Hello everyone, welcome to the Polarize Podcast. Another scintillating episode is coming at
you. We're talking House of a Thousand Corpses, a Rob Zombie directorial debut. I am your host
James. Welcome, welcome, welcome. Come on in. The scores for this movie is a 22% by the critics,
a 65% by the audience. You know what that means, folks? It's polarizing. It's a polarizing movie
according to Rotten Tomatoes. We talk about movies that are disagreed upon according to the
audiences and critics on Rotten Tomatoes. Sometimes the critics love it. Sometimes the
audiences hate it. This is the vice versa of that. The critics fucking hate it. And audiences
have an affectation for this movie that is borderline cult classic. I don't know. I think
there is a love for this movie. It is my first time I was counting those corpses. I was trying to
get to a thousand, but I don't I don't think I got there. I hope you guys are ready for a twisted
app coming from a couple twisted guys. I'm going to bring him in right now. He is the great brandini.
Let's go. The grandmaster of spooky, spooky season. My guys, my guys and gals out there. That's
right. We are in spooky, spooky season. This is the third year doing this to debut of our spooky
season. Is it our third? I remember our first spooky season. Us talking. We were like, which was
that part of our first thing. So yeah, and that was my first 100, I think. And I think I know
now we're this is going to be a second. Who knows? But I remember it. Yeah, even the first year,
us getting into spooky movies in general, I think we were both relatively novices. I had my
my favorites like alien or the thing like my sci-fi horror that I liked a lot. But then getting
into something like, yeah, like the witch was was obviously we loved it. And that was a that was a
different sort of thing. But I say we've come a long way as a scary movie enthusiasts. I agree,
man. Absolutely. Yeah, I'm glad that you brought it up because it was something I was thinking
about, too. And I feel like I said this to somebody talking about what spooky movies people like.
And yeah, I just the way that I front in my mind is I wasn't a horror guy really at all.
I always kind of stayed away from them because by and large, I felt like first off, I wasn't
really into being scared. And second off, a lot of movies that I think about when I think of horror
like this movie, right, they're like really gory and gruesome and fucked up. And I don't,
I mean, spoiler alerted, this is in my favorite type of movie, you know, not really much for the
like, super gory stuff. And just in general, and some movies like this, I've stayed away from, but
I've watched more of them. Again, yeah, it's not like I fully converted to like now I'm a, you
know, classic horror gore fan, you know, not signing up for Fangoria. But shut it, I am really
enjoying a lot like a larger breadth of different types of horror movies and really
recognizing how like cool they are now being scared a little bit is a unique experience that
yeah, I don't mind as much now. I don't mind getting scared.
Yeah, I think we both like explored our tastes within the genre. And I feel like we've had open
minds towards it. Also revisiting movies, I feel like as teenagers, where we were, I feel like we
were first starting to be able to see some of those some scary movies, the movies that were
coming out during our teenage years were movies like this. And we talked about it. I think that
first year we did saw as well, we did a couple saws. And right, we did saw the first one in the
most recent one at the time spiral from the book of saw a fucking subtitle that just went away. I
don't know if they're ever going to pull that book open again. But like, talking about being shell open,
open and shut. Oh yeah, she'll have that book. But I think that was a lot of what was around at
the time was hostile and saw porn shit like this. What's up with that? That was so edgy. I don't
know. It's funny because I just watched screen for three and four recently. And each one of those
they kind of, of course, have that, I don't know, that moment at some point in the movie, maybe
multiple times, but especially at the beginning where they're talking about the state of scary
movies in a way. And there's a moment in those movies where they kind of call it out a bit of
like, you know, oh, I don't like that torture porn stuff. I like the good like classic kind of
scary movies, one of the characters says and that was interesting to see in a very meta sort of way.
And of course, a screen movie being discussed about within within a scary movie. So it kind of
put my mind at ease of like, oh, it's not just me. That's just like that was in all the fucking
what's his face be or like cabin fever. What's what's that guy's name like green inferno? You
hate you hate all those movies, I think, but he's like Tarantino's buddy. Oh, Eli Roth. Eli Roth.
Yeah, like that kind of hostile. Yeah. I mean, I hear that Borderlands is the scariest one of all.
It's you know, I know, scarily bad. Did you hear about Craig Mazan, the guy who like created
Chernobyl and like the Delasov show and everything like wrote that movie and they bastardized it so
much the script and everything that he requested that he like use a suit for writing credit.
Yeah, something to the effect of like, they wouldn't take his name off the movie. But then so he's
like, well, you have to just change it to this. And then yeah, I feel like I looked up an IMDB
credit and yeah, it's just like this made up like, you know, in the profile picture and he's just got
this, you know, made a person as one movie credit and it's borderlands.
Yeah, I wonder what that name is. That's funny because yeah, Eli Roth is a good example of
shit that I yeah, the hostile stuff. I'm just not really into Joe Cromby Joe Cromby. That does
Joe Cromby. But yeah, like it is a subsection of horror though, because I remember growing up
that there was always like people like it's like smart, right? Almost exactly. Yes. Yeah, like
it's very like demonic, very violent and exploited. It is. Yeah, the very like triple X and C17
shit. Like, yeah, I can't remember some of those like Seminole like movies like that.
The cannibal Holocaust, I think it's called right now. It's like the big one that Eli Roth
fucking loves that movie. You want to do like Green Inferno essentially to in these guys like
want to do an ode to those exploit exploitation kind of scary movies and snuff. Yeah, snuff kind
of movies. Yeah, snuff. Yeah, snuff smart. Snuff. Yeah, both yes and yes. And but yeah, those
especially this one where and this is where my blind spots going to come into view. I have not
seen I've seen bits and pieces of Texas Chainsaw Massacre, which feels weird to talk about this
movie, not knowing that movie completely. But but still it's like I think you know,
even though you haven't seen it, it's like it, right? There's so much of, you know, that
yeah, I'm the same way. Sorry to cut you off. But yeah, exact same way of I haven't fully seen the
original Texas Chainsaw Massacre. I remember watching once, I think like the like the 2005
versus six or like somewhere around there, maybe there was an updated version of Texas
Chainsaw Massacre. But nonetheless, like yeah, being really frightened by the idea of it,
because everybody talks about how fucked up that movie is. And when somebody, yeah, I just
have never been a moviegoer and a very huge fan and lover of movies. But whenever people describe
the movie in a good light as being like it's really fucked up and twisted, I'm like,
okay, all right. I mean, that's not really a selling point for me. But I don't it's it's so
bizarre that type of I mean, I you know, King shame or like, yeah, somebody's young because
like, as long as you're not genuinely hurting people, I guess if you're into gold, but it's
just so weird in my mind to make that mental connection of like, what's that about? I mean,
I've listened to some podcast talking like for horror fans. And I get to an extent that people
who do like the really gory movies are really into special effects by and large. Yeah. And that's
like the attraction to it is the idea of these practical things that are really kind of like
and some of it's in this movie too. We can talk about it like the monsters, right?
I'm being really, yeah, weird and visually, like artistically, I guess, like, creative,
even though it's yeah, it's like, still fucked up. But yeah, I guess I get that.
That's I mean, I know, I know at least because there's another thing of Texas Chainsaw Massacre
that we do love Resident Evil seven biohazard where like, we know that there's references
of like a fucked up family and you're trapped with them and everything. The difference I would say
with with something like that, or a good version of something like that is the building of tension,
I think is so important in a scary movie for me of like, you know, earning that earning the gore and
earning the part where everything fucking kind of pops off and shit gets crazy. And if it's just
like in your face the whole time and it's overcompensating trying to convince you that it is
scary and that it is fucked up. That's where I just it just becomes I become numb in a way because
there's no tension. There's no sort of build up towards the fuck the the murder or the gore and
everything. And it's just it's just a part of every scene. It feels like so much so that it you
just you just I kind of tune off to it. But something yeah, and it's a video game Resident
Evil 7, but that is done in such a way where it's that yeah, and it puts you in the driver's seat.
Totally. And the idea of this, like, and I would love to try to point this out as I go through
critiquing this because there are parts of this movie where I could see a better movie in it.
But to your point is and it's almost reminded me how I felt about like movies. I really don't like
like cruel intentions, for example, is like everybody sucks. So it's like them die, like them
getting fucked over or killed or whatever, you're like, don't really give a shit. And then so really
to your point is like, they're overcompensating by like, you know, I can imagine Rob Zombie, for
example, looking at this and going like, I'm giving you so much like for an action, essentially,
for your ticket price. But again, yeah, I agree with you is like, we start this movie off to start
getting into it with a cold open where it's shitty people meeting their demise. And that's
pretty much the like the line of the sort of which I would argue how it's structured is the fucking
monsters are the main characters of this movie. And in a maybe like a yeah, like a slasher sort of
movie and like shitty teenagers or whatever that are, you know, like, oh, you get to watch them get
picked off one by one or whatever. I get that sort of thing. But like, yeah, this starts with them
doing, you know, like murdering somebody. And then Robert's so right, you know, yeah,
there's interesting more moral stuff going on right off the rib. It's like, you're not like,
okay, I'm just trying to think of what would be a good cold open is it's showing you like a cold
open can show you mainly the invite like introducing to the environment or the like the world that
you're entering. And it can be a side story that has a like a piece of what the main story is going
to be. So you're starting to create a connection between the main story. But really the purpose I
in my mind of a cold openness to like, put you in the setting to go like, you know, credits
house of 1000 forbs to show them you're like, okay, all right, I'm in the space. And it does that.
