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Welcome, everybody, to the Polar Eyes to podcast.

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This is one of those movies.

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Movie podcast movies, movie podcasts, where we talk about

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certain movies.

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This podcast in particular, we talk about polarizing movies

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and polarizing movies in the sense of rotten tomato scores.

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Sometimes critics love it.

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Not audience, hate it or vice versa.

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And yeah, those are the movies that we talk about.

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So I'm like, fucking get ready.

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This is going to be a very cool episode.

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And mind you, so if you're just, you know,

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tuning in for the first time, good on you, because this is going to be a

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very groovy time.

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We're talking today about in her advice, speaking of groovy.

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This is a Paul Thomas Anderson movie.

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This was made in 2016.

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And then for those numbers, we got critics like in it.

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Seventy four percent.

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Not that surprising.

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Audiences not liking it.

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Fifty three percent also not surprising.

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And yeah, we're we're going to get into it today.

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We're probably going to get real into it.

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It's going to, yeah, it's going to get a little more crazy, I think, maybe.

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But yeah, I'm not the only one here.

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You're not going to just be.

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Listen to this voice.

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I know I know maybe some people were like,

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oh, that would be kind of good.

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But, you know, it's that's not going to be the case.

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Sorry to break it to you, those zero people.

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I am going to be joined by.

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Well, I'll just OK.

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I'm going to I'm going to legit on this.

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Not just one person, but two.

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But before we get into that, I would like to introduce my cohost.

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We also refer to him as the forever guest.

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Mr. James Lindsay, how's it going?

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I'm going off scripts. That's what I'm doing.

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You mentioned two people and I want to bring us in together.

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Danny, can we hold hands together as we walk into this?

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I don't think this is happening.

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I'm breaking formula. I'm president.

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And you already mentioned, and I just I feel like it would be wrong

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for me to walk out on stage in front of all these people alone.

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Yeah. Yeah. No, hand in hand.

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We go with God. OK.

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I love this approach and hey, Danny, welcome back.

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For people who don't know, he is like the specter of this podcast.

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That's some of the podcast.

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He is like the Mickey.

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Mickey Burge.

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Mickey will never kind of this podcast.

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You know, the Jersey Devil, the Jersey Devil, the two.

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I like the.

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Yeah, you're a class.

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You're a class. Yeah.

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No, you're a force of nature.

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No, you're a force of nature.

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You're a force of nature.

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And we don't know what, you know, what form you're going to take at which time.

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But there's been tales in the polarized kingdom of one

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Danny Burge who started the kingdom and people worship the idols.

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So you guys, you guys started it.

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I'm the same.

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You're acting like a blessing bride right now.

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Yeah, you're the you're the Oracle.

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You're yeah.

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You were the godfather of this podcast.

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And so I wasn't expecting the.

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Podfather, the Podfather.

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I wasn't expecting the intro of both.

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But I don't think that's ever been done in podcasting.

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So I want to commend us for doing that.

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This is a cool.

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I had a thing, though.

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I had a thing, though, that I wanted to say before.

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But Danny was introduced.

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And now I'll just say it now is Danny.

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Keep the shenanigans to a minimum.

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OK, you got me.

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You got me. You got me. All right.

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This is a real.

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The fact. This is a real big foot dog dynamic here.

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You want to do this one by the books, man?

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Like, you know, I like I dig what you're trying to do.

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But, you know, you can't you can't tell a sheep to not buy, you know,

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you can't can't tell what you could.

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You can't tell the big dog to not eat, man.

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Like, wow.

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You know what, Danny?

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Give me your badge.

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Give me your badge and give me your gun.

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Right. You're off the force.

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My badge and my joint.

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No, you're gone.

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That's for later.

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You know what, man?

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Like, I I I I don't need these anyway, you know, like my kind of justice

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is you can't you can't you can't contain in your little book over there.

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Yeah. Well, you shouldn't be telling us that.

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And it's a very big book for your information.

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Look at how big this hardcover book of lies.

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I have many leather bound law books.

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Why would a well read person?

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Well, what's a law book to a loose cannon?

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You know, what's it got to a nonbeliever?

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A rocky paper, baby.

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I wait. No, no.

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But it'd be scissors and you know what I'm going with this.

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Like, I mean, you put a cannonball to a book and like, so.

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All right.

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You're going to always.

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All right. Here's your badge.

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You're right. Like I was saying, the should be your back on the policy.

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We're going to have to because in the read and here's the thing, man,

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is I love the shenanigans and that's in I think everybody loves the shenanigans.

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But we have a lot of to get through.

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You know, this is this is a lengthy movie that continues to just pause it.

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Wackadoo ideas and interesting characters all the way throughout it.

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And it's a goofy ride. Yeah.

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It is silly. No, it's not.

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Wait, did you watch a goofy movie?

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Oh, God.

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Did you fuck?

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Because I watched an extreme like goofy movie.

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All right.

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That's more goofy.

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Sounds like we're all on the same page.

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OK. Well, cool.

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Yeah, very cool.

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I'd say Danny's.

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I'd say Danny's kind of the inherent vice of this podcast.

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I would say the same thing. Yeah.

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That's totally true.

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Or words have never been spoken.

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Yeah, you know, I am the reason why you can't ensure this. Yeah.

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We do remember what the advice means, right?

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Yeah. Yeah.

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Well, I was thinking like, you never know, like just just us doing a podcast,

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you might just show up and be a be a part of it.

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You're an inherent like there's a there's a possibility that you just might be here.

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You know.

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And you're we're not sure what form of you could you're the

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and then in the same way, you're the Phantom of the Podfather.

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I like the Phantom of the Podfather.

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That's, you know, that's it's cool.

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Yeah. I mean, it sounds like there should be like a whole opera.

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But you're something.

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Well, I hate to break it to you, but there kind of is.

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Oh, well, I mean, I'm writing an opera about about about the Podfather.

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I've I told you this already.

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Yeah, I've been writing it for like two years.

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Fuck. Is it just parody?

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Is it like the Phantom of the Podfather?

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No, no, no, no, no.

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You talk about inherent bias.

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Not at all.

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You know, the right music.

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You know, it's original.

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Oh, you're doing original tunes.

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Yeah.

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And Lloyd Webber signs off.

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I grew up in a time period in which there was, you know, the disaster movie,

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the parody, this parody, that.

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And if I'm going to make something, it's not going to be as bullshit

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and as lowbrow as those types of things.

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It's going to it's going to be something great.

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It's like go off.

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King. Moving the moving the art forward, you know, not just resting on laurels.

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So yeah, you're no laurel, right?

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Still.

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I'm not well, I'm no laurel wrestler.

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Yeah. Yeah.

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Or is this a stage play?

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This is an opera.

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You're making like a legit opera.

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It's going to be multimedia.

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Whoa. Nice.

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Yeah, people like that.

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Yeah. And this day and age.

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Yeah. And this stage, I mean, if you're not making a multimedia production

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of your thing, then you're not with it.

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Can you have like a skin on Fortnite, too?

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Yeah. Yeah.

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So it's going to be the skin on Fortnite is going to come out simultaneously

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with the first showing of the show.

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So we're I prefer the rise of Skywalker effect, where you reveal a plot

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detail in Fortnite before the movie comes out.

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I didn't like that.

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Really? I didn't like that.

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So I yeah, I wanted.

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Oh, you didn't like that?

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Oh, I think what?

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And Epic was like, can we get a hot goss on the story so we can, you know,

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put it in the game sooner?

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And I was like, no, I don't I know.

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I don't like that.

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They revealed Danny.

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They revealed Emperor Palpatine has somehow returned in the dead.

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That's pretty big.

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That's the dead.

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That's that's huge. Yeah. OK.

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I guess I mean, it's also not huge at the same time, because I couldn't give a

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fuck less.

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I mean, I just mean, a movie that has a lot of bad stuff that might be the worst

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part of it is the fact that Palpatine is is the whole whole.

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Yeah, like I'm just saying, like it is a big thing that they shouldn't have done

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that like that's don't do it.

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Don't want to do it.

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Yeah, you don't do it.

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I'm going to do that.

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Something you don't do.

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You don't.

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I've been pitching to Danny that he should train his daughter

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to do a Dana Carvey being George Bush impression.

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And I think it would be really funny, especially if you do it before Halloween

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and you just get her out there like when she's trick or treating a door open

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stricter treat, she just like goes into her fight like her quick quick one minute

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little because I mean, her political humor is already great.

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But then like, you know, she needs to start doing more.

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Yeah, I mean, character work.

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So that way, like, you know, it's a whole nother layer.

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It gives you it gives you.

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Now that you five, like, you know, like it puts a face on it.

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Yeah, yeah, because I mean, her political satire is just I mean, it's fighting.

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It's really biting.

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Yeah, she can do more than just be a talking head like a weekend update

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like a show like a John, you know, how last week tonight, she can.

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She can bring can laugh.

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I think, yeah, it's like this is like Patreon material, you know,

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like she doesn't put it out there for free consumption.

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It's like it's going to be from the jump.

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It's going to be going to pay wall.

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Right. I mean, because the height.

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The hype is going to be there.

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Yeah, is there a lot of offers?

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So we're we're, you know, we're trying to just, you know,

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make good content and then from there, you know,

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we'll deal with the millions and the, you know, the offer, the contracts and stuff.

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You're the father after all, I understand.

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It's, you know, it's it's a long route, you know.

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Yeah. Somebody's got to do it.

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I mean, somebody's got to be doing this day to day grind, you know, speaking

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of the day to day grind, let's talk about this movie.

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Lawless.

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Lawless.

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I mean, that might as well be the transition in this movie of one thing to the to the next.

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One thing to the next. Yeah, absolutely.

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It's a fever dream of a movie and of a plot and of a book.

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It's not.

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Before we get into the movie proper, I want to direct us to movie adjacent

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and get off our day becoming a data job and, you know, managing his again,

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biting humor, her her ideas of the world are interesting.

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Interesting.

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Yeah.

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But to get into this movie, so P.T.

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Anderson, we're all fans of it.

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I think we can get past our relationship with P.T.

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And I'm curious, where would you guys rank this amongst his?

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I know that kind of buries the lead for the score, but I think people will still be

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surprised by what you give the score at the end of it.

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But like, after viewing this, where would you put this in P.T.'s?

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Yeah, because he is such an amazing director.

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And I do like so many of his movies that could be.

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Yeah, this could be a Sophie's Choice thing, you know, where it's like even

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even some of his lower stuff I saw really like.

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But that being said, it is.

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Yeah, it would probably be a bit lower.

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I don't know if I have a definitive ranking.

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That's fine. Would you say like if you were to break it up in the middle,

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would it be on the bottom or on the top?

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Shit.

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Maybe a little closer to the bottom.

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Mm hmm.

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But still, I mean, the dude makes fucking amazing movies, amazing movies.

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Like so many amazing movies.

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I have to I have to see a list of his as well.

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But that's I feel like that's kind of maybe where I would put it amongst

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those other movies.

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I'd say watching it like a second time, I enjoyed it even more.

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And so I would I would say that like.

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And like movies like like his and Coen brother movies, like

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I would say you don't get enough out of it.

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Watching it's a lot of line.

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Yeah, they're interesting filmmakers.

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They're fun.

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Yeah, they're fun movies to rewatch.

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But so I would say he would probably this one on his out of his movies

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that I like, like I'd say this would fall into like, you know,

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fifth or sixth in like line.

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So I mean, as far as bottom of the list, I don't know.

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I mean, there might be a few if you were to imagine the middle of this

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filmography, would you put it on the upper middle or the bottom?

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I would rather watch this than Magnolia as far as a rewatch or something, though.

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So like that's.

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Oh, wow.

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That's where I rather watch this than Likrish pizza as well.

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I'm interested, but I feel like I'd rather watch Magnolia in a way.

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But see, what I'll say is that all.

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I would rather watch how familiar and how recent things are with Likrish pizza.

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I would actually stand to watch it again.

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I've only seen it probably once, but with this now I've seen it twice.

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I would say it's it actually kind of turned into for me like this is his.

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This is his big Lebowski in a way.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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For sure.

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And yeah, totally.

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And so like I but I actually enjoy like because also the second time I was

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taking a shower, but my shower faces the TV.

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So I was able to like watch it while I was showering really quick.

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Such a dog move.

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And and well, I just started like I don't mind this movie on in the background.

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And so and it's good.

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Look at me.

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And I realized like every scene, I'm actually like it's pretty fucking compelling.

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Like it's got great people everywhere doing fucking Phoenix is a very goofy.

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Yeah, shit.

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Yeah.

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And he's a good person to run a vehicle.

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Yeah.

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Like, you know, he he can subtly do things or, you know, make big moves and still

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stay within like, you know, like good parameters as a character.

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Like, yeah.

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Absolutely.

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So I thought it was fun.

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I enjoyed it.

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So I would yeah, like I would say it ranked fifth out of like movies.

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It is of course, you know, Boogie Knights would be more fun to watch than this, I guess.

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I get you.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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It was more of a yeah, looking for a hot take.

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But yeah, no, I can.

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So he has nine movies, eight of which I've seen.

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I haven't seen hard eight.

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Where would you rank him?

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Brandon?

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Because yeah, even looking at these now, I feel like yeah, it's like still like

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middle to swim around there, but I love every single one of these movies.

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He's moving.

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I like I just like like fuck, fuck, fuck, man.

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I definitely should make a list at some time.

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But where around where would you put it?

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I would put it right around the middle.

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Oh, right around the middle.

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I would probably put it like if I were to in my mind without knowing, like without

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ranking them one by one, I would say middle the next one in the bottom half of the middle.

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So better than Magnolia, you said better than the master or you drink it.

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No, master is way, way better.

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Master.

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Yeah.

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You drink it.

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How about licorice pizza?

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I feel like I like licorice pizza more than this.

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But they're so, so, so.

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We have kind of different, different feelings of it.

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But I think we all could put any one of these movies on and have a great fucking time

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or, you know, have the intended hard time with some of the other things that are difficult to watch.

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But I still circle back around to I think there will be blood is my favorite.

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And even that's a hard time to watch at moments, but also it's transfixing like a lot of those

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movies are.

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And I get so locked in from beginning to end.

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And I feel like anytime I've watched, I just lock in and just watch the whole thing.

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And I feel like that's the best Johnny Greenwood score as well.

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And then that whole.

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Then that whole.

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Is Johnny Greenwood score, though, in this movie?

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It's amazing.

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I know.

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Amazing.

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I know.

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Believe me.

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I know.

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The master.

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The master.

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The master.

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Oh, my God.

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I'm like, I'm loving the way this movie fucking sounds.

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Yes.

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So much.

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Oh, everything flows so well together.

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Like it's a it's seamless transitions.

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I guess you could kind of like, you know what I mean?

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And that's also where it reminded me a little bit of Big Lebowski is, you know,

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it's a it's like dreamlike flow between, you know, one one place to the next.

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And yeah, yeah, it's a it at times it leaves you like, how did we get here?

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Yeah, it's as if we what how what happened in particular for me, the him going to

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what seems like a construction site for a new housing development, but then turned

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into a sex it's a massage parlor.

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Or like a massage sex store.

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And so when he enters in something else, you saw those guys creeping in from the

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fucking from the you saw the guys in the fucking creeping in from the from the field.

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Well, but also to he rolls up that and it's nothing, but there's like 20 something

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motorcyclists like motorbike gang guys leaving it.

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And his and his reactions to everything in this movie.

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Are great.

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Like I love Joaquin Phoenix so much.

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This is a movie that shows like him.

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Understand he understand it like he is such a lived person in this.

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And so all of these experiences that happen to him, he's such a good audience

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surrogate because he reacts so naturally to things.

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And so the whole time like his confusion becomes your confusion.

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And that I would like to get into later, but like could be somewhat of a detachment

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to this movie that it is so like.

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Almost like prides itself on confusion because the theme of that is the hippie

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movement being in this like so idealistic, not understanding certainty and rate

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and like the friction that it has against capitalism.

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I think it's just such an interesting thing that like Joaquin Phoenix

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represents hippies and Bigfoot Bjornsson represents a capitalism

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and all of their relationship and then all of his friction with this new US

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and this new world like he handles it so incredibly well.

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I really fucking dug the shit out of this.

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You yeah, you highlight a lot of amazing aspects of it.

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Definitely. And even before that, I think you mentioned the Big Lebowski thing.

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And I just had to mention this movie is is in a lot of ways combination

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of a lot of different types of inspirations from different movies.

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And some from the 70s that I haven't seen.

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Like I've heard like Altman movies and stuff like that.

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But when you mentioned Big Lebowski made me think of like as if Chinatown

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and said you had Jake, you had the dude doing his best.

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Yeah, like solve solve the case and everything.

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And it's it's kind of it's it's a little just a little bit past.

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Or I guess it's 1970.

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So it's just right.

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Well, when the hippie movement died, you know, I guess.

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Although it's happened right right right before.

433
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Well, we're also watching like we're Big Lebowski.

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It's some guy who has no means and no like he has no

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this is instead of that.

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Like, yeah, but in this like this guy really no motivation, like some degree.

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It appears he's a seasoned hippie P.I.

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And right, but he still falls into it because all the rest of this is

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he is good at his job.

440
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He is very good.

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He's pretty good at like, you know, he shows himself as a capable P.I.

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And so as you watch what he's doing because he's he accomplishes a lot

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of what he sets out to do. Yeah.

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Well, and he knows where to go and who to talk to and what what in each situation.

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He how to pass himself off to get what he needs.

446
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Because I mean, you have him.

447
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I love that.

448
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So many different things by like the one place he goes into the insane

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asylum pretending to be like a guy that might work there.

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But like like like he's like auditioning the place to be a like where he wants

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to be a physician.

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But then before that, he goes to that one lady's house pretending to be

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the the bank or whatever or like pretending to be like whoever they

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like we're investing in.

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So to get like her bank account number, he claims that, you know,

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he has money that he needs to give her back because they made an investment

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and it's now like her husband's missing.

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I can't remember why, but he like makes up some reason to give her money.

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So she gives him the bank account info and like each time like, you know,

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he just puts on a suit and comes his hair and shit.

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I love the hair change.

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But then he sells himself.

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And each time also he's goofing around, though, he's like hooking up.

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He starts to kind of like hook up with that ladies, like

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Mexican maid or whatever in the closet after he gets information from her.

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And all the laughing gas and the martin I mean, Martin Short. Yeah.

467
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Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And then yeah, with Martin Short.

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I mean, he he has some like vague ruse each because of these people's

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houses, but what it's also seasoned with everybody that he comes in contact with

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is to some degree getting theirs and getting fucked up in the process.

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And it it kind of, you know,

472
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P.T. Anderson seems to love this decade for these this like

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passage of time for a big bad reason.

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And, you know, you could say that each time he he makes something set in this time period,

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he also has been hitting on kind of different pockets and places

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in those and like different people's stories in that time.

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And with this one, I mean, you're looking at very much like

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people that just are very quick to like just meet each other and be ready to like, you know,

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you know, like here, share drugs, hook up, whatever.

480
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And like it's you're seeing a whole nother scene.

481
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Then he's shown you, you know, you saw the porn industry get started in Boogie

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Nights. You saw this, this, this is, you know, his kind of showing you the

483
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like the temperature of the the heads and like the the counterculture.

484
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Yeah.

485
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And yeah, but also you're looking at a fucked up version of the counterculture,

486
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because it's all these heroin junkies and shit like that.

487
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Like so he gets to kind of go go into the gritty detail of that.

488
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And I mean, I could see why this was not people's favorite when thinking they're going to just see.

