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Welcome everybody to the polarized podcast.

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Glad to have you back.

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It's spooky season is in full effect.

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This is a podcast about polarizing movies, polarizing movies in the sense of Rotten Tomato

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scores.

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Sometimes critics love it.

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Audiences hate it or vice versa.

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Those are the movies that we discuss on this pod.

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Today we have a really fun episode.

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We got some guests and we got a really fun movie.

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We're talking today practical magic.

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This movie came out in 1998 and the scores for it are 25% critics, 73% audience.

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Pretty interesting.

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But let's get right into it.

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I would like to first intro my co-host and sometimes your program as the forever guest.

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I was going to not say it this time.

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I think last episode we recorded you're like, well, I'm just I'm just a forever guest.

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I'm like, OK, I don't know if I want to keep doing this, but I went off to fart anyways,

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because I love that.

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It's fun.

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But yeah, my co-host James Lindsay.

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How the hell are you?

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I'm the forever guest, baby.

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I always will be the permanent fixture on the wall of this podcast, baby.

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You will be the permanent host forever.

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Wow.

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So like a Dorian Gray situation, I curse thee.

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Oh, like I'm the I'm your picture on the wall.

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Yeah, yeah.

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I don't know how that relationship would work.

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And if you were to ever look at the picture, you would become the guest and I the host.

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Whoa.

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Whoa.

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Man, that's a head trip.

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Very spooky.

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That's some practical magic for you.

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Practical magic.

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I'm excited to talk about what that definition means to people and how it came up in this

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movie.

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Today, I was thinking a lot about bewitched.

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How much practical magic is in that show?

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Yeah, it should be called Practical Magic.

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Yeah, the bewitched show should be called Practical Magic.

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And then you call this movie bewitched.

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Which works.

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I think that works pretty well.

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Either way, I think Practical Magic is a great title.

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I like it.

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I like it a lot, too.

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Before we enter our guests, sir.

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I'm trying to think, is there a check in about spooky season we want to do with each other?

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Spooky season check in.

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Spooky season check in.

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Spooky season check in.

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We watched it follows recently.

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It was still very good.

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I hadn't seen in a while.

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Excited to see what that director does next, if he does anything again, because he did

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that under the Silver Lake movie, which is bad shit.

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And I love it for what it is, but it's insane.

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I'm surprised how much I hated that movie because it's a really big Southland Tales

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guy.

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I thought I would really like that movie more.

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And then it was because it was like a taste of my own medicine of like I've shown people

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Southland Tales and I'm sure they probably felt the same way that I felt under the Silver

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Lake where I'm like, huh?

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What?

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I just I don't know.

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For some reason to me, Southland Tales has so much more funnier things said under the

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Silver Lake might have more funny situational stuff or whatever.

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For some reason, I just really came away from it being like, I wish it was like unintentionally

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funnier as opposed to trying to be so much more of a head trip.

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That's fair.

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They are both singular as their own purpose and what they are.

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I'm sure.

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And I kind of feel that same way.

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But at the end of the day, they are very much their own thing.

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But that is a funny way to describe it, because when I showed it to you, I'm like, yeah, either

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Brandon's going to be really into this or he's going to fucking hate it.

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So that's to be expected.

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And that's essentially the same with Southland Tales of like, I'm sure you've shown that

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you've shown that movie to plenty of people.

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And and I've seen it myself.

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I've seen people watch that whole movie and be like, what the fuck was the point of that?

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And then you do the same thing for under the Silver Lake.

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So it's it's it's the beautiful part of those kind of those kind of movies, I'd say.

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And now it's Megalopolis and we get to go all through it again.

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Yeah, I mean, it's yeah, I'm really hoping that Megalopolis for me lands more like Southland

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Tales than under the Silver Lake.

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But it's really seems like a crapshoot going into it because of how people on, you know,

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movie critics, TikTok and social media, as well as like critics, like professional critics,

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you know, it's.

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Yeah, it's really a crapshoot.

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It's kind of 50, 50 on people being like obsessed with how kooky it is and how.

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You know, serious it takes these ideas that it posits that are, you know, are just so

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But yeah, other people are like this movie sucks and no one should watch it.

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You just got to give it the same treatment of Southland Tales.

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You got to watch under the Silver Lake like 20 more times.

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Wow, man, especially a movie like Megalopolis, that's like what almost three hours.

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I don't know if it's three.

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It feels like it for sure, especially the last act.

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Well, yeah, we'll have to check in.

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Stay tuned for it follows to whenever that happens.

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Yeah, stay tuned for that.

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But that would be incredible.

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you know, it follows is incredible.

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It does so many things right.

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And I have mentioned it plenty of times, but I am I lean more towards liking something

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that.

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Is really good about keeping things like to the idea and not getting to bog down and maybe

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the world building or the need to also kind of comment on a bunch of other stuff.

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And I really just appreciate it follows for being pretty laser focused on like this is

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what you know, it's beat by beat.

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And there are conversations that are interesting that the characters have.

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to them and moving the plot along.

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I mean, effective in being spooky.

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I, you know, watching it again, even though I know, you know, that's which is an interesting

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thing about horror movies.

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And almost to a testament to the best horror movies is since horror movies, if.

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You know, if they don't age well because you know what's happening, so it loses a lot of

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its arms.

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I would just posit that is like that's a sliding off into like maybe wasn't like really incredible

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And it was just OK.

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And now that you just been exposed to like all of its tricks and just sliding off in

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your opinion of being like whether or not you want to watch it or whether or not you

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want to go through that process again of, you know, what the conceit of the movie is.

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But yeah, having seen it follows already a couple of times.

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I mean, I don't know.

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There's still.

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It's one thing in particular that's so cool about it is because of what the concept of

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the movie is, it's.

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It like as a byproduct, which I find just wildly fascinating is it forces you to look

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in the background of stuff all the time, which most people like, unless you've seen a movie

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multiple times, most people are just almost like magic, like movie magic.

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You're so just present in like what's happening in the foreground.

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So the rules of the movie or the conceit of the movie, like force you to be like looking

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just all across like what's going on behind, you know.

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And I think it also does well to like sometime posit people who could be that in the background

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to continue to always like keep you looking in on edge that is that person in the background

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walking towards them or are they walking just normally to wherever they're going.

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And what a great movie.

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It makes you.

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Yeah, it forces that paranoia that all the like that certain characters are feeling in

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the movie upon you and to have them experience it themselves.

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And then you experience it as an audience looking into the movie and doing that same

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thing where these literally slow wide shots that the cuts are pretty purposeful and extenuated,

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not a lot of quick cutting and a lot of like slow like pans around or, you know, rotating

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around the shot and everything very slowly.

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It just forces that this dread, which is some of my favorite aspects of my favorite scary

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movies are the dread of it all.

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And it's also a movie that is a sentence for the title.

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Yeah, got a little of that.

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Complete sentence, right?

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Yeah, it follows subject predicate noun verb done.

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We just got teleported back to seventh grade.

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I love it.

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Yeah, it was a very spooky, scary movie.

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Unlike the movie we will be talking about today.

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Very fun with some very fun, fun people.

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Yeah, let's get it going.

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Let's get it going.

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No more check ins.

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Let's get it going.

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Let's start talking about this movie because I'm sure there's a lot to say and we want

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to take as much time to do so.

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So I'll enjoy them returning to the pod.

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I don't remember how many times it's been, but I want to say probably four or five at

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this point, maybe going into this being the six or somewhere around there.

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But our first guess, I want to intro.

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Welcome back to the pod.

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Kara.

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Hey, I'm excited that you're here.

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You're on mute.

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We can't hear you.

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Yes.

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There she is.

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That was spooky.

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I was like, is that you, Kara?

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Kara, look out behind you.

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A hex or curse was put on you and you lost your voice.

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That's what happened.

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It has nothing to do with the little mermaid situation.

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Oh, it's a little mermaid situation.

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Gain the feat.

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Lose your voice.

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Good pro.

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Dale is old as time.

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Those two things are.

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Oh, shit.

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Uh oh.

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You get a.

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A cool, hunky beast as a boyfriend, but you're you're in prison.

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You're in prison.

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Yes.

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Practical magic.

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Excited to have you on the car.

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You know, while we wait for our other guests to log back on, we could start talking a little

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bit about history, because like it's going to very little is going to come from me on

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this because I just watched this movie for the first time.

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Not to say that I hadn't heard about this movie plenty of times throughout my life,

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but it was never something that I don't know that somebody was like, we're renting it,

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we're sitting you down.

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We're watching this.

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So, yeah, I knew about it, but I never seen it.

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I mean, so for James, we can get into YouTube.

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Cara, I mean, did you see this?

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It came out, maybe even.

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No, I'm actually in this similar.

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Oh, you are.

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I had seen it like a couple or like I had never watched it from beginning to end, but

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it would like pop up on TV, maybe like TBS or something.

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And like I'd watch it like some parts here and there.

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So like some parts I was like familiar with.

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But until recently, I hadn't watched it since like from beginning to end.

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So that was it kind of felt like a new experience for me as well.

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Were there any like defining things about it that you do remember?

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I know there's plenty of movies like that for me that like I caught a little bit on

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TV between commercials or something while I was flipping the channels.

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Was there any sort of or like a feeling that you had towards this movie or things from

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like your friends that would that they would say about this movie that you get from just

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like osmosis, you know?

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Definitely the vibe of it being like a cozy fall movie.

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Like I always thought of it as like, yeah, I just remember them being in the house a

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I remember the parts where they are like outside of the house as much.

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of movie, which it totally is.

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Yeah.

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What you described is definitely the best parts of it is in that house and which I guess

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inside is a set.

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And then the outside was a facade essentially that they put up in Washington, I believe,

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where they shot it.

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But they were warned that it was on native land and to not dig into the soil, into the

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dirt very much poltergeist, Brandon.

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I know you don't fuck with Native American.

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It wasn't a burial ground, but it was land that they said not to dig into the soil.

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So they put a platform above it and just put this facade of the house.

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And then the rest was a set in Hollywood.

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But they just yeah, they make it look so comfy.

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So much so that Barbara Streisand saw this movie and was like, I love that house.

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I simply must have it.

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And sought to purchase the house.

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And she had to be told that it was not it did not exist how she saw it because it was

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just the shell they tore down immediately after it was done filming and then a set,

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a combination.

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But that's just Barbara Streisand at the height of her power.

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Just being like, I want it.

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I totally get it.

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If I saw something, if I saw a house that I liked in a movie and I had that kind of

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power money, I'd be like, I want that.

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I'm going to move into that.

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So totally get it.

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Yeah.

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I mean, that kitchen, like to know that kitchen doesn't exist.

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It's kind of a bummer.

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Yeah, totally.

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Like there's, oh, and then what is it?

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The atrium?

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There's like, well, you trams and then there's a greenhouse and then just the foyer and the

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stairs and all of that stuff.

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Really cozy, really, really cozy.

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Oh, we got our gas back.

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OK.

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Oh, fantastic.

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Yes.

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Oh, yeah.

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Where they have the seance at the end, right?

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Is that kind of talking about that's a nice open, tall ceiling room for to have a nice

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seance in?

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That's it's so funny, though, about the barbers.

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She had been in movies before this, obviously.

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And so for her not to know that fact of like movies don't necessarily work like that.

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They often don't.

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I would pause it is like often there.

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You're not in movies aren't shot in an actual house.

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It's usually just the facade of it and then you then it's the interior is typically a

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soundstage or like a set of some kind.

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It depends.

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But yeah, I don't know movies back then, but I've definitely filmed in a lot of houses.

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Nice.

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OK.

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Yeah.

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And they use the same as the same as it doesn't happen.

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But yeah, totally.

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That could be different sometimes.

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Yeah, for sure.

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But the most egregious example of a movie that we talked about on this podcast that

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has such a clear example of using different interior to exterior is malignant.

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And it's like this really narrow house, old timey house on the outside that they do a

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lot of outside shots of.

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And then you go inside and there's these big high vaulted ceilings and huge open rooms

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and stuff where they're able to do a lot of crazy camera work and everything.

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But that's the movie magic, I guess, can work on even people like Barbra Streisand.

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I can retell that story to the to our guests, but let's first introduce our brand.

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Yeah, absolutely.

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So first time on the pod about this guest.

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Hey, we got Jessica.

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We have Jessica on the pod.

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Hey, Jess, thanks for coming.

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Hi, Jess.

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Hi, Jess.

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Thanks for having me.

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Longtime listener, first time caller.

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So excited to be here.

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He said it, she said that they are first time that's our first time hearing that.

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Yeah.

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Oh, my God.

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Yeah.

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So glad to have you on this pod.

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And talking about this movie, we had just gone through a little bit with Cara about

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like history with this movie.

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So Cara and myself don't really have too much of history with this movie.

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I mean, specifically, we haven't really just watched it last.

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So I mean, you might be our.

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I don't know, resident witch or what?

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Resident Practical Magic person, because, yeah, I think you've had a history with it.

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But please.

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Yeah.

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So this movie has always held a near and dear place in my heart.

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Came out 98.

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I watched it in theaters in 90.

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Yes.

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I remember I was like, I want to see this movie.

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And honestly, I watch it, if not twice a year, perhaps four times a year.

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It's a spooky season like cult classic for me.

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But in the springtime when it's a little too hot outside and I want it to be fall and I

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want to be by the seaside, like I'm like, I'm going to watch Practical Magic.

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I don't care if it's March.

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Hey, you know what?

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For all the seasons.

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It really does.

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It's extremely rewatchable as well.

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And my brief, I don't have a history with this movie.

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And the way that Karen and I saw it to prepare for this podcast was this movie theater down

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the street from us kind of got revamped and they're showing old showings of movies.

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And for spooky season, they have a lot of Halloween movies and they have Practical Magic

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playing.

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So we went and saw it in a big packed movie theater.

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And that was, I think the best way you could possibly see it.

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And we ran into some friends there and they were saying essentially exactly the same thing

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that you just said of like, this is at least at least once a year, you know, during spooky

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season, if not more.

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And to have that memory of you in the theater in 1998, man, I can just only imagine tiny

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little jazz walking out of that theater.

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Just what it what it must felt like.

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Oh my God.

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To Mekyu cinemas, we came to the movie park and I was like, I want to go to see this movie.

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Like.

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What?

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So what about the movie do you think was the pole?

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Was it like Sandra Bullock?

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Was it witches?

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Was it like was there something in particular that you're like, I have to like that really

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drove you to the theater to see it?

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It was definitely the witchcraft, which is funny.

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After watching the trailer earlier, that is my first time as an adult watching it, which

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now I probably would not have spent money to go see that movie.

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Wow.

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They had bitched by Meredith Brooks in the trailer.

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But again, I hold it near and dear to my heart.

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I will pay over and over to watch it every time I will say I own it on DVD.

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Nice.

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That's the move.

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I bet that was a popular DVD.

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It was the witchcraft.

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Who doesn't want to be a spooky witch and have powers and just make things happen?

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Well, absolutely.

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Yeah, absolutely.

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And I think the way that it approaches it, too, and really it must have been like cool,

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you know, like it doesn't make it.

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It's not like Hocus Pocus where it's like really.

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Disney.

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Like all all witchcraft is is bad by and large and evil.

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And it has this more modern sensibility to it because the witches that are doing it are

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like ice and cool and like, yeah, it's not really about like, I don't know.

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I mean, it ends up becoming a lot about raising the dead, which is very, you know, I guess

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this is what I'm saying.

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But there's a lot more to that in this movie than just like a hocus pocus or some type

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of like more scarier movie.

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You know, we'll get into it later.

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But they actually like address it in the movie that it's like, oh, not all witchcraft is

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is evil.

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And they and they and they talk they talk about it very briefly on the different types.

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Yeah, which.

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The lore of it all, I found like the right amount, you know, it doesn't get like super

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duper into like the origin of certain demons and magic and undead stuff.

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It just I think this movie does pretty well to just like this is what you need to know.

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We need to say these things in order to do this.

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And then I guess I would like to know a little bit more about like the potion making of it

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all would be my great.

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It's like I kind of wish that I got a little bit more potion making.

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But you know, I felt like that even when they.

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No, you guys go.

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Even when they set the scene at the beginning, it's like very clearly as Americans like this

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is New England during the witch trials.

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And they're like, you're like, where is this New England seashore?

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These are witches.

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All right, we got this.

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If this were shown to Europeans or something else like in American culture, that's already

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engraved.

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We know exactly where witchcraft took place.

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It's the witch trials and it was normalized in the movie.

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Like everyone was aware of witches existing.

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It wasn't like we what witches exist.

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It's just like, no, they're the witch.

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They're the sisters, the witchy sisters.

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It was just like already known.

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I thought that introduction was was a lot of fun.

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And there was like a lot of like tongue in cheek, like jokes throughout the introduction

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because Diane Weiss, I think that's giving the introduction.

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If I'm not mistaken, and the whole history of the family and the unrequited love sort

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of element of the magic as well, how that's kind of the curse upon the family.

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And I like the blaming of like of men for all their problems on, you know, on the witches.

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And that's how like the like, I don't know, just that kind of that humor that is starting

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right from the beginning, like it kind of goes throughout, I think is a nice addition

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to to the magic.

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I think the movie also from the start is.

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It's just like it makes women cool and like explains like their motives.

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And like, I can just imagine like young girls being so attracted to this movie because it's

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like the women in it from the jump, you know, this woman's getting hanged.

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But then she just like breaks out of it and then like everybody's like, oh, shit, afraid

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of her.

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And my understanding is like she does get like outcast or whatever.

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But she like immediately like tells everybody to kind of go fuck themselves and like it

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has the power and like takes her power and, you know, rewrite some of her history, even

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though there ends up being this curse, which in itself, I find really, I don't know, fascinating

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the idea of.

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It's not necessarily like men are bad.

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It's like, what would you say it like?

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Like what the curse like is trying to say or like what the point of it is communicating

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some idea of maybe relationships or just how you might look at relationships, because I

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think the idea that falling in love, like you can't do that.

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And so it's for like then it is representative in the ends of like these women have never

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fallen in love, but they got so much of their own shit going on.

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And it's not like they're like.

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They're not that bitter about it.

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They accepted their fate given the lineage that they come from, and they kind of made

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the best wife for themselves out of it or like in spite of it.

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You know, it's just it's it's kind of ends up being just like a pitfall that you could,

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you know, succumb to because you end up falling in love.

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But often it just seems like even the falling in love has some like there's a little bit

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of manipulation there of like when the guys show up, I'll actually fall in love with them

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and all of that stuff.

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And it's just it's really all of those rules, or at least what it's trying to say, I find

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really I don't know, could be it's an interesting approach.

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It's a really interesting approach to I think I think you bring up something really interesting.

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Like as a kid watching, it was definitely topical on like witchcraft.

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And then I watched it again as a teenager and you kind of pick up on like the bad boy

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romance.

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And then as an as more of an adult in your 20s, like you bring up a good point that the

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lens is more focused on women and that romance and partners are secondary.

473
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Sure.

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Yeah.

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Because because they're going to die if they fall in love with you.

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Like which that that is like such a juicy kind of like result of this of the characters

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can't fall in love.

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So it's like there's this tension or this this conflict that's happening where you're

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like you don't want your main character to fall in love as opposed to the stereotypical

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like, you know, romance movie or whatever is it's about, you know, a guy coming in and

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sweeping her off her feet.

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And it's I don't know, there's like an edge to it that I find really interesting.

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And I found it pretty enjoyable.

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You're like, oh, don't fall in love.

485
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Don't fall in love.

486
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And then the second she does, you're like, well, this is going to end terribly.

487
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Yeah.

488
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Yeah.

489
00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:45,640
I like that was what I enjoyed the most out of this movie.

490
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:51,800
Like I I was so drawn to the sisterhood and the coven aspect of it all.

491
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:52,800
More so than the romance.

492
00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:54,800
Like I could care less about the romance.

493
00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:58,120
Like I mean, it's cute, but like I agree with Jassica.

494
00:27:58,120 --> 00:28:01,760
I think maybe when I was younger, I would have been more drawn to like the romance and

495
00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:03,640
the aspect of it.

496
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:10,320
But like as an adult, you know, as as we get busy and we just like it's harder to see like

497
00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:15,520
our friends and everything in our family, like just that.

498
00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:21,360
Like the parts that I was like crying was when like the women were together when when

499
00:28:21,360 --> 00:28:28,520
Sandra Bullock and what's her name were together and they had that like sisterhood.

500
00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:35,600
And yeah, I'm like, it's good to maintain those those bonds and like, yeah, maybe your

501
00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:40,040
romantic partners fall relationships fall apart.

502
00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:41,360
But then you always have your coven.

503
00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:46,640
You always have your like sisterhood or like your your chosen family around.

504
00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:48,960
And that they're the ones that are going to support you.

505
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:53,960
And that's what I was like kind of drawn most to in this movie, like even more so over the

506
00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:56,080
witchcraft, which like I love witchy things.

