1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:13,040 Hello everybody, and welcome to episode 6 of the Awaken Together podcast. 2 00:00:13,040 --> 00:00:14,040 I'm Cat. 3 00:00:14,040 --> 00:00:15,040 I'm Jen. 4 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:20,660 And in today's episode, we are going to talk all about the balance between masculine and 5 00:00:20,660 --> 00:00:27,200 feminine energies, what that even means, and how we experience both within ourselves as 6 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:29,520 well as a collective society. 7 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:34,280 Before we dive in, we want to catch you up a little bit on our lives because we've had 8 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:35,280 a lot going on. 9 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:38,280 Yes, we have. 10 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:39,280 Right? 11 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:43,280 Jen just got back from leading her second retreat in Asheville, North Carolina. 12 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:47,720 Jen, you told me a little bit about it, but it just sounded magical. 13 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:49,960 I'm feeling so whole. 14 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:51,920 It was honestly beautiful. 15 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:57,960 One of my big dreams for this year, living in my car and kind of traveling the country, 16 00:00:57,960 --> 00:01:05,120 I was like, I will make time to actually get to spread out this gift, all this fun, all 17 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:07,280 this spirituality I've picked up along the way. 18 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:13,520 And I really wanted to put out some yoga retreats, events, workshops, just actually stepping 19 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:18,800 into my leadership teaching side because I've been a little sponge of knowledge all these 20 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:20,360 years. 21 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:23,040 And the group that showed up was amazing. 22 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:26,840 I think we all got exactly what we needed. 23 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:33,920 And as I told them when they showed up, real magic happens when you gather with this intention 24 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:40,560 to release and surrender and also feel, connect. 25 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:42,480 It was so much good. 26 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:51,760 Dancing, we did so many meditations, so many awesome yogas, made flower crowns, so much. 27 00:01:51,760 --> 00:02:00,720 And beyond that, Kat got freaking married for a second time. 28 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:03,480 Yeah, the official wedding. 29 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:08,840 She had that early elopement for the crazy yearly experience. 30 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:15,800 Yeah, so we had the elopement and this is our big celebration, Electric Forest themed. 31 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:18,600 And it was a long time in the making. 32 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:24,000 Kyle and I have been together for 10 years this year and it was just so special to celebrate 33 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:30,820 here in Colorado with all of our friends and our families who came all the way from Massachusetts. 34 00:02:30,820 --> 00:02:34,360 It was truly the best day of our lives so far. 35 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:36,320 It looked so beautiful. 36 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:38,920 And Electric Forest themed, like, come on. 37 00:02:38,920 --> 00:02:40,240 It's so cute. 38 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:44,560 It looked like a magical colorful dream. 39 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:45,560 There was a donkey. 40 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:48,840 Please go look on Kat's Instagram. 41 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:49,840 It's so cute. 42 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:55,640 Donkey, fire spinner, rave, just everything we could have imagined and more. 43 00:02:55,640 --> 00:03:00,760 And I'm so proud of you for embracing that quirky kind of your own style and putting 44 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:06,280 it on the wedding, which yeah, really fits into our conversations a bit today. 45 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:11,040 Feeling like there's one right way for each thing and how that is not the case. 46 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:12,320 Exactly. 47 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:14,800 Really good tie in for today's theme. 48 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:20,400 So we wanted to start off by giving you all just a little bit of a breakdown with what 49 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:25,020 we mean when we talk about feminine energy versus masculine energy. 50 00:03:25,020 --> 00:03:28,200 So I'll start with the feminine. 51 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:32,480 Traditionally feminine energy, we have both, right? 52 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:38,220 This is located on the left side of our bodies and it's the lunar side. 53 00:03:38,220 --> 00:03:44,720 Some qualities that are associated with feminine energy are being receptive, being more passive 54 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:50,080 intuitive and turning your attention inward. 55 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:58,840 And when the feminine energies are balanced, you will experience unconditional love, understanding, 56 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:07,920 nurturing tenderness, creativity, lots of feelings, just that whole essence of flow, 57 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:12,400 ease, sensitivity, radiance and allowing. 58 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:16,520 So there's a lot of qualities, right? 59 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:18,960 And then the wounded feminine. 60 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:24,600 This is the other side of things because both masculine and feminine can be unhealed and 61 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:27,980 we've all experienced both sides of the coins. 