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Welcome to the podcast.

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Hey, how's it going?

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I hope you're doing well out there.

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This is getting recorded on Halloween.

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So happy spooky day.

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And this is going to be your last and not our last, like, totally

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spooky movie, but to celebrate, we're doing a spooky-ish movie.

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Welcome to the pod.

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This polarized pond.

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This is a podcast about polarizing movies in the sense of rotten

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tomato scores, sometimes critics love it and audiences hate it,

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which is the case in this movie.

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Or vice versa is also what we talk about on this podcast.

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Those are the types of movies.

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I, the one speaking to you is one of your hosts.

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My name's Brandon.

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Hey, how's it going?

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And at this point, I would like to introduce this isn't just a one

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hander.

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This is a two hander.

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And I'm going to introduce that co-host.

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Sometimes we refer to him as the forever guest.

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His name is James Lindsay.

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Hey, it's all hands on deck.

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It's a two hand, two hander.

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We're each one of us using one hand each because we can do this

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with at least one hand tied behind each one of our backs, but

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then we need two of us and it's going to be a two hander.

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And I'm the co-host, co-captain forever guest here to talk about

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the movies.

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We're talking about.

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I like the movie movies.

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I like the movies.

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I like the movies.

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I like the movies.

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So this is the kind of dynamic you can expect for the rest of

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this episode and for all the other episodes, go check them in.

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Hey, welcome in.

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Come on in.

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It's fucking Halloween.

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Can you believe it?

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It's Halloween.

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We're telling you what day it is on this one.

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We don't do that every time we're letting you know.

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We don't.

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Yes.

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We're letting you in on how the sauce is made.

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We could be trick or treating right now, but there's an alien.

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What is it?

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We saw little crescent circles outside our each of our respective

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homes and now we're bunkered in.

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The bunker Dan aliens are a classic case of bunker Dan aliens

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are just looking boiling water.

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Start boiling some water, you know, make sure you turn off

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anything that's going to make noise.

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Yeah, I mean, I haven't had it.

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Nativity.

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I was going to say unplug your town diorama you have set up

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in your living room diorama.

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Yeah, you're doing your little city building in your house

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all by yourself.

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So I forgot to say, hey, Mr.

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Co host forgot to say might be we're doing the movie.

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No one will save you.

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This is 82% critics.

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56 stinky audience.

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Pew Pew Stinky stinky Pew Pew audience of 56.

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This is movie that came out this year.

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It stars Caitlyn Bieber and that's about it from our previous

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entry.

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Dear Evan Hansen, your Evan Hansen, which I don't think we

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really I'm trying to remember why I was watching this because

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I mean, she makes this movie, right?

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I mean, there's a lot to say about this movie, but her

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performance is not one of them.

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Only good things only good thing.

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My good fellow.

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My dear fellow movie lover.

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Let us recline and discuss film.

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Let us recline and discuss film.

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And so that's the movie we're doing.

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So two questions I have for you, Mr.

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one is what is your favorite Halloween candy?

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Oh, so what I like?

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And then I got question number two is what do you watch it?

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That's out of this.

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What are you watching?

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So go in my bag, the thing that I'd be the most excited to

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get would be one of two things.

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It would be a singular Reese's.

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I like when it's just a singular little Reese's cup and

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that's usually done on Halloween is they'll just you'll get

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the big bag and then you don't have to plow.

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but those tend to be more chocolate to peanut butter ratio.

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Those like kind of Reese's minis and my Reese's minis.

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But the regular just flat saucer shape.

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would you would go up and get your mind probed in and about

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A better person.

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And then I've always fucking just love Snickers, whatever

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size you want, baby.

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I just love those little minis are pretty great there too.

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What would say you're kind of a Snickers slut by the sounds of

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houses was trick or treat.

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Snickers.

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Here I'm a little Snickers slut.

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Hit it over.

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And how old were you when you were doing last year?

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I'm skipping I'm skipping this year, but I was doing.

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Maybe after this report, I can get some Snickers walking around

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this on this street.

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The dark streets in Halloween just selling myself for Snickers.

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That's also catch James later tonight.

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That's a peak.

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That's a peak behind the curtain.

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But I hope whatever sins that are in my past, should I be

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summoned into the skies by aliens that they would absolve me of

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my sins and send me back to hang out with them for the rest

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of my days is as one would hope.

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So that's answer number one wins in this in this.

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I want to hear what you're watching, but to that point,

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it's like, so everybody wins in in this movie, right?

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Everybody kind of comes out at the on top into Wanda vision,

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Wanda vision sort of way.

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If you I don't know if you've been like it just seemed I mean,

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all the people with those fucking things in their throat

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already jumping into this, but the things when they're

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throw it's I guess I don't know how they feel about it,

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but the Paris site that's inside of them makes them look happy

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and and like to dance.

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They love to love it.

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The aliens love to dance.

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They came up this way to take part in our customs.

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Yes, we should accept them.

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Well, one of my watching though, I'm trying to think

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what you want because it's just been a lot of been loving

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just watching movies for this podcast and making that such

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an event of my of my week has always been great.

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And trying to get into some scary video game playing,

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I guess when doing the Resident Evil 8.

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I know that's not watching, but it feels so cinematic

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and it feels like a scary sort of thing that I'm partaking

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in for the for the season.

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I have been doing the Finchman second great game.

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Love it a lot.

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Would highly recommend so far.

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That's what I was thinking about.

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because it is really a return to form and it is such a

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owed to the classic Resident Evil experience.

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inspiration like 70s horror sort of stuff.

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That's just very fantastical and has a whole like combination

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of all these fantastical monsters.

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And I'd still extremely scary at parts for me.

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I just encountered a there's a monster baby that you experience

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at one point and that scared the shit out of me.

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Oh, you did that whole thing.

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Man, isn't that really terrifying?

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I think I was why you were streaming it and now and I watched

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you experience that part and almost made me just not want

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to play the game because it's but when I was approaching

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that part, I was a little prepared at least, but it's still

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fucking is very scary.

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But yes, highly recommend all of those games.

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We've talked about going through those.

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I think last year we did.

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Yeah, Resident Evil movie.

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I'm such a history with those games and I'm looking forward

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to doing our e4 next.

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I've just been going through a lot.

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It's wonderful, man.

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It's really, really wonderful.

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It's very similar in a lot of ways to the eight that you're

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playing where it is much more fantastical and much more of

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an adventure, but it can use to be pretty.

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Yeah, castles and stuff.

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European, right?

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Yeah, that was the next thing you're going to say.

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We finish each other's European.

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But yeah, a lot of David Fincher movies.

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We love the blank check guys.

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And been going through those and then I went and saw the killer

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in theaters to took myself out on a little little solo venture

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and saw that had a great time.

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that movie as well.

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Yeah, what do you really fun?

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Revisiting the finchees.

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Yeah, I also want to hear your handy choice.

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Candy choice, twix and my what I what I've been watching is I

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just had a after last record, my night consisted of watching

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Silence of the Lambs back to back with Fargo.

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I almost thought you're going to say like Red Dragon or Hannibal

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or something.

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You're going to like go straight through the trilogy.

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Fargo.

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Fargo's both of them amazing movies and kind of some of

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kind of similar in a lot of ways.

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Very similar in a lot of ways and also because I've been

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watching so much horror like straight kind of straightforward

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horror that both of those movies are kind of horror movies,

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but in a different way.

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Yeah, way more sounds of the Lambs, but there's definitely

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horrific elements like a guy going through a woodchipper isn't

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exactly something that's in, you know, most like thrillers

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and mystery movies, but to build up to that really, yeah,

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to to shit the the nature of of what's really going on in

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that movie near the end.

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Love it.

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And I fucking yeah, just the best William H Macy performance

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for me is is in that movie and that's probably not a hot

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take or anything.

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He's got he's got plenty of good performances, but the

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Linda guard or right isn't that a thing?

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Yeah, yeah, all that stuff and with his father in law.

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No deal. No deal.

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Great.

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You fit that in with these guys.

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I'm telling you.

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We're working on our on our Macy's over here just trying to

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handle this.

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Steve.

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I trust you.

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You got to trust me.

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Amazing.

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I just have such a connection with that movie to because my

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mom's from Minnesota and I have a lot of family members that

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kind of talk like that.

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Corpse.

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So so silly.

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It's such a silly like lyrical almost way of speaking that

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is wild.

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I love such a fun combination of that with the the horrific

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yeah elements of that movie with all the sing song me nice

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polite people that are going through it and then yeah.

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Francis McDormand in that it's amazing.

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I love her husband too.

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That whole scene.

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Yeah, you gotta eat breakfast.

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Marge you gotta eat breakfast.

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Marge got to eat breakfast.

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You gotta eat breakfast and then it just is this really cool

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shot of like them at the table.

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She has to leave.

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He's scoots her plate to him starts eating it.

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She goes out to the car has to come back and it's just so

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early and what's his thing at the end like because she goes

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through her whole experience and they just have such a lovely

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respectful like that painting competition.

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She like asked him about that.

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He's like oh yeah, I did pretty good.

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I got whatever second place and she's like so excited for him

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and really and she's and he's so like supportive of her and

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and everything that she's doing but it's also treated very

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and it's so so comfort and and the chemistry is very much

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familial and yeah obviously her being but having that maternal

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sort of energy is such a such an interesting aspect of that

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that movie was meant to watch the show but yeah, but yeah,

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I don't know so much too much to watch like movies here a lot.

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You know, we're big movie guys.

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We're being moved guys.

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So speaking of movies.

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No one will save you had.

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How did you hear about this movie?

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Did you like peruse it on who?

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So as as I've already disclosed, I am on this big horror movie

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kick num num num num num num num num num all of it and I was

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so been watching horror movies frequently on Hulu.

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They make a lot of them.

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They have like every every is on there.

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Louie they have a Hulu in every every year where they have

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a baby like produce and make a bunch of content for every

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Halloween.

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They absolutely do because that's the business that they're

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in is producing content and some of it kind of feels like

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fodder, which this movie feels a little bit like that to me.

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I there's clearly a budget.

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Clearly a budget to answer your question though.

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Yes, I saw it as a featured Hulu only on Hulu and I'm in

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advertising.

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I love Scaluse's tell me what you know, give me some of that

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Scaluse's and so I was interested in watching something

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that is a Hulu produced movie because these they've made some

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good companies are becoming movie production houses and I

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think it is always interesting to talk about them, you know

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about the movies that they make and what they're doing.

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Well, the first time in theaters the last time when I saw

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the killer was the first time I saw the Netflix logo come up

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in a theater.

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Yeah, in a theater before the movie and that was interesting.

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Ever seen that before and it has its own special look to it.

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Totally.

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Yeah.

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And there's yeah, the thing is, is that it's exciting to see

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new production houses come onto the scene if they're making

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good movies, making them ethically, all of that stuff.

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But yeah, it's just it's really interesting to talk about

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an application in a streaming service.

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Getting into the content business because that speaks at

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large what that whole industry is doing.

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Like you said, seeing a movie that is a Netflix movie in a

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theater, I think this movie would have benefited from being

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in a theater and I did have like a select release or something

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like that, but it just went.

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Yeah, by the came and went very quickly came out September

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22nd, I guess, or like a month before Halloween proper.

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I don't know if that hurt or helped it, but I'm sure it

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had some buzz when it first dropped and people discovered

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what the movie actually was and we're going to get into later

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on in the show, of course, reviews and everything in

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people's reactions.

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And that's honestly why we're here today at polarized pad

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is because people came down on one side or the other very

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strongly and they had a had a reaction to this.

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But for the most part to talk about like, you know, yeah,

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Netflix and all these streaming services making their own

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movies.

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Yeah, Hulu is very hit or miss for me and maybe that that you

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can speak broadly about a lot of streaming services and their

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success on on producing their own content because a lot of

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times they do want to make it for a smaller budget and hope

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that it hits big in a way that, you know, they can.

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Yeah, make a lot for for very little and it's it's kind of

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nice, especially with horror movies, and especially with

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the Hulu wean thing.

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But in Hulu's case, it is kind of refreshing sometimes for

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better or worse, even if it is not the best movie is like,

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oh, they do, you know, they make these horror movies, but

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they also make like these low to mid budget comedies that you

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don't really get much of and Netflix occasionally does it

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too and they do a lot of stand up, of course.

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You're so right about Hulu being a good front runner of that

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because like Palm Springs was really great and funny.

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Definitely that one was really good and then I don't know

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for whatever it's worth.

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I thought vacation friends was pretty funny and then they made

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a second one.

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I haven't seen.

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I have seen the second one.

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It's pretty good.

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Cool.

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Yeah, there's there's like a energy and energy of those

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movies that it's like, Hey, this reminds me of like a comedy

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from early 2000s or 90s or something like that where maybe

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it's a little stupid or or silly and that sort of way, but

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it's it's you can and you can kind of read the budget a little

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bit too like vacation friends.

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They went to a nice hotel and they filmed it all at this nice

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hotel and it's really not that many locations and with this

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one, it's like that's going to it kind of bumps it up a little

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bit for me to see the creative prowess to use a small amount

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of resources to be able to create a story.

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But then it all you know, it hurts it another way is we'll

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get into specifically with with this movie.

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But within the bloom housing as well, I know that that is just

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something that is extremely popular now too.

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In terms of horror movies of if you can construct a script

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that really revolves the whole story around one location and

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one house and someone either stuck there or all of the

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action really taking place in one location.

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And yeah, I don't know for the story really has to be enticing

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and there really has to be interesting things going on

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creatively for that.

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So just to follow through, you know, more recent example would

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be something like Barbarian or this movie gets lumped into

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with prey is another who made movie.

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I mean, that one is all outdoors and has like a more broader

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cast and that was really good.

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I like that movie a lot.

