Oh, welcome to the Polarize Podcast. I am your host, James. We're back, baby.
We are finishing out our series on Barry Gordy, Larry Snorty, Jerry Bordy.
He is the man, the myth, the legend of Motown.
And this is Barry Gordy's The Last Dragon. His name is just right on the front there.
And this is a polarizing movie within our podcast of polarizing movie discussions.
There's this website called Ron Tomatoes.
Audiences and critics disagree on all of the movies that we talk about,
according to those numbies that we see on that site that correlates to rotten and fresh.
Who knows? We're supposed to. And we're going to talk about it.
This is our series on Barry Gordy.
We did a crossover with our other podcast, The Prod Pod.
And it's been a lot of Motown lately. And we've enjoyed a lot of the sounds.
The visuals have been somewhat of a different story for Mahogany.
The Wiz. But I'm curious to hear what my cohost thinks about this little diddy called The Last Dragon.
It's coming in at a 59 percent for critics and 85 percent for audiences.
I am curious to hear from one of my one of my buddies,
a ever present member of the polarized kingdom, Mr. Brandini.
Yeah, it's me. Breezy Brandini has returned.
I have returned. I, you know, I think the yeah, I would like to say instead of our lives getting busy,
why it's taking so long to record this is because the Wiz was so bad.
Yeah, it sucked the life out of us. We had to recover.
We needed some time away from this after The Wiz because it was a stinker.
Well, we've talked about it ourselves, but there's also
there's also I think we're due for a concert report.
Let's get that concert report concert report.
We need we need some sort of you've made a lot of headway there.
I would like to hear from you first about a little diddy about Coachella.
What do you think the polarized people would would care to know?
Like a little little quick sum up. I know it's hard.
Oh, no, it was really, really fun when with some great people.
Big. Yeah. The you know, something I want to call out.
Rami in particular was fantastic.
And then also big dub on being able to take beers out of the beer garden at Coachella.
First year. Let's go. That's what I'm talking about.
Party. Man. Yeah.
I mean, you're a vet. So, you know, that's you're you're
coming from experience when when that's hot is all that's a big thing.
That could have been someone's first year. Be like, oh, but you're like,
this has been 10 years coming for for me to take the fear.
I will be gone.
You were coming before you were 21 to Coachella.
Yeah, I was coming before I was 21.
I think I think the soundboard might be broken.
And we're going to have to ban our guest from using the soundboard.
I don't know if you have someone for if you can't see it, you know that there's going to be some.
We give him out to him. He's going to just press the soundboard every two seconds.
I don't think there's any settings to bar him from it. But anyways,
shackles, maybe handcuffs.
And then it was it was my birthday recently. And then we did.
We did a double a duble.
You have called things like that before.
Yeah, I mean, it's it's not often that I do a double concert.
And so this is a dope of of concerts. This is a double shot.
So feature. Yeah, double feature.
We did the four tat with the cool visuals. That was so that was amazing.
That was on my actual birthday or something.
Squid pusher, squid pusher, squid billy.
Squid some squid.
And there was all these little balls of light surrounding the whole venue.
And we were just having a great time.
And then we went to Beach Life the next day and it was a millennial heaven.
We had a modest mouse and pixies and Tegan and Sarah and black keys.
And yeah, man felt catered to as a millennial. It was great.
So that was concert report. We had we had to go through it.
Beep beep beep beep beep beep beep. So you feel good about those?
You said what we did, but I had the best birthdays of my life, dude.
It was so much fun.
Well, yeah, well, out of the out of the weekend, just the news here at report, just the news.
Yeah, I know.
You know, none of that opinion.
None of that opinion shit in here.
You know, we're not Fox News or whatever.
Commentate.
Just yeah, just specifically.
What happened? I was there and I and I hear to say that I'm happy because I saw it.
I saw it with my own eyes.
It took place and I was there.
And listen to it with my own ears.
No, I mean, I wanted Montes Mass to be really good.
They are consistently spotty, consistently consistent
and in their quality of seeing them live and unfortunately, but I love that band so much.
And Pixies were fucking awesome.
Pixies had such a great set.
All the songs they picked were were just exactly what I wanted to hear.
And yeah, sounded really good.
And Black Keys surprised me with how much fun I was having that whole set
because I haven't listened to them so long.
And that was they just sounded so good live and brought the energy at the end of the night
when it was a little chilly.
But Fort's at the night before was one of the coolest things ever.
I don't know.
Just it was like it was ambient music.
It was like artistic with all the visual stuff.
And then it was like hard hitting techno as well and other portions.
And that's just all my favorite shit with my favorite people, man.
Thank you so much for coming out.
It was it was the best, especially after your Kurt Keller experience
only a couple of weekends before.
Besides that, should we close the concert report?
How did you feel about Beach Life?
And I felt I felt pretty good about it.
I mean, it was just yeah, I love those Jack and Cokes and a
can those are fun.
You were going to want to.
Yeah, that was a highlight.
Those little those little ditties.
But I really just those out in the world now.
Yeah, probably.
You know, what's crazy is the first time that I saw those was in Europe
when I went on the high school Europe trip and I saw that over over there.
And I was like, why don't we have these in the US?
And then somebody's out because of some rule or whatever.
And so to see that so many years afterwards, I was like, wow, we finally did it.
And it was a cool label, too.
It was like black.
People say we are progressing as a society while
Bruce and the in the Jag and Coke can.
So but no, I yeah, it was Coca-Cola like sponsored to
wasn't like a knockoff or anything.
It was like, I know it was actually.
What's in it like Shasta is just is that does that teach more like Pepsi or Coke?
What is the what is the R.C. Cola R.C. Cola?
Like anything that's in a knockoff is just Pepsi.
Yeah, they're not a knockoff Coke.
What would be well here?
You know what?
Maybe our guest has an opinion on Coca-Cola and they're all
coke substitutes, but definitely they're going to taste more like Pepsi,
probably is my guess.
I don't know if they've got that formula.
And if speaking of formulas, a tried and true formula is the three of us are guess.
Oh, yeah. On this pod.
Absolute formula.
The goat glad to have him back on the pod.
I mean, he needs no introduction, really, but I thought I'd boost him up a little bit.
Danny's back on the pod.
Danny Burge, everyone.
How's it going?
Hey, do well, do well, man.
Welcome back.
Hey, excited to be here.
Happy, happy to be happy, happy, happy with the polar bears with you guys.
Like it's almost like you never left.
Well, you know, we meet again, you know, I think you're back to the salt mine, man.
Once more into the prey, boys.
This is a salty place.
It gets polarizing in here.
It gets very salty.
There's much as salty people in their opinions.
I mean, man, I remember, remember, like some of my first episodes, I got, I got pretty vicious
with like the reviews that we read about certain things.
You would take people to task.
Yeah, there was one.
Oh, yeah.
I was reading reviews and you were getting into reviewing the reviews.
Your news, your other segment.
I've had a drink or two and I'm ready to argue with people that wrote something like long ago.
Aren't even here.
Right.
You're yelling into a void.
Well, is there any other way to do it?
You know, I mean, it's, it's kind of cathartic.
I don't know about you.
I feel great.
Some people meditate.
Others just scream into a void.
Nothing too particular.
I just feel like I'm Gandalf, like going through the records.
I'm just like looking through the texts of old reviews and, uh, in a dark cellar with
in candlelight, but no one knows of their existence or they've been buried away for years.
And I'm just going through and maybe there's some nuggets in there that I'm going to find.
You find that you find reviews that invoke like great emotion.
It's fun from like, if something from like 1988, like fucking that somebody says, like causes me
right now to be like this son of a bitch, then like, that's a, that's a lot of people.
That's a, that's a win.
Like that's a, that's a fine.
And it goes for like Yelp reviews as well.
If you ever get the chance or Google, Google maps reviews, and you just start checking out some
like fast food places in your area and decide, or like, just try to see how long people will
decide to spend their time and writing a review for like a Carl's junior and giving it like,
like a specific score and like a paragraph, like sort of why they get it.
And it's like fascinating to hear about people's experiences.
And you can go as far as like strip clubs and stuff like that.
Just it's pretty, pretty entertaining.
Yeah.
To see just like,
my sauce was not as cheesy as the last time I got,
don't go at this time.
Or yeah, there are complaints about it.
Parking parking is ample.
It's just a friendly guy.
He's like this parking in the rear.
They get my pretzel.
Do you want to check it?
I'll find a Wetzel pretzel review.
Is that what you're curious about?
I got a J and the B review.
I'd love to hear a scathing pretzel indictment.
Pull a bad pretzel review.
Yeah.
This is the closest one to me is a three star out of five with 22 reviews.
Wetzel's pretzels.
I won't say, I don't have to say where it is, but let's see if let's find a bad experience.
One star out of five by Luke.
I wanted to order a plain.
I wanted to order a plain pretzel and ask if they were varnished in real butter.
All of the employees in the back laughed really loud and started to make fun of my question.
I was only asking because I don't eat dairy.
Damn that poor guy.
He just got laughed at by the people working there.
That's so sad.
If you use the word varnish though, I might, I might.
Varnish like that would just catch me on guard.
Yeah. Did you say varnish?
He took it personal when he said like the craziest fucking like his butter on this,
like that, like there's so many other ways to say it, but, but still poor,
poor guy just don't know how to say it.
And then he had, and then he went to yelp.
He's like, man, I'm in a bad mood.
I gotta, you gotta release this.
Let's do one more from Bosco G one star out of five.
I typically order the almond pretzel, but since I was feeling something more salty for lunch,
I wanted to order something else.
First, I ordered cheese, ordered a cheese dog.
There were no hot dogs at all.
And the people working there had no intention of making anymore.
So being forced to pick a pretzel, I ordered the pepperoni pretzel.
There were no pepperoni pretzels.
So finally I got the pretzel with the jalapenos and the pepperoni and got the pizza sauce on the side.
So I opened the pizza sauce and dot, dot, dot.
It was burned to the point that there was a thick layer of black crust overlaying the rest of the pizza sauce.
I had to use a fork to attempt to remove, I had to use a fork to attempt to remove the crusted layer of black,
but other pieces broke off and dove deep into my pizza sauce.
Thank you.
What's those pretzels.
Thank you for your lack of selection and cancer.
Like right.
Whoa.
Wow.
Bosco G.
Son of a bitch.
Bosco.
Oh, this person wrote out a whole, the whole exchange between them and the server.
Like, uh, uh, do you guys want to read this out?
This, um, script that they wrote with their interaction at what's his pretzels.
And then we can absolutely, we can be done with, or Brandon can share.
Uh, do you guys see, do you guys see this screen?
Ooh, I gotta blow this up.
You're all zoom.
Okay.
Yeah.
Is that better?
Yeah.
Okay.
I'll read that.
Is that better? Okay. I'll read the beginning and then you guys do server or DL.
Who's DL?
That must be a Daniel.
I'll be Daniel.
Daniel.
Oh, okay.
I'll be DL.
Danny, you're the server.
Okay.
And I'm going to narrate.
Okay. Ready?
Here we go.
Three stars out of five.
How many of you would go to the simplest places to order food just to avoid the hassle of
waiting in line or to help you to stay decisive about what you're going to eat?
