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There's only a few things that I really care about in my life.

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My body, my pad, my ride, my family, amen, my church, my boys, my girls, and my podcast.

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Welcome everybody to the polarized podcast.

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Happy to have you here.

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We're, I mean, you saw the title, you know what it's about.

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We're talking Don John today.

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I couldn't help myself.

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I couldn't help myself.

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Uh, we, I had to intro the movie like our intro of the podcast.

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Like the, we intro the movie.

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Um, this is polarized podcast.

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This is a podcast about polarizing movies, which this be one of them.

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Uh, that means sometimes audience love and critics hated or vice versa.

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This is the one of them.

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Yarr.

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You just be one of them.

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You're her.

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Me.

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D.

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You best start believing in ghost stories because you're in one.

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Polarizing movies.

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Movies.

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Cause you're in one.

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Scary.

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John baby.

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Let's go.

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Um, this is 80% critics.

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58 stinky, uh, on the audience side of things.

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Uh, yeah, we talked about polarizing movies here today.

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We're talking about Don John.

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This is a, the 2013, uh, directorial debut of JGL, um, starring himself, uh, Scarlett

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Johansson, Julian Moran, Tony Danza, and I'll say Glenn Henley too.

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Uh, she's pretty great.

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The mother and, uh, one of the very first performances of, uh, a Brie Larson, uh, who

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goes on to have somewhat of a career.

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Um, not somewhat of one.

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I'm great.

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You know, so far a great career.

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Marred by some controversy.

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Not just a Brie career, but a Gouda career.

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Okay.

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So let's get it.

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So it's not just, obviously it's not just me talking to you here, that other voice

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in the, uh, that's chiming in and rightfully so.

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Cause there, this movie is goofy.

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We're talking.

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It's my right.

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Get used to it.

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It's your right.

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Uh, as I said, I'm the one who suggested this movie and I'm really interested to talk

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to my, uh, co-host.

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He also referred to him as the forever guest.

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Um, I'm going to intro now, uh, Mr.

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James Lindsay, how's it going?

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I'm a feature.

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I'm featuring on the episode and I'm here again.

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Uh, welcome back everyone to the polarize pod and welcome to the Don Brandini show,

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baby.

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Yes.

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Yes.

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That is a, you can appropriately named aptly named the Don Brandini.

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I go by many names and Don Brandini now is just, uh, put, uh, put itself on the list.

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I'm collecting them.

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You're collecting them.

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Yeah.

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I am.

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Uh, yeah.

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I also go by the great brandini, uh, the breezy brandini, the, uh, yeah, I don't know the

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man, the mystery of the brandini, you know, those kinds of things.

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Um, but yeah, James.

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Hey, how's it going?

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Oh, I didn't see you there.

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I didn't see you there.

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I was trying to think of like other, uh, JGL directorial soft morrick efforts.

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Cause I don't, I don't know any after this one.

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What else is there?

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No, there's not.

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No, uh, not, no.

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Cause this also kind of torpedoes his career as well.

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Um, so even though I feel like there's going to be some times in which I am to say, like

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on the, on this movie side, um, upon this, uh, I would say probably this is my fifth

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rewatch of this movie.

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Cause I used to show people this movie.

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Um, and like, yeah.

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There have been many times where I'm like, Oh, let's watch this movie because it's pretty

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easy, breezy.

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All things considered, right?

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like four tight 84, like you're kind of in and out.

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It was like, it says hour and a half, but that's including credits.

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I was like, Oh, it's exactly hour and a half.

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Hell yeah.

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And I was like, Oh, that's including like six minutes of credits.

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Dude, totally right?

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Like it doesn't have, you know,

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I'm sorry, no, no, no, please.

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I mean, you have, you have just some, it's still took two, two settings for me.

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I couldn't finish the hour and a half movie in one set.

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It's hard to launch cause, uh, you know, anybody who's listening to this episode,

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go listen to our fountain episode where, um, no, this isn't a revenge.

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Hate.

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Hate at all.

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The reason I only bring that up is cause I sell, you know, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I,

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More often than not, like we have a somewhat of a diplomatic like back and forth

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about what movies to pick, but there are some movies that were like,

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I would like to do this.

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You know what I mean?

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And that's the only thing I'm saying that really let's be honest, uh,

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lesbianhek, um,

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Don John would say that you are don Brandini Brandini.

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I think with like, polarizing movies, it was inevitable that we were going to get

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some movies that we are passionate one way or the other.

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A lot of times we're we're in the middle, which is like middle.

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A lot of the time, a lot of like 80 percent.

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Sometimes it feels like a cop out, but it's really just how I feel about a lot of things.

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It's like, oh, it's pretty good.

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They spent all this time and effort into making it.

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It's like it's pretty good.

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And then for it to be like really great takes a lot more and for it to be really bad.

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It takes a takes a whole lot of something too.

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So for us to feel passionate one way or the other takes a lot.

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And then even then, I feel like it's likely that we're both holding hands

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on the negative or positive.

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But for us to be opposed or some special apps, I think they're they're fun,

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which I feel like we're already we're getting there a little bit.

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Because this is my first time seeing it.

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I remember seeing the trailer at the time.

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And I do remember you telling me that you liked this movie

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like when it came out and I should check it out.

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But I never got around to it.

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Yeah, and I'm trying to think if like my twenty three year old brain

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might have liked it more than I've been into it.

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I like a little bit more.

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What I like to do more.

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But also I could see it being yeah, forgettable as well, even at that time.

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Well, I don't know. But what was so you wanted to like show people?

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Do you have a couple like fun viewing memories of this movie?

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Because I remember we had like Jersey Shore parties,

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not to bring it into the Jersey Shore.

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No, I was glad you brought.

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We had Jersey Shore nights and we all brought red wine, like box wine.

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And we got trashy and watched Jersey Shore.

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And that was a lot of fun in college.

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Absolutely. I'm so glad you brought that up because that's obviously the.

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Persona JGL is affecting here.

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Is this hyper masculine?

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And what he conceives as the wrong

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stare like the wrong stereotype being propagated by popular media?

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It's just interesting because.

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This is later than that.

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So it's just it's something that was sticking around with him for

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quite a bit of time, but nonetheless, like this little.

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His his his character here is very much of that.

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A Jersey Shore type of persona where this person is like their whole

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identity is wrapped up in things that are.

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Worth critiquing because they are in opposition to a more.

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Like, if you were to be more critical of your life and go, what matters in life?

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It isn't these things that you own, or the perception of yourself,

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It's how well you love.

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And he has an issue with loving because he is so like, I need to be seen as cool.

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I need to be seen as fucking.

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I need to be seen as a good son, you know, a good boyfriend, whatever.

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we watched it like how it's like watching.

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Any reality television is people when given carte blanche to just go, you know, we want

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you to be as crazy as you can be.

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That's the type of persona that ends up shaping itself is somebody that is all about their

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looks and has.

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And it's like very little depth.

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It's like all you're doing is drinking and you're fucking like a cave person, essentially.

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Yeah, the character is propped up that way.

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And he's definitely very concerned about image.

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And I think they get that first part across well as far as like who this guy is.

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it's because it is very much that.

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Yes, very much so to the point where Danza and him are wearing identical like matching

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like Italian, Italian American sort of fucking.

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Oh, yeah, my feet are ATC belts and boots and you know, tuck it in and they take their

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shirts off at dinner is so funny to me because I love that is I think that's such a funny

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thing that families could potentially do because again, I don't know for certain.

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And I don't want to now after seeing this for like at this point in my life because

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there's been a long gap between the two.

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That's also builds into the excitement that I have for this conversation is that when

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it first came out, I was really, really about it, mainly from the way that it looks at pornography,

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which we'll get into.

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I think it's really interesting, especially how ahead of the curve in my mind.

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It is to the incel red pilling movement that is now prominent online is there's a lot of

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men who are anti porn, then become anti women and then become really radicalized on certain

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ideas because then they just start getting filtered into this.

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Like, why doesn't anybody love me now?

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This group loves me in order to be loved by this group, then I need to be this person.

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That's where I feel like you're giving the movie a little too much credit in my mind

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because that's where I wanted it to go was more into that that kind of stuff and in some

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other different way, because when I'm saying like, yeah, earlier with that beginning of

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that sense was like, you get to get that first part right of like who this guy is, but they

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don't have anything to really like say about it or say about him as in my opinion, that

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like very little and it comes kind of like right at the end and the moment with Julian

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more in him not to jump too far ahead is kind of no, no, no, no, it's kind of the big change

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for him because he is like, like you're saying this guy who's like needs if he doesn't have

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it all figured out, you at least has to portray that outwardly to the people around him because

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that's what matters a lot is the age and at least what people think of him, even if some

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of that stuff may not be true, as we find out that he you know, he actually does need

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other things than he lists in the movie.

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But I just think that the movie would have been much more interesting if it had a commentary

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on that a little bit more of a commentary on that.

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And I think what you brought up right there would have been an excellent place to go or

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even if you wanted to go into the more transformative route with him or more humor or I'm not sure

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it just there seemed like a lot of lazy choices for me.

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But you mentioned the porn aspect of it and that that was something that caught you when

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you first watched it.

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And yeah, I was just wanted I was curious for you to like, if you want to expand more

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on that because you said that that was something that drew you to it.

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Yeah, like it's depiction of that.

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Because I think that's something that yeah, for me, like it does that in a way that's

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a lot of I can't think of a lot of other movies that portray in yeah, in male loneliness in

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this way.

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But then he's like he enjoys it more than sex.

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So that that was an interesting dynamic of his character.

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But was that part of it for you or just having that?

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I just I recognized in college, especially being a part of multiple social circles like

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Porn is becoming more readily available and it is influencing the way that people can

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see relationships if they don't educate themselves or like maybe not educate themselves, but

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like keep themselves grounded in reality.

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You know what I mean?

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Like it's just and porn is one thing and it's an easy thing to go to.

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Because I don't want to chastise porn and I don't think the people making this movie

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are anti porn.

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Like I I don't get that sense.

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But what they're saying is is like it's.

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Porn like the way that people could consume porn is very can has a lot of similarities

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to now a lot of modern ills is like every there's so many things are so easily accessible

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that you can just indulge in them all the time and you can lose your sense of reality

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in it because it will become your reality because you're just able to consume it every

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day.

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So if something exists every day for you, it's your reality.

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Right?

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And I I found it very interesting that it is just making a stance by an actress that

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I respect the shit out of who does at least communicates the the things that you should

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think about in order to unpill yourself essentially from a reality that isn't actual like real

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the real reality.

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There's like, you know what I mean?

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Like there's a like people build up in themselves, you know, a reality that doesn't exist, I

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guess, and it's hard for me to I don't know the terminologies for this psychologically,

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but like now because you can live online a personality that personality will become you

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and then once it becomes you, it's a reality.

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And that doesn't necessarily mean that it's true like based in facts.

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It's just based in, you know, facts in that they exist there.

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But are they really good for you or they true?

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Is almost beside the point.

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And I just find this movie is like.

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And what it's kind of what it's trying to say at the end event, really interesting.

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Yeah, that was the most interesting part was Julie, some up at the end for sure.

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And her kind of dressing him down.

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And that is absolutely what the movie feels as well as her is what her character tells

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him at the end, because yeah, it's not championing Scar Joe and in the movie, if anything, it's

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showing how toxic and incompatible their relationship is, which can happen to anybody

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is that you just like your priorities and your needs don't line up and they're not

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treating each other well.

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And then, you know, there's on the outside looking in of this movie, I see the arc of

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him moving on to Julian more and then having just accepting that's an easy breezy thing.

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But like you're saying, that really comes together at the end and up until then it is

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this routine, which I think when you discuss reality, I think his routine is the makeup

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of them and that's the buildup of that reality that he's constructed for himself and that

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convenience and that ability to, yeah, make these or use something like that that quick

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and easy is turns out to be ends up being kind of selfish and borderline.

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I don't know, narcissistic wouldn't be the word, but just yeah, just like so so like

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and Julian were to tell him to tell him like you don't give anything to anybody and you

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expect everything in return and that at least was borderlining on something that I was interested

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in the movie getting more into and it's a shame that it took so long.

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I feel like to get there because there's a lot of time spent with him and Scar Joe and

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him trying to hide his porn addiction to her into the church or just trying to work through

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that with with the father, the church with the father.

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Yeah.

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So yeah, you want to break down the list and talk about all this.

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At least Scar Joe.

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I mean, Scar Joe.

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Yeah, I would love to James.

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Yeah.

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That's what you do every day to you.

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Don Brandy Don Braun Don.

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You betcha.

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Scar Joe is is solid to as far as like the Jersey accent goes.

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She isn't too too shabby at making it fun and like wearing us.

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Yeah, she's good.

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Costumes are pretty crazy.

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But you know, she wears a leather jacket and everything.

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It's it's that she's she's cute and fun.

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And it's like she's having having a good enough time and making it somewhat lived in.

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And then there's JGL.

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But what do you feel about Scar Joe and the rest of the cast?

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You could talk a little bit about the cast.

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No, no, no.

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Yeah.

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But I get what you mean is like JGL is trying a lot harder than Scar Joe is to affect like

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and we've talked about this with I like I always am really kind of hurt by which is

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so funny because she's in this movie.

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What's her?

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No, no, no.

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In Hathaway.

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Oh, yeah, she is in this movie.

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It's so funny to me that in Hathaway is the like idealistic or like the representation

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of film love.

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Right, which is compares to pornography for women is essentially what for women.

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Yeah.

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Oh, yeah, absolutely.

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Which how do you feel about that statement?

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No, because romance is and as with porn, I guess could could be just it's non binary.

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You know, it's it's all it's all a matter of preference.

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I guess is like one for the other.

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And I've and I'm definitely one to enjoy a good romantic drawler.

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Me too.

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Absolutely.

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I feel I feel more inclined to reject because I want some of that too for myself.

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I want some romantic comedy joy as well.

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It's it's yeah, I watched even I tried to watch 50 Shades recently to this whole side

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tangent, but damn, it's that was like, oh, made me so upset when it's trying to be so

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sexy.

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This is in a different sort of way and a much more masculine sort of way.

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That's trying that one's trying to please the female gaze, which is like something that's

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much needed in movies as well.

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And that was and it sucks for it to fail so so bad.

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But this is very much.

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Yeah, about masculinity.

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And I wanted to get more into the toxic side of that as well.

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Like like him for him to be an asshole, but he ends up getting with Scarjo and they're

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kind of just assholes to each other.

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Which is what the comeuppance is, right?

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It's like it's the idea that he like she is as equal in the sense of being so.

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Interested in the what you're supposed to be like what the ideal is, you know.

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Like she he, which is to Scarjo's real credit, like she meets him at being the person who

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is that like smoke show, but is not really that interested in.

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Wanting to like she wants to change him to his ideals, right?

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She wants to own him.

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Yeah, absolutely.

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She like wants to own him as property and all.

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But she's also wants him to be exactly like she thinks a man should be.

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Right.

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And he feels the same way about that.

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It's like he wants in his mind.

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There's a role in yes, the fill, which is a.

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And there's a role he feels that she has to fill that she's not fulfilling as well.

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And it's just weird and uncomfortable to have those like lines of monologuing where he's

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talking about like doggy style sucks, you know, and girls don't want to necessarily.

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Oh, he likes mission.

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No, he he likes doggy style.

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He doesn't like.

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He's like that's right.

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But they like.

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Yeah, right.

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Yeah.

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And it's all of that to me is so interesting because.

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GGL does understand that this movie is satire and there is.

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Finn is so thin, but it's trying to be, I know.

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Right.

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Absolutely.

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To just kind of backpedal a little bit is to talk about GGL where he's at is like this

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movie also kind of ends a very strong run of his.