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Right.

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So I mean, and I bring that up because it is but it's not the

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highest budget either.

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You can tell that they're doing critics are lumping them together

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from a Hulu production.

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The critics are because they like this movie because I think

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it speaks to things that I've definitely talked about.

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And you agree with as well of like, well, I don't know

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necessarily and please let me know otherwise.

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But like the last episode we did with Danny about the Pope's

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exorcist is that was a pretty medium to low budget movie.

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And he did a lot for what it really one location as well.

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And that can be really fun and exciting.

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And there is definitely a want by me to have more movies like

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that because there has been an issue and also the Blumhouse

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of it all for better or for worse is like Blumhouse shows you

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that you can make if you keep the budget really low and the

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creative like kind of stick of it, you know, takes off and

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there is a lot of just playing the numbers game.

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Then there's a lot of financial reward for doing that.

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And so I think that there it's nice to see medium to low budget

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movies getting made more and we do want to see more of that

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trend because that is something that has died out from the

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Marvel effect of it where you're just seeing mainly movies in

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theaters being like 200 million, 300 million dollars.

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And that's the only reason that people will go out to the

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theater, which to this movies like yeah, just a bummer's.

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I think this could have done well broader with people seeing

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it collectively together and there's just not a.

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There's the industry isn't doing that and that's unfortunate

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and it's hard to continue having movies made at this level

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if you're not going to put them in theaters so that they are

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profitable because we're just living in this weird black box

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time where.

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Streaming services are producing movies and the profitability

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of them is so opaque.

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So it really just makes this weird kind of standard and kind

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and understanding in what success is in this industry right

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now where it just seems like in order to be in the theaters

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it has to be really expensive and a majority of the time

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those really expensive movies start catering to too many and

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start becoming uninteresting and we want to have like kind of

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medium to low budget movies that are really interesting being

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played at a larger scale so that more people are at least

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having the discussion about movies like this and it is a

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bummer like you were saying you know this movie coming out

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in September no one's really talking about it.

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I haven't heard anybody talk about it but I think if it

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would have received a broader distribution and not been

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controlled by a streaming service who wants just more fodder

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for their for their content for their platform you know

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movies like this could maybe get the legs now.

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I'm not I don't want to have its pop when it first came out

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and then just kind of went away. Yeah and it didn't have any

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lasting power.

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Yeah, it's my guess but as far as what effect that has on

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the streaming service and how many people just signed up for

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Hulu because they saw this movie was exclusive to this

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streaming service. I yeah like you're saying that it is it

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is opaque and it's not we're not sure like what that actually

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means for them but to get a certified fresh critic review

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I don't even know if that means anything either but for a

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for a horror movie that's an hour and a half that's you know

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short with a low budget and everything like that seems to

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be something more in line with what would be an audience

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favored in our experience on this podcast. I don't know it

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would be something that would be that like a popcorn fun

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horror movie that drops on a streaming service that audiences

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have a good time with it but yeah critics were were more into

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this one.

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Then the audience and I think there were some some hooks that

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didn't completely jive with all all audience members but I'm

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glad we like talked about just on the horror movie.

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Genre in in general.

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I tend to like stuff like this to like the sci-fi sort of thing

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and stuff that has like a little bit of fantastical element

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to it but this one goes in in an interesting direction which

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isn't apparently clear and just watching the trailer just

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before we started recording. I didn't even know anything about

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this movie going in. I think I had seen scrolled by it on Hulu

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and maybe like added it to my list and then just kept on

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scrolling or something like that but sure there's nothing that

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that was really screaming at me to check this out and there's

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just so much stuff out there. It's it's hard to so much stuff

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out there. Yeah and it's crazy how a movie like this gets

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buried right like we're talking about a movie that cost a couple

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million dollars to me that isn't necessarily a bad movie and

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we're about to get into an audience but like yeah to just

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feel this sense of like a whole production was made to make

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this movie and then it just becomes a tile on a fucking

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screen that gets a little bit of promotion depending on how

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your algorithm feels about you is really just yeah kind of

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that's the real horror movie in my mind because yeah I don't

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like is this movie great? Debatable but I think people would

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have had fun in the theater seeing this. Sure I don't I don't

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see why not and I think it has and I don't it's an hour and

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a half like it has enough to keep people interested. I'd say

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if you're locked in but I mean I think it's I think yeah we

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should start getting into yeah that's it into the actual movie

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proper and this is something that again I had no idea what

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this movie was going into it besides just seeing kind of like

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a poster and maybe like a house with like aliens that's all I

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kind of I knew or like a flying saucer over a house. No one

508
00:25:42,620 --> 00:25:45,220
will say you was kind of innocuous not really sure what

509
00:25:45,220 --> 00:25:53,620
that means and the movie starts and in my mind this is an

510
00:25:53,620 --> 00:25:59,420
introduction to everything why she is alone and setting the

511
00:25:59,420 --> 00:26:03,420
stage and there's no one else around and she's not speaking

512
00:26:03,420 --> 00:26:08,420
she's not speaking okay okay so that's like and I just had

513
00:26:08,420 --> 00:26:13,420
this conversation with you Brandon recently about a Pixar

514
00:26:13,420 --> 00:26:16,620
tier list that we put together just just for funsies because

515
00:26:16,620 --> 00:26:21,420
we're like that we like movies I like the movies movies movies

516
00:26:21,420 --> 00:26:28,420
movies movies movies movies movies movies movies movies and

517
00:26:28,420 --> 00:26:32,420
my I had to put Wally S tier for myself because it's such an

518
00:26:32,420 --> 00:26:37,820
amazing film and it's such a good example of using the effect

519
00:26:37,820 --> 00:26:43,020
that this movie is using for the entire thing but in Wally it

520
00:26:43,020 --> 00:26:46,620
is really the first like 1520 minutes where there is no

521
00:26:46,620 --> 00:26:52,420
dialogue and it's too great effect and to this one it

522
00:26:52,420 --> 00:26:57,020
definitely has a great effect on you but whether you're willing

523
00:26:57,020 --> 00:27:02,820
to commit as much as the movie is committing is is completely

524
00:27:02,820 --> 00:27:06,620
up to you and I am saying right now is a big part of the

525
00:27:06,620 --> 00:27:12,220
polarizing reviews but at the beginning I'm very in on this

526
00:27:12,220 --> 00:27:15,420
like I'm very interested in what's going on and I like that

527
00:27:15,420 --> 00:27:20,620
they're refraining from some of the dialogue and it's just her

528
00:27:20,620 --> 00:27:27,820
just existing in this house alone I'm already getting a little

529
00:27:27,820 --> 00:27:34,220
oh or a little bit not not this again when well it's when

530
00:27:34,220 --> 00:27:38,420
she's doing all the miniatures man like yeah huh it's it's a

531
00:27:38,420 --> 00:27:41,820
trope now and I don't know I'm trying to very I'm trying to

532
00:27:41,820 --> 00:27:45,420
think how many horror movies have this but it's gotta be her

533
00:27:45,420 --> 00:27:49,020
hereditary was hereditary was the most recent one I think was

534
00:27:49,020 --> 00:27:51,820
it that one that had the dollhouse and all the miniatures

535
00:27:51,820 --> 00:27:54,420
and everything like there's so many horror movies I feel like

536
00:27:54,420 --> 00:27:58,420
that they'll just have like a little dollhouse or miniatures

537
00:27:58,420 --> 00:28:02,020
representing that's supposed to have some bigger symbology or

538
00:28:02,020 --> 00:28:07,020
represent representing yeah and then the movies it goes into

539
00:28:07,020 --> 00:28:11,220
it deeper or it does and and this one it just like many other

540
00:28:11,220 --> 00:28:14,620
things I don't think it it's kind of weak on the follow

541
00:28:14,620 --> 00:28:19,020
through or it's just there to add a flourish to this character

542
00:28:19,020 --> 00:28:22,820
of her going through her trauma that which we find out later

543
00:28:22,820 --> 00:28:27,020
about but that was my first little hiccup and then just

544
00:28:27,020 --> 00:28:31,220
slowly sinking into the no dialogue how was that for you

545
00:28:31,220 --> 00:28:35,620
did you expect that did you know that's what this was no I

546
00:28:35,620 --> 00:28:40,820
knew nothing about this movie just like you um I was getting

547
00:28:40,820 --> 00:28:46,020
already really wrapped up in my mind about the way that this

548
00:28:46,020 --> 00:28:49,420
movie looks because there's things about this movie that I

549
00:28:49,420 --> 00:28:55,020
really I I like yeah and but there there's a lot of times

550
00:28:55,020 --> 00:28:59,220
that it is falling into the stereotypes of what a current

551
00:28:59,220 --> 00:29:04,020
present modern movie looks like that was it was really at

552
00:29:04,020 --> 00:29:08,820
odds with the film already in that regard where the

553
00:29:08,820 --> 00:29:13,020
decision where the decisions to where the camera is I thought

554
00:29:13,020 --> 00:29:16,820
were interesting but there's a lot of aesthetics applied to

555
00:29:16,820 --> 00:29:19,820
the film like you know an after effects or whatever and it's

556
00:29:19,820 --> 00:29:23,620
so just like every other streaming movie or every like

557
00:29:23,620 --> 00:29:28,020
stereotypical movie made now and we've talked about it a little

558
00:29:28,020 --> 00:29:31,820
bit for being in one location I don't know you got to be like

559
00:29:31,820 --> 00:29:35,020
malignant or some shit where you're like whoa look at where

560
00:29:35,020 --> 00:29:40,420
the cameras cameras like in the attic and it's like through

561
00:29:40,420 --> 00:29:44,820
rooms and stuff yeah or like I don't know if Landon has a

562
00:29:44,820 --> 00:29:48,620
nice way of like getting you into the geography and making

563
00:29:48,620 --> 00:29:53,620
you feel like the house has a character of its own that's

564
00:29:53,620 --> 00:29:58,820
right it's the fifth beetle yeah it's like New York City babe

565
00:29:58,820 --> 00:30:04,620
yeah yeah it's like it's like it's like it's like it's like

566
00:30:04,620 --> 00:30:09,620
sexy city that so her doing all of these like intricacies of

567
00:30:09,620 --> 00:30:12,820
the house made me also really think like I just briefly

568
00:30:12,820 --> 00:30:17,620
mentioned earlier about where the crawdad saying like this kind

569
00:30:17,620 --> 00:30:22,620
of what women do when left to their own devices they get

570
00:30:22,620 --> 00:30:26,620
really interested in is kind of like a marsh girls and she is

571
00:30:26,620 --> 00:30:30,020
she's just got like you know marsh girl had her drawings of

572
00:30:30,020 --> 00:30:33,220
bugs or whatever it was and then now you know those are way

573
00:30:33,220 --> 00:30:40,420
cooler than these little fucking no no no she makes dresses

574
00:30:40,420 --> 00:30:49,620
to so much so much fucking take a painting of a plant any day

575
00:30:49,620 --> 00:30:53,820
yeah so that's bullshit doll houses no the dollars are fine

576
00:30:53,820 --> 00:30:58,820
it's it's the trope now it's it's interesting how in my mind

577
00:30:58,820 --> 00:31:04,020
how that's kind of become a weird trope of horror movies it is

578
00:31:04,020 --> 00:31:08,020
open in on somebody working on their dollhouse miniature like I

579
00:31:08,020 --> 00:31:13,420
don't know it just is classic now and she sends she's sending

580
00:31:13,420 --> 00:31:16,020
dresses there's some words written on a page you know this

581
00:31:16,020 --> 00:31:20,420
is a Etsy you're kind of yeah uh-huh you're kind of trying to

582
00:31:20,420 --> 00:31:24,820
piece together some some like an online business you know

583
00:31:24,820 --> 00:31:28,020
which goes into this question that I think both of us had is

584
00:31:28,020 --> 00:31:33,620
what year is it what time are we in right now because she's

585
00:31:33,620 --> 00:31:37,020
got this seemingly online business all by herself so her

586
00:31:37,020 --> 00:31:40,220
mother died and her best friend died but she's living in this

587
00:31:40,220 --> 00:31:43,820
house by herself she's got this are these modern dresses or

588
00:31:43,820 --> 00:31:49,620
are these retro I can't tell you know what somebody who likes

589
00:31:49,620 --> 00:31:57,820
fashion just a little briefly is it's the what she's wearing

590
00:31:57,820 --> 00:32:01,020
has a lot of current modern fashion to it is because this

591
00:32:01,020 --> 00:32:07,820
fashion goes in cycles and so you'll see trends in seventies

592
00:32:07,820 --> 00:32:12,820
cropping up and then she also early 2000s but like yeah it's

593
00:32:12,820 --> 00:32:18,620
there is a modernist to her look I think her look in general

594
00:32:18,620 --> 00:32:22,420
like hers actress is great like I just off the bat

595
00:32:22,420 --> 00:32:26,820
Katelyn Deaver is not oh we've already any already said that

596
00:32:26,820 --> 00:32:29,620
I have a yeah any problem I have what she's wearing yeah it's

597
00:32:29,620 --> 00:32:32,220
like you know the highways to jeans and and I'm trying to

598
00:32:32,220 --> 00:32:37,220
think like sneakers and like a floral you know mustard yellow

599
00:32:37,220 --> 00:32:41,620
shirt which is like that that yellow can be like especially

600
00:32:41,620 --> 00:32:44,880
when you got it leaves yeah these like kind of like a

601
00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:49,420
sleeve that's the thing them but they combine with the house

602
00:32:49,420 --> 00:32:52,220
which has not changed in the amount of time that her mom

603
00:32:52,220 --> 00:32:56,620
dies like is the house of the time as well or she also it's

604
00:32:56,620 --> 00:32:59,420
also part of her trauma where she refuses to move on because

