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Hello everybody and welcome to the Awaken Together podcast. I'm Jen and I'm Kat. And

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today I could not be more excited. I feel like this is very overdue for the level of

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passion I have for this subject and that is our astrology episode. Kat has heard me nerd

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out about this many a times and I'm sure if you follow along you've definitely seen my

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love for it shared on social media. And I am just very excited to get into what it means

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to me, what I think you can use astrology for practically, and we're also going to review

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kind of the shadow side of it and what to be kind of cautious with because it is a very,

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very vast world.

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It really is. And when many people think of astrology these days, I feel like just for

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the common public an image of a white woman with flowy white clothes, mala beads, and

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Apollo Santo in her hand comes to mind. But we want to smash that a little bit because

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this is not new age, even though it's become really more popular and common nowadays I

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think. It's something that's been around forever and actually can be traced back to

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the third millennium BC ancient societies have turned to celestial systems to help them

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bring more meaning to human life, to gain understanding of the seasons and consciousness.

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So it's really a study that goes deep and I'm so excited because Jen is really well

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versed in all of this. I'm like maybe some of you I'm still kind of dipping my toe in

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the water. I've known about sun signs like predominantly and I'd say in the past two

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years I've learned more about my moon sign and my rising sign and they've brought me

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a lot more understanding and just having a birth chart reading from Jen has illuminated

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this whole experience for me. So I'm really excited for everyone to learn more, including

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me today.

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Yeah. And I think to go over kind of that sun sign astrology concept too, I really believe

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that that's kind of the reason we have maybe, well, I guess some of us have dismissed it

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is the sun sign astrology has been taken, I believe like way too far and as funny as

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the memes can be. And yeah, there's so many TikToks about, yeah, signs together. It's

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all very honed in on just the sun sign alone. So sun sign is for everyone that has the same

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birthday as, you know, around the same birthday as you that birthday month. And I've always

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heard sun sign described as being in a blank canvas of your life. The sun sign would just

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be those large initial strokes on the canvas. It is one piece to a very detailed birth chart.

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So when we say birth chart, we're talking about that moment you took your first breath,

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wherever you were located, wherever it kind of like takes a screenshot of the sky. So

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a quick little screenshot and then everything keeps moving. And from that moment, I think

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the more you dig into it and the more you've deeply studied your birth chart, you start

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to really see that that could have been the sole energetic blueprint that you came here

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to kind of work through. I was the biggest skeptic of astrology ever. I, you know, for

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those who listen, you already know that I have my religious background, but I had always

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been told, yeah, stay away from astrology. It's very tied in with psychics and fortune

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telling. So I was like actually very scared of it. Even when I would like see horoscopes

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and stuff, I was like, oh no, like be careful. So I had such an aversion to it. Devil's work.

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So I had such an aversion to it. So I really came in to it very, very carefully even to

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start with. And then as I've also shared, I'm a very like logical person. I needed it

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to make so much sense to even kind of start believing in it. So one of my early like skeptic

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experiments, you know, I read my own birth chart, which I finally heard what a birth

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chart was versus like daily horoscopes, which I think daily horoscopes just all seemed absurd

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to me. I'm like, someone is typing that up. And I'm just like, that just seems very generalized

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for every single person in the month of June. We're all going to find the love of our life

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this year. Like it doesn't seem right. So I was like, this just seems so stupid. And

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then once I heard what a natal chart or birth chart was and I read mine, I found a lot more

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context behind what astrology could be, I think. And then from there, I really started

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deeply studying kind of the cultural background of it and where it started. And I think the

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big upswing in all of it, the reason it's become so popular is because we really have

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the technology now to be able to run patterns a lot more. I think we can look at not only

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where everything was in the sky through different historical events, but we also can study people

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that have passed away. We can look at their birth charts, what kind of happened in their

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life. And I think we've been able to run a lot of similarities. So I think our technology

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world has been able to amplify the accuracy of things as well because we've been able

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to run so much cross data. If that makes some sense.

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Yeah, totally. It's a great point. I think with time, we just gained so much more insight

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and we're able to go deeper into these topics.