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Yeah.

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When is this?

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Is this after inception and like Dark Knight rises and shit?

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Oh, yeah.

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Yeah.

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Absolutely.

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He was hot shit and then he did the hit record show after this.

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He'd been doing hit records before all of that.

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Okay.

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Gotcha.

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I remember like came to like a more prime time maybe viewing.

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Yes, it did.

383
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Oh, sure.

384
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That's true.

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Yeah, but in a big, big way.

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But he started hit record in 2005 because his brother who passed away was really into

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this idea.

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So he just always kept with it.

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And it was like an online thing.

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And then it became like a show like on streaming, right?

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This one I.

392
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Oh, YouTube, like YouTube something.

393
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Okay.

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Gotcha.

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And it was all pure created content that would kind of come in.

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Yeah.

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And I would jump, I would jump into that every now and then and check it out.

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And it was like, it was a, it was a very earnest, honest, sincere concept from someone who wants

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nothing more than to be creative and to practice that creativity in like a public space.

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And much like Anne Hathaway, sometimes it's a little much to be the audience in those

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circumstances.

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You're like happy for him.

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Go, hey, go get him, JGL.

404
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Go get, you know, but sometimes it's like, ah, it's a little much, a little much to watch.

405
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It's like anybody.

406
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Yeah.

407
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It's like any.

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Anybody.

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Good.

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Kind of a friend who is a, um, like a feeder major and.

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Hey, it was almost me.

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It was almost you.

413
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Yeah, for sure.

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Um, but you know what I mean?

415
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It's like there are certain theater majors that are like a lot.

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Damn.

417
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Yeah.

418
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Oh yeah.

419
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I was in that role there.

420
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They're a lot.

421
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Oh yeah.

422
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It's so performative and so like exuding this need to be seen and through their creativity.

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I don't want to, I'm not trying to demean anybody who is a theater major.

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I'm sorry.

425
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Oh, no, they'd be the first to admit, I'm sure.

426
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I'm sure.

427
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But yeah, like there, there's just that.

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And that's why upon this viewing, it was very noticeable about the accent and about this

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persona JGL is affecting, which is incredibly distracting.

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This viewing where I'm like, my God, this is just a person who's seen a New Jersey person

431
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on TV like watched, you know, it's an impression of the situation.

432
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It's right.

433
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It's like, it feels very much like impression, impressionistic of, of doing like the big things

434
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that'll get you, get you through, but it's not, I don't know.

435
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It was kind of insufferable to watch him a lot.

436
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Well, in a lot of there's so much, there's so much narration.

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There's a lot, a lot of narration of like daily just going through his routine.

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I'm curious how many days this goes through, at least the routine of it, because it just

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it goes through those and it starts to get very repetitive very quickly.

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And he's just narrating it the whole time and telling you exactly how he feels at all

441
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points and there's just a lot of other times for other, other kinds of introspection, but

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he's just not that type of guy.

443
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But that, that yeah, that accent and the whole, the whole thing was just one note a little

444
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bit.

445
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Sure.

446
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And you bring up a point that upon this viewing that I was really tuned into is like, this

447
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isn't a good movie.

448
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And this as a first time directorial debut, this movie is relatively boring.

449
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It is a little weirdly aimless and just rests on its laurels.

450
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But it feels like a debut for sure.

451
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And even then, like not a debut, you're like excited about this thing.

452
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You know, now, now watching this year, just like, I like again, I, and I, and I think

453
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this is something obviously that'll, that'll be, yeah, that'll be present throughout this

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whole episode is like, there are some ideas about this movie that I'm not going to criticize

455
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my younger self for being into.

456
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But now looking upon this again, I'm like, yeah, there are some like visually, uh, plotting

457
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wise and just overall, like where your focus is, is aimless, not well developed and uninteresting.

458
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The editing and choice of and pacing, as I mentioned, is the repetition of that routine.

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But just, just as a single example, there was this moment, I figured exactly where in

460
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the movie it's like where he, he and him scar Joe, like, leave each other at the end of

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the night.

462
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And then it goes into the morning and it does the slow zoom out on top of the kitchen counter

463
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to him washing a plate.

464
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And he's looking at this little thing on the plate like, I really got to get that.

465
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Yeah.

466
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And scene.

467
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And then it goes into him like going to church and like, why, why did we need that?

468
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What was the point of that?

469
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I was like, need freak.

470
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He's such a need freak, dude.

471
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The conversation that he has, like he's just, which, okay.

472
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The swiffer guy.

473
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He was just watching the.

474
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Okay.

475
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Can I just say the swith of the editing was bananas, dude.

476
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I had to like stop for a second.

477
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I was like, I rewound.

478
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I was like, what did I miss something?

479
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Did something else happen?

480
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And then he knows just him and this shot was like really trying to be like, look at that

481
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morning light.

482
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Look at that.

483
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Look at that.

484
00:27:43,300 --> 00:27:46,740
And then there's other things like the stop animation, which I thought was kind of cool,

485
00:27:46,740 --> 00:27:50,340
but also like someone making a video for you.

486
00:27:50,340 --> 00:27:51,340
Right.

487
00:27:51,340 --> 00:27:55,020
That's top animation of him jerking off in all these places.

488
00:27:55,020 --> 00:27:56,020
Right.

489
00:27:56,020 --> 00:27:58,540
And the bed, like in the changing, like the sheets and the pizza.

490
00:27:58,540 --> 00:28:00,140
He jerked off like 12 times.

491
00:28:00,140 --> 00:28:02,140
I think it's like 11 times.

492
00:28:02,140 --> 00:28:05,260
He ordered a pizza.

493
00:28:05,260 --> 00:28:07,300
He jerked off like seven times.

494
00:28:07,300 --> 00:28:10,540
Order a pizza and then into the pizza and then jerked off more.

495
00:28:10,540 --> 00:28:14,340
It's, but that is like a clear sign of, yeah, like a debut of an amateur.

496
00:28:14,340 --> 00:28:15,340
Oh my gosh.

497
00:28:15,340 --> 00:28:16,340
Sorry.

498
00:28:16,340 --> 00:28:17,340
Sorry, buddy.

499
00:28:17,340 --> 00:28:19,620
But like it's like something that's very earnest.

500
00:28:19,620 --> 00:28:22,300
He's such an earnest dude and he's trying something different.

501
00:28:22,300 --> 00:28:25,860
He's like, we're going to have a whole sequence of like a montage of me jerking it.

502
00:28:25,860 --> 00:28:30,540
Stop stop animation because, because I want to, because I want to try to see if I can

503
00:28:30,540 --> 00:28:32,940
do it, you know, and it like.

504
00:28:32,940 --> 00:28:34,900
Because it's all of his influences.

505
00:28:34,900 --> 00:28:38,580
It looks kind of cool, but it ends up being kind of pointless as well.

506
00:28:38,580 --> 00:28:44,940
But it's so interesting that all of his influences are on display like that because he literally

507
00:28:44,940 --> 00:28:46,580
was on.

508
00:28:46,580 --> 00:28:51,660
He did a Spielberg movie, a Nolan movie, and then a Mark.

509
00:28:51,660 --> 00:28:57,100
Oh, and so Lincoln's and then web was which one was the web one?

510
00:28:57,100 --> 00:28:58,100
Web was.

511
00:28:58,100 --> 00:29:02,300
500 days of summer.

512
00:29:02,300 --> 00:29:03,300
Ah, yeah.

513
00:29:03,300 --> 00:29:06,180
I mean, this is definitely writing off the high of that.

514
00:29:06,180 --> 00:29:13,820
Well, in interviews, too, he said as much as like I watched an interview where.

515
00:29:13,820 --> 00:29:20,420
They were the guy, the guy interviewing him was like, this has a lot of similarities to

516
00:29:20,420 --> 00:29:28,700
500 days of summer because it has the tendency by male viewers to misinterpret him like the

517
00:29:28,700 --> 00:29:30,420
main character, right?

518
00:29:30,420 --> 00:29:37,420
As being a good guy and, you know, and if anybody and that's all what's funny about

519
00:29:37,420 --> 00:29:42,500
500 days to summer for me in my life is like, you're supposed to watch that movie as a guy

520
00:29:42,500 --> 00:29:49,180
and go like, here's this fucking self absorbed piece of shit that is ruining a relationship

521
00:29:49,180 --> 00:29:53,060
with somebody because all he gives a shit about is himself.

522
00:29:53,060 --> 00:29:54,060
And it's like.

523
00:29:54,060 --> 00:29:57,380
And but they're romanticizing and putting people right things on.

524
00:29:57,380 --> 00:30:02,340
I've seen movies, too, but that's right, I've seen movies, too, so I can understand how

525
00:30:02,340 --> 00:30:06,540
you get there, but you're misreading the tea leaves, you know, it's like anybody who's

526
00:30:06,540 --> 00:30:09,700
ever seen fucking.

527
00:30:09,700 --> 00:30:11,940
Fight club fight club.

528
00:30:11,940 --> 00:30:12,940
Yeah.

529
00:30:12,940 --> 00:30:13,940
Oh, fight.

530
00:30:13,940 --> 00:30:14,940
Yes, fight club.

531
00:30:14,940 --> 00:30:19,820
That's what I want to talk about because recently watching Fight Club again.

532
00:30:19,820 --> 00:30:27,820
It was kind of similar to this movie where a younger version like the younger me didn't

533
00:30:27,820 --> 00:30:35,380
notice certain aspects of it or didn't understand the tone of it well enough because they just

534
00:30:35,380 --> 00:30:40,220
hadn't seen enough or hadn't experienced enough.

535
00:30:40,220 --> 00:30:46,140
So I got wrapped up in like how cool this is when you watch these things, you're like,

536
00:30:46,140 --> 00:30:48,500
no, these aren't.

537
00:30:48,500 --> 00:30:49,740
These aren't good people.

538
00:30:49,740 --> 00:30:51,620
These aren't the guys you want to be.

539
00:30:51,620 --> 00:30:54,060
Yeah, like, yeah, like there's no plan.

540
00:30:54,060 --> 00:30:55,300
There is no plan.

541
00:30:55,300 --> 00:30:56,300
There's no plan.

542
00:30:56,300 --> 00:31:03,660
And also, too, all of this shit that is happening to them is because of that.

543
00:31:03,660 --> 00:31:07,340
Even though it's like exciting to see in a movie, so then you think, well, if I act

544
00:31:07,340 --> 00:31:09,380
like this, then my life will be exciting.

545
00:31:09,380 --> 00:31:13,180
But you're like, all of these terrible things are happening because they put themselves in

546
00:31:13,180 --> 00:31:19,980
there by having terrible views on like society and on life.

547
00:31:19,980 --> 00:31:21,740
And it is.

548
00:31:21,740 --> 00:31:22,740
Yeah.

549
00:31:22,740 --> 00:31:27,220
Again, this movie is so interesting to me because it presents itself as here is what

550
00:31:27,220 --> 00:31:31,620
a terrible way of looking at things is.

551
00:31:31,620 --> 00:31:32,620
Yeah.

552
00:31:32,620 --> 00:31:33,620
Yeah.

553
00:31:33,620 --> 00:31:39,020
And like it gets there at the end and you would have to be pretty pretty stupid to not

554
00:31:39,020 --> 00:31:45,300
get it, but with this one, it is not there and like banging you over the head at the

555
00:31:45,300 --> 00:31:47,460
end necessarily, but it's it's absolutely there.

556
00:31:47,460 --> 00:31:49,020
And that's a big part of what the ending is.

557
00:31:49,020 --> 00:31:51,380
And you'd have to be pretty stupid to not understand that.

558
00:31:51,380 --> 00:31:55,340
And with fight fight club, it is so multi layered and it looks so cool.

559
00:31:55,340 --> 00:31:59,580
And you have Brad Pitt and everything that like people just get so disillusioned with

560
00:31:59,580 --> 00:32:04,020
the make the makeup of it all rather than the substance.

561
00:32:04,020 --> 00:32:06,540
But I told this is better movie.

562
00:32:06,540 --> 00:32:09,220
Especially like an impressionable mind and everything.

563
00:32:09,220 --> 00:32:10,220
Yeah, it is.

564
00:32:10,220 --> 00:32:17,140
It is still a great movie, but it is interesting like to see how people interpret things and

565
00:32:17,140 --> 00:32:20,300
people understanding media literacy these days.

566
00:32:20,300 --> 00:32:23,460
And I've already talked about this with like poor things and everything.

567
00:32:23,460 --> 00:32:31,060
And it's like people misinterpreting what the movie is trying to do is so frustrating.

568
00:32:31,060 --> 00:32:33,460
And it's like it's totally fine if you don't like it.

569
00:32:33,460 --> 00:32:39,100
But then when we read these reviews on the on our podcast and it's like, oh, you don't

570
00:32:39,100 --> 00:32:40,260
like it, whatever, it's fine.

571
00:32:40,260 --> 00:32:45,260
But like you really don't like it for like this other reason that's like seems it's it

572
00:32:45,260 --> 00:32:52,540
confuses and befuddles me when people misinterpret it so badly that it like offends them in

573
00:32:52,540 --> 00:32:55,260
a in a stupid way rather than like the right way.

574
00:32:55,260 --> 00:32:59,100
It's like you it's OK if you're offended, but you're not offended in the right way because

575
00:32:59,100 --> 00:33:04,660
you're too stupid to get it, which I'm not the smartest guy in the in the tool shed.

576
00:33:04,660 --> 00:33:07,140
And you know, there's not many smart guys in that tool shed.

577
00:33:07,140 --> 00:33:14,260
But that's just me in there trying to trying to screw or something.

578
00:33:15,860 --> 00:33:18,300
Well, they call you the hammer, right?

579
00:33:18,300 --> 00:33:21,260
They call me the hammer.

580
00:33:21,260 --> 00:33:23,620
Because I'm doing it.

581
00:33:27,020 --> 00:33:27,740
Yes.

582
00:33:27,740 --> 00:33:28,380
Yes.

583
00:33:28,380 --> 00:33:29,380
Yes.

584
00:33:29,380 --> 00:33:31,380
No, I am smart.

585
00:33:31,380 --> 00:33:32,380
And far to guess.

586
00:33:32,380 --> 00:33:33,380
Starticus.

587
00:33:33,380 --> 00:33:37,900
So this so like there's there's like sections of the movie.

588
00:33:37,900 --> 00:33:40,940
I mean, like the I'm trying to think of like any other sections.

589
00:33:40,940 --> 00:33:44,420
I feel like the club and like the dinner sections of the movie.

590
00:33:44,420 --> 00:33:45,740
Can I talk about club stuff?

591
00:33:45,740 --> 00:33:46,740
Club stuff.

592
00:33:46,740 --> 00:33:47,740
Let's go to club.

593
00:33:47,740 --> 00:33:49,340
And can I? Yeah.

594
00:33:49,340 --> 00:33:58,180
So something that threw me off this time around is how terrible of a relationship

595
00:33:58,180 --> 00:34:02,140
he has with his friends, even though that's also what he cares about.

596
00:34:02,140 --> 00:34:03,140
You know what I mean?

597
00:34:03,140 --> 00:34:06,900
But when I saw this this time, I really picked up.

598
00:34:06,900 --> 00:34:13,540
I'm like, he couldn't give a shit less about any of these so-called friends.

599
00:34:13,540 --> 00:34:19,300
And like he only makes fun of one guy all the time and never tells him he's doing

600
00:34:19,300 --> 00:34:22,020
anything great and just like makes fun of him.

601
00:34:22,020 --> 00:34:27,060
Like his friends function as wallpaper to his life.

602
00:34:27,060 --> 00:34:29,500
And it was so crazy to me to be like.