605
00:32:59,420 --> 00:33:02,320
the big glaring thing for me a little bit later in the movie

606
00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:05,820
where I've already been questioning what year it is why

607
00:33:05,820 --> 00:33:10,220
in the hell does she have a rotary phone I wrote why is

608
00:33:10,220 --> 00:33:14,320
the cell phones it's gotta be the cell phones yeah it's gotta

609
00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:19,020
be a flat screen right she does and then I also looked up

610
00:33:19,020 --> 00:33:22,920
super modern I looked I legitimately it was so interested

611
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:26,820
in the year of this that I looked up what her Subaru that

612
00:33:26,820 --> 00:33:32,620
that arm a big arm legged alien or whatever oh yeah gets

613
00:33:32,620 --> 00:33:36,520
burned in and I looked up the Subaru and like that's a 1990

614
00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:41,920
Subaru uh-huh so again I'm like okay maybe it's the early

615
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:44,620
90s but then I couldn't understand why she doesn't have

616
00:33:44,620 --> 00:33:50,920
a cell phone and it was just a lot of these okay I understand

617
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:54,020
though so let it let it details are light in this movie

618
00:33:54,020 --> 00:33:57,320
it's an hour and a it's an hour and a half horror movie and

619
00:33:57,320 --> 00:34:03,520
there's little glimpses sure but stuff like that is already

620
00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:08,720
begging the question where and this is gonna be a driving

621
00:34:08,720 --> 00:34:13,320
point for me I think throughout this is you committed so hard

622
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:18,520
to no dialogue that it hampered the movie in other ways where

623
00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:22,320
some of that stuff would be easily handled in a and a

624
00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:24,720
throwaway line or two or something that would spend a

625
00:34:24,720 --> 00:34:27,720
little time on filling out what's a little bit of the setting

626
00:34:27,720 --> 00:34:31,420
but I in my mind this movie just seems so committed to this

627
00:34:31,420 --> 00:34:37,520
no dialogue thing for for not a good enough reason perhaps

628
00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:42,720
the intro is great love that but past that it seems like a

629
00:34:42,720 --> 00:34:49,720
handicap rather than like a creative flourish that it's it

630
00:34:49,720 --> 00:34:53,920
could it could flourish in other areas had it just accepted

631
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:59,220
that it could add a few scenes of whatever I don't know it's

632
00:34:59,220 --> 00:35:01,320
hard for me because I don't want to tell this movie how

633
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:06,120
to be completely but I can it's just it's you can see it just

634
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:09,820
like holding itself back and it's so fucking frustrating

635
00:35:09,820 --> 00:35:12,420
because it's really cool in a lot of ways but it's holding

636
00:35:12,420 --> 00:35:15,620
itself back. Yeah.

637
00:35:17,820 --> 00:35:23,120
So I really watched it follows and I watched some interviews

638
00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:29,120
with the director and he made a stylistic choice to make it

639
00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:35,320
very ambiguous of the time period that it's in because he

640
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:39,720
was wanted people to think less about like what I'm questioning

641
00:35:39,720 --> 00:35:42,320
what year is it because why don't they have cell phones yada

642
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:45,620
yada yada like all of this stuff and wants it to have this

643
00:35:45,620 --> 00:35:52,220
era of this is focused on this thing that is doesn't need to

644
00:35:52,220 --> 00:35:56,620
be represented by time and push it to trying to just

645
00:35:56,620 --> 00:36:02,020
classically tell a narrative. But this movie is so sparse on

646
00:36:02,020 --> 00:36:05,420
things that I'm constantly trying to like figure her shit

647
00:36:05,420 --> 00:36:09,320
out about it because it's giving me so little of it and I'm

648
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:12,920
just like why is this happening? What where are we? What time

649
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:18,120
is this? Why is it? You know all of this shit and I don't know

650
00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:20,820
sometimes I'm like is that a feeling of my part? Am I am

651
00:36:20,820 --> 00:36:24,820
I overthinking this or is the movie just presenting me things

652
00:36:24,820 --> 00:36:29,020
in a way where it is begging the question and I'm interested

653
00:36:29,020 --> 00:36:32,820
in the answer but it has no interest in telling me what the

654
00:36:32,820 --> 00:36:35,320
answer is because maybe it doesn't have an interesting point

655
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:39,820
of view. Yeah, that's that's I think you hit it on the nail on

656
00:36:39,820 --> 00:36:44,220
the head with that with this movie. Unfortunately, like I

657
00:36:44,220 --> 00:36:47,820
don't think it's following through because it doesn't know

658
00:36:47,820 --> 00:36:52,220
what to follow through on because it doesn't have and the big

659
00:36:52,220 --> 00:36:55,320
thing for me is and we're just we're just getting because

660
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:58,220
it's hard to go beat by beat with this movie because it is it

661
00:36:58,220 --> 00:37:03,720
is silent, essentially silent movie. But the big parts of

662
00:37:03,720 --> 00:37:07,720
this movie are her past and why the town hates her and aliens

663
00:37:07,720 --> 00:37:11,520
attacking her home. The aliens attacking our home happens

664
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:17,820
very quickly. So this whole just real quick just the story of

665
00:37:17,820 --> 00:37:21,120
her in relation to the town or relation to the conflict of the

666
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:24,720
alien and then how you would learn more about the character

667
00:37:24,720 --> 00:37:28,020
and kind of like somewhat linear way at least you're going

668
00:37:28,020 --> 00:37:30,820
through a movie giving information to the audience and it

669
00:37:30,820 --> 00:37:35,820
is a little bit of information about her but very opaque then

670
00:37:35,820 --> 00:37:38,720
goes right into an invasion movie then goes into another

671
00:37:38,720 --> 00:37:41,220
movie where there's interaction with the town then goes into

672
00:37:41,220 --> 00:37:44,920
an action movie with aliens and it just ends up like really

673
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:50,120
not letting you have those moments because it is shifting

674
00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:54,820
through things so wildly. Right. So let's have this.

675
00:37:56,820 --> 00:37:59,720
Right. So that's essentially essentially what I'm trying to

676
00:37:59,720 --> 00:38:03,720
get at was those those those are the big things is it's

677
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:09,820
whatever it's whatever I'm kind of just the connective. I was

678
00:38:09,820 --> 00:38:14,720
about to say whatever. I was about to say I didn't I'm losing

679
00:38:14,720 --> 00:38:21,220
it but those three things that I mentioned of of her at her

680
00:38:21,220 --> 00:38:25,720
at her house and or sorry her trauma and her past and the

681
00:38:25,720 --> 00:38:30,920
aliens attacking are like the big and the town hating her.

682
00:38:31,220 --> 00:38:34,520
Those are the three things that this movie has to reconcile

683
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:37,820
and yes like you said you said it goes through those those

684
00:38:37,820 --> 00:38:42,820
portions and I agree with you where there is no connective

685
00:38:42,820 --> 00:38:46,320
tissue or reason why also the other thing would be it's

686
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:49,520
completely sent the whole time. They don't justify it they

687
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:51,820
don't reconcile all of those things together and they don't

688
00:38:51,820 --> 00:38:56,620
give a reason why it needs to be silent and why this trauma

689
00:38:56,620 --> 00:38:59,820
that that she has with her past about accidentally murdering

690
00:38:59,820 --> 00:39:04,020
her friend and well purposely harming her it's my it's

691
00:39:04,020 --> 00:39:08,820
manslaughter folks but it does not properly reconcile those

692
00:39:08,820 --> 00:39:15,320
things and it does it in a way that's a very like an enticing

693
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:17,920
enough Twilight Zone episode that should be an hour long

694
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:21,420
instead of a half hour is definitely like more of a

695
00:39:21,420 --> 00:39:25,520
broader like reaching into final thoughts of this movie but

696
00:39:26,020 --> 00:39:30,420
it's hard to go piece by piece because it's just constantly

697
00:39:30,420 --> 00:39:33,420
begging these questions that it doesn't have the wherewithal

698
00:39:33,420 --> 00:39:41,020
my answer is like where we're at. Yeah. That's okay. Let's

699
00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:47,520
to reel it into the plot like we get into this home invasion

700
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:53,320
movie relatively and that part is in a lot of ways pretty

701
00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:56,220
scary. I would argue that the first half of this movie.

702
00:39:56,620 --> 00:39:58,120
Yes, I'm in on the beginning.

703
00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:05,720
Um, but what do you question I have is let's and let's really

704
00:40:05,720 --> 00:40:08,720
what did you think about the aliens in the way that they

705
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:17,820
they were fine that they're they're great. I like the feed

706
00:40:17,820 --> 00:40:20,720
is the feet are pretty cool but they're like the feeds are

707
00:40:20,720 --> 00:40:24,320
like little fingers and then they got these two really long

708
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:28,220
fingers. Yeah, I like that there's a little bit of variance

709
00:40:28,220 --> 00:40:32,020
between the side. There's the sizing changes and I don't know

710
00:40:32,020 --> 00:40:36,320
what they all mean but I like the I like the sizing differences

711
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:39,820
and then I like their little hand feets. These are nice and

712
00:40:39,820 --> 00:40:44,020
how you get a nice close up of that. But yeah, I don't know.

713
00:40:44,220 --> 00:40:46,720
It's acceptable because they're they're grays. They're just

714
00:40:46,720 --> 00:40:50,720
like the most most like typical stereotypical kind of aliens

715
00:40:50,720 --> 00:40:55,720
with like the big eyes and and those and like very typical

716
00:40:55,720 --> 00:41:00,920
like eyes where there's a lot of ice stuff. Yeah, I saw a lot

717
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:04,820
of hand and stabbing of skulls and then yeah, the big one was

718
00:41:04,820 --> 00:41:08,620
really cool. I like that big one. Yeah, the big one scary but

719
00:41:08,620 --> 00:41:13,820
the little one really. I didn't get what its deal was man.

720
00:41:15,820 --> 00:41:18,920
What do you want little guy and then it would just sit in the

721
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:20,720
fucking hallway and start doing that.

722
00:41:25,220 --> 00:41:26,320
And doing these hand motions.

723
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:31,620
And then she's like, what the fuck and then slamming it with

724
00:41:31,620 --> 00:41:34,720
the cupboard door. I just wasn't sure how I felt about it

725
00:41:35,220 --> 00:41:37,620
about it. I was like, is this a child alien or is this an old

726
00:41:37,620 --> 00:41:41,420
man alien or what kind of what kind of alien is and what does

727
00:41:41,420 --> 00:41:44,220
it want? I just always just curious. What does it want?

728
00:41:44,720 --> 00:41:48,720
Yeah, so that's a good question about them. I think the CGI

729
00:41:48,720 --> 00:41:52,820
of the aliens is good. But again, this movie puts up odds right

730
00:41:52,820 --> 00:41:54,120
off the bat because

731
00:41:57,220 --> 00:41:59,920
and I understand that it's because it's challenging my

732
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:05,420
maybe like my predilections to good versions of this and I

733
00:42:05,420 --> 00:42:08,720
should let it be more of it on its own stand on its own to

734
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:11,520
instead of doing a hard comparison, but it's really

735
00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:17,320
difficult to not enjoy the concept of you don't need to

736
00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:21,520
show the aliens yet. It's so much scarier to not have them so

737
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:25,820
visible so quickly. And the fact that the the aliens are we

738
00:42:25,820 --> 00:42:30,020
get such a clear visual of the aliens so quickly into the movie

739
00:42:30,220 --> 00:42:33,620
really makes it less scary for the rest of it.

740
00:42:34,220 --> 00:42:38,920
The reason that it had I agree with you.

741
00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:45,420
But narratively why they might have done it and maybe why it

742
00:42:45,420 --> 00:42:48,620
it might it kind of worked a little bit was like there was

743
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:52,020
a suspicion and a mystery as to why and this is the other

744
00:42:52,020 --> 00:42:54,920
portion I was talking about as to why everyone hated her at

745
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:55,520
town.

746
00:42:56,820 --> 00:43:00,520
And to know that there really were aliens and that there was

747
00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:03,920
a dead alien body waiting for at home when she like would go

748
00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:06,320
into town or whatever when or when she was trying to figure

749
00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:11,320
out like how to fix the issue. You you almost knew that it

750
00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:14,620
wasn't in her head already and you knew that it was real and

751
00:43:14,620 --> 00:43:16,520
that she would go back and then it was still there.

752
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:21,020
That was an element that kept me going a little bit longer.

753
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:23,920
You know because those two things hadn't like I'm saying

754
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:26,520
they like hadn't been reconciled and I was waiting for them

755
00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:31,120
to like give you the answer and and hopefully it'd be

756
00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:35,220
satisfying as to oh maybe it has something to do with why

757
00:43:35,220 --> 00:43:38,320
everyone hates her in town or like and I was yeah in my

758
00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:41,320
mind you're like oh is she an alien is the rest are the rest

759
00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:43,320
of the town aliens or something is something already

760
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:48,420
happened like that. And that mystery gets you going a little

761
00:43:48,420 --> 00:43:51,320
bit longer again and like a Twilight Zone sort of way

762
00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:56,220
because with that moment when she does go into town after the

763
00:43:56,220 --> 00:44:01,720
first attack and that's such a build up to possible dialogue

764
00:44:01,720 --> 00:44:05,620
and possible speech between two people and somebody's mouth

765
00:44:05,620 --> 00:44:06,420
does open.

766
00:44:08,720 --> 00:44:10,720
Something does come out but it's not weird.

767
00:44:10,720 --> 00:44:14,920
So yeah and after that James think about the connection that

768
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:18,120
she gets spit on and then the spit of the alien.

769
00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:21,920
Come in the little guy or what I don't I don't get it.

770
00:44:22,820 --> 00:44:26,420
I'm sorry I'm acting like I understood what the spit was

771
00:44:26,420 --> 00:44:26,820
about.