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Yeah, yeah. And I think that's really the uptick in it. So yeah, so as I was saying,

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I was super skeptical and I read my birth chart and then I literally decided to, I had

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a bunch of, I worked at a nursing home and I had all these elderly patients and some

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love astrology actually and would be like, oh no, she's a Gemini, I have a crazy therapist.

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You know, I used to get that all the time from a few of them. And then I started talking

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about birth charts and they had never heard that concept. So I printed out some of these

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elderly people's birth charts and I was thinking in my head, like, if it's inaccurate, like

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their life would not match their chart, you know, because they're at the end of their

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life. Like I have a really good scale to be able to see. So I had literally printed like

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multiple faces birth charts. I was going over it with them and it was like so accurate to

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their life. And I was like, okay, that's weird. Maybe I should keep looking at it.

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It's incredible. And it's probably the least surprising thing you've ever said.

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I have like wheelchairs surrounding me with packets of birth charts. So funny. So classic

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Jen. So anyway, yes, I started getting so into the study of it pretty much at that point.

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And then I'm years in now. I love listening to different podcasts on the topic studying.

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There's also different branches of astrology too. And I try to, you know, be respectful

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of the there's kind of like different lineages to look into too. And I just think it's all

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super fun. Super fun. I so agree. I so agree. Go ahead.

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Here, I'll go. So we wanted to go into birth chart analysis with you. So if you have never

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looked at your birth chart, we are going to recommend a couple sites because we're just

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going to go into a cut and dry on a lot of concepts with you and then kind of, yeah,

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explain them a little further. So the couple sites I recommend, if you're using your phone,

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CoStar is an app you can download. You have to have your birth time right. That is like

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one of the biggest things in astrology because it's that sole blueprint. If you're guesstimating

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the time, some of the stuff in your chart can shift even with a small time difference.

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But CoStar has a really clean, easy read layout of your birth chart when you download it.

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And I also love CafeAstrology.com. That will give you also an easy layout that you can

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follow. Yeah. Yeah. So if you want to pause this podcast and pull up your birth chart,

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we're going to go through in just a moment how to really be able to interpret this for

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yourself. Yeah. And I would say, so if all of this is very new and you've never even

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heard of the other planets, like you're like, what is a Jupiter? What does that even mean?

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Like I don't even know what that means in context to my chart. As I said, it's that

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sole screenshot, but every single planet has a different energetic effect. Every single

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sign. So when you hear like the terms Aries, Gemini, Taurus, every single sign comes with

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its own energy as well. And then when you look up into the sky, we've divided it into

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kind of a 12 piece pie chart. And within that, you're seeing which planet lands in which

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segment. And that determines a lot of where you see the energies, not only of that planet,

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but also of that sign. And then what area of your life you're going to see that play

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out the most common. So that is what you are looking into when you look at the houses of

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astrology as well. And then within that, there's layers more deep. That's why I highly recommend

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going to a professional to get a reading because they can integrate all of these concepts together.

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I will definitely share my info. I love looking and helping people with their charts. But

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yeah, it gets so much more deep too, because you know, all the planets, the way they relate

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to each other and degrees can make a difference. Those are what we call aspects. And yeah,

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there's a lot of layers to it. But if you know, you don't have the time or resources

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to be able to do a professional reading, the online birth charts you can pull up can definitely

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be a good start just to at least get some fun context on some of the energies that are

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at play in your life.

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Yes. So what we're going to do now, I'm going to give you a high level overview of some

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of the qualities of these planets. And then we'll go deep dive into the zodiac signs,

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not too deep, just digestible enough so that when you hear your friend say, I'm a Taurus,

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and you're like, what the heck does that mean? At least like a couple qualities will come

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to mind for you. So starting with the sun sign, the one that we all probably know about

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ourselves, this is a sign that is all about your ego or your sense of self.

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Next up is the moon. And this rules your emotions and your moods. Next is your rising sign.

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And this is the mask that you wear, the mask that you show people. I've also heard that

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this is the one that kind of aligns with how you work in your career or work. Correct me

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if I'm wrong, Jen.