603
00:34:30,900 --> 00:34:36,420
That to think about it at that level of like when somebody says and I've met these people,

604
00:34:36,420 --> 00:34:37,100
you know what I mean?

605
00:34:37,100 --> 00:34:39,500
It's like and you have to I'm sure.

606
00:34:39,500 --> 00:34:40,500
Is.

607
00:34:42,060 --> 00:34:46,420
These people are functioning only as like I'm going to show up to this place.

608
00:34:46,860 --> 00:34:49,780
I'm going to need to talk to somebody for a little bit of time,

609
00:34:49,900 --> 00:34:53,140
but I couldn't give a fuck less about what's going on with their life.

610
00:34:53,140 --> 00:34:58,420
Yeah, and it made me hate Don John a lot because I'm like, you don't give a shit

611
00:34:58,420 --> 00:34:59,620
about any of your friends.

612
00:34:59,620 --> 00:35:04,740
If anything, your the his black friend was like an actually good person.

613
00:35:04,740 --> 00:35:09,380
Oh, yeah, like shows up and was like, hey, dude, that's so frustrating.

614
00:35:10,220 --> 00:35:14,260
You said this at the club the other night and like, wait a minute, like that's.

615
00:35:14,460 --> 00:35:15,660
OK, what's going on?

616
00:35:15,660 --> 00:35:17,620
And I was like, thank you.

617
00:35:17,620 --> 00:35:19,420
Finally, somebody is like.

618
00:35:19,420 --> 00:35:26,300
Like ask because right, like with the voiceover and with where the scenes are

619
00:35:26,300 --> 00:35:32,260
and the camera is like all you know is his perspective.

620
00:35:32,260 --> 00:35:35,460
The so much of this movie like 80 percent of the movie.

621
00:35:35,460 --> 00:35:39,660
And it is annoying at a time because you're like, but I'm not supposed to like you though.

622
00:35:39,660 --> 00:35:45,180
Right. So like it's not smart enough or funny enough where even though I'm not

623
00:35:45,180 --> 00:35:47,540
supposed to like you, I'm OK with hanging out with you.

624
00:35:47,540 --> 00:35:50,100
I'm just getting frustrated with being around you.

625
00:35:50,340 --> 00:35:52,500
Like you're making dumb decisions.

626
00:35:52,500 --> 00:35:55,660
You're like having the wrong perspective on stuff.

627
00:35:55,860 --> 00:35:57,620
Like even from jump, you're like.

628
00:36:01,860 --> 00:36:04,460
I can understand.

629
00:36:04,460 --> 00:36:05,860
To like.

630
00:36:09,300 --> 00:36:12,500
You wanting to have fun.

631
00:36:12,500 --> 00:36:20,420
But your version of fun sounds shitty like all you're doing is you're going

632
00:36:20,420 --> 00:36:25,380
to the club just to hook up because you need to rectify your porn addiction.

633
00:36:26,300 --> 00:36:29,780
And you're like, why do I give a fuck about this character?

634
00:36:29,780 --> 00:36:33,100
And it's so competitive and it's like that can definitely be a part of it.

635
00:36:33,100 --> 00:36:35,820
But when it gets into.

636
00:36:35,820 --> 00:36:40,860
That that was the most frustrating moment is that there's no follow up

637
00:36:40,860 --> 00:36:46,460
to him treating his friend like utter shit for coming and stopping by to check on him,

638
00:36:46,740 --> 00:36:48,500
which was already a little extraneous.

639
00:36:48,500 --> 00:36:50,140
Like as far as like that.

640
00:36:50,140 --> 00:36:51,500
They do have a makeup for that.

641
00:36:51,500 --> 00:36:52,260
No, that's not true.

642
00:36:52,260 --> 00:36:56,020
They have a makeup because one night he just doesn't give a shit about chicks.

643
00:36:56,220 --> 00:36:59,660
And so then they had that night where they're just eating tacos together.

644
00:36:59,860 --> 00:37:02,780
And they're like, you know what, you're still a piece of shit.

645
00:37:02,860 --> 00:37:07,300
And then they're just and it's it's so vapid and it's so that could have been

646
00:37:07,300 --> 00:37:09,540
a little bit of the other layer of that moment.

647
00:37:09,540 --> 00:37:11,100
That was much more interesting.

648
00:37:11,100 --> 00:37:11,900
Yeah.

649
00:37:11,900 --> 00:37:16,020
But I mean, but the other layer of him visiting to beyond just being a shitty

650
00:37:16,020 --> 00:37:19,620
friend is is the extent to his porn addiction.

651
00:37:20,580 --> 00:37:25,260
Is that dire that like he is so annoyed at his friend stopping by that he's like

652
00:37:25,260 --> 00:37:27,540
treating his friend like shit.

653
00:37:27,540 --> 00:37:29,860
Yeah, because he's in the middle.

654
00:37:29,860 --> 00:37:31,260
I mean, you should just like point.

655
00:37:31,260 --> 00:37:31,940
I guess it's porn.

656
00:37:31,940 --> 00:37:35,580
It's just or or a masturbation, whatever the addiction is.

657
00:37:35,580 --> 00:37:36,980
You could one of you.

658
00:37:36,980 --> 00:37:38,460
What do you break it down to?

659
00:37:38,460 --> 00:37:42,900
He defines it as for me for all all my knowledge in the movie.

660
00:37:42,900 --> 00:37:47,580
But like for him to be so annoyed with his friend, so annoyed with like life

661
00:37:47,580 --> 00:37:50,900
events and the things that he needs to do, like his routine and everything,

662
00:37:50,900 --> 00:37:54,500
and that it's obstructing those things is a true addiction.

663
00:37:54,700 --> 00:37:58,740
And to get into that of the movie, too, of like, oh, he's like, got to figure

664
00:37:58,740 --> 00:38:01,980
this out because it's like fucking up other parts of his life.

665
00:38:01,980 --> 00:38:03,820
But it's not really at all.

666
00:38:03,860 --> 00:38:04,140
Right.

667
00:38:04,140 --> 00:38:08,300
The well, the the way that that is relation to that comes about.

668
00:38:08,300 --> 00:38:12,060
Is just the part that that's the crux of the Scar Joe.

669
00:38:12,100 --> 00:38:15,180
And then the night class thing, I don't know, whatever.

670
00:38:15,460 --> 00:38:17,700
That would be the other section we could talk about as well.

671
00:38:17,700 --> 00:38:20,220
But like him going to leave the best of the movie.

672
00:38:20,300 --> 00:38:22,700
But like that's where that rears its head.

673
00:38:22,700 --> 00:38:26,500
Is what I'm talking about is like that's where that rears its head is like

674
00:38:26,980 --> 00:38:34,140
he brings his phone into fucking a public place, his school and his watching porn

675
00:38:34,620 --> 00:38:36,820
at his like that kid.

676
00:38:36,820 --> 00:38:40,980
Extract like that could that could expand to such an interesting scene

677
00:38:40,980 --> 00:38:44,220
or conflict or something that could happen within the movie of like

678
00:38:44,860 --> 00:38:48,500
he gets caught, he gets caught in a public place.

679
00:38:48,540 --> 00:38:50,460
I mean, he gets caught by Julianne more or whatever.

680
00:38:50,460 --> 00:38:52,980
A sound for comedy for something.

681
00:38:52,980 --> 00:38:53,540
I don't know.

682
00:38:53,540 --> 00:38:56,220
It's just like I was just thinking of something like for him to

683
00:38:56,380 --> 00:39:00,620
to really face his porn addiction head on in a way that like someone tells him

684
00:39:00,620 --> 00:39:04,980
like you need to get help in a sanctioned way because you got fucking caught.

685
00:39:04,980 --> 00:39:08,420
And I don't know not to not make him a sexual offender,

686
00:39:08,420 --> 00:39:11,020
like put him on a list to that extent, but just get him.

687
00:39:11,020 --> 00:39:15,740
Yeah, just get him to the point where like he he has to face his issue.

688
00:39:15,740 --> 00:39:19,620
And I feel like he never gets there in terms of his issues.

689
00:39:19,660 --> 00:39:21,980
But like in terms of his own, I don't know, like

690
00:39:23,260 --> 00:39:25,900
intimacy with a with a person is one thing.

691
00:39:25,900 --> 00:39:30,780
And he understands that's an issue with that and his ability to be intimate

692
00:39:30,780 --> 00:39:32,780
with somebody and to have a relationship.

693
00:39:32,780 --> 00:39:37,820
But I feel like the issue with the porn addiction is much bigger than is my.

694
00:39:37,900 --> 00:39:42,500
OK, OK, I feel like it's a life consuming borderline.

695
00:39:42,940 --> 00:39:45,820
Like he's but yeah, it's a real issue.

696
00:39:46,780 --> 00:39:49,860
But it's not necessarily because his apartment's clean.

697
00:39:49,860 --> 00:39:52,020
He has a job like all of these things.

698
00:39:52,300 --> 00:39:54,580
And then he just likes porn. So it's not. Yeah.

699
00:39:54,620 --> 00:39:57,140
Yeah, I guess I was just expecting it to like.

700
00:39:57,900 --> 00:40:02,540
Yeah, you want to accelerate or the plot to like the plot to like

701
00:40:02,540 --> 00:40:05,140
go up has very little drama to go up or something.

702
00:40:05,140 --> 00:40:08,420
But it just kind of flat lines like movie fucking flat lines and just

703
00:40:08,660 --> 00:40:10,940
then goes away like whatever.

704
00:40:11,020 --> 00:40:12,900
Yeah, rather than do anything.

705
00:40:12,900 --> 00:40:16,420
But you know, yeah, it's very shallow.

706
00:40:16,420 --> 00:40:18,660
This movie, right?

707
00:40:18,660 --> 00:40:23,100
I I mean, you're making me say I guess it is.

708
00:40:23,380 --> 00:40:24,900
I guess it is.

709
00:40:24,900 --> 00:40:26,700
But I mean, shallow.

710
00:40:26,700 --> 00:40:31,060
Yeah, I guess dinner scene with like Tony Danza is even something that I said.

711
00:40:31,060 --> 00:40:33,140
It's right now. It's shallow.

712
00:40:33,140 --> 00:40:34,940
I mean, he's got the cut to my face.

713
00:40:34,940 --> 00:40:36,540
It's fucking shallow. I'm sorry.

714
00:40:36,540 --> 00:40:38,740
I'm sorry. It's fucking shallow.

715
00:40:39,540 --> 00:40:43,460
Like really, I feel as a real JGL Tony Danza dynamic we had there.

716
00:40:43,460 --> 00:40:45,260
You like let's talk about Tony Danza.

717
00:40:45,260 --> 00:40:48,780
We have I know that's like something I should have enjoyed the dinner scenes more.

718
00:40:48,980 --> 00:40:53,780
I thought the mom was fun, but like I didn't enjoy it as much as I wanted to.

719
00:40:53,780 --> 00:40:55,940
There was it was great to see Tony Danza.

720
00:40:55,940 --> 00:40:57,140
Great to see Tony Danza.

721
00:40:57,140 --> 00:40:59,020
Respect. It was.

722
00:40:59,020 --> 00:41:00,020
Yes.

723
00:41:00,500 --> 00:41:01,900
That's how I felt about it.

724
00:41:03,660 --> 00:41:06,260
That's why I felt about the two when the movie came out.

725
00:41:06,540 --> 00:41:08,500
I remember telling I feel like it's great.

726
00:41:08,500 --> 00:41:09,460
It's about this.

727
00:41:09,460 --> 00:41:11,220
It's like Tony Danza looks great.

728
00:41:11,220 --> 00:41:12,460
He's bringing the heat.

729
00:41:12,460 --> 00:41:17,220
And it was so funny to watch interviews with Tony Danza about this movie

730
00:41:17,220 --> 00:41:22,620
where he is essentially what Joseph Gordon Levitt is.

731
00:41:23,900 --> 00:41:25,100
Is you know what I mean?

732
00:41:25,100 --> 00:41:26,700
It's real Bruce Willis loopers.

733
00:41:26,700 --> 00:41:30,740
It's a true issue to Brian Johnson.

734
00:41:30,740 --> 00:41:32,860
They should have given given him.

735
00:41:32,860 --> 00:41:34,540
I don't know what would you need for Danza?

736
00:41:34,540 --> 00:41:37,100
Big blues, because he got those big, beautiful eyes.

737
00:41:37,780 --> 00:41:38,820
Yeah, he does.

738
00:41:38,820 --> 00:41:40,500
I don't think you can match that.

739
00:41:40,500 --> 00:41:41,860
He looks great.

740
00:41:41,860 --> 00:41:45,340
He fills out that that I guess you is it's probably not

741
00:41:45,340 --> 00:41:48,900
called a wife beater, but that's no, it's a T is what you call it.

742
00:41:48,900 --> 00:41:51,580
And the 80 is like this.

743
00:41:51,580 --> 00:41:56,100
Like it's an instead of there's a T shirt, which is why the it goes out like this.

744
00:41:56,100 --> 00:41:58,060
And there's an A shirt.

745
00:41:58,060 --> 00:41:58,900
Gotcha.

746
00:41:58,900 --> 00:41:59,780
He's an A frame.

747
00:41:59,780 --> 00:42:00,580
A shirt.

748
00:42:00,580 --> 00:42:02,180
He's an A shirt.

749
00:42:02,180 --> 00:42:03,300
It's your dance.

750
00:42:03,300 --> 00:42:04,180
A shirt, Danza.

751
00:42:04,180 --> 00:42:05,460
He loves football.

752
00:42:05,460 --> 00:42:07,580
He gets mad when anyone interrupts.

753
00:42:07,580 --> 00:42:09,460
There's this whole scene about Tebow that.

754
00:42:11,980 --> 00:42:12,980
Hey, good God.

755
00:42:12,980 --> 00:42:14,860
Hey, I don't know.

756
00:42:14,860 --> 00:42:16,820
I don't know how I feel about it.

757
00:42:16,820 --> 00:42:20,580
Well, it is interesting because I've had that conversation with my parents.

758
00:42:20,580 --> 00:42:21,580
That exact conversation.

759
00:42:21,580 --> 00:42:22,340
You know what I mean?

760
00:42:22,340 --> 00:42:26,500
Oh, we all have JGL rule, tapped a nerve there.

761
00:42:30,100 --> 00:42:31,140
He did for me.

762
00:42:31,140 --> 00:42:35,300
I'm just saying is that you have to nerve where I'm just like kind of big

763
00:42:35,300 --> 00:42:37,620
factory quitting you a little bit like, you know, what do you know?

764
00:42:37,620 --> 00:42:40,260
Oh, you know, one of the most successful movies ever.

765
00:42:40,260 --> 00:42:41,460
Big factory.

766
00:42:41,460 --> 00:42:42,460
Great one.

767
00:42:43,660 --> 00:42:44,740
OK, yeah.

768
00:42:44,740 --> 00:42:46,980
One part. OK, not the whole movie.

769
00:42:48,900 --> 00:42:51,220
I put windows on my cuts because of the movie.

770
00:42:51,220 --> 00:42:53,460
You're supposed to put them on your pimples.

771
00:42:54,260 --> 00:42:55,580
Oh, you do for everything.

772
00:42:55,580 --> 00:42:56,580
Do for everything.

773
00:42:57,820 --> 00:42:59,340
Brandini, Don Brandini.

774
00:42:59,340 --> 00:43:01,980
Oh, I made him upset.

775
00:43:02,660 --> 00:43:03,660
I made him upset.

776
00:43:04,580 --> 00:43:05,580
Whoa.

777
00:43:06,460 --> 00:43:07,780
He's going to pull up again.

