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Hello everyone, welcome to the Polarize Podcast.

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I'm your host, James.

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Welcome to the show about polarizing movies, the movies that audiences and critics disagree

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on the most according to Round Tomatoes.

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Sometimes the audiences love it and the critics hate it or vice versa.

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It's an underworld series, folks.

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We are neck deep in the battle of the ages.

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We're starting from the beginning here with Underworld Rise of the Lycans.

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Let's see those numbers that bring us here in the first place.

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It is a 30 percent percentile by the critics.

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It is a 63 percent by the audience.

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Something about myself and my relation to this movie.

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This was my foyer into the underworld franchise back in 2009.

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I was thinking, hey, I can go see R rated movies.

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I am 19 years old.

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I'm going to go with my buddy Jason to the underworld rise of the Lycans.

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And I was like, I haven't seen any other ones.

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Is that OK?

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He's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's fine because it's the beginning and it's its

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own story.

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And he was right.

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I had a pretty good time.

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I remember thinking like, it's so dark and wow, there's a lot of practical effects with

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these werewolves.

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And at the time, I don't think I was cultured enough to understand how cool that was.

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I'm like, this looks kind of silly and stupid.

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And now I'm like, this is awesome because this is a change in the in the reigns of directors

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as well.

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The director of this movie is the guy who worked on the creature effects in the first

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couple.

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So we get a lot of that.

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And before I go any further with any of this fun stuff that I'm throwing your way about

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my life in relation to the underworld franchise, which is the only way I think of it now, let

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me bring in my best buddy, co-host with the co-most, the great.

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Are we doing everybody's welcome?

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What's going on, Brandon?

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I'm chilling, man.

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It's a cozy morning.

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Yeah, we're doing a cozy PJ morning record.

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Yeah, we're doing a PJ morning, PJ Harvey record.

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Oh my God.

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Don't tempt me.

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Oh yeah, right.

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She's probably polarizing in her own way, but also critically acclaimed.

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You just said it.

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You know, it's true.

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God, that's, I mean, speaking of which, yeah, we haven't done a concert report in a while.

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That PJ Harvey show that I went to was awesome.

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It was great.

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Yeah.

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The production was fantastic.

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Yeah, it was.

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It was interesting, like when you, what was that?

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What was the stage set up like?

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Well, when we got there, I heard one of the people working there like, yeah, she requested

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that they didn't have any music playing as you come in and there's no opener at all either.

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So we come into the Greek theater in here in Los Angeles, Los Angeles, and there's no

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music and it's just, we're just hanging out.

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They had nice, nice warm babies because it was cold, but I got a Jameson ginger ale and

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the guy said he accidentally charged me for a single, even though I got a double.

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He's like, so make sure you tip me.

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Well, I was like, yeah, it's okay.

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I was going to, I did a, or I think, yeah, I think that's what he said.

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A single and said, whatever.

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And then we sit down and she plays the whole new album front to back at right at the beginning.

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And it was, it was pretty minimalistic, but she's doing a lot of interesting movements

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and it's very much, it's very artistic and it's very much like a concept.

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I feel like that she's trying to get out there with a new album and push cause she had, it's

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been a while since she had a new album and I do love that new album.

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So that was really great to just hear it all front to back.

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Like I've been doing a lot since it came out.

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And then there was like a little break and she went away and John parish did a little

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song with him and the boys.

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And then she did a like a little costume change, came back and did a lot of her other big hits

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namely like letting wood shake is where she started, but then she went through all the

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other, all the other stuff.

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And I loved it.

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It was fantastic.

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But let me say one of my favorite things, I don't know if I've mentioned this before,

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but my favorite things of concerts lately is either the talk from people in the bathroom

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that are not really so much enjoying the show or really not big fans of it or on the way

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out people being very critical.

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Cause I feel like I've been experiencing that a lot lately when I go to shows and this one

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was these guys just like in the bathroom when I, when I take a quick trip, I'm trying, I'm

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rushing you and I want to get back, but I'm also probably quite the show to do that.

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See, but Hey, no, no, no judgment.

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But these guys were not that they were just, it's just like, man, she's got to lighten

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up a bit.

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So there's like, Oh, she's going to put everyone to sleep.

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I was like, motherfucker, like, why are you here?

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You hear that?

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It takes a lot to come out to a show.

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This is not just like a casual thing to go out to Greek theater, see PJ Harvey.

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It's like, as you know, their friends are going to music.

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And there was a point to where there was a, there's some pros sitting behind me and it's

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like very quiet.

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There's a very quiet song later on and it's, it's, it's about kind of upsetting stuff.

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And but it's very beautifully sung and everyone's just like wrapped in attention, quiet.

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And it kind of like slows down for a little, you know, quieter part of the song and just

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hear this guy like, so I was like the other day, just telling, like, just having a full

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on loud conversation and everyone, like, I could feel all the energy around us, like

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all kind of look back, like, what the hell?

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And he is just like, starts being like sarcastically shushing going like, Oh, oh, shh, oh, shh.

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And for the rest of the song, he was like, everyone shh, like facetiously.

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I'm like, mother, are you in second grade right now?

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You got shushed and now you're like, Oh, we're going to be shushed.

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Oh, everybody.

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Sorry.

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And I walk into the show, I heard another person talking to me like, Oh man, that guy

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was so annoying.

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That song was beautiful about all this, you know, intense stuff.

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And he's just like, and, and then my, my other two ones was that happened at Casey Musgraves

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as well.

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When I saw her, yeah, it was some bros in the bathroom as well.

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Just like, man, yeah, she's got to liven up a bit, put, put people to sleep.

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And so she was the same thing.

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I'm like, guys, guys, why are you here?

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Like looking to fucking rage at, you know, this, I don't know, soft folk country pop

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sort of case.

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And that show was amazing as well.

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And then cat power as well.

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When I saw a cat, I've been on a spree when she did the Bob Dylan covers, she was having

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some like audio issues with the monitor, but she sounded great, but she was having some,

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some issues and walking down to there, you could tell people were like, yeah, I don't

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know what her do.

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But she was having, I was like, God, she's just having some sound problems and she worked

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it out beautifully.

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And it was such an amazing show, but that's my new favorite thing that I try to clock

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at shows on for concert watch this week on a polarized pod is those people that go all

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the way out to a concert and hate it and criticize the hell out of it.

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I know there can be bad shows, but it's like, why are you, you know, what kind of music

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this is, right?

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Totally.

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You know, I feel like I've felt that similarly in the way that people talk about festivals,

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especially Coachella, where people, where when there are bands that are more like rock,

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even just like, I would honestly like rockish more has a tendency to have slower songs,

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maybe some something contemplative, you know, and people just not like not knowing those

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bands, not caring with their association with music and with with music and with festivals

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is just to go party at.

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And so so there's there's just been this whole entire generation that you and me are a part

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of that's like most of my concerts are festivals.

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And at festivals, it's all about like going and having fun and partying.

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And then at a particular time in the day, it will add when you get to nighttime, everybody

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wants dance music.

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I know it's interesting to see at Coachella where they're like really interesting and

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cool people playing music and they're very like if they were doing their own like they're

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on their own tour already, that's why they're there.

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But like those are probably filling up pretty well.

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But at Coachella, it's like, I don't know.

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Yeah, they're getting like half as many people as they probably do get on a regular occasion

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because everybody's at, you know, the Sahara tent or the Yuma tent.

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And everybody's just getting fucked up and partying.

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And yeah, it's unsurprising to me.

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It's interesting to hear that you're picking up on it, too, because, yeah, I feel that

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as well as like the consumption of music is mainly around like it being at parties and

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partying, too, which I love.

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You know, I know it sounds critical, but like, if anything, I'm just wrestling with that

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idea because I face those thoughts as well, you know, where I'm like, oh, you know, I

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want to have a really good time.

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You know, I love music.

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I love being surrounded in music and that, you know, all of it is like having a good

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time.

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But yeah, it's funny to think about being.

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Nonetheless, in your situation of people, yeah, like really having a conversation at

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that person's show, because I'm really talking about festivals and just, you know, that.

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But at that show and being like, man, this is so slow and boring.

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It's like, I guess it really does, Rika, just like, oh, all our friends are going to this

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thing.

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We should get tickets or maybe they're like a partner of somebody that really enjoys them.

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But it's like, yeah, that it's it's funny to me.

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And then like, oh, that was the other one I heard that was like multiple at the P.J.

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Harvey show.

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And it was just a lot of dudes.

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And there's one guy was the funniest thing.

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He's like, man, that just reminded me of how great you two was live, man.

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I just I wish I was at a U2 show.

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It's like, what are you doing here?

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Like go see you, go see you, too.

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I don't know what to tell you, man.

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He's always I just want to go back to the sphere and see you, too.

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These other great all these other great shows that I'm actually into.

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I'm going to hold against this person that's doing their own thing.

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But yeah, I don't know.

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Don't do that, people.

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Hey, PSA, don't do that.

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I was outwardly laughing at him like as we were walking out.

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Like when I looked at each other, just like, oh, my God.

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I don't know.

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So I don't know.

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It's like you can definitely have criticisms of a show or you can be like, oh, that was

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they weren't very good tonight.

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And I've yeah, I've seen them before.

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And it's like it was.

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Oh, so the interesting conversations.

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A little more subtle or nuance or something rather than just like, I'm bored.

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And the festival thing makes a lot more sense.

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Like you're there to be at the festival and my last experience at Coachella.

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And I go to other festivals as well.

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But I think I've kind of shied away from doing it as much as I as I did in the past because

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of partly for that reason of just knowing that a little bit more so it still happens,

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but a little bit more so people are really all there for the music and for that person.

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And you get the full experience of that set.

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Yeah, totally.

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But yeah, to cover all your all your bases.

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Have a great time and see a whole bunch of different music and have all your friends

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at like, yeah, festivals cover so much of what you want.

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And it's very much choose your own adventure and you can make it make it what you want

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it to be.

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So absolutely.

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Yeah, very fun time.

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Yeah, we're we're not we're not against fun here.

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Before before we transition into the movie, I question I've been holding on.

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I wanted to ask you is what is the what is the concept of the new P.J.

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Harvey record?

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I know that is that is a very good question because I can't say I fully understand it.

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It's I understand the energy and what type of music it is, but I can't say that I've

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really dissected the lyrics enough to give you a straight answer on that.

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But it just sounds like she has a way with like kind of her latter half of her career

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in her music is it feels like someone telling you an old folk tale from like old timey,

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old timey like English storytelling in like a very haunting sort of folksy sort of way

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as opposed to like her earlier stuff was much more.

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She's kind of had all sorts of different versions of her and concepts and areas.

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And even as I said that, you know, as her trying to present a concept, I was like, yeah,

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but I guess I don't really fully understand what that is trying to say.

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But it definitely has a continuous sort of theme and type of sound that is separate from

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her past stuff.

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And she is one of those artists that for me, I came in a little later with the Letting

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Lynn Shake album, which is much later in her career.

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And I've had to go back and realize how monumental all her other stuff was.

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But I kind of enjoy the latter half of her career a little bit more with those kind of

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like Letting Lynn Shake is is very conceptual as well.

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But when I and it is one of those albums, as with the new one, where you kind of just

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listen to it all the way through, it's hard to pick out certain songs.

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Yeah, totally.

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Absolutely fair.

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But yeah, no, you got me.

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I don't I don't really know for sure what the defined concept is, just that it feels

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like it's she's really trying trying to do something specific in her mind and present

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people with a new idea that conceptually, when I look at it on stage and everything

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was a lot of interpretive, interpretational dancing that she was doing.

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And you know, just, you know, very like serious and open, like wide open eyes and almost like

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kabuki kabuki form of like, interpretal, interpretational dancing as it's happening.

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So as for me not understanding it, it's just like I know there's a concept of totally going

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on in her moving to different parts of the stage and the blocking of it all.

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And, you know, being on different instruments and like there's a point where the light was

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shooting up at all of the band members so that on the very back of the stage, you could

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see all their shadows in a really cool way.

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So it's like a shadow play of like these figures moving across.

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And she was doing a lot of cool stuff like to create the shadows.

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But yeah, I apologize.

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I don't have the clear answer.

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I encourage everyone to check out that album and arrive at your own conclusion.

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And I think that's something that I, yeah, I wish I was better about honing in on lyrics

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within me because it is such like a, I love this.

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Yeah.

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The sonic energy of all the, of all the sounds and the vocals a lot of times can just be

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another instrument on top of all of that.

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So but it is, yeah, a little slower, definitely.

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So those guys are just like, wow, I was, I wanted to, you know, maybe that first half

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of the show kind of caught some people by surprise when they wanted to just hear her

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older kind of badass, more rocky kind of punky sort of electric electric guitar sort of shit.

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But God damn, that was, that was my number one Spotify artist this year.

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And then number two is Bjork.

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And those are, that's been my year.

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Very similar, very similar in a lot of ways.

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The fucking best man.

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Oh my God.

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That's a long one.

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Is there, is there, well, we won't keep it long then, but I just, is there a particular

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Bjork record?

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Cause she didn't come out with a new record this year, right?

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I think it was 2023 was her last and it was like very much like a mushroom concept.

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I need to re-listen to that.

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That sounds, yeah, I don't think I have even at all listened to her latest record.

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That's cool.

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Yeah.

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And there's that whole period.

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I think, I think the new one has some Arca stuff as well, but there's a couple albums

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that are Arca produced or like a lot of it is just Arca together.

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And yeah, that was when I was more of a casual fan and I saw her was Volna Cura.

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I think it's called that album and live at fuck yeah.

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Fest and LA that no longer exists, but that was, that was my favorite festival.

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And she's just fucking amazing live and then going backwards into everything is quite the

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journey for her.

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Cause I think she's just, yeah, she, she could, she's right up there with my favorite stuff,

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man.

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I don't know.

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Definitely, definitely top 10 for me is Bjork.

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Is one of the things that you appreciate about her, the transformative nature that like equipment

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of music has.

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It's such a amazing combination of experimentation within music coupled with extreme talent,

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both how she produces her music and comes up with the sounds that are completely singular

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and don't sound like anyone else.

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Like her music just, just sounds like her in my mind.

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And then her voice is insane.

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I know it's a lot for, for some people, but like her range is absolutely just insane.

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And from a technical level, what she's able to do with arrangements of music is, I don't

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know.

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And in a lot of ways unmatched, like by a lot of, by a lot of people and even, yeah,

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going to like her earlier kind of like more swingy jazzy sort of, sort of stuff.

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It's just one of the coolest, one of the coolest people and has been a great deep dive, but

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enough, enough about me.

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Before we go into underworld, what was any deep dives of artists that you've been liking?

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I just want to say that I feel like I've been going off about music.

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This is cozy.

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This is cozy morning, morning.

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We're just shooting this, shooting this shit.

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That's a good question.

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Any deep dives in musicians that I've been doing lately?

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No, not, not too much.

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I've been listening to a lot of talking heads.

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I think it would probably be like this year, I would say the most, like most deep divey

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would be talking heads.

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I did a fair amount of Roy Orbison.

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I think those would be my top.

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I mean with Charlie XCX's Brad album being as good and as, as popular as it is, it's

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been just a blast to be able to talk with people who now like have listened to a Charlie

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XCX record because prior to this, it was very, very few people were listening to records.

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They would know like the single off of an album.

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Sure.

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And then as Charlie made records, it would be like, now this record has two singles.

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Now this record has three singles now.

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And then it just all came to this culmination of Brad coming out.

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And it's like the, it's.

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She was a great like feature on other people's stuff too, I feel like.

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Sure.

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Yeah, absolutely.

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I mean, I think it's a great thing to produce because like, you know, that's, that's always

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been a thing for me that just, I naturally gravitated towards this because it's like

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having, you know, I guess I still am to a degree, but now that's waned a little bit,

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but being such a big Kanye West fan is I love the producer artist individual, like because

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somebody who's almost like a producer foremost and then just like sings on their stuff.

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I really love that type of person because they're caring so much more about like, cause

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the producer in like, in my mind operates in this.

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I'm trying to push a sound like almost like a singularly.

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If you were to think about just the concept, like, uh, like, uh, any great pop record has

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like this particular sound to it.

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And producers are like, that's where they're operating at.

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And singers can come in and get slotted into this new sound that's happening.

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Now I'm thinking of your brother, Marvin, Marvin, I'm yelling on the cozy podcast.

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Um, you can't stop me.

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Uh, but yeah.

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So I always loved that artist.

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And so, uh, Charlie's just been so fantastic to follow because there was a transition that

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happened for her early on.

