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This is getting recorded on Halloween.
So happy spooky day.
And this is going to be your last and not our last, like, totally
spooky movie, but to celebrate, we're doing a spooky-ish movie.
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This polarized pond.
This is a podcast about polarizing movies in the sense of rotten
tomato scores, sometimes critics love it and audiences hate it,
which is the case in this movie.
Or vice versa is also what we talk about on this podcast.
Those are the types of movies.
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My name's Brandon.
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This is a two hander.
And I'm going to introduce that co-host.
Sometimes we refer to him as the forever guest.
His name is James Lindsay.
Hey, it's all hands on deck.
It's a two hand, two hander.
We're each one of us using one hand each because we can do this
with at least one hand tied behind each one of our backs, but
then we need two of us and it's going to be a two hander.
And I'm the co-host, co-captain forever guest here to talk about
the movies.
We're talking about.
I like the movie movies.
I like the movies.
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It's fucking Halloween.
Can you believe it?
It's Halloween.
We're telling you what day it is on this one.
We don't do that every time we're letting you know.
We don't.
Yes.
We're letting you in on how the sauce is made.
We could be trick or treating right now, but there's an alien.
What is it?
We saw little crescent circles outside our each of our respective
homes and now we're bunkered in.
The bunker Dan aliens are a classic case of bunker Dan aliens
are just looking boiling water.
Start boiling some water, you know, make sure you turn off
anything that's going to make noise.
Yeah, I mean, I haven't had it.
Nativity.
I was going to say unplug your town diorama you have set up
in your living room diorama.
Oh, no.
Yeah, you're doing your little city building in your house
all by yourself.
Um, wait.
So I forgot to say, hey, Mr.
Co host forgot to say might be we're doing the movie.
No one will save you.
This is 82% critics.
56 stinky audience.
Pew Pew Stinky stinky Pew Pew audience of 56.
This is movie that came out this year.
It stars Caitlyn Bieber and that's about it from our previous
entry.
Dear Evan Hansen, your Evan Hansen, which I don't think we
really I'm trying to remember why I was watching this because
I really enjoyed her.
I mean, she makes this movie, right?
Yeah, she's good.
I mean, there's a lot to say about this movie, but her
performance is not one of them.
Only good things only good thing.
Yeah.
My good fellow.
Yes.
My dear fellow movie lover.
Let us recline and discuss film.
And so that's the movie we're doing.
So two questions I have for you, Mr.
Lindsay is so question number one is what is your first
one is what is your favorite Halloween candy?
Oh, so what I like?
Okay.
And then I got question number two is what do you watch it?
What are you asking?
That's out of this.
What are you watching?
So go in my bag, the thing that I'd be the most excited to
get would be one of two things.
It would be a singular Reese's.
I like when it's just a singular little Reese's cup and
that's usually done on Halloween is they'll just you'll get
the big bag and then you don't have to plow.
Snacks.
You know, and those are well, I mean, the snacks.
I've got Reese's are pretty good to those are the small ones,
but those tend to be more chocolate to peanut butter ratio.
Those like kind of Reese's minis and my Reese's minis.
Oh, okay.
But the regular just flat saucer shape.
The flats, the flats, the saucer shapes, the ones that you
would you would go up and get your mind probed in and about
the other side.
A better person.
Yeah, you know, those are great.
And then I've always fucking just love Snickers, whatever
size you want, baby.
I just love those little minis are pretty great there too.
What would say you're kind of a Snickers slut by the sounds of
I mean, that's what I would usually say when I would approach
houses was trick or treat.
Snickers.
What?
Here I'm a little Snickers slut.
Hit it over.
And how old were you when you were doing last year?
I'm skipping I'm skipping this year, but I was doing.
Yeah, that was last last Halloween.
I don't know.
Maybe after this report, I can get some Snickers walking around
this on this street.
The dark streets in Halloween just selling myself for Snickers.
That's also catch James later tonight.
That's a peak.
That's a peak behind the curtain.
But I hope whatever sins that are in my past, should I be
summoned into the skies by aliens that they would absolve me of
my sins and send me back to hang out with them for the rest
of my days is as one would hope.
So that's answer number one wins in this in this.
Oh, yes.
I want to hear what you're watching, but to that point,
it's like, so everybody wins in in this movie, right?
Everybody kind of comes out at the on top into Wanda vision,
Wanda vision sort of way.
If you I don't know if you've been like it just seemed I mean,
all the people with those fucking things in their throat
already jumping into this, but the things when they're
throw it's I guess I don't know how they feel about it,
but the Paris site that's inside of them makes them look happy
and and like to dance.
They love to love it.
The aliens love to dance.
They came up this way to take part in our customs.
Yes, we should accept them.
Well, one of my watching though, I'm trying to think
what you want because it's just been a lot of been loving
just watching movies for this podcast and making that such
an event of my of my week has always been great.
And trying to get into some scary video game playing,
I guess when doing the Resident Evil 8.
I know that's not watching, but it feels so cinematic
and it feels like a scary sort of thing that I'm partaking
in for the for the season.
I have been doing the Finchman second great game.
Love it.
Love it a lot.
Would highly recommend so far.
So far, how do you feel about it in relation to seven?
That's what I was thinking about.
Yeah, it's a part of me almost likes it a little bit better.
And I know that a lot of people do like seven more
because it is really a return to form and it is such a
owed to the classic Resident Evil experience.
And it does have that Texas chainsaw massacre sort of
inspiration like 70s horror sort of stuff.
But something so goofy and fun about this eighth one.
That's just very fantastical and has a whole like combination
of all these fantastical monsters.
And I'd still extremely scary at parts for me.
I just encountered a there's a monster baby that you experience
at one point and that scared the shit out of me.
Oh, you did that whole thing.
Man, isn't that really terrifying?
Yeah, I think I watched when you played it.
I think I was why you were streaming it and now and I watched
you experience that part and almost made me just not want
to play the game because it's but when I was approaching
that part, I was a little prepared at least, but it's still
fucking is very scary.
But yes, highly recommend all of those games.
We've talked about going through those.
I think last year we did.
Yeah, Resident Evil movie.
I'm such a history with those games and I'm looking forward
to doing our e4 next.
I've just been going through a lot.
It's wonderful, man.
It's really, really wonderful.
It's very similar in a lot of ways to the eight that you're
playing where it is much more fantastical and much more of
an adventure, but it can use to be pretty.
Yeah, and European.
Yeah, castles and stuff.
European, right?
Yeah, that was the next thing you're going to say.
We finish each other's European.
But yeah, a lot of David Fincher movies.
We love the blank check guys.
And been going through those and then I went and saw the killer
in theaters to took myself out on a little little solo venture
and saw that had a great time.
Loved it.
Love fast vendor love love Fincher and would highly recommend
that movie as well.
Yeah, what do you really fun?
Revisiting the finchees.
Yeah, you watching.
Yeah, you've been going through those as well.
Yeah, I also want to hear your handy choice.
Candy choice, twix and my what I what I've been watching is I
just had a after last record, my night consisted of watching
Silence of the Lambs back to back with Fargo.
Oh, wow.
I almost thought you're going to say like Red Dragon or Hannibal
or something.
You're going to like go straight through the trilogy.
Fargo.
Wow.
Fargo's both of them amazing movies and kind of some of
kind of similar in a lot of ways.
Very similar in a lot of ways and also because I've been
watching so much horror like straight kind of straightforward
horror that both of those movies are kind of horror movies,
but in a different way.