But it doesn't in a way where. Yeah, I don't know. Like again, it's just oh, okay, so robbers got
killed by fucked up weirdos. Okay, all right. I mean, yeah, I guess that I mean, if I were to
restructure it, the fucking cheerleaders man, like show show how the cheerleaders get abducted
and how they get put in that position. I don't know because it goes back to them constantly
throughout the movie and how they're introduced is like news footage or whatever newspaper and then
in cops kind of slowly start to trickle in and everything. But yeah, I know if you want to establish
them as scary, like I get that point of like a cold open of like this is the gasoline fried chicken
place and of oddities and all that stuff like, okay. But the thing is like, there's there's barely a
moment for what should be the main characters, the kids like kids. They call them that the whole
time. That's why they're driving the girls dad. I don't know. It's like you guys are all yeah,
yeah, like 30 year olds. Like, they don't establish jack shit with like who like,
who's dating who and why are we on the road and where are we going on Halloween Eve and
or anything. It's pretty much just like, hey, we're out of gas. Let's go there and they're in
like it's just it's it's over already. And so I don't know whether you're supposed to hate or love
the kids like the kids, like it doesn't even give you that it's just kind of more about the fucked
up nature of these monstrous people. And you can see why and other his other movies that I haven't
seen, which I guess there are part of like the trilogy of these characters like devil's rejects
and three from hell or whatever. Yeah, like are the same character with those. I'm not that I'm
not familiar with it, but I've just all I've seen is the poster. So Sid Hague and Rob Zombie's wife
are back and then maybe there's like a new addition or something like that. Yeah, that's
that's the extent of it. I think it's the the same universe or whatever. But I mean, there was a
there was a period of time we've known each other since high school. Were you you kind of were
listening to like Rob Zombie a little bit, right? Oh, yeah. Yeah. And it's like
it's kind of like music for people who yeah, I don't know. Like it's and it's stereotypical to
say it because honestly, metalheads are some of the most loving and caring people I've ever met
life. But like they I don't know. There's there's a whole subculture that loves this kind of content
where it's like very metal and sinister and satanic and whatnot. And it's very, you know,
this gives the movie way too much credit. But to like try to sympathize with somebody who does like
this stuff is it's so like fuck the rules a little bit or so like fuck, you know, society and all
of that. I mean, God, it's such a, you know, representative in Sid Hague's character, where he
just like tells people to go fuck themselves from the second he meets them. And it's like,
what is it? It's like when he gets held up by gun.
He always ends up with his feet like flip them off and stuff. And it's just like, wow, this guy's
nice. Not so. He was kind of my favorite to watch actor or whatever, but continue on about
Rob Zombie. Yeah, I agree. I agree. Yeah, it's not really him. That's the problem.
But yeah, the I was into this music because I do like metal music and I did get pretty
over Rob Zombie Rob Zombie pretty quickly because
he for me is like, I really enjoyed metal music and he kind of is in that space of like
industrial hillbilly, hillbilly rock with a little bit of a bus drill with rock ability a little bit
rock ability stuff. Like it's kind of like a little bit of, I don't know. I want to say it's
like almost got like a country like a little like twist to it and stuff, which isn't necessarily bad
things, but it's just not my like when I want to listen to metal music. It's not necessarily the
metal music that I want to like that I enjoy the most. But yeah, I did. I dug the vibe because
I don't know. Like when you're especially when it came out, it's a time of like rebellion and
there is an attraction to this like, oh, this is evil music almost, which again is like, I'm
sympathizing with people who could like a movie like this or who this movie's for. But I think as
we go on, it's just now where I sit in, you know, in 2024 and the age that I'm at is like, it's really
hard to overlook how like in like last direction and it doesn't have really a bunch of original
thoughts and the dialogue is pretty stupid and like some of the visual stuff I'm into,
but it never commits to anything for too long. And so it ends up just being like
so incredibly uneven and and again at a fundamental level, like you're talking like
you've mentioned and I agree with you, it's like that is kind of my like standard for a good horror
movie is this idea of like being well put into this into the place of the person that is being
like chased after or who is in trouble. And then and if the movie does well to transport you into
that person by creating a like a real person, which Rainn Wilson is the only person who's like
kind of a real person who actually made like says real shit and then everybody else like it's wild
like how unlikeable Chris Hardwick is and then really also to the two girls that he's
that are telling nothing to do and the things that they do say are like.
Yeah, like kind of like shitty and over it and who cares and stuff like that. So yeah,
it's barely they barely say anything. They just like they're asleep like you bet you're
sorry. They are asleep when they show up and they're like, hey, get out. We're going in at
already zero agency just like I guess we're going into this fucking oddity place or whatever.
And they just wake up and they go in and they just I can't think of a single line of dialogue
that they have before the dance scene where one of them just and that's where I was like,
oh, they are together. I didn't even realize I didn't like because I was I was trying to figure
out like who's paired with who not that it matters too much. But if like things are going to get
dangerous and you're going to watch out for each other, of course, friends are going to watch out
for each other. But like, I was just wondering if there was like, yeah, we're going out to the
we're going out to the cabin and we're going to double date whatever it just that the base level
of who these people are is not established. And then you just yeah, I'm sorry made this point.
But like them specifically, and to have and to have her be the last girl and everything,
it's just there's and then have this thing with her father and all that stuff is just like
it happened as it as it happened, it didn't get established first and then get a payoff
or anything. It would just it would just happen. Absolutely. I mean, really, yeah,
we are starved for in this movie needed conversation in the car with everybody being like,
like, how close of a relationship are these people? You know, what it like? Why are they in
the car together? Or not? I guess we know why they're in the car because they're writing stories
about roadside attractions. But you need a little bit more of like, because because he's a
journalist. And then are they traveling to her parents place because they're coming from New
York, maybe, and they've been going across the US and like plans for Halloween. Yeah.
Absolutely. I mean, there's it doesn't work in my mind. It doesn't require much for them to have
had just in the movie, have a conversation being like, you know, our final stop is your dad's place
for Halloween. And you know, we're we've been on this journey and kind of have more of a lived in
like because it seems like they've been on the road for a while. And it yeah, we just needed so
much more about who they are, what what the relationship is like. And it's just so jarring
too, because of like Chris Hardwick makes this movie rough for me, because he's so
cartoonish. Yeah. You know, from the jump, this idea of they're out of gas.
And then they're rainwilson's like, how much gas did you put in the car? And he's like, I put in
a couple bucks. He should have been able to look at the fuel gauge when they drove off until immediately.
If that's a case, it's like a bitchy about it. I can't drive at night. I can't drive at night
because I'm like, what? So fucking annoying. And then it does doesn't help that he like consistently
is annoying about shit. Like giving the girls a hard time for not like kind of being awake or
excited about what's going on at this roadside attraction. One thing that really I thought
was just drove me nuts because like it happens in movies. But like if somebody did that real life,
I'm like, God, I don't want to be this person's friend ever is when they're in the monster
tunnel like exhibit or whatever at the rest stop. And there's part of the ride where I got
that he's talking about some killer that like chops people up. And it's just like a shot of
like this like mechanical robot chopping off off an arm. And then it cuts it cuts to Chris Hardwick
climbs a little bit over the backseat and just goes, you're like,
fuck you, you fucking suck ass. Like, oh, it just seems like somebody was like always
trying so funny. That's what this guy's doing. And I'm just like, oh, it makes me so mad. And
there's so much that he does that drove me nuts. Where it's like, it's that it's almost like dead
cool. Like it's the way that he was acting where it's like nothing like I don't care about anything.
It's all up in the air for jokes. And you know, I'm so cool. And so, you know, and I guess that
it that is a stereotype for like, no, dude, please, I'm getting you thinking about it as well.
Because it just I think that is a stereotype for bad scary movies specifically, you know,
like for to have that the friend that's wisecracking friend or whatever. That's yeah, not taking
things seriously. But also, I love how you put it where it's like, it's like somebody who's
constantly trying to make a bit out of something and it's never fucking funny. And it gets so
exhausting because they are constantly trying to be funny. But it's like, either at the expense of
other people, or it's just the most obvious joke you can make that no one wants to say because
it's so obvious and he's going to be the one to like do it in the most obnoxious way. Also,
kind of hard to wait. Yeah, obnoxious is the thing because like, if we were in that situation,
and you in the back saw that and you just said like a joke and it's like, you know, I don't know,
only a flesh wound or like, I don't know, something stupid. And it's pretty obvious. But
but it's like the thing that's so fucking annoying about a character like that is
he's trying to be funny by making you like uncomfortable and like annoying you and like
getting in your face about this like, look at me, look at me. And it's like, oh, and he's like
outwardly horny and shit, which is just like uncouth. Bare minimum. Right. Why? And like,
and yeah, so much of that stuff sucks ass for me because it's another person that we're never
going to really be on their side, which is weird because like, don't you want that as a movie,
especially because they put him through the ringer, you know, and they really put everybody
through the right. No, Hardwick especially. Hardwick especially. And it's weird to not want to
make a point in the beginning to make these people more likeable or more enjoyable. So then
they're demise and their punishment. And it's so much of like, oh, fuck, like I'm really afraid
for this person. But like, I mean, right off the bat, you're like, I couldn't give a fuck less.
