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Hello and welcome to the Polarize podcast. I am your host James. Welcome back everybody

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to another scintillating episode of your favorite podcast. And this is this is quite

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the app we we were in Paul Thomas Anderson territory. Now we're in the Coen Brothers

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territory with hail comma Caesar exclamation points. A when did this bad boy come out 2016

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February 5th. It has a certified fresh 86% on rotten tomatoes. It has a negative of 50

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making it a 44% on rotten tomatoes negative of 60 I guess. That's how I do math here on

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the Ron Tomatoes math. You mad darts out there. 60 is the middle ground on round tomatoes

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math that's the that's your boiling point. I don't know if they're Fahrenheit Celsius

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and Ron Ron Tomatoes score. They're they're algorithm is something that that just befuddles

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me to this day even doing all these episodes how it works. What it means how they come

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up with those those Numbees. Who knows. We will never know that's going to be our saga

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as a as a as a podcast is just writing writing that wave of Numbees. This is a podcast about

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polarizing movies. If you were wondering movies that audiences and critics disagree on on

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Ron Tomatoes and this one those critics just freaking love it. It's about Hollywood. It's

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about movies by the Coen Brothers and they they had a great time and that audience did

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not care for it so much. But I want to hear what we think here at the polarize kingdom

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and it's not just me. I'm going to bring in my number one guy Mr. Mr. Fred. It's tables.

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It's your number one guy. Hey, how's it going? James man. It's me. It's me the James man

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and I'm back to we're back. We'll be out discussion of polarizing movies. Yeah. To

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a peak behind the curtain. We've been away from the pod for a minute. It feels like right.

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It feels like a good like a little breaky bit a little respite a little respite because

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some life stuff happened at a B day and it's just been a couple of day mania over here

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in June. And yeah, I mean, it's not fully over yet. But yeah, it feels like we've taken

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quite the respite from this pod and I'm excited to get back to talking about movies because

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it's not like we haven't had some time to watch movies and to think about and to talk

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about movies. We've been together and talked about movies, you know, in this time off not

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recording and but it feels going to be back. Yeah. Yeah. What's what what are some highlights

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since we've since we've been away any highlights you've been watching? Yeah. Highlight was

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your movie Wings. Highlight was showing people everybody wants some by Richard Linklater.

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I had a really wonderful day of just having having beers hanging out and watching everybody

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wants some and the people that everybody by me had seen it or had not seen it and to watch

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it with other people. It was really wonderful because it is a very, very good movie. It's

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a very, very good movie. Everybody should go watch it. But I mean, God, that's just

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yeah, that's the highlight. But I could go on. There's been nothing but movies and TVs

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lately. James, how about you? What's the what's what's a movie standout in the spirit of time

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we've been away? I'll have to watch everybody wants some all the way through. I kind of

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was walking in and out during our birthday festivities is when you had it on and it looked

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fun and that Glenn Powell guys is a fun guy. And Richard Linklater has a new movie movie

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with him too. I'd like to like to check out. Yeah, but that's cool to hear hear it from

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you because I haven't really I feel like I haven't heard anybody from anyone who's seen

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that movie. It makes sense that the people you saw with no one had seen it. I don't think

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I've ever talked to you. I've seen it because I'd always perroute the browsing and chat

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and be like, Oh, that seems fun. Yeah, it almost seems like. But then maybe and this

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is probably just boiling it down to simplifying a little bit. And it's probably so much more

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than just like the 80s days and confused is kind of how I always looked at it. But I'm

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sure it's that and and more and much deeper than that. Yeah. Absolutely. It's it's very

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slice of life and shows a lot of different sides of the culture at the time. And it doesn't

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really well in a way that there's definitely some drama to it. But overall, it's such a

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wonderful Saturday afternoon movie because it never really gets too crazy. And overall,

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it's just a bunch of people like figure and shit out, which is just absolutely enjoyable.

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Every yeah, I can highly recommend that movie enough. Well, yeah. I haven't seen the hitman

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yet. And but I'm excited to do so. Yeah, same. Yeah, me too. For me, I finally, for whatever

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reason, took long enough to finish like the very last couple episodes. But I finished

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succession. I finished that. I done it. I done did it. It's over. Yeah. I'm no, I'm

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late. I'm late to the party. No, let's talk about it. I mean, no spoiler.

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No, no, it's been long enough. So what did you think of the ending? Well, I don't know.

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It's like for me, for me, if I were to listen to a podcast and they started talking about

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it, I would be kind of pissed because I just finished it. So I don't know if I should.

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Okay. So then we do. Wait, okay. Then can we do the thing where we're spoiler? So we're

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going to do. Can we just note it? So we're at spoiler alert. We're at 624. Whenever we're

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done with it, we'll just mark that and then we'll just, is there any way of like editing

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back in being like, if you don't want to hear the rest of the I could figure that out. All

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right. I'll do a little succession segment of spoiler alert. My character, my favorite

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character had always been Tom. So that for that to come through at the end was something

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that was very interesting. Did you want that to happen? Ultimately, I was very satisfied

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without hint ended. I wasn't sure what I wanted. I just wanted it to be satisfied. I just

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wanted to wanted it to be like exciting and unpredictable in a way that wouldn't cheapen

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or lessen the impact of the ending. Like not a similar show, but like a How I Met Your

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Mother, it's like you could have just gone right down the middle and made it simple and

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just how I met your mother, but they try to make it all like, well, but actually it's

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this and that and this and making it just, I don't know.

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The shoes have done that. Yeah. For sure. Yeah. And this had a little element of pulling

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the rug out from under you a little bit and then having it settle in a way that I thought

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it did all the characters justice, which yeah, which is what I wanted. So how surprised

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were you that he didn't get Jeremy Strong's character? Yeah. I was open to that being

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a possibility for sure. I was I wasn't sure what, you know, what way, shape or form it

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would take if he didn't get it. The thing that made it extremely satisfying for me was

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the call back to what happened in the first season and then him to tell them about it

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and like the third, third. Yeah, that made it unforgivable, extremely satisfying because

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that was holding to him constantly in the back of my mind of that moment. Yeah. And

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for for them to bring it up at the very last moment and for it not to feel like a cheap

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trick for them to just use that. But not cheap trick the band you're saying, right?

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started playing. Yeah. And then you're like, this makes sense. This makes sense. They're

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you know, you know, what kind of like you don't want me. And you're like, oh, OK, that's

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what Kendall would be saying. Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, it was it was a great ending. And

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yeah, it was a good show. I don't know if I'm like as like, oh my God, Succession's like

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the best show ever, but I'm definitely happy I watched it. And I'm like really happy with

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how it didn't go on longer than it needed to because it definitely had the possibility

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of doing that. And then even watching like a brief interview after they did a little

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blurb after the guy, the creator was just talking about how, yeah, it was a good place

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to end and the way the way it left it and everything. I don't know. It just it seemed

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like it was ended at its peak, which is perfect for TV. Yeah, I agree. And for a movie, I'd

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say, yeah, when we watched repo man together was a blast. Whoa, super cool. That was that

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was something that I had never seen. And then I watched it on my own. I was like, next time

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I'm like with people, namely you and Danny, I mean, I would try to make that a reality

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and the fact that it did happen and we were we were in a good, good place, all of us together

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to chill and and watch it and even have it be kind of background and kind of tune in

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tune out was like the perfect thing for that movie. So to experience that in that way was

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a lot of fun and it was so cool to unearth something that yeah, I just I didn't know

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anything really or I thought maybe what I did think I knew about it just blew me away

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how how weird and on its own sort of wavelength. It's it's it's such a such an interesting

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movie. Now it's going to be in my my lexicon for movies that I recommend it at certain

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times. Yeah. And rightfully so. Like it was so funny watching you with Danny where multiple

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times start the viewing. Danny was like, is this my favorite movie ever? And just would

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like look back at us and go like, so I love everything about what's happening in this

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movie. We're like, yeah, Danny. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. He's like, so yeah, everything about

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this is great. It was fantastic. Yeah, we're all just, you know, that that's why you call

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the ending of that one too. You're like, OK, get in the car and fly away into outer space.

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So, Brad, you just nailed it. And then the movie does exactly what you wanted to do.

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And you didn't even know you wanted until like five minutes before. And then you're

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like, yeah, when it happens, it's perfect. It's perfect. Yeah. That was such a good movie.

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And that's also to just yeah, I'm so glad we did that because that's why I wanted that

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weekend was to do things like that is to, you know, have everybody around watching, you

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know, watch your movies and talking about movies, you know. Yeah. Having that audience

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reaction in something is so fun, especially when it's yeah, small crew of buddies. Obviously

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the movie movie going experiences is so fun. But I don't take a cherish those moments for

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sure myself as well. Yeah. Me too, man. Lots of fun. So speaking of cherishing movies,

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the directors of this, the Coen brothers of the movie we're doing today, you'll see sir

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are I cherish them as well. I cherish them as well. I you know, they're they're part

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of our guys, you know, I've always I brought that up multiple times on this spot. We got

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our guys, right? Seminole directors of our generation that have made so many good movies

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that we were, you know, been a part of our lexicon. And the Coen brothers have made movies

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that are that the movie that we're talking about today is not something anybody I know

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really references. And so going into this, I knew about this for sure. But is your first

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time? Yeah, it is kind of that everybody wants some situation. It is a little bit because

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you're right. Like nothing's a line spot. I don't know. Oh, I was oh, I was going to

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say like the conflict in this movie is so whatever like nothing ever seems in. I don't

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know, even with the kidnapping, nothing ever. This movie doesn't have an air about it where

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it's like, oh, something. There's a big problem that needs to get solved. This movie is pretty

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just frozen. Yeah, it has that element of like Lebowski or and then a mix of Barton

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Fink, I guess. But the but the Lebowski of it all is is kind of funny in that we just

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talked about inherent vice. And there's this, you know, very much more cut and dry mist mystery.

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And not even they tell you who's behind it right off the bat essentially, but the mystery

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to Man X, Josh Barlow's character as to, you know, who kidnapped this movie star. But

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the humor comes in the fact that the yeah, that George Clooney ends up being kind of

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willing and also the people that are. And try that are there is like no muscle there.

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They're all just like fucking wispy communists. Yeah. And or they're just like silly actors.

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This movie is just filled with people with insecurities and are easily manipulated like

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manipulated by the main character. And in comparison to.

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it's like that.

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It's like the generation that grew up during Vietnam and has so much commentary and how

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he approaches things to that. And the fact that this movie is centered on a head of a

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studio loses some of that edge to me that Cohen brothers have typically at where their

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main characters are about like silly, not silly, but like very realistic. Every man's

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like, yeah, it's gets really going in on the air. This era of Hollywood and the studio

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system and having fun with the studio system at the time. And these, you know, what are

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you? What is what is Josh Brolin's technique? Like, what is the job on the door?