507
00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:59,040
I'm all about witchcraft and casting spells and all that.

508
00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:04,440
But I was like, oh, my God, I love like the coven aspect of this movie so much more.

509
00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:07,640
Oh, yeah, I think I agree with you.

510
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:09,600
Yeah, it's the layers, right?

511
00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:12,600
Like younger, it was the witchcraft, it was the romance.

512
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:16,320
Now it's like how the sisters show up for each other in different ways.

513
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:19,680
Like I love when Nicole Kidman comes in for the PTA scene.

514
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:23,160
Yes. Like it's a different type of support.

515
00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:28,040
And then ultimately at the end with the coven coming together, especially when for so long

516
00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:29,600
like they were others.

517
00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:31,960
And now it's like we're bringing you in.

518
00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:33,720
Yeah, it's like the girls bathroom.

519
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:35,240
It's the most important place.

520
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:36,240
Absolutely.

521
00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:39,280
That's my favorite.

522
00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:40,360
That's what I get out of it.

523
00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:41,520
Yeah. Yeah.

524
00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:47,720
And I feel like plenty of other movies would do this.

525
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:52,720
Like fall into this trap of there needs to be more of a conflict between the sisters.

526
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:56,920
And that's really never like they're not really at odds with each other.

527
00:29:56,920 --> 00:30:01,520
Like they're they're in trouble themselves individually.

528
00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:06,000
There's not really a lot of like inner fighting between the sisters at all.

529
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:08,680
Like I would almost argue, I don't think there's really any.

530
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:14,720
It's just like more of like concern and like wanting to show up for you and try to help

531
00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:20,600
you rather than, you know, Nicole Kidman go because of her lifestyle.

532
00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:25,080
Like, yes, seems like Sandra Bullock isn't even like that.

533
00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:31,240
I don't know, like Madden Nicole Kidman about her lifestyle that she's living.

534
00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:34,720
She just shows up because she needs to help her.

535
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:38,880
And then they just help each other and work their way through it.

536
00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:41,720
It's really. Yeah, it's really quite wonderful.

537
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:43,320
Like they represent each other.

538
00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:46,560
It's quite wonderful. They recognize each other's differences.

539
00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:47,800
And that's very special.

540
00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:51,120
It's like you can still recognize that, like you are different.

541
00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:55,320
But then there's still that bond between you and like no matter what happens,

542
00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:58,000
like you could not see each other for like years.

543
00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:00,360
There's still going to be that special bond at the end of the day.

544
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:02,680
And like that's what keeps them together.

545
00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:05,280
And I think that's really special because that's also another thing.

546
00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:10,920
Like as you get older, maybe you you and your closest friends when you're younger,

547
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:13,840
don't share similar interests, but like there's still something

548
00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:17,400
that kind of holds you together, like whether it's the past,

549
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:19,440
like things that you've gone through together in the past.

550
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:24,040
But like you can also recognize like, oh, we're different people now, too.

551
00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:27,960
Like if we had met now, I don't know if we would have been friends,

552
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:32,680
but there's still something between us that keeps us in each other's lives.

553
00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:35,080
And we care for each other on a different level.

554
00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:37,520
I love that from a structural standpoint for the movie.

555
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:41,000
And so there's plenty of times that happens in especially like a duo

556
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:43,480
in any sort of movie, like if there's going to be a conflict,

557
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:45,120
there might be a big fallout between them.

558
00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:47,120
And there's sometimes where that just falls flat for me.

559
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:48,760
I'm like, well, I know they're going to get back together

560
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:50,480
for the third act or whatever.

561
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:55,040
And I do appreciate how this one not only has that understood

562
00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:59,400
sisterhood and bond between them, that's unbreakable,

563
00:31:59,920 --> 00:32:02,840
but just that you show there them as children.

564
00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:06,960
It's not necessarily a coming, a coming of age story.

565
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:10,680
It kind of moves right to them being adults and having adult issues

566
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:13,760
and living their own lives and their own lifestyle.

567
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:18,000
And the fact that they are accepting of each other's ways of lives

568
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:22,400
and how different they are is just more of an adult way of the movie

569
00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:25,040
handling itself and the characters as well.

570
00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:30,600
And then as far as the conflict goes, it's never they have their disagreements

571
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:33,840
about methods and how they want to do something, but it never reaches

572
00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:36,120
that full point where they have a have a falling out.

573
00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:38,360
And I think that would have been a waste of time.

574
00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:43,720
And the only time there is a fallout is with their aunts, which is hilarious.

575
00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:45,720
We're so there's like you guys fucking started this.

576
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:48,640
You can figure it the hell out, you know, and they just go

577
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:50,520
and then they have to come back like, oh, you saw it.

578
00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:54,200
OK, we got to pick up the pieces and, you know, finish it.

579
00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:56,200
And they're like, well, do anything.

580
00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:59,480
And I just that and that respect for the elders is more

581
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:01,320
what's about at that point. I love that.

582
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:06,040
In that same vein of like the sisterhoods, you can see the generation

583
00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:08,920
of like the two aunts have each other's back.

584
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:12,760
Like Sandra Buck and Nicole Kidman, they have each other's backs.

585
00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:15,200
The daughters like and I love the black.

586
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:19,200
I think of it as black cat, orange cat vibes for each of the generations.

587
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:22,920
And even like when the little girls have decided

588
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:27,040
that they want to keep this love interest around and they throw the maple syrup.

589
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:29,160
It's like we're in on this together.

590
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:31,240
Like the sisters are always bonded together.

591
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:33,160
And I love that. Yeah.

592
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:37,960
And the way that sometimes it just comes out without even having to build it up

593
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:40,320
in any sort of way when they are in the car

594
00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:44,880
and they are in deep trouble with Dracula, cowboy Dracula.

595
00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:48,120
And she there's they just do it visually.

596
00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:51,480
She looks in the mirror and she's like, I have the what do you call it?

597
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:53,840
The belladonna, whatever the poison stuff.

598
00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:55,440
I have it in my person.

599
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:57,760
You just just in a moment where they look at each other in the eye

600
00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:00,640
through the mirror and they have that telepathic connection.

601
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:03,240
And the way that that just comes comes across as.

602
00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:04,720
Yeah, I know.

603
00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:06,800
Like the little practical magic moments are great.

604
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:10,320
But that's also so like.

605
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:15,040
Normal and real relationships, too, like I'm sure you, James, you and Brandon

606
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:18,280
can just look at each other and you know what the other person's thinking,

607
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:21,920
like just from a look, like when you're really close with someone, you can just.

608
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:27,000
They you can just read each other's minds, and that's that's not like magic

609
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:31,160
or anything that's just like also part of like everyday life.

610
00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:33,120
It's magic. It's practical.

611
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:35,280
It's it's practically magic.

612
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:36,080
Right. Yeah.

613
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:37,160
It's actually magic.

614
00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:38,960
Well, I love that.

615
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:39,520
Yeah.

616
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:45,120
To talk about the well, OK, first off, I want to ask everybody, which

617
00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:48,560
which do they are they out of the two?

618
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:51,120
Let's let's just do just Sandra Bullock and Nicole Kimber.

619
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:54,600
Which which are you are which which is which? Yeah.

620
00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:56,680
You want to start off, Brandon?

621
00:34:57,240 --> 00:34:59,280
Yeah, I'm definitely Nicole Kidman.

622
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:02,680
I'm for sure, Nicole Kidman.

623
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:04,480
I yeah, I don't know.

624
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:06,520
It's like that.

625
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:12,120
I think her journey in self discovery and her like

626
00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:15,880
kind of pursuits and the way that she approaches it,

627
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:23,000
I find, yeah, I find that free spirit in nature more my speed and

628
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:29,760
and yeah, I guess I would say Nicole for me.

629
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:37,040
Cara, I think if it was a spectrum,

630
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:40,040
I'd lean more towards Sandra Bullock,

631
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:43,720
but I think I'm a little more spicier than that.

632
00:35:43,720 --> 00:35:50,240
Like I do also crave like spontaneity and venture and not always going by the books.

633
00:35:50,240 --> 00:35:56,160
But I I think I do tend to lean a little more Sandra Bullock.

634
00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:01,440
But I'm not necessarily like I would want to be Nicole Kidman.

635
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:04,880
That's the thing is just naturally my natural state.

636
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:07,760
I think I lean more towards Sandra Bullock.

637
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:10,640
So that's it. I'm on the spectrum.

638
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:17,360
Shame. How about you, Jess?

639
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:21,040
I think in the same in Karis, kind of same vein,

640
00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:25,040
I would say I used to be leaning a little bit more Nicole Kidman.

641
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:28,440
And as I've gotten older, I am now leaning a little more.

642
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:30,640
It's Andrew Bullock.

643
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:32,080
I appreciate that sentiment.

644
00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:36,680
I think I'm I'm right there with you where you might find me more sitting,

645
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:43,440
you know, mixing my tea with my magic instead of running around doing

646
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:45,280
doing more hardcore stuff.

647
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:49,200
But. Which is never really a problem with that,

648
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:53,720
which I think I had mentioned before, maybe to you, James,

649
00:36:53,720 --> 00:36:58,160
but just to talk about like the rating of this and also like,

650
00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:05,280
I think it does really well to ride that line of like as like

651
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:08,520
if you're seeing this movie and you're like 10 or 11,

652
00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:13,080
you're you're definitely in that headspace of like looking up

653
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:16,400
to like adult stuff as being really attractive and be like,

654
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:19,200
oh, they got, you know, they can do their own thing.

655
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:21,600
Man, that pool party looks like a lot of fun.

656
00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:24,800
That pool party. And there's parents.

657
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:32,640
But there's like heavy stuff in this.

658
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:38,360
But in like kind of a tactful way, I was surprised because I like

659
00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:41,000
when, for example,

660
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:45,000
when the center bullet goes to the Cole Kidman's

661
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:48,400
hotel room,

662
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:52,440
it's the Cole Kidman is definitely giving a performance of

663
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:54,600
she's like kind of strung out.

664
00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:56,600
She's really like,

665
00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:01,000
yeah, kind of in the wrapped up in

666
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:06,600
in almost like a drug binge or or, you know, something to that effect.

667
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:09,200
That's never ever communicated.

668
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:11,600
That's never ever communicated at all.

669
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:13,800
It really is just like

670
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:18,680
it goes so far to say she's really sad and she has this problem with this guy.

671
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:21,400
And that's about the extent of it.

672
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:27,080
And then at the pool party, it's not like I don't think anybody's even really drinking.

673
00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:28,480
It's literally just people.

674
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:30,680
They have. I just remember you should have

675
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:33,600
glass bottles next to that pool.

676
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:35,080
That's all I remember that they were drinking.

677
00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:37,600
So there was a beer in there.

678
00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:39,680
That's where I'm like the Sandra Bullock.

679
00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:41,800
I'm like, hey, no glass.

680
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:44,080
They're taking shots.

681
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:47,200
That pool is like very reminiscent of like the boogie night.

682
00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:48,680
Yeah, big time.

683
00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:50,080
I was thinking the same thing.

684
00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:52,480
Twenty five years. Yeah, totally.

685
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:54,200
The whole kid minute. Totally.

686
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:57,000
Yeah. And then the same one.

687
00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:00,000
Yeah, I feel like it might be. Yeah.

688
00:39:00,240 --> 00:39:03,840
Yeah, yeah. And then like she she talks to Sandra Bullock about him,

689
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:07,280
about being the Dracula cowboy and how they spend all night.

690
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:09,600
Worshipping each other.

691
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:12,400
And you can tell he's very clingy where she asked.

692
00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:15,140
She has to go to the bathroom.

693
00:39:15,140 --> 00:39:20,640
And he says, let's go together and won't let her just go to the bathroom by herself.

694
00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:24,800
Red flags. Red flag.

695
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:26,000
Made the flags.

696
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:30,780
But I think if I think if I was younger, that would have been fun.

697
00:39:31,380 --> 00:39:35,100
But now it just feels like I need my space.

698
00:39:35,100 --> 00:39:38,300
Like, no, please let me go to the bathroom.

699
00:39:38,300 --> 00:39:40,600
We'll come back to worshiping each other in just a moment.

700
00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:46,940
I swear. I mean, and also to what a crazy move that in just the in the movie,

701
00:39:46,940 --> 00:39:51,040
just solely what we've seen is they have seen each other.

702
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:53,780
Like they started flirting from across the room. Right.

703
00:39:55,140 --> 00:39:58,640
And then she goes to the bathroom or something.

704
00:39:58,940 --> 00:40:02,440
And then he walks up behind her and then without saying any words,

705
00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:06,980
puts a I don't know, something over a hot stuff.

706
00:40:07,100 --> 00:40:10,100
And I was like, this is a crazy move.

707
00:40:10,780 --> 00:40:13,340
There's no there's no conversation about it.

708
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:16,240
This is that's something that you like would happen.

709
00:40:16,240 --> 00:40:17,940
A little eyes wide shut.

710
00:40:17,940 --> 00:40:22,880
You can't just do this without any

711
00:40:24,540 --> 00:40:26,640
talking about what

712
00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:29,380
you said, you know, what you want.

713
00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:31,600
So this movie is kind of fucking crazy.

714
00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:33,500
He's actually from Transylvania, too.

715
00:40:33,500 --> 00:40:36,880
Like she says, Dracula, but she's like, oh, he's actually from Transylvania.

716
00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:40,200
And I was really waiting for him to reveal that he's a vampire.

717
00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:42,440
I wouldn't be surprising in a movie like this.

718
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:43,140
I mean, there's witches.

719
00:40:43,140 --> 00:40:44,600
Oh, that's true.

720
00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:46,840
But then it would be a hat on a hat, I guess,

721
00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:48,280
once we find out what happens with them.

722
00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:51,240
But you know, Dracula Cowboy is already a couple hats.

723
00:40:51,240 --> 00:40:52,740
Yeah. Yeah.

724
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:56,540
He doesn't have room on the head for any more.

725
00:40:58,580 --> 00:41:01,500
It's also crazy when she's talking about like, oh, we worship each other.

726
00:41:01,500 --> 00:41:02,140
All night.

727
00:41:02,140 --> 00:41:05,500
And she's like, oh, yeah, I have to put Bella Donna in his drinks

728
00:41:05,500 --> 00:41:07,040
just so I can get some sleep.

729
00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:08,700
And yeah. Yeah.

730
00:41:08,700 --> 00:41:10,700
You mean that's right.

731
00:41:10,700 --> 00:41:12,900
Yeah, no, it's not.

732
00:41:12,900 --> 00:41:15,240
Fancy threads situation now.

733
00:41:15,240 --> 00:41:16,040
Oh, my.

734
00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:19,640
Or or what is it?

735
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:23,340
So the what did you put in the medicine?

736
00:41:23,340 --> 00:41:26,100
Oh, the flowers of the flower.

737
00:41:26,100 --> 00:41:28,500
I don't know if it's a tasteful

738
00:41:28,500 --> 00:41:31,300
impression that Carl and I have been doing lately, but

739
00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:32,940
or since we saw that movie.

740
00:41:32,940 --> 00:41:35,440
But yeah, what did you put in the medicine?

741
00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:38,740
What did you put in the medicine?

742
00:41:38,740 --> 00:41:41,200
Yeah. Oh, God, it is funny to think about.

743
00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:46,840
Like, I guess really, though, like it handles well in my mind,

744
00:41:47,140 --> 00:41:49,400
having mature themes in it,

745
00:41:49,900 --> 00:41:57,100
but in a way that it's never too racy or too like edgy

746
00:41:57,100 --> 00:42:00,600
and needing to be like, you know, have like some sin,

747
00:42:00,700 --> 00:42:04,200
like a lot of cynicism in it or the feeling the need to show it.

748
00:42:05,100 --> 00:42:08,000
And I and I think that works well for this

749
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:15,200
because this movie has has so much to it to really suck in.

750
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:17,440
Like, I don't know.

751
00:42:18,300 --> 00:42:21,340
Teenage girls are like preteen girls, even, you know,

752
00:42:21,540 --> 00:42:24,540
with so much other great shit going on with the characters.

753
00:42:24,540 --> 00:42:28,140
And it's kind of nice that it doesn't like need to get into

754
00:42:28,340 --> 00:42:34,940
like adult themes too much, but it doesn't enough that it is good.

755
00:42:34,940 --> 00:42:38,740
And it like shows that it's there, but it doesn't feel the need to like

756
00:42:38,740 --> 00:42:41,640
go so far and like kind of like, I don't know.

757
00:42:42,140 --> 00:42:43,640
It's very for 13.

758
00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:45,140
Yeah, very.

759
00:42:45,140 --> 00:42:48,840
It's very PG 13, which yeah, I don't know.

760
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:52,740
Sometimes like we just watched the ring and that's PG 13.

761
00:42:52,740 --> 00:42:56,440
And it sucks that that was PG 13, you know, and there are sometimes

762
00:42:56,440 --> 00:43:00,640
where you're like this movie would have benefited from allowing itself

763
00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:06,540
to visually show actions that would contribute to like showing

764
00:43:06,540 --> 00:43:10,240
a character being really bad or showing how bad, you know,

765
00:43:10,240 --> 00:43:12,540
this kind of lifestyle is or whatever.

766
00:43:12,740 --> 00:43:18,440
And this does well to allude to those things in a way that I think

767
00:43:18,540 --> 00:43:20,340
the tact of it is really nice.

768
00:43:20,340 --> 00:43:24,640
I think it's really solid and allowing itself to be mature enough,

769
00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:27,640
but never feeling the need to go overboard.

770
00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:32,740
What do you all think of the like inciting incident and the fallout

771
00:43:32,740 --> 00:43:39,940
of it and everything of like, I mean, the tent scene of him

772
00:43:39,940 --> 00:43:45,940
essentially kidnapping them and taking them to this abandoned

773
00:43:45,940 --> 00:43:48,740
or not abandoned, but just like this location, the docks

774
00:43:48,740 --> 00:43:54,040
essentially looks like where it just seems so scary in that moment

775
00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:58,540
where he tries to choke her and Sandra Bullock has to poison him

776
00:43:58,540 --> 00:44:02,640
and then having to try to revive him and then burying him in the Rose

777
00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:06,640
Bush's like how did you how did 1998 jazz feel during all that part

778
00:44:07,140 --> 00:44:08,440
that whole section?

779
00:44:09,940 --> 00:44:14,040
So I actually recall watching this movie in theaters and remember

780
00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:17,140
like looking at my mom and thinking like, wow, this got a little

781
00:44:17,140 --> 00:44:23,640
violent suddenly as an eight-year-old, but it's very, very, but it's

782
00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:26,340
very small and very minute as an adult.

783
00:44:26,340 --> 00:44:30,440
I think they take like violence against women and it's never okay,

784
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:34,440
but it is much more abusive and it's much worse than that.

785
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:38,840
And they convey that message of controlling and like being physically

786
00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:42,740
abused by like look on her face and like wanting to be with the sisters

787
00:44:42,740 --> 00:44:45,240
and that overbearing controlling vibe.

788
00:44:45,240 --> 00:44:49,240
I think they do a good job at like dancing around the issue while

789
00:44:49,240 --> 00:44:51,940
still expressing that this is a very intense scene.

790
00:44:51,940 --> 00:44:54,140
Yeah, absolutely.

791
00:44:54,140 --> 00:44:58,940
Yeah, like communicating all of the negative aspects of his character

792
00:44:58,940 --> 00:45:01,040
and turning him into a villain.

793
00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:06,540
But again, never needing to really show a lot of violence on screen,

794
00:45:06,540 --> 00:45:09,540
which I mean, honestly kudos to the movie for that.

795
00:45:09,540 --> 00:45:12,140
It's like, you know, I mean, sure.

796
00:45:12,140 --> 00:45:15,940
I guess maybe would have got a ratings or some weird.

797
00:45:15,940 --> 00:45:20,040
I don't know exactly like movies are able to get away with like violence

798
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:22,240
against women in particular.

799
00:45:22,240 --> 00:45:24,940
And then in like, I don't know where the threshold of it becoming

800
00:45:24,940 --> 00:45:28,340
ours, but nonetheless, here in America, as long as there's no sex

801
00:45:28,940 --> 00:45:32,740
and if those women are enjoying the sex and get out of here says the MPAA.

802
00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:35,940
But violence is all right with them.

803
00:45:35,940 --> 00:45:38,540
But sex is not exactly right.

804
00:45:38,540 --> 00:45:42,340
Yeah, what a puritanical society.

805
00:45:42,340 --> 00:45:46,440
But they make him like they like they make him a joke, which I think is

806
00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:50,640
is, I don't know, really a nice way to deal with an antagonist

807
00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:53,040
that like is malicious and scary.

808
00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:57,440
And they show the realism of that in that moment from from that moment on.