772
00:44:27,220 --> 00:44:30,720
I feel like I looked down in my phone to write a note and

773
00:44:30,720 --> 00:44:34,020
then all of a sudden the spit meant something. Can you

774
00:44:34,020 --> 00:44:36,220
explain to me what the what was going on with the spit out

775
00:44:36,220 --> 00:44:40,820
of the out of the lady out of the no that I understand.

776
00:44:41,620 --> 00:44:45,420
I know how to be alien at which at which point the with like

777
00:44:45,420 --> 00:44:49,220
this the creature that was going into her mouth or so when

778
00:44:49,220 --> 00:44:52,320
she comes back from getting spit on and then also that attack

779
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:57,020
on the bus which was scary a little bit but then it just

780
00:44:57,120 --> 00:45:01,220
it was so God the whole time I wanted to be in on the movie

781
00:45:01,220 --> 00:45:05,720
but I'm like why I just I need a little bit more of like why

782
00:45:05,720 --> 00:45:09,220
all of a sudden now the people like certain people on the bus

783
00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:13,820
were yeah most people on the bus were like this person's crazy

784
00:45:13,820 --> 00:45:15,320
but then this guy's crazy.

785
00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:18,920
Why is that guy crazy and it's a body snatchers thing that's

786
00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:21,920
I mean that's all that is in my mind of just like these

787
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:25,520
these people are getting taken over and infected and it was

788
00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:29,820
just that a mid invasion at that point and she was

789
00:45:29,820 --> 00:45:33,420
experiencing it and yeah I don't know it's like it's hard

790
00:45:33,420 --> 00:45:36,620
for me to fully criticize or like oh that's going to solve

791
00:45:36,620 --> 00:45:40,120
everything it just needs more dialogue like if that's what

792
00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:42,420
you want to do wanted to do that's what you wanted to do

793
00:45:42,420 --> 00:45:46,120
but I just don't think it benefited as much as they

794
00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:49,120
might have hoped that it would because yeah I don't need

795
00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:52,520
necessarily a news thing in the background on a TV it's like

796
00:45:52,720 --> 00:45:58,220
there's been an attack on the city and it's year 1993 and

797
00:45:58,220 --> 00:46:01,920
let me tell you exactly what's happening it's there is a nice

798
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:05,220
sort of element of like oh I'm with the in the perspective

799
00:46:05,220 --> 00:46:09,420
of the main character and in the element of unknowing but

800
00:46:09,420 --> 00:46:13,220
that busing was kind of annoying of it would just went up

801
00:46:13,220 --> 00:46:15,820
to the bus driver the bus drivers just look back and was like

802
00:46:17,720 --> 00:46:21,620
what just like I just nothing you didn't say you just look

803
00:46:21,620 --> 00:46:24,020
back and was like wow this is crazy what's happening right

804
00:46:24,020 --> 00:46:26,620
now and then there's some people that were like oh we should

805
00:46:26,620 --> 00:46:28,620
help her like reaching out their hands or something but not

806
00:46:28,620 --> 00:46:33,420
say anything and then just a lot of you know alien clicking

807
00:46:33,420 --> 00:46:38,520
and sputtering and stuff which I must say great audio design

808
00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:42,720
the aliens are fine like they're they're solid but the audio

809
00:46:42,720 --> 00:46:47,220
design was huge and some of the lighting effects of I like a

810
00:46:47,220 --> 00:46:50,320
classic kind of sucking you up into their saucer like that's

811
00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:54,220
fun like if you want to go into a classic sort of and that's

812
00:46:54,220 --> 00:46:56,820
why they're gray aliens so it fits the whole theme of just

813
00:46:56,820 --> 00:46:59,720
like yeah we're going to do just they are right down the middle

814
00:46:59,720 --> 00:47:03,720
aliens saucers it's an invasion like I think a little less

815
00:47:03,720 --> 00:47:07,420
mystery with that helped you to focus on a little bit more

816
00:47:07,420 --> 00:47:11,420
mystery of her character which the movie should have not

817
00:47:11,420 --> 00:47:14,820
should I don't but could have done a little bit more with

818
00:47:14,820 --> 00:47:18,120
that you know because it had in my mind removed a little bit

819
00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:20,620
of the mystery of like oh yeah these are for sure aliens and

820
00:47:20,620 --> 00:47:25,520
and they're attacking and then yeah getting into their their

821
00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:28,820
ship was was interesting enough I like you know yeah some of

822
00:47:28,820 --> 00:47:30,620
the design stuff like

823
00:47:36,620 --> 00:47:39,420
not bad not bad some of that stuff was but I wasn't super

824
00:47:39,420 --> 00:47:44,820
scared but the opening house invasion a little bit.

825
00:47:45,820 --> 00:47:48,820
Yeah it's in a way it's our it's earth as our home and that's

826
00:47:48,820 --> 00:47:51,220
the invasion that's what that's what's really happened.

827
00:47:51,220 --> 00:47:57,220
I mean this movie is just a collection of home invasions you

828
00:47:57,220 --> 00:47:59,920
know to talk about again the scale of this movie that's where

829
00:47:59,920 --> 00:48:01,020
drags in the middle.

830
00:48:02,620 --> 00:48:05,420
It's she has a home invasion in the first part of the movie

831
00:48:05,620 --> 00:48:08,320
then she goes out into town no one talks or and it's so

832
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:12,120
aggressive to me then no one talks to her like it really is

833
00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:14,320
no you're talking about after the invasion and she gets spit

834
00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:17,820
on and everything yeah and her just going to the town and

835
00:48:17,820 --> 00:48:22,920
she does not try hard enough to be that much of a pariah in

836
00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:23,820
town I don't know.

837
00:48:25,820 --> 00:48:30,220
Yeah to get spit on by in the police station.

838
00:48:31,020 --> 00:48:34,420
I know God I was like that's battery like you.

839
00:48:34,620 --> 00:48:38,820
Who cares if he's the police chief I mean go on she was a child.

840
00:48:41,020 --> 00:48:44,520
It was a child that is battery though I remember learning

841
00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:48,420
about that law class about how yeah projectile.

842
00:48:50,020 --> 00:48:52,720
Spitting somebody on somebody is totally battery and the fact

843
00:48:52,720 --> 00:48:55,820
that it happens in the station is just so jarring and weird

844
00:48:55,820 --> 00:48:58,420
because you're yeah there's so much of this movie.

845
00:48:58,620 --> 00:49:02,220
I feel so weird kind of saying this but like oftentimes I'm

846
00:49:02,220 --> 00:49:06,320
like why is this happening like why is this allowed to happen

847
00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:09,220
what does this mean all of that stuff there's just it's so

848
00:49:09,220 --> 00:49:14,320
much presenting things to you so either thinly veiled or

849
00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:18,120
has no substance behind that really like is visually cool

850
00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:22,720
and interesting but I just yeah left with a bunch of questions

851
00:49:22,720 --> 00:49:26,420
so this next series of home invasions is really where it

852
00:49:26,420 --> 00:49:31,220
drags for me I agree this is where it and that's where it

853
00:49:31,220 --> 00:49:36,220
reminds me of and of Pope's exorcist a little bit and horror

854
00:49:36,220 --> 00:49:39,420
movies that just don't completely work is when they get

855
00:49:39,420 --> 00:49:43,720
into this rhythm in the middle of I don't know the monster is

856
00:49:43,720 --> 00:49:48,120
constantly like doing these new tricks and if the tricks are

857
00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:50,820
things that it's doing to escalate things are escalating

858
00:49:50,820 --> 00:49:53,520
or aren't making it more interesting or adding more it

859
00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:56,520
just starts to become repetitive and bland and that's kind of

860
00:49:56,920 --> 00:50:01,220
this just begins to add more questions as far as yeah different

861
00:50:01,220 --> 00:50:05,720
types of aliens and just her going back to the one location

862
00:50:05,720 --> 00:50:09,020
that this movie has already been and so it was kind of nice

863
00:50:09,020 --> 00:50:13,020
for me like oh she's on a bus new location cool oh she's getting

864
00:50:13,020 --> 00:50:16,620
attacked here oh is the post office post office due to the mailman

865
00:50:16,620 --> 00:50:20,520
oh he's back okay this is like escalating in a different way

866
00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:23,120
oh she's in town that she has to just go back and that was

867
00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:26,720
such like that's where it started to lose me in a in a big way

868
00:50:26,720 --> 00:50:30,820
was she got spit on and then she just goes back home as if

869
00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:35,220
she's defeated just from and it's like you start to see later

870
00:50:35,220 --> 00:50:39,320
on that everyone's getting attacked and I guess or does

871
00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:42,820
she realizes it then I guess too maybe and so she goes home

872
00:50:42,820 --> 00:50:47,320
and starts nailing blankets to her window and stuff like that

873
00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:50,820
and she starts to realize that this is more widespread of

874
00:50:50,820 --> 00:50:56,920
course with the bus attack but then yeah it turns into what

875
00:50:56,920 --> 00:51:00,820
the movie already was was aliens are attacking her home.

876
00:51:02,120 --> 00:51:05,320
So it sucks it sucks like the other guy back in or whatever

877
00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:09,520
and then the little guy and the big guy you got pop a bear

878
00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:13,720
and mom and little bear leg and tiny like guy.

879
00:51:16,220 --> 00:51:19,320
It's it's so funny to talk about this movie because there's

880
00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:23,620
so happens that is yeah I don't know.

881
00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:26,920
There's a red light at one point.

882
00:51:27,420 --> 00:51:28,020
Yeah.

883
00:51:29,020 --> 00:51:33,420
A little guys I didn't care for the long laid guy man and

884
00:51:33,420 --> 00:51:35,820
just gets like kind of caught in a car.

885
00:51:35,820 --> 00:51:36,820
Oh yes not.

886
00:51:36,820 --> 00:51:39,120
That was very almost pretty klutzie.

887
00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:42,620
It was like it's able to burst a hole through one portion

888
00:51:42,620 --> 00:51:47,020
of the car but isn't able to figure out how to get out of

889
00:51:47,020 --> 00:51:47,220
it.

890
00:51:47,220 --> 00:51:47,520
Yeah.

891
00:51:48,720 --> 00:51:53,020
These damn weird little feet hands that I got aren't

892
00:51:53,020 --> 00:51:56,220
retractable enough for to go back in once I'm pushed through

893
00:51:56,220 --> 00:52:00,120
an automobile and then that yeah and then just explodes.

894
00:52:02,120 --> 00:52:02,620
I.

895
00:52:02,620 --> 00:52:08,520
I kind of like it's hard because there's nothing super glowing

896
00:52:08,520 --> 00:52:09,920
about this movie that I can give it.

897
00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:14,720
I like the audio design even though there's no speech but

898
00:52:14,720 --> 00:52:18,120
like the I like the aliens audio design and I like this

899
00:52:18,120 --> 00:52:23,020
little weird creature thing that goes like in her mouth.

900
00:52:23,020 --> 00:52:25,820
I was going to say there's a moment where I like was about

901
00:52:25,820 --> 00:52:29,420
to flip my TV off and walk away when I was like it was all

902
00:52:29,420 --> 00:52:30,520
a dream.

903
00:52:30,520 --> 00:52:31,520
Yeah.

904
00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:33,520
I was like it's 20 minutes left.

905
00:52:33,520 --> 00:52:37,020
There's no way that this is got to this got to pull the rug

906
00:52:37,020 --> 00:52:39,220
out from under me but I was a little worried I was like

907
00:52:39,220 --> 00:52:40,820
they're really fucking doing this right now.

908
00:52:41,820 --> 00:52:42,320
Yeah.

909
00:52:42,720 --> 00:52:45,520
But I knew little yeah that little guy had some effect.

910
00:52:46,620 --> 00:52:51,120
Yeah it was interesting to see that trope played on screen

911
00:52:51,120 --> 00:52:55,120
because we have recently played a bonus game where it has a

912
00:52:55,120 --> 00:52:59,520
similar situation where an alien affects the population.

913
00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:04,520
Some type of yeah well alien as well does some yeah.

914
00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:13,120
The little tadpole that infects people's minds that's part of

915
00:53:13,120 --> 00:53:14,520
taking over.

916
00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:20,220
I mean this movie just so poorly finishes itself and we don't

917
00:53:20,220 --> 00:53:23,120
have to fully get there yet but this tadpole the visual of

918
00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:24,320
it is it's cool.

919
00:53:24,320 --> 00:53:27,320
Yeah you see other people with it kind of sticking out of

920
00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:30,420
another throw and kind of like looking into the sky and just

921
00:53:30,420 --> 00:53:35,820
like and but yeah even the budget then you can tell small

922
00:53:35,820 --> 00:53:37,520
because it's like a group of like 10 people.

923
00:53:38,720 --> 00:53:41,320
It's not like the whole town is just like a little small like

924
00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:45,820
oh the neighbors and they're just like looking up and yeah

925
00:53:45,820 --> 00:53:50,120
it feels like a quaint little local home invasion by the by

926
00:53:50,120 --> 00:53:53,420
the aliens of this town and how it directly affects them in a

927
00:53:53,420 --> 00:53:57,520
very specific interesting way.

928
00:53:57,520 --> 00:54:02,920
This but yeah it the mailman goes after I like he does the

929
00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:06,820
Kobe shot with the box that added some life to the movie for

930
00:54:06,820 --> 00:54:08,120
two seconds.

931
00:54:08,120 --> 00:54:14,720
I was like oh oh come back to me and then he gets like half

932
00:54:14,720 --> 00:54:17,420
absorbed either and like breaks his back or whatever I guess

933
00:54:17,420 --> 00:54:20,820
is what happens that was kind of cool but anyways yeah that

934
00:54:20,820 --> 00:54:24,720
little creature she spits back out and then it like turns into

935
00:54:24,720 --> 00:54:27,120
her that was kind of cool.