778
00:43:13,300 --> 00:43:17,900
And then I guess we there's church, church section, which really is just

779
00:43:17,900 --> 00:43:23,380
a let's it's just walking in and then face and then walking out.

780
00:43:25,340 --> 00:43:28,340
And then he gets frustrated with the complex plays around with this.

781
00:43:28,740 --> 00:43:30,820
Where he's like, he really thinks it's a personal

782
00:43:32,180 --> 00:43:34,660
relationship that he has with the father.

783
00:43:34,660 --> 00:43:37,980
But it's really just a different guy every time and he gets frustrated

784
00:43:38,580 --> 00:43:39,380
with all the shifts.

785
00:43:39,380 --> 00:43:42,620
They don't say they don't say that's how they don't say, though.

786
00:43:42,700 --> 00:43:44,420
That's how that arc works out is.

787
00:43:44,420 --> 00:43:48,620
But then I guess it it forces him to confront his own demons himself

788
00:43:48,620 --> 00:43:51,020
rather than rely on.

789
00:43:51,020 --> 00:43:54,300
Yeah, I have to do the extra work, though.

790
00:43:54,300 --> 00:43:56,620
I have to do I feel like I got to do extra work here.

791
00:43:59,100 --> 00:44:00,780
But you got there.

792
00:44:00,780 --> 00:44:04,540
I know it's very obvious, but I just want them to put the scene in.

793
00:44:04,540 --> 00:44:08,020
I feel like there's editing choices where like they put

794
00:44:08,620 --> 00:44:11,780
stuff that doesn't matter in and there's other scenes that are missing.

795
00:44:11,780 --> 00:44:14,820
Yeah. OK, so let's get to the end of this.

796
00:44:14,820 --> 00:44:16,820
So I mean, there's the Brie Larson scene.

797
00:44:16,820 --> 00:44:18,420
That's very important. All right.

798
00:44:18,420 --> 00:44:20,380
She does say one line.

799
00:44:20,380 --> 00:44:23,460
The breeze. Yeah, we Larson is dude.

800
00:44:23,620 --> 00:44:26,620
And in her whole bit with him is pretty great.

801
00:44:26,620 --> 00:44:28,620
It's good. It's a good part. It's good.

802
00:44:28,620 --> 00:44:30,060
It's a really good part.

803
00:44:30,060 --> 00:44:32,180
It's like, no, she wanted you to be something else.

804
00:44:32,540 --> 00:44:35,220
And I was just hanging out with a friend of ours where I was like,

805
00:44:35,580 --> 00:44:38,580
that's the relationship problem you're having, too, is like somebody

806
00:44:38,580 --> 00:44:44,620
that wants to just be with you because they see what you can be in their own

807
00:44:44,620 --> 00:44:47,460
image is not a healthy place to be at.

808
00:44:48,060 --> 00:44:53,540
Like you don't want somebody to like a part of being in a relationship

809
00:44:53,540 --> 00:44:59,620
with them is they're going to change you and fix you so that then you become

810
00:44:59,620 --> 00:45:02,540
the person that they want you to be, you know.

811
00:45:03,660 --> 00:45:06,260
Yeah, it's there's no room for growth.

812
00:45:06,260 --> 00:45:08,900
And that's where this movie comes to a head.

813
00:45:08,900 --> 00:45:10,420
But.

814
00:45:10,620 --> 00:45:12,500
Yarr, much too late, Yarr.

815
00:45:13,500 --> 00:45:16,820
It to be one of them movies that comes much too late, Yarr.

816
00:45:17,220 --> 00:45:19,500
I was going to go through my notes real quick.

817
00:45:19,860 --> 00:45:24,860
One of the first line, I think the very first line is the Mac sound going on

818
00:45:25,740 --> 00:45:28,180
like, because that is a big motif in the movie.

819
00:45:28,180 --> 00:45:30,780
And then the first line in the movie is not going to lie.

820
00:45:31,060 --> 00:45:33,020
That sound gets me hard as a rock.

821
00:45:33,020 --> 00:45:35,260
And then the movie begins.

822
00:45:36,140 --> 00:45:39,660
My my notice, yo, not going to lie is the first line in the movie.

823
00:45:39,740 --> 00:45:41,580
Yeah, yo, no, I forgot the yo.

824
00:45:41,580 --> 00:45:41,980
So.

825
00:45:43,860 --> 00:45:44,460
Not going to lie.

826
00:45:44,460 --> 00:45:45,660
It's like, thanks for not lying.

827
00:45:45,660 --> 00:45:46,260
J.G.L.

828
00:45:46,260 --> 00:45:46,580
Things.

829
00:45:46,580 --> 00:45:47,180
Yeah.

830
00:45:47,180 --> 00:45:47,260
Yeah.

831
00:45:47,900 --> 00:45:50,500
I know that out to my TV when I was watching you.

832
00:45:50,500 --> 00:45:51,540
I was like, thank God.

833
00:45:51,540 --> 00:45:53,660
I was like, oh, Brandon's going to love this.

834
00:45:54,460 --> 00:45:54,860
Yeah.

835
00:45:54,860 --> 00:45:58,220
I'm like, we hear a polarize love when people say not going to lie.

836
00:45:58,220 --> 00:45:58,500
Yeah.

837
00:45:58,500 --> 00:45:59,220
Not going to lie.

838
00:45:59,220 --> 00:45:59,540
Honestly.

839
00:45:59,540 --> 00:46:00,260
Finally.

840
00:46:00,260 --> 00:46:04,460
God, I'm so glad to know that what you're saying is not a lie.

841
00:46:04,460 --> 00:46:04,940
Yeah.

842
00:46:04,940 --> 00:46:08,260
The first line of the movie should not be a lie unless you're Stanley

843
00:46:08,260 --> 00:46:11,060
Kubrick, where you believe anything that anyone speaks is a lie.

844
00:46:11,260 --> 00:46:12,540
And the truth stays hidden.

845
00:46:12,900 --> 00:46:14,340
And it's up to you to figure it out.

846
00:46:14,540 --> 00:46:15,020
Maybe.

847
00:46:15,420 --> 00:46:17,020
No, that's not what this movie's doing.

848
00:46:17,220 --> 00:46:19,700
He very much speaks his truth throughout the whole time.

849
00:46:20,700 --> 00:46:21,980
My body pad ride.

850
00:46:21,980 --> 00:46:22,540
No.

851
00:46:23,260 --> 00:46:29,740
Oh, my body, my pad, my ride, my family, my church, my boys, my girl.

852
00:46:29,740 --> 00:46:31,420
My girls, my porn.

853
00:46:34,660 --> 00:46:37,820
My body, my pad, my ride, my family, my church, my boys, my girls, my boy.

854
00:46:37,860 --> 00:46:41,220
My body, my my my ride, my family, my church, my boys, my girls, my boy.

855
00:46:43,740 --> 00:46:46,860
That's a little like un-wieldy, more un-wieldy than GTL.

856
00:46:48,540 --> 00:46:50,660
He says, handful of teddy at one point.

857
00:46:51,220 --> 00:46:53,260
Your mom has some big ass titties.

858
00:46:54,020 --> 00:46:58,020
They're talking about, yeah, it really gets in the Freudian aspect in that

859
00:46:58,020 --> 00:47:01,500
club scene, which the movie is trying to do for sure.

860
00:47:02,420 --> 00:47:03,820
Real pussy can kill you.

861
00:47:04,460 --> 00:47:05,620
And then the line in this movie.

862
00:47:07,020 --> 00:47:11,100
They use the computer trash sound when he's throwing it in the dumpster.

863
00:47:11,100 --> 00:47:16,380
That thought that was a very, I don't know, that's like, it was creative,

864
00:47:16,380 --> 00:47:18,940
but then they did it every time and so much that you notice it every time.

865
00:47:18,940 --> 00:47:20,500
But it was, it was good.

866
00:47:20,540 --> 00:47:20,980
It was good.

867
00:47:21,060 --> 00:47:24,660
It just was such like a, I can picture JGL being like, yeah,

868
00:47:24,660 --> 00:47:27,060
I'm going to use the Apple trash sound as we throw it away.

869
00:47:27,060 --> 00:47:28,100
It's going to be perfect.

870
00:47:29,380 --> 00:47:30,300
And then he stalks her.

871
00:47:30,300 --> 00:47:31,740
He like straight up Facebook socks.

872
00:47:31,740 --> 00:47:35,820
He looks her looks her up on Facebook, Boba Shugerman.

873
00:47:36,260 --> 00:47:37,620
And then like, well, he does.

874
00:47:37,620 --> 00:47:41,180
Or two, he asks, he comes over to his friends place.

875
00:47:41,740 --> 00:47:42,620
Them looking up.

876
00:47:43,660 --> 00:47:45,340
Because he doesn't know how to use these.

877
00:47:45,340 --> 00:47:45,980
Oh, yeah.

878
00:47:48,140 --> 00:47:50,540
His computer is solely a porn machine.

879
00:47:50,540 --> 00:47:55,700
Performed, I can't have him tracing it back to me.

880
00:47:58,140 --> 00:48:00,740
I don't understand a search history.

881
00:48:03,740 --> 00:48:05,660
That whole bit was a cookie.

882
00:48:05,660 --> 00:48:06,460
I don't know.

883
00:48:07,700 --> 00:48:13,340
Like, wait, you're you're very tech, unsavvy, but then

884
00:48:13,660 --> 00:48:16,660
porn is what you figured out is so funny to me.

885
00:48:16,820 --> 00:48:18,260
He just says, yeah, that's.

886
00:48:18,260 --> 00:48:21,860
Yeah, he just has no understanding about how a computer works,

887
00:48:21,860 --> 00:48:24,020
but he watches a lot of internet porn.

888
00:48:24,540 --> 00:48:25,420
Like that's yeah.

889
00:48:25,420 --> 00:48:27,620
And he uses a black laptop.

890
00:48:27,620 --> 00:48:30,540
That's pretty bold for strictly porn usage.

891
00:48:31,180 --> 00:48:31,980
Sorry, gross.

892
00:48:34,340 --> 00:48:38,340
The fake movies are so hard so fast with Bruce Blackstone

893
00:48:38,340 --> 00:48:41,900
and Kelly Vallette, which is John Krasinski and Emily Blunt, I believe.

894
00:48:42,340 --> 00:48:44,900
And then the other movie is that they actually do watch

895
00:48:44,900 --> 00:48:49,020
a special someone with Conor Vero and Emily Lombardo,

896
00:48:49,820 --> 00:48:51,940
Channing Tatum and Anne Hathaway.

897
00:48:51,940 --> 00:48:55,900
Then comes the scene of them doing dishes of him doing dishes after that date.

898
00:48:57,100 --> 00:48:58,700
And they just show a Carl's Jr.

899
00:48:58,700 --> 00:49:00,300
ad with no commentary on it.

900
00:49:00,300 --> 00:49:02,820
And just like they were like that's that.

901
00:49:02,820 --> 00:49:06,260
It was like a good moment of like representing what the movie was to me is like.

902
00:49:07,260 --> 00:49:09,420
They just show you a Carl's Jr. ad.

903
00:49:10,100 --> 00:49:12,220
Yeah, they do with Brooklyn Decker.

904
00:49:12,220 --> 00:49:12,900
And they don't.

905
00:49:12,900 --> 00:49:13,740
There's nothing out.

906
00:49:13,740 --> 00:49:15,380
There's no there's no one says anything.

907
00:49:15,380 --> 00:49:18,420
It didn't know and that commercial existed, too, which is so interesting.

908
00:49:18,420 --> 00:49:19,500
It's just straight up a commercial.

909
00:49:19,500 --> 00:49:21,580
And Carl's Jr. was up here with him. Oh, oh, yeah.

910
00:49:21,580 --> 00:49:22,460
Oh, yeah. I remember all those.

911
00:49:22,460 --> 00:49:24,660
Do you remember? Yeah, absolutely.

912
00:49:24,660 --> 00:49:27,220
And then I remember talking to my dad about those commercials

913
00:49:27,220 --> 00:49:29,860
because it would be something that would come on on the weekend.

914
00:49:29,860 --> 00:49:33,500
Like for football games, like between football games and shit.

915
00:49:33,540 --> 00:49:36,460
And it's like and then your dad being like they didn't make a.

916
00:49:38,220 --> 00:49:41,620
It's like they don't make commercials like this anymore or whatever.

917
00:49:41,620 --> 00:49:43,260
And you're like, wow.

918
00:49:43,260 --> 00:49:46,540
Or some dad joke is like, yeah, she's really getting that car clean.

919
00:49:46,540 --> 00:49:46,940
Sure.

920
00:49:46,940 --> 00:49:48,220
Yeah.

921
00:49:48,220 --> 00:49:48,900
Right.

922
00:49:49,220 --> 00:49:50,700
You missed a spot.

923
00:49:50,700 --> 00:49:52,140
She doesn't eat those burgers.

924
00:49:52,140 --> 00:49:53,340
I can guarantee.

925
00:49:53,340 --> 00:49:54,340
OK.

926
00:49:56,300 --> 00:49:58,300
Those are the parasol sometimes.

927
00:49:58,300 --> 00:50:02,660
Yeah, it was definitely reminding me of a time, but it was just like another thing

928
00:50:02,660 --> 00:50:06,540
where it just didn't seem to have much to say other than show you,

929
00:50:06,820 --> 00:50:10,500
which was like a good place to start the movie beyond like when you actually

930
00:50:10,500 --> 00:50:16,260
started talking was like a compilation of how sex crazed our society is a little

931
00:50:16,260 --> 00:50:20,500
bit, but also like in a very edging sort of we're just like just like on the

932
00:50:20,900 --> 00:50:24,900
on the tip of always like everything is always, you know, and like that's a good

933
00:50:24,900 --> 00:50:26,860
place to start with this movie for sure.

934
00:50:27,300 --> 00:50:30,260
And that's why like being let down was frustrating for sure.

935
00:50:30,860 --> 00:50:36,940
I think this movie would be like noticeably better if the intro where it

936
00:50:36,940 --> 00:50:42,980
just flashes images of popular television and like porn together

937
00:50:42,980 --> 00:50:47,620
in her slice in them is that if they play the actual Cisco song song,

938
00:50:48,580 --> 00:50:52,780
your music that they got at the beginning of this is like so bizarre.

939
00:50:52,980 --> 00:50:54,860
And even the music to.

940
00:50:55,260 --> 00:50:59,980
Yeah, just shitty if he got Cisco's song song, if you were to cut this

941
00:50:59,980 --> 00:51:04,300
movie with Cisco song song at the beginning of it, I think it would be like.

942
00:51:04,300 --> 00:51:05,700
Five X better.

943
00:51:06,100 --> 00:51:07,740
Dude, the movie entirely for sure.

944
00:51:07,740 --> 00:51:11,300
It definitely is like cutting corners with having this generic ass fucking

945
00:51:11,300 --> 00:51:11,900
club.

946
00:51:11,900 --> 00:51:16,460
Yeah, whenever they go to the club and like it was so frustrating when he would

947
00:51:16,460 --> 00:51:21,220
like make eyes and they wanted to do the like quick cut like, I don't know,

948
00:51:21,220 --> 00:51:22,740
you might recommend for dream.

949
00:51:22,740 --> 00:51:27,020
Like just like a quick cut of like he sees a girl and then like it cuts to

950
00:51:27,020 --> 00:51:29,660
them like dancing together and you go see the routine or whatever.

951
00:51:30,100 --> 00:51:33,260
If that song that they do each time and the motif that they use to

952
00:51:33,260 --> 00:51:36,940
the time and the motif that they use was more like a big deal and recognizable

953
00:51:36,940 --> 00:51:39,900
like that moment would hit so much harder and said it's just like.