809
00:45:57,440 --> 00:46:01,940
He is kind of played for laughs almost like whatever his the threat

810
00:46:01,940 --> 00:46:05,740
of him coming back and all that, of course, is like an inconvenience

811
00:46:05,740 --> 00:46:11,540
to say the least, but like I just enjoy the slapstick nature of what ensues.

812
00:46:11,540 --> 00:46:17,140
And it if anything, like is a bonding moment for them in a weird way.

813
00:46:17,140 --> 00:46:20,440
But yeah, it got really intense.

814
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:25,340
And then it pulled away and started to become like more lighthearted again.

815
00:46:25,340 --> 00:46:27,540
And they pulled back and then they introduce

816
00:46:28,340 --> 00:46:31,940
Aiden Quinn pretty quickly into and they come back to the house.

817
00:46:31,940 --> 00:46:37,340
And it's more just, yes, in the town side and the house and everything.

818
00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:41,240
But yeah, bringing him back to life is pretty.

819
00:46:41,740 --> 00:46:44,640
The intense and the intensity of like watching someone like

820
00:46:44,940 --> 00:46:49,440
with the intention of trying to burn like their insignia on a human skin.

821
00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:53,040
And within like a five to 10 minutes, he's

822
00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:56,540
they're like doing whipped cream pentagram.

823
00:46:56,740 --> 00:46:58,140
Yeah, she's like slapping.

824
00:46:58,140 --> 00:47:00,540
That's where you see that swing of like intense violence

825
00:47:00,540 --> 00:47:02,740
to slapstick nature. Yeah.

826
00:47:02,740 --> 00:47:04,240
Let's go seven.

827
00:47:04,240 --> 00:47:07,140
She eats some of the whipped cream.

828
00:47:07,740 --> 00:47:09,840
It's like kind of like sideswimmy.

829
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:11,640
I was like, wait a minute. Whoa, holy shit.

830
00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:15,440
You know, and that's what it's all about.

831
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:19,140
Either the whipped cream on, you know, and then just like, oh, yeah, this is great.

832
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:23,940
I don't remember also to why the whipped cream was like it was so quick.

833
00:47:23,940 --> 00:47:26,040
She was like, oh, that's perfect.

834
00:47:26,100 --> 00:47:29,940
She needed something that had a like a certain ingredient in it.

835
00:47:29,940 --> 00:47:33,700
And then it was like something white, something white, I think.

836
00:47:33,700 --> 00:47:34,400
Yeah. Yeah.

837
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:36,500
Well, just OK, the color of it. OK, gotcha.

838
00:47:36,500 --> 00:47:38,240
Gotcha. Yeah. Yeah. Ready?

839
00:47:38,240 --> 00:47:39,940
Whip white. Perfect. Yeah.

840
00:47:39,940 --> 00:47:42,440
Practical magic, baby. Let's go.

841
00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:46,540
Well, I thought it's so funny into the slapstick nature of it,

842
00:47:46,540 --> 00:47:49,940
which is good, like deflating him, making him out to be a joke,

843
00:47:49,940 --> 00:47:51,360
making him to be a bad guy.

844
00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:53,600
Like all of these things are like, I don't know.

845
00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:55,240
It works well.

846
00:47:55,240 --> 00:48:01,160
The like approach or how they like really try to communicate,

847
00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:05,100
like him being a piece of shit.

848
00:48:05,100 --> 00:48:09,100
They bring him back to life and immediately kill him again,

849
00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:14,140
which was really like, I was like, oh, and then they bury him.

850
00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:15,260
So I don't know.

851
00:48:15,260 --> 00:48:17,500
It was I got a little bit of like, wait a minute.

852
00:48:17,500 --> 00:48:20,040
So you brought him back to life,

853
00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:23,160
but then he just immediately is a douche again.

854
00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:25,380
And then they kill him. And then they're like, you know what?

855
00:48:25,980 --> 00:48:27,120
Let's not bring him back to life.

856
00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:28,820
And then they bury him.

857
00:48:28,820 --> 00:48:32,720
I kind of loved a little bit of this, like

858
00:48:32,720 --> 00:48:35,960
this idea of at first, they were giving him

859
00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:38,360
like almost the benefit of the doubt and going like,

860
00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:40,960
we're not going to be responsible for killing a person,

861
00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:42,380
even though he's terrible.

862
00:48:42,380 --> 00:48:46,620
But then him being immediately evil coming back to life again.

863
00:48:46,620 --> 00:48:48,820
They're like, you know what? No.

864
00:48:48,820 --> 00:48:49,720
What a deal with you.

865
00:48:49,720 --> 00:48:51,520
Just sweep it under the rug.

866
00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:54,880
He actually do sweep them at some point.

867
00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:55,420
I love that.

868
00:48:55,420 --> 00:48:57,560
Like Sandra Bullock is like warning her.

869
00:48:57,560 --> 00:48:59,960
She's like, they said that if we bring him back,

870
00:48:59,960 --> 00:49:01,760
he'll come back dark and unnatural.

871
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:04,480
And Nicole is like, well, he was already dark and unnatural.

872
00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:05,760
So whatever.

873
00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:07,880
So who cares?

874
00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:10,480
All right. All right.

875
00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:12,680
All right. Well, anyway, so let's do this.

876
00:49:14,260 --> 00:49:17,420
I was also thinking about the timeline right now of like

877
00:49:17,420 --> 00:49:21,060
where Sandra Bullock flies out to go save her sister.

878
00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:25,360
Yeah. And then they're driving and then they wind up back at the house.

879
00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:29,020
I'm like, you have to drive with that dead body, like back to New England

880
00:49:29,260 --> 00:49:32,720
from what I presume was the Southwest of Arizona.

881
00:49:32,780 --> 00:49:33,780
Yeah. Yeah.

882
00:49:33,780 --> 00:49:35,580
Like L.A., maybe.

883
00:49:35,580 --> 00:49:38,320
I mean, it seemed like a very L.A. house to the point of like, honestly,

884
00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:41,020
if you were to tell me, yeah, that's so funny that you brought up

885
00:49:41,020 --> 00:49:43,660
like if you were to say that this is the Boogie Nights house, I would have blamed you.

886
00:49:43,860 --> 00:49:47,060
But like, yeah, totally looks like because it's like a lot of

887
00:49:47,060 --> 00:49:50,920
glass looking a pool and all of that stuff.

888
00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:53,620
And even kind of is pretty on the case.

889
00:49:53,620 --> 00:49:57,560
He knows where the car is out right when he shows up and he shows up pretty quickly.

890
00:49:57,780 --> 00:50:01,180
Although the roses are growing, I guess, very quickly as well.

891
00:50:01,180 --> 00:50:03,180
I love that.

892
00:50:03,180 --> 00:50:05,720
I love that idea of.

893
00:50:05,720 --> 00:50:09,920
He. Somebody like this lingering

894
00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:15,620
thing that is like festering, but it's visualized in roses,

895
00:50:15,620 --> 00:50:20,740
which I don't know if they explain why roses were the thing that he like.

896
00:50:22,020 --> 00:50:26,740
And why he manifested himself like that, maybe because of like the thorns of it all.

897
00:50:26,740 --> 00:50:28,540
But it's very telltale.

898
00:50:28,540 --> 00:50:29,820
I guess.

899
00:50:29,820 --> 00:50:32,020
Hey, there you go.

900
00:50:32,020 --> 00:50:32,920
That's all I need.

901
00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:35,740
But this idea of like looking outside your way.

902
00:50:36,220 --> 00:50:37,720
It's almost like.

903
00:50:37,720 --> 00:50:42,820
Like telltale horror, like egg around and poach, which is very gothic.

904
00:50:42,820 --> 00:50:43,820
Wait, I just said that.

905
00:50:43,820 --> 00:50:45,820
I literally.

906
00:50:45,820 --> 00:50:47,820
Oh, sorry.

907
00:50:47,820 --> 00:50:49,820
I don't know what I heard, though.

908
00:50:49,820 --> 00:50:51,820
You're like, that's all I need.

909
00:50:51,820 --> 00:50:53,820
No. Okay.

910
00:50:53,820 --> 00:50:54,820
That's all I need.

911
00:50:54,820 --> 00:50:55,820
I will say.

912
00:50:55,820 --> 00:50:59,820
I'm glad we came there together.

913
00:50:59,820 --> 00:51:01,820
Yeah.

914
00:51:01,820 --> 00:51:03,820
But yeah, I don't know.

915
00:51:03,820 --> 00:51:05,820
I think that like visualized.

916
00:51:05,820 --> 00:51:07,820
I think that like visual.

917
00:51:07,820 --> 00:51:09,820
Yeah.

918
00:51:09,820 --> 00:51:22,220
Use of something growing in your backyard and then you see just like getting bigger and becoming more of a problem is it's a cool motif.

919
00:51:22,220 --> 00:51:29,020
That's yeah, I think that a lot, especially because they're trying to hide that fact from.

920
00:51:29,020 --> 00:51:31,020
He did Quinn.

921
00:51:31,020 --> 00:51:38,020
So, you know, it's always this thing that's like there where you're like, oh, but there's the dead bodies responsible for the roses.

922
00:51:38,020 --> 00:51:42,020
And as he comes into the house and all that.

923
00:51:42,020 --> 00:51:49,720
Yeah. And one of the daughters even says like, oh, there's there's a man out by the roses and like what rose is like, oh, they popped up overnight.

924
00:51:49,720 --> 00:51:51,420
Oh, I missed that.

925
00:51:51,420 --> 00:51:51,920
Yeah.

926
00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:52,420
Yeah.

927
00:51:52,420 --> 00:51:56,820
His shoes start to show to you.

928
00:51:56,820 --> 00:51:59,520
Don't his like boots start to show as well to like start to grow.

929
00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:01,520
Oh, right.

930
00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:02,420
Yeah.

931
00:52:02,420 --> 00:52:02,920
I think so.

932
00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:07,720
And then Sandra Bullock has a scene where or maybe Nicole can where she starts chopping down all the roses.

933
00:52:07,720 --> 00:52:08,720
Yeah.

934
00:52:08,720 --> 00:52:10,220
Yeah.

935
00:52:10,220 --> 00:52:16,020
That's when Aiden Quinn shows up and have their little meet cute, I guess.

936
00:52:16,020 --> 00:52:17,920
I really I really like him.

937
00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:31,920
It's interesting that, yeah, that he's kind of combined love interest and police officer investigating where he kind of has to cover both bases and he does it well.

938
00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:34,320
But it is a lot for him to take on.

939
00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:36,720
What do you what do you guys think?

940
00:52:36,720 --> 00:52:43,120
Well, I have to say we're missing one crucial scene before Aiden Quinn comes into the scene.

941
00:52:43,120 --> 00:52:44,920
The father is.

942
00:52:44,920 --> 00:52:47,520
Yes, it is the midnight margarita scene.

943
00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:49,120
Oh, yeah.

944
00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:52,120
The bottle of tequila shows up.

945
00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:57,620
That is absolutely magical in the movie.

946
00:52:57,620 --> 00:52:58,120
Absolutely.

947
00:52:58,120 --> 00:53:00,520
It's definitely up there with that.

948
00:53:00,520 --> 00:53:02,820
It's either that or the Kevin scene at the end.

949
00:53:02,820 --> 00:53:12,720
And my little research was revealed that they all apparently took shots of tequila as a film crew.

950
00:53:12,720 --> 00:53:18,320
And they're actually a little tipsy when they shot that scene.

951
00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:26,020
And one of the quotes was like, Good thing like the director of photography didn't drink at all because we were all having lots of fun.

952
00:53:26,020 --> 00:53:28,420
Which makes me happy.

953
00:53:28,420 --> 00:53:32,020
That's Dracula cowboy coming back in a different sense.

954
00:53:32,020 --> 00:53:32,520
Yeah.

955
00:53:32,520 --> 00:53:38,620
It's when that tequila bottle appears and now spewing out different things.

956
00:53:38,620 --> 00:53:46,920
And also really fun fact, if you watch the movie, start the movie at eleven eleven, the midnight margarita scene happens at exactly midnight.

957
00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:49,220
Wow.

958
00:53:49,220 --> 00:53:50,620
That's satisfying.

959
00:53:50,620 --> 00:53:51,720
All right.

960
00:53:51,720 --> 00:53:56,920
Next time I watch this movie, I'm going to have to get the midnight margarita is ready to go.

961
00:53:56,920 --> 00:54:07,120
In the middle of the movie at some point, I mean, it just sounds like a tradition that I'm sure it started that after this movie that some people probably still do every Halloween night.

962
00:54:07,120 --> 00:54:09,720
Once it hits midnight, get the margaritas going.

963
00:54:09,720 --> 00:54:11,520
Yeah.

964
00:54:11,520 --> 00:54:15,720
And I love how they just like, yeah, how you were saying, like they just start like spewing out everything.

965
00:54:15,720 --> 00:54:21,720
They're cackling like witches and they're just letting loose, having fun.

966
00:54:21,720 --> 00:54:27,220
I'm like, yes, this is like when girls get together, we have our drinks.

967
00:54:27,220 --> 00:54:33,920
We have a little hot goss and we just let loose and so much fun.

968
00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:38,920
But then they realize, you know, they are and then they realize like he's now reincarnated.

969
00:54:38,920 --> 00:54:40,720
They're like, where did you get this bottle?

970
00:54:40,720 --> 00:54:42,020
Yeah, and disappear.

971
00:54:42,020 --> 00:54:47,620
And that's when Aiden Owen comes in, I believe the next day, two days later, we have that nature.

972
00:54:47,620 --> 00:54:50,720
Mm hmm.

973
00:54:50,720 --> 00:54:56,820
We are you saying the ants like manifested Aiden or oh, no.

974
00:54:56,820 --> 00:54:57,920
Oh, OK. No, right.

975
00:54:57,920 --> 00:55:02,220
I was saying chronologically, like here and then the cops come in.

976
00:55:02,220 --> 00:55:02,820
Yeah.

977
00:55:02,820 --> 00:55:05,620
Just the chemistry with all four of them is impeccable.

978
00:55:05,620 --> 00:55:08,920
And I think that just adds so much to this movie.

979
00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:14,820
Not only Sandra Bullock and Nicole Kidman really hit it off.

980
00:55:14,820 --> 00:55:20,320
I feel like as as people because they're their sisterhood is very believable.

981
00:55:20,320 --> 00:55:25,120
And then the aunts are just just nail it to both of them.

982
00:55:25,120 --> 00:55:28,320
Dianne Wiesen, what's what's her the other aunts name?

983
00:55:28,320 --> 00:55:28,720
Rizzo.

984
00:55:28,720 --> 00:55:30,020
Stalker Channing.

985
00:55:30,020 --> 00:55:30,820
Stalker Channing.

986
00:55:30,820 --> 00:55:31,520
Stalker Channing.

987
00:55:31,520 --> 00:55:33,220
Yeah, just like I don't know.

988
00:55:33,220 --> 00:55:38,320
She's the more kind of like has the no like doesn't take any bullshit sort of like deadpan sort of face.

989
00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:42,720
And Diane Weiss is kind of more a little bit more maternal and warm.

990
00:55:42,720 --> 00:55:48,220
And but they both have the funnest of hats.

991
00:55:48,220 --> 00:55:49,920
Yeah, they do.

992
00:55:49,920 --> 00:55:57,420
If I could have the fun, fun hats, midnight margaritas has to be some sort of tradition.

993
00:55:57,420 --> 00:55:59,520
Fun hats, margaritas Halloween.

994
00:55:59,520 --> 00:56:00,620
Oh, life.

995
00:56:00,620 --> 00:56:01,620
I love it.

996
00:56:01,620 --> 00:56:04,620
That is life.

997
00:56:04,620 --> 00:56:04,920
Then.

998
00:56:04,920 --> 00:56:05,120
Yeah.

999
00:56:05,120 --> 00:56:06,520
So Hayden approaches.

1000
00:56:06,520 --> 00:56:08,220
Yeah.

1001
00:56:08,220 --> 00:56:10,720
I was just going to say, honestly, who doesn't want them as their aunts?

1002
00:56:10,720 --> 00:56:11,420
They're so fun.

1003
00:56:11,420 --> 00:56:13,120
They have chocolate cake for breakfast.

1004
00:56:13,120 --> 00:56:16,220
They do margaritas at midnight.

1005
00:56:16,220 --> 00:56:18,120
Yeah, I want to be that.

1006
00:56:18,120 --> 00:56:23,920
I want to be like I'd rather be them than like Sandra Bullock or.

1007
00:56:23,920 --> 00:56:24,220
All right.

1008
00:56:24,220 --> 00:56:25,120
I pick Diane Weiss.

1009
00:56:25,120 --> 00:56:28,320
I'm Diane Weiss.

1010
00:56:28,320 --> 00:56:33,120
Yeah, like they're going to take Evan Rachel Wood and the other daughter out to like the

1011
00:56:33,120 --> 00:56:35,920
I forget it was like the witch festival or something like that.

1012
00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:40,020
Like no dancing naked in the moonlight.

1013
00:56:40,020 --> 00:56:46,620
They're essentially like, oh, honey, that's optional, you know.

1014
00:56:46,620 --> 00:56:48,720
Oh, the answer.

1015
00:56:48,720 --> 00:56:51,920
The answer like more game than Sandra Bullock.

1016
00:56:51,920 --> 00:56:54,120
Sandra Bullock is like.

1017
00:56:54,120 --> 00:56:57,520
Against it, you know, so I don't want to be Sandra Bullock.

1018
00:56:57,520 --> 00:57:00,920
Like I feel like I'm in the middle with the ants.

1019
00:57:00,920 --> 00:57:04,420
They've known the rules for so long that they know how and when to break them.

1020
00:57:04,420 --> 00:57:10,220
I think Sandra Bullock and Nicole Kidman are starting to try to figure that out.

1021
00:57:10,220 --> 00:57:16,220
Yeah, I mean, also to the center, Bullock's like motive behind that is because of losing her husband.

1022
00:57:16,220 --> 00:57:18,320
He seemed like a great guy.

1023
00:57:18,320 --> 00:57:19,520
I mean, I don't know.

1024
00:57:19,520 --> 00:57:21,320
Yeah, him.

1025
00:57:21,320 --> 00:57:24,820
We didn't talk about his his death at all, but

1026
00:57:24,820 --> 00:57:29,920
in the daughter, is it the beetle or the cockroach scene?

1027
00:57:29,920 --> 00:57:34,220
That's yeah, that's the like signifier.

1028
00:57:34,220 --> 00:57:44,220
Yeah, that the time has come for the partner to receive a bicycle parade fake out accompanied by

1029
00:57:45,520 --> 00:57:53,220
getting run over and the tragic shot of apples falling from from the sky onto the asphalt.

1030
00:57:53,220 --> 00:57:57,520
It was extremely sad and Sandra Bullock plays it very well too.

1031
00:57:57,520 --> 00:58:01,520
And just like putting herself under the blankets, not wanting to come out.

1032
00:58:01,520 --> 00:58:04,120
And then Evan Rachel nails like that whole

1033
00:58:04,120 --> 00:58:08,820
just she does comfort her mom.

1034
00:58:08,820 --> 00:58:12,920
And then Sandra Bullock grabs her and puts her into the blanket with her.

1035
00:58:12,920 --> 00:58:17,520
I'm just so cozy and such like a warm familial just all the community

1036
00:58:17,520 --> 00:58:19,620
and elements of a sisterhood motherhood all that stuff.

1037
00:58:19,620 --> 00:58:23,820
Like I think is definitely one is the strongest parts of the movie for me,

1038
00:58:23,820 --> 00:58:26,120
which is such like a feeling.

1039
00:58:26,120 --> 00:58:32,020
And and even though I never saw this movie in 1998, seeing a movie that was made in 1998,

1040
00:58:32,020 --> 00:58:37,020
I think really hits me in a way too, because I think same as just the same.

1041
00:58:37,020 --> 00:58:40,420
Like those are probably when I was going to my first movie theater experiences.

1042
00:58:40,420 --> 00:58:43,620
And yeah, Batman and Robin bad movie.

1043
00:58:43,620 --> 00:58:44,720
I saw it in movie theaters.

1044
00:58:44,720 --> 00:58:49,020
So it's like it's a good movie to me because it just brings me back to that place.

1045
00:58:49,020 --> 00:58:52,120
Or the running joke is lost.

1046
00:58:52,120 --> 00:58:53,120
Real Jurassic Park, too.

1047
00:58:53,120 --> 00:58:54,520
It's just like, oh, I just saw that.

1048
00:58:54,520 --> 00:58:58,620
I remember seeing that movie in theaters and the sound was so loud

1049
00:58:58,620 --> 00:59:04,320
to my tiny little ears, my fresh ears that having gone to a bunch of Coachella's.

1050
00:59:04,320 --> 00:59:08,520
And so I it was just like, is this supposed to be this loud?