What happens to somebody like Chris Hardwick or his girlfriend? I think one of them was like,
really just like the one that at the dinner that once they get to the family, she just like calls
her a bitch and like cancer shit and like gets in her face about it. And it's another another
god damn example of like, if you were in that situation and you were at somebody else's place,
and especially when it's as fucking freaky as it is, are you going to like be antagonistic to
that person? No, you're going to be like, uh huh. Yeah, that sounds great. Okay, get the fuck out of
here. No, they like show the scary dinner scene. And it's like, you should be uncomfortable. This
is probably a point where like, I don't know, maybe we should hit the road again. And said Chris
Hardwick's like, I'm playing with my mask and having fun. Oh, this is so weird. And yeah,
it makes so much sense that the other two movies are about the fucking monsters because that's
I've already said it, but like that's where that's where the focus is. It's not about them. It's about
the fucking evil people and and and what they're up to, which we know that right and better. I
think so. I think doubles rejects is the highest of Rob Zombie's. Oh, yeah, I think. Yeah, it's
it's poor rising to be able to fit in three movies this month. Maybe we do doubles rejects.
Oh my God. I mean, yeah, if you guys ever get the chance on maybe we can do it later on this
podcast, but he did a remake movie of the monsters and just which is in this movie. Just the
trailer it is in this movie. You can see where he loves it. But just the trailer alone is
wow, it is. It looks like so, so, so bad in such a way that like you just it's just confusion when
when I watch it, not like laugh at it so bad, not like it was so bad, but just like confuse us to
how the fuck does this exist? How the fuck did he get? I guess monsters maybe is like public domain
now because how the fuck did he get that? I mean, it could be because it's very, very old, right?
It came out in what 50s, which sorry for anybody who still you're you're thriving. I'm sure you're
not old. I'm sorry. Hey, Rob, Rob Zombie made a monsters movie in 2022. There's still some monsters,
monsters fans out there. I mean, I grew up on the monster. It's like, oh yeah, make a nice family.
We can. Baby, we've talked about where, you know, children of that generation where there was a
Nick and Knight channel and that's how we watched I Love Lucy, how we watched the witch, which I
just sharing my genie. What else is happy days and happy days? Watch a lot of Brady
Munch. All of those shows. And yeah, and even in this movie to talk about the monster like little
that was that's on the TV. And you get like we get some great shots of just watching the episode.
And yeah, grandpa is yelling yelling all the time. But they're doing a drag race competition. And
the like Frankenstein's monster character. I can remember what he what his name is like
Herman. Herman is like the pit crew. He's like the drag car. And so I'm like, I could have driven
that way faster. Yeah, he's like, shut up. You're missing the. You're missing the goddamn point.
How this movie looks because I think yeah, you mentioned that earlier. I think that's like
an interesting way to get in because I can see why like looking at Rob Zombie's IMDB before
his directorial debut, he directed a lot of his music videos into Nazi Osborne music video. And
I could totally see why where there's like flashes of like an interesting look or or
composure of something. But it's just flashes, man, because everything else is so fucking messy and
ugly. And I'm sure he purposely made a lot of this movie ugly. This movie is ugly. But the way
that he chose to instill the 70s graininess into it, along with like the saturation, like
there's a there's no limit to it that I see what he was going for. And there's moments where it
works well, even like I don't need the opening shot of showing the neon sign and going down.
I was like killer cam. Yeah. Well, just like there was they use some sort of crane or something
because it started on the sign and then lower down into the the gas station or whatever. And I
was like, oh, OK, a little little crane shot or whatever. And when they go into the when she
goes at the end into the big bone sculpture, I was like, wow, that looks that looks cool. And
yeah, it's like it's kind of shot from like a lower level. So it's like her it's almost below
her waist. And yeah, you get to see that, you know, insane room, which yeah, that the what that
represents all that is wild. Yeah, but I mean, a lot of the other of the other stuff. Yes,
amateurish in a way that's supposed he wants it to be that way. And I guess a lot of the stuff
that I particularly did just fucking hate, but was the interstitial stuff of just random bullshit
of like, oh, we're going on the next scene. But before we do, we're going to show random shots of
of his wife dancing or or just shots of like driving through the fields or weird old signs and
you know, along the roadside or a guy with like, like with a shotgun, God is coming.
Whatever. And we're in hell. Yeah, we are in hell. Yeah. But like, I guess the movie was already made.
He invited his friends over to his place and just shot with like a little video like handcam or
whatever, all this random bullshit and just threw it in to edit around. And that is the kind of stuff
that is so overcompensatory, like it's overcompensating so much in a way that's like,
you're not confident that things can just exist on its own. You got a fucking pump bit full of
twisted upsetting stuff. And it made me dizzy at sometimes with how like crazy the handicap was.
And even like the cops at like, they're driving around at some point near the end and they're
just driving down the road and it's just doing all this crazy fucking shit that editing choices that
were I could see working in like a music video. Very contemporary. It's a lot of fast editing.
It's a lot of woe was very popular at the time. But that's not good. You don't want a bad natural
and killer is kind of for sure. I agree. Yeah, because like.
I feel like the intent of a lot of that stuff is to.
Make it seem like these old horror movies, you know, and purposely look like these old horror
movies, but it's almost like it just puts a filter on it and it isn't the cameras in position well,
or it isn't actually shot on like a film that would that's actually what you want. You know,
you're just taking like more of a digital camera approach and then just putting a filter on it
and being like, oh, you know, this is like those old. This is like, you know, House on the Left or
Texas Chainsaw Massacre. And it just looks like dog shit. Also, too, that I want to bring up that
infrared shit that could see us. Remember that? Remember that? That was it. Yeah. The cops are
driving around and it shows like a fucking negative infrared. Like of just them driving around. It's
like, why? Why? Who cares? And even a shot that I was like, oh, this looks kind of cool. But then I
realized, oh, like, yeah, it's just so amateurish when Walton Goggins gets executed that slow crane
up. Oh my God. And it stops. I was I thought I thought I paused the thing is like, I don't think
it's only stops, which is what like I was like, oh, this is kind of cool. And then it like it
does look like it stops. But I think it's still kind of moving a little bit. And then and then the
guy who has a gun is being told off camera like, okay, shoot now. And he wasn't told to shoot now
because they're like, we can go a little bit higher, a little bit. Okay, now the tension we're
building. Yeah, it was almost good. I was like, you got if you guys just cut somehow made that five
seconds shorter and have him shoot or something. But that's where it just felt like, oh, we can get
this cool crane shot. And then it made how long it lasted. It made me realize like, oh, he just did
this for the shot rather than being like in the mode in the movie and everything. But yeah, I think
I mean, the looks and everything, it's an it's an ugly movie throughout everything. And yeah,
like I said, there's just those flashes of the color, you know, calling back to a 70s sort of
saturation, which there's elements where I kind of almost like it kind of almost like it as the
best I can say. But as far as like, yeah. Yeah, but again, it's like, it's one of those things that
was really prevalent in this time of filmmaking, that is a big no no because hopefully we've learned
that it looks like shit. And the why of it is wrong in my mind. We've talked about this like
an example is like movies like swordfish or whatever. Oh my God. Or just just generally,
these filmmakers grew up on the gritty 70s films. So there are these guys that are making these
movies in the early 2000s are huge 70s film buffs. But time and time again, they do the color
correction and saturation to make it look like a 70s. But it is not framed like a 70s movie.
It's not Sean. It's not Sean on film. It's like, again, it's your it's a typical digital
filmmaking perspective of everything's like really clear. It's pretty close up on the action. And then
they just put a filter on it, essentially, but a real 70s movie. A lot of times it's like really
far back. You get like it's, you know, it's more of a widescreen. And it's just and it's got and
it's more about natural colors and the over saturation makes everything unnatural, which is
that's the sin of it all in my mind is like, you're not paying a good homage to these 70s films just
by color correcting it to make it look like this because there's no way to unnaturally, at least
at this time, maybe there it is now. But you know, because like I would assume
like the holdovers Thomas Paine's movie. That's a great example of something done well on that
style. Yeah, that's very difficult to do to make it actually feel like that because definitely
people want that sort of feeling, but it's yeah, it's definitely not done well in a lot of times.
Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah. And it's and it's so funny because like
these guys again, really love the these 70s 70s movies and whatnot. And it's weird to think that
they feel like they're paying a good homage by doing this kind of bullshit, where you're just
nonsensically putting in things with that are heavily filtered and you're just like adding
stuff in in ways that like are more avant garde, but they're just like kind of bringing like phase
to a halt and like not really moving things along like, yeah, it really feels like a haunted house,
you're just going through the haunted house like scary this scary that but there's no nothing
holding anything together. It's just you're going along for the ride and just shown scary things.
Absolutely. And and like she like like she could do like with like, you know, I feel
populated. I guess I'm scared. I don't know. Look at it.