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It's something like this guy has some funny name or whatever. But he's a but he's kind

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of like a fixer, you know, he's kind of like in entourage. He's kind of like Jeremy Pivens

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character when he becomes like the head of a studio. But he's not. It's like the relationship

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he has with.

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like powerful men that are funding and who are responsible for the ownership of the studio.

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But like he's the manager of it. Like he's the the head honcho on the ground. He manages

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the the talent in a way that is like is a bygone era because every actor has their own

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separate manager and their own people in their own team. And at this time, they signed actors

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on to these contracts that would make them exclusive to capital capital records, capital

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pictures, whatever they called in this one. And I found that so interesting. So those

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those people would just be, you know, essentially they're players. Yeah. And so like in the

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whole journey of what's his face on so low cowboy. Yeah. All whatever his name is is

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that is is all the humor lies within those circumstances in it and rising up. But there's

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not a lot of like poppy humor, but it's and Rick. Yeah. And when he gets approached while

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he's eating just the biggest thing. He was excited to do this is what I do. I go to

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the thing. Big old like five scoops in a row. And they're like, we're completely changing

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your image. You're not you're not a stunt cowboy horse rider. You're going to be in

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this, you know, nice prestige picture by Lawrence Lorenz. It's like stuff like that. It's just

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it's funny on paper and it's and it's like, yeah, this is I see why critics like this

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because it is it is the kind of like Hollywood. Yeah. Which critics just are such suckers.

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it's it's it's that idea of like critics understand the history and how these deals are made. The

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average person has no clue about the idea of an actor being in being an employee of

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a studio. So that's why they're featured in like pictures or players and pictures that

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the studio makes and also to how the studio is by and large responsible for the development

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of their image as well. And there's this whole like the man, you know, like it's not an actor

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coming in and necessarily being like, this is who my image is going to be. These are

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the movies that I'm going to do. They're going to just be hired by a studio and then the

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studio takes over as to how to grow their, you know, stardom and they're saying, can

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you dance? You know, what do you tell? What's your talents? Yeah. And then placing them

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in all of these wherever they're needed because they're just employees, which this movie also

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in my mind kind of takes pains to make the joke of like, are you a principal actor or

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are you an extra? Like it comes up like multiple times about this idea that like somebody who

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drugged George Clooney's character, was he an, you know, was he an extra because extra

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is just, you know, no one ever knows. You never know. You never know what they're up

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to and then or the person who's on the cross towards the end, the guy's like, did you have

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this lunch or this lunch? Because that's going to determine whether or not you're a, you

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know, get paid a certain rate and all of this shit or you receive certain kind of like,

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uh, yeah, yeah. And that's entities and stuff. And the movie loves all of that is so about

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and interested in like also to a thing that I think in my mind was really representative

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of that is behind, uh, Josh Brolin Eddie Manning's desk is the nap of the studio to show you

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how many sound stages there are. And then they've also talked about like, we're shooting

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on this and this soundstage and Kappa records has so many sound stages. So they're allowed

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to make so many movies at a single time. And then you have to be making these kind of movies

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every year because these are what sell and there's, there is a shitload of like inside

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or Hollywood stuff in there that, yeah, of course, critics fucking love. You know,

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yeah. And the, the placement and the roles that actors play within that studio system

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is definitely something that is, is stressed in the movie. And then the whole crux of it

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is where writers fit within that as well. And it's, I, that is really, it is pretty funny

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that like, it is, there's so pissed off about not getting their dues, which there was just

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a big writer strike and everything too. We're so pissed off and like, yeah. And it's in a

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very kind of capitalistics and it's called capital pictures and they're fighting, you

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know, it's, it's in Coen Blasio just like that. So good. But then, like not getting

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their, their dues for, for writing the material and everything and getting mad at the whole

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system and how they're explaining that to George Clooney is like, it's, the humor is,

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is, is all, all there. It's on front street. Yes. It's really, it's really in your face.

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And then within that they can do kind of like the vignettes of old Hollywood as well. And

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essentially Coen brothers are able to make like three to five, whatever different old

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time Hollywood movies while they're making this and they get to do it in kind of an old

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fashioned way. They got Roger Deakins as their cinematographer, which is pretty, pretty amazing.

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Epic.

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It ends up being, and this is what I was kind of like coming down to in the middle of watching

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it like near, near the middle of it. It was like, do I, is this couple of questions of

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like, is this a better movie than Babylon or, or which one is, which one is more, which

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one is more fun? And I'm like, yes, this one, Halcyzer might be a better movie. I don't

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know, but Babylon seems to be more fun and interesting to watch.

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Right. Yes.

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And it's more exciting and it's, and it's doing a lot. I was trying to say a lot more,

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but some of the notes that it was hitting were, were similar for sure.

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Yeah. I mean, I'm so glad you're more cynical, I guess. And in health, in health, in health

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users more cynical. I don't know.

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I was also just thinking about it by large. Like I'm glad you brought this up about, you

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know, Babylon, because I'll talk about that and we'll continue. But I just want to say,

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like this also to me now is something legacy directors do is they go to this like old Hollywood

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well and they're like almost like can't help themselves. Like I have to tell you, I got

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to turn the camera back on me.

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Well, my version of old Hollywood is, and there's every fucking major director does

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this where they have to take a swing at what, how they feel old Hollywood is. And so in

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relation to Babylon, like Babylon is more interesting for sure because it shows much

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more humanity in the negative side than this. There's very little of the negative side in

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this, which is what I would say is kind of frustrating by directors who have shown how

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with Fargo, how much they're like, want to show the like real gritty humanity of stuff

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and how that can be like funny too. Like how people are like naturally so self interested

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and make stupid decisions and get themselves in over their head because they think they're

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better than everybody. And there's so much that makes sense why that would also work

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in this picture. But it ends up being so not focused on depth and more focused on like,

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how do we just make what was like things back then and being really wrapped up in that.

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And I find that fascinating because it's almost like.

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Good movie be damned. I really just want to make a dance number. I want to talk about

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like the system and all of that. And it's yeah, it ends up being kind of bizarre and

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left me like really in a weird vibe because I was like.

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It's so self indulgent to me this movie. And it just it's clear how self indulgent it is

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that it doesn't care about maybe going deeper when it should. And that was it's frustrating

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to me watching. Yeah, I the behind the scenes thing I saw was something like this was a

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joke that Coen brothers had with like George Clooney or something of like of like this

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movie that they were going to that they were going to make with him, you know, being kidnapped

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as Justice Caesar would just like a very loose idea.

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Yeah, funny. And the commune and by by communists and old time Hollywood and stuff. And how

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was described in this behind the scenes thing, which was on the special features of the movie

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was like George Clooney just eventually started saying that was his next movie. And then people

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started asking the Coen brothers about it of like, oh, so you're doing this movie with

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George Clooney and they hadn't even written a script yet. And so they're like George

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Clooney was like, yeah, and they just eventually had to write that script because people were

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just talking about it so much. So it does have that feeling like when you say self

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indulge, it does have that feeling of like the loose bones structure is there and we

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have ways to to how to make funny situations and jokes and show a slideshow into old time

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Hollywood. But the stakes and what occurs from beginning to end doesn't really change

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much and there there isn't really much of consequence that goes any sort of which way.

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But that's like but that's like big Lebowski in certain ways too. So it's like there's

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a way to tell that story that, you know, even something that is when something doesn't

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happen or something that could be a point itself, whatever sort of nihilistic sort of

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way you want to say like no country for old men or something that's a little different.

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But there's ways to kind of get into the meaninglessness of things as well, which I think they're really

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great at. But this one is really.

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Yeah, this one's not doesn't isn't as effective. I think I think it has some funny things going

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on and some fun ideas. But overall, I have seen this is my third time seeing I believe

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I saw in theaters and one time at on a home video or whatever. But even those times it's

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like yeah, I don't even as it was wrapping up this most recent time I was trying to remember

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how exactly it ended. And that is kind of like a telling thing of like it doesn't have

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a super strong ending. It just kind of like fades off fades away a little bit which Hollywood

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is going to be Hollywood. Yeah. And Manics just like I'm not going to take that. What

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is Lockheed fucking contract? I'm not going to do that. I'm just going to keep keep doing

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this and that sort of thing where you can you can tell that's like where that character

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as Manics wants things to go is where he can self automate in a way where he was talking

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to his wife that one time that one night whatever when he got back.

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Interface. Yeah. Oh yeah. And and she and it's just like such a healthy relationship

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from a for him. What's the scoff program? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Sorry. Yeah. But I was

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going to say I'm sorry. Just how easy of a conversation that was like the relationship

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was really healthy and I forget what my bigger point was. But yeah. For a such a busy guy

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and everything. Yeah. That. Oh yeah. Well then they she brings up the soccer game and

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he kind of because like that was a conversation that they had earlier in the day when she

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calls on the phone of like oh you're going to have to talk with the coach or whatever

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he doesn't want to. There was some issue with it. And he was trying to figure any had an

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idea of how to how to work how to fix it. And then he finds out later that it worked

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itself out. Yep. And there's things that in his life that in that how it's kind of how

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I look at his arc is learning to let go a little bit I guess. Yeah. But that's you know

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it's such a it's such a funny thing because it's looking at this guy that's like so on

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top of his game and for what this job is he's really fucking good at it. But that kind of

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personality that that job requires is somebody that's also very hard on himself. So it starts

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in the confessionally constantly goes back and even the father's like come on man like

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you're not that it's OK. Have a fucking cigarette. Like I'll have one with you. And so cigarette.

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Yeah. Yeah. So like to know that that's your main character that's where you're coming

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from and the walls are closing in a certain way. But overall it's yeah it is feels hard

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to care low stakes. And the thing that is the biggest deal is played for probably the

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most laughs is Clooney being an absolute buffoon. Oh yeah. Buffoon. Buffoonie. George buffoonie.

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George buffoonie. We got to get George in here. George would love that. He's a big

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craster. He's such a good what do you think about that crew of of commies the actors playing

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them. Oh so we got you got fucking Bernard. We got Bernard and he is having a rough time.

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He's an angry. He's an angry commie. Who else do we got. We got what's his face taking

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the pictures. Fisher Stevens. Fisher Stevens. I love Fisher Stevens so fucking much. And

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as now watching this succession. Yeah. Fisher Stevens. Cool. Oh man. He's the best. And

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then you got this the guy from Mahal and dry. He's he's in a lot of other stuff too. But

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he's like he's kind of like has his big big eyes and kind of just they're all smoking.