1051
00:59:08,520 --> 00:59:11,420
Is the dinosaur supposed to be roaring this loud?

1052
00:59:12,520 --> 00:59:15,120
I remember when that was an issue for me as well.

1053
00:59:15,120 --> 00:59:22,020
And stuff is that how loud it is, which is my cousin who has a seven year old.

1054
00:59:22,020 --> 00:59:25,920
And he explained the same thing of like some movies.

1055
00:59:25,920 --> 00:59:30,620
It's tough to take the kids to because they get really like freaked out

1056
00:59:30,620 --> 00:59:34,920
or really scared just solely based on how loud the movie is.

1057
00:59:34,920 --> 00:59:41,320
Isn't even so much like what the move, you know, whether or not the movie is scary or whatever.

1058
00:59:41,320 --> 00:59:46,120
It's just this year like being in a theater and sometimes it gets really loud for kids

1059
00:59:46,120 --> 00:59:49,720
at a certain age. It's like that alone is like, I don't like this.

1060
00:59:49,720 --> 00:59:53,820
I then starts crying or wanting to leave, you know, sensory overload.

1061
00:59:53,820 --> 00:59:57,420
But this has just such a warm shot on film. Look to it.

1062
00:59:57,420 --> 01:00:03,320
There's a lot of like ambers and just warm feeling in the in the house and all that.

1063
01:00:03,320 --> 01:00:08,420
So it just hits me on on that cozy level for sure.

1064
01:00:08,420 --> 01:00:12,720
And especially now we're in like the thick of the movie of them just essentially

1065
01:00:12,720 --> 01:00:16,220
hanging out in the house and keeping eating Quinn off off the trail.

1066
01:00:16,220 --> 01:00:19,720
And I would love to have brunch on, you know, even if there is some poison maple syrup,

1067
01:00:19,720 --> 01:00:24,620
I don't care. It's just looks so so nice to have brunch outside like that.

1068
01:00:24,620 --> 01:00:26,820
That seemed like a fun time.

1069
01:00:27,220 --> 01:00:29,320
And that seems to the daughters get involved.

1070
01:00:29,320 --> 01:00:34,220
And again, just another level that this works on with just like women

1071
01:00:34,220 --> 01:00:38,320
look like helping and loving women is like there's not really a whole lot of conflict

1072
01:00:38,320 --> 01:00:42,520
either between like either this the daughters between themselves

1073
01:00:42,520 --> 01:00:48,720
or there's a little bit of contention with Cinder Bullock not wanting her daughters to learn magic.

1074
01:00:48,720 --> 01:00:53,020
But it's so wonderfully offset by Nicole Kidman being the cool aunt

1075
01:00:53,020 --> 01:00:56,720
that they have that scene where they're like the daughters are there.

1076
01:00:56,720 --> 01:01:01,920
Nicole Kidman's there and you just like get it just is so like.

1077
01:01:01,920 --> 01:01:04,920
Yeah, it's just it's suiting off the screen.

1078
01:01:04,920 --> 01:01:10,620
That's idea of like the daughters are so like, you know, taken care of

1079
01:01:10,620 --> 01:01:15,020
and they got all these cool like role models in their life.

1080
01:01:15,020 --> 01:01:19,320
And there's they have they're also like, yeah, like

1081
01:01:19,320 --> 01:01:22,520
one of the daughters, the Evan Rachel Wood daughter

1082
01:01:22,520 --> 01:01:27,120
being more mature at times than Sandra Bullock and having those scenes.

1083
01:01:27,120 --> 01:01:30,720
It's like, no, I don't know.

1084
01:01:30,720 --> 01:01:33,820
They're all they all fit in.

1085
01:01:33,820 --> 01:01:38,220
You know, they all bring something to the table that really helps each other out.

1086
01:01:38,220 --> 01:01:40,520
And all of that is pretty frictionless.

1087
01:01:40,520 --> 01:01:46,120
It's very much welcomed of like, oh, my God, they're now having fun doing this or

1088
01:01:46,120 --> 01:01:50,720
and what have you. And also, too, it's.

1089
01:01:50,720 --> 01:01:54,820
Got to be like cool as a mother or I mean, it's very convenient,

1090
01:01:54,820 --> 01:02:02,020
but you are ostensibly like not a twin, but like your sisters, like the same age.

1091
01:02:02,020 --> 01:02:05,220
And then you have daughter like two daughters that are the same age.

1092
01:02:05,220 --> 01:02:08,020
They're also like one redhead and one brunette.

1093
01:02:08,020 --> 01:02:11,020
And it's like, man, that's got to rock as like a mother.

1094
01:02:11,020 --> 01:02:14,020
You're like, I just had like

1095
01:02:14,020 --> 01:02:17,520
now I get to be the parent to what I was.

1096
01:02:17,820 --> 01:02:21,620
And that's generationally, there's just pairs all the way to just like

1097
01:02:22,620 --> 01:02:25,920
these pairs of women all the way down.

1098
01:02:25,920 --> 01:02:29,320
And it's like it's one of the best feelings in the world.

1099
01:02:29,320 --> 01:02:34,220
And this is a little bit off topic, but it just made me think of like,

1100
01:02:34,320 --> 01:02:38,420
you know, had mentioned how like Sandra Bullock and Nicole Kidman,

1101
01:02:38,420 --> 01:02:40,820
they recognize that they are different.

1102
01:02:40,820 --> 01:02:42,020
You know, they're not the same.

1103
01:02:42,020 --> 01:02:44,120
They recognize each other's differences.

1104
01:02:44,120 --> 01:02:46,620
And instead of like bashing heads or anything,

1105
01:02:47,520 --> 01:02:49,820
they just acknowledge it and work with it.

1106
01:02:49,820 --> 01:02:53,720
And I started watching Peaky Blinders and there's this one.

1107
01:02:54,120 --> 01:02:57,120
I know it's kind of a random thought, but like

1108
01:02:57,120 --> 01:02:59,520
there's this one scene where like

1109
01:03:01,120 --> 01:03:04,420
the this cool aunt in the show,

1110
01:03:04,420 --> 01:03:08,420
she's chatting with this other girl who's kind of like her enemy.

1111
01:03:08,420 --> 01:03:10,620
And she mentions like.

1112
01:03:11,620 --> 01:03:15,520
How like they have this like opportunity to like get violent and like

1113
01:03:15,620 --> 01:03:19,920
basically kill each other, but they the cool aunt is like,

1114
01:03:19,920 --> 01:03:24,620
oh, you know what, we're smarter than the boys and we're not going to fight.

1115
01:03:24,620 --> 01:03:26,120
We'll talk it out.

1116
01:03:26,120 --> 01:03:28,820
And I think that's the other thing about this whole sisterhood.

1117
01:03:28,820 --> 01:03:33,020
It's like they're not there's there's not a lot of

1118
01:03:34,220 --> 01:03:40,020
violence or tension or physical things because they I mean women.

1119
01:03:40,520 --> 01:03:44,620
I don't want to speak for all women, but like we tend to like talk things out

1120
01:03:44,820 --> 01:03:49,520
maybe more and like we can like get to a place where like

1121
01:03:50,020 --> 01:03:54,920
we'll agree to like disagree, but there's never for like violence or like

1122
01:03:54,920 --> 01:03:58,620
I mean, I don't want to speak for all women, but I know what you mean though.

1123
01:03:58,620 --> 01:04:00,120
Yeah, I get what you're saying.

1124
01:04:00,120 --> 01:04:02,020
Yeah, for sure. Absolutely.

1125
01:04:02,020 --> 01:04:06,920
Like all of those could be something that is in a movie like this, too,

1126
01:04:06,920 --> 01:04:08,220
that you're talking about.

1127
01:04:08,220 --> 01:04:14,320
And that's that's why the fact that this movie doesn't fall prey to those.

1128
01:04:15,320 --> 01:04:22,520
Stereotypes or like falls into that kind of dynamic is interesting.

1129
01:04:22,520 --> 01:04:25,020
I mean, it's proof that like.

1130
01:04:26,020 --> 01:04:30,520
This movie like we mentioned, I think before we started recording is like

1131
01:04:30,520 --> 01:04:33,020
mainly made by women, too.

1132
01:04:33,020 --> 01:04:37,220
I know that we know that the director is and there is some writers, but like

1133
01:04:37,220 --> 01:04:43,520
the head writer is a woman, you know, and then it's just like, yeah,

1134
01:04:43,520 --> 01:04:45,420
I don't know, like all the way through the production.

1135
01:04:45,420 --> 01:04:47,020
There's a lot of influence there.

1136
01:04:47,020 --> 01:04:48,620
So it's nice to see that.

1137
01:04:48,620 --> 01:04:53,920
I don't know, like some stereotypical thing or some, I don't know,

1138
01:04:53,920 --> 01:04:57,820
male perspective superseded something.

1139
01:04:57,820 --> 01:04:59,920
It really just like.

1140
01:04:59,920 --> 01:05:03,620
I don't know, came from a place that understands these characters

1141
01:05:03,620 --> 01:05:06,220
and how this would actually go very well.

1142
01:05:06,220 --> 01:05:12,520
And I yeah, I commend the movie a lot for that, you know, it nails the the third act.

1143
01:05:12,520 --> 01:05:15,320
And when you put it like that, Kara, it's like, yeah, I could.

1144
01:05:15,320 --> 01:05:17,120
It could have gone into the place.

1145
01:05:17,120 --> 01:05:19,320
I don't know. I think it was based on a book or something.

1146
01:05:19,320 --> 01:05:23,120
But whatever the original story was, I don't know.

1147
01:05:23,120 --> 01:05:26,120
But it could have gone to a place like a big showdown with Dracula

1148
01:05:26,120 --> 01:05:27,620
cowboy or something.

1149
01:05:27,620 --> 01:05:31,920
And maybe they even have to get the coven together to fight him or something.

1150
01:05:31,920 --> 01:05:36,720
But what it boils down to, which is it was a very interesting way of doing it,

1151
01:05:36,720 --> 01:05:39,320
of him possessing Nicole Kidman.

1152
01:05:39,320 --> 01:05:43,520
And I thought that was very representative of like a toxic relationship and everything,

1153
01:05:43,520 --> 01:05:48,220
too, which I really like of like of him just controlling her body,

1154
01:05:48,220 --> 01:05:51,020
like all the way down to just he like is now inhabiting her

1155
01:05:51,020 --> 01:05:53,420
and controlling her body and speaking for her.

1156
01:05:53,420 --> 01:05:58,520
And Sandra Bullock's way of combating that is through love and through like sacrifice

1157
01:05:58,520 --> 01:06:03,520
and trying to get through to Nicole Kidman during the whole exorcism and

1158
01:06:03,520 --> 01:06:04,820
and seance and everything.

1159
01:06:04,820 --> 01:06:11,320
And I think that the the power therein of that,

1160
01:06:11,320 --> 01:06:16,920
of the community and knowing as writers that you can bank

1161
01:06:16,920 --> 01:06:21,920
the third act climactic moment upon that

1162
01:06:21,920 --> 01:06:26,820
whole scene and how it played out, I think just works so well.

1163
01:06:26,820 --> 01:06:29,720
And even for Aidan Quinn's arc of a character,

1164
01:06:29,720 --> 01:06:33,720
something that he uses to combat

1165
01:06:33,720 --> 01:06:38,020
the bad guy is a power that he learned from them

1166
01:06:38,020 --> 01:06:43,920
is of using his talisman, of using his his symbol to it comes across.

1167
01:06:43,920 --> 01:06:49,020
She's the power of the power of the popo baby.

1168
01:06:49,020 --> 01:06:53,920
But I like the idea of like it's like imbued with his personal.

1169
01:06:53,920 --> 01:06:56,920
I know, but it's like.

1170
01:06:56,920 --> 01:06:59,620
But I like the idea that was really shocking to me.

1171
01:06:59,620 --> 01:07:01,220
It's beyond that, though. I don't know.

1172
01:07:01,220 --> 01:07:05,220
I could give me maybe give me too much credit, but that it's not the

1173
01:07:05,220 --> 01:07:08,120
the institution of the pigs.

1174
01:07:08,120 --> 01:07:12,620
It's the institution like the importance that he places upon that symbol.

1175
01:07:12,620 --> 01:07:17,520
Like it's how he his subjective view of his and his own personal

1176
01:07:17,520 --> 01:07:21,320
importance upon justice and something that he prides on himself.

1177
01:07:21,320 --> 01:07:25,120
And he places it all in that power within this symbol.

1178
01:07:25,120 --> 01:07:27,620
And yeah, I don't know.

1179
01:07:27,620 --> 01:07:32,320
Another form of practical magic could have used even even more of it.

1180
01:07:32,320 --> 01:07:34,220
But I like those moments, man.

1181
01:07:34,220 --> 01:07:37,420
And it is earnest and sincere.

1182
01:07:37,420 --> 01:07:40,920
And yeah, probably comes across a little cheesy, but it's hard to deny

1183
01:07:40,920 --> 01:07:44,920
how good it makes you feel to in those moments.

1184
01:07:44,920 --> 01:07:48,020
Absolutely. Yeah, I feel like this movie could have easily been,

1185
01:07:48,020 --> 01:07:51,420
like you've said before, structured in a way in which

1186
01:07:51,420 --> 01:07:55,820
Nicole Kidman and Sandra Bullock are at odds with each other.

1187
01:07:55,820 --> 01:08:00,520
And then it's a man that requires them to come together and realistic.

1188
01:08:00,520 --> 01:08:03,720
And in this movie instead, like or like

1189
01:08:03,720 --> 01:08:10,620
the the a man or the enemy like a singular enemy being what like forces them to,

1190
01:08:10,620 --> 01:08:13,720
you know, let all bygones be bygones and whatnot.

1191
01:08:13,720 --> 01:08:19,420
It's so much more interesting than that where he possesses her.

1192
01:08:19,420 --> 01:08:22,920
But it's not like anybody's like Nicole Kidman's the problem.

1193
01:08:22,920 --> 01:08:26,720
They're like immediately like, OK, so we need to like get together,

1194
01:08:26,720 --> 01:08:31,220
call the ladies up, get them over here and let's get this douchebag out of this.

1195
01:08:31,220 --> 01:08:35,520
How did it go? Give it. Let's get her out of here and just do that instead.

1196
01:08:35,520 --> 01:08:38,620
And it just doesn't. Yeah.

1197
01:08:38,620 --> 01:08:42,920
And I adore that scene, like when they call the coven together.

1198
01:08:42,920 --> 01:08:45,520
It's not just hey, there's the backstab.

1199
01:08:45,520 --> 01:08:49,620
Like, yeah, her sister really just got out of a bad relationship with her ex.

1200
01:08:49,620 --> 01:08:54,420
Yeah. And they all bond over this fact that like, yep, been there, done that.

1201
01:08:54,420 --> 01:08:56,620
Let me help you out.

1202
01:08:56,620 --> 01:09:00,320
Like women love to talk and like we bond over talking

1203
01:09:00,320 --> 01:09:05,920
and sharing stories and yeah, it's just all all of us.

1204
01:09:05,920 --> 01:09:09,120
So and that phone trancy, it was like Sally's sister.

1205
01:09:09,120 --> 01:09:11,320
She's like, finally just came out as a witch.

1206
01:09:11,320 --> 01:09:14,420
You have to go over it. I'm like, yep, I've been part of that before.

1207
01:09:14,420 --> 01:09:16,320
Like, I love that.

1208
01:09:16,320 --> 01:09:20,520
It's the tree coming back and how like that was such a dramatic moment.

1209
01:09:20,520 --> 01:09:26,820
And the the like the pecking order of the totem pole of that tree

1210
01:09:26,820 --> 01:09:29,920
and finagling it and then needing it later.

1211
01:09:29,920 --> 01:09:33,320
And just that whole the montage of calling them over,

1212
01:09:33,320 --> 01:09:38,120
squashing their differences and more acclaimed character actress Margo Martindale.

1213
01:09:38,120 --> 01:09:40,720
So I know she's so she's so down.

1214
01:09:40,720 --> 01:09:45,220
Oh, my God. And they're like, yeah, like I felt I felt like my my daughter

1215
01:09:45,220 --> 01:09:47,620
was getting sick and she was all the way halfway across the world.

1216
01:09:47,620 --> 01:09:50,720
And I could just tell, you know, and then Diane Weiss comes by.

1217
01:09:50,720 --> 01:09:53,020
There's a little witch in all of us.

1218
01:09:53,020 --> 01:09:55,220
Oh, those little moments.

1219
01:09:55,220 --> 01:09:57,220
They nailed it. Oh, my God.

1220
01:09:57,220 --> 01:10:00,120
And got it. Yeah, it's like a heist movie almost.

1221
01:10:00,120 --> 01:10:02,620
It's like we got to get the team together.

1222
01:10:02,620 --> 01:10:06,420
It's like calling, calling up and they're all doing their own things.

1223
01:10:06,420 --> 01:10:10,220
And it's like, hey, we're like, we got to get you out of retirement

1224
01:10:10,220 --> 01:10:12,720
to get over and do this company.

1225
01:10:12,720 --> 01:10:15,320
And I loved it. So we didn't.

1226
01:10:15,320 --> 01:10:19,820
Didn't one of the girls like bring a handheld vacuum or something?

1227
01:10:19,820 --> 01:10:22,420
That's actually like, yeah, I totally get that.

1228
01:10:22,420 --> 01:10:25,820
I feel like I would do that if I didn't.

1229
01:10:25,820 --> 01:10:27,520
Yeah, he's like, I showed up. I'm here.

1230
01:10:27,520 --> 01:10:29,920
I want to participate.

1231
01:10:31,920 --> 01:10:33,220
I love that idea, too.

1232
01:10:33,220 --> 01:10:35,820
And like, yeah, like whether it's the whipped cream or just like

1233
01:10:35,820 --> 01:10:38,520
you can use what you have and it's powerful enough.

1234
01:10:38,520 --> 01:10:40,620
Yeah, like it's it's a little bit.

1235
01:10:40,620 --> 01:10:43,920
You put the yeah, you put the power into the object yourself.

1236
01:10:43,920 --> 01:10:45,320
It's about the people. Yeah.

1237
01:10:45,320 --> 01:10:49,620
I totally relate with that character like I don't have this, but I brought this.

1238
01:10:53,020 --> 01:10:54,320
Perfect.

1239
01:10:54,320 --> 01:10:56,120
They got a in there. They got a cauldron.

1240
01:10:56,120 --> 01:10:58,660
Oh, love a good call, but they don't even use it. So.

1241
01:11:02,320 --> 01:11:04,960
They probably vacuum up some of some of the ashes.

1242
01:11:04,960 --> 01:11:07,660
So the ashes, because, yeah, they all have to like at the end of it.

1243
01:11:07,660 --> 01:11:12,420
Yeah, like sweeping out of the house, like banish him or whatever.

1244
01:11:13,460 --> 01:11:15,460
Which that was like.

1245
01:11:16,260 --> 01:11:20,320
I don't know. Yeah, such a fun visual element.

1246
01:11:20,320 --> 01:11:24,220
Like it just it's in line with the witchiness of it all of, you know,

1247
01:11:24,220 --> 01:11:29,720
turning it into ash and needing to sweep out this bad stuff out of the out of.

1248
01:11:29,720 --> 01:11:32,320
The place of bad energy, it's.

1249
01:11:34,220 --> 01:11:36,920
Yeah, it's this is a fun movie.

1250
01:11:37,460 --> 01:11:39,320
Guys, this is a really fun movie.

1251
01:11:39,320 --> 01:11:42,860
Absolutely. And they get to where they they get the witchy costumes at the end.

1252
01:11:42,860 --> 01:11:46,920
They get the brooms, the community at large accepts them for who they are,

1253
01:11:46,920 --> 01:11:51,960
and they get to be their full witchy selves unabashedly.

1254
01:11:51,960 --> 01:11:54,280
I it just it's I don't know.

1255
01:11:54,280 --> 01:11:56,280
It pays pays off very well.

1256
01:11:56,280 --> 01:12:02,320
And I like the fact that it's feel good essentially throughout with, you know, the

1257
01:12:03,580 --> 01:12:09,060
a greedy scene with with a bad dude, but it really is a feel good movie.

1258
01:12:09,680 --> 01:12:11,880
It never gets never gets too down for me.

1259
01:12:12,520 --> 01:12:14,960
And yeah, I can see that I can see you watchable.

1260
01:12:14,960 --> 01:12:17,760
Oh, excellent. Oh, let's yeah.

1261
01:12:17,760 --> 01:12:19,680
Let's get into the little soundtrack talk.

1262
01:12:19,680 --> 01:12:24,360
So those there's like two original Stevie Nicks songs that were made for this movie.

1263
01:12:24,360 --> 01:12:30,380
Right. So Crystal, like the like the scene that it ends on, Crystal is actually a

1264
01:12:30,380 --> 01:12:35,020
it is a Stevie Nicks song that she wrote for Fleetwood back that Lindsay Buckingham

1265
01:12:35,020 --> 01:12:37,780
originally sang on one of their early albums.