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I think she had like two records before that were going in the direction of being like,

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uh, almost like Megan trainer, if you will, like very commercial, uh, wanting producers

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to come in and her to be like the pop star and less of having control over what it, what

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the songs actually sound like.

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And so she went in the total opposite direction and found this niche group of producers making

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music online called PC music group and AG cook was one of them and hired him to be her

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creative director, not a producer, but a creative director.

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And then made pop too.

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And when in this, well, firstly did vroom vroom EP because then Sophie was also connected

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to PC music and then took that into like, this is what pop music is going to sound like

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for the next 15, you know, 10, 15 years and identifying that and then moving in that direction

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early on and then just polishing like what, like really it's always just like iterating

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on what that, like what pop music is going to sound like.

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And unsurprisingly, it sounds a lot like, um, Detroit house music.

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It sounds a lot like drum and bass, you know, shit like that.

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Um, yeah, it just, and all of that, it's just been so great.

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So like, yeah, that's deeper dive and stuff.

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Um, and it's just this whole year it's been fun that, um, the Charlie record has been

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what everybody talks about.

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It was just so, uh, such a part of the culture too.

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Cause yeah, um, again, she's really good at a lot of things.

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Marketing is one of them.

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There's, you know, even before Brad years before Brad, so many interviews with her talking

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about like how she wants to release her music, how she wants her like market her music and

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things like that.

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And it's just, she gets it, um, because she wants to get it.

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She's interested in getting it.

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She's interesting in solving this problem of like, what's the cool, like coolest music

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you can make or whatever.

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And um, yeah, it's, um, this year's been cool for that.

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I agree, man.

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Yeah.

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That, that album lived up to every single bit of hype that you would ever hear about

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if you've never even listened to any, just know of, uh, of the Brad lifestyle and you

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never even heard of the music.

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If you finally hear the music, it's going to live up to everything and more.

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It's a, it's a amazing album.

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And seeing, yeah, like her rises.

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Awesome.

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Speaking of rises.

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Oh, good.

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Good James.

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Yes.

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Yes.

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Yes.

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Let's speak of rise.

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The Bratz rise.

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Let's let's rise to the occasion of talking about this movie.

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I can see Charlie in an underworld spin-off.

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Yeah, me too.

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So let's talk about spin-off later in the discussion.

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Those goddamn Lycans, those goddamn Lycans, man.

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Wait, no James, they're Lycans are the good guys.

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Not the goddamn.

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You sound like a real vampire just there.

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Maybe I did sound like a little vampire.

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I didn't mean it like that.

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Cause I'm just so excited.

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Michael Sheen's back and I also have excited Bill Dias too, but there's a, the evolution

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situation was a little dip.

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It was an unfortunate dip when there was a lot of potential in that movie in the sequel

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that we watched.

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There was a lot of good grace that the first one gave.

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So plenty of criticism that that one had, but going into the second one, it was like,

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now you have the opportunity to get really weird, a hybrid, you know, fucking you lose

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a couple big characters.

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You can do something really weird.

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And it just seemed like it didn't go enough in that direction.

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And this one really is just filling in the spacing and it doesn't reveal anything really

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new, but it just tells a concise, clean, pretty cool story.

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I think I referred to it as the rogue one of the underworld universe and in a certain

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way because it just kind of, it just tells a story that you've always, you know, within

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the past two movies wanted to just see because there's so much little hazy fucking weird

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flashbacks and the first two that are like, I get it, but why do you have to make it strangely

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edited?

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And this is an hour and a half, tight 90, maybe of just telling you exactly what happens

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and you kind of already know what's going to happen and it does.

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And then it ends.

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I don't know.

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Yes.

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One of the most service of all time.

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Yeah.

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That's like, I mean, that's in a way like rogue one really has a lot going for it.

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It's not to worry about all the other crazy star wars shit.

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It's like, no, we're just going to go point a to B. You get the plans for the death star.

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You already knew that was going to happen, but you're just can explore the in between

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of, of getting there and in a world that can be so expansive, those limitations can be

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really nice.

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We got a castle, we got vampires in the castle, we got likens that are, that are forming human

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and werewolf.

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You know, they can go back and forth and then you got the really gnarly like the really,

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uh, I mean, are they called like, or just werewolves?

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The ones that you were barreling through this, James, no, just setting the stage.

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I just like how simple it is.

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I love how simple it is.

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Right.

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Okay.

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I want to just pull this back a little bit.

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This is a, I'm cozy podcast.

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I want to talk to you real quick about prequels and how you feel about them.

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Cause me personally, not, not a fan.

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I'm not a fan of prequels.

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I mean, if I like, for example, if I were to rank the Indiana Joneses temple of doom

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would be the last out of the three, the three, I was going to say the five.

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No, let's, yeah.

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What do you mean?

459
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I don't know.

460
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We didn't talk about this.

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We don't talk about this at the two movies.

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Yeah.

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And then also too, that one doesn't, yeah, it doesn't like feel beholden to anything

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setting up, you know, like I, I get the reasons why you would hate a prequel.

465
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:07,720
And my guess would be a little bit of that, like, well, you're going to see speaking of

466
00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:08,720
star wars.

467
00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:09,720
Oh, yeah.

468
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:10,720
You're Han.

469
00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:11,760
Oh, you're by yourself.

470
00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:19,360
So I guess you Han solo, you just look down the camera like, yeah, you get it.

471
00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:21,040
You get it right.

472
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:22,280
You love this.

473
00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:23,280
Yeah.

474
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:28,400
It feels like it has to like clue you into all that, that shit that just, you know, that

475
00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:33,200
was, yeah, that stuff can feel forced and convoluted.

476
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:34,200
Yeah.

477
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:40,040
I mean, and more so than what I'm saying with the Indiana Jones analogy is I think those

478
00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:43,200
three movies are better than most movies just in general.

479
00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:50,960
But if I had to order, you know, the Mona Lisa, it's like, you know, I would put the

480
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:59,600
prequel last because the concept of going like, I know that it doesn't establish a whole

481
00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:02,680
lot and it doesn't care too much, which makes it good.

482
00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:06,600
And there are things about this movie that I really enjoy that are similar to that, where,

483
00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:10,760
like you said, it being so economical and not getting bogged down and like, we need to

484
00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:17,120
know all of these like houses or how things, you know, a lot of things came to be to try

485
00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:18,120
to relate to it.

486
00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:24,680
It just like is more focused on the adventure, which Temple of Doom definitely is.

487
00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:29,120
But again, just the concept of going like making a thing and then wanting to go tell

488
00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:30,720
the story before it.

489
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:31,720
I don't know.

490
00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:33,400
I just, that is a concept.

491
00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:39,160
It's not something that I'm like, oh, yes, I like my mind naturally goes to that place.

492
00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:40,160
I just saw this thing.

493
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:43,440
I would love to know the thing that came before it.

494
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:51,240
Yeah, it's very, it's very minimal with those little things that are going to be referenced

495
00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:52,240
in the future.

496
00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:57,080
And the only thing I can really think of is the heavy, you know, stressing of the necklace

497
00:30:57,080 --> 00:31:04,000
and how important that damn like necklace is, because that's just filmed with such importance.

498
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:07,520
It's those kinds of things where it's like, you don't give something importance unless

499
00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:08,880
you already kind of know about it.

500
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:11,640
And that's where I think some of the prequel stuff can get.

501
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:16,120
I'm almost thinking of even like Spectre or some shit like my name is Blofeld.

502
00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:18,440
And it's like, oh my God, it's Blofeld.

503
00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:19,920
We all know what that means.

504
00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:26,400
And it doesn't mean anything until you give it the importance that, you know, in the context

505
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:29,040
of the movie that you're making.

506
00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:33,800
And that's where I think that's the closest for me in this, in this movie kind of does

507
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:37,840
that because it's, it does those that flashback thing.

508
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:43,780
And to be in a prequel and get another flashback, we're going pre pre to him giving her the

509
00:31:43,780 --> 00:31:45,120
necklace and everything.

510
00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:47,360
It's like, yeah, no, I get that.

511
00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:48,360
It's important.

512
00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:49,640
It's going to be important.

513
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:54,400
And all the way up until, you know, him holding it at the end and then some forced stuff to

514
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:56,840
kind of clue you into what's going to happen next.

515
00:31:56,840 --> 00:32:01,160
Beyond that, it's like, yeah, this is an important movie.

516
00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:03,640
It's really, again, it's really straightforward.

517
00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:08,020
And I think, I think it, you know, as far as prequels go, and that being the thing that

518
00:32:08,020 --> 00:32:12,040
I don't like about them, this one doesn't do too much of that.

519
00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:16,200
And I guess the other, yeah, another criticism of prequels is just like, yeah, what's the

520
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:22,900
point, especially when it's, it feels like it's coming after like, oh, we've had success

521
00:32:22,900 --> 00:32:30,440
with these other things, let's expand the universe in a way that like, I don't know,

522
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:36,960
the movie that we, uh, polarize ourselves on and very early on in this podcast, you

523
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:44,160
know, we're getting a Mufasa movie, Brandon, you know, we want to see what, how Mufasa

524
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:48,360
came to be, you know, is that, is that necessary?

525
00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:49,360
Like, I don't know.

526
00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:54,760
Well, I guess we'll see, we'll see what happens, but it just speaks more of like something

527
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:58,120
being forced rather than coming up with something new.

528
00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:03,660
We can just tell a story within the universe and have, you question the stakes.

529
00:33:03,660 --> 00:33:08,120
You just question the stakes of, of certain things, you know, and even this movie, it's

530
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:11,240
like, I know Michael Sheen is going to live by the, like at the end, nothing's going to

531
00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:12,240
happen to him.

532
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:15,120
I know she's going to die and I know Bill Nye is going to live too, and there will be

533
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:17,120
put away in some coffin thing.

534
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:20,680
So you know, know those things going in to make it interesting within that can be very

535
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:21,680
difficult.

536
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:22,680
Absolutely.

537
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:29,720
And I don't know if this movie fully succeeds on that level of making it wholly interesting.

538
00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:32,000
One thing I'll say, I'm going to just make a wild prediction.

539
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:36,080
I know this is probably just so, so crazy for me to think that this is how the Mufasa

540
00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:40,520
movie is going to go, but I bet you the Mufasa movie is going to be very similar to Wicked.

541
00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:43,960
By the end of it, Scar is going to be who he is and Mufasa is going to be who he is

542
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:47,600
and it's going to be a total Wicked situation where the whole movie is really going to be

543
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:51,960
about like them being very close brothers and then having ideological differences and

544
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:53,960
going different directions.

545
00:33:53,960 --> 00:34:00,200
Yeah, that's, that's my, that's my assumption.

546
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:05,320
God if there's, there's gotta be, there's probably like new Lin-Manuel Miranda songs

547
00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:07,160
or something that are part of that.

548
00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:08,160
Maybe I'm wrong.

549
00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:10,280
I'm just imagining the Scar Mufasa song.

550
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:11,280
Oh yeah.

551
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:13,280
Like it looks to me the equivalent.

552
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:15,280
I'm a doctorated loving.

553
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:16,280
Unlimited.

554
00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:17,280
Is the Mufasa.

555
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:20,280
No, I don't want to talk about Mufasa anymore.

556
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:23,280
It's going to ask more questions.

557
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:31,760
I mean, yeah, that's just, that's the best example of like a prequel that do we, do we

558
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:36,320
need and there's, there's a whole, whole bunch of them.

559
00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:41,560
And as you said, this movie is not perfect and it begs those questions that we were asking

560
00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:45,160
now of like, what is really the point?

561
00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:51,280
But then once you're, once I'm in it, I'm having such a good time with the vampires

562
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:58,600
and the Likens and then the guys that I like are back and they're just like hamming it

563
00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:01,360
up against each other and having sword fights.

564
00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:02,360
I don't know.

565
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:08,080
Well, what I would say is like the thing, there is kind of this thing about prequels

566
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:15,960
where if you take the good things of the original stuff and expound upon them and make them

567
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:22,480
better, like it's almost like somebody is coming in and understands what people think

568
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:29,040
is funny to a thing that was already created and then focusing on highlighting the strengths

569
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:31,880
of the original series in a way that's successful.

570
00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:36,240
And that's what I think happens here is like what we've talked about in our discussions

571
00:35:36,240 --> 00:35:43,680
for the first two movies was how, you know, practical effects with werewolves, the performances

572
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:50,000
of Bill Nye and like him being this vampire Lord Grey, like these kinds of things.

573
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:55,280
And also to how weak the love story in the first two Underworlds are and how this love

574
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:57,800
story way, way better.

575
00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:05,160
Like it keeps and bounds better to people who like actually are attracted to each other.

576
00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:09,920
So it wasn't really like a hard, you know, necessarily a hard thing to nail or to iterate

577
00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:18,440
on because the first two movies were so poor in their depiction of like a love that that's

578
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:24,280
going to like explode the universe, like this love that's like going to has to happen in

579
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:27,080
order for humanity to prevail.

580
00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:29,920
And it's the actual Romeo and Juliet.

581
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:36,960
It's weird to hear the first underworld described as that when even when they talk about the

582
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:42,480
past and Lucian and everything, it's like, oh, that's, that's where all of this started.

583
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:49,160
And you know, especially when there's a castle and there's two warring factions, you know,

584
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:53,120
and it's just in the behind the scenes, what do they call it?

585
00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:56,120
Extreme Romeo and Juliet.

586
00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:57,120
Extreme.

587
00:36:57,120 --> 00:37:06,840
Yeah, but it has it has the tragedy and it has unrequited love and it has them sneaking

588
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:17,720
around and the original love story between speed men and Beckinsale is never really has

589
00:37:17,720 --> 00:37:20,120
the opportunity to get to that place.

590
00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:24,500
It really is them feeling each other out and then evolution.

591
00:37:24,500 --> 00:37:28,800
It's kind of just way is for it feels all forced.

592
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:29,800
Yeah, no.

593
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:30,800
Well, right.

594
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:35,280
Because the movie doesn't care so much anymore about that so much so that it was so weird

595
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:42,400
at the end of it where the fact that Scott Speedman is a vampire werewolf hybrid doesn't

596
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:43,960
really mean much.

597
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:49,680
It just all it really served was he was a little bit stronger than the original werewolf

598
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:51,020
so he could kill it.

599
00:37:51,020 --> 00:37:52,360
That was about it.

600
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:59,680
There's no implications for him being a hybrid to the broader world and why and why it would

601
00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:04,960
matter so much that Kate Beckinsale because it's so funny to think about in hindsight,

602
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:08,640
like Kate Beckinsale was always on the outside.

603
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:15,120
So there's never any like her getting together with a hybrid doesn't matter because who cares?

604
00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:19,320
She's not exiled because of her relationship.

605
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:23,040
Like in this movie, she's already exiled.

606
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:28,880
The fact that she stumbles upon Scott Speedman is like it's so it has no weight.

607
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:29,880
It doesn't matter.

608
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:33,240
And then on top of that, they just really don't have any chemistry.

609
00:38:33,240 --> 00:38:35,320
And this movie corrects all of that.

610
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:36,320
It does.

611
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:39,640
It establishes why.

612
00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:50,160
What the stakes are for two groups of people like fighting and the intermingling being

613
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:51,160
an issue.

614
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:52,640
Yeah, this movie does all that.

615
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:56,840
Yeah, I mean, you reminded me as well, like to even that earlier point of like something

616
00:38:56,840 --> 00:39:02,120
that I did almost expect after watching those first two and not seeing this one in a while

617
00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:07,840
was having a lot more bread crumbing of Kate Beckinsale's character.

618
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:11,260
And I'm happy that that wasn't a thing because that would have felt forced and pointless

619
00:39:11,260 --> 00:39:12,780
as well.

620
00:39:12,780 --> 00:39:17,280
Although like at the end of Underworld Evolution, that is like a point of like my father built

621
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:22,440
this place or he built, you know, and I is that father in this at all?

622
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:25,680
I can't say that I remember him as a character.

623
00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:29,640
I really thought that he was going to one be the one to make the key or something for

624
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:33,000
Lucian and start, you know, I don't know.

625
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:37,440
I was just surprised that in evolution that seemed like much more of something that was

626
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:47,680
going to be a foreshadowing to a prequel or a pre shadow, a pre shadowing, not a foreshadowing,

627
00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:49,600
but a pre because you're about to go backwards.

628
00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:52,480
And he's going like this.

629
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:58,280
The prison was constructed by my father and I'm having these genetic memories is what

630
00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:00,520
they call them in the behind the scenes as well.

631
00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:05,000
We get truth blood again, again, Brandon and my favorite things.

632
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:06,000
Yeah.