Yeah, way more sounds of the Lambs, but there's definitely
horrific elements like a guy going through a woodchipper isn't
exactly something that's in, you know, most like thrillers
and mystery movies, but to build up to that really, yeah,
to to shit the the nature of of what's really going on in
that movie near the end.
Love it.
And I fucking yeah, just the best William H Macy performance
for me is is in that movie and that's probably not a hot
take or anything.
He's got he's got plenty of good performances, but the
Linda guard or right isn't that a thing?
Yeah, yeah, the one to guard.
Yeah, yeah, all that stuff and with his father in law.
No deal. No deal.
Great.
You fit that in with these guys.
I'm telling you.
We're working on our on our Macy's over here just trying to
handle this.
Steve.
Okay.
I trust you.
You got to trust me.
Amazing.
I just have such a connection with that movie to because my
mom's from Minnesota and I have a lot of family members that
kind of talk like that.
Corpse.
So so silly.
It's such a silly like lyrical almost way of speaking that
is wild.
I love such a fun combination of that with the the horrific
yeah elements of that movie with all the sing song me nice
polite people that are going through it and then yeah.
Francis McDormand in that it's amazing.
I love her husband too.
That whole scene.
Yeah, you gotta eat breakfast.
Marge you gotta eat breakfast.
Marge got to eat breakfast.
You gotta eat breakfast and then it just is this really cool
shot of like them at the table.
She has to leave.
He's scoots her plate to him starts eating it.
She goes out to the car has to come back and it's just so
early and what's his thing at the end like because she goes
through her whole experience and they just have such a lovely
respectful like that painting competition.
She like asked him about that.
He's like oh yeah, I did pretty good.
I got whatever second place and she's like so excited for him
and really and she's and he's so like supportive of her and
and everything that she's doing but it's also treated very
and it's so so comfort and and the chemistry is very much
familial and yeah obviously her being but having that maternal
sort of energy is such a such an interesting aspect of that
that movie was meant to watch the show but yeah, but yeah,
I don't know so much too much to watch like movies here a lot.
You know, we're big movie guys.
We're being moved guys.
So speaking of movies.
No one will save you had.
How did you hear about this movie?
Did you like peruse it on who?
So as as I've already disclosed, I am on this big horror movie
kick num num num num num num num num num all of it and I was
so been watching horror movies frequently on Hulu.
They make a lot of them.
They have like every every is on there.
Louie they have a Hulu in every every year where they have
a baby like produce and make a bunch of content for every
Halloween.
They absolutely do because that's the business that they're
in is producing content and some of it kind of feels like
fodder, which this movie feels a little bit like that to me.
I there's clearly a budget.
Clearly a budget to answer your question though.
Yes, I saw it as a featured Hulu only on Hulu and I'm in
advertising.
I love Scaluse's tell me what you know, give me some of that
Scaluse's and so I was interested in watching something
that is a Hulu produced movie because these they've made some
good companies are becoming movie production houses and I
think it is always interesting to talk about them, you know
about the movies that they make and what they're doing.
Well, the first time in theaters the last time when I saw
the killer was the first time I saw the Netflix logo come up
in a theater.
Yeah, in a theater before the movie and that was interesting.
Ever seen that before and it has its own special look to it.
Totally.
Yeah.
And there's yeah, the thing is, is that it's exciting to see
new production houses come onto the scene if they're making
good movies, making them ethically, all of that stuff.
But yeah, it's just it's really interesting to talk about
an application in a streaming service.
Getting into the content business because that speaks at
large what that whole industry is doing.
Like you said, seeing a movie that is a Netflix movie in a
theater, I think this movie would have benefited from being
in a theater and I did have like a select release or something
like that, but it just went.
Yeah, by the came and went very quickly came out September
22nd, I guess, or like a month before Halloween proper.
I don't know if that hurt or helped it, but I'm sure it
had some buzz when it first dropped and people discovered
what the movie actually was and we're going to get into later
on in the show, of course, reviews and everything in
people's reactions.
And that's honestly why we're here today at polarized pad
is because people came down on one side or the other very
strongly and they had a had a reaction to this.
But for the most part to talk about like, you know, yeah,
Netflix and all these streaming services making their own
movies.
Yeah, Hulu is very hit or miss for me and maybe that that you
can speak broadly about a lot of streaming services and their
success on on producing their own content because a lot of
times they do want to make it for a smaller budget and hope
that it hits big in a way that, you know, they can.
Yeah, make a lot for for very little and it's it's kind of
nice, especially with horror movies, and especially with
the Hulu wean thing.
But in Hulu's case, it is kind of refreshing sometimes for
better or worse, even if it is not the best movie is like,
oh, they do, you know, they make these horror movies, but
they also make like these low to mid budget comedies that you
don't really get much of and Netflix occasionally does it
too and they do a lot of stand up, of course.
You're so right about Hulu being a good front runner of that
because like Palm Springs was really great and funny.
Definitely that one was really good and then I don't know
for whatever it's worth.
I thought vacation friends was pretty funny and then they made
a second one.
I haven't seen.
I have seen the second one.
It's pretty good.
Cool.
Yeah, there's there's like a energy and energy of those
movies that it's like, Hey, this reminds me of like a comedy
from early 2000s or 90s or something like that where maybe
it's a little stupid or or silly and that sort of way, but
it's it's you can and you can kind of read the budget a little
bit too like vacation friends.
They went to a nice hotel and they filmed it all at this nice
hotel and it's really not that many locations and with this
one, it's like that's going to it kind of bumps it up a little
bit for me to see the creative prowess to use a small amount
of resources to be able to create a story.
But then it all you know, it hurts it another way is we'll
get into specifically with with this movie.
But within the bloom housing as well, I know that that is just
something that is extremely popular now too.
In terms of horror movies of if you can construct a script
that really revolves the whole story around one location and
one house and someone either stuck there or all of the
action really taking place in one location.
And yeah, I don't know for the story really has to be enticing
and there really has to be interesting things going on
creatively for that.
So just to follow through, you know, more recent example would
be something like Barbarian or this movie gets lumped into
with prey is another who made movie.
I mean, that one is all outdoors and has like a more broader
cast and that was really good.
I like that movie a lot.
Right.
So I mean, and I bring that up because it is but it's not the
highest budget either.
You can tell that they're doing critics are lumping them together
from a Hulu production.
The critics are because they like this movie because I think
it speaks to things that I've definitely talked about.
And you agree with as well of like, well, I don't know
necessarily and please let me know otherwise.
But like the last episode we did with Danny about the Pope's
exorcist is that was a pretty medium to low budget movie.
And he did a lot for what it really one location as well.
And that can be really fun and exciting.
And there is definitely a want by me to have more movies like
that because there has been an issue and also the Blumhouse
of it all for better or for worse is like Blumhouse shows you
that you can make if you keep the budget really low and the
creative like kind of stick of it, you know, takes off and
there is a lot of just playing the numbers game.
Then there's a lot of financial reward for doing that.
And so I think that there it's nice to see medium to low budget
movies getting made more and we do want to see more of that
trend because that is something that has died out from the
Marvel effect of it where you're just seeing mainly movies in
theaters being like 200 million, 300 million dollars.
And that's the only reason that people will go out to the
theater, which to this movies like yeah, just a bummer's.
I think this could have done well broader with people seeing
it collectively together and there's just not a.
