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With Appalachians there's a religious culture, but not a Christian culture.

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There's a religious culture, but not a culture that knows Jesus.

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There's a religious culture, but not one that understands the Gospel.

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From Tri-State Bible College and the Appalachian Ministry Institute, this is the Level Paths

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Podcast.

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My name is Chris Weigel and we're glad you've taken some time to join us today.

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Once you're already here, you probably have a pretty good idea of what this is all about.

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We're diving into finding ways to creatively lead effective and dynamic ministries in a

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region that is home to nearly 23 million people.

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It's called Appalachia.

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And as this very first episode unfolds, you'll get a more clear picture and a lot more details.

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Level Paths, by the way, comes from Isaiah 40 verses 3 and 4.

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Clear the way through the wilderness for the Lord, fill in the valleys and level the mountains

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and hills, straighten the curves and smooth out the rough places.

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Sound familiar?

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Well, if you've ever driven the West Virginia Turnpike from Charleston to Beckley, you've

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seen firsthand what filling in the valleys and leveling the mountains and hills looks

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like.

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But how do these verses from Isaiah 40 apply to ministry in Appalachia?

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Is the Appalachian region any different than other geographical areas in the US?

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Well on this very first episode, you'll meet Rex Howe.

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Rex is the president of Tri-State Bible College in South Point, Ohio, and he's joined by Matt

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Shamblin, an Appalachian research fellow at Tri-State Bible College.

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This episode begins to peel back the layers and spell out what is so unique about ministry

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in Appalachia.

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So let's get right to it.

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Here's Rex Howe and Matt Shamblin.

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So welcome everyone to the Level Paths Podcast.

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My name is Rex Howe and I'm here with my colleague, my partner in crime.

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It's good to be here that we could finally get together on this and hopefully be a help

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to folks who are in Appalachia.

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Yes.

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We have been planning and praying for this for quite some time and it's exciting that

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it's finally getting off the ground.

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We have been talking about engaging Christian ministry in Appalachia for the glory of God,

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being clear view in Appalachia.

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And we're going to unpack what the goal of the blog is and some of the other stuff.

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But Matt, let's start with what is Appalachia?

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What are we talking about?

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Well, when we talk about Appalachia, there's a lot of definitions that really come to the

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forefront.

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The Appalachian Regional Commission, which was a commission that's more than 50 years

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old now, is going to give us a government definition.

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It's going to be an area of about 13 states all the way from lower New York all the way

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into Florida.

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Not everyone takes it that far.

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But we're talking about a number of people to the tune of about 23 million people, 200,000

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square miles.

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It's a portion of a large percentage of the East Coast, but is there only one state that

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actually is fully Appalachian?

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And that's West Virginia, which is where I'm from.

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And where Tri-State Bible College is just right on the border there.

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So this has been a really good fit as we explore Appalachia.

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Some would say anywhere that there is coal under the ground, that is Appalachia, which

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makes it a very broad definition.

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But it's a rural people.

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It's a people that have had to strive for identity.

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It's not a Southern culture.

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It has a lot in common with the Southern culture, but it's not a Southern culture, nor is it

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a Northern culture.

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Appalachia has its own culture, and that's why this podcast is so important.

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So we are in, I've heard you say this before, we're in Central Appalachia.

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Is there anything unique about Central Appalachia?

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Maybe you watch Netflix and you watch the J.D. Vance's movie.

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The book made to a movie called Hillbilly Elegy.

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And there's been so much backlash because of what's portrayed there.

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But what is portrayed is often a culture that is found in Central Appalachia.

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Some have called it America's ghetto.

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They have given it that title of America's enduring social and economic problem.

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Central Appalachia has a mix of a Southern culture.

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It has a mix of a Northern culture.

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It is not Bible-belt.

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As a matter of fact, it's one of the least churched areas in the nation.

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But it is an area that is ripe for the gospel.

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People make that mistake.

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They see churches on every hillside.

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There's a lot of assumptions that there's a Bible blanket over the area.

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Those of us who have ministered in the area and grown up in the area and seen some of

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the darkness of the area.

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Let's talk about that.

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What are some of the unique spiritual perils?

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That's going to help us in a little bit, I think.

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Talk about some of the mountains and valleys of Appalachia.