489
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I think, you know, no, the general movie going public goes to see a movie

490
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and probably thought this would be more of an action movie or something like that,

491
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not knowing what to think of it.

492
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And I don't think I don't know.

493
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I don't know. I enjoyed it probably more than a fucking Marvel movie or something like that.

494
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But, you know, that's that's that's where that audience rating comes from.

495
00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:13,760
You know, yeah.

496
00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:22,680
My opinion on why people don't like this movie is because it is very

497
00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:28,440
self-indulgent like P.T. can do.

498
00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:32,680
And is more concerned about

499
00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:38,320
themes rather than plot.

500
00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:42,040
And in my mind, general audiences

501
00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:45,040
enjoy a more clear plot.

502
00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:48,680
And this is very convoluted purposely.

503
00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:50,720
So, you know, I'm not trying to

504
00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:55,320
say that I agree with the audience necessarily, but

505
00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:58,000
yeah, this is an incredibly self-indulgent movie.

506
00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:02,840
And to your point, though, by and large, Danny, which is really interesting to me, too.

507
00:26:03,360 --> 00:26:08,000
And this movie does a great job of adding context and color to

508
00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:14,280
P.T. Anderson's worldview that because I hadn't really watched this before this.

509
00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:17,600
And now I really watched it for this podcast.

510
00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:21,960
And this provides more context to this idea that P.T.

511
00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:25,480
has in so many of his movies that.

512
00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:31,720
It reckons with romanticizing the 70s and the late 60s because of certain things

513
00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:37,880
of it, but then it's really aware and makes a point of how things transform

514
00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:40,720
and why everybody's kind of at fault for it.

515
00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:44,920
And it's not like the hippies are better than the capitalist or like the

516
00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:46,800
conservatives or whatever.

517
00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:50,600
It's like both parties are at a point where it's like, you know,

518
00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:54,400
both parties are at fault for their own bullshit.

519
00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:57,600
Well, and you see it just destroy people.

520
00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:02,760
And that's P.T.'s big thing that I loved about this as well, is there's so many

521
00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:07,760
characters in this movie that get so much time of day to understand where they fit

522
00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:13,480
in this world. Like every single like major interaction that dog has with.

523
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:17,360
And the great thing about this movie, too, is it's a lot of like fun

524
00:27:17,360 --> 00:27:18,840
character actors and shit.

525
00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:22,520
Yeah, like the stuff with Owen Wilson is amazing.

526
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:26,520
In his character in general, I would love to get your guys' opinion on him,

527
00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:31,520
is I thought was so great casting, such great casting, so fun.

528
00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:33,120
Absolutely.

529
00:27:33,120 --> 00:27:38,480
The casting in this movie overall is impeccable and every single scene,

530
00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:41,880
it gives you that feeling of like, oh, my God, this person's here.

531
00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:46,680
And they just kind of casually walk in, do their thing and it moves on to the next

532
00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:49,120
thing, introduces another person and another person.

533
00:27:49,120 --> 00:27:52,680
And it is an overwhelming experience.

534
00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:57,360
But as you said earlier, is he is the perfect audience surrogate.

535
00:27:57,360 --> 00:27:59,920
And it became very clear.

536
00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:03,680
I have hardly, I think, fell asleep.

537
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:05,360
Watched it the first time.

538
00:28:05,360 --> 00:28:08,560
This is my third, like two and a half, I guess, time watching it.

539
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:13,360
And it becomes so clear, the intended viewing of the movie of really putting

540
00:28:13,360 --> 00:28:17,400
your mind into is it Doc Sportella, whatever his name is, Doc?

541
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:18,200
Oh, yeah.

542
00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:20,160
And that.

543
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:25,920
Ability to embrace that and put yourself in his mind

544
00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:29,360
in the similar way of like reading a book like, I don't know,

545
00:28:29,360 --> 00:28:33,040
like a fucking caroac book or whatever sort of sort of jam right.

546
00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:35,200
This is so caroac.

547
00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:38,360
And this is where this is where I haven't read a Thomas Pynchon.

548
00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:40,400
I'm so glad I've read it.

549
00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:43,360
I haven't read a Thomas Pynchon book, so that would be the better example.

550
00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:47,320
I'm sure if I had actually read one, but there is an element of letting go

551
00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:50,120
and not trying to be bogged down with every little detail.

552
00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:53,840
But just as with the road, I sound so pretentious, but you just go

553
00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:57,800
with the flow and you just run with it and you just don't get bogged down.

554
00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:00,680
And then it just starts to wash over you in a fun way.

555
00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:04,240
And you really start to embrace the characters, the scenes, the themes

556
00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:08,320
and just those living in the present moment of the scene that you start

557
00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:12,400
to enjoy it so much that this is definitely going to be a very rewatchable

558
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:17,120
movie for me in ways that like maybe I wouldn't rewatch Magnolia as much.

559
00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:19,480
But I might. Yeah, I might rewatch this one more.

560
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:21,120
So which one is better?

561
00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:22,960
I'm not sure. But yeah.

562
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:24,640
And you guys brought I was trying to go through.

563
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:26,240
You guys said a lot of a lot of great stuff.

564
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:30,920
And you you brought up the set like this fascination with this time.

565
00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:33,920
And I watched this interview with him where

566
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:36,160
someone kind of brought up that up with him.

567
00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:39,720
And at least in this case, he was like, well, maybe you should ask

568
00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:44,880
Tom Thomas Pinchin as well, because I he wrote this book much later on.

569
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:48,960
I want to say it was like in the 2000s later on in his career.

570
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:49,480
And.

571
00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:54,760
He PTA's point was like, there's been so many things made

572
00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:57,360
about the 60s, about this time.

573
00:29:57,360 --> 00:30:00,680
And it's been such a strident, tried and true territory 2009.

574
00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:04,400
And for Thomas Pinchin to go back into that well

575
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:07,560
and go into that same place and tell another story within it.

576
00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:11,520
His point was like there must be there must be a lot there for him

577
00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:16,280
for him to want to go back there at such a later time, like all the way in 2009.

578
00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:19,280
So that it is such.

579
00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:23,560
Yeah, it is such a feelings based sort of sort of thing from both

580
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:26,480
author and filmmaker, I think.

581
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:29,840
And what I've heard about his novels are, yeah, it's just it.

582
00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:32,720
You in a William S. Burroughs way, too.

583
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:38,000
You just kind of have to get a get a find that rhythm to to move through it.

584
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:41,280
And also like Hunter Stomson, Hunter Stomson.

585
00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:42,160
I would love to know.

586
00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:43,240
Yeah, Vinicio on this movie.

587
00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:46,520
And I mean, he's got a very, yeah, fucking.

588
00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:47,800
He's the lawyer.

589
00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:49,120
It was so amazing.

590
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:49,600
It was.

591
00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:50,000
Right.

592
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:51,000
He shows us all.

593
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:51,120
Like.

594
00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:52,120
Yeah.

595
00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:54,560
OK, he's a maritime.

596
00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:56,400
He's a maritime lawyer.

597
00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:57,200
He's like some.

598
00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:57,880
Maritime.

599
00:30:57,880 --> 00:30:59,360
The lawyer.

600
00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:05,040
I love that scene so much because you get to carry all guys back together as well.

601
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:08,720
Brolin and Brolin and Vinicio back together.

602
00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:09,880
Yeah.

603
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:12,000
Or do you think about heroin cartels?

604
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:17,800
Do you guys remember how in that scene, they're at the restaurant

605
00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:20,800
and the whole interaction that they have the waitress

606
00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:23,120
need to get fucked up?

607
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:24,880
It's like, are you guys trying to get fucked up right now?

608
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:29,640
Is it isn't that waitress like it like it didn't really show her face,

609
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:32,080
but she's she's isn't that from workaholics?

610
00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:34,120
Oh, yes, yes, it is.

611
00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:35,520
I looked it up with her face.

612
00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:38,760
And I was like, so I was looking at the cast list and I saw her and I was like,

613
00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:39,360
where was she?

614
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:40,880
Even show her face.

615
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:44,280
Well, that's what I love about the filming of this is there's a lot of shots

616
00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:50,520
where you're he's he uses the camera to just give you exactly like the these

617
00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:52,480
people's perspective on what's happening.

618
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:56,240
So like, you know, that's where, you know, you see, you know,

619
00:31:56,240 --> 00:32:00,120
you're only seeing this person, this girl's ass and like that she brought

620
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:01,640
a tray and then she walks out of the room.

621
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:03,960
You never see her face until they get to the fucking closet.

622
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:08,960
All that is like, you know, all just giving you Doc's perspective.

623
00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:13,120
And you get to see a good perspective too, because there's so much stuff

624
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:16,880
that people are ready to show and present to Doc that they don't want

625
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:20,920
everybody else in the room to see or that they like, you know, that they

626
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:23,880
they meet some on their level so easy.

627
00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:24,040
Yeah.

628
00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:27,880
He is he is on this vibration on this wavelength.

629
00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:29,360
Nobody's scared of them.

630
00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:30,960
Everybody's not going to die.

631
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:34,520
I'll a little bit and he's like, this is how I connect to this person.

632
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:36,320
This is how I connect to that person.

633
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:41,000
I really like everybody opens up to him.

634
00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:45,480
That's where we're what's her face walks into the from like in her bikini,

635
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:47,160
like from when he first walks into her house.

636
00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:49,760
That's that's a great example of what you just said to Danny, where it's like

637
00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:53,840
you it's you're in his perspective and she slowly just walks into frame

638
00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:56,920
and then like focuses on her close up and the camera doesn't move at all.

639
00:32:56,920 --> 00:33:00,040
And it's just and then it versus and shows him and it's he's right

640
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:03,280
in that spot where the camera is and then also you're right down the

641
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:06,800
bed on the lens and you're like, and I don't know, you kind of get that sort

642
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:11,400
of sense of his paranoia and is being a little too high to handle this right now.

643
00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:16,200
The focus is so wrapped like wrapped up to her that everything else just

644
00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:21,760
like washes out behind her and it's just her. Yeah. Well, and then like that

645
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:27,200
one guy, the the fucking personal trainer, whatever, walks in and makes a joke.

646
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:29,920
And all you see is his fucking huge cock.

647
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:34,240
No, he's like he's just in these tight shorts and you just see his package

648
00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:39,000
like walk by as and it's like the shots just on like over.

649
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:42,320
It's I think it's over docked shoulders or something or like you see his face.

650
00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:47,480
But then it sets up the the female like Mrs.

651
00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:50,800
Wolfman or whatever Sophia or something like that.

652
00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:53,400
But it's a Roberts. What's what's his name? Who is Wolfman?

653
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:58,160
It's Eric. It's Julia Roberts, brother. Yeah, brother. Yeah.

654
00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:01,400
Yeah. But yeah, so it's just his wife and fucking dog.

655
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:05,680
And so then you hear that guy walk in and he's like, yeah, consecutive bills

656
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:09,360
unmarked. This is this is this. And she's like, oh, he just always like you don't

657
00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:13,760
see that guy until a little bit later. But like it's also you don't need to.

658
00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:18,320
You're like you immediately know who that guy is and what he's all like this.

659
00:34:18,720 --> 00:34:23,040
And this and then for some reason, all the cops in town are in this pool

660
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:25,640
partying, getting pre catering.

661
00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:27,480
They're having like a bookie night's pool party.

662
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:28,480
Yeah.

663
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:29,480
Yeah.

664
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:32,720
So cops are just grill in in there in there fucking.

665
00:34:32,720 --> 00:34:37,080
So I'm just like, yeah, hot dogs.

666
00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:39,800
But no, there are.

667
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:44,560
His wife is just blowing all of them.

668
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:46,960
I couldn't give a fuck about what's going on.

669
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:50,760
Like, yeah, like I love that they're out there fucking little police out

670
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:53,640
uniforms are still on there like, oh, take my shirt off.

671
00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:57,480
But I'm just going to roll my trousers up and dip my feet in the pool

672
00:34:57,480 --> 00:35:00,440
and put my aviators on.

673
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:05,000
But there are like, like every you put it perfectly is like, you know exactly

674
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:09,080
what this character is about, and that goes for pretty much every single

675
00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:10,920
character in this movie.

676
00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:14,720
Every and that's necessary because you're introducing so many at such a

677
00:35:14,720 --> 00:35:18,760
quick, quick pace that you need to know exactly what this person's deal is

678
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:19,960
like right off the ballot.

679
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:21,120
What's your deal?

680
00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:22,120
And.

681
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:26,840
Like consecutively, every domino falls and all these character

682
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:31,000
character scenes where these all these people that have been leads

683
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:34,040
in all their own movies are just doing crushing these scenes.

684
00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:39,640
Like Reese Witherspoon and Martin and her scene and Martin Short

685
00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:42,720
scene, I think is one of as weird and fucked up as it is.

686
00:35:42,720 --> 00:35:44,440
This is one of my favorite scenes of this.

687
00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:45,440
Of this.

688
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:47,560
Like, the mayor.

689
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:48,560
Yeah.

690
00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:49,920
Yeah, totally.

691
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:50,920
That's a great.

692
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:51,920
Definitely.

693
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:56,480
Like, like, like flaunting how much he's fucking in front of this guy.

694
00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:57,480
Oh, that is like.

695
00:35:57,480 --> 00:36:01,160
He's never been like, yeah, I'm just like fucking boning.

696
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:05,680
Oh, look at the greedy hippie.

697
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:08,520
Like, that was one of your flying looks the greedy hippie.

698
00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:13,040
Oh, they have that interaction where they're like leaving and then he's

699
00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:15,960
like, and they both run back and they're like, yeah, let's do some more.

700
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:17,440
And then they're in the car together.

701
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:18,440
Yeah.

702
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:19,440
Just have a whole night together.

703
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:23,120
And then when they get pulled over and he's like, oh fuck, we're fucked.

704
00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:24,120
He's.

705
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:29,120
He is so unhinged and I love it like that.

706
00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:30,120
I love that.

707
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:31,680
That was the best Martin Short.

708
00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:34,000
That's why you leave later that night.

709
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:35,000
That's crazy.

710
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:36,000
Dude dies off.

711
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:38,800
We that was my favorite performance of Martin Short.

712
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:39,800
Short.

713
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:41,280
Like that was the best cameo.

714
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:42,280
I know.

715
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:43,280
He was having fun.

716
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:44,280
Everybody was having fun.

717
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:45,440
That was a good time.

718
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:46,440
He nailed it.

719
00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:48,040
He absolutely nailed it.

720
00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:52,160
There's there's that there's a point where I just forget it's him as well.

721
00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:53,920
Like it's just one of those things.

722
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:54,920
Totally.

723
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:58,080
And there's other people like Benicio or it's like that is the perfect role and you've

724
00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:03,480
done things like that before and other people like Reese Witherspoon where it's like, man,

725
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:05,000
you should do more stuff like this.

726
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:11,280
She's like, oh, yeah, it's so cool to see her in the period setting like this and in

727
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:16,160
a well made script acting opposite walking Phoenix.

728
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:19,880
And she had really good chemistry with them too when they were on the phone together.

729
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:24,440
Like when she was like had her clothes off and they were smoking weed and she was like

730
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:27,560
asking him about something that was such a necessary.

731
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:28,560
Oh, it's very cool.

732
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:33,120
I'm not just pumping the scene up because it's also very cool.

733
00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:37,120
But I'm just saying like those are the kind of moments that this movie does take its time

734
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:42,320
with that are nice that it like if you give yourself into the movie, you're like, oh,

735
00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:47,360
I'm so glad I get to see the scene because that wasn't necessarily a necessary scene,

736
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:53,480
but it provides even more context to that rigid character of like and also adds to the

737
00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:58,600
I think the pros of this movie, which is he is a like conservative works for the government

738
00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:01,320
person, but she's like getting stoned and fucking this dude.

739
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:03,520
Yeah, she also had a little fun.

740
00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:08,400
And that's again, so much of this like tumultuous relationship that is on display in this movie

741
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:13,880
between the hippie movement and this like Reagan era shit are Nixon because Nixon's

742
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:15,520
even in this, right?

743
00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:16,520
We do the.

744
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:19,080
Yeah, and it's all like the what are they?

745
00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:23,200
What is the fucking group called that that are like Nick's and diehards?

746
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:27,040
No, not the gold dragon like the like the like the GOP.

747
00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:33,200
There's so many different factions in this movie, but there's like the GOP like it's

748
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:35,880
the anti-communist thing that you're extreme.

749
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:36,880
Yeah, like that.

750
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:40,560
Oh, and snitching for yeah, the the red squad.

751
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:41,560
What the fuck?

752
00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:45,120
There's there's called like things.

753
00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:47,880
The vegan something movement.

754
00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:51,600
Like it was like the yeah, like counterculture movement.

755
00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:56,120
No, it was like no, I mean, it was like the it was like the Nixon people's like no, I

756
00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:57,840
was like, concert like more conservative.

757
00:38:57,840 --> 00:38:58,840
That's right.

758
00:38:58,840 --> 00:38:59,840
Infiltrating that.

759
00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:01,840
Because he's there's a lot.

760
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:04,880
There's a lot of organizations he was infiltrating.

761
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:09,040
And the funny thing is this whole bit is like he's tired of it.

762
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:13,960
Yeah, he's like, you want to get out, but they keep pulling them back in for life and

763
00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:14,960
all this.

764
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:19,080
That moment towards the end where Doc shows up.

765
00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:20,840
God, what is that?

766
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:23,760
Oh, the like rehabilitation center.

767
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:29,560
And then Wilson has like this almost KKK looking hood on in this like sweat launch that they're

768
00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:30,560
all in.

769
00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:36,280
And all it is is a slow mo of him being like, what the fuck?

770
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:38,280
It's great.

771
00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:45,200
It's a really good time.

772
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:47,200
It's a good time.

773
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:48,200
This is a great movie.

774
00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:55,080
I just would say again, like do your best to like to let go when you're watching it and

775
00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:57,160
don't get too bogged down with it.

776
00:39:57,160 --> 00:40:05,000
Because even as I enjoyed it, I would have to kind of like take a second and maybe pause,

777
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:09,480
walk around for a second and come right back because it's it's a lot to take in.

778
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:13,200
And I'm sure it's great in a movie theater in all one setting, but I would I would recommend

779
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:20,320
you just just just working through it, you know, and feeling it kind of wash over you.

780
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:25,680
And I know we mentioned all the character actor like most of them, Eric, Eric Roberts,

781
00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:30,600
again, like his brief scene is so important to the movie as well.

782
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:35,000
There are these other ones like like you're talking about Reese Witherspoon, like and

783
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:38,120
they have they have these nice and all the Shasta scenes and everything.

784
00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:39,200
Those are very important as well.

785
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:44,480
But then they have the less important quote unquote, but you know, like the more relationship

786
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:45,480
building stuff.

787
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:50,200
But the Eric Robert scenes where where he finally comes face to face with him on that

788
00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:57,080
balcony how it's shot is when he comes up and he's on these still like he's on the stairs

789
00:40:57,080 --> 00:41:00,480
and it's just his head is his head like sticking up.

790
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:05,280
And then it goes full close up on Eric Roberts and him the rest of the scene.

791
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:08,160
And it's just it's it's so kind.

792
00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:11,560
These are like subcont these are subconscious filmmaking decisions.

793
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:13,720
And this is the PTA episode, everyone.

794
00:41:13,720 --> 00:41:15,840
So I'm going to get up my own ass about some of this shit.

795
00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:16,840
Do it.

796
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:17,840
Get so up your ass.

797
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:21,880
This is one of the it's a subconscious sort of effect that it has on you and and the walls

798
00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:27,040
are fucking closing in at this point where it's like it's all is there's so much dedicated

799
00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:32,520
to his face in that moment because and it lets you know visually.

