Hello, everybody. Welcome to the Polarize podcast. I'm your Polarize podcast host, sometimes
the forever, sometimes always the forever guest, James. Hello. Welcome to another riveting,
horrific episode of the podcast where we talk about polarizing movies according to
random tomatoes. This one is the Pope's Exorcist. One Pope's Exorcist by the name of what is
a Gabriel, a Marth, or a Russell Crow. It is rated 49% by the critics and 81% by the
audiences. They are divided. They can't make up their minds about it. They keep on tussling
like the great tussle of good and evil that happens every day in the floors beneath us.
If you get the chance, everyone, please check under your floorboards because there might
just be an ancient site of inquisition happening just below you and you never know. It could
be a gas leak or it could be and one never expects it. The Spanish Inquisition. I had
to do a Monty Python. I had to. Now, I know you may be wondering who is this guy? It's
James in case you forgot. Is he going to be with me the whole time? Yes, I am. But is
it just going to be me? Hell no. Heaven's to Betsy no. There is one other. Nay two.
But I'm going to bring him in one at a time. For now, it is, he's the fave. He's like
an, he's an S tier co-host. Bring him in. The great brandini has come along into my
life and decided to discuss movies. We are here to excersise the demons. Can you feel
that? Can you feel that? Can you feel it? Can you feel it? Hey, hey, hey, everybody.
Hey, James. Hey, hi. Hello. Hey, hi. Hey, how are you?
One of two exorcist movies that are out. There's the other one is the exorcist believer. I think
we probably did the better one. I think so too. That one's just rated bad. Oh, okay.
It's almost fresh. It's got a 59% audience score. So we're never going to do that because
we don't do those type of movies on this podcast. We only do polarizing movies in the sense
of rotten tomato scores. Sometimes critics love it and audiences hate it or vice versa.
Exactly. And honestly, we're doing a movie where, yeah, what is it? It's the audience
one. One's got to be fresh. One's got to be run. Them's the rules. And above 60 is fresh
and below is rotten. We got a 49 from the critics. We got an 81 from the audience, Brandon.
We've been warming up on horror movies more later in our life as we've expressed on this
podcast. But yeah, within that, how are you on exorcism movies? Do you care about a good
exorcism movie? Do you care about the titular exorcist being the best one and arguably a
classic in American cinema? I like the, yeah, it's really classic cinema. The exorcist is.
And, you know, consistently, what exorcism movies get wrong is that they are so about
the demon and less about what exorcism the original excels at, which is faith and how
we navigate difficult times and how faith is used to overcome great odds. And yeah,
I there as a person. Interesting how a formula has come from that. There's there's, you know,
like the a lot of, you know, knockoffs. I mean, there's one within that franchise that
is out at the moment. It's in that franchise. You know, what's her face is in it? Why am
I forgetting her name? But it's that's continuing the the franchise, even though you could say
like sequels to that very same movie could be qualified as that too. But there's a lot
of like bargain bin exorcist movies that have come along since then. And I think there's
a formula that has their very much and that's where this movie has its weakest parts for
me, which will which we'll get into. But it's interesting how that in itself when within
the horror genre, there are separate genres within that that have their own kind of stereotypes.
I think that's just yeah, I'm glad that you brought up the formula because we'll talk
plenty about it through this movie. But it is one of those formulas that is arguably
easy to replicate, but very difficult to do well. Because the formula seemingly is so
simple is there is a person who is who has the Dean has a demon in them. And then there
is a hope or somebody who comes to exercise it. Very simple, straightforward, right?
And it can be easily replicated in all these movies. But again, oftentimes with a lot of
easy or a lot of straightforward, seemingly kind of concepts or types of movies, more
often than not, people get the focus and why they're good wrong. Because again, I think
if you are focusing more so on the demon stuff, and less on who is exercising and and what
that kind of struggle is conflict is, you're misreading the tea leaves here as to why the
original was so good because yeah, or something like Rosemary's baby that you know, that really
gets into the more the effects around it and how people yeah, like you're talking about
and how faith can affect people and where they put their faith and their community and
and everything like that. But sure, because like, I think just like with cults and why
people will forever be fascinated by them is that there's always this and it sounds
simple that you could replicate on film and theoretically make an interesting documentary
or movie TV show, whatever about, you know, oftentimes like exorcism movies, what people
get wrong about cult movies is the actual cult itself. But I think what is more compelling
and what is compelling and the best of the exorcism movies again, is how easy it is for
a person to get absorbed into a cult or to lose faith and to meander or, you know, falter
in their convictions and in their faith and how easy it is for like with the cult and
I think religion is a cult. My there was this great. What is it explained on Netflix and
they put it so beautifully is religion is cult plus time. So that is the comparison.