1266
01:12:37,780 --> 01:12:40,080
And she really did this.

1267
01:12:40,080 --> 01:12:42,520
Oh, wow. Soundtrack.

1268
01:12:42,520 --> 01:12:44,920
That is cool. I love this movie.

1269
01:12:44,920 --> 01:12:46,480
I don't think you guys understand.

1270
01:12:46,480 --> 01:12:48,280
That's why you're here. This is great.

1271
01:12:48,280 --> 01:12:51,680
That's why you're here. That's why we're doing this.

1272
01:12:51,680 --> 01:12:54,480
We need more fun facts. Yeah, more fun facts.

1273
01:12:55,680 --> 01:12:57,980
I will.

1274
01:12:57,980 --> 01:13:02,760
I will stand out song wise for me was the is this real song?

1275
01:13:03,580 --> 01:13:07,080
It is very ahead of its time.

1276
01:13:07,580 --> 01:13:08,960
I like the box.

1277
01:13:08,960 --> 01:13:12,020
Oh, like the trip hoppy one, right?

1278
01:13:12,020 --> 01:13:13,860
Yeah, it's like a trip hoppy and gets it.

1279
01:13:13,860 --> 01:13:17,160
So, yeah, like by and large, I'm like instrumentalist.

1280
01:13:17,160 --> 01:13:18,660
Six hundred.

1281
01:13:18,660 --> 01:13:21,380
But it is.

1282
01:13:21,380 --> 01:13:24,860
Way ahead of its time, I was really blown away when that song came on.

1283
01:13:24,860 --> 01:13:27,720
I was like, what the fuck is this song?

1284
01:13:28,520 --> 01:13:32,380
I've never heard this song ever, and I adore it.

1285
01:13:32,380 --> 01:13:35,120
Yeah, is this real question mark?

1286
01:13:35,120 --> 01:13:36,020
Such a cool song.

1287
01:13:36,020 --> 01:13:38,380
But I mean, it's also got some real like.

1288
01:13:39,360 --> 01:13:41,020
Bangers on this as well.

1289
01:13:41,020 --> 01:13:43,560
Like, well, plays a lot of was at Faith Hill, right?

1290
01:13:44,620 --> 01:13:46,620
Yeah, this is. Yeah.

1291
01:13:46,620 --> 01:13:48,060
Oh, yeah. Yeah.

1292
01:13:48,060 --> 01:13:49,460
Oh, yeah. It gets into that.

1293
01:13:49,460 --> 01:13:53,080
And Sandra Bullock's like walking down the street in her little shorts

1294
01:13:53,080 --> 01:13:56,980
and her cowboy boots and her bangs.

1295
01:13:56,980 --> 01:13:59,780
And she's like, I'm going to go kiss my hot apple guy right now.

1296
01:14:01,120 --> 01:14:03,080
She has some great hair moments in this movie for sure.

1297
01:14:03,080 --> 01:14:05,280
Practical magic was brat before brat.

1298
01:14:06,360 --> 01:14:08,380
You heard it here first, folks.

1299
01:14:08,380 --> 01:14:10,320
You heard it here first.

1300
01:14:10,320 --> 01:14:14,180
Oh, pre-brat practical magic.

1301
01:14:14,180 --> 01:14:15,680
I think I got that.

1302
01:14:15,680 --> 01:14:17,880
Yeah, there is.

1303
01:14:17,880 --> 01:14:18,980
Yeah.

1304
01:14:18,980 --> 01:14:21,200
How do you have Joni Mitchell here?

1305
01:14:21,200 --> 01:14:23,840
Yeah, Stevie Hicks, Faith Hill.

1306
01:14:25,100 --> 01:14:26,900
I mean, Harry Nielsen.

1307
01:14:26,900 --> 01:14:28,840
Oh, my God. Yeah, hell yeah. Yeah.

1308
01:14:30,200 --> 01:14:34,180
What a great that record drop of of lime and a coconut man.

1309
01:14:36,480 --> 01:14:38,340
OK, every time I.

1310
01:14:38,340 --> 01:14:40,700
Be at that every time you watch that scene like.

1311
01:14:40,700 --> 01:14:42,240
Yeah. Yeah.

1312
01:14:42,240 --> 01:14:43,680
I love that scene.

1313
01:14:43,680 --> 01:14:45,000
Yeah, totally.

1314
01:14:45,000 --> 01:14:49,840
Also, every time the four of us are together, we have to play that song

1315
01:14:50,240 --> 01:14:52,240
and drink some margaritas.

1316
01:14:52,240 --> 01:14:54,240
Done. Done.

1317
01:14:56,440 --> 01:15:00,380
I love that it's not just margaritas to that it defaults into, you know,

1318
01:15:00,740 --> 01:15:03,240
to shots and just mix.

1319
01:15:03,240 --> 01:15:04,140
All right.

1320
01:15:04,140 --> 01:15:07,600
We're in shots and just salt on the hand and everybody's.

1321
01:15:08,240 --> 01:15:10,280
Great. It's great. It's not. Yeah.

1322
01:15:10,280 --> 01:15:12,040
You guys ready for midnight?

1323
01:15:12,040 --> 01:15:13,980
It's so natural. It's so natural.

1324
01:15:13,980 --> 01:15:14,980
That's what's.

1325
01:15:16,280 --> 01:15:17,680
All right, here we go. I'm going to play it.

1326
01:15:20,640 --> 01:15:22,440
Look at that, Adrian. My God.

1327
01:15:26,740 --> 01:15:28,240
A lot of frogs.

1328
01:15:28,880 --> 01:15:31,440
A lot of frog stuff, which I'm not a big fan of frogs.

1329
01:15:31,440 --> 01:15:33,440
I. What do you got against frogs?

1330
01:15:33,440 --> 01:15:34,440
Frogs.

1331
01:15:34,440 --> 01:15:38,140
I feel like I'm just going on.

1332
01:15:38,140 --> 01:15:40,840
I mean, I was just.

1333
01:15:40,840 --> 01:15:41,840
Yeah.

1334
01:15:43,980 --> 01:15:46,040
I'm so weirdly afraid of the touch though.

1335
01:15:46,040 --> 01:15:49,740
You're just going to like how it works like all over.

1336
01:15:49,740 --> 01:15:50,740
And you can.

1337
01:15:54,040 --> 01:15:56,240
Would you eat frog legs?

1338
01:15:58,640 --> 01:15:59,640
Delicious.

1339
01:16:00,540 --> 01:16:01,980
I recommend.

1340
01:16:01,980 --> 01:16:03,580
I feel like I've tried. Maybe I haven't.

1341
01:16:03,580 --> 01:16:05,540
I feel like it'd be like chicken.

1342
01:16:05,540 --> 01:16:08,340
Watery fishy chicken.

1343
01:16:09,380 --> 01:16:10,380
Mid-by-by.

1344
01:16:10,380 --> 01:16:13,880
Let's go.

1345
01:16:15,040 --> 01:16:16,540
It's just dancing.

1346
01:16:16,540 --> 01:16:17,540
It almost scares.

1347
01:16:20,580 --> 01:16:22,240
I love when Sandra Bullock can be good.

1348
01:16:22,240 --> 01:16:25,140
I'd like to throw one back with Diane Weiss.

1349
01:16:31,140 --> 01:16:33,140
There's a blue light coming out of the window.

1350
01:16:33,140 --> 01:16:34,140
I love it.

1351
01:16:38,140 --> 01:16:39,140
Ooh.

1352
01:16:39,140 --> 01:16:40,140
Ooh.

1353
01:16:40,140 --> 01:16:41,140
Ooh.

1354
01:16:41,140 --> 01:16:42,140
Ooh.

1355
01:16:42,140 --> 01:16:43,140
Ooh.

1356
01:16:43,140 --> 01:16:44,140
Ooh.

1357
01:16:44,140 --> 01:16:45,140
Ooh.

1358
01:16:45,140 --> 01:16:46,140
Ooh.

1359
01:16:46,140 --> 01:16:47,140
Ooh.

1360
01:16:47,140 --> 01:16:48,140
Ooh.

1361
01:16:48,140 --> 01:16:49,140
Ooh.

1362
01:16:49,140 --> 01:16:50,140
Ooh.

1363
01:16:50,140 --> 01:16:51,140
Ooh.

1364
01:16:51,140 --> 01:16:52,140
Ooh.

1365
01:16:52,140 --> 01:16:53,140
Ooh.

1366
01:16:53,140 --> 01:16:54,140
Ooh.

1367
01:16:54,140 --> 01:16:55,140
Ooh.

1368
01:16:55,140 --> 01:16:56,140
Ooh.

1369
01:16:56,140 --> 01:16:57,140
Ooh.

1370
01:16:57,140 --> 01:17:01,140
This must have been a fun day on set.

1371
01:17:01,140 --> 01:17:02,140
Don't you know.

1372
01:17:02,140 --> 01:17:04,140
Don't you know.

1373
01:17:04,140 --> 01:17:06,140
Don't you know.

1374
01:17:06,140 --> 01:17:08,140
Don't you know.

1375
01:17:08,140 --> 01:17:11,140
Don't you know.

1376
01:17:11,140 --> 01:17:12,140
Oh.

1377
01:17:12,140 --> 01:17:13,140
Oh.

1378
01:17:13,140 --> 01:17:14,140
Ooh.

1379
01:17:14,140 --> 01:17:16,140
This camera's having a great time too.

1380
01:17:16,140 --> 01:17:17,140
Oh.

1381
01:17:17,140 --> 01:17:20,980
We need to talk and let them come in the morning.

1382
01:17:20,980 --> 01:17:22,980
It's so fun.

1383
01:17:22,980 --> 01:17:25,620
Yeah, the camera goes like in a circle up the stairs.

1384
01:17:25,620 --> 01:17:26,660
And then as they're drinking, it's

1385
01:17:26,660 --> 01:17:29,740
kind of circling around them, like opposite way

1386
01:17:29,740 --> 01:17:30,580
that they're going.

1387
01:17:30,580 --> 01:17:34,100
That's, yeah, it's a fun camera work.

1388
01:17:34,100 --> 01:17:36,500
Fun movie.

1389
01:17:36,500 --> 01:17:38,860
Fun movie.

1390
01:17:38,860 --> 01:17:39,740
It really is.

1391
01:17:39,740 --> 01:17:42,300
But other fun fact, there is a second one coming out.

1392
01:17:42,300 --> 01:17:43,380
I saw that.

1393
01:17:43,380 --> 01:17:44,180
Oh, interesting.

1394
01:17:44,180 --> 01:17:45,620
It was just announced this year.

1395
01:17:45,620 --> 01:17:47,460
So it's perfect that we're talking about it.

1396
01:17:47,460 --> 01:17:48,060
How do you feel?

1397
01:17:48,060 --> 01:17:49,700
How do you feel about that, Jas?

1398
01:17:49,700 --> 01:17:50,580
Yeah.

1399
01:17:50,580 --> 01:17:53,140
So I read both books.

1400
01:17:53,140 --> 01:17:55,460
I don't know how I feel about the remake.

1401
01:17:55,460 --> 01:17:57,180
But Sandra Bullock and Nicole Kidman

1402
01:17:57,180 --> 01:17:59,380
have signed on for Pactual Magic too.

1403
01:17:59,380 --> 01:18:00,460
Nice.

1404
01:18:00,460 --> 01:18:02,300
Anyone else?

1405
01:18:02,300 --> 01:18:04,700
Do you think Evan Rachel Woods would come back?

1406
01:18:04,700 --> 01:18:06,220
I guess, no, probably not.

1407
01:18:06,220 --> 01:18:08,500
She's like two.

1408
01:18:08,500 --> 01:18:09,020
She could be.

1409
01:18:09,020 --> 01:18:10,740
Yeah, she could be one of them.

1410
01:18:10,740 --> 01:18:12,460
Sounds like the odds are still around.

1411
01:18:12,460 --> 01:18:17,300
But yeah, who knows if they'll make an appearance.

1412
01:18:17,300 --> 01:18:17,860
I'm hoping.

1413
01:18:17,860 --> 01:18:19,420
I don't know if I'll see it in theaters.

1414
01:18:19,420 --> 01:18:20,980
I'll definitely watch it, though.

1415
01:18:20,980 --> 01:18:21,660
Yeah, same.

1416
01:18:21,660 --> 01:18:22,140
Yeah.

1417
01:18:22,140 --> 01:18:22,700
I'll watch it.

1418
01:18:22,700 --> 01:18:23,300
Sure.

1419
01:18:23,300 --> 01:18:24,540
I'll watch it for sure.

1420
01:18:24,540 --> 01:18:27,820
The fact that they're together, I mean, and if we get,

1421
01:18:27,820 --> 01:18:30,300
I don't know, I know it's one of those things in sequels

1422
01:18:30,300 --> 01:18:31,860
is like, oh, they're doing the same thing in the first one.

1423
01:18:31,860 --> 01:18:34,820
But if they don't do another Midnight Margaritas scene,

1424
01:18:34,820 --> 01:18:36,940
then I will be very disappointed.

1425
01:18:36,940 --> 01:18:38,020
They better have another one.

1426
01:18:38,020 --> 01:18:39,940
I'd say.

1427
01:18:39,940 --> 01:18:42,620
I got a little list of some other fun facts.

1428
01:18:42,620 --> 01:18:44,580
The production was cursed by a real witch.

1429
01:18:47,300 --> 01:18:49,940
The making of Practical Magic got eerie when director Griffin

1430
01:18:49,940 --> 01:18:53,020
Dunn hired a real witch to serve as a consultant.

1431
01:18:53,020 --> 01:18:55,220
In return for her services, she was paid a fee

1432
01:18:55,220 --> 01:18:57,020
and put up in a nice hotel.

1433
01:18:57,020 --> 01:18:58,940
Dunn told Vulture that the witch surprised him

1434
01:18:58,940 --> 01:19:02,260
with a phone call in which she inexplicably demanded

1435
01:19:02,260 --> 01:19:03,900
a percentage of the film's profits

1436
01:19:03,900 --> 01:19:08,500
and an additional 250k payment.

1437
01:19:08,500 --> 01:19:09,060
Whoa.

1438
01:19:09,060 --> 01:19:10,700
The producers obviously wouldn't agree to this.

1439
01:19:10,700 --> 01:19:12,660
So the witch said she was going to put a curse on both

1440
01:19:12,660 --> 01:19:14,500
the movie and its director.

1441
01:19:14,500 --> 01:19:17,180
So she later left Dunn a voicemail

1442
01:19:17,180 --> 01:19:20,900
in which she threatened a land of curses,

1443
01:19:20,900 --> 01:19:23,620
then began speaking in tongues.

1444
01:19:23,620 --> 01:19:25,820
The woman also attempted to sue Warner Brothers.

1445
01:19:25,820 --> 01:19:29,300
Unnerved, the studio paid her to go away.

1446
01:19:29,300 --> 01:19:33,940
And then Griffin Dunn later on got an exorcism

1447
01:19:33,940 --> 01:19:36,540
to be sure that he could get rid of whatever curse

1448
01:19:36,540 --> 01:19:38,860
that she placed upon him.

1449
01:19:38,860 --> 01:19:41,420
Who is this witch, do you know?

1450
01:19:41,420 --> 01:19:42,780
I do not.

1451
01:19:42,780 --> 01:19:45,060
There's no name attached.

1452
01:19:45,060 --> 01:19:47,740
But they hired a real witch as a consultant.

1453
01:19:47,740 --> 01:19:48,420
They wanted to.

1454
01:19:48,420 --> 01:19:50,300
I mean, that's pretty cool.

1455
01:19:50,300 --> 01:19:52,100
That's cool.

1456
01:19:52,100 --> 01:19:54,740
Random fun fact, did you know that Guillermo del Toro has

1457
01:19:54,740 --> 01:19:56,900
undergone multiple exorcisms?

1458
01:19:56,900 --> 01:19:58,020
I did not know that.

1459
01:19:58,020 --> 01:19:59,700
I believe that.

1460
01:19:59,700 --> 01:20:00,340
I believe that.

1461
01:20:00,340 --> 01:20:00,940
Multiple.

1462
01:20:03,580 --> 01:20:07,260
My thing with it, lately I've been enjoying TV shows more

1463
01:20:07,260 --> 01:20:09,980
just because if it is a really good TV show,

1464
01:20:09,980 --> 01:20:12,580
I never want it to end.

1465
01:20:12,580 --> 01:20:13,380
No, don't worry.

1466
01:20:13,380 --> 01:20:15,660
And that's not a great argument because I

1467
01:20:15,660 --> 01:20:16,900
should be doing other things.

1468
01:20:16,900 --> 01:20:20,020
But if they're really good, it's like if you're

1469
01:20:20,020 --> 01:20:22,060
reading a really good book, you don't want it to end.

1470
01:20:22,060 --> 01:20:28,140
Or if it's a series, you want to keep reading the series.

1471
01:20:28,140 --> 01:20:30,340
That's where I have the problem sometimes,

1472
01:20:30,340 --> 01:20:34,460
and nowadays, especially, I hate to say it in this way,

1473
01:20:34,460 --> 01:20:37,980
but cancel culture in the aspect of Netflix

1474
01:20:37,980 --> 01:20:40,100
canceling a show after one season.

1475
01:20:40,100 --> 01:20:43,180
I have just invested eight hours,

1476
01:20:43,180 --> 01:20:45,100
and there is no clear cut ending.

1477
01:20:45,100 --> 01:20:46,940
And so that's why there are certain ones where I'm like,

1478
01:20:46,940 --> 01:20:48,660
I'm not even going to start it because I just need to know

1479
01:20:48,660 --> 01:20:51,900
if it has an ending after three seasons

1480
01:20:51,900 --> 01:20:54,180
and if it was worth my time.

1481
01:20:54,180 --> 01:20:57,380
I find myself watching shows that I'll wait for them

1482
01:20:57,380 --> 01:21:00,220
to go through their run, and people are really into it.

1483
01:21:00,220 --> 01:21:00,940
And then it ends.

1484
01:21:00,940 --> 01:21:02,020
I'm like, does it have a good ending?

1485
01:21:02,020 --> 01:21:02,860
And they tell me yes.

1486
01:21:02,860 --> 01:21:04,540
And I'm like, OK, I will start succession.

1487
01:21:04,540 --> 01:21:05,220
That sounds good.

1488
01:21:05,220 --> 01:21:07,260
Yeah, it's five seasons.

1489
01:21:07,260 --> 01:21:08,180
It's going to end well.

1490
01:21:08,180 --> 01:21:09,540
Hell, yeah, let's go.

1491
01:21:09,540 --> 01:21:11,620
And then I finish it a year after everyone's

1492
01:21:11,620 --> 01:21:14,020
done talking about it, and no one cares anymore.

1493
01:21:14,020 --> 01:21:18,700
But it's a good show, and I know it's going to be good.

1494
01:21:18,700 --> 01:21:21,660
I really just said that I just finished Travelers.

1495
01:21:21,660 --> 01:21:23,460
On me, I wanted to start that.

1496
01:21:23,460 --> 01:21:25,380
Is it good?

1497
01:21:25,380 --> 01:21:27,300
It is good.

1498
01:21:27,300 --> 01:21:27,940
No, it's good.

1499
01:21:27,940 --> 01:21:30,660
And it has a clear cut ending.

1500
01:21:30,660 --> 01:21:32,500
OK, OK, cool.

1501
01:21:32,500 --> 01:21:34,580
Wait, I feel like you and I like the same things,

1502
01:21:34,580 --> 01:21:37,180
because after watching Dark, I was like,

1503
01:21:37,180 --> 01:21:40,300
I just want to watch anything that's similar to Dark.

1504
01:21:40,300 --> 01:21:43,300
And then there's not a lot of things close to Dark.

1505
01:21:43,300 --> 01:21:45,340
But I liked Archive 81.

1506
01:21:45,340 --> 01:21:49,300
I thought that was in a similar vein.

1507
01:21:49,300 --> 01:21:51,900
What else is spooky?

1508
01:21:51,900 --> 01:21:53,020
I don't know.

1509
01:21:53,020 --> 01:21:54,220
A lot of Flanagan stuff.

1510
01:21:54,220 --> 01:21:58,540
Like I devoured, like, Follow the House of Usher,

1511
01:21:58,540 --> 01:22:01,940
devoured Midnight Mass.

1512
01:22:01,940 --> 01:22:04,060
Yeah, like you said.

1513
01:22:04,060 --> 01:22:06,860
Follow the House of Usher was arguably some of my favorite.

1514
01:22:06,860 --> 01:22:08,980
It was like, arguably one of my favorite retellings

1515
01:22:08,980 --> 01:22:10,780
of an Edgar Allen post, right?

