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Hello everyone, welcome to the Polarize Podcast. Another scintillating episode is coming at

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you. We're talking House of a Thousand Corpses, a Rob Zombie directorial debut. I am your host

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James. Welcome, welcome, welcome. Come on in. The scores for this movie is a 22% by the critics,

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a 65% by the audience. You know what that means, folks? It's polarizing. It's a polarizing movie

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according to Rotten Tomatoes. We talk about movies that are disagreed upon according to the

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audiences and critics on Rotten Tomatoes. Sometimes the critics love it. Sometimes the

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audiences hate it. This is the vice versa of that. The critics fucking hate it. And audiences

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have an affectation for this movie that is borderline cult classic. I don't know. I think

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there is a love for this movie. It is my first time I was counting those corpses. I was trying to

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get to a thousand, but I don't I don't think I got there. I hope you guys are ready for a twisted

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app coming from a couple twisted guys. I'm going to bring him in right now. He is the great brandini.

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Let's go. The grandmaster of spooky, spooky season. My guys, my guys and gals out there. That's

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right. We are in spooky, spooky season. This is the third year doing this to debut of our spooky

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season. Is it our third? I remember our first spooky season. Us talking. We were like, which was

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that part of our first thing. So yeah, and that was my first 100, I think. And I think I know

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now we're this is going to be a second. Who knows? But I remember it. Yeah, even the first year,

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us getting into spooky movies in general, I think we were both relatively novices. I had my

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my favorites like alien or the thing like my sci-fi horror that I liked a lot. But then getting

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into something like, yeah, like the witch was was obviously we loved it. And that was a that was a

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different sort of thing. But I say we've come a long way as a scary movie enthusiasts. I agree,

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man. Absolutely. Yeah, I'm glad that you brought it up because it was something I was thinking

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about, too. And I feel like I said this to somebody talking about what spooky movies people like.

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And yeah, I just the way that I front in my mind is I wasn't a horror guy really at all.

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I always kind of stayed away from them because by and large, I felt like first off, I wasn't

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really into being scared. And second off, a lot of movies that I think about when I think of horror

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like this movie, right, they're like really gory and gruesome and fucked up. And I don't,

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I mean, spoiler alerted, this is in my favorite type of movie, you know, not really much for the

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like, super gory stuff. And just in general, and some movies like this, I've stayed away from, but

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I've watched more of them. Again, yeah, it's not like I fully converted to like now I'm a, you

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know, classic horror gore fan, you know, not signing up for Fangoria. But shut it, I am really

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enjoying a lot like a larger breadth of different types of horror movies and really

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recognizing how like cool they are now being scared a little bit is a unique experience that

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yeah, I don't mind as much now. I don't mind getting scared.

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Yeah, I think we both like explored our tastes within the genre. And I feel like we've had open

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minds towards it. Also revisiting movies, I feel like as teenagers, where we were, I feel like we

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were first starting to be able to see some of those some scary movies, the movies that were

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coming out during our teenage years were movies like this. And we talked about it. I think that

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first year we did saw as well, we did a couple saws. And right, we did saw the first one in the

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most recent one at the time spiral from the book of saw a fucking subtitle that just went away. I

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don't know if they're ever going to pull that book open again. But like, talking about being shell open,

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open and shut. Oh yeah, she'll have that book. But I think that was a lot of what was around at

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the time was hostile and saw porn shit like this. What's up with that? That was so edgy. I don't

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know. It's funny because I just watched screen for three and four recently. And each one of those

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they kind of, of course, have that, I don't know, that moment at some point in the movie, maybe

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multiple times, but especially at the beginning where they're talking about the state of scary

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movies in a way. And there's a moment in those movies where they kind of call it out a bit of

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like, you know, oh, I don't like that torture porn stuff. I like the good like classic kind of

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scary movies, one of the characters says and that was interesting to see in a very meta sort of way.

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And of course, a screen movie being discussed about within within a scary movie. So it kind of

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put my mind at ease of like, oh, it's not just me. That's just like that was in all the fucking

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what's his face be or like cabin fever. What's what's that guy's name like green inferno? You

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hate you hate all those movies, I think, but he's like Tarantino's buddy. Oh, Eli Roth. Eli Roth.

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Yeah, like that kind of hostile. Yeah. I mean, I hear that Borderlands is the scariest one of all.

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It's you know, I know, scarily bad. Did you hear about Craig Mazan, the guy who like created

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Chernobyl and like the Delasov show and everything like wrote that movie and they bastardized it so

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much the script and everything that he requested that he like use a suit for writing credit.

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like, well, you have to just change it to this. And then yeah, I feel like I looked up an IMDB

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credit and yeah, it's just like this made up like, you know, in the profile picture and he's just got

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this, you know, made a person as one movie credit and it's borderlands.

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Yeah, I wonder what that name is. That's funny because yeah, Eli Roth is a good example of

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shit that I yeah, the hostile stuff. I'm just not really into Joe Cromby Joe Cromby. That does

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Joe Cromby. But yeah, like it is a subsection of horror though, because I remember growing up

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that there was always like people like it's like smart, right? Almost exactly. Yes. Yeah, like

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it's very like demonic, very violent and exploited. It is. Yeah, the very like triple X and C17

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shit. Like, yeah, I can't remember some of those like Seminole like movies like that.

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The cannibal Holocaust, I think it's called right now. It's like the big one that Eli Roth

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fucking loves that movie. You want to do like Green Inferno essentially to in these guys like

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want to do an ode to those exploit exploitation kind of scary movies and snuff. Yeah, snuff kind

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of movies. Yeah, snuff. Yeah, snuff smart. Snuff. Yeah, both yes and yes. And but yeah, those

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especially this one where and this is where my blind spots going to come into view. I have not

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seen I've seen bits and pieces of Texas Chainsaw Massacre, which feels weird to talk about this

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movie, not knowing that movie completely. But but still it's like I think you know,

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even though you haven't seen it, it's like it, right? There's so much of, you know, that

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yeah, I'm the same way. Sorry to cut you off. But yeah, exact same way of I haven't fully seen the

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original Texas Chainsaw Massacre. I remember watching once, I think like the like the 2005

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versus six or like somewhere around there, maybe there was an updated version of Texas

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Chainsaw Massacre. But nonetheless, like yeah, being really frightened by the idea of it,

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because everybody talks about how fucked up that movie is. And when somebody, yeah, I just

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have never been a moviegoer and a very huge fan and lover of movies. But whenever people describe

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the movie in a good light as being like it's really fucked up and twisted, I'm like,

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okay, all right. I mean, that's not really a selling point for me. But I don't it's it's so

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bizarre that type of I mean, I you know, King shame or like, yeah, somebody's young because

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like, as long as you're not genuinely hurting people, I guess if you're into gold, but it's

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just so weird in my mind to make that mental connection of like, what's that about? I mean,

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I've listened to some podcast talking like for horror fans. And I get to an extent that people

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who do like the really gory movies are really into special effects by and large. Yeah. And that's

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like the attraction to it is the idea of these practical things that are really kind of like

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and some of it's in this movie too. We can talk about it like the monsters, right?

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I'm being really, yeah, weird and visually, like artistically, I guess, like, creative,

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even though it's yeah, it's like, still fucked up. But yeah, I guess I get that.

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That's I mean, I know, I know at least because there's another thing of Texas Chainsaw Massacre

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that we do love Resident Evil seven biohazard where like, we know that there's references

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of like a fucked up family and you're trapped with them and everything. The difference I would say

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with with something like that, or a good version of something like that is the building of tension,

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I think is so important in a scary movie for me of like, you know, earning that earning the gore and

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earning the part where everything fucking kind of pops off and shit gets crazy. And if it's just

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like in your face the whole time and it's overcompensating trying to convince you that it is

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scary and that it is fucked up. That's where I just it just becomes I become numb in a way because

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there's no tension. There's no sort of build up towards the fuck the the murder or the gore and

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everything. And it's just it's just a part of every scene. It feels like so much so that it you

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just you just I kind of tune off to it. But something yeah, and it's a video game Resident

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Evil 7, but that is done in such a way where it's that yeah, and it puts you in the driver's seat.

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Totally. And the idea of this, like, and I would love to try to point this out as I go through

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critiquing this because there are parts of this movie where I could see a better movie in it.

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But to your point is and it's almost reminded me how I felt about like movies. I really don't like

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like cruel intentions, for example, is like everybody sucks. So it's like them die, like them

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getting fucked over or killed or whatever, you're like, don't really give a shit. And then so really

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to your point is like, they're overcompensating by like, you know, I can imagine Rob Zombie, for

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example, looking at this and going like, I'm giving you so much like for an action, essentially,

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for your ticket price. But again, yeah, I agree with you is like, we start this movie off to start

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getting into it with a cold open where it's shitty people meeting their demise. And that's

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pretty much the like the line of the sort of which I would argue how it's structured is the fucking

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monsters are the main characters of this movie. And in a maybe like a yeah, like a slasher sort of

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movie and like shitty teenagers or whatever that are, you know, like, oh, you get to watch them get

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picked off one by one or whatever. I get that sort of thing. But like, yeah, this starts with them

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doing, you know, like murdering somebody. And then Robert's so right, you know, yeah,

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there's interesting more moral stuff going on right off the rib. It's like, you're not like,

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okay, I'm just trying to think of what would be a good cold open is it's showing you like a cold

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open can show you mainly the invite like introducing to the environment or the like the world that

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you're entering. And it can be a side story that has a like a piece of what the main story is going

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to be. So you're starting to create a connection between the main story. But really the purpose I

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in my mind of a cold openness to like, put you in the setting to go like, you know, credits

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house of 1000 forbs to show them you're like, okay, all right, I'm in the space. And it does that.

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But it doesn't in a way where. Yeah, I don't know. Like again, it's just oh, okay, so robbers got

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killed by fucked up weirdos. Okay, all right. I mean, yeah, I guess that I mean, if I were to

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restructure it, the fucking cheerleaders man, like show show how the cheerleaders get abducted

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and how they get put in that position. I don't know because it goes back to them constantly

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throughout the movie and how they're introduced is like news footage or whatever newspaper and then

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in cops kind of slowly start to trickle in and everything. But yeah, I know if you want to establish

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them as scary, like I get that point of like a cold open of like this is the gasoline fried chicken

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place and of oddities and all that stuff like, okay. But the thing is like, there's there's barely a

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moment for what should be the main characters, the kids like kids. They call them that the whole

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time. That's why they're driving the girls dad. I don't know. It's like you guys are all yeah,

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yeah, like 30 year olds. Like, they don't establish jack shit with like who like,

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who's dating who and why are we on the road and where are we going on Halloween Eve and

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or anything. It's pretty much just like, hey, we're out of gas. Let's go there and they're in

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like it's just it's it's over already. And so I don't know whether you're supposed to hate or love

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the kids like the kids, like it doesn't even give you that it's just kind of more about the fucked

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up nature of these monstrous people. And you can see why and other his other movies that I haven't

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seen, which I guess there are part of like the trilogy of these characters like devil's rejects

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and three from hell or whatever. Yeah, like are the same character with those. I'm not that I'm

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not familiar with it, but I've just all I've seen is the poster. So Sid Hague and Rob Zombie's wife

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are back and then maybe there's like a new addition or something like that. Yeah, that's

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that's the extent of it. I think it's the the same universe or whatever. But I mean, there was a

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there was a period of time we've known each other since high school. Were you you kind of were

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listening to like Rob Zombie a little bit, right? Oh, yeah. Yeah. And it's like

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it's kind of like music for people who yeah, I don't know. Like it's and it's stereotypical to

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say it because honestly, metalheads are some of the most loving and caring people I've ever met

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life. But like they I don't know. There's there's a whole subculture that loves this kind of content

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where it's like very metal and sinister and satanic and whatnot. And it's very, you know,

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this gives the movie way too much credit. But to like try to sympathize with somebody who does like

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this stuff is it's so like fuck the rules a little bit or so like fuck, you know, society and all

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of that. I mean, God, it's such a, you know, representative in Sid Hague's character, where he

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just like tells people to go fuck themselves from the second he meets them. And it's like,

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what is it? It's like when he gets held up by gun.

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He always ends up with his feet like flip them off and stuff. And it's just like, wow, this guy's

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nice. Not so. He was kind of my favorite to watch actor or whatever, but continue on about

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Rob Zombie. Yeah, I agree. I agree. Yeah, it's not really him. That's the problem.