800
00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:36,400
Listen and pay attention to this moment because there's a lot of other things that are muttered,

801
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:41,280
mumbled or whatever, but then they pause and like boom, like pay attention to this part

802
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:42,280
right there.

803
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:47,240
And it's very satisfying in like this is actually what's happening sort of way.

804
00:41:47,240 --> 00:41:54,520
But then yeah, you get shots to kind of weaving this web of like information as well through

805
00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:59,080
his brain throughout the whole movie that is like almost like a nice little reminder.

806
00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:01,120
You get the Joanna Newsom narration.

807
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:02,120
There's a lot.

808
00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:03,120
There's a lot going on.

809
00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:05,720
And she actually shows up and speaks with them as well.

810
00:42:05,720 --> 00:42:09,040
It's like there's a no disney and level quality to this.

811
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:14,960
A hero's journey sort of quality to him working through this, but it's absurdist and it's dark

812
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:24,440
and it's very specific to an era and place and time and energy and to have somebody that's

813
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:31,120
so well versed in all of those things and able to serve you that up on a silver platter.

814
00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:39,960
It's it's pretty great and then the narrative whether you like you can agree on that it's

815
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:43,600
hard to follow whether you like it or you don't.

816
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:47,640
And it's just whether you choose to kind of let go a little bit, right?

817
00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:48,640
Absolutely.

818
00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:49,640
Yeah.

819
00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:50,640
Like you surrender to it.

820
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:56,720
It is in your surrounding yourself into such capable hands, you know?

821
00:42:56,720 --> 00:42:57,720
Yeah.

822
00:42:57,720 --> 00:43:03,480
I think this cast is one of like there's people that he uses a lot.

823
00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:07,000
And I think this was a step.

824
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:14,080
This is him using a different set of like he grabbed a lot of people that you don't see

825
00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:21,680
him use a lot or that he hasn't used before that all or this has such a banger of a cast

826
00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:25,720
of cameos from like every direction.

827
00:43:25,720 --> 00:43:27,920
And like newcomers as well.

828
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:36,240
There's people in this like that that the girl that he talks to in the gas max scene.

829
00:43:36,240 --> 00:43:39,800
She's she's a X porn star that became like a producer.

830
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:45,600
And then this is like I haven't seen her act in any like big movies or anything, but she

831
00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:48,560
did a hell of a job in like her little cameo and stuff.

832
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:52,760
But you're seeing him get I think him as a director.

833
00:43:52,760 --> 00:44:00,600
He can get people like he can direct people to do some amazing things and make some like

834
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:08,400
very easy small choices that you kind of don't it's it's unnoticeable as and seamless as

835
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:12,680
like a movie because it doesn't feel like a movie.

836
00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:18,200
It feels like you're looking at, you know, a conversation between, you know, you know,

837
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:24,880
you're in gross in the story to a to a level that I think makes him one of the best directors

838
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:27,080
like of our time like absolutely.

839
00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:28,560
Yeah, man.

840
00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:32,200
Looking at that list kind of blew my mind was like, fuck banger, banger, banger, it's

841
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:33,200
a banger.

842
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:35,200
And he gets all I know.

843
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:36,200
Bangers.

844
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:41,800
He gets all those people to do, you know, you were saying each person has has very limited,

845
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:46,160
you know, people that just have a couple minutes of screen time here and there.

846
00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:50,320
But each one of them tells you exactly who they are and what's going on with them in

847
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:59,400
such a deep and rich way that it all feels like a very, very like immersive fucking world

848
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:02,840
that you're in it flawlessly.

849
00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:09,920
And that execution is fucking very tricky to do with how many there's probably 40 fucking

850
00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:12,840
people that they introduce and you each one of them.

851
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:14,880
Oh, such cool names.

852
00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:19,080
Yeah, let's read out some of those names, baby.

853
00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:25,560
One part I want to say they said where he got his training for his P.I. license was

854
00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:28,480
the office of Voorhees and Kruger.

855
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:36,520
And they said like the sub names where it's like, you're just doing fun shit now.

856
00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:41,920
So we got walking Phoenix is Larry Docs, Portello, Josh Brolin as Lieutenant Christian F. Bigfoot

857
00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:48,040
Bjornsson, Owen Wilson as Koi Harlingen, Katherine Watterson, Shasta Faye Hepworth, Joanna Newsom,

858
00:45:48,040 --> 00:46:00,240
Sordelae, Sordelae, Mickey Wolfman, Sloan Wolfman, Petunia Leeway, Dr. Buddy Tubeside,

859
00:46:00,240 --> 00:46:04,280
Michael Kenneth Williams, RIP fucking shows up for a hot second as Terrick.

860
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:06,280
He loves his ass.

861
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:07,280
I know, man.

862
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:08,280
That was rough scene.

863
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:09,280
He was great on this.

864
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:10,280
Fuck, I miss miss him.

865
00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:18,000
Yeah, and fucking Hong Chow, they found they they just they discovered Hong Chow essentially

866
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:19,000
for this movie.

867
00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:21,120
And yeah, it was great.

868
00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:24,200
She's so and she's everything.

869
00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:26,560
She's as well as as banger after banger.

870
00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:28,360
So yeah, she's like that.

871
00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:32,520
I'm talking about the massage part of the massage.

872
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:34,120
I love her voice.

873
00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:35,320
Her voice is super great.

874
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:41,760
She's so funny and then she shows up later because of that, like it seemed like it was

875
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:48,120
on a canal, like it was a smoky background, like on a talk about the band party that he

876
00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:49,120
goes to.

877
00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:54,000
There's like a meeting point that he has to ride with you because I'm really uncomfortable.

878
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:55,800
Okay.

879
00:46:55,800 --> 00:47:01,960
That band was called Spotted Dick.

880
00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:02,960
Oh, yeah.

881
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:03,960
That's right.

882
00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:07,040
We got the spotty dick merchandise in the back.

883
00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:08,320
We got spotted dick hats.

884
00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:10,640
We got spotted glasses.

885
00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:15,920
There's so much shit going on that it's hard.

886
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:17,360
It's hard to track everything.

887
00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:21,480
But then when you yeah, like there's some really fucking funny stuff too.

888
00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:28,280
And most of it for me is in walking Phoenix's face, just watching his face react to everything

889
00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:32,600
and go to the world is his best is the funniest thing.

890
00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:35,200
His best reaction.

891
00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:39,920
The best thing to sum that up is like, all right, when he goes to meet Owen Wilson's wife,

892
00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:42,240
like he goes to talk to her.

893
00:47:42,240 --> 00:47:43,240
Yeah.

894
00:47:43,240 --> 00:47:44,240
The conversation.

895
00:47:44,240 --> 00:47:45,240
Yeah.

896
00:47:45,240 --> 00:47:46,240
What's the actor's name?

897
00:47:46,240 --> 00:47:47,240
Yeah.

898
00:47:47,240 --> 00:47:48,240
Jenna Malone.

899
00:47:48,240 --> 00:47:49,240
Jenna Malone.

900
00:47:49,240 --> 00:47:50,240
She was incredible.

901
00:47:50,240 --> 00:47:51,240
So she goes into that story.

902
00:47:51,240 --> 00:47:52,240
Jenna Malone.

903
00:47:52,240 --> 00:47:53,920
She says, oh yeah, the way we met.

904
00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:59,560
She's like, so I was running into the bathroom with my finger down my throat to throw up a

905
00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:04,720
bag of heroin and he's sitting on the toilet about to take a massive shit because he has

906
00:48:04,720 --> 00:48:09,440
gringo digestion and I stumble in and we're nailing us.

907
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:16,400
At the same time, I puke into the ice between his legs and to make things, you know, worse

908
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:20,960
or better, he just has a heart on one thing leads to another.

909
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:24,800
And you know, a little few months later, we have anathesis.

910
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:32,920
She's all wistful and like smiling as she tells this disgusting, junkie nightmare of

911
00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:33,920
a story.

912
00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:42,800
And then she hands him a picture of the baby and he looks at it and he just as a check

913
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:48,080
and like, but it's the funniest moment of the movie.

914
00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:49,080
So funny.

915
00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:51,640
That was the craziest reaction.

916
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:55,240
You didn't see a picture of it of the baby and you didn't need to.

917
00:48:55,240 --> 00:48:59,600
It just and she's like, yeah, they said the heroin was seeping into the breast milk and

918
00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:03,240
it's like the most nightmarish conversation.

919
00:49:03,240 --> 00:49:07,880
And she's also looks like the most normal like house mom out of anybody you meet in

920
00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:09,440
the whole fucking movie.

921
00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:15,080
She's got those new dentures because the golden fang has got that vertical integration.

922
00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:17,840
Well, and one thing you could say is the whole movie.

923
00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:21,920
There is so many different pieces to this puzzle that come out in every scene.

924
00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:24,640
It was so to that point.

925
00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:32,840
Anything that seems incidental still all plays in in a in a way to be woven into like the

926
00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:37,240
spaghetti web that is this fucking, you know, right?

927
00:49:37,240 --> 00:49:40,960
This delicious meal.

928
00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:43,200
And it's and it's so funny too.

929
00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:50,440
There's also another payoff on that like bit essentially about the kid being because the

930
00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:58,440
heroin and stuff being not well is then when Joaquin Phoenix meets Owen with a little later

931
00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:01,120
on this and particularly ask.

932
00:50:01,120 --> 00:50:06,320
Just sums it up as a little kid.

933
00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:17,720
A cute little name for like this massive fuck up of like like him as like a fucking parent

934
00:50:17,720 --> 00:50:20,920
and all this like that kid down a little stuff.

935
00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:21,920
Like yeah, man.

936
00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:23,920
Like it's pretty fucked.

937
00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:24,920
No, no.

938
00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:25,920
My other favorite.

939
00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:28,320
No, he plays it off like oh, the kids good.

940
00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:29,320
Like yeah.

941
00:50:29,320 --> 00:50:30,320
It's great.

942
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:31,320
Oh, he just moves it over.

943
00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:36,280
But yeah, it's my other favorite funny reaction was when he sees Owen Wilson at the.

944
00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:37,280
What is it?

945
00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:38,280
The psych hospital, I think, right?

946
00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:41,640
Or where that that place where he goes in there on the robes.

947
00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:44,040
And then I think that's where that scene is.

948
00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:48,560
It's a it's a ragu, as we said, but right when he clocks Owen Wilson, Owen Wilson looks

949
00:50:48,560 --> 00:50:49,560
at him.

950
00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:50,560
He just does a silent.

951
00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:51,560
What the fuck?

952
00:50:51,560 --> 00:50:52,560
You do it.

953
00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:53,560
Yeah.

954
00:50:53,560 --> 00:50:56,560
We just like a very like clear like.

955
00:50:56,560 --> 00:50:58,560
What the fuck?

956
00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:00,560
And I don't know.

957
00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:06,560
Owen Wilson has such a good way of doing the subtle little whisper reactions.

958
00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:08,560
Who's the place?

959
00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:09,560
Gee.

960
00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:11,160
Oh, that's Eric Roberts.

961
00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:12,160
Eric Roberts.

962
00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:16,560
Eric Roberts like gave me like deep like David Carradine vibes in this.

963
00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:18,560
Like Eric Roberts is incredible.

964
00:51:18,560 --> 00:51:19,560
Yeah.

965
00:51:19,560 --> 00:51:24,240
Well, didn't didn't he kind of remind you of like like a very like he felt cute bill

966
00:51:24,240 --> 00:51:29,360
like fucking like I just I saw like I don't know why, but it was like the lighting and

967
00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:33,960
like he looks all leathery and like yeah.

968
00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:39,160
And like he just reminded me of David Carradine a lot in this.

969
00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:43,640
Like not to put that juju on him or anything like.

970
00:51:43,640 --> 00:51:45,640
Jesus.

971
00:51:45,640 --> 00:51:46,640
Okay.

972
00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:53,440
Do you guys have anything to say about the Chick Planet massage menu?

973
00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:55,000
Oh my God.

974
00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:57,880
So my wife said specifically that we had to change.

975
00:51:57,880 --> 00:51:59,880
Oh wait, hold on.

976
00:51:59,880 --> 00:52:01,880
I didn't realize.

977
00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:06,640
Before we talk about that, let's talk about the fact that Eric Roberts is also

978
00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:11,360
Valkoni in the Christopher Nolan Batman's.

979
00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:12,360
Right.

980
00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:13,360
Right.

981
00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:14,360
Right.

982
00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:15,360
And yeah.

983
00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:16,360
Yeah.

984
00:52:16,360 --> 00:52:18,360
And he's awesome as that.

985
00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:20,360
I I remember.

986
00:52:20,360 --> 00:52:23,520
He's got such a like sleazy vibe to him.

987
00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:24,520
It's crazy.

988
00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:31,000
He just has that face where it's like you're saying he's like today's Michael Douglas.

989
00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:32,000
Oh yeah.

990
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:36,360
Like Michael Douglas also has that where he's got such a sleazy face.

991
00:52:36,360 --> 00:52:39,120
Actually, I'm going to get a refill on my drink alone.

992
00:52:39,120 --> 00:52:40,120
Okay.

993
00:52:40,120 --> 00:52:41,960
So I'll vamp.

994
00:52:41,960 --> 00:52:43,200
Here we go.

995
00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:49,800
So what I really, really like wanted to tell you guys now that they're out of the room

996
00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:55,360
is you know Brandon and James don't talk about it.

997
00:52:55,360 --> 00:53:02,000
They such nice guys like you can't have a better podcast and you guys need to like and

998
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:03,000
subscribe.

999
00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:05,520
Hey, hey, what's going on?

1000
00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:06,520
I had to vamp.

1001
00:53:06,520 --> 00:53:09,240
I was holding down the fort.

1002
00:53:09,240 --> 00:53:10,880
Oh, I should have just cut to break.

1003
00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:11,880
It's okay.

1004
00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:12,960
I can just edit edit at some point.

1005
00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:15,160
Well, you might want to leave that in.

1006
00:53:15,160 --> 00:53:17,440
You know, all right, then we're leaving it in folks.

1007
00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:18,440
Hey, I'm back.

1008
00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:19,440
I'm sorry.

1009
00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:22,880
I'm going to walk away and I ditched these guys and I guess Brandon decided to do the

1010
00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:27,920
same instead of covering me.

1011
00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:28,920
You got it dude.

1012
00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:29,920
You know, it's a problem.

1013
00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:31,440
I should have just I should have just went to break.

1014
00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:37,440
I figured my co-host would cover me as in the moment that yeah, I would walk away.

1015
00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:39,520
Hey, you're in safe hands.

1016
00:53:39,520 --> 00:53:41,000
You know, I held down the fort.

1017
00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:42,000
Thank you very much.

1018
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:43,000
Thank you man.

1019
00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:47,000
So many times I see this guy go to the bathroom and I'm holding on the fort but Jesus, I guess

1020
00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:50,920
I just can't do my phone, you know, but all areas.

1021
00:53:50,920 --> 00:53:51,920
Okay.

1022
00:53:51,920 --> 00:53:55,920
Well, anyways, I hope you had a good time with Danny.

1023
00:53:55,920 --> 00:53:57,400
That's the pod father.

1024
00:53:57,400 --> 00:54:00,800
You're in you're in good hands.

1025
00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:01,800
Welcome back Brandon.

1026
00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:02,800
Hey, hey buddy.

1027
00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:03,800
What happened?

1028
00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:04,800
I came back and nobody was here.

1029
00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:11,640
No, I was I should have went to break between me and the polar bears like you know, you

1030
00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:12,640
guys.

1031
00:54:12,640 --> 00:54:16,240
You left the polar bears with the pod father alone.

1032
00:54:16,240 --> 00:54:18,640
Yeah, dude, I took care of it.

1033
00:54:18,640 --> 00:54:19,640
I took care of it.

1034
00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:21,640
You know, don't worry about us.

1035
00:54:21,640 --> 00:54:22,640
Great.

1036
00:54:22,640 --> 00:54:23,640
Yeah, we had a good little talk.

1037
00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:29,680
You guys are gone, you know, and and and I think we I think we're all on the same level.

1038
00:54:29,680 --> 00:54:31,680
Everything's got to be said again.

1039
00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:32,680
All right.

1040
00:54:32,680 --> 00:54:33,680
All right.

1041
00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:37,840
Well, now that you're with soldiers now we're a big happy family again.

1042
00:54:37,840 --> 00:54:38,840
I have I don't know.

1043
00:54:38,840 --> 00:54:43,720
I was I had this breakdown of the five plots of this movie.

1044
00:54:43,720 --> 00:54:49,000
It might be too much to go through all of it, but I thought it was really nice.

1045
00:54:49,000 --> 00:54:55,880
Can I before actually I don't mean to stall you for a second, but can I say that like

1046
00:54:55,880 --> 00:55:04,880
is there a way that this movie also in a way is a allegory or a statement statement?

1047
00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:12,960
I mean, geez, I meant on like the opioid opioid crisis.

1048
00:55:12,960 --> 00:55:17,880
What you're doing is you're you're watching a breakdown of, you know, people saying we

1049
00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:26,440
could sell heroin and then at the same time what we could invest in the the like we could

1050
00:55:26,440 --> 00:55:31,240
invest in the recovery and treatment centers for it and we could get money coming and going

1051
00:55:31,240 --> 00:55:32,920
from that.

1052
00:55:32,920 --> 00:55:39,720
If you look at that and then apply that from not shipping in heroin from and selling it

1053
00:55:39,720 --> 00:55:41,920
on the street to PCP as well.

1054
00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:48,440
What I'm saying is if you look at that and then bump it up to, you know, what happens

1055
00:55:48,440 --> 00:55:55,040
after healthcare and pharmaceuticals is the oxy cotton crisis and all that.

1056
00:55:55,040 --> 00:56:00,440
And like, I just wonder if like the writer of the book you were talking about before,

1057
00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:07,200
I wonder if this was his, you know, in a way period piece and statement on the opioid crisis

1058
00:56:07,200 --> 00:56:15,280
while also being about precursors to it and, you know, how you have a group of dentists

1059
00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:17,280
that are syndicate.

1060
00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:20,320
In my mind, it really is.

1061
00:56:20,320 --> 00:56:26,440
It's this and it's that and more and it's just I think there's a lot of there's a lot

1062
00:56:26,440 --> 00:56:32,440
going on and it's it's definitely that and in my mind it's yeah, forget it, Danny.

1063
00:56:32,440 --> 00:56:43,040
That's a but it really is in my mind, capitalism seeping in seeping into every every aspect

1064
00:56:43,040 --> 00:56:49,200
of our society and culture and everything so much so that like I was saying, the vertical

1065
00:56:49,200 --> 00:56:52,240
vertical integration of like, we're going to get them hooked on smack.

1066
00:56:52,240 --> 00:56:54,840
Yeah, we're going to have the psych psych ward as well.

1067
00:56:54,840 --> 00:56:58,120
And we're also going to have to give them new teeth and all this shit.

1068
00:56:58,120 --> 00:56:59,360
teeth and psych work.

1069
00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:00,360
Yeah.

1070
00:57:00,360 --> 00:57:01,360
Yeah.

1071
00:57:01,360 --> 00:57:02,360
All that stuff.

1072
00:57:02,360 --> 00:57:06,560
And it's all a complete circle that that they have full full control of.

1073
00:57:06,560 --> 00:57:16,080
And so even something like the illicit drugs can be used in a capitalistic sort of way and

1074
00:57:16,080 --> 00:57:18,000
in the found foundations are being set up there.