Well, I learned yesterday that sometimes these fly-by deals come with an unexpected twist
and entertainment.
I've always had good experiences coming here, but services have become,
have become more entertaining lately.
After ordering my boba next door, I came here to order an almond pretzel and no one
seemed to know what they were doing.
Scene.
Hello. May I help you?
Yeah. May I have an almond pretzel?
Do you want bits?
No, an almond pretzel.
Oh, I thought you wanted like a bag of bits.
Like these mini pretzels.
Server took the next almond pretzel and stuffed it in a paper bag.
Here's your bagel.
Handing it to me.
Huh?
No, I mean, you're probably do you want any sauce with it?
No.
Are you sure? Yeah, I'm sure.
Can I get a frequent user card with us?
Oh, we know that's me. Sorry. Yeah, sorry.
Can I get a frequent user card with a stamp?
No, we don't do that here.
Strange thinking to myself.
I've always gotten the frequent user card here.
After seeing my reaction, the server came back.
Who's don't do it?
I'm not right here.
Do you see the server?
The server came back.
Yeah, server came back.
It's the other stores.
You'll have to go to outside of Westwood.
Throwing her hands in the air, smiling.
She then turned to her coworker next to her.
Do we give out stamps?
Are you know, those like frequent user cards?
I'm not sure.
Well, we do have a stamp for the cards.
Oh, where are the cards?
They both looked around the register.
Very confused together.
Together.
Both servers.
We don't carry them.
You must go other stores to get it.
All the other ones like us.
You got to go to them.
You got to go somewhere else.
You got to go.
You're the only one.
Yeah, yeah, you got to get out of here.
Can you leave, please?
Okay.
Now, finally confused myself.
I decided to walk away without wanting to learn about how I want how I need to go somewhere else.
I guess next time I should just go somewhere else to grab a bite to eat.
Three stars for the mouthwatering bagel.
I mean, pretzel plus one clap for the unexpected dramatic talents.
Yes.
Scene.
This guy, this guy was like went after that to Starbucks to work on his screenplay, I think.
Well, I mean, he done did it with there.
We just gave him give him a little give him a little love.
It's addicting.
Do we any other reviews?
Brandon, were you looking at some that you wanted to share or shall we move on to the
main course?
Isn't that fun?
I really enjoyed reading that script.
Honestly, like I think I think I totally started to feel.
Yeah, we can do it.
We can do a Jack in the Box review.
We've got a Jack in the Box.
I mean, you had a character I really liked where you were coming at it with like and
yeah, an energy or lack thereof, but purposeful from like a disengaged three star out of five
were the pretzels.
Well, yeah, I've I've I've been on both sides of the counter.
Same.
I'm a sinful cinnamon man.
I mean, I do like those bites to those bites are good.
I can relate.
The bites are good.
Yeah, I typically do the bites.
Yeah, I think he meant bites, but it said bits, bits, little bits.
Yeah.
And I was going to go with that.
That's like some bit.
All right.
Brandon's got some Jack in the Box reviews.
OK, yeah.
So this is the Jack in the Box.
It's right by me.
You ever have a craving for something and sadly it's ruined.
I went here around 10 B.M.
The service is average, but the food was what I came for and it was not fresh at all.
Oh, no.
That must have been devastating at a fast food restaurant.
The burger was most likely made at 2 p.m.
completely dry beef jerky and the bun was even worse.
What did I say for this burger to even end up in my bag?
I promise I was kind and patient.
Why punish me and my money?
It's not my bad, baby.
The combo cost 10 bucks at least make the food fresh.
The only thing fresh was the fries.
I have had to write a review.
I have tried several times at this location, but this is the food that's produced.
This is this is the weight.
This is this JNB standard.
Sad, really, this location could be so much better with some effort.
And that's from Kia.
Well, like the numerous returns coming back and being frustrated.
Can I read a review?
Yes. What do you got?
What do you got?
OK, you got to find polarizing restaurants, polarizing restaurants around us.
Yeah, critics and audiences disagree.
So I wanted to I pulled up a review of this restaurant called Bojangles.
When I lived in North Carolina, it was like a favorite of mine.
OK, and I found a one star review of that.
Gotcha.
Let's do it. Yeah, your turn.
Your turn.
Can't get it right.
Oh, no.
No, no, no.
Have visited stores in Canton and Woodstock, Georgia.
Both have trouble having produce at advertised and getting orders right.
This has been a problem over some six to eight visits.
We like the chicken and so keep trying.
Today at Woodstock, they were out of two sides.
Beans, but no rice, no coleslaw.
We drove up to the road and had a stick for like.
They had everything on the menu.
We won't try again.
Oh, my God.
I bet if I were to pull up that chick for you would find a negative review for them to.
But but honestly, I think that's like honestly, that's OK.
But it was.
OK, but it was the worst ones, but Bojangles is a fit.
And if that's your worst review, then really like sometimes you're out of sight.
Oh, yeah.
And if and if chick fil a is your peak, then it's OK.
Don't worry about those.
Those people.
It's all right.
But you see Bojangles was hangover food like we would go there and in the morning and eat some greasy fried chicken.
It's fast food fried chicken with like you all you get a free sweet tea with like every order,
which was just I want to look at this.
That's a fun name.
I like that.
It's really funny.
I mean, I really was it was it a chain as well.
Yeah, yeah, it was a chain all through like North Carolina, Georgia.
Like, I don't know, probably out of like all the way to Texas.
I saw Bojangles and they had like this thing called Bo Berry biscuits.
They're like blue.
It's like a salty like delicious biscuit, but as blueberries in it and then they drizzle icing.
And we'd get like a dozen of them made by hand.
Arcadian chicken filet biscuit is made with 49 steps.
See, boldly seasoned and baked fresh daily by our certified biscuit makers.
Celebrate Bo's buttermilk biscuit month.
See that with some scratch me.
Bojangles butter a biscuit.
Boom, boom.
Two for five country hand biscuits.
If it's it's it's an alternate to KFC.
It's a little greasier.
It's but it's it's delicious.
There's also like catfish on the menu.
There's a heart shaped Bo Berry biscuits.
Yummy.
Free Bo's chicken sandwich.
When you place your first order on the app.
OK, that's enough.
We counterbalance the negative review with some sweet sweet potato pie there.
Oh, my God.
Yummy, yum, yum, yum.
It's like a hot pocket, but the sweet potato pie filling.
It looks way more interesting than Chick-fil-A to me,
but I know Chick-fil-A over there is better than here.
You ain't getting no peach cobbler at Chick-fil-A.
I love peach cobbler.
Yum, yum, yum.
Alamo.
Yum, yum, yum.
They got dirty rice there.
That's great.
And then you got cage and Pinto's.
Wow.
There's another.
There's a red beans and rice.
There's another chain that's like an East Coast in and out that
like was like the equivalent when I was in North Carolina.
Oh, what's that called?
OK, cook out, cook out.
And like it's it's like it's delicious.
It was my like substitute for it, but they were like kind of like
big handmade like patties and stuff and like just really quality ingredients.
But it was like it was a bigger meatier burger and so wrapped in tin foil.
And like, yeah, it was.
Keeps all the heat in.
Nice.
Cook out was bomb.
Well, but cook out has a lot more going on.
You can also get a quesadilla there.
You can get chili dog, chicken nuggets.
Wow.
Crispy chicken wraps.
Chicken strip meal.
Wrap it, then it's healthy.
Damn, you could get a Coke float.
What I would give to have a Coke float right now.
Oh, yeah, there's shakes of their.
You and your coke.
You just want to mix your coke with everything with Jack.
Would you do a Jack Daniels Coke float?
I don't know.
I think it might be.
Ice cream.
Yeah, you would be too whiskey.
No, I would.
Crazy son of a bitch.
You know what would be better as if it if it was with screwball instead
or something like that, not I'm doing right now.
I'm doing whiskey with not straight Jack.
Ginger ale and raspberry.
It's really good.
Oh, fun.
But it's whiskey with that.
It's that alone looks really good.
It's an excellent summer drink or like, like this.
I believe that I was crushing a fuckload of whiskey.
Ginger's yesterday.
That's a good.
I mean, and.
Yeah, so easy to so smooth.
So it goes down.
So yeah, you can crush.
You know what I like to do when I'm hungry?
I like to direct my feet to the ground.
I like to do that.
When I'm hungry, I like to direct my feet to Daddy Green's pizza.
That's what I like to do.
Wow.
The last.
Drag.
Holy shit.
My mind was blown.
From downtown, there's a pizza place in that movie.
And you don't really get to see the pizza.
One of the guys takes a piece while he's walking out and then kicks the door and breaks it.
But you don't really get to see the pizza.
But what a slogan.
I take that slogan.
I'm trying to think what else you could kind of do with that with like a with like a Jack and Coke.
Like, take a crack and look at this Jack.
No, dang it.
I can't do it.
What's a what's a bet?
What's a food that you guys like?
Come come in.
City next to me.
City.
No, no.
Come on to my city to get my spaghetti.
I'm tired.
That's a lot.
All right.
It's hard.
I had to go to Italian.
Sparky.
My nose is bleeding.
It's because after that transition, he's afraid.
Yeah, it's the blood started to run out of your nose.
I had a head spin from the transition.
It was too too quick and fast.
I didn't I didn't prepare a scribble.
This the the change to light speed.
I didn't prepare a scribble.
The change to light speed.
The light speed back down.
Yeah, we just participated in a rocket launch.
No, we weren't privy to we're like, OK, and rocket launch.
And we're on it.
Where's the safety blanket?
Fucking last dragon, Barry Gordy's last dragon.
Danny, did you have you seen this movie before?
I had like seen bits and pieces and like heard talking about it.
Like this was my first all the way through.
And like I thought I knew what this movie was, but this was my first time.
Like like really get like, oh my God, like what I didn't know.
You know, I lost over it because I kind of it sounded like something I could listen to.
Somebody talk about and not need to see.
And well, just wasn't on my mind.
I was on my radar like like.
Yeah, I think we know it totally.
I just said, yeah, that's funny.
But I mean, like it was entertaining nonetheless.
But I was like, I think I got it.
Like, I don't know how much like I but then like going and seeing it
because like, I mean, I've heard I'm not a fan of Barry Gordy.
So like, like, I don't know.
Oh, like personally.
Well, you don't know him, but he like his character.
Like, you don't like who he is as a man.
OK.
Do you not like but do you not like Motown music?
I do.
You do like Motown music, but just not like I do like.
Well, I mean, he he like robbed a bunch of people out of all their like contracts.
Like he's Barry Gordy like signed a whole bunch of Motown singers for pennies on the dollar
and then had all of their like IP the name of a Motown song.
Well, so like he owned all the records and all of their like residuals and everything.
And that's where he was had the money to fund this movie.
Almost everybody that had worked with him, especially people that he worked with were
a lot of times were fucking children.
Like they weren't even like he was scouting talent so young that in and pushing that talent
that it was working a lot with their parents.
And then when they would become a certain age, like twenty twenty one, eighteen twenty one,
they would want to go out on their own.
And that would that happened with Steve.
I mean, or they want to just do their own thing.
And he was very he would be very stifling in how he viewed what their career should be.