633
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:11,480
I just, I thought that that would keep I can see what would be more of like a kid running

634
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:16,080
around like I'm going to help or like, oh no, my, my family, they're gone.

635
00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:19,640
Now I'm going to be a, be a vampire with.

636
00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:22,200
I'm also going to be like this guy.

637
00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:23,200
I'm Ken Beckinsale.

638
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:24,200
I'm Ken Beckinsale.

639
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:29,560
I mean, when you think about that as the main character of this series, this would have

640
00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:32,800
been the opportunity to be like Bill Nye.

641
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:35,800
I guess there was no time because, because Sonya just died.

642
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:42,120
But then when does he find this girl that reminds him so much of his daughter that he

643
00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:43,800
decides to like keep her around?

644
00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:49,480
Cause that was the whole thing that they presented in the first movies was like, he loved Kate

645
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:56,040
Beckinsale cause she reminded him of his, of his executed daughter.

646
00:40:56,040 --> 00:41:00,680
And that was why he like, yeah, he kept her around, but it was just, it was interesting

647
00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:02,560
that they didn't, they just didn't do that.

648
00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:03,560
I was like, oh, yeah.

649
00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:08,040
You just said, and then all they did was just show cool shot of her, you know, brooding.

650
00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:09,400
That was the opening shot of the first one.

651
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:13,400
It was just, it was interesting that they didn't take that opportunity, but I'm also

652
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:15,280
kind of okay with it.

653
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:18,880
I'm with, I, cause that would have been kind of forced and annoying.

654
00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:19,880
Exactly.

655
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:20,880
Yes.

656
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:23,880
Added more to this 90 minute movie, which is the perfect length.

657
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:26,400
Perfect length for this movie.

658
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:27,400
No.

659
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:28,400
Yeah.

660
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:33,800
I'm really glad that they didn't do any of that because it's unnecessary.

661
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:34,800
Yeah.

662
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:39,440
I mean, the funny thing is, it's like, you know, to the credit of this world is you just

663
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:45,840
put together logically all these things that they provided for you to explain how you,

664
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:50,080
how somebody could be this thing, but they chose not to include it, which is a level

665
00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:52,200
of restraint that I think we should all just appreciate.

666
00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:53,200
Absolutely.

667
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:54,200
Put that out there.

668
00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:58,000
Cause yes, I know that you may want these things, but isn't it kind of nice where it

669
00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:03,080
cared more about not explaining the thing that you could get to on your own.

670
00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:05,520
It just, yeah, it's sweaty.

671
00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:08,760
This one is, um, uh, let's, let's start talking.

672
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:09,760
Yeah.

673
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:10,760
Let's talk.

674
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:12,960
Let's talk to directors too.

675
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:16,600
I feel, do you, did you clock that just in like the overall sound?

676
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:20,520
Cause I even like the, what we're talking, what we're talking about with this extraneous

677
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:25,600
stuff within the story, I feel like that would have been the earlier directors need and want

678
00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:30,760
to be like, no, we got to pepper all this stuff into like really clue people in, uh,

679
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:33,680
about what's going on in a very forceful flashback sort of way.

680
00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:36,480
And this one had, yeah, it did have a little more restraint.

681
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:43,600
It had a more consistent, uh, look, look, even if it is very dark and it is very like

682
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:50,840
blue gray, at least is one, probably the better looking one out of, out of the three.

683
00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:57,120
And what helps that as well is a castle that's just all really one, one setting and you can

684
00:42:57,120 --> 00:43:03,240
color correct in a way that just fits that setting and you don't have to go too far outside

685
00:43:03,240 --> 00:43:04,240
of that.

686
00:43:04,240 --> 00:43:10,080
And I think, yeah, it just looks clean and it it's, uh, yeah, it's fun sets.

687
00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:17,880
It's great, pretty fun costumes and the practical effects are there because this guy is what

688
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:19,500
that's what he was doing before this director.

689
00:43:19,500 --> 00:43:22,040
He was doing all the creating all the creatures and everything.

690
00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:29,480
So you took a real care to those big rubber like in outfits.

691
00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:30,480
I just love them.

692
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:31,480
I love them so much.

693
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:39,320
There's some, it's, it's funny to think about how like the director of this movie isn't,

694
00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:45,400
you know, didn't start off being necessarily a director because this movie clearly is just

695
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:46,880
ripping off Lord of the Rings.

696
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:51,800
This is like the Lord of the Rings effect, like the first two Zealand as well.

697
00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:54,080
Yeah, dude.

698
00:43:54,080 --> 00:44:00,640
The first two movies wanted to be matrix and this one wanted to be and the thing is, it's

699
00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:05,720
like, it's very, it's so much, it's so much more successful as being more like the thing

700
00:44:05,720 --> 00:44:10,800
that you love that this movie is than the other two, because the other two trying to

701
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:14,320
be the matrix was, it wasn't really that successful.

702
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:21,280
You know, a lot of the like, yeah, the tech clothing, all of that vibe, you know, this,

703
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:26,040
yeah, every computers was all just very corny.

704
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:30,440
The thing that was really enjoyable and I'm sure we highlighted in our discussions previously

705
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:34,120
is like the monsters of it all were awesome.

706
00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:40,640
And having that being a more that being like the Genesis of it, like somebody who's like,

707
00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:45,360
oh, the monsters in this need more, like, you know, that's what matters in this.

708
00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:51,280
That's great direction of this franchise because that is understanding actually what was cool

709
00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:57,400
about the first one because yeah, some of the gunplay was cool for sure, but it just

710
00:44:57,400 --> 00:45:03,840
like, it's a lot flatter than when it was like kind of a horror movie with scary beasts.

711
00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:13,120
And also to this is very similar to the opening of the second movie, you know, with it's kind

712
00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:18,440
of closer to its setting being the, yeah, I don't know what you'd say what century they're

713
00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:20,960
in.

714
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:25,600
But that part of the second one was amongst my favorite.

715
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:31,540
I would say, you know, I really enjoyed that whole scene and Sonya is there too.

716
00:45:31,540 --> 00:45:32,540
It's so cool.

717
00:45:32,540 --> 00:45:39,840
And yeah, and that scene was also cool in the second one because it had Bill Nye and

718
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:43,600
Bill Nye really gets this.

719
00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:52,160
Isn't it so cool to see a guy of his caliber like locked in to what this means because

720
00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:57,840
it's got to be such a difficult job because you were playing before we started like behind

721
00:45:57,840 --> 00:46:01,480
the scenes and Bill Nye was talking about it.

722
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:07,960
And the way that he interprets it is like this, he genuinely looks at the situation

723
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:13,080
as being like what has happened, like treats it like it really happened to this character.

724
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:18,840
And so he goes, this is a guy who chains his daughter to a post and then burns her.

725
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:23,480
So he just, he's like that guy can't be down here.

726
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:28,520
A person who is capable of doing that has to be up here and he's able to maintain that

727
00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:36,000
level of being up here and even the like low part, he can go low, but he's also really

728
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:39,080
high too in those low moments.

729
00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:42,760
And it's so great to watch, man.

730
00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:43,760
It's enjoyable.

731
00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:47,240
And it's a really enjoyable part of this movie for sure for me.

732
00:46:47,240 --> 00:46:53,240
The ability to express the hurt for everything in those private moments in this movie too,

733
00:46:53,240 --> 00:46:54,700
I thought was just excellent.

734
00:46:54,700 --> 00:46:58,480
And then when he's in front of other people, he has to maintain the strength even though

735
00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:02,760
there's like a little flicker in his eye where you know that like he has some little bit

736
00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:08,640
of sympathy humanity in there somewhere, but you can barely see it, but you can.

737
00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:11,720
He's so good at just like giving you that little bit.

738
00:47:11,720 --> 00:47:16,800
And that interview was made me so happy because he said, I express a lot of the things that

739
00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:20,040
I loved about the movie and the lore and everything too.

740
00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:23,520
He's like, I love when there's rules to vampires.

741
00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:24,520
I love it.

742
00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:26,720
I love the daylight bullets.

743
00:47:26,720 --> 00:47:30,360
I love when they have to harness the sun my into energy.

744
00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:35,920
I love, you know, it's goes through this list of all the, all the stuff that someone would

745
00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:36,920
laugh at.

746
00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:39,760
And he's so like, I fucking love it.

747
00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:47,080
And taking it very much into absorbing it into his character, into the world.

748
00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:50,480
And that's the kind of person that, that you want in a situation like this.

749
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:54,520
And it's so when I was watching behind the scenes, seeing all this big sets getting built

750
00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:59,640
up and everything, it's like, that's so cool to see, you know, just at a very base level,

751
00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:02,040
the manpower that goes into make a movie.

752
00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:08,040
And then you can see Bill Nye just slotted in to that space and you're like, Oh, now,

753
00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:12,200
now it's a thing like, and that before this is all pretend what you put Bill neither now

754
00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:16,640
we're talking now it's really, it just fully realizes everything.

755
00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:23,160
And Michael Sheen as well, just fucking, you know, ripped, no shirt, sweaty, hairy man.

756
00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:25,960
Oh my God.

757
00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:26,960
How does he do it?

758
00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:28,960
How does he do it?

759
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:29,960
I don't.

760
00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:30,960
Yeah.

761
00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:33,800
It's, I just, it's not like he does any other roles like this.

762
00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:40,640
No, I recently watched a frost Nixon that was being made at the same time.

763
00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:44,320
I never seen it, but there's this little detail where he had to record some audio for that

764
00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:52,120
movie in his a werewolf attire or whatever in his underworld attire, send it to Ron Howard.

765
00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:53,120
Yeah.

766
00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:54,720
A great movie.

767
00:48:54,720 --> 00:49:03,920
I really enjoy frost Nixon and he plays a, a playboy, but he's a, he's a talk show host.

768
00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:06,480
So he's kind of got this playboy nature to him.

769
00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:11,760
And Michael Sheen is kind of a funny looking guy, but he's able to have such a confidence

770
00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:12,760
to him.

771
00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:17,640
That's really like, I don't know, contributes, contributes to this, like leading man energy.

772
00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:23,000
Cause I guess I would just say that you could, you know, I don't know if he would, you would

773
00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:27,320
say he's conventionally handsome, but he has this energy about him that really gets him

774
00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:30,960
to be like, Oh, this guy's like a big presence.

775
00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:33,040
He looks great on screen.

776
00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:36,120
He's confident he's in and whatnot.

777
00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:44,720
And again, it's so nice how much he, like Michael Sheen, like Bill Nye is bringing this

778
00:49:44,720 --> 00:49:53,160
like impassioned and realistic, like not realistic, but like an appreciation for the material

779
00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:55,640
and not trying and like really trying to hype it up.

780
00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:58,520
Like being on board with what needs to be said.

781
00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:04,600
And again, yeah, it's just, it's, it's so enjoyable.

782
00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:10,520
And then in comparison to, you know, the first, the first two Underworlds, yeah.

783
00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:13,680
With Scott Spieman being just a wet blanket.

784
00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:16,920
Yeah, that's a, that's a nicer way to put it.

785
00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:18,080
Cause I was thinking of the same thing.

786
00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:21,240
It's like when you have that big set of people there and everything and you, yeah.

787
00:50:21,240 --> 00:50:26,760
When you slot in Scott Spieman, it just feels, I don't know, not to rail rail on speedman

788
00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:31,760
more like we did in past episodes, but just, just feels like serviceable, you know, instead

789
00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:34,520
of like elevating everything.

790
00:50:34,520 --> 00:50:35,840
Like yeah, right.

791
00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:36,840
Right.

792
00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:37,840
Yeah.

793
00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:43,320
You're having your big dumb vampire where like, like in werewolf battle movie, you know,

794
00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:46,360
set in whatever medieval sort of times.

795
00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:54,280
And it could just be so much more, more forgettable, more silly, more stupid in a bad way where

796
00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:56,440
you're, where you're angry at it.

797
00:50:56,440 --> 00:50:59,960
But there's just an elevation to everything.

798
00:50:59,960 --> 00:51:06,440
And you mentioned the love scene, their chemistry is out of control and it's not a lot of scenes,

799
00:51:06,440 --> 00:51:11,480
you know, you get really important ones that do a lot for you and you, and you can imagine

800
00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:16,040
more outside of your mind, you know, just like, oh wow, they have such a connection

801
00:51:16,040 --> 00:51:20,600
that you know, this has been going on for a while and then seeing like how they behave

802
00:51:20,600 --> 00:51:23,380
and you know, and how they have to keep it under wraps and everything.

803
00:51:23,380 --> 00:51:30,880
It's like, there isn't a point where they over give too much exposition to that or anything

804
00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:35,640
really in general, you know, so much about this, the story they, they give you whatever

805
00:51:35,640 --> 00:51:41,800
crawl at the beginning and whatever sort of narration and then it really is, is just very

806
00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:45,040
clear and direct what's going to happen.

807
00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:51,680
And yeah, meeting in that, in the, in the cool little spot and for, for some sexy cliffside

808
00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:52,680
love making.

809
00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:53,680
Okay.

810
00:51:53,680 --> 00:52:03,120
This was a Psy Ops to you Brandon to just get to talk about the scene.

811
00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:05,400
This scene is so fucking funny.

812
00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:06,400
I know man.

813
00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:12,520
Because like, you know, we just, this is, I don't know, it's just stupid childish humor,

814
00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:18,600
but it is endlessly funny to think about having sex on the side of a cliff where when you

815
00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:26,040
climax you're doing a trust fall and your, your partner is like the weight and the full

816
00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:32,200
crumb and you're like, you're like,

817
00:52:32,200 --> 00:52:37,120
It's like a geometric structure.

818
00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:38,840
It's wow.

819
00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:41,160
What is just visually striking.

820
00:52:41,160 --> 00:52:42,560
I had a bare minimum.

821
00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:43,560
It's hard.

822
00:52:43,560 --> 00:52:44,560
You don't expect it.

823
00:52:44,560 --> 00:52:46,200
It catches you so often.

824
00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:51,920
You're like, no, and their faces are just like pure ecstasy.

825
00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:58,640
And now that I know it's coming, I think it's so hot and so great.

826
00:52:58,640 --> 00:52:59,640
I love it.

827
00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:03,160
I'm just like, yeah, it's sexy.

828
00:53:03,160 --> 00:53:07,440
You can do good looking people slow sultry into it.

829
00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:09,960
Then all of a sudden it's just like,

830
00:53:09,960 --> 00:53:16,880
And the shot down is just Michael Sheen as a big grizzled man, just with the happiest

831
00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:18,880
young boy smile.

832
00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:20,800
He's like, yay.

833
00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:24,920
And then, yeah, that's how we all feel inside.

834
00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:29,480
James is, you know, when you haven't seen that in the comma suture Brandon, it's got

835
00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:35,600
to be something that, you know, it's there's something so there's just something so magical

836
00:53:35,600 --> 00:53:41,480
about coming, you know, it makes you just go,

837
00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:42,480
Oh, yes.

838
00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:43,480
So heightened.

839
00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:47,520
I mean, maybe she felt the conception almost immediately.

840
00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:48,520
Right.

841
00:53:48,520 --> 00:53:51,480
Do you think that the cum has memories, James?

842
00:53:51,480 --> 00:53:52,480
Wow.

843
00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:55,520
I mean, why wouldn't it?

844
00:53:55,520 --> 00:53:58,680
The things that Bill and I must do to get information.

845
00:53:58,680 --> 00:53:59,680
I don't know.

846
00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:00,680
Yeah.

847
00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:03,240
So do you think it's a situation when that happened that she like?

848
00:54:03,240 --> 00:54:04,240
Yeah.

849
00:54:04,240 --> 00:54:08,600
Similarly to what she like, you drinks blood, you know, that when when when?

850
00:54:08,600 --> 00:54:11,080
Yeah, I don't see why not.

851
00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:12,080
Yeah.

852
00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:13,080
OK, good.

853
00:54:13,080 --> 00:54:14,080
OK.

854
00:54:14,080 --> 00:54:15,080
I'm probably.

855
00:54:15,080 --> 00:54:16,080
Yeah, I think so, too.

856
00:54:16,080 --> 00:54:17,080
I agree.

857
00:54:17,080 --> 00:54:18,080
She's like,

858
00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:19,080
What would the memories be?

859
00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:20,080
I know.

860
00:54:20,080 --> 00:54:21,080
Is it different?

861
00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:22,080
Is it different?

862
00:54:22,080 --> 00:54:27,080
It's just it's just it's just moments of him being like,

863
00:54:27,080 --> 00:54:29,680
it's just moments of him just jacking.

864
00:54:29,680 --> 00:54:32,680
That would be my guess.