1075
00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:23,040
And I think that is an interesting place to set the story when you're leaving the 60s

1076
00:57:23,040 --> 00:57:28,680
and moving into the 70s and things are more craven and more.

1077
00:57:28,680 --> 00:57:29,680
Yeah.

1078
00:57:29,680 --> 00:57:31,680
And then it's also kind of an.

1079
00:57:31,680 --> 00:57:34,680
It's like the road to the road.

1080
00:57:34,680 --> 00:57:36,880
I think I just want to say one.

1081
00:57:36,880 --> 00:57:37,880
Yeah, go.

1082
00:57:37,880 --> 00:57:38,880
Yeah, please.

1083
00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:41,120
I think it's an indictment though on capitalism in a big bad way.

1084
00:57:41,120 --> 00:57:45,680
It's like they talk about communism like communism while they're showing the system that

1085
00:57:45,680 --> 00:57:50,680
just turning people into fucking junkies to fucking, you know, get in my mind.

1086
00:57:50,680 --> 00:57:51,680
It's just absurd.

1087
00:57:51,680 --> 00:57:58,080
It's like it's like a very darkly comedic way of showing a satirical point of what's

1088
00:57:58,080 --> 00:58:00,240
what's going on in the real way.

1089
00:58:00,240 --> 00:58:03,720
But it's like it's joking about it, but it's also real as well.

1090
00:58:03,720 --> 00:58:04,720
Like it's so funny.

1091
00:58:04,720 --> 00:58:05,720
It's funny because it's true.

1092
00:58:05,720 --> 00:58:08,560
Well, you know, yeah, totally.

1093
00:58:08,560 --> 00:58:10,760
But please, Brandy, yeah, say your piece, please.

1094
00:58:10,760 --> 00:58:11,760
Sorry.

1095
00:58:11,760 --> 00:58:16,600
No, no, but I mean, the it's like a black comedy, you know, it's just it's showing you.

1096
00:58:16,600 --> 00:58:21,920
Yeah, it's showing you what's what's going on, what the situation is showing you your

1097
00:58:21,920 --> 00:58:22,920
problems.

1098
00:58:22,920 --> 00:58:33,200
And so the base of this right is Shasta tells Doc that she's fucking Wolfman and Wolfman.

1099
00:58:33,200 --> 00:58:35,000
It's Wolfman.

1100
00:58:35,000 --> 00:58:36,200
Jack is in this movie too.

1101
00:58:36,200 --> 00:58:38,160
Hey, folks, how we doing?

1102
00:58:38,160 --> 00:58:39,160
Whoa.

1103
00:58:39,160 --> 00:58:47,680
But Wolfman knows that his wife and lover are trying to commit him to a mental institution

1104
00:58:47,680 --> 00:58:49,160
to get his money.

1105
00:58:49,160 --> 00:58:50,160
Yeah.

1106
00:58:50,160 --> 00:58:51,160
Yes.

1107
00:58:51,160 --> 00:58:52,920
And oh, no, you continue.

1108
00:58:52,920 --> 00:58:53,920
I can know that.

1109
00:58:53,920 --> 00:58:57,600
No, I was thinking that I am my interpretation.

1110
00:58:57,600 --> 00:59:02,400
Meanwhile, Wolfman Jack is also addicted to drugs.

1111
00:59:02,400 --> 00:59:09,720
Well, before they get him addicted to drugs, but meanwhile, Wolfman Jack has been systematically

1112
00:59:09,720 --> 00:59:16,080
buying up the real estate of all the section eight housing of all like every Latino, the

1113
00:59:16,080 --> 00:59:17,680
black and Asian community.

1114
00:59:17,680 --> 00:59:23,280
She's basically like he's put in like high rise housing development around the what was

1115
00:59:23,280 --> 00:59:25,960
it the housing development around the aqueduct?

1116
00:59:25,960 --> 00:59:26,960
What was that?

1117
00:59:26,960 --> 00:59:27,960
Yeah.

1118
00:59:27,960 --> 00:59:30,960
You've worked into a real challenge.

1119
00:59:30,960 --> 00:59:40,880
I was like, I was like, yeah, but like so.

1120
00:59:40,880 --> 00:59:47,200
But he also so and they are yeah, they're trying to get it to.

1121
00:59:47,200 --> 00:59:50,400
So they fucking get him hooked on drugs probably like from.

1122
00:59:50,400 --> 00:59:51,400
Yes.

1123
00:59:51,400 --> 00:59:53,400
What appears right.

1124
00:59:53,400 --> 01:00:00,040
And and that's and it appears like then that is a syndicate of dentists or something that

1125
01:00:00,040 --> 01:00:07,520
I like bringing heroin in from a boat called the Golden Fang.

1126
01:00:07,520 --> 01:00:12,560
And the or like it sounds like they're bringing in multi like the Golden Fang.

1127
01:00:12,560 --> 01:00:13,560
Yes.

1128
01:00:13,560 --> 01:00:14,560
Multiple things.

1129
01:00:14,560 --> 01:00:18,120
The other thing is it seems like they're talking about heroin and dope.

1130
01:00:18,120 --> 01:00:22,880
They say they use a lot of ambiguous terms because, you know, once what they're doing

1131
01:00:22,880 --> 01:00:25,120
in the office does not seem like they're doing heroin.

1132
01:00:25,120 --> 01:00:27,120
It seems like they're doing blow.

1133
01:00:27,120 --> 01:00:29,120
But for sure.

1134
01:00:29,120 --> 01:00:36,080
But I mean, like honestly, it seemed like crushed up just narcotics like.

1135
01:00:36,080 --> 01:00:41,440
Well, but what the medication because like there wasn't even really communicated that

1136
01:00:41,440 --> 01:00:46,320
well, that on Martin, she was on the table.

1137
01:00:46,320 --> 01:00:51,000
You know, bottles were getting emptied and he was just like grinding up this enormous

1138
01:00:51,000 --> 01:00:53,160
mountain of like just yeah.

1139
01:00:53,160 --> 01:00:54,160
Absolutely.

1140
01:00:54,160 --> 01:00:59,240
Then there's that one dude, what puck or whatever the fuck that guy's name was where the guy

1141
01:00:59,240 --> 01:01:04,560
from the dude with all the bats in his office, which I fucking loved that whole.

1142
01:01:04,560 --> 01:01:11,400
Oh, well, who's who's the actress named the guy that is behind the desk with all the bats

1143
01:01:11,400 --> 01:01:13,320
I don't who is that guy?

1144
01:01:13,320 --> 01:01:14,320
I don't know.

1145
01:01:14,320 --> 01:01:15,320
Well, that guy was fucking awesome.

1146
01:01:15,320 --> 01:01:17,320
And like, I just loved that.

1147
01:01:17,320 --> 01:01:22,200
That was a five second thing or he just talks to him walks out of the room when he started

1148
01:01:22,200 --> 01:01:23,600
talking to the big guy.

1149
01:01:23,600 --> 01:01:30,280
And then that guy gave him a big guy because he's wearing a necklace that was a huge that

1150
01:01:30,280 --> 01:01:33,960
Shasta was wearing when she went on the boat ride.

1151
01:01:33,960 --> 01:01:34,960
Yeah.

1152
01:01:34,960 --> 01:01:35,960
Right.

1153
01:01:35,960 --> 01:01:38,840
And then he was also wearing a mesh shirt and then has an enormous swat stick a tattoo

1154
01:01:38,840 --> 01:01:39,840
to his face.

1155
01:01:39,840 --> 01:01:45,120
And then he has the heart of our heroine that they've been talking and then change.

1156
01:01:45,120 --> 01:01:46,120
He goes with.

1157
01:01:46,120 --> 01:01:47,120
Yeah.

1158
01:01:47,120 --> 01:01:50,560
And then it wants to just give him PCP.

1159
01:01:50,560 --> 01:01:51,800
Well, first he smokes.

1160
01:01:51,800 --> 01:01:55,280
Yeah, they spoke to the PCP.

1161
01:01:55,280 --> 01:01:56,520
Fucking nuts, man.

1162
01:01:56,520 --> 01:02:01,360
This was also when when Doc is smoking the PCP, he's also really enjoying it.

1163
01:02:01,360 --> 01:02:03,160
Like he was enjoying that.

1164
01:02:03,160 --> 01:02:09,800
That was the one of the most one of the most horrifying scenes I've ever thought like imagined

1165
01:02:09,800 --> 01:02:15,200
in in in a way to experience like if I ever experienced that, oh my God, that just seems

1166
01:02:15,200 --> 01:02:19,920
like the scariest fucking thing not only to realize that you've been dosed, but then to

1167
01:02:19,920 --> 01:02:26,480
get locked up on PCP and chained up to a pole and just like be fucking tortured.

1168
01:02:26,480 --> 01:02:27,480
That's that.

1169
01:02:27,480 --> 01:02:32,080
That was a horror movie by that guy to that guy.

1170
01:02:32,080 --> 01:02:34,480
Yeah, that was an enormous dude.

1171
01:02:34,480 --> 01:02:39,000
No, he's just at the sign of the sign of the peace.

1172
01:02:39,000 --> 01:02:40,320
That's Hindu problem.

1173
01:02:40,320 --> 01:02:44,240
That's a real which came up earlier in the movie, which is again, accredited to this

1174
01:02:44,240 --> 01:02:47,800
movie where they're not seeing when they're like, oh, it's a it's a Swastika.

1175
01:02:47,800 --> 01:02:49,280
He's like, no, it's a Hindu symbol.

1176
01:02:49,280 --> 01:02:50,280
I swear.

1177
01:02:50,280 --> 01:02:52,280
And that's what we're talking about.

1178
01:02:52,280 --> 01:02:54,280
Yeah, that's when it came out.

1179
01:02:54,280 --> 01:02:56,280
Oh, I thought.

1180
01:02:56,280 --> 01:03:04,480
Yeah, there's I just thought it was the worst thing I could possibly imagine to ever experience.

1181
01:03:04,480 --> 01:03:09,240
And then they get into the brief moment of action as as well.

1182
01:03:09,240 --> 01:03:17,160
And that guy's at the fucking the the the cult, the cult like retreat thing, isn't he?

1183
01:03:17,160 --> 01:03:21,800
Yeah, when when one does the what the fuck thing.

1184
01:03:21,800 --> 01:03:22,800
Yeah.

1185
01:03:22,800 --> 01:03:23,800
Yeah.

1186
01:03:23,800 --> 01:03:26,360
And then he calls attention to it and it causes him problems a little bit more too.

1187
01:03:26,360 --> 01:03:40,120
Like he the the movie though sends a lot of a lot of like fun fucking vibes.

1188
01:03:40,120 --> 01:03:47,600
In my opinion, though, like to a PI film noir kind of like movie like it.

1189
01:03:47,600 --> 01:03:52,240
I get really into any sort of like detective kind of shit.

1190
01:03:52,240 --> 01:03:53,960
And you are so awesome.

1191
01:03:53,960 --> 01:03:55,280
It's a slow burn.

1192
01:03:55,280 --> 01:03:56,280
Yeah, you take.

1193
01:03:56,280 --> 01:03:58,280
Have you seen the Maltese Falcon?

1194
01:03:58,280 --> 01:03:59,280
Yep.

1195
01:03:59,280 --> 01:04:01,280
We watched it together.

1196
01:04:01,280 --> 01:04:02,760
I remember seeing it a long time ago.

1197
01:04:02,760 --> 01:04:03,760
Like I can't.

1198
01:04:03,760 --> 01:04:04,760
Amazing.

1199
01:04:04,760 --> 01:04:05,760
I remember.

1200
01:04:05,760 --> 01:04:07,320
New Wars, but like also Blade Runner as well.

1201
01:04:07,320 --> 01:04:09,400
Like one of my favorite movies of all time.

1202
01:04:09,400 --> 01:04:13,000
I love Blade Runner so fucking much and Ringo.

1203
01:04:13,000 --> 01:04:14,000
Yeah.

1204
01:04:14,000 --> 01:04:15,000
Ringo too.

1205
01:04:15,000 --> 01:04:16,000
Yeah.

1206
01:04:16,000 --> 01:04:17,000
Oh, yeah.

1207
01:04:17,000 --> 01:04:18,000
Oh, yeah.

1208
01:04:18,000 --> 01:04:19,000
The great mouse detective.

1209
01:04:19,000 --> 01:04:20,000
The great.

1210
01:04:20,000 --> 01:04:26,280
Yes, all right.

1211
01:04:26,280 --> 01:04:30,760
So I was I'm just going to do this real quick because I think it's been really fun to talk

1212
01:04:30,760 --> 01:04:33,240
about like all our favorite parts and everything.

1213
01:04:33,240 --> 01:04:38,000
And the plot is not something that I think is very difficult to kind of go through everything.

1214
01:04:38,000 --> 01:04:40,720
But I thought this was kind of interesting.

1215
01:04:40,720 --> 01:04:45,280
It goes through the five plots of the movie and this is actually taken from the book,

1216
01:04:45,280 --> 01:04:46,440
but it helped me a lot.

1217
01:04:46,440 --> 01:04:51,200
So first plot, the Mickey plot, when billionaire real estate developer Mickey Wolfman has an

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01:04:51,200 --> 01:04:53,920
affair with hippie actress Trasta Faye Hepworth.

1219
01:04:53,920 --> 01:04:59,040
He discovers his conscience and decides to give away his fortune, his bodyguards, his

1220
01:04:59,040 --> 01:05:03,480
wife, her lover and the Justice Department plot against Mickey to prevent him from divesting

1221
01:05:03,480 --> 01:05:08,640
his billions with the help of the LAPD and their civilian militia.

1222
01:05:08,640 --> 01:05:09,640
Vigilant California.

1223
01:05:09,640 --> 01:05:10,640
That was what I was trying to think of.

1224
01:05:10,640 --> 01:05:15,160
As well as they kidnapped Mickey and send him for psychological reprogramming at the

1225
01:05:15,160 --> 01:05:19,640
Christ Gladen Institute, a high end rehab facility.

1226
01:05:19,640 --> 01:05:20,640
That's one plot.

1227
01:05:20,640 --> 01:05:22,360
The Shasta plot.

1228
01:05:22,360 --> 01:05:25,720
Doc Sportello's ex-girlfriend Shasta Faye Hepworth tells him that she's romantically

1229
01:05:25,720 --> 01:05:27,920
involved with Mickey Wolfman.

1230
01:05:27,920 --> 01:05:32,920
Shasta claims that Sloan and Riggs want her help in their scheme to put Mickey in a mental

1231
01:05:32,920 --> 01:05:33,920
institution.

1232
01:05:33,920 --> 01:05:37,320
Shasta believes she's being followed and asks Doc for help.

1233
01:05:37,320 --> 01:05:41,120
Then Shasta goes missing and Doc must find her.

1234
01:05:41,120 --> 01:05:42,120
The Koi plot.

1235
01:05:42,120 --> 01:05:45,200
Heroine addict Koi Harlegan has hit rock bottom.

1236
01:05:45,200 --> 01:05:50,000
His wife Hope Harlegan is also an addict and they can't give their toddler daughter the

1237
01:05:50,000 --> 01:05:51,600
care she needs.

1238
01:05:51,600 --> 01:05:55,000
Koi desperately needs a break in life and help comes from an unlikely source, Vigilant

1239
01:05:55,000 --> 01:05:56,000
California.

1240
01:05:56,000 --> 01:06:01,000
The LAPD's civilian militia who are described as GOP activists.

1241
01:06:01,000 --> 01:06:05,400
Vigilant California helps Roy kick his heroin habit, replace his rotten teeth with new

1242
01:06:05,400 --> 01:06:09,280
choppers and provides financially for Koi's wife and daughter.

1243
01:06:09,280 --> 01:06:10,280
The catch.

1244
01:06:10,280 --> 01:06:15,440
Koi must fake his own death and assume a new identity, working as a counter subversive informant

1245
01:06:15,440 --> 01:06:16,760
for the police.

1246
01:06:16,760 --> 01:06:20,160
This new start in life means he will never see his family again.

1247
01:06:20,160 --> 01:06:23,600
Koi is grateful for the new start but wants nothing more than to be reunited with his

1248
01:06:23,600 --> 01:06:24,920
family.

1249
01:06:24,920 --> 01:06:26,560
The Bigfoot plot.

1250
01:06:26,560 --> 01:06:31,200
LAPD cop Vincent and Delacato was shot dead in the line of duty.

1251
01:06:31,200 --> 01:06:37,000
His partner, Lieutenant Bigfoot Bjornsson, knows that the murder wasn't an accident.

1252
01:06:37,000 --> 01:06:42,080
One on the police force contracted the murder to Adrien Prussia, LAPD's civilian killer

1253
01:06:42,080 --> 01:06:43,080
for hire.

1254
01:06:43,080 --> 01:06:48,400
Bigfoot wants to avenge his partner's death but knows he is being closely watched and

1255
01:06:48,400 --> 01:06:51,720
informed on by his fellow colleagues on the force.

1256
01:06:51,720 --> 01:06:57,280
Instead, Bigfoot sets up hippie private eye Doc Sportello to kill Adrien Prussia and his

1257
01:06:57,280 --> 01:07:02,920
employee Puck Beaverton and perhaps to reveal who hired Adrien Prussia to kill Vincent and

1258
01:07:02,920 --> 01:07:04,200
Delacato.

1259
01:07:04,200 --> 01:07:07,400
And finally, the Golden Fang plot.

1260
01:07:07,400 --> 01:07:11,440
The Golden Fang is a vast international organized crime syndicate.

1261
01:07:11,440 --> 01:07:15,840
Some of its activities include smuggling heroin and counterfeit US currency, illegal arms

1262
01:07:15,840 --> 01:07:17,120
deals, murder and dentistry.

1263
01:07:17,120 --> 01:07:21,080
The Golden Fang has a carefully calculated way of maintaining control while staying out

1264
01:07:21,080 --> 01:07:22,080
of sight.

1265
01:07:22,080 --> 01:07:25,240
Doc tries to determine the existence and the nature of the Golden Fang.

1266
01:07:25,240 --> 01:07:26,960
That helped me immensely.

1267
01:07:26,960 --> 01:07:28,200
That is great.

1268
01:07:28,200 --> 01:07:33,480
In a way that like, I'm excited to watch the movie again after getting, and that's from

1269
01:07:33,480 --> 01:07:34,880
like Spark Notes.

1270
01:07:34,880 --> 01:07:37,760
Like this, essentially Spark Notes about the book.

1271
01:07:37,760 --> 01:07:42,120
So that just kind of like really sets the premise for all of our characters and the

1272
01:07:42,120 --> 01:07:43,120
stage.

1273
01:07:43,120 --> 01:07:51,160
Mild spoilers, just about Bigfoot kind of concocting the plan to have Doc kill these guys that

1274
01:07:51,160 --> 01:07:52,360
he couldn't.

1275
01:07:52,360 --> 01:07:53,560
Right.

1276
01:07:53,560 --> 01:07:58,080
But that was very brief and helped me so much after watching the movie too to kind of

1277
01:07:58,080 --> 01:08:00,720
piece all of it back together in my mind.

1278
01:08:00,720 --> 01:08:04,480
That being said, I think it is good to go and dry too and figure it out for yourself

1279
01:08:04,480 --> 01:08:09,120
and have this experience of reading up after all of those kind of experiences with movies

1280
01:08:09,120 --> 01:08:10,120
too.

1281
01:08:10,120 --> 01:08:13,720
But this is a movie you could watch and then still need that to like be like, what the

1282
01:08:13,720 --> 01:08:15,440
fuck did just happen?