I think you brought up that. Yeah. It's really good to just kind of reiterate of how much this
movie is influenced by him coming from making music videos because like just what you said with
the Walter Goggins, like when he dies, it was really kind of dumb to me. But I but a very music video
is a lot of that like gunpoint tension and cops getting killed was all with music over it. And
people were actually like saying words, which couldn't hear them. And there was just music
playing over it. And then it's got that phonetic editing where it's like, you know, with the music
kind of cutting through into the house back outside of the house and all of this shit. And it's
it really takes the like wind out of the sails of, you know, the first cop getting murdered and the
standoff and the potential like overall battle between those two. Like, I mean, also to the
battle is very quick. It's like, Nope, you're dead. Nope, you're dead. Nope, you're dead. And
okay, great. So everybody's dead. And I hate the song choices here. It's like, it's just always in
the song. Oh, isn't this so contradictory? Isn't this so, you know, we're playing a brick house
over a fucking torture scene, you know, it's like I watch Clockwork Orange and I can do the same
thing. But it's just it, it's, it doesn't, it just doesn't mean anything. It just there's no,
there's no meaning behind it. And that yeah, that music video style style, like in the haunted
housing, it just really feels like vignettes of horror surrounded by this, this family and
even like this, yeah, like, transferring from Sid Hague's character in the clown and the oddity
shop to going to the tree and even picking up that's as I think his wife that gets picked
over one of the one of the ladies that gets picked up. And the and the combination of
read just is so disparate in those moments as well. It doesn't it doesn't really like
tie everything together. And like they sit down to watch this show. Yeah. And Chris Hardwick is
like, Yay, oh, wow, this is great. And I yeah, but then it sucks. And I mean, it's also really
it's I mean, it's not a. How do I frame this because like, I was gonna say it's not a fun
performance, almost like from like a physiological sense because the way the show starts is
the the grandpa just helps over and over again. And Hardwick is just losing his mind, like even
says this guy is so funny. And like, he's just screaming pussy with like porridge coming out of
his mouth. And it's no fucking lame and and just not funny, not funny. Well, yeah, it's like I
he looks at it like in my mind, a reaction is good, whether people are grossed out or
italy did. And I think in his mind, people are kind of titillated by some of this shit is like
what he's kind of going for is like, there's horror, there's grotesque things. It's just
white fit and like a G string. I mean, crazy, right? Yeah. I just don't that sexual violence
is something that I don't understand the the way that it's framed in this. And I said, I guess
like the snuff and the exploitation of it all. But I just there's that's something that will never
I'll never get on board for and I'll never that'll never speak to me. And that's not ever something
in a movie that I feel like I'll want to seek out unless it's like really, truly trying to upset
you. But when it gets to those points, let's flip on a fun brick house or some other thing. And like
like people are going to laugh at this or when he sees people watching it, if they're like,
ew, gross. Oh, it's like, oh, this horror movie is working really well because they're grossed out.
And to me, that is not something I necessarily want to experience a lot during a movie. Maybe
certain points in a horror movie, it gets to that like, ooh, ooh, ooh. But seeing a guy eating
eating through prosthetics, Agatha Krispies, which look like fucking out of a dog bowl and
everything and have it last so long and have him just like very like misery, right?
Yeah, I guess he's she's tied up and but it's not a good version of it. It's just a.
I love that actor, though. The big guy. Yeah, he's a big fish.
Big fish. What? That guy. He's a little weird. Because he's got the mask and all the prosthetics,
but I'm like, I know this guy. He's he seemed like a really wonderful human being.
He's probably the sweetest man ever. I bet he's got that gentle giant. Like even as like a fucked
up weirdo, he still has that energy of like, oh, well, I mean, he's just like, it's not his fault.
Yeah, he's he's just he's simple. It's just a product of the circumstance. Yeah. Yeah,
totally. Everybody else is the problem. I mean, but pretty much down the line of the
INDB when I would click on people's names like known for House of the Thousand Corpses, like
they a lot of people didn't do other stuff besides like Walton Goggins. The grandpa was like an old
actor that's been in a bunch of stuff. And yeah, I guess a few here and there. It's cool to see
if someone like Walton Goggins making a career past this because that guy is the fucking best.
Yes. Hmm. He really is. Yeah, it's it's fascinating to think about. Yeah, this movie 2005, him being
in a and then really we've just seen such a dog and Renaissance happening over the last like five,
not too long, right? I would say like, I think people really started like Jango and hateful
aid, I feel like we're some of them, some of the big ones. Yes, it's like that. People start to take
notice, but I want to I feel like really people started to notice. Yeah, right after this first
TV stuff, you know, like that's where he I don't know. Right. Just gemstones, I think got got
another season coming season four. So it's funny. It's funny. It's funny. What's funny in this movie,
Brandon? Is there anything that's that's funny? I'm trying to think if I had a laugh,
have a laugh, do you have a laugh? Yeah, the off. I mean, we got rain Wilson. We got rain Wilson.
I don't know who else is funny. Hardwick is not there's not a moment that I laugh with him. I
guess it's just like Sid Hague with the middle finger thing was kind of a funny like visual
thing and just him like snorting when he was laughing in front of the pigs and he just happened to
wear like his pig shirt or whatever. Yeah, no, he's talking to pigs. He has like this shirt with
like a picture of a pig on it and I was like, oh, real, real, you know, subtle there. But yeah,
this is I think there's a movie is supposed to be darkly humorous in some way. It doesn't I'm just
yeah, we're going through the list of like all the things that it it fails on and I was trying to
think of like any sort of like silver lining about this movie, but it's just it was so upsetting.
Yeah, I mean, I think to speak positively about it, I am interested when I zoom out enough of the
concept that there is a person working the streets that brings people into the house and then the
house is actually one level and then the house is actually working for a lower level. And it's like
and each one is more intense evil. I found that to be interesting because I think it's
it's relatively successful in communicating that the drama and the and the and the
of the Dr. Satan is like seeping from underground and affecting the people on top. And then that is
like, you know, facilitating this whole network of evil that is operating under like capturing
people who stop at the gas station and then are lured into the house, which then those people
are dropped into the well or to the hold and then said to Dr. Satan, I mean, for a movie that's not
bad, I like I know I hate a lot of times I don't like exposition dumps. But if there was one,
that just how you explained it there, I think that might have put it together a little bit more
for me. I like now that I think about it, I put those things together in my mind in the same way
I was kind of complaining earlier about the women being so separate from the oddity shop and
everything and then how it does escalate at the end. I think I was just so over it by that time.
But I thought going into the yeah, that's the big skull sculpture. And then I thought the doc,
the doctor, the guy that was like working on Dr. Satan, maybe I don't know.
I thought he looked pretty fucking cool. Yeah, I was like got these like needle hands.
And I was like, this guy is fucking gross. I like that. Okay. But kind of madman almost to
almost to the point you were you didn't fully make what you were alluding to at least the way that I
interpreted what you said is like we were shown what Dr. Satan looked like in the monster tunnel
at the gas station. And so we are introduced to what he looks like. Then when we finally get there,
there's almost like two Dr. Satan. There's the Dr. Satan that's the actual Dr. Needler. But then
there's the monster that honestly looks more like what we originally said. It was kind of like
which one's Dr. Satan? Yeah, because even at the end when he's like, I'll bring you to the
doctor and then she wakes up and she's looking at both of them, I feel like she's looking at the
surgeon and then she sees the eyes or whatever. You know, like he's out of the bruise, right?
There he goes like that. That was one of the vocal reactions I had on the movie. Like, come on.
Oh, come on. I was eating breakfast. Like I said, I watched this in the morning and I stopped eating.
I was like, oh, okay, because I had like half a bagel left. And I was like, I don't want this.
That was one of my least favorite editing choices during that moment too when they have when he's
about to swing the axe and then the edit just goes like back and forth to them really quick. It's
and then he hits the thing and he like caves in on him. But that kind of stuff was just yeah,
it's so overdone and underdone at the same time. It's it's so weird. It's the setting is great for
a horror movie, right? I was kind of pressed. Yeah. And there's like, you see the thousand corpses,
right? Because like, and it's also a slow roll, which wasn't was pretty interesting. It's like,
you know, the girl escapes and runs to the graveyard. And then it's like a fuckload of crosses,
like a bunch of graves, right? And then you go underneath the ground and then it's nothing but
skulls and emphasizes skulls. And then you get to this weird rec room that monsters are watching
TV eating food. Wait a minute. So is it the like a recovery room? Like, okay. So when he
like lobotomizes you, you get to eat cereal and you get to eat cereal and then he actually kind of
like stumbles into the room and then everybody's like, wait a minute, you're not supposed to be here.
And then it goes over to the actual monster. Whoa, that guy is fucking creepy as hell.
And Chris Hardwood just gets a milksman. Like he like he gets half scout and then he gets
a full scalp at that point. And yeah, it just hangs around the movie, just not speaking or
anything, but just there. And yeah, and even opening up to the yeah, what in Goggins opens up to the
cheerleaders. And like you kind of get a little glimpse of what happened there. The father gets
shot. And I thought like, one of the scare, like, that wasn't just gross, but like, oh, it's creepy.
And it could be done better, but it's still creepy of like, and it's gross as well. But when
he puts on the father's face and the body and everything like, and then is free. Yeah,
like give us a kiss and all that stuff. I was like, this is an idea that is fucked up and could kind
of work on me a little bit too. And maybe a better movie. But I and I'm sure that's called back to
to change the face and everything. You know, yeah, like it's I love that point of yes, that is
that is interesting. This idea of. Doing this to these cheerleaders and to these kids because of
maybe they're motivated by them, you know, being freaks of being outcast and being weirdos and like
kind of the driving force behind their like need to mutilate them and turn them into the pieces of
art was also kind of this three like very like mentioned, but never fully fleshed out this idea
of like he needed to be inspired to turn these corpses into artwork and stuff. The rain will
send a thing. I like that idea of like making them a part of the oddity shop, you know, you could
have gone a little bit further with that. But the fishboy thing, that was pretty effective.