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But yeah, the I was into this music because I do like metal music and I did get pretty

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over Rob Zombie Rob Zombie pretty quickly because

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he for me is like, I really enjoyed metal music and he kind of is in that space of like

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industrial hillbilly, hillbilly rock with a little bit of a bus drill with rock ability a little bit

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rock ability stuff. Like it's kind of like a little bit of, I don't know. I want to say it's

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like almost got like a country like a little like twist to it and stuff, which isn't necessarily bad

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things, but it's just not my like when I want to listen to metal music. It's not necessarily the

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metal music that I want to like that I enjoy the most. But yeah, I did. I dug the vibe because

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I don't know. Like when you're especially when it came out, it's a time of like rebellion and

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there is an attraction to this like, oh, this is evil music almost, which again is like, I'm

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sympathizing with people who could like a movie like this or who this movie's for. But I think as

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we go on, it's just now where I sit in, you know, in 2024 and the age that I'm at is like, it's really

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hard to overlook how like in like last direction and it doesn't have really a bunch of original

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thoughts and the dialogue is pretty stupid and like some of the visual stuff I'm into,

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but it never commits to anything for too long. And so it ends up just being like

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so incredibly uneven and and again at a fundamental level, like you're talking like

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you've mentioned and I agree with you, it's like that is kind of my like standard for a good horror

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movie is this idea of like being well put into this into the place of the person that is being

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like chased after or who is in trouble. And then and if the movie does well to transport you into

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that person by creating a like a real person, which Rainn Wilson is the only person who's like

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kind of a real person who actually made like says real shit and then everybody else like it's wild

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like how unlikeable Chris Hardwick is and then really also to the two girls that he's

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that are telling nothing to do and the things that they do say are like.

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it's barely they barely say anything. They just like they're asleep like you bet you're

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sorry. They are asleep when they show up and they're like, hey, get out. We're going in at

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already zero agency just like I guess we're going into this fucking oddity place or whatever.

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And they just wake up and they go in and they just I can't think of a single line of dialogue

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that they have before the dance scene where one of them just and that's where I was like,

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oh, they are together. I didn't even realize I didn't like because I was I was trying to figure

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out like who's paired with who not that it matters too much. But if like things are going to get

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dangerous and you're going to watch out for each other, of course, friends are going to watch out

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for each other. But like, I was just wondering if there was like, yeah, we're going out to the

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we're going out to the cabin and we're going to double date whatever it just that the base level

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of who these people are is not established. And then you just yeah, I'm sorry made this point.

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But like them specifically, and to have and to have her be the last girl and everything,

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it's just there's and then have this thing with her father and all that stuff is just like

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it happened as it as it happened, it didn't get established first and then get a payoff

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or anything. It would just it would just happen. Absolutely. I mean, really, yeah,

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we are starved for in this movie needed conversation in the car with everybody being like,

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like, how close of a relationship are these people? You know, what it like? Why are they in

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the car together? Or not? I guess we know why they're in the car because they're writing stories

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about roadside attractions. But you need a little bit more of like, because because he's a

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journalist. And then are they traveling to her parents place because they're coming from New

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York, maybe, and they've been going across the US and like plans for Halloween. Yeah.

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Absolutely. I mean, there's it doesn't work in my mind. It doesn't require much for them to have

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had just in the movie, have a conversation being like, you know, our final stop is your dad's place

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for Halloween. And you know, we're we've been on this journey and kind of have more of a lived in

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like because it seems like they've been on the road for a while. And it yeah, we just needed so

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much more about who they are, what what the relationship is like. And it's just so jarring

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too, because of like Chris Hardwick makes this movie rough for me, because he's so

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cartoonish. Yeah. You know, from the jump, this idea of they're out of gas.

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And then they're rainwilson's like, how much gas did you put in the car? And he's like, I put in

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a couple bucks. He should have been able to look at the fuel gauge when they drove off until immediately.

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If that's a case, it's like a bitchy about it. I can't drive at night. I can't drive at night

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because I'm like, what? So fucking annoying. And then it does doesn't help that he like consistently

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is annoying about shit. Like giving the girls a hard time for not like kind of being awake or

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excited about what's going on at this roadside attraction. One thing that really I thought

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was just drove me nuts because like it happens in movies. But like if somebody did that real life,

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I'm like, God, I don't want to be this person's friend ever is when they're in the monster

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tunnel like exhibit or whatever at the rest stop. And there's part of the ride where I got

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that he's talking about some killer that like chops people up. And it's just like a shot of

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like this like mechanical robot chopping off off an arm. And then it cuts it cuts to Chris Hardwick

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climbs a little bit over the backseat and just goes, you're like,

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fuck you, you fucking suck ass. Like, oh, it just seems like somebody was like always

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trying so funny. That's what this guy's doing. And I'm just like, oh, it makes me so mad. And

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there's so much that he does that drove me nuts. Where it's like, it's that it's almost like dead

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cool. Like it's the way that he was acting where it's like nothing like I don't care about anything.

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It's all up in the air for jokes. And you know, I'm so cool. And so, you know, and I guess that

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it that is a stereotype for like, no, dude, please, I'm getting you thinking about it as well.

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Because it just I think that is a stereotype for bad scary movies specifically, you know,

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like for to have that the friend that's wisecracking friend or whatever. That's yeah, not taking

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things seriously. But also, I love how you put it where it's like, it's like somebody who's

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constantly trying to make a bit out of something and it's never fucking funny. And it gets so

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exhausting because they are constantly trying to be funny. But it's like, either at the expense of

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other people, or it's just the most obvious joke you can make that no one wants to say because

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it's so obvious and he's going to be the one to like do it in the most obnoxious way. Also,

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kind of hard to wait. Yeah, obnoxious is the thing because like, if we were in that situation,

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and you in the back saw that and you just said like a joke and it's like, you know, I don't know,

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only a flesh wound or like, I don't know, something stupid. And it's pretty obvious. But

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but it's like the thing that's so fucking annoying about a character like that is

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he's trying to be funny by making you like uncomfortable and like annoying you and like

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getting in your face about this like, look at me, look at me. And it's like, oh, and he's like

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outwardly horny and shit, which is just like uncouth. Bare minimum. Right. Why? And like,

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and yeah, so much of that stuff sucks ass for me because it's another person that we're never

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going to really be on their side, which is weird because like, don't you want that as a movie,

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especially because they put him through the ringer, you know, and they really put everybody

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through the right. No, Hardwick especially. Hardwick especially. And it's weird to not want to

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make a point in the beginning to make these people more likeable or more enjoyable. So then

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they're demise and their punishment. And it's so much of like, oh, fuck, like I'm really afraid

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for this person. But like, I mean, right off the bat, you're like, I couldn't give a fuck less.

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What happens to somebody like Chris Hardwick or his girlfriend? I think one of them was like,

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really just like the one that at the dinner that once they get to the family, she just like calls

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her a bitch and like cancer shit and like gets in her face about it. And it's another another

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god damn example of like, if you were in that situation and you were at somebody else's place,

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and especially when it's as fucking freaky as it is, are you going to like be antagonistic to

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that person? No, you're going to be like, uh huh. Yeah, that sounds great. Okay, get the fuck out of

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here. No, they like show the scary dinner scene. And it's like, you should be uncomfortable. This

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is probably a point where like, I don't know, maybe we should hit the road again. And said Chris

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Hardwick's like, I'm playing with my mask and having fun. Oh, this is so weird. And yeah,

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it makes so much sense that the other two movies are about the fucking monsters because that's

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I've already said it, but like that's where that's where the focus is. It's not about them. It's about

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the fucking evil people and and and what they're up to, which we know that right and better. I

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think so. I think doubles rejects is the highest of Rob Zombie's. Oh, yeah, I think. Yeah, it's

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it's poor rising to be able to fit in three movies this month. Maybe we do doubles rejects.

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Oh my God. I mean, yeah, if you guys ever get the chance on maybe we can do it later on this

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podcast, but he did a remake movie of the monsters and just which is in this movie. Just the

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trailer it is in this movie. You can see where he loves it. But just the trailer alone is

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wow, it is. It looks like so, so, so bad in such a way that like you just it's just confusion when

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when I watch it, not like laugh at it so bad, not like it was so bad, but just like confuse us to

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how the fuck does this exist? How the fuck did he get? I guess monsters maybe is like public domain

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now because how the fuck did he get that? I mean, it could be because it's very, very old, right?

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It came out in what 50s, which sorry for anybody who still you're you're thriving. I'm sure you're

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not old. I'm sorry. Hey, Rob, Rob Zombie made a monsters movie in 2022. There's still some monsters,

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monsters fans out there. I mean, I grew up on the monster. It's like, oh yeah, make a nice family.

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We can. Baby, we've talked about where, you know, children of that generation where there was a

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Nick and Knight channel and that's how we watched I Love Lucy, how we watched the witch, which I

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just sharing my genie. What else is happy days and happy days? Watch a lot of Brady

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Munch. All of those shows. And yeah, and even in this movie to talk about the monster like little

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that was that's on the TV. And you get like we get some great shots of just watching the episode.

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And yeah, grandpa is yelling yelling all the time. But they're doing a drag race competition. And

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the like Frankenstein's monster character. I can remember what he what his name is like

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Herman. Herman is like the pit crew. He's like the drag car. And so I'm like, I could have driven

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that way faster. Yeah, he's like, shut up. You're missing the. You're missing the goddamn point.

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How this movie looks because I think yeah, you mentioned that earlier. I think that's like

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an interesting way to get in because I can see why like looking at Rob Zombie's IMDB before

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his directorial debut, he directed a lot of his music videos into Nazi Osborne music video. And

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I could totally see why where there's like flashes of like an interesting look or or

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composure of something. But it's just flashes, man, because everything else is so fucking messy and

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ugly. And I'm sure he purposely made a lot of this movie ugly. This movie is ugly. But the way

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that he chose to instill the 70s graininess into it, along with like the saturation, like

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there's a there's no limit to it that I see what he was going for. And there's moments where it

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works well, even like I don't need the opening shot of showing the neon sign and going down.

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I was like killer cam. Yeah. Well, just like there was they use some sort of crane or something

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because it started on the sign and then lower down into the the gas station or whatever. And I

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was like, oh, OK, a little little crane shot or whatever. And when they go into the when she

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goes at the end into the big bone sculpture, I was like, wow, that looks that looks cool. And

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yeah, it's like it's kind of shot from like a lower level. So it's like her it's almost below

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her waist. And yeah, you get to see that, you know, insane room, which yeah, that the what that

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represents all that is wild. Yeah, but I mean, a lot of the other of the other stuff. Yes,

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amateurish in a way that's supposed he wants it to be that way. And I guess a lot of the stuff

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that I particularly did just fucking hate, but was the interstitial stuff of just random bullshit

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of like, oh, we're going on the next scene. But before we do, we're going to show random shots of

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of his wife dancing or or just shots of like driving through the fields or weird old signs and

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you know, along the roadside or a guy with like, like with a shotgun, God is coming.

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Whatever. And we're in hell. Yeah, we are in hell. Yeah. But like, I guess the movie was already made.

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He invited his friends over to his place and just shot with like a little video like handcam or

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whatever, all this random bullshit and just threw it in to edit around. And that is the kind of stuff

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that is so overcompensatory, like it's overcompensating so much in a way that's like,

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you're not confident that things can just exist on its own. You got a fucking pump bit full of

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twisted upsetting stuff. And it made me dizzy at sometimes with how like crazy the handicap was.

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And even like the cops at like, they're driving around at some point near the end and they're

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just driving down the road and it's just doing all this crazy fucking shit that editing choices that

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were I could see working in like a music video. Very contemporary. It's a lot of fast editing.

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It's a lot of woe was very popular at the time. But that's not good. You don't want a bad natural

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and killer is kind of for sure. I agree. Yeah, because like.

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I feel like the intent of a lot of that stuff is to.

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Make it seem like these old horror movies, you know, and purposely look like these old horror

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movies, but it's almost like it just puts a filter on it and it isn't the cameras in position well,

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or it isn't actually shot on like a film that would that's actually what you want. You know,

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you're just taking like more of a digital camera approach and then just putting a filter on it

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and being like, oh, you know, this is like those old. This is like, you know, House on the Left or

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Texas Chainsaw Massacre. And it just looks like dog shit. Also, too, that I want to bring up that

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infrared shit that could see us. Remember that? Remember that? That was it. Yeah. The cops are

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driving around and it shows like a fucking negative infrared. Like of just them driving around. It's

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like, why? Why? Who cares? And even a shot that I was like, oh, this looks kind of cool. But then I

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realized, oh, like, yeah, it's just so amateurish when Walton Goggins gets executed that slow crane

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up. Oh my God. And it stops. I was I thought I thought I paused the thing is like, I don't think

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it's only stops, which is what like I was like, oh, this is kind of cool. And then it like it

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does look like it stops. But I think it's still kind of moving a little bit. And then and then the

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guy who has a gun is being told off camera like, okay, shoot now. And he wasn't told to shoot now

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because they're like, we can go a little bit higher, a little bit. Okay, now the tension we're

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building. Yeah, it was almost good. I was like, you got if you guys just cut somehow made that five

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seconds shorter and have him shoot or something. But that's where it just felt like, oh, we can get

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this cool crane shot. And then it made how long it lasted. It made me realize like, oh, he just did

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this for the shot rather than being like in the mode in the movie and everything. But yeah, I think

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I mean, the looks and everything, it's an it's an ugly movie throughout everything. And yeah,

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like I said, there's just those flashes of the color, you know, calling back to a 70s sort of

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saturation, which there's elements where I kind of almost like it kind of almost like it as the

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best I can say. But as far as like, yeah. Yeah, but again, it's like, it's one of those things that

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was really prevalent in this time of filmmaking, that is a big no no because hopefully we've learned

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that it looks like shit. And the why of it is wrong in my mind. We've talked about this like

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an example is like movies like swordfish or whatever. Oh my God. Or just just generally,

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these filmmakers grew up on the gritty 70s films. So there are these guys that are making these

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movies in the early 2000s are huge 70s film buffs. But time and time again, they do the color

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correction and saturation to make it look like a 70s. But it is not framed like a 70s movie.