1283
01:08:15,440 --> 01:08:22,800
Because like it is, it's cohesively explained to you, but there's so much happening everywhere

1284
01:08:22,800 --> 01:08:26,120
else in the scenes that it's happening in.

1285
01:08:26,120 --> 01:08:31,040
And you're so reeling from what just happened that it's tough to process all of this movie

1286
01:08:31,040 --> 01:08:32,040
at once.

1287
01:08:32,040 --> 01:08:34,120
But I will say it also does a really good job.

1288
01:08:34,120 --> 01:08:36,920
Yeah, it does a really good job of doing it.

1289
01:08:36,920 --> 01:08:42,040
It's just that's what and that's what all of his movies do to some degree where there's

1290
01:08:42,040 --> 01:08:48,560
so much being said without being said that you watching it over and over again can enjoy

1291
01:08:48,560 --> 01:08:51,560
all of the aspects of the movie.

1292
01:08:51,560 --> 01:08:54,720
Plus he films it flawlessly.

1293
01:08:54,720 --> 01:08:56,320
Absolutely.

1294
01:08:56,320 --> 01:09:02,960
So everything is perfectly set up to be absorbed.

1295
01:09:02,960 --> 01:09:07,480
I guess it's like how I would say it like, you know, he makes sure how the camera is

1296
01:09:07,480 --> 01:09:18,080
or how the people are blocked are put in a way that you the viewer can like get the most

1297
01:09:18,080 --> 01:09:20,440
out of it every time you see it.

1298
01:09:20,440 --> 01:09:24,080
And still gives the people room to be creative.

1299
01:09:24,080 --> 01:09:32,760
I feel like I the people that he brings on to his sets, it just must be just the absolute

1300
01:09:32,760 --> 01:09:35,720
best at their game and every single person from down down the line.

1301
01:09:35,720 --> 01:09:40,760
It just seems like everyone's bringing their absolute best work while still maintaining

1302
01:09:40,760 --> 01:09:44,200
a naturalism to everything as well.

1303
01:09:44,200 --> 01:09:51,280
Be that I feel like there's you got to give walking Phoenix room to fucking slapstick

1304
01:09:51,280 --> 01:09:56,840
and fall on the ground and however many sort of ways and uses physicality and and the blocking

1305
01:09:56,840 --> 01:10:03,080
of scenes and everything to you strikes me as a filmmaker that is willing to accept those

1306
01:10:03,080 --> 01:10:09,160
creative changes on the day rather than be so dedicated to whatever storyboard or whatever

1307
01:10:09,160 --> 01:10:13,520
whatever sort of thing that it has to be that that blows my mind that you can still

1308
01:10:13,520 --> 01:10:22,040
have something so artistic and beautiful that is improvised or created and it seems more

1309
01:10:22,040 --> 01:10:28,000
in a in a rush sort of guerrilla sort of warfare sort of not warfare but guerrilla sort of

1310
01:10:28,000 --> 01:10:29,000
way.

1311
01:10:29,000 --> 01:10:35,720
Yeah, that you know as well that they put a lot of time and energy into every little aspect,

1312
01:10:35,720 --> 01:10:41,160
but there's still a little bit that's a part of it that is imperfect and I and I love that

1313
01:10:41,160 --> 01:10:44,800
I love that part of that there's an imperfect side of it.

1314
01:10:44,800 --> 01:10:53,120
I think it's it's to build on that like also the way that with that plus the how natural

1315
01:10:53,120 --> 01:11:01,320
and and rich the world that it gives you and how much of a noirage like a mystery kind

1316
01:11:01,320 --> 01:11:07,200
of type movie that it is or like him playing all these different parts by the time there

1317
01:11:07,200 --> 01:11:15,200
is violence and stuff like that it's it is like to some degree a payoff but it's not

1318
01:11:15,200 --> 01:11:26,440
like it's it's like I like he builds tension and everything before the it's not violence

1319
01:11:26,440 --> 01:11:31,480
that just happens right away and like I think there's not a lot of movies that like take

1320
01:11:31,480 --> 01:11:42,560
their time and use use danger and and all that to make something punctuated.

1321
01:11:42,560 --> 01:11:49,280
I think like Brandon said earlier you're in good hands you know with whatever he films

1322
01:11:49,280 --> 01:11:58,160
but this was dealing kind of darker than like some of his his more recent I guess like you

1323
01:11:58,160 --> 01:12:00,280
have licorice pizza what did you have before that.

1324
01:12:00,280 --> 01:12:01,960
I think this is before licorice pizza.

1325
01:12:01,960 --> 01:12:06,440
Yeah I mean his his filmography is oh it is.

1326
01:12:06,440 --> 01:12:10,400
You know it is like yeah again like nine films I think and then whatever he's doing

1327
01:12:10,400 --> 01:12:16,920
next Phantom Thread was maybe the thing before that maybe it was inherent by some Phantom

1328
01:12:16,920 --> 01:12:22,120
Thread I couldn't easily find out but I'm just gonna go with my intuition.

1329
01:12:22,120 --> 01:12:26,560
This has been an excellent conversation I was gonna say if you guys know what would you

1330
01:12:26,560 --> 01:12:27,560
got Danny.

1331
01:12:27,560 --> 01:12:32,400
Yeah I was just saying I haven't played on the background like while we're talking and

1332
01:12:32,400 --> 01:12:36,800
like I also just want to say you have a movie playing on the background.

1333
01:12:36,800 --> 01:12:37,800
That's a good move.

1334
01:12:37,800 --> 01:12:38,800
Wow.

1335
01:12:38,800 --> 01:12:44,760
When he has when he has all of those jugs like when he has like all this jugs it's just

1336
01:12:44,760 --> 01:12:49,080
such an enormous like he has just sitting in the apartment.

1337
01:12:49,080 --> 01:12:56,120
Yeah yeah yeah he's just yeah it's just all bundled up in like 12 giant like blocks and

1338
01:12:56,120 --> 01:13:03,920
they do a good job of just sitting there and it's just feeling like oh god like this is

1339
01:13:03,920 --> 01:13:11,440
like I think just that builds such a big like tension to like oh man like this is a nightmare

1340
01:13:11,440 --> 01:13:17,600
like like you don't you don't want no part of like what you know somebody is about to

1341
01:13:17,600 --> 01:13:20,920
be really mad about this or you know how you navigate that.

1342
01:13:20,920 --> 01:13:26,560
And I think it has a smooth kind of landing from that tension that they build of you know

1343
01:13:26,560 --> 01:13:33,600
what he gets himself into and how he you know by just knowing all these parts and pieces

1344
01:13:33,600 --> 01:13:43,800
ends up having to be the the centerpiece of this fucking pile of shit that that he got

1345
01:13:43,800 --> 01:13:52,280
into and he does also end up like smoothly getting out of it and it's like that interaction

1346
01:13:52,280 --> 01:13:54,800
of him getting out of it he ends where he starts.

1347
01:13:54,800 --> 01:14:01,280
But he navigated it better than like somebody else you know anybody else would have gotten

1348
01:14:01,280 --> 01:14:05,480
their fucking neck broken like you know halfway through.

1349
01:14:05,480 --> 01:14:14,560
I think you know him like being exactly who he was was what made a lot of things pay off

1350
01:14:14,560 --> 01:14:17,720
or plan or pay out in different forms.

1351
01:14:17,720 --> 01:14:24,360
But also it's like satisfying being who he was and this is something that was like another

1352
01:14:24,360 --> 01:14:29,640
kind of special unique part of this movie that's different from noir movies where there's

1353
01:14:29,640 --> 01:14:35,800
definitely an element where they see the person investigating it whoever's in charge of whatever

1354
01:14:35,800 --> 01:14:41,320
who whoever has a stake in this in this whole plot sees the person investigating it and

1355
01:14:41,320 --> 01:14:46,920
tries to see if they can use that person as a pawn in their own game and they try to take

1356
01:14:46,920 --> 01:14:50,440
advantage of Jake from Chinatown and try to try to see if they can use him in their own

1357
01:14:50,440 --> 01:14:55,960
means whether it's for information for actually doing something for feeding him misinformation.

1358
01:14:55,960 --> 01:15:04,360
The way that they treat docking this is like aggressively like trying to take advantage

1359
01:15:04,360 --> 01:15:09,000
of him because he's a dumb fucking hippie and so every single person that you feel like

1360
01:15:09,000 --> 01:15:15,600
he comes in contact with it has some ulterior motive that he's fucking stupid to realize

1361
01:15:15,600 --> 01:15:18,600
sometimes he does realize and he uses that to his advantage to like oh they don't think

1362
01:15:18,600 --> 01:15:25,880
I know but I know and other times he actually doesn't and I thought that was a special part

1363
01:15:25,880 --> 01:15:31,640
of this noir sort of and I think that's kind of the PTA trying to trying to get out of that

1364
01:15:31,640 --> 01:15:38,200
sort of energy of of how the hippie is treated in this in that in that time and in there and

1365
01:15:38,200 --> 01:15:42,360
everything and very strongly from Brolin at first but then everyone else too.

1366
01:15:43,400 --> 01:15:48,760
It's like yeah yeah it's like Joanna Newsom said about how he's

1367
01:15:48,760 --> 01:16:01,480
done like what how does she frame it it's like you you haven't done yeah yeah yeah it's

1368
01:16:02,360 --> 01:16:05,720
you've done bad things in your life but you've also done good things in your life

1369
01:16:06,280 --> 01:16:12,360
and so it doesn't mean that you're a bad person you're just a person yeah like yeah he's a good

1370
01:16:12,360 --> 01:16:15,960
things but you've done you've done good something it ends with like you've done good yeah you're

1371
01:16:15,960 --> 01:16:21,960
not a good man but you've done good yeah something like that oh that's it is it's very well played

1372
01:16:21,960 --> 01:16:27,240
because he does do things that are out of the goodness of his heart he does he does do selfless

1373
01:16:27,240 --> 01:16:35,320
acts and throughout throughout the movie to help people and that just makes for a very interesting

1374
01:16:35,320 --> 01:16:39,720
deep character at the heart of it who could be a straight man or something but no he's got his own

1375
01:16:39,720 --> 01:16:46,200
weird flawed things going on and he's constant like his whole deal and what he's chasing as well is

1376
01:16:46,920 --> 01:16:54,120
the specter of this old ex that keeps appearing at at his doorstep at like you know almost like the

1377
01:16:54,120 --> 01:16:58,840
Christmas of ghosts of past present future because he shows up like three times throughout the movie

1378
01:16:58,840 --> 01:17:03,640
to give him like a little bit more information or have another have another scene and each each time

1379
01:17:03,640 --> 01:17:11,400
it's just like pushing him a little bit further yeah I'm not third time geez

1380
01:17:14,840 --> 01:17:17,480
I do like when they were drinking those old-timey beers too that was fun

1381
01:17:18,360 --> 01:17:26,600
yeah that was a note I made to myself of like the do you guys wipe your cans not like that maybe

1382
01:17:26,600 --> 01:17:31,880
if I see something there if it was maybe in the cooler or something I don't know I'll say that

1383
01:17:31,880 --> 01:17:39,080
like the sandy cooler back then it probably made a lot more sense to because there's just metal

1384
01:17:39,080 --> 01:17:45,640
shavings all over the place who knows yeah like because I feel like that's the end really rubbing

1385
01:17:45,640 --> 01:17:51,160
the motive for the people that I've met that do that every time they get a can but it's also funny

1386
01:17:51,160 --> 01:17:55,960
that's their thing it's like there's a lot of like production like there's a lot of stuff in the

1387
01:17:55,960 --> 01:18:01,560
production that just gets on top of the can so you're drinking like whatever but but I mean

1388
01:18:01,560 --> 01:18:05,640
it's really gonna do anything but if I see actual dirt like if I see fucking dirt I'm like I'll just

1389
01:18:05,640 --> 01:18:13,800
give a little wipe then that's me okay okay I mean that's that's a good idea I mean like give me a

1390
01:18:13,800 --> 01:18:20,920
monster if you don't like you know I love the dirt but maybe I do but you see in dock really wipes

1391
01:18:20,920 --> 01:18:25,640
like a dude who like seems like he's barely wearing shoes most of the time and like yeah he's he's

1392
01:18:25,640 --> 01:18:34,200
worried about the candor and like that's so funny that's funny yeah yeah it's he has these

1393
01:18:34,200 --> 01:18:41,560
idiosyncrasies that are really great and one thing I think overall that I found so fun is

1394
01:18:41,560 --> 01:18:48,840
his moral compass is pretty like I don't know uh no no no it's you understand what that moral

1395
01:18:48,840 --> 01:18:57,560
compass is he has righteousness yeah like he operates with a code it's kind of you know weird

1396
01:18:57,560 --> 01:19:04,120
and he is selfish sometimes but you know it right right but you're like but he's loyal he's honest

1397
01:19:04,120 --> 01:19:09,000
like yeah he has integrity yeah and he doesn't change throughout the movie he really stays the

1398
01:19:09,000 --> 01:19:14,280
same and he ends exactly where he starts like the and there is like that same shot of the beach like

1399
01:19:14,280 --> 01:19:19,240
right at the end kind of to that lets you know that he's he's went through this whole journey to be

1400
01:19:19,240 --> 01:19:23,800
right where he is again but he is kind of the harbinger or like the what are you the arbiter

1401
01:19:23,800 --> 01:19:32,200
of anything of of the story like the forest gump I really love the golden thing like I really love

1402
01:19:32,200 --> 01:19:39,000
the way to introduce him and understand him a lot more yeah yeah that was a really good forest gump

1403
01:19:39,000 --> 01:19:50,120
yeah forest gump yeah yeah sorry daddy sorry but you know very cop right total forest gump man

1404
01:19:51,880 --> 01:19:57,320
I got some notes here if you guys want to sorry oh I'm sorry we talked about Neil Young

1405
01:19:58,040 --> 01:20:04,840
oh yeah oh we still got we're still what do you got I love to I love to talk about Neil Young

1406
01:20:04,840 --> 01:20:11,160
man just like I was gonna I was just gonna say no I mean man I was just gonna say yeah now it's

1407
01:20:11,160 --> 01:20:16,440
what you're gonna say better than Neil Young just ask yourself this Danny ask yourself this question

1408
01:20:17,080 --> 01:20:23,000
comparable I don't know man okay okay then let's hear it if it's comparable then let's hear it

1409
01:20:23,000 --> 01:20:28,600
first of all how dare you put that on me but but uh you know you know what you're doing

1410
01:20:28,600 --> 01:20:37,400
Crosby stills and I was gonna say I really liked that like as we're building his character the one

1411
01:20:37,400 --> 01:20:42,360
of the scenes that really did it for me was like when he walks into that doctor's office and he walks

1412
01:20:42,360 --> 01:20:48,840
by that one doctor he's like doctor and then they have a doctor and then he and then I read off oh

1413
01:20:48,840 --> 01:20:55,560
oh and she was great too but like he walks by that one as he walks in and then and like he like

1414
01:20:55,560 --> 01:21:00,360
why is he going into the doctor's office but he walks in he walks by that doctor the doctor calls

1415
01:21:00,360 --> 01:21:07,720
him doctor he walks in he talks to uh Michael K Williams and has that interaction and like just

1416
01:21:07,720 --> 01:21:15,480
him having this doctor's office that is like his kind of base of operations for is like every PI

1417
01:21:15,480 --> 01:21:21,720
like it's it's built into like every PI story that like they all have different they're working in

1418
01:21:21,720 --> 01:21:26,600
an office building they're they're breaking mortar place where they like drink they got their name

1419
01:21:26,600 --> 01:21:34,280
name door and it's just yeah but him having it as a more of a strip mall like uh yeah strip mall

1420
01:21:34,280 --> 01:21:39,880
complex yeah you have to go up like a enter a door and then go up a weird all the way and

1421
01:21:40,600 --> 01:21:46,680
his being like a actual a doctor's office and then like he's smoking the joint with his head

1422
01:21:46,680 --> 01:21:52,760
feet up in the stirrups like in some like birthing chair for some reason and then he's got he's doing

1423
01:21:52,760 --> 01:21:57,960
nitrous in that one scene and like just that being like his base of operations was just such a

1424
01:21:57,960 --> 01:22:07,160
fucking like fun interesting like uh like little foible that all that also like gave him like very

1425
01:22:07,160 --> 01:22:13,880
much like this guy's been doing this PI thing a long time yes it's like I guess under the table

1426
01:22:13,880 --> 01:22:18,600
deal with like some doctor's office he makes good relationships with people he he knows what he's

1427
01:22:18,600 --> 01:22:27,960
doing there yeah he's he's so embedded into this world and uh I think that that between like you

1428
01:22:27,960 --> 01:22:32,920
know something like like big big libousy where that guy has no idea what's going on he's just

1429
01:22:32,920 --> 01:22:39,800
stumbling around this one is it's very fun and with him having such deep connections and you know

1430
01:22:39,800 --> 01:22:46,920
being able to like you know break break down all the uh what's happening very quickly so

1431
01:22:48,280 --> 01:22:55,000
it's all educational everything that's happening for for finding out what's what the storyline is

1432
01:22:55,000 --> 01:23:00,600
it kind of reminds me of have you ever seen the movie brick with uh yeah I brought that one up

1433
01:23:00,600 --> 01:23:07,000
early to talk about all the noir movies yeah yeah that is actually one of my favorite like

1434
01:23:07,000 --> 01:23:14,760
examples at least of a noir movie but like in such an interesting way doing it put into like some

1435
01:23:14,760 --> 01:23:22,280
sort of parameters like that one being like high school but uh I would say like how there's a lot

1436
01:23:22,280 --> 01:23:29,640
of just the fact scenes but also has a lot of like goofy shit happening in the background or

1437
01:23:30,200 --> 01:23:35,880
or in the foreground of the just the fact scenes that gets in the way of it which makes this movie

1438
01:23:35,880 --> 01:23:43,400
feel meandering but also I think is the fun part of it uh it's essential in a movie like this and

1439
01:23:43,400 --> 01:23:49,400
in an actual noir movie I feel like it serves as not only color but in a lot of cases like red

1440
01:23:49,400 --> 01:23:56,040
herrings too when you have extra stuff going on it diverts your attention to uh the real core of

1441
01:23:56,040 --> 01:24:00,120
it all and and trying to keep your mind on track like the the main character and everything too so

1442
01:24:00,120 --> 01:24:09,720
it kind of it it trips you up a bit and this is one where everything everybody knows more than him

1443
01:24:09,720 --> 01:24:15,000
and everyone is telling him exactly the information that he needs to know maybe not there's there's

1444
01:24:15,000 --> 01:24:19,720
some misinformation for sure there's some people there's some people fucking with him for sure but

1445
01:24:19,720 --> 01:24:24,280
it's because everybody's there but it's like it's it's up to him to put it together and watching

1446
01:24:24,280 --> 01:24:31,160
him try is is the humor it's the he has to learn why they're trying to use him so that's that's

1447
01:24:31,160 --> 01:24:36,920
what I would say about it is it's so funny to just see everybody immediately clocks him as a moron

1448
01:24:36,920 --> 01:24:42,360
and then so it thinks they're smarter than him and so then they divulge information and talk to him

1449
01:24:42,360 --> 01:24:48,440
in a certain way that that he just is allowed to just ingratiate himself into all of these worlds

1450
01:24:48,440 --> 01:24:54,760
and he's also too a thing that uh yeah something I thought about where a good example of this is uh

1451
01:24:54,760 --> 01:25:01,320
him going to it's like a really uh it's well to do family I count the wolfman's I think

1452
01:25:02,920 --> 01:25:10,600
yeah his wife his speech changes he like uh he like responds to things in a way that he thinks