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Yeah. And then who's taking the pictures. I had a friend with the he's got that like

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cleft lip. Yeah. Oh yeah. I know you're talking about. And then the guy narrating never actually

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like says anything. He says like one line like on the boat at the end but he's like

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the tall guy with the beard. Oh yeah. He's like the narrator for the whole movie but

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then he's just also one of the commies. And then like at the end they drop the money. He's

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just kind of like oh. Oh yeah. He has such a weird oh. Oh yeah. Oh God. He was in a movie

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about voice acting. He's in a bunch of stuff too. Yeah. I just saw him in that show about

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the Clippers called Clipped. Donald's the Donald Sterling. Terrible name. The Donald Sterling

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like you know that. Do you know the on tondra about that. Why it's called. No but but well

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because it's the Clippers. Right. Yeah. There's a double meaning. Oh. Okay. I just in my mind

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I was like the Lager Scott winning time and then Clippers got a clip. It is pretty. No

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I agree. It is pretty lame but there is like there is like a double meaning there like

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because Donald Sterling like his audio is his voice gets clipped. And then all is all the

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terrible awful things he says gets clipped and put out into the world and he loses the

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team. It's actually it's not bad. Seeing a seeing Lawrence Fishwood play Doc Rivers is

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quite is something that I'm getting kind of a kick out of that because he's trying to

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do that. It's like this. Oh yeah. I'm Doc Rivers and I yell at the ref so much that

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now my voice is inexistent. Oh geez. Okay. That's my doctor was sorry everybody. It

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was good. Lawrence Fishwood does a better job. Clipped everybody. Yeah. And then winning

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time went went to bye bye as well right when the end you know the Celtics when I think

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at the end of the second season the fucking stinky Celtics when this year and god damn

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it god damn it Brandon. All right. P. Jerry West. All right. P. Jerry West. Okay. So

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we're all right. P. Jerry West. Let's take this moment to shift gears and I'm going

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to take a P break and then let's get back into the movie. Okay. Be right back. All right.

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We're back. Yeah. I'm trying to think. Yeah. Let's run the cast chronologically or yeah

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let's talk cast. Let's talk the story of this I feel like is pretty lax today's school

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week. So about the cast. Josh Brolin let's start off with him. Man what a delight. Right.

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He's the best. I love him. And in everything. And I think this that's something that I'm

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going to remember the most about this movie is his performance and Clooney has moments

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but you know it's just kind of like little little things throughout. Brolin really like

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carries the weight of the movie on his shoulders and in this one and I just it is a it's a

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stature it's like a physical embodiment that he does that's so stiff and straight laced

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when he wants to be but he also seems like in you know interviews and when he does talk

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and in real person like the chillest dude in the world. So for him to like turn it on

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and be this hard ass like an inherent vice and everything is really cool and I think

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that this is a character that could be really like a lot more boring in someone else's

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hands and with him like everything I described earlier about his arc I think a lot goes

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with just subtle things that he does throughout that shows that sense of being conflicted

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when there's a everything is kind of put on his table and he's having to interact with

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a lot of kooky characters but you enjoyed him at least in this movie.

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Yeah, I mean in my mind this shows you I mean for better or for worse nepotism right is like

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Josh Brolin that comes from a very well acted very you know a prestigious family and he

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knows how to bring it in all of his performances you know because there could have been a very

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real situation where he just only acted in big parts and was kind of a hardthrob at a

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time but I think he's had multiple phases of his career and that is a testament to him

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being a working actor and just growing up in a family that I'm sure knows like it is

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just yeah I don't know you just have a certain level of talent where an understanding of

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the industry that you show up to projects and you bring it and it's yeah it's wonderful

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to see him act I mean he you know what I would say is that he obviously isn't the problem

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with this character it's the underwrittenness of this character because it ends up being

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so shallow and so one note and yeah he's a lot he brings he brings another depth to

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it to make it interesting but yeah I think this he's the vessel for the other kooky

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characters to kind of kind of do their thing and this does kind of wreak a little bit of

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the blank check after they have multiple phases of their career the Cohen's so you know you

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could have a blank check going further further back but for this one I think this or maybe

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not even blank check but just wanting to do something different than no country for old

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men having the power and wherewithal to do whatever the hell they want and then getting

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one getting rolling back which it seems like they just have the best time working together

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the those guys yeah something in the interviews just like I they just wanted to torture me

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again or something like that yeah it's just then I think I'm no country for old men that

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he took his job so seriously that they would kind of fuck with him a little bit too and

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in terms of just like how you know say I do this you there and I was like yeah whatever

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you want me to sure you know and like they don't even catch it on camera or something

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but they're like yeah I think that'd be better when I mean a fucking film it but what are

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you know you just kind of like and and having Clooney there it's like it seems like they

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wanted all their all their people back which they are prone to do as it is but it is yeah

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it could I don't know I'm trying to think if they if this movie if there needs to be

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a like a punch up in a simple certain other way like does it need more drama didn't doesn't

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mean need certain things I think it dude let's do it yeah I think it's you know you kind of

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already said I think it's just like in terms of like just being fleshed out and deepened

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a little bit of what's going on and in overall much stronger finish I don't think this movie

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finishes well I think the other memorable part is the submarine coming up and Channing Tatum

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and then riding the boat I was like that's visually is so cool yeah and I think it's

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the visual I end up leaning on that being my favorite part about this movie all in like

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by and large is there's so many fun visual elements be it the performances of like what

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is it stupid moon big dumb moon I'm gonna get you moving jumps in the wire but visually

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then all of that is so great and you know when Channing Tatum is like leading them to

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the row to the submarine and then he jumps off and the dog and all of that it's so visually

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stunning but all of it is so hollow yeah in this seems like the exercise in them seen

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if they can do it right not whether or not you should mm-hmm would that it's were so

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simple what where did it was so simple yeah because there's it's it's so weird this movie

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for me where I love all the performances I love a lot of the visuals but then I just

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it feels so like lacking where I'm like okay speaking punch ups let me let me try this

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let me try this out well why don't you speed dialed miss dr. Hollywood mr. Hollywood Hollywood

388
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:23,200
hey okay hold on yeah hey yeah yeah I'm gonna put you on speaker I'm gonna pitch you a

389
00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:33,200
punch up of Hail Caesar you ready sounds good baby lay it on me so this movie starts off

390
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:39,080
like a new are right because that is an homage to old Hollywood where this is going to be

391
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:49,080
a kidnapping situation which is very similar to a new are picture you know somebody somebody

392
00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:55,880
comes to tell him like hey so and so has been stolen and but this is like part of a bigger

393
00:39:55,880 --> 00:40:02,480
thing and the bigger thing is communism in Hollywood and so those are the new are elements

394
00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:11,120
at play and in the middle of it there are a bunch of players that are distracting from

395
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:18,200
the main character of Josh Brolin finding out who that is but it each one of those characters

396
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:28,920
represents a part of society at that time no one is ever really questioned through this

397
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:36,720
and this the the conceit or the mystery of it all is already told you up front and it

398
00:40:36,720 --> 00:40:45,360
just takes so much air out of it it would be so much better if the George Clooney stuff

399
00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:52,240
was had more seriousness to it I think it is it is funny I will give it that it is funny

400
00:40:52,240 --> 00:40:59,640
you know like he kind of he could like leave whenever he wants but I'll have some more

401
00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:03,880
cucumber sandwiches we'll come back to the study group we'll figure it out in a second

402
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:08,200
sandwiches at one point he's got two of them in his hand and he's like I just keep up picking

403
00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:12,920
up cucumber sandwiches but I don't eat them it's funny there's a lot of funny stuff in

404
00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:26,640
here but something that makes Fargo so good is that there is this real commentary on people

405
00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:32,960
needing to survive and like capitalism almost playing a part of that of like for example

406
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:40,760
like Bill Lundegard does all of the things in Fargo because he's an idiot and needs money

407
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:48,440
so then he hires a hit man and then so on and so forth right or it's like in big Lebowski

408
00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:58,720
sure he gets unwillingly brought into this bigger conspiracy going on but you get the

409
00:41:58,720 --> 00:42:04,720
inner workings of how serious that conspiracy is like something's going on that that really

410
00:42:04,720 --> 00:42:14,600
is true and dark and and is worth talking about none of that exists in this movie.

411
00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:17,920
The thing that like what it's that is whatever.

412
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:24,560
Yeah I do I do agree the thing that's funny to me about it as well as like it doesn't

413
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:31,040
end up having the the fangs of like a of a of a of a tooth some sort of script or something

414
00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:37,880
that actually is is you could really sink your teeth into but it has those things that

415
00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:44,240
everybody was kind of had these conspiracy theories about of like hold Hollywood about

416
00:42:44,240 --> 00:42:50,400
about about the red scare and everything and playing with that of saying like the craziest

417
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:56,520
things that you can imagine are true in terms of like a Russian submarine rolling up into

418
00:42:56,520 --> 00:43:05,800
the bay and like essentially are like yeah like are are their Gene Kelly of the time

419
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:09,520
jumps into a fucking Russian submarine has been like double eight whatever double agent

420
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:12,520
the whole time so funny and perfect American.

421
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:13,920
Yeah I love that aspect.

422
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:18,200
I think he's like the perfect actor perfect American but he's actually secretly and he's

423
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:19,760
also an idiot as well.

424
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:27,680
And that's just about a bunch of like you lost that dog but what was I going to say the

425
00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:32,320
one of the funniest parts for me was the main guy that's just like going on and on to Clooney

426
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:37,040
is like yeah and we've been writing these scripts to promote communism within you know

427
00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:40,800
within Hollywood all the shit that the Red Scare is so afraid of is like oh they're writing

428
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:45,280
these scripts to promote communist ideals he's like yeah and did you see that Western

429
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:50,400
where the town's people like took over and brought the town back to them took it away

430
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:54,560
from the bad mayor or whatever and he's like yeah I guess.

431
00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:55,560
It's funny.

432
00:43:55,560 --> 00:44:01,880
With these they have like these in all of those that conspiracy is true and these communists

433
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:06,560
are doing those things but then it's so funny to think that they're like yeah and it's working

434
00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:12,840
and it's like no one actually really like notices or cares or makes a big difference

435
00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:16,960
or anything or you see like Trumbau in the back there and Brand Cranson just be like

436
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:17,960
yeah.

437
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:18,960
Yeah.

438
00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:19,960
I'm Spartacus.

439
00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:20,960
I'm Spartacus.

440
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:21,960
No I'm Fartacus.

441
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:22,960
I'm Fartacus.

442
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:23,960
That's what Trumbau said.

443
00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:24,960
That's what Trump totally said.

444
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:25,960
He fucking dirtied.

445
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:39,240
Yeah no I mean and that's like by and large right I like this movie a lot though there's

446
00:44:39,240 --> 00:44:41,600
like fun fucking shit in this.

447
00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:47,960
The whole till the swim having two sisters thing I was like this is great.

448
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:48,960
I'm on board.

449
00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:49,960
This is cool.

450
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:50,960
I love to.