865
00:54:32,680 --> 00:54:33,680
Yeah.

866
00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:36,680
This is his laundry list.

867
00:54:36,680 --> 00:54:40,440
His life leading up to that moment of every time he checked out every single other person

868
00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:41,440
he had sex with.

869
00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:42,440
Yeah, that too.

870
00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:43,440
Wow, man.

871
00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:44,440
Oh, God.

872
00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:48,520
Um, bodily fluids provide genetic memories.

873
00:54:48,520 --> 00:54:49,920
That's what they called it in the behind the scenes.

874
00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:51,920
They called it genetic memories.

875
00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:55,880
There's a term that's created for it, and it's a big part of this world.

876
00:54:55,880 --> 00:55:00,440
Yeah, it's I would I would go so far to say that you could still consider come to this

877
00:55:00,440 --> 00:55:02,960
to date genetic memories.

878
00:55:02,960 --> 00:55:07,480
That's yeah, that's scientifically what it's what it's known as.

879
00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:10,480
And yeah, it's more of a slang term, but yeah.

880
00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:15,000
God, I can only imagine that that scene with Bill Nye and Tanis.

881
00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:16,560
Oh, wow.

882
00:55:16,560 --> 00:55:18,480
Where is the key?

883
00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:19,600
Where is the key, Tanis?

884
00:55:19,600 --> 00:55:20,600
I know you have it.

885
00:55:20,600 --> 00:55:21,600
And you're a smart.

886
00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:22,600
Tanis.

887
00:55:22,600 --> 00:55:23,600
Tanis.

888
00:55:23,600 --> 00:55:26,600
What do you think of Tanis?

889
00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:33,160
I'm kind of I'm a little bit on Tanis.

890
00:55:33,160 --> 00:55:35,160
It's just such a it's such a.

891
00:55:35,160 --> 00:55:37,160
I think Liz Roy.

892
00:55:37,160 --> 00:55:38,760
Well, it's such an obvious.

893
00:55:38,760 --> 00:55:42,280
Yeah, tropey sort of Machiavellian guy.

894
00:55:42,280 --> 00:55:43,280
Yeah.

895
00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:46,680
Oh, he's just the master of tongues or whatever.

896
00:55:46,680 --> 00:55:50,400
I was thinking like, yeah, like green, my worm tongue sort of, you know, sort of like

897
00:55:50,400 --> 00:55:53,320
skew the number number two guy.

898
00:55:53,320 --> 00:55:57,280
But like the whole idea of a coup and everything like that's

899
00:55:57,280 --> 00:56:01,760
and then like making a quid pro quo quo sort of thing.

900
00:56:01,760 --> 00:56:06,880
It was like a quid pro quo pro quo or something because she like.

901
00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:10,080
He's like, I'm going to tell about you guys.

902
00:56:10,080 --> 00:56:16,400
He's like, oh, well, if you don't, then you can have a seat on the, you know, high council

903
00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:17,880
or something.

904
00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:18,880
And then he's like, great.

905
00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:21,200
And she's like, well, you got to get me something in return.

906
00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:22,200
Like what?

907
00:56:22,200 --> 00:56:24,880
That the thing in return was he wasn't going to tell about you.

908
00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:27,400
She's like, no, I need something to you got to set Lucian free.

909
00:56:27,400 --> 00:56:28,400
He's like, okay.

910
00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:30,400
I mean, like you didn't have to do that.

911
00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:32,400
He's a terrible negotiator.

912
00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:33,400
Quid pro quo.

913
00:56:33,400 --> 00:56:36,400
And he's like, yeah, another another quote or whatever.

914
00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:37,400
Yeah.

915
00:56:37,400 --> 00:56:39,160
Oh, actually give you two things for the price of one.

916
00:56:39,160 --> 00:56:40,480
Yeah, he's terrible at his job.

917
00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:41,480
Yeah, here.

918
00:56:41,480 --> 00:56:42,480
No, take the key.

919
00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:43,480
Take the key.

920
00:56:43,480 --> 00:56:46,960
Also in all, and to this movie doesn't really do him any credits.

921
00:56:46,960 --> 00:56:51,040
And again, maybe this might be something I would like a little bit more is there's no

922
00:56:51,040 --> 00:56:56,480
real drama between ruling parties.

923
00:56:56,480 --> 00:57:00,400
This movie is pretty insular to just what's happening within that family.

924
00:57:00,400 --> 00:57:05,680
And you don't get a lot of like, it's very yeah.

925
00:57:05,680 --> 00:57:08,360
What is the neighboring vampire immortals doing?

926
00:57:08,360 --> 00:57:09,360
Right.

927
00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:11,080
Because we're we're still at that point.

928
00:57:11,080 --> 00:57:12,080
So right.

929
00:57:12,080 --> 00:57:14,480
Like, well, they put Mark.

930
00:57:14,480 --> 00:57:17,200
You see the Marcus coffin at some point.

931
00:57:17,200 --> 00:57:21,600
So he's just he's like the first one that's still under wraps and the only time they show

932
00:57:21,600 --> 00:57:23,800
him is that's the mummy.

933
00:57:23,800 --> 00:57:25,720
Sorry, the mummies under wraps.

934
00:57:25,720 --> 00:57:27,680
But is it Marcus or whatever?

935
00:57:27,680 --> 00:57:30,920
They show them lowering that coffin at the end.

936
00:57:30,920 --> 00:57:31,920
Right.

937
00:57:31,920 --> 00:57:33,960
He's just been in there the whole time.

938
00:57:33,960 --> 00:57:34,960
I think then.

939
00:57:34,960 --> 00:57:35,960
Yeah.

940
00:57:35,960 --> 00:57:36,960
OK.

941
00:57:36,960 --> 00:57:37,960
Right.

942
00:57:37,960 --> 00:57:39,480
And the other like very first werewolf.

943
00:57:39,480 --> 00:57:40,560
Where's that guy?

944
00:57:40,560 --> 00:57:44,320
He's down being locked up as well, I guess.

945
00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:45,320
Yes.

946
00:57:45,320 --> 00:57:46,320
Right.

947
00:57:46,320 --> 00:57:47,320
OK.

948
00:57:47,320 --> 00:57:52,520
Because the the Corvinus person was the first immortal.

949
00:57:52,520 --> 00:57:58,040
So yeah, we are actually like you can even go further back to Corvinus era because we're

950
00:57:58,040 --> 00:57:59,040
in like.

951
00:57:59,040 --> 00:58:05,360
In what has been communicated to us in these three movies is there is a time much earlier.

952
00:58:05,360 --> 00:58:06,360
Yeah.

953
00:58:06,360 --> 00:58:11,520
When like the first vampire and the first werewolf and then Derek Jacobi in Underworld

954
00:58:11,520 --> 00:58:13,520
Evolution was the father.

955
00:58:13,520 --> 00:58:14,520
Father.

956
00:58:14,520 --> 00:58:15,520
Right.

957
00:58:15,520 --> 00:58:16,520
Yeah.

958
00:58:16,520 --> 00:58:17,520
Yeah.

959
00:58:17,520 --> 00:58:18,520
Or he.

960
00:58:18,520 --> 00:58:19,520
Yes.

961
00:58:19,520 --> 00:58:20,520
He showed up in Gladiator 2.

962
00:58:20,520 --> 00:58:21,520
I was like, oh, yeah, that guy.

963
00:58:21,520 --> 00:58:22,520
Oh, was he the first one?

964
00:58:22,520 --> 00:58:23,520
Yeah, he was.

965
00:58:23,520 --> 00:58:24,520
Right.

966
00:58:24,520 --> 00:58:25,520
Because he's the senator.

967
00:58:25,520 --> 00:58:26,520
Yeah.

968
00:58:26,520 --> 00:58:27,520
Right.

969
00:58:27,520 --> 00:58:28,520
Is it Grackus or whatever?

970
00:58:28,520 --> 00:58:29,520
Yeah.

971
00:58:29,520 --> 00:58:30,520
He's like a beacon of coups.

972
00:58:30,520 --> 00:58:31,520
He's trying to get that whole.

973
00:58:31,520 --> 00:58:32,520
He's not.

974
00:58:32,520 --> 00:58:33,520
Oh, God.

975
00:58:33,520 --> 00:58:34,520
He's always a schemer.

976
00:58:34,520 --> 00:58:35,520
He's a little schemer.

977
00:58:35,520 --> 00:58:38,520
Yeah, he's a little schemer.

978
00:58:38,520 --> 00:58:39,520
A2.

979
00:58:39,520 --> 00:58:42,520
Derek Jacobi.

980
00:58:42,520 --> 00:58:43,520
Wow.

981
00:58:43,520 --> 00:58:46,520
Anyway, so.

982
00:58:46,520 --> 00:58:49,520
A2 Tanis?

983
00:58:49,520 --> 00:58:55,520
Now, that's so interesting to think about how the then.

984
00:58:55,520 --> 00:58:56,520
This time.

985
00:58:56,520 --> 00:59:03,280
This is just really about the enslavement of the Lycans and the rebellion of them because

986
00:59:03,280 --> 00:59:06,920
there's so much of a focus of about them and not as much.

987
00:59:06,920 --> 00:59:07,920
Yeah.

988
00:59:07,920 --> 00:59:13,480
About the origin, which would be a cool prequel to go into and then into the rise of the Lycans

989
00:59:13,480 --> 00:59:20,480
but this is really just about their enslavement, the birth of Lucian.

990
00:59:20,480 --> 00:59:21,480
Lucian.

991
00:59:21,480 --> 00:59:22,480
Lucian.

992
00:59:22,480 --> 00:59:23,480
Michael Sheen's character.

993
00:59:23,480 --> 00:59:28,480
Michael Sheen's character and him being able to morph between.

994
00:59:28,480 --> 00:59:29,840
Both forms.

995
00:59:29,840 --> 00:59:39,120
And then they really just take his genetics and genetic memory, whatever, and create a

996
00:59:39,120 --> 00:59:44,560
whole race of Lycans that can morph between the two, but they just keep them.

997
00:59:44,560 --> 00:59:45,560
Enslave.

998
00:59:45,560 --> 00:59:48,720
Enslave and have the chains on their necks.

999
00:59:48,720 --> 00:59:49,720
Yeah.

1000
00:59:49,720 --> 00:59:53,680
Because then if they do morph, then it'll kill them.

1001
00:59:53,680 --> 00:59:54,680
That's what I really thought.

1002
00:59:54,680 --> 00:59:57,600
Kate Beckinsale's dad was like, I'll create a whole bunch of keys.

1003
00:59:57,600 --> 00:59:58,600
He's right.

1004
00:59:58,600 --> 00:59:59,600
Totally.

1005
00:59:59,600 --> 01:00:00,600
Yeah.

1006
01:00:00,600 --> 01:00:01,600
He's like, right.

1007
01:00:01,600 --> 01:00:08,040
He's yeah, he's like the guy who created the maze, the labyrinth.

1008
01:00:08,040 --> 01:00:09,040
Right.

1009
01:00:09,040 --> 01:00:11,840
Like a disgruntled human or something.

1010
01:00:11,840 --> 01:00:17,400
Because that was another thing, like whatever warring vampire factions, but I kind of liked

1011
01:00:17,400 --> 01:00:21,720
the whole idea of the humans and when they come in of just like, you know, like these

1012
01:00:21,720 --> 01:00:28,120
vampires are just taking advantage of them and ruling over them and taking, and then

1013
01:00:28,120 --> 01:00:33,440
they're stuck in the middle between them and the Lycans that just fucking roll up and attack

1014
01:00:33,440 --> 01:00:34,440
their village.

1015
01:00:34,440 --> 01:00:35,880
And it's like, oh, they're essentially vampire mafia.

1016
01:00:35,880 --> 01:00:38,840
Like, oh, you want to protection against the Lycans, don't you?

1017
01:00:38,840 --> 01:00:41,320
So give us all your fucking.

1018
01:00:41,320 --> 01:00:42,320
So interesting.

1019
01:00:42,320 --> 01:00:43,320
You're right.

1020
01:00:43,320 --> 01:00:44,320
Totally.

1021
01:00:44,320 --> 01:00:45,320
Yeah.

1022
01:00:45,320 --> 01:00:46,320
God.

1023
01:00:46,320 --> 01:00:50,480
And the way that the so we do see like lords of the humans.

1024
01:00:50,480 --> 01:00:52,080
I do love this too, James.

1025
01:00:52,080 --> 01:00:53,080
I like that meeting.

1026
01:00:53,080 --> 01:00:54,080
Yeah.

1027
01:00:54,080 --> 01:00:55,080
Yeah.

1028
01:00:55,080 --> 01:00:56,080
Like there's also this.

1029
01:00:56,080 --> 01:00:57,080
Yeah.

1030
01:00:57,080 --> 01:01:02,800
This whole human population that is evolving and has its own, you know, hierarchies and

1031
01:01:02,800 --> 01:01:03,800
whatnot.

1032
01:01:03,800 --> 01:01:05,720
And they have to the vampires sit above that.

1033
01:01:05,720 --> 01:01:09,600
It gives the supremacy to it that's really fun where you're like, oh yeah, these are

1034
01:01:09,600 --> 01:01:13,480
like the super lords and this land.

1035
01:01:13,480 --> 01:01:18,000
And later in the movie, one of the options that one, I don't know if it's Tandis or one

1036
01:01:18,000 --> 01:01:24,760
of the council members suggests is like creating a middle class of, of like, yes, they're like,

1037
01:01:24,760 --> 01:01:32,040
we'll give them a little bit of property and like have, and like, and have like, yeah,

1038
01:01:32,040 --> 01:01:33,040
home of their own or something.

1039
01:01:33,040 --> 01:01:34,040
And they'll be just.

1040
01:01:34,040 --> 01:01:35,960
They can't control them forever.

1041
01:01:35,960 --> 01:01:36,960
Essentially.

1042
01:01:36,960 --> 01:01:42,480
So they're creating this whole cast system and they're trying to do the law.

1043
01:01:42,480 --> 01:01:45,640
Oh my God.

1044
01:01:45,640 --> 01:01:51,280
It's like, yeah, if we, cause if we get rid of Lucian, then you know, they're going to

1045
01:01:51,280 --> 01:01:54,520
rebel, but maybe we just, you know, elevate him up a little bit.

1046
01:01:54,520 --> 01:01:58,840
So it'll give the other like, and something that they feel like they can attain is attainable

1047
01:01:58,840 --> 01:02:02,160
as well as like some version of freedom.

1048
01:02:02,160 --> 01:02:03,160
Right.

1049
01:02:03,160 --> 01:02:04,960
But no, no, totally.

1050
01:02:04,960 --> 01:02:09,320
Like, yeah, it's essentially a mimicking a human history.

1051
01:02:09,320 --> 01:02:10,320
Right.

1052
01:02:10,320 --> 01:02:16,040
And it's this whole, the people rebelling and rising up in that.

1053
01:02:16,040 --> 01:02:17,120
Yeah.

1054
01:02:17,120 --> 01:02:25,400
This movie fundamentally is such a classic tale of, of the underdog, you know, overthrowing

1055
01:02:25,400 --> 01:02:30,640
the ruling class, the working class, overthrowing the proletariat.

1056
01:02:30,640 --> 01:02:31,640
Absolutely.

1057
01:02:31,640 --> 01:02:34,480
This is kind of like the layman's.

1058
01:02:34,480 --> 01:02:37,520
But it is interesting to think about.

1059
01:02:37,520 --> 01:02:42,880
There's a third faction of just humans that are just like fucking seen as, as again, like

1060
01:02:42,880 --> 01:02:43,880
in the middle.

1061
01:02:43,880 --> 01:02:51,640
And then the Likens eventually just convinced them to join their side, which is so interesting

1062
01:02:51,640 --> 01:02:52,640
too.

1063
01:02:52,640 --> 01:02:55,520
Cause I know even in evolution, there's a reveal to be this whole Illuminati of humans

1064
01:02:55,520 --> 01:02:58,280
that serve the vampires and shit too.

1065
01:02:58,280 --> 01:03:00,000
There's so much stuff.

1066
01:03:00,000 --> 01:03:01,000
Absolutely.

1067
01:03:01,000 --> 01:03:08,120
And I, another thing I loved was the nation that Likens were getting like breaking free.

1068
01:03:08,120 --> 01:03:12,480
They would go to a human village and then infect everybody.

1069
01:03:12,480 --> 01:03:19,520
And there's that concept of like this virus that they are that gets out and it just converts

1070
01:03:19,520 --> 01:03:21,240
a whole town into these Likens.