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It's not Sean. It's not Sean on film. It's like, again, it's your it's a typical digital

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filmmaking perspective of everything's like really clear. It's pretty close up on the action. And then

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they just put a filter on it, essentially, but a real 70s movie. A lot of times it's like really

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far back. You get like it's, you know, it's more of a widescreen. And it's just and it's got and

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it's more about natural colors and the over saturation makes everything unnatural, which is

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that's the sin of it all in my mind is like, you're not paying a good homage to these 70s films just

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by color correcting it to make it look like this because there's no way to unnaturally, at least

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at this time, maybe there it is now. But you know, because like I would assume

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like the holdovers Thomas Paine's movie. That's a great example of something done well on that

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style. Yeah, that's very difficult to do to make it actually feel like that because definitely

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people want that sort of feeling, but it's yeah, it's definitely not done well in a lot of times.

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Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah. And it's and it's so funny because like

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these guys again, really love the these 70s 70s movies and whatnot. And it's weird to think that

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they feel like they're paying a good homage by doing this kind of bullshit, where you're just

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nonsensically putting in things with that are heavily filtered and you're just like adding

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stuff in in ways that like are more avant garde, but they're just like kind of bringing like phase

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to a halt and like not really moving things along like, yeah, it really feels like a haunted house,

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you're just going through the haunted house like scary this scary that but there's no nothing

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holding anything together. It's just you're going along for the ride and just shown scary things.

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Absolutely. And and like she like like she could do like with like, you know, I feel

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populated. I guess I'm scared. I don't know. Look at it.

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I think you brought up that. Yeah. It's really good to just kind of reiterate of how much this

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movie is influenced by him coming from making music videos because like just what you said with

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the Walter Goggins, like when he dies, it was really kind of dumb to me. But I but a very music video

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is a lot of that like gunpoint tension and cops getting killed was all with music over it. And

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people were actually like saying words, which couldn't hear them. And there was just music

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playing over it. And then it's got that phonetic editing where it's like, you know, with the music

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kind of cutting through into the house back outside of the house and all of this shit. And it's

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it really takes the like wind out of the sails of, you know, the first cop getting murdered and the

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standoff and the potential like overall battle between those two. Like, I mean, also to the

376
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battle is very quick. It's like, Nope, you're dead. Nope, you're dead. Nope, you're dead. And

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okay, great. So everybody's dead. And I hate the song choices here. It's like, it's just always in

378
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the song. Oh, isn't this so contradictory? Isn't this so, you know, we're playing a brick house

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over a fucking torture scene, you know, it's like I watch Clockwork Orange and I can do the same

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thing. But it's just it, it's, it doesn't, it just doesn't mean anything. It just there's no,

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there's no meaning behind it. And that yeah, that music video style style, like in the haunted

382
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housing, it just really feels like vignettes of horror surrounded by this, this family and

383
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even like this, yeah, like, transferring from Sid Hague's character in the clown and the oddity

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shop to going to the tree and even picking up that's as I think his wife that gets picked

385
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over one of the one of the ladies that gets picked up. And the and the combination of

386
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read just is so disparate in those moments as well. It doesn't it doesn't really like

387
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tie everything together. And like they sit down to watch this show. Yeah. And Chris Hardwick is

388
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like, Yay, oh, wow, this is great. And I yeah, but then it sucks. And I mean, it's also really

389
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it's I mean, it's not a. How do I frame this because like, I was gonna say it's not a fun

390
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performance, almost like from like a physiological sense because the way the show starts is

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the the grandpa just helps over and over again. And Hardwick is just losing his mind, like even

392
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says this guy is so funny. And like, he's just screaming pussy with like porridge coming out of

393
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his mouth. And it's no fucking lame and and just not funny, not funny. Well, yeah, it's like I

394
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he looks at it like in my mind, a reaction is good, whether people are grossed out or

395
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italy did. And I think in his mind, people are kind of titillated by some of this shit is like

396
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what he's kind of going for is like, there's horror, there's grotesque things. It's just

397
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white fit and like a G string. I mean, crazy, right? Yeah. I just don't that sexual violence

398
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is something that I don't understand the the way that it's framed in this. And I said, I guess

399
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like the snuff and the exploitation of it all. But I just there's that's something that will never

400
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I'll never get on board for and I'll never that'll never speak to me. And that's not ever something

401
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in a movie that I feel like I'll want to seek out unless it's like really, truly trying to upset

402
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you. But when it gets to those points, let's flip on a fun brick house or some other thing. And like

403
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like people are going to laugh at this or when he sees people watching it, if they're like,

404
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ew, gross. Oh, it's like, oh, this horror movie is working really well because they're grossed out.

405
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And to me, that is not something I necessarily want to experience a lot during a movie. Maybe

406
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certain points in a horror movie, it gets to that like, ooh, ooh, ooh. But seeing a guy eating

407
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eating through prosthetics, Agatha Krispies, which look like fucking out of a dog bowl and

408
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everything and have it last so long and have him just like very like misery, right?

409
00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:38,040
Yeah, I guess he's she's tied up and but it's not a good version of it. It's just a.

410
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I love that actor, though. The big guy. Yeah, he's a big fish.

411
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Big fish. What? That guy. He's a little weird. Because he's got the mask and all the prosthetics,

412
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but I'm like, I know this guy. He's he seemed like a really wonderful human being.

413
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He's probably the sweetest man ever. I bet he's got that gentle giant. Like even as like a fucked

414
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up weirdo, he still has that energy of like, oh, well, I mean, he's just like, it's not his fault.

415
00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:14,280
Yeah, he's he's just he's simple. It's just a product of the circumstance. Yeah. Yeah,

416
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totally. Everybody else is the problem. I mean, but pretty much down the line of the

417
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INDB when I would click on people's names like known for House of the Thousand Corpses, like

418
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they a lot of people didn't do other stuff besides like Walton Goggins. The grandpa was like an old

419
00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:32,840
actor that's been in a bunch of stuff. And yeah, I guess a few here and there. It's cool to see

420
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if someone like Walton Goggins making a career past this because that guy is the fucking best.

421
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Yes. Hmm. He really is. Yeah, it's it's fascinating to think about. Yeah, this movie 2005, him being

422
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in a and then really we've just seen such a dog and Renaissance happening over the last like five,

423
00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:55,400
not too long, right? I would say like, I think people really started like Jango and hateful

424
00:44:55,400 --> 00:45:01,480
aid, I feel like we're some of them, some of the big ones. Yes, it's like that. People start to take

425
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notice, but I want to I feel like really people started to notice. Yeah, right after this first

426
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TV stuff, you know, like that's where he I don't know. Right. Just gemstones, I think got got

427
00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:20,840
another season coming season four. So it's funny. It's funny. It's funny. What's funny in this movie,

428
00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:24,120
Brandon? Is there anything that's that's funny? I'm trying to think if I had a laugh,

429
00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:31,960
have a laugh, do you have a laugh? Yeah, the off. I mean, we got rain Wilson. We got rain Wilson.

430
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I don't know who else is funny. Hardwick is not there's not a moment that I laugh with him. I

431
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guess it's just like Sid Hague with the middle finger thing was kind of a funny like visual

432
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thing and just him like snorting when he was laughing in front of the pigs and he just happened to

433
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wear like his pig shirt or whatever. Yeah, no, he's talking to pigs. He has like this shirt with

434
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like a picture of a pig on it and I was like, oh, real, real, you know, subtle there. But yeah,

435
00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:05,720
this is I think there's a movie is supposed to be darkly humorous in some way. It doesn't I'm just

436
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yeah, we're going through the list of like all the things that it it fails on and I was trying to

437
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:16,440
think of like any sort of like silver lining about this movie, but it's just it was so upsetting.

438
00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:27,480
Yeah, I mean, I think to speak positively about it, I am interested when I zoom out enough of the

439
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:36,040
concept that there is a person working the streets that brings people into the house and then the

440
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house is actually one level and then the house is actually working for a lower level. And it's like

441
00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:53,080
and each one is more intense evil. I found that to be interesting because I think it's

442
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it's relatively successful in communicating that the drama and the and the and the

443
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of the Dr. Satan is like seeping from underground and affecting the people on top. And then that is

444
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like, you know, facilitating this whole network of evil that is operating under like capturing

445
00:47:21,240 --> 00:47:26,440
people who stop at the gas station and then are lured into the house, which then those people

446
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are dropped into the well or to the hold and then said to Dr. Satan, I mean, for a movie that's not

447
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bad, I like I know I hate a lot of times I don't like exposition dumps. But if there was one,

448
00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:43,400
that just how you explained it there, I think that might have put it together a little bit more

449
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for me. I like now that I think about it, I put those things together in my mind in the same way

450
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I was kind of complaining earlier about the women being so separate from the oddity shop and

451
00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:58,680
everything and then how it does escalate at the end. I think I was just so over it by that time.

452
00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:04,040
But I thought going into the yeah, that's the big skull sculpture. And then I thought the doc,

453
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the doctor, the guy that was like working on Dr. Satan, maybe I don't know.

454
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I thought he looked pretty fucking cool. Yeah, I was like got these like needle hands.

455
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And I was like, this guy is fucking gross. I like that. Okay. But kind of madman almost to

456
00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:26,440
almost to the point you were you didn't fully make what you were alluding to at least the way that I

457
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interpreted what you said is like we were shown what Dr. Satan looked like in the monster tunnel

458
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at the gas station. And so we are introduced to what he looks like. Then when we finally get there,

459
00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:49,400
there's almost like two Dr. Satan. There's the Dr. Satan that's the actual Dr. Needler. But then

460
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there's the monster that honestly looks more like what we originally said. It was kind of like

461
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which one's Dr. Satan? Yeah, because even at the end when he's like, I'll bring you to the

462
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doctor and then she wakes up and she's looking at both of them, I feel like she's looking at the

463
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surgeon and then she sees the eyes or whatever. You know, like he's out of the bruise, right?

464
00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:17,960
There he goes like that. That was one of the vocal reactions I had on the movie. Like, come on.

465
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Oh, come on. I was eating breakfast. Like I said, I watched this in the morning and I stopped eating.

466
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I was like, oh, okay, because I had like half a bagel left. And I was like, I don't want this.

467
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That was one of my least favorite editing choices during that moment too when they have when he's

468
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about to swing the axe and then the edit just goes like back and forth to them really quick. It's

469
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and then he hits the thing and he like caves in on him. But that kind of stuff was just yeah,

470
00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:51,480
it's so overdone and underdone at the same time. It's it's so weird. It's the setting is great for

471
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a horror movie, right? I was kind of pressed. Yeah. And there's like, you see the thousand corpses,

472
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right? Because like, and it's also a slow roll, which wasn't was pretty interesting. It's like,

473
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you know, the girl escapes and runs to the graveyard. And then it's like a fuckload of crosses,

474
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like a bunch of graves, right? And then you go underneath the ground and then it's nothing but

475
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skulls and emphasizes skulls. And then you get to this weird rec room that monsters are watching

476
00:50:20,600 --> 00:50:30,680
TV eating food. Wait a minute. So is it the like a recovery room? Like, okay. So when he

477
00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:39,000
like lobotomizes you, you get to eat cereal and you get to eat cereal and then he actually kind of

478
00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:44,280
like stumbles into the room and then everybody's like, wait a minute, you're not supposed to be here.

479
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And then it goes over to the actual monster. Whoa, that guy is fucking creepy as hell.

480
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And Chris Hardwood just gets a milksman. Like he like he gets half scout and then he gets

481
00:50:57,160 --> 00:51:02,840
a full scalp at that point. And yeah, it just hangs around the movie, just not speaking or

482
00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:08,440
anything, but just there. And yeah, and even opening up to the yeah, what in Goggins opens up to the

483
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cheerleaders. And like you kind of get a little glimpse of what happened there. The father gets

484
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shot. And I thought like, one of the scare, like, that wasn't just gross, but like, oh, it's creepy.

485
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And it could be done better, but it's still creepy of like, and it's gross as well. But when

486
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he puts on the father's face and the body and everything like, and then is free. Yeah,

487
00:51:33,160 --> 00:51:39,000
like give us a kiss and all that stuff. I was like, this is an idea that is fucked up and could kind

488
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of work on me a little bit too. And maybe a better movie. But I and I'm sure that's called back to

489
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to change the face and everything. You know, yeah, like it's I love that point of yes, that is

490
00:51:53,320 --> 00:52:03,160
that is interesting. This idea of. Doing this to these cheerleaders and to these kids because of

491
00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:10,600
maybe they're motivated by them, you know, being freaks of being outcast and being weirdos and like

492
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kind of the driving force behind their like need to mutilate them and turn them into the pieces of

493
00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:25,880
art was also kind of this three like very like mentioned, but never fully fleshed out this idea

494
00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:31,480
of like he needed to be inspired to turn these corpses into artwork and stuff. The rain will

495
00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:36,120
send a thing. I like that idea of like making them a part of the oddity shop, you know, you could

496
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have gone a little bit further with that. But the fishboy thing, that was pretty effective.