62 00:04:27,980 --> 00:04:31,200 So wounded feminine, this is victimhood. 63 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:40,680 This is feelings of powerlessness, weakness, being manipulated, codependent, over emotional, 64 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:43,240 over sensitive, really needy. 65 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:46,320 So that kind of energy. 66 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:51,140 Now on the other side of things, there's masculine energy. 67 00:04:51,140 --> 00:04:54,960 And some of the qualities that are really closely associated with masculine energy are 68 00:04:54,960 --> 00:05:02,660 being projective, outward, expansive, active and giving. 69 00:05:02,660 --> 00:05:07,120 Some other qualities, just really neutral ones that are associated with masculine energy 70 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:19,320 are a sense of protection, boundaries, courage, discipline, being assertive, stability, confidence 71 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:24,720 and just like overall focus and responsibility. 72 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:30,000 Now the wounded masculine, this is the opposite of the wounded feminine. 73 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:34,600 So we said victim, this is abuse. 74 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:36,860 We talked about powerlessness. 75 00:05:36,860 --> 00:05:46,200 This is abuse of power, dominance, aggression, control, sense of competitiveness, confrontational, 76 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:49,480 being overly critical or even avoidant. 77 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:55,160 So some pretty intense feelings. 78 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:56,720 And it's super important. 79 00:05:56,720 --> 00:06:00,840 You have these qualities, which it's very important to kind of know what falls under 80 00:06:00,840 --> 00:06:02,360 each side. 81 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:07,320 But it's very important that when we look at feminine and masculine, we're not talking 82 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:08,320 about gender. 83 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:13,680 We're really viewing that through the lens of being an energetic quality, that there's 84 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:18,840 these two energies that when they blend together, allow us to feel very balanced. 85 00:06:18,840 --> 00:06:25,840 And I know that with all the fight we're having to do for gender equality and then even just 86 00:06:25,840 --> 00:06:31,840 being able to step in and blend those two things, there's a lot of resistance to what 87 00:06:31,840 --> 00:06:38,440 feminine is, what masculine is, and those boxes that we've have that label and put each 88 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:42,680 quality into one of those, it can feel very restrictive. 89 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:47,600 And we're really trying to break down the boxes of what feminine even was supposed to 90 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:51,880 look like and what masculine was supposed to look like externally. 91 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:55,720 But when we think of it inward and we think of that balance between both things as an 92 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:59,080 energy, that is a beautiful way to look at it. 93 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:03,120 So we really are trying to take away what that needs to look like externally because 94 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:05,320 it's going to look different for everybody. 95 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:07,600 So that's really important to preface. 96 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:14,720 But this topic, like learning about masculine and feminine or even yin and yang, that was 97 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:16,880 a huge part of my spiritual journey. 98 00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:22,440 I thought for me that was one of the biggest things that showed me what I needed to work 99 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:24,440 on. 100 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:29,040 Especially before getting into spirituality and yoga and all of it, I thought I was this 101 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:30,760 very type A person. 102 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:32,680 I love to get things done. 103 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:35,200 I was a power through type of person. 104 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:41,640 I used to brag that I had only taken one day off in five years and that I always show up 105 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:42,640 to work. 106 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:45,100 I have this incredible work ethic. 107 00:07:45,100 --> 00:07:53,540 I also saw my imbalance towards that more masculine and yang, always wanting my exercises 108 00:07:53,540 --> 00:07:54,880 to be really worth it. 109 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:57,360 I went really hard when I was going to exercise. 110 00:07:57,360 --> 00:08:00,440 If I was going to move my body, it better be worth it. 111 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:02,080 I better burn enough calories. 112 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:04,600 I wanted it to be worth my time. 113 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:07,000 I always process things very logically. 114 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:09,160 I used to say, I don't really cry a lot. 115 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:12,880 I don't really have a lot of emotions very much. 116 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:14,680 I just can keep it together more. 117 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:19,720 All these little things I used to brag on, even saying that I'd rather hang out with 118 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:22,120 guys, that I get along with them better. 119 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:29,920 It's all these terrible things to justify my real strong imbalance towards my masculine 120 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:31,240 side of myself. 121 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:38,680 I thought the feminine side, any of that emotional receptiveness, that intuitive side, it appeared 122 00:08:38,680 --> 00:08:40,840 to me to be weaker. 