1071
01:03:21,240 --> 01:03:25,520
And that, and it's just presenting such an issue where, yeah, they're like the Likens

1072
01:03:25,520 --> 01:03:31,280
and the humans are becoming, are like more connected than these vampires that sit so

1073
01:03:31,280 --> 01:03:33,240
far above, like the average human.

1074
01:03:33,240 --> 01:03:36,880
And so they're like, yeah, I don't know.

1075
01:03:36,880 --> 01:03:41,680
Indoctrinating people through their ability to transform them into vampires to support

1076
01:03:41,680 --> 01:03:42,680
their cause.

1077
01:03:42,680 --> 01:03:45,520
And that's, that's so interesting too.

1078
01:03:45,520 --> 01:03:50,280
Is like the, there was, I saw it, I thought it was a fascinating scene was like getting

1079
01:03:50,280 --> 01:03:51,600
into how things are done.

1080
01:03:51,600 --> 01:03:53,080
Cause you just have so many questions every year.

1081
01:03:53,080 --> 01:03:55,320
Like, Oh, how does that, how does that work?

1082
01:03:55,320 --> 01:04:00,400
Cause like they were bringing humans in, which is how his buddy is it raise?

1083
01:04:00,400 --> 01:04:01,400
Yeah.

1084
01:04:01,400 --> 01:04:02,400
Raise raise.

1085
01:04:02,400 --> 01:04:03,400
You see him as a human.

1086
01:04:03,400 --> 01:04:09,600
He's brought into this ritual of becoming a Liken put on by the vampires.

1087
01:04:09,600 --> 01:04:13,040
So the vampires are like, we're not going to create more vampires.

1088
01:04:13,040 --> 01:04:19,760
We're going to create Likens to just have more slaves, this higher class of vampires.

1089
01:04:19,760 --> 01:04:26,440
And when raises about to get infected by these just three werewolves, like, okay, next.

1090
01:04:26,440 --> 01:04:27,440
Okay.

1091
01:04:27,440 --> 01:04:31,000
It's a living.

1092
01:04:31,000 --> 01:04:35,200
Bill Nye is like, don't you see the, the gifts that I am giving you.

1093
01:04:35,200 --> 01:04:36,200
And I,

1094
01:04:36,200 --> 01:04:42,520
well, because also to the humans that are brought in like raise or like the, the supreme

1095
01:04:42,520 --> 01:04:44,160
specimens of the town.

1096
01:04:44,160 --> 01:04:46,600
It's almost like they're farming the best slaves.

1097
01:04:46,600 --> 01:04:47,600
Yeah.

1098
01:04:47,600 --> 01:04:48,600
You know, and then.

1099
01:04:48,600 --> 01:04:50,360
It's all like men of age.

1100
01:04:50,360 --> 01:04:51,360
Yeah.

1101
01:04:51,360 --> 01:04:52,360
Yeah.

1102
01:04:52,360 --> 01:04:58,040
You look at like, um, the, in the prison cells, it's all just these guys in there.

1103
01:04:58,040 --> 01:04:59,040
Yeah.

1104
01:04:59,040 --> 01:05:00,040
Well, the lady likens.

1105
01:05:00,040 --> 01:05:01,040
Right.

1106
01:05:01,040 --> 01:05:02,920
That's what I mean.

1107
01:05:02,920 --> 01:05:03,920
What is Lucian going to do?

1108
01:05:03,920 --> 01:05:05,480
Give him a lady like it.

1109
01:05:05,480 --> 01:05:09,960
If you don't want them to be messing around with, with Sonya, your daughter, have we ever

1110
01:05:09,960 --> 01:05:11,800
seen a lady like it at all?

1111
01:05:11,800 --> 01:05:16,280
No lady like it's just a bunch of that's like the fight club thing in the first one.

1112
01:05:16,280 --> 01:05:19,360
It really feels like a fight club because it's just like underground and they're all

1113
01:05:19,360 --> 01:05:20,360
dudes fighting.

1114
01:05:20,360 --> 01:05:21,360
Yeah.

1115
01:05:21,360 --> 01:05:25,640
Just beat the shit out of each other.

1116
01:05:25,640 --> 01:05:30,000
But then, yeah, there's no, there's no, so I guess it's really just infecting asexual

1117
01:05:30,000 --> 01:05:34,280
reproduction of likens where you just, I don't know how sexually a bite is, but it's

1118
01:05:34,280 --> 01:05:35,280
just a, it's just a bite.

1119
01:05:35,280 --> 01:05:36,280
That is, oh, wow.

1120
01:05:36,280 --> 01:05:37,280
That is, yeah, you're right.

1121
01:05:37,280 --> 01:05:45,360
You don't need, you don't need a like a reproduction because you just need to bite them.

1122
01:05:45,360 --> 01:05:46,360
Yeah.

1123
01:05:46,360 --> 01:05:47,360
Wow.

1124
01:05:47,360 --> 01:05:48,360
So then you just don't have lady like ends.

1125
01:05:48,360 --> 01:05:53,640
It's just because a dude's boning down on each other as werewolves or like, but that

1126
01:05:53,640 --> 01:05:56,520
can't be true if they're going into villages and infecting people.

1127
01:05:56,520 --> 01:06:01,540
So I wonder out in the, like in the general population, there must be lady likens.

1128
01:06:01,540 --> 01:06:03,280
We just don't see them in this movie.

1129
01:06:03,280 --> 01:06:04,280
Yeah.

1130
01:06:04,280 --> 01:06:05,280
Or it would have been nice.

1131
01:06:05,280 --> 01:06:10,160
Like when he went to go treat with them at their, uh, at their den, there would have

1132
01:06:10,160 --> 01:06:13,280
been some lady likens like bringing up little pups or something.

1133
01:06:13,280 --> 01:06:17,960
Like, Oh, baby, like, Oh, look at the cute little baby likens.

1134
01:06:17,960 --> 01:06:18,960
Okay.

1135
01:06:18,960 --> 01:06:20,960
Well, idea for a movie.

1136
01:06:20,960 --> 01:06:26,080
I mean that, yeah, that's like the questions that don't need answering cause it's a silly

1137
01:06:26,080 --> 01:06:31,560
vampire werewolf movie, but yeah, I do question like, what's the aging process like, you know,

1138
01:06:31,560 --> 01:06:38,200
like you see Sonia as a, as a, as a child and the same age as Michael Sheen, like they're

1139
01:06:38,200 --> 01:06:43,040
both children at the same time, grow up together, always kind of looking at each other.

1140
01:06:43,040 --> 01:06:47,320
And then they both reach, I guess peak form and stop.

1141
01:06:47,320 --> 01:06:49,960
Cause I mean that is peak Michael Sheen.

1142
01:06:49,960 --> 01:06:50,960
He's at peak.

1143
01:06:50,960 --> 01:06:51,960
He's at peak Brian Michael Sheen.

1144
01:06:51,960 --> 01:06:52,960
So why not just stop?

1145
01:06:52,960 --> 01:06:53,960
Stay there.

1146
01:06:53,960 --> 01:06:56,960
Michael Sheen is peak in this movie.

1147
01:06:56,960 --> 01:07:01,040
Well, I can't, Kate Beckinsale was a child at this time.

1148
01:07:01,040 --> 01:07:02,640
She reveals last movie.

1149
01:07:02,640 --> 01:07:05,440
So she grew up to be peak Beckinsale.

1150
01:07:05,440 --> 01:07:06,440
Yeah.

1151
01:07:06,440 --> 01:07:07,440
Right.

1152
01:07:07,440 --> 01:07:08,440
Stopped.

1153
01:07:08,440 --> 01:07:12,960
Or Bill Nye, you know, it took, he goes a little bit further.

1154
01:07:12,960 --> 01:07:13,960
Yeah.

1155
01:07:13,960 --> 01:07:14,960
That is go further.

1156
01:07:14,960 --> 01:07:15,960
That is peak Nye.

1157
01:07:15,960 --> 01:07:16,960
That is peak Nye.

1158
01:07:16,960 --> 01:07:17,960
If you ask me though.

1159
01:07:17,960 --> 01:07:21,520
That's like a lot of peaks and valleys.

1160
01:07:21,520 --> 01:07:22,520
Yeah.

1161
01:07:22,520 --> 01:07:23,520
That's funny to, yeah.

1162
01:07:23,520 --> 01:07:24,520
You're right.

1163
01:07:24,520 --> 01:07:31,640
Um, Michael Sheen reaches this age and then for centuries, he's going to just be this.

1164
01:07:31,640 --> 01:07:32,640
Yeah.

1165
01:07:32,640 --> 01:07:33,640
Interesting.

1166
01:07:33,640 --> 01:07:34,640
Yeah.

1167
01:07:34,640 --> 01:07:35,640
This is right.

1168
01:07:35,640 --> 01:07:36,640
Yeah.

1169
01:07:36,640 --> 01:07:37,640
It's right.

1170
01:07:37,640 --> 01:07:39,760
And Sonia and everyone just is like, okay, yep.

1171
01:07:39,760 --> 01:07:42,120
We're at supermodel age or whatever.

1172
01:07:42,120 --> 01:07:43,120
Yeah.

1173
01:07:43,120 --> 01:07:44,120
Yeah.

1174
01:07:44,120 --> 01:07:50,120
Peak physical perfection, but Sheen's a Lichen and Sonia's a vampire.

1175
01:07:50,120 --> 01:07:54,240
Somehow they just both agree that that is the time.

1176
01:07:54,240 --> 01:07:58,800
But I like that we're getting a lot about just like that about this movie and the lore

1177
01:07:58,800 --> 01:08:03,880
because when you get down to like the plot of it and everything, it is very straightforward

1178
01:08:03,880 --> 01:08:06,640
and it is incredibly straightforward.

1179
01:08:06,640 --> 01:08:11,480
Cut and dry and going through the beats, you know, is, um, I don't know.

1180
01:08:11,480 --> 01:08:13,840
I found myself really not taking much notes either.

1181
01:08:13,840 --> 01:08:14,840
I took no notes.

1182
01:08:14,840 --> 01:08:17,320
Just like kind of just, yeah, I don't know.

1183
01:08:17,320 --> 01:08:22,240
You turn your brain off and watch the vampires and werewolves battle each other.

1184
01:08:22,240 --> 01:08:23,240
Yeah.

1185
01:08:23,240 --> 01:08:24,760
There's a lot of yelling in this movie.

1186
01:08:24,760 --> 01:08:28,000
There's a lot of, um, cold looks.

1187
01:08:28,000 --> 01:08:34,480
There's a lot of, yeah, just shots of gray, blue structures.

1188
01:08:34,480 --> 01:08:35,480
Yeah.

1189
01:08:35,480 --> 01:08:36,480
It's.

1190
01:08:36,480 --> 01:08:39,040
Lots of towers and stone.

1191
01:08:39,040 --> 01:08:40,040
Yeah.

1192
01:08:40,040 --> 01:08:44,040
It doesn't, it doesn't feel claustrophobic to me, even though it is pretty much all at

1193
01:08:44,040 --> 01:08:45,040
the castle.

1194
01:08:45,040 --> 01:08:49,080
Lucian gets free and you know, they, they are in the woods for, I love how they're just

1195
01:08:49,080 --> 01:08:50,080
like, okay, let's go.

1196
01:08:50,080 --> 01:08:52,920
And they run into the woods, you know, and then they're fast.

1197
01:08:52,920 --> 01:08:56,200
They're going to go rally and rally people.

1198
01:08:56,200 --> 01:08:58,520
And there's a little bit of them camping out in the woods and stuff.

1199
01:08:58,520 --> 01:09:01,840
There's some of that in New Zealand, which is, which is cool.

1200
01:09:01,840 --> 01:09:04,760
And then they take, yeah, he sneaks back in, gets caught.

1201
01:09:04,760 --> 01:09:11,400
I think that, yeah, mentioning the really, the, the tragic scene that you know is happening

1202
01:09:11,400 --> 01:09:12,640
is going to happen.

1203
01:09:12,640 --> 01:09:20,040
But though that is just amazing acting like to for Bill Nye and Michael Sheen, both, because

1204
01:09:20,040 --> 01:09:23,320
for Bill Nye, you're about to fucking execute your daughter.

1205
01:09:23,320 --> 01:09:26,640
And that is like, how do you, how do you approach that as an actor?

1206
01:09:26,640 --> 01:09:27,640
You know?

1207
01:09:27,640 --> 01:09:28,640
Yeah.

1208
01:09:28,640 --> 01:09:38,360
And then in having him be so sad in the room, in her room after it's like, I'm so glad that

1209
01:09:38,360 --> 01:09:43,760
they had that, that moment of, of the execution.

1210
01:09:43,760 --> 01:09:44,760
Yeah, please.

1211
01:09:44,760 --> 01:09:50,360
If you could pull the clip, I would love to, I would love to watch it soon.

1212
01:09:50,360 --> 01:09:51,360
I'm sure you could find it.

1213
01:09:51,360 --> 01:09:52,360
Yeah.

1214
01:09:52,360 --> 01:09:53,360
I just, that scream.

1215
01:09:53,360 --> 01:09:58,200
Oh no, that scream that Michael, that Michael Sheen.

1216
01:09:58,200 --> 01:10:00,280
Ronamitra, I woe, sorry.

1217
01:10:00,280 --> 01:10:01,280
What's that?

1218
01:10:01,280 --> 01:10:02,280
It's her name in bottom.

1219
01:10:02,280 --> 01:10:08,360
I said the Ronamitra's name, the character name in Boston legal instead of her actual,

1220
01:10:08,360 --> 01:10:11,080
you know, her running.

1221
01:10:11,080 --> 01:10:12,080
Just that.

1222
01:10:12,080 --> 01:10:14,880
I watched, uh, how long that recently too.

1223
01:10:14,880 --> 01:10:17,000
She's in a little bit of that.

1224
01:10:17,000 --> 01:10:19,000
She's in that scene.

1225
01:10:19,000 --> 01:10:28,000
Um, but yeah, she's, she's great as a kind of someone who, you know, feels like a Beck

1226
01:10:28,000 --> 01:10:32,840
and sale because supposedly that's why Beck and sales around.

1227
01:10:32,840 --> 01:10:39,520
Cause my thought she reminded him so much of, uh, of his own daughter, but I, yeah,

1228
01:10:39,520 --> 01:10:41,160
this, this guttural scream.

1229
01:10:41,160 --> 01:10:42,160
Just look at me.

1230
01:10:42,160 --> 01:10:43,160
Keep your eyes on me.

1231
01:10:43,160 --> 01:10:44,160
Look at me.

1232
01:10:44,160 --> 01:10:49,160
Do you want to, I can go a little bit earlier.

1233
01:10:49,160 --> 01:11:00,960
And it's, yeah.

1234
01:11:00,960 --> 01:11:14,040
It's really just the image in the first one.

1235
01:11:14,040 --> 01:11:18,120
They do a good job of really enormous creating the scene.

1236
01:11:18,120 --> 01:11:19,120
That was just this picture.

1237
01:11:19,120 --> 01:11:20,120
This is like the mind's hurry up.

1238
01:11:20,120 --> 01:11:21,120
You get Bill Nye weeping.

1239
01:11:21,120 --> 01:11:22,120
Yeah.

1240
01:11:22,120 --> 01:11:50,960
I'm just picturing.

1241
01:11:50,960 --> 01:11:59,080
I'm just picturing, um, Michael Sheen, just going over the script and everything and being

1242
01:11:59,080 --> 01:12:04,000
consummate professional, probably rehearsing, you know, on his own, how he's going to do,

1243
01:12:04,000 --> 01:12:06,800
do everything, memorizing lines and all that.

1244
01:12:06,800 --> 01:12:12,840
And then he just goes to the part where he's like, I just have to let out the scream of

1245
01:12:12,840 --> 01:12:13,840
the most.

1246
01:12:13,840 --> 01:12:14,840
Yeah.

1247
01:12:14,840 --> 01:12:18,720
Just the most, just trash.

1248
01:12:18,720 --> 01:12:23,360
The person you love is lying in front of you.

1249
01:12:23,360 --> 01:12:24,360
That's the thing.

1250
01:12:24,360 --> 01:12:27,640
It's like, that's such difficult material to do, honestly.

1251
01:12:27,640 --> 01:12:33,760
That's why in most of these movies, you just, people don't rise to the, like to the meaning

1252
01:12:33,760 --> 01:12:38,480
behind the words rise of the light.

1253
01:12:38,480 --> 01:12:41,680
And Michael Sheen can, and so can Bill Nye.

1254
01:12:41,680 --> 01:12:42,680
Yeah.

1255
01:12:42,680 --> 01:12:44,880
And it just gives us stuff like that.