1453
01:25:10,600 --> 01:25:17,800
that person like that's how you should say things it's absolutely fantastic the doctor too yeah when

1454
01:25:17,800 --> 01:25:21,640
he's like that the guys asking him all these follow-up questions like well why'd you come out here

1455
01:25:21,640 --> 01:25:30,840
we're not really big or whatever and he's like well you know as this whole like tone that's so

1456
01:25:30,840 --> 01:25:36,840
that's so funny that just carries him through uh through the scenes in the moments and uh

1457
01:25:38,280 --> 01:25:43,240
that's some of the funniest stuff where where it is almost like a heist or a con movie at that

1458
01:25:43,240 --> 01:25:47,800
that point where you're seeing this guy kind of work through it I love disguises disguises are fun

1459
01:25:47,800 --> 01:25:53,240
yeah he put the infiltrate on and everything too all like it's yeah and oh that guy that you're

1460
01:25:53,240 --> 01:25:58,920
talking about too where he shows them the like indoctrination almost that like cinema that they

1461
01:25:58,920 --> 01:26:03,960
have in there that they're just showing I can't remember the actor's name of that period but

1462
01:26:03,960 --> 01:26:09,880
it's all about like anti-communist stuff yeah right yeah and then I forget the name and then he knows

1463
01:26:09,880 --> 01:26:15,560
the line and and there's just a moment where it's on him and he's just seeing the every line of the

1464
01:26:15,560 --> 01:26:23,240
of the movie uh and yeah just being like you know so anti-communist and that all the that looked very

1465
01:26:23,240 --> 01:26:27,480
Scientology that that building and all the walls and how they're painted like a certain kind of weird

1466
01:26:27,480 --> 01:26:34,520
indigo color um yeah I don't know man everything is a texture like that you can see the texture on

1467
01:26:34,520 --> 01:26:41,160
your skin on the walls and and the haziness and then the sweat and the grime and and it feels

1468
01:26:41,960 --> 01:26:46,760
from an era that I never lived in but it feels accurate in a weird way because it just seems so

1469
01:26:47,320 --> 01:26:53,240
much that he knows what he's talking about and yeah we're in good hands um I was going to work

1470
01:26:53,240 --> 01:26:59,320
through some of my last notes here and see if there's anything else I I missed when uh Brolin

1471
01:26:59,320 --> 01:27:06,600
was like in the commercials that could only be described in two words radon that was pretty good

1472
01:27:06,600 --> 01:27:12,360
the vagina door uh was excellent it was like the wizard of Oz like little door but it was just

1473
01:27:12,360 --> 01:27:17,640
it was a vagina and then they opened it up and yeah that was funny was that supposed to be like

1474
01:27:17,640 --> 01:27:23,800
a glory hole or something or like glory what was the purpose of it though it was so weird it was

1475
01:27:23,800 --> 01:27:29,720
like to go to the back area of the well it's probably where they do massages in that room but

1476
01:27:30,280 --> 01:27:34,440
like so bizarre it was like why would you have like I don't know yeah what is the purpose of

1477
01:27:34,440 --> 01:27:40,360
that vagina door geez all right I took it as like a glory hole I don't know man I wish I could

1478
01:27:40,360 --> 01:27:48,600
I was moving off to feel that was a big glory hole dude uh wow that was like for a massive

1479
01:27:48,600 --> 01:27:54,360
put of someone's head through it right it was probably for elephants or something yeah yeah totally

1480
01:27:55,560 --> 01:28:01,240
when Brolin is eating the chocolate bananas throughout the movie oh man what was going on

1481
01:28:01,240 --> 01:28:07,560
there I thought it was a musical but he's like yeah he's like oh his partner was it implied that

1482
01:28:07,560 --> 01:28:12,600
like maybe maybe maybe it was something I think that's going on there because then when he was

1483
01:28:12,600 --> 01:28:18,280
eating that banana I was like no that's some gay shit and then like with how his relationship

1484
01:28:18,280 --> 01:28:33,880
with his wife was like dude he started like deeped up in that banana like in like a little bit of

1485
01:28:33,880 --> 01:28:39,800
way like he was and like then hilarious whole part maybe I think maybe second funniest with his partner

1486
01:28:39,800 --> 01:28:48,200
and like him and his wife clearly were not working and so like I I I there seemed to be a thing that

1487
01:28:48,200 --> 01:28:53,480
like they didn't explain they didn't go into it but I could totally see it yeah but what do you

1488
01:28:53,480 --> 01:28:59,800
think about like that was implied but I is it just me or like you know it was somewhat implied but

1489
01:28:59,800 --> 01:29:05,400
I can see that yeah what do you think about frozen chocolate bananas though because I think those

1490
01:29:05,400 --> 01:29:11,080
are pretty good yeah I mean oh yeah I don't know when you have to bite into it is kind of tender

1491
01:29:11,080 --> 01:29:14,840
on your teeth sometimes if it's if it's so frozen you're like oh now I got to bite into this thing

1492
01:29:14,840 --> 01:29:19,160
or you just can just like hog it down you want to let you want to let it stop a little bit you know

1493
01:29:19,160 --> 01:29:24,360
but not too right because you're right just what he was doing and then it's a hot day yeah yeah yeah

1494
01:29:25,240 --> 01:29:28,920
and he had it as desk it's like he's at the station where is the freezer that he's keeping all

1495
01:29:28,920 --> 01:29:32,920
these frozen bananas at the but these policemen you know they're having pool parties who knows

1496
01:29:32,920 --> 01:29:39,800
they feel like he had a lemon frozen bananas out of the freezer there was that like a common thing

1497
01:29:39,800 --> 01:29:46,440
like everybody did frozen bananas back then big foot's got a freezer full of bananas yeah yeah

1498
01:29:47,080 --> 01:29:52,200
I mean yeah I was I really thought it was a relationship with his wife too was so funny

1499
01:29:52,200 --> 01:29:57,800
that conversation where he's uh his wife is yelling at both of them and you never see her face

1500
01:29:57,800 --> 01:30:03,320
either you never see her face but she just dresses both of them down yeah there's a there's that

1501
01:30:03,320 --> 01:30:11,320
moment where Joaquin just gets one word in and he's like he called me though

1502
01:30:12,040 --> 01:30:15,880
and his son is just like pouring him whiskey all the time you're the reason why we're paying so many

1503
01:30:15,880 --> 01:30:23,160
therapy bills in his house he's household god she's like one day a week like I was like oh fuck

1504
01:30:23,880 --> 01:30:31,720
yeah no I definitely think like that he eats an entire plate of weed shit what yeah that was in

1505
01:30:31,720 --> 01:30:42,680
my notes as well yeah that shit is nuts that whole scene is like oh my yeah I was I was doing the

1506
01:30:42,680 --> 01:30:50,440
same thing I was like oh this is what I'm doing too but he's the first thing he says is like after

1507
01:30:50,440 --> 01:30:58,200
that he's like are you are you okay man he just eats his eats all these roaches and fucking papers

1508
01:30:58,200 --> 01:31:05,080
and all it just goes down it's like gnarly he's gross and those are crazy funny and absurd and surreal

1509
01:31:05,080 --> 01:31:13,080
at it's he's it's a great scene I I I haven't said I love it I don't I don't think we've said on the

1510
01:31:13,080 --> 01:31:20,600
on the pod yet um the pankeko scene if anybody wants to give give their best uh Josh Brolin and

1511
01:31:20,600 --> 01:31:29,400
this movie impression of the scene that okay you go for a daddy daddy do it do it I kind of I'm

1512
01:31:29,400 --> 01:31:35,080
trying to like get get the exact word you guys want to watch it you can watch it yeah yeah yeah yeah

1513
01:31:35,080 --> 01:31:47,560
yeah yeah it's very funny it is very funny um let me see what other notes I have too while I bring

1514
01:31:47,560 --> 01:31:58,760
this up um midday refresh goes it's a refresh goes we'll have the midday refresh goes on the in the

1515
01:31:58,760 --> 01:32:08,840
veranda that's another name also he was on the I think is what they order when she's trying to get

1516
01:32:08,840 --> 01:32:15,880
them fucked up oh take it take he was on the he was on what the fuck dude was living the fucking

1517
01:32:15,880 --> 01:32:21,640
life adub is living the life he had all those ties of all those naked girls yeah he had like

1518
01:32:21,640 --> 01:32:33,320
the most damn thing I've ever seen in my life that's that's I love that you have a guy that

1519
01:32:33,320 --> 01:32:39,960
does custom pose naked lady ties for you I feel like that point is so I just oh

1520
01:32:39,960 --> 01:32:50,680
the balls you have to wear that out naked lady and tie embroidered on speed dial

1521
01:32:55,560 --> 01:33:02,520
oh I'm missing the Shasta one there's like 500 different specific two ties with different

1522
01:33:03,320 --> 01:33:08,200
women on them it's just such a good plot point it's such a weird thing it feels very la it feels

1523
01:33:08,200 --> 01:33:15,320
very campy kitschy sort of it it works so well in the great in the grimy sort of world you hear

1524
01:33:15,320 --> 01:33:23,240
so much about this guy before you meet him right that it's like shit like that makes him such a

1525
01:33:23,240 --> 01:33:28,200
rich character that he doesn't have to do anything by the time you see him the more casually plays it

1526
01:33:28,200 --> 01:33:35,640
the better because like you now know everything about this guy to a weird degree uh I think it's

1527
01:33:35,640 --> 01:33:43,080
such a great way to introduce a major character and like that guy was on screen for like fucking

1528
01:33:43,080 --> 01:33:50,920
10 minutes like you never so memorable it was so memorable and that whole wall of the ties and

1529
01:33:50,920 --> 01:33:56,760
him being able to flip through and each one having a specific look was like I my mind just registered

1530
01:33:56,760 --> 01:34:02,600
like wow wow that's a lot of work however you did it like to get all those ties to set this all up

1531
01:34:02,600 --> 01:34:09,960
for the scene that lasts 30 seconds to two minutes it's like wow I'm somewhere out there James it makes

1532
01:34:09,960 --> 01:34:19,240
out there what our ties with I know no but just like what that does to me it makes me want to

1533
01:34:19,240 --> 01:34:24,280
invest in the movie further as it goes it's like wow there's a lot of work being placed in this I

1534
01:34:24,280 --> 01:34:31,400
should really like hone in and try to take it all take it all in uh because they're trying to do

1535
01:34:31,400 --> 01:34:36,360
something here because it's a lot of time and energy to do that I also realized like we don't

1536
01:34:36,360 --> 01:34:42,520
wear ties that much anymore you know just depends on yeah but I guess it is a lot of

1537
01:34:43,800 --> 01:34:44,920
here we are no cap

1538
01:34:44,920 --> 01:35:02,040
yeah we're all wearing caps here today all right let's watch the moto pen penecucco scene

1539
01:35:02,040 --> 01:35:06,680
Motto pen and cake

1540
01:35:10,680 --> 01:35:14,440
pancakes aren't quite as good as my mother's but what I really go for here is the respect

1541
01:35:22,520 --> 01:35:23,800
moto penecucco

1542
01:35:23,800 --> 01:35:32,840
so that so that song is uh we listened to it in our double episode the double episode as well

1543
01:35:32,840 --> 01:35:38,920
because that's a that's a plot point of the double that that song um is very very good very good

1544
01:35:38,920 --> 01:35:44,680
song I'm trying to remember the the name of it I haven't had it somewhere I can find out um but

1545
01:35:45,400 --> 01:35:51,480
that is a silly fucking scene that is that is that is a silly silly scene there's some other

1546
01:35:51,480 --> 01:35:57,800
man I'm trying to think of the other movie that never mind um if you if you uh if you

1547
01:35:57,800 --> 01:36:02,920
want to link the song in the chat I can I can bring it up it's a it's a movie info movie info

1548
01:36:02,920 --> 01:36:09,240
oh yeah that's right it is um also I have the pictures of comparing zoot from the muppets to

1549
01:36:10,040 --> 01:36:16,760
the outfit of oh I love that what do you kneel young we gotta do kneel young after the very

1550
01:36:16,760 --> 01:36:24,280
clear the saxophonist from the muppets and the in the band is uh very much the saxophonist

1551
01:36:25,080 --> 01:36:31,000
that uh coy is in dr teeth and the electric yeah uh huh yeah uh owen wilson is very much like

1552
01:36:31,720 --> 01:36:39,160
costumes after that yeah totally and I see it now and then yeah of course docks fortella is very

1553
01:36:39,160 --> 01:36:45,880
much uh costumed after kneel young uh very much so and yeah this is a movie that one that's

1554
01:36:45,880 --> 01:36:52,360
that was nominated for two oscaras one for screenplay and it I I think it won maybe not but I know

1555
01:36:52,360 --> 01:36:59,080
it was nominated for costumes deservedly so because the costumes are insanely good incredible um

1556
01:36:59,080 --> 01:37:04,200
absolutely amazing so let's you know and then yeah the kneel young song there's just amazing

1557
01:37:04,200 --> 01:37:14,680
soundtrack sukiyaki by key uh can you sake mada let's uh oh this song ribs tanny wait

1558
01:37:14,680 --> 01:37:19,240
should I watch the screen

1559
01:37:26,200 --> 01:37:28,920
I've listened to the song quite a bit after the double

1560
01:37:34,360 --> 01:37:38,600
it's the best thing that that the double did was give me the song

1561
01:37:38,600 --> 01:37:44,600
um

1562
01:37:47,240 --> 01:37:48,600
such a sweet voice

1563
01:37:52,280 --> 01:37:53,160
a little bit goes on

1564
01:37:56,280 --> 01:38:01,320
so similar to this song I know we need to get into kneel young but I just want to comment on

1565
01:38:01,320 --> 01:38:09,720
how wonderful everything about the almost the last scene where he is dropping off the um

1566
01:38:10,920 --> 01:38:18,360
I don't know the drugs the barrels of the hay barrels of drugs to that um uh the wife and the

1567
01:38:18,360 --> 01:38:27,000
daughter and they're pulling up and you can and then for that scene it's got sam cooks oh what a

1568
01:38:27,000 --> 01:38:33,320
wonderful world of all time playing and it was their interaction was so great because the girl

1569
01:38:33,320 --> 01:38:38,760
just like flips them off and stuff and he does like peace sign but then all some flips are all

1570
01:38:38,760 --> 01:38:43,160
yeah and I just like I love every about what's going on right now

1571
01:38:47,400 --> 01:38:54,360
I I I think like yeah the this movie puts a smile on your face the whole time

1572
01:38:54,360 --> 01:39:02,920
um uh dude if you let it it's funny it's so funny and it's so biting uh it has an interesting point

1573
01:39:02,920 --> 01:39:13,320
of view uh so some of my other notes here um I was looking at when he was uh trying to take notes

1574
01:39:13,320 --> 01:39:17,080
when he was I think he was on the laughing gas or I forget exactly what scene he's trying to

1575
01:39:17,080 --> 01:39:23,880
do he's taking information in he's got his notebook and his pen and he's like uh huh uh huh and they're

1576
01:39:23,880 --> 01:39:28,040
like they give him some I forget I forget the name of what they what they tell him but it's a

1577
01:39:28,040 --> 01:39:34,600
Spanish name and what he writes is like something Spanish in the notebook because he doesn't remember

1578
01:39:34,600 --> 01:39:40,920
the name he's like his notes are shit like his face is like yeah uh huh and it's like you see the

1579
01:39:40,920 --> 01:39:47,960
notes and it's just something Spanish I don't forget yeah like uh every time he goes to write down a

1580
01:39:47,960 --> 01:39:53,480
note it's like the most unhelpful thing to like probably look back to and one time he was just

1581
01:39:53,480 --> 01:40:01,720
like hallucinating yeah yeah weird okay well and then the second after he says that the guy's

1582
01:40:01,720 --> 01:40:05,880
hallucinating about what he's talking about then it breaks down how exactly what he's talking about

1583
01:40:05,880 --> 01:40:14,920
is happening yeah that's the Wolfman broke down the property and like that it's just like how much

1584
01:40:14,920 --> 01:40:23,080
what he just wrote down is completely off and wrong like it he has like uh like a very bad

1585
01:40:23,720 --> 01:40:33,000
like a bad like uh like foresight foresight about procedure but but he picks up on what's

1586
01:40:33,000 --> 01:40:39,160
happening once it happens like but he every time he clans or looks out for it what when they ask him

1587
01:40:40,360 --> 01:40:47,800
about like when he's at the fucking uh the the clinic and he's they're asking them why he would

1588
01:40:47,800 --> 01:40:56,760
come down there he's like oh well my clients have uh they think that this place has it aligns with a

1589
01:40:56,760 --> 01:41:04,600
planetary chakra like nods and like keeps looking forward and then he turns back and looks at one

1590
01:41:04,600 --> 01:41:08,920
of the like buttons or something like that and he's just like right and then like turns around and

1591
01:41:12,760 --> 01:41:18,840
that his commitment and and like fucking way that he moves through this world makes this movie

1592
01:41:18,840 --> 01:41:25,720
fucking a blast I think like uh 100% hell yeah big time walking walking Phoenix knows

1593
01:41:25,720 --> 01:41:30,840
how to run a vehicle dude he rips it's one of those things like yeah right if he's in the movie it

1594
01:41:30,840 --> 01:41:35,800
definitely perks perks me up a bit more and makes me want to see it see it more the fact that he's

1595
01:41:35,800 --> 01:41:41,080
in it uh my last night was like when they were referring to someone like being dead or something

1596
01:41:41,080 --> 01:41:48,520
was calling the Buenos Notos Express and I'm gonna start using that in my own lexicon now

1597
01:41:48,520 --> 01:41:54,520
when I'm going to bed now I'm taking the Buenos Notos Express

1598
01:41:59,720 --> 01:42:02,280
could have been a brolin like police room or something too oh yeah

1599
01:42:05,960 --> 01:42:07,800
that is so cavalier

1600
01:42:07,800 --> 01:42:17,800
that's so good oh like man I'm really glad you got the sling is great at that time um well

1601
01:42:17,800 --> 01:42:22,120
that's yeah that's that's been uh that's been our discussion before we get into some reviews you

1602
01:42:22,120 --> 01:42:26,760
guys want to take more more break yes okay we'll be right back and uh

1603
01:42:26,760 --> 01:42:35,480
thank you all right so let's let's I was gonna talk about this like as soon as or as much as I

1604
01:42:35,480 --> 01:42:46,680
could so I want to say that that like what a while this really puts you know where we're at as a

1605
01:42:46,680 --> 01:42:55,800
as a as a economy in perspective yeah I mean it's 2024 this is a great example of inflation right

1606
01:42:55,800 --> 01:43:08,280
I mean you're looking at all right so blowjobs 1495 $14.95 pussyfeast 1495 $14.95 old-fashioned

1607
01:43:08,840 --> 01:43:18,280
fuck 24 dollars 95 cents you actually technically get a discount two girl fuck 48 dollars and 95 cents

1608
01:43:18,280 --> 01:43:26,040
hmm man all you hear old people say is oh I remember frankfurter's cost to nickel and this is this

1609
01:43:28,120 --> 01:43:38,280
look at what we're looking at here man like the value of the dollar has significantly decreased

1610
01:43:38,280 --> 01:43:46,360
like look at these rates man like honestly like you know uh is this all these poor women or is this

1611
01:43:46,360 --> 01:43:52,280
oh man the times have changed like like like how did they get different fonts for each like

1612
01:43:52,280 --> 01:43:57,960
there's like different fonts for every like for some of the letters the fact that it says pussy