497
00:52:40,120 --> 00:52:43,800
Oh, yeah, that was disgusting. I really freaked out. I would say that was honestly one of the

498
00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:48,760
more scarier things. And that's honestly what we've been talking about this whole time is the

499
00:52:48,760 --> 00:52:53,640
reason that it's fucking scary is because that was the only person in this whole movie we were

500
00:52:53,640 --> 00:53:00,760
like kind of like on board with. So when he gets mutilated and turned into this disgusting, like

501
00:53:00,760 --> 00:53:08,120
our corpse fixture, it really made me almost throw up. I was like really like, oh, no, fuck, this

502
00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:13,000
sucks. Yeah. And it's just a still like look at it like not like any action or anything. It's just

503
00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:18,200
like look at this, you know, look at what happened. And it's the practical effects of that are pretty

504
00:53:18,200 --> 00:53:23,240
good too. Yeah, I mean, it is funny, though, if you because it shows the whole like

505
00:53:25,640 --> 00:53:35,080
art installation. And it's clearly like rain Wilson in like half of his body is underneath

506
00:53:35,080 --> 00:53:40,760
the table and the top half is above it because it's like he's on a table that has like a drape

507
00:53:40,760 --> 00:53:47,560
in the front. It's like kind of like a high table. So it's like he clearly seems like oh,

508
00:53:47,560 --> 00:53:53,080
it's you know, it's him, you know, doing like a magic, you know, one of those magic tricks where

509
00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:57,080
happens to his body, it's underneath the table or whatever. Yeah, if I walked into a haunted house

510
00:53:57,080 --> 00:54:01,720
and I saw that just there, I'd be like, whoa, and then like, I started moving or something because

511
00:54:01,720 --> 00:54:06,680
it's you know, whatever. Yeah, he's not. Yeah, there's yeah, that's all it is. It's just like

512
00:54:06,680 --> 00:54:10,760
you walk through this scary haunted house and walk out and no substance. And that was pretty scary.

513
00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:18,440
And I just go on with my day. But I don't know. It's just so surface level in a way this movie.

514
00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:25,000
And when it's about to get a little deeper, it just kind of cruises right past it. And I don't

515
00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:31,080
know, I'm kind of nearing the end of my thoughts on this a little bit. Like is there any big stuff

516
00:54:31,080 --> 00:54:35,000
that we're kind of like leaving out? I check out my notes here a little bit. I really didn't take

517
00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:42,600
much notes. Yeah, I kind of let the movie happen. Yeah, I mean, it's it's not like I really needed

518
00:54:42,600 --> 00:54:53,800
notes to because I mean, it's not like it's a complicated story. And it's not like there's

519
00:54:55,640 --> 00:54:59,320
yeah, I don't know. I didn't yeah, again, there wasn't a lot of things that I was watching where

520
00:54:59,320 --> 00:55:05,480
I felt compelled to be like, oh, I need to write this down because this is like would be worth

521
00:55:05,480 --> 00:55:15,320
talking about. Right, dude, I know. I watched it. I got it. You know, we'll get into our overall

522
00:55:15,320 --> 00:55:19,400
feelings here. It sounds like soon. But yeah, it's like, I didn't I don't know. I didn't feel

523
00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:23,880
compelled at all to write anything. I watched the movie. It wasn't like I was really like

524
00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:29,640
second screening. I kind of I really watched the movie. I remember it because it just happened

525
00:55:29,640 --> 00:55:34,200
today. But yeah, I didn't I didn't feel compelled at all. There was enough batshit dialogue happening

526
00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:37,480
off like right off the bat that I was like, oh, the whole movie's going to be like this. I don't

527
00:55:37,480 --> 00:55:44,120
need to write every little crazy line down. One of them one of the I took very little notes. But

528
00:55:44,120 --> 00:55:49,000
one of the lines I did write was how long you've been running this place? How long is a piece of

529
00:55:49,000 --> 00:56:01,960
string was his response? Uh huh. Too long. Oh, that's the same. Okay. And then you know,

530
00:56:01,960 --> 00:56:06,520
what's funny too, to that point, it's like then the conversation continues and rain Wilson is just

531
00:56:06,520 --> 00:56:10,440
like a normal person explaining like, oh, we're writing about like oddities throughout America.

532
00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:14,920
You know, you you get what we're talking about, right? Like if you were to travel to another town,

533
00:56:14,920 --> 00:56:19,320
you might find something similar to this, right? And then he's like, huh? I know. What are you

534
00:56:19,320 --> 00:56:23,320
talking? I don't go anywhere. It's like, right. But if you did go somewhere, couldn't you imagine

535
00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:28,600
that this could, you know, people like you exist somewhere else? He's like, yeah, I wouldn't go

536
00:56:28,600 --> 00:56:35,400
anywhere. He's like, but if you did, if you ask one more dumb question, he's like, what's with

537
00:56:35,400 --> 00:56:41,320
all the shitty questions? Like, all right, well, fuck. Yeah, you're right. I'm sorry to bother you.

538
00:56:41,320 --> 00:56:47,640
Fuck. I'll just turn up this movie. It's like putting out in the world. It's like, okay, well,

539
00:56:47,640 --> 00:56:51,240
if you can't fucking beat me on my level, then fuck you. I'm out of here.

540
00:56:53,480 --> 00:57:00,840
How about how about that chicken? He had a shirt on that said if I wanted to listen to an asshole,

541
00:57:00,840 --> 00:57:09,960
I'd fart. I saw that shirt. I shut the giant guy. He had a shirt on her really late tonight.

542
00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:13,640
Again, I didn't write it down. I remembered it. And it just said, what did it say? It said,

543
00:57:13,640 --> 00:57:16,440
cheap Halloween costume. Cheap ass Halloween costume.

544
00:57:24,040 --> 00:57:27,560
That's I get the Krispies. I think I get the Krispies is my favorite though. Yeah.

545
00:57:29,560 --> 00:57:34,920
That's so, you know, you asked earlier, when did I laugh at this movie? I think all of the scenes

546
00:57:34,920 --> 00:57:42,840
involving Matthew McGrory, the big guy, this is funny. And the reason they were funny is because

547
00:57:42,840 --> 00:57:45,320
I don't know. Again, that gives off an energy of like,

548
00:57:49,320 --> 00:57:57,640
like when Sid Hague wears a shirt like that, clearly from jump, he's a sarcastic asshole who

549
00:57:57,640 --> 00:58:03,320
doesn't give a shit about anybody. So him wearing that shirt is like, oh, like it was it's almost

550
00:58:03,320 --> 00:58:11,560
like if you like you're like, I don't want to talk to that person, you know? But the big guy and

551
00:58:11,560 --> 00:58:17,640
his shirt, it's kind of, I don't know, it's it's he's never positioned as an asshole. If anything,

552
00:58:17,640 --> 00:58:21,960
they're like, he's a very like has a sweetheart. Like the mom says that. I know we haven't really

553
00:58:21,960 --> 00:58:26,360
talked about the mom, but I don't know if you really need to or Rob Zombie's wife. Because like,

554
00:58:26,360 --> 00:58:32,440
again, like, I don't, it's yeah. What do you need to say? It's like, it's honestly, the only thing

555
00:58:32,440 --> 00:58:36,920
I would say that always kind of made me uncomfortable is like, and maybe I'm being approved. I don't

556
00:58:36,920 --> 00:58:45,160
know. I had this like, this argument in my head about this is of like, sexualizing my wife on screen.

557
00:58:46,200 --> 00:58:52,120
You know, like making a point of like the camera looking at her ass and her wearing clothes and

558
00:58:52,120 --> 00:58:57,000
she like that. Cause like, there's two times in the movie where like, right when rain gets there,

559
00:58:57,000 --> 00:59:03,720
there's just a clear shot of a pants or like sliding down her butt. And then she like sits next to

560
00:59:03,720 --> 00:59:08,760
him. But the camera's like, look at this ass. And then she goes into that liquor store with

561
00:59:08,760 --> 00:59:16,360
what is it? Goober. And she's wearing like assless chaps. And then the camera's like,

562
00:59:16,360 --> 00:59:20,680
right, looking at her assless chaps as she walking in. And I don't know how you feel about this,

563
00:59:20,680 --> 00:59:27,800
but this idea of like, well, I mean, it's his wife. So if she's okay with it, then, you know,

564
00:59:27,800 --> 00:59:32,440
I don't know, I guess it's fine. But it's like, you feel like you're kind of a part of their kink

565
00:59:32,440 --> 00:59:41,080
or something. Like bringing you in. Yeah, this is good sexual for me sucked into this. But I mean,

566
00:59:41,080 --> 00:59:45,080
I guess if you're going to marry a guy like Rob Zombie, I guess you're going to be, you're going

567
00:59:45,080 --> 00:59:53,000
to be down to I wonder if she's in like some of his like music videos and stuff too. I bet because

568
00:59:53,000 --> 00:59:59,960
I mean, her like IMDB or whatever, she is a actress and a model, I think is usually how I

569
00:59:59,960 --> 01:00:05,560
saw it. I think it's really only acted in Rob Zombie's movies. I saw that she was in a brief

570
01:00:05,560 --> 01:00:09,400
stint of Californication brand. And I don't know if you remember, but I guess she was in a little

571
01:00:09,400 --> 01:00:15,800
bit, which I could kind of picture. But I think the thing that doesn't make me have a lot to say

572
01:00:15,800 --> 01:00:25,080
about them is that their beats as an actor, their wants and needs and how they portray it is the

573
01:00:25,080 --> 01:00:30,120
same throughout. And it gets really fucking boring when they're I get that they're, you know,

574
01:00:32,040 --> 01:00:38,040
crazy kind of cult members sort of sort of people. But they're just laughing and

575
01:00:38,040 --> 01:00:42,280
having a great time the whole way. Like if I don't know, just if there was like a different side of

576
01:00:42,280 --> 01:00:46,280
them, I saw it would have been a little bit more interesting, but they're just doing the same thing

577
01:00:46,280 --> 01:00:50,760
the whole time. And that kind of goes for all the characters. They're very flat characters that don't

578
01:00:51,240 --> 01:00:56,360
really offer a lot of depth. I know it's like maybe this isn't the movie that I should want

579
01:00:56,360 --> 01:01:01,320
something like that. No, no, they are every single character is kind of doing the same thing every

580
01:01:01,320 --> 01:01:09,560
thing, every scene. And that was boring and one note for for them as actors and for the the movie

581
01:01:09,560 --> 01:01:13,960
as well. I get that they all have the roles to fill within the family and everything. But

582
01:01:15,240 --> 01:01:21,960
I don't know that it just was like such a portrayal of like crazy or like such a

583
01:01:22,680 --> 01:01:26,840
such an obvious stereotypical sort of way. And there's some mention of the Manson.

584
01:01:26,840 --> 01:01:35,160
And it doesn't some some characters say like the the Manson is it girls or something or like kind

585
01:01:35,160 --> 01:01:40,040
of hot or something? Is that was that in this movie? That was yeah, that was hard. But

586
01:01:40,040 --> 01:01:45,160
Ralph fucking, of course, it is. So I don't know. It was it was really trying to elicit that a little

587
01:01:45,160 --> 01:01:51,720
bit. But that got old for me after a while, the little bit between the older cop and bringing

588
01:01:51,720 --> 01:01:57,400
him into the house is pretty good, I guess, about, you know, their chemistry and leading

589
01:01:57,400 --> 01:02:03,960
him in and everything. But it's just so brief. And there's just no ratcheting up of tension,

590
01:02:03,960 --> 01:02:08,520
as I said, and no living in a moment for as for an hour and a half movie and everything. There's

591
01:02:08,520 --> 01:02:12,760
any time there could be a brief moment they throw in all this fucking crazy editing and weird,

592
01:02:12,760 --> 01:02:17,160
you know, shots to to like think that they're jolting you awake or something. But it's like,

593
01:02:17,160 --> 01:02:23,400
no, motherfucker, like I'm I'm awake. I just saw, you know, I got the Krispies getting spilt out of

594
01:02:23,400 --> 01:02:31,080
a mouth. I saw like, you know, fucking how many fucking torture scenes and the who's and so the

595
01:02:31,080 --> 01:02:36,600
father is that like the father or whatever, like that's that's who he is, right? They call him daddy

596
01:02:36,600 --> 01:02:42,360
and he wears like the the mass or like the face and all that stuff. And he's kind of orchestrating

597
01:02:42,360 --> 01:02:49,320
everything. And then at the end, he's just laying in the back of the car. Oh, she doesn't.