1256
01:12:44,880 --> 01:12:45,880
Wait.

1257
01:12:45,880 --> 01:12:53,240
When you know that's going to happen anyways, it just makes it mean that much more to have

1258
01:12:53,240 --> 01:12:59,000
it, have the reaction of, of the person who's the main character in your movie, uh, experiencing

1259
01:12:59,000 --> 01:13:00,480
in such a, such a real way.

1260
01:13:00,480 --> 01:13:06,320
It creates that thing that you already know it's happened real and, uh, and lived in a

1261
01:13:06,320 --> 01:13:12,320
bit more, which for the prequel, I think that's, yeah, the performances for sure is a big part

1262
01:13:12,320 --> 01:13:15,080
of what makes this worth it for me.

1263
01:13:15,080 --> 01:13:19,960
Um, we get the final, yeah, like the final big battles is pretty cool.

1264
01:13:19,960 --> 01:13:22,520
Seeing all those Likens roll up to the castle.

1265
01:13:22,520 --> 01:13:24,880
Uh, a lot of ballista.

1266
01:13:24,880 --> 01:13:25,880
Yes.

1267
01:13:25,880 --> 01:13:30,640
How about the ballista is just like shish kebabing people, dude.

1268
01:13:30,640 --> 01:13:31,640
Yeah, man.

1269
01:13:31,640 --> 01:13:32,640
Multiple times.

1270
01:13:32,640 --> 01:13:34,600
It'd be like, Oh, you get double kill.

1271
01:13:34,600 --> 01:13:35,600
Yeah.

1272
01:13:35,600 --> 01:13:42,080
I just get two people or two Likens and then they create a wall of ballistas shots or whatever

1273
01:13:42,080 --> 01:13:45,400
to stop the Likens from escaping on one point.

1274
01:13:45,400 --> 01:13:48,360
Um, so some of that action stuff is, is fun.

1275
01:13:48,360 --> 01:13:50,920
You get more of the CG Likens at this part.

1276
01:13:50,920 --> 01:13:51,920
Yeah.

1277
01:13:51,920 --> 01:13:56,200
Um, but it's, yeah, still mixed in every now and then you'll get a big guy in a, in an

1278
01:13:56,200 --> 01:13:58,080
outfit and a big like an outfit.

1279
01:13:58,080 --> 01:13:59,080
I love it.

1280
01:13:59,080 --> 01:14:00,080
I don't know.

1281
01:14:00,080 --> 01:14:01,080
I love it.

1282
01:14:01,080 --> 01:14:03,200
I love it too, man.

1283
01:14:03,200 --> 01:14:05,520
It's so silly, but it's just so, so fun.

1284
01:14:05,520 --> 01:14:09,440
And then, uh, Bill Nye getting in on some sword fighting.

1285
01:14:09,440 --> 01:14:11,240
I thought it was pretty great too.

1286
01:14:11,240 --> 01:14:15,360
I was like, Oh my God, he's actually, he's, he's battling Michael Sheen.

1287
01:14:15,360 --> 01:14:20,040
There's a mono Emano with, with him, you know, which I know he, he met his, his end against

1288
01:14:20,040 --> 01:14:23,920
Kate Beckinsale, uh, half, half-headedly.

1289
01:14:23,920 --> 01:14:28,960
And there's a little bit of battle there, but seeing him just scale a castle and like,

1290
01:14:28,960 --> 01:14:29,960
yeah, yeah, yeah.

1291
01:14:29,960 --> 01:14:31,960
You know, with Michael, yeah.

1292
01:14:31,960 --> 01:14:32,960
Oh yeah.

1293
01:14:32,960 --> 01:14:33,960
I love it too.

1294
01:14:33,960 --> 01:14:40,000
It's yeah, there's a, they're just so strong and powerful.

1295
01:14:40,000 --> 01:14:47,360
And we're in this fantasy world and you just have these, uh, yeah, believable actors in

1296
01:14:47,360 --> 01:14:51,080
the, in the scenario and the material and the world that they're, they're, uh, they're

1297
01:14:51,080 --> 01:14:57,640
a part of in this movie and it's enjoyable as hell to watch, um, these sequences, man.

1298
01:14:57,640 --> 01:14:58,640
And then I, yeah.

1299
01:14:58,640 --> 01:15:02,640
And I love the final shot is just makes me feel like a fucking yeah.

1300
01:15:02,640 --> 01:15:05,880
13 year old boy, like, Oh, look at all those likens on that castle.

1301
01:15:05,880 --> 01:15:07,760
Oh, they took over the castle.

1302
01:15:07,760 --> 01:15:09,400
That's such a cool, it's such a cool.

1303
01:15:09,400 --> 01:15:10,400
Yeah.

1304
01:15:10,400 --> 01:15:13,840
They're all like crawling all over and everything.

1305
01:15:13,840 --> 01:15:16,240
And then I just wish they would just end it there.

1306
01:15:16,240 --> 01:15:20,720
Cause this other stuff is so tacked on.

1307
01:15:20,720 --> 01:15:24,600
Like you can have Bill Nye going away and like in the coffin.

1308
01:15:24,600 --> 01:15:25,600
That's fine.

1309
01:15:25,600 --> 01:15:26,600
Whatever.

1310
01:15:26,600 --> 01:15:27,600
That's fine.

1311
01:15:27,600 --> 01:15:28,600
Yeah.

1312
01:15:28,600 --> 01:15:31,560
But the Cape beckon sale brooding on the, you know, for the beginning, it's like, no,

1313
01:15:31,560 --> 01:15:34,800
I know we're leading into the, I get it.

1314
01:15:34,800 --> 01:15:35,800
Yeah.

1315
01:15:35,800 --> 01:15:36,800
I get it.

1316
01:15:36,800 --> 01:15:37,800
All right, movie.

1317
01:15:37,800 --> 01:15:38,800
Yeah.

1318
01:15:38,800 --> 01:15:41,360
I mean, just to watch our new world, you would get that experience.

1319
01:15:41,360 --> 01:15:42,360
You don't need to like,

1320
01:15:42,360 --> 01:15:43,360
You think I'm here.

1321
01:15:43,360 --> 01:15:44,360
Who's that?

1322
01:15:44,360 --> 01:15:45,360
Yeah.

1323
01:15:45,360 --> 01:15:54,200
How many people are just stumbling into rise of the light?

1324
01:15:54,200 --> 01:15:58,160
See that's the thing is that when I was saw it the first time, my buddy Jason was like,

1325
01:15:58,160 --> 01:15:59,160
yeah, she's a big deal.

1326
01:15:59,160 --> 01:16:00,160
She's kind of a big deal.

1327
01:16:00,160 --> 01:16:01,160
Like, oh yeah, she's got these.

1328
01:16:01,160 --> 01:16:02,160
Yeah.

1329
01:16:02,160 --> 01:16:03,160
I've seen the poster.

1330
01:16:03,160 --> 01:16:04,160
I get it.

1331
01:16:04,160 --> 01:16:08,920
Yeah, that's all you need.

1332
01:16:08,920 --> 01:16:11,920
What's that about?

1333
01:16:11,920 --> 01:16:13,440
Shame on you movie.

1334
01:16:13,440 --> 01:16:15,080
Little test desk right at the end.

1335
01:16:15,080 --> 01:16:16,080
Yeah.

1336
01:16:16,080 --> 01:16:19,520
Just a little test desk when you, when you had such good grace with my fucking like kids

1337
01:16:19,520 --> 01:16:20,520
took over the castle.

1338
01:16:20,520 --> 01:16:21,520
Yeah.

1339
01:16:21,520 --> 01:16:22,520
And then it's like, right.

1340
01:16:22,520 --> 01:16:23,520
Yeah.

1341
01:16:23,520 --> 01:16:24,520
All right.

1342
01:16:24,520 --> 01:16:25,520
Yeah.

1343
01:16:25,520 --> 01:16:26,520
Yeah.

1344
01:16:26,520 --> 01:16:28,920
Well, yeah, let's say here's some reviews here real quick.

1345
01:16:28,920 --> 01:16:33,720
You want to take a quick, quick break ski, quick, and then we'll get into some reviews.

1346
01:16:33,720 --> 01:16:38,800
Let's do it.

1347
01:16:38,800 --> 01:16:41,040
We have returned from our break.

1348
01:16:41,040 --> 01:16:45,480
Welcome back to polarize podcast polarizing.

1349
01:16:45,480 --> 01:16:53,600
Are we back on which looks like we're back on Twitch.

1350
01:16:53,600 --> 01:17:00,120
I was skipping some frames earlier, but our audio fans don't need to know about that.

1351
01:17:00,120 --> 01:17:03,920
Be very, very much just a lie.

1352
01:17:03,920 --> 01:17:06,200
But yes, we have returned.

1353
01:17:06,200 --> 01:17:07,880
Welcome back everybody.

1354
01:17:07,880 --> 01:17:16,360
The scores for this movie was a 30% from the critics, say 63% from the audience.

1355
01:17:16,360 --> 01:17:24,760
I actually want to see what the difference was from evolution because yeah, it was, they

1356
01:17:24,760 --> 01:17:30,440
like met in the middle because the critics gave an evolution of 17 and then the audience

1357
01:17:30,440 --> 01:17:32,360
gave it a 72.

1358
01:17:32,360 --> 01:17:36,560
And then this is them kind of starting to agree a little bit more and meet right there

1359
01:17:36,560 --> 01:17:37,560
in the middle.

1360
01:17:37,560 --> 01:17:38,560
That's funny.

1361
01:17:38,560 --> 01:17:39,560
That's funny.

1362
01:17:39,560 --> 01:17:40,560
Isn't it?

1363
01:17:40,560 --> 01:17:41,560
Yeah.

1364
01:17:41,560 --> 01:17:44,640
That is kind of funny where the audience is like, no, we don't like this as much in the

1365
01:17:44,640 --> 01:17:45,640
critics.

1366
01:17:45,640 --> 01:17:48,480
We want, we want a little bit better, but we still hate it.

1367
01:17:48,480 --> 01:17:54,040
It's like, it seems like people pleasing behavior from underworld rise of the Likens.

1368
01:17:54,040 --> 01:17:59,400
But I don't know this as I've said, it does a lot of things for me.

1369
01:17:59,400 --> 01:18:03,280
Let's see what the critics did not like about it though.

1370
01:18:03,280 --> 01:18:10,280
We'll start with Brian Egger deep focused review here on Rot Tomatoes.

1371
01:18:10,280 --> 01:18:15,280
An efficient yarn about an uprising that though we know the grim outcome makes for a watchable

1372
01:18:15,280 --> 01:18:21,480
diversion even if it leaves a bad taste in your mouth.

1373
01:18:21,480 --> 01:18:23,480
So a little bit lukewarm here.

1374
01:18:23,480 --> 01:18:24,480
Yes.

1375
01:18:24,480 --> 01:18:27,640
Robbie Collin from news of the world.

1376
01:18:27,640 --> 01:18:29,480
You'll appreciate this.

1377
01:18:29,480 --> 01:18:34,000
Basically it's Frost Nixon to draw us Vixen.

1378
01:18:34,000 --> 01:18:35,560
I like that a lot.

1379
01:18:35,560 --> 01:18:40,440
And there's plenty to be ashamed of.

1380
01:18:40,440 --> 01:18:43,180
Guy nailed it.

1381
01:18:43,180 --> 01:18:50,280
Let's hear from Eddie Cockrell, Sydney morning Harold, two out of five, the numerous action

1382
01:18:50,280 --> 01:18:58,240
sequences while imaginative lack of visual cohesion that allows them to be fully appreciated.

1383
01:18:58,240 --> 01:19:03,200
Jason Anderson at the Toronto star, a one out of four underworld rise of the Likens

1384
01:19:03,200 --> 01:19:07,160
is as unnecessary as it is uninvolving.

1385
01:19:07,160 --> 01:19:11,920
Only fans desperate to learn how the whole vampire werewolf conflict began are likely

1386
01:19:11,920 --> 01:19:15,040
to get anything out of this viewing experience.

1387
01:19:15,040 --> 01:19:20,880
Well, hard to scream.

1388
01:19:20,880 --> 01:19:26,760
Manola Dargis from New York Times said, Manola Dargis, my favorite little snippet here.

1389
01:19:26,760 --> 01:19:28,800
She said, unlike, I love her now.

1390
01:19:28,800 --> 01:19:29,800
Yeah, I love her.

1391
01:19:29,800 --> 01:19:34,600
Unlike Mr. Nye, who puts on puts an amusing camp spin on his every line and gesture.

1392
01:19:34,600 --> 01:19:37,800
Mr. Sheen appears to have taken his monster duties seriously.

1393
01:19:37,800 --> 01:19:41,940
But you didn't like that Manola.

1394
01:19:41,940 --> 01:19:43,120
She gave it two out of five.

1395
01:19:43,120 --> 01:19:47,440
It says here, I don't have the full review, but that's the little Rotten Tomatoes clip.

1396
01:19:47,440 --> 01:19:51,000
Maybe she felt those performances were at odd somehow.

1397
01:19:51,000 --> 01:19:56,880
I think I think they're both very earnest in their performances.

1398
01:19:56,880 --> 01:20:00,440
We'll do one or two more.

1399
01:20:00,440 --> 01:20:05,800
Clark Hollis, Entertainment Weekly, C Plus, Sheen and I do their best with the material,

1400
01:20:05,800 --> 01:20:09,280
but this is easily the worst underworld so far.

1401
01:20:09,280 --> 01:20:19,320
And then from Ryan Stewart at Slant Magazine, historical events referenced in the first

1402
01:20:19,320 --> 01:20:24,360
two installments of the underworld franchise are brought to life in this passionless, idea

1403
01:20:24,360 --> 01:20:27,360
deprived prequel.

1404
01:20:27,360 --> 01:20:32,520
I'll do this one more from Richard Corliss from Time Magazine.

1405
01:20:32,520 --> 01:20:36,760
I'd provide more detail of plot and dialogue, but the visual palette was way too dark for

1406
01:20:36,760 --> 01:20:38,720
me to take legible notes.

1407
01:20:38,720 --> 01:20:43,080
And frankly, though I saw it at a midnight screening hours ago, the movie just wasn't

1408
01:20:43,080 --> 01:20:46,240
that memorable.

1409
01:20:46,240 --> 01:20:51,280
So this guy, it was too dark for him to write notes in the movie theater and he's still

1410
01:20:51,280 --> 01:20:53,480
awake a couple hours after midnight.

1411
01:20:53,480 --> 01:20:54,960
Go to bed, Richard Corliss.

1412
01:20:54,960 --> 01:20:59,760
You up at like 3 a.m.?

1413
01:20:59,760 --> 01:21:03,760
I guess it was a midnight movie, but he's like, you can't even write it right after

1414
01:21:03,760 --> 01:21:05,480
he finished watching it.

1415
01:21:05,480 --> 01:21:07,320
OK, well, he just he just didn't like it.

1416
01:21:07,320 --> 01:21:09,040
He didn't like it.

1417
01:21:09,040 --> 01:21:12,000
Let's hear what the people have to say.

1418
01:21:12,000 --> 01:21:13,000
Likens rise.

1419
01:21:13,000 --> 01:21:14,000
Yeah.

1420
01:21:14,000 --> 01:21:18,800
Oh, I didn't go through any of my notes.

1421
01:21:18,800 --> 01:21:20,840
I'll do that real quick before we do audience reviews.

1422
01:21:20,840 --> 01:21:22,840
I will not bite much.

1423
01:21:22,840 --> 01:21:25,160
He says raise.

1424
01:21:25,160 --> 01:21:26,160
I love that.

1425
01:21:26,160 --> 01:21:27,160
He said that to raise.

1426
01:21:27,160 --> 01:21:30,760
They're going to be best friends forever.

1427
01:21:30,760 --> 01:21:35,440
We can be slaves or we could be like it.

1428
01:21:35,440 --> 01:21:36,440
Yes.

1429
01:21:36,440 --> 01:21:37,440
That's awesome.

1430
01:21:37,440 --> 01:21:38,440
So, so great.

1431
01:21:38,440 --> 01:21:39,440
Yeah.

1432
01:21:39,440 --> 01:21:41,440
Necklace is a big thing to do.

1433
01:21:41,440 --> 01:21:42,440
Screw it together.

1434
01:21:42,440 --> 01:21:47,720
Oh, when he pushes the two vampires out of the window and they all turn in, they both

1435
01:21:47,720 --> 01:21:50,200
turn the ash on the way down when he's landing.

1436
01:21:50,200 --> 01:21:53,320
That was awesome.