451
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:55,880
They come in and she's she just comes in and she's like and my raiders are gonna get

452
00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:58,560
my 10,000 readers or whatever.

453
00:44:58,560 --> 00:44:59,560
It's awesome.

454
00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:03,120
Yeah it was like in the No Dean song.

455
00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:04,120
20 million.

456
00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:05,120
So good.

457
00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:11,760
And then she in that in that moment that I really enjoy they do it like so many times

458
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:17,080
that it's like are they really doing this and it's so funny that it happens as much

459
00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:24,760
as it does is when she does it the first time is on wings as Eagles.

460
00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:25,760
Yeah.

461
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:31,720
And then it happens every single time after and there's usually a big pause but on the

462
00:45:31,720 --> 00:45:35,680
last one they just talk over the you can hear it calling it back but there's like talking

463
00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:40,560
over it because they're like no you know what's gonna happen.

464
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:49,080
That's yeah I know it's funny this movie can be that that's yeah but so yeah what about

465
00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:54,720
these little vignettes of the different different movies we got the Hail Caesar movie with that

466
00:45:54,720 --> 00:46:00,920
one actor to it's a Clancy Brown I think his name is I love him he's like I forget whatever

467
00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:02,360
Caesar's right hand viewed.

468
00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:08,400
I mean some standards for me is that you can then scar down and her Highlander was directing

469
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:11,400
yeah that's right.

470
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:15,080
What was he directing he was directing the Western movie right.

471
00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:18,200
I'm trying to remember because it was only for a brief moment it was when he was dropping

472
00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:24,240
the money and then he like hangs out for a second and goes to talk to that guy.

473
00:46:24,240 --> 00:46:26,920
Yeah the Highlander dude I forget his name.

474
00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:32,200
That was the Channing Tatum scene I believe.

475
00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:36,480
Yes he's doing the yeah which is hilarious so that's kind of like yeah no Dan like the

476
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:41,400
Jean Kelly thing and like amazing tap dancing scene and it actually goes into the whole

477
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:47,520
breakdown of a dance and then you know wire work with him jumping as well is so silly

478
00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:53,600
and then just the homo eroticism is fucking hilarious of sailors and then just like a bunch

479
00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:58,080
of more sailors coming it's like yeah I heard there's no games like yeah what are you guys

480
00:46:58,080 --> 00:46:59,080
doing in here.

481
00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:01,080
We're just hanging out.

482
00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:04,080
Okay let's all hang out together.

483
00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:05,080
You're just like yeah.

484
00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:10,040
And the song starts like so sad and like forlorn and they're like man no dames and by the end

485
00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:12,040
they're like hey no dames.

486
00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:13,040
No dames.

487
00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:14,040
I loved it.

488
00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:15,040
I'm a big fan.

489
00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:19,760
And the way that's good it's like starts kind of so by the end it's just yeah this dude's

490
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:26,000
taint is in his in his face by the end it's so good and then yeah the Scar Joe thing as

491
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:30,920
well was something that was a part of old time Hollywood that I wasn't familiar with

492
00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:38,440
I'm trying to remember the name of the actress that it's really Esther Williams and all the

493
00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:43,280
synchronized swimming and everything and how that how that's shot from above incredible

494
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:51,240
and that sequence is something that is as bad as a movie like this or like or in whatever

495
00:47:51,240 --> 00:47:56,360
your opinion is like I you know that's not right that's whatever my opinion is how bad

496
00:47:56,360 --> 00:48:01,520
is as you think it is audience side of things or whatever there are things in a in a Coen

497
00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:04,640
Brothers movie as we were saying in the hair and vice as well for whoever hated in here

498
00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:09,480
and vice and say how can you look at some of this stuff but not recognize how cool and

499
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:15,880
artistic it looks it would have to be pretty offensive otherwise for you to give it a bad

500
00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:20,320
scorn for some people it is but there's there's scenes like this and little little breakdowns

501
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:25,400
throughout these vignettes of small snippets of the movies that are I think are really

502
00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:31,160
great and that whole reverse scene if we're going dry as she goes up it's pretty great.

503
00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:37,520
It's also great too that all of it is first presented as the starlet and then once you

504
00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:45,520
hear her talk about her life it's very like proxy very New Yorkie she's very like you

505
00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:54,240
know whatever that's why Don John next time is going to be really spoiler spoiler spoiler

506
00:48:54,240 --> 00:48:58,720
okay I'm going to put it in the notes if you don't want to know our next movie then you

507
00:48:58,720 --> 00:49:04,240
know skip ahead and the fuck is otherwise get ready for Don John next week.

508
00:49:04,240 --> 00:49:10,200
Yeah, Scourge always back. Don John isn't it but that's an easy fun joke to make too

509
00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:17,240
it's like oh yeah the the beautiful mermaid comes off and chain smoke cigarettes and and

510
00:49:17,240 --> 00:49:24,480
has a has a deep raspy voice and you know is berating the crew and everything and then

511
00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:29,240
her whole storyline is definitely a commentary on on stuff that was going on at that time

512
00:49:29,240 --> 00:49:35,280
too. Absolutely yeah and that's the funny thing about it to me is like there's this whole

513
00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:42,200
I always come back to how hypocritical it is for older generations to hold moral high

514
00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:49,240
ground on younger generations because like every generation has its own faux pas and

515
00:49:49,240 --> 00:49:57,720
like what this movie is representing and which is so true across the time period is people

516
00:49:57,720 --> 00:50:04,520
were like fucking and hooking up and having kids and getting married multiple times in

517
00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:15,280
the early 50s in the early 50s like it's just yeah like no wonder why the summer of love

518
00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:21,800
existed because it's a bunch of incredibly repressed people trying to live like trying

519
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:27,960
to hold up this code that has been said and no one is reached and no one's doing it like

520
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:34,520
no one is subscribing to that people are just having sex and doing what they're always been

521
00:50:34,520 --> 00:50:40,920
doing and and in Hollywood I mean at that time you are at the forefront of the monoculture

522
00:50:40,920 --> 00:50:49,000
at that time of of deciding what who and what is is popular and and and going to be eventually

523
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:55,440
become pop pop culture which wasn't even was it even really a thing yet either pop music

524
00:50:55,440 --> 00:51:02,240
was coming around yeah absolutely but nonetheless like being doing the charles and arts like

525
00:51:02,240 --> 00:51:10,600
I mean if anything this movie makes it very clear that Hollywood is a bunch of creative

526
00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:17,440
loons like I am it's almost like it says it in the movie multiple times the main character

527
00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:22,600
of this movie his job is to keep everything under wraps like he all what all he's really

528
00:51:22,600 --> 00:51:29,000
trying to do is just keep it out of the fucking the twins the Swinton twins the twins who

529
00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:35,720
are idiots by and large is how they paint them you know yeah that I guess one is seems

530
00:51:35,720 --> 00:51:43,560
to be trying to be more of a not as muckrake sort of publication or something and the other

531
00:51:43,560 --> 00:51:49,440
one well okay so what is if there was a difference between the twins what would it be then because

532
00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:55,560
if I feel like that would be the first one was like oh I don't I don't go that stoop

533
00:51:55,560 --> 00:51:58,960
that low as my sister or whatever and then the other sister comes along and she ends

534
00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:05,000
of having 20 million to her 19 so that was I just felt like that was like the person

535
00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:10,040
that's a little bit more of the TMZ of the time is going to have that 20 million you

536
00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:15,520
know viewer or readership or whatever listener show you're right.

537
00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:19,560
Well yeah I know even something like that is like that's that's an element that's that's

538
00:52:19,560 --> 00:52:24,480
there all all those things all those dirty sides of things are prevalent even at this

539
00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:29,040
time and I like the idea that the main character is just trying to keep things under wraps and

540
00:52:29,040 --> 00:52:34,800
just trying to like keep the status quo even so much so that he goes into that one house

541
00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:40,520
that's she's getting like a photo shoot done and it's like out of her contract she's not

542
00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:45,320
allowed to do it and he like fucking slaps her across the face multiple times and that

543
00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:50,400
was just a clear sign of like what you know these times and also like we're I felt like

544
00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:56,320
the cone brothers trying to really cater to how that would have been shot in that time

545
00:52:56,320 --> 00:53:00,640
here in that movie because it was just such a quick like close up and he did the you know

546
00:53:00,640 --> 00:53:09,080
just like the I don't know fucking classic way of shooting that's a slap and like an

547
00:53:09,080 --> 00:53:17,920
old tiny sort of sort of slapsticky sort of way but all that all that to say these little

548
00:53:17,920 --> 00:53:24,320
pieces that I'm kind of rambling on about that I really enjoy I'm not sure as you've

549
00:53:24,320 --> 00:53:29,520
been kind of leaving on as well as like I'm not sure if it it makes you know if it makes

550
00:53:29,520 --> 00:53:36,960
the whole thing a good you know just like all these pieces but yeah before I mean I

551
00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:43,160
can look through any final notes I have as well you notice no I don't know do you notice

552
00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:50,960
him of course I did that was fun right yeah right off the rib just oh there it is to John's

553
00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:58,000
he was yeah he was the like John's right there some the money or whatever yeah and the constantly

554
00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:04,000
looking at the watch you know I kind of liked that element of putting yourself in the perspective

555
00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:08,320
of the main character look constantly looking at his as watch kind of made me feel like

556
00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:15,200
that I gotta gotta get moving because it really takes place in a day it really takes place

557
00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:25,120
in 24 hours yeah which is yeah interesting my favorite scene is the refine scene that's

558
00:54:25,120 --> 00:54:33,480
my favorite scene yeah for sure yeah is that what do you think that's your favorite or

559
00:54:33,480 --> 00:54:39,920
yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah it is yeah he gets his moment to shine and it's just just in

560
00:54:39,920 --> 00:54:43,240
that scene like you could have a ray finds and you could have him just show up in one

561
00:54:43,240 --> 00:54:50,320
scene because you're the cone brothers it's so simple and the back and forth and the chemistry

562
00:54:50,320 --> 00:54:57,280
between them them too they just yeah I don't know is so good Lawrence Lorenz drippingly

563
00:54:57,280 --> 00:55:02,440
rueful like all I'm all like good stuff he goes in he's complaining in the office as

564
00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:11,280
well the other scene he's oh he's game and gamey I can't give do it justice to describe

565
00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:18,440
me how do letters it oh Brandon Sables yeah he's game and gamey yeah that's what it was

566
00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:27,240
so simple wasn't it was a simple it would be unethical to share in your own ransom like

567
00:55:27,240 --> 00:55:30,360
Clooney's like well what if I go you know I share a little bit of the money that you

568
00:55:30,360 --> 00:55:36,560
guys use like that would be unethical that's like that's like so funny Cohen brothers line

569
00:55:36,560 --> 00:55:44,640
classic yeah funny this movie is funny all are in whatever his face is is it hard to dance