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Yeah, it really is the way you move through the world. So the rising sign is how you're

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going to show up in society and whatever area of your life that's the strongest. You usually

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meet people's rising signs a lot more than you meet their sun signs.

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Such good information. Thank you for that.

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Next up is Jupiter. And this rules prosperity. Next is Saturn. This is all about your limitations.

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So things that might hold you back. And then Mars is your confidence. This is your warrior.

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And your passion. Passion as well. That's a good...

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Passion. Yes. Awesome. And then Venus is all about love, just like the goddess Venus. It's

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about matchmaking, harmony, all of those heart-centered feelings. And Mercury, this is all about communication.

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This one's known as the messenger.

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And how we talk. So looking at where your Mercury is and what sign really shows how

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you probably communicate with others as well.

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Right. And that saying, or not that saying, but Mercury is in retrograde. I feel like

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people who aren't even into astrology understand what that means now.

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Yeah, we'll talk about that too. Mercury can be a biggie.

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Yeah. If you recognize your communications, just totally off or you're unable to verbalize

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what you really mean, take a look at the calendar. Maybe Mercury is in retrograde.

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And then next up is Pluto. Pluto rules power or transformation. Then Uranus is all about

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your individuality. And then finally Neptune, which rules idealism and compassion.

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Yeah. So I'll just kind of give a little bit of information. So if you have your birth

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chart in front of you, you're going to see all of those planets lined up in your chart.

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And yeah, it's really fun to look up each planet and then whatever sign it's in. So

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if your sun is an Aquarius researching what that looks like, if your Jupiter is an Aries

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researching what that looks like, if your Venus is in Gemini researching what that looks

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like. And you can kind of combine the qualities of the sign with the qualities of that planet.

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One of the more interesting things that made astrology even have another level of depth

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to me is we have our generational planet. So we say big three. If you've heard that term,

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what's your big three? That's talking sun, moon and rising sign. And those are because

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those are just really powerful in your chart. The moon is sometimes more prevalent in your

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childhood because we live out of our moods and emotions, which is what the moon represents.

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The rising sign comes kind of comes into play because that's how we start to move through

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the world. That's what we show people. And then the sun sign is usually they say that

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sometimes that can even show up a little bit later. It's kind of that backdrop still. So

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you'll definitely relate to it, but that's kind of our sense of ego. But there's a lot

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of prefect preference, preface. There's a lot of, there's a lot of importance behind our

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rising sign, though, because the rising sign also determines our chart ruler. So whatever

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sign it is in, it's a little high level, but I'm a Virgo rising and Virgo is ruled by Mercury.

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So looking at what sun or what planet rules the sign of your rising sign can also show

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another huge, um, emphasized thing in your chart. So Mercury is really powerful for my

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chart for that very reason. And Kat, I think yours, you're an Aries rising. So your Mars

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has a lot of emphasis in your chart as well. A little extra sprinkle because of that rising

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sign. But as I was saying, big three, then you have your big six that a lot of people

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talk about, which adds in your Mercury, your Venus and your Mars, because all of those,

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um, yeah, kind of are strong at play too. As we said, all these characters come together

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and matter. But then you have your generational planets, which is Pluto, Uranus and Neptune.

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And all three of those really clump us in in larger groups. So it is so fascinating

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because each one takes, you know, a lot longer to orbit. So it chunks us together. So if

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you look at the history of kind of generations, goals and what mattered to them, you can trace

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that back to a lot of astrology because all those people could have been ruled by the

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same sign and how they felt in their sense of who they were or what their goals were,

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what they were working on transforming, where they got their power from. Some of those qualities

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of Pluto, Uranus and Neptune play out in much larger chunks. So it also groups, yeah, a

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lot of your peers together, which is really cool to see why some things collectively matter

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to different age ranges. So yeah, that's the add a little fun.

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So fun. And so I will now go through a little breakdown of the zodiac signs. So listen carefully

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if you want to journal, make some notes. I'll try to go slow enough if you want to do that.

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But yeah, let's start with the first sign of the zodiac calendar and that's Aries.