There's the industry isn't doing that and that's unfortunate
and it's hard to continue having movies made at this level
if you're not going to put them in theaters so that they are
profitable because we're just living in this weird black box
time where.
Streaming services are producing movies and the profitability
of them is so opaque.
So it really just makes this weird kind of standard and kind
and understanding in what success is in this industry right
now where it just seems like in order to be in the theaters
it has to be really expensive and a majority of the time
those really expensive movies start catering to too many and
start becoming uninteresting and we want to have like kind of
medium to low budget movies that are really interesting being
played at a larger scale so that more people are at least
having the discussion about movies like this and it is a
bummer like you were saying you know this movie coming out
in September no one's really talking about it.
I haven't heard anybody talk about it but I think if it
would have received a broader distribution and not been
controlled by a streaming service who wants just more fodder
for their for their content for their platform you know
movies like this could maybe get the legs now.
I'm not I don't want to have its pop when it first came out
and then just kind of went away. Yeah and it didn't have any
lasting power.
Yeah, it's my guess but as far as what effect that has on
the streaming service and how many people just signed up for
Hulu because they saw this movie was exclusive to this
streaming service. I yeah like you're saying that it is it
is opaque and it's not we're not sure like what that actually
means for them but to get a certified fresh critic review
I don't even know if that means anything either but for a
for a horror movie that's an hour and a half that's you know
short with a low budget and everything like that seems to
be something more in line with what would be an audience
favored in our experience on this podcast. I don't know it
would be something that would be that like a popcorn fun
horror movie that drops on a streaming service that audiences
have a good time with it but yeah critics were were more into
this one.
Then the audience and I think there were some some hooks that
didn't completely jive with all all audience members but I'm
glad we like talked about just on the horror movie.
Genre in in general.
I tend to like stuff like this to like the sci-fi sort of thing
and stuff that has like a little bit of fantastical element
to it but this one goes in in an interesting direction which
isn't apparently clear and just watching the trailer just
before we started recording. I didn't even know anything about
this movie going in. I think I had seen scrolled by it on Hulu
and maybe like added it to my list and then just kept on
scrolling or something like that but sure there's nothing that
that was really screaming at me to check this out and there's
just so much stuff out there. It's it's hard to so much stuff
out there. Yeah and it's crazy how a movie like this gets
buried right like we're talking about a movie that cost a couple
million dollars to me that isn't necessarily a bad movie and
we're about to get into an audience but like yeah to just
feel this sense of like a whole production was made to make
this movie and then it just becomes a tile on a fucking
screen that gets a little bit of promotion depending on how
your algorithm feels about you is really just yeah kind of
that's the real horror movie in my mind because yeah I don't
like is this movie great? Debatable but I think people would
have had fun in the theater seeing this. Sure I don't I don't
see why not and I think it has and I don't it's an hour and
a half like it has enough to keep people interested. I'd say
if you're locked in but I mean I think it's I think yeah we
should start getting into yeah that's it into the actual movie
proper and this is something that again I had no idea what
this movie was going into it besides just seeing kind of like
a poster and maybe like a house with like aliens that's all I
kind of I knew or like a flying saucer over a house. No one
will say you was kind of innocuous not really sure what
that means and the movie starts and in my mind this is an
introduction to everything why she is alone and setting the
stage and there's no one else around and she's not speaking
she's not speaking okay okay so that's like and I just had
this conversation with you Brandon recently about a Pixar
tier list that we put together just just for funsies because
we're like that we like movies I like the movies movies movies
movies movies movies movies movies movies movies movies and
my I had to put Wally S tier for myself because it's such an
amazing film and it's such a good example of using the effect
that this movie is using for the entire thing but in Wally it
is really the first like 1520 minutes where there is no
dialogue and it's too great effect and to this one it
definitely has a great effect on you but whether you're willing
to commit as much as the movie is committing is is completely
up to you and I am saying right now is a big part of the
polarizing reviews but at the beginning I'm very in on this
like I'm very interested in what's going on and I like that
they're refraining from some of the dialogue and it's just her
just existing in this house alone I'm already getting a little
oh or a little bit not not this again when well it's when
she's doing all the miniatures man like yeah huh it's it's a
trope now and I don't know I'm trying to very I'm trying to
think how many horror movies have this but it's gotta be her
hereditary was hereditary was the most recent one I think was
it that one that had the dollhouse and all the miniatures
and everything like there's so many horror movies I feel like
that they'll just have like a little dollhouse or miniatures
representing that's supposed to have some bigger symbology or
represent representing yeah and then the movies it goes into
it deeper or it does and and this one it just like many other
things I don't think it it's kind of weak on the follow
through or it's just there to add a flourish to this character
of her going through her trauma that which we find out later
about but that was my first little hiccup and then just
slowly sinking into the no dialogue how was that for you
did you expect that did you know that's what this was no I
knew nothing about this movie just like you um I was getting
already really wrapped up in my mind about the way that this
movie looks because there's things about this movie that I
really I I like yeah and but there there's a lot of times
that it is falling into the stereotypes of what a current
present modern movie looks like that was it was really at
odds with the film already in that regard where the
decision where the decisions to where the camera is I thought
were interesting but there's a lot of aesthetics applied to
the film like you know an after effects or whatever and it's
so just like every other streaming movie or every like
stereotypical movie made now and we've talked about it a little
bit for being in one location I don't know you got to be like
malignant or some shit where you're like whoa look at where
the cameras cameras like in the attic and it's like through
rooms and stuff yeah or like I don't know if Landon has a
nice way of like getting you into the geography and making
you feel like the house has a character of its own that's
right it's the fifth beetle yeah it's like New York City babe
yeah yeah it's like it's like it's like it's like it's like
sexy city that so her doing all of these like intricacies of
the house made me also really think like I just briefly
mentioned earlier about where the crawdad saying like this kind
of what women do when left to their own devices they get
really interested in is kind of like a marsh girls and she is
she's just got like you know marsh girl had her drawings of
bugs or whatever it was and then now you know those are way
cooler than these little fucking no no no she makes dresses
to so much so much fucking take a painting of a plant any day
yeah so that's bullshit doll houses no the dollars are fine
it's it's the trope now it's it's interesting how in my mind
how that's kind of become a weird trope of horror movies it is
open in on somebody working on their dollhouse miniature like I
don't know it just is classic now and she sends she's sending
dresses there's some words written on a page you know this
is a Etsy you're kind of yeah uh-huh you're kind of trying to
piece together some some like an online business you know
which goes into this question that I think both of us had is
what year is it what time are we in right now because she's
got this seemingly online business all by herself so her
mother died and her best friend died but she's living in this
house by herself she's got this are these modern dresses or
are these retro I can't tell you know what somebody who likes
fashion just a little briefly is it's the what she's wearing
has a lot of current modern fashion to it is because this
fashion goes in cycles and so you'll see trends in seventies
cropping up and then she also early 2000s but like yeah it's
there is a modernist to her look I think her look in general
like hers actress is great like I just off the bat
Katelyn Deaver is not oh we've already any already said that
I have a yeah any problem I have what she's wearing yeah it's
like you know the highways to jeans and and I'm trying to
think like sneakers and like a floral you know mustard yellow
shirt which is like that that yellow can be like especially
when you got it leaves yeah these like kind of like a
sleeve that's the thing them but they combine with the house
which has not changed in the amount of time that her mom
dies like is the house of the time as well or she also it's
also part of her trauma where she refuses to move on because
the big glaring thing for me a little bit later in the movie
where I've already been questioning what year it is why
in the hell does she have a rotary phone I wrote why is
the cell phones it's gotta be the cell phones yeah it's gotta
be a flat screen right she does and then I also looked up
super modern I looked I legitimately it was so interested
in the year of this that I looked up what her Subaru that
that arm a big arm legged alien or whatever oh yeah gets
burned in and I looked up the Subaru and like that's a 1990
Subaru uh-huh so again I'm like okay maybe it's the early
90s but then I couldn't understand why she doesn't have
a cell phone and it was just a lot of these okay I understand
though so let it let it details are light in this movie
it's an hour and a it's an hour and a half horror movie and
there's little glimpses sure but stuff like that is already
begging the question where and this is gonna be a driving
point for me I think throughout this is you committed so hard
to no dialogue that it hampered the movie in other ways where
some of that stuff would be easily handled in a and a
throwaway line or two or something that would spend a
little time on filling out what's a little bit of the setting
but I in my mind this movie just seems so committed to this
no dialogue thing for for not a good enough reason perhaps
the intro is great love that but past that it seems like a
handicap rather than like a creative flourish that it's it
could it could flourish in other areas had it just accepted
that it could add a few scenes of whatever I don't know it's
hard for me because I don't want to tell this movie how
to be completely but I can it's just it's you can see it just
like holding itself back and it's so fucking frustrating
because it's really cool in a lot of ways but it's holding
itself back. Yeah.