I will say that religion is often is a cult. But you know, I get people will want to categorize
it as a religion because cults have a bad connotation. But nonetheless, is I think what's
so interesting about cults and about religion is is that like anybody like the polar bears.
What do you mean? Polar bears. I'm growing them into my little cults, Brandon. Oh, you
little devil. And you know who started the polar bears? Who James who started it?
A little guy who goes by the name of Danny fucking Burge. I can't bring him in here.
If not the founder of the cult of polar bears, you know, I wanted to burst in doing like
a polar bear call or something like we've been trying to nail that down. I don't know
if we've nailed it. What is the sound of a polar bear? I mean, it's Brandon's come
up with it before I asked him to do it. I forget though.
Oh, so Walrus. Walrus.
That is not strike fear. Walruses in Walry. One. I tried to make it that plural, but
I guess into the polar can be anything into the kingdom every now and then. Yeah, it's
polar. It's the polar zone. Yeah. Like so it just Arctic creatures in general, like
an Arctic fox. Like a like a like a snow leopard. Yeah. Strange. Venn diagram that were that
we're growing here is polarizing movies and and polar and Arctic animals.
That's where, you know, that's the T shirt right there is like you guys need to each
get your own Arctic animal avatar and like, and then polarized with you too as like little
little cartoon Arctic. Okay. Well, you can be the polar bear and then I guess we've got
to come up with one of us. Well, Brandon's got the walrus noise. I guess.
Oh, yeah. Yeah. There's a polar bear be pretty critical. Yeah. Mr. Coming in hot. Yeah. No,
no, no, no. Well, I was going to say it like, you know, that would be a great movie, by the
way. Are you guys just the walrus or season? But coming in hot. What was I doing? What did
I do? This guy? Do me? This guy right here? Was I pointing? Was I pointing? No, I'm
doing it. You to make a polar bear sound. Make a polar bear sound. Oh, like, like, like,
kind of like more of a general. Yeah, that's a roar. Maybe. Yeah, Brandon's was more like
a meeting call. Kind of think about it. If Russell Crowe's dubbed his toe, what would
it sound like? If I'm going to be an animal, I'm going to be a horny. Yeah, like, I doubt
this polar bear's got Riz, baby. I could tell. I'm sorry. I'd be like a mountain. Apparently
mine sounds like a walrus. Yeah, get it tight. Get it tight. So Danny, how you do
it? How are things? Oh, life is chasing around inside of me like a squirrel. I'm doing really,
really well. Like we we just I don't know if you might hear some sounds. There's there's
a baby in the house now. There's a baby in the house. Daddy Danny Danny has a baby in
the house. Yeah, that's the name of my first album. First album. It's a baby crying the
entire album in the background. It's a concept. Oh yeah. Just like that, that that TLC song
where it's like, yeah, is that Timbaland's bills, bills, bills, bills.
You know what I'm talking about? Yeah. Yeah. Yes, I do. I feel like it's a Timbaland joint
to because this is the beat is really cool. But I think that that baby sound gets like
he'd loop sit a lot throughout the whole song. It gets to be a little bit much at the at
the end, but it's it, but it does kind of have like a nice like tenor that fits fits
throughout it. I was kind of wish he pulled pulled back on it a bit because you're just
kind of dancing to this baby crying. Do you think like that?