I'm pretty sure he was pretty like strong arm controlling, like almost like almost like a
like a pimp to like he was a music producer, like pimp to fucking unsuspecting,
naive fucking artists that wanted to get out of whatever town they're in.
And he can swoop them up, take their music and send them on their way packing.
But I mean, I just and what do I know?
Like what I don't know, can fill a whole warehouse.
So like I'm not trying to like, you know, I just from from how I look at it, I just saw like,
you know, the the way he got he came up was on the backs of other people in like a very like,
like vicious business type of way.
And like Barry Cutthroat and like, I just so that's where like, I, I always had whenever I knew,
like, I always had that stigma to knowing who Barry Gordy was.
That's where then like, there's a lot like, but what came from whatever made something great,
just the same as like the Canon films.
And you have all those dudes like cocaine stuntmen who made a bunch of fucking wild,
wacky fucking movies.
Yeah. And they're all they're all salesmen.
And for sure, like whatever comes, whatever.
And I mean, I, I think like things, things like these, this needs to be kept in time capsules
and sent into the future and re pulled out of the box every fucking couple years, because like,
the these types of films, like, no matter what you say about them, make you feel good.
Like, yeah, like you can't watch, watch this movie and not smile.
Definitely.
It's like a, it's like a jet ski.
And I think out of out of the three, it's definitely be around this thing.
Yeah.
Going to come through as the most fun and entertaining out of the three, three we've
watched in the series.
And it definitely, definitely for what you feel and might think about Barry Gordy,
I think it has the most of him in it compared to the other ones in like a more of a fun way,
mahogany and everything that was going on with him and Diana Ross for that one is a thing caught
in time. But this is actually like entertaining in a very musically driven way.
Even if they're not, there's some of some people singing songs and everything like that,
but it's very musically driven. And I think that adds so much character to the movie,
but it's also, I think it's even hard for me to fully understand this movie as it is as a product,
because it's hard to put myself in that time when it came out in 1985, when Kung Fu movies
and Bruce Lee were the hottest shit and to suffuse that and combine the, the, the,
those elements with kind of a blaxploitation sort of way of making a movie as well,
along with Motown music and then all the club scene. There's a lot going on and the campy,
the camp value of it, which I absolutely love how, how campy it comes across.
I question how purposeful some of that stuff is. Yeah. Or it's a happy accident. Yeah.
Especially with how, you know, time act delivers lines, man. It's, uh, he's, he's, he's a great,
like physical presence, but man, yeah. Some of these are, are, are people that yeah, just,
I'm sure like comfortable, beautiful people. And then like, he's super fit and can do all the
Kung Fu and everything, but yeah, it's just interesting. Like this is very much like a
comm like a, like a DJ making a movie almost like he's taking, he's taking a lot of culture.
That's very prevalent at the time and mixing it all together and coming out with something that
really hits at that time, but removing it, you do kind of are like outside looking in and the camp
starts to show its face a little bit easier when you're so far removed from it. And you can kind
of look at it from, from few steps. Yeah. Few steps removed. Um, but he's fucking chopping down
arrows at the beginning and I, yeah, so it's so silly, but yeah, but it's well intentioned,
you know, cause it's also the, it comes off as silly because the fact that somebody can do that
is ridiculous, but, um, but that, but that is something that has been seen in, uh,
and have you met every person, you know, like,
I'm not Daniel. Um, no, I haven't met everybody, but, um,
what was he going to say? Um, well, no, like I think, uh, yeah, the intention, the intention
behind this movie is like, everybody's bringing it at least trying to whether, uh, some people are
successful at it and others aren't. And it's trying to, and the other thing it's trying to do is it's
really trying to replicate a Kung Fu movie, a Bruce Lee movie. And that's something that I'm not
as well versed on, but there's a lot of beats of the story that are really like predicated around
just, just how a Bruce Lee movie would operate. Um, so much so that a lot of his movies are shown
in this movie straight up. Yeah. And are like, like ways to move exposition along.
Like collectively, there's about three to four minutes of Bruce Lee film. And then it's like,
at least like it's for, it's for play at one time. I was just about to say that how insane is that?
It's right. Because yeah, time Mac is not Leroy green. Um, is not right.
Is that a thing? Yeah. Wow. But yeah, Leroy green junior. Yeah. Whatever. But yeah, like Bruce
Leroy green. Can I suppose, can I suppose the theory of how like this script was written is,
I don't think like the beautiful thing about this is I think he didn't immediately after watching a
Bruce Lee movie kids like this. Let's do one of these picture. I need money, money, dollars.
Movie though was like him just saying like, I'm going to have these songs in a movie. And then
he just built it all out of that. I don't know. Speaking of which, I don't, I don't know what
came first, the chicken or the egg, no, the song or the movie. Do you guys know for certain?
What if, what if this whole movie was just built off of the construct of a playlist?
Like what if he was just like, I have to make this whole thing make sense with these songs.
And then that's how very gordy. Yeah. I feel well, that's my theory of like what he did.
Because the structure is just to connect to this song and this. So like it's all just superfluous
and sure. Just go, that's possible because he did put effort into this movie in a big bad way.
And you see everybody, everybody is showing up and doing what their job is. And like the costumes
are fucking even like fucking pretty, pretty radical. Like the one that's like a football
gear shoulder pad thing, but it's like covered in black and has like, it looks oriental and so sick.
He's a different one. Every time you see him, there's like 10 of those different football
fucking like like badass pirate captain fucking outfits of his. Like,
Joe Nuff, we haven't mentioned him yet on this, but yeah, I mean, to go back to like whether it was
like written the music first or the yeah, like I was going to say that you mentioned the cannon
guys and the and Barry Gordy making a movie makes me think of that of like it strikes me that he
would want the overall, like, let's get the poster, let's get the people, let's get the overall look
and feel and the structure outward, outward in not like inward out. Like he wants the whole, the
that figured out and then he can work on like the actual nitty gritty of it. But I do think there,
I feel like there was scripts written first because there's, and I want to show samples of
maybe some songs, but the lyricism of them, of the songs are, it might as well be a musical,
even if they're not singing, because they're literally talking about what's taking place
on screen and telling you like what's going on. Like you are the last dragon.
It's almost like that. They're like diagenic in the, in the pitch meeting. He's like, oh,
it sounds like this. I was just waiting for it to be like, pick up a cup of coffee and be like,
you are drinking coffee. Now you take one sip, two sip, three sip. Now you're walking out of the
kitchen. And like, I think it was a little bit more of this and a little less of this, you know,
like I think Barry Gordy, I don't think Barry Gordy was a drug man. I get the sense he didn't do drugs.
Maybe he drank a lot. He might've been, he could have been a big drinker, but he never wanted that
to be like part of the messaging in his music. And he was upset when, oh, was he anti drugs? I don't
know. He was kind of a prude. I feel like at least, or at least at least with like how things were
within Motown, even if maybe he did imbibe on some of those things, I'm not entirely certain if he
would even share that he never wanted that to be apparent or wanted that to be like on the, on the
to be his public image, like, because it affects Motown affects everything. It's everything's gotta
be, it was just didn't want people to know about what he was up to. Like, because Barry Gordy, he
was like, he probably partied like watching this movie. I'm like, oh, for sure. But it's like
business and pleasure are separate. And at a certain extent, he wanted to keep the business
business and Marvin Gaye had come to them about, you know, doing what's going on. And he's like,
no, I don't, I'm not feeling it. We don't have, it's going to, well, he was like saying we're
going to risk making money because you want to sing about like political shit, like with what
arguably the one of the best records of all time, what's going on. And then, you know, he comes
around after the fact, but he was, and then like another one, like cloud nine by the temptations,
he was against when everybody in the, you know, the meeting of the quality control meeting was
like, we all love that record. And he's like, nah, it's a drug record. And they're like, no,
it's not. And he's like, no, I still think it is. And everyone disagreed with them. And even
CV wonder to see if you wanted to do the same thing. And all this, like when they were, they all turned
21, they're like, I want to actually do what I want to do. I don't want to be a cookie cutter,
a little Motown sort of thing. And they went, went their own way and made intervisions and became,
you know, fucking songs in the key life and she, you know, and does what he wants to do, but
he definitely had an influence on making them stars from, you know, every part, every facet
of their life. And you know, he knew how to fuel somebody with talent to like, um, put their best
out there. And I mean, as, as a producer and like what, like the, the content that he put out was
fucking spectacular, but as far as music goes and stuff, like he'd do everything technical to do to
get somebody where they needed to go. Uh, but he took advantage of that like quite a bit, but well,
he lit, he, I mean, he said that he worked in the car factory and he wanted to treat people like
cars essentially, and put them through the star making factory and yeah, no straight up. And then
he, and he said that was like a life lesson to him. Like, I can't treat people like cars. It's like,
yeah, you know, but I mean, that's, that's, that's placing humans as commodities or something.
That's putting dollar signs on a person, you know, which was a learning lesson for him. Yeah. I mean,
that's basically saying I'm a fucking sociopath, like to some degree, like I think, I like, I think
like to some degree, not that sans, I wouldn't want my boss to say that. That's all I'm saying.
Like, if I was working for a company and my boss said that I'd be like, you know, check, please.
Like, right, right. Oh, he rubbed a lot of people the wrong way. And I'm sure a lot of in our producer
podcasts we have and everything, I think they're all control freaks, the same with like directors
or anything that kind of takes a little bit of, you kind of have to have like a little bit of a
screw loose or something, but also it's amazing when someone is able to enact their vision. And
then it's on top of that, when people come to work for them, that they give their best because they
know who that person is. And I think that goes a long way too. When, so when Barry Gordy got such a
status, when people would come to him and be like, Oh, I'm working for a Barry Gordy. Oh, I'm, I got
to really, really pump it to get my hit or whatever. And when people are coming to David Ventures,
I don't know, or Scorsese, if he makes it, they'd be like, Oh, fucking Wes Anderson's doing a movie.
Oh, I'll take a pay cut. I don't care. I don't give a shit. I'll do a couple of scenes in a Wes
Anderson movie. And to carry that, I think is pretty cool with this one. It is kind of like, yeah,
there's no real recognizable people, but there's recognizable voices in the songs. You know, there's
a Stevie Wonder song that I'm forgetting the name of it, but it's, it's a, that one's great. I'll pull
it up right, right now. Yeah. And if we want to listen to any music, but, you know, that's, that's
for the production value of this movie is like fucking, you know, that's like, it's strongest
quality, right? Is what we would say. Yeah. This movie goes balls to the wall. Like this movie,
it's fun. Like, like it's a fun movie. What it wants to do. It fucking does. Like it absolutely
does. Like it, it wants to show you a Kung Fu, a gang of people that, that, that needs to learn
a lesson by, by this man. And then also they're going to do it through dance and music. Yeah.