So I really watched it follows and I watched some interviews
with the director and he made a stylistic choice to make it
very ambiguous of the time period that it's in because he
was wanted people to think less about like what I'm questioning
what year is it because why don't they have cell phones yada
yada yada like all of this stuff and wants it to have this
era of this is focused on this thing that is doesn't need to
be represented by time and push it to trying to just
classically tell a narrative. But this movie is so sparse on
things that I'm constantly trying to like figure her shit
out about it because it's giving me so little of it and I'm
just like why is this happening? What where are we? What time
is this? Why is it? You know all of this shit and I don't know
sometimes I'm like is that a feeling of my part? Am I am
I overthinking this or is the movie just presenting me things
in a way where it is begging the question and I'm interested
in the answer but it has no interest in telling me what the
answer is because maybe it doesn't have an interesting point
of view. Yeah, that's that's I think you hit it on the nail on
the head with that with this movie. Unfortunately, like I
don't think it's following through because it doesn't know
what to follow through on because it doesn't have and the big
thing for me is and we're just we're just getting because
it's hard to go beat by beat with this movie because it is it
is silent, essentially silent movie. But the big parts of
this movie are her past and why the town hates her and aliens
attacking her home. The aliens attacking our home happens
very quickly. So this whole just real quick just the story of
her in relation to the town or relation to the conflict of the
alien and then how you would learn more about the character
and kind of like somewhat linear way at least you're going
through a movie giving information to the audience and it
is a little bit of information about her but very opaque then
goes right into an invasion movie then goes into another
movie where there's interaction with the town then goes into
an action movie with aliens and it just ends up like really
not letting you have those moments because it is shifting
through things so wildly. Right. So let's have this.
Right. So that's essentially essentially what I'm trying to
get at was those those those are the big things is it's
whatever it's whatever I'm kind of just the connective. I was
about to say whatever. I was about to say I didn't I'm losing
it but those three things that I mentioned of of her at her
at her house and or sorry her trauma and her past and the
aliens attacking are like the big and the town hating her.
Those are the three things that this movie has to reconcile
and yes like you said you said it goes through those those
portions and I agree with you where there is no connective
tissue or reason why also the other thing would be it's
completely sent the whole time. They don't justify it they
don't reconcile all of those things together and they don't
give a reason why it needs to be silent and why this trauma
that that she has with her past about accidentally murdering
her friend and well purposely harming her it's my it's
manslaughter folks but it does not properly reconcile those
things and it does it in a way that's a very like an enticing
enough Twilight Zone episode that should be an hour long
instead of a half hour is definitely like more of a
broader like reaching into final thoughts of this movie but
it's hard to go piece by piece because it's just constantly
begging these questions that it doesn't have the wherewithal
my answer is like where we're at. Yeah. That's okay. Let's
to reel it into the plot like we get into this home invasion
movie relatively and that part is in a lot of ways pretty
scary. I would argue that the first half of this movie.
Yes, I'm in on the beginning.
Um, but what do you question I have is let's and let's really
what did you think about the aliens in the way that they
they were fine that they're they're great. I like the feed
is the feet are pretty cool but they're like the feeds are
like little fingers and then they got these two really long
fingers. Yeah, I like that there's a little bit of variance
between the side. There's the sizing changes and I don't know
what they all mean but I like the I like the sizing differences
and then I like their little hand feets. These are nice and
how you get a nice close up of that. But yeah, I don't know.
It's acceptable because they're they're grays. They're just
like the most most like typical stereotypical kind of aliens
with like the big eyes and and those and like very typical
like eyes where there's a lot of ice stuff. Yeah, I saw a lot
of hand and stabbing of skulls and then yeah, the big one was
really cool. I like that big one. Yeah, the big one scary but
the little one really. I didn't get what its deal was man.
What do you want little guy and then it would just sit in the
fucking hallway and start doing that.
And doing these hand motions.
And then she's like, what the fuck and then slamming it with
the cupboard door. I just wasn't sure how I felt about it
about it. I was like, is this a child alien or is this an old
man alien or what kind of what kind of alien is and what does
it want? I just always just curious. What does it want?
Yeah, so that's a good question about them. I think the CGI
of the aliens is good. But again, this movie puts up odds right
off the bat because
and I understand that it's because it's challenging my
maybe like my predilections to good versions of this and I
should let it be more of it on its own stand on its own to
instead of doing a hard comparison, but it's really
difficult to not enjoy the concept of you don't need to
show the aliens yet. It's so much scarier to not have them so
visible so quickly. And the fact that the the aliens are we
get such a clear visual of the aliens so quickly into the movie
really makes it less scary for the rest of it.
The reason that it had I agree with you.
But narratively why they might have done it and maybe why it
it might it kind of worked a little bit was like there was
a suspicion and a mystery as to why and this is the other
portion I was talking about as to why everyone hated her at
town.
And to know that there really were aliens and that there was
a dead alien body waiting for at home when she like would go
into town or whatever when or when she was trying to figure
out like how to fix the issue. You you almost knew that it
wasn't in her head already and you knew that it was real and
that she would go back and then it was still there.
That was an element that kept me going a little bit longer.
You know because those two things hadn't like I'm saying
they like hadn't been reconciled and I was waiting for them
to like give you the answer and and hopefully it'd be
satisfying as to oh maybe it has something to do with why
everyone hates her in town or like and I was yeah in my
mind you're like oh is she an alien is the rest are the rest
of the town aliens or something is something already
happened like that. And that mystery gets you going a little
bit longer again and like a Twilight Zone sort of way
because with that moment when she does go into town after the
first attack and that's such a build up to possible dialogue
and possible speech between two people and somebody's mouth
does open.
Something does come out but it's not weird.
So yeah and after that James think about the connection that
she gets spit on and then the spit of the alien.
Come in the little guy or what I don't I don't get it.
I'm sorry I'm acting like I understood what the spit was
about.
I feel like I looked down in my phone to write a note and
then all of a sudden the spit meant something. Can you
explain to me what the what was going on with the spit out
of the out of the lady out of the no that I understand.