I'm into lactate a little bit like, you know, just a little like, uh, uh, I think probably
are you arguing that that was his intention to get women to lactate? No, that would be
wild. But like if you just like, it's like, he's like, you know, what's cool is Pavlovian
responses. So I'm going to throw this, this on this banger. So that way every time it
plays, you see them titties cry. Like, no, that's, that's crazy. Women are just soaking
their tops. Yeah. Yeah. Like, hey, man, just drenching those tops. That's the move. That's
the mark of a platinum record. Because if you can, if you can eat some cereal with them
titties, so, so, you know, you guys were talking about exorcist and like the newest generation
of exorcist speaking of, I just had a baby just to fold disclosure for, uh, are we watching
the stream now? What's going on? Yeah, what's going on?
Oh, yeah.
Oh, I just had a baby. Yeah.
I just had a kick ass baby. This baby is really cool. Like she's, uh, she's pretty easy going
and everything. We had her on the 23rd. It's my second. Her name is vignette. Uh, and,
uh, we're really, really stoked. Uh, things are going well. Thank you for asking. But
speaking of babies and the exorcist, uh, the most recent, um, iteration of the exorcist
that they came out with is ex exorcist in you.
Whoa. Wait, they have a movie like that. That's, that's the most recent exorcist movie
is it's in the franchise is like there, uh, it's two girls, right? Like that's all I saw
the trailer at least. It was like, it's not that maybe I saw a knockoff. There's so many.
That's the thing. There's so many, but I remember Ellen Birsten. I just remembered her name.
Isn't it as well? And then it's like two girls are possessed is really the conceit
and it's by Danny McBride and writing buddy that did all the Halloween movies and everything.
So I don't know. Okay. Well, I found Halloween franchise was kind of whatever. I guess I
found a not exorcist. Like, like it was, it like, it was must have been a knockoff, but
I saw like, I was scrolling through like, uh, like nothing.
Oh, that's right. No, this is a thing. All right. Let's get our guy to look that up here.
I'm pulling it up right now. Now. Let's get on with the name of it. I am curious. Like
it's exorcist in you in utero. It's like the craziest thing. Like, uh, yeah, it's exorcist
in utero. Exorcist in utero 2023. It tells the story of a woman who must save her unborn
child and her and herself when she is possessed by a powerful ring.
Huh? It's been done.
I was really just hoping that it was going to be an exorcist, a movie with the soundtrack
of in utero.
Oh, wow. I know. I was like, are you sure you're not thinking of Kurt Cobain?
Uh, but, but I mean, like, if you like, man, what a crazy idea for a movie of like, we're
going to have to exercise a demon out of a feed. It's like that, that is the most insane.
Like, like I'd like to be there for that pitch.
That's what we were talking about. Yeah. Kind of like that's a good going back to that conversation
a bit because that definitely is the knockoff version. And for me, that doesn't constitute
a whole movie that constitutes like a part of a movie.
Needle Exorcism?
Yeah, I feel like you could incorporate that into a movie and not have it be like the entire
focus like Brandon saying it's like you're focusing so much on one part of it rather
than you already know how that movie is going to kind of play out already like the poster
and just how it's presenting itself and everything rather than like that could be a part of something
bigger, you know.
It's also probably not inherently interesting to watch something that's possessed, but you
can't even see it. Like, you know, unless they're doing like shots in womb of a possessed
baby or possessed fetus, let's just get the terminology right.
Like, but like, you know what I'm saying is like, you know, if this shit, I know, I know,
I know, I know, I just like to blame you for my mistakes.
You just started up your own little pot down and sir in it.
But I mean, like, but I mean, like, I just like the lead up to the bait, the fetal exorcism,
because it's like, somebody's like, we got to get the devil out of this baby and this
baby out of this lady. Like, you know, like there's like, there's got to be like certain
moments where you can like just picture it.
Oh, there's like a process. We got to get the devil out of the baby than the baby of
the lady. I like that.
I mean, or I mean, I don't think you want to take a baby.
That's your second single.
Maybe. Yeah, this is like a, this is like a warmup exercise.
I feel like that was a movie.
The baby baby, another lady, devil out of the baby, baby out of the lady.
I feel like that was a movie in the 2000s or something about a woman possessed with like
an evil baby or something. And I don't know.
Well, that was Rosemary's baby, but that was like giving birth to essentially. Yeah, there
you go. Yeah.
Yeah, there was some other cheesy one that came out like early 2000s possessed something.