Oh, yeah, that was disgusting. I really freaked out. I would say that was honestly one of the
more scarier things. And that's honestly what we've been talking about this whole time is the
reason that it's fucking scary is because that was the only person in this whole movie we were
like kind of like on board with. So when he gets mutilated and turned into this disgusting, like
our corpse fixture, it really made me almost throw up. I was like really like, oh, no, fuck, this
sucks. Yeah. And it's just a still like look at it like not like any action or anything. It's just
like look at this, you know, look at what happened. And it's the practical effects of that are pretty
good too. Yeah, I mean, it is funny, though, if you because it shows the whole like
art installation. And it's clearly like rain Wilson in like half of his body is underneath
the table and the top half is above it because it's like he's on a table that has like a drape
in the front. It's like kind of like a high table. So it's like he clearly seems like oh,
it's you know, it's him, you know, doing like a magic, you know, one of those magic tricks where
happens to his body, it's underneath the table or whatever. Yeah, if I walked into a haunted house
and I saw that just there, I'd be like, whoa, and then like, I started moving or something because
it's you know, whatever. Yeah, he's not. Yeah, there's yeah, that's all it is. It's just like
you walk through this scary haunted house and walk out and no substance. And that was pretty scary.
And I just go on with my day. But I don't know. It's just so surface level in a way this movie.
And when it's about to get a little deeper, it just kind of cruises right past it. And I don't
know, I'm kind of nearing the end of my thoughts on this a little bit. Like is there any big stuff
that we're kind of like leaving out? I check out my notes here a little bit. I really didn't take
much notes. Yeah, I kind of let the movie happen. Yeah, I mean, it's it's not like I really needed
notes to because I mean, it's not like it's a complicated story. And it's not like there's
yeah, I don't know. I didn't yeah, again, there wasn't a lot of things that I was watching where
I felt compelled to be like, oh, I need to write this down because this is like would be worth
talking about. Right, dude, I know. I watched it. I got it. You know, we'll get into our overall
feelings here. It sounds like soon. But yeah, it's like, I didn't I don't know. I didn't feel
compelled at all to write anything. I watched the movie. It wasn't like I was really like
second screening. I kind of I really watched the movie. I remember it because it just happened
today. But yeah, I didn't I didn't feel compelled at all. There was enough batshit dialogue happening
off like right off the bat that I was like, oh, the whole movie's going to be like this. I don't
need to write every little crazy line down. One of them one of the I took very little notes. But
one of the lines I did write was how long you've been running this place? How long is a piece of
string was his response? Uh huh. Too long. Oh, that's the same. Okay. And then you know,
what's funny too, to that point, it's like then the conversation continues and rain Wilson is just
like a normal person explaining like, oh, we're writing about like oddities throughout America.
You know, you you get what we're talking about, right? Like if you were to travel to another town,
you might find something similar to this, right? And then he's like, huh? I know. What are you
talking? I don't go anywhere. It's like, right. But if you did go somewhere, couldn't you imagine
that this could, you know, people like you exist somewhere else? He's like, yeah, I wouldn't go
anywhere. He's like, but if you did, if you ask one more dumb question, he's like, what's with
all the shitty questions? Like, all right, well, fuck. Yeah, you're right. I'm sorry to bother you.
Fuck. I'll just turn up this movie. It's like putting out in the world. It's like, okay, well,
if you can't fucking beat me on my level, then fuck you. I'm out of here.
How about how about that chicken? He had a shirt on that said if I wanted to listen to an asshole,
I'd fart. I saw that shirt. I shut the giant guy. He had a shirt on her really late tonight.
Again, I didn't write it down. I remembered it. And it just said, what did it say? It said,
cheap Halloween costume. Cheap ass Halloween costume.
That's I get the Krispies. I think I get the Krispies is my favorite though. Yeah.
That's so, you know, you asked earlier, when did I laugh at this movie? I think all of the scenes
involving Matthew McGrory, the big guy, this is funny. And the reason they were funny is because
I don't know. Again, that gives off an energy of like,
like when Sid Hague wears a shirt like that, clearly from jump, he's a sarcastic asshole who
doesn't give a shit about anybody. So him wearing that shirt is like, oh, like it was it's almost
like if you like you're like, I don't want to talk to that person, you know? But the big guy and
his shirt, it's kind of, I don't know, it's it's he's never positioned as an asshole. If anything,
they're like, he's a very like has a sweetheart. Like the mom says that. I know we haven't really
talked about the mom, but I don't know if you really need to or Rob Zombie's wife. Because like,
again, like, I don't, it's yeah. What do you need to say? It's like, it's honestly, the only thing
I would say that always kind of made me uncomfortable is like, and maybe I'm being approved. I don't
know. I had this like, this argument in my head about this is of like, sexualizing my wife on screen.
You know, like making a point of like the camera looking at her ass and her wearing clothes and
she like that. Cause like, there's two times in the movie where like, right when rain gets there,
there's just a clear shot of a pants or like sliding down her butt. And then she like sits next to
him. But the camera's like, look at this ass. And then she goes into that liquor store with
what is it? Goober. And she's wearing like assless chaps. And then the camera's like,
right, looking at her assless chaps as she walking in. And I don't know how you feel about this,
but this idea of like, well, I mean, it's his wife. So if she's okay with it, then, you know,
I don't know, I guess it's fine. But it's like, you feel like you're kind of a part of their kink
or something. Like bringing you in. Yeah, this is good sexual for me sucked into this. But I mean,
I guess if you're going to marry a guy like Rob Zombie, I guess you're going to be, you're going
to be down to I wonder if she's in like some of his like music videos and stuff too. I bet because
I mean, her like IMDB or whatever, she is a actress and a model, I think is usually how I
saw it. I think it's really only acted in Rob Zombie's movies. I saw that she was in a brief
stint of Californication brand. And I don't know if you remember, but I guess she was in a little
bit, which I could kind of picture. But I think the thing that doesn't make me have a lot to say
about them is that their beats as an actor, their wants and needs and how they portray it is the
same throughout. And it gets really fucking boring when they're I get that they're, you know,
crazy kind of cult members sort of sort of people. But they're just laughing and
having a great time the whole way. Like if I don't know, just if there was like a different side of
them, I saw it would have been a little bit more interesting, but they're just doing the same thing
the whole time. And that kind of goes for all the characters. They're very flat characters that don't
really offer a lot of depth. I know it's like maybe this isn't the movie that I should want
something like that. No, no, they are every single character is kind of doing the same thing every
thing, every scene. And that was boring and one note for for them as actors and for the the movie
as well. I get that they all have the roles to fill within the family and everything. But
I don't know that it just was like such a portrayal of like crazy or like such a
such an obvious stereotypical sort of way. And there's some mention of the Manson.
And it doesn't some some characters say like the the Manson is it girls or something or like kind
of hot or something? Is that was that in this movie? That was yeah, that was hard. But
Ralph fucking, of course, it is. So I don't know. It was it was really trying to elicit that a little
bit. But that got old for me after a while, the little bit between the older cop and bringing
him into the house is pretty good, I guess, about, you know, their chemistry and leading
him in and everything. But it's just so brief. And there's just no ratcheting up of tension,
as I said, and no living in a moment for as for an hour and a half movie and everything. There's
any time there could be a brief moment they throw in all this fucking crazy editing and weird,
you know, shots to to like think that they're jolting you awake or something. But it's like,
no, motherfucker, like I'm I'm awake. I just saw, you know, I got the Krispies getting spilt out of
a mouth. I saw like, you know, fucking how many fucking torture scenes and the who's and so the
father is that like the father or whatever, like that's that's who he is, right? They call him daddy
and he wears like the the mass or like the face and all that stuff. And he's kind of orchestrating
everything. And then at the end, he's just laying in the back of the car. Oh, she doesn't.
She's so you know, she's out of it. Yeah. Yeah, she's out of it. But it's like it's like it's
also to like, yeah, it's it's such a corny bullshit, you know, where it's like, oh,
it wants it's that it's the camp that it's trying to instill as well. And I get that it's the snuff
and the exploitative sort of thing, but it's also trying to be very campy. And we've talked about
this on this podcast before where it's just a contrived camp, like, and that's sometimes it
works, sometimes it doesn't for the most part, it doesn't, because it's trying so hard to to be campy,
when a lot of the best parts of a campy thing is when it's done sincerely, in a certain mode,
and then the audience takes it and digests it and comes up with their own interpretation of it,
which is like, I'm not laughing with you, I'm laughing at you. But if the person who's making
the piece of art already is trying to instill that reaction in the audience, it's a very fine
line to try to try to pull that off. And most of the time, I don't think it works. And I think
there's a lot of things that try to elicit nostalgia as well, mixed with that camp, that
is just so contrived. And I think for somebody who has never even seen all of
Texas Chainsaw Massacre, you can just I can just feel it that he's trying to be something that
is already happened. So why the fuck would I watch this movie? And why wouldn't I just watch
Texas Chainsaw Massacre? I don't know. But this is a polarizing movie. And I yeah, there's a lot of
the audience members that that do really like it. I'll take it. Yeah. I mean, I just yeah, to like
speak on the polarization of it, like, you got to just assume that the fair amount of it is probably
Rob Zombie fans just by and large, you know, showing up for Rob's and on me. And it's, you know,
given Rob's whole vibe in his music videos and his music and his looks and all of this stuff is like.
I mean, he's given people that like him probably exactly what they want is like, I don't know,
fucked up practical visual effects and like, you know, guns and violence and sex and rock and roll,
you know, that's fair. Yeah. Like he didn't come out of nowhere. He was Rob Zombie before he made
this movie. I mean, it's like from Rob Zombie House of 1000 Corpses, like, you know, essentially a
version of like, yeah, what you're what you're going to get. And people want to hold out. Right.
Like, you know, he didn't. It's yeah, I don't know. You definitely don't get that sense that he's,
you know, trying to be somebody he's not. So, you know what, that would be my my biggest. Yeah.