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Aries is a fire sign. If you have a strong Aries placement, you might notice feeling

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eager, dynamic, quick and competitive. I definitely resonate with some of those.

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And Kat is an Aries rising.

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Kat is an Aries rising.

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Yep, I've definitely operated through life with that, some of these feelings. And then

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next up is Taurus, which is an Earth sign. I love Taurus's. They are known for being

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strong, dependable, sensual and creative. One of my...

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I'm married to a Taurus son.

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Yes, I love it. I have a really good friend who's a Taurus son and she is such an artist.

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Super creative. I was just at her house this weekend and I was totally in awe of this workshop

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area that she has. Like, oh my gosh, I didn't even know. It just blew my mind.

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I think Taurus's are also known for being kind of stubborn. Is that right?

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Oh yeah, they definitely have a more stubborn. And so yeah, that's a good thing to preface

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as we're working down the list. Your Earth signs are a lot more fixed in some of their

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mentalities. It's kind of a more calm vibe, but it's usually very sturdy. So not as quick

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as the upcoming one of Gemini, which I am the most Gemini person you can possibly know.

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And so yeah, we can continue on.

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Yeah, I love that idea too of imagining the elements embodied, like Earth is a mountain,

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like kind of stuck in the way, like sturdy, whereas fire is powerful and can burn you

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and air is super flowy.

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And can initiate really fast.

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Yes, Gemini, air, really flowy, versatile, can be gone with the wind in a second. Very

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expressive, curious, and kind. So you.

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My mom is also a Gemini. And yeah, I don't know, I get along really well with Gemini

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as that fellow air sign.

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I have a Gemini stelum, so it is so strong in my chart. Like it is a powerful, powerful

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I love that. Next up is Cancer. Cancer is a water sign. These people tend to be intuitive,

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sentimental, compassionate, and protective. In my life, it's funny because I'm an Aquarius,

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that's my son, but I like all a lot of the people who are closest to me in my life are

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cancers. And I just love that because whenever, whenever I meet someone new now, I'm like,

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what's your son sign? If I get a vibe from them that I really connect with on a soul

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level and when they say they're a cancer, because nine times out of 10 they are like,

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yeah, I wasn't surprised I was getting that from you. I just love my little cancers.

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It's so funny. Yeah, looking who we attract is a whole other thing.

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Next up is Leo. Leo is a fire sign. Leo, I always imagine the lion. These people tend

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to be dramatic, outgoing, self-assured, lots of confidence emanating from this sign.

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I'm a Leo moon leaf.

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Love it. I can see that.

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I'm a Leo moon, so I feel that very strong.

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Yes, your moods and your emotions, there they are. Next is Virgo, which is an earth sign.

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If you're a Virgo, you might be practical, loyal, gentle, and analytical. Some more of

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those earthy qualities. Next up is Libra. Libra is an air sign. I picture the scales

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when I think of Libra because they're very fair-minded, known for being social, diplomatic,

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and gracious. They will hear anyone out.

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And next is Scorpio, which I always thought was a fire sign, but it's water. And I think

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the reason I thought it was fire for so long is because this sign is super passionate.

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It can also be stubborn, but also resourceful and brave.

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Next up is Sagittarius, which is a fire sign. This sign is extroverted, optimistic, and

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known for being funny.

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Next is Capricorn, which is an earth sign. This is my moon sign.

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Cough, cough, cats, Stella.

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I got a lot of cap, which is funny because I don't identify with some of these at first,

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but when I think about it deeper, I'm like, oh, there it is. So Capricorn is serious,

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disciplined, and independent.

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And then next up is Aquarius, which is an air sign. It's also my sun sign, so it's

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interesting to see how my Aquarius and Capricorn interrelate and intermingle.

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But Aquarius is known for being deep, imaginative, also independent and original, kind of like

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the rule breakers.

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And then finally, the last sign of the zodiac is Pisces, which is a little fish, so you

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can imagine it's a water sign. Pisces are so sweet. They're very intuitive, affectionate,

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wise and artistic.

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Yeah. So that's all 12.

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Yes, a lot of info, but that is definitely just to give you kind of a general blueprint.