He's, you know, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a war. He's a silent warrior and he's going through
his life and then he's confronted by a bully. And then that bully like hunt is like the best
show gun and Harlem or whatever. And then he has, and then he wrongs his family and has to take
revenge against them. All that is clean works. Well, the thing that doesn't make any fucking
sense in this movie is Eddie Arcadian. That stuff is my least favorite part of this movie. There's
a second villain in this movie and his name is Eddie Arcadian and he makes no fucking sense. Like
his whole goal and everything is like, if I can try to try to explain it, like, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I think I got it, but I'm, yeah, he's like a video. He's a video game King. And because there's a
line when he's talking to, he's trying to get, uh, what's her face vanity on. She, he wants to like
sign her or works together. He's got the best club or it's really big. It's that big. Like, I don't
even sure if I can really explain what he wants. He just thinks that them together equals success.
And he's got this other, uh, person that he wants to push as well. It was just like, obviously like
God awful and doing like a B 52 is like, uh, Devo sort of music and then he lapper Cindy
Lopper sort of thing. Yeah. Um, but he says the line, she's a video rock queen, but I, Eddie
Arcadian and the video game King. So us, so them together some, so he like tries to like kidnap her.
Yeah. His strategy, like he sends thugs to pick her up as she's walking home and throw in a car.
And then our guy, the last dragon time act kicks all their asses, drops his little medallion thing
and she picks it up. And then that's their kind of meat queue. And that, you know, the movie goes on
its way. Like it's pretty predictable in a lot of ways. The thing that isn't is Eddie Arcadian
and piranhas in that club. I mean, that club is pretty interesting, but, um, what do you guys,
Hey, how do you guys feel about Eddie Arcadian? The club? I just feel like this might be like,
like another villain that is just confusing in a lot of ways, but what's the name of the club?
It's the seventh heaven. Is that what? Oh my God. And it is it a club because it just seems more so
like a production studio, like a, uh, I, it was so weird thinking of that place as a club, right?
Cause didn't it seem like there was like work being done there? It had like, she was cutting a music
video. Yeah. Cause he had his office. That was a big fucking office. And then he was like, it seemed
like he was so busy and yeah, and piranhas. And he's like trying to get all his, but he never
really would explain his plan. He's just like, she's going to be the best thing. And he's got
this boxer who's a bodyguard and he's like, Hey, I thought you said I was going to make it big. And
he's like, you kept fucking up. And so now you're just my bodyguard. Uh, and then you mentioned
in that club, what's that? Oh, no, no, no. Oh, just the, the DJ tower was so intense.
It was like a spaceship. It looked like Daft punks, like a pyramid a little bit. Like that was his
shit. Yeah. That's what I was like, you know, I'm not, I don't necessarily like agree with what
Eddie Arcadians does or says great name, but, but I like the way name. Right. Honestly, like if I could,
if I could make heads or tails of that space, it was such a set, like a TV show set. It was
you only saw one angle. You never saw the other side because it was such a set.
Yeah. Right. This guy does like, this guy does it all figured out. Like he's got a lot of shit
going on. Like honestly, like why is this guy troubling himself? Like any shit. Oh my God. Yes.
What are you worried about that? You've got a piranha tank. You should be like dealing with
bigger things. Like this is really beneath you, man. Well, you're right. Cause there,
there wasn't any issue with his business, right? Like, well, so was the success of these,
these pop stars, was it really just for more power or did he need to do that in some capacity?
Like in the way that it was propelled was so confusing. Cause he was like watching it,
watching a video of her and then just saying how much like he needed her. And,
but then how that combined with his other starlet that he had in mind just never really added up of
like, Oh, so now you want to know why, why would you want another one? If you have her right here
and you believe in her so much, like, why are you getting another person? Like, shouldn't she be your,
your, I don't know, he just was trying to like gather more, but I don't think she was really
breaking. I think they had been trying a while and there was just nothing, nothing was happening with
her. But this, like the stakes, like there, he has, he, there's nothing pressing on him. And that's
always nice with a villain when there's like an even higher up, like a, like a, whatever, a fucking
Greece, see city as or what our Palpatine or some shit where it's just kind of like,
right. Darth Vader is just kind of like, fuck man. Like Palpatine's really grinding my gears.
Today's really on my ass about getting, getting this shit done. And it's kind of funny to think
about Darth Vader having to like, you know, like, uh, I gotta fill out those TPS reports. Fuck
Palpatine's going to get on my ass. It's the day to day. Like it's, it's a real bit,
so she'll like, can't wait till Friday. There's a higher up. Cause like if you didn't want show
enough, you wanted show enough and Arcadian, you could have had their combination happen earlier,
but it happened at the twilight of the climactic, like third act or whatever of like,
Oh, he's like taking auditions for fucking tough guys. And it showed up. It was like,
I'm the biggest tough guy. And then it was just kind of like, okay, you're hired. Okay. Now they're
together. Like, ah, man, if, if that would have been earlier, maybe there would have been some,
some, I thought honestly, that's one of them. Maybe it's hard to complain about certain things
in this movie because laughing at it's really fun and with it, so it's really hard to say you
didn't like it. You're like, it's not what I would do, but I like the ugly parts too. I like the,
the weird, funny stuff where, yeah, we're just going to like sit and watch the music video for
rhythm of the night by debarge for, you know, fucking five minutes. Cause like vanity is just
like, let's listen to the barge and we're like, yeah, that song is great. Can we watch a Bruce Lee
movie after. Hey man, I just happened to own the rights to rhythm of the night. So put it in the
movie. Like, like I can do this. So why not? Like, like there's some moves. That song felt like,
like some reps there. Right. Such a good one. It's a bang. It's a banger, but it had, it's bigger.
It can't, it can't fucking out of nowhere. certified hood classic. Everything else is like,
you know, like you said, like everything's like a song that's kind of like very specific to the
moment. Yes. All the songs that are for this movie are like talking about the movie mashup of like,
it's an amalgam of them. Amalgam. Amalgamation. That's a tough one. That's like an enemy or
something. Let's see an enemy or some shit. Amalgam is amalgamation. Amalgamism amalgamation.
Think amalgamism. So, okay. Good. Filca. Filca fish. Sim stimulants. See,
the arsonists had oddly shaped. We should do ASMR of hard to pronounce words, but that would
probably piss people off if we can pronounce it. So close. It would be very relaxing. Yeah. Just
stumbling through words. You know what? Leave us, leave us comments. Let us know if you want to,
like a small spin off podcast of the three of us doing just noises with our voices. Noises with
our voices. Noises with our voices. ASMR by three friends that make voices with their mouths.
Well, actually the noises is not something. Scrap it. Shut it down. I'm going to scan through the
song a little bit. I'd like to get to the chorus. There's one for. Yeah. I mean, if we can.
The barge. So this, there's so much. This is just the beginning. It's very,
yeah. It's okay. So that's the first, that's like the opening when he's training.
Seventh heaven. This is the club. This is where vanity is performing.
And this is kind of like the one song where there's like someone actually like performing
singing the music. Yeah. And this, this, it sounds like a lot of the, a lot of the sound too.
This, this one song, I forget exactly the placing of it, but when it starts playing,
someone's like, what's that? And then some guy goes fire.
And I was like, that's fucking sick. And then it turns out the song's called fire,
but I love the idea of like, what is this? And someone just looks slow, like fire.
Fire. That's how you start a song. That's.
It's a great soundtrack. I mean, and when we were doing our producer, producer podcast,
I'm very glad that we had a producer. I'm very glad that we had a producer.
When we were doing our producer, producer podcast, I'm very Gordy. Like I found myself
kind of going back to this album every now and then and having, having some fun with it.
What's upset stomach.
That's the really good. That's the Stevie wonder when I think it's,
I feel like it might just be on this soundtrack. I don't know if it's on,
but that speaks to maybe not my full knowledge of Stevie wonders. He's done so much.
Dude, the titles of these tracks are insane.
I know upset stomach is such a weird name for a thread.
But it's got an upset.
It's a fun song.
Peeping Tom and inside.
Peeping Tom one is not my favorite.
Like he's singing about like I'm your peeping Tom. It's like, oh bro.
To have those finish it out, it's pretty burdensome. Like, yeah,
inside you is not a good closer after peeping Tom.
The first time on a Ferris wheel is kind of how it ends.
Like the Smokey Robinson one is like really like a romantic way.
This one's good.
Would you? Yeah, this song's dumb.
Would you say this movie is kind of horny, though?
Absolutely.
Yeah.
But like repressed, but there's a repressed.
It's like very much so because he's the time has such a virgin. He has no.
Oh, yeah, he is so sexually inept and the entity is this like, you know,
yeah, much more gregarious, much more.
I don't believe it's his virginity.
His power is like Samson.
That's the glow.
Right.
I don't know, because he only gets the glow after.
After the Bruce Lee foreplay.
And then that's how that's how he learns because he's like, show me your moves.
Show.
No.
Show me. Show me your moves.
And then she like brings him to the club and then she's got Bruce Lee on the screen.
On the screen in the club.
Because they just got to get the most out of that separate.
They got to get the most out of their they made the club.
And then it was and then he's like, oh, OK, I'll do my Mac from.
That's always something Philadelphia dances and oh, OK, I get it.
And then it like gets him going, man.
It gets him fucking going as a as a fascinating scene.
And he makes all those like Bruce Lee noises and everything, too.
And he kind of acts like he can't speak English well, which is very confusing to me.
Because he's like speaking like Bruce Lee as well.
And it's like you lived here all your life, haven't you?
Like you he's like walking around the world like it's a brand new.
Like he doesn't understand.
And I know you're a virgin, but like.
You've you've been around the world and then his little his little brother.
And yeah, let's talk about his little brother.
He's like, yeah, yeah, because I really think I think that's very kids.
Yeah, I think Barry Gordy like looked at the little brother and he's like,
that's that's going to be like that's who I was as a kid.
Because he's constantly just like on like trying to find like a new business opportunity.
Yeah, he's working the streets.
Fuck in a hustler like.
Ready to go, man.
Like, you know, give that give that kid an angle and he'll run all day like.
Money's out there.
You just got to go get it.
Papers out there, Brandon.
I could totally picture him being like a motivational speaker and just getting like.
Oh, I never pay for tickets.
I never pay for tickets.
Here's how you never pay for tickets.
They pay for tickets and it's a presentation.
And his little little like rat fuck.
Friends are so funny.
They're just running around.
The guy is just like tripping over stuff.
He's like, oh, shit.
It's so funny.
And they're all they're like they are so well spoken.
And meanwhile, like, is like trying to figure out his way around the English language somehow.
And then they're and they're just like he's just a man out of time and space.
Yeah, they're speaking like he's an alien man.
They're just like, hey, man, you're never going to get that girl.
He's like, believe me, man, I got to wrapped around my finger.
And you just wait.
And it's like, what are you talking about?
These kids.
And he's so bad that he doesn't get he doesn't get to get with vanity.
This eight year old kid is trying to court like a grown lady.
Like it's it's there's a lot of back and forth where they're like
part of extras in the music videos or whatever.
Right.
Am I misremembering that where like there's a lot of them being like in the crowd watching
vanity perform and then there's just this kind of unspoken.
They're trying to they're trying to get the the win, the competition to like have a date
with her or whatever.
There's like this competition where it's like you can like go on a date and he's just like
and then it's full locked in like I'm going to do that.
And then time I find out and he's like she had she has my bracelet.
I must get it back from her.
And and so or his like little like medallion thing, which ends up just being I thought
that was funny is just like, oh, that's just a belt.