123 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:46,000 I really fought to justify that other side of myself. 124 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:54,080 It makes so much sense that the feminine energies are just suppressed when there's both wounded 125 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:56,840 feminine and wooden masculine. 126 00:08:56,840 --> 00:09:02,640 Who's going to come on top in a situation of one who feels powerless and one who feels 127 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:07,760 a need to obtain power? 128 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:14,240 That's what we've seen historically in society and obviously still today, but it wasn't always 129 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:15,800 this way. 130 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:19,760 We have been conditioned to see it this way. 131 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:22,640 It starts at a really young age. 132 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:28,560 It's kind of sad when we think about it, but it goes all the way back to elementary school. 133 00:09:28,560 --> 00:09:31,480 Think of all the competitions that we were a part of. 134 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:36,560 They were kind of fun, but there was always a winner and there was always a loser. 135 00:09:36,560 --> 00:09:39,640 That's a very masculine quality. 136 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:45,800 And nowadays when we hear about competitions where there's multiple winners or no winners 137 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:49,600 at all, we hear people saying, oh, what is this? 138 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:53,200 The pacification of America. 139 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:55,880 That is the wounded masculine speaking. 140 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:59,320 And even having to always show up for school. 141 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:04,200 Yeah, there's this like, it was just such a, you better show up, you better be consistent, 142 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:06,640 you better be here every day. 143 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:12,760 Still not really honoring this like, maybe I'm going to fluctuate a little in how I can 144 00:10:12,760 --> 00:10:16,160 perform, what I can do. 145 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:21,720 Maybe I'm sick today and I need to lay on the couch and be sick and not get other sicks. 146 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:23,720 Yeah, and God forbid you have too many sick days. 147 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:24,720 Right, right. 148 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:30,740 It's just really wild to look back and think about how school starts to train us so young 149 00:10:30,740 --> 00:10:33,960 to really live in this masculine way. 150 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:40,560 So even thinking about crying, crying in school, you learn really young that the kids who cry 151 00:10:40,560 --> 00:10:46,520 are the weak ones and that it's not appropriate to cry in class or else you'll be seen that 152 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:47,800 way. 153 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:51,280 Be emotionally consistent in school, sit, behave. 154 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:55,080 Fake it till you make it. 155 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:58,320 And those are also the first classes that are cut. 156 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:03,560 So we talked about how creativity is a natural feminine quality. 157 00:11:03,560 --> 00:11:13,840 All of those subjects like art class, like music, theater, those are the first that are 158 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:17,280 cut when schools need to make budget cuts. 159 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:22,680 It's not the maths, the sciences, even though many people make their careers in the arts 160 00:11:22,680 --> 00:11:27,480 and they may not have experienced that if their school wasn't able to provide. 161 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:29,640 Same thing with pay. 162 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:35,000 Art teachers, anything in the arts, pay is not good. 163 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:41,600 Even health, something that has somewhere along the lines been slated as a feminine 164 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:47,740 industry, probably because it's seen as caring about people and the emotions and the nurturing 165 00:11:47,740 --> 00:11:49,000 behind that. 166 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:53,200 But the health industry, a lot of people, like yoga teachers, we don't make a ton of 167 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:55,840 money at all. 168 00:11:55,840 --> 00:12:01,400 Especially when you compare that to the really masculine, heavy industries like data, science, 169 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:04,960 math, where are they working much harder? 170 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:07,840 I'd argue no. 171 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:13,760 Just a different skill set and we're saying that that is worth more monetary wise. 172 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:14,760 Yeah. 173 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:22,100 Yeah, these presets go so far back and maybe you don't fall more into the masculine side, 174 00:12:22,100 --> 00:12:28,160 but if we do look at our more recent history, the masculine, that active, goal oriented, 175 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:35,320 push forward, strive to achieve, all of that has been the root of how we're trained from 176 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:40,920 a very young age, going through our school years and then leading into immediately going 177 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:45,120 to college, feeling like that's the right trajectory. 178 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:46,160 That is huge. 179 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:53,240 We look back on a lot of movements that have tried to blend this, any pushback on this 180 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:56,040 standard way of doing things. 