954
00:51:40,660 --> 00:51:43,700
Chicka, yeah, yeah, that's just gross.

955
00:51:43,700 --> 00:51:45,020
Yeah, it's so boring.

956
00:51:45,020 --> 00:51:46,060
It's yeah.

957
00:51:46,780 --> 00:51:49,540
There's four play while they're talking about meeting families.

958
00:51:49,540 --> 00:51:52,180
And then there's the whole yeah, we didn't talk about the hallway scene

959
00:51:52,180 --> 00:51:57,740
where they dry hump to like he she holds him hostage.

960
00:51:58,260 --> 00:51:58,700
Yeah.

961
00:51:58,700 --> 00:52:03,220
Yeah, in order for their family them to meet each other's families

962
00:52:03,660 --> 00:52:06,140
because they haven't they haven't had sex yet.

963
00:52:06,140 --> 00:52:11,540
So this is her way of forcing the commitment to go down this road by.

964
00:52:11,820 --> 00:52:12,380
Yeah, it was.

965
00:52:14,380 --> 00:52:17,340
It was a very strange scene.

966
00:52:17,340 --> 00:52:19,180
It's very strange scene to say the least.

967
00:52:19,300 --> 00:52:23,020
And I like it's strange enough like I'm OK with something being very uncomfortable

968
00:52:23,020 --> 00:52:27,820
and like a romantic comedy, like something could be weird, but it just is so weird.

969
00:52:27,820 --> 00:52:32,260
And how it starts is like, yeah, yeah, you want to meet my brother and my sister,

970
00:52:32,260 --> 00:52:33,100
don't you?

971
00:52:33,100 --> 00:52:34,700
Yeah, yeah.

972
00:52:36,060 --> 00:52:38,660
You want to meet my mother, my father, yeah.

973
00:52:38,660 --> 00:52:40,500
You want to come over and say, yeah.

974
00:52:42,500 --> 00:52:43,380
Come on.

975
00:52:43,380 --> 00:52:43,980
It's so funny.

976
00:52:43,980 --> 00:52:44,580
Come on.

977
00:52:44,580 --> 00:52:45,380
It's so funny.

978
00:52:45,380 --> 00:52:46,540
It's so funny.

979
00:52:46,540 --> 00:52:47,820
I'm laughing at it.

980
00:52:47,820 --> 00:52:48,860
I'm not laughing with it.

981
00:52:48,860 --> 00:52:49,820
I feel like I don't know.

982
00:52:49,820 --> 00:52:50,380
Me too, though.

983
00:52:50,380 --> 00:52:51,060
Me too, though.

984
00:52:51,060 --> 00:52:54,780
I feel like there's a part of it where they're trying to be on the road.

985
00:52:54,780 --> 00:52:55,780
It's getting close to the pants.

986
00:52:55,780 --> 00:52:56,780
Dude, though.

987
00:52:56,780 --> 00:52:57,780
Yeah.

988
00:52:57,780 --> 00:52:58,500
Yeah, he does.

989
00:52:58,500 --> 00:53:01,660
And then he like gets he has to do his laundry later and he sees his cum

990
00:53:01,660 --> 00:53:04,460
saying he's like, oh, great.

991
00:53:04,460 --> 00:53:06,060
He scratches it.

992
00:53:06,060 --> 00:53:06,900
You can hear that.

993
00:53:06,900 --> 00:53:10,620
Oh, is that like him watching the dish is like, oh, this reminds me of my

994
00:53:10,620 --> 00:53:10,940
cum.

995
00:53:10,940 --> 00:53:12,060
You know, the other.

996
00:53:14,460 --> 00:53:16,540
Oh, I got cum on my dish.

997
00:53:16,540 --> 00:53:18,060
I haven't taken out too much.

998
00:53:20,820 --> 00:53:21,860
Oh, my.

999
00:53:21,860 --> 00:53:22,260
Yeah.

1000
00:53:22,260 --> 00:53:23,780
Now you can get it.

1001
00:53:23,780 --> 00:53:26,060
That was a bonkers ass scene.

1002
00:53:26,060 --> 00:53:29,740
It was it was silly, but he just came in his pants and she's like, all right,

1003
00:53:29,740 --> 00:53:30,940
see you later.

1004
00:53:30,940 --> 00:53:32,060
Yeah, I'll see you later.

1005
00:53:32,060 --> 00:53:33,260
We're going to go out to bed.

1006
00:53:33,260 --> 00:53:35,740
Meet each other's families.

1007
00:53:35,740 --> 00:53:39,100
And then don't be fuck in like a child's bed.

1008
00:53:40,180 --> 00:53:42,460
It's her whole bedroom, I guess.

1009
00:53:42,460 --> 00:53:45,100
And her at her family's place.

1010
00:53:45,500 --> 00:53:48,260
And they're like, everyone's there.

1011
00:53:48,260 --> 00:53:49,860
And they're like, hey, can you come help?

1012
00:53:49,860 --> 00:53:51,340
Can you come help make dinner or whatever?

1013
00:53:51,340 --> 00:53:53,660
And they're like, and then she's like, we got to go.

1014
00:53:53,660 --> 00:53:56,260
I mean, we got to go make dinner with him.

1015
00:53:56,260 --> 00:53:58,860
He's like, damn it, I want the fuck.

1016
00:53:58,860 --> 00:54:00,500
He's like such a dick.

1017
00:54:00,500 --> 00:54:03,340
He's like, I want to fucking your childhood bedroom now.

1018
00:54:07,340 --> 00:54:08,780
Smoothies on hands, James.

1019
00:54:08,780 --> 00:54:09,780
I'm telling you.

1020
00:54:09,780 --> 00:54:10,780
I don't know.

1021
00:54:11,780 --> 00:54:15,060
And then OK, can we talk about when he meets?

1022
00:54:15,060 --> 00:54:16,420
Sorry. Do you want to go?

1023
00:54:16,420 --> 00:54:18,940
OK, I feel like I feel like we should go back.

1024
00:54:18,940 --> 00:54:19,780
I don't know.

1025
00:54:19,780 --> 00:54:21,260
It's your turn to do it now.

1026
00:54:21,260 --> 00:54:22,380
OK, OK, OK.

1027
00:54:22,380 --> 00:54:23,700
Am I will do a note?

1028
00:54:23,700 --> 00:54:26,220
I have I have a note here.

1029
00:54:27,820 --> 00:54:30,500
I have a note here that what Julianne

1030
00:54:30,500 --> 00:54:34,380
Moore stands for is finally something interesting.

1031
00:54:34,940 --> 00:54:37,300
Yeah. Substance, right?

1032
00:54:38,060 --> 00:54:40,900
It's what's going on with her.

1033
00:54:42,180 --> 00:54:45,140
Is solves the problems of this movie.

1034
00:54:45,140 --> 00:54:48,060
And I'm OK with it, like because it's handle

1035
00:54:48,060 --> 00:54:52,100
by one of the best actresses of all time.

1036
00:54:52,100 --> 00:54:57,740
Like, I haven't seen a movie she's in where she is not in

1037
00:54:58,700 --> 00:55:01,900
just incredible, like, understands the assignment

1038
00:55:01,900 --> 00:55:05,340
and just like brings it full fucking force.

1039
00:55:05,740 --> 00:55:09,300
And this viewing in particular is like everything

1040
00:55:09,300 --> 00:55:10,540
Julianne Moore is about.

1041
00:55:11,540 --> 00:55:14,900
That's what matters is because this idea that she's like,

1042
00:55:14,900 --> 00:55:19,180
here's a like, how hot is it for a girl to give you a porn thing?

1043
00:55:19,180 --> 00:55:22,860
And it's even hotter that it's not about just fucking.

1044
00:55:22,860 --> 00:55:26,220
It's about like people probably just like being naked around each other.

1045
00:55:26,220 --> 00:55:29,060
Or like, you know, like, I don't get it.

1046
00:55:29,060 --> 00:55:30,340
Like that's hot.

1047
00:55:30,340 --> 00:55:31,980
And, you know, it's.

1048
00:55:33,460 --> 00:55:34,260
Her.

1049
00:55:36,380 --> 00:55:40,380
What she stands for to with the family stuff is is really interesting.

1050
00:55:40,380 --> 00:55:41,300
How do you feel about that?

1051
00:55:41,300 --> 00:55:43,620
Because it's like it's a lot on top of a lot.

1052
00:55:44,980 --> 00:55:48,180
She has a lot of weight to put on her shoulders.

1053
00:55:48,180 --> 00:55:50,260
Absolutely like you're talking about with her performance

1054
00:55:50,260 --> 00:55:55,380
because the movie has not provided us the enough substance to this point.

1055
00:55:56,180 --> 00:55:59,980
And I would my note that I was going to bring up was how he meets her,

1056
00:56:01,100 --> 00:56:03,660
which really bummed me out.

1057
00:56:04,020 --> 00:56:08,220
Well, she is bawling, crying in front of the entrance of the building

1058
00:56:08,220 --> 00:56:09,700
to get back into the night class.

1059
00:56:10,380 --> 00:56:12,980
And his reaction is like, oh, perfect.

1060
00:56:13,220 --> 00:56:15,380
I got to walk by this lady who's crying.

1061
00:56:15,380 --> 00:56:19,580
And he was so annoyed, which is the fact that he has a walk by her.

1062
00:56:20,060 --> 00:56:20,740
And he walks by.

1063
00:56:20,740 --> 00:56:22,220
She's like, oh, I'm so sorry.

1064
00:56:22,220 --> 00:56:24,460
And she's like, hey, don't worry about it, whatever.

1065
00:56:24,460 --> 00:56:27,300
And he's like, fuck an annoying ass bitch.

1066
00:56:28,180 --> 00:56:32,380
But the the growth of that relationship is something that I had the most

1067
00:56:32,380 --> 00:56:33,220
curiosity about.

1068
00:56:33,220 --> 00:56:37,780
And she had I had the most like curiosity about as a character for sure.

1069
00:56:38,140 --> 00:56:42,220
About like where that was where that plane was landing with them.

1070
00:56:42,220 --> 00:56:45,340
And overall, like I'm happy. I am happy where it landed.

1071
00:56:45,740 --> 00:56:49,540
And there's in their scenes together, like they are so rough

1072
00:56:49,540 --> 00:56:53,500
because there's such an imbalance between the two of them.

1073
00:56:54,140 --> 00:56:58,780
But she looks like to his soul and delivers a line that doesn't

1074
00:56:58,780 --> 00:57:00,780
lead the movie doesn't deserve.

1075
00:57:01,780 --> 00:57:03,620
It doesn't deserve her.

1076
00:57:03,620 --> 00:57:08,460
She cuts to the core of her of him and the movie and is and just like

1077
00:57:08,460 --> 00:57:09,380
look straight through him.

1078
00:57:09,380 --> 00:57:12,820
And I was like, no, you're full of shit. Like shit. Yeah.

1079
00:57:12,820 --> 00:57:13,820
Yeah.

1080
00:57:13,820 --> 00:57:18,140
And I thought that she is such a successful actress that anything

1081
00:57:18,140 --> 00:57:20,500
she touches is going to shine a little brighter.

1082
00:57:20,860 --> 00:57:25,620
But the crazy how bright she shines, right?

1083
00:57:25,620 --> 00:57:26,100
Yeah.

1084
00:57:26,100 --> 00:57:28,540
I'm watching the Gloria Bell for this podcast.

1085
00:57:28,540 --> 00:57:32,180
It was like kind of like the scene kind of a similar energy or

1086
00:57:32,180 --> 00:57:36,500
something of just like free this free spirited, but also like a lot of

1087
00:57:36,500 --> 00:57:41,860
yeah, that's her her facial expressions, a mo like loss and

1088
00:57:41,860 --> 00:57:48,380
feeling pain and hurt and also like an attempt to let go and free

1089
00:57:48,380 --> 00:57:50,420
be free and everything.

1090
00:57:50,420 --> 00:57:53,180
And JGL just has the same like, yeah.

1091
00:57:53,180 --> 00:57:54,180
Okay. Yeah.

1092
00:57:54,180 --> 00:57:55,180
Yeah.

1093
00:57:56,180 --> 00:57:59,580
And then she looks at him like you're such a fucking idiot.

1094
00:57:59,580 --> 00:58:01,580
Like what are you talking about?

1095
00:58:01,580 --> 00:58:03,180
But then she's still hot.

1096
00:58:03,180 --> 00:58:06,580
Up with him because he's gone.

1097
00:58:06,580 --> 00:58:12,780
I don't know this like he's the main character and she's able to

1098
00:58:12,780 --> 00:58:18,060
make that seem real and add so many more layers to what the core

1099
00:58:18,060 --> 00:58:19,300
concept of the movie is.

1100
00:58:19,300 --> 00:58:23,180
And it's just really wonderful to see an actor elevate themselves

1101
00:58:23,180 --> 00:58:24,780
beyond the material.

1102
00:58:24,780 --> 00:58:25,780
Always.

1103
00:58:25,780 --> 00:58:26,780
And she's so good at that.

1104
00:58:26,780 --> 00:58:28,900
She is the heart of the movie if there was one.

1105
00:58:28,900 --> 00:58:30,900
And if there were one, there was one.

1106
00:58:30,900 --> 00:58:35,100
And if there was more follow through on her, I think too, and

1107
00:58:35,100 --> 00:58:40,180
her ability to affect him through their relationship.

1108
00:58:40,180 --> 00:58:43,180
There's a part of me that would have been more curious about

1109
00:58:43,180 --> 00:58:46,980
that of truncating the Scar Joe relationship and providing more

1110
00:58:46,980 --> 00:58:51,180
of a follow through with the Julien Moore because where it ends,

1111
00:58:51,180 --> 00:58:54,780
I'm curious because it is about living in the present and being

1112
00:58:54,780 --> 00:58:57,780
open to change and breaking out of your routine.

1113
00:58:57,780 --> 00:59:00,300
And maybe this isn't going to last forever.

1114
00:59:00,300 --> 00:59:02,300
But we're intimate in this moment.

1115
00:59:02,300 --> 00:59:05,900
We can enjoy each other's company and who knows what's going to

1116
00:59:05,900 --> 00:59:08,300
happen next, but we're enjoying our time together now.

1117
00:59:08,300 --> 00:59:10,300
And that's like Eternal Sunshine.

1118
00:59:10,300 --> 00:59:11,300
And it's like one of my favorites too.

1119
00:59:11,300 --> 00:59:14,700
That's like the whole point of that movie is just like, you know,

1120
00:59:14,700 --> 00:59:16,900
we could this could all end in heartbreak as well.

1121
00:59:16,900 --> 00:59:17,900
But who cares?

1122
00:59:17,900 --> 00:59:19,900
We're like, that's part of being human.

1123
00:59:19,900 --> 00:59:24,500
And she teaches on that, but it's just the movie doesn't know when

1124
00:59:24,500 --> 00:59:26,900
to highlight the things that are working and when to put away the

1125
00:59:26,900 --> 00:59:29,300
things that aren't, unfortunately.

1126
00:59:29,300 --> 00:59:32,300
But they got such a great cast, especially.

1127
00:59:32,300 --> 00:59:36,300
Yes, I think Julien Moore for sure is MVP.

1128
00:59:36,300 --> 00:59:39,300
And then I'll, yeah, I'll see you in the other.

1129
00:59:39,300 --> 00:59:41,300
Yeah, let's let's do a little break.

1130
00:59:41,300 --> 00:59:44,300
You want to do break our notes notes.

1131
00:59:44,300 --> 00:59:48,300
I'll do quick fire notes and then we'll definitely get get to break

1132
00:59:48,300 --> 00:59:51,300
because I think I don't have much else beyond.