And here's your secret answer.
Nothing.
It's such a classic, such a classic Kung Fu thing.
I love it.
That's what comes.
That's what happens in Kung Fu Panda.
It's great.
Dustin Hoffman as like as the little critter.
I forget what kind of animal is.
Look, is it?
No, that's a nice.
That's like the guy from the Big Trouble Little China is the is the geese.
Dustin Hoffman's like, oh, that's right.
The seafood.
See, yeah, like that turtle.
Isn't it great, though, that these movies like I mean, the the fun thing about this
movie is it doesn't make you think at all because everything is just telling you everything
on Front Street or it's a montage where it I mean, a lot of the plot is also just explained
by just editing and cuts back and forth.
And I'll say that, like, you know, this movie is edited very well.
Yeah, like a music video kind of.
Yeah.
Well, well, the whole thing, because it's like it tells a lot of stories.
It cranks along.
Yeah.
It's it doesn't.
He yeah, but he he flashes between different things happening here and here.
So like then it's plot devices that move shit along.
And so then he doesn't have to give them to do much.
And then these people just I mean, he got a lot out of filming and getting getting the
right shots and then get and then these people when they when they turn the camera on, all
of them.
I mean, I'd like to see the whole script to this movie because like, I wonder if there's
anything that like people were just like like where it was too complicated for somebody
and then like it just kind of turned into something else.
I know.
Yeah.
So I read that a couple of people were interested in the role of Leroy.
There was Lawrence Fishburne and I think Denzel Washington.
And it just.
Whoa.
Old. Those are two amazing movies that I think now we make them now and use that like.
It's kind of a bummer to think about because the movie would be like even better, you know,
like so much of the problem I have with this movie is that Leroy Green is a wet blanket,
you know, and an annoying person out of time who's totally uninteresting.
Like, yes, yes.
In a nonsensical way, it doesn't make sense why he would be.
It's one thing if you really like those movies and you want to be like Bruce Lee, but he's
taking it to an element to an extent where it's kind of like troublesome.
Like he's he's going through trauma like in these coping or in some sort of way.
Something happened to him and he's he has to like be this way now.
Or he's on the spectrum and like, I like.
Oh, I had considered that as well.
Maybe he's an autistic kung fu master.
Like, and like then I did not consider this.
Oh, my God. Wow.
That does make sense.
I don't think that's what they're going for, but I had considered that as like
a reading of it for sure.
Yes, he's a simple man.
He's just he's like a simple.
He's a simple, honest, good hearted man.
And it's just funny, like how his younger brother is like, you're fucking weird.
That's all he does.
He doesn't tell him like, oh, you know what happened when you were younger and all.
He's just like, you're fucking weird.
And this is a bunch of racist stuff.
And he calls him a bunch of like racist names and shit.
Yeah, man, like that.
There's there's a lot of like approaches in this movie that kind of like are jarring.
It's it's it's it.
I think that you're right with like how they could.
It's an impractical hero and stuff.
And like, that's kind of what they're going for.
But where you were saying, it's the impractical.
But well, when you're saying he's a wet blanket, I mean, I'd say so is.
So was Luke Skywalker and shit like that.
I think that there is something to making your hero like a wimp to some degree
in a lot of movies.
And maybe that's what they were doing here.
But then they didn't.
It's just not street smart at all.
But he didn't stop.
There wasn't growth, though.
It's one thing if you start not street smart and then you like there's like there's a growth
and like they're more savvy at the end.
There's he's so flat.
He's a virgin Bruce Lee impersonator.
Like that's there's nothing really dynamic about and like reasoning to why he would be
like that besides just like he that's all he likes.
That's what he really likes.
That's all you're going to get out of this guy.
Yeah.
Can I read some of the lyrics to the last dragon song?
He is with emphasis.
Take life one day at a time.
That's what a wise man said to me.
He said life and all its complexity is the ultimate test for you and me.
When you walk, holding your head up high for the masters watching you from the sky.
I know not what trouble lies ahead before you fight.
Use your head.
It's time to leave my nest where you were born.
The journey you must make alone.
There's a deep power inside of you and inner strength you'll find in time of need.
Like the seasons, love will come and go.
If it's right, you'll automatically know the world of mystery exists only in your head.
When you become one with yourself, the wall will fall.
The journey now before you is the final test.
This is where it gets extra literal.
The wall will fall.
The journey now the wall will fall.
The journey the wall will fall.
The wall will fall.
The journey now before you is the final test.
You've learned your lesson well.
I can teach you no more.
There's a power deep inside you and inner strength you'll find in time of need.
The glow.
And then it just repeats.
You are the last dragon.
You possess the power of the glow.
And then does that like 10 times.
And then that's like the final battle where they get the glow, where he gets the glow.
They just like light up.
Who does it?
It's gonna dunked and he's just.
Who's the one?
It's not Ricky Martin.
Where is it like?
It's not is it?
Is it Ricky Iglesias or who does it?
Where he does like the wet like.
His hair goes back.
It's all wet.
Oh shit.
Yeah, yeah.
And then he's the last dragon.
He possesses the power of the glow.
You know about the last dragon.
Dude, the glow effects were sick.
That was awesome.
I love that.
That was fucking sweet.
Yeah, like I'm cool with that.
Like let's let's just go back to that.
Like we should have had more anything.
I know right.
Have you guys realized there's a last there's something in the works for a last dragon like
I saw like something about like an animated series or something like that.
They're like trying to like bring it back and stuff and like yeah, I mean.
If you're going to take this like mythos and then do something else from it like what you're going to need to do is fix the the
how far Arcadian shit because that shit was not that wasn't good for me.
How fun would it be to like yeah, no Arcadian constructs of a movie really like thoughtfully out like you're going to build like a whole mythos.
Do it and make like a series.
I just imagine like an adult swim cartoon or something maybe like an adult swim cartoon if it's in the right hands could be like kind of funny and
can be in like a fun fun way like Major Lazer or fucking like like a lab 2021 or something.
Yeah, Bill Hader played Arcadian.
Now we're talking.
I was thinking Chris Parnell.
The dude from Anchorman, the whammy guy.
Oh yeah, not Chad.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that guy looks I think it was David Keckner.
He does. You're right.
David, you're right.
Yeah, I could.
But taller man.
I love his goon to like the big the big guy and stuff.
He's a dumb and dumber does the thing.
I know he's good.
That's right.
Amazing.
The poison I was going to go through a bunch of chains on some of my notes before I do some reviews and and kind of.
Yeah, move on.
Let's see here.
The movie fight that was that was pretty cool.
William H. Macy is in this movie for a hot second.
I thought he was going to come back, but he just never comes back.
No, because he's not known at the time.
Jacket.
Yeah, he's just like, hey, yeah, he's like this guy, Eddie Arcadian.
He really wants to meet you.
She's like, no, I don't want.
He's like, come on.
He's a big deal.
I'm William H. Macy.
I will be too.
I'm working on my William H. Macy.
I'm working on it.
One point, Arcadian says, I think, fix your face to like his his lady.
Fix your face.
He's shown off, says you when he goes to storm him in the dojo, he's like, kiss my converse.
I thought that was some of these like lines were just delivered and was such like kiss my converse.
Hothead needs cool water.
And then he like dips, does a little dip in the prom.
A thing, man, Eddie Arcadian should have no one went out by the piranhas.
He does like a little fucking dip and gets a little scratch.
And then they set up piranhas and nobody dies by piranhas.
Right.
What the fuck?
Like the bodyguard doesn't write.
I'm just looking and didn't deliver, man.
Like I was.
It is horseshit.
Why do we even have piranhas?
Yeah.
Insane.
Just like, oh, yeah, I just got fucking piranhas and.
And you're going to have like the magic of the
light, the power and all this stuff.
It's like have some fucking piranhas.
Eat somebody like that's truly a check off scan situation.
Check out the run in.
Didn't check off.
How easy is it to like pull a leg out with a bone sticking out?
Do that one star.
I was very disappointed with the product shown up to Daddy Green's pizza and to to find him and
he destroys all of the tables in a very like Dewey Cox, like walk hard with saints.
So he just like, oh, fuck your tables and just like goes after every table and destroys everyone.
And then he sees the jukebox and it's playing.
It's playing.
I think it's playing the song from the like annoying girl that Eddie Arcadian has.
And he's like, what's that?
And he yells at the jukebox, shut up, bitch.
And he calls the jukebox a bitch.
And we're here for it.
Yeah, that was funny.
I actually can really relate.
Honestly, the most shit I thought this was going to happen.
I did not expect that response.
No, for real.
Like, I think the meanest I am is do things that don't like I yell it like, especially if I'm playing pool and a ball doesn't go where I want it to go.
You're like, shut up, bitch.
Yeah, bitch, shut the fuck up.
Wow.
And then me and Brandon are like, show enough, show enough.
Show enough.
Really interesting choice that he has men and women in his gang.
I thought that was kind of interesting.
Yeah. And then he like use them to like kind of like tease Tiamac at first.
And then he like was about to punch.
And then the guys came in and look, oh, you're going to punch him.
I went and I was like super fucked up.
Way to like tease somebody.
The guy who played Cheyenne was incredible.
He's MVP of the movie.
He fucking stole the whole show.
Can I also send an MVP to the friend, the like subordinate guy that's like in his dojo?
He's pretty funny. Yeah, he's pretty funny.
He's pretty a lot.
I thought he was, yeah, I don't know.
He's just doing God's work because he got fucking a sequoia tree like as your, as your scene partner.
So you're just like, I got to like, he's like, yeah, I guess I got to act opposite a ham sandwich.
Hmm. Let's see here.
Him and the eight year old kid are in the same boat.
Yeah. Personality, for sure.
Whatever happens with this, if you don't do this, the whole thing falls.
Like, yeah, it's a house of cards in a way because it's like, yeah, you have people carrying people.
Having him in the scene with like that girl where he was like,
that you have people that are soaking up the scene though.
And you have a lot going on introduced to you in a very quick and efficient manner to some degree.
I mean, his story is very simple.
It's very stereotypical.
Yeah.
The thing that makes it feel so campy though is like there's there's not a lot of like syntax.
They don't, they don't try to like, play coy at all.
It's just, everything is right on front street.
And it's very like it's the bad guys, the villains showing off and the Arcadian are the most over the top bad people I've seen in my life.
But also they're the only they're bad.
But also there's no, no real villain.
Like in a movie.
That like feels real.
They have all of the reasons and the things that he's going to do.
And like everybody talks with like what they're thinking
or what they're going to do versus like,
you know, letting the audience figure it out.
And yeah, but that's what makes this movie easy to watch and so digestible.
He doesn't have to say what he's doing because he's just acting bad.
He's just like, I'm going to act really bad and be an asshole, like just how I behave.
And that's just going to come across so that I don't even have to really do any bad things.
I just am. I just act bad.
But he does fucking kidnap vanity multiple times.
And if I was to recast him, I do Nicholas Cage.
I think for who? For Eddie Arcadia.
For Eddie Arcadia. Yeah.
Yeah, man. Who would you do for show enough?
Nobody, dude. He's perfect.
Oh, you're talking about right now.
Yeah, I just yeah. Buster Rimes. That's a good one.
