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Hello, welcome to the podcast, the polarized podcast, the podcast about polarizing movies

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according to Rotten Tomatoes. The kinds of movies that audiences and critics disagree on,

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sometimes the critics love it, sometimes audiences hate it, or vice versa, we're back yet again for

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a scintillating, dare I say, sexy, hot, sweaty episode of PolarizePod. I'm your host James.

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Wow. Wow, folks. Cruel intentions. Let's look at those numbies. That's what we're all about here,

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is those sweet, sweet numbies on PolarizePod on the critics side of things on Rotten Tomatoes.

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They gave it a 53%. They did not like it. The audience, however, gave it an 80%. 80%

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average from the audience side. They did like it. Could this be considered a cult classic? I don't

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know. Definitely a pop culture cornerstone, I would say for 1999, all those great movies coming out

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in 1999. Was this one of them? We'll find out at the end of the episode what we have to think about

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it. But first, a reading from Cruel Intentions. Eat me, Sebastian. It's okay for guys like you

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and Court to fuck everyone, but when I do it, I get dumped for an innocent little twist like Cecile.

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God forbid I exude confidence and enjoy sex. Do you think I relish the fact that I have to act

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like Mary Sunshine 24-7 so I can be considered a lady? I'm the Marsha fucking Brady of the upper

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east side, and sometimes I want to kill myself. So there's your psycho analysis, Dr. Freud. Now,

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tell me, are you in or are you out? And I ask you, audience members, are you in or are you out on

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the polarized pod? Now is the time to decide because I'm about to bring in the master of all

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polarized kingdom is here, presiding. I give you the great brandini yet again. Hello, hello, hello,

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my lovely cohost, my lovely co-conspirator in polarized pod movie discussion crime.

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I gotta say, this is this already has the potential to be a legendary episode because

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there's a lot of factors already built into this. First and foremost, we love factors.

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First and foremost, this movie fucking nuts. It is one of the craziest movies I've ever seen.

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And then on top of that, we've kind of taken a break. I want to check, you know, teach some time

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after I grand entrance to just check in. But we've taken a break. You know, we've been doing this

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pod for years and we've been fucking pretty consistent about it. And you know, all things

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considerate. I mean, consider those things and then also blow it out. Sure. Definitely.

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Seems like it's in. Oh, you froze up for a second, but continue. I don't know why. Oh, I'm back. I'm

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back. Hey, I'm back. You're in the middle of telling them to blow it out your ass. No, yeah,

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yeah, blow that dress. No, we we've been on a break because we needed it. It was the summer.

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We had things going on. We have busy lives. You know what? We're dudes about town and we have

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things that we've had to attend to. So we've been away from the pod and we needed it. I think

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overall we've talked about this. So I hope this isn't new news, but we needed it. We needed a break.

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We needed a little bit of time to get re-acquainted with this thing we love. Films.

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Exactly. And this is really for you folks, because it's just going to make us better at what we do.

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It's going to make us better or so. I think a little hiatus wasn't announced. It wasn't planned.

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But God damn it, we're in this area. Did we find out? Yeah. And we took the time. We walked all about

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town and we've watched multiple towns. I feel like at this point, we'd show up in a fancy car,

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white wall tires, grab our pocket watch and our fancy shades and trench coats and make our way

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about town, maybe have a little picnic at Central Park. Yeah. And then make out with each other.

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You know, it's something we needed to do. I needed experience and Brandon helped me. Okay. So, you know,

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I mean, who better to, you know, do a trial run than with your best buds? Yeah.

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I mean, that's what they're there for. No.

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Because yeah, I just, you don't want to show up to something else and not be inexperienced. And so

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that's what you're all the things that are, you know, toxic and nefarious in this movie.

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We can all agree that that point was just a great, great moment of two friends helping each other out.

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Yeah. What are their no-intentions to Sarah Michelle Geller there have there than just to help

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a friend out? A lot of them. A lot of them, unfortunately. Damn. She was just helping her

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little buddy out. Let's go. Let's go to picnic basket and Central Park and have a time because

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that's what that's what debutans do. They, it's a, it's a day pork kissing, you know, get together.

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It is romantic when you're out in Central Park and you got a picnic basket and

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you're just hanging out. And I mean, there's, there might be some kissing and you didn't even

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have, have planned just like you didn't plan a break. You didn't plan to have a,

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have a make out sesh with your, but you got a picnic basket. What else are you going to do?

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You, it's too romantic. I mean, you really have to take the wind for what it is when you have

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a picnic basket and Yogi bear doesn't come in and steal it. Right? Oh, you know,

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that Yogi bear. Is there any other description for him that we can think that doesn't revolve

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around a picnic basket? Like what else does he have going on in his life? Let me just say,

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like, you know, like, get a life, Yogi, South Steel and pick the baskets.

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Speaking of you know, one picnic basket, he could probably like hunt or something.

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He's not completely useless. Is he? Or has, has people littered complacent? Yeah. People litter

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so much that he just doesn't feel the need to hunt anymore. And now he's, he doesn't know how to be a

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bear. Well, and that's really just, I think the, the, you know, kind of the reading in between the

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lines, if you will, it's commentary on the boomer generation transitioning from more labor to more

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civilized society. It's really, yeah, escaping indictment that he no longer knows how to hunt

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all he does is steal from others. I mean, it's just like Wall Street. That's why he's got a little

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tired. And we're just like boo boo, you know, that's the baby. That's the, I'm like, we're just such

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a ball. All our millennial friends are just boo boo, just trying to figure it out. Like, hey, man,

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like they taught us to steal the picnic basket. And now there's no more picnic baskets to steal.

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They, they just pulled the ladder up from behind them. Because here's the thing is you can't just

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keep stealing picnic baskets. Yeah. If you don't make them, okay, if you're going to run out of

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picnic baskets to steal from is what you're really only one as well. Like if you're going to be a

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sustainable bear, which you live in the woods, you should try to be focused on some sort of

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sustainability. You just only need one, one basket, pick a naked basket. And then you can

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carry that along and use that a reusable pick a naked basket, folks. Come on. Yeah. I mean, yeah,

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I think it's safe to say Yogi is really that boomer mindset, not really thinking about reusable,

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about going green. I don't, I don't give the sense that Yogi bears, you know, going green anytime soon.

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Yeah. Why even wear a tie? You weirdo. I know. And I have

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right. And then he's standing up like he's going to fool people that he's not a bear,

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that he's a normal person and he's just, but he's still stealing, which is not okay.

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That's cruel intentions. That's cruel intention, folks. Like,

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I mean, if you notice that was an IMDB trivia during the scene with some of Larry and Sarah

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Michelle Geller is like, you're so focused on them making out rightfully so it's, it's out of the

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scene, the entire movie where I'm cringing the majority of it. That's, that's one thing where

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it's actually like, oh, this is actually kind of hot. That is like a pretty hot scene and you

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can't really look away. But if you do look away, you look a little closer. Well, Sam

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Blair's character is rough. Really? But if you look a little closer in between the spit bubble,

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you'll see a Yogi bear in the background about to steal the picnic basket. Right. Yeah.

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No, and he just came from Wall Street. So he's already in a stealing mindset. He's in New York

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very. Yeah. He's just already wanting to, you know, take picnic baskets away from other people,

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you know, cause all he cares about there, the Yogi Brady of the Upper East Side.

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Right. Sometimes I want to Jesus Christ. Okay. Okay. Can I pitch? Can I just pitch a

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a Wall Street movie like Gordon Gecko, but it's Yogi bear? I love that because there's

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some sort of tagline there like it's a bear market, something like that. Yeah, which is not

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necessarily the lazy. We can punch it up, but that's the lazy start. Yeah, starting. We're

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starting there and then we can work it up. We can work on that. Right. He's just gets up there

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and he's like, for lack of a better term, pickin it baskets are good. Well, we found figured out

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our teaser. That's our teaser trailer. Hey, I'm teased. Teased is all hell. Speaking of teased,

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I mean, this, this entire movie. But Yogi bear in Wall Street, that's the thing is like, he

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doesn't know how to diversify his market because like that's like the original point is like,

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what else has he got going on besides the picnic baskets? I guess he's just like the

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nemesis of Parker Rangers. And I'm sure like smokey's got to be like, you know what, fuck Yogi.

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Like I'm with the Parker Rangers. Why does he have to be a such a, you know, such a pill?

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I mean, they're both bears, so I'm sure they probably relate to each other, at least at that

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level. But I'm sure there's probably a point of contention about, you know, how they both upright

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bears. Yeah, they like they're both upright bears that wear pants. Yeah, that's the actually

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big one. Discrement on his pants, wearing portion of it. Who has pants? Smokey has pants.

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Smokey does. Yeah. Smokey has his jeans. Dungaree. Yeah, he does. He's got he's got blue jeans. Yeah.

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Oh, yeah. He's got blue jeans. He's got a little tail hole.

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You don't often see the back of us. Yeah. You usually just see him on a sign and being like,

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it's fire season. Watch out, you know, once you add one piece of clothing, then you start to

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wonder why there is not a full set. I don't know. You know, it's like, oh, he's got a top. And why

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even wear the top? If you're going to have bottoms that might be to believe that there should be

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bottoms if you got a top. What do you cover? And I thought that, you know, shouldn't be covered on

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the bottom. I'm always self conscious about walking around without pants on, because I feel

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like I'm doing a Yogi bear. You know, is that what instantly comes to your mind? It is. That

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war is got your tie and your hat on. I got my time. My hat on, but no pants. Cause the pants are

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the last thing I mean, okay, on a hot day, get out of the shower and throw your tie and your

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hat on. You're like, okay, I'm going to do some chores first before I put the rest of it. Yeah.

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Before I put my pants on. That's for sure. Absolutely. I put my pants on just like anybody

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else after my hat.

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Damn straight. God, I feel so hurt right now. So see. Oh my God.

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Well, I mean, we're waiting for the Yogi bear reboot. I'm surprised there hasn't been one.

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Waiting for Guffman with Yogi bear. That's another fun one.

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That's imagine that. If you just were to continue that movie. Yeah. Cause you can't parody like

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that's kind of a parody already. So you just like would just throw him in, make him like, oh my God.

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Yeah. Yeah. It's like a Garfield without Garfield, but then it's adding Yogi bear.

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Oh my God. Garfield would be so much better if you took Garfield out and put Yogi bear in.

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Fuck Garfield. You fuck Garfield. For real. That was a, that was a moment. Yeah. That was the

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Garfield minus Garfield. That was a little bit of like the, we're so random. Hashtag random.

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And we, yeah. And we come from a generation. I think it's kind of an elastic as well.