1437
01:21:53,320 --> 01:21:55,440
There's just some bad, some badass shit.

1438
01:21:55,440 --> 01:21:58,040
And I wrote badass in my note.

1439
01:21:58,040 --> 01:21:59,040
Truth Blood.

1440
01:21:59,040 --> 01:22:02,840
Oh, when they both jump out of the hole because they throw in all the barrels with the fire

1441
01:22:02,840 --> 01:22:08,640
and shit and they just like, all right, we got to go and we both jump out and start.

1442
01:22:08,640 --> 01:22:09,640
That was fun.

1443
01:22:09,640 --> 01:22:10,640
Good wire work.

1444
01:22:10,640 --> 01:22:13,480
Bill, my sword fight.

1445
01:22:13,480 --> 01:22:18,600
All the vampires that voted I and the council all had very sassy ways of saying I, which

1446
01:22:18,600 --> 01:22:19,600
I really like.

1447
01:22:19,600 --> 01:22:23,440
I really like took that one line of I like seriously.

1448
01:22:23,440 --> 01:22:28,200
They're like, I, I, I don't like you.

1449
01:22:28,200 --> 01:22:30,160
So you're getting executed.

1450
01:22:30,160 --> 01:22:31,160
So I, I.

1451
01:22:31,160 --> 01:22:36,440
Yeah, sword through the mouth of Bill Nye.

1452
01:22:36,440 --> 01:22:39,720
That was pretty metal, but ineffective.

1453
01:22:39,720 --> 01:22:41,200
Yeah.

1454
01:22:41,200 --> 01:22:44,080
And then the classic prequel line.

1455
01:22:44,080 --> 01:22:45,520
This is just the beginning.

1456
01:22:45,520 --> 01:22:48,120
That's what you're going to come on.

1457
01:22:48,120 --> 01:22:50,080
OK, OK, booby.

1458
01:22:50,080 --> 01:22:52,920
I actually did take notes.

1459
01:22:52,920 --> 01:22:54,920
I'm realizing.

1460
01:22:54,920 --> 01:23:03,600
A couple standout notes for me is early on in the movie, we just see a baby dick.

1461
01:23:03,600 --> 01:23:09,680
OK, let's OK, this is this is good because I want to read this audience review of that,

1462
01:23:09,680 --> 01:23:12,240
which I was questioning my sanity when I saw that.

1463
01:23:12,240 --> 01:23:15,240
I was like, wait a minute, was that a baby dick?

1464
01:23:15,240 --> 01:23:17,520
Not only that, Brandon.

1465
01:23:17,520 --> 01:23:19,560
Here let me let me read this review.

1466
01:23:19,560 --> 01:23:22,560
OK, I'm so excited.

1467
01:23:22,560 --> 01:23:24,080
Damn it.

1468
01:23:24,080 --> 01:23:26,040
Where'd it go?

1469
01:23:26,040 --> 01:23:27,040
Shit.

1470
01:23:27,040 --> 01:23:28,960
Oh, I lost it.

1471
01:23:28,960 --> 01:23:29,960
I'm going to find it.

1472
01:23:29,960 --> 01:23:30,960
I'm going to find it.

1473
01:23:30,960 --> 01:23:33,120
But I just want to have the review.

1474
01:23:33,120 --> 01:23:34,680
Oh, no.

1475
01:23:34,680 --> 01:23:36,040
It's OK.

1476
01:23:36,040 --> 01:23:37,040
Here, here, here.

1477
01:23:37,040 --> 01:23:38,040
Wait, wait, wait, wait.

1478
01:23:38,040 --> 01:23:39,040
Sorry, everybody.

1479
01:23:39,040 --> 01:23:41,480
OK, here we go.

1480
01:23:41,480 --> 01:23:42,800
From Wood, two stars.

1481
01:23:42,800 --> 01:23:47,920
This is not a audience favorite review, but I was just a worthwhile one because I, I, that

1482
01:23:47,920 --> 01:23:51,240
was the beginning of the movie and I was like, something's not right here.

1483
01:23:51,240 --> 01:23:56,680
And Wood says, I shit you not, a mere minute and 20 seconds in the film, there is a computer

1484
01:23:56,680 --> 01:23:59,680
generated baby dick.

1485
01:23:59,680 --> 01:24:04,360
They didn't want to get into the Nirvana problem of it all.

1486
01:24:04,360 --> 01:24:11,800
Like fucking, you know, like how that baby how that guy tried to sue fucking whatever

1487
01:24:11,800 --> 01:24:18,400
people represent the estate of Nirvana for him being naked baby in that in an album cover.

1488
01:24:18,400 --> 01:24:21,440
It's like, I don't know, but it was just such a weird thing.

1489
01:24:21,440 --> 01:24:24,440
I'm just like, what?

1490
01:24:24,440 --> 01:24:28,400
And he goes on to say, can you imagine your first job out of visual effects school?

1491
01:24:28,400 --> 01:24:30,000
You think, cool, I'm on underworld.

1492
01:24:30,000 --> 01:24:32,040
That will have a lot of interesting effects.

1493
01:24:32,040 --> 01:24:40,960
Then they drop the bomb on you that you will be the baby dick animator.

1494
01:24:40,960 --> 01:24:45,040
He goes on to say, maybe I'm old fashioned, but I prefer my vampire werewolves and werewolves

1495
01:24:45,040 --> 01:24:49,160
in a medieval setting rather than his matrix future style of the other entries.

1496
01:24:49,160 --> 01:24:53,160
Now I don't think this is very good, but it's completely the Bill Nye and Bill and Michael

1497
01:24:53,160 --> 01:24:54,160
Sheen show.

1498
01:24:54,160 --> 01:24:58,160
Oh, we need to have the Hollywood Boulevard, Quebec and say, look like it would have been

1499
01:24:58,160 --> 01:25:03,040
fine with just nine and sheen screaming at each other for 90 minutes.

1500
01:25:03,040 --> 01:25:06,560
The werewolf girls are tremendously violent and awesome, but I assume that took up most

1501
01:25:06,560 --> 01:25:11,300
of the budget because I've seen kids on YouTube with more convincing green screens.

1502
01:25:11,300 --> 01:25:17,240
But that I don't, I was like, I wanted, I wanted to know for sure, but I also didn't

1503
01:25:17,240 --> 01:25:18,800
want to research it too much.

1504
01:25:18,800 --> 01:25:19,800
Absolutely not.

1505
01:25:19,800 --> 01:25:22,800
But it was such a weird thing.

1506
01:25:22,800 --> 01:25:28,360
It was like, it was like, it was like that portion of the thing.

1507
01:25:28,360 --> 01:25:29,360
Yes.

1508
01:25:29,360 --> 01:25:30,360
Very generous.

1509
01:25:30,360 --> 01:25:45,240
Michael Sheen's like, you know, help me out.

1510
01:25:45,240 --> 01:25:55,640
Even baby Michael Sheen, you know, I want to like an American sniper or whatever, how

1511
01:25:55,640 --> 01:25:56,640
weird that was.

1512
01:25:56,640 --> 01:25:58,040
Cause they did a CG baby.

1513
01:25:58,040 --> 01:26:01,080
Cause they didn't, I know Clint Eastwood didn't want to deal with a real baby on set.

1514
01:26:01,080 --> 01:26:03,840
I thought it'd just be easier in post and it looks fucking weird.

1515
01:26:03,840 --> 01:26:05,760
Or is it doll or combination of both?

1516
01:26:05,760 --> 01:26:08,000
It's the whole baby.

1517
01:26:08,000 --> 01:26:12,720
Or you do like the Twilight baby, which looks like a fucking nightmare fuel, but just that

1518
01:26:12,720 --> 01:26:15,280
one portion was so strange.

1519
01:26:15,280 --> 01:26:17,400
It was so strange.

1520
01:26:17,400 --> 01:26:19,320
Put a fucking blankie on the baby, man.

1521
01:26:19,320 --> 01:26:21,280
I just put it in some swaddling cloth.

1522
01:26:21,280 --> 01:26:24,400
Does why even go through all of that?

1523
01:26:24,400 --> 01:26:27,960
You know why I call me old fashioned, but I don't want baby dicks in my movies.

1524
01:26:27,960 --> 01:26:28,960
Whatever it's fine.

1525
01:26:28,960 --> 01:26:38,920
If it's just a baby, but why go through post post a fucking, that feels even weirder.

1526
01:26:38,920 --> 01:26:48,720
Yeah, it's a baby, whatever it's, it's dude who cares, but to go through and into, into

1527
01:26:48,720 --> 01:26:54,160
CG, you don't have to, but whatever it's a fucking baby.

1528
01:26:54,160 --> 01:26:58,920
But like to go in there and change it, that feels weirder than just to have, yeah, just,

1529
01:26:58,920 --> 01:26:59,920
I don't know.

1530
01:26:59,920 --> 01:27:00,920
Or just get a blankie.

1531
01:27:00,920 --> 01:27:03,920
Get up some swaddling cloth.

1532
01:27:03,920 --> 01:27:04,920
Yeah.

1533
01:27:04,920 --> 01:27:06,160
So fucking bizarre.

1534
01:27:06,160 --> 01:27:08,960
That said, let's check out what the audience loved about it.

1535
01:27:08,960 --> 01:27:10,160
Five stars from Zoe.

1536
01:27:10,160 --> 01:27:13,600
She also reviewed a past underworld movie of ours.

1537
01:27:13,600 --> 01:27:15,000
So it's good to see her back.

1538
01:27:15,000 --> 01:27:17,320
She's the one who, and I'll do it again.

1539
01:27:17,320 --> 01:27:18,320
Everybody say it with me.

1540
01:27:18,320 --> 01:27:19,320
Lucian and Sonya deserve better.

1541
01:27:19,320 --> 01:27:20,320
Lucian and Sonya deserve better.

1542
01:27:20,320 --> 01:27:21,320
Lucian and Sonya deserve better.

1543
01:27:21,320 --> 01:27:25,280
Fucking hell.

1544
01:27:25,280 --> 01:27:26,280
This movie messed me up, man.

1545
01:27:26,280 --> 01:27:27,600
I have so many thoughts.

1546
01:27:27,600 --> 01:27:28,600
Here we go.

1547
01:27:28,600 --> 01:27:29,880
One, Michael Sheen hot.

1548
01:27:29,880 --> 01:27:31,480
Two, Lucian hot.

1549
01:27:31,480 --> 01:27:32,480
Same person, but okay.

1550
01:27:32,480 --> 01:27:34,200
Three, Sonya hot.

1551
01:27:34,200 --> 01:27:36,520
Four, what the fuck is wrong with Victor?

1552
01:27:36,520 --> 01:27:37,680
I'm so upset.

1553
01:27:37,680 --> 01:27:39,920
Five, this song is called I'm sad.

1554
01:27:39,920 --> 01:27:41,280
So very, very sad.

1555
01:27:41,280 --> 01:27:42,280
So sad.

1556
01:27:42,280 --> 01:27:44,560
Six, you know, like I'm genuinely sad.

1557
01:27:44,560 --> 01:27:46,600
This movie made me cry and I'm upset.

1558
01:27:46,600 --> 01:27:51,160
Seven, I know I said it earlier, but God, Lucian deserves so much better.

1559
01:27:51,160 --> 01:27:53,480
He's such a tragic character and he breaks my heart.

1560
01:27:53,480 --> 01:27:56,880
I just want to wrap him up in a blanket and tell him everything will be okay.

1561
01:27:56,880 --> 01:28:01,160
Eight, there's a severe lack of Lucian fix on AO3.

1562
01:28:01,160 --> 01:28:03,560
Y'all better get to work because I need more content.

1563
01:28:03,560 --> 01:28:06,520
Just saying, especially fix it fix.

1564
01:28:06,520 --> 01:28:07,520
Please spare.

1565
01:28:07,520 --> 01:28:08,520
I need it.

1566
01:28:08,520 --> 01:28:09,520
Fan fix.

1567
01:28:09,520 --> 01:28:10,920
She wants those fanfics.

1568
01:28:10,920 --> 01:28:15,120
Number nine, why are all my favorite ships forbidden love slash star cross lovers?

1569
01:28:15,120 --> 01:28:16,360
I hate it here.

1570
01:28:16,360 --> 01:28:21,640
Romeo and Juliet walks all my favorite ships, especially these two fuck could run.

1571
01:28:21,640 --> 01:28:24,640
Also why does Michael Sheen only know how to play tragic characters?

1572
01:28:24,640 --> 01:28:26,520
I hate it here times two.

1573
01:28:26,520 --> 01:28:27,920
Okay, that's lit.

1574
01:28:27,920 --> 01:28:28,920
Rally it.

1575
01:28:28,920 --> 01:28:31,000
Thank you for coming to my tet doc.

1576
01:28:31,000 --> 01:28:33,960
Wow, that was fantastic.

1577
01:28:33,960 --> 01:28:34,960
She's great.

1578
01:28:34,960 --> 01:28:35,960
Thank you.

1579
01:28:35,960 --> 01:28:37,520
Zoe Zoe on a letter box.

1580
01:28:37,520 --> 01:28:38,520
Thank you again.

1581
01:28:38,520 --> 01:28:46,280
Says gave it five stars and just says Michael Sheen fucks.

1582
01:28:46,280 --> 01:28:47,280
Shy heme of the dead.

1583
01:28:47,280 --> 01:28:50,240
One of the best origin stories for a fantasy horror action franchise.

1584
01:28:50,240 --> 01:28:53,120
Five stars.

1585
01:28:53,120 --> 01:28:59,240
We got a wet Q three three F. I would five stars.

1586
01:28:59,240 --> 01:29:05,280
I would let Lucian throw me off a building, step on me, kick me, spit on me, run me over

1587
01:29:05,280 --> 01:29:06,520
and drown me.

1588
01:29:06,520 --> 01:29:07,520
Wow.

1589
01:29:07,520 --> 01:29:08,520
Okay.

1590
01:29:08,520 --> 01:29:09,520
All right.

1591
01:29:09,520 --> 01:29:10,960
And that said, that's the whole review.

1592
01:29:10,960 --> 01:29:11,960
That's a review.

1593
01:29:11,960 --> 01:29:13,960
Alistair man blaze five stars.

1594
01:29:13,960 --> 01:29:14,960
Okay.

1595
01:29:14,960 --> 01:29:15,960
This is epic.

1596
01:29:15,960 --> 01:29:20,040
Lord of the Rings, but for goth girls unironically like it more than the original, much more

1597
01:29:20,040 --> 01:29:21,120
varied and interesting.

1598
01:29:21,120 --> 01:29:23,240
I'm surely with Lucian gang.

1599
01:29:23,240 --> 01:29:25,120
God, letterbox.

1600
01:29:25,120 --> 01:29:26,920
You're the best.

1601
01:29:26,920 --> 01:29:30,400
Letterbox is the best.

1602
01:29:30,400 --> 01:29:32,500
Hannah driver five stars.

1603
01:29:32,500 --> 01:29:37,760
This is one of the best one out of these underworld thingies.

1604
01:29:37,760 --> 01:29:41,680
Please Michael Sheen's perfect deliver of pain and hot at the same time is incredible.

1605
01:29:41,680 --> 01:29:44,680
Love that for me.

1606
01:29:44,680 --> 01:29:50,240
We'll do one more from just happy to see you five stars.

1607
01:29:50,240 --> 01:29:53,400
I unabashedly love this entry.

1608
01:29:53,400 --> 01:29:58,840
Michael Sheen being all dirty and feral is a core tenant of my sexuality.

1609
01:29:58,840 --> 01:30:03,720
So pretty much all these are just like, yeah, thirsty for she thirsty for she.

1610
01:30:03,720 --> 01:30:05,080
This is a like sexual awakening.

1611
01:30:05,080 --> 01:30:06,080
I mean, it's a thirst.

1612
01:30:06,080 --> 01:30:07,080
It's a yeah, it's a thirst trap movie, right?

1613
01:30:07,080 --> 01:30:12,200
You know, the thirst trap performance, the originals are too with Kate Beckinsay.

1614
01:30:12,200 --> 01:30:13,960
You just get, yeah, totally.

1615
01:30:13,960 --> 01:30:17,120
You know, you get to gaze on Sheen instead of Beckinsay.

1616
01:30:17,120 --> 01:30:18,120
The roles are.

1617
01:30:18,120 --> 01:30:19,120
Yeah, absolutely.

1618
01:30:19,120 --> 01:30:20,120
Yeah.