Buster Rimes. Yeah, for sure.
Buster Rimes like and if Dave Chappelle was down, that'd be cool.
That's actually perfect.
I think you like that reminds me like when he did the in half age when he's
once the the the rap the rap artist is not like fucking.
Yeah, he could do that.
Rick James Ludacris.
There's this part there's this part where Eddie Arcadian and his lady
are arguing where she where he like dresses her down and then he comes.
She comes back at him and she says like, you're just like
it's kind of funny in exchange, but she like is insulting him.
And then and then at the end of it, she's like with dreams of ruin.
The world is how she says it.
And I was like, are you trying to say ruling the world?
Are you trying to say ruining the world?
Are you trying to say Rue Ing?
Either way, don't fuck with that bitch.
She said with dreams of ruin, the world and they just didn't do it.
Do another take on like I was going to say, yeah.
Oh yeah. The fact that they didn't know another take.
Well, this movie was a pretty quick film, right?
It was only 40 something days.
Oh, when they how long I don't know how long it took to shoot.
I'm not sure how long it took to shoot.
I'd be kind of scared.
But I mean, that's a lot of production to get done in a very quick time.
This this movie was a critical failure.
Obviously, we're going to talk about it.
We're also going to get into people that, you know,
yeah, critically pan this and what they think about it.
But yeah, this movie.
So but a box office success making 33 million against a budget of 10 million
considered a cult hit.
And then the amount of time that it took to this shot in 44 days.
44 days. Well, yeah, that speaks to Barry Gordy
being very purposeful of like what he wanted.
And I think that flow of just going with it left some of like some pockmarks
or some things that weren't like perfect.
And that's kind of the charming part about it is like those kind of rough
around the edges sort of things.
But I'd be happy to move on to some critic reviews if you if you guys want to carry
on to there to remind everyone it was a 59 percent by critics.
Let's start with Janet Maslin from New York Times.
She says it is crammed with kung fu singing, rapping, dancing
and video art and no moment goes by without at least three of these things
transpiring simultaneously.
That's a little blurb on Rotten Tomatoes.
We'll do a couple more from Roger Ebert.
It's so entertaining.
He gave it a two and a half out of four.
It's not bad.
It's so entertaining that I could almost recommend it
if it weren't for an idiotic subplot about a gangster and his girlfriend.
A diversion that brings the movie to a dead hall every eight or nine
minutes. Put them in a body bag.
From Trevor Johnson, Time Out, a.k.a.
Barry Gordy's Last Dragon and a sure sign that somewhere along the way,
the man from Hitsville, USA, lost it badly.
For let's do these are some interesting.
Let's do from Narender Flora from Radio Times.
Two out of five Michael Schultz tries hard, but can't quite manage to tie
the varied elements of action, romance, comedy and musical video together,
though as entertainment, this is engaging enough.
David Nusser, Real Film Reviews
has been saddled with an often egregiously over the top field
that slowly but surely invalidates its few positive elements.
Give it a one out of four.
We'll do one more from Akron Beacon Journal,
Tony Mastrona Mastrona Mastroni Akron Beacon Journal.
This is on the critics section of Rotten Tomatoes.
I'm just letting everyone know these are like they may sound weird,
but they cater into all the scores that we're talking about.
So we should read the obscure ones, too, because they cater as much to that score.
They equal as much as that score as any New York Times review.
Anyone anyone else? They equal the same amount.
So they get as much airplay here.
Writing letters to us.
Talking to us about it. I've never heard of Akron Beacon Journal.
Tony Mastroni says the last dragon tries to do a great many things
and does none of them well.
Oh, Pupi, do you know some people?
Some people don't like that fun.
Like I will.
It's probably because he lives in Akron, whatever.
Damn shots fired for Akron people.
Take it up with Brandini.
Well, fucking going to come for you, bro.
If you're bored, you're boring.
I said Akron, whatever. So I don't know.
It's a different.
It doesn't fully. Yeah.
You don't know what you're not talking about.
To give a little taste of how the audience feels on Amazon Prime.
The reviews are there's 10,678 reviews by the audience.
88% of them are five stars.
People fucking like this movie.
Hell yeah.
85% on Rotten Tomatoes from Tyra Lacey titled Bring Back the Classics.
They say great movie from my childhood and I enjoy fully.
Glad to finally find the DVD.
Glad you found that DVD.
Yeah, you got to find that.
Got to find that DVD.
I was in the last place you look.
Yeah, could you imagine if it was in the first place you looked
and you were just looking just for the element?
Keep looking.
Maybe you'll find two.
I just enjoy looking.
You never know what happens next.
From Astro Dancer, five stars,
title charming summer fun movie.
It's kind of long, but I'll find a little snippet here.
This is a magical film that might appeal to all audiences,
if not for some foul language and violence of the climactic fight scene.
And yes, the film is a bit cheesy, but the music, the comedic gems here
and there and the martial arts scenes make it all fun
no matter how many times you watch it.
Yeah. Yeah.
I mean, this is I think all of us feel like this is a rewatchable movie.
Yeah, right. Definitely.
Just through the Eddie Arcadians.
Yeah, just edit that out.
Anytime that. Yeah. Unnecessary.
I want to hard copy of this. Like I think that's.
Get this man a hard copy.
Give me a hard copy. You got to find that DVD.
I'll do a couple more from you near broom.
Five stars titled best movie ever.
My favorite movie.
There would have been a part two, but Barry Gordy.
Barry Gordy wanted time to sell his soul.
Good for you, time.
Whoa, there's that shit you were talking about.
But what does that even mean?
Barry Gordy wanted time to sell his soul.
How I wonder if we can
I'll unpack that statement for a second.
What does it mean when you want someone else to sell your soul?
Is that even like they're doing something wrong?
You want them?
What they're doing?
Yeah, they're they're talking about time.
Excellent. So the very thing I've ever heard this.
I'll do one last one from Isaac H, possibly Isaac Hayes.
I don't know. Five stars titled Kiss My Converse.
Oh, hey, yeah, that's a great title.
In an Isaac Hayes impression.
It's too long. It's too long for that.
I don't even know if I can do is it just like a low voice?
And then it's just over.
It's Chef from South Park.
Yeah. Yeah.
But that's like, is that just his normal voice?
Or is he putting on like a chef's voice when he does that?
That's a great question.
He was in he was in him.
What movie did I see?
No, he's a musician, though.
I know who Isaac Hayes.
I made the joke.
You told me who Isaac Hayes is.
Right. And his voice is known to be.
I made the joke about Isaac Hayes.
Let me tell you who Isaac Hayes is, James.
You know South Park, right?
Chef. He's a musician.
But I'm more to the point of like Isaac Hayes, just like Barry White was like,
like his music was very like like fucking baby making sexy jazzy,
like fucking can't get a no.
Like it was it was slower.
Barry White, right?
Sure. But I don't have an Isaac Hayes song to throw at you right now.
But like, I just know he's a musician.
Me too.
And but it's not like he's.
Yeah. You find a good Isaac Hayes.
He has a deep voice.
It sounds good, man.
Well, the cool let the court know that Danny knows that Isaac Hayes is a musician
and it's cool and not a specific song, but I would request that overall.
Thank you for correcting me, though.
Isaac Hayes also sounds good.
Uh huh.
That noted.
OK, I said, uh, gosh, clickety clack, clickety clack, clickety clack.
I haven't covered this anything else I have to say.
And also does Chef from South Park.
Yes. So there's South Park is the show, right?
It's a cartoon.
Yeah, let's start that.
Guys, these are the things I know about Isaac Hayes.
Your thoughts.
Like, what do you know about?
I think it's.
This is what we know.
We're not we're not doing this.
We're not having the you start.
Well, do you know Isaac Hayes?
We're not playing that game.
I'm going to go unsuspecting person, unsuspecting person.
Just Patrick. Yeah.
We're really going to get to the bottom of this and we're going to find out some shit,
you know, as I go.
I'm glad I'm going to read this review and then we're going to
we're going to talk about our how we feel about it.
Isaac H.
Says the last dragon is, of course, one of the greatest 80s cult classics.
I grew up as a child of the 80s.
I've seen the last dragon at least a dozen times.
I never got tired of watching Bruce Leroy Kung Fu's way around Harlem,
searching for the master, some dumb goy obvious small hat rhetoric,
ultimately discovering who is the master.
The whole movie is great, funny and clever.
A couple of good little action scenes,
literally defending Laura Charles from a kidnapping
and then rescuing her from Eddie Arcadian, getting bullied by show
enough and culminating in my favorite part, the fight between he and the showgun.
The whole end sequence is something magical and very nostalgic for me.
The score by Barry Gordy and the 80s special effects
still hit me like the first time I saw it.
I bought the DVD to introduce to my young boys to one of my favorites.
They loved it and they asked to watch it from time to time.
It's a wonderfully wholesome, inoffensive film with no political agenda,
unlike much of what passes for entertainment nowadays.
There it is.
By the near.
Dammit.
Things were better then.
Why?
Yeah.
Well, Danny, you being our gracious guest that
decided to come on our program and share your your your value valuable time with us.
Would you care to share your final thoughts and give it a score out of 100?
Thousand.
I'm going to save a million.
One hundred.
Could you leave?
All right.
Ha ha ha.
OK, no more funny business.
Calm down, Brandon.
I know what you guys are referring to, like I threw off your your your stats
because I went higher than 100 percent rating.
Oh, I don't care.
We do have a deal.
You're right.
But I forget, was it like 150 or something for 50 games?
Like that for Millie.
Well, that's the Malik.
We got to watch.
Is that the only one we can watch again?
Let's watch Megan tonight.
Can we watch Megan tonight?
I don't know.
Oh, oh, yeah.
I'll look into it.
Maybe.
OK, that's OK.
I mean, and I don't like, you know, both of you have already seen it
and I haven't even seen it.
So like, you know, if you guys want to watch it again
and then you're going to watch it later with me, like, oh, well, wait for you.
I'll wait for you.
Wait for you.
No rush.
Be there.
You talked about it.
Have you done a thing about it?
I don't know if we ever will.
We haven't.
We could.
It's worth talking about.
It's worth it's worth discussion.
Interesting.
But yeah, I highly recommend your thoughts about the movie.
My thoughts about this movie.
Well, thank you.
Thank you for thank you for thank you for choosing this movie
and having me on to talk about it because anytime anytime coming back.
I'm going to say like and this is where, you know, I.
I think.
The reason why my my my my very like flagrant boring like looks
looks bad is because like there's something that I get out of that.
That this takes such big swings.
Like I said, like, I think it's like, you know,
when people make choices that like are so intricately extreme.
Right or wrong, whatever, like just blind faith.
But like what I'm doing.
Is the shit.
And I'm going to just put everything into it.
Like then it's kind of hard to.
See something that got that far and not be flattered by it.
And I think also there's something to say about the genre of the.
Like.
Blacksploitation movies of the 70s started get really into like.
For some reason, it's like black people doing kung fu from like Bruce Lee
from like ever since cream of dual jobar was in.
Like, I think that's like the.
The one that was it with like Chuck Norris and all that.
I think like.
There became this like crossover thing that's bird.
Like if you ever saw the movie.