1133
00:59:51,300 --> 00:59:54,300
Yeah, he's annoyed at somebody crying.

1134
00:59:54,300 --> 00:59:59,100
Oh, when Brie Larsen was leaning against the church, like she's always on her

1135
00:59:59,100 --> 01:00:00,100
phone at church.

1136
01:00:00,100 --> 01:00:02,100
She's always on her phone throughout the whole movie, but there's one.

1137
01:00:02,100 --> 01:00:05,100
She does a different pose every time and when she's leaning against the

1138
01:00:05,100 --> 01:00:08,100
wall of the church, I thought that was my favorite.

1139
01:00:08,100 --> 01:00:11,100
She gets really upset about him not.

1140
01:00:11,100 --> 01:00:15,100
Or about him wanting to clean his own place is like a big thing.

1141
01:00:15,100 --> 01:00:16,100
Okay, good.

1142
01:00:16,100 --> 01:00:19,100
You want to talk about that now or when we get back.

1143
01:00:19,100 --> 01:00:24,100
No, no, no, no, no, that was like a big, a big point of conflict,

1144
01:00:24,100 --> 01:00:28,100
which I yeah, which beyond the point, which cracked me up because.

1145
01:00:28,100 --> 01:00:30,100
A.

1146
01:00:30,100 --> 01:00:34,100
Bit of mine, you know, thing I've taken on the road.

1147
01:00:34,100 --> 01:00:35,100
Yeah.

1148
01:00:35,100 --> 01:00:39,100
It's it's it's a try and trust a good bit.

1149
01:00:39,100 --> 01:00:43,100
So I'm going to say it on this on the pond is.

1150
01:00:43,100 --> 01:00:49,100
I think what would really kill for a magazine like a calendar for women

1151
01:00:49,100 --> 01:00:51,100
similarly to like.

1152
01:00:51,100 --> 01:00:56,100
Hot chicks for guys is a calendar for women.

1153
01:00:56,100 --> 01:01:02,100
That would just absolutely crush is men doing chores.

1154
01:01:02,100 --> 01:01:06,100
And that's their thing is that they're doing chores around the house,

1155
01:01:06,100 --> 01:01:10,100
but they're kind of like, oh, my bottoms fell down a little bit.

1156
01:01:10,100 --> 01:01:12,100
Like, oh, my, oh, shit.

1157
01:01:12,100 --> 01:01:14,100
My shirt fell off or something like that.

1158
01:01:14,100 --> 01:01:17,100
I'm cleaning the fireplace just with this single tiny apron.

1159
01:01:17,100 --> 01:01:18,100
Yeah.

1160
01:01:18,100 --> 01:01:20,100
You don't like to clean the fireplace.

1161
01:01:20,100 --> 01:01:21,100
Don't worry.

1162
01:01:21,100 --> 01:01:22,100
I'll take care of it for you.

1163
01:01:22,100 --> 01:01:24,100
I've done two loads of laundry right now.

1164
01:01:24,100 --> 01:01:26,100
My shirts in the laundry.

1165
01:01:26,100 --> 01:01:28,100
I got a mow the lawn with just this.

1166
01:01:28,100 --> 01:01:30,100
All right.

1167
01:01:30,100 --> 01:01:31,100
Clean the pool too.

1168
01:01:31,100 --> 01:01:32,100
Wow.

1169
01:01:32,100 --> 01:01:36,100
And the feedback that I've gotten from women on that bit is funny

1170
01:01:36,100 --> 01:01:39,100
because it is sexy.

1171
01:01:39,100 --> 01:01:40,100
It is sexy.

1172
01:01:40,100 --> 01:01:42,100
I was going every every other Thursday.

1173
01:01:42,100 --> 01:01:44,100
You go down to the.

1174
01:01:44,100 --> 01:01:45,100
I go down to pulling up.

1175
01:01:45,100 --> 01:01:47,100
No, but the polls out there.

1176
01:01:47,100 --> 01:01:49,100
I'm saying the polls out there.

1177
01:01:49,100 --> 01:01:52,100
Um, I'm not going to go down to the pool.

1178
01:01:52,100 --> 01:01:54,100
I'm not going to go down to the pool.

1179
01:01:54,100 --> 01:01:56,100
I'm not going to go down to the pool.

1180
01:01:56,100 --> 01:01:58,100
I'm not going to go down to the pool.

1181
01:01:58,100 --> 01:02:00,100
I'm not going to go up there.

1182
01:02:00,100 --> 01:02:03,100
Um, women, it's funny because.

1183
01:02:03,100 --> 01:02:06,100
Not the Scar Joe Scar Joe would hate that.

1184
01:02:06,100 --> 01:02:07,100
No, she would.

1185
01:02:07,100 --> 01:02:08,100
Barbara Sugarman would.

1186
01:02:08,100 --> 01:02:09,100
Okay.

1187
01:02:09,100 --> 01:02:10,100
That's what I'm getting.

1188
01:02:10,100 --> 01:02:11,100
So, okay.

1189
01:02:11,100 --> 01:02:12,100
Yeah.

1190
01:02:12,100 --> 01:02:14,100
So to get off the bed, I'm sorry.

1191
01:02:14,100 --> 01:02:16,100
It's not that good of a bit, but nonetheless.

1192
01:02:16,100 --> 01:02:17,100
Uh,

1193
01:02:17,100 --> 01:02:19,100
Oh, I like, I'm just saying she would hate it.

1194
01:02:19,100 --> 01:02:22,100
I just, I just, I just, I just, I just want to be.

1195
01:02:22,100 --> 01:02:25,100
You know, figure out how much we need to pay for car insurance.

1196
01:02:25,100 --> 01:02:28,100
You know, like those types of things, like figuring shit out.

1197
01:02:28,100 --> 01:02:31,100
Um, it can be very, very small and rudimentary,

1198
01:02:31,100 --> 01:02:34,100
but then like, oh, like you're like, ooh busted and a little

1199
01:02:34,100 --> 01:02:35,100
guilty about it.

1200
01:02:35,100 --> 01:02:36,100
Very funny.

1201
01:02:36,100 --> 01:02:40,100
Um, anyways, the idea that she is upset about him wanting his

1202
01:02:40,100 --> 01:02:41,100
place to be clean.

1203
01:02:41,100 --> 01:02:43,100
Kind of drove me nuts.

1204
01:02:43,100 --> 01:02:44,100
Yeah.

1205
01:02:44,100 --> 01:02:45,100
I get the point.

1206
01:02:45,100 --> 01:02:46,100
If you're trying.

1207
01:02:46,100 --> 01:02:48,100
If she's trying to be like naggy about like a lot of things in

1208
01:02:48,100 --> 01:02:49,100
the movie,

1209
01:02:49,100 --> 01:02:52,100
unfortunately the movie doesn't do enough to do like, oh, she's

1210
01:02:52,100 --> 01:02:54,100
controlling about every little thing.

1211
01:02:54,100 --> 01:02:57,100
It's like, they only show like the porn and the cleaning.

1212
01:02:57,100 --> 01:03:00,100
So it almost makes it just seem like she's very specifically

1213
01:03:00,100 --> 01:03:03,100
piss off about just these two things and everything else is fine.

1214
01:03:03,100 --> 01:03:04,100
Yeah.

1215
01:03:04,100 --> 01:03:07,100
It could have done a little bit more to be like, like, she's

1216
01:03:07,100 --> 01:03:11,100
trying to, to control a lot of his life, but the cleaning thing,

1217
01:03:11,100 --> 01:03:15,100
they spend like a few, like a minute or two really having this

1218
01:03:15,100 --> 01:03:17,100
whole argument in a public place.

1219
01:03:17,100 --> 01:03:21,100
And the, at the store about just using, no, I got, I'll get you

1220
01:03:21,100 --> 01:03:22,100
my, my cleaner.

1221
01:03:22,100 --> 01:03:23,100
Don't, don't worry about it.

1222
01:03:23,100 --> 01:03:24,100
Swiffer babe.

1223
01:03:24,100 --> 01:03:25,100
Swiffer babe.

1224
01:03:25,100 --> 01:03:26,100
Swiffer babe.

1225
01:03:26,100 --> 01:03:28,100
I think I wrote down.

1226
01:03:28,100 --> 01:03:29,100
I was so frustrating too.

1227
01:03:29,100 --> 01:03:32,100
Cause in was really painting her in a different light when like,

1228
01:03:32,100 --> 01:03:36,100
we got to work through JGL's issues a lot of JGL's.

1229
01:03:36,100 --> 01:03:37,100
It's the best.

1230
01:03:37,100 --> 01:03:38,100
Yeah.

1231
01:03:38,100 --> 01:03:40,100
That was like a reminder.

1232
01:03:40,100 --> 01:03:42,100
The Carl's Jr. thing where I was just like, oh, this is paid for

1233
01:03:42,100 --> 01:03:43,100
as well.

1234
01:03:43,100 --> 01:03:46,100
But it was like, it was, it was focusing on her fault.

1235
01:03:46,100 --> 01:03:50,100
And, and, and problems when there was so much presented with JGL

1236
01:03:50,100 --> 01:03:53,100
that I made me realize that that moment in the movie, which I

1237
01:03:53,100 --> 01:03:56,100
maybe really was starting to realize to that point was like,

1238
01:03:56,100 --> 01:03:59,100
oh, we're not going to get into him enough.

1239
01:03:59,100 --> 01:04:02,100
Like this is getting into her now and their relationship.

1240
01:04:02,100 --> 01:04:05,100
And then when that took so long to fall apart and eventually get

1241
01:04:05,100 --> 01:04:09,100
to Julianne Moore, it was just like, oh, now he's like on his

1242
01:04:09,100 --> 01:04:13,100
way by the end, but it was like, I want to see, like, maybe I

1243
01:04:13,100 --> 01:04:16,100
don't want to see, but it like the movie that would have been

1244
01:04:16,100 --> 01:04:19,100
more interesting would take place when yeah, act, the end of act

1245
01:04:19,100 --> 01:04:22,100
three would be the end of act one a little bit sort of thing.

1246
01:04:22,100 --> 01:04:25,100
Can I just say it's, it's crazy to hear you say what it would be

1247
01:04:25,100 --> 01:04:29,100
more interesting for more of this thing to exist in the movie

1248
01:04:29,100 --> 01:04:33,100
because that's what we're doing more, you know, oh, definitely.

1249
01:04:33,100 --> 01:04:36,100
But I feel like that has come up in this podcast before and it's

1250
01:04:36,100 --> 01:04:40,100
interesting to just note that.

1251
01:04:40,100 --> 01:04:44,100
Yeah, in opposition, it's funny when you're like, oh, I just wish

1252
01:04:44,100 --> 01:04:48,100
that this movie would go into and more tense to be a place of

1253
01:04:48,100 --> 01:04:54,100
contention. Yeah. And it's I try to catch myself when I say those

1254
01:04:54,100 --> 01:04:57,100
kind of things where like, yeah, I shouldn't tell.

1255
01:04:57,100 --> 01:05:00,100
Shouldn't necessarily say how the movie should be made or what

1256
01:05:00,100 --> 01:05:03,100
should be different because I really do think that JGL kind of

1257
01:05:03,100 --> 01:05:07,100
made the movie that he wanted to.

1258
01:05:07,100 --> 01:05:11,100
But a tight movie. It is a toy hour and a half.

1259
01:05:11,100 --> 01:05:13,100
It almost seemed like they didn't have enough edit.

1260
01:05:13,100 --> 01:05:16,100
It's up in the editing room. We're like, hey, what if we put a

1261
01:05:16,100 --> 01:05:18,100
scene of him washing dishes?

1262
01:05:21,100 --> 01:05:23,100
I mean, broke the car window with just his hand.

1263
01:05:23,100 --> 01:05:26,100
He's got some serious, some serious rage issues.

1264
01:05:26,100 --> 01:05:31,100
Let's hear what the and then all of my last note was I hate how

1265
01:05:31,100 --> 01:05:33,100
he smokes joints.

1266
01:05:33,100 --> 01:05:37,100
He's like, I'm going to smoke some weed now.

1267
01:05:37,100 --> 01:05:39,100
Yeah.

1268
01:05:39,100 --> 01:05:41,100
I'm high as shit.

1269
01:05:41,100 --> 01:05:45,100
He just made like such like a meal out of like him, like grabbing

1270
01:05:45,100 --> 01:05:47,100
that joint every time we grab.

1271
01:05:47,100 --> 01:05:51,100
He's like, OK, let me try some of that tobacco, wacky tobacco.

1272
01:05:51,100 --> 01:05:53,100
Wow.

1273
01:05:53,100 --> 01:05:56,100
Overacting. That's a good stuff.

1274
01:05:56,100 --> 01:05:59,100
Yeah. But let's take a little break and we'll be back for some

1275
01:05:59,100 --> 01:06:03,100
reviews and our own final thoughts.

1276
01:06:03,100 --> 01:06:05,100
Ever.

1277
01:06:05,100 --> 01:06:07,100
Never.

1278
01:06:09,100 --> 01:06:12,100
James, you know what was on the other night?

1279
01:06:12,100 --> 01:06:18,100
I had a couple of people over and we watched stop making sense.

1280
01:06:18,100 --> 01:06:21,100
Oh, fun. That's so great.

1281
01:06:21,100 --> 01:06:23,100
It's the best.

1282
01:06:23,100 --> 01:06:25,100
Watching that with a group of people I'd never done until I saw it

1283
01:06:25,100 --> 01:06:28,100
at the the movie, like the Pantages thing too.

1284
01:06:28,100 --> 01:06:30,100
So that was that cool.

1285
01:06:30,100 --> 01:06:32,100
Everybody dancing around.

1286
01:06:32,100 --> 01:06:34,100
Yeah.

1287
01:06:34,100 --> 01:06:36,100
Yeah.

1288
01:06:36,100 --> 01:06:39,100
Isn't it just like the best how it's like constructed and everything?

1289
01:06:39,100 --> 01:06:42,100
I don't know. It's so satisfying to see the band get constructed

1290
01:06:42,100 --> 01:06:46,100
and on stage and just see the energy just grow.

1291
01:06:46,100 --> 01:06:48,100
Yeah, absolutely.

1292
01:06:48,100 --> 01:06:52,100
To start the show off with your biggest song, but it's like stripped

1293
01:06:52,100 --> 01:06:56,100
down then to build on top of that is so crazy.

1294
01:06:56,100 --> 01:06:59,100
Yeah. And it's like their first big hit to it's on that for that

1295
01:06:59,100 --> 01:07:02,100
album you got as a record here.

1296
01:07:02,100 --> 01:07:06,100
God, isn't that crazy? Speaking of debuts, we're back everybody.

1297
01:07:06,100 --> 01:07:09,100
Speaking of debuts, I'm going to just jump right in.

1298
01:07:09,100 --> 01:07:11,100
That's 77 talking heads.

1299
01:07:11,100 --> 01:07:13,100
What a fucking debut.

1300
01:07:13,100 --> 01:07:16,100
It blows my mind that like, oh, this is like your yeah, this is your

1301
01:07:16,100 --> 01:07:18,100
first album.

1302
01:07:19,100 --> 01:07:21,100
I know it's tough, JGO.

1303
01:07:21,100 --> 01:07:23,100
You can't be a talking head 77.

1304
01:07:23,100 --> 01:07:25,100
Yeah, I get it.

1305
01:07:25,100 --> 01:07:29,100
Well, let's hear what the critics loved about this movie.

1306
01:07:29,100 --> 01:07:32,100
They gave this this good score.

1307
01:07:32,100 --> 01:07:35,100
They gave it a certified fresh 80%.