181 00:12:56,040 --> 00:13:02,040 We look at the women's movement where they were originally really pushed to be in the 182 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:04,520 same spaces as men. 183 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:11,280 This is looking more at a gender side of things, but when a lot of females try to push into 184 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:17,320 the men's workplace, there was so much resistance and you look at that movement and how it got 185 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:22,600 advertised in the news and in newspapers and it was the women are going crazy. 186 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:30,040 There's these wild, evil women trying to do all this stuff and they're so emotional. 187 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:36,600 It was labeled so ugly and poor and luckily there's still been these amazing, badass women 188 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:42,600 in history that have been able to hold against that and say this isn't fair and that we should 189 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:46,640 be able to be in the same spaces together. 190 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:51,200 It might have not even been, it could have been a more masculine female that even pushed 191 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:54,660 into breaking some of those masculine norms. 192 00:13:54,660 --> 00:14:01,920 This is very much a blend of energies, but collectively they made women very small and 193 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:10,520 stay in that box of feminine and they made men very large and in that box of masculine. 194 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:18,200 You really saw that as a standard in relationships and in the workplace, but the second women 195 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:25,000 started getting louder and wanting to break those boxes and say I don't want to stay at 196 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:26,000 home all the time. 197 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:31,320 I want to embrace more of an active, more heavy working side. 198 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:36,920 That was where some of the masculine did blend for that and then a lot of the masculine got 199 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:42,840 very offended and that unhealed masculine really tried to push back. 200 00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:50,480 We look at our history and this constant battle back and forth and I'm really proud to see 201 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:56,840 this stuff all kind of blending and starting to get a little less boxed in and a little 202 00:14:56,840 --> 00:14:59,360 more open. 203 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:07,280 I had a friend that I talked to, she identifies as she her and is way more in tune with her 204 00:15:07,280 --> 00:15:13,320 feminine side compared to me who's always felt like very much embracing my masculine 205 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:16,760 side more than my feminine. 206 00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:22,280 She really likes to be in relationships where she's with a very masculine heavy person, 207 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:26,880 someone that'll kind of tell her more what to do, push her a little bit more. 208 00:15:26,880 --> 00:15:29,920 That to her feels very balanced. 209 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:34,520 That could be the case in some relationships where we look externally to kind of match 210 00:15:34,520 --> 00:15:39,960 that imbalance that we have in our own lives versus trying to maybe balance it a little 211 00:15:39,960 --> 00:15:41,600 more in ourselves first. 212 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:43,160 Yeah, it's healthy. 213 00:15:43,160 --> 00:15:48,720 We need both like you're saying and oftentimes when we say we look externally for things, 214 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:52,680 let's look down upon, but I think this is one place where it can actually be really 215 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:54,760 healthy and nursing. 216 00:15:54,760 --> 00:16:01,680 We were talking a little bit before about how we see this in ourselves and our relationships. 217 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:08,000 I was sharing a little bit about how in my relationship with my husband Kyle, he hates 218 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:14,560 when I do this, but I always say, oh, my little cancer. 219 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:22,800 He is way more in tune and in touch with his emotions than I am and it's a gift. 220 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:27,680 It's not anything to be ashamed of or looked down upon, although the wounded masculine, 221 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:32,880 I'm sure would make him feel maybe a little embarrassed that I'm even sharing this about 222 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:38,360 him because they're supposed to be tough and unemotional and all that. 223 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:44,240 But it's beautiful because he's taught me so much more about feminine energy in that 224 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:50,800 regard and we're able to have much more productive conversations because he's able to guide us 225 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:57,520 there in terms of me doing something that upset him and why and getting me to see his 226 00:16:57,520 --> 00:17:00,400 side and be more open in that way. 227 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:04,080 Yeah, and I'm in the exact same relationship balance. 228 00:17:04,080 --> 00:17:05,080 No shock there. 229 00:17:05,080 --> 00:17:07,640 Me and Kat's lives parallels to the end. 230 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:16,640 But literally, yeah, Danny, who I'm married to, is such a more feminine charged guy and 231 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:23,320 for me, I've had to learn a ton on balancing that feminine side of myself to not only make 232 00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:29,880 sure I'm not riding off of this power within our relationship, but also embracing his strength 233 00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:36,080 and allowing us to mirror each other and where we're missing and lacking some of that balance 234 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:39,040 between that feminine and masculine side. 235 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:45,120 And on a side note, two things that I just have blown my mind on this spiritual journey 236 00:17:45,120 --> 00:17:52,080 as I looked at these two things being more of an energy than necessarily gender norm, 237 00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:56,560 labels, all the bullshit that it's turned into. 238 00:17:56,560 --> 00:18:01,600 As I got into astrology, which is a whole other fun thing I could go on and on about, 239 00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:06,400 you actually have placements in that soul blueprint, that initial moment you took your 240 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:07,880 first breath. 