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Would you say this is one generation before us? This movie. This is the Yogi bear to our boo boo.

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It is kind of like a Gen X. Yeah. I think this is a very gen X movie. Right.

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Like in it's also to him, like it's what it cares about. Right. Cause it's so cynical.

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It's such a cynical movie. Yeah. And streaming. And to a fault as well. It's like many,

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many, many, many faults. And this movie and we'll gladly get into them because yeah, it's just wild.

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Cause I don't know. I guess I just want to start the conversation with you about how

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this is representative of a, of a generation and of a time because with this having the audience

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score that it does, there is a fondness for this movie and it's cynicism and it's portrayal of the

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rich and wealthy that at the time it was seen comical and edgy, but has really not aged well.

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This movie is tough to watch. It is a really hard movie to watch. I would just say, I'm sorry to

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start getting into overall opinions of this, but my God, like there are points of view in this movie

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or at least what it thinks it's being smart and critiquing about that comes also from a place of

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like a shitty perspective as well. It's like somebody with who's an asshole talking about

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assholes and it really is makes it like hard to digest and hard to get on board with anything that

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this movie has to deal with. You bring up a great point of its, of its attitude right off the bat.

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I think is a good, definitely a good place to start because that transcends not just one character,

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but multiple and like Fleeep and Michelle Geller as a, as a unit can represent that itself. But

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even how the movie thinks of itself is very much like the kind of like the,

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like the nihilistic sort of just like dark sort of brewing, doing sort of thing within

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them that doesn't really have a reason why they are this way.

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Money, money, money and privilege, and power and like privilege. Yes.

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But they are not interested in getting into that part of it though. They're just interested in,

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in the product, which is a big product of it, which is totally current attitude and how they

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decide to inflict that on other people rather than getting into kind of who they are where,

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and I mean, yeah, maybe this is early to bring it up too, but we're getting into it. It's like this,

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after recently watching Saltburn within the past year, is like, not a, not a great movie,

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but a good movie. But at least in that one, like it gives you a stronger hint of Barry Keogan's

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characters backstory. It gives you a much stronger feeling, feeling about how, how you should feel

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about the situation. And regardless of, you know, like not that it absolves him or anything, but

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at least gives you some version of, of like an empathetic sympathetic sort of way of looking

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at him of like him lying about his backstory, and then him having to confront it, those like two

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scenes that they throw in, and then they can have all their front cruel intentions shit on top of

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that. But this movie really is just focused on the negative and it is soul draining, and it does not

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hold up well at all, and it does not treat its characters in a way like that's respectful. And

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there's this, yeah, there's that dark spirit behind both of them that is not justified or explained,

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and not that it necessarily has to be, but it's not filled out, there's movies is not filled out,

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it's all mean, it's all negativity, it's all pessimism, it's all cynical, cynical, unicinicism.

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And that's something that I think we've talked about in past movies is like, and especially

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like something like horror movies, which, you know, spooky season coming up and everything too,

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is like the ones, you know, there can be horror and there can be thrills and chills and all that

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stuff, but if it's just mean, that's not fun, you know, and this is just mean, totally. And it's,

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and it also makes the critique of it lessened, because it's not coming from a place of wanting

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anything to change or any or has any interest in this being kind of a vehicle for change and saying,

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like, here, let me show you what the aristocrats of your society care about and isn't disgusting of

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how vapid and how uninterested they are with what's really happening and all they care about is their

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own shit and all of it is so meaningless because it's like, well, I want to be perceived to be

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this way and that's all I care about. So I'm just doing things based on how it's going to be perceived

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so that I can become more influential and more powerful. And there is a better version of any

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story like this and Sultrn too, because Sultrn really, in my mind, struggles a lot with actually

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getting into the classism that it seems to care a lot about critiquing. It just is defaults to a

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wild ride instead of getting like actually getting into the weeds of what it is trying to

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be critical of. It's just like, you know what, it just we're going to go along and and it's going

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to end and you're like, OK, maybe whatever. I agree. Yeah, it just gave like a little bit more

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like as far as a modern take goes to the person's reason, maybe reasons of why they are.

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Brian Freeth and Sarah Michelle Geller, there is no sort of payoff in that respect for me

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in terms of their backstory beyond just like right off the bat, they're already hatching plans and

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playing games and everything too. And like, yeah, I don't know. There's also things that I don't

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need to overly explain away. And there's a good version of the movie that doesn't necessarily

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have that. But some of the things that happen in this movie, damn it. I want a little bit of an

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explanation to some of this or like at least a face of a facing up of some of this some of this

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stuff. But because the movie thinks it's having fun and I'm not having fun with it. And at least

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in Saltburn, shock value is the fun there and it's attempting to pull. What's the fuck a lot

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better than this movie? Let's be right. This movie looks like poopy doobie snoopy. Yeah. And it has

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a style all its own. And it goes a long way. Like there's a lot of this movie shock value too. But

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it's just it's not worth it. Yeah. No. And it's not even enjoyable to get to these mediocre shock

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values because the visuals of the movie are disgusting. Like this movie looks like shit in

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my opinion. Like it's very like soap opera. Very TV. Nothing about this would would indicate like

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the person like that's what I'll give credit to Saltburn for is if somebody

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movie about the wealthy and the rich, it better fucking look good because that's what these people

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really give a shit about is looking good and looking good for long periods of time their whole

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life because their aesthetic and their image is so incredibly important to them. And that's what I'll

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give Saltburn the credit for even though in my mind it fumbles the bag with a Barry Keogan character

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and then really makes the movie like have no follow through which is my overall critique of it.

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But like this movie on the other hand looks like shit and everybody in this sucks. And it's the

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cost is our bad. But I agree with you on the outfits are the outfit. No, you're right. The

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outfits are pretty sweet. I will give you that. Especially for watching a movie of this time

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that has so much pop culture status and weight when it came out that to me even to take it one step

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back as well as like I've never seen this movie. I've never watched this movie. I think when I

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was younger like it would show up on TV and I would like throw it on for a bit. I'd see

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Philippe and Michelle Geller like you know hatching plans and stuff and I'd just get this. Yeah, just

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okay, I got kind of a sense of what this is about and move on until I saw another team movie and

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probably like however many other parodies that I would see of it. And that was always my frame of

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reference for this movie was just that reference like it was just reference and other things and

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and occasionally like watch it here and there. So to actually sit down and watch it like front to back.

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It's it is crazy, right? Very worth it that like for for I'm glad that you say the same as well.

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It's like for both of us now we can I don't know to check things off your your list at you know more

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and more with movies and everything having our own podcast about it's like oh well if we're going to

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talk about movies it's good to be aware at least and be educated and everything and this is a yeah

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as much of a pop culture moment as it is and as much as even salt burn you know that was really

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really quick and I'll try not to keep comparing it it's like nice to go to the source absorb it get

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into it and see like not only them two but Joshua Jackson and Salma Blair and like these

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kind of classic sort of people from from this time in this movie but god damn it like this

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movie I can see why it's just not talked about really as much anymore and why why it doesn't hold

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up because there are very very like offensive things that like someone like myself doesn't want to get

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offended by things but it's just like what they play for humor and what the movie thinks of itself

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like I was saying earlier is thinking this is comedic when it's like really fucked up and

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and actually sad or bad.

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Especially when it's playing with sexual and it's in its way like sexual politics and everything

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and the treatment of the Salma Blair character in particular was was rough but that's our I think

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that's just getting to the history of our you know interaction with the movie but would you have

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any like anything beyond that beyond just some of the references that I mentioned?

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Yeah I mean so many of the references were yeah I didn't I didn't I hadn't seen this movie so the

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references for it of like scary movie like you brought up were lost on me that this was it was

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from this movie at the time because that's why I was talking to you before we started recording

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is like this is for the this is Generation X where it's the generation before us because for

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yeah like I I wasn't old enough for this movie when it came out obviously and I had only heard

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about this movie through parodies of it and then yeah that's that's my relationship with it so I

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mean that's why I think we're able to have such a critical eye of it because I think if we were a

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little bit older I think we would be more leaning into like isn't that time so crazy that we thought

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it was okay to make like to have a character like Salma Blair where he is a caricature of somebody

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she is this dumb innocent debutant that has had her whole life pampered for her and

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the the stuff that happens to her in the movie

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it's like for somebody with different politics than us would be like well that's just how it was

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but it's hard to really look past how a woman is treated in a movie comedic or not because of the

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way that thing like just the way that it what happens I don't know like even like how she's

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written is is just in reference to other characters it seems like it seems like there's there's no

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version of her that exists on her own like you're saying like she's a poorly veiled written

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character just as a pawn and a tool for our two main characters to take or I mean and I don't know

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Michelle Giller is definitely a main character to take advantage of and use in their own ways

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and both of them do just that pretty much everyone outside of them to are just pawns to be used by

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them and the only one that sticks up in her own way is Reese Witherspoon is also the saving grace

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of this movie if there was one yes not that it completely saves anything but if there's any

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positive aspect of it and somehow she just is able to hold up in this movie when there's so much

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bad crazy stuff happening around her sure yeah but this I mean we don't have to go through

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all the specifics but it just yeah we don't know it starts like very quickly he has this you know

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he has his car that's a big deal the car it's a cool looking car but what I would say too just

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not a day driving not a daily driver I don't want to fully leave the like this idea of

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this movie opens up two instances that it's suggested by a novel which I've never seen

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ever but it's a french novel and I understand when I saw that that actually helped me a little

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bit saying this movie because this being based off a french novel makes sense because french

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novels can be like this where it is so

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like so like playing this game of bureaucracy and of this of this upper echelon and how

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the everybody's you know involved in these seated romances and are no way to other see

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monogatoise know everybody's secrets and it is also that salacious because you're just like oh the

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person whose family this is from is hooking up with you know so-and-so and all of that

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but I could easily as a person who's seen enough french films could understand that

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that this would look better and would probably focus more so on not making people caricatures

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as much as this movie does like that's in my mind the americanization of of a french story

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of critiquing the uh boob wasi like this movie likes the idea of all this nefarious

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act like acts by teenager ostensibly and picks up on that but has no flair and style and subtlety

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that a french version of this would have so then it comes off as being like really gregarious and

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like it's like fuck you here's all these shitty people and it's just so flashy and so american

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especially also in its like soundtrack too is nuts to me like this movie drove me crazy before

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you get into that i was just like yeah the american versus even european like sensibilities

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made me think of how much time was planned or how much time was spent on in in an american version

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of something just the planning of something like him and seren michelle galler sitting there like

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this is what we're gonna do and man this is like very very clear about the rules and this is like