598
01:02:50,440 --> 01:02:59,000
She's so you know, she's out of it. Yeah. Yeah, she's out of it. But it's like it's like it's

599
01:02:59,000 --> 01:03:04,840
also to like, yeah, it's it's such a corny bullshit, you know, where it's like, oh,

600
01:03:06,200 --> 01:03:12,120
it wants it's that it's the camp that it's trying to instill as well. And I get that it's the snuff

601
01:03:12,120 --> 01:03:17,480
and the exploitative sort of thing, but it's also trying to be very campy. And we've talked about

602
01:03:17,480 --> 01:03:23,560
this on this podcast before where it's just a contrived camp, like, and that's sometimes it

603
01:03:23,560 --> 01:03:29,560
works, sometimes it doesn't for the most part, it doesn't, because it's trying so hard to to be campy,

604
01:03:30,120 --> 01:03:36,440
when a lot of the best parts of a campy thing is when it's done sincerely, in a certain mode,

605
01:03:36,440 --> 01:03:41,480
and then the audience takes it and digests it and comes up with their own interpretation of it,

606
01:03:41,480 --> 01:03:46,040
which is like, I'm not laughing with you, I'm laughing at you. But if the person who's making

607
01:03:46,040 --> 01:03:51,160
the piece of art already is trying to instill that reaction in the audience, it's a very fine

608
01:03:51,160 --> 01:03:55,880
line to try to try to pull that off. And most of the time, I don't think it works. And I think

609
01:03:55,880 --> 01:04:04,040
there's a lot of things that try to elicit nostalgia as well, mixed with that camp, that

610
01:04:05,000 --> 01:04:11,160
is just so contrived. And I think for somebody who has never even seen all of

611
01:04:11,160 --> 01:04:17,000
Texas Chainsaw Massacre, you can just I can just feel it that he's trying to be something that

612
01:04:17,720 --> 01:04:22,120
is already happened. So why the fuck would I watch this movie? And why wouldn't I just watch

613
01:04:22,120 --> 01:04:28,120
Texas Chainsaw Massacre? I don't know. But this is a polarizing movie. And I yeah, there's a lot of

614
01:04:28,120 --> 01:04:34,840
the audience members that that do really like it. I'll take it. Yeah. I mean, I just yeah, to like

615
01:04:34,840 --> 01:04:40,280
speak on the polarization of it, like, you got to just assume that the fair amount of it is probably

616
01:04:40,280 --> 01:04:46,840
Rob Zombie fans just by and large, you know, showing up for Rob's and on me. And it's, you know,

617
01:04:46,840 --> 01:04:53,880
given Rob's whole vibe in his music videos and his music and his looks and all of this stuff is like.

618
01:04:55,800 --> 01:05:00,920
I mean, he's given people that like him probably exactly what they want is like, I don't know,

619
01:05:00,920 --> 01:05:07,560
fucked up practical visual effects and like, you know, guns and violence and sex and rock and roll,

620
01:05:07,560 --> 01:05:13,000
you know, that's fair. Yeah. Like he didn't come out of nowhere. He was Rob Zombie before he made

621
01:05:13,000 --> 01:05:18,200
this movie. I mean, it's like from Rob Zombie House of 1000 Corpses, like, you know, essentially a

622
01:05:18,200 --> 01:05:24,200
version of like, yeah, what you're what you're going to get. And people want to hold out. Right.

623
01:05:24,200 --> 01:05:30,040
Like, you know, he didn't. It's yeah, I don't know. You definitely don't get that sense that he's,

624
01:05:30,040 --> 01:05:38,040
you know, trying to be somebody he's not. So, you know what, that would be my my biggest. Yeah.

625
01:05:38,040 --> 01:05:44,840
Acculent to the movie. I really like Texas Chainsaw Massacre. I want to be like that and mix of my

626
01:05:44,840 --> 01:05:52,120
own stuff as well. A little. It's a half monsters, half Texas Chainsaw Massacre is that's his whole

627
01:05:52,120 --> 01:06:00,680
vibe. Oh, there was the when they're driving in the car when they first pick her up. She's like,

628
01:06:00,680 --> 01:06:06,520
oh, I love this song. Turn it up. And it is the most insane song I've ever heard in my life.

629
01:06:06,520 --> 01:06:15,160
And it's like the most lo-fi, like barely even can. It's like coming through AM radio on the

630
01:06:15,160 --> 01:06:18,120
shitty channel. And it's just a weird instrumental of like,

631
01:06:18,120 --> 01:06:33,320
I guess I kind of laughed at that a little bit. But yeah, Showtime. That was that was something

632
01:06:33,320 --> 01:06:38,520
where the grandpa said Showtime and I had that whole big Showtime title card.

633
01:06:40,680 --> 01:06:45,640
If there was less crazy editing and everything that would have hit harder to which is I keep on

634
01:06:45,640 --> 01:06:50,840
finding other ways to say it. But like, when you do all this other stuff, then you do find a moment

635
01:06:50,840 --> 01:06:54,360
to try to build tension. It doesn't work. Or if you do try to do something that like

636
01:06:55,080 --> 01:07:01,640
is original and unique and like, you know, if out of nowhere, that would have been kind of cool if

637
01:07:02,200 --> 01:07:06,200
that if I didn't expect something like that to happen. And there to be a big Showtime title

638
01:07:06,200 --> 01:07:11,880
card. I'm like, whoa, this is this is cool. Yeah, right. When it's mixed with all the other bullshit,

639
01:07:11,880 --> 01:07:18,760
it just doesn't do anything. Yeah. No, totally. Yeah. It's in the split screen. It just moved

640
01:07:18,760 --> 01:07:25,800
for the most part is pointless. Yeah, it comes off as it's just ineffective. It's contrived. It's

641
01:07:26,680 --> 01:07:32,200
so clearly wearing your inspirations on your sleeve and it's not really bringing enough of you

642
01:07:32,200 --> 01:07:38,280
and your own spin and invention to it. You're just like, here's a thing that I like. And here's a

643
01:07:38,280 --> 01:07:46,520
thing that I like. And it's just it would have it would be who have him to have more of a focus,

644
01:07:47,880 --> 01:07:55,640
more consistent mood and theming and like, aesthetical cohesion throughout and like more.

645
01:07:55,640 --> 01:07:59,480
Yeah, just getting a little bit more laser focused on stuff as opposed to just having this

646
01:07:59,480 --> 01:08:08,600
or, I don't know, yeah, very chaotic collage of influences that don't really have much to say

647
01:08:08,600 --> 01:08:15,800
other than what they've already said. And it's like, it's it's very cheap to me to do that to not

648
01:08:15,800 --> 01:08:24,040
really. The only intention is to go look out cool. This thing that existed was like, you need more.

649
01:08:24,040 --> 01:08:31,960
You know, it's like, yeah, yeah, it is cool. Okay. And like, and what about it? And having like,

650
01:08:32,680 --> 01:08:40,760
characters like they're like, just there's no, this is all artifice to be some, like,

651
01:08:40,760 --> 01:08:44,600
which very much as a music video to you don't need to worry about so much about characters

652
01:08:44,600 --> 01:08:49,400
and dialogue and everything. It's just all about the artifice and the visual nature of it and just

653
01:08:49,400 --> 01:08:59,080
nature of it and just pushing along a series of events. But he has no care for either fleshing

654
01:08:59,080 --> 01:09:04,440
out characters or having them be a be a part of it. They are just pawns in the game. They're all

655
01:09:04,440 --> 01:09:11,640
props to be used to create set pieces and scenes that he already has in his head. And it's just

656
01:09:11,640 --> 01:09:17,400
such a reverse engineered sort of thing of like, we need to get here and there doesn't really matter

657
01:09:17,400 --> 01:09:22,680
who or what it just is. We just want to have this happen. And

658
01:09:25,160 --> 01:09:30,840
why like, you need to care in some way, shape or form about the people in the movie. And

659
01:09:32,600 --> 01:09:43,080
you do. You do. Yeah. You know what? To me, it's, I am just okay, pretty like not

660
01:09:43,080 --> 01:09:49,560
deeply knowledgeable on like Rob's like a lot of wrong zombie stuff. But I've seen him in interviews

661
01:09:49,560 --> 01:09:56,520
like on Howard Stern and places like that. And he seems like such a like mild mannered,

662
01:09:56,520 --> 01:10:02,200
articulate, nice guy, you know, and it's, and it's like a classic situation of like all of this,

663
01:10:02,200 --> 01:10:13,880
all of this like, edgy, dramatic, sinister look is really just, it's almost like he's, it's playfulness.

664
01:10:14,680 --> 01:10:17,320
You know, having a sensibility of like,

665
01:10:20,600 --> 01:10:27,400
I don't, yeah, like this camp a little bit, right. And I honestly, yeah, I just, I wish there was

666
01:10:27,400 --> 01:10:35,160
more of that in this movie of, of sure characters could be grotesque looking and be sinister and

667
01:10:35,160 --> 01:10:45,880
objective, but they need more like interesting things to say and more, more motive or motivation

668
01:10:45,880 --> 01:10:51,320
conveyed to us so that we can just understand at least the depth of like, why we should give a

669
01:10:51,320 --> 01:10:59,560
shit about any of these people. And it really just doesn't care. It's so it's, it's real, it's a

670
01:10:59,560 --> 01:11:05,560
short movie. Like, yeah, it's crazy. Like, it's not that I want this movie to be longer, definitely

671
01:11:05,560 --> 01:11:12,760
not. But there's so much time spent on like we said, like, infrared car driving sequences and

672
01:11:12,760 --> 01:11:18,120
shit. It's like, get that shit out of there, remove some of this stuff of like somebody just

673
01:11:18,120 --> 01:11:24,040
yelling the same thing over and over and over again and fill this movie up with like more

674
01:11:24,040 --> 01:11:28,360
conversations with the family talking to each other. So you have a better dynamic of like,

675
01:11:28,360 --> 01:11:34,520
where everybody is power wise or like what each individual family members motivations are, or at

676
01:11:34,520 --> 01:11:40,280
least, you know, like, who have all of that. And it just this movie is starved for because

677
01:11:40,840 --> 01:11:45,480
it what's presented to us, at least the way that I feel about it is like, yeah, again,

678
01:11:45,480 --> 01:11:48,680
I mean, I feel like a broken record, but it's hard to give a shit about this movie that doesn't

679
01:11:48,680 --> 01:11:56,280
really like give a shit about me or give a shit about its characters. So that's, that's rough.

680
01:11:56,280 --> 01:12:02,040
I'm sorry. No, I feel like I'm about there's not much for else for me to say without sounding

681
01:12:02,040 --> 01:12:07,960
like a broken record to because you already know that things are going to be bad at the place.

682
01:12:07,960 --> 01:12:12,920
Like that's how the cold open started. And so when they arrive, it's a matter of when they

683
01:12:12,920 --> 01:12:20,120
are about to find out that things are wrong. And the point that they do and the point where

684
01:12:20,120 --> 01:12:25,720
things kick off is like, lame as well, they're driving away. And then Rain Wilson just gets

685
01:12:25,720 --> 01:12:32,360
like smat and like the ugliest dark that's like dark with a lame blue light. He just comes out

686
01:12:32,360 --> 01:12:36,840
of nowhere with his random fucking mask. And then the girls like, lock the doors, lock the doors.

687
01:12:36,840 --> 01:12:43,480
Get in the fucking driver's seat and drive away. Come on. Get participant.

688
01:12:43,480 --> 01:12:49,640
Oh, no, if we just close the doors. We've done we're caught. We're busted.

689
01:12:49,640 --> 01:12:53,800
And that was that was the moment things you're like, Oh my god, things aren't going to go on that.

690
01:12:53,800 --> 01:13:02,280
Yeah, from telegraph to there's just this movie lacked. I I don't think ever in this movie I was

691
01:13:02,280 --> 01:13:11,560
surprised or or rich, genuinely scared. I was unnerved, right? Like unsettled because of just

692
01:13:11,560 --> 01:13:20,360
a sheer grotesque images on the screen. But I never was like scared. I never really was like,

693
01:13:20,360 --> 01:13:27,320
Oh, what's going to happen? Like every fucking which way this movie just clearly telegraphs to you.