570
00:55:44,640 --> 00:55:52,920
with all those bananas on your head to the tequitos he's so sweet oh my god love that

571
00:55:52,920 --> 00:55:57,400
and then they have that whole bed where they're like trying like well I said I told I told

572
00:55:57,400 --> 00:56:03,240
her that I was in a movie and then that'll take and then the next sister shows up and

573
00:56:03,240 --> 00:56:10,160
then they're like so we're in a movie it's awesome and he lasses her her fingers with

574
00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:17,840
his I order plain spaghetti no sauce just so I can do this trick to every girl I meet

575
00:56:17,840 --> 00:56:26,160
so funny Francis Francis McDormand the whole editing scene and yeah I've seen a woman editor

576
00:56:26,160 --> 00:56:32,960
is is very much Scorsese you know as a sexism of the other time everything there was that

577
00:56:32,960 --> 00:56:38,480
was a profession that a lot of women really well was editor and I know that was that

578
00:56:38,480 --> 00:56:46,600
good yeah dude thank you yes yeah hell yeah dude thank you for bringing that up fuck yeah

579
00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:52,960
I thought that was a cool little little touch of yeah having a woman just that Patton Oswald

580
00:56:52,960 --> 00:56:57,960
I think has a great bit about about all that but also the dangers of it that I'm like oh

581
00:56:57,960 --> 00:57:04,280
my god she's smoking and next all that film my god and then this scarf was like Jesus

582
00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:11,560
and then she just carries on yeah and then Jonah Hill is on the poster of this movie

583
00:57:11,560 --> 00:57:18,240
and like top build and he's only in one scene with like five minutes three to five lines

584
00:57:18,240 --> 00:57:25,840
and his whole deal and with a Scar Joe is pretty funny too I mean the and for him to

585
00:57:25,840 --> 00:57:30,680
be a professional person is pretty great of like that's of that's something that he can

586
00:57:30,680 --> 00:57:36,840
just fill in to be whatever is needed to be however all of the stuff between him and Scar

587
00:57:36,840 --> 00:57:41,880
let your hands into happen off-screen you know I just a little something else could have

588
00:57:41,880 --> 00:57:46,680
been fun but also I think it caters to that other point I guess of like it worked itself

589
00:57:46,680 --> 00:57:52,360
out in a way that he never would have expected maybe and if he had been meddling too much

590
00:57:52,360 --> 00:57:57,840
it might have not worked its way out you know in that way so I don't know what the message

591
00:57:57,840 --> 00:58:03,040
is there but I think there's there's something a little bit of the chaos with Coen Brothers

592
00:58:03,040 --> 00:58:10,320
movies of like sometimes things yeah go go the certain direction that human intervention

593
00:58:10,320 --> 00:58:15,760
can create more more problems or there's just there's a certain weird twisted fate to their

594
00:58:15,760 --> 00:58:26,600
to their to their movies as well yeah how is it that he gone straight at this point

595
00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:32,840
I mean it's understandable him being on the poster but it but nonetheless it's still insane

596
00:58:32,840 --> 00:58:38,600
how little he is in this movie to warn it like that's I think the thing to talk about

597
00:58:38,600 --> 00:58:44,800
right is because like you know Jonah Hill leading up to this was in Wolf of Wall Street already

598
00:58:44,800 --> 00:58:51,120
so I mean okay like yeah this was after Wall Street.

599
00:58:51,120 --> 00:58:57,760
Yeah Wolf of Wall Street is 2013 so three years still this are you know what happened

600
00:58:57,760 --> 00:59:04,360
before this 21 and 22 Jump Street that happens that makes a lot of sense yeah getting the

601
00:59:04,360 --> 00:59:12,880
Channy Tatum and Jonah Hill right yeah however Channy Tatum was brought so much more to this

602
00:59:12,880 --> 00:59:19,080
movie than Jonah Hill did for the yeah I mean whatever the script was I mean I guess Jonah

603
00:59:19,080 --> 00:59:24,000
Hill I guess it was necessary but yeah for him to be so highly built it's so strange

604
00:59:24,000 --> 00:59:27,800
for it would be so much better for him to not be listed at all and just be a oh it's

605
00:59:27,800 --> 00:59:32,200
a fun cameo idea in its back like Francis McDormand isn't listed there at all and she

606
00:59:32,200 --> 00:59:37,040
had right the same amount of time but yeah the last part of the Channy Tatum on the on

607
00:59:37,040 --> 00:59:44,880
the submarine is is very good and then and is silly silly wig and yeah and yeah and one

608
00:59:44,880 --> 00:59:49,880
of the interviews with Alrin Rivers faces was was talking about how Coen Brothers the

609
00:59:49,880 --> 00:59:54,760
way they write they like write the dialect in their script in a way so all that southern

610
00:59:54,760 --> 00:59:59,520
accent stuff it's like spelled out in a way for him to be able to read it in that way

611
00:59:59,520 --> 01:00:05,080
which I thought was as cool as a from a writer perspective is them not just as directors but

612
01:00:05,080 --> 01:00:10,560
also as fun writers must be fun to read a script of theirs.

613
01:00:10,560 --> 01:00:20,240
I just experienced this yesterday and today I have that Libby app the free app for books

614
01:00:20,240 --> 01:00:25,400
for your local library and right now I'm reading this book called James.

615
01:00:25,400 --> 01:00:33,600
Ah the James the James and get this you want to mind blown it is from the perspective of

616
01:00:33,600 --> 01:00:40,760
N word Jim from Huckleberry.

617
01:00:40,760 --> 01:00:42,600
When was it written?

618
01:00:42,600 --> 01:00:43,600
Not that long ago.

619
01:00:43,600 --> 01:00:45,600
That sounds interesting.

620
01:00:45,600 --> 01:00:46,600
It is.

621
01:00:46,600 --> 01:00:47,600
It's very interesting.

622
01:00:47,600 --> 01:00:55,000
It's incredibly interesting because the perspective of it is like there's a lot of like oh white

623
01:00:55,000 --> 01:00:56,000
people are showing up.

624
01:00:56,000 --> 01:00:58,200
Okay start talking differently.

625
01:00:58,200 --> 01:00:59,200
Right.

626
01:00:59,200 --> 01:01:01,400
This kid wants me to fucking.

627
01:01:01,400 --> 01:01:04,400
This fucking piece of shit kid.

628
01:01:04,400 --> 01:01:05,400
Okay.

629
01:01:05,400 --> 01:01:06,400
Huck's coming.

630
01:01:06,400 --> 01:01:10,000
You know and it's really really funny and really good.

631
01:01:10,000 --> 01:01:11,000
Okay.

632
01:01:11,000 --> 01:01:12,600
It's let me let me shout it out.

633
01:01:12,600 --> 01:01:13,600
It's so good.

634
01:01:13,600 --> 01:01:14,600
Good.

635
01:01:14,600 --> 01:01:23,960
It's so funny because like at first it's like Huckleberry fan where and we're Jim's character.

636
01:01:23,960 --> 01:01:30,080
You're like oh this is like who's this Tom Sawyer fuck like and also Huckleberry too.

637
01:01:30,080 --> 01:01:38,640
Like it's you have to get into the dialect of right of it and this book is so good at

638
01:01:38,640 --> 01:01:42,640
getting you into the dialect of it just like Huckleberry Finn.

639
01:01:42,640 --> 01:01:48,080
I think yeah I think I have to say.

640
01:01:48,080 --> 01:01:50,760
Okay James is the name of the book.

641
01:01:50,760 --> 01:01:52,760
It's by Percival Everett.

642
01:01:52,760 --> 01:01:53,760
Excellent.

643
01:01:53,760 --> 01:01:57,960
Well yeah that's I always remembered yeah reading Huckleberry Finn and in school and

644
01:01:57,960 --> 01:02:00,680
thinking that same thing with all the dialogue and me too.

645
01:02:00,680 --> 01:02:04,880
Yeah it was a lot of fun for me because I'd yeah I'd always acted out in my head regardless

646
01:02:04,880 --> 01:02:06,480
if they did that or not.

647
01:02:06,480 --> 01:02:10,280
That's how I read books is just like I have the whole world in my head and I do dramatic

648
01:02:10,280 --> 01:02:12,880
timing and everything of the lines.

649
01:02:12,880 --> 01:02:15,680
Maybe it takes me a little bit longer to read but it makes a lot more fun.

650
01:02:15,680 --> 01:02:16,680
I'm like it's so fun.

651
01:02:16,680 --> 01:02:19,280
That's why yeah sometimes you check this out.

652
01:02:19,280 --> 01:02:23,320
I should do audio books but I think sometimes with audiobooks I'm like I kind of like to

653
01:02:23,320 --> 01:02:27,920
come up with my own way to read it in my head.

654
01:02:27,920 --> 01:02:28,920
Cool.

655
01:02:28,920 --> 01:02:34,640
Well yeah that's pretty much it I think yeah my last note was that some of those backdrops

656
01:02:34,640 --> 01:02:39,920
for the Hail Caesar scenes were actually the ones used in Ben Hur.

657
01:02:39,920 --> 01:02:40,920
Yeah okay.

658
01:02:40,920 --> 01:02:44,280
Which is pretty cool when you actually like kind of focus on it and you're like oh wow

659
01:02:44,280 --> 01:02:46,200
yeah I was like very intricate.

660
01:02:46,200 --> 01:02:48,280
Ben Hur is a very cool movie.

661
01:02:48,280 --> 01:02:53,200
That was the one that oh yeah well actually I was we watched Ten Commandments Every Easter

662
01:02:53,200 --> 01:02:58,200
but Ben Hur was definitely another one that my family liked the Charlton Heston the Planet

663
01:02:58,200 --> 01:03:01,360
of the Apes we were we liked him.

664
01:03:01,360 --> 01:03:06,520
Ten Commandments I remember being enjoyable to you but been been a while.

665
01:03:06,520 --> 01:03:07,520
Ben Hur a while.

666
01:03:07,520 --> 01:03:09,000
Ben Hur a while.

667
01:03:09,000 --> 01:03:10,000
Gotta be.

668
01:03:10,000 --> 01:03:11,000
I am Farticus.

669
01:03:11,000 --> 01:03:12,000
Yeah go for it.

670
01:03:12,000 --> 01:03:16,840
I'm gonna start bringing up reviews go for it and I'll vamp a little bit here with your

671
01:03:16,840 --> 01:03:20,240
folks I'm sure you won't you won't be too long.

672
01:03:20,240 --> 01:03:21,760
Let's check out those numbers again.

673
01:03:21,760 --> 01:03:30,640
It is a certified fresh 86% by the critics it is a poopy doopy snoopy 44% by the audience

674
01:03:30,640 --> 01:03:32,800
on Round Tomatoes.