1613
01:43:57,960 --> 01:44:05,000
feast on it is hilarious pussy fees it's under the menu my wife why is blowjob under the pussy menu

1614
01:44:06,920 --> 01:44:13,400
that's such a good question james he doesn't very good question it's such a good question yeah okay

1615
01:44:13,400 --> 01:44:19,960
then it starts with blowjob chick planet hello hello chick planet get him on the line get him on the

1616
01:44:19,960 --> 01:44:25,960
line dude and then that flyer the flyer that he gets and like the look on my a rudolf's face as

1617
01:44:25,960 --> 01:44:33,720
she's like yeah here she's like must be rough deal about you gotta do like she says some shit to him

1618
01:44:33,720 --> 01:44:40,360
as she has in this fire and it's like a chick planet flyer and it's got like just tits on it

1619
01:44:40,360 --> 01:44:47,320
it's like all this stuff which is like here it's like here you got some chick drop this off

1620
01:44:47,880 --> 01:44:54,200
hand you and it's like and it's it's got pussy feast written on it as like a promotional thing

1621
01:44:54,200 --> 01:44:58,840
and on the back then it says and like then you get a nice voice over and that's what I was saying

1622
01:44:58,840 --> 01:45:04,600
is I like that chick's voice is like Joanna new zoom in she I call her chick I'm sorry

1623
01:45:04,600 --> 01:45:10,280
sorry now that that's Andy Sandberg's wife and then my rudolf is uh paul thomas and her wife

1624
01:45:10,920 --> 01:45:16,520
she was amazing uh everybody was so good and then she and then Joanna knew some like shows up as

1625
01:45:16,520 --> 01:45:21,960
as well and I think she's you know not a real person she just is like a figment you know of his

1626
01:45:22,600 --> 01:45:28,280
of his like inner conscience or whatever yeah psyche but seeing her in in a movie was so cool

1627
01:45:28,280 --> 01:45:37,640
and seeing the heim girls and uh the heim chicks in uh in licorice pizza oh no oh no

1628
01:45:40,600 --> 01:45:45,960
it's fucking awesome to see the type of people that he surrounds himself with uh it's and then

1629
01:45:45,960 --> 01:45:53,080
finding that talent in in those places um let's uh let's check out some maybe reviews finding talent

1630
01:45:53,080 --> 01:45:58,120
in those places I love finding talent well yeah I mean the Hong Chao thing is is is so cool

1631
01:45:58,120 --> 01:46:04,120
long chao ribs and then seeing hearing him describing the interview was like yeah we have all these

1632
01:46:04,120 --> 01:46:07,640
opportunities like oh it'd be cool like reach out to Anicio see if he's available all the stuff but

1633
01:46:07,640 --> 01:46:14,040
then like oh we have this opportunity to find a young asian woman to fill this role where there's

1634
01:46:14,040 --> 01:46:19,960
so many people out there that amazing it's how he said it was young young asian woman that they

1635
01:46:19,960 --> 01:46:26,360
can't that they auditioned I mean and for them to have that opportunity to be able to highlight a new

1636
01:46:26,360 --> 01:46:32,200
talent must feel pretty cool to be able to that casting process must be pretty exciting I feel

1637
01:46:32,200 --> 01:46:39,480
like yeah yeah in a laundry list of A-list talent to throw she stands out absolutely

1638
01:46:39,480 --> 01:46:45,800
multiple roles to people that are just up and coming or you know I have like just like you're

1639
01:46:45,800 --> 01:46:53,080
doing you're hitting all across the board's good things like uh it it must be fun also for those

1640
01:46:53,080 --> 01:46:59,480
people to you know you're the one person in the room that like hasn't done a lot of film and like

1641
01:46:59,480 --> 01:47:05,320
the people that you're sitting with with just two people have done you know tons and tons of films

1642
01:47:05,320 --> 01:47:13,800
like you're you're giving somebody an easy education to uh you know their next film uh

1643
01:47:13,800 --> 01:47:25,080
uh uh yeah his his style and directing is is so flattering I think like and uh there's

1644
01:47:25,640 --> 01:47:32,200
there's a lot of hope that I see in like the way that he like makes movies and what what he's

1645
01:47:32,200 --> 01:47:37,960
going to do next like every time he makes something I'm hungry for it yeah and see those rough

1646
01:47:37,960 --> 01:47:41,960
around the edges kind of younger actors like Paul Dano and like There Will Be Blood or like all

1647
01:47:41,960 --> 01:47:48,040
like a lot of the boogie nines class is is awesome and to maintain that energy as a as a filmmaker is

1648
01:47:48,840 --> 01:47:55,000
priceless and just can't wait for whenever he comes out with his his next thing um I'm here for

1649
01:47:55,000 --> 01:48:01,080
it always always lining up uh it was a 74 74% by the critics it was a 53% by the audience

1650
01:48:02,040 --> 01:48:08,120
pretty middling but I definitely subscribe to the polarizing um description I feel like in

1651
01:48:08,120 --> 01:48:12,200
in this movie I feel like you you kind of love it or you don't or you like it or you don't what

1652
01:48:12,200 --> 01:48:20,040
do I it is it just people I've discussed this movie it's good description it's uh yeah that seems

1653
01:48:20,040 --> 01:48:25,880
to be more than what the ratings suggest as well Peter Bradshaw from The Guardian gave it a five out

1654
01:48:25,880 --> 01:48:34,520
of five a delirious triumph a stylish squared meeting of creative minds a swirl of hypnosis and

1655
01:48:34,520 --> 01:48:41,320
symbiosis with pensions prose partly assigned to a narrator narrating character and partly

1656
01:48:41,320 --> 01:48:52,440
diversified into funky dialogue exchanges dialogue exchanges hey that's like what we do here

1657
01:48:53,320 --> 01:48:58,600
I don't exhaust this that's what we should have called the podcast I mean that was a lot welcome

1658
01:48:58,600 --> 01:49:11,640
to funky dialogue exchanges are you doing out there folks welcome to funky dialogue exchanges

1659
01:49:13,320 --> 01:49:15,240
I was down at the party one night

1660
01:49:15,240 --> 01:49:25,000
I was doing that he flipped me a coin and it was tails

1661
01:49:30,680 --> 01:49:33,640
he was all right all right all right all right all right

1662
01:49:33,640 --> 01:49:39,000
cool cats funky diet why have you guys been doing this this whole time no you're absolutely right

1663
01:49:39,000 --> 01:49:46,920
okay that was lightning with dynamite and on a fire like guys holy shit

1664
01:49:48,840 --> 01:49:54,040
from Ian Nathan empire magazine the less you try to figure out Anderson's rambling

1665
01:49:54,040 --> 01:50:01,080
mesmerizing mystery the better just relax and let this beautiful haunting hilarious

1666
01:50:01,080 --> 01:50:09,160
chaotic irritating and possibly profound tragic comedy wash over you he didn't mention sexy take

1667
01:50:09,160 --> 01:50:13,560
away this guy's the sorus

1668
01:50:22,840 --> 01:50:25,560
she just took him to town and bodied him right there

1669
01:50:25,560 --> 01:50:30,200
we can always count on Danny reviewing reviewers

1670
01:50:38,520 --> 01:50:43,640
from Katie Kilkenny the Atlantic if the adaptation is a little too faithful to

1671
01:50:43,640 --> 01:50:48,440
sustain a cinematically tight story there's still a lot to admire in the sheer

1672
01:50:48,440 --> 01:50:55,160
uninhibited folly of the whole thing the gall to get groovy while the oscar watchers are on

1673
01:50:55,160 --> 01:50:58,520
high alert yeah baby yeah

1674
01:51:01,000 --> 01:51:02,280
do I make you ready

1675
01:51:05,960 --> 01:51:09,880
yeah that's okay we'll do one more from David Jenkins little white lies I don't know anyone

1676
01:51:09,880 --> 01:51:15,480
that is five out of five as rich and strangers we've come to expect from the late Anderson films

1677
01:51:16,040 --> 01:51:21,960
but doesn't quite achieve the digressive wackadoo mystery of the novel he used the word

1678
01:51:21,960 --> 01:51:28,120
wackadoo okay that was an editorial now he used the word wackadoo I never seen it spelled out like

1679
01:51:28,120 --> 01:51:33,080
that I thought it was fun hey wackadoo and wackadoo wackadoo

1680
01:51:38,600 --> 01:51:44,520
what I did though was he said if you haven't read the novel then you can't really say you can't

1681
01:51:44,520 --> 01:51:50,600
really tell me I'm not wrong I saw quite a few like I would go through the audience reviews here

1682
01:51:50,600 --> 01:51:55,400
which I'm about to get to and I'm sure there's current reviews out there so I saw some long

1683
01:51:56,200 --> 01:52:02,440
negative audience reviews of like he did not get the book right and this is why and it was a whole

1684
01:52:02,440 --> 01:52:07,560
fucking essay about it so there's some of those out there that's always gonna be there if it's

1685
01:52:07,560 --> 01:52:13,800
based on the book for sure yeah there's always gonna be those people from our boss Shroff on

1686
01:52:13,800 --> 01:52:20,520
letterbox like the letterbox reviews are fun give it a half star says thankfully I'm not

1687
01:52:20,520 --> 01:52:26,760
a film bro and hence not one shred of me feels compelled to say anything nice about this

1688
01:52:30,280 --> 01:52:31,880
thank god thank god you're not

1689
01:52:31,880 --> 01:52:50,280
oh geez half a star we're film bros what have we become

1690
01:52:50,280 --> 01:52:58,600
clip it half star from you like movies you're a film bro you

1691
01:53:01,240 --> 01:53:06,360
screw you guys I love how it's like I don't like this movie yeah I love those reviews where it's

1692
01:53:06,360 --> 01:53:09,880
like I don't like this movie and if you do you're an assholes essentially is what that review is

1693
01:53:11,160 --> 01:53:14,680
not only saying that you don't like it but like and if you do like it like fuck you

1694
01:53:14,680 --> 01:53:20,680
that shows a lot about your character in like such a cool way you know so cool like

1695
01:53:21,640 --> 01:53:26,440
I wish I wasn't a film bro it sucks instead of talking about this movie I'm gonna insult people

1696
01:53:26,440 --> 01:53:32,280
that aren't talking about this movie like I'm gonna attack somebody else while

1697
01:53:34,280 --> 01:53:38,840
I'm gonna make this whole thing about me and what I don't like hear me hear me

1698
01:53:38,840 --> 01:53:49,080
hear me hear me stay on my soapbox give it half star uh my half star

1699
01:53:49,080 --> 01:53:55,480
my soapbox my little soapbox look at me I sell letter box letter soapbox

1700
01:53:59,320 --> 01:54:05,320
uh and my says hour 20 minutes into this I still had no idea what was happening everyone

1701
01:54:05,320 --> 01:54:09,720
was mumbling and there were no subtitles I thought Joaquin Phoenix was a shrink and then I thought he

1702
01:54:09,720 --> 01:54:15,960
was a PI then I stopped caring my patience was thin and I gave up also this is the last time

1703
01:54:15,960 --> 01:54:20,440
I'm watching a movie with Joaquin Phoenix in it everything he's been in say for gladiator which

1704
01:54:20,440 --> 01:54:25,880
I loved has been an utter time waster for me I would sooner write a 10,000 word thesis on my

1705
01:54:25,880 --> 01:54:37,480
most hated topic than subject myself to another one of his thims I mean him making bo was afraid

1706
01:54:37,480 --> 01:54:43,160
like that person would we should show that person was afraid recommendation be like let me redeem

1707
01:54:43,160 --> 01:54:48,600
him for you let me let me walk in Phoenix for you man like this will say you know if you I get

1708
01:54:48,600 --> 01:54:52,280
why you didn't like him here but you'll love it can you imagine that person being like okay I made

1709
01:54:52,280 --> 01:54:58,920
it an hour 20 minutes into this movie what's next it's like a lot more a lot more pays off you'll

1710
01:54:58,920 --> 01:55:08,840
see man you're not you're almost halfway you'll get it you'll get it you're almost uh are you

1711
01:55:08,840 --> 01:55:22,920
afraid yeah did you know this movie was made by

1712
01:55:30,840 --> 01:55:36,120
Bridget gave it half star she said I will never understand why y'all like this guy are y'all

1713
01:55:36,120 --> 01:55:41,640
okay I watched this because I told I was told it was similar to the long goodbye and the big

1714
01:55:41,640 --> 01:55:46,920
Lebowski both of which I love but instead I just got two and a half hours of characters nobody cares

1715
01:55:46,920 --> 01:55:53,000
about dumping a bunch of information nobody cares about onto walking Phoenix who was giving a poor

1716
01:55:53,000 --> 01:56:00,840
man's the dude performance and finally from Claire gave it a half star would rather shit my pants in

1717
01:56:00,840 --> 01:56:10,120
front of my whole middle school class geez that girl has weird priorities on my list of things that

1718
01:56:10,120 --> 01:56:16,520
I wouldn't do right that I'm making right now that like how did we ever have to like make that choice

1719
01:56:16,520 --> 01:56:21,880
these are the options yeah like why did she go to that like that's like well it's like that's

1720
01:56:21,880 --> 01:56:27,720
experience yeah she's experienced it yeah that's yeah that's she's like I know what that feels like

1721
01:56:27,720 --> 01:56:34,760
and I'd rather do that again yeah I mean wow that's powerful that's what I'm saying between the two

1722
01:56:34,760 --> 01:56:38,200
things I've experienced which is I've seen in here advice I've shit in front of my real school

1723
01:56:38,200 --> 01:56:44,200
class I'd rather do the latter I'm hearing like does people that leave like really negative reviews

1724
01:56:44,200 --> 01:56:51,720
like I'm just hearing trauma and like I want I wish a big hug like I want to like go that's it yeah

1725
01:56:51,720 --> 01:57:00,200
and that's the advice of negative reviews that's the advice yeah you can't can't can't ensure that

1726
01:57:00,200 --> 01:57:07,000
shit that's the inherent vice of making an rt-40 movie you're gonna get polarized baby

1727
01:57:08,360 --> 01:57:18,680
that's right but but maybe baby get polarized I think we're like are we are we ready to give

1728
01:57:18,680 --> 01:57:24,040
our ratings this stuff give us give us that rating sweet sweet Danny boy yeah give it to us I mean I

1729
01:57:24,040 --> 01:57:28,760
don't mean to rush I was just like no we are at that point it's perfect this is exact that's exactly

1730
01:57:28,760 --> 01:57:32,280
where I was gonna transition you've been on this podcast enough that you're a master now

1731
01:57:32,840 --> 01:57:39,160
yeah you know so yeah I mean I'm just feeling the bottle like let me just let me just yeah if I'm

1732
01:57:39,160 --> 01:57:48,040
going first let me give my piece of like I would say I am a sucker for detective PI fucking movies

1733
01:57:48,040 --> 01:57:56,520
and shit like that and so as far as this one goes putting it against those things in that category

1734
01:57:56,520 --> 01:58:08,600
I really really enjoyed it I think it did a lot of good work to keep you guessing like keep you

1735
01:58:09,320 --> 01:58:16,520
engaged in all of the stories and plotlines while also doing like incredible character studies on

1736
01:58:16,520 --> 01:58:27,960
all these different random pieces to this puzzle I think it was you know a fun intricate experience

1737
01:58:27,960 --> 01:58:34,600
to have the watch of rewatchability of it like I didn't recognize until I went to watch it again

1738
01:58:34,600 --> 01:58:41,160
for the podcast and starting to rewatch again I was like man this is a blast like it is a fun

1739
01:58:41,160 --> 01:58:49,080
fun ride there's not a moment that I'm not interested in so many different ways of the plot

1740
01:58:49,080 --> 01:58:55,160
of the people what they're saying also how it is shot how it is filmed like you can put it on mute

1741
01:58:55,160 --> 01:59:04,680
and enjoy the movie yeah you know it's enough too yeah but uh you could not even watch it

1742
01:59:04,680 --> 01:59:11,400
listen to Johnny green soundtrack tune be okay too I've done everything you know I could go I could

1743
01:59:11,400 --> 01:59:18,680
go on and on about it because like I love the cast I love uh how he made this and like you know I

1744
01:59:18,680 --> 01:59:27,400
he I think is up there and high in the list of directors that you know I can you know always

1745
01:59:27,400 --> 01:59:36,440
trust to hit it on the park so it's part of our eyes I would put this very high um you know what

1746
01:59:36,440 --> 01:59:48,840
breaks my heart is very break your heart just how I broke the scale with malignant uh because

1747
01:59:48,840 --> 01:59:54,120
like it's your own scale what are you what are you so you have to rate it out of zero to 140 I

1748
01:59:54,120 --> 02:00:00,280
think it was what are you doing well I like it better than the movement oh no we're going to 150

1749
02:00:01,160 --> 02:00:07,480
geez what's gonna happen well like I don't know guys because I like it better a lot better than

1750
02:00:07,480 --> 02:00:15,960
you dug yourself into this hole this is the burden you have to bear okay okay so I am going to

1751
02:00:15,960 --> 02:00:25,480
propose like I'm gonna break my scale off it's like uh and like one scale that is the ironic scale

1752
02:00:26,760 --> 02:00:34,840
whoa okay okay okay and then one scale that is serious film and that is still zero to 100

1753
02:00:35,880 --> 02:00:41,880
putting like like filmmakers that I put into like the top tier of like you know this is

1754
02:00:41,880 --> 02:00:47,240
you know good quality do you want ironic scale or do you want just like malignant scale like just

1755
02:00:47,240 --> 02:00:53,560
just for me like man full malignant and then maybe there will be another movie similar to malignant

1756
02:00:53,560 --> 02:01:01,160
you can break it again yeah I hate to do this he's got two scales he's got two scales I get it I'm

1757
02:01:01,160 --> 02:01:05,560
a man with two scales I get it I'm just saying that like I want to go back to the zero to 100

1758
02:01:05,560 --> 02:01:12,760
thing that's fine it's appropriate it's fine we respect that we respect this I will wait okay

1759
02:01:12,760 --> 02:01:18,680
wait so before you give your score if we're gonna go back to the scale should we get malignant on

1760
02:01:18,680 --> 02:01:23,960
that one what would you get malignant actually right now what would you give malignant he's giving

1761
02:01:23,960 --> 02:01:32,920
you a big opportunity here a 91 nice okay okay we're absolved your sins are given

1762
02:01:32,920 --> 02:01:41,720
you're saying yep and then this I would give like a 97 damn we just yeah re broke the scale you broke

1763
02:01:41,720 --> 02:01:49,880
it then broke it again hell yeah you broke it to fix it yeah had to do it I love it that that is a

1764
02:01:49,880 --> 02:01:55,080
healthy hardy good score and I think 91 is also a healthy hardy good score for malignant

1765
02:01:55,080 --> 02:02:03,320
yes that's that's extremely fair for how excited and much I loved it but this shows what I needed

1766
02:02:03,320 --> 02:02:09,000
to give malignant in the first place as far as like you know what am I doing this gets a what

1767
02:02:09,000 --> 02:02:17,160
I say for this 97 yeah yeah that's appropriate I want to give you know but and also but there is

1768
02:02:17,160 --> 02:02:22,600
probably very few very few movies he's made and I haven't seen all this stuff but like very few that

1769
02:02:22,600 --> 02:02:28,360
I would probably go lower than that 97 for yeah straight up I appreciate it man because I just

1770
02:02:29,400 --> 02:02:38,600
what I would what makes me happy like he does does good film yeah and so I'm hanging on is every

1771
02:02:38,600 --> 02:02:46,280
word and James that's mine let me pass the ball yeah no I appreciate yeah I can take it from you