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i can't wait to drive the car and i can't wait till you know and like the back and forth there of

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them just edging each other while her edging him constantly but which maybe this is a zoomer

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movie brand i don't know so much edging in this movie uh but there's just so much like in the in

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like them setting down the rules and planning and stuff rather than if this was done in and i haven't

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seen like dangerous dangerous liaisons which is another uh you know sort of version of of this

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uh or this is a take on that but like there's a version of this where you sit in the more of the

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actual sexuality of it not like not like the politics and like the getting back at each other

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there and holding things over each other in the blackmail and all those little rules and everything

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like there's a version of this where you sit in it after the love making has already finished and

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they're sitting there together you know i know it's all very transactional in this whole sort of way

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and just to get one over on somebody else but like there is a version where there's like they're just

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sitting in in that for a little bit and and being vulnerable and showing them showing a different

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side of themselves but this movie is so non-concerned with that it's just concerned with the the

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thrust of like the lust of it all and like the uh the planning and and getting back at each other

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and stuff that like it's really frustrating because you want it to be it can it can be like

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either sexier or more interesting definitely yeah or even like i'm trying like like the edging sort

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of thing like like you know hold like a little holding back but like in a way that's like you

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know purposeful purposeful in some way like either would either way like you're saying but it's

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and i feel like salt burning it does that in a way we're like oh this guy i know i said i was

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gonna stop bringing it up but like taking a guy that's sexually repressed and having him

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act in these certain ways it's like i don't know it's it's uh delving more into the sexual nature

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of it rather than just like these guys are bored and they're more into the power and control of it

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all maybe there's an interesting version of that too but in this version i think that represents

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more uh of an american sort of way of unit which which you mentioned and then you are about to get

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into uh the soundtrack which is definitely worth mentioning as well no huge part of it and definitely

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a positive as well like these little trappings of the 90s of like the wardrobe and the music

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and the cast you know even if yeah i mean i guess that's where the movie succeeds it's like

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capturing that style well because i think there's some really interesting style um in the movie

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if so bashing does wear some crazy outfits um i feel like you could belong in the matrix with some

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of the glasses and everything but it's just so funny to think about how to me what this

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conversation is made me think of is the difference between the uk skins versus the us skins it's like

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it's so interesting how we are not that sexual in comparison to others we're very repressed and

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this movie needs more sexuality and struggles with it because of it because of the american

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sexuality of it all and that again must be a huge difference between this and what it's adapted of

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is like i think the people would like we would just see more trists or more sexual tension

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or just more sexual interactions especially there's very little sexual interactions between

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Sebastian and Reese witherspoon even though that's fundamentally the like the plot of the movie is

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Reese witherspoon sexuality opening up while simultaneously awakenings while simultaneously

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Sebastian is fitting into what makes sense for her rather than just being so self interested in

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self interested in his own sexual conquest not giving a shit about other women but

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it's another awakenings and conquest but if there if there was just like conquest and

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awakenings that's what i would call this movie but cruel tension is a good name too i just like

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a version or a scene in this movie where sex is like good and pleasurable and happy

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like just one scene like this movie so so much about sex like there there should be a version

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of it that's good right right i don't know yeah with that like even even though ryan like i think

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there's there is there could have been a version where like the him and Reese witherspoon love

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story is more accentuated that is the thrust of the movie no pun on it but that is the thrust of

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the of the movie is there them to like actually falling in love and they stumble on that like

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heavily for an hour and a half movie it's like man you could you could make that the story way more

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but the one scene that i keep in think of that that is trying to make like it sex positive is

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arguably a fucking s a scene man yeah with him in selma blare is like a wine scene level

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like level see like a young wine scene level fucking manipulation tactic is is what he like

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i don't know all the all this the photography scene with her and like and the and yeah the

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power play and all that stuff is like the music is is playing in a way that it's supposed to be

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humorous and it's supposed to be funny and it's and it's supposed to be humorous yeah it's painting

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her as a square and and and and yeah and a fool and that she yeah and uninitiated and

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that shit was the roughest i think that yeah i think that's seen there's a lot that is rough but

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i think that one was because that that disconnect of like the movie doesn't know what it is and it

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doesn't and it thinks something is funny when it's actually like harrowing it's so so yeah right

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oh my god hold the dragon tattoo level like no it's not levels no it's not no but i so many

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but if you're letting you take advantage in a way that's way beyond and it's playing it for laughs

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it was like not only this move does this movie like not hold up but it is yeah it is offensive

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it's offensive yeah absolutely what the movie would like to do is to show you that he's a terrible

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person and she is a naive participant but they push it with her in particular way too far on the

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nae bete like they make her like a child yeah which makes it so fucking gross big time and that's

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the problem i had with the scene that you're talking about is that she is such a uneducated person

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that is then getting coerced into doing something that she has no agency or no

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understanding of and being completely taken advantage of which is so fucking disgusting and

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yeah subashian is a really bad guy so that's what the movie is trying to write like that's

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what's going on is the subashian's a terrible guy and he is doing terrible things and whatnot but

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the movie also wants it to be salacious and being like oh here's some sex here's some uh you know

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yeah here's some sex and it sucks because it's not in a better movie he is not as blatantly and a

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caricature really of a like a simpleton a child an undereducated person very privileged like

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it wants to say right is like she's getting something out of it too is is a part of the

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what in my mind what the movie wanted to like what it was trying to go for is being like well she

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now also loves sex and now she's you know using him and it's not as bad but they need her to

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establish that she has feelings feelings for this other guy but all house he's using Ryan

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sleep as like a warm-up yeah right but like she's just all how she can't close her legs the mother

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is taking care of her and it's just it's it's too much childlike stuff placed on her to then have an

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ass a scene in it it really is that doesn't even know it is one yeah yeah and she has to be coached

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so much as along with her cello instructor that um you know both of them never really have a moment

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to express their own desires beyond for each other and even then there's so much of yeah

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Fleeep and Sarah Michelle Geller just fucking with them in a way and I think that storyline

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of Selma Blair was so completely useless for me and like didn't even need to because everything

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that happened because of it and from it just didn't contribute anything to me and anything that was

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positive had to do with Reese Witherspoon anytime she was on screen I was like I felt a little bit

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better um and some of the Sarah Michelle Geller is like you know just so campy villain sort of fun

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sort of thing like like it starts to be kind of kind of funny at points but uh apart from that like

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all the Selma Blair stuff and then the extremely racist scene fucking made me like want to just

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jump out the window and you know when like cringe my balls off yeah dude my balls are you have

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yet to come back yeah they've receded right uh absolutely absolutely yeah that fucking we

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don't even have to go through it it's just rough no and you know and to your point is like just from a

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like you're making a very very good critique of the movie from just a simple plotting standpoint

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because all of Selma Blair stuff the the guy the cello teacher ends up sleeping with Sarah Michelle

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Geller so again it like Ronald like it really doesn't matter like it there's a person where it's like

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he doesn't matter like he doesn't even really give a shit about her so he's so what the movie says is

375
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:48,160
Ronald actually is easily manipulative and he is now sleeping with Sarah Michelle Geller so again

376
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:53,680
like what is Sarah Michelle Geller really doing with Selma Blair because it the movie wants us to

377
00:42:53,680 --> 00:43:01,520
say like at first is like so Sarah Michelle Geller has this idea of like getting into her to then

378
00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:08,720
like fuck over this guy but none of that really ever just likes to play she just likes to fuck

379
00:43:08,720 --> 00:43:13,280
around man like and there's a version of it maybe if they flesh it out more it's like oh Fleepe is

380
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:20,640
fucking with her while Michelle Geller is fucking with him to what end I don't know but like maybe

381
00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:26,480
maybe he's using her as warm-up or something for Selma Blair there's like some sort of oh Henry

382
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:32,560
gift to the Magi like oh I didn't I was warming up with it oh you were warming up with her oh we

383
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:38,080
were both preparing for each other in this I don't know that sounds like a weird funny French

384
00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:42,720
sort of thing of like oh we both had warm-up sex partners and then we are now we're more prepared

385
00:43:42,720 --> 00:43:48,880
for each other sex is good now we're very like in love and now also we know how to fuck better I

386
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:55,040
don't know there's like up there's like a funny twist of like an irony sort of thing there but

387
00:43:55,040 --> 00:44:05,200
instead it's played for pure just like I don't know animosity is is why she has him in a drawer

388
00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:14,800
under her bed and the the relationship between Selma Blair and him is one of the few pure things

389
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:19,680
in this movie is those are like seem to be two pure people that however are falling in love

390
00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:25,920
over music and instructing thereof of the cello a beautiful instrument a beautiful instrument

391
00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:30,720
and to teach someone the cello like that pretty hot scene man if I just watched

392
00:44:30,720 --> 00:44:37,120
we're pretty sure the first one that movie's not looking by she's a good looking girl and

393
00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:41,600
they're like bonding over the cello I think he's saved the last dance I mean the yeah

394
00:44:42,720 --> 00:44:48,240
and that's a good scene teaching someone you got to have your arms wrapped around him and then it

395
00:44:48,240 --> 00:44:57,360
just uh it it ruins any sort of positivity and I think just needed uh some aspect of of that

396
00:44:57,360 --> 00:45:03,280
and I might even sure I'm trying to think of salt burn even had that but there's there's a want

397
00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:09,680
and a need for sex at least in that movie and this one it's just used as like a tactic um for the

398
00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:16,000
most part so all the Selma Blair stuff aside I think we can I don't know I can shuffle all that

399
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:23,280
shit away and then if we're I don't know I think we're kind of uh careening towards at least some

400
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:31,680
of the uh climactic and plot details like near the end here of um of this rap

401
00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:35,760
yeah you want to before we do that yeah let's take a break we'll be right back

402
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:46,480
okay we're freaking back folks uh yeah I was saying we were careening towards the end because

403
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:52,160
there's a car careening towards Reese Witherspoon that uh Ryan Philippe has takes issue with

404
00:45:52,160 --> 00:46:00,640
um but beyond that anything else to do with the end I'm trying to think of what I appreciated about

405
00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:07,200
the latter portion of this movie there's this sort of thing that the movie's doing where it's

406
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:14,320
trying to redeem Ryan Philippe in some sort of way I feel like and I don't like it I don't like it

407
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:20,560
either I don't like it I don't like I don't like that and the thing that they do at the very end

408
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:28,160
to redeem him is kill him which somehow absolves him and makes him a martyr for like all of him

409
00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:33,360
and Sarah Michelle Geller's wrong doing for it not only it doesn't make them co-conspirators it

410
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:41,280
makes him the martyr and makes it all on her she's the Regina George of his burn book and I don't