1516
01:22:10,780 --> 01:22:13,220
I'm like, this was phenomenal.

1517
01:22:13,220 --> 01:22:14,580
Yeah, absolutely.

1518
01:22:14,580 --> 01:22:16,500
Yeah, I agree.

1519
01:22:16,500 --> 01:22:18,900
Just a huge fan of that guy, because I don't know.

1520
01:22:18,900 --> 01:22:23,060
It's just, he's a really good writer.

1521
01:22:23,060 --> 01:22:24,660
He's such a good collaborator.

1522
01:22:24,660 --> 01:22:26,980
So there's like all of the characters and actors

1523
01:22:26,980 --> 01:22:32,740
that he works with make the character, like, do well to bring

1524
01:22:32,740 --> 01:22:36,860
his good writing even more texture and even more interest.

1525
01:22:36,860 --> 01:22:42,620
And then it also, too, he's like, it's a limited series.

1526
01:22:42,620 --> 01:22:45,340
It comes out and it's kind of the beginning and an end.

1527
01:22:45,340 --> 01:22:47,780
And it usually happens in one season.

1528
01:22:47,780 --> 01:22:49,380
And that's the kind of stuff that will

1529
01:22:49,380 --> 01:22:52,220
get me to watch a television show is when things are set up

1530
01:22:52,220 --> 01:22:54,780
like that.

1531
01:22:54,780 --> 01:22:56,220
Midnight Mass is incredible.

1532
01:22:56,220 --> 01:22:59,820
I've been wanting to, well, I kind of started rewatching

1533
01:22:59,820 --> 01:23:02,980
Haunting of Hell House, but I want to get back into it

1534
01:23:02,980 --> 01:23:05,620
and finish it, because that's just so good.

1535
01:23:05,620 --> 01:23:06,420
It's so good.

1536
01:23:06,420 --> 01:23:06,900
Good.

1537
01:23:06,900 --> 01:23:07,400
Yeah.

1538
01:23:09,900 --> 01:23:11,100
We're looking, James, I can check this out.

1539
01:23:11,100 --> 01:23:11,580
Oh, we are.

1540
01:23:11,580 --> 01:23:11,980
All good.

1541
01:23:11,980 --> 01:23:14,500
I'm probably just going to keep all this in.

1542
01:23:14,500 --> 01:23:15,540
Welcome back, everybody.

1543
01:23:15,540 --> 01:23:18,940
I think we cut off sometime around the Guillermo del Toro

1544
01:23:18,940 --> 01:23:21,900
exorcism.

1545
01:23:21,900 --> 01:23:24,700
Fun fact, so I don't know if you wanted to finish that thought,

1546
01:23:24,700 --> 01:23:27,060
because I don't know if we got the end of it,

1547
01:23:27,060 --> 01:23:28,980
if there was any.

1548
01:23:28,980 --> 01:23:32,140
And that alone is a fun fact.

1549
01:23:32,140 --> 01:23:34,500
I think you were rattling off a couple of fun facts

1550
01:23:34,500 --> 01:23:37,100
about the movie.

1551
01:23:37,100 --> 01:23:41,860
The witch that cursed the movie.

1552
01:23:41,860 --> 01:23:42,500
She cursed it.

1553
01:23:42,500 --> 01:23:46,580
And then apparently, Gryffindun got exorcised.

1554
01:23:46,580 --> 01:23:48,820
Yeah, they got tipsy for the midnight margaritas.

1555
01:23:48,820 --> 01:23:51,620
Yeah, I guess Sandra Bullock did this because Speed 2 bombed,

1556
01:23:51,620 --> 01:23:56,540
and she wanted to do more, yeah, toned down romantic,

1557
01:23:56,540 --> 01:23:59,540
like not big summer blockbuster movies, you know,

1558
01:23:59,540 --> 01:24:03,220
something a little smaller.

1559
01:24:03,220 --> 01:24:05,860
How Aiden Quinn got his role, Denise D'Novi,

1560
01:24:05,860 --> 01:24:08,060
practical magic's producer, told the Chicago Tribune

1561
01:24:08,060 --> 01:24:09,740
that she had a very specific reason for wanting

1562
01:24:09,740 --> 01:24:10,780
to cast the actor in the role.

1563
01:24:10,780 --> 01:24:12,300
Namely, he had the same qualities

1564
01:24:12,300 --> 01:24:14,820
as a certain Hollywood star, but he was a little bit more

1565
01:24:14,820 --> 01:24:16,920
of a

1566
01:24:16,920 --> 01:24:19,900
he had the same qualities as a certain Hollywood legend.

1567
01:24:19,900 --> 01:24:23,060
We wanted a Gary Cooper kind of guy, quiet.

1568
01:24:23,060 --> 01:24:26,060
Tazza Turn, she said, referring to the star of High Noon

1569
01:24:26,060 --> 01:24:26,740
and Meet John Doe.

1570
01:24:26,740 --> 01:24:31,380
He radiates goodness, but he's manly, too.

1571
01:24:31,380 --> 01:24:32,660
Totally.

1572
01:24:32,660 --> 01:24:37,220
The composer's score was thrown out last minute.

1573
01:24:37,220 --> 01:24:41,380
There was a different composer, Michael Meiman,

1574
01:24:41,380 --> 01:24:43,020
who's been nominated for three Golden Globes

1575
01:24:43,020 --> 01:24:46,820
and a dozen other awards was hired by Gryffindun.

1576
01:24:46,820 --> 01:24:49,220
Which he told Soundtrack.net was the best score

1577
01:24:49,220 --> 01:24:52,860
I think I've ever in for a film that engaged me, not at all.

1578
01:24:52,860 --> 01:24:55,340
And when Dunn turned his gun into Warner Brothers Pictures,

1579
01:24:55,340 --> 01:24:58,660
the studio executives felt it had some significant problems

1580
01:24:58,660 --> 01:25:00,140
and the music was one of them.

1581
01:25:00,140 --> 01:25:02,580
They ordered Dunn to dump Niemann's work

1582
01:25:02,580 --> 01:25:05,220
and another well-known composer, Alvin Silvestri,

1583
01:25:05,220 --> 01:25:09,060
was brought in to quickly compose a new score.

1584
01:25:09,060 --> 01:25:12,340
So they just dumped that dude's work.

1585
01:25:12,340 --> 01:25:14,380
Wasn't easy to build the mansion.

1586
01:25:14,380 --> 01:25:15,980
I think I mentioned a little bit earlier,

1587
01:25:15,980 --> 01:25:19,020
you might have hopped off for a second, Jas,

1588
01:25:19,020 --> 01:25:22,740
but yeah, the mansion was just like essentially

1589
01:25:22,740 --> 01:25:27,740
a hollow house that was put on the spot in Washington.

1590
01:25:28,500 --> 01:25:31,780
And they didn't want to dig into the ground

1591
01:25:31,780 --> 01:25:33,760
because it was Native American soil.

1592
01:25:33,760 --> 01:25:35,600
So they put a platform right on top

1593
01:25:35,600 --> 01:25:37,460
and put the house on top of that,

1594
01:25:37,460 --> 01:25:41,500
as to not disturb the soil.

1595
01:25:41,500 --> 01:25:42,960
And they tore it down at the end

1596
01:25:42,960 --> 01:25:45,340
and all the interior is from a set in Hollywood,

1597
01:25:45,340 --> 01:25:47,620
but it fooled one Barbara Streisand

1598
01:25:47,620 --> 01:25:49,980
who wanted to buy the house and she could not.

1599
01:25:51,260 --> 01:25:52,100
Because she liked it so much.

1600
01:25:52,100 --> 01:25:52,940
Sorry, Babs.

1601
01:25:52,940 --> 01:25:53,780
Sorry, Babs.

1602
01:25:53,780 --> 01:25:54,780
Sorry, Babs.

1603
01:25:56,380 --> 01:25:57,220
So sorry, Babs.

1604
01:25:57,220 --> 01:25:58,060
You can't have it.

1605
01:25:58,060 --> 01:26:00,380
You can't have the practical magic in it.

1606
01:26:00,380 --> 01:26:01,740
You can't have the shopping mall.

1607
01:26:01,740 --> 01:26:03,740
Right, yeah, you're, what is it,

1608
01:26:03,740 --> 01:26:07,180
a Nordstrom's in her basement or something like that?

1609
01:26:07,180 --> 01:26:08,020
Crazy.

1610
01:26:08,020 --> 01:26:09,560
You got, Jas, do you know that?

1611
01:26:09,560 --> 01:26:11,740
I think, Carl, we've talked about it.

1612
01:26:11,740 --> 01:26:15,460
We've talked about the Nordstrom's in Babs' house.

1613
01:26:15,460 --> 01:26:16,900
No, yeah, no.

1614
01:26:18,300 --> 01:26:19,540
Educating.

1615
01:26:19,540 --> 01:26:21,620
So Babs, you know,

1616
01:26:24,340 --> 01:26:29,340
height of power, built a shopping floor

1617
01:26:29,720 --> 01:26:33,940
of a Nordstrom cement so that she could

1618
01:26:34,860 --> 01:26:37,860
get the experience of shopping in a department store

1619
01:26:37,860 --> 01:26:40,460
without anybody bothering her essentially.

1620
01:26:40,460 --> 01:26:43,300
And so it's a-

1621
01:26:43,300 --> 01:26:45,300
I get that too, I get that too.

1622
01:26:45,300 --> 01:26:48,220
Yeah, it's a, yeah.

1623
01:26:48,220 --> 01:26:50,860
It's just, it's so interesting to think about having

1624
01:26:52,260 --> 01:26:54,440
a place in your house, like if you are gonna do that,

1625
01:26:54,440 --> 01:26:56,900
that means you are gonna get items of clothing

1626
01:26:56,900 --> 01:27:00,700
that aren't your size to fill up the space

1627
01:27:00,700 --> 01:27:02,140
unless you get everything your size.

1628
01:27:02,140 --> 01:27:03,960
So anything you grab off the rack, it fits you.

1629
01:27:03,960 --> 01:27:06,140
But I'm sure you want the real experience where like,

1630
01:27:06,140 --> 01:27:07,720
well, I gotta try this on.

1631
01:27:07,720 --> 01:27:09,720
Could you imagine?

1632
01:27:09,720 --> 01:27:12,080
She's like, I love this, but it's not in my size.

1633
01:27:12,080 --> 01:27:15,480
Do you get shipped to my place?

1634
01:27:15,480 --> 01:27:19,480
And her and her might be like, I gotta love this.

1635
01:27:19,480 --> 01:27:21,000
This is so great.

1636
01:27:21,000 --> 01:27:21,840
I'm getting off right now.

1637
01:27:21,840 --> 01:27:23,960
This is exactly what I want.

1638
01:27:23,960 --> 01:27:26,080
Do you guys have this in the back stock?

1639
01:27:27,400 --> 01:27:28,320
Let me go check.

1640
01:27:30,160 --> 01:27:32,640
So, so crazy and silly.

1641
01:27:33,480 --> 01:27:34,320
Oh, Babs.

1642
01:27:34,320 --> 01:27:37,040
Yeah, that's weird, weird flex, but okay, Babs.

1643
01:27:37,040 --> 01:27:40,240
I mean, yeah, he's one of the most famous people ever.

1644
01:27:41,320 --> 01:27:43,080
So it's the age of Neverland, I guess,

1645
01:27:43,080 --> 01:27:46,880
and just creating constructs in your house

1646
01:27:46,880 --> 01:27:51,880
to relive childhood things that you didn't get to experience.

1647
01:27:51,960 --> 01:27:56,520
Yeah, to mimic the world that you could just go out

1648
01:27:56,520 --> 01:27:57,640
and experience.

1649
01:27:57,640 --> 01:27:58,600
Yeah.

1650
01:27:58,600 --> 01:28:01,940
But you don't want, yeah, she just didn't wanna be noticed

1651
01:28:01,940 --> 01:28:04,000
or like bothered by anybody.

1652
01:28:04,000 --> 01:28:06,760
So I guess you just hire actors to shop around with you

1653
01:28:06,760 --> 01:28:08,360
and just not talk, like don't fucking talk

1654
01:28:08,360 --> 01:28:09,640
and don't look at me.

1655
01:28:09,640 --> 01:28:11,640
And it was like before online shopping.

1656
01:28:11,640 --> 01:28:13,640
So she had to do this.

1657
01:28:13,640 --> 01:28:14,480
Yeah, over.

1658
01:28:14,480 --> 01:28:16,160
Do you think Babs is doing that now?

1659
01:28:16,160 --> 01:28:18,680
She's just online, just like, I used to have a mob

1660
01:28:20,600 --> 01:28:23,280
in my house and now I'm just on this website.

1661
01:28:23,280 --> 01:28:24,600
What's a website anyways?

1662
01:28:26,040 --> 01:28:29,280
All you new celebrities, you just get whatever you want,

1663
01:28:29,280 --> 01:28:30,640
shipped to your house.

1664
01:28:30,640 --> 01:28:32,360
I had to have it stocked.

1665
01:28:32,360 --> 01:28:33,200
Yeah.

1666
01:28:33,200 --> 01:28:36,960
And search for it.

1667
01:28:36,960 --> 01:28:39,320
Ask John Peters, he'll know.

1668
01:28:39,320 --> 01:28:41,160
Can you imagine her as an influencer?

1669
01:28:41,160 --> 01:28:42,440
She's like, thank you.

1670
01:28:43,320 --> 01:28:46,480
Thank you, Lululemon for sending this to me.

1671
01:28:46,480 --> 01:28:47,640
Uh huh, right.

1672
01:28:49,240 --> 01:28:51,360
She should probably just buy them all.

1673
01:28:52,960 --> 01:28:53,800
Yeah.

1674
01:28:54,800 --> 01:28:56,120
She could definitely buy them all.

1675
01:28:56,120 --> 01:28:57,480
Yeah.

1676
01:28:57,480 --> 01:28:59,000
Especially these days, man,

1677
01:28:59,000 --> 01:29:01,800
balls are probably going through pretty cheap.

1678
01:29:01,800 --> 01:29:03,400
We could all probably buy them all.

1679
01:29:05,280 --> 01:29:06,240
Let's write that move.

1680
01:29:06,240 --> 01:29:07,920
We just all like get it.

1681
01:29:07,920 --> 01:29:10,040
John Krasinski, we have an idea.

1682
01:29:10,040 --> 01:29:11,240
Get them all.

1683
01:29:11,240 --> 01:29:12,160
Matt Demon.

1684
01:29:12,160 --> 01:29:13,560
We brought them all.

1685
01:29:13,560 --> 01:29:14,560
We bought them all.

1686
01:29:17,120 --> 01:29:18,760
The sequel to We Bought a Zoo.

1687
01:29:18,760 --> 01:29:19,600
Exactly.

1688
01:29:19,600 --> 01:29:20,440
Yeah, right.

1689
01:29:20,440 --> 01:29:21,280
Exactly.

1690
01:29:21,280 --> 01:29:22,120
Let's put a little question mark at the end.

1691
01:29:22,120 --> 01:29:23,360
We bought a mall?

1692
01:29:23,360 --> 01:29:24,200
Mall?

1693
01:29:25,840 --> 01:29:27,560
It's in the poster?

1694
01:29:27,560 --> 01:29:28,400
That's us.

1695
01:29:29,400 --> 01:29:30,880
It's us, just like.

1696
01:29:30,880 --> 01:29:32,280
Uh oh, what do we do now?

1697
01:29:32,280 --> 01:29:33,200
We did it.

1698
01:29:34,800 --> 01:29:36,240
Well, stinkers.

1699
01:29:36,240 --> 01:29:37,560
Stinkers, we'll get us.

1700
01:29:37,560 --> 01:29:38,640
It's not an indoor mall.

1701
01:29:38,640 --> 01:29:39,560
It's not an outdoor mall.

1702
01:29:39,560 --> 01:29:41,800
It's actually a strip mall in Temecula.

1703
01:29:41,800 --> 01:29:42,640
Yeah, I'm right.

1704
01:29:42,640 --> 01:29:43,480
Yeah.

1705
01:29:45,000 --> 01:29:46,200
Imagine what we could do.

1706
01:29:46,200 --> 01:29:47,040
Anything.

1707
01:29:48,240 --> 01:29:50,080
Could really do anything.

1708
01:29:50,080 --> 01:29:51,840
I'd make a fun house.

1709
01:29:51,840 --> 01:29:55,040
That's what I'd do with part of the section of it.

1710
01:29:55,040 --> 01:29:58,240
I know I'd make a mall-sized fun house.

1711
01:29:58,240 --> 01:29:59,440
It's a whole mall.

1712
01:29:59,440 --> 01:30:01,080
It's a fun mall.

1713
01:30:01,080 --> 01:30:02,880
It's with goofy mirrors and shit.

1714
01:30:02,880 --> 01:30:05,640
Yeah, just a huge mirror.

1715
01:30:05,640 --> 01:30:08,760
Just the mirror part and throughout the whole mall.

1716
01:30:08,760 --> 01:30:11,080
And if you get lost, you're lost for days.

1717
01:30:12,720 --> 01:30:16,560
But during October, it has to be a haunted mall.

1718
01:30:16,560 --> 01:30:17,400
Yes.

1719
01:30:17,400 --> 01:30:18,840
It's experience.

1720
01:30:18,840 --> 01:30:19,680
Yes.

1721
01:30:19,680 --> 01:30:21,480
Spirit Halloween takes over the whole mall.

1722
01:30:21,480 --> 01:30:23,280
Oh my God, could you imagine?

1723
01:30:23,280 --> 01:30:25,920
I'm gonna do like a Red Bull event there

1724
01:30:25,920 --> 01:30:30,760
and have like skydivers land in it while dirt bikes

1725
01:30:30,760 --> 01:30:34,440
do loops around them, some Red Bull shit, you know?

1726
01:30:34,440 --> 01:30:35,600
Yeah, Red Bull shit.

1727
01:30:35,600 --> 01:30:36,920
You know the Red Bull shit.

1728
01:30:36,920 --> 01:30:38,320
Yeah, I do, yeah.

1729
01:30:38,320 --> 01:30:39,160
Just call him Red Bull.

1730
01:30:39,160 --> 01:30:40,960
He's like, do you some, I got this abandoned mall.

1731
01:30:40,960 --> 01:30:43,000
You guys wanna do some Red Bull shit over here?

1732
01:30:44,800 --> 01:30:45,840
I wanna do some Red Bull shit.

1733
01:30:45,840 --> 01:30:47,320
That's how that stuff happens, right?

1734
01:30:47,320 --> 01:30:49,640
Well, those are all my fun facts about practical magic.

1735
01:30:49,640 --> 01:30:50,480
Do you guys got anything else

1736
01:30:50,480 --> 01:30:53,080
before we hear what the critics and audience

1737
01:30:53,080 --> 01:30:55,840
have to say on Round Tomatoes?

1738
01:30:55,840 --> 01:30:57,920
I'm looking at my notes.

1739
01:30:57,920 --> 01:31:01,600
One fun fact, or one little bit that I found very fun

1740
01:31:01,600 --> 01:31:06,600
is Aiden Quinn is like over for the tea party

1741
01:31:08,160 --> 01:31:12,040
and he makes pancakes in their cactus shape,

1742
01:31:12,040 --> 01:31:14,320
which I thought was the really interesting choice

1743
01:31:14,320 --> 01:31:15,240
of cactus shape.

1744
01:31:15,240 --> 01:31:18,440
And then there's this whole bit about the daughter being like,

1745
01:31:18,440 --> 01:31:20,960
oh my God, he knows how to flip pancakes.

1746
01:31:20,960 --> 01:31:23,880
And then she runs out, runs out of the way.

1747
01:31:23,880 --> 01:31:26,440
She's like, guys, we can't poison him.

1748
01:31:26,440 --> 01:31:28,160
He knows how to flip the pancakes.

1749
01:31:28,160 --> 01:31:32,840
He's perfect for mom.

1750
01:31:34,480 --> 01:31:38,360
Flipping pancakes, I just thought was just such a fun

1751
01:31:38,360 --> 01:31:41,600
characteristic to be what he about.

1752
01:31:41,600 --> 01:31:44,000
I do like in that list of characteristics

1753
01:31:44,000 --> 01:31:46,320
of like the perfect man that couldn't exist,

1754
01:31:46,320 --> 01:31:49,400
just flipping pancakes and riding a horse backwards.

1755
01:31:49,400 --> 01:31:51,640
Oh my God, absolutely.

1756
01:31:51,640 --> 01:31:53,360
Two different color eyes or whatever.

1757
01:31:53,360 --> 01:31:55,680
It would have been cool if that was very obvious.

1758
01:31:55,680 --> 01:31:58,000
So if he just had two different colored eyes.

1759
01:32:00,320 --> 01:32:02,320
That was one of the things, right, Carla?