Superfly or something like that.
Where the.
There was like kung fu swept through the culture in such a big bad way.
And this movie.
Has everything like somebody.
Like a black person who was like a black person.
Who was like a black person who was like a black person.
Who was like a black person.
Who at the time kind of wanted and was leaning towards with like certain.
Inspirations of Bruce Lee to.
Just.
Just cinema at the time.
And this was made in what year?
1980.
Was it five.
Four or five.
The soundtrack says four and then the movie.
Yeah.
And then the music.
Is like to a lot of degrees,
well polished with the music and the timing and structure of the movie
and stuff.
And then you have people.
That are trying a lot with the main characters that is.
You know,
In certain ways, almost catatonic.
And, and like.
But.
Like the.
The most important thing that he is.
Is what kind of like makes the campiness of the movie and everything
work.
And.
I just really enjoyed like the pageantry of it,
like all the different.
Kung Fu outfits and like that were like, kind of like, you know,
an escape from New York, mad maxi, like, you know, things.
We're going to grab stuff. We found a locker room,
but then like make it color coordinated and go with the shoes and stuff.
And I was like, yeah, this is.
There's a lot of effort being involved here.
And also like.
To some degree, like show enough besides being like, you know,
extremely dominant and maybe like a little like authoritarian.
Like it seemed like he was pretty accepting of people and stuff.
And like, he had like a wide variety of people that like.
Followed him. So.
You know, if that many people are interested, who knows?
Maybe this guy actually is pretty cool. Like a.
All of them look pretty happy.
And like, I mean,
In another world, maybe I, you know, would have been over there with like,
you know.
Like football uniform and, and Freeman show enough to.
But thank God the way this movie pulled everything off was like.
It's unfortunate that it.
It wasn't.
A box office success, but then it had a very like huge Renaissance.
And I think I'm glad for it. So I, I'm going to rate this movie high,
but I also bring up like.
Some of these movies, like.
I think well, like that I was dead serious and that's why I went so over.
Oh yeah.
I fully support that as soon.
But that movie.
Like is.
Able to see outside of itself.
And that's where like, what it was doing was choices on purpose.
To do.
All the things that they wanted to do.
And pull it off. Well, this movie, I think makes swings and I love it. So I'm going to go.
And like an 88.
Actually. Yeah.
And the reason it's also boosted up.
From like a 75 or an 80 would be.
The.
Closer to 90 is because of the watchability.
I could put this on anytime and be happy to watch it.
And even just seeing a glimpse of it will cheer me up.
Like, I mean, I think it's like,
I think it's like a movie that's like a movie that's like a movie that's
like a movie that's like a movie that's like a movie that's like a movie that's
like a movie that's like a movie that's like a movie this film is like.
The alone.
Right.
So like your kids or your beautiful house your aggressive kid.
Protected her.
Good example.
Of attack.
Like we're hearing it too.
Yeah.
Like.
So there's really nice.
Yeah.
This was excellent.
I think that there's also like.
You know, something to talk about about, like.
Uh,
like, like, dominant characters that just enforce their will upon like everybody around them in like a very, like, like arch villain kind of way.
Yeah, very theatrical. Yeah.
It is very theatrical.
But it makes me excited for a world where this is just like this.
This is, yeah, like that, like, there's just gangs run by like kung fu, you know, like football hooligans. Like, like, this is typical.
We did watch Green Street Hooligans as well.
It's a good one.
Yeah, they're a musical gang, you know.
And you have like movies like The Warriors and shit like that, where it's just like, for some reason, there's this like fantasy universe, like everything is just a bunch of gangs everywhere.
And clubs, there's clubs in all like 80s movies, there's fucking huge club scene.
Oh, it's chicks just like dancing all the time.
Well, we got an 88 from Danny.
88, like, and, and, you know, with a bullet.
Actually, I'm going to tip it to 89.
Wow.
Hell yeah.
You're the last dragon, and now you possess the power of the glow.
So you got to get the 90s.
Do you want to go or do you want to go last?
What do you think?
Sure, I'll go.
Yeah.
This is super watchable movie that I mean, the way I discovered this movie, I guess I never said it was yeah, it was like a late night on Netflix.
And I had a little giggle grass and out of my chuckle chimney.
And I didn't know what it was.
I like really didn't know what it was when I put it on.
I was like, oh, this looks interesting.
And as it was happening, I just had no context and I just, and I fully enjoyed it.
And I found myself fully on board with everything I was doing.
Other times where I'm like, this is like a, how did this get made sort of situation?
Uh, where I'm kind of like, what are these decisions?
Like, why, why is the acting so bad or something like that?
But, um, I just remember a feeling that I had associated with that.
I didn't remember much about it beyond that, but just a good feeling.
And so doing the Barry Gordy thing was like almost in it, doing these mood,
these three movies was just an excuse for me to get to this one.
I'm glad I revisited it, um, because revisited it, uh, because I had another
great time and so much so that we watched it like a week or so ago.
And I felt like I didn't really fully retain everything.
I think I was a little distracted.
So I watched it again today, kind of in the background as I was, I was doing
other stuff and fucking loved it, loved it again.
So three times I own it.
I'm happy.
I do definitely going to be in the, in the rotation of my life.
Um, and it makes me want to watch other movies too, like, like Bruce Lee movies.
Like it makes me cause I did see some Bruce Lee in this, but it makes me like,
kind of want to like expand my understanding of almost cinema in a weird
way because it like is pulling from so many things from the eighties that I
wasn't really, uh, fully there for at the time that they were, were relevant and
popular.
Um, but it's yeah, love the soundtrack, the energy of it, the pacing, the
editing, uh, the physicality at least of time act and is, is really well done.
And it, I, the fact that his little brother calls him weird the whole time
helps the fact that he is, he does act so weird that someone is constantly saying
like, man, like what's your deal?
You definitely need that help.
Yeah.
Somebody calls it out.
His brother, like who, like, you know him like, so like he's not changed.
The thing is he's not changing.
He's that the whole time.
So it's like, how's this kid surprised all the time?
Yeah.
He tries to put on that, like front in front of those, like those three, those
three dudes that are like rapping all the time.
And they, yeah, I don't know.
That was a weird seed, but, um, I, and they're trying to get them to like drink
and smoke and stuff and, uh, anyways, yeah, I, I, I just, everything
like a box factory.
Where were they?
The fortune cookie factory.
And so it was like printing out the message was like, if you're colorblind,
don't follow a horse by another color.
Some shit like is it whatever that was?
And that was the one for everybody.
It was like, what the fuck?
And that's for everybody.
And it's just like printing it out on a repeat.
Oh, we got to find, I want to know what it is.
If it was like, if you're colorblind, don't follow a horse from another color
breed, I don't know how does that scene go?
I fuck it.
But, uh, it's not supposed to fucking, it's just, this movie just has an energy
and you can tell that it knew and knows what it is.
And that goes such a long way.
And it's a lot of fun to watch with people.
And it, uh, it's just, I keep using the word fun because it's just fun and
you don't have to overthink things and you can kind of laugh at some of the
stuff and then, uh, be into some of the fights and the cool effects and visuals
there, um, and then I guess, yeah, my complaint, why it's not going to get a
perfect score would be the Arcadian stuff for sure, where it's just like over the
top, cuckoo bananas, villain.
That's just so theatrical that they're both him and the girl playing to the
back row, uh, the whole time.
And it's, it's a lot.
And, um, with Eber on this one.
Um, so I will give it an 82.
I was, I was very, very happy with this movie and, and had a, had a great time
definitely fresh and, uh, I've seen it, seen it twice in the past two weeks.
And, um, I could totally do it again.
I totally could not not have a huge problem, especially for the fucking
whiz.
Are you kidding me?
Oh my God.
It's like, I'd rather watch this three times in a row than watch that.
Absolutely.
I w I w I would say that, uh, the difference in levels of enjoyment is so
drastic that it is gave me the same amount of whiplash as that transition.
You had
God damn it.
I'm trying here, man.
How are we going to get
Wetzel's pretzels and Jack in the crack to
You tell me if you can find it, you tell me.
No, I love that.
I love that.
But yeah, that's amazing.
Um, I feel the, I'm sorry again.
What was your score?
I'm sorry.
I'm going to go 82.
Yeah, 82.
That feels great.
Um, show enough.
Uh, there's a, yeah, this is an enjoyable movie.
Um, it's a fucking, I'll go evil five because that's when it came out.
I'm going to do 85.
Do it.
Danny changed his score.
Um,
yeah, it's there's something always on screen that it's, I'm either like
like, why is that there or I'm enjoying it because it's so, you know, it's so
silly, cool, um, uh, yeah, whatever.
Um, stylist.
Yeah.
It's just all the style of this movie is really fun.
I love that people have the, a lot of people are wearing like gold chains.
I even liked the jacket on the, one of the little kids.
It was like this.
Mixture between like a trucker and like an army jet.
It was like a, you know, jean jacket with like patches on it.
So sick.
Um, and all of show enoughs outfits are awesome.
Like I mentioned earlier, earlier, like that shoulder pad thing, you know, it
was crazy too, is I think that, uh, he had glasses that were those sheet, the
shutter glasses.
Oh yeah.
Yeah.
I like the Kanye ones, like the Kanye ones.
And I, it really made me think like did.
So I looked up the designer for those glasses for the designer of Kanye's
glasses.
And obviously I can't find a connection of, uh, of him in an interview being
like, I got the idea from the last dragon.
I feel like Kanye would love this movie though.
I do too.
Um, I love this movie.
Um, uh, yeah, any of the Eddie Arcadian stuff definitely just skipped through.
Um, but I'm gonna give this movie high.
I don't know.
Yeah.
I rewatched it again today too.
And it's wonderful to have on the background or if you're getting smoking
that giggle grass, like you had mentioned, this is a wonderful movie.
It's silly.
It's, uh, doesn't take anything seriously and it consistently presents things on
screen where you're like laughing at, at it and with it.
And it's just, yeah.
Um, yeah, that's what it was great.
Um, I'm going to do, uh, I'm going to give it the same score as you, man.
I'm going to give it an 85.
That's a solid score.
That's right where it should be.
It feels good.
Feels right.
Hell yeah.
Well, we're, uh, we're all in the same ballpark and it feels, feels good.
And I'm so glad that this is how we're ending the Barry Gordy, uh, series
after mahogany and the whiz, uh, being a little, little spotty.
It's cool to know that Barry Gordy put it together for, for something in a visual
way.
Uh, next I would like to play a little game that I just came up with and, uh,
well, sort of, I was kind of inspired, uh, by another game on another podcast.
I like called get played.
Um, but in this game, uh, I have not come up with a name with it.
It's review blitz.
I'm going to call it review blitz.
Welcome to review blitz.
Uh, they're going to be, it's going to be best two out of three.
Um, how I'm going to do it is I'm going to read reviews out to you guys of these
movies or we'll start with just one.
I'm going to start with movie by movie, but, uh, it's going to be up to you to
guess what the movie is based on the reviews that I give you.
Um, and to make it somewhat easier, I am going to give you a theme.
These are comedies from 1998.
Okay.
This first one is kind of, I'll give you another hint for this first one, just to
start us out, hopefully not too hard.