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I still highly recommend getting the depth of what each planet and each sign looks like,

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which is an easy Google if you just kind of check it out and read some articles so that

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you can see the context a little bit deeper.

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Me and Cat's charts, we've looked at them together and it's very funny. Me and Cat are

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two dominant elements are air and earth. So we both have four air signs. Cat has three

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air signs. I have four earth signs. So we both bring that kind of sense of groundedness,

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but also that kind of versatility of our air signs. And we definitely feel that together

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when we are doing anything. And so I thought it was so funny when I first read her chart.

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And yeah, maybe we can post our charts up too for fun on the Awaken Together Instagram.

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So if you want to nerd out on them.

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Yeah, yeah. And shocker that we met in Colorado.

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And so I feel such an earthy and airy state when compared to other places. Like, yeah,

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I love thinking about that.

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We needed our mountains.

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Yes. And yeah, so one of the other, I'm going to try to keep it, you know, not to over share

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too much information. But as we said with each of the signs, each of them fell into

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a different element. So fire, earth, air and water. And there's even an energy kind of

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behind each of the elements. So calculating how much of each element you have in your

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chart can be a fun way to start to dissect your own birth chart. Fire represents our

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passion, energy, enthusiasm, inspiration. It stands for a lot of initiation. And then

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earth is more stability, realism. They definitely can help more with the material, materialistic

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kind of goods because they're steady and resourceful.

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Air is all about our languaging, intellect, communication. It's a very social sign. It's

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constantly, it can just move a lot quicker. But without that, fire tends to like blast

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off and then kind of burn down. Air is just like kind of endlessly flowing. And then water

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represents emotional mysticism, intuition. Our water people usually, if you have high

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water, usually probably experience a larger array of emotions up and down too. Yeah, there

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are people that are feeling a lot of things and it's, I love, I tend to find, I don't

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know, this actually explains your cancer attraction there too, Kat, is me and you don't have a

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whole lot of water in our charts. And so I crave water people too. Like I love when I

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meet someone watery because they feel like they're embracing what I am lacking. So when

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I have people that are very emotionally charged around me, I love it because I don't really

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fall into that as easily. So when I feel someone like feeling it all, I'm like, yes, I love

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it. So we sometimes seek our balance. Yeah, exactly. We need to surround ourselves with

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people who have what we don't and not in the way of like, I want what they have, but in

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the way of like, this kind of rounds me out. It makes me feel balanced. Yeah, it creates

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so much more balance. I feel like, yeah, I've attracted so much of that too, because I'm

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lacking it in my chart without even knowing it. But it's funny to look at the people you

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have attracted around you very naturally. And when you start to kind of piece together

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their own birth chart with yours, it's just very funny to see the gaps that people play.

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Yeah, it's like intuitive knowing. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. One of the things I had once read,

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they're like, have you ever attracted people with a similar birthday or very close to each

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other? And I had three friends growing up that were all born on July 23rd. And I just

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thought that was so interesting because I had never really thought of that, like attracting

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three people of the same birthday. Not the charts still not much deeper than those initial

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sun signs. But it was fascinating that I had three childhood best friends that came in

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order with the same birthday. That was super strange.

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No, you know, it's so funny. I resonate with that too. Like growing up my two best friends,

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one was born two days after me, so she was also an Aquarius. And then my other best friend

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is a Cancer. And then my mom is a Gemini. And so I don't have like any Sagittarius

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in my life. I do not either. Like you're a Gemini, my mom. Like my husband Kyle is a

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Cancer and my best friend. And then I'm an Aquarius and so is my other. Like it's just

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wild when you really look at it at that level. Yes. And so we encountered talking before

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just so yeah, there is a lot of apps. I highly, highly recommend the pattern app. The pattern

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kind of simplifies astrology in general. It doesn't throw in any of the terminology of

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sun, any of the signs. It just gives it to you very digestibly. So if you have skeptics

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of the patterns also great because you're reading without seeing like some of the woo

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hoo triggers of like hearing signs. It just kind of gives you like a blueprint. You're

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like, Whoa, this is how does this app know who I am? It knows it from all the astrology,

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but it kind of hides it in the app. But you can also run charts together really smoothly

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on that app. And I love that too. Because looking at yeah, how you piece together with

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the people around you is is super fascinating. We were talking a little bit before my husband

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sun sign is a Taurus and I am a Gemini, which those two would be really, really bad together.