936
00:54:27,720 --> 00:54:30,620
It was you see it she's like running away and it's like it's

937
00:54:30,620 --> 00:54:33,120
like gets the beam on it and then it slowly starts forming

938
00:54:33,120 --> 00:54:34,120
into a body.

939
00:54:34,420 --> 00:54:36,620
It was kind of giving me annihilation vibes and making

940
00:54:36,620 --> 00:54:38,520
me want to watch that instead.

941
00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:39,820
Yeah.

942
00:54:42,020 --> 00:54:47,520
Yeah that was all of that is to talk to the trauma element

943
00:54:47,520 --> 00:54:49,720
of this movie right like her.

944
00:54:49,720 --> 00:54:53,920
She's battling herself battling herself because the monster

945
00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:57,320
theoretically goes into you and then just puts you to sleep in

946
00:54:57,320 --> 00:54:59,920
the best version of the life that you want.

947
00:55:00,520 --> 00:55:04,420
Yeah her best friend was back and yeah but then she also had

948
00:55:04,420 --> 00:55:08,720
to deal with the trauma which is how she like it was really

949
00:55:08,720 --> 00:55:14,120
weird to me that it showed her outside as the other person

950
00:55:14,320 --> 00:55:18,520
after having been taken over so theoretically like the alien

951
00:55:18,520 --> 00:55:21,620
takes over people but their body is still there and they're

952
00:55:21,620 --> 00:55:23,620
like moving through the world.

953
00:55:23,620 --> 00:55:25,220
It's one of his channel.

954
00:55:26,220 --> 00:55:29,820
Yeah which was so weird to me because I was like yeah I'm

955
00:55:30,020 --> 00:55:34,620
still like did she just seem completely absent like in that

956
00:55:34,620 --> 00:55:38,720
control or was it taking over her mind but also controlling

957
00:55:38,720 --> 00:55:42,420
her to what to just be her and what is the purpose of that

958
00:55:42,420 --> 00:55:43,120
for the aliens.

959
00:55:43,120 --> 00:55:46,420
Why is it just coming down and like turning people into these

960
00:55:46,420 --> 00:55:47,920
things to what extent.

961
00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:51,220
They really just seem yeah they're all deal befuddled me

962
00:55:51,220 --> 00:55:54,320
because they seem curious enough but then they they weren't

963
00:55:54,320 --> 00:55:58,720
completely pacifist like they would they would fight and

964
00:55:58,720 --> 00:56:03,020
they would attack her back and they would get in her face and

965
00:56:03,020 --> 00:56:07,020
hunt her down but they also seemed kind of incompetent and

966
00:56:07,020 --> 00:56:14,620
kind of clumsy and and a little slow and but overall curious

967
00:56:14,620 --> 00:56:19,120
really not not necessarily easily but that was another thing

968
00:56:19,120 --> 00:56:21,820
that she yeah she takes out a few yeah.

969
00:56:22,420 --> 00:56:26,320
Yeah she takes them down which is it yeah kind of which is cool

970
00:56:26,320 --> 00:56:29,020
and then at the end they're like we're good we cool we cool

971
00:56:29,020 --> 00:56:31,720
we're good right yeah we're good join us.

972
00:56:34,820 --> 00:56:41,020
Kuba gobble gobble aliens baby this is one of the yeah we're

973
00:56:41,020 --> 00:56:44,120
in like the more exciting part of it and I think getting on

974
00:56:44,120 --> 00:56:51,520
their ship is the climactic moment that gives me something

975
00:56:51,620 --> 00:56:57,520
and is a point that the movie is leading to and is attempting

976
00:56:57,520 --> 00:57:01,520
to do everything that I'm criticizing and loving you know

977
00:57:01,520 --> 00:57:04,320
criticism against about reconciling these different

978
00:57:04,320 --> 00:57:09,720
aspects of trauma meets abduction you know and are past

979
00:57:09,720 --> 00:57:12,420
everything and how the town treats her and it addresses it

980
00:57:12,420 --> 00:57:17,220
all in this spaceship but just not enough and not too full

981
00:57:17,220 --> 00:57:21,320
you know fruition in in in my mind because yeah it's just

982
00:57:21,320 --> 00:57:26,520
kind of unclear as to what the aliens glean out of doing this

983
00:57:26,520 --> 00:57:31,320
process and why they feel like they want to keep her around

984
00:57:31,320 --> 00:57:34,220
I guess they look at her this would be this would be the

985
00:57:34,220 --> 00:57:37,520
read right is like she's an alien to and her own society

986
00:57:37,520 --> 00:57:41,020
they would like we relate with that she can help us I don't

987
00:57:41,020 --> 00:57:44,320
know I don't know is that what they're talking about now

988
00:57:45,220 --> 00:57:46,320
that's giving the gears.

989
00:57:47,320 --> 00:57:49,420
Yeah, I mean some people.

990
00:57:50,020 --> 00:57:55,020
I yeah I it's and what do they what do they get like looking

991
00:57:55,020 --> 00:57:57,920
at her trauma it seems almost like that had something to do

992
00:57:57,920 --> 00:58:01,920
with weighing their decision because them looking at that

993
00:58:01,920 --> 00:58:04,520
specific moment in her past while she's sitting there

994
00:58:04,520 --> 00:58:07,320
obviously it's a big moment in her past but they could look

995
00:58:07,320 --> 00:58:11,220
at any point in her history as in her life as a person so the

996
00:58:11,220 --> 00:58:12,620
only I don't know the only reason they're showing that is

997
00:58:12,620 --> 00:58:15,420
because there's an audience watching a movie and that's

998
00:58:15,420 --> 00:58:20,520
the big part that we all need to see but if it is important

999
00:58:20,520 --> 00:58:23,820
to the aliens yeah like what does that how does that change

1000
00:58:23,820 --> 00:58:26,620
their mind about anything how does that affect what they

1001
00:58:26,620 --> 00:58:30,920
think of her and do I need to care or is it just something

1002
00:58:30,920 --> 00:58:33,720
that those are all questions that the movies posing and

1003
00:58:33,720 --> 00:58:36,020
it's having fun with knowing that you're you're thinking

1004
00:58:36,020 --> 00:58:39,320
about it but we arrive I think at the beginning of this

1005
00:58:39,320 --> 00:58:44,420
discussion too is did it think of it did it think itself out

1006
00:58:44,420 --> 00:58:45,720
at all or you know.

1007
00:58:46,020 --> 00:58:48,520
No, I mean and I think the ending is apparent.

1008
00:58:49,020 --> 00:58:53,720
You don't understand the objective of it you see some

1009
00:58:53,720 --> 00:58:56,820
reconciliation of what the movie cares about the most which

1010
00:58:56,820 --> 00:59:02,420
is how trauma but in relation to her and the aliens none of

1011
00:59:02,420 --> 00:59:07,820
that makes sense I don't know how the like you said benefit

1012
00:59:07,820 --> 00:59:12,620
from understanding her from maybe the rate is that by

1013
00:59:13,420 --> 00:59:16,420
helping her go through the better understanding psychology

1014
00:59:16,420 --> 00:59:21,620
so that people better but I feel like again that's giving

1015
00:59:21,620 --> 00:59:24,820
the movie more credit than because I think you just go

1016
00:59:24,820 --> 00:59:29,120
into this going like I want to make the aliens move and then

1017
00:59:29,120 --> 00:59:33,120
that's the extent of thinking about it and leaning more so

1018
00:59:33,120 --> 00:59:39,220
on really unfinished answers as kind of like like it's like

1019
00:59:39,220 --> 00:59:42,420
if somebody wants to seem smarter than they are they just

1020
00:59:42,820 --> 00:59:46,720
leave you know kind of these really generic ubiquitous

1021
00:59:46,720 --> 00:59:51,120
questions out there being like well what if what this and

1022
00:59:52,820 --> 00:59:55,820
it's kind of it's so thinly veiled though.

1023
00:59:55,820 --> 01:00:00,520
It's where you want some of those questions to be answered

1024
01:00:00,520 --> 01:00:04,320
just because you want to know that the interest of and the

1025
01:00:04,420 --> 01:00:08,520
like where this movie cares to tell the story is worth

1026
01:00:08,520 --> 01:00:14,720
listening to and I don't get to that point personally.

1027
01:00:14,720 --> 01:00:17,220
Yeah, I just am constantly left with.

1028
01:00:18,720 --> 01:00:20,620
Why what are we doing?

1029
01:00:20,620 --> 01:00:28,220
I get it but like why does that matter and it's a Twilight

1030
01:00:28,220 --> 01:00:31,420
Zone ending which I can imagine even writing it.

1031
01:00:31,420 --> 01:00:34,120
I know not for sure on this but it's like we want to get to

1032
01:00:34,120 --> 01:00:42,220
this ending but even is not necessarily a bad one but the

1033
01:00:42,220 --> 01:00:46,120
means of getting there I don't think puts enough agency with

1034
01:00:46,120 --> 01:00:50,820
her as to wanting to be a part of it you see her smiling and

1035
01:00:50,820 --> 01:00:52,020
happy at the end.

1036
01:00:53,120 --> 01:00:57,320
But it is all at the behest of these aliens who are you know

1037
01:00:57,320 --> 01:01:02,220
have her in their little dark lab and they get to decide what

1038
01:01:02,220 --> 01:01:03,220
her fate is.

1039
01:01:03,820 --> 01:01:08,020
It just doesn't give you much satisfaction and for me too

1040
01:01:08,020 --> 01:01:11,820
it's like even with that ending I almost would have wanted

1041
01:01:11,820 --> 01:01:17,820
some sort of voluntary or sort of expression of I don't belong

1042
01:01:17,820 --> 01:01:18,720
with these people.

1043
01:01:19,120 --> 01:01:23,920
I don't relate with humanity anymore because they have out

1044
01:01:23,920 --> 01:01:27,520
I'm an outcast and some sort of plea by her or something and

1045
01:01:27,520 --> 01:01:29,620
maybe that would be Hokey and maybe that would be she's out

1046
01:01:29,620 --> 01:01:31,620
of maybe that one work but some sort of way of her having

1047
01:01:31,620 --> 01:01:34,220
agency to choose this life.

1048
01:01:34,720 --> 01:01:38,020
She seems happy with the outcome but it just isn't by her own

1049
01:01:38,020 --> 01:01:39,920
design and it isn't.

1050
01:01:39,920 --> 01:01:44,320
Yeah and then that would maybe be bringing that trauma into

1051
01:01:44,320 --> 01:01:47,920
it in a way where she's able to address it and if in a not

1052
01:01:47,920 --> 01:01:50,920
necessary I know it's a it's not necessarily happy ending

1053
01:01:50,920 --> 01:01:53,320
it's pretty it's kind of fucked up and whatever but like

1054
01:01:53,320 --> 01:01:57,620
that's still a pretty good ending and there's a way to get

1055
01:01:57,620 --> 01:02:00,220
to it that is way more interesting than than how they

1056
01:02:00,220 --> 01:02:03,720
did it and yeah again I think if it was an hour longer on a

1057
01:02:03,720 --> 01:02:06,320
Twilight Zone episode or something like that where that

1058
01:02:06,320 --> 01:02:09,220
middle part of a couple other aliens that's all that happens

1059
01:02:09,220 --> 01:02:11,620
in the middle right like a couple more aliens attacker like

1060
01:02:12,020 --> 01:02:15,020
and then you know they get and that she offs them and it

1061
01:02:15,020 --> 01:02:18,620
doesn't really add to anything I think you can shave for even

1062
01:02:18,620 --> 01:02:22,820
for an hour and a half movie some some time on off it or add

1063
01:02:22,820 --> 01:02:28,120
more more substance where it's it's needed and yeah he too

1064
01:02:28,120 --> 01:02:30,620
always try to tell what a movie needs to be because this very

1065
01:02:31,020 --> 01:02:36,720
much feels like almost an art piece by yeah like it sounds

1066
01:02:36,720 --> 01:02:39,720
maybe sounds like pedantic to be like it's a student film or

1067
01:02:39,720 --> 01:02:42,220
something like that but it almost seems like a dare or a

1068
01:02:42,220 --> 01:02:45,220
challenge to be like what if I made a movie with no dialogue

1069
01:02:46,120 --> 01:02:51,420
rather than that idea being a natural sort of organic way of

1070
01:02:51,420 --> 01:02:53,920
arriving there it just is like well what if we just didn't

1071
01:02:53,920 --> 01:02:58,420
have dialogue wouldn't that be crazy like it just and it doesn't

1072
01:02:58,420 --> 01:03:02,220
add enough for me but yeah we and I find myself circling in

1073
01:03:02,220 --> 01:03:06,820
in the discussion of this because it is the rises and falls of

1074
01:03:06,820 --> 01:03:10,620
this movie are are minor and more at the beginning and and

1075
01:03:11,020 --> 01:03:14,320
where the middle is is that a little repetitive part.