1772
02:02:46,280 --> 02:02:51,240
I appreciate the retroactive because I do I've done it a couple times and I still feel like I

1773
02:02:51,240 --> 02:02:55,880
could do that to other movies we've covered in the past been healthy exercise really excited

1774
02:02:55,880 --> 02:03:01,720
forcing myself dude I again I get it I just gave 100 to the fountain last week you know

1775
02:03:01,720 --> 02:03:06,280
and I still I'm thinking like it's fine though because I that's how I feel that's my heart is

1776
02:03:06,280 --> 02:03:12,440
full when I watch that movie my heart fills up to 100 so what I got 15 minutes and I'm trying to

1777
02:03:12,440 --> 02:03:16,680
listen to your episode about because Brandon told me guys did that and I was like dude I love that

1778
02:03:16,680 --> 02:03:24,120
movie and he he explained your two oppositions in reviews of it and I was like now I gotta listen to

1779
02:03:24,120 --> 02:03:33,320
it I that movie like I fucking really enjoyed too I need to read the book because like I

1780
02:03:36,920 --> 02:03:43,080
but I was excited to hear in that that makes me excited to hear you say that yeah my conquistador

1781
02:03:43,080 --> 02:03:53,400
yeah yeah yeah yeah I love it all I conquist it all yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah

1782
02:03:53,400 --> 02:03:58,600
what was that what was that nap expression again when is the when it's not just express

1783
02:03:58,600 --> 02:04:09,560
it's a nap but also I'm gonna use it for taking an actual nap because it's great

1784
02:04:09,560 --> 02:04:15,000
it's great the horizontal express

1785
02:04:22,760 --> 02:04:23,480
your blanket

1786
02:04:27,640 --> 02:04:33,240
oh man it feels the movie about the polar express is the nap express about getting a nice good

1787
02:04:33,240 --> 02:04:40,280
Tom Hanks gives you the blanket which one which Tom Hanks there's a bunch of them yeah

1788
02:04:41,240 --> 02:04:47,080
it's fun it's I had a lot of fun with this movie this movie was great um and it just gets better

1789
02:04:47,080 --> 02:04:52,760
and better each time I watch it like it's it's hard almost even to be even sure about yeah like my

1790
02:04:52,760 --> 02:04:58,520
my score now as well because I know that it's gonna be one of those beautiful things that I think is

1791
02:04:58,520 --> 02:05:06,200
gonna change um each time I watch it it is strangely rewatchable it is a lot to fill in one setting

1792
02:05:06,200 --> 02:05:11,400
and you and you really gotta yeah you gotta you gotta really lock in and and it's not difficult

1793
02:05:11,400 --> 02:05:17,560
because he he makes it so aesthetically pleasing and the music and all that acting like top to bottom

1794
02:05:17,560 --> 02:05:27,000
as far as movies go this just like checks a lot of boxes uh for me and um I I've I've learned to

1795
02:05:27,000 --> 02:05:34,040
just shed a layer off of the plot a little bit each time uh and and find little new things about it

1796
02:05:34,040 --> 02:05:41,480
and I continue I will continue to do that and then even in my rankings of of PTA movies as I said

1797
02:05:41,480 --> 02:05:47,480
it's like maybe mid mid to bottom it's like I can't put any of these movies I feel like below 90

1798
02:05:48,120 --> 02:05:53,800
so it's it's gonna be at least that so I I'll do a 92 I'll do I'll do a 92 that feels good and

1799
02:05:53,800 --> 02:06:00,440
because I just think 90 wait are you saying 92 like 92 or 92 percent yeah okay

1800
02:06:02,360 --> 02:06:11,160
in case you were saying 90 as well oh 90 yeah oh gotcha I got you 90 92 percent is is my score for

1801
02:06:12,200 --> 02:06:17,560
inherent vice it's uh it's an excellent movie and it can even grow even from a 92 and in my

1802
02:06:17,560 --> 02:06:23,560
scene it could grow up the PTA ranks of his movies I enjoyed a lot a lot this time um

1803
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and the this the the time I watched it before this time I remember just it was like a hungover

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like lazy weekend day and and yeah just a little wake and bake and threw this on and we didn't

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mention that they play the entirety of of the of the can song um the entirety of it for that for a

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lot of of exposition a lot of shit going on and it fucking gets you going into this movie and when

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that shit starts going I'm like I'm like locked in so I was I think I was eating a breakfast

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burrito ripping a joint you know it's seen doctor and then can starts playing um and then Kara comes

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out of the bedroom like I'm too tired to pay attention but it sounds really cool and I just

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want to be out here and it just is a fucking cool movie and that and that they that's a long song

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they played all the way through and if that doesn't by the end of that can song if you're not in

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that it might not be for you yeah thank you for okay so I just first why am I not remembering

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the name of the song that's fucked up but it's vitamin vitamin c vitamin c yes um I just want

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to say thank you james for making room for in this podcast for that song because hell yeah that song

1815
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to me is one of the most important songs ever like I that song came out in 1972 that blows my mind

1816
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every single time I hear this song because it is literally a song that sounds so contemporary

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this day listening to it again before I entered into this podcast like I love love love love love

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love that song it is one of the coolest songs you could ever hear in your life everybody

1819
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go listen to that song again um last loudest isn't it to the names to the band again vitamin c by

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can c can big a big bendasi whatever that out that whole album is fucking amazing and they have

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02:08:28,760 --> 02:08:33,720
multiple amazing albums taco mago and different singers and and one of the singers just died

1822
02:08:33,720 --> 02:08:39,240
recently as well our rip but he I think he like came up with like his own language for some some

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of the music and stuff too and it's just it's psychedelic trippy fucking jam jam out freak

1824
02:08:45,800 --> 02:08:53,000
out sort of music that is perfect for this movie yeah it is um there's a lot of things about this

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movie that I really really enjoy and fundamentally the marrying of a new war which I have such a

1826
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strong connection to because like growing up that was the thing my dad was really into was

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chinatown was his favorite movie um and that is such a like we've said multiple times uh

1828
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through the course of this discussion is that a new war movie is so great like it's a thing that you

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really want and it's a kickback like it's a you know a particular type of burn

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particular type of like telling a story that is so fucking enjoyable and the marrying of that with a

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modern postmodern really approach to chinatown is so wonderful because it highlights a lot of

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the issues on both sides of the culture and no one like no one is really coming out of this

1833
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unscathed and a big issue is we're hurting each other and that's a problem and the way

1834
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that we're treating people and commodifying people as a problem and it has some really great

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points about you know like the fact that dog doesn't change throughout the whole thing is

1836
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also in my mind propping up the idea of his type of thinking is the right way to think about things

1837
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and that's why it's unchanging because if anything he's affecting everybody else to just like

1838
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I don't know think differently or maybe not think differently but in their response to him

1839
02:10:43,800 --> 02:10:49,640
they change a little bit and provide some more context to another way of thinking about things

1840
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and this movie was wonderful I really fucking enjoyed the shit out of this I would put this

1841
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movie I'm gonna do it 94% is how I'm feeling on this bad boy. Oh yeah wow. This is an idea this is

1842
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one of those special apps where it is a very artistic movie that is almost above my pay grade

1843
02:11:14,520 --> 02:11:19,800
I think at sometimes to to feel like I fully grasp everything that's going on but also the beauty of

1844
02:11:19,800 --> 02:11:25,800
it is you're not meant to grasp everything all at once you're meant to get something a little

1845
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different each time and this is just one of those times that that we saw and we in three people got

1846
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together and talked about some of some of our favorite parts and I think there's going to be

1847
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big moments like him looking at the picture and the motopan to pankeku sort of stuff that's going

1848
02:11:40,040 --> 02:11:45,800
to kind of that's going to hit everybody and so it's just like to have that the dumb silly humor

1849
02:11:46,440 --> 02:11:51,320
of walking fiend is getting knocked out by cops and stuff and then the cops being at the pool party

1850
02:11:51,960 --> 02:11:58,280
very obvious funny humor and then just so much depth as well and I feel like we could talk another

1851
02:11:58,280 --> 02:12:03,320
you know five hours about it and find find more things to bring out a whole podcast about this

1852
02:12:03,320 --> 02:12:11,160
movie. It also that being said that we gave such high marks it like you know sorry if I go off on

1853
02:12:11,160 --> 02:12:22,200
you know some of these like small like star critics but man it blows my mind like I just like

1854
02:12:22,200 --> 02:12:26,760
you know we all we all think highly of certain directors and stuff and it's like you know for

1855
02:12:26,760 --> 02:12:35,160
so many people to kind of like not have the patience I guess or not like under not have the like uh like

1856
02:12:37,160 --> 02:12:45,800
level of like uh depth to like see the at least somewhat enjoyable parts of this movie. You know

1857
02:12:45,800 --> 02:12:54,520
it's okay like this is not for you but there is something I think in so many ways so many different

1858
02:12:54,520 --> 02:12:59,800
levels of enjoyment to this movie that if you don't like this thing it's interesting is it not like

1859
02:12:59,800 --> 02:13:05,640
at a fun level like yeah create some level interest in just like there's some you're like there's

1860
02:13:05,640 --> 02:13:11,720
there's a concept I'm trying to solve here but if there's parts of it that are not for you that's

1861
02:13:11,720 --> 02:13:18,760
understandable but also the way that it's executed the way that it's done and and and all the people

1862
02:13:18,760 --> 02:13:26,040
that are showing it to you are enjoyable enough that there's something to take away so uh you know

1863
02:13:26,040 --> 02:13:32,680
I uh if the critics thought highly of this and the public didn't as far as like you know just to

1864
02:13:33,240 --> 02:13:38,760
look at it in the polarizing sense I I feel weird sometimes agreeing with the critics

1865
02:13:39,400 --> 02:13:44,440
because I usually like to like feel like I'm you're the man of the people you're a rabble rouser

1866
02:13:44,440 --> 02:13:53,560
you're a rouser you're a rapscallion you're a freedom fighter but but also I will say like

1867
02:13:53,560 --> 02:13:58,920
you know if we go back I'd be curious to see how many times I've probably got far back Danny are we

1868
02:13:58,920 --> 02:14:04,440
going just all the episodes we've done Indiana Jones and the kingdom of the crystal skull how

1869
02:14:04,440 --> 02:14:10,520
many times have I voted with the critics versus the audience oh I question ourselves a lot too I

1870
02:14:10,520 --> 02:14:14,600
feel like we go a little bit more critics but there's a lot of times to her like those critics are

1871
02:14:14,600 --> 02:14:21,800
up their own tushy butts they need to chill out yeah I mean also it depends on what year of film

1872
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you're looking at because I think in later years I probably do disagree with the general public

1873
02:14:27,960 --> 02:14:35,240
versus the critics and this is like a more recent film 2014 is when it was made right

1874
02:14:35,240 --> 02:14:46,120
uh yeah but uh 2015 sorry so like a more recent film though I will say I probably start to lean

1875
02:14:46,120 --> 02:14:55,720
more towards the critics because I think after 2000s there's a little bit of a split of like what

1876
02:14:56,680 --> 02:15:04,360
everybody else wants to see and I think also like the film going public changes to a little bit more

1877
02:15:04,360 --> 02:15:11,080
an inclusive audience uh suddenly younger people are able to weigh their voice in on how they feel

1878
02:15:11,080 --> 02:15:20,280
about movies and just and and also old older old old people can weigh in on how they feel about

1879
02:15:20,280 --> 02:15:27,720
movies I don't think I would like this movie which exactly so then that would be why the audience

1880
02:15:28,360 --> 02:15:32,760
score starts to get lower is they're like you know I don't want to watch it some guy smoke

1881
02:15:32,760 --> 02:15:40,680
weed and walk around and talk to maybe some prostitutes I mean they're it's it's fun people

1882
02:15:40,680 --> 02:15:45,960
that didn't like it did not get get get it at all it's it's yeah it's kind of for myself and

1883
02:15:45,960 --> 02:15:50,680
they're shoes and I can't I think that's like a lot in our podcast it's like it's fine if you

1884
02:15:50,680 --> 02:15:54,840
don't like it and everything but to find these extreme examples of opinions has been kind of

1885
02:15:54,840 --> 02:15:58,280
interesting of like these are the people that and even the people that really love it sometimes

1886
02:15:58,280 --> 02:16:02,200
we're like okay calm down and the people I hate are like okay you will too much like we're a lot

1887
02:16:02,200 --> 02:16:06,600
of times in the middle you know a lot of times we just like we could we try to like just be the

1888
02:16:06,600 --> 02:16:12,040
disc figure out the discourse of it all well that's why I really sometimes or somewhere a little bit

1889
02:16:12,040 --> 02:16:17,160
something that worries me sometimes and I catch myself where I end up being like these people

1890
02:16:17,160 --> 02:16:21,720
that I just preached about like oh why do you hate on people who liked it or hate on people who

1891
02:16:21,720 --> 02:16:29,400
hated when you do is you know where I get concerned a little bit about like people understanding

1892
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media a little bit and being able to take it in properly is when right is when poor things came

1893
02:16:37,000 --> 02:16:41,560
out and I get it like you don't like poor things that's fine but people are coming out these like

1894
02:16:41,560 --> 02:16:48,280
really like this movie is fucking like I'm sure terrible in other ways that aren't just a bad

1895
02:16:48,280 --> 02:16:53,640
movie they're like bringing it down for society for other reasons and I'm like oh I'm sure this

1896
02:16:53,640 --> 02:17:00,200
like this bums me out that people that people are finding this in such a obviously like not

1897
02:17:00,200 --> 02:17:05,240
everyone's supposed is gonna like that movie or enjoy it maybe but I loved it and I thought it was

1898
02:17:05,240 --> 02:17:11,400
hilarious and it was a great movie but the discourse over that was like people don't even

1899
02:17:11,400 --> 02:17:15,880
understand how to digest media properly is where I start to get a little concerned of like

1900
02:17:16,440 --> 02:17:21,160
something like inherent bias is like we could I could put it on mute and walk by it and be like

1901
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that is a beautiful image and I appreciate it three stars at least like I fuck to give it a half a

1902
02:17:26,120 --> 02:17:30,760
star is like how do you how do you see all the all the beautiful things happening in this and just

1903
02:17:30,760 --> 02:17:35,720
like write it off like that I agree is upsetting a little bit but then I carry on my day and you

1904
02:17:35,720 --> 02:17:41,080
know try not to write a review about fuck all you guys you just don't get it oh you feel gross

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02:17:41,800 --> 02:17:45,720
that's right I want to get uh I want to get on letterbox brand was talking to me about that and

1906
02:17:45,720 --> 02:17:50,520
like it's fun it's nice to make lists of movies you want to see too well and I also think like

1907
02:17:50,520 --> 02:17:56,600
uh voices about I think a lot of people that are like just rational normal like conscious human

1908
02:17:56,600 --> 02:18:00,760
beings don't always like aren't always sitting there making reviews and comments about movies so

1909
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then like yeah like the loudest voices get the most you know takes and so then like yeah we we see

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you know people who have all day long to be psychos online like we can get like spotlight but

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02:18:14,200 --> 02:18:19,640
like I think there's a lot of people who you know have a chill it's fun and that's why I want to

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02:18:19,640 --> 02:18:25,000
check out letterbox because like that's where I uh if there's more fun than rotten tomatoes kind of

1913
02:18:25,000 --> 02:18:30,920
but you know but if there's a medium where there's like poignant and good conversation and people

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02:18:30,920 --> 02:18:37,480
that gravitate towards that that would be nice and I think the more building of something like that

1915
02:18:37,480 --> 02:18:44,200
sounds like I need to get behind that I'm into it would be your letterbox review of this movie so

1916
02:18:44,200 --> 02:18:52,440
like one sentence essentially my one sense review you need it too if you need it a review of it try

1917
02:18:52,440 --> 02:19:02,040
to do it in one yeah do it one a one sentence review a one or a one off you know what I

1918
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I did a with it so are these reviews right I read it it's a review and not a summary right one sentence

1919
02:19:13,640 --> 02:19:19,960
one sentence Danny this movie how does it yeah what do you what do you take too long I'm gonna drop

1920
02:19:19,960 --> 02:19:37,880
to one word a pleasurable stroll through a confusing time while describing what

1921
02:19:40,040 --> 02:19:46,520
how about a pleasure you had it you had it yeah but I mean I gave it through a troubling time that's

1922
02:19:46,520 --> 02:19:56,440
good uh pleasuring yeah it is good but probably time while uh depicted with good characters

1923
02:19:57,480 --> 02:20:09,960
from a film noir that could be uh watched again okay that's maybe a sentence and also like the

1924
02:20:09,960 --> 02:20:16,680
sense that should describe that movie because that movie just deserves a run-on sentence I was gonna say

1925
02:20:16,680 --> 02:20:28,920
I was like get out of my mind abomination this was a fucking blast gentlemen thank you for having

1926
02:20:28,920 --> 02:20:34,600
me just want to yeah go through all of Paul Thomas Anderson's movies and just talk about those just

1927
02:20:34,600 --> 02:20:39,080
just to do it um if there's gonna be a polarizing one I guess this is the one that he would that

1928
02:20:39,080 --> 02:20:45,160
would be for him because I think all his other ones are just rated well um but this is this has been a

1929
02:20:45,160 --> 02:20:51,640
true pledge and I think Danny thank you most of all for joining us the pod father for gracing us

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with your presence on this the day of your daughter's wedding uh I asked you one favor but to join us

1931
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uh another time please and none none taken thank you so much like I I I I many many many many thanks and

1932
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and and before we take that Buenos Notos Express let's uh go into our reveal our next movie uh

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we're taking a little side step a brolin side step a little uh a little auteur auteur side

1934
02:21:32,280 --> 02:21:40,600
step these are the auteurs of our era I would say is a is a somewhat maligned movie of an auteur's

1935
02:21:42,440 --> 02:21:52,600
filmography rather than a pta these are uh Joel and Ethan Cohen doing a uh 2016 what is the genre

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02:21:52,600 --> 02:21:57,000
what would you call this a comedy it's just described as a comedy on Ron Tomatoes Hale

1937
02:21:57,000 --> 02:22:03,640
Caesar Hale Commissar exclamation point in the early 1950s Eddie Manix is busy at work trying to

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02:22:03,640 --> 02:22:08,680
solve all the problems of the actors and filmmakers at Capital Pictures his latest assignments involve

1939
02:22:08,680 --> 02:22:14,840
a disgruntled director a singing cowboy a beautiful swimmer and a handsome dancer as if all this wasn't

1940
02:22:14,840 --> 02:22:20,120
enough Manix faces his biggest challenge when Baird Whitlock another funny name gets kidnapped

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02:22:20,120 --> 02:22:24,600
while in costume for the swords and sandals epic Hale Caesar if the studio doesn't pay a hundred

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02:22:24,600 --> 02:22:30,920
thousand dollars it is the end of the line for the movie star 86 certified fresh by the critics

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02:22:31,560 --> 02:22:38,600
44% poopy doopie snoopy by the audience we're getting a get into it it's got a big cast like this

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02:22:38,600 --> 02:22:47,240
movie and um pumped I am pumped and uh filled with life from this discussion uh thanks to you

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fine gentleman and appreciate fully pumped right now appreciate you guys cheers cheers to you one

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final cheers before the bonus note just express I gotta get one more and it's just too good I'm

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it's gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna abuse it I'm gonna abuse it mm-hmm yeah and if you'd like to see us

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1950
02:23:18,760 --> 02:23:26,680
real for real for us real for real would be to put a little uh star uh rating there and maybe

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a little blurb would be ooh would be awesome and uh yeah we love you all and we'll see you next

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