1308
01:07:35,100 --> 01:07:38,100
That is very good.

1309
01:07:38,100 --> 01:07:41,100
We've been around the rotten tomatoes black on this podcast.

1310
01:07:41,100 --> 01:07:43,100
It's very good from the critics.

1311
01:07:43,100 --> 01:07:47,100
A certified fresh and then it's a 58% from audience.

1312
01:07:47,100 --> 01:07:52,100
Yeah, it's like the scores I think are like a little surprising on both

1313
01:07:52,100 --> 01:07:55,100
sides. A little bit.

1314
01:07:55,100 --> 01:07:56,100
Totally.

1315
01:07:56,100 --> 01:07:59,100
This is like really at the beginning of round tomatoes too, but I don't

1316
01:07:59,100 --> 01:08:02,100
know I could be wrong or like at least the popularity round tomatoes was

1317
01:08:02,100 --> 01:08:03,100
growing.

1318
01:08:03,100 --> 01:08:05,100
It's got 50,000 reviews on the audience side too.

1319
01:08:05,100 --> 01:08:06,100
Wow.

1320
01:08:06,100 --> 01:08:10,100
So yeah, it's like the scores are in.

1321
01:08:10,100 --> 01:08:12,100
There's some that polarizing ones.

1322
01:08:12,100 --> 01:08:15,100
Yeah, where it's like maybe you're a obscure movie we've done here and

1323
01:08:15,100 --> 01:08:18,100
there that like none not too many votes and like those get to be more

1324
01:08:18,100 --> 01:08:19,100
pronounced.

1325
01:08:19,100 --> 01:08:20,100
But yeah, there's a big.

1326
01:08:20,100 --> 01:08:22,100
So interested what your score is going to be.

1327
01:08:22,100 --> 01:08:24,100
There's a big sampling.

1328
01:08:24,100 --> 01:08:28,100
I mean, I was yeah, I like to always like to keep it fluid coming into this

1329
01:08:28,100 --> 01:08:29,100
record and everything.

1330
01:08:29,100 --> 01:08:32,100
I'm like, I'm definitely curious to hear what Brandon has to say because

1331
01:08:32,100 --> 01:08:36,100
I that always it always changes my score every single time like we go on

1332
01:08:36,100 --> 01:08:37,100
the podcast.

1333
01:08:37,100 --> 01:08:39,100
I think I kind of know and then I listen to you and it changes it.

1334
01:08:39,100 --> 01:08:41,100
Yeah, either one way or the other.

1335
01:08:41,100 --> 01:08:42,100
Right.

1336
01:08:42,100 --> 01:08:43,100
Same goes for me as well.

1337
01:08:43,100 --> 01:08:44,100
Yeah.

1338
01:08:44,100 --> 01:08:45,100
Yeah.

1339
01:08:45,100 --> 01:08:46,100
That's where it's a great, great part of it.

1340
01:08:46,100 --> 01:08:48,100
Yeah, that's what's good about having a conversation about a thing.

1341
01:08:48,100 --> 01:08:51,100
And we've yeah, we've been at each other's throats this whole time.

1342
01:08:51,100 --> 01:08:55,100
Like I'm going to get you.

1343
01:08:55,100 --> 01:08:56,100
I'm going to get you.

1344
01:08:56,100 --> 01:09:02,100
I mean, you have the you have your pistol sitting sitting there on the

1345
01:09:02,100 --> 01:09:03,100
desk.

1346
01:09:03,100 --> 01:09:08,100
I know I got pistols that are going to shoot through the Internet from

1347
01:09:08,100 --> 01:09:09,100
Betsy Sharkey.

1348
01:09:09,100 --> 01:09:12,100
Los Angeles Times four out of five.

1349
01:09:12,100 --> 01:09:15,100
Who would have thought one of the most amusing and oddly insightful

1350
01:09:15,100 --> 01:09:21,100
romantic comedies would be built around the power and potent pull of porn.

1351
01:09:21,100 --> 01:09:22,100
Yeah.

1352
01:09:22,100 --> 01:09:26,100
Power and potent pull of porn, power and potent pull of porn,

1353
01:09:26,100 --> 01:09:31,100
but one power.

1354
01:09:31,100 --> 01:09:37,100
Geetha from Mary Rine Stein, US Weekly GTL comparisons aside, John Sublime

1355
01:09:37,100 --> 01:09:41,100
journey extends well past the shenanigans along the Jersey Shores

1356
01:09:41,100 --> 01:09:45,100
old boardwalk three and a half out of four.

1357
01:09:45,100 --> 01:09:49,100
And from Bob Men Bob Mandelo NPR.

1358
01:09:49,100 --> 01:09:51,100
Angelo Bottleman.

1359
01:09:51,100 --> 01:09:53,100
Angelo Bottleman.

1360
01:09:53,100 --> 01:09:56,100
Get in here, Angelo.

1361
01:09:56,100 --> 01:10:00,100
Oh, I want to be one part in Dune.

1362
01:10:00,100 --> 01:10:04,100
I fucking hate being here, but just put me as one of the sand, the fucking

1363
01:10:04,100 --> 01:10:05,100
spice harvesters.

1364
01:10:05,100 --> 01:10:07,100
I don't fucking care.

1365
01:10:07,100 --> 01:10:11,100
The second George Lucas talked about the walks.

1366
01:10:11,100 --> 01:10:15,100
I got a headache.

1367
01:10:15,100 --> 01:10:18,100
Mel Brooks helped me immensely.

1368
01:10:18,100 --> 01:10:20,100
Any other questions?

1369
01:10:20,100 --> 01:10:22,100
You shouldn't know what's going on.

1370
01:10:22,100 --> 01:10:24,100
That's the point point.

1371
01:10:24,100 --> 01:10:27,100
Bob Mandelo NPR.

1372
01:10:27,100 --> 01:10:32,100
Gordon Levitt keeps things riotous for the film's first hour.

1373
01:10:32,100 --> 01:10:36,100
And if he eases into an ending that's a little Hollywood standard after

1374
01:10:36,100 --> 01:10:41,100
having so much fun tweaking form and content, I'm guessing audiences will

1375
01:10:41,100 --> 01:10:45,100
cut him slack.

1376
01:10:45,100 --> 01:10:49,100
I feel like people like, they're like, oh, it's it's JGL.

1377
01:10:49,100 --> 01:10:50,100
I'm just like, yeah.

1378
01:10:50,100 --> 01:10:52,100
Oh, we feel bad for it.

1379
01:10:52,100 --> 01:10:53,100
Oh, it's not that great.

1380
01:10:53,100 --> 01:10:54,100
We feel bad for him.

1381
01:10:54,100 --> 01:10:56,100
Oh, he's he's so sweet.

1382
01:10:56,100 --> 01:10:57,100
He's so sweet.

1383
01:10:57,100 --> 01:10:58,100
He's so earnest.

1384
01:10:58,100 --> 01:10:59,100
You don't want to be mad at him.

1385
01:10:59,100 --> 01:11:03,100
Even Bob Mandelo is like, oh, I'll cut him some slack.

1386
01:11:03,100 --> 01:11:05,100
Manola Dargis.

1387
01:11:05,100 --> 01:11:06,100
It's all the credit.

1388
01:11:06,100 --> 01:11:07,100
Isn't that interesting?

1389
01:11:07,100 --> 01:11:08,100
Isn't that interesting?

1390
01:11:08,100 --> 01:11:11,100
They're like, oh, they'll be nice because the movie's not so great.

1391
01:11:11,100 --> 01:11:16,100
So they got to be nice because they like him.

1392
01:11:16,100 --> 01:11:21,100
Manola Dargis, New York Times, a deceptively sincere movie about masculinity

1393
01:11:21,100 --> 01:11:23,100
and its discontents.

1394
01:11:23,100 --> 01:11:29,100
Mr. Gordon Levitt making a fine feature directing debut shapes into a story

1395
01:11:29,100 --> 01:11:32,100
about a young man's moral education.

1396
01:11:32,100 --> 01:11:34,100
Three and a half out of five.

1397
01:11:34,100 --> 01:11:36,100
Just a couple more here.

1398
01:11:36,100 --> 01:11:42,100
Claudia Puy USA Today writer, director, star JGL takes an intriguing

1399
01:11:42,100 --> 01:11:48,100
subject human attraction and nimbly probes it with wit, insight and a

1400
01:11:48,100 --> 01:11:51,100
disarming forthrightness.

1401
01:11:51,100 --> 01:11:57,100
And then finally from Ty Burr, Boston Globe, our rating aside, it should be

1402
01:11:57,100 --> 01:12:02,100
required viewing for every 15 year old boy on the planet.

1403
01:12:02,100 --> 01:12:04,100
Three out of four.

1404
01:12:06,100 --> 01:12:08,100
Kid you a badge.

1405
01:12:10,100 --> 01:12:13,100
All right, young boys, it's 11th grade.

1406
01:12:13,100 --> 01:12:17,100
And now you have to watch a JGL movie.

1407
01:12:17,100 --> 01:12:19,100
Don John is on the docket.

1408
01:12:21,100 --> 01:12:24,100
All right, let's go to the audience side.

1409
01:12:24,100 --> 01:12:29,100
They were not very happy here on the audience side with a 58 not too low,

1410
01:12:29,100 --> 01:12:34,100
not too high, but definitely disagreeing with the critics from,

1411
01:12:34,100 --> 01:12:38,100
let's see, Carlo Galluccio.

1412
01:12:38,100 --> 01:12:40,100
Carlo Galluccio.

1413
01:12:40,100 --> 01:12:41,100
One star out of five.

1414
01:12:41,100 --> 01:12:44,100
I don't know why they felt the need to stereotype Italian men in such a

1415
01:12:44,100 --> 01:12:45,100
negative way.

1416
01:12:45,100 --> 01:12:50,100
Seems like showing Italians as vulgar, classless people with basically

1417
01:12:50,100 --> 01:12:54,100
no moral values is a must in Hollywood movies.

1418
01:12:54,100 --> 01:12:56,100
Poor Carlo.

1419
01:12:56,100 --> 01:12:59,100
I can even pronounce his name properly at first.

1420
01:12:59,100 --> 01:13:04,100
Oh, my God, that's funny that that's the first one you read because like totally

1421
01:13:04,100 --> 01:13:06,100
like from Anthony a lot.

1422
01:13:06,100 --> 01:13:08,100
This is a movie.

1423
01:13:08,100 --> 01:13:10,100
Anthony Lonzi.

1424
01:13:10,100 --> 01:13:14,100
One star nothing worse than actors who play characters that are supposed to

1425
01:13:14,100 --> 01:13:18,100
be from Jersey, but try using bad Brooklyn accents to be authentic and

1426
01:13:18,100 --> 01:13:20,100
fail miserably.

1427
01:13:20,100 --> 01:13:23,100
Yeah, I don't know.

1428
01:13:23,100 --> 01:13:25,100
I don't know.

1429
01:13:25,100 --> 01:13:28,100
I don't know.

1430
01:13:28,100 --> 01:13:30,100
What is that?

1431
01:13:30,100 --> 01:13:32,100
I don't know.

1432
01:13:32,100 --> 01:13:34,100
I don't know.

1433
01:13:34,100 --> 01:13:36,100
I don't know.

1434
01:13:36,100 --> 01:13:40,100
I don't know.

1435
01:13:40,100 --> 01:13:44,100
He should never be allowed to direct again.

1436
01:13:44,100 --> 01:13:50,100
Rhett cop, you know, one star, it will be remembered as the worst thing he

1437
01:13:50,100 --> 01:13:57,100
ever did to do that to Scarlett Johansson is unforgivable.

1438
01:14:02,100 --> 01:14:06,100
Oh, this is the body.

1439
01:14:06,100 --> 01:14:10,100
From Abdul Samad Rashid, one star.

1440
01:14:10,100 --> 01:14:15,100
I just want to say stop all this kind of stuff.

1441
01:14:20,100 --> 01:14:24,100
From Nazia body, one star out of five.

1442
01:14:24,100 --> 01:14:27,100
I think this movie is not good.

1443
01:14:31,100 --> 01:14:35,100
Okay, and then we'll do a couple of letter box ones just for the hell of it at

1444
01:14:35,100 --> 01:14:36,100
the end here.

1445
01:14:36,100 --> 01:14:38,100
I feel like this is like a different category, but I am going to use the

1446
01:14:38,100 --> 01:14:43,100
negative scores because I did more audience side from Grace Belman, one

1447
01:14:43,100 --> 01:14:44,100
star out of five.

1448
01:14:44,100 --> 01:14:47,100
This movie ruined my life.

1449
01:14:52,100 --> 01:14:56,100
From Stringer Bell, JGL really wrote and directed a film where he's porn

1450
01:14:56,100 --> 01:15:00,100
addicted fuck machine who gets to hook up with Scarlett Johansson and Julian

1451
01:15:00,100 --> 01:15:04,100
Morris, his love interest, right?

1452
01:15:04,100 --> 01:15:10,100
From LaMia, one star, Brie Larson stole the whole movie with one line.

1453
01:15:12,100 --> 01:15:16,100
From Jack Keller, one star forgot to log this from the other day.

1454
01:15:16,100 --> 01:15:17,100
So bad.

1455
01:15:17,100 --> 01:15:21,100
Joseph Gordon Leavitt was on his way to stardom and then this happened.

1456
01:15:21,100 --> 01:15:22,100
Yeah.

1457
01:15:23,100 --> 01:15:28,100
And then, yeah, someone says there's no opaque text.

1458
01:15:28,100 --> 01:15:34,100
And then finally from Marika Brownlee, one star, Brie Larson during this

1459
01:15:34,100 --> 01:15:38,100
movie was me watching this movie, Side Eye on the phone.

1460
01:15:41,100 --> 01:15:43,100
That was the letter box to sampling.

1461
01:15:44,100 --> 01:15:46,100
There's some drastic ones in there.

1462
01:15:46,100 --> 01:15:47,100
That's so great.

1463
01:15:47,100 --> 01:15:49,100
There's some good ones.

1464
01:15:52,100 --> 01:15:55,100
Well, yeah, who wants to start here for our own feelings?

1465
01:15:55,100 --> 01:15:56,100
You do.

1466
01:15:56,100 --> 01:15:58,100
This was not an enjoyable experience for me.

1467
01:15:58,100 --> 01:16:03,100
Even at like a tight, yeah, less than 90 minutes, I found myself watching it

1468
01:16:03,100 --> 01:16:10,100
in 45 minute each segments kind of about because I found the very repetitious.

1469
01:16:10,100 --> 01:16:13,100
I was hoping for more.

1470
01:16:13,100 --> 01:16:18,100
I was hoping for more things to talk about that I liked and I feel like

1471
01:16:18,100 --> 01:16:23,100
I've gone on enough about things to complain about beyond just like, yeah,

1472
01:16:23,100 --> 01:16:30,100
amateur is directing all around and him putting him in the star role.

1473
01:16:30,100 --> 01:16:33,100
And that performance was extremely rough for me.

1474
01:16:33,100 --> 01:16:37,100
The things that I want to enjoy like Danza and his mom were pretty good,

1475
01:16:37,100 --> 01:16:42,100
but just the construction of the scene in the dialogue was extremely rough.

1476
01:16:42,100 --> 01:16:51,100
And the pacing was hard to sign on for when I knew that it wasn't going into

1477
01:16:51,100 --> 01:16:56,100
a place where like the characters were going to change or grow until the very end.

1478
01:16:56,100 --> 01:16:59,100
And even then it was like, we didn't even talk about like the night school.

1479
01:16:59,100 --> 01:17:04,100
The only reason he was going is just because like Scar Joe, like made him.

1480
01:17:04,100 --> 01:17:06,100
And then he was, what's cool is he's going.