411
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:46,240
like it I don't like it at all either there's this part where it's like he gets run over by the car

412
00:46:46,240 --> 00:46:52,000
I'm like yeah kill him and then he gets hit and then I'm like oh he's fine and then it's like cut

413
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:57,360
to his funeral I'm like oh no they actually didn't and I was not happy about that not only because I

414
00:46:57,360 --> 00:47:05,280
wanted him to face up to the facts man but I also uh if they are gonna kill him get a Meechio Black

415
00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:11,920
car run over in that moment man come on that was not good enough you gotta really fucking sell it

416
00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:17,840
he like did a little tumble over and then he had enough energy to speak some last words to

417
00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:24,000
Reese Witherspoon and then fade it off like come on yeah to me that blood puddle sorry

418
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:35,200
I mean to me the him dying was such a fuck you I really like it yeah detested that choice of it

419
00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:47,520
because in before he dies the redemptive arc of him is he doesn't care about the bed anymore

420
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:58,320
and what he cares about is essentially Reese Witherspoon knowing that he gave a shit about her

421
00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:06,320
right and he's like he's like making a martyr out himself even before he dies too because he's like

422
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:13,200
totally yeah very much pursuing things with her anymore because he knows that whatever that he

423
00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:19,040
it's not the proper intentions and it like for him to pursue it further wouldn't justify the

424
00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:28,480
this movie's cruel intentions the intentions are so cruel yeah and they don't justify the the ending yeah of

425
00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:33,040
what he wants and then you find out that she's just been using him as her little her little

426
00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:37,760
let's talk about that her little toy okay let's talk about that because the movie thinks it's like

427
00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:43,440
Christopher Nolan level it's like blow fell and the author of their pain

428
00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:53,440
that guess what it was her the whole fucking time and me personally I was like fuck you movie

429
00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:59,920
yeah right and more so because it was all she's saying is just like wait a minute oh like

430
00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:05,840
anything you were worried about any sort of nuance with the plot don't worry about it I was just bad

431
00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:13,920
for being bad I was just bad for being bad say anything why because I was having fun and you're

432
00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:22,720
my little toy and there's no there doesn't have to be a reason I'm just bad right but so she set up

433
00:49:22,720 --> 00:49:29,760
her whole life in order to be able to do that it's just it's so like blow felled being added in late

434
00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:36,160
into the Jane Spawn series of like oh I'm actually the author of your pain and here's all of these

435
00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:45,120
situations in which I actually was manipulating you and you know you're the idiot and so again

436
00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:52,800
the movie thinks it's like playing 40 chess where him dying it's like

437
00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:59,520
he's just piece of shit so he is gonna die and then the movie ends with the Sarah Michelle Geller

438
00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:08,640
being like found out for being a total bitch and like all of this but it has no like I don't

439
00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:15,920
understand the stakes at all is my problem is like her being like Sarah Michelle Geller being a

440
00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:26,640
bitch him rightfully big dying and then all and uh uh witherscreen succeeding in some plan I guess

441
00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:34,160
he had from the very beginning to what nothing I don't understand like I really just I think she's

442
00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:41,680
she is she is a pure person that got caught up in all this and stuck to her values no way that's

443
00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:49,600
not what the movie's saying the movie's saying like she was like uh pulling all the strings right

444
00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:57,360
just for the car no I think that she in the same like taught in the same way that he was trying to

445
00:50:57,360 --> 00:51:07,600
try to teach her a lesson or something of like uh of taking this pure person and you know me in

446
00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:15,600
and and uh corrupting them was the challenge in her way if if it is what you're saying is like

447
00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:21,040
she's trying to purify him the same way that she's trying he's trying to toxify her or whatever but

448
00:51:21,040 --> 00:51:25,600
I don't think she's even aware but I'm not I don't think but okay if that's not what you're

449
00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:30,480
saying I just don't think that's even the case I think that things led to this point where she

450
00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:37,920
gets the car which I don't think is satisfying whatsoever either um well that's what I think I

451
00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:44,080
think them two together is like yeah just meant to be like a love story like she are you saying

452
00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:48,400
like she knew from the beginning about this whole plan that's what the movie that's what the movie

453
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:53,200
was led us to believe the end of the movie is I didn't get that is that she knew that that was

454
00:51:53,200 --> 00:52:00,640
they were coming after her right because there's a scene there's a scene at the church uh before

455
00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:06,480
the speech that sir Michelle Geller gives about Ryan Fully based like death and who he is and

456
00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:11,440
people start walking out she's freaking out about it but before that they have a moment

457
00:52:12,720 --> 00:52:21,120
and then uh uh Reese Witherspoon says a thing that they had said early on in the movie uh okay

458
00:52:21,120 --> 00:52:30,480
uh it it makes you it shows me as like Reese Witherspoon is actually been

459
00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:39,920
aiming for this this whole time is to essentially kill this guy through like bringing him in

460
00:52:40,720 --> 00:52:48,720
because her whole objective as like this christian girl is to show how

461
00:52:48,720 --> 00:52:56,720
how it's not to kill him well not to kill him but like yeah I don't know what you mean is like

462
00:52:56,720 --> 00:53:02,240
is it is a little bit of what I was saying is like she's trying he's trying to corrupt her and

463
00:53:02,240 --> 00:53:11,920
she's like going to not maybe purify him but prove her values and in a way sure is to yes right

464
00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:17,360
because but her getting the car is not a satisfying thing and it's her driving off into the sunset

465
00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:22,960
in this car that just means it just means nothing to me it's like first of all whatever why does she

466
00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:28,080
get the car who really cares but also in much of the way of like a scary movie where you're like

467
00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:34,480
hey where's the police this whole time I'm like where are these parents of Ryan Philippe and Sarah

468
00:53:34,480 --> 00:53:40,080
Michelle Geller I get that they're like they were probably like rich magnates people that like

469
00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:45,760
were already rich and they already divorced and then because they already had kids and then they

470
00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:50,240
got together with another rich person that like they don't even have to fucking work here's your

471
00:53:50,240 --> 00:53:57,120
big mansion kids I'll just we'll have other kids come and stay and then we'll just go and do our

472
00:53:57,120 --> 00:54:03,360
thing but the fact that like you don't even see them at Ryan Philippe's funeral where is his

473
00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:11,360
it's his father or mother the fact that he dies in general is just so fucking ham fisted and

474
00:54:11,360 --> 00:54:17,440
shitty like I hated that a lot just the fact that he died I don't know like because right when it

475
00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:21,760
starts buying bittersweet something it's like you made a margar out of a piece of shit like it's

476
00:54:22,560 --> 00:54:29,680
like it was I can never get on board like the fact that he died didn't make me feel like well you

477
00:54:29,680 --> 00:54:35,200
know what maybe he's a good guy no not at all like what are you talking about at least Sarah

478
00:54:35,200 --> 00:54:41,280
Michelle Geller got her is it's like no it's like there's so much more to resolve here right

479
00:54:41,840 --> 00:54:48,720
does someone player and Ronald like do they ever figure it out does she figure out to play the

480
00:54:48,720 --> 00:54:55,680
cello does her mom ever become not racist no I doubt it um I'm gonna look her mom is played by

481
00:54:55,680 --> 00:54:59,920
a legend we just watched both we just watched both finger yeah that's all I was like she did both

482
00:54:59,920 --> 00:55:05,040
finger both finger immediately after this movie so it was like definitely around that time and I think she was uh

483
00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:13,200
she's the city who's neighbor in the Grinch she is uh huh yeah her name is uh Christina

484
00:55:13,200 --> 00:55:19,200
Baransky yeah Christmas lights uh gun she's great love her terrible terrible scene in this

485
00:55:19,200 --> 00:55:27,600
movie it sucks the Gregster um to deliver that fucking the whole yeah it was really bad really bad

486
00:55:27,600 --> 00:55:35,920
um I think now's the perfect time to go through our notes yeah I was looking at the let's see here

487
00:55:35,920 --> 00:55:41,520
opens on a cemetery I thought that was an interesting choice where it's just hovering over like

488
00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:46,240
gravestones what does it have to do with this movie I guess it's a it's a foreshadow and to Ryan

489
00:55:46,240 --> 00:55:54,480
Philippe I think the intro of some sucks ass it's by placebo can we play some music for the people

490
00:55:54,480 --> 00:56:04,720
let's uh check out the um the placebo song I got I I put trip on love that was my song where it was

491
00:56:04,720 --> 00:56:16,720
oh shit song it's fucking all right so this is every you every meaning by placebo and fill the null

492
00:56:16,720 --> 00:56:24,480
I'm not a big placebo guy as it is so neither am I and I think this is sometimes

493
00:56:30,640 --> 00:56:35,600
this is where the movie starts with just for people to understand like this is how the music

494
00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:38,720
I think the song is okay I would not start a movie with

495
00:56:38,720 --> 00:56:43,440
it it's it's not a great it's not bad

496
00:56:47,840 --> 00:56:53,920
oh it stopped playing because I'm trying to be a naughty naughty nely and play it over um

497
00:56:55,120 --> 00:57:02,800
discord which it does not allow me to do that was every you every me um I'm gonna play

498
00:57:02,800 --> 00:57:07,680
let's see what would be the other I mean bittersweet symphony everyone knows that

499
00:57:08,720 --> 00:57:12,400
I mean if you can play the song you put in the general

500
00:57:13,280 --> 00:57:20,000
the general yes of course and I'm got bittersweet symphony in the background here

501
00:57:21,760 --> 00:57:22,480
before we get into

502
00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:25,280
trip on love the song is wild

503
00:57:25,280 --> 00:57:34,080
this is a crazy song

504
00:57:34,080 --> 00:57:52,880
but

505
00:58:04,080 --> 00:58:08,080
It just slipped down

506
00:58:08,080 --> 00:58:12,080
And we both knew my heart could be broken

507
00:58:15,080 --> 00:58:18,080
I've said something

508
00:58:18,080 --> 00:58:22,080
And I intended to say

509
00:58:22,080 --> 00:58:25,080
It's not like it

510
00:58:25,080 --> 00:58:30,080
It wants me to feel my own environment

511
00:58:30,080 --> 00:58:37,080
ERS

512
00:58:37,080 --> 00:58:46,080
I want you by my side

513
00:58:51,080 --> 00:58:53,820
"-ky looks so good!"

514
00:58:53,820 --> 00:58:55,820
I'm doing something for you.

515
00:59:07,820 --> 00:59:09,820
Happy hunting, Sebastian.

516
00:59:11,820 --> 00:59:14,820
And this is the Marcy playground song that is in the section.

517
00:59:15,820 --> 00:59:18,820
Something that's so wide as I love it from this movie.