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What are some of the mountains and valleys of Appalachia, the spiritual perils that prevent

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us from seeing the glory of God?

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What are those things?

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In his book, Appalachian Values, Loyal Jones, who really is the brain trust of all things

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Appalachia, writes about several values that are identifiable in Appalachia.

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One of those is its religion.

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It's not necessary to say that Appalachia, though it be a religious place, is a Christian

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place.

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Religion has found its way into the culture to literally define who we are as a people,

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without us even knowing it.

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When I started to study Appalachian values, not the book necessarily, I'm talking about

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what makes us unique.

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I did so really out of the desire to be able to more effectively reach Appalachia with

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the gospel.

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That's where I found myself ministering.

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That's who I am.

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I hate this phrase, but I had to unpack who I was in order to understand who I am.

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With Appalachians, there's a religious culture, but not a Christian culture.

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There's a religious culture, but not a culture that knows Jesus.

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There's a religious culture, but not one that understands the gospel.

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That becomes a major pitfall, a major peril in trying to communicate the gospel, because

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very quickly, very easily, that community Appalachian language steps over.

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Though we may be using the same language, we're using a different diction here.

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Now, we talked about this example of the homecoming in Appalachia.

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I remember these growing up as a kid.

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It was a big deal.

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You had people showing up at homecoming that it was like a family reunion.

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People coming from all over, tons of food all day at church, but then the next week,

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it was back to normal.

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What do you mean by religion, but not necessarily Christian?

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Maybe the homecoming is an example of that?

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The unique Christian community Appalachian happening is that homecoming.

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Some of our listeners may not know what a homecoming is, but a homecoming is a gathering

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of a church community for the sake of community and the sake of getting folks back together,

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not for the sake of the gospel.

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It's not uncommon for a church building to exist that does not regularly have church,

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but they will annually have homecoming.

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Think of that.

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This gathering that we call homecoming doesn't have in any way the purpose of preaching the

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gospel, explaining the Bible, applying it to their lives, seeing lost people raised

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from death to life.

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That's not the purpose.

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The purpose is to get the people from that particular holler or that particular community

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together to see one another again.

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So many folks had to leave Appalachia for work.

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My father tells a story about needing work, and so they went to Ohio.

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They went north into Ohio in order to find a job, and so they would come back, and that's

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what homecoming is.

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Just imagine the center of the community at one time was their little church, and often

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these are one-room white-brained churches.

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The center of the community is that church, though the people who come back to that homecoming

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may be grandchildren, great-grandchildren, great-great-grandchildren, aunts, uncles, cousins who never actually

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attended a worship service of Jesus Christ in that building.

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I'm thinking of Dr. Michael Svego has a book called Retro Christianity.

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In that book, he talks about the essential marks and works of a local church, and the

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marks are orthodoxy, ordinances, and order, so leadership, and then the marks are evangelism,

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edification, and exaltation.

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If those things aren't happening week to week, you don't really have a New Testament church,

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but what you do have is a community, family-oriented, cultural center, but absent of a really great

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commission type of a ministry.

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You know, years ago, I was in conversation with some folks in New England, and it's not

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uncommon in New England for there to be what was at one time church buildings, but they've

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become community buildings.

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No one in the community ever remembers a time when it was a church building.

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It's a community building, and you see that really replicated in this idea of Appalachian

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homecomings.

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We're going back, we're going to get together, and even have a picnic in the local cemetery,

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which I think is so bizarre.

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The point is not about Jesus.

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The point is about community and getting together for those people who were on that hilltop

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to get together and see one another and relive that tradition that essentially was lost as

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they went to Ohio, went to Michigan, went away for work.

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And so it's kind of the reliving of Appalachia.

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And the truth is, you also see this in reverse too.

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It's not uncommon for where these families had left Appalachia to go to a place to work,

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to go find Appalachian churches in northern places, in western places.

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So there's an Appalachian church out west.

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There's an Appalachian church in Michigan in a very non-Appalachian culture, because

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then we're going to take our culture with us.

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We're going to take a little bit of Appalachia with us and meet there on Sunday.

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So again, that religion, but not Jesus, again, is yet bled into that place.