694
01:13:27,320 --> 01:13:32,680
What is going to happen? Like you're pointing with the the car driving scene already leading up to

695
01:13:32,680 --> 01:13:38,120
that. We've got it got introduced to the person who's telling them where to go as being a person

696
01:13:38,120 --> 01:13:43,720
who can easily kill somebody who like doesn't care about people. So it's just like, well, we obviously

697
01:13:43,720 --> 01:13:48,040
know he's sending them to a place they're going to get hurt. And then once they get there, it's like

698
01:13:48,040 --> 01:13:53,160
how convenient is that this girl is there and like you should go to my house that's house that's

699
01:13:53,160 --> 01:13:59,880
house that's right next to this tree. And it's like every step of the way you're not like,

700
01:14:00,920 --> 01:14:09,320
what's going to happen? Oh, man, I just I I have no idea what what I'm in for. Like I know exactly

701
01:14:09,320 --> 01:14:14,600
what I'm for. I wish I wasn't so done with the movie by the time it happened. But I was a little

702
01:14:14,600 --> 01:14:20,760
a little surprised to see like zombie guys coming out of the water. Yeah, we got lower down. They're

703
01:14:20,760 --> 01:14:24,120
going to get buried alive. Okay, that's pretty scary. But I was because he started throwing the

704
01:14:24,120 --> 01:14:29,080
dirt down and everything. And then he put this recorder down with a light. And I was like, what's

705
01:14:29,080 --> 01:14:33,560
that for? And I guess it was to bring all the people to life or whatever. And I was like,

706
01:14:34,280 --> 01:14:38,200
man, I really wish I was still invested because I just don't care anymore. But

707
01:14:39,240 --> 01:14:43,240
some of that stuff at the end had, yeah, the tunnel looked okay. And

708
01:14:44,360 --> 01:14:50,280
absolutely. Yeah, and the physical stuff. That's another thing too, right? It's like, I think both

709
01:14:50,280 --> 01:14:54,840
of us agree that the practical effects are not bad. It's not only things really looked

710
01:14:56,360 --> 01:15:00,200
interestingly and really, I mean, honestly, now I have to say like, this is a huge credit to the

711
01:15:00,200 --> 01:15:07,400
movie is none of the costuming or the practical effects were bad. There wasn't a time where I

712
01:15:07,400 --> 01:15:12,200
was like, ooh, that looks like shit. And there are plenty of times in movies like this, where you're

713
01:15:12,200 --> 01:15:19,240
clearly like, this looks like shit, you know, this looks like cheap. It isn't edited correctly,

714
01:15:19,240 --> 01:15:25,960
where you kind of like see too much or, you know, you see too little. And like it just, it does well.

715
01:15:26,680 --> 01:15:32,680
And it does thrive, which is a major objective of the major objective of this movie. And

716
01:15:33,800 --> 01:15:39,880
yeah, I mean, the set looked like fucking shit. And I'm in like all the fucking clutter of everything,

717
01:15:39,880 --> 01:15:44,280
like that was purposeful. And like, that's what he wanted to do, whether it's for me and whether I

718
01:15:44,280 --> 01:15:49,320
want to be in that space, you know, obviously it's a scary movie and there's yeah, you don't want to

719
01:15:49,320 --> 01:15:53,800
be there. Yeah, that's the whole point of it. But like, but it is. Yeah, it's like realized in a way.

720
01:15:53,800 --> 01:15:57,560
And when Walton Goggins is walking around being like, man, they need a yard sale and there's

721
01:15:57,560 --> 01:16:05,720
this fucking like stockings like Christmas stockings. Right when they get to the house,

722
01:16:05,720 --> 01:16:10,040
she's like, this is my wall where I took all the dolls heads off and post them to the wall.

723
01:16:10,040 --> 01:16:19,160
Oh, okay. You know what? We're gonna wait until I mean that the the input like more implications

724
01:16:19,160 --> 01:16:24,760
like opening a door and seeing a pile of shoes. Oh, that means something. You can see a pile of

725
01:16:24,760 --> 01:16:31,480
shoes and not have it be like, oh, yeah, you know, there's a lot of clutter. But then this this pile

726
01:16:31,480 --> 01:16:36,680
of clutter like actually means something. And I don't know, I love that those parts and scary

727
01:16:36,680 --> 01:16:42,280
movies where you can intuit the things yourself. And I wish, yeah, those I love how you describe

728
01:16:42,280 --> 01:16:46,760
the three levels of it all. And if there was a little bit more access in as the audience to

729
01:16:47,640 --> 01:16:52,600
get into the mystery of this place or whatever, but I don't want it to be overexplained either. So

730
01:16:52,600 --> 01:16:56,200
I don't know. And I just felt like I was in the hands of a fucking madman.

731
01:16:57,640 --> 01:17:02,600
He heard this whole ride and it was a quick one. But even then it was exhausting. And

732
01:17:02,600 --> 01:17:09,960
I it didn't do a lot for me this this whole thing. So that'll be where I leave it for now. And I would

733
01:17:09,960 --> 01:17:13,320
say we can take a look at some thoughts. You want to take a break or at all? Or should we keep on

734
01:17:13,320 --> 01:17:20,840
going? Let's take a quick bathroom break. And then let's get it. Okay, be right back.

735
01:17:20,840 --> 01:17:31,240
All right, we are back. House of 1000 Corpse is we are returning to our discussion. And

736
01:17:32,760 --> 01:17:36,280
actually, I think we're done with our discussion. I think we want to hear a little bit more from

737
01:17:36,280 --> 01:17:44,440
the critics and audiences online. Why we are here is because it is polarizing

738
01:17:44,440 --> 01:17:53,240
to these two camps of people. When did this movie come out again? 2003? Sounds about right.

739
01:17:53,720 --> 01:18:02,040
We were, yeah, 13 year old boys. Yeah, this should have hit well for edgy edgy edgy lords like us.

740
01:18:02,040 --> 01:18:08,120
But I didn't know that was that was not a lot. Yeah, couple of edgy lords. That's that. I mean,

741
01:18:08,120 --> 01:18:15,800
hot topic. I mean, that was a thing at the time. Let's check it out. Top critics from Rotten Tomatoes

742
01:18:16,920 --> 01:18:25,720
will go with Jamie Russell from BBC.com. A tour de farce of depressing inanity that's unable to

743
01:18:25,720 --> 01:18:33,240
do anything more than offer a messy incoherent pastiche of other better movies. Can't really,

744
01:18:33,240 --> 01:18:39,160
that kind of nailed it. That was a one out of five from them. Daniel Feinberg from LA Weekly.

745
01:18:39,160 --> 01:18:44,440
Zombie wants his film to be gleefully demented, but he fails to grasp that loud and bred evil

746
01:18:44,440 --> 01:18:49,320
people torturing stupid grading benign people isn't disturbing as much as tedious.

747
01:18:53,000 --> 01:18:59,720
Totally from Adam Naiman. I weekly, I haven't heard of this publication, but it's on tomato,

748
01:18:59,720 --> 01:19:05,080
so we got to read it. Zombies attempted postmodernism has neither the intelligence nor the conviction

749
01:19:05,080 --> 01:19:11,720
to work. He may fancy himself a genuine devil, but he comes off here as a poser of cheap and low order.

750
01:19:17,240 --> 01:19:22,520
Tim Cogs shell for box office magazine. If that even is a thing over the course of the film,

751
01:19:22,520 --> 01:19:27,320
many funny, gory and silly, but not particularly horrifying events occur.

752
01:19:27,320 --> 01:19:37,480
Not scary. Rick grown from globe and male grown is that sounds like one of the names you'd see

753
01:19:37,480 --> 01:19:45,080
at the beginning of a Treehouse of Horror episode. And this field of endeavor, any intense reaction

754
01:19:45,080 --> 01:19:50,280
is unsustainable for the obvious reason that the guiding principle of repetition comes with an

755
01:19:50,280 --> 01:20:00,360
inevitable, inevitable, corollary and unavoidable side effect. Sheer boredom. That's why I feel

756
01:20:00,360 --> 01:20:06,440
like I numb at a certain point. Everything you just wanted to go turn my mind off and go away.

757
01:20:09,000 --> 01:20:12,040
No, Lieberman entertainment. What's that? I don't want to be read.

758
01:20:12,040 --> 01:20:20,680
I want to see him in a scary movie. I just want to see more of him.

759
01:20:31,720 --> 01:20:34,920
I would have loved for him to just actually that might have fit in this movie.

760
01:20:34,920 --> 01:20:41,480
Yeah, totally. That's something hard to say. I want to believe her men from entertainment

761
01:20:41,480 --> 01:20:47,800
weekly. So I wish man, could you imagine instead of Chris Hardwick was oh my god.

762
01:20:48,520 --> 01:20:55,160
Oh, I would love that so much more. Yeah. Because anyway, yeah, just like it would be funny.

763
01:20:55,160 --> 01:21:00,600
Like, you know, his performance is very emblematic of the movie as well. It's just like that you

764
01:21:00,600 --> 01:21:04,040
could be deadpan a little bit with some of the jokes that you're making and all that stuff.

765
01:21:04,040 --> 01:21:10,600
But you're like, haha, look at how funny I am because I'm loud and and doing a lot of hand

766
01:21:10,600 --> 01:21:16,760
motions. Yeah, it's like, tone it down. Tone it down movie. Tone it down. Hardwick. No points

767
01:21:16,760 --> 01:21:22,680
for you. No points for a hardwick in this movie. Yes. Yeah. Owen Gleamerman said House of a Thousand

768
01:21:22,680 --> 01:21:29,400
Corpses isn't coherent exactly. But what dripping ghoul horror movie is these days speaks to the

769
01:21:29,400 --> 01:21:33,560
state of horror movies, I guess at that time and how critics felt about them.

770
01:21:35,080 --> 01:21:40,840
And we'll do one more from Scott Foundess from Variety, a cobwebbed mummified horror entry

771
01:21:40,840 --> 01:21:44,920
that makes obvious cartoonishly grotesque demands for attention.

772
01:21:48,200 --> 01:21:53,640
Just wants your attention so bad. Look at me. Look at it. Look at how fucked up it is.

773
01:21:55,000 --> 01:21:58,920
Let's check out some audience reviews from Letterbox. I've been enjoying the Letterbox

774
01:21:58,920 --> 01:22:03,160
reviews. All five stars here for the audience I'm going to be reading off of.

775
01:22:04,200 --> 01:22:06,040
Follow us on Letterbox too. What's that?

776
01:22:06,040 --> 01:22:08,680
Quick plug. Yeah. Follow us on Letterbox. Yeah.

777
01:22:08,680 --> 01:22:12,360
Sure. Yeah. What is my, do you know your Letterbox?

778
01:22:15,480 --> 01:22:18,680
I guess polarized. We can't really have one because we think differently about movies. But

779
01:22:19,480 --> 01:22:26,920
yeah, I'm disco volante disco volante VOL ANTI for the Volante.

780
01:22:26,920 --> 01:22:28,920
VOLANI.

781
01:22:30,280 --> 01:22:34,440
One of my more. I just changed my name. That's why I'm sorry. It's continued just a minute.

782
01:22:34,440 --> 01:22:38,840
But no, one of my recent entries was five stars for hundreds of beavers.

783
01:22:40,440 --> 01:22:43,640
Three and a half for sleeping with the enemy. Those are some of those are some of mine.

784
01:22:46,520 --> 01:22:48,280
I mean, I just did some reviews as well.

785
01:22:49,080 --> 01:22:53,960
Yeah. Oh, I can pull you up. I am. I am the great brandini.

786
01:22:53,960 --> 01:22:58,920
Oh, really? Oh, yeah. I'm the great brandini. I believe it's my.

787
01:23:00,360 --> 01:23:02,840
Or will each reader of you read one of your reviews?

788
01:23:03,800 --> 01:23:06,360
Yeah. My most recent review is GoldenEye.

789
01:23:06,360 --> 01:23:09,080
Nice. GoldenEye. What'd you say about GoldenEye?

790
01:23:09,880 --> 01:23:14,120
I gave it four stars and I said it's an incredible villain, the best Bond girl,

791
01:23:14,120 --> 01:23:18,680
and Pierce Brosnan striking the right balance of the Bond persona. For me, it's a ton.

792
01:23:19,560 --> 01:23:23,640
For me, it's a ton of the visual stylings that just don't look good.

793
01:23:23,640 --> 01:23:27,560
The casualty of the era, the best Brosnan of the era for sure.

794
01:23:28,120 --> 01:23:31,160
Yeah, definitely. Definitely the best, best Brosnan.

795
01:23:32,280 --> 01:23:37,240
I get the visual element of that one. But yeah, it's still one of my favorite Bond movies. It's so,

796
01:23:37,240 --> 01:23:44,120
so fun. And our like our era, you know, of in a way, Pierce Brosnan, even though I'd

797
01:23:44,120 --> 01:23:46,040
like to take ownership of Daniel Craig as well.

798
01:23:47,320 --> 01:23:53,000
I mean, and I would say it was the best Bond girl until like Vesper or till Lucidus character.

799
01:23:53,000 --> 01:23:59,800
Because the Bond girl in in GoldenEye isn't the Bond girl. So the Natalia.

800
01:24:02,600 --> 01:24:05,960
Who'd you say? Oh, I thought you said some I thought you said Lucy Lou for some reason.

801
01:24:05,960 --> 01:24:10,280
I was like, oh, she's a great Bond girl. No, no, no, the Bond girl, the Natalia.

802
01:24:11,560 --> 01:24:20,200
Oh, yes. She like knows more than Bond in the in a lot of situations is not it has so much more

803
01:24:20,200 --> 01:24:28,520
agency and she has her own motivations and she's goes toe to toe like with Bond and doesn't.