518
00:59:18,820 --> 00:59:20,820
Keep your legs together.

519
00:59:20,820 --> 00:59:23,820
This isn't Jamaica.

520
00:59:25,820 --> 00:59:26,820
Thanks.

521
00:59:26,820 --> 00:59:28,820
Yeah, that's.

522
00:59:29,820 --> 00:59:32,820
My husband, I gave money to.

523
00:59:33,820 --> 00:59:35,820
No, did. Yeah, see, that's.

524
00:59:36,820 --> 00:59:37,820
That shit.

525
00:59:39,820 --> 00:59:42,820
I can't believe like that's the shit that like never hold up.

526
00:59:42,820 --> 00:59:44,820
Like it could.

527
00:59:45,820 --> 00:59:47,820
It could have been a year after that, that that shit.

528
00:59:47,820 --> 00:59:48,820
Fucking.

529
00:59:48,820 --> 00:59:50,820
Like it wasn't good at the time.

530
00:59:50,820 --> 00:59:52,820
Like I don't understand how.

531
00:59:54,820 --> 00:59:56,820
The brown sugar line fucking.

532
00:59:56,820 --> 00:59:57,820
My mind.

533
00:59:59,820 --> 01:00:00,820
Of like.

534
01:00:03,820 --> 01:00:04,820
Couldn't believe it.

535
01:00:04,820 --> 01:00:06,820
It sucks.

536
01:00:06,820 --> 01:00:07,820
It does.

537
01:00:07,820 --> 01:00:09,820
It does. I did not like it.

538
01:00:09,820 --> 01:00:11,820
Oh, I like it too.

539
01:00:11,820 --> 01:00:12,820
Yeah.

540
01:00:12,820 --> 01:00:15,820
I mean, a lot of my notes are like.

541
01:00:15,820 --> 01:00:21,820
Yeah, just all of this like love letter writing is stupid.

542
01:00:22,820 --> 01:00:24,820
Yeah, what is the email for Brandon?

543
01:00:25,820 --> 01:00:28,820
Oh, email is for pedophile.

544
01:00:28,820 --> 01:00:29,820
What is it?

545
01:00:29,820 --> 01:00:31,820
It is geeks and pedophiles.

546
01:00:31,820 --> 01:00:32,820
Geeks and pedophiles.

547
01:00:32,820 --> 01:00:33,820
Yep.

548
01:00:33,820 --> 01:00:35,820
You got to write a letter, baby.

549
01:00:36,820 --> 01:00:37,820
I'm rightfully.

550
01:00:37,820 --> 01:00:39,820
I got a pocket watch and I'm an incel.

551
01:00:40,820 --> 01:00:42,820
But I still have a lot of sex somehow.

552
01:00:42,820 --> 01:00:43,820
I don't know how it works.

553
01:00:43,820 --> 01:00:44,820
Really.

554
01:00:45,820 --> 01:00:49,820
Suzy Kurtz was the therapist at the beginning.

555
01:00:49,820 --> 01:00:50,820
I like her.

556
01:00:51,820 --> 01:00:52,820
I'm just terrible therapist, by the way.

557
01:00:52,820 --> 01:00:53,820
Oh, terrible.

558
01:00:53,820 --> 01:00:54,820
Holy shit.

559
01:00:54,820 --> 01:00:55,820
Oh, yeah.

560
01:00:55,820 --> 01:00:57,820
Can I get a hug and you like dry humped her.

561
01:00:58,820 --> 01:01:00,820
And then she's like, actually read my book and it's about

562
01:01:00,820 --> 01:01:01,820
parenting.

563
01:01:01,820 --> 01:01:03,820
Like why would he give us with that?

564
01:01:04,820 --> 01:01:08,820
And then the whole killer lanes move with so he puts on

565
01:01:08,820 --> 01:01:12,820
Suzy Kurtz, but then he also put on her stepdaughter who's

566
01:01:12,820 --> 01:01:14,320
fucking what's her face?

567
01:01:16,920 --> 01:01:18,580
Tara read.

568
01:01:18,580 --> 01:01:19,300
That's right.

569
01:01:19,300 --> 01:01:20,420
Tara read is the.

570
01:01:20,420 --> 01:01:24,260
Yeah. And she is crying on the phone for just for one moment.

571
01:01:24,260 --> 01:01:28,000
This is the version of Tara read where she's like Big Lebowski, Tara read

572
01:01:28,420 --> 01:01:30,860
where she's in a very consequential scene.

573
01:01:31,360 --> 01:01:33,800
And that's all. And then she's never seen again.

574
01:01:34,600 --> 01:01:36,820
And then there's Jennifer Love Hewitt joke.

575
01:01:37,500 --> 01:01:38,860
Yeah, totally.

576
01:01:38,860 --> 01:01:41,160
Which is so bad.

577
01:01:41,160 --> 01:01:44,760
She's on the cover of 17 and they make an menstrual cramp joke about her.

578
01:01:45,420 --> 01:01:47,460
She's on the cover of 17.

579
01:01:51,360 --> 01:01:51,900
I don't know.

580
01:01:51,900 --> 01:01:55,860
Like, is this after I know what you did last summer or a scream or whatever

581
01:01:55,860 --> 01:01:56,760
out of there together?

582
01:01:56,760 --> 01:01:59,120
Anyways, it's terrible jokes.

583
01:01:59,120 --> 01:02:00,760
Yeah, terrible, terrible jokes.

584
01:02:00,760 --> 01:02:04,120
You get Joshua Jackson, a character that we have not mentioned once

585
01:02:04,120 --> 01:02:07,460
because it's probably just too embarrassing to even bring up like

586
01:02:07,460 --> 01:02:11,300
how they treat gay people in this movie is is just as

587
01:02:11,800 --> 01:02:15,400
another form of a tactic from our two main characters.

588
01:02:15,400 --> 01:02:22,100
But that bong that he has is shaped just like a shlong

589
01:02:22,100 --> 01:02:24,300
and I put bong shlong in my notes.

590
01:02:25,900 --> 01:02:27,200
I think Brandon is frozen.

591
01:02:27,200 --> 01:02:28,200
Can you hear me?

592
01:02:28,200 --> 01:02:29,200
I can hear you.

593
01:02:29,200 --> 01:02:30,200
Okay.

594
01:02:30,200 --> 01:02:31,200
This is your video.

595
01:02:31,600 --> 01:02:35,600
But yeah, that I mean, I thought he played it pretty well.

596
01:02:35,600 --> 01:02:39,360
The movie what the movie says about him and about everything else sucks,

597
01:02:39,360 --> 01:02:43,960
but him and some bleached hair and everything, that was cool to see.

598
01:02:43,960 --> 01:02:47,360
I thought everything was okay besides him just like filing his nails

599
01:02:48,360 --> 01:02:55,360
and then just like using like gay shaming to another tactic for football.

600
01:02:55,360 --> 01:02:56,360
Whatever.

601
01:02:56,360 --> 01:02:57,360
Yeah.

602
01:02:57,360 --> 01:03:03,160
The great stir blackmailing like for being the great stir just loving the

603
01:03:03,160 --> 01:03:07,160
great sir fucking loving loving dudes.

604
01:03:07,160 --> 01:03:10,160
And then he's like, yeah, then he has this whole scene where he's telling his

605
01:03:10,160 --> 01:03:14,160
buddy's like, yeah, so I was like, tell her to fucking suck my cock.

606
01:03:14,160 --> 01:03:17,160
And then everybody's like, yeah, great stir.

607
01:03:17,160 --> 01:03:19,160
Great stir is the best.

608
01:03:19,160 --> 01:03:25,160
But then he's also a fucking like also he throws away his village people CD

609
01:03:25,160 --> 01:03:27,160
because he's a he's ashamed.

610
01:03:27,160 --> 01:03:30,160
I was like, I should know because it's like the most like stereotypical.

611
01:03:30,160 --> 01:03:33,160
He's like, I can't be gay anymore.

612
01:03:33,160 --> 01:03:35,160
He's like throwing away village people.

613
01:03:35,160 --> 01:03:38,160
And he's like, oh, I got to keep Judy Garland.

614
01:03:38,160 --> 01:03:41,160
I got to keep Judy Garland Judy.

615
01:03:41,160 --> 01:03:46,160
It's like, I'm laughing at how the movie, I don't know, just how terrible

616
01:03:46,160 --> 01:03:48,160
this terrible the movie thinks.

617
01:03:48,160 --> 01:03:54,160
I would like clever the movie thinks it's it's being and how stereotypically bad it is.

618
01:03:54,160 --> 01:03:56,160
All right.

619
01:03:56,160 --> 01:04:01,160
Let's take a break and then let's get into final thoughts.

620
01:04:01,160 --> 01:04:04,160
Yeah, I'll just show my notes here.

621
01:04:04,160 --> 01:04:07,160
I think I only have yeah, oh, the cherries.

622
01:04:07,160 --> 01:04:10,160
That's my like that maybe something else, but like the cherries.

623
01:04:10,160 --> 01:04:12,160
She's eating.

624
01:04:12,160 --> 01:04:16,160
She's she lost her virginity and she's eating a platter of Maraschino cherries,

625
01:04:16,160 --> 01:04:20,160
not actual cherries, but Maraschino cherries because they're just so red.

626
01:04:20,160 --> 01:04:26,160
And it's just like it's like the most unsubtle fucking shit in the world.

627
01:04:26,160 --> 01:04:28,160
Yeah.

628
01:04:28,160 --> 01:04:30,160
I want to fuck.

629
01:04:30,160 --> 01:04:32,160
That was one of the lines in the movie.

630
01:04:32,160 --> 01:04:34,160
I want to fuck.

631
01:04:34,160 --> 01:04:38,160
I got your just a conquest.

632
01:04:38,160 --> 01:04:39,160
What's that?

633
01:04:39,160 --> 01:04:41,160
I got peace out moron.

634
01:04:41,160 --> 01:04:44,160
Dude.

635
01:04:44,160 --> 01:04:46,160
That peace out moron.

636
01:04:46,160 --> 01:04:50,160
I said that to my older sister in the 90s at some point.

637
01:04:50,160 --> 01:04:52,160
Oh, God.

638
01:04:52,160 --> 01:04:54,160
Peace out moron.

639
01:04:54,160 --> 01:04:55,160
Whatever.

640
01:04:55,160 --> 01:04:56,160
Whatever.

641
01:04:56,160 --> 01:04:58,160
I want to be Madonna.

642
01:04:58,160 --> 01:05:00,160
Yeah, we can take a break down.

643
01:05:00,160 --> 01:05:02,160
We'll wrap this shit.