1619
01:30:20,120 --> 01:30:25,280
Well, yeah, I guess the polarization, it's interesting to see it rise in esteem a little

1620
01:30:25,280 --> 01:30:31,480
bit from the critics and you can see them kind of reference the different director and

1621
01:30:31,480 --> 01:30:34,880
and you know, it being a straightforward medieval tale or whatever.

1622
01:30:34,880 --> 01:30:36,480
But they're just so out on this franchise.

1623
01:30:36,480 --> 01:30:40,320
There's no way, you know, it's I don't think they're, you know, it's clear you're not going

1624
01:30:40,320 --> 01:30:43,920
to ever win them completely back.

1625
01:30:43,920 --> 01:30:45,520
And the audience is still here for it.

1626
01:30:45,520 --> 01:30:48,880
And some of those reviews are people saying this is their favorite.

1627
01:30:48,880 --> 01:30:54,040
So you know, out of the three that have come out thus far within this franchise.

1628
01:30:54,040 --> 01:30:55,040
So it's interesting.

1629
01:30:55,040 --> 01:31:00,840
I mean, it almost feels like even within the audience, it is almost polarized a little

1630
01:31:00,840 --> 01:31:01,840
bit too.

1631
01:31:01,840 --> 01:31:02,840
And spoiler alert, it's also my favorite.

1632
01:31:02,840 --> 01:31:13,520
But yeah, well, why don't you give your your final final thoughts and your rating all Brandini

1633
01:31:13,520 --> 01:31:14,520
meant?

1634
01:31:14,520 --> 01:31:23,320
Yeah, I think this movie this movie understands that what's great about the series the most.

1635
01:31:23,320 --> 01:31:30,560
Yeah, almost everything is better in this movie than the two before it.

1636
01:31:30,560 --> 01:31:36,560
It's I guess I would say it's not like so much better, but it's it's better.

1637
01:31:36,560 --> 01:31:38,560
It's noticeably better.

1638
01:31:38,560 --> 01:31:41,840
And yeah, it's almost every way.

1639
01:31:41,840 --> 01:31:46,120
So for me, I'm going to give this movie an 81 percent.

1640
01:31:46,120 --> 01:31:48,120
Fuck yeah, dude.

1641
01:31:48,120 --> 01:31:49,600
I was awesome.

1642
01:31:49,600 --> 01:31:52,640
Yeah, I agree with all of that.

1643
01:31:52,640 --> 01:31:56,580
And it's what's frustrating is, as I said earlier about the other movies, there's such

1644
01:31:56,580 --> 01:31:58,600
potential with them.

1645
01:31:58,600 --> 01:32:02,640
I appreciate, you know, whatever matrix stylings that they're trying to do.

1646
01:32:02,640 --> 01:32:09,120
But their ability to provide exposition and give you this world where so much lore in

1647
01:32:09,120 --> 01:32:19,040
it is, yeah, is more haphazard and difficult to work within those little bits of exposition

1648
01:32:19,040 --> 01:32:20,720
dumps that they do give.

1649
01:32:20,720 --> 01:32:26,340
And I was extremely frustrated by some of the stuff in the second one where I was so

1650
01:32:26,340 --> 01:32:29,320
excited about the possibilities.

1651
01:32:29,320 --> 01:32:34,160
And instead of giving my mind more things, more things to like imagine and come up with

1652
01:32:34,160 --> 01:32:43,320
what could be possible, they felt more limiting in a way that was frustrating when it's supposed

1653
01:32:43,320 --> 01:32:45,440
to be furthering something ahead.

1654
01:32:45,440 --> 01:32:51,780
And this one, it's OK because it's the past and they're filling in the blanks and those

1655
01:32:51,780 --> 01:32:54,040
limitations make it better.

1656
01:32:54,040 --> 01:32:59,160
And then you get my favorite guys back in it and they're doing everything that I wanted

1657
01:32:59,160 --> 01:33:00,160
them to do.

1658
01:33:00,160 --> 01:33:07,960
The first one at each other, there's a fair amount of them in scenes together and it's

1659
01:33:07,960 --> 01:33:14,000
an hour and a half and it's the most concentrated version of Vampires versus Werewolves thus

1660
01:33:14,000 --> 01:33:22,440
far in a way that's the battles and the action is easier to digest than the first one.

1661
01:33:22,440 --> 01:33:25,440
It was just like groups of guys running at each other shooting.

1662
01:33:25,440 --> 01:33:27,040
It just didn't translate that well.

1663
01:33:27,040 --> 01:33:33,440
When you see like a fucking army storming a castle, my mind, it just lights up a little

1664
01:33:33,440 --> 01:33:35,480
bit more of like, oh, cool.

1665
01:33:35,480 --> 01:33:41,760
Oh, well, I can follow everything and there's still plenty of practical effects.

1666
01:33:41,760 --> 01:33:48,420
And then the change in direction worked well because it looked better and was more restrained

1667
01:33:48,420 --> 01:33:54,800
with those expository moments where I think one wise man is so preoccupied with all the

1668
01:33:54,800 --> 01:34:00,400
little details and forcing them down your throat in an unnatural sort of way, much like,

1669
01:34:00,400 --> 01:34:03,220
you know, the very tail end it kind of taxing on.

1670
01:34:03,220 --> 01:34:09,000
So yeah, I'm trying to so charting my course, I think it was a 72 for the first one and

1671
01:34:09,000 --> 01:34:12,480
like a 65 for the second one.

1672
01:34:12,480 --> 01:34:16,040
This one I'll go right up to an 80.

1673
01:34:16,040 --> 01:34:18,300
I'll do a 79.

1674
01:34:18,300 --> 01:34:19,300
This one's a lot of fun.

1675
01:34:19,300 --> 01:34:21,000
It's a lot of fun.

1676
01:34:21,000 --> 01:34:25,320
And if you're looking for a vampire werewolf movie, you don't even need to see the other

1677
01:34:25,320 --> 01:34:26,320
ones.

1678
01:34:26,320 --> 01:34:27,320
I didn't.

1679
01:34:27,320 --> 01:34:29,360
And now coming back to it, it is cool.

1680
01:34:29,360 --> 01:34:33,600
And I'm still strangely excited for our next underworld movie.

1681
01:34:33,600 --> 01:34:37,520
But this one is a it's kind of peak so far.

1682
01:34:37,520 --> 01:34:40,320
And a lot of that has to do with Michael Sheen and Bill Nye.

1683
01:34:40,320 --> 01:34:42,800
And you know, and they are in the first one.

1684
01:34:42,800 --> 01:34:46,480
And it's just there's so much more happening in that one.

1685
01:34:46,480 --> 01:34:48,600
And you got your Scott Speedman of it all.

1686
01:34:48,600 --> 01:34:51,680
This one, there's just nobody that's like a weak link.

1687
01:34:51,680 --> 01:34:55,240
Everyone is is having fun as including me.

1688
01:34:55,240 --> 01:35:01,700
And the trilogy of the underworld movies, I believe, was what they originally planned.

1689
01:35:01,700 --> 01:35:07,140
But it was successful enough for them to continue to flesh it out and keep going, regardless

1690
01:35:07,140 --> 01:35:11,120
of how polarizing the scores are, which have been for three movies straight.

1691
01:35:11,120 --> 01:35:21,960
So we will be concluding our polarizing underworld series with the next one, Underworld Awakening.

1692
01:35:21,960 --> 01:35:26,800
And then we will decide, Brandon, just to put it out there, there is one more that is

1693
01:35:26,800 --> 01:35:29,160
just a little more poopy doopy snoopy across the board.

1694
01:35:29,160 --> 01:35:35,160
But we could do a bonus app if we feel the need to really finish out the underworld series.

1695
01:35:35,160 --> 01:35:38,360
Or we just do that.

1696
01:35:38,360 --> 01:35:39,600
Don't tell anybody about it.

1697
01:35:39,600 --> 01:35:46,240
For now, we will be doing Underworld Awakening three years later, January 20th, 2012.

1698
01:35:46,240 --> 01:35:47,360
It came out.

1699
01:35:47,360 --> 01:35:51,800
It's another 90 minute fantasy action horror movie.

1700
01:35:51,800 --> 01:35:54,360
The critics gave it a 25 percent.

1701
01:35:54,360 --> 01:35:59,200
The audience gave it a 62 percent.

1702
01:35:59,200 --> 01:36:01,660
So we will be jumping back into that.

1703
01:36:01,660 --> 01:36:08,080
It's one down from Rise of the Lycans for the audience, which was a 63.

1704
01:36:08,080 --> 01:36:15,200
And then for the critics, it's gone from a 30 percent for Rise of the Lycans to a 25

1705
01:36:15,200 --> 01:36:17,560
percent for Underworld Awakening.

1706
01:36:17,560 --> 01:36:21,800
Let's hear this little on premise because I'm curious as well.

1707
01:36:21,800 --> 01:36:27,240
In the years since she and her human Lycan lover, Michael, defeated Elder Marcus, vampire

1708
01:36:27,240 --> 01:36:33,960
warrior Selene, get back in sale, has been taken captive by humans while they waged an

1709
01:36:33,960 --> 01:36:37,680
all out war against both Lycans and vampires.

1710
01:36:37,680 --> 01:36:42,760
Playing after awakening after more than a decade, Selene discovers that Michael is dead.

1711
01:36:42,760 --> 01:36:43,760
Oh, shit.

1712
01:36:43,760 --> 01:36:50,840
But that she is giving birth to his daughter Eve shunned by nearly all surviving vampires.

1713
01:36:50,840 --> 01:36:52,880
Save one Theo James.

1714
01:36:52,880 --> 01:36:58,200
Even Selene seems powerless against her latest opponent, a genetically enhanced Lycan.

1715
01:36:58,200 --> 01:37:00,600
Have you seen this one?

1716
01:37:00,600 --> 01:37:02,600
No, I haven't.

1717
01:37:02,600 --> 01:37:07,440
It's just so crazy that we're going to be dealing with genetically enhanced Lycans.

1718
01:37:07,440 --> 01:37:12,560
It's out of nowhere discovering that your lover with your child is just dead.

1719
01:37:12,560 --> 01:37:14,160
And yeah, and pregnant.

1720
01:37:14,160 --> 01:37:15,160
That's a lot.

1721
01:37:15,160 --> 01:37:16,160
That's a whole soap opera.

1722
01:37:16,160 --> 01:37:17,160
That's a whole soap opera.

1723
01:37:17,160 --> 01:37:18,160
And it coming out in 2012.

1724
01:37:18,160 --> 01:37:24,880
I don't think a lot of good movies came out in 2012, James.

1725
01:37:24,880 --> 01:37:27,560
Let's look up best movies of 2012 now.

1726
01:37:27,560 --> 01:37:28,560
Yeah.

1727
01:37:28,560 --> 01:37:30,000
Or we can save it for next step.

1728
01:37:30,000 --> 01:37:36,200
But no, it's everybody's favorite segment on the podcast where we just Google.

1729
01:37:36,200 --> 01:37:37,200
Just lots of gooks.

1730
01:37:37,200 --> 01:37:46,160
We got Django Unchained, The Dark Knight Rises, The Master, Skyfall, Moonlight's Kingdom.

1731
01:37:46,160 --> 01:37:47,840
Great movies.

1732
01:37:47,840 --> 01:37:48,840
Pretty good.

1733
01:37:48,840 --> 01:37:49,840
OK, I took it back.

1734
01:37:49,840 --> 01:37:50,840
OK.

1735
01:37:50,840 --> 01:37:54,920
Life of Pi, Hobbit, Unexpected Journey, Flight.

1736
01:37:54,920 --> 01:37:57,360
So this is the time period we're stepping into.

1737
01:37:57,360 --> 01:37:59,080
Argo, fuck yourself.

1738
01:37:59,080 --> 01:38:04,400
Prometheus, Silver Linings Playbook, Lincoln.

1739
01:38:04,400 --> 01:38:05,400
Yeah.

1740
01:38:05,400 --> 01:38:06,400
OK.

1741
01:38:06,400 --> 01:38:10,400
Well, this this is bringing me back seven psychopaths.

1742
01:38:10,400 --> 01:38:12,800
Definitely bringing me back to a place in time.

1743
01:38:12,800 --> 01:38:14,440
Perks of being a wallflower.

1744
01:38:14,440 --> 01:38:21,640
Anna Karenina, Cloud Atlas, Cloud Atlas, Brandon, Les Biz, The Avengers.

1745
01:38:21,640 --> 01:38:22,640
Wow.

1746
01:38:22,640 --> 01:38:26,040
What a beginning to the rest of our lives.

1747
01:38:26,040 --> 01:38:27,320
Paranorman and Frankenweenie.

1748
01:38:27,320 --> 01:38:29,840
Would you look at that?

1749
01:38:29,840 --> 01:38:30,840
This is a fun segment.

1750
01:38:30,840 --> 01:38:36,800
I'm just going to look at this movie.

1751
01:38:36,800 --> 01:38:39,800
So this movie is going to be good then.

1752
01:38:39,800 --> 01:38:40,800
Yeah.

1753
01:38:40,800 --> 01:38:41,800
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1754
01:38:41,800 --> 01:38:44,880
That's what that means.

1755
01:38:44,880 --> 01:38:46,520
This has been a fucking blast.

1756
01:38:46,520 --> 01:38:50,760
I'm glad we've worked through a trilogy of a series of movies.

1757
01:38:50,760 --> 01:38:55,960
It's I don't know, pretty special within our parameters of our podcast to work through

1758
01:38:55,960 --> 01:39:00,200
a long, you know, series of whole franchise.

1759
01:39:00,200 --> 01:39:03,920
Because all of our movies can be very different from one another, which is, I don't know,

1760
01:39:03,920 --> 01:39:06,080
one of my favorite parts of this podcast.

1761
01:39:06,080 --> 01:39:11,320
But then we also have the opportunity to find a fucking series that is polarizing.

1762
01:39:11,320 --> 01:39:13,440
I guess the last one was Pirates of the Caribbean.

1763
01:39:13,440 --> 01:39:15,480
We did a series of those movies.

1764
01:39:15,480 --> 01:39:18,160
Having more fun on this one than that one.

1765
01:39:18,160 --> 01:39:19,300
I agree.

1766
01:39:19,300 --> 01:39:24,480
That's another one where like the rules and lore got a little bogged down and all the

1767
01:39:24,480 --> 01:39:25,480
bullshit.

1768
01:39:25,480 --> 01:39:30,360
Because, you know, at the end of the day, it's like, you know, so pirate action, pirate

1769
01:39:30,360 --> 01:39:31,360
fun.

1770
01:39:31,360 --> 01:39:35,760
But, you know, there's certain ones that just get right into the vein, you know, much like

1771
01:39:35,760 --> 01:39:37,360
the vampires.

1772
01:39:37,360 --> 01:39:39,640
And this one does that for me.

1773
01:39:39,640 --> 01:39:41,200
This podcast is it for me.

1774
01:39:41,200 --> 01:39:49,240
This co-host with the co-most is the mandini, the brandini, Brandon Manhattan.

1775
01:39:49,240 --> 01:39:50,240
Back at it again.

1776
01:39:50,240 --> 01:39:53,040
Much appreciated, brother, for another great app.

1777
01:39:53,040 --> 01:39:54,040
Yes.

1778
01:39:54,040 --> 01:39:55,040
Yes, brother.

1779
01:39:55,040 --> 01:39:59,280
If you guys have enjoyed yourself, please join us next time for Underworld Awakening.

1780
01:39:59,280 --> 01:40:02,640
Catch us live on twitch.tv slash PolarizePod.

1781
01:40:02,640 --> 01:40:03,640
We're streaming live.

1782
01:40:03,640 --> 01:40:05,760
This is a Saturday morning cozy.

1783
01:40:05,760 --> 01:40:10,480
Maybe you'll catch us for one of those.

1784
01:40:10,480 --> 01:40:12,840
I think we'll yeah, I'm going to start streaming live on YouTube.

1785
01:40:12,840 --> 01:40:14,600
I think soon as well.

1786
01:40:14,600 --> 01:40:19,480
You can find our YouTube PolarizePod on there as well if you want to listen to podcasts

1787
01:40:19,480 --> 01:40:22,000
that way.

1788
01:40:22,000 --> 01:40:24,200
And rate, review, subscribe on Apple Podcasts.

1789
01:40:24,200 --> 01:40:32,040
Send us a line at gmail.com slash Polarize the pod, Polarize the pod at gmail.com.

1790
01:40:32,040 --> 01:40:39,280
We appreciate you all and awaken with us next time on Underworld, the series.

1791
01:40:39,280 --> 01:40:40,280
Love you.

1792
01:40:40,280 --> 01:40:41,280
Bye.

1793
01:40:41,280 --> 01:40:57,280
Bye.