241 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:13,280 There is really placements that lean more into Yang. 242 00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:18,360 I looked in my birth chart and I have eight masculine placements and two feminine, and 243 00:18:18,360 --> 00:18:22,320 Danny has eight feminine placements, two masculine placements. 244 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:23,320 Balance. 245 00:18:23,320 --> 00:18:29,680 So it's so worth noting that it wasn't putting these labels on him, but it was kind of his 246 00:18:29,680 --> 00:18:31,880 preset to begin with. 247 00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:36,200 And although we're both working on blending those two and ourselves so that we can be 248 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:43,160 more present for each other, it is very noted that that was in the stars from the beginning 249 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:44,160 of the journey. 250 00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:47,720 I need you to check out our charts too, because I have to know this now if we're like the 251 00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:51,800 same exact as you two or what eye balance is. 252 00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:52,800 I know. 253 00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:53,800 I will die. 254 00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:54,800 I'm sure. 255 00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:55,800 Honestly, watch it be. 256 00:18:55,800 --> 00:18:56,800 Yeah. 257 00:18:56,800 --> 00:18:57,800 Right? 258 00:18:57,800 --> 00:19:01,760 And thinking about that too, the whole traditional going back in time where the traditional 259 00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:06,920 gender roles were very prevalent and it's all society new. 260 00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:13,080 Men were expected to be the decision makers, be the one who would provide, and the women 261 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:16,000 would be home and care for the children. 262 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:23,280 Those were very stark differences to our blended society now of where we all understand that 263 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:28,480 we are both and we can be both and that we shouldn't conform to different ideologies 264 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:29,960 that don't feel aligned. 265 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:35,760 So those whole quotes of like, oh, she wears the pants in that relationship and kind of 266 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:40,320 looking down on someone in that way, that is out. 267 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:41,320 That's gone. 268 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:43,000 Same with the whole, she's the woman. 269 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:48,120 She's the breadwinner and kind of looking down on the man for that. 270 00:19:48,120 --> 00:19:50,760 No, that's not a thing anymore. 271 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:54,360 You've got to shove that stuff down no more. 272 00:19:54,360 --> 00:19:56,360 Yeah, shove that down. 273 00:19:56,360 --> 00:19:58,720 No place for that here. 274 00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:07,960 And we are transcending, blending both energies and even thinking back to ancient times. 275 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:10,920 This is not a foreign concept. 276 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:18,080 We're along the lines, we got really convoluted and we shifted to really, really just siloing 277 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:19,880 people from feminine to masculine. 278 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:24,680 But thinking back to ancient Greece, I'm Greek, so I'd have to throw this in. 279 00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:26,960 100% I would. 280 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:33,880 But it was a very even blend of masculine and feminine energies and it was a very successful 281 00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:35,040 society. 282 00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:40,720 We look to them to be leaders of the arts and the sciences. 283 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:45,440 Path and theater, astrology and democracy. 284 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:52,360 So cool to see what came of that time when the focus and importance was even on both. 285 00:20:52,360 --> 00:20:53,360 Yeah. 286 00:20:53,360 --> 00:20:56,400 And I'll take it back to my background a little bit too. 287 00:20:56,400 --> 00:21:03,280 I grew up in the Christian church and this is a huge issue you see in the church. 288 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:09,640 There's really a big pull in that the man is supposed to be in charge of the household, 289 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:11,920 that he can make all the decisions. 290 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:16,440 There's even a lot of people that still believe women shouldn't be pastors. 291 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:20,280 I've even seen that, which is so cringe. 292 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:28,600 But I remember growing up that all the sides that embrace my more fluidness, my trust in 293 00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:35,480 this inner knowing, my sensuality, my ability to move my body really freely, which we'll 294 00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:37,720 go into as being some of the homework. 