36:24,980 --> 00:36:29,020 It's spelled K-A-M dot Enneagram. 586 00:36:29,020 --> 00:36:32,300 She does tons of amazing series. 587 00:36:32,300 --> 00:36:37,820 We can share a few on our Insta Instagram page when this episode comes out so that you 588 00:36:37,820 --> 00:36:44,100 guys can see a few of the studies she has done and like the group series, because I 589 00:36:44,100 --> 00:36:48,900 really think she's done an amazing job of deep, deeply breaking down the temperaments 590 00:36:48,900 --> 00:36:50,980 behind a lot of them. 591 00:36:50,980 --> 00:36:53,620 And there's a lot of side dissection. 592 00:36:53,620 --> 00:36:59,540 I won't get too into this in this episode, but a lot of the numbers kind of can link 593 00:36:59,540 --> 00:37:04,860 in how they process more with their heart, process more with their gut, process more 594 00:37:04,860 --> 00:37:06,160 with their head. 595 00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:08,940 And there's just kind of different forms of thinking. 596 00:37:08,940 --> 00:37:13,300 And so this comes into kind of the thinker versus feeler, which maybe I've talked about 597 00:37:13,300 --> 00:37:19,300 in a couple of episodes, but some people just generally feel before they think or think 598 00:37:19,300 --> 00:37:20,780 before they feel. 599 00:37:20,780 --> 00:37:25,380 And so learning just how other numbers respond to things going around them and learning that 600 00:37:25,380 --> 00:37:30,540 general temperament and what numbers kind of match that is just all a very fun deep 601 00:37:30,540 --> 00:37:35,580 dive if you want the resource to better understand the people around you and maybe why they do 602 00:37:35,580 --> 00:37:42,220 what they do so you can let go of some of the attachment to making everything so dang 603 00:37:42,220 --> 00:37:45,020 personal. 604 00:37:45,020 --> 00:37:47,940 Having some compassion, compassion, compassion. 605 00:37:47,940 --> 00:37:50,580 That's what it's all about. 606 00:37:50,580 --> 00:37:56,300 Well, thank you so much, Jen, for sharing your knowledge on all of this today. 607 00:37:56,300 --> 00:37:58,660 And we can't wait to hear from you all. 608 00:37:58,660 --> 00:38:03,540 We want to learn what your type is, what your wings are, and what you resonated most with 609 00:38:03,540 --> 00:38:05,020 from this episode. 610 00:38:05,020 --> 00:38:06,020 Yes. 611 00:38:06,020 --> 00:38:10,620 And don't forget to go on, review our podcast. 612 00:38:10,620 --> 00:38:15,500 The reviews really help us get our podcast out to more people. 613 00:38:15,500 --> 00:38:17,500 And we will see you next week. 614 00:38:17,500 --> 00:38:18,500 See you everyone. 615 00:38:18,500 --> 00:38:41,500 Thanks.