1760
01:32:02,320 --> 01:32:04,600
Yeah, but it didn't look like he had

1761
01:32:04,600 --> 01:32:05,720
two different colored eyes.

1762
01:32:05,720 --> 01:32:09,800
So I was like, hmm, he isn't Mr. Perfect after all.

1763
01:32:09,800 --> 01:32:10,640
Yeah.

1764
01:32:10,640 --> 01:32:11,480
A little slam.

1765
01:32:12,440 --> 01:32:14,000
He doesn't need to be Mr. Perfect.

1766
01:32:14,000 --> 01:32:15,920
He just needs to be perfect for you.

1767
01:32:17,120 --> 01:32:18,240
Mr. All right.

1768
01:32:18,240 --> 01:32:19,760
Mr. Right now.

1769
01:32:19,760 --> 01:32:20,600
Right now.

1770
01:32:20,600 --> 01:32:21,360
Mr.

1771
01:32:21,360 --> 01:32:22,200
Mr. Accepted.

1772
01:32:22,200 --> 01:32:23,680
Me out of jail free card.

1773
01:32:25,480 --> 01:32:26,320
Mr. Adequate.

1774
01:32:28,040 --> 01:32:29,120
All right, sure.

1775
01:32:33,360 --> 01:32:34,920
There's a line in the movie that

1776
01:32:34,920 --> 01:32:37,440
when it's being a slut of crime in this country.

1777
01:32:37,440 --> 01:32:38,280
I love that.

1778
01:32:38,280 --> 01:32:40,000
It's pretty crazy.

1779
01:32:40,000 --> 01:32:42,520
It was, it was from Nicole Kidman.

1780
01:32:42,520 --> 01:32:45,320
I think Nicole Kidman said yeah.

1781
01:32:45,320 --> 01:32:47,240
But I like how they call each other sluts

1782
01:32:47,240 --> 01:32:49,160
and midnight margaritas and they start laughing at it.

1783
01:32:49,160 --> 01:32:50,000
Yep.

1784
01:32:50,000 --> 01:32:50,840
That was funny.

1785
01:32:50,840 --> 01:32:52,480
Yeah, it is.

1786
01:32:52,480 --> 01:32:55,000
I do love Nicole Kidman scene where she like

1787
01:32:55,000 --> 01:32:58,240
walks in the PTA and she's like, hold on to your husband.

1788
01:32:58,240 --> 01:32:59,080
Yeah.

1789
01:32:59,080 --> 01:33:00,120
Yeah, that was fun.

1790
01:33:00,120 --> 01:33:01,280
That was good.

1791
01:33:01,280 --> 01:33:02,120
That was good.

1792
01:33:02,120 --> 01:33:02,960
Yeah.

1793
01:33:02,960 --> 01:33:03,960
I like that.

1794
01:33:03,960 --> 01:33:04,800
Yeah.

1795
01:33:04,800 --> 01:33:05,640
Yeah.

1796
01:33:07,000 --> 01:33:09,520
I mean, it's, Nicole Kidman is funny to me

1797
01:33:09,520 --> 01:33:13,360
because she is like so incredibly statuesque

1798
01:33:13,360 --> 01:33:15,800
that it is kind of, it's gotta be a little bit like that

1799
01:33:15,800 --> 01:33:20,800
where her is like in like normal life or whatever.

1800
01:33:21,640 --> 01:33:24,600
Most people are gonna be like, who the hell is that person?

1801
01:33:24,600 --> 01:33:26,840
They look like they're from another planet.

1802
01:33:27,800 --> 01:33:30,320
Yeah, she's on another level.

1803
01:33:31,920 --> 01:33:32,760
She's so tall.

1804
01:33:32,760 --> 01:33:35,240
That's why she's on that, on the next level up.

1805
01:33:36,360 --> 01:33:39,320
And 98, she was still like definitely still married

1806
01:33:39,320 --> 01:33:40,840
to Tom Cruise, right?

1807
01:33:40,840 --> 01:33:41,760
Oh, was she?

1808
01:33:41,760 --> 01:33:42,600
Probably.

1809
01:33:42,600 --> 01:33:43,440
Probably.

1810
01:33:43,440 --> 01:33:45,200
Was it Days of Thunder or something when they,

1811
01:33:45,200 --> 01:33:47,040
yeah, I think so.

1812
01:33:47,040 --> 01:33:49,800
She looks like Eyes Wide Shut era.

1813
01:33:49,800 --> 01:33:50,640
Yeah.

1814
01:33:51,840 --> 01:33:54,480
Yeah, I feel like he's working on Magnolia

1815
01:33:54,480 --> 01:33:57,600
and like she's doing practical magic.

1816
01:33:57,600 --> 01:33:58,440
Yeah.

1817
01:33:58,440 --> 01:33:59,280
Yeah.

1818
01:33:59,280 --> 01:34:00,120
That's a good place.

1819
01:34:00,120 --> 01:34:02,760
She is still acting a lot.

1820
01:34:02,760 --> 01:34:06,360
Nicole Kidman is working a fuck load.

1821
01:34:06,360 --> 01:34:07,800
She's in everything.

1822
01:34:07,800 --> 01:34:11,680
She's in a lot of like TV shows,

1823
01:34:11,680 --> 01:34:12,920
constantly coming out with like,

1824
01:34:12,920 --> 01:34:16,040
not only being a recurring character on like

1825
01:34:16,040 --> 01:34:19,360
Big Little Lies, but also them being in like

1826
01:34:19,360 --> 01:34:22,360
limited series television shows

1827
01:34:22,360 --> 01:34:24,840
and then also in movies.

1828
01:34:24,840 --> 01:34:28,280
And ABC, AMC's commercial.

1829
01:34:28,280 --> 01:34:29,720
And they're all so fat.

1830
01:34:29,720 --> 01:34:32,000
Heartbreak does feel good in a place like this.

1831
01:34:32,000 --> 01:34:34,560
I mean her most iconic role, some might argue.

1832
01:34:34,560 --> 01:34:36,920
I think that is her most iconic role.

1833
01:34:36,920 --> 01:34:41,080
That's how the next generation knows her.

1834
01:34:41,080 --> 01:34:41,920
Yes.

1835
01:34:43,480 --> 01:34:45,960
Us millennials are like, Oh, practical magic.

1836
01:34:45,960 --> 01:34:47,080
You don't even know.

1837
01:34:48,280 --> 01:34:49,520
At least now I say that.

1838
01:34:52,000 --> 01:34:55,160
Yeah, I think I guess the kazoo thing was kind of funny

1839
01:34:55,160 --> 01:34:57,400
that I was like one of my notes was like,

1840
01:34:57,400 --> 01:34:59,120
she's playing the kazoo and then she's like,

1841
01:34:59,120 --> 01:34:59,960
Hey, can I see that?

1842
01:34:59,960 --> 01:35:02,080
And she just throws it and there's like a sad little kazoo

1843
01:35:02,080 --> 01:35:03,680
noise that comes out as she throws it.

1844
01:35:03,680 --> 01:35:04,520
It's like.

1845
01:35:04,520 --> 01:35:08,160
That was like really funny.

1846
01:35:08,160 --> 01:35:09,920
And then that guy like that comes into the story.

1847
01:35:09,920 --> 01:35:14,080
He's like, I put it on my head and it doesn't work.

1848
01:35:14,080 --> 01:35:17,000
And she's like, you're not supposed to put it on your head.

1849
01:35:17,000 --> 01:35:19,920
And she's like, if not on my head, then where?

1850
01:35:20,840 --> 01:35:21,680
And they all look at him.

1851
01:35:21,680 --> 01:35:24,320
There's like an awkward pause.

1852
01:35:24,320 --> 01:35:28,360
And he just like goes, Oh, and walks away.

1853
01:35:29,920 --> 01:35:32,440
It's not on his head, but somewhere else.

1854
01:35:32,440 --> 01:35:35,480
He figured it out after being a Karen about it.

1855
01:35:36,680 --> 01:35:39,280
I do like the scene where

1856
01:35:39,280 --> 01:35:41,880
where what's his name, Aiden?

1857
01:35:43,760 --> 01:35:44,720
Aiden is confronting.

1858
01:35:44,720 --> 01:35:46,400
He's like, did you kill him?

1859
01:35:46,400 --> 01:35:47,800
She's like, yeah, twice.

1860
01:35:47,800 --> 01:35:50,080
Yeah, totally.

1861
01:35:50,080 --> 01:35:51,720
He's like, what?

1862
01:35:51,720 --> 01:35:56,520
You lied to him, which is like, oh, that's so fun, too.

1863
01:35:56,760 --> 01:35:58,160
There's like this ticking time.

1864
01:35:58,160 --> 01:36:04,320
It's like one of those like, yeah, that concept of, you know,

1865
01:36:04,320 --> 01:36:10,040
we got to kind of keep her away from him because if she gets like in his sphere,

1866
01:36:10,040 --> 01:36:13,000
then she's just going to spill the beans on all the things that are going on.

1867
01:36:13,280 --> 01:36:17,200
And which just creates tension in such a fucking fun way.

1868
01:36:17,200 --> 01:36:18,920
Man, I can't say this about this.

1869
01:36:18,920 --> 01:36:21,200
We've got a lot of fun shit going on.

1870
01:36:21,760 --> 01:36:26,240
It's so fun, which is crazy to me that on Rotten Tomatoes,

1871
01:36:26,240 --> 01:36:28,400
it is a 25 percent by the critics.

1872
01:36:28,400 --> 01:36:30,720
That is so fucking insanely low.

1873
01:36:30,720 --> 01:36:34,720
It blows my mind that it had that is like it is represented that way.

1874
01:36:34,720 --> 01:36:39,920
Like, I don't think it was like the most successful upon release either.

1875
01:36:40,000 --> 01:36:42,000
Maybe I mean, especially with those numbers,

1876
01:36:42,000 --> 01:36:45,320
but it must have just like been a big VHS,

1877
01:36:45,320 --> 01:36:49,920
DVD sort of rewatch for for the audience, because 73 percent.

1878
01:36:49,920 --> 01:36:52,600
I mean, that's I mean, that's one of the bigger disparities for

1879
01:36:53,840 --> 01:36:55,040
us here at the podcast.

1880
01:36:55,040 --> 01:36:59,640
I feel like that we've that we see like it's a very much fits

1881
01:36:59,760 --> 01:37:00,880
what we're trying to do here.

1882
01:37:00,880 --> 01:37:03,440
So I don't know. Yeah, that just that surprised me.

1883
01:37:03,440 --> 01:37:07,240
And I'm going to read a few reviews from these critics here

1884
01:37:07,240 --> 01:37:09,920
and get a little taste of maybe why they didn't like it.

1885
01:37:10,680 --> 01:37:14,080
Jamie Bernard from New York Daily News gave it a one out of four

1886
01:37:14,440 --> 01:37:16,880
and said, it doesn't seem as if there was much communication

1887
01:37:16,880 --> 01:37:20,920
between the three screenwriters who are credited with adapting Alice Hoffman's novel.

1888
01:37:20,920 --> 01:37:26,640
Perhaps they should have tried ESP.

1889
01:37:26,640 --> 01:37:28,640
Alice. Nailed it.

1890
01:37:29,640 --> 01:37:34,040
Angie Arrigo Empire Magazine, two out of five.

1891
01:37:34,040 --> 01:37:38,840
It toodles along being cute, but to further its notions of sisterhood

1892
01:37:38,840 --> 01:37:43,840
and the power of women, it also takes a spin through Thelma and Louise territory,

1893
01:37:43,840 --> 01:37:47,960
then revisits the exorcist to up the supernatural content.

1894
01:37:48,320 --> 01:37:50,040
It's enough to make your head spin.

1895
01:37:50,040 --> 01:37:53,840
I guess it is a little film on Lucy.

1896
01:37:53,920 --> 01:37:56,120
I don't know a little bit.

1897
01:37:56,120 --> 01:38:00,240
The killings on the guy just because two women.

1898
01:38:00,960 --> 01:38:02,560
Yeah, I don't know.

1899
01:38:02,560 --> 01:38:04,040
They kill a guy.

1900
01:38:04,040 --> 01:38:06,960
It's it's a killer guy. Yeah, it's yeah.

1901
01:38:07,000 --> 01:38:10,160
It's that of like, yeah, yeah.

1902
01:38:10,640 --> 01:38:14,800
I guess it's like contemporary at that time to make that comparison or whatever.

1903
01:38:14,800 --> 01:38:19,800
That's it. Rita Kempley, Washington Post.

1904
01:38:20,200 --> 01:38:23,680
Though the tale is not without its charms, its spell is repeatedly broken

1905
01:38:23,680 --> 01:38:27,360
by the random pace and tone.

1906
01:38:28,440 --> 01:38:30,840
Pace and tone issues from this critic.

1907
01:38:31,200 --> 01:38:34,840
I'll do one more from Jack Matthews, Los Angeles Times.

1908
01:38:35,360 --> 01:38:38,400
Even at today's inflated ticket prices, a two for one

1909
01:38:38,720 --> 01:38:40,920
which offer like this should be a bargain.

1910
01:38:41,040 --> 01:38:42,760
So why isn't it?

1911
01:38:42,760 --> 01:38:46,800
Why does practical magic with its big stars and major studio movie budget

1912
01:38:47,120 --> 01:38:49,800
feel like a sitcom with the air let out of it?

1913
01:38:51,120 --> 01:38:54,280
Oh, oh, oh, shots fired.

1914
01:38:54,800 --> 01:38:57,360
Somebody did not like this movie.

1915
01:38:57,360 --> 01:38:59,000
Yeah, yeah.

1916
01:38:59,000 --> 01:39:00,320
The total shifts.

1917
01:39:00,320 --> 01:39:05,320
Yeah, I can imagine being the biggest critical like problem

1918
01:39:05,560 --> 01:39:09,920
with it that people might have is the at this idea of, you know,

1919
01:39:09,920 --> 01:39:15,920
of sexual predator killing a guy, but then also Margarita Midnight.

1920
01:39:15,920 --> 01:39:18,520
And it's just it goes between those two things.

1921
01:39:20,800 --> 01:39:23,840
But yeah, I don't know.

1922
01:39:23,840 --> 01:39:29,120
For somebody that is not a woman, but seeing them deal with the issues

1923
01:39:29,120 --> 01:39:35,880
of a of a predatory man seemed like something that was worth having in the movie.

1924
01:39:35,880 --> 01:39:36,720
I don't know.

1925
01:39:36,720 --> 01:39:40,360
Cardin, Jass, did you think that was like too far with how

1926
01:39:40,360 --> 01:39:45,440
with subject content to deal with as far as like having a predatory guy

1927
01:39:45,800 --> 01:39:48,160
and having him act the way that he does in this movie?

1928
01:39:48,160 --> 01:39:52,880
Did it go too far and total shifts to go back around to be funny?

1929
01:39:52,920 --> 01:39:55,800
Because I thought that was like a scary.

1930
01:39:56,520 --> 01:40:00,480
I don't know. It seemed like an accurate, scary element of being a woman

1931
01:40:00,480 --> 01:40:05,960
and having a guy just turn on you like that and and and

1932
01:40:05,960 --> 01:40:09,200
become abusive. I don't know.

1933
01:40:09,200 --> 01:40:10,960
I think they do a really good job.

1934
01:40:10,960 --> 01:40:13,520
I think the movie does a good job at.

1935
01:40:13,880 --> 01:40:17,200
I understand you on these total shifts and not making the scene out

1936
01:40:17,200 --> 01:40:21,240
as bad as it could have been, making it a PG PG 13, like

1937
01:40:22,240 --> 01:40:24,800
domestic abuse situation.

1938
01:40:24,800 --> 01:40:27,280
Yeah, absolutely.

1939
01:40:27,280 --> 01:40:29,560
I agree. I don't know. Do you think do you think so, Car? Or?

1940
01:40:31,160 --> 01:40:35,240
So, I mean, I like that they kind of just kept it pretty

1941
01:40:35,240 --> 01:40:38,320
like that they didn't go too deep into it.

1942
01:40:38,720 --> 01:40:41,680
It could like if they did, it could have been like almost like

1943
01:40:42,120 --> 01:40:44,480
a lifetime movie or something, you know.

1944
01:40:45,320 --> 01:40:48,840
But I like I mean,

1945
01:40:49,520 --> 01:40:54,400
the main focus was about these women and their power and they were

1946
01:40:55,480 --> 01:41:00,560
they they got their power back, you know, and that was the biggest theme.

1947
01:41:00,560 --> 01:41:06,000
So it was fine that they didn't go to until like the darker

1948
01:41:06,240 --> 01:41:09,880
elements of being an abusive relationship or anything like that.

1949
01:41:10,160 --> 01:41:12,400
That it wasn't the overriding moral of.

1950
01:41:12,400 --> 01:41:13,400
Yeah. Sorry.

1951
01:41:13,400 --> 01:41:17,160
And it would have been more lifetime if it had a more broader moral

1952
01:41:18,560 --> 01:41:19,600
thing to do with him.

1953
01:41:19,600 --> 01:41:21,960
And I like how he's more just written off at the end.

1954
01:41:21,960 --> 01:41:23,960
And it is about the strength of.

1955
01:41:23,960 --> 01:41:26,360
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The women together.

1956
01:41:27,640 --> 01:41:28,640
But OK.

1957
01:41:28,640 --> 01:41:33,800
OK, well, yeah, it's check out some letterboxed reviews from the audience.

1958
01:41:33,800 --> 01:41:36,200
Strictly five stars.

1959
01:41:36,200 --> 01:41:38,440
We'll start with.

1960
01:41:38,440 --> 01:41:40,080
Here we go.

1961
01:41:41,800 --> 01:41:43,520
Start with Robin five stars.

1962
01:41:43,520 --> 01:41:46,800
Midnight margarita scene is everything I want my life to be.

1963
01:41:47,840 --> 01:41:50,720
And Indy five stars, what's better than this?

1964
01:41:50,720 --> 01:41:53,160
Gals being witches.

1965
01:41:53,160 --> 01:41:56,720
Test five stars, any man who falls in love with them,

1966
01:41:56,720 --> 01:42:00,560
dies an untimely death, if only there was another option.

1967
01:42:06,680 --> 01:42:08,800
Just become lesbian witches.

1968
01:42:10,480 --> 01:42:14,520
From Phoebe five stars, this has a 22 percent on Rotten Tomatoes,

1969
01:42:14,520 --> 01:42:17,480
and you expect me to believe in film criticism.

1970
01:42:22,040 --> 01:42:24,520
Maddie Flowers, she he

1971
01:42:24,520 --> 01:42:27,440
five stars.

1972
01:42:27,440 --> 01:42:30,640
Sorry, letterboxed film bros, but this is a five star movie.

1973
01:42:30,960 --> 01:42:33,480
It's five star in the way that the sisters love each other so much.

1974
01:42:33,480 --> 01:42:35,760
And it's five star in the way that they dance around the kitchen,

1975
01:42:36,120 --> 01:42:39,080
the way that the herbs are growing, growing, growing in that beautiful room.

1976
01:42:39,120 --> 01:42:41,360
I bet the basil smells so yummy on your fingers.

1977
01:42:41,600 --> 01:42:45,000
And I bet the sweet red wine chilling in the kitchen fridge is even more delicious.

1978
01:42:45,440 --> 01:42:49,000
It's five stars in the way that true love is real and true pain is real, too.

1979
01:42:49,320 --> 01:42:51,640
And a beetle might chirp and a warning in the movie.

1980
01:42:51,640 --> 01:42:54,000
But can you decide if you're happy or sad

1981
01:42:54,000 --> 01:42:56,080
that it doesn't alert you in real life as well?

1982
01:42:56,400 --> 01:42:59,640
CV Nicks is our white witch, our Hail Mary full of grace,

1983
01:42:59,840 --> 01:43:02,720
a movie that gets that and gets what it means to make your own

1984
01:43:02,720 --> 01:43:06,600
witches brew of dinner on the stove and gets what it means to consider your luck

1985
01:43:06,600 --> 01:43:08,880
and the moon and the roses growing too fast.

1986
01:43:09,200 --> 01:43:10,960
That's a five star movie to me.

1987
01:43:11,200 --> 01:43:15,240
The magic of blood bond, the magic of your intentions and what it means to fight,

1988
01:43:15,240 --> 01:43:19,760
the magic of a good song and a cozy hearth and the magic of cool dirt under your bare feet.

1989
01:43:19,760 --> 01:43:24,800
Marry me and marry part to everyone who gets the magic of this movie and marry me again.

1990
01:43:25,720 --> 01:43:27,840
Well, you can't get double married.

1991
01:43:31,760 --> 01:43:34,000
You can't get double married. OK.

1992
01:43:35,200 --> 01:43:38,200
Very poetic. Emma gave it five stars.

1993
01:43:38,680 --> 01:43:39,880
Girls don't want boys.