295 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:44,320 But I was so scared to do all of that because I really did feel and equate it to my evil 296 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:46,680 side, my more sinful side. 297 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:51,120 I would drop something on the ground and pick it up all carefully, making sure I didn't 298 00:21:51,120 --> 00:21:52,760 move my body certain ways. 299 00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:59,320 I really started believing in my mind that my body had rules it was supposed to follow. 300 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:05,200 And so I think that's why all of this was such a huge mind blowing thing to me is that 301 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:09,920 I really started just going into the energy that I thought was stronger and safer and 302 00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:11,040 more reliable. 303 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:18,680 And I lost so much connection to my intuition in the process, feeling like, yeah, there's 304 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:20,360 one logical way to do things. 305 00:22:20,360 --> 00:22:24,840 And if I can just figure out all the rules to how everything works, then I will be good 306 00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:27,520 to go, never causing a problem. 307 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:35,120 And it really was huge for me to realize how much I was repressing the side of myself from 308 00:22:35,120 --> 00:22:37,480 the way I was raised and the way I was taught. 309 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:38,680 That was huge for me. 310 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:46,520 Yeah, if you look back, there are just countless examples for all of us and how we were conditioned 311 00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:49,760 to believe that we were supposed to act a certain way. 312 00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:53,760 When really, that wasn't what our intuition, what our guts were telling us that we wanted 313 00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:55,160 to do. 314 00:22:55,160 --> 00:23:01,560 For me personally, I really resonate with a lot of what you said, Jen, of course. 315 00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:07,240 I was very similar in the way of, I remember telling Kyle even when we just started dating 316 00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:10,720 in college, like, oh yeah, I don't cry. 317 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:12,360 I just don't cry. 318 00:23:12,360 --> 00:23:14,360 I'm not an emotional person. 319 00:23:14,360 --> 00:23:16,400 Yes, I am. 320 00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:18,200 We're so proud of it. 321 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:19,440 Oh, I've repressed so much. 322 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:20,440 Isn't that great? 323 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:21,440 Right? 324 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:27,340 It's a compliment, a badge of honor that I wear when really that was just masculine 325 00:23:27,340 --> 00:23:31,120 energy in me trying to prove that I was strong. 326 00:23:31,120 --> 00:23:35,880 That I didn't need to be soft for whatever reason. 327 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:36,880 That I was tough. 328 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:38,000 I could handle things. 329 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:44,360 I could take care of myself, be an independent woman while I could still do all of that and 330 00:23:44,360 --> 00:23:45,360 cry. 331 00:23:45,360 --> 00:23:46,360 Yes. 332 00:23:46,360 --> 00:23:47,360 Yep. 333 00:23:47,360 --> 00:23:48,360 So good. 334 00:23:48,360 --> 00:23:55,640 And I have to say, as many, I love to talk about theories on this, but we look at our 335 00:23:55,640 --> 00:24:01,000 current today and we see all these gender norms being blended. 336 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:03,440 We see gender fluidity. 337 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:10,440 I am pumped to see all of this because I really believe that we are shifting back into, yeah, 338 00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:14,920 maybe what was very ancient knowledge that was understood and somewhere along the way 339 00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:16,580 we really lost it. 340 00:24:16,580 --> 00:24:24,360 But this rise of healers, intuitives, witches, all this brought up of the spiritual side 341 00:24:24,360 --> 00:24:30,200 of ourselves is really bringing back that divine feminine. 342 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:35,320 I think as that meets where we already are collectively, where the masculine has already 343 00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:42,880 taken us in the last 100 years at least, even more, we look at those blends and if we can 344 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:48,880 keep moving forward with embracing the divine feminine, really staying in that divine masculine 345 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:54,480 and taking that unhealed side of both and dropping it, I think we can really shift what 346 00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:57,040 this world and reality looks like. 347 00:24:57,040 --> 00:24:58,040 Yeah. 348 00:24:58,040 --> 00:24:59,040 I so agree. 349 00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:06,440 I think it really all goes down to just staying open and being keen on learning because that's 350 00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:12,000 like the one best quality I think a person can have is being a learner and being open 351 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:14,520 and not putting up those walls. 352 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:20,320 It can be really hard to do when there's something deep inside you that says, this feels wrong 353 00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:24,960 or gets really defensive and jumps up, but it's questioning that and just still listening 354 00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:26,480 and being open. 355 00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:31,880 I have a really special relationship with my dad and I really applaud him on being good 356 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:37,120 at just that, at being open and wanting to learn even when it feels uncomfortable to 357 00:25:37,120 --> 00:25:38,120 him. 358 00:25:38,120 --> 00:25:45,080 I have one of my cousins came out as transgender and she's amazing. 