Acculent to the movie. I really like Texas Chainsaw Massacre. I want to be like that and mix of my
own stuff as well. A little. It's a half monsters, half Texas Chainsaw Massacre is that's his whole
vibe. Oh, there was the when they're driving in the car when they first pick her up. She's like,
oh, I love this song. Turn it up. And it is the most insane song I've ever heard in my life.
And it's like the most lo-fi, like barely even can. It's like coming through AM radio on the
shitty channel. And it's just a weird instrumental of like,
I guess I kind of laughed at that a little bit. But yeah, Showtime. That was that was something
where the grandpa said Showtime and I had that whole big Showtime title card.
If there was less crazy editing and everything that would have hit harder to which is I keep on
finding other ways to say it. But like, when you do all this other stuff, then you do find a moment
to try to build tension. It doesn't work. Or if you do try to do something that like
is original and unique and like, you know, if out of nowhere, that would have been kind of cool if
that if I didn't expect something like that to happen. And there to be a big Showtime title
card. I'm like, whoa, this is this is cool. Yeah, right. When it's mixed with all the other bullshit,
it just doesn't do anything. Yeah. No, totally. Yeah. It's in the split screen. It just moved
for the most part is pointless. Yeah, it comes off as it's just ineffective. It's contrived. It's
so clearly wearing your inspirations on your sleeve and it's not really bringing enough of you
and your own spin and invention to it. You're just like, here's a thing that I like. And here's a
thing that I like. And it's just it would have it would be who have him to have more of a focus,
more consistent mood and theming and like, aesthetical cohesion throughout and like more.
Yeah, just getting a little bit more laser focused on stuff as opposed to just having this
or, I don't know, yeah, very chaotic collage of influences that don't really have much to say
other than what they've already said. And it's like, it's it's very cheap to me to do that to not
really. The only intention is to go look out cool. This thing that existed was like, you need more.
You know, it's like, yeah, yeah, it is cool. Okay. And like, and what about it? And having like,
characters like they're like, just there's no, this is all artifice to be some, like,
which very much as a music video to you don't need to worry about so much about characters
and dialogue and everything. It's just all about the artifice and the visual nature of it and just
nature of it and just pushing along a series of events. But he has no care for either fleshing
out characters or having them be a be a part of it. They are just pawns in the game. They're all
props to be used to create set pieces and scenes that he already has in his head. And it's just
such a reverse engineered sort of thing of like, we need to get here and there doesn't really matter
who or what it just is. We just want to have this happen. And
why like, you need to care in some way, shape or form about the people in the movie. And
you do. You do. Yeah. You know what? To me, it's, I am just okay, pretty like not
deeply knowledgeable on like Rob's like a lot of wrong zombie stuff. But I've seen him in interviews
like on Howard Stern and places like that. And he seems like such a like mild mannered,
articulate, nice guy, you know, and it's, and it's like a classic situation of like all of this,
all of this like, edgy, dramatic, sinister look is really just, it's almost like he's, it's playfulness.
You know, having a sensibility of like,
I don't, yeah, like this camp a little bit, right. And I honestly, yeah, I just, I wish there was
more of that in this movie of, of sure characters could be grotesque looking and be sinister and
objective, but they need more like interesting things to say and more, more motive or motivation
conveyed to us so that we can just understand at least the depth of like, why we should give a
shit about any of these people. And it really just doesn't care. It's so it's, it's real, it's a
short movie. Like, yeah, it's crazy. Like, it's not that I want this movie to be longer, definitely
not. But there's so much time spent on like we said, like, infrared car driving sequences and
shit. It's like, get that shit out of there, remove some of this stuff of like somebody just
yelling the same thing over and over and over again and fill this movie up with like more
conversations with the family talking to each other. So you have a better dynamic of like,
where everybody is power wise or like what each individual family members motivations are, or at
least, you know, like, who have all of that. And it just this movie is starved for because
it what's presented to us, at least the way that I feel about it is like, yeah, again,
I mean, I feel like a broken record, but it's hard to give a shit about this movie that doesn't
really like give a shit about me or give a shit about its characters. So that's, that's rough.
I'm sorry. No, I feel like I'm about there's not much for else for me to say without sounding
like a broken record to because you already know that things are going to be bad at the place.
Like that's how the cold open started. And so when they arrive, it's a matter of when they
are about to find out that things are wrong. And the point that they do and the point where
things kick off is like, lame as well, they're driving away. And then Rain Wilson just gets
like smat and like the ugliest dark that's like dark with a lame blue light. He just comes out
of nowhere with his random fucking mask. And then the girls like, lock the doors, lock the doors.
Get in the fucking driver's seat and drive away. Come on. Get participant.
Oh, no, if we just close the doors. We've done we're caught. We're busted.
And that was that was the moment things you're like, Oh my god, things aren't going to go on that.
Yeah, from telegraph to there's just this movie lacked. I I don't think ever in this movie I was
surprised or or rich, genuinely scared. I was unnerved, right? Like unsettled because of just
a sheer grotesque images on the screen. But I never was like scared. I never really was like,
Oh, what's going to happen? Like every fucking which way this movie just clearly telegraphs to you.
What is going to happen? Like you're pointing with the the car driving scene already leading up to
that. We've got it got introduced to the person who's telling them where to go as being a person
who can easily kill somebody who like doesn't care about people. So it's just like, well, we obviously
know he's sending them to a place they're going to get hurt. And then once they get there, it's like
how convenient is that this girl is there and like you should go to my house that's house that's
house that's right next to this tree. And it's like every step of the way you're not like,
what's going to happen? Oh, man, I just I I have no idea what what I'm in for. Like I know exactly
what I'm for. I wish I wasn't so done with the movie by the time it happened. But I was a little
a little surprised to see like zombie guys coming out of the water. Yeah, we got lower down. They're
going to get buried alive. Okay, that's pretty scary. But I was because he started throwing the
dirt down and everything. And then he put this recorder down with a light. And I was like, what's
that for? And I guess it was to bring all the people to life or whatever. And I was like,
man, I really wish I was still invested because I just don't care anymore. But
some of that stuff at the end had, yeah, the tunnel looked okay. And
absolutely. Yeah, and the physical stuff. That's another thing too, right? It's like, I think both
of us agree that the practical effects are not bad. It's not only things really looked
interestingly and really, I mean, honestly, now I have to say like, this is a huge credit to the
movie is none of the costuming or the practical effects were bad. There wasn't a time where I
was like, ooh, that looks like shit. And there are plenty of times in movies like this, where you're
clearly like, this looks like shit, you know, this looks like cheap. It isn't edited correctly,
where you kind of like see too much or, you know, you see too little. And like it just, it does well.
And it does thrive, which is a major objective of the major objective of this movie. And
yeah, I mean, the set looked like fucking shit. And I'm in like all the fucking clutter of everything,
like that was purposeful. And like, that's what he wanted to do, whether it's for me and whether I
want to be in that space, you know, obviously it's a scary movie and there's yeah, you don't want to
be there. Yeah, that's the whole point of it. But like, but it is. Yeah, it's like realized in a way.
And when Walton Goggins is walking around being like, man, they need a yard sale and there's
this fucking like stockings like Christmas stockings. Right when they get to the house,
she's like, this is my wall where I took all the dolls heads off and post them to the wall.
Oh, okay. You know what? We're gonna wait until I mean that the the input like more implications
like opening a door and seeing a pile of shoes. Oh, that means something. You can see a pile of
shoes and not have it be like, oh, yeah, you know, there's a lot of clutter. But then this this pile
of clutter like actually means something. And I don't know, I love that those parts and scary
movies where you can intuit the things yourself. And I wish, yeah, those I love how you describe
the three levels of it all. And if there was a little bit more access in as the audience to
get into the mystery of this place or whatever, but I don't want it to be overexplained either. So
I don't know. And I just felt like I was in the hands of a fucking madman.
He heard this whole ride and it was a quick one. But even then it was exhausting. And
I it didn't do a lot for me this this whole thing. So that'll be where I leave it for now. And I would
say we can take a look at some thoughts. You want to take a break or at all? Or should we keep on
going? Let's take a quick bathroom break. And then let's get it. Okay, be right back.
All right, we are back. House of 1000 Corpse is we are returning to our discussion. And
actually, I think we're done with our discussion. I think we want to hear a little bit more from
the critics and audiences online. Why we are here is because it is polarizing
to these two camps of people. When did this movie come out again? 2003? Sounds about right.
We were, yeah, 13 year old boys. Yeah, this should have hit well for edgy edgy edgy lords like us.
But I didn't know that was that was not a lot. Yeah, couple of edgy lords. That's that. I mean,
hot topic. I mean, that was a thing at the time. Let's check it out. Top critics from Rotten Tomatoes
will go with Jamie Russell from BBC.com. A tour de farce of depressing inanity that's unable to
do anything more than offer a messy incoherent pastiche of other better movies. Can't really,
that kind of nailed it. That was a one out of five from them. Daniel Feinberg from LA Weekly.
Zombie wants his film to be gleefully demented, but he fails to grasp that loud and bred evil
people torturing stupid grading benign people isn't disturbing as much as tedious.
Totally from Adam Naiman. I weekly, I haven't heard of this publication, but it's on tomato,
so we got to read it. Zombies attempted postmodernism has neither the intelligence nor the conviction
to work. He may fancy himself a genuine devil, but he comes off here as a poser of cheap and low order.
Tim Cogs shell for box office magazine. If that even is a thing over the course of the film,
many funny, gory and silly, but not particularly horrifying events occur.