I know how to be alien at which at which point the with like
this the creature that was going into her mouth or so when
she comes back from getting spit on and then also that attack
on the bus which was scary a little bit but then it just
it was so God the whole time I wanted to be in on the movie
but I'm like why I just I need a little bit more of like why
all of a sudden now the people like certain people on the bus
were yeah most people on the bus were like this person's crazy
but then this guy's crazy.
Why is that guy crazy and it's a body snatchers thing that's
I mean that's all that is in my mind of just like these
these people are getting taken over and infected and it was
just that a mid invasion at that point and she was
experiencing it and yeah I don't know it's like it's hard
for me to fully criticize or like oh that's going to solve
everything it just needs more dialogue like if that's what
you want to do wanted to do that's what you wanted to do
but I just don't think it benefited as much as they
might have hoped that it would because yeah I don't need
necessarily a news thing in the background on a TV it's like
there's been an attack on the city and it's year 1993 and
let me tell you exactly what's happening it's there is a nice
sort of element of like oh I'm with the in the perspective
of the main character and in the element of unknowing but
that busing was kind of annoying of it would just went up
to the bus driver the bus drivers just look back and was like
what just like I just nothing you didn't say you just look
back and was like wow this is crazy what's happening right
now and then there's some people that were like oh we should
help her like reaching out their hands or something but not
say anything and then just a lot of you know alien clicking
and sputtering and stuff which I must say great audio design
the aliens are fine like they're they're solid but the audio
design was huge and some of the lighting effects of I like a
classic kind of sucking you up into their saucer like that's
fun like if you want to go into a classic sort of and that's
why they're gray aliens so it fits the whole theme of just
like yeah we're going to do just they are right down the middle
aliens saucers it's an invasion like I think a little less
mystery with that helped you to focus on a little bit more
mystery of her character which the movie should have not
should I don't but could have done a little bit more with
that you know because it had in my mind removed a little bit
of the mystery of like oh yeah these are for sure aliens and
and they're attacking and then yeah getting into their their
ship was was interesting enough I like you know yeah some of
the design stuff like
not bad not bad some of that stuff was but I wasn't super
scared but the opening house invasion a little bit.
Yeah it's in a way it's our it's earth as our home and that's
the invasion that's what that's what's really happened.
I mean this movie is just a collection of home invasions you
know to talk about again the scale of this movie that's where
drags in the middle.
It's she has a home invasion in the first part of the movie
then she goes out into town no one talks or and it's so
aggressive to me then no one talks to her like it really is
no you're talking about after the invasion and she gets spit
on and everything yeah and her just going to the town and
she does not try hard enough to be that much of a pariah in
town I don't know.
Yeah to get spit on by in the police station.
I know God I was like that's battery like you.
Who cares if he's the police chief I mean go on she was a child.
It was a child that is battery though I remember learning
about that law class about how yeah projectile.
Spitting somebody on somebody is totally battery and the fact
that it happens in the station is just so jarring and weird
because you're yeah there's so much of this movie.
I feel so weird kind of saying this but like oftentimes I'm
like why is this happening like why is this allowed to happen
what does this mean all of that stuff there's just it's so
much presenting things to you so either thinly veiled or
has no substance behind that really like is visually cool
and interesting but I just yeah left with a bunch of questions
so this next series of home invasions is really where it
drags for me I agree this is where it and that's where it
reminds me of and of Pope's exorcist a little bit and horror
movies that just don't completely work is when they get
into this rhythm in the middle of I don't know the monster is
constantly like doing these new tricks and if the tricks are
things that it's doing to escalate things are escalating
or aren't making it more interesting or adding more it
just starts to become repetitive and bland and that's kind of
this just begins to add more questions as far as yeah different
types of aliens and just her going back to the one location
that this movie has already been and so it was kind of nice
for me like oh she's on a bus new location cool oh she's getting
attacked here oh is the post office post office due to the mailman
oh he's back okay this is like escalating in a different way
oh she's in town that she has to just go back and that was
such like that's where it started to lose me in a in a big way
was she got spit on and then she just goes back home as if
she's defeated just from and it's like you start to see later
on that everyone's getting attacked and I guess or does
she realizes it then I guess too maybe and so she goes home
and starts nailing blankets to her window and stuff like that
and she starts to realize that this is more widespread of
course with the bus attack but then yeah it turns into what
the movie already was was aliens are attacking her home.
So it sucks it sucks like the other guy back in or whatever
and then the little guy and the big guy you got pop a bear
and mom and little bear leg and tiny like guy.
It's it's so funny to talk about this movie because there's
so happens that is yeah I don't know.
There's a red light at one point.
Yeah.
A little guys I didn't care for the long laid guy man and
just gets like kind of caught in a car.
Oh yes not.
That was very almost pretty klutzie.
It was like it's able to burst a hole through one portion
of the car but isn't able to figure out how to get out of
it.
Yeah.
These damn weird little feet hands that I got aren't
retractable enough for to go back in once I'm pushed through
an automobile and then that yeah and then just explodes.
I.
I kind of like it's hard because there's nothing super glowing
about this movie that I can give it.
I like the audio design even though there's no speech but
like the I like the aliens audio design and I like this
little weird creature thing that goes like in her mouth.
I was going to say there's a moment where I like was about
to flip my TV off and walk away when I was like it was all
a dream.
Yeah.
I was like it's 20 minutes left.
There's no way that this is got to this got to pull the rug
out from under me but I was a little worried I was like
they're really fucking doing this right now.
Yeah.
But I knew little yeah that little guy had some effect.
Yeah it was interesting to see that trope played on screen
because we have recently played a bonus game where it has a
similar situation where an alien affects the population.
Some type of yeah well alien as well does some yeah.
The little tadpole that infects people's minds that's part of
taking over.
I mean this movie just so poorly finishes itself and we don't
have to fully get there yet but this tadpole the visual of
it is it's cool.
Yeah you see other people with it kind of sticking out of
another throw and kind of like looking into the sky and just
like and but yeah even the budget then you can tell small
because it's like a group of like 10 people.
It's not like the whole town is just like a little small like
oh the neighbors and they're just like looking up and yeah
it feels like a quaint little local home invasion by the by
the aliens of this town and how it directly affects them in a
very specific interesting way.
This but yeah it the mailman goes after I like he does the
Kobe shot with the box that added some life to the movie for
two seconds.
I was like oh oh come back to me and then he gets like half
absorbed either and like breaks his back or whatever I guess
is what happens that was kind of cool but anyways yeah that
little creature she spits back out and then it like turns into
her that was kind of cool.
It was you see it she's like running away and it's like it's
like gets the beam on it and then it slowly starts forming
into a body.
It was kind of giving me annihilation vibes and making
me want to watch that instead.
Yeah.
Yeah that was all of that is to talk to the trauma element
of this movie right like her.
She's battling herself battling herself because the monster
theoretically goes into you and then just puts you to sleep in
the best version of the life that you want.
Yeah her best friend was back and yeah but then she also had
to deal with the trauma which is how she like it was really
weird to me that it showed her outside as the other person
after having been taken over so theoretically like the alien
takes over people but their body is still there and they're
like moving through the world.
It's one of his channel.
Yeah which was so weird to me because I was like yeah I'm
still like did she just seem completely absent like in that
control or was it taking over her mind but also controlling
her to what to just be her and what is the purpose of that
for the aliens.