644
01:05:02,160 --> 01:05:03,160
Dig up.

645
01:05:03,160 --> 01:05:06,160
Let's do it.

646
01:05:06,160 --> 01:05:08,160
All right, we're back.

647
01:05:08,160 --> 01:05:10,160
Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen to Polarize Pod.

648
01:05:10,160 --> 01:05:11,160
Movie about.

649
01:05:11,160 --> 01:05:12,160
Or not the movie.

650
01:05:12,160 --> 01:05:15,160
The podcast about the movies that are polarizing.

651
01:05:15,160 --> 01:05:18,160
According to Ron Tomatoes, you got the audience side.

652
01:05:18,160 --> 01:05:20,160
You got the critics side.

653
01:05:20,160 --> 01:05:21,160
That's how they break it down.

654
01:05:21,160 --> 01:05:23,160
And a lot of times they disagree.

655
01:05:23,160 --> 01:05:27,160
We thought it'd be fun to talk about those kind of movies and make a whole

656
01:05:27,160 --> 01:05:28,160
podcast about it.

657
01:05:28,160 --> 01:05:32,160
So let's get into some of those reviews.

658
01:05:32,160 --> 01:05:36,160
That decide what movies we get to talk about.

659
01:05:36,160 --> 01:05:39,160
We're going to start with the critics in case you forgot.

660
01:05:39,160 --> 01:05:42,160
They gave it a 53%.

661
01:05:42,160 --> 01:05:43,160
Poopy doopy snoopy.

662
01:05:43,160 --> 01:05:46,160
In the year of 1999.

663
01:05:46,160 --> 01:05:48,160
That this movie came out.

664
01:05:48,160 --> 01:05:50,160
Lots of good movies of that year.

665
01:05:50,160 --> 01:05:54,160
But this was not one of them, according to the critics.

666
01:05:54,160 --> 01:05:56,160
One of those.

667
01:05:56,160 --> 01:06:00,160
Critics on Ron Tomatoes is known as Rex Reed on the Observer.

668
01:06:00,160 --> 01:06:05,160
He says, despite all the prerent dialogue, director Rich.

669
01:06:05,160 --> 01:06:09,160
Roger Cumble making his feature directing debut after the dubious

670
01:06:09,160 --> 01:06:14,160
honor of writing dumb and dumber is positively bashful about

671
01:06:14,160 --> 01:06:17,160
actually showing anything remotely sexy.

672
01:06:17,160 --> 01:06:19,160
Fair criticism.

673
01:06:19,160 --> 01:06:20,160
Absolutely.

674
01:06:20,160 --> 01:06:23,160
Did not realize that the director of this wrote dumb and dumber,

675
01:06:23,160 --> 01:06:26,160
one of my favorite comedies of all time.

676
01:06:26,160 --> 01:06:30,160
Of this, this era as well.

677
01:06:30,160 --> 01:06:33,160
Peter Bradshaw on the Guardian said cruel intentions should have been

678
01:06:33,160 --> 01:06:35,160
a great idea.

679
01:06:35,160 --> 01:06:38,160
That's that's the blurb we got here from Joe Morgenstern at Wall Street

680
01:06:38,160 --> 01:06:39,160
Journal.

681
01:06:39,160 --> 01:06:43,160
He says, you've got to see it to believe the goofiness of French

682
01:06:43,160 --> 01:06:47,160
aristocrats recast his pansexual degenerates from a private school

683
01:06:47,160 --> 01:06:49,160
on Manhattan's Upper East Side.

684
01:06:49,160 --> 01:06:51,160
Just got to see it to believe it.

685
01:06:51,160 --> 01:06:53,160
Do you see it to believe it?

686
01:06:53,160 --> 01:06:57,160
Paul Robachow from Boston Globes is the story of sexual manipulation

687
01:06:57,160 --> 01:07:01,160
and emotional coldness becomes a mean teen romp around gave it a

688
01:07:01,160 --> 01:07:04,160
two out of four.

689
01:07:04,160 --> 01:07:06,160
Rick Grown Globe and Mail.

690
01:07:06,160 --> 01:07:09,160
He's a film a cancer to a pack of Spice Girl cards.

691
01:07:09,160 --> 01:07:11,160
He wrote that in 2002.

692
01:07:11,160 --> 01:07:12,160
So you know what?

693
01:07:12,160 --> 01:07:13,160
Nice.

694
01:07:13,160 --> 01:07:14,160
What he's working with.

695
01:07:14,160 --> 01:07:17,160
Peter Trader's Rolling Stone says rarely has a film elicited more

696
01:07:17,160 --> 01:07:21,160
raucous unintended laughter.

697
01:07:21,160 --> 01:07:22,160
And let's see.

698
01:07:22,160 --> 01:07:26,160
We got CNN Paul Clinton, the teenage target audience will probably

699
01:07:26,160 --> 01:07:28,160
gobble cruel intentions right up.

700
01:07:28,160 --> 01:07:33,160
But for me, this film borders on creepy.

701
01:07:33,160 --> 01:07:35,160
Fair to say, Paul.

702
01:07:35,160 --> 01:07:36,160
The poor.

703
01:07:36,160 --> 01:07:39,160
Caro Chicago Tribune, you may come to realize that if a bomb suddenly

704
01:07:39,160 --> 01:07:46,160
blew up everyone on screen, you wouldn't particularly miss anyone.

705
01:07:46,160 --> 01:07:47,160
And we'll finish off with that.

706
01:07:47,160 --> 01:07:49,160
Let's get into some audience reviews.

707
01:07:49,160 --> 01:07:57,160
Clearly the critics did not care for it.

708
01:07:57,160 --> 01:07:58,160
There's some good ones in there.

709
01:07:58,160 --> 01:08:02,160
I could do I could do a positive one as well, just to just to get a taste

710
01:08:02,160 --> 01:08:04,480
Because there are some people that sick up from it,

711
01:08:04,480 --> 01:08:07,000
for it like Richard Shickalott Time Magazine,

712
01:08:07,000 --> 01:08:09,600
our fascination with this tale has always derived

713
01:08:09,600 --> 01:08:13,280
from its cool portrayal of utter amorality,

714
01:08:13,280 --> 01:08:16,140
which Comble and his cast nicely energize

715
01:08:16,140 --> 01:08:19,080
with their heedless, youthful intensity.

716
01:08:21,960 --> 01:08:23,200
That's a nice way to put it.

717
01:08:23,200 --> 01:08:25,560
That's our one little taste of a nice critic,

718
01:08:25,560 --> 01:08:29,300
but let's get into some positive audience reviews.

719
01:08:29,300 --> 01:08:34,220
I would say this, this movie holds an important place

720
01:08:34,220 --> 01:08:36,660
in culture in a way, and I think the audience

721
01:08:36,660 --> 01:08:41,660
will be a representation of that in the 80% range.

722
01:08:43,100 --> 01:08:45,580
I'm gonna go to Letterbox right off the bat,

723
01:08:45,580 --> 01:08:47,660
cause these are just more fun.

724
01:08:47,660 --> 01:08:50,780
From Erin, five stars, my life is not complete

725
01:08:50,780 --> 01:08:53,220
until I get a Coke cross necklace.

726
01:08:54,700 --> 01:08:55,660
Yeah.

727
01:08:55,660 --> 01:08:57,780
From Kayla, five stars.

728
01:08:57,780 --> 01:09:00,460
Okay, Catherine has one framed photograph in her bedroom

729
01:09:00,460 --> 01:09:02,580
and it's of herself.

730
01:09:02,580 --> 01:09:04,060
I just live for that.

731
01:09:06,100 --> 01:09:07,620
Don't you wish you could become that person

732
01:09:07,620 --> 01:09:10,540
where you just have one framed picture of yourself?

733
01:09:11,940 --> 01:09:14,940
Also from Erin, the one we mentioned at the beginning

734
01:09:14,940 --> 01:09:16,700
wrote two reviews.

735
01:09:16,700 --> 01:09:19,460
This review is also five star and he says,

736
01:09:19,460 --> 01:09:21,420
invented sibling porn.

737
01:09:22,260 --> 01:09:23,740
Jesus, yeah.

738
01:09:24,780 --> 01:09:25,780
That is something we didn't say,

739
01:09:25,780 --> 01:09:28,220
the whole step brother thing.

740
01:09:28,220 --> 01:09:30,260
Yeah, we didn't talk about it

741
01:09:30,260 --> 01:09:32,260
cause it's fucking weird.

742
01:09:32,260 --> 01:09:33,900
There's not much else to say.

743
01:09:35,300 --> 01:09:36,940
From Nicole, five stars,

744
01:09:36,940 --> 01:09:39,900
the ending with Bitter Sweet Symphony playing is untouchable.

745
01:09:41,940 --> 01:09:43,300
From Abby, five stars.

746
01:09:43,300 --> 01:09:47,540
Why is it I fall in love with the most problematic movies?

747
01:09:49,020 --> 01:09:51,020
It's not too long Michelle.

748
01:09:52,940 --> 01:09:55,260
And this is the third one from Erin, five stars.

749
01:09:55,260 --> 01:09:57,540
You could cut the sexual tension between me

750
01:09:57,540 --> 01:10:00,820
and the Bitter Sweet Symphony needle drop with a damn knife.

751
01:10:03,180 --> 01:10:07,180
And then this is the fourth one from Erin, five stars.

752
01:10:07,180 --> 01:10:09,300
Sarah, Michelle, Geller, I would take a bullet for you.

753
01:10:09,300 --> 01:10:10,620
No questions asked.

754
01:10:13,860 --> 01:10:17,300
Ivy Walk says go to soundtrack, five stars.

755
01:10:19,500 --> 01:10:23,660
And let's do maybe one or two from Google reviews,

756
01:10:23,660 --> 01:10:25,340
which are also very good.

757
01:10:26,660 --> 01:10:29,780
Brandon T. Blackwell, five stars.

758
01:10:29,780 --> 01:10:32,180
I thought it would be your standard teen rom-com

759
01:10:32,180 --> 01:10:34,980
based on the trailer, but I was deeply mistaken.

760
01:10:34,980 --> 01:10:37,500
The film is much better than expected.

761
01:10:37,500 --> 01:10:39,500
The story of a pair of rich scumbags

762
01:10:39,500 --> 01:10:41,500
who eventually turned against each other.

763
01:10:41,500 --> 01:10:43,300
Once one finds true love,

764
01:10:43,300 --> 01:10:46,500
really had lots of thought and soul put into it.

765
01:10:46,500 --> 01:10:48,100
The musical choice and camera angles

766
01:10:48,100 --> 01:10:49,660
helped bring out the film's character

767
01:10:49,660 --> 01:10:52,700
and the Bitter Sweet Symphony song at the end was perfect.