Not scary. Rick grown from globe and male grown is that sounds like one of the names you'd see
at the beginning of a Treehouse of Horror episode. And this field of endeavor, any intense reaction
is unsustainable for the obvious reason that the guiding principle of repetition comes with an
inevitable, inevitable, corollary and unavoidable side effect. Sheer boredom. That's why I feel
like I numb at a certain point. Everything you just wanted to go turn my mind off and go away.
No, Lieberman entertainment. What's that? I don't want to be read.
I want to see him in a scary movie. I just want to see more of him.
I would have loved for him to just actually that might have fit in this movie.
Yeah, totally. That's something hard to say. I want to believe her men from entertainment
weekly. So I wish man, could you imagine instead of Chris Hardwick was oh my god.
Oh, I would love that so much more. Yeah. Because anyway, yeah, just like it would be funny.
Like, you know, his performance is very emblematic of the movie as well. It's just like that you
could be deadpan a little bit with some of the jokes that you're making and all that stuff.
But you're like, haha, look at how funny I am because I'm loud and and doing a lot of hand
motions. Yeah, it's like, tone it down. Tone it down movie. Tone it down. Hardwick. No points
for you. No points for a hardwick in this movie. Yes. Yeah. Owen Gleamerman said House of a Thousand
Corpses isn't coherent exactly. But what dripping ghoul horror movie is these days speaks to the
state of horror movies, I guess at that time and how critics felt about them.
And we'll do one more from Scott Foundess from Variety, a cobwebbed mummified horror entry
that makes obvious cartoonishly grotesque demands for attention.
Just wants your attention so bad. Look at me. Look at it. Look at how fucked up it is.
Let's check out some audience reviews from Letterbox. I've been enjoying the Letterbox
reviews. All five stars here for the audience I'm going to be reading off of.
Follow us on Letterbox too. What's that?
Quick plug. Yeah. Follow us on Letterbox. Yeah.
Sure. Yeah. What is my, do you know your Letterbox?
I guess polarized. We can't really have one because we think differently about movies. But
yeah, I'm disco volante disco volante VOL ANTI for the Volante.
VOLANI.
One of my more. I just changed my name. That's why I'm sorry. It's continued just a minute.
But no, one of my recent entries was five stars for hundreds of beavers.
Three and a half for sleeping with the enemy. Those are some of those are some of mine.
I mean, I just did some reviews as well.
Yeah. Oh, I can pull you up. I am. I am the great brandini.
Oh, really? Oh, yeah. I'm the great brandini. I believe it's my.
Or will each reader of you read one of your reviews?
Yeah. My most recent review is GoldenEye.
Nice. GoldenEye. What'd you say about GoldenEye?
I gave it four stars and I said it's an incredible villain, the best Bond girl,
and Pierce Brosnan striking the right balance of the Bond persona. For me, it's a ton.
For me, it's a ton of the visual stylings that just don't look good.
The casualty of the era, the best Brosnan of the era for sure.
Yeah, definitely. Definitely the best, best Brosnan.
I get the visual element of that one. But yeah, it's still one of my favorite Bond movies. It's so,
so fun. And our like our era, you know, of in a way, Pierce Brosnan, even though I'd
like to take ownership of Daniel Craig as well.
I mean, and I would say it was the best Bond girl until like Vesper or till Lucidus character.
Because the Bond girl in in GoldenEye isn't the Bond girl. So the Natalia.
Who'd you say? Oh, I thought you said some I thought you said Lucy Lou for some reason.
I was like, oh, she's a great Bond girl. No, no, no, the Bond girl, the Natalia.
Oh, yes. She like knows more than Bond in the in a lot of situations is not it has so much more
agency and she has her own motivations and she's goes toe to toe like with Bond and doesn't.
Oh, yeah, I don't it's it's really so contemporary and such a good Bond girl that the Bond franchise
has always struggled with because they've always kind of made the Bond girl a beautiful woman who
goes along for the ride with James Bond.
Yeah, and Doctor, no. What is it? It's what's her name? It's Honey Rider, Honey Rider,
Honey Rider, not that little mango tree. But it still suffers from of the era where even though
she knows more about the area and she's like there on her like. Yeah, she's kind of got her
own thing going on. I mean, it just over time, the Bond girls just get like
really flat and single note and all it's about is like them looking good and they make attempts to
like make the female Bond girl or just the Bond girl more contemporary, but they always
have acid. And I feel like GoldenEye is arguably one of the first times where they really nail it
where it's she has depth, she has agency, it's very contemporary. She's an active participant
in the plot, so on and so forth. And she's also told us about shows. So, you know, yeah,
like how she's introduced and she's got her own thing kind of going on with Alan coming and stuff.
And they are contributing to the plot in a way before she's even introduced to Bond. She's
already involved as opposed to, yeah, there's other Bond girls that get introduced later
in the movie or something and are essentially Arm Candy and then meet a Grizzly End or something.
And she has a reason to be there, which I which I like. I agree. Oh, what was what was my most
reason or I'll do the sleeping with the enemy three and a half stars. I said, I've never been so
scared seeing neatly folded towels. You'll understand if you see the movie. Also, calling the
police to report a murder you are about to commit is cold blooded. Light spoilers. But, you know,
it's a yeah, it's pretty solid movie. Let's like, she wants to be caught.
Yeah, you'll see. You'll see in the movie. But man, just like,
fucking just holding a gun on someone and then just like calling. I like to report him.
And just fucking sick. Yeah, let's check out some thoughts on House of the Thousand Corpses
from these rabid fans. They might actually be a rabbit if they're going for the movie like this.
Ian Five Stars. Ari Aster rips off Rosemary's baby and the Wicker Man. Wow, such a master,
delivering the greatest horror movies of our time. Quentin Tarantino spends his entire career
paying homage to spaghetti Western's martial arts movies and more. One of the goats. Rob
Zobby pays homage to the Texas Chainsaw Massacre and debuts with a unique style that he displays
in each and every one of his following films. No, such hack such a hack and terrible filmmaker.
Oh, OK. All right. It's not like, you know, that's good. So fucking sensitive.
Can you clarify your being sarcastic? Because I actually agree with everything you're saying.
If you mean that seriously, but if you're being sarcastic, like, yeah, he's a
heck of a terrible filmmaker. Anyways, let's pull up another one from Mikey V. Five Stars.
Otis ranting to the cheerleaders is me talking to the bathroom mirror at 2 a.m.
From Jesse Five Stars, an obscene and obnoxious assault on the senses with tons of pointless
violence and other depravity. And I love it. I've always been a fan of anything zombie related
and doesn't get much more him than this. The Firefly family have truly become iconic.
There isn't much to say that horror fans haven't already said with fall being just around the
corner. I'm getting super stoked for a spooky season. This was August 19th, 2021.
Should I tell the film school guy I work with about my fondness of this movie tomorrow and
watch him die inside? Wow. I love the ownership of like they're already
manifesting an argument in their head about like I like this and express my love for it to other
people. They're going to be mad at me. It's like that has never even happened yet. You haven't
even said it. It's happening. You're already manifesting like this thing of like, I like it
and you don't. Yeah, like people have done a wrong to you that they haven't committed yet.
Yeah. Yeah. That's such a weird fallacy that I mean, yeah, it's it's very human. A lot of people
do that where they manifest what people how people are going to react to what they're going to
think, but you can never fully know that. And so it is a fallacy to dictate your action
your actions based on the assumption about how people are going to receive that. I mean, sure,
there there needs to be some tact and there needs to be some like you can't just, you know,
yeah, it's not good to just shout things and not care how people are going to feel about things,
you know, but don't like, I don't know if you really enjoy something, don't I don't know,
don't make it somebody out to be a bad guy before they even are bad. Yeah, yeah, it's like,
not quite guilty pleasure, but it's like a form of that where like you like something,
but you're already thinking of this other layer of like, oh, other people wouldn't. Yeah,
appreciate that. I like this or the fact that I do like it makes me makes me different. But
yeah, you can just like it. Yeah, no, no shame, no guilt needed.
Cat gave it a five stars. She's got a little spider in her name. That's cool. I don't know how you do
that. Clearly she's gonna like House of 1000 corpses. Um, yeah, 2023 first watch has to be
one of my all time favorites. We can expect an extraordinary movie that somehow tries to be
everything in the best way House of 1000 corpses is a colorful journey into hell,
different and varied and a mix of everything. Rob Zombie likes to confuse his viewers are
consciously torn from their comfort with his reoccurring color changes so that they stay awake.
This makes House of 1000 corpses a very intense experience and lives out its raw side and its
purest form, but it isn't just a spot pure splatter movie. It's also a sympathetically designed freak
show that you can really enjoy. Zombie's bloodshed aesthetic should be given a chance because even
if it can be very hard, especially in the devilish finale, it was set rolling with love for
detail in the right timing. Yeah, I mean, it is interesting to think about the timing of it because
it is such a product of its time. And I don't know if it could really be successful that came out
today, especially because we're now living in a post 824 world where I think a lot of audience
members when it comes to horror have kind of shown by enlarge by their consumption and the
numbers behind it that people were starved for horror to move away from camp and go away from
gore and by and large go away from jump scares by it, you know, and into more mood and like
dread. Yeah, like dread and that being much more effective in as the tool of the genre than
movies like this. Because yeah, I mean, if this came out today, I think it would just do terribly.
Yes, we're in the we're kind of a little bit past not past the Blumhouse thing, but that's
definitely had its heyday and now it's become such a such a such a big thing that those exist too.