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But if you look at our whole charts together, we fit perfectly. So that's one of the other

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downfalls of sun sign astrology only is you might feel like someone's not good for you

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if you get too deeply into context with astrology because of what their sign is. But it's so

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important to look at the whole thing in general together because that's going to show a lot

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of what they can bring into your life, what you bring into them and see what your strengths

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are, as well as maybe what some of your blind spots will be.

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It's a great point. So what else? What other juicy things are in our charts?

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Yeah. So the only other thing I was going to kind of go over, which this is also getting

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a little bit higher level, but we've talked to before on this podcast about masculine

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and feminine energy. And there's definitely ways to like look up if you fall more into

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yang energy or into yen energy, masculine versus feminine and kind of the qualities

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behind those two things. I do think that looking at which one you fall into can really show

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a lot of the drive behind your actions, but it's actually in your astrology chart too.

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And for me, it was very accurate. Fire and air fall into masculine placement. So they

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are more of that yang energy. And then earth and water fall into the more feminine energy.

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And so when you look in your chart, if you go through your fire signs and mark down how

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many fire you have, how many air you have, how many water, how many earth, you can also

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determine then from there, if you fall into more masculine or more feminine placements.

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And that can be so fascinating. I don't think I've shared this before, but I have eight

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masculine placements in my chart and two feminine. And Kat's dynamic. So Kat, you are six masculine

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and five feminine. So you are very closer in balance. But it was so funny because Dani

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is the exact opposite. My husband has eight feminine, two masculine. This is so funny.

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We piece in together. So looking at that is also just another, I won't go super into Cardinal

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fixed and mutable that that is just kind of another thing you might see kind of pop up,

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especially on cafe astrology. That's just another set of things that give you quality.

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So there's basically like tons of way to dissect a birth chart, which once again reemphasizes,

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it's very hard to study every single one of these topics because it is high level. It's

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its own like course of study for sure. They say usually have to study astrology about

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seven years to be able to be like an astrologer. I have worked really hard on studying birth

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chart readings and it goes so much more vast than that. And yeah.

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Yes, it's amazing. Looking into the depths behind it is, I don't know, I feel like it's

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things that intuitively and maybe subconsciously you might know, but having the vocabulary

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and the systems to validate it is everything for me who's still like on the newer front

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of all this.

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Yeah. So let's talk a little bit about the shadow side of it. I think, you know, you

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can look as I, yeah, as I said, you get your birth chart. What you then can do is take

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where the sky currently is and apply it with your chart and look at what things are being

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emphasized. This is where some cultures get very strong on timing for big events. Like,

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should I take this job? Should I get married now? Should I be on the dating scene? Like

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it can get very high level on what's currently happening and you can usually find some rationale

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behind most things that are occurring in your life when they occurred. I do not think it's

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best to use astrology as a future predictor. I think in that case, we're kind of maybe

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over seeking a sense of control and I think that can get very ego kind of back to that

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ego concept. If you're trying to hyper control every single aspect of your life, I think

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you're really forgetting that ability to surrender and trust and honor the flow of your life.

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So I never look at what's coming except for maybe some really major aspects that are coming

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like such as Mercury retrograde like Kat shared, which is coming January 14th. I look at these

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kind of bigger aspects that I know affect my chart. I have a very strong Mercury rule

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chart between my Virgo rising and my Gemini Stellum. So when Virgo goes into retrograde

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for me, it's very palpable. So now I do kind of just like look and see when that's coming.

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But if you're using it to base every decision, you can get so caught up in anxiety from that

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because that is, I do not think that's the point. I think you're meant to use it to show

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that life is in flow, that you, you know, there's this beautiful kind of system looking

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out for you and that your soul came here to learn certain lessons. And that's probably

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why some things matter to you that don't matter to other people. For me, it like added to

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my sense of surrendering. Now, if something really weird happens in my life, sometimes

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I'll peek and be like, well, what's going on up there? Just so I have like a way to

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kind of rationalize it. I will do that after, but I do not use it to look at what's coming

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because I think you can get a little mad at that. A thousand percent. No, I totally agree.