1076
01:03:15,920 --> 01:03:18,720
What is there anything there is a graveyard that's one other

1077
01:03:19,620 --> 01:03:24,820
seat location you find a little about a bit stuff out there

1078
01:03:24,820 --> 01:03:27,220
that her mom is dead and you know you see her friends

1079
01:03:28,020 --> 01:03:32,020
graveyard but I like as a just an actor moment at the beginning

1080
01:03:32,020 --> 01:03:34,420
when she's visiting her mom's grave like and she's walking

1081
01:03:34,420 --> 01:03:38,120
away and there's just people out of focus and she's so like

1082
01:03:38,120 --> 01:03:42,720
socially awkward that she just like it's before she leaves

1083
01:03:42,720 --> 01:03:45,220
she looks in the mirror and practices waving and smiling

1084
01:03:45,320 --> 01:03:47,820
love that moment great actor moment especially moving to a

1085
01:03:47,820 --> 01:03:50,420
dialogue like that's great stuff she's bringing so much to

1086
01:03:50,420 --> 01:03:54,020
the table with this and then yeah she just like looks over

1087
01:03:54,020 --> 01:03:56,520
and smiles and does that same thing just a just how she

1088
01:03:56,520 --> 01:03:59,720
practices and then just looks away and discuss it just like

1089
01:03:59,720 --> 01:04:06,520
to be so self inflicting these these wounds in yourself and

1090
01:04:06,520 --> 01:04:09,720
in this this composure that you have or you just can tell

1091
01:04:09,720 --> 01:04:12,920
that this person has no has a very little self confidence

1092
01:04:12,920 --> 01:04:19,020
and respect and she does that so well which is a is necessary

1093
01:04:19,020 --> 01:04:22,120
when you can't speak it you got to just roll up to the mailbox

1094
01:04:22,120 --> 01:04:25,820
and be like I hope no one sees me and you're just like what is

1095
01:04:25,820 --> 01:04:32,820
her deal but then the ending shot of dancing credit of the movie

1096
01:04:32,820 --> 01:04:36,420
that was a was a nice ending scene and for a sci-fi little

1097
01:04:36,420 --> 01:04:39,120
short story sci-fi thing of like yeah someone dancing while

1098
01:04:39,120 --> 01:04:43,920
while flying saucers are going overhead as a this is a fun

1099
01:04:43,920 --> 01:04:48,520
enough little short story sort of scene I think reminded me of

1100
01:04:48,520 --> 01:04:49,320
a short story yeah.

1101
01:04:50,020 --> 01:04:55,220
Yeah absolutely and there isn't anything inherently wrong

1102
01:04:55,220 --> 01:04:55,720
with that.

1103
01:04:56,720 --> 01:05:01,720
You know it just yeah it just kind of again a lot of this

1104
01:05:01,720 --> 01:05:06,320
just feels like a little bit of like a placeholder plotter

1105
01:05:06,620 --> 01:05:10,620
does not it has an idea that's all that it cares about and

1106
01:05:10,620 --> 01:05:12,820
you know what there are plenty of movies that have been made

1107
01:05:12,820 --> 01:05:18,020
like that and it's not to this movie's discredit to be like

1108
01:05:18,020 --> 01:05:23,720
that it doesn't need to be super deep but it just it's it

1109
01:05:23,720 --> 01:05:27,320
rides a weird line that we've been writing this conversation

1110
01:05:27,620 --> 01:05:33,320
about you know it's not that we hate this movie or just like

1111
01:05:33,320 --> 01:05:37,620
this movie even but I don't know what is it trying to do yeah

1112
01:05:37,620 --> 01:05:40,920
what is it trying to do what is it trying to say and like it's

1113
01:05:40,920 --> 01:05:45,720
lost a little is it just doesn't have to answer any of those

1114
01:05:45,720 --> 01:05:48,820
questions that maybe you need answer just a little bit just

1115
01:05:48,820 --> 01:05:50,820
a tiny little bit more I'd say yeah.

1116
01:05:50,820 --> 01:05:56,220
Yeah but it's a little bit more yeah it's it's this movie

1117
01:05:56,220 --> 01:06:00,020
and the artists they're pretty much the same doing the same

1118
01:06:00,020 --> 01:06:03,220
thing doing the same thing I'm only I didn't really didn't

1119
01:06:03,220 --> 01:06:06,420
have much notes I think the only other one was I was I just

1120
01:06:06,420 --> 01:06:08,320
put put some shoes on.

1121
01:06:09,820 --> 01:06:14,420
She like walks out the door and is leaving the house because

1122
01:06:14,920 --> 01:06:17,620
it's like after the first alien death and she just leaving

1123
01:06:17,620 --> 01:06:21,320
the house with no shoes fucking shoes on you just stepped in

1124
01:06:21,320 --> 01:06:22,020
class.

1125
01:06:25,220 --> 01:06:28,320
I'm feeling good about our discussion though it's I think

1126
01:06:28,320 --> 01:06:35,720
I am too yeah my notes are just a lot of like I've been saying

1127
01:06:35,720 --> 01:06:40,620
is please I'm one of my notes is please please give us some

1128
01:06:40,920 --> 01:06:43,420
other people to talk to yeah.

1129
01:06:43,420 --> 01:06:50,420
It was I just need aliens are back again this little guy

1130
01:06:50,420 --> 01:06:52,120
version of the alien is funny.

1131
01:06:54,820 --> 01:06:56,020
Was the kind of notes I wrote.

1132
01:06:58,920 --> 01:07:01,620
Yeah there's it almost got into more of the introspective

1133
01:07:01,620 --> 01:07:04,520
stuff when she swallowed that little little creature thing

1134
01:07:06,120 --> 01:07:09,620
didn't stay there long and I'm not sure what else could be

1135
01:07:09,620 --> 01:07:14,520
done with it but just some sort of like like the aliens

1136
01:07:14,520 --> 01:07:17,820
invading had a little bit more like metaphor allegorical

1137
01:07:17,820 --> 01:07:20,320
sort of sense with her own trauma something like a little

1138
01:07:20,320 --> 01:07:23,420
bit more that connective tissue I think was is kind of my big

1139
01:07:23,420 --> 01:07:28,920
deal with this movie and then just the the commitment to

1140
01:07:29,220 --> 01:07:33,820
know talking was not worth it for me for the most part overall

1141
01:07:33,820 --> 01:07:34,920
yeah I didn't hate it didn't love it.

1142
01:07:34,920 --> 01:07:41,120
So this rounds us off for the or spooky season I mean to shift

1143
01:07:41,120 --> 01:07:44,720
into the next part of the podcast and listen to the views.

1144
01:07:45,120 --> 01:07:48,520
I just want to leave this though asking like on a scale of

1145
01:07:49,120 --> 01:07:52,720
one to five how scary would you put this movie.

1146
01:07:54,120 --> 01:08:01,920
Uh five being the scariest one being the least scary yeah.

1147
01:08:01,920 --> 01:08:03,920
No the other way.

1148
01:08:03,920 --> 01:08:05,920
Whoa glad I clarified.

1149
01:08:07,920 --> 01:08:09,520
I don't know like a two.

1150
01:08:09,920 --> 01:08:11,920
It's really not scary.

1151
01:08:11,920 --> 01:08:15,320
Yeah I don't know I was going to I was going to say 2.5 but

1152
01:08:15,320 --> 01:08:19,320
like yeah the aliens are kind of dopey in certain ways like

1153
01:08:19,320 --> 01:08:22,920
they they really are not threatening I wanted because

1154
01:08:22,920 --> 01:08:25,920
you don't see any other buddy anybody else and like you see

1155
01:08:25,920 --> 01:08:28,920
the after effects of them getting the little it's more of a

1156
01:08:28,920 --> 01:08:31,920
body snatchers thing where they're curious and they want to

1157
01:08:31,920 --> 01:08:37,920
like take over but there isn't a moment where they straight up

1158
01:08:37,920 --> 01:08:41,920
just like off somebody in town or something they're just kind

1159
01:08:41,920 --> 01:08:44,920
of like chasing her and she's able to outrun them at every

1160
01:08:44,920 --> 01:08:51,920
turn and then just get stuck in a car or in a cabinet or like

1161
01:08:51,920 --> 01:08:54,920
just have them with a miniature thing like I don't know they

1162
01:08:54,920 --> 01:08:57,920
just did not seem threatening to me and that's kind of like

1163
01:08:57,920 --> 01:09:01,920
to me and that just became more and more clear as time went on

1164
01:09:03,920 --> 01:09:07,920
but what would you rate on the two as well.

1165
01:09:07,920 --> 01:09:09,920
Yeah two and a half.

1166
01:09:09,920 --> 01:09:11,920
Yeah that's what I was saying yeah.

1167
01:09:11,920 --> 01:09:12,920
Half scary.

1168
01:09:12,920 --> 01:09:14,920
It's like a half and half scary.

1169
01:09:14,920 --> 01:09:18,920
Let's listen to some reviews from the before we do that let's

1170
01:09:18,920 --> 01:09:19,920
take a quick break.

1171
01:09:19,920 --> 01:09:22,920
Yes quick break and we'll be right back for a review time.

1172
01:09:22,920 --> 01:09:26,920
Welcome back everybody.

1173
01:09:26,920 --> 01:09:32,920
We are going into review zone review territory.

1174
01:09:32,920 --> 01:09:37,920
The polarizing reviews are rife here on the run run tea this

1175
01:09:37,920 --> 01:09:43,920
evening of October 31st is a very spooky time to be recording

1176
01:09:43,920 --> 01:09:44,920
a podcast.

1177
01:09:44,920 --> 01:09:51,920
Let's check out what the people have to say it is an 82%

1178
01:09:51,920 --> 01:09:54,920
certified fresh from the critics.

1179
01:09:54,920 --> 01:09:58,920
Let's check out a little smattering of reviews here.

1180
01:09:58,920 --> 01:10:00,920
A 91 from Collider.

1181
01:10:00,920 --> 01:10:04,920
Samantha Coley says Dever takes Duffield's clever anxiety

1182
01:10:04,920 --> 01:10:09,920
inducing script and levels it up with her complex performance

1183
01:10:09,920 --> 01:10:13,920
together the duo are a one to punch delivering a thought

1184
01:10:13,920 --> 01:10:17,920
provoking sci-fi thriller that promises to become a favorite

1185
01:10:17,920 --> 01:10:21,920
among genre lovers.

1186
01:10:21,920 --> 01:10:25,920
Not.

1187
01:10:25,920 --> 01:10:31,920
From Empire and 80 John Nugent says a close encounter of the

1188
01:10:31,920 --> 01:10:33,920
wordless kind.

1189
01:10:33,920 --> 01:10:38,920
This is a smart and splendidly scary horror sci-fi with a

1190
01:10:38,920 --> 01:10:43,920
brilliantly brittle turn from Caitlyn Dever.

1191
01:10:43,920 --> 01:10:45,920
It's brilliantly brittle.

1192
01:10:45,920 --> 01:10:50,920
Close encounter of the wordless kind.

1193
01:10:50,920 --> 01:10:52,920
Oh John you've done it again.

1194
01:10:52,920 --> 01:10:54,920
You devil.

1195
01:10:54,920 --> 01:10:59,920
From IndieWire75 David Elrick says things get harried in a

1196
01:10:59,920 --> 01:11:02,920
hurry and while Duffield doesn't reinvent the wheel when it

1197
01:11:02,920 --> 01:11:06,920
comes to the various home alone like battles that pit alien

1198
01:11:06,920 --> 01:11:11,920
versus Dever the spontaneous director stages them with rare

1199
01:11:11,920 --> 01:11:16,920
aplomb and an unerring respect for the fact that Brinn's house

1200
01:11:16,920 --> 01:11:20,920
represents her entire universe.

1201
01:11:20,920 --> 01:11:22,920
Wow David got a lot out of this movie.

1202
01:11:22,920 --> 01:11:23,920
Good for him.

1203
01:11:23,920 --> 01:11:26,920
Yeah.

1204
01:11:26,920 --> 01:11:29,920
I'll do maybe one more here.

1205
01:11:29,920 --> 01:11:34,920
From SlashFilm70 from Chris Evangelista.

1206
01:11:34,920 --> 01:11:37,920
Chris says while I would have liked the layout of the house to

1207
01:11:37,920 --> 01:11:40,920
be better established no one will save you makes the most of

1208
01:11:40,920 --> 01:11:43,920
the limited locations providing you can have big thrills and

1209
01:11:43,920 --> 01:11:50,920
chills in restricted spaces.

1210
01:11:50,920 --> 01:11:53,920
That's a that's the critic side of the thing you start to get a

1211
01:11:53,920 --> 01:11:56,920
little hint of some criticism at the end there.

1212
01:11:56,920 --> 01:11:59,920
Let's check out some audience reviews.

1213
01:11:59,920 --> 01:12:03,920
Use some one stars from the audience strictly one stars on

1214
01:12:03,920 --> 01:12:08,920
Google reviews this time because yeah it's not unlike this

1215
01:12:08,920 --> 01:12:12,920
there's not on a lot of places because it's a Hulu thing

1216
01:12:12,920 --> 01:12:17,920
from Grant McCaustland.

1217
01:12:17,920 --> 01:12:21,920
Grant says I normally love a good alien thriller slash horror

1218
01:12:21,920 --> 01:12:25,920
signs dark skies the fourth kind but this was not it the first

1219
01:12:25,920 --> 01:12:30,920
15 minutes girl stabs alien in head girl pants heavily aliens

1220
01:12:30,920 --> 01:12:33,920
do dance moves throw a bug takes over and then is easily

1221
01:12:33,920 --> 01:12:37,920
removed alien falls off house then gets stuck in car girl

1222
01:12:37,920 --> 01:12:40,920
goes up car with barbecue lighter girl goes to town gets

1223
01:12:40,920 --> 01:12:43,920
spit on buys a disguise for some reason then goes home girl

1224
01:12:43,920 --> 01:12:47,920
outruns alien with 20 foot appendages aliens have more

1225
01:12:47,920 --> 01:12:50,920
dialogue than girl girl dances the end the order of these

1226
01:12:50,920 --> 01:12:52,920
events is probably incorrect but I promise you it doesn't

1227
01:12:52,920 --> 01:13:01,920
matter what a pile of poo.