It might be hard.
I don't know.
We'll see you guys are good or nice movie, big movie buffs.
So, uh, this one's kind of comedy drama, but it's from 1998.
Uh, and I'm just going to start reading reviews and whenever you guys think you
know it, you can, you can buzz in and we'll just keep it loose.
You can guess as many times as you want.
Right.
Sounds good to me.
Um, let's start.
Let's do it.
1998.
Uh, this is an audience review.
Uh, it's a 10 out of 10.
She says Melissa six, three, eight, one, seriously hands down one of my favorite
movies, the story is original.
The cinematography is perfect.
Surely this movie is a comedy and it has its fair share of funny moments.
However, the depth of this movie is what brings me back time and time again.
So there's one, uh, from variety.
He met, met Sally.
No, uh, Todd McCarthy.
Yeah.
Okay.
Like a building.
We'll see how it goes.
We'll see.
We'll see how this goes.
I'm going to keep on reading.
Do I get a, do I get it?
Like, it was like close.
Is there anything like that?
I'm going to give you more hints as we go along.
This is just one review.
I'm sorry.
That was the perfect first review though, because like I have, that could be anything.
Okay.
Go on.
Uh, let's see here.
Um, from the critic side, the Austin Chronicle, Marjorie Baumgart and gave it a 16 out of
Marjorie Baumgart and gave it a 67.
It's unusually provocative and challenging for our Hollywood Hollywood movie and
surprisingly allows the audience to piece things together without too much external
direction.
These are very vague.
Say, why you're a liar.
That I will give you, that is kind of close.
That is, that is kind of close.
Cable guy.
No, it's a romantic comedy.
Also close.
That is also close.
Cable guy is also kind of close.
Me, myself, and Irene.
These are all close because of the same person that's in all of them.
So that's a big when nature call.
I'm going to read a few more, keep on guessing.
Uh, let's see here.
Um, fuck.
Um, USA today, Mark Clark, my Clark gave it an 88 funny and the payoff is the most
provocative Hollywood concoction in a while.
Uh, SF exam, examiner G Alan Johnson gave it an 88 says a crowd pleaser that
caters to our hoarder of totalinary totalling to tell.
Oh, yeah.
And is it, God damn it.
I can't, I was doing an amalgamum thing earlier as well.
Um, our, our love of personal freedom, our belief justified or diluted that
knowledge is a powerful tool and that access to information is a God given
right.
Enemy of this. No, that's not a comic.
I wag the dog.
That's the hint is Jim Carrey is in this movie.
You guys, I've given you that one.
So this is a Jim Carrey movie from 1998.
Totalitarian.
I'm going to give you, this is going to be another big one.
I'm going to give you another, another hint.
Um, is it Bruce Almighty?
No, no.
From LA weekly, Ella Taylor gives an 80.
Carrie is a gene is a genius at registering the rage between television,
sunny smile while Laura Linney excels as his wife.
It's, um.
You got it.
Dick and Jane.
No, no, no.
It's, um.
TV guide magazine, Matt McDonough.
What is the name of this movie?
Um, a cool indictment of television's near irresistible.
Yes.
Did you just say, no, yeah, Danny got it.
So one for Danny.
We got there.
See, we got there.
It's just like, I, when I saw Truman show as a kid, I didn't think it was a comedy
because it scared the shit out of me.
Yeah.
I realized that's kind of a tough one to start with, but that's why I try to say
drama as well at the beginning, but it's got Jim Carrey.
Is that movie is a comedy?
No, you're right.
Looking back at it, if you watch it, it's like a satire.
I'm of life.
When I saw it, when I was in like, I think I went with my parents to see it in sixth
grade movie theater and it scared the piss out of me.
And I was like, I remember like, that's what I remember.
I remember like my neighbor friend being like, and watch that movie.
You're going to like buy multiple lots for your door.
But yeah, you know, like I was, I was an eight year old child.
My, my neighbor friend was like, well, I think I'm in a Truman show.
And I'm like, no, you're not.
And he's like, whoa, if you're, if I'm a Truman show, you're going to lie to you
would be lying to me right now.
And I'm like, well, if I'm in one, you're lying to me.
And we're like, fuck dude, you're not that cool.
I'm eight years old.
This is crazy.
All right.
So one, one to Danny.
Uh, let's, let's move on to our next movie.
Um, we can do best two out of three, or if you, we can do the third one.
If Danny gets someone, we'll see how we feel from our con blade.
A user review, 10 out of 10.
This is, uh, this is a comedy.
The one thing you can almost always say about the director.
What, what year the directors, um, 1998 is all 1998.
The one thing you can almost always say about the directors.
I'll give you that hint is they are innovative with their films.
This is a very funny film with an entertaining plot, great acting.
It's a great film that if you want to see something funny and different,
then you should definitely check this out.
From Dell, a 10 out of 10 do another user.
Absolutely.
Brother, where are you?
No, but close.
See that's close.
10 out of 10.
Absolutely the best comedy in the, in my world.
Amazing story, cast acting and everything else.
The humor in this film went to 11 on every sense.
It's smart, funny and legendary.
Watch this gem.
That's an orgo.
Are not your reading.
You guys are on it with all the, you did it again with the similarity
between all those movies is the hint.
So you got it.
Um, this is one, there's another one from the audience and I'll switch to critics.
If, if you don't get it, raise raising Arizona is like earlier.
Derek B 10 out of 10.
Many people get frustrated with this film with the fact that the story
does not make sense or goes anywhere.
To me, this is part of the reason why this one is one of the best movies
ever to be executed.
It's more about the amazing characters created along with the perfectly
crafted jokes and timing of them.
This movie also has some great visual work.
It is an original work of art, perfectly cast, directed and edited.
Is it? You said it's not big.
Lebowski.
Yeah. You're, you got the Cohen brothers thing quick.
Cause I said directors probably right.
But I, I just thought that big Lebowski was earlier than 98.
Like that shocks me 98.
Yeah.
I'm rocked to my core.
Do you guys want to do the third one for fun?
Do one more or you guys send up?
Yeah, please.
Yeah.
And then I got to shut it down.
I got, I got, I got to go.
We'll make it quick.
Ribs rain. You said, oh shit.
He's smoking ribs.
Okay. We'll make this quick.
My God.
I forgot all about the ribs.
Do you want to go right now?
No, let's just do this.
Okay. Okay.
This is another com for sure comedy.
This is like absolute for sure comedy from 1998.
We'll start with Peter Travers.
Rolling stone gave it a 100% a 10 out of 10 film for Peter Travers.
Sensational sicko fun.
You won't believe your eyes and just the thing to shake up the creeping
conservatism that is draining the vulgar life out of pop culture.
What?
In 1990.
And this guy got a lot out of this stand in this movie.
He's playing chess.
We're playing checkers.
Austin Powers.
This is my show.
Negative from AV club.
Joe garden, one of the funniest movies of the year, but you may need to shower.
Afterwards gave it a 90.
Chicago Tribune, Mark Carey 88.
The day after seeing it, you're less likely to fixate on the flaws than to find
yourself experiencing chuckle aftershocks as you recall the most outrageous
gags in these days of mostly forgettable comedies.
That sensation has become all too rare.
All these critics really like word or comedies.
Also,
Pulp Fiction negative.
From I'll do film threat from 70 and other critics, the performers all fall
effortlessly into their slapstick roles and the troubadour duo, the film's Greek
chorus as a delightfully poetic touch.
That's that one actually.
No, that one actually kind of throws.
If you haven't seen the movie in a while, you almost forget that part of it.
You know, that's too nice.
I'll do one more critic and then I'm on the princess bride.
No.
From this is like they've been kind of like a little more like the kind of
crass humor they've been saying, kind of sicko humor.
They kind of like mentioning these critics.
Kangaroo.
Kangaroo, the Austin Chronicle is 67 by Marjorie Baumgarden, a surprisingly large
number of the last work, although understandably, a good number of them
also fall flat.
You can bet that whenever the story slows down to advance the plot concerning its
paper thin characters, the film takes a noticeable dip.
When Harry met, no, sorry, something about Mary nailed it.
Got it. Nice.
High five. Well done, did.
See, yeah, it's like for sure.
That's like for sure. Comedy.
Nice, dude. That's a Fairly Brothers movie.
That's yeah. They just made that champ champions movie that came out recently as
well. Oh, that's what that is.
But thank you for joining for me for review blitz.
I love that. Yeah, that's really fun.
You can play with any game or any movie, not just a polarizing movie, but, you
know, that's fair. It's kind of fun when you get kind of like those mixed reviews
or when you try to like describe a movie by its story elements in a very vague
way, you kind of like it's kind of funny to to think about.
Mm hmm.
Man climbs the mountain to throw a piece of jewelry.
Right away.
A tiny man climbs the mountain to throw with her feet over some of the gate.
Yeah. But anyways, thank you guys for joining us.
I'll get you out of here, Danny.
I really appreciate you coming on again and giving us your time and your opinions
and the other, as I said before, invaluable.
And you're just such a such a yeah.
And again, invaluable piece of you got the glow.
Your brain is just full of movie facts that I lot.
I feel like I don't know.
And you know a lot about especially this more of this era of film, too.
And that was really awesome to have around today and can't wait to have you back
next time. Brandon, what's our movie next week?
Our movie next week is going this.
So we're going to be revisiting a director that we
have seen before and done before on this podcast.
Lowry, I'm sorry, David Lowry, I believe.
This is the name for Peter Pan and Wendy.
Peter Pan and Wendy is the next movie that we're going to be doing.
I'm really excited to revisit this director, because I mean, I really
both of us really enjoy.
Fucking love Green Night.
Green Night was fucking awesome.
Oh, he did that. Oh, well, then harder
to go to anybody to check that movie out.
It's it's fucking sweet.
And this one has a 62 percent by critics and a 12 percent by audience.
A 12, 12.
That's scary. Yeah, you're scaring me, Brandon.
But we'll see what happens.
I'm worried about my guy, David Lowry.
We'll see how it goes.
Thank you again, Danny.
If you'd like to.
This was our episode.
This was our series on Barry Gordy.
And if you want to hear us talk about more about Barry Gordy
and his music and Motown and how we feel about that,
you can join us on Brandon and I's other podcasts with our good friend
Blarge slash Corey, where we talk about music producers.
And that was our most recent episode done.
Barry was very news. We've only done a few.
We've done Barry Gordy. We've done Diplo.
We've done Todd Ruddgren.
Been a lot of fun. Our next one is Max Martin.
And we hope to see you join us over there.
The easiest way to listen, that one would be on Spotify.
And if you want to reach us, reach out to us here in any way,
Polarize the pod at Gmail dot com is our email.
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We're streaming live right now.
And we hope to see you there.
And that'll do it for us now.
And we'll do it for us.
And Brandon and I are going to go play some tears of the kingdom.
Some Zelda.
All right, guys, we love you so much.
What's that?
And that's us. And we're leaving.
That's us. And we're shut it down.
Shut it down.
Get me out of here. All right.
OK, bye bye.
You are the last dragon.
Yeah, you've got to be shown enough in the third act act.
Shaman.
I got to go to the Tinkletorium.
I haven't heard that one.