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So we've talked about some of the mountains, and we'll get into this more throughout the

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podcast.

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What are some of those spiritual perils in Appalachia that people who are in ministry

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or just church members, church people, Christian people wrestle with as they try to seek God

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and see His glory in this area?

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What are some of the views of God's glory that we see in Appalachia?

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What are some of the glorious things about the Lord's work in Appalachia that you've

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experienced?

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So we can look to its history.

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We can look in its culture, and we can see that remnant of religion.

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Loyal Jones says, religion has shaped our lives, and we have shaped our religion.

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When you drive through Appalachia, you see little white-framed churches on every mountaintop,

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up every holler, on every corner.

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Most of them are closed, and some of them are dilapidated now.

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But the reason I bring that up is because that homecoming that we talked about, that

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religion that shaped lives, tells us that there was an incredible, great move of God

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in the past in Appalachia.

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And that gives me incredible hope for today.

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And that methodology that we've tried to modernize, actually, we need to go back.

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And instead of trying to bring southern or northern or whatever religious culture to

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Appalachia, we need to reach Appalachia where it is.

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We need to contextualize because that's what happened in the past.

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This great move of God was that men, missionaries, came on horseback.

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They would reach people from the community, young men from the community, disciple them,

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and then send them out on horseback, and they'd be preaching on a charge, one pastor for multiple

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churches.

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And God moved.

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You see these buildings, and you know at one time there was a thriving, growing Christian

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community there.

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And so when I think about the move of God, I think about that.

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There are people, young men right now all across Appalachia, who are going back to that,

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young men from their communities who are going back to those communities and doing the hard

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work of planting churches in those communities.

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And God is using them in incredible ways.

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Unfortunately, and this is why Tri-State Bible College matters so much, that a lot of times

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what happens is guys leave Appalachia, and they go away to seminary, they go away to

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Bible college, and they don't come back.

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Because the truth of the matter is, the churches aren't large here.

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If the average church in America has 60 people in it, the average church in Appalachia has

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40.

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It's lags behind in so many different ways.

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And so instead of coming back to do that hard work and have to work a job and then be a

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Bivocational Pastor, a lot of them don't come back.

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But God still has His men on the field.

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The fields are still white under harvest.

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It's the laborers that are few, but the laborers are there.

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And so what's happening is these guys are staying in Appalachia.

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God's burdening their hearts for Appalachia.

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And God is blessing their ministries in Appalachia.

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We see churches being planted, and we see churches multiplying in Appalachia.

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And so I would say what's old is new again.

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What God did, He's doing again.

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We just need that equipping mechanism once again.

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Podcasts just like this to hear, hey, God is at work.

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He's at work in Milton.

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He's at work in Huntington.

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He's at work in Barboursville.

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He's at work in Morgantown.

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He's at work in Paintsville.

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On and on we could go.

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He's at work in Ashland.

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I hope with this podcast, to fan that flame.

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Amen.

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Hey, is he at work in Wheelersburg?

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I'm really hoping he's at work in Wheelersburg.

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Is that possible?

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Isn't that where you live?

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That's where I live.

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I don't know.

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Can anything good come from Wheelersburg?

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All right.

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Well, brother, let's talk about Tri-State Bible College's vision, the Appalachian Ministry

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Institute's purpose.

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And then I want to come back a little bit to the history of the church in Appalachia.

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I think it's something that people are not very aware of.

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Even those of us who have studied church history at an academic level, we've studied it through

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the Reformation and then into the modern church and then maybe some of the major modern church

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movements.

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When it comes to Appalachia, no one writes about it.

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What happened here?

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Even though I'll say this, when I was pastoring out in Little Lisbon, Illinois at West Lisbon

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Church, the people in the area knew the history of the church movement and how the Norwegian

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Lutheran movement came over, how the church developed from there.

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They knew about the revival that happened in Norway that led to the pastor coming over

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and starting all the churches in the area and the 44-year history of the on horseback

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going to all the congregation.

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They knew the history.

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But being an Appalachian person here, I don't know the history until talking to you.

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I didn't know the history of how the movement started.

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I want to come back to that, but I want to talk about Tri-State Bible College because

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as you said, I came back here because I feel like it's an essential part of what God is

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doing in our region.