Why is it just coming down and like turning people into these
things to what extent.
They really just seem yeah they're all deal befuddled me
because they seem curious enough but then they they weren't
completely pacifist like they would they would fight and
they would attack her back and they would get in her face and
hunt her down but they also seemed kind of incompetent and
kind of clumsy and and a little slow and but overall curious
really not not necessarily easily but that was another thing
that she yeah she takes out a few yeah.
Yeah she takes them down which is it yeah kind of which is cool
and then at the end they're like we're good we cool we cool
we're good right yeah we're good join us.
Kuba gobble gobble aliens baby this is one of the yeah we're
in like the more exciting part of it and I think getting on
their ship is the climactic moment that gives me something
and is a point that the movie is leading to and is attempting
to do everything that I'm criticizing and loving you know
criticism against about reconciling these different
aspects of trauma meets abduction you know and are past
everything and how the town treats her and it addresses it
all in this spaceship but just not enough and not too full
you know fruition in in in my mind because yeah it's just
kind of unclear as to what the aliens glean out of doing this
process and why they feel like they want to keep her around
I guess they look at her this would be this would be the
read right is like she's an alien to and her own society
they would like we relate with that she can help us I don't
know I don't know is that what they're talking about now
that's giving the gears.
Yeah, I mean some people.
I yeah I it's and what do they what do they get like looking
at her trauma it seems almost like that had something to do
with weighing their decision because them looking at that
specific moment in her past while she's sitting there
obviously it's a big moment in her past but they could look
at any point in her history as in her life as a person so the
only I don't know the only reason they're showing that is
because there's an audience watching a movie and that's
the big part that we all need to see but if it is important
to the aliens yeah like what does that how does that change
their mind about anything how does that affect what they
think of her and do I need to care or is it just something
that those are all questions that the movies posing and
it's having fun with knowing that you're you're thinking
about it but we arrive I think at the beginning of this
discussion too is did it think of it did it think itself out
at all or you know.
No, I mean and I think the ending is apparent.
You don't understand the objective of it you see some
reconciliation of what the movie cares about the most which
is how trauma but in relation to her and the aliens none of
that makes sense I don't know how the like you said benefit
from understanding her from maybe the rate is that by
helping her go through the better understanding psychology
so that people better but I feel like again that's giving
the movie more credit than because I think you just go
into this going like I want to make the aliens move and then
that's the extent of thinking about it and leaning more so
on really unfinished answers as kind of like like it's like
if somebody wants to seem smarter than they are they just
leave you know kind of these really generic ubiquitous
questions out there being like well what if what this and
it's kind of it's so thinly veiled though.
It's where you want some of those questions to be answered
just because you want to know that the interest of and the
like where this movie cares to tell the story is worth
listening to and I don't get to that point personally.
Yeah, I just am constantly left with.
Why what are we doing?
I get it but like why does that matter and it's a Twilight
Zone ending which I can imagine even writing it.
I know not for sure on this but it's like we want to get to
this ending but even is not necessarily a bad one but the
means of getting there I don't think puts enough agency with
her as to wanting to be a part of it you see her smiling and
happy at the end.
But it is all at the behest of these aliens who are you know
have her in their little dark lab and they get to decide what
her fate is.
It just doesn't give you much satisfaction and for me too
it's like even with that ending I almost would have wanted
some sort of voluntary or sort of expression of I don't belong
with these people.
I don't relate with humanity anymore because they have out
I'm an outcast and some sort of plea by her or something and
maybe that would be Hokey and maybe that would be she's out
of maybe that one work but some sort of way of her having
agency to choose this life.
She seems happy with the outcome but it just isn't by her own
design and it isn't.
Yeah and then that would maybe be bringing that trauma into
it in a way where she's able to address it and if in a not
necessary I know it's a it's not necessarily happy ending
it's pretty it's kind of fucked up and whatever but like
that's still a pretty good ending and there's a way to get
to it that is way more interesting than than how they
did it and yeah again I think if it was an hour longer on a
Twilight Zone episode or something like that where that
middle part of a couple other aliens that's all that happens
in the middle right like a couple more aliens attacker like
and then you know they get and that she offs them and it
doesn't really add to anything I think you can shave for even
for an hour and a half movie some some time on off it or add
more more substance where it's it's needed and yeah he too
always try to tell what a movie needs to be because this very
much feels like almost an art piece by yeah like it sounds
maybe sounds like pedantic to be like it's a student film or
something like that but it almost seems like a dare or a
challenge to be like what if I made a movie with no dialogue
rather than that idea being a natural sort of organic way of
arriving there it just is like well what if we just didn't
have dialogue wouldn't that be crazy like it just and it doesn't
add enough for me but yeah we and I find myself circling in
in the discussion of this because it is the rises and falls of
this movie are are minor and more at the beginning and and
where the middle is is that a little repetitive part.
What is there anything there is a graveyard that's one other
seat location you find a little about a bit stuff out there
that her mom is dead and you know you see her friends
graveyard but I like as a just an actor moment at the beginning
when she's visiting her mom's grave like and she's walking
away and there's just people out of focus and she's so like
socially awkward that she just like it's before she leaves
she looks in the mirror and practices waving and smiling
love that moment great actor moment especially moving to a
dialogue like that's great stuff she's bringing so much to
the table with this and then yeah she just like looks over
and smiles and does that same thing just a just how she
practices and then just looks away and discuss it just like
to be so self inflicting these these wounds in yourself and
in this this composure that you have or you just can tell
that this person has no has a very little self confidence
and respect and she does that so well which is a is necessary
when you can't speak it you got to just roll up to the mailbox
and be like I hope no one sees me and you're just like what is
her deal but then the ending shot of dancing credit of the movie
that was a was a nice ending scene and for a sci-fi little
short story sci-fi thing of like yeah someone dancing while
while flying saucers are going overhead as a this is a fun
enough little short story sort of scene I think reminded me of
a short story yeah.
Yeah absolutely and there isn't anything inherently wrong
with that.
You know it just yeah it just kind of again a lot of this
just feels like a little bit of like a placeholder plotter
does not it has an idea that's all that it cares about and
you know what there are plenty of movies that have been made
like that and it's not to this movie's discredit to be like
that it doesn't need to be super deep but it just it's it
rides a weird line that we've been writing this conversation
about you know it's not that we hate this movie or just like
this movie even but I don't know what is it trying to do yeah
what is it trying to do what is it trying to say and like it's
lost a little is it just doesn't have to answer any of those
questions that maybe you need answer just a little bit just
a tiny little bit more I'd say yeah.
Yeah but it's a little bit more yeah it's it's this movie
and the artists they're pretty much the same doing the same
thing doing the same thing I'm only I didn't really didn't
have much notes I think the only other one was I was I just
put put some shoes on.
She like walks out the door and is leaving the house because
it's like after the first alien death and she just leaving
the house with no shoes fucking shoes on you just stepped in
class.
I'm feeling good about our discussion though it's I think
I am too yeah my notes are just a lot of like I've been saying
is please I'm one of my notes is please please give us some
other people to talk to yeah.
It was I just need aliens are back again this little guy
version of the alien is funny.
Was the kind of notes I wrote.
Yeah there's it almost got into more of the introspective
stuff when she swallowed that little little creature thing
didn't stay there long and I'm not sure what else could be
done with it but just some sort of like like the aliens
invading had a little bit more like metaphor allegorical
sort of sense with her own trauma something like a little
bit more that connective tissue I think was is kind of my big
deal with this movie and then just the the commitment to
know talking was not worth it for me for the most part overall
yeah I didn't hate it didn't love it.