1228
01:13:01,920 --> 01:13:07,920
What a pile of poo he actually says what a pile pile of

1229
01:13:07,920 --> 01:13:12,920
poo he adds two piles in there but I created big pile double

1230
01:13:12,920 --> 01:13:17,920
pile from Zellian Marvel one star no one will save you the

1231
01:13:17,920 --> 01:13:20,920
title is perfect and fitting for someone who acts foolishly

1232
01:13:20,920 --> 01:13:24,920
no one can really save a fool hence one star no zero star

1233
01:13:24,920 --> 01:13:28,920
option in this film everything is fine except for the lack of

1234
01:13:28,920 --> 01:13:32,920
common sense in IQ below room temperature if it's a Netflix

1235
01:13:32,920 --> 01:13:39,920
series episode titles can be like pilot one alien on a

1236
01:13:39,920 --> 01:13:47,920
vacation to if I sulk I go Hulk three the spits town for

1237
01:13:47,920 --> 01:13:52,920
jogging saves you from alien five home is everything six

1238
01:13:52,920 --> 01:13:57,920
three hot water kettles a day keeps the alien away seven

1239
01:13:57,920 --> 01:14:01,920
the doctor says where did the alien go eight alien barbecue

1240
01:14:01,920 --> 01:14:07,920
nine drag me to the UV light 10 welcome to the community I want

1241
01:14:07,920 --> 01:14:10,920
to I want to watch that I want to alien barbecue that sounds

1242
01:14:10,920 --> 01:14:13,920
lit this sounds like a cool album to have music and then

1243
01:14:13,920 --> 01:14:19,920
11 you'll find smile on every alien face a couple listing

1244
01:14:19,920 --> 01:14:27,920
reviews from Fabiso mo coquane one star if you're reading this

1245
01:14:27,920 --> 01:14:31,920
take it as a cease and desist order this film is a master

1246
01:14:31,920 --> 01:14:36,920
class in poor storytelling whatever the visual whatever in

1247
01:14:36,920 --> 01:14:38,920
the visuals are cool and the attempt at an alternative

1248
01:14:38,920 --> 01:14:44,920
narrative is almost commendable but it is a bad movie so bad

1249
01:14:44,920 --> 01:14:50,920
oh wait oh I lost oh that's in so bad yeah it's just so bad

1250
01:14:50,920 --> 01:15:00,920
yeah and let's so bad so bad let's do like one or two more

1251
01:15:00,920 --> 01:15:07,920
okay so let's not end it on so bad from Martha Ward one star

1252
01:15:07,920 --> 01:15:10,920
it was so promising the first 30 minutes were scary and

1253
01:15:10,920 --> 01:15:14,920
suspenseful I was cheering for the character to run hide fight

1254
01:15:14,920 --> 01:15:17,920
but then I mean I honestly I think this was written by someone

1255
01:15:17,920 --> 01:15:20,920
who murdered someone and wanted aliens to reward them with a

1256
01:15:20,920 --> 01:15:23,920
world full of zombie alien body snatchers for a new life with

1257
01:15:23,920 --> 01:15:29,920
no accountability anti social persons fantasy IDK that's

1258
01:15:29,920 --> 01:15:34,920
probably an insult to anti-soesh people this movie could have

1259
01:15:34,920 --> 01:15:37,920
been the flick of the year but it was the flop of the year

1260
01:15:37,920 --> 01:15:47,920
disappointed disappointed it had potential I was going to do

1261
01:15:47,920 --> 01:15:54,920
one more let me here it is from Mick kids though and one star

1262
01:15:54,920 --> 01:15:58,920
they say horrible just absolutely horrible I can't believe

1263
01:15:58,920 --> 01:16:01,920
someone really produced a movie like this how can someone watch

1264
01:16:01,920 --> 01:16:06,920
such a poopy cock a poopy boring horrible goofy movie it was

1265
01:16:06,920 --> 01:16:09,920
not silly it was so confusing my cat ended up in my oven

1266
01:16:09,920 --> 01:16:11,920
that's how confused he was he didn't know the difference

1267
01:16:11,920 --> 01:16:14,920
between his own bed and even started a moating he literally

1268
01:16:14,920 --> 01:16:17,920
started doing the gritty while playing Roblox he started

1269
01:16:17,920 --> 01:16:20,920
fortnight a moating and Roblox a moating at the same time

1270
01:16:20,920 --> 01:16:24,920
I'm so disappointed I wasted my money on Hulu just to watch this

1271
01:16:24,920 --> 01:16:30,920
Grr I'm so angie Tiss made me shown my other side thank you

1272
01:16:30,920 --> 01:16:35,920
we're not just telling stories we're changing lives

1273
01:16:35,920 --> 01:16:40,920
wow and that should close us out there

1274
01:16:40,920 --> 01:16:47,920
but that's part of the internet review we've ever had on this show

1275
01:16:47,920 --> 01:16:51,920
yes but that's what's contributing to these numbers that we hold

1276
01:16:51,920 --> 01:16:54,920
fast to here on PolarizeBot is like every now and then you got

1277
01:16:54,920 --> 01:16:58,920
to do a fucking troll review because they account for part of

1278
01:16:58,920 --> 01:17:02,920
the score we talked about Captain Marvel I mean come on

1279
01:17:02,920 --> 01:17:07,920
so I mean getting a taste of those reviews

1280
01:17:07,920 --> 01:17:12,920
people I think are extremely frustrated without the dialogue

1281
01:17:12,920 --> 01:17:15,920
like that's got to be that that seemed to be like a big thing

1282
01:17:15,920 --> 01:17:19,920
not much happens I think some of those were some of them were

1283
01:17:19,920 --> 01:17:23,920
more facetious than others and I think they were frustrated

1284
01:17:23,920 --> 01:17:26,920
with how it ended I think frustrated with the whole

1285
01:17:26,920 --> 01:17:30,920
experience in in a broad way at least from from some of those

1286
01:17:30,920 --> 01:17:34,920
reviews I got I don't know it seems understandable that not

1287
01:17:34,920 --> 01:17:38,920
everyone would love this do you do you agree I do agree yeah

1288
01:17:38,920 --> 01:17:45,920
because it's it's too like genre E and like trying to be

1289
01:17:45,920 --> 01:17:48,920
indie that I think a lot of the stuff that we've talked about

1290
01:17:48,920 --> 01:17:52,920
wanting more of I think the general audience would be also

1291
01:17:52,920 --> 01:17:57,920
interested in a little bit more meat with these potatoes

1292
01:17:57,920 --> 01:18:01,920
and be well I mean you got plenty of boiling water going

1293
01:18:01,920 --> 01:18:05,920
plenty of potatoes yeah

1294
01:18:05,920 --> 01:18:10,920
the grill going yeah let's get alien alien barbecue yeah let's

1295
01:18:10,920 --> 01:18:16,920
try that try that alien meat okay

1296
01:18:16,920 --> 01:18:20,920
oh come on you would do it you fucking do it alien jerky we're

1297
01:18:20,920 --> 01:18:25,920
just going to you know fucking place off a highway from here

1298
01:18:25,920 --> 01:18:31,920
in Las Vegas yeah go to go to Roswell storm area 51

1299
01:18:31,920 --> 01:18:39,920
with Naruto run yeah yeah and we get the jerky man that's all

1300
01:18:39,920 --> 01:18:45,920
I want just give me that jerky yum yum yum yum yum yum yum yum yum

1301
01:18:45,920 --> 01:18:52,920
let's give our Numbies speaking of those those damn

1302
01:18:52,920 --> 01:18:55,520
Numbies. What do you say, Brandini? You want to go first or second?

1303
01:18:56,600 --> 01:18:58,760
If we could, I'm going to do a flip of coin.

1304
01:18:59,400 --> 01:19:00,400
Flip it.

1305
01:19:02,520 --> 01:19:03,520
Flip it.

1306
01:19:04,040 --> 01:19:05,040
I dare you.

1307
01:19:05,040 --> 01:19:07,040
What are you calling? You can call it.

1308
01:19:08,400 --> 01:19:10,520
Or I can pull it up on the googs.

1309
01:19:11,040 --> 01:19:12,040
Oh, you got it right there.

1310
01:19:13,280 --> 01:19:14,280
You want me to call it?

1311
01:19:15,040 --> 01:19:16,040
OK.

1312
01:19:17,200 --> 01:19:18,200
Yeah, I can see.

1313
01:19:18,640 --> 01:19:19,640
OK.

1314
01:19:19,640 --> 01:19:21,640
No one else at home can, but it's OK.

1315
01:19:21,640 --> 01:19:22,640
Pull it.

1316
01:19:23,360 --> 01:19:24,360
Tails.

1317
01:19:29,960 --> 01:19:31,320
He's got it. He's got it.

1318
01:19:31,320 --> 01:19:33,400
I got to get some drum roll.

1319
01:19:34,640 --> 01:19:37,600
It's so you get to choose, I guess.

1320
01:19:38,680 --> 01:19:39,840
We decided what that meant.

1321
01:19:39,840 --> 01:19:40,840
Your first.

1322
01:19:41,640 --> 01:19:43,640
Is that what that means?

1323
01:19:43,640 --> 01:19:46,480
OK, we did decide what it means before we flip.

1324
01:19:46,480 --> 01:19:51,640
But yeah, this was I'm pretty lukewarm on this movie.

1325
01:19:53,040 --> 01:19:54,040
I think there's.

1326
01:19:54,960 --> 01:19:59,480
Enough to like about it and it doesn't and it's not too long

1327
01:19:59,480 --> 01:20:02,720
that it's not completely like offensive, like some of the audience

1328
01:20:02,960 --> 01:20:04,880
reviews seem to make it out to be.

1329
01:20:06,120 --> 01:20:08,560
I was frustrated by some aspects of it.

1330
01:20:09,360 --> 01:20:13,680
I think what was cool at the beginning, beginning as far as no dialogue

1331
01:20:13,680 --> 01:20:20,440
ended up being a real hamper to the narrative and the overall

1332
01:20:20,440 --> 01:20:23,880
enjoyment of this movie being, you know, an hour and a half long.

1333
01:20:23,880 --> 01:20:25,000
It pushed it just past an hour.

1334
01:20:25,000 --> 01:20:27,400
If it was, I don't know, I feel like if it was an hour,

1335
01:20:28,120 --> 01:20:30,640
I've made this point before, but an hour of no dialogue

1336
01:20:30,760 --> 01:20:34,280
and it was an episode of a of an anthology,

1337
01:20:34,720 --> 01:20:36,680
I could be a little bit more on board.

1338
01:20:36,680 --> 01:20:40,360
But the fact that it was a fully fleshed out movie

1339
01:20:40,360 --> 01:20:43,400
with that being such a hokey part of it

1340
01:20:44,680 --> 01:20:47,680
ended up being frustrating by the end when it was doing its.

1341
01:20:48,520 --> 01:20:51,120
You know, purported like job at the beginning to me.

1342
01:20:51,120 --> 01:20:54,200
It was like, oh, you know, she is by herself.

1343
01:20:54,200 --> 01:20:56,200
She's in talk to many people that tracks.

1344
01:20:56,200 --> 01:20:58,280
She doesn't go into town often when she does.

1345
01:20:58,280 --> 01:20:59,360
She doesn't talk to anybody.

1346
01:21:00,040 --> 01:21:01,160
The alien thing happens.

1347
01:21:01,160 --> 01:21:03,760
But when she goes into town that other time gets spit on

1348
01:21:04,080 --> 01:21:07,560
and then just goes back home, I'm like kind of out at that movie,

1349
01:21:07,760 --> 01:21:09,960
out of the movie at that time, which I think

1350
01:21:09,960 --> 01:21:12,200
which I'd say is like about halfway or so.

1351
01:21:12,200 --> 01:21:14,240
I feel like or maybe even just like a half hour in

1352
01:21:14,680 --> 01:21:17,040
because I feel like I marked it was like a half hour in when

1353
01:21:17,560 --> 01:21:21,400
they get when she gets spit on because that was like so close to dialogue.

1354
01:21:22,040 --> 01:21:25,520
And I was really just aching for it at that point instead of being like, wow,

1355
01:21:25,520 --> 01:21:28,000
this is not necessary.

1356
01:21:28,000 --> 01:21:30,320
It's kind of cool that they're doing it this far.

1357
01:21:30,760 --> 01:21:32,280
And that's hard.

1358
01:21:32,280 --> 01:21:35,560
I don't want to completely hang my hat on just that being the main criticism

1359
01:21:35,560 --> 01:21:39,400
because if I were to touch on the positive sides of it,

1360
01:21:40,200 --> 01:21:44,160
Diva's performance was otherworldly.

1361
01:21:49,360 --> 01:21:51,280
It was it was fantastic.

1362
01:21:51,280 --> 01:21:53,520
The director knew how to shoot her really well

1363
01:21:53,520 --> 01:21:56,560
and her expressions and her face like through the rearview mirror in the car

1364
01:21:57,840 --> 01:22:02,360
and her angst and and, you know, rise and falls of emotion

1365
01:22:02,360 --> 01:22:04,720
when she had to pretend to, you know, again,

1366
01:22:04,720 --> 01:22:08,240
like looking in the mirror and pretending to be happy and that smile on everything.

1367
01:22:08,240 --> 01:22:11,320
Like that's she made a meal out of it,

1368
01:22:11,320 --> 01:22:13,360
but not in a way that I was ever annoyed with her.

1369
01:22:13,840 --> 01:22:16,760
And to be with somebody for an hour and a half, just one character

1370
01:22:16,760 --> 01:22:20,160
where she's in every scene, I think, yeah, that's a big,

1371
01:22:21,000 --> 01:22:25,400
big plus for for this movie and something where like, yeah,

1372
01:22:25,400 --> 01:22:29,480
I heard she was really great and book smart and she's like and dear Evan Hansen.

1373
01:22:29,640 --> 01:22:31,040
She wasn't bad in that.