768
01:10:52,700 --> 01:10:56,740
The characters of Sebastian, Catherine, Amanda,

769
01:10:56,740 --> 01:11:01,300
Cecile and Ronald also did outstanding jobs as well.

770
01:11:02,660 --> 01:11:03,500
Very nice.

771
01:11:04,820 --> 01:11:09,060
We'll do one more from Riri Marie, five stars.

772
01:11:09,060 --> 01:11:11,380
I love this movie so much.

773
01:11:11,380 --> 01:11:15,100
It really is like what I am most interested in for movies.

774
01:11:15,100 --> 01:11:17,020
I found it because I was trying to find enemies

775
01:11:17,020 --> 01:11:19,940
to lovers movies and it was suggested.

776
01:11:19,940 --> 01:11:22,220
It seemed good, so I watch it and I love it a lot.

777
01:11:22,220 --> 01:11:24,900
Also, I saw a review about how it's the modern day

778
01:11:25,900 --> 01:11:29,140
modern day of dangerous liaisons and I love that movie.

779
01:11:29,140 --> 01:11:32,100
So it's like my favorite movie ever, Death That.

780
01:11:32,100 --> 01:11:35,860
My fault, dangerous liaisons are my tops.

781
01:11:35,860 --> 01:11:37,940
I definitely recommend to watch

782
01:11:37,940 --> 01:11:40,020
and Sebastian is one fine man.

783
01:11:40,020 --> 01:11:42,780
I wasn't a big fan of the ending, but it was still good.

784
01:11:46,220 --> 01:11:47,380
Riri Marie.

785
01:11:47,380 --> 01:11:48,220
Oh, good.

786
01:11:48,220 --> 01:11:49,660
Riri Marie.

787
01:11:50,940 --> 01:11:51,940
Okay, one more, sorry.

788
01:11:51,940 --> 01:11:55,500
And then we'll, this is a Jay Kazami, five stars.

789
01:11:55,500 --> 01:11:58,100
The best modern day version of dangerous liaisons.

790
01:11:58,100 --> 01:11:59,740
I love the movie so much.

791
01:11:59,740 --> 01:12:02,260
Tonight was my first time watching it again.

792
01:12:03,780 --> 01:12:04,940
Jesus Christ.

793
01:12:05,860 --> 01:12:08,580
Tonight was my first time watching it again.

794
01:12:08,580 --> 01:12:11,100
Since the last time I watched it as a kid.

795
01:12:11,100 --> 01:12:13,700
Even though I'm not used to seeing Sarah Michelle Geller

796
01:12:13,700 --> 01:12:16,260
play a villain, villainess, she played the part

797
01:12:16,260 --> 01:12:20,860
well as Catherine Mertuli is how he spelled it

798
01:12:20,860 --> 01:12:22,900
and looked absolutely stunning.

799
01:12:22,900 --> 01:12:24,860
Reese Witherspoon, Ryan Philippe, Samo Blair

800
01:12:24,860 --> 01:12:26,940
and the entire cast did a fantastic job.

801
01:12:26,940 --> 01:12:28,740
Overall, this movie is fantastic.

802
01:12:29,740 --> 01:12:33,820
I am inclined to disagree myself,

803
01:12:33,820 --> 01:12:37,680
but these reviews between the critics and audiences,

804
01:12:39,340 --> 01:12:43,660
I think is exactly what we're here for as this podcast.

805
01:12:43,660 --> 01:12:46,260
This is a movie that was important,

806
01:12:46,260 --> 01:12:48,180
very important at a time.

807
01:12:48,180 --> 01:12:49,500
It was.

808
01:12:49,500 --> 01:12:52,460
Two young people at the time that it came out,

809
01:12:52,460 --> 01:12:56,020
which that's such an important audience in culture,

810
01:12:56,020 --> 01:12:58,500
pop culture, everything moving forward.

811
01:12:58,500 --> 01:13:00,060
And for them to deem it important,

812
01:13:00,060 --> 01:13:01,420
there was something at that time

813
01:13:01,420 --> 01:13:04,060
that they were tapping into.

814
01:13:04,060 --> 01:13:07,380
And it's interesting to see something just not hold up

815
01:13:07,380 --> 01:13:11,780
well at all for it to be so important at the time

816
01:13:11,780 --> 01:13:15,580
and for it to really fall flat on me today.

817
01:13:15,580 --> 01:13:19,780
There are elements of it that I can see be inspired

818
01:13:19,780 --> 01:13:21,540
into other movies of today,

819
01:13:21,540 --> 01:13:23,900
like we mentioned Salt Burn many times,

820
01:13:24,820 --> 01:13:28,220
that does not make it as a whole good,

821
01:13:28,220 --> 01:13:30,900
but it's cool to know that there's aspects of it

822
01:13:30,900 --> 01:13:34,860
that other filmmakers and other artists have found

823
01:13:34,860 --> 01:13:39,660
that were relevant at the time that it was made,

824
01:13:39,660 --> 01:13:42,740
that they could pull from and make relevant again today

825
01:13:42,740 --> 01:13:46,940
to know that it has value in that way is pretty cool.

826
01:13:46,940 --> 01:13:50,780
And so it's not going to be like a zero from me personally,

827
01:13:50,780 --> 01:13:52,660
but it's not going to be much higher.

828
01:13:52,660 --> 01:13:57,460
I think it deserves some of that,

829
01:13:57,460 --> 01:13:59,500
just for style and for style,

830
01:13:59,500 --> 01:14:01,860
I'd say it would be a little of a soundtrack

831
01:14:01,860 --> 01:14:05,860
to be so current at the time in terms of music

832
01:14:05,860 --> 01:14:09,660
is important to be cool.

833
01:14:09,660 --> 01:14:11,660
And I can see why people thought it was really cool

834
01:14:11,660 --> 01:14:15,500
at the time, young, sexy actors and actresses

835
01:14:15,500 --> 01:14:20,500
being sexy on screen and taking part in sexy plans

836
01:14:21,540 --> 01:14:26,540
of sexy espionage, sexy politics.

837
01:14:27,380 --> 01:14:30,740
I can see why it was the taboo thing at the time

838
01:14:30,740 --> 01:14:34,060
and why kids would want to,

839
01:14:34,060 --> 01:14:38,060
teenagers especially would want to take part in it,

840
01:14:38,060 --> 01:14:42,060
but it does not hold up and things like Scream

841
01:14:42,060 --> 01:14:43,340
or I know what you did last summer,

842
01:14:43,340 --> 01:14:46,500
other things that these people have taken part in

843
01:14:46,500 --> 01:14:49,260
are something that's a little more fun to jump into

844
01:14:49,260 --> 01:14:51,380
if you're looking for something that's like an heirloom

845
01:14:51,380 --> 01:14:55,140
of the 90s that has all the style and everything,

846
01:14:55,140 --> 01:14:57,060
but also is kind of fun to watch.

847
01:14:57,060 --> 01:14:58,740
This has just the style.

848
01:14:58,740 --> 01:14:59,820
It is not fun to watch.

849
01:14:59,820 --> 01:15:02,020
It is not an enjoyable movie.

850
01:15:03,060 --> 01:15:07,540
It is purely some of those little trappings

851
01:15:07,540 --> 01:15:12,260
that make it almost palatable, almost,

852
01:15:12,260 --> 01:15:13,700
but it's not, it's bad.

853
01:15:13,700 --> 01:15:18,700
And I think it veers on 20% for me, but not quite.

854
01:15:19,020 --> 01:15:22,580
So I'll do like an 18, do an 18%

855
01:15:22,580 --> 01:15:25,100
because that seems to be the age of the people here.

856
01:15:26,100 --> 01:15:27,420
Good, good.

857
01:15:29,900 --> 01:15:31,820
I went ahead and gave my review.

858
01:15:31,820 --> 01:15:37,820
So I will pass it on to old brandy over here.

859
01:15:37,820 --> 01:15:40,220
This movie is not good at all.

860
01:15:40,220 --> 01:15:42,740
Like this is not an enjoyable movie.

861
01:15:42,740 --> 01:15:44,340
Like it's totally understandable

862
01:15:44,340 --> 01:15:46,020
that you would give it that score.

863
01:15:46,020 --> 01:15:48,500
I mean, when coming into this conversation,

864
01:15:48,500 --> 01:15:50,980
I was thinking about like 20%.

865
01:15:50,980 --> 01:15:52,940
Like for you.

866
01:15:52,940 --> 01:15:55,660
So for you to hit that like makes sense to me

867
01:15:55,660 --> 01:15:59,220
because this isn't interesting at all.

868
01:15:59,220 --> 01:16:03,620
And it is fashionably somewhat interesting.

869
01:16:03,620 --> 01:16:05,780
I think if you're into fashion,

870
01:16:05,780 --> 01:16:08,540
maybe go with this movie a little bit,

871
01:16:08,540 --> 01:16:11,220
but overall, like this movie sucks ass.

872
01:16:11,220 --> 01:16:15,420
Like it just doesn't give a shit about.

873
01:16:17,460 --> 01:16:20,700
It doesn't give a shit about talking about something

874
01:16:20,700 --> 01:16:24,460
that's like interesting in the world that it's in.

875
01:16:24,460 --> 01:16:27,540
Okay, so how do I say this?

876
01:16:27,540 --> 01:16:37,020
Is it blows my mind how uninterested it is to make common,

877
01:16:37,020 --> 01:16:39,140
like make really biting commentary,

878
01:16:39,140 --> 01:16:43,980
like really funny and interesting commentary on the bourgeoisie.

879
01:16:43,980 --> 01:16:48,660
And what it cares about is the plot of it all

880
01:16:48,660 --> 01:16:52,460
and the plot of it isn't sexy or interesting.

881
01:16:52,460 --> 01:16:58,100
And so crazy to just take a potentially,

882
01:16:58,100 --> 01:17:01,700
I don't know, something that would be.

883
01:17:01,700 --> 01:17:08,140
I don't know, would fuel more of this weird sexual energy

884
01:17:08,140 --> 01:17:11,100
that that period of time had.

885
01:17:11,100 --> 01:17:16,140
But this movie thinks that it's doing that and it's not.

886
01:17:16,140 --> 01:17:19,100
No, this is a bad movie.

887
01:17:19,100 --> 01:17:21,820
People shouldn't really see it.

888
01:17:21,820 --> 01:17:23,900
I'm going to give it a 25 percent.

889
01:17:23,900 --> 01:17:25,020
That's where I'm at.

890
01:17:25,020 --> 01:17:27,100
Like this movie sucks.