So this rounds us off for the or spooky season I mean to shift
into the next part of the podcast and listen to the views.
I just want to leave this though asking like on a scale of
one to five how scary would you put this movie.
Uh five being the scariest one being the least scary yeah.
No the other way.
Whoa glad I clarified.
I don't know like a two.
It's really not scary.
Yeah I don't know I was going to I was going to say 2.5 but
like yeah the aliens are kind of dopey in certain ways like
they they really are not threatening I wanted because
you don't see any other buddy anybody else and like you see
the after effects of them getting the little it's more of a
body snatchers thing where they're curious and they want to
like take over but there isn't a moment where they straight up
just like off somebody in town or something they're just kind
of like chasing her and she's able to outrun them at every
turn and then just get stuck in a car or in a cabinet or like
just have them with a miniature thing like I don't know they
just did not seem threatening to me and that's kind of like
to me and that just became more and more clear as time went on
but what would you rate on the two as well.
Yeah two and a half.
Yeah that's what I was saying yeah.
Half scary.
It's like a half and half scary.
Let's listen to some reviews from the before we do that let's
take a quick break.
Yes quick break and we'll be right back for a review time.
Welcome back everybody.
We are going into review zone review territory.
The polarizing reviews are rife here on the run run tea this
evening of October 31st is a very spooky time to be recording
a podcast.
Let's check out what the people have to say it is an 82%
certified fresh from the critics.
Let's check out a little smattering of reviews here.
A 91 from Collider.
Samantha Coley says Dever takes Duffield's clever anxiety
inducing script and levels it up with her complex performance
together the duo are a one to punch delivering a thought
provoking sci-fi thriller that promises to become a favorite
among genre lovers.
Not.
From Empire and 80 John Nugent says a close encounter of the
wordless kind.
This is a smart and splendidly scary horror sci-fi with a
brilliantly brittle turn from Caitlyn Dever.
It's brilliantly brittle.
Close encounter of the wordless kind.
Oh John you've done it again.
You devil.
From IndieWire75 David Elrick says things get harried in a
hurry and while Duffield doesn't reinvent the wheel when it
comes to the various home alone like battles that pit alien
versus Dever the spontaneous director stages them with rare
aplomb and an unerring respect for the fact that Brinn's house
represents her entire universe.
Wow David got a lot out of this movie.
Good for him.
Yeah.
I'll do maybe one more here.
From SlashFilm70 from Chris Evangelista.
Chris says while I would have liked the layout of the house to
be better established no one will save you makes the most of
the limited locations providing you can have big thrills and
chills in restricted spaces.
That's a that's the critic side of the thing you start to get a
little hint of some criticism at the end there.
Let's check out some audience reviews.
Use some one stars from the audience strictly one stars on
Google reviews this time because yeah it's not unlike this
there's not on a lot of places because it's a Hulu thing
from Grant McCaustland.
Grant says I normally love a good alien thriller slash horror
signs dark skies the fourth kind but this was not it the first
15 minutes girl stabs alien in head girl pants heavily aliens
do dance moves throw a bug takes over and then is easily
removed alien falls off house then gets stuck in car girl
goes up car with barbecue lighter girl goes to town gets
spit on buys a disguise for some reason then goes home girl
outruns alien with 20 foot appendages aliens have more
dialogue than girl girl dances the end the order of these
events is probably incorrect but I promise you it doesn't
matter what a pile of poo.
What a pile of poo he actually says what a pile pile of
poo he adds two piles in there but I created big pile double
pile from Zellian Marvel one star no one will save you the
title is perfect and fitting for someone who acts foolishly
no one can really save a fool hence one star no zero star
option in this film everything is fine except for the lack of
common sense in IQ below room temperature if it's a Netflix
series episode titles can be like pilot one alien on a
vacation to if I sulk I go Hulk three the spits town for
jogging saves you from alien five home is everything six
three hot water kettles a day keeps the alien away seven
the doctor says where did the alien go eight alien barbecue
nine drag me to the UV light 10 welcome to the community I want
to I want to watch that I want to alien barbecue that sounds
lit this sounds like a cool album to have music and then
11 you'll find smile on every alien face a couple listing
reviews from Fabiso mo coquane one star if you're reading this
take it as a cease and desist order this film is a master
class in poor storytelling whatever the visual whatever in
the visuals are cool and the attempt at an alternative
narrative is almost commendable but it is a bad movie so bad
oh wait oh I lost oh that's in so bad yeah it's just so bad
yeah and let's so bad so bad let's do like one or two more
okay so let's not end it on so bad from Martha Ward one star
it was so promising the first 30 minutes were scary and
suspenseful I was cheering for the character to run hide fight
but then I mean I honestly I think this was written by someone
who murdered someone and wanted aliens to reward them with a
world full of zombie alien body snatchers for a new life with
no accountability anti social persons fantasy IDK that's
probably an insult to anti-soesh people this movie could have
been the flick of the year but it was the flop of the year
disappointed disappointed it had potential I was going to do
one more let me here it is from Mick kids though and one star
they say horrible just absolutely horrible I can't believe
someone really produced a movie like this how can someone watch
such a poopy cock a poopy boring horrible goofy movie it was
not silly it was so confusing my cat ended up in my oven
that's how confused he was he didn't know the difference
between his own bed and even started a moating he literally
started doing the gritty while playing Roblox he started
fortnight a moating and Roblox a moating at the same time
I'm so disappointed I wasted my money on Hulu just to watch this
Grr I'm so angie Tiss made me shown my other side thank you
we're not just telling stories we're changing lives
wow and that should close us out there
but that's part of the internet review we've ever had on this show
yes but that's what's contributing to these numbers that we hold
fast to here on PolarizeBot is like every now and then you got
to do a fucking troll review because they account for part of
the score we talked about Captain Marvel I mean come on
so I mean getting a taste of those reviews
people I think are extremely frustrated without the dialogue
like that's got to be that that seemed to be like a big thing
not much happens I think some of those were some of them were
more facetious than others and I think they were frustrated
with how it ended I think frustrated with the whole
experience in in a broad way at least from from some of those
reviews I got I don't know it seems understandable that not
everyone would love this do you do you agree I do agree yeah
because it's it's too like genre E and like trying to be
indie that I think a lot of the stuff that we've talked about
wanting more of I think the general audience would be also
interested in a little bit more meat with these potatoes
and be well I mean you got plenty of boiling water going
plenty of potatoes yeah
the grill going yeah let's get alien alien barbecue yeah let's
try that try that alien meat okay
oh come on you would do it you fucking do it alien jerky we're
just going to you know fucking place off a highway from here
in Las Vegas yeah go to go to Roswell storm area 51
with Naruto run yeah yeah and we get the jerky man that's all
I want just give me that jerky yum yum yum yum yum yum yum yum yum
let's give our Numbies speaking of those those damn
Numbies. What do you say, Brandini? You want to go first or second?
If we could, I'm going to do a flip of coin.
Flip it.
I dare you.
What are you calling? You can call it.
Or I can pull it up on the googs.
Oh, you got it right there.
You want me to call it?
OK.
Yeah, I can see.
OK.
No one else at home can, but it's OK.
Pull it.
Tails.
He's got it. He's got it.
I got to get some drum roll.
It's so you get to choose, I guess.