675
01:03:32,800 --> 01:03:41,320
Let's check out some scores here from you know what I gotta wait for Brandon we'll be

676
01:03:41,320 --> 01:03:48,000
right back I'm just gonna be right back I shouldn't I shouldn't do this without my guy.

677
01:03:48,000 --> 01:03:58,480
Good momentarily we are back let's check out some critic reviews 86% by the critics let's

678
01:03:58,480 --> 01:04:09,040
start with Richard Brody from the New Yorker scintillating a perorius substantial and play

679
01:04:09,040 --> 01:04:19,320
fully personal Sarah Michelle Fedders movie freak calm in other words it's perfect and

680
01:04:19,320 --> 01:04:24,820
like the best of the duo's achievements it's an ending I'm going to be pondering for quite

681
01:04:24,820 --> 01:04:26,880
a long time to come.

682
01:04:26,880 --> 01:04:33,120
I'm not sure about the end yeah the ending does not hit me in the same way as you know

683
01:04:33,120 --> 01:04:40,640
I do like this movie as well Max Weiss Baltimore magazine the greatest thing about Hail Caesar

684
01:04:40,640 --> 01:04:46,120
is that it's loose structure allows the Coens to just mess around with the things they like.

685
01:04:46,120 --> 01:04:57,520
Okay that's true okay okay now we're tuned in from Jason Bailey flavor wire oh it is

686
01:04:57,520 --> 01:05:05,640
all in all mid-level Coens but as so many others have noted mid-level Coens still tops

687
01:05:05,640 --> 01:05:18,160
most other filmmakers at their peak oh that guy gets it oh fuck that's true that's the

688
01:05:18,160 --> 01:05:20,360
opinion here.

689
01:05:20,360 --> 01:05:27,960
Well let's do Peter Bradshaw at Guardian it's not encumbered with significance but richly

690
01:05:27,960 --> 01:05:29,600
affectionate and very entertaining.

691
01:05:29,600 --> 01:05:39,080
Hail Caesar is something to be greeted as a gorgeous exercise in style.

692
01:05:39,080 --> 01:05:44,520
From Alison Wilmore last one here from BuzzFeed News the Coen Brothers new comedy isn't quite

693
01:05:44,520 --> 01:05:49,560
an homage to 1950s Hollywood but it's not a spoof of it either.

694
01:05:49,560 --> 01:05:54,920
It strikes that tone of crisp drooliness that's their specialty and that some people misread

695
01:05:54,920 --> 01:06:06,120
as aloofness or contempt but it's not.

696
01:06:06,120 --> 01:06:16,640
The audience said 44% yep that's what they did say they said no spank you to you Mr.

697
01:06:16,640 --> 01:06:21,160
and Mr. Coen.

698
01:06:21,160 --> 01:06:26,720
Chris Bowling gave it a one star here on Amazon titled it may have been a great idea lost in

699
01:06:26,720 --> 01:06:29,160
time and never fully realized.

700
01:06:29,160 --> 01:06:35,640
I am a big fan of the Coen Brothers this movie not so much it feels half baked for one none

701
01:06:35,640 --> 01:06:39,640
of the characters are given any backstory just quickly introduced through a series of movie

702
01:06:39,640 --> 01:06:44,000
shorts that seem to be underlying compared to the lavish spectacles they are made to

703
01:06:44,000 --> 01:06:45,840
pay homage to.

704
01:06:45,840 --> 01:06:52,480
The movie was the fact that this movie was not shot in 70mm or panavision or any of the

705
01:06:52,480 --> 01:06:56,080
older formats that seem to pop on the big screen.

706
01:06:56,080 --> 01:07:01,360
These by comparison seem flat the camera work uninspired.

707
01:07:01,360 --> 01:07:08,000
The voice over languidly offers little to propel this plot thin story forward and lastly

708
01:07:08,000 --> 01:07:12,280
the conclusions are hastily and dismissively tacked on.

709
01:07:12,280 --> 01:07:16,440
It may have been a great idea lost in time and never fully realized and major disappointment

710
01:07:16,440 --> 01:07:20,880
from the Coens they would have been put on ice quicker than Barton Fink from making this

711
01:07:20,880 --> 01:07:23,120
stinker in classic Hollywood.

712
01:07:23,120 --> 01:07:25,400
Oh my god.

713
01:07:25,400 --> 01:07:26,720
Oh okay.

714
01:07:26,720 --> 01:07:28,880
You need that Barton Fink reference.

715
01:07:28,880 --> 01:07:30,280
Yeah I did.

716
01:07:30,280 --> 01:07:36,840
We'll do Barry memory from Barry memory one star titled the real flop.

717
01:07:36,840 --> 01:07:41,800
I do not understand why this movie was made it goes nowhere and has no real story I knew

718
01:07:41,800 --> 01:07:45,680
that the critics didn't like it when I ordered it but I have seen several movies that the

719
01:07:45,680 --> 01:07:48,600
critics hated that have turned out pretty good.

720
01:07:48,600 --> 01:07:52,000
With all the stars involved I figured that it was worth the price.

721
01:07:52,000 --> 01:07:54,680
Boy was I wrong on this one.

722
01:07:54,680 --> 01:07:56,200
This could have been a pretty good movie.

723
01:07:56,200 --> 01:07:59,640
The storyline could have been developed into something interesting in several different

724
01:07:59,640 --> 01:08:00,640
ways.

725
01:08:00,640 --> 01:08:05,800
However when reached a point where the story could have gone good it stopped.

726
01:08:05,800 --> 01:08:08,800
Yeah I liked looking at Scarlett Johansson.

727
01:08:08,800 --> 01:08:09,800
Oh god.

728
01:08:09,800 --> 01:08:12,800
But it was the price of the movie.

729
01:08:12,800 --> 01:08:13,800
All right.

730
01:08:13,800 --> 01:08:14,800
All right guy.

731
01:08:14,800 --> 01:08:15,800
All right.

732
01:08:15,800 --> 01:08:17,800
Jesus Christ.

733
01:08:17,800 --> 01:08:20,640
Well anyways.

734
01:08:20,640 --> 01:08:21,800
From Greg Fitzgerald.

735
01:08:21,800 --> 01:08:23,800
I am a lorry.

736
01:08:23,800 --> 01:08:25,800
This is fucking guy.

737
01:08:25,800 --> 01:08:27,800
This piece of shit.

738
01:08:27,800 --> 01:08:28,800
Titled God awful.

739
01:08:28,800 --> 01:08:29,800
A wasted cast.

740
01:08:29,800 --> 01:08:30,800
One star.

741
01:08:30,800 --> 01:08:34,880
It's rare when I have to click the off button on my remote third way through a six buck

742
01:08:34,880 --> 01:08:39,040
rental but this is probably the worst movie I've seen in many years.

743
01:08:39,040 --> 01:08:43,520
I was especially disappointed given the cast poorly written with unconnected scenes and

744
01:08:43,520 --> 01:08:46,240
some bizarre tie into communism.

745
01:08:46,240 --> 01:08:49,120
Scenes were incredibly long with ponderous dialogue.

746
01:08:49,120 --> 01:08:52,480
No action and a real mediocre performance by Josh Brolin.

747
01:08:52,480 --> 01:08:56,320
I love quirky movies but this was beyond quirky.

748
01:08:56,320 --> 01:08:57,480
Oh stop.

749
01:08:57,480 --> 01:09:02,280
What's worse is that we had friends over after dinner to watch it and had to apologize

750
01:09:02,280 --> 01:09:04,800
for such a horrible flick.

751
01:09:04,800 --> 01:09:06,000
One more thing.

752
01:09:06,000 --> 01:09:07,600
Don't let the preview fool you.

753
01:09:07,600 --> 01:09:10,360
The shots selected have nothing to do with the plot.

754
01:09:10,360 --> 01:09:11,360
Oops.

755
01:09:11,360 --> 01:09:14,520
Forgot there was an upload.

756
01:09:14,520 --> 01:09:16,480
Oopsies.

757
01:09:16,480 --> 01:09:22,200
From ARW one star titled waste of time.

758
01:09:22,200 --> 01:09:24,720
There wasn't a single interesting thing that happened in this movie.

759
01:09:24,720 --> 01:09:27,800
It wasn't funny and clever or the least been entertaining.

760
01:09:27,800 --> 01:09:32,080
I watched intently soaking in the dialogue keeping track of the characters expecting

761
01:09:32,080 --> 01:09:37,080
some huge payoff at the end and managed to fall asleep 10 minutes before it ended.

762
01:09:37,080 --> 01:09:41,440
My wife warned me not to remind because nothing happened but I couldn't imagine this being

763
01:09:41,440 --> 01:09:43,080
the case.

764
01:09:43,080 --> 01:09:45,440
Not after all the effort I had put in.

765
01:09:45,440 --> 01:09:46,440
Yes.

766
01:09:46,440 --> 01:09:47,440
Oh my god.

767
01:09:47,440 --> 01:09:48,600
Nothing happened.

768
01:09:48,600 --> 01:09:53,000
As a parent kid free nights are rare and this is how we wasted ours.

769
01:09:53,000 --> 01:09:55,000
I want my time back.

770
01:09:55,000 --> 01:09:57,000
I feel for that person.

771
01:09:57,000 --> 01:09:58,000
I feel for that person.

772
01:09:58,000 --> 01:10:02,120
Speaking of Ray Fiennes I feel like they're going to pull Ray Fiennes and invite that person

773
01:10:02,120 --> 01:10:04,120
to a nice private.

774
01:10:04,120 --> 01:10:05,120
Yeah.

775
01:10:05,120 --> 01:10:06,120
Menu.

776
01:10:06,120 --> 01:10:07,120
I don't know.

777
01:10:07,120 --> 01:10:08,120
The very exclusive menu.

778
01:10:08,120 --> 01:10:09,120
Yeah.

779
01:10:09,120 --> 01:10:10,120
I'll do one more for him.

780
01:10:10,120 --> 01:10:11,120
I'll do a letter box here.

781
01:10:11,120 --> 01:10:13,120
One for the final one.

782
01:10:13,120 --> 01:10:14,120
It's one star from later.

783
01:10:14,120 --> 01:10:15,120
Letter box.

784
01:10:15,120 --> 01:10:16,120
They got it.

785
01:10:16,120 --> 01:10:17,120
It's a little box.

786
01:10:17,120 --> 01:10:18,120
Do that.

787
01:10:18,120 --> 01:10:19,120
Yeah.

788
01:10:19,120 --> 01:10:20,120
One star.

789
01:10:20,120 --> 01:10:26,520
Craptastically underwhelming and idiotic menagerie of silver screen Aaron nitwits blended

790
01:10:26,520 --> 01:10:30,720
with the kind empty humor that brands itself as quirky.