I don't know, but yeah, that's essentially a better version already is Rosemary's baby
and the title of that exorcism in your utero.
I don't know. It's like, but it's like, oh, we're at CVS.
Look at these silly movie covers. Oh, well, let's go.
That was basically what I was doing. But meanwhile, you know, it was another movie about an exorcism
that we all watched.
Was the Pope's exorcism.
Wow.
Okay.
Nice.
Well, no, man, I just feel bad that I just really derailed us.
No, no, I think that's pertains absolutely. And I was just thinking about how, you know,
a lot of these like, I didn't see the original exorcist before I had already seen the knockoffs
and the parodies and all the things making fun of it.
Much like I was a big weird owl guy and there's plenty of weird owl songs that I heard the
parody of and then I heard the original later because that was just my childhood and growing
up, you know, in the nineties and weird owl was such a big thing. And that was like the
coolest version of that's way cooler than kids bop. You get to hear weird owl just do
a funny version of it and he's got good instrumentation, good production. And he just changes the lyrics.
So now you have a hard time reconciling it because you still think of weird owl's lyrics
and some, some capacity. But when I see other movies doing the exorcist formula, I think
of those parodies as well.
Instead of the original exorcist, I think of how silly kind of it comes across because
it is so like rehashed over and over again to, to this point. But I, yeah, I, it's been
a long time since I've seen the original one. Truly terrifying movie for, yeah, I don't know,
for somebody that doesn't take a lot of stock and at this point in my life, like religion
and demons and, and, you know, and being possessed and shit like that. But that movie, I think
cuts through everybody to, to show, yeah, an innocent person being possessed is such
a, and then having somebody, especially a parental figure having to come to terms with
it is a visceral place to go for a horror movie. This movie has that, you know, there's,
there's certain things that this movie doesn't escape from as well. And for, for real, like
a part of my criticism against it, not to already get ahead of criticisms and everything
because there's a lot I do like about this movie as well.
Yeah.
But Danny, I mean, do you, do you, do you stand the exorcist? Is that something that you really
hold in high regard in your horror movie collection of like exorcist is like up there? Or is it
just kind of like, you know, one of the, one of the
Well, I, I, I'd say like, I think like, as far as film goes, exorcist is a monumental
film. Yeah. Like as a, you know, it's set a precedent for basically an entire, you
know, genre of horror as far as, so like I recognize it's, it's place and purpose and,
and whatever it's not, it's not my favorite horror movie. It's not my like, it's not a
rewatch for me. I'm not like, you know what I want to do right now? Watch the exorcist.
Like,
It makes a mark on you when you do see it, that you don't need to see the bunch you
can see. And then there are there, my go to horror movies that I want to go and watch
are not necessarily that I could watch this probably. This is a rewatch for me.
Oh, this is rewatching. Yes. Oh my God. Yeah. Not a better movie, but you know, I would
not be opposed to taking like a film class about this movie where we just watch this
each, each, each week we go in, watch this movie and then talk about it again. Like I
kind of wouldn't get bored with that. Like just dissecting it piece by piece. Like first
we're going to talk about cinematography. Then we're going to like, cause like really
do it right now. Yeah. Like, yeah. Like, like this, this movie fucking was a blouse.
So what brought you to this movie? Was it the poster? Was it a trailer? Was it like,
I know, I was on Netflix or something. You guys were going to do it. And then I watched
it.
So you hadn't heard of it before. Well, no, I saw it like, you know, I was scrolling
through shit on one of the, one of the streaming sites and I saw it there, but I was like,
ooh, like for some reason, first of all, I conflated it with that Mel Gibson movie where
he's like a priest or something. For some reason, I thought it was Mel Gibson at first,
which made me just as excited. I just was like, I'm going to get to that. Like because
there was that one where it's like Mel Gibson helping write like the dictionary or some
shit like that. Like, you know, I'm talking about.
Yeah. And so because, uh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And so for some reason I just was like,
I'll see Mel Gibson as a, as a crazy priest. I don't know why I just like put those two
together. But then when I realized it was Russell Crowe, I was even, even better. Like,
honestly, like,
Well, you are a residential resident, uh, Russell Crowe, Russell Crowe expert. Yes.