804
01:24:28,520 --> 01:24:34,760
Oh, yeah, I don't it's it's really so contemporary and such a good Bond girl that the Bond franchise

805
01:24:34,760 --> 01:24:40,200
has always struggled with because they've always kind of made the Bond girl a beautiful woman who

806
01:24:40,200 --> 01:24:42,040
goes along for the ride with James Bond.

807
01:24:42,040 --> 01:24:53,240
Yeah, and Doctor, no. What is it? It's what's her name? It's Honey Rider, Honey Rider,

808
01:24:53,240 --> 01:25:00,840
Honey Rider, not that little mango tree. But it still suffers from of the era where even though

809
01:25:00,840 --> 01:25:07,960
she knows more about the area and she's like there on her like. Yeah, she's kind of got her

810
01:25:07,960 --> 01:25:11,400
own thing going on. I mean, it just over time, the Bond girls just get like

811
01:25:11,400 --> 01:25:19,720
really flat and single note and all it's about is like them looking good and they make attempts to

812
01:25:20,760 --> 01:25:29,320
like make the female Bond girl or just the Bond girl more contemporary, but they always

813
01:25:29,320 --> 01:25:36,120
have acid. And I feel like GoldenEye is arguably one of the first times where they really nail it

814
01:25:36,120 --> 01:25:43,000
where it's she has depth, she has agency, it's very contemporary. She's an active participant

815
01:25:43,000 --> 01:25:48,280
in the plot, so on and so forth. And she's also told us about shows. So, you know, yeah,

816
01:25:48,280 --> 01:25:53,080
like how she's introduced and she's got her own thing kind of going on with Alan coming and stuff.

817
01:25:53,080 --> 01:25:59,240
And they are contributing to the plot in a way before she's even introduced to Bond. She's

818
01:25:59,240 --> 01:26:05,640
already involved as opposed to, yeah, there's other Bond girls that get introduced later

819
01:26:05,640 --> 01:26:11,560
in the movie or something and are essentially Arm Candy and then meet a Grizzly End or something.

820
01:26:11,560 --> 01:26:18,200
And she has a reason to be there, which I which I like. I agree. Oh, what was what was my most

821
01:26:18,200 --> 01:26:23,240
reason or I'll do the sleeping with the enemy three and a half stars. I said, I've never been so

822
01:26:23,240 --> 01:26:29,240
scared seeing neatly folded towels. You'll understand if you see the movie. Also, calling the

823
01:26:29,240 --> 01:26:35,560
police to report a murder you are about to commit is cold blooded. Light spoilers. But, you know,

824
01:26:35,560 --> 01:26:40,200
it's a yeah, it's pretty solid movie. Let's like, she wants to be caught.

825
01:26:42,600 --> 01:26:47,160
Yeah, you'll see. You'll see in the movie. But man, just like,

826
01:26:47,160 --> 01:26:54,200
fucking just holding a gun on someone and then just like calling. I like to report him.

827
01:26:54,200 --> 01:27:02,440
And just fucking sick. Yeah, let's check out some thoughts on House of the Thousand Corpses

828
01:27:02,440 --> 01:27:07,560
from these rabid fans. They might actually be a rabbit if they're going for the movie like this.

829
01:27:09,080 --> 01:27:16,120
Ian Five Stars. Ari Aster rips off Rosemary's baby and the Wicker Man. Wow, such a master,

830
01:27:16,120 --> 01:27:21,320
delivering the greatest horror movies of our time. Quentin Tarantino spends his entire career

831
01:27:21,320 --> 01:27:27,240
paying homage to spaghetti Western's martial arts movies and more. One of the goats. Rob

832
01:27:27,240 --> 01:27:32,920
Zobby pays homage to the Texas Chainsaw Massacre and debuts with a unique style that he displays

833
01:27:32,920 --> 01:27:40,120
in each and every one of his following films. No, such hack such a hack and terrible filmmaker.

834
01:27:40,120 --> 01:27:46,120
Oh, OK. All right. It's not like, you know, that's good. So fucking sensitive.

835
01:27:48,120 --> 01:27:52,520
Can you clarify your being sarcastic? Because I actually agree with everything you're saying.

836
01:27:52,520 --> 01:27:58,040
If you mean that seriously, but if you're being sarcastic, like, yeah, he's a

837
01:27:58,040 --> 01:28:05,880
heck of a terrible filmmaker. Anyways, let's pull up another one from Mikey V. Five Stars.

838
01:28:05,880 --> 01:28:10,040
Otis ranting to the cheerleaders is me talking to the bathroom mirror at 2 a.m.

839
01:28:13,800 --> 01:28:18,760
From Jesse Five Stars, an obscene and obnoxious assault on the senses with tons of pointless

840
01:28:18,760 --> 01:28:24,680
violence and other depravity. And I love it. I've always been a fan of anything zombie related

841
01:28:24,680 --> 01:28:31,000
and doesn't get much more him than this. The Firefly family have truly become iconic.

842
01:28:31,000 --> 01:28:35,400
There isn't much to say that horror fans haven't already said with fall being just around the

843
01:28:35,400 --> 01:28:39,960
corner. I'm getting super stoked for a spooky season. This was August 19th, 2021.

844
01:28:40,760 --> 01:28:45,160
Should I tell the film school guy I work with about my fondness of this movie tomorrow and

845
01:28:45,160 --> 01:28:52,040
watch him die inside? Wow. I love the ownership of like they're already

846
01:28:52,840 --> 01:28:57,560
manifesting an argument in their head about like I like this and express my love for it to other

847
01:28:57,560 --> 01:29:00,840
people. They're going to be mad at me. It's like that has never even happened yet. You haven't

848
01:29:00,840 --> 01:29:04,920
even said it. It's happening. You're already manifesting like this thing of like, I like it

849
01:29:04,920 --> 01:29:09,960
and you don't. Yeah, like people have done a wrong to you that they haven't committed yet.

850
01:29:09,960 --> 01:29:16,760
Yeah. Yeah. That's such a weird fallacy that I mean, yeah, it's it's very human. A lot of people

851
01:29:16,760 --> 01:29:21,000
do that where they manifest what people how people are going to react to what they're going to

852
01:29:21,000 --> 01:29:26,760
think, but you can never fully know that. And so it is a fallacy to dictate your action

853
01:29:26,760 --> 01:29:34,280
your actions based on the assumption about how people are going to receive that. I mean, sure,

854
01:29:34,280 --> 01:29:38,520
there there needs to be some tact and there needs to be some like you can't just, you know,

855
01:29:39,960 --> 01:29:45,640
yeah, it's not good to just shout things and not care how people are going to feel about things,

856
01:29:45,640 --> 01:29:51,720
you know, but don't like, I don't know if you really enjoy something, don't I don't know,

857
01:29:51,720 --> 01:29:57,640
don't make it somebody out to be a bad guy before they even are bad. Yeah, yeah, it's like,

858
01:29:58,280 --> 01:30:02,200
not quite guilty pleasure, but it's like a form of that where like you like something,

859
01:30:02,200 --> 01:30:07,240
but you're already thinking of this other layer of like, oh, other people wouldn't. Yeah,

860
01:30:07,960 --> 01:30:12,440
appreciate that. I like this or the fact that I do like it makes me makes me different. But

861
01:30:13,560 --> 01:30:18,360
yeah, you can just like it. Yeah, no, no shame, no guilt needed.

862
01:30:18,360 --> 01:30:23,800
Cat gave it a five stars. She's got a little spider in her name. That's cool. I don't know how you do

863
01:30:23,800 --> 01:30:30,600
that. Clearly she's gonna like House of 1000 corpses. Um, yeah, 2023 first watch has to be

864
01:30:30,600 --> 01:30:35,240
one of my all time favorites. We can expect an extraordinary movie that somehow tries to be

865
01:30:35,240 --> 01:30:39,320
everything in the best way House of 1000 corpses is a colorful journey into hell,

866
01:30:39,880 --> 01:30:45,240
different and varied and a mix of everything. Rob Zombie likes to confuse his viewers are

867
01:30:45,240 --> 01:30:49,560
consciously torn from their comfort with his reoccurring color changes so that they stay awake.

868
01:30:50,760 --> 01:30:56,120
This makes House of 1000 corpses a very intense experience and lives out its raw side and its

869
01:30:56,120 --> 01:31:02,680
purest form, but it isn't just a spot pure splatter movie. It's also a sympathetically designed freak

870
01:31:02,680 --> 01:31:08,840
show that you can really enjoy. Zombie's bloodshed aesthetic should be given a chance because even

871
01:31:08,840 --> 01:31:14,840
if it can be very hard, especially in the devilish finale, it was set rolling with love for

872
01:31:14,840 --> 01:31:24,760
detail in the right timing. Yeah, I mean, it is interesting to think about the timing of it because

873
01:31:24,760 --> 01:31:29,560
it is such a product of its time. And I don't know if it could really be successful that came out

874
01:31:29,560 --> 01:31:35,800
today, especially because we're now living in a post 824 world where I think a lot of audience

875
01:31:35,800 --> 01:31:41,880
members when it comes to horror have kind of shown by enlarge by their consumption and the

876
01:31:41,880 --> 01:31:49,720
numbers behind it that people were starved for horror to move away from camp and go away from

877
01:31:49,720 --> 01:31:58,280
gore and by and large go away from jump scares by it, you know, and into more mood and like

878
01:31:58,280 --> 01:32:09,800
dread. Yeah, like dread and that being much more effective in as the tool of the genre than

879
01:32:09,800 --> 01:32:13,960
movies like this. Because yeah, I mean, if this came out today, I think it would just do terribly.

880
01:32:15,000 --> 01:32:20,520
Yes, we're in the we're kind of a little bit past not past the Blumhouse thing, but that's

881
01:32:20,520 --> 01:32:28,280
definitely had its heyday and now it's become such a such a such a big thing that those exist too.

882
01:32:28,280 --> 01:32:35,640
But the yeah, I think the most successful version is something that can be a drama or

883
01:32:35,640 --> 01:32:40,760
or have have characters that you're interested in at least, you know, and but I'm trying to think

884
01:32:40,760 --> 01:32:46,040
in the most exploitative sort of thing that would that would happen today. And I it just isn't quite

885
01:32:46,040 --> 01:32:52,920
the the nature of it these days. And if it is, it's probably going to be on your shutter streaming

886
01:32:52,920 --> 01:32:56,840
service or something like that. There's going to be a certain pocket that people really like where

887
01:32:56,840 --> 01:33:01,480
movies will go in and they'll find low maybe some lower budget things like that. There's probably

888
01:33:01,480 --> 01:33:05,320
a lot of a lot of it out there. I don't know the bargain bin at CBS or whatever has a lot of those

889
01:33:05,320 --> 01:33:11,160
those kind of things. Even a movie that I came up with Brandon with our text chain with large

890
01:33:12,520 --> 01:33:17,640
Polterheist, a ghost heist movie. It's already taken somebody already did it.

891
01:33:18,360 --> 01:33:22,680
I know. Well, they didn't do it well, so we just sold. So we got to do it. So don't take my idea,

892
01:33:22,680 --> 01:33:26,360
folks, but I'm going to put Polterheist out there and it's going to happen one day.

893
01:33:28,440 --> 01:33:35,000
Real quick, I mean, I just pulled up some of the most successful horror movies the last couple

894
01:33:35,000 --> 01:33:42,680
years. And I guess I take back a little bit of maybe this could be successful if it was released

895
01:33:42,680 --> 01:33:47,720
today because I mean, currently in the theater right now is Terrifier three. Oh my God, that's

896
01:33:47,720 --> 01:33:55,560
a good comp. Yeah. And that it's whole stick is being so gross that people throw it like you hear

897
01:33:55,560 --> 01:34:02,360
articles like that's that's kind of the whole thing about it is people are probably going to see

898
01:34:02,360 --> 01:34:07,400
that movie because they read articles of people throwing up, you know, within, you know, the

899
01:34:07,400 --> 01:34:12,360
beginning of the movie and people walking out because it's so disgusting. So I haven't seen

900
01:34:12,360 --> 01:34:18,680
those. I don't know if you have maybe watched a little of Terrifier two and yeah, it's just like

901
01:34:18,680 --> 01:34:25,880
it's just graphic and the pacing, though, I don't know. There's something about the iron and I

902
01:34:25,880 --> 01:34:30,200
didn't watch much of it, but there was a little bit more of like I could breathe a little bit

903
01:34:30,200 --> 01:34:36,520
between things, you know, and this movie was just that yeah, very of its time within the editing

904
01:34:36,520 --> 01:34:42,680
and like you're saying the color correction and and all of that stuff that I don't know how it

905
01:34:42,680 --> 01:34:46,120
would hold up today and I don't know if it would be made the same way. But I guess there's a version

906
01:34:46,120 --> 01:34:50,760
that you're very right where there's a version of that type of thing that is is being pedaled

907
01:34:50,760 --> 01:34:56,280
today that has its audience. So which is not yeah, then maybe I just come to terms with it's just

908
01:34:56,280 --> 01:35:00,920
not for me the sort of thing. And I think that's not the first time on this podcast in a polarized

909
01:35:00,920 --> 01:35:06,280
movie or it's like, oh, it's just not not for me, I guess, because it's clearly for these sickos. But

910
01:35:06,840 --> 01:35:13,560
I get I get being a sicko. I'm a sicko in my head. I mean, also too, I think

911
01:35:14,920 --> 01:35:23,000
this movie wants to try to achieve what the evil dead stuff does really well, which is

912
01:35:23,000 --> 01:35:29,320
it's do like those I like those. Yeah, like great camp room. Be pretty graphic.