891
01:17:27,100 --> 01:17:30,580
Yeah, that's it's same range.

892
01:17:30,580 --> 01:17:35,100
And I was I had to like get up and walk around multiple times

893
01:17:35,100 --> 01:17:35,780
watching the movie.

894
01:17:35,780 --> 01:17:39,300
I was just so frustrated with it and just kind of like I had

895
01:17:39,300 --> 01:17:42,900
like my hands on my hips and just be like bad movie.

896
01:17:42,900 --> 01:17:43,980
Yeah, it's a bad movie.

897
01:17:43,980 --> 01:17:46,100
It's a bad movie.

898
01:17:46,100 --> 01:17:50,860
But also I'm glad I watch it just to like know what that's about.

899
01:17:50,860 --> 01:17:52,780
And I can this was fun, James.

900
01:17:52,780 --> 01:17:53,820
And I can move on.

901
01:17:53,820 --> 01:17:54,780
This was fun.

902
01:17:54,780 --> 01:17:57,460
If you have a podcast, you're looking for a movie to talk about.

903
01:17:57,460 --> 01:18:00,780
Right. This is the one.

904
01:18:00,780 --> 01:18:05,340
I enjoyed talking to you about this because I it's like this

905
01:18:05,340 --> 01:18:09,740
movie happened in a vacuum until we did talk about it.

906
01:18:09,740 --> 01:18:15,100
And in a vacuum, I was like, wow, this is really such a shitty movie.

907
01:18:16,580 --> 01:18:18,460
And we've watched another team movie together.

908
01:18:18,460 --> 01:18:20,660
So to see the the origin.

909
01:18:20,660 --> 01:18:21,940
I like none of those.

910
01:18:21,940 --> 01:18:23,780
Yeah, none to movies.

911
01:18:23,780 --> 01:18:27,540
Funny, I know, because that that's like the combination of never been

912
01:18:27,540 --> 01:18:32,180
kissed with this movie because it like takes the never been kissed joke

913
01:18:32,180 --> 01:18:36,900
and like makes her not an older like 30 year old woman, but like a 70

914
01:18:36,900 --> 01:18:40,740
to 80 year old woman that goes back to school and it takes that woman

915
01:18:40,740 --> 01:18:41,940
and puts her with it.

916
01:18:41,940 --> 01:18:47,540
So it's come out and all this like one little spit strand in this

917
01:18:47,540 --> 01:18:52,820
movie was enough to create the parody of like spit strands all over

918
01:18:52,820 --> 01:18:56,820
their faces and that's where I started coming into this one.

919
01:18:56,820 --> 01:19:00,180
So if you think I can't handle sexual humor, I can.

920
01:19:00,180 --> 01:19:01,820
And this is not it.

921
01:19:01,820 --> 01:19:02,700
Love it.

922
01:19:02,700 --> 01:19:05,460
No, we love sexual humor.

923
01:19:05,460 --> 01:19:08,980
Like that's the problem with this movie is that it's sexual humor.

924
01:19:08,980 --> 01:19:10,460
So yeah, it's bad.

925
01:19:10,460 --> 01:19:15,100
It's like to be do be it's offensive and poopy do be soupy.

926
01:19:15,100 --> 01:19:20,780
Yeah, like we love sex and we want honestly, like that's what was so fun

927
01:19:20,780 --> 01:19:24,420
about like so we haven't done this podcast of talk about movies.

928
01:19:24,420 --> 01:19:25,580
We've you know.

929
01:19:25,580 --> 01:19:27,580
It's like.

930
01:19:27,580 --> 01:19:33,100
There's a place for sex and movies like as adults, like you like sex.

931
01:19:33,100 --> 01:19:34,660
Like it's it's fun.

932
01:19:34,660 --> 01:19:40,020
It's interesting and some movies do that really well, but this movie

933
01:19:40,020 --> 01:19:44,900
doesn't do that well and it wants to do that well and it's not doing it

934
01:19:44,900 --> 01:19:48,580
well. So it's a poopy do be stupid movie. Right.

935
01:19:48,580 --> 01:19:51,940
It's necessary for it to do well because that's what its whole thing is.

936
01:19:51,940 --> 01:19:54,260
And it it's not as sexy as you think it is.

937
01:19:54,260 --> 01:19:55,940
Maybe at the time.

938
01:19:55,940 --> 01:19:59,500
Well, it's it's it's edging the entire time.

939
01:19:59,500 --> 01:20:05,660
The entire movie is like edging towards its goal and it doesn't even get there.

940
01:20:05,660 --> 01:20:11,100
And I know like it's a little bit sexier than 50 Shades of Gray.

941
01:20:11,100 --> 01:20:12,580
But I just watched that one recently.

942
01:20:12,580 --> 01:20:16,060
And that one was like frustratingly not sexy.

943
01:20:16,060 --> 01:20:21,100
It's so upsetting to like sign up for something and be like, I want to get like

944
01:20:21,100 --> 01:20:22,420
maybe you don't even want to get turned on.

945
01:20:22,420 --> 01:20:26,020
You just like, but like, I know that like that's there to play for that side of

946
01:20:26,020 --> 01:20:29,060
that your girlfriend might happen life or whatever.

947
01:20:29,260 --> 01:20:32,700
Like watching movies like who knows?

948
01:20:32,700 --> 01:20:34,980
Like watching sexy movies is awesome.

949
01:20:35,220 --> 01:20:38,300
You should know that that's like a side effect that should happen.

950
01:20:38,300 --> 01:20:41,740
And the fact that it doesn't happen is frustrating.

951
01:20:41,740 --> 01:20:43,620
And like it sucks.

952
01:20:44,060 --> 01:20:47,700
It really sucks that there's a couple of moments like him like

953
01:20:47,700 --> 01:20:51,900
Fleeping her like being like trying to like get at each other.

954
01:20:51,900 --> 01:20:55,700
Maybe. But and then like maybe the cello lesson.

955
01:20:55,700 --> 01:21:01,580
Maybe. But for a movie that is so like grounded on like it should be sexually

956
01:21:01,580 --> 01:21:05,780
tantalizing at the very least for it to not get there.

957
01:21:05,780 --> 01:21:08,980
You know, is is an entitlement on the movie.

958
01:21:08,980 --> 01:21:14,380
It is rough, but speaking of sexual movies, let us reveal our next movie

959
01:21:14,700 --> 01:21:18,180
for our next discussion now that this one is gone so very well.

960
01:21:18,180 --> 01:21:19,740
And you guys are still here with us.

961
01:21:19,740 --> 01:21:21,300
Thank you so much.

962
01:21:21,300 --> 01:21:23,900
Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no.

963
01:21:23,900 --> 01:21:26,380
Kisses, kisses, kisses.

964
01:21:26,380 --> 01:21:29,380
A very sexual movie as well.

965
01:21:29,860 --> 01:21:36,460
Anchorman to the legend continues certified fresh by critics.

966
01:21:36,460 --> 01:21:41,860
Seventy four percent, a fifty two percent, not so great by the audience.

967
01:21:42,340 --> 01:21:44,620
It's a polarizing comedy.

968
01:21:44,620 --> 01:21:47,820
So you're either going to laugh or you're going to be like, P.U.

969
01:21:47,860 --> 01:21:50,100
Poopy doopy snoopy.

970
01:21:50,100 --> 01:21:52,500
We're going to find out next time on our discussion.

971
01:21:53,540 --> 01:21:55,500
It's a sequel to a comedy, folks.

972
01:21:55,500 --> 01:21:57,900
It's it's going to be it's going to be interesting.

973
01:21:58,900 --> 01:22:01,940
We were trying to decide if cruel intentions to would be OK.

974
01:22:01,940 --> 01:22:05,580
But, you know, it turns out that that one's probably even worse than this one.

975
01:22:05,580 --> 01:22:07,660
So we decided to opt out.

976
01:22:07,660 --> 01:22:11,180
But there are not only one there's not only one sequel,

977
01:22:11,180 --> 01:22:13,340
but I believe that's the third cruel intentions as well.

978
01:22:13,340 --> 01:22:17,580
We'll we'll report back if we ever end up you jumping into that.

979
01:22:17,580 --> 01:22:22,420
But for next week, it will be Anchorman to it will be your trusty co-host,

980
01:22:22,420 --> 01:22:27,220
the great brandini and the James here with you.

981
01:22:27,700 --> 01:22:33,020
This has been Cruel Intentions, a legendary episode from the polarized pod

982
01:22:33,020 --> 01:22:38,420
back at the hottest around hottest up around definitely hotter than Cruel Intentions.

983
01:22:38,420 --> 01:22:43,700
I promise you because after that it wanted it.

984
01:22:43,700 --> 01:22:46,820
I went into a sexual Ice Age after this movie.

985
01:22:49,020 --> 01:22:52,940
Anything else from you, Brandini, before we shuffle off into

986
01:22:55,220 --> 01:22:57,820
no next venture together?

987
01:22:57,820 --> 01:23:02,620
All I'm saying is don't let us get into a sexual Ice Age.

988
01:23:05,020 --> 01:23:06,940
You would not want that.

989
01:23:06,940 --> 01:23:11,660
Anchorman, you will make sure that sex panther will be there to help us through.

990
01:23:13,500 --> 01:23:13,940
I'm not sure.

991
01:23:13,940 --> 01:23:17,540
I guess it doesn't make a reprise and Anchorman to you.

992
01:23:17,540 --> 01:23:19,660
But you know what does is a shark.

993
01:23:21,780 --> 01:23:23,900
But yeah, and I'm so excited for that.

994
01:23:24,180 --> 01:23:25,460
This has been polarized.

995
01:23:25,460 --> 01:23:27,940
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996
01:23:27,940 --> 01:23:33,340
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997
01:23:33,340 --> 01:23:37,460
And I think it's on Spotify maybe now to wherever you get your podcast.

998
01:23:37,460 --> 01:23:40,660
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999
01:23:41,500 --> 01:23:44,620
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1000
01:23:44,620 --> 01:23:47,500
We love it.

1001
01:23:47,500 --> 01:23:50,780
Apart from that, this has been polarized pod.

1002
01:23:50,780 --> 01:23:51,900
This has been the James.

1003
01:23:51,900 --> 01:23:53,940
This has been the great brandini.

1004
01:23:53,940 --> 01:23:55,860
And we'll see you next time.

1005
01:23:55,860 --> 01:23:57,980
Yeah, brandini anything else?

1006
01:24:00,020 --> 01:24:00,620
No.

1007
01:24:01,460 --> 01:24:02,020
Audio.

1008
01:24:02,020 --> 01:24:23,260
Bye.