359 00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:49,800 It was in the family, of course, something that I talked about with my dad because when 360 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:51,880 it came out, it was new. 361 00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:56,700 It hadn't happened in our family before, no one had ever come out as somewhere else 362 00:25:56,700 --> 00:26:01,960 on the gender spectrum other than just cisgender. 363 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:13,160 It was a first and my dad asked me some questions about it, not in a harsh way or insulting 364 00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:15,520 way, but in a way that he was actually curious. 365 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:20,640 I remember just explaining to him how gender is fluid, like we've been saying, and how 366 00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:25,480 there's a whole spectrum, a whole range in which people can fall and someone might fall 367 00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:31,240 right in the middle even and not identify with one, which we now know is non-binary. 368 00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:34,640 You can be born into one, but actually feel the other. 369 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:37,480 I just remember this blowing his mind. 370 00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:38,480 So cute. 371 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:41,480 Bryce, little sweet little boomer. 372 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:42,480 Thank you. 373 00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:43,480 We need those. 374 00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:45,600 Such pouring concept. 375 00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:50,720 I think the more that we can educate our parents, each other, and just stay open, the better 376 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:53,120 we will all be and rise together. 377 00:26:53,120 --> 00:26:54,120 Amen. 378 00:26:54,120 --> 00:26:55,120 Yes, yes. 379 00:26:55,120 --> 00:26:59,520 So a little homework just to wrap us up. 380 00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:06,360 If you feel like you do fall more into that feminine, so that intuitive, fluid, empathetic, 381 00:27:06,360 --> 00:27:12,960 sensual, receptive, nurturing side, one of the beautiful ways to start balancing a little 382 00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:19,600 bit more masculine energy, inviting more of that in, creating an inner fire with exercise, 383 00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:25,040 feeling like that you find that fiery type of movement, creating challenges and goals 384 00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:26,040 for yourself. 385 00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:30,440 So really setting out what you need to do, when you need to do it, becoming a little 386 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:33,800 more constructive in the way you do things. 387 00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:36,480 Power yoga is an awesome way. 388 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:41,960 Yoga in general is very much blending both energies, but especially if you know you fall 389 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:48,960 into that slower pace, like adding in that more maybe vinyasa style or power style yoga. 390 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:52,040 And then really letting yourself step into leadership. 391 00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:56,080 Leadership is a huge way to step into more of that divine masculine. 392 00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:57,080 And then we'll go vice versa. 393 00:27:57,080 --> 00:28:04,280 If you fall more into masculine, like me and Kat in our original imbalance, where you're 394 00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:09,760 more structured, strong, goal-oriented, stable, logical. 395 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:14,280 My real homework for me has been diving more into my intuition. 396 00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:19,820 So dancing intuitively, really making myself listen more instead of feeling like I have 397 00:28:19,820 --> 00:28:24,360 it all right and really staying in that more receptive state. 398 00:28:24,360 --> 00:28:30,760 Adding in yin yoga practices, connecting with groups of women, or getting into an intuitive 399 00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:36,720 space where you set that intention on diving into feeling more. 400 00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:40,400 Yoga retreats, wink, wink. 401 00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:43,720 Really letting yourself create just to create. 402 00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:49,640 I think the biggest reason we've fallen away from the divine feminine is because creativity 403 00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:53,200 has been seen as this thing you're either good at or bad at. 404 00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:58,240 So finding that flow state, just putting stuff out there, knowing that when you're creating 405 00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:04,040 and you're tuned into that, you lose track of time and you lose track of this need to 406 00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:05,980 have it be for a deeper reason. 407 00:29:05,980 --> 00:29:08,480 You're letting yourself play and just dive in. 408 00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:09,480 Yes. 409 00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:12,480 Amen to that, sister. 410 00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:13,480 Yes. 411 00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:17,400 Homework given, all kinds of fun stuff. 412 00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:23,280 We're so thankful you guys joined us for another beautiful topic. 413 00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:25,160 We will talk to you soon. 414 00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:26,160 Yes. 415 00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:29,960 Please let us know if you have any questions and feedback. 416 00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:32,960 We'd love to hear it all and just keep the conversation going. 417 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:35,040 So we'll see you all next week. 418 00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:36,040 Bye, guys. 419 00:29:36,040 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