But the yeah, I think the most successful version is something that can be a drama or
or have have characters that you're interested in at least, you know, and but I'm trying to think
in the most exploitative sort of thing that would that would happen today. And I it just isn't quite
the the nature of it these days. And if it is, it's probably going to be on your shutter streaming
service or something like that. There's going to be a certain pocket that people really like where
movies will go in and they'll find low maybe some lower budget things like that. There's probably
a lot of a lot of it out there. I don't know the bargain bin at CBS or whatever has a lot of those
those kind of things. Even a movie that I came up with Brandon with our text chain with large
Polterheist, a ghost heist movie. It's already taken somebody already did it.
I know. Well, they didn't do it well, so we just sold. So we got to do it. So don't take my idea,
folks, but I'm going to put Polterheist out there and it's going to happen one day.
Real quick, I mean, I just pulled up some of the most successful horror movies the last couple
years. And I guess I take back a little bit of maybe this could be successful if it was released
today because I mean, currently in the theater right now is Terrifier three. Oh my God, that's
a good comp. Yeah. And that it's whole stick is being so gross that people throw it like you hear
articles like that's that's kind of the whole thing about it is people are probably going to see
that movie because they read articles of people throwing up, you know, within, you know, the
beginning of the movie and people walking out because it's so disgusting. So I haven't seen
those. I don't know if you have maybe watched a little of Terrifier two and yeah, it's just like
it's just graphic and the pacing, though, I don't know. There's something about the iron and I
didn't watch much of it, but there was a little bit more of like I could breathe a little bit
between things, you know, and this movie was just that yeah, very of its time within the editing
and like you're saying the color correction and and all of that stuff that I don't know how it
would hold up today and I don't know if it would be made the same way. But I guess there's a version
that you're very right where there's a version of that type of thing that is is being pedaled
today that has its audience. So which is not yeah, then maybe I just come to terms with it's just
not for me the sort of thing. And I think that's not the first time on this podcast in a polarized
movie or it's like, oh, it's just not not for me, I guess, because it's clearly for these sickos. But
I get I get being a sicko. I'm a sicko in my head. I mean, also too, I think
this movie wants to try to achieve what the evil dead stuff does really well, which is
it's do like those I like those. Yeah, like great camp room. Be pretty graphic.
And also have like, yeah, camp and humor to it.
Great, because this is made by somebody who finds enjoyment out of these practical effects on this
and grossness and the gore stuff, you know, obviously, because that's trying to be communicated
pretty clearly in this movie. But again, the reason that the evil dead movies are so successful
in comparison is because the characters that are getting these are all of these bad things are
happening to them, you sympathize with them, you clearly understand like you have a hero,
like there's a hero. Yeah, you're right, you're you're rooting for somebody. And yeah, there's no
wonder for this movie. There's a point. Yeah. And there's an escalation of going down below in the
book and and and it is a it's a vignette sort of thing where things things kind of it's a house
of horrors and things kind of gradually happen. But I think I just yeah, I need to be able to
digest it better. And this is everything thrown on the plate at once. And it's too much so much
so that it that it just turns it's like every color just turns black or ugly brown instead
of like a nice nice image. I'll do one more from the Brian s s espadilla. Five stars feels like
the work of someone who wasn't sure they'd ever get the chance to make another movie again and
threw everything into it. Sylasically deranged insane debut seeing that split diopter shot on
the big screen did something for to me. It's a diopter. I guess I would be the technical term
of like the the it split into two visuals in the same frame. Yeah, she's like seeing and
you get that's like the center and it's a mirror. I guess yeah, I say the split screen is pointless,
but I guess like in that scene, a scene of like a shot of her and then a shot of the reaction
in the same shot that to what end? I think this is just not not for me this movie and I the polarizing
nature of it sounds like yeah, horror fans are an interesting group like the really die hard ones
that could throw something on like this and like, you know, to fall asleep to or something or like
they just it's just a they enjoy yeah, like you said, maybe the practical side of it, the style of
it all. And that is strangely comforting to them or something and I've gone back and tried to watch
a little bit more like campy horror movies and things like that and I I have fun with them. I
get that I get the idea of it, but this one is just so purely upsetting and not a lot of joy to be had
and nothing to glob onto for me and that was that was difficult for me. But should I just give my
score as well? Yeah, go for it. Yeah, I'm trying to think any any other any other final thoughts.
I think overall it's just not it's just not doing anything. It just didn't do anything for me and
it actually yeah, made me upset and grossed out and disgusted. And it was it was making me wonder
if I was like too hard on other movies in our past catalog of polarizing movies. But it's difficult
for me to come up with something redeeming about it and the attempt at doing a 70s style
cinematography and everything had flashes of cool stuff. There's some flashes of interesting
sets and the surgeon down below. I thought was a cool look and outfit if I just saw Rob's zombie
video or something about school if I was playing Elden Ring and that guy came out to fucking
battle me or Baldurs Gate three or some shit and I saw that surgeon guy and be like oh this is cool
cool fucking design. But anything good was just washed out with all the all the bad so
it's going to get a really bad score for me. I'll do a nine.
Do a nine. Yeah, nine percent. Yeah, nine percent really didn't do anything for me and I'm never
going to want to see what's just again. I mean if we if you want to do doubles rejects we can do
doubles rejects at some point. I'm not completely opposed to it. But we'll think what? Yeah, it's
just I wouldn't I'm interested. I wouldn't recommend it and I wouldn't watch it again.
And I would be curious to hear from someone who did really like it with what they liked about it
a little bit more in detail, I guess, just to maybe there's there's a other you know references and
other things that I don't understand. But that shouldn't matter. I should be able to walk into
the movie and decide if I enjoy it or not without having to see a bunch of other stuff in my opinion.
And that's my opinion. I'm sticking to it a nine percent baby.
Or I could do a 10 point oh oh house of 10 point oh oh corpses.
Oh wow. That's that's so fun. That's so fun. Okay. Yeah, this I mean it's
this is a discussion where I think I overall said my how I feel about it pretty clearly
throughout the whole discussion. I don't need to be labor the point. Yeah, this doesn't add anything
to the genre. It is somewhat respectable that it is interested in highlighting some of the
parts of previous movies that are yeah are interesting or are iconic or or you know
fundamental to the genre. But it's it's very hacky in the sense that it doesn't really add
anything more to it. And then just as an overall movie experience, I mean it's shitty people saying
shitty stuff to shitty like it's just no one is redeemable. No one is good. And it doesn't
necessarily need to have like good people, but it needs to have people who are more like
natural or who are just at least some more relatable, I guess, and the and this movie
it doesn't yeah doesn't do that at all. It just creates all it just is filled with all of these
extreme characters that
again could be okay. Yeah, I don't know. It's it's hard not to think about how this movie could be
better because there's so many things that it just doesn't get right or just doesn't like fully
commit to. And so it does just yeah kind of elicit the like see what you're doing here. And I see
where your influences lie, but you it's just there's nothing new being said here or there's nothing
interesting to latch on to. So yeah, I mean, overall, it's just washes over you and it's
forgettable too. I mean, you know what, I'm gonna fucking join I'm gonna get this a 9% to you man.
Let's do it. Hell yeah, single digit this motherfucker. Let's put this movie in a body bag.
Let's put it in the house of the 1000 corpses. Here's another corpse for your house.
Yeah, it's I don't think it should be remembered. I think it's got a pretty fucking cool name.
I think the name's kind of cool. I think the name is I think the name has like made me like
inch it made me curious about like I should watch that sometimes because that just that
sounds like it'd be a kind of a classic scary movie like House on Haunted Hill or I don't know like
a modern modern take of it or whatever but
um 13 ghosts, you know, we just had more more numbers in our in our titles too.
Well, that's that's been our our hot take on House of 1000 corpses to a movie that
has been or been around a while we just got to it and I think we'll leave it back in 2003 or
or whatever I think I think it belongs there and to all the people that love and enjoy it. I hope
you still continue to and hope our opinions didn't didn't change that because yeah, like don't want
to yuck anyone's young but this is just not for us guys over here. But we are not done with spooky
sorry not done with spooky season. We're going to fit in another one and it will be a little bit
more lighthearted. We will be doing for next time a little movie where's when is this movie from I
don't have the year in front of me. Oh 1998 practical magic with Sandra Bullock and Nicole
Kidman will be our next feature it is a very polarizing on round tomatoes. It carries a 25
percent from the critics they do not care for it. What was the House of 1000 corpses was 22 and this
is 25. So this is only 3% better than House of 1000 corpses according to critics which kind of
blows my mind but it is a 73% by the audience and we're going to check it out. It's going to be
which which a good time and we hope you join us. Should I do a little I'll do a little synopsis here
Sally and Gillian Gillian Gillian Owens born into a magical family have mostly avoided witchcraft
themselves but when Gillian's vicious boyfriend Jimmy Angeloff dies unexpectedly unexpectedly
the Owens sisters give themselves a crash course in hard magic with policeman Gary Hallett growing
suspicious the girls struggle to resurrect Angeloff and unwittingly inject his corpse with an evil
spirit that threatens to end their family line. Sandra Bullock, Nicole Kidman, Diane Weist,
Edyn Quinn love that guy, a very young Evan Rachel Wood. We're gonna have a good time hopefully.
Hopefully about a time than this one. I appreciate everybody sticking around for a discussion of
a lot of criticism towards the movie but I think it helped release a lot of pent up
anger and gross gross outedness from this movie so I'm glad I was able to have a little therapy
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