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And I think it's a really important conversation to be had for that reason. I use it as a means

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for surrender as well, because for me, it's helpful to think that some crazy things that

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are happening in my life aren't all because of my own doing, but rather that it's a collective

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consciousness going back to our last episode of like, we are all plugged in, in playing

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a part and here's this thing that's manifesting for me, maybe similarly to someone else, maybe

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differently, but it just helps give me some more awareness and understanding. And the

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shadow side of that, of course, is when you feel like it's taken all your power away and

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that you are just this floating little blob in the universe that just has to kind of hunker

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down when bad things are coming your way. And that's not at all what it is. So just

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like that little air of caution of, yeah, maybe you don't check your horoscope every

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single day. Maybe you look at it like Jen said, when you want a little bit of help or

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validation explaining what is currently going on for you.

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Yeah. Yes, absolutely. And it should add ease. It should add ease because you're realizing

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that what is important to you really is supposed to be important. I think when you can get

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some peace about that in a world that definitely tries to define who we are all the time, I

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think that can bring like, yeah, just a tremendous amount of comfort. And yeah, I mean, we've

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done so many episodes sharing different avenues that show just the beauty of nature in cycles.

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And it's so beautiful to think, you know, there's all these planets just rotating in

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a solar system around us and that they can matter for our just general, general essence.

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It's not dictating every single action necessarily of your life, but it definitely is a guiding

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energy force. And I just love that thought just as, yeah, we've talked about the trees

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being connected and the cycles of the seasons and the cycles of the moon and just all this

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beautiful nature within our own body, but around us. And when you just see that, I just

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think it emphasizes like the beauty of this higher power and just kind of brings us back

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to the beauty of life versus getting so stuck in the minutia.

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So beautifully said. I love it. I love thinking of it that way.

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So a few apps that I want to recommend, I already said the pattern, I've already said

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CoStar. There's an app called Charts that I recently was recommended. That's also a

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really fun, clean layout too. And yeah, send your questions. We'll do a post on our page.

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I would love to hear people's big three and any thoughts you have on this episode. And

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if you ever want to do a more in-depth chart reading, I offer that at SensefulWellness.com.

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I absolutely would love to help guide you and explain some of the more in-depths of

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your chart as well.

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Yes, please do that with Jen. My reading was amazing. I still think about it a lot. So

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you definitely won't regret that. And yeah, message us on our Awaken Together podcast

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Instagram page with your top three, your big three. And we'd love to hear from you. In

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closing, this was such a fun episode to do with you, Jen. I loved it.

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Thanks. I love it. I loved your charts.

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So well said. And we wanted to give you a little reminder that our Awaken Together retreat

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is coming up as being a part of our inner circle, which we so appreciate. We're giving

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you all first dibs on signing up. There's a 10 person cap. It's taking place in Breckenridge,

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Colorado, April 27th to May 1st. We have a beautiful spacious place booked. It's my aunt

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and uncle's place.

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Insane. I'm not kidding.

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It's incredible. I've been there many times. We eloped. My husband and I eloped there in

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the backyard. So it's really near and dear to my heart. Can't find a better spot. It's

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right next to the Nordic Center. So we're going to have lots of nature exploring. It's

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sure to be full of heart-centered sisterhood, lots of sharing, yoga, delicious plant-based

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foods, and an opportunity to plug in even further on some of these more esoteric topics

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and have fun with that. So go to my website at www.catalystliving.com to learn more and

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book your spot there. We're going to be announcing this to the public on February 1st, and we're

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expecting spots to fill pretty quickly. So please just message us if you have any questions

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on that. We'd love to have you there. And if you enjoyed this episode of the podcast,

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we'd love for you to give us a little five-star review. Send us a follow, and we'll have more

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magic coming up for you in two weeks. Thanks everybody. Thank you, Jen. Bye, Kat. Bye.