1374
01:22:31,040 --> 01:22:32,320
I wasn't crazy about that movie.

1375
01:22:32,320 --> 01:22:33,520
That was right.

1376
01:22:33,520 --> 01:22:37,400
It wasn't the problem of that movie either, but she was the coolest performance.

1377
01:22:38,800 --> 01:22:40,080
Chris, what plat?

1378
01:22:40,080 --> 01:22:41,440
What is it?

1379
01:22:41,440 --> 01:22:44,480
He's in the yeah, that was a theater camp movie.

1380
01:22:44,480 --> 01:22:46,240
He's it's pretty he's pretty great in that.

1381
01:22:47,440 --> 01:22:50,800
Another time, another time, but yeah, great performance.

1382
01:22:50,800 --> 01:22:54,440
And then the design of the alien speech.

1383
01:22:55,280 --> 01:22:57,360
Maybe it's just because there was no other speech, but I was just like,

1384
01:22:57,360 --> 01:22:59,200
oh, this is cool.

1385
01:22:59,200 --> 01:23:04,520
There sounds really cool and interesting and worked with like my sub

1386
01:23:04,520 --> 01:23:06,720
on my, you know, my surround sound system.

1387
01:23:06,720 --> 01:23:13,440
It was like, oh, really low, low and loud and made the ship seem a little more menacing.

1388
01:23:15,360 --> 01:23:20,320
I like the idea of an ending that isn't necessarily going to solve for problems,

1389
01:23:20,320 --> 01:23:25,720
but it kind of utilizes in a way for her to.

1390
01:23:26,560 --> 01:23:28,320
Yeah, I think, like I said before, I would have liked it.

1391
01:23:28,320 --> 01:23:33,600
It was it was her more her decision, but her smile at the end in this whole alien

1392
01:23:33,600 --> 01:23:39,280
world with a bunch of weird aliens, you know, pretending to be people.

1393
01:23:39,840 --> 01:23:43,920
That's kind of like cool little image there that they knew that they could like at least

1394
01:23:43,920 --> 01:23:47,600
end on a bang with that image at the end there.

1395
01:23:47,600 --> 01:23:52,560
But overall, yeah, it was it was more frustrating and not as much of a satisfying

1396
01:23:52,560 --> 01:23:53,760
experience as I wanted it.

1397
01:23:55,600 --> 01:23:57,920
And I'm feeling very lukewarm.

1398
01:23:57,920 --> 01:24:01,120
So I feel like it deserves kind of a lukewarm score.

1399
01:24:03,760 --> 01:24:06,000
And it's yeah, I don't think it's fresh.

1400
01:24:08,480 --> 01:24:09,120
It's like a.

1401
01:24:11,200 --> 01:24:12,320
It's like a 52.

1402
01:24:14,240 --> 01:24:15,120
Lou 52.

1403
01:24:15,840 --> 01:24:17,280
It's kind of just like, yeah.

1404
01:24:18,080 --> 01:24:24,080
And I'm not sure if I would recommend it wholeheartedly, but in an exercise of.

1405
01:24:24,080 --> 01:24:28,560
Telling somebody about it, it would and that's what this movie is going to be.

1406
01:24:29,280 --> 01:24:33,040
Inevitably for me is going to be like, that's the one that doesn't have dialogue.

1407
01:24:33,360 --> 01:24:36,560
And if you want to see a movie that's an hour and a half and doesn't have dialogue and it

1408
01:24:36,560 --> 01:24:37,200
does OK.

1409
01:24:38,080 --> 01:24:41,440
An OK job of getting through that.

1410
01:24:42,800 --> 01:24:43,840
It's it's there.

1411
01:24:44,480 --> 01:24:49,280
But if the beginning doesn't doesn't catch you, then I'd say just just put it back

1412
01:24:49,280 --> 01:24:49,600
down.

1413
01:24:49,600 --> 01:24:52,400
So it's just a half hearted recommendation for me.

1414
01:24:52,400 --> 01:24:54,960
And I'd like to hear from the great Bantini.

1415
01:24:56,240 --> 01:24:57,680
Yeah, so.

1416
01:25:01,520 --> 01:25:03,280
I wouldn't recommend this movie to people.

1417
01:25:03,280 --> 01:25:07,280
It's unfortunate because, yeah, I think Caitlin, the Diverse performance is worth

1418
01:25:07,280 --> 01:25:13,680
talking about, but this movie is so much more concept and flash over substance.

1419
01:25:13,680 --> 01:25:14,160
It's.

1420
01:25:17,120 --> 01:25:17,840
Long story.

1421
01:25:17,840 --> 01:25:22,560
Flash over substance, it's.

1422
01:25:22,560 --> 01:25:27,760
Library technology platform fodder, unfortunately, I would love.

1423
01:25:27,760 --> 01:25:30,800
I love the fact that this movie got made to a degree.

1424
01:25:31,520 --> 01:25:33,120
And again, I like the performance.

1425
01:25:34,240 --> 01:25:34,720
Ever.

1426
01:25:35,360 --> 01:25:35,760
But.

1427
01:25:38,880 --> 01:25:40,480
This isn't going to save anything.

1428
01:25:40,480 --> 01:25:42,800
It's not going to persuade people on anything.

1429
01:25:42,800 --> 01:25:44,080
It doesn't have an interest.

1430
01:25:44,080 --> 01:25:51,200
Like it's point of view is sparse and so difficult to recommend.

1431
01:25:51,200 --> 01:25:56,320
So for my score, since I wouldn't really recommend this movie, you know what?

1432
01:25:56,320 --> 01:25:59,840
I really do want to give enough, like I just said, credit to the movie.

1433
01:25:59,840 --> 01:26:02,960
I'm going to go a 49% is where I'm at.

1434
01:26:03,840 --> 01:26:04,720
Is a 49er.

1435
01:26:05,840 --> 01:26:06,880
49er.

1436
01:26:06,880 --> 01:26:07,440
Well done.

1437
01:26:07,440 --> 01:26:08,800
Well done podcast.

1438
01:26:08,800 --> 01:26:11,360
Well done, brandini James.

1439
01:26:11,360 --> 01:26:14,000
Steady spank you, help you help her 10.

1440
01:26:15,040 --> 01:26:19,280
It's been enjoyable talking about this movie.

1441
01:26:19,280 --> 01:26:25,040
And if I haven't already said it, I do think this is right in our alley of this podcast of

1442
01:26:25,600 --> 01:26:31,200
inciting a reaction in people and the best way you can do it.

1443
01:26:31,200 --> 01:26:36,560
And in a lot of ways is coming out on reviews on round tomatoes or the internet.

1444
01:26:36,560 --> 01:26:39,200
And yeah, I'll see every single movie is just.

1445
01:26:39,200 --> 01:26:41,760
There'll be one person that will say.

1446
01:26:43,200 --> 01:26:47,680
I never write reviews, but this movie made me write my first review here it is.

1447
01:26:47,680 --> 01:26:54,320
And it and that's the kind of shit that I think these movies here on this podcast do

1448
01:26:54,320 --> 01:26:57,840
more than others is make people be like, I got a fucking.

1449
01:26:59,040 --> 01:27:02,320
Let out some steam on how I feel about this good or bad.

1450
01:27:03,360 --> 01:27:06,320
And that's always enjoyable to go through that process.

1451
01:27:06,320 --> 01:27:11,120
Hope you guys have enjoyed us doing the same thing as well and talking about our

1452
01:27:12,000 --> 01:27:12,720
our opinions.

1453
01:27:12,720 --> 01:27:15,680
It's it's always fun for us to shoot the shit about movies.

1454
01:27:16,400 --> 01:27:23,040
And we would like to invite you next time to join us for our movie, which will be

1455
01:27:23,840 --> 01:27:26,080
another one from 2023.

1456
01:27:27,280 --> 01:27:29,440
It is infinity pool.

1457
01:27:30,320 --> 01:27:32,240
A Cronin Berge.

1458
01:27:33,680 --> 01:27:34,640
Picture Roni.

1459
01:27:34,640 --> 01:27:42,160
It is an 87 percent certified fresh movie by the critics.

1460
01:27:42,640 --> 01:27:48,240
It is a 52 percent by the audience horror mystery thriller.

1461
01:27:48,640 --> 01:27:55,360
We're keeping it going a little bit with the opto novo or situation.

1462
01:27:55,360 --> 01:27:57,360
I'll read you the synopsis here.

1463
01:27:57,360 --> 01:27:59,760
Let's see what it says on Rotten Tomatoes itself.

1464
01:27:59,760 --> 01:28:04,240
While staying at an isolated island resort, James and M are enjoying a perfect vacation

1465
01:28:04,240 --> 01:28:09,040
of pre-steam beaches, exceptional staff and soaking up the sun.

1466
01:28:09,680 --> 01:28:15,040
But guided by the seductive and mysterious Gabby, they venture outside the resort grounds

1467
01:28:15,040 --> 01:28:20,480
and find themselves in a culture filled with violent violence, hedonism and untold horror.

1468
01:28:20,480 --> 01:28:21,360
Oh God.

1469
01:28:21,360 --> 01:28:25,760
A tragic accident leaves them facing a zero tolerance policy for crime.

1470
01:28:25,760 --> 01:28:29,680
Either you'll be executed or if you're not, you'll be executed.

1471
01:28:29,680 --> 01:28:34,000
If you're rich enough to afford it, you can watch yourself die instead.

1472
01:28:34,000 --> 01:28:35,120
Let's see what it's about.

1473
01:28:35,120 --> 01:28:35,920
Whoa.

1474
01:28:35,920 --> 01:28:36,960
We'll find out.

1475
01:28:36,960 --> 01:28:39,520
I already feel like I didn't even want to know that.

1476
01:28:39,520 --> 01:28:43,600
You'd probably be good just going in blind and I'm excited to see what it's about.

1477
01:28:45,280 --> 01:28:46,880
We love you all.

1478
01:28:46,880 --> 01:28:48,320
Our little polar bears out there.

1479
01:28:48,320 --> 01:28:48,560
Right.

1480
01:28:48,560 --> 01:28:49,120
Right.

1481
01:28:49,120 --> 01:28:49,520
Right.

1482
01:28:49,520 --> 01:28:49,920
Right.

1483
01:28:49,920 --> 01:28:50,400
Right.

1484
01:28:50,400 --> 01:28:51,120
Right.

1485
01:28:51,120 --> 01:28:54,720
If you want to reach us anywhere else, polarizethepod.gmail.com.

1486
01:28:54,720 --> 01:28:57,520
We're live on twitch.tv slash polarizepod.

1487
01:28:57,520 --> 01:28:58,240
Do it.

1488
01:28:58,240 --> 01:28:58,720
Do it.

1489
01:28:58,720 --> 01:28:59,760
X as well.

1490
01:28:59,760 --> 01:29:00,400
It's one.

1491
01:29:00,400 --> 01:29:04,000
Polarizepod and YouTube Polarizepod.

1492
01:29:04,000 --> 01:29:05,040
There's recordings on there.

1493
01:29:05,040 --> 01:29:10,720
If you find that an easy way to listen, maybe we'll throw more stuff up on there if you guys are interested.

1494
01:29:11,440 --> 01:29:12,560
Let us know.

1495
01:29:12,560 --> 01:29:13,200
Let us know.

1496
01:29:13,200 --> 01:29:13,360
Yeah.

1497
01:29:13,360 --> 01:29:16,960
And until next time, bye-bye.

1498
01:29:16,960 --> 01:29:38,880
Every time I hear Monster Mash, I'm like, this is not a banger.

1499
01:29:39,520 --> 01:29:40,800
This is not a banger.

1500
01:29:40,800 --> 01:29:42,240
And I know bangers.

1501
01:29:42,240 --> 01:29:43,200
I know bangers.

1502
01:29:43,200 --> 01:29:47,360
I used to be in the early 2000s, ever been to Canada.

1503
01:29:47,360 --> 01:29:47,600
Yeah.

1504
01:29:47,600 --> 01:29:52,160
If you have in the early 2000s, that's probably me playing them bangers.

1505
01:29:52,160 --> 01:29:59,520
And every single time I've ever heard Monster Mash, I'm like, nah, my guy, that's not a banger.

1506
01:30:00,160 --> 01:30:03,520
Nobody ever wants to hear Monster Mash.

1507
01:30:03,520 --> 01:30:09,600
And if you play Monster Mash outside of Halloween, you're a psycho.

1508
01:30:09,600 --> 01:30:14,480
If Monster Mash has ever made a playlist that's not for Halloween, you're weird.

1509
01:30:14,480 --> 01:30:15,760
You're freaking weird.

1510
01:30:15,760 --> 01:30:17,360
Stay away from me, dude.

1511
01:30:17,360 --> 01:30:18,560
I've heard it enough.

1512
01:30:18,560 --> 01:30:21,840
I've had my fill of freaking Monster Mash.

1513
01:30:21,840 --> 01:30:24,880
We've all had a fill of Monster Mash.

1514
01:30:24,880 --> 01:30:31,040
It was a mess, it was a mess, it was a mess, it was a mess, it was a mess.

1515
01:30:31,040 --> 01:30:31,760
It was a mess.

1516
01:30:31,760 --> 01:30:34,920
19,000 times I hear it was a

1517
01:30:34,920 --> 01:30:37,400
It was a monster.

1518
01:30:37,400 --> 01:30:40,400
Nobody wants to frickin hear that

1519
01:30:40,400 --> 01:30:42,240
Monster Mask

1520
01:30:42,240 --> 01:30:46,760
1950s rock and roll song

1521
01:30:46,760 --> 01:30:49,760
sung by the vampire

1522
01:30:49,760 --> 01:30:51,760
All three of those men

1523
01:30:51,760 --> 01:31:07,760
Suck my guy