791
01:10:30,720 --> 01:10:34,480
When it's just obnoxious the things I hate about this Coen Brothers movie are some of

792
01:10:34,480 --> 01:10:41,760
the same reasons for why I hate most of Wes Anderson's filmography.

793
01:10:41,760 --> 01:10:44,840
And this last one this last one from Garcy was one star.

794
01:10:44,840 --> 01:10:48,800
The only good thing about this was that there was a female editor and even that they in

795
01:10:48,800 --> 01:10:54,240
even that they ruined by trying to fucking murder her.

796
01:10:54,240 --> 01:10:57,440
I mean she it was it was the scarf.

797
01:10:57,440 --> 01:10:58,960
It was an incredible situation.

798
01:10:58,960 --> 01:11:01,080
You don't wear a cape as a superhero.

799
01:11:01,080 --> 01:11:10,480
That's that's that's a pass a well so yeah I mean as far as the polarization between

800
01:11:10,480 --> 01:11:14,240
the two sides of things I think it's pretty clear we've been mentioning throughout that

801
01:11:14,240 --> 01:11:21,400
this is a movie by people who have been in Hollywood quite a while and it's a their kind

802
01:11:21,400 --> 01:11:28,120
of take on it in the old timey Hollywood side of things but I think it's also trying to

803
01:11:28,120 --> 01:11:32,360
make little commentaries of things that have always been in Hollywood and that are still

804
01:11:32,360 --> 01:11:34,960
in it now.

805
01:11:34,960 --> 01:11:42,720
But through it all I think some of the yeah this the overall story beats and and where

806
01:11:42,720 --> 01:11:49,000
it was leading to was not satisfying for the audience and I think just being steeped in

807
01:11:49,000 --> 01:11:56,560
that world a lot of the critics were going to be a little bit more forgiving.

808
01:11:56,560 --> 01:12:01,160
Didn't work for every movie about Hollywood but this one that it being a Coen Brothers

809
01:12:01,160 --> 01:12:06,320
movie and they did get a lot of accuracy in terms of the presentation and I think Roger

810
01:12:06,320 --> 01:12:11,760
Deakins yeah was a big big part of that as well.

811
01:12:11,760 --> 01:12:15,800
And yeah that was something stuff that they recognized but as far as the story goes and

812
01:12:15,800 --> 01:12:21,840
and piecing all those disparate kind of pieces together and all those factors that are really

813
01:12:21,840 --> 01:12:26,360
cool on paper just didn't yeah it didn't work for audience members.

814
01:12:26,360 --> 01:12:31,840
My interpretation should I continue with my review or is there anything else you wanted

815
01:12:31,840 --> 01:12:36,640
to oh shit that's on yeah that's unlike your review but yeah yeah I was kind of getting

816
01:12:36,640 --> 01:12:42,960
into it please and just doing the ring a yeah we were doing we're in Elden Ring DLC territory

817
01:12:42,960 --> 01:12:46,240
so you gotta bring a nickel every now and then you gotta drop a ring of Michael at

818
01:12:46,240 --> 01:12:51,920
Nicola you know mine is like a dragon fist one where you start banging his chest with

819
01:12:51,920 --> 01:12:56,400
his fist that's my favorite one right now or also the one where you just go into the

820
01:12:56,400 --> 01:12:59,120
fetal position when you can't beat a boss.

821
01:12:59,120 --> 01:13:01,120
Yeah that's great.

822
01:13:01,120 --> 01:13:02,120
Elden Ring.

823
01:13:02,120 --> 01:13:03,120
Elden Ring.

824
01:13:03,120 --> 01:13:04,120
Elden Ring.

825
01:13:04,120 --> 01:13:05,120
Elden Ring.

826
01:13:05,120 --> 01:13:06,120
Elden Ring.

827
01:13:06,120 --> 01:13:07,120
Hale Caesar.

828
01:13:07,120 --> 01:13:08,120
You know what's good?

829
01:13:08,120 --> 01:13:09,120
Hale Caesar.

830
01:13:09,120 --> 01:13:10,120
Elden Ring.

831
01:13:10,120 --> 01:13:11,120
Elden Ring baby.

832
01:13:11,120 --> 01:13:13,520
But how is Hale Caesar James?

833
01:13:13,520 --> 01:13:17,920
Hale Caesar is a good movie I think this is a good movie.

834
01:13:17,920 --> 01:13:26,120
It's not Coen Brothers Best movie and it's not perfect and it's not something that like

835
01:13:26,120 --> 01:13:31,920
leaves its mark in a super deep way on me even something that is like Big Lebowski where

836
01:13:31,920 --> 01:13:43,120
the meaninglessness of it all and the story that kind of goes nowhere hits in a way that's

837
01:13:43,120 --> 01:13:48,820
fun and something I would watch over and over again.

838
01:13:48,820 --> 01:13:56,840
This one doesn't quite get to that mark but I visually I think was really kind of soaking

839
01:13:56,840 --> 01:14:03,760
in that a little bit really registering that it was a Roger Deakins movie this time I think

840
01:14:03,760 --> 01:14:08,160
was the first time I was like oh I didn't realize that maybe the past couple times so

841
01:14:08,160 --> 01:14:16,080
that was something that was made it go go down very smooth but I think I needed it to

842
01:14:16,080 --> 01:14:19,640
have a stronger finish.

843
01:14:19,640 --> 01:14:23,800
I don't know there's something that it kind of peters out for me a little bit at the end

844
01:14:23,800 --> 01:14:28,640
beyond like the summer I think the submarine is pretty fun and Channing Tatum going out

845
01:14:28,640 --> 01:14:35,720
there and everything but all those pieces I don't think are like the sum of its whole

846
01:14:35,720 --> 01:14:40,920
a little bit I guess is what I'm trying to say I like them all separately but and when

847
01:14:40,920 --> 01:14:46,320
they put them all together I don't think it makes like a perfect movie and one that is

848
01:14:46,320 --> 01:15:01,160
on the top of the Coen Brothers list so yeah I'd say probably I'll do 77 I feel like like

849
01:15:01,160 --> 01:15:08,480
70s 80s I know that's like maybe safe or whatever but I feel really good about like a yeah like

850
01:15:08,480 --> 01:15:12,480
a three and a half out of five situation like three three and a half out of five and be probably

851
01:15:12,480 --> 01:15:13,480
be my letterbox.

852
01:15:13,480 --> 01:15:21,600
Yeah, if I had if I had to do that but I think it won't be the last time I watch it I could

853
01:15:21,600 --> 01:15:25,040
see myself like you know further down the line a little bit.

854
01:15:25,040 --> 01:15:30,240
Hell season even if I don't finish it whatever I just like those the snippets of all the

855
01:15:30,240 --> 01:15:35,000
old time in Hollywood stuff was really fun this this time and the synchronized swimming

856
01:15:35,000 --> 01:15:43,560
and the western stuff and the stuff that had like a practical effect to it was pretty cool

857
01:15:43,560 --> 01:15:45,560
pretty cool.

858
01:15:45,560 --> 01:15:48,360
Give it a 77.

859
01:15:48,360 --> 01:15:53,440
No I just want to you brandy.

860
01:15:53,440 --> 01:15:57,600
So I just posted my letterbox I might be doing this from here on out.

861
01:15:57,600 --> 01:16:02,600
I'm gonna post my letterbox live letterbox review live letterbox review.

862
01:16:02,600 --> 01:16:15,080
So I gave this so my letterbox review is this

863
01:16:15,080 --> 01:16:17,040
it's a two and a half stars.

864
01:16:17,040 --> 01:16:18,040
Okay.

865
01:16:18,040 --> 01:16:22,360
It's two and a half stars.

866
01:16:22,360 --> 01:16:30,040
And my review is there was some fun people had back then.

867
01:16:30,040 --> 01:16:35,040
Say that one more time.

868
01:16:35,040 --> 01:16:42,680
Or that it's worth so simple.

869
01:16:42,680 --> 01:16:44,000
Exactly.

870
01:16:44,000 --> 01:16:47,640
There was some fun people had back then.

871
01:16:47,640 --> 01:16:52,640
Yeah.

872
01:16:52,640 --> 01:16:53,640
Yeah.

873
01:16:53,640 --> 01:16:54,640
Exactly.

874
01:16:54,640 --> 01:16:58,120
And two and a half stars.

875
01:16:58,120 --> 01:17:00,280
So how does that translate into to mate?

876
01:17:00,280 --> 01:17:04,400
So you're going straight 50 then.

877
01:17:04,400 --> 01:17:08,400
Is that how the star system translates to the popcorn system?

878
01:17:08,400 --> 01:17:12,920
We talked at the very beginning of my intro how rotten tomatoes math is hard.

879
01:17:12,920 --> 01:17:13,920
Yeah.

880
01:17:13,920 --> 01:17:18,200
It's definitely not that review is its review.

881
01:17:18,200 --> 01:17:19,200
This is this.

882
01:17:19,200 --> 01:17:21,560
That's your letterbox percent.

883
01:17:21,560 --> 01:17:22,560
Yeah.

884
01:17:22,560 --> 01:17:23,560
Okay.

885
01:17:23,560 --> 01:17:24,560
Exactly.

886
01:17:24,560 --> 01:17:26,560
It's a different guy.

887
01:17:26,560 --> 01:17:27,560
Gotcha.

888
01:17:27,560 --> 01:17:28,560
Okay.

889
01:17:28,560 --> 01:17:29,560
So I'm not beholden to that.

890
01:17:29,560 --> 01:17:35,760
I just want to let you know that's what my letterbox was.

891
01:17:35,760 --> 01:17:43,520
So for me for this movie is there's so there's a lot of fun that I had in this

892
01:17:43,520 --> 01:17:51,360
movie, but it is because of the appreciation for old Hollywood, which is an interesting

893
01:17:51,360 --> 01:17:58,720
thing for a director like them to do is to talk about their like a fatuation with making

894
01:17:58,720 --> 01:18:04,880
movies for them being interested in making movies and what is what they're all about.

895
01:18:04,880 --> 01:18:12,600
And there are interesting things that they are focusing on in this movie, but they have

896
01:18:12,600 --> 01:18:16,680
spent zero time actually analyzing how they feel about this.

897
01:18:16,680 --> 01:18:25,520
So this ends up just becoming a very like in self indulgent movie.

898
01:18:25,520 --> 01:18:32,040
And in the grand scheme of things, what I love about the Coen Brothers is representative

899
01:18:32,040 --> 01:18:36,760
in this movie for sure visually agreed.

900
01:18:36,760 --> 01:18:45,760
But the like commentary, the like, you know, it's not there.

901
01:18:45,760 --> 01:18:46,760
It's not there at all.

902
01:18:46,760 --> 01:18:54,480
And so I just I kind of don't respect the movie a little bit that they did that where

903
01:18:54,480 --> 01:19:02,760
their take on old Hollywood has so little teeth for directors that made Fargo like you

904
01:19:02,760 --> 01:19:09,200
should have teeth into this big Lebowski teeth and a wine.