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And we exist to help people fulfill their ministries.

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That was Paul's final command to Timothy with regard to ministry things.

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He told him, Timothy, fulfill your ministry.

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And what that means is to complete what remains.

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We feel like we have some great churches in the area.

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We want Tri-State Bible College to be a kind of a unique community where church leaders

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and pastors from the churches in the area are coming together in one place to offer

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access to a community of biblical scholarship and to help people fulfill their ministries

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and have lives that glorify God.

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So that's what we're about here.

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As we've been talking, we've felt the need for an Appalachian ministry institute as

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an extension of the Bible College.

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And you mentioned this, but why do you think that TSBCs uniquely position the meet that

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need?

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There is no other academic institution that's focused on teaching the Bible and helping

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equip men and women for ministry that's situated in Central Appalachia.

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And what's often happened is young men, young women go away from Appalachia to get educated

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and they never come back.

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What must happen is that Appalachians are equipping Appalachians to do the ministry in Appalachia.

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This matters so much.

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And that's one of the things that I hope we have in our Appalachian ministry institute

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is that we bring people who are currently practicing ministry into our institute that

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we can hear and we can learn from because the truth is ministry is difficult in Appalachia

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and those who are finding it not so difficult and God's blessing, we want to learn from

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them.

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We want to hear from them.

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The history of Appalachia is so much influences and informs us where we are, but that being

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said, old Appalachia is not modern Appalachia.

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In fact, Appalachia has changed more in the 20th century than the rest of its history

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combined.

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And so when we think about Appalachia, we can't just talk about all of the history.

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We have to talk about Appalachia today.

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That history informs us how we got where we are.

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It does help us understand who we are.

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But today we've got to reach this culture.

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And some folks are doing this.

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Some guys are doing some incredible work around Appalachia.

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We just want to bring focus to that and our Bible College is a great place, great way

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to do that.

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One of the outcomes that we've been measuring here at the Bible College, between all of

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our faculty, how many years of ministry experience combined our faculty have?

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It's hundreds of years because our faculty, they're not just academics.

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I mean, they are their scholars in their own right, but they are also pastors.

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They're Christian leaders, Christian workers.

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We've got people at the Huntington City Mission.

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We've got assistant pastors.

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We've got all kinds of people who have just accumulated years and years of ministry experience

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that are teaching our students here.

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And we talked about this as we were dreaming and praying about this ministry, that what

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we want to do for people who are ministering in Appalachia is we want to affirm them that

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this is part of Christ's commission.

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Your ministry is important.

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We want to affirm that.

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When we have our Appalachian Ministry Conference coming up in September, so you all want to

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save the date for that.

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We're looking at a date in September of 2021 for that.

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We want to affirm people who are doing ministry in Appalachia.

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Secondly, we want to encourage them.

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As you said, it can be a tough place to do ministry and to serve Christ.

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So we want to encourage.

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There's a lot we could fight about in Appalachians.

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God knows, love to fight.

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But we want to be a place where people can get genuine encouragement.

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And then finally, we want to equip.

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I mean, that's what a school is, right?

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It's a training place.

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We want to give skills and resources and relationships because relationships with a good network

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of Godly men and women equip us too.

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And so those are our purposes to affirm, encourage and equip.

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It's not the North or the South, and it's not the Midwest either.

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The Appalachian region is without a doubt unique, and it does in fact have its own challenges

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when it comes to reaching her people with the Gospel of Jesus Christ.

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And that's why Rex and Matt are hosting the Level Paths podcast.

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Are you a pastor or maybe you're at a church in the Appalachian region and you're looking

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for more effective ways to minister to the people right where you are?

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You can reach out to Rex and to Matt at Tri-State Bible College by emailing rex.how at tsbc.edu

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or Matt Shamblin at tsbc.edu.

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And if you'd like more information about Tri-State Bible College and the Appalachian

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Ministry Institute, visit tsbc.edu.

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On the next Level Paths podcast, the history of the church in Appalachia.

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Many attempts were made by those mainline denominational churches.

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Basically come in, move into Appalachia and fix what's broke.

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And that system failed almost instantly in Appalachia.

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The Level Paths podcast is an outreach of Tri-State Bible College and the Appalachian

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Ministry Institute.