913
01:35:29,960 --> 01:35:33,720
And also have like, yeah, camp and humor to it.

914
01:35:36,120 --> 01:35:44,600
Great, because this is made by somebody who finds enjoyment out of these practical effects on this

915
01:35:44,600 --> 01:35:50,040
and grossness and the gore stuff, you know, obviously, because that's trying to be communicated

916
01:35:50,040 --> 01:35:55,720
pretty clearly in this movie. But again, the reason that the evil dead movies are so successful

917
01:35:55,720 --> 01:36:01,400
in comparison is because the characters that are getting these are all of these bad things are

918
01:36:01,400 --> 01:36:07,000
happening to them, you sympathize with them, you clearly understand like you have a hero,

919
01:36:07,000 --> 01:36:12,040
like there's a hero. Yeah, you're right, you're you're rooting for somebody. And yeah, there's no

920
01:36:12,040 --> 01:36:17,800
wonder for this movie. There's a point. Yeah. And there's an escalation of going down below in the

921
01:36:17,800 --> 01:36:27,000
book and and and it is a it's a vignette sort of thing where things things kind of it's a house

922
01:36:27,000 --> 01:36:32,360
of horrors and things kind of gradually happen. But I think I just yeah, I need to be able to

923
01:36:32,360 --> 01:36:40,360
digest it better. And this is everything thrown on the plate at once. And it's too much so much

924
01:36:40,360 --> 01:36:48,280
so that it that it just turns it's like every color just turns black or ugly brown instead

925
01:36:48,280 --> 01:36:58,040
of like a nice nice image. I'll do one more from the Brian s s espadilla. Five stars feels like

926
01:36:58,040 --> 01:37:01,960
the work of someone who wasn't sure they'd ever get the chance to make another movie again and

927
01:37:01,960 --> 01:37:09,640
threw everything into it. Sylasically deranged insane debut seeing that split diopter shot on

928
01:37:09,640 --> 01:37:17,240
the big screen did something for to me. It's a diopter. I guess I would be the technical term

929
01:37:17,240 --> 01:37:23,720
of like the the it split into two visuals in the same frame. Yeah, she's like seeing and

930
01:37:24,680 --> 01:37:32,760
you get that's like the center and it's a mirror. I guess yeah, I say the split screen is pointless,

931
01:37:32,760 --> 01:37:37,640
but I guess like in that scene, a scene of like a shot of her and then a shot of the reaction

932
01:37:37,640 --> 01:37:45,960
in the same shot that to what end? I think this is just not not for me this movie and I the polarizing

933
01:37:45,960 --> 01:37:54,120
nature of it sounds like yeah, horror fans are an interesting group like the really die hard ones

934
01:37:54,120 --> 01:37:58,680
that could throw something on like this and like, you know, to fall asleep to or something or like

935
01:37:58,680 --> 01:38:03,800
they just it's just a they enjoy yeah, like you said, maybe the practical side of it, the style of

936
01:38:03,800 --> 01:38:11,800
it all. And that is strangely comforting to them or something and I've gone back and tried to watch

937
01:38:11,800 --> 01:38:17,960
a little bit more like campy horror movies and things like that and I I have fun with them. I

938
01:38:17,960 --> 01:38:23,640
get that I get the idea of it, but this one is just so purely upsetting and not a lot of joy to be had

939
01:38:25,080 --> 01:38:31,000
and nothing to glob onto for me and that was that was difficult for me. But should I just give my

940
01:38:31,000 --> 01:38:37,400
score as well? Yeah, go for it. Yeah, I'm trying to think any any other any other final thoughts.

941
01:38:37,400 --> 01:38:42,200
I think overall it's just not it's just not doing anything. It just didn't do anything for me and

942
01:38:42,200 --> 01:38:47,240
it actually yeah, made me upset and grossed out and disgusted. And it was it was making me wonder

943
01:38:47,240 --> 01:38:55,560
if I was like too hard on other movies in our past catalog of polarizing movies. But it's difficult

944
01:38:55,560 --> 01:39:01,160
for me to come up with something redeeming about it and the attempt at doing a 70s style

945
01:39:02,200 --> 01:39:07,160
cinematography and everything had flashes of cool stuff. There's some flashes of interesting

946
01:39:08,840 --> 01:39:15,640
sets and the surgeon down below. I thought was a cool look and outfit if I just saw Rob's zombie

947
01:39:15,640 --> 01:39:19,240
video or something about school if I was playing Elden Ring and that guy came out to fucking

948
01:39:19,800 --> 01:39:25,000
battle me or Baldurs Gate three or some shit and I saw that surgeon guy and be like oh this is cool

949
01:39:25,000 --> 01:39:30,600
cool fucking design. But anything good was just washed out with all the all the bad so

950
01:39:31,720 --> 01:39:37,160
it's going to get a really bad score for me. I'll do a nine.

951
01:39:41,800 --> 01:39:47,000
Do a nine. Yeah, nine percent. Yeah, nine percent really didn't do anything for me and I'm never

952
01:39:47,000 --> 01:39:51,480
going to want to see what's just again. I mean if we if you want to do doubles rejects we can do

953
01:39:51,480 --> 01:39:56,600
doubles rejects at some point. I'm not completely opposed to it. But we'll think what? Yeah, it's

954
01:39:56,600 --> 01:40:01,320
just I wouldn't I'm interested. I wouldn't recommend it and I wouldn't watch it again.

955
01:40:02,040 --> 01:40:06,760
And I would be curious to hear from someone who did really like it with what they liked about it

956
01:40:06,760 --> 01:40:13,320
a little bit more in detail, I guess, just to maybe there's there's a other you know references and

957
01:40:13,320 --> 01:40:17,880
other things that I don't understand. But that shouldn't matter. I should be able to walk into

958
01:40:17,880 --> 01:40:23,640
the movie and decide if I enjoy it or not without having to see a bunch of other stuff in my opinion.

959
01:40:23,640 --> 01:40:28,120
And that's my opinion. I'm sticking to it a nine percent baby.

960
01:40:30,840 --> 01:40:35,880
Or I could do a 10 point oh oh house of 10 point oh oh corpses.

961
01:40:35,880 --> 01:40:51,720
Oh wow. That's that's so fun. That's so fun. Okay. Yeah, this I mean it's

962
01:40:53,880 --> 01:40:59,560
this is a discussion where I think I overall said my how I feel about it pretty clearly

963
01:40:59,560 --> 01:41:08,760
throughout the whole discussion. I don't need to be labor the point. Yeah, this doesn't add anything

964
01:41:08,760 --> 01:41:17,000
to the genre. It is somewhat respectable that it is interested in highlighting some of the

965
01:41:18,520 --> 01:41:28,920
parts of previous movies that are yeah are interesting or are iconic or or you know

966
01:41:28,920 --> 01:41:34,520
fundamental to the genre. But it's it's very hacky in the sense that it doesn't really add

967
01:41:34,520 --> 01:41:40,120
anything more to it. And then just as an overall movie experience, I mean it's shitty people saying

968
01:41:40,120 --> 01:41:45,400
shitty stuff to shitty like it's just no one is redeemable. No one is good. And it doesn't

969
01:41:45,400 --> 01:41:50,040
necessarily need to have like good people, but it needs to have people who are more like

970
01:41:51,400 --> 01:41:56,600
natural or who are just at least some more relatable, I guess, and the and this movie

971
01:41:56,600 --> 01:42:01,160
it doesn't yeah doesn't do that at all. It just creates all it just is filled with all of these

972
01:42:01,800 --> 01:42:03,720
extreme characters that

973
01:42:05,800 --> 01:42:11,160
again could be okay. Yeah, I don't know. It's it's hard not to think about how this movie could be

974
01:42:11,160 --> 01:42:17,560
better because there's so many things that it just doesn't get right or just doesn't like fully

975
01:42:17,560 --> 01:42:25,080
commit to. And so it does just yeah kind of elicit the like see what you're doing here. And I see

976
01:42:25,080 --> 01:42:30,840
where your influences lie, but you it's just there's nothing new being said here or there's nothing

977
01:42:30,840 --> 01:42:38,120
interesting to latch on to. So yeah, I mean, overall, it's just washes over you and it's

978
01:42:38,120 --> 01:42:41,720
forgettable too. I mean, you know what, I'm gonna fucking join I'm gonna get this a 9% to you man.

979
01:42:41,720 --> 01:42:47,080
Let's do it. Hell yeah, single digit this motherfucker. Let's put this movie in a body bag.

980
01:42:48,520 --> 01:42:53,000
Let's put it in the house of the 1000 corpses. Here's another corpse for your house.

981
01:42:53,000 --> 01:42:58,520
Yeah, it's I don't think it should be remembered. I think it's got a pretty fucking cool name.

982
01:42:59,480 --> 01:43:03,880
I think the name's kind of cool. I think the name is I think the name has like made me like

983
01:43:03,880 --> 01:43:07,560
inch it made me curious about like I should watch that sometimes because that just that

984
01:43:07,560 --> 01:43:11,880
sounds like it'd be a kind of a classic scary movie like House on Haunted Hill or I don't know like

985
01:43:13,000 --> 01:43:15,560
a modern modern take of it or whatever but

986
01:43:15,560 --> 01:43:24,120
um 13 ghosts, you know, we just had more more numbers in our in our titles too.

987
01:43:25,400 --> 01:43:30,920
Well, that's that's been our our hot take on House of 1000 corpses to a movie that

988
01:43:31,880 --> 01:43:38,520
has been or been around a while we just got to it and I think we'll leave it back in 2003 or

989
01:43:38,520 --> 01:43:46,200
or whatever I think I think it belongs there and to all the people that love and enjoy it. I hope

990
01:43:46,200 --> 01:43:52,360
you still continue to and hope our opinions didn't didn't change that because yeah, like don't want

991
01:43:52,360 --> 01:43:59,720
to yuck anyone's young but this is just not for us guys over here. But we are not done with spooky

992
01:43:59,720 --> 01:44:07,640
sorry not done with spooky season. We're going to fit in another one and it will be a little bit

993
01:44:07,640 --> 01:44:16,840
more lighthearted. We will be doing for next time a little movie where's when is this movie from I

994
01:44:16,840 --> 01:44:23,320
don't have the year in front of me. Oh 1998 practical magic with Sandra Bullock and Nicole

995
01:44:23,320 --> 01:44:29,720
Kidman will be our next feature it is a very polarizing on round tomatoes. It carries a 25

996
01:44:29,720 --> 01:44:35,800
percent from the critics they do not care for it. What was the House of 1000 corpses was 22 and this

997
01:44:35,800 --> 01:44:43,240
is 25. So this is only 3% better than House of 1000 corpses according to critics which kind of

998
01:44:43,240 --> 01:44:51,640
blows my mind but it is a 73% by the audience and we're going to check it out. It's going to be

999
01:44:51,640 --> 01:44:58,600
which which a good time and we hope you join us. Should I do a little I'll do a little synopsis here

1000
01:44:59,400 --> 01:45:05,640
Sally and Gillian Gillian Gillian Owens born into a magical family have mostly avoided witchcraft

1001
01:45:05,640 --> 01:45:12,120
themselves but when Gillian's vicious boyfriend Jimmy Angeloff dies unexpectedly unexpectedly

1002
01:45:12,680 --> 01:45:17,640
the Owens sisters give themselves a crash course in hard magic with policeman Gary Hallett growing

1003
01:45:17,640 --> 01:45:22,680
suspicious the girls struggle to resurrect Angeloff and unwittingly inject his corpse with an evil

1004
01:45:22,680 --> 01:45:30,280
spirit that threatens to end their family line. Sandra Bullock, Nicole Kidman, Diane Weist,

1005
01:45:30,280 --> 01:45:39,000
Edyn Quinn love that guy, a very young Evan Rachel Wood. We're gonna have a good time hopefully.

1006
01:45:39,000 --> 01:45:45,720
Hopefully about a time than this one. I appreciate everybody sticking around for a discussion of

1007
01:45:48,360 --> 01:45:53,480
a lot of criticism towards the movie but I think it helped release a lot of pent up

1008
01:45:53,480 --> 01:46:02,520
anger and gross gross outedness from this movie so I'm glad I was able to have a little therapy

1009
01:46:02,520 --> 01:46:09,800
session with my polarized pod best co-host in the biz. The great brandini appreciate you man is

1010
01:46:09,800 --> 01:46:16,200
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1011
01:46:16,200 --> 01:46:21,640
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1012
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1013
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1014
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