905
01:19:09,200 --> 01:19:12,400
I mean, that's a little more claustrophobic.

906
01:19:12,400 --> 01:19:13,400
Yeah.

907
01:19:13,400 --> 01:19:17,320
And I think OK.

908
01:19:17,320 --> 01:19:19,040
Not about the whole system as much.

909
01:19:19,040 --> 01:19:20,840
But yeah.

910
01:19:20,840 --> 01:19:26,080
So but yeah.

911
01:19:26,080 --> 01:19:33,040
The perspective of this movie is not that interesting, but the visuals are really great.

912
01:19:33,040 --> 01:19:37,920
And there are some really funny stuff in this that I yeah, I I L O L.

913
01:19:37,920 --> 01:19:42,200
OK, so yeah, I'm fucking L O L.

914
01:19:42,200 --> 01:19:44,840
You you ruffled.

915
01:19:44,840 --> 01:19:52,200
So but nonetheless, I'm going to give this a 70 percent.

916
01:19:52,200 --> 01:19:53,200
Nice.

917
01:19:53,200 --> 01:19:54,200
Respect.

918
01:19:54,200 --> 01:19:55,200
Yeah.

919
01:19:55,200 --> 01:20:01,000
I think it's it's a solid it's a solid flick.

920
01:20:01,000 --> 01:20:04,920
And it is something that I feel like Coen Brothers.

921
01:20:04,920 --> 01:20:09,320
For them, that one guy or whatever you said is like it's not it's like mid level Coen

922
01:20:09,320 --> 01:20:11,400
Brothers, maybe, but it's also it's Coen Brothers.

923
01:20:11,400 --> 01:20:15,520
So yeah, that base level, it's still going to be pretty watchable.

924
01:20:15,520 --> 01:20:20,240
And I found myself really kind of tuned in and some of our movies I'll take a break and

925
01:20:20,240 --> 01:20:23,800
something and come back and or make it a two parter.

926
01:20:23,800 --> 01:20:28,000
And this one, yeah, it was pretty, pretty simple to just kind of take take it on.

927
01:20:28,000 --> 01:20:31,160
And I think it was like an hour 40 and it was.

928
01:20:31,160 --> 01:20:32,280
Yeah, pretty fun.

929
01:20:32,280 --> 01:20:33,480
And love it for it.

930
01:20:33,480 --> 01:20:34,280
Yeah.

931
01:20:34,280 --> 01:20:38,440
Yeah. And we that was our Coen Brothers app.

932
01:20:38,440 --> 01:20:39,320
We did a Coen Brothers.

933
01:20:39,320 --> 01:20:45,160
We did a PTA, I feel so esteemed and sophisticated.

934
01:20:45,160 --> 01:20:47,800
And OK, so like a real film, bro.

935
01:20:48,320 --> 01:20:51,800
So to the film, bro thing is between the two.

936
01:20:51,800 --> 01:20:53,760
How do you feel about them?

937
01:20:53,760 --> 01:20:56,280
You know, like what one did you like more?

938
01:20:56,280 --> 01:20:57,920
Oh, and here and vice.

939
01:20:57,920 --> 01:20:59,000
Absolutely. And why?

940
01:20:59,000 --> 01:21:03,040
And why that one has grown?

941
01:21:03,080 --> 01:21:06,920
I yeah, I think I've seen them both three times, maybe the first time in here.

942
01:21:06,920 --> 01:21:08,680
And by Sunday, I didn't get all the way through.

943
01:21:08,680 --> 01:21:12,200
But essentially three times in here and vice, like is just getting better and

944
01:21:12,200 --> 01:21:14,040
better each time I watch it kind of.

945
01:21:14,040 --> 01:21:16,440
Oh, and I don't see that.

946
01:21:16,560 --> 01:21:20,840
He'll hail Caesar has that much depth for me to go back and be like, oh, I never

947
01:21:20,840 --> 01:21:23,360
noticed this or, oh, you know, maybe there would be certain little things.

948
01:21:23,360 --> 01:21:29,400
But, you know, just inherent vice is something that I'm sure you would say

949
01:21:29,520 --> 01:21:33,840
that tenfold about the actual book inherent vice is that you can just keep

950
01:21:33,840 --> 01:21:36,720
on digging into that and find new things.

951
01:21:36,720 --> 01:21:39,440
And that is very dense.

952
01:21:39,440 --> 01:21:41,720
And this is not so much.

953
01:21:41,720 --> 01:21:43,760
It's it's pretty surface level.

954
01:21:43,760 --> 01:21:47,000
Yeah, he'll see jazz like some fun some fun

955
01:21:47,000 --> 01:21:51,360
comedy stuff, but all that is just like playing on the on some of the surface

956
01:21:51,360 --> 01:21:53,640
level things that we already kind of know about Old Hollywood.

957
01:21:53,640 --> 01:21:57,280
And if you want something with teeth, yeah, I guess that was the Babylon thing

958
01:21:57,280 --> 01:21:59,080
of it all too. Yeah, totally.

959
01:21:59,080 --> 01:22:01,000
Of having of showing Old Hollywood.

960
01:22:01,000 --> 01:22:05,680
That was like totally really like showing you those ugly, ugly sides as well.

961
01:22:05,680 --> 01:22:10,400
But then by the end, it's like, aren't movies the best thing ever?

962
01:22:10,440 --> 01:22:16,280
You know, it's able to show kind of the worst love movies here.

963
01:22:16,280 --> 01:22:18,880
And it's so sincere and how it does it.

964
01:22:18,880 --> 01:22:21,400
And yeah, I guess he'll see Zerzea a little bit.

965
01:22:21,720 --> 01:22:24,040
Yeah, they're kind of cynical kind of kind of guys.

966
01:22:24,040 --> 01:22:30,120
But if you can see George Clooney acting like a fucking idiot, it's it's pretty fun too.

967
01:22:30,560 --> 01:22:33,560
All right. Well, we've had a blaster as always.

968
01:22:33,560 --> 01:22:35,920
We love movies. We love those movies.

969
01:22:35,920 --> 01:22:38,120
Love those movies.

970
01:22:38,120 --> 01:22:42,000
Speaking of which, we're going to talk about another one next time.

971
01:22:42,000 --> 01:22:46,800
You already heard it earlier on or if you missed the spoiler alert,

972
01:22:46,800 --> 01:22:50,400
we are doing Don John, baby.

973
01:22:50,760 --> 01:22:53,400
A Joe Joe, go live.

974
01:22:53,400 --> 01:22:55,160
Oh, dude.

975
01:22:55,160 --> 01:22:58,560
Let's go. Joe, go live.

976
01:22:59,320 --> 01:23:02,120
Scarred. Let's fucking scar Joe.

977
01:23:02,880 --> 01:23:04,320
Let's fucking Julianne.

978
01:23:04,320 --> 01:23:08,680
Oh, let's fucking toe toe dance.

979
01:23:08,680 --> 01:23:11,480
Oh, yeah.

980
01:23:11,480 --> 01:23:13,720
Wow, Brie Larson. Look at all these peeps.

981
01:23:15,480 --> 01:23:16,800
This is a movie.

982
01:23:16,800 --> 01:23:18,800
If you don't know what Don John is, yeah, it's Justin Gordon.

983
01:23:18,800 --> 01:23:21,560
Love it. He wrote and direct directed it.

984
01:23:22,360 --> 01:23:23,800
What is it? Say on the road?

985
01:23:23,800 --> 01:23:26,000
And you're on your.

986
01:23:26,000 --> 01:23:31,480
Premise here, it says New Jersey bartender John Martello knows what's important.

987
01:23:31,720 --> 01:23:38,800
His friends, his family, his car, his church, his sexual conquests and porn.

988
01:23:38,800 --> 01:23:42,720
In fact, John is a porn addict and has never had a genuine relationship with a woman.

989
01:23:43,080 --> 01:23:46,960
However, when he meets Barbara, he has to change his operating methods

990
01:23:46,960 --> 01:23:49,280
because Barbara won't be bedded easily.

991
01:23:50,280 --> 01:23:53,760
For the first time in his life, John begins a real courtship,

992
01:23:53,760 --> 01:23:57,000
but his obsession with erotica threatens to ruin everything.

993
01:23:57,440 --> 01:23:59,360
Wow. Who wrote that?

994
01:23:59,360 --> 01:24:06,320
I'm so glad I got to see you realize what this movie is about.

995
01:24:06,320 --> 01:24:07,720
I remember when this came out.

996
01:24:07,720 --> 01:24:11,640
Yeah, I just never had no idea that that's what it's going to be about.

997
01:24:12,040 --> 01:24:14,720
Kind of. I remember seeing the trailer when it was coming out.

998
01:24:14,720 --> 01:24:17,640
I knew it was kind of like had to do with the porn obsession.

999
01:24:17,640 --> 01:24:18,640
Or yeah.

1000
01:24:19,440 --> 01:24:21,360
And then what Julian Morris is, mom.

1001
01:24:26,160 --> 01:24:27,640
OK, well, we'll find out.

1002
01:24:27,640 --> 01:24:29,400
Hell yeah. All right.

1003
01:24:29,400 --> 01:24:31,440
Don John, John Don.

1004
01:24:31,440 --> 01:24:33,720
Brandon, John.

1005
01:24:33,720 --> 01:24:35,800
That's what I'm going to call you next time.

1006
01:24:35,800 --> 01:24:38,040
Remind me of Brandon John.

1007
01:24:38,040 --> 01:24:40,520
It's been a true pleasure, as I like to say.

1008
01:24:41,440 --> 01:24:43,480
Yeah, it's oh, did I even give those scores?

1009
01:24:43,480 --> 01:24:47,000
Is 80 80 percent by the critics for this movie, Don John?

1010
01:24:47,000 --> 01:24:48,560
And if 58 percent by the audience.

1011
01:24:49,880 --> 01:24:51,320
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1012
01:24:51,320 --> 01:24:54,880
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1013
01:24:55,320 --> 01:24:56,520
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1014
01:24:56,520 --> 01:24:59,760
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1015
01:24:59,760 --> 01:25:04,640
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1016
01:25:04,640 --> 01:25:08,640
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1017
01:25:08,640 --> 01:25:13,680
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1018
01:25:13,680 --> 01:25:16,720
And and we hope you've enjoyed yourself.

1019
01:25:16,720 --> 01:25:18,840
Brandon, to you. Good, sir.

1020
01:25:19,560 --> 01:25:23,000
Have a wonderful night and I will see you next time.

1021
01:25:23,000 --> 01:25:24,000
Oh.

1022
01:25:25,000 --> 01:25:27,000
Bye bye.

1023
01:25:27,000 --> 01:25:30,000
Bye bye.