1994
01:43:39,880 --> 01:43:43,400
Girls want the practical magic house and Sandra Bullock and Nicole Kidman

1995
01:43:43,400 --> 01:43:47,880
and two witchy aunts to be raised by and Stevie Nicks to be the soundtrack to their lives.

1996
01:43:47,880 --> 01:43:48,880
Oh, yeah.

1997
01:43:48,880 --> 01:43:49,880
The box.

1998
01:43:49,880 --> 01:43:50,880
Bam.

1999
01:43:50,880 --> 01:43:51,880
Straight. Straight.

2000
01:43:51,880 --> 01:43:52,880
Straight.

2001
01:43:52,880 --> 01:43:53,880
Straight.

2002
01:43:53,880 --> 01:43:54,880
Straight.

2003
01:43:54,880 --> 01:43:56,720
It's basically what we're talking about.

2004
01:43:56,720 --> 01:43:58,040
That's what I'm talking about.

2005
01:44:00,720 --> 01:44:02,720
Uh, lean five stars.

2006
01:44:02,920 --> 01:44:05,240
God, I just want to crawl into this movie and live in it.

2007
01:44:08,920 --> 01:44:12,520
A reviewed by a five stars.

2008
01:44:12,720 --> 01:44:16,440
OK, Sandra Bullock lighting that candle on fire by gently breathing on it.

2009
01:44:16,440 --> 01:44:19,440
Really is the most beautiful scene in cinematic history.

2010
01:44:19,440 --> 01:44:20,440
And that's that.

2011
01:44:22,040 --> 01:44:23,040
Oh, OK.

2012
01:44:24,040 --> 01:44:28,040
OK, well, like this is nothing we can say about that because it's a fact.

2013
01:44:29,040 --> 01:44:31,040
That's done.

2014
01:44:31,440 --> 01:44:31,960
Kevin T.

2015
01:44:31,960 --> 01:44:36,600
Porter, five stars, Stalker Channing and Diane, we get screaming drunk, dancing

2016
01:44:36,600 --> 01:44:39,200
around the kitchen and Margot Martindale's growls.

2017
01:44:39,440 --> 01:44:42,840
Come on, ladies, let's clean house after evaporating a guy.

2018
01:44:42,840 --> 01:44:44,600
So this is the greatest movie ever made.

2019
01:44:44,600 --> 01:44:45,600
Five stars.

2020
01:44:45,600 --> 01:44:47,600
Kevin T. Porter is fantastic.

2021
01:44:47,600 --> 01:44:48,600
He's such a good follow.

2022
01:44:48,600 --> 01:44:50,600
That name does sound very familiar.

2023
01:44:50,600 --> 01:44:52,600
Yeah, Kevin T. Porter is cool.

2024
01:44:53,600 --> 01:44:56,600
And we'll do one or two more.

2025
01:44:58,600 --> 01:45:00,600
Jade talks too much.

2026
01:45:00,600 --> 01:45:01,600
Five stars.

2027
01:45:02,600 --> 01:45:04,600
She quotes Aunt Frances Owens.

2028
01:45:04,600 --> 01:45:07,600
My darling girl, when are you going to realize that being normal is not

2029
01:45:07,600 --> 01:45:08,600
necessarily a virtue?

2030
01:45:08,600 --> 01:45:11,600
It rather denotes a lack of courage.

2031
01:45:11,600 --> 01:45:12,600
Fun fact.

2032
01:45:12,600 --> 01:45:18,600
Cinema peaked in 1998 when Sally, Jillian, Aunt Frances and Aunt Jett danced

2033
01:45:18,600 --> 01:45:21,600
around their kitchen to Harry Nilsons coconut while drinking midnight

2034
01:45:21,600 --> 01:45:22,600
margaritas.

2035
01:45:22,600 --> 01:45:23,600
Don't believe me?

2036
01:45:23,600 --> 01:45:25,600
Watch this clip and my point will be proven.

2037
01:45:25,600 --> 01:45:27,600
It's the midnight margaritas clip.

2038
01:45:27,600 --> 01:45:29,600
Another one from my all time fave.

2039
01:45:29,600 --> 01:45:31,600
So much fun and a perfect cozy fall watch.

2040
01:45:31,600 --> 01:45:34,600
The Owens sisters remind me of me and my sister.

2041
01:45:36,600 --> 01:45:39,600
And finally, from Siobhan, five stars.

2042
01:45:39,600 --> 01:45:40,600
Sorry, I'm sorry.

2043
01:45:40,600 --> 01:45:43,600
No one warned me this was the best movie ever.

2044
01:45:43,600 --> 01:45:47,600
Sandra Bullock and Nicole Kidman being girlboss witch sisters who find love

2045
01:45:47,600 --> 01:45:49,600
and bring down toxic abusive men.

2046
01:45:49,600 --> 01:45:50,600
Exactly.

2047
01:45:50,600 --> 01:45:53,600
Petition for the Owens family to adopt me, please.

2048
01:45:55,600 --> 01:45:57,600
I love that review.

2049
01:45:57,600 --> 01:45:59,600
That review is Brad.

2050
01:45:59,600 --> 01:46:01,600
Yeah, it's fixed on Brad.

2051
01:46:01,600 --> 01:46:06,600
The energy from letterbox reviews are just so straight from the gut, straight

2052
01:46:06,600 --> 01:46:07,600
from the heart.

2053
01:46:07,600 --> 01:46:08,600
I don't know what to say.

2054
01:46:08,600 --> 01:46:11,600
But it's just the they cut the bullshit.

2055
01:46:11,600 --> 01:46:16,600
They're not trying to come up with anything other than just the true feelings

2056
01:46:16,600 --> 01:46:20,600
of it feels like you're you're reading reviews from people that really just

2057
01:46:20,600 --> 01:46:23,600
watched the movie and running telephone to just like put it in right as they

2058
01:46:23,600 --> 01:46:28,600
are feeling it rather than a critic that we love our critics here too, but are

2059
01:46:28,600 --> 01:46:32,600
like, wow, they spent all night coming up with that ESP joke.

2060
01:46:33,600 --> 01:46:37,600
And they're like, you know, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like,

2061
01:46:37,600 --> 01:46:44,600
I'm like, copy, paste, save print, which like didn't even really nail it.

2062
01:46:44,600 --> 01:46:46,600
I had to think about that.

2063
01:46:48,600 --> 01:46:50,600
Yeah, totally.

2064
01:46:50,600 --> 01:46:52,600
It's also the critics.

2065
01:46:53,600 --> 01:47:00,600
It's of the time too, because they're trying to like make a case that like the

2066
01:47:00,600 --> 01:47:04,600
tonal shifts or the way that it handles certain material isn't going to age

2067
01:47:04,600 --> 01:47:11,080
but it's, I don't know, it's almost like time has proven that it's not really how we all see it.

2068
01:47:11,080 --> 01:47:17,640
And it's not, and its influence is actually pretty profound in a lot of great ways.

2069
01:47:17,640 --> 01:47:20,360
And all of the more technical stuff that you would critique.

2070
01:47:21,400 --> 01:47:25,880
Most people don't view that as a problem or just, yeah, I don't know.

2071
01:47:25,880 --> 01:47:31,720
That doesn't contribute to it being a bad movie because of some things that they think would be.

2072
01:47:31,720 --> 01:47:41,080
Yeah. It is interesting to watch the kind of movies like this that the audience really takes

2073
01:47:41,080 --> 01:47:46,520
as their own and embraces so much so that, yeah, if you were to do a fresh

2074
01:47:47,560 --> 01:47:51,320
watch from critics of this movie, I don't know, it just, it might come out differently as

2075
01:47:51,320 --> 01:47:55,960
like created today, just to understand its cultural relevance and how much it holds up as

2076
01:47:56,520 --> 01:48:00,840
a rewatchable thing and having a fresh set of eyes. I think again, that's what letterbox is

2077
01:48:00,840 --> 01:48:04,600
nice for too, cause you get to read people, Oh, I just watched this for the first time.

2078
01:48:04,600 --> 01:48:10,360
And this is how I feel about it. And I feel like that's so cool to see something hold up so well

2079
01:48:11,480 --> 01:48:17,240
in a modern way like that. But I'm sure I could find bad reviews from the audience as well, but

2080
01:48:18,200 --> 01:48:22,040
this is how it's represented on Rotten Tomatoes. And it's interesting to go through this whole

2081
01:48:22,040 --> 01:48:29,000
back and forth about it to see a movie that's represented by 25% is just as rough. So I'm

2082
01:48:29,000 --> 01:48:38,520
curious now, Karen, Jas and Brandini, best host ever to give your final thoughts and a score

2083
01:48:39,160 --> 01:48:44,120
zero to 100. Jas, would you care to go first since first time, or do you want to,

2084
01:48:44,120 --> 01:48:44,920
do you want to pass it on?

2085
01:48:44,920 --> 01:48:45,400
Yeah, don't.

2086
01:48:46,600 --> 01:48:55,000
Don't. I would give this movie solid 83% out of a hundred. I think that topically it is a story

2087
01:48:55,000 --> 01:49:02,200
about a dead ex boyfriend, but really it's commentary on a supportive sisterhood and

2088
01:49:02,760 --> 01:49:09,720
overall excellent fall autumn vibes. Who doesn't want to live in that house, drink midnight margaritas.

2089
01:49:11,400 --> 01:49:15,160
If you don't, then we don't want to be friends. We don't want to know those people.

2090
01:49:15,160 --> 01:49:19,960
It's like this movie in my mind creates such a strong vibe where it's like, if you don't like

2091
01:49:19,960 --> 01:49:25,720
this vibe, then I don't know. It's tough to like, it's tough at times. And that's why I think it's

2092
01:49:25,720 --> 01:49:31,240
polarizing. Like, like, I don't think I've ever met anyone who dislikes this movie. It's either

2093
01:49:31,240 --> 01:49:37,880
I've never seen it or yeah, I love it. Except for all of the critics. That's it. Solid 83%.

2094
01:49:38,760 --> 01:49:40,200
Nice. Well put.

2095
01:49:40,200 --> 01:49:41,080
Kara, what do you think?

2096
01:49:44,120 --> 01:49:48,440
For me, so this movie isn't nostalgic for me or anything. I can imagine like

2097
01:49:48,440 --> 01:49:54,600
loving it even more if it was nostalgic. But I do love the cozy vibes. I love

2098
01:49:55,320 --> 01:50:04,920
the sisterhood element and the support group element. And yeah, it was, it's definitely

2099
01:50:04,920 --> 01:50:11,000
like Jasper saying, like a good one to like get fall going. Like if you, if you want to get into

2100
01:50:11,000 --> 01:50:21,240
the fall spirit, putting this movie on helps that. And yeah, I, I'm going to give it a 75

2101
01:50:22,200 --> 01:50:29,320
just because I think I'm not as attached to it as like maybe as like kind of a first timer.

2102
01:50:30,280 --> 01:50:39,320
But I definitely would watch it again. And there are moments in the movie that I like

2103
01:50:39,320 --> 01:50:45,880
loved, but I can understand like there are moments where I didn't care that much about what was going

2104
01:50:45,880 --> 01:50:50,760
on. Like, I don't know. I didn't really care about like the romance between Sandra Bullock

2105
01:50:50,760 --> 01:50:57,640
and Aiden Quinn. Like I know it has to happen, but like, I didn't feel the sparks there.

2106
01:50:58,600 --> 01:51:03,960
So there were some moments where I was like, okay, can we like move this along? Like I'd like to like

2107
01:51:03,960 --> 01:51:10,840
see the midnight coconut scene or like the, the, the common thing at the end. Yeah. So,

2108
01:51:11,960 --> 01:51:22,760
um, yeah, it's a 75. Excellent. Go for it. No, you go for it. Um, man, yeah, this was such an

2109
01:51:22,760 --> 01:51:26,760
enjoyable watch. And the reason that it was an enjoyable watch is because the people that

2110
01:51:27,400 --> 01:51:33,240
like the story of it all and the characters of it all were really, I just, man, it goes such a long

2111
01:51:33,240 --> 01:51:38,440
way with me to watch something where it isn't so much about the drama and it's more about like

2112
01:51:38,440 --> 01:51:44,520
loving the supportive like nature of the characters helping each other out through a plot problem

2113
01:51:44,520 --> 01:51:51,400
rather than like the plot is mainly about the conflict. Sure. There is a conflict, but man,

2114
01:51:51,400 --> 01:51:58,680
this movie is really not about that. It's more so about how all of these personalities

2115
01:51:58,680 --> 01:52:04,280
provide something for each other. And then they like work off of that. And there's just these

2116
01:52:04,280 --> 01:52:11,720
dynamics that all have their own little like, uh, addition to somebody working through something or

2117
01:52:11,720 --> 01:52:18,360
just, uh, showing more clearly like how this personality has its own benefits and how it

2118
01:52:18,360 --> 01:52:23,640
should be respected and should be loved and cared for. And this movie also too, just from what

2119
01:52:23,640 --> 01:52:30,280
actually happens has some funny dialogue, has some pretty funny sequences. Obviously the coconut

2120
01:52:30,280 --> 01:52:37,560
midnight margaritas is a blast. It's hard not to be like, well, that is just so fun and enjoyable.

2121
01:52:37,560 --> 01:52:44,680
And it just radiates and you're like, Oh my God, I'm having fun too. And so yeah, I'm going to give

2122
01:52:44,680 --> 01:52:54,680
this movie an 85% is where I really had a wonderful time watching this. And I think a lot of people

2123
01:52:54,680 --> 01:53:00,280
should watch it if they haven't seen it already. I absolutely would highly recommend this movie for

2124
01:53:00,280 --> 01:53:06,280
a, for a fall watch a Halloween watch that you're not feeling like you want to get super spooky with.

2125
01:53:06,280 --> 01:53:13,240
Um, I was, I was happy to have the chemistry of Sandra Bullock and Nicole Kidman together that

2126
01:53:13,240 --> 01:53:21,080
drove, uh, so much of the movie for me was, was the vibes and the, and the vibes between them and

2127
01:53:21,080 --> 01:53:27,720
the aunts and everything too, the warmness, the warmth in the house, um, and how they set that up.

2128
01:53:27,720 --> 01:53:39,640
And I thought that it was able to straddle the line between the drama just enough to propel a,

2129
01:53:39,640 --> 01:53:47,560
a plot, uh, and to get you back into the house with, with them and to have, uh, good times there.

2130
01:53:47,560 --> 01:53:54,040
And I think that that's really where this movie shines for me. And I'm grateful that I was able

2131
01:53:54,040 --> 01:54:01,800
to experience it in a packed, uh, movie theater. I think that the, that's just kind of infectious

2132
01:54:01,800 --> 01:54:09,960
when you can see, um, how it can interact with a, with a full house and having them laugh, uh, and,

2133
01:54:10,680 --> 01:54:18,040
uh, react to all of those big moments just makes those moments even stronger in my mind.

2134
01:54:18,040 --> 01:54:24,040
Cause I have those, the audience reaction to it and seeing how it lit up that crowd was undeniable.

2135
01:54:24,040 --> 01:54:31,720
Um, and I think that definitely goes a long way, but I can totally see myself rewatching this.

2136
01:54:31,720 --> 01:54:35,880
Cause I think one of the reviews said of like, I just want to live in this. And I totally get why

2137
01:54:35,880 --> 01:54:41,480
it's one of those movies. It just, uh, even if you're not fully paying attention, I could imagine

2138
01:54:41,480 --> 01:54:49,640
just having it there during fall season would be like a form of a, of a roasting fireplace for,

2139
01:54:49,640 --> 01:54:56,600
in a way, cause it just, it brings such, so much warmth out of the screen. Um, and yeah,

2140
01:54:56,600 --> 01:55:01,160
so it's not going to be, I guess, if I had any criticisms, yeah, I get like the combining

2141
01:55:01,160 --> 01:55:06,920
Aiden Quinn and with the, uh, detective and the love interest was, you know, it gets a little,

2142
01:55:06,920 --> 01:55:13,720
that's a good point, Kara. It does get a little hollow cause he has to do so much. Um, and it is

2143
01:55:13,720 --> 01:55:20,760
just casual, I guess for better or worse, you know, it's a, it's a casual movie, but that has,

2144
01:55:20,760 --> 01:55:28,520
that's a, as more good than bad, I think. So, uh, I love, I love the energy and again, the, the,

2145
01:55:29,640 --> 01:55:35,960
the final big moment of all the women coming together and having a seance and an exorcism

2146
01:55:35,960 --> 01:55:41,800
and then sweeping the bad dude out of the house was like, makes me want to get up and cheer, uh,

2147
01:55:41,800 --> 01:55:49,160
when that happens. And I absolutely love, love that payoff of the, of the tree and, and calling

2148
01:55:49,160 --> 01:55:55,000
all the ladies was, uh, that moment hit, I think the hardest in the movie theater was when she

2149
01:55:55,000 --> 01:56:01,480
went to the tree to call the ladies, the crowd is just fucking off. They loved it as did I.

2150
01:56:02,120 --> 01:56:08,280
And so I will, yeah, I'm definitely going to be, uh, with all, all you fine folks here. And I've

2151
01:56:08,280 --> 01:56:16,120
always been feeling a high 70. So I'll do a 78 noon to 78. And I, uh, you know, maybe it'll grow

2152
01:56:16,120 --> 01:56:20,920
even more as I watch it again. And, um, after seeing the movie theater is like Brandon was

2153
01:56:20,920 --> 01:56:23,720
watching the last time I was like, Hey man, I'll throw it on with you. And I watched it again. So

2154
01:56:23,720 --> 01:56:31,240
I have seen it twice already and it was no problem watching it again. Uh, so yeah, highly recommend

2155
01:56:31,240 --> 01:56:38,440
to, uh, to anyone out there that even thinks that they might enjoy it. I, I'd take a, take a look.

2156
01:56:38,440 --> 01:56:42,200
And my last thing is, yeah, it's, it's a 1998 movie. That was my one point earlier. It's like,

2157
01:56:42,200 --> 01:56:46,600
I don't have nostalgia, but I just, that time of movies and seeing the, you know,

2158
01:56:47,240 --> 01:56:52,520
people at this time and how it's shot and film and those, how the oranges and the ambers look

2159
01:56:52,520 --> 01:56:56,680
and that blue light come through the window in the back, like all that stuff just puts me in a,

2160
01:56:56,680 --> 01:57:01,480
in a happy place. So, uh, speaking of happy place, I've been in a happy place for the past couple

2161
01:57:01,480 --> 01:57:08,920
hours with you guys. It's been such a blast. Um, it was a true pledge. I can't thank you enough

2162
01:57:08,920 --> 01:57:15,240
jazz for coming on for your first time and providing a lot of knowledge, uh, about this movie.

2163
01:57:15,240 --> 01:57:22,360
And, uh, I hope you've enjoyed yourself and you'll come back and visit us again. Any, any other

2164
01:57:22,360 --> 01:57:29,400
movie that you, that you would like to want, um, as to you, Kara, thank you again. My lovely wife.

2165
01:57:32,040 --> 01:57:38,120
We appreciate your guys time so much. And, um, I guess this is the time where I'll and Brandon,

2166
01:57:38,120 --> 01:57:44,600
best host ever. How can I forget? It was good for the forever guest. That's how you know. Uh,

2167
01:57:44,600 --> 01:57:51,480
and this is now where I'll announce our next movie. We're jumping out of cozy, warm vibes into cool

2168
01:57:51,480 --> 01:58:01,560
blue green, uh, land of, uh, horses and wells and girls that climb out of said wells. The rain

2169
01:58:03,640 --> 01:58:14,200
released October 18th, 2002. Spooky, spooky, very spooky. Uh, it has a 71% by the critics,

2170
01:58:14,200 --> 01:58:22,280
a 48% by the audience, a critically favored movie that came out not long after practical magic.

2171
01:58:22,280 --> 01:58:28,680
And those critics were like, yeah, we're feeling edgy, edgy ring over the warm, happy practical

2172
01:58:28,680 --> 01:58:36,040
magic. Um, I'll read the little, uh, premise here before we scoot off. It sounds like just another

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urban legend, a videotape filled with nightmarish images leads to a phone call foretelling the

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viewer's death in exactly seven days. Newspaper reporter Rachel Keller, Naomi Watts is skeptical

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of the story until four teenagers all die mysteriously exactly one week after watching

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just such a tape, allowing her investigative curiosity, curiosity to get the better of her.

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Rachel tracks down the video and watches it. Now she has just seven days to unravel the mystery.

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Join us next time folks for the ring. It's been real. If you want to watch us live or on twitch.tv

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slash polarized pods, send us a line at polarized the pod at gmail.com. Review, subscribe on Apple

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podcasts or anywhere else you are listening to this. Thank you again, Jazz. Thank you again,

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Cara. Thank you again, Brandini and thank you again, James. Twol you on this fine, spooky night.

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I wish you a happy spooky season. Good night.