1481
01:17:06,100 --> 01:17:07,100
And then he meets Julian more that way.

1482
01:17:07,100 --> 01:17:11,100
And it's just like, there's a little lack of control over his life that he, you know,

1483
01:17:11,100 --> 01:17:15,100
and that's that's that's cool that maybe he figured it out at the end.

1484
01:17:15,100 --> 01:17:21,100
Like the follow through by the director to accentuate the points to make it

1485
01:17:21,100 --> 01:17:23,100
an interesting movie was a failure.

1486
01:17:23,100 --> 01:17:28,100
Like there's a there's a structure of this movie that isn't necessarily all bad.

1487
01:17:28,100 --> 01:17:31,100
Like there's a there's maybe even a good version of this movie.

1488
01:17:31,100 --> 01:17:32,100
But he fit.

1489
01:17:32,100 --> 01:17:37,100
He like patently like failed as a as a as a director to like give it give it to

1490
01:17:37,100 --> 01:17:42,100
me as an audience member in a palatable way where like I not only like obviously

1491
01:17:42,100 --> 01:17:46,100
understood what was going on, but I just didn't get the pops of the moments

1492
01:17:46,100 --> 01:17:47,100
that really needed it.

1493
01:17:47,100 --> 01:17:51,100
And when I thought it was about to get there, it would either be some pacing

1494
01:17:51,100 --> 01:17:56,100
issue or some narrative choice that was baffling.

1495
01:17:56,100 --> 01:17:57,100
It's hard, man.

1496
01:17:57,100 --> 01:17:58,100
I'm good.

1497
01:17:58,100 --> 01:17:59,100
I love it.

1498
01:17:59,100 --> 01:18:00,100
I'm sorry.

1499
01:18:00,100 --> 01:18:01,100
I really didn't didn't have a good time.

1500
01:18:01,100 --> 01:18:04,100
I was like yelling at the movie by the ending car.

1501
01:18:04,100 --> 01:18:05,100
I love it.

1502
01:18:05,100 --> 01:18:09,100
I came in at the end and I was just like, oh, it's like, why are we waiting for

1503
01:18:09,100 --> 01:18:13,100
this for the very end, all this Julianne Morse off and he's like, he's finally

1504
01:18:13,100 --> 01:18:14,100
figuring it out.

1505
01:18:14,100 --> 01:18:18,100
And it's like, I feel like I'm having a similar reaction to like the Chuck and

1506
01:18:18,100 --> 01:18:21,100
Larry episode a little bit where like, I do kind of want to watch or like, I do

1507
01:18:21,100 --> 01:18:25,100
kind of want to like Chuck and Larry, but it's like about these characters that

1508
01:18:25,100 --> 01:18:29,100
are just like, oh, I'm getting it now.

1509
01:18:29,100 --> 01:18:30,100
Oh, yeah.

1510
01:18:30,100 --> 01:18:34,100
And it's like, you should think we should rewind and get that like act one and

1511
01:18:34,100 --> 01:18:38,100
figure that and then like that would have been an interesting movie to start

1512
01:18:38,100 --> 01:18:43,100
from there, like and then move past that, but it takes so long for them to get to

1513
01:18:43,100 --> 01:18:50,100
even a modicum of like tolerance or in this case, intimacy, that tolerance was

1514
01:18:50,100 --> 01:18:54,100
in Chuck and Larry, but intimacy was in this one.

1515
01:18:54,100 --> 01:18:56,100
And then by the end, I was like, that's sweet.

1516
01:18:56,100 --> 01:19:00,100
That's nice that he's with Julianne Morse and they're going to have a moment,

1517
01:19:00,100 --> 01:19:05,100
but it was too late too, too, too late for me, too little too late.

1518
01:19:05,100 --> 01:19:10,100
And I'm going to give it because there was some like fun little artistic pops

1519
01:19:10,100 --> 01:19:15,100
of like even the stop animation and him being an earnest director about trying

1520
01:19:15,100 --> 01:19:17,100
to like be his best to make a good film.

1521
01:19:17,100 --> 01:19:20,100
Still even at that, I'd give it like a one star out of five, which would

1522
01:19:20,100 --> 01:19:21,100
essentially be a 20.

1523
01:19:21,100 --> 01:19:23,100
So I'd give it a 20.

1524
01:19:23,100 --> 01:19:27,100
Yeah, I would join all these audience members really.

1525
01:19:27,100 --> 01:19:30,100
I feel like not the like it ruined my life.

1526
01:19:30,100 --> 01:19:34,100
But sure, it was unenjoyable and I would not recommend it.

1527
01:19:34,100 --> 01:19:35,100
Sorry.

1528
01:19:35,100 --> 01:19:36,100
No.

1529
01:19:36,100 --> 01:19:38,100
Sorry, sorry, JGL.

1530
01:19:38,100 --> 01:19:42,100
Hope you hope we can still I want to come up with the G. G. T. L.

1531
01:19:42,100 --> 01:19:46,100
of of of his list.

1532
01:19:46,100 --> 01:19:48,100
But it would it would be so long.

1533
01:19:48,100 --> 01:19:51,100
It would be.

1534
01:19:51,100 --> 01:19:56,100
B. P. R. F. C. B. G. P.

1535
01:19:56,100 --> 01:20:01,100
Body pad ride family church boys girls porn.

1536
01:20:01,100 --> 01:20:06,100
Yeah, you know, my B. P. R. F. C. B. G. P.

1537
01:20:06,100 --> 01:20:08,100
OK, carry on, Brandon.

1538
01:20:08,100 --> 01:20:10,100
What do you feel about Don John?

1539
01:20:10,100 --> 01:20:11,100
Don Brandon.

1540
01:20:11,100 --> 01:20:12,100
So.

1541
01:20:16,100 --> 01:20:20,100
I used to hold this movie in higher esteem.

1542
01:20:20,100 --> 01:20:23,100
Then I do now now that I've seen this movie.

1543
01:20:23,100 --> 01:20:27,100
Again, at this point in my life.

1544
01:20:27,100 --> 01:20:32,100
And it was a fun revisiting a movie like that where.

1545
01:20:32,100 --> 01:20:38,100
You understood why like parts of it, why you liked it.

1546
01:20:38,100 --> 01:20:43,100
But now you realize that you're not understanding what's really

1547
01:20:43,100 --> 01:20:48,100
important and.

1548
01:20:48,100 --> 01:20:52,100
It's it was cathartic to go through that process.

1549
01:20:52,100 --> 01:20:55,100
But ultimately with the movie, it is not a very visually

1550
01:20:55,100 --> 01:20:57,100
interesting movie.

1551
01:20:57,100 --> 01:21:00,100
I think the concept that are the.

1552
01:21:00,100 --> 01:21:01,100
The.

1553
01:21:01,100 --> 01:21:04,100
Point it's trying to make is very interesting to me, but it

1554
01:21:04,100 --> 01:21:06,100
isn't accomplished very well.

1555
01:21:06,100 --> 01:21:11,100
Like I'm going to put this movie is so usually I say 50% and above

1556
01:21:11,100 --> 01:21:12,100
is.

1557
01:21:12,100 --> 01:21:15,100
If you have the opportunity to watch it, it will be fine.

1558
01:21:15,100 --> 01:21:20,100
I'm going to put it at a 49% because I think if.

1559
01:21:20,100 --> 01:21:23,100
You get interested enough to watch it do it.

1560
01:21:23,100 --> 01:21:27,100
It's got something somewhat interesting to say, doesn't say

1561
01:21:27,100 --> 01:21:29,100
it effectively enough.

1562
01:21:29,100 --> 01:21:31,100
But.

1563
01:21:31,100 --> 01:21:35,100
Yeah, a 49% I think is where.

1564
01:21:35,100 --> 01:21:39,100
I think you yeah, I totally get what you mean by that where you

1565
01:21:39,100 --> 01:21:43,100
are kind of putting it in whoever is listening to this of

1566
01:21:43,100 --> 01:21:45,100
like their hands of like.

1567
01:21:45,100 --> 01:21:48,100
If if there's enough.

1568
01:21:48,100 --> 01:21:51,100
There would whether you would see the poster or watch the

1569
01:21:51,100 --> 01:21:53,100
trailer or something that interests you, I feel like you're

1570
01:21:53,100 --> 01:21:56,100
going to know whether you're going to be into this type of

1571
01:21:56,100 --> 01:21:58,100
movie.

1572
01:21:58,100 --> 01:22:01,100
But I'm also kind of curious to see if another type of this

1573
01:22:01,100 --> 01:22:04,100
movie comes out at some point, like I don't know, like putting

1574
01:22:04,100 --> 01:22:08,100
it into and this is just what I would like or something, but

1575
01:22:08,100 --> 01:22:10,100
not necessarily with this movie is trying to be or what it

1576
01:22:10,100 --> 01:22:12,100
should have been, but I don't know.

1577
01:22:12,100 --> 01:22:14,100
The guy kind of reminded me like taxi driver or fucking

1578
01:22:14,100 --> 01:22:17,100
American psycho Patrick Bateman a little bit of like he just

1579
01:22:17,100 --> 01:22:19,100
like yeah, I don't know.

1580
01:22:19,100 --> 01:22:23,100
He has such a like or like he's dealing with OCD or

1581
01:22:23,100 --> 01:22:24,100
something.

1582
01:22:24,100 --> 01:22:27,100
I don't I just wanted him to come confront his problems a

1583
01:22:27,100 --> 01:22:31,100
little bit more head on rather than just start to scratch the

1584
01:22:31,100 --> 01:22:33,100
surface of the very end.

1585
01:22:33,100 --> 01:22:38,100
But speaking of the very end, I know folks it's so hard to get

1586
01:22:38,100 --> 01:22:40,100
to the very end of polarized pod.

1587
01:22:40,100 --> 01:22:43,100
I've been your forever guest and it's been a true pleasure.

1588
01:22:43,100 --> 01:22:45,100
My main guest.

1589
01:22:45,100 --> 01:22:47,100
He is the main.

1590
01:22:47,100 --> 01:22:49,100
Yes.

1591
01:22:49,100 --> 01:22:51,100
Oh yeah.

1592
01:22:51,100 --> 01:22:56,100
Forever on he is Don Brandini the main guest and I am the

1593
01:22:56,100 --> 01:23:01,100
forever guest and this has been Don John and this is also

1594
01:23:01,100 --> 01:23:04,100
where I reveal to you find folks what we will be talking

1595
01:23:04,100 --> 01:23:08,100
about next app whenever that may be.

1596
01:23:08,100 --> 01:23:12,100
It is going to be another sexy thriller.

1597
01:23:12,100 --> 01:23:15,100
This one was in a very thrilling for me, but this one

1598
01:23:15,100 --> 01:23:19,100
hopefully well it is cruel intentions and what I'm

1599
01:23:19,100 --> 01:23:22,100
realizing now with cruel intentions is kind of the

1600
01:23:22,100 --> 01:23:26,100
inverse of what we just did score wise.

1601
01:23:26,100 --> 01:23:31,100
So we don John was an 80 58 and then cruel intentions is a

1602
01:23:31,100 --> 01:23:36,100
54% by the critics and an 80% by the audience.

1603
01:23:36,100 --> 01:23:39,100
So we're flipping it and we're doing another sexy

1604
01:23:39,100 --> 01:23:45,100
feature and I bet and reverse it.

1605
01:23:45,100 --> 01:23:47,100
I hope Missy Elliott shows up.

1606
01:23:47,100 --> 01:23:48,100
I hope she does.

1607
01:23:48,100 --> 01:23:49,100
This would be the time.

1608
01:23:49,100 --> 01:23:52,100
What when when did a cruel intentions come out next week

1609
01:23:52,100 --> 01:23:57,100
on polarized Missy Elliott talks about crew intentions.

1610
01:23:57,100 --> 01:24:02,100
1999 it is an hour and 37.

1611
01:24:02,100 --> 01:24:04,100
How about that?

1612
01:24:04,100 --> 01:24:06,100
I love it.

1613
01:24:06,100 --> 01:24:09,100
I love it.

1614
01:24:09,100 --> 01:24:12,100
The premise of these.

1615
01:24:12,100 --> 01:24:15,100
Let's see what Rotten Tomatoes premises.

1616
01:24:15,100 --> 01:24:19,100
Annette Reese Witherspoon unwittingly becomes a pawn in

1617
01:24:19,100 --> 01:24:22,100
Sebastian's Ryan Philippe and Catherine's Sir Michelle

1618
01:24:22,100 --> 01:24:23,100
Gilles.

1619
01:24:23,100 --> 01:24:24,100
Flipe.

1620
01:24:24,100 --> 01:24:27,100
Deliciously diabolical wager of sexual conquest when she

1621
01:24:27,100 --> 01:24:31,100
writes an article in 17 magazine about how she intends to

1622
01:24:31,100 --> 01:24:34,100
stay pure until she marries her boyfriend.

1623
01:24:34,100 --> 01:24:37,100
She's more than he bargained for as he attempts to woo Annette

1624
01:24:37,100 --> 01:24:39,100
into his bed.

1625
01:24:39,100 --> 01:24:42,100
And I just say that every sexual conquest that I do it's

1626
01:24:42,100 --> 01:24:44,100
diabolical.

1627
01:24:44,100 --> 01:24:47,100
Wow.

1628
01:24:47,100 --> 01:24:48,100
I know.

1629
01:24:48,100 --> 01:24:50,100
Could you imagine like, oh, it's a lighthearted sexual

1630
01:24:50,100 --> 01:24:51,100
conquest.

1631
01:24:51,100 --> 01:24:52,100
Yeah.

1632
01:24:52,100 --> 01:24:54,100
No, it's diabolical.

1633
01:24:54,100 --> 01:24:56,100
Most diabolical.

1634
01:24:56,100 --> 01:24:58,100
Yeah.

1635
01:24:58,100 --> 01:24:59,100
You heard it.

1636
01:24:59,100 --> 01:25:00,100
You heard it.

1637
01:25:00,100 --> 01:25:02,100
You heard it here first folks.

1638
01:25:02,100 --> 01:25:05,100
Dawn Brandini sexual conquest are diabolical.

1639
01:25:05,100 --> 01:25:06,100
Every time.

1640
01:25:06,100 --> 01:25:08,100
That's what it dawn does.

1641
01:25:08,100 --> 01:25:13,100
And what a good polarized pod does is discuss polarizing

1642
01:25:13,100 --> 01:25:16,100
movies.

1643
01:25:16,100 --> 01:25:21,100
As long as we possibly can before we've done we've talked

1644
01:25:21,100 --> 01:25:24,100
about everything and we've reached that point and we love

1645
01:25:24,100 --> 01:25:25,100
you all.

1646
01:25:25,100 --> 01:25:27,100
We appreciate you making it this far.

1647
01:25:27,100 --> 01:25:30,100
If you'd like to rate your experience on the way out.

1648
01:25:30,100 --> 01:25:34,100
Please do leave a little review on the old Apple podcast

1649
01:25:34,100 --> 01:25:37,100
or wherever you listen to the podcast subscribe and all

1650
01:25:37,100 --> 01:25:39,100
that good stuff.

1651
01:25:39,100 --> 01:25:41,100
And yeah, we are pretty, pretty far in here.

1652
01:25:41,100 --> 01:25:46,100
We have fun and we're doing the darn best we can and we hope

1653
01:25:46,100 --> 01:25:49,100
we'll see you next time on Cruel Intentions.

1654
01:25:49,100 --> 01:25:52,100
Now we got to hit the old dusty road.

1655
01:25:52,100 --> 01:25:54,100
Bye bye.

1656
01:25:54,100 --> 01:26:01,100
Stop by.