We decided what that meant.
Your first.
Is that what that means?
OK, we did decide what it means before we flip.
But yeah, this was I'm pretty lukewarm on this movie.
I think there's.
Enough to like about it and it doesn't and it's not too long
that it's not completely like offensive, like some of the audience
reviews seem to make it out to be.
I was frustrated by some aspects of it.
I think what was cool at the beginning, beginning as far as no dialogue
ended up being a real hamper to the narrative and the overall
enjoyment of this movie being, you know, an hour and a half long.
It pushed it just past an hour.
If it was, I don't know, I feel like if it was an hour,
I've made this point before, but an hour of no dialogue
and it was an episode of a of an anthology,
I could be a little bit more on board.
But the fact that it was a fully fleshed out movie
with that being such a hokey part of it
ended up being frustrating by the end when it was doing its.
You know, purported like job at the beginning to me.
It was like, oh, you know, she is by herself.
She's in talk to many people that tracks.
She doesn't go into town often when she does.
She doesn't talk to anybody.
The alien thing happens.
But when she goes into town that other time gets spit on
and then just goes back home, I'm like kind of out at that movie,
out of the movie at that time, which I think
which I'd say is like about halfway or so.
I feel like or maybe even just like a half hour in
because I feel like I marked it was like a half hour in when
they get when she gets spit on because that was like so close to dialogue.
And I was really just aching for it at that point instead of being like, wow,
this is not necessary.
It's kind of cool that they're doing it this far.
And that's hard.
I don't want to completely hang my hat on just that being the main criticism
because if I were to touch on the positive sides of it,
Diva's performance was otherworldly.
It was it was fantastic.
The director knew how to shoot her really well
and her expressions and her face like through the rearview mirror in the car
and her angst and and, you know, rise and falls of emotion
when she had to pretend to, you know, again,
like looking in the mirror and pretending to be happy and that smile on everything.
Like that's she made a meal out of it,
but not in a way that I was ever annoyed with her.
And to be with somebody for an hour and a half, just one character
where she's in every scene, I think, yeah, that's a big,
big plus for for this movie and something where like, yeah,
I heard she was really great and book smart and she's like and dear Evan Hansen.
She wasn't bad in that.
I wasn't crazy about that movie.
That was right.
It wasn't the problem of that movie either, but she was the coolest performance.
Chris, what plat?
What is it?
He's in the yeah, that was a theater camp movie.
He's it's pretty he's pretty great in that.
Another time, another time, but yeah, great performance.
And then the design of the alien speech.
Maybe it's just because there was no other speech, but I was just like,
oh, this is cool.
There sounds really cool and interesting and worked with like my sub
on my, you know, my surround sound system.
It was like, oh, really low, low and loud and made the ship seem a little more menacing.
I like the idea of an ending that isn't necessarily going to solve for problems,
but it kind of utilizes in a way for her to.
Yeah, I think, like I said before, I would have liked it.
It was it was her more her decision, but her smile at the end in this whole alien
world with a bunch of weird aliens, you know, pretending to be people.
That's kind of like cool little image there that they knew that they could like at least
end on a bang with that image at the end there.
But overall, yeah, it was it was more frustrating and not as much of a satisfying
experience as I wanted it.
And I'm feeling very lukewarm.
So I feel like it deserves kind of a lukewarm score.
And it's yeah, I don't think it's fresh.
It's like a.
It's like a 52.
Lou 52.
It's kind of just like, yeah.
And I'm not sure if I would recommend it wholeheartedly, but in an exercise of.
Telling somebody about it, it would and that's what this movie is going to be.
Inevitably for me is going to be like, that's the one that doesn't have dialogue.
And if you want to see a movie that's an hour and a half and doesn't have dialogue and it
does OK.
An OK job of getting through that.
It's it's there.
But if the beginning doesn't doesn't catch you, then I'd say just just put it back
down.
So it's just a half hearted recommendation for me.
And I'd like to hear from the great Bantini.
Yeah, so.
I wouldn't recommend this movie to people.
It's unfortunate because, yeah, I think Caitlin, the Diverse performance is worth
talking about, but this movie is so much more concept and flash over substance.
It's.
Long story.
Flash over substance, it's.
Library technology platform fodder, unfortunately, I would love.
I love the fact that this movie got made to a degree.
And again, I like the performance.
Ever.
But.
This isn't going to save anything.
It's not going to persuade people on anything.
It doesn't have an interest.
Like it's point of view is sparse and so difficult to recommend.
So for my score, since I wouldn't really recommend this movie, you know what?
I really do want to give enough, like I just said, credit to the movie.
I'm going to go a 49% is where I'm at.
Is a 49er.
49er.
Well done.
Well done podcast.
Well done, brandini James.
Steady spank you, help you help her 10.
It's been enjoyable talking about this movie.
And if I haven't already said it, I do think this is right in our alley of this podcast of
inciting a reaction in people and the best way you can do it.
And in a lot of ways is coming out on reviews on round tomatoes or the internet.
And yeah, I'll see every single movie is just.
There'll be one person that will say.
I never write reviews, but this movie made me write my first review here it is.
And it and that's the kind of shit that I think these movies here on this podcast do
more than others is make people be like, I got a fucking.
Let out some steam on how I feel about this good or bad.
And that's always enjoyable to go through that process.
Hope you guys have enjoyed us doing the same thing as well and talking about our
our opinions.
It's it's always fun for us to shoot the shit about movies.
And we would like to invite you next time to join us for our movie, which will be
another one from 2023.
It is infinity pool.
A Cronin Berge.
Picture Roni.
It is an 87 percent certified fresh movie by the critics.
It is a 52 percent by the audience horror mystery thriller.
We're keeping it going a little bit with the opto novo or situation.
I'll read you the synopsis here.
Let's see what it says on Rotten Tomatoes itself.
While staying at an isolated island resort, James and M are enjoying a perfect vacation
of pre-steam beaches, exceptional staff and soaking up the sun.
But guided by the seductive and mysterious Gabby, they venture outside the resort grounds
and find themselves in a culture filled with violent violence, hedonism and untold horror.
Oh God.
A tragic accident leaves them facing a zero tolerance policy for crime.
Either you'll be executed or if you're not, you'll be executed.
If you're rich enough to afford it, you can watch yourself die instead.
Let's see what it's about.
Whoa.
We'll find out.
I already feel like I didn't even want to know that.
You'd probably be good just going in blind and I'm excited to see what it's about.
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And until next time, bye-bye.
Every time I hear Monster Mash, I'm like, this is not a banger.
This is not a banger.
And I know bangers.
I know bangers.
I used to be in the early 2000s, ever been to Canada.
Yeah.
If you have in the early 2000s, that's probably me playing them bangers.
And every single time I've ever heard Monster Mash, I'm like, nah, my guy, that's not a banger.
Nobody ever wants to hear Monster Mash.
And if you play Monster Mash outside of Halloween, you're a psycho.
If Monster Mash has ever made a playlist that's not for Halloween, you're weird.
You're freaking weird.
Stay away from me, dude.
I've heard it enough.
I've had my fill of freaking Monster Mash.
We've all had a fill of Monster Mash.
It was a mess, it was a mess, it was a mess, it was a mess, it was a mess.
It was a mess.
19,000 times I hear it was a
It was a monster.
Nobody wants to frickin hear that
Monster Mask
1950s rock and roll song
sung by the vampire
All three of those men
Suck my guy