So that's, that is why you're back.
I proudly take that title, man. Like that, that, that lifts me up, dude. Thank you. Thank
you, King. Uh, I really appreciate that.
Hell yeah, brother.
I'm a big Crow head myself. I mean, I mean, the last one we've done Noah, we've done
unhinged, uh, and the unhinged episode was the one with you, Danny. And I think this
point in his career to see him enjoying himself as much as he is and elevating movies that
he's in and not ever seeming like he's checked out or not involved or like fully, you know,
he's having fun. He's having fun. Yeah. He's invested just enough. I mean, maybe, maybe
he is a little bit, you know, I'm sure working with him as well, like, no, I'm going to do
this. No, I don't want to do that. I want to do this. And so he just kind of does like
his own kind of thing sometimes. And I'm sure you have to embrace it, but those, those little
flourishes, ooh, just perk me up every single time in this movie when he's, he's able to
have fun and that just makes the movie for me. Like this movie would, would not be what
it is without him just starting already with, with that for this discussion. Like this,
he fucking makes this movie. Same with the engine.
In a lot of ways. Yeah. Can I, can I ask you both a question? What were your thoughts
on his Italian?
It doesn't really bother me. And I, and I'm sure my Italian heritage probably is screaming
in there. Like all my Italian ancestors are rolling in their graves when I say that, but
like, uh, I'm, I'm fucking American. I don't know. But like, uh, it's the blood is in there
somewhere, but, uh, I just, I don't know. It's, it doesn't bother, it didn't bother me as much
in this sort of thing. Cause I'm really, what I'm seeking when I sit down for the Pope's
exorcist is I am seeking camp and I am seeking schlock. This movie had enough of it for, for
it to be a good time. I wish it had more. I'm getting ready to like kind of like overall
thoughts about it. But what he brings into it is, is the fun, the fun side of it all.
And that's, and that's when I'm, what was your original question? Sorry. I'm just going
to talk about your thoughts on the Italian accent.
Yeah. And I think that just is like fun and silly. And, uh, and I, and I, and I, when I,
now when I watched like the last dual, some movie that, uh, I was really looking forward
to and wanting to like, but a little trepidatious about some of the accents and casting and
that it did kind of hold me back from liking that movie. Cause what I was thinking for
in that movie was a little bit more, you know, realism and drama and, uh, seeing a bunch
of expected more from it. Yeah. You gave, you had higher expectations on the, the continuity
and, and, and realism.
I'm in, I'm no European. I'm no French, a French man for the, you know, last, all the
last dual, uh, characters and everything. And, and I thought the performance is really
good in that movie. And I, I overall do like that movie, but it was extremely distracting
some of the accents and that and much the same way. I don't think Russell Crowe is being,
he's being as accurate as they were, you know, I think in that, in that movie, but it just,
just works for me in this. Like it's just, and I, and I did appreciate how they would
talk about like, let's speak in English now, let's speak in Italian. Let's like, they would
always preface that when they would switch languages. And that actually did bring like
a nice little like modicum of realism in this movie that I, again, I didn't really care for
it. I was like, Oh, that's cool that they are speaking a fair amount of Italian, Russell
Crowe's down to try it. I'm just down. I'm just, I enjoy that he's down to try it, you
know, whether it's successful or not. But what do you think, what did you think of it,
Brandon?
I mean, it was slightly distracting because I just kept kind of chuckling here and there
because what he's doing is, is that he's at such a low grown that you're able to get
away with a lot of accent stuff because he's just so, yeah, it's, it's in a register where
you're kind of mumbling by and large because his speech is very kind of quiet and yeah,
just subdued. And so that definitely helps with the accent, but I just think it's so
funny because like, I would forget about this movie and that's to the credit of the movie
as a whole of how much I genuinely enjoyed his performance. But there would be times
where I'd just be like, he is not Italian though.
Oh yeah, that's so weird that he's an Australian guy right now is being a Italian.
That would constantly be in the back of my head of just kind of like, Oh, wait a minute,
like he's, cause he's talking to the Spaniard guy and he's talking about, you know, like
whatever differences between Italian and being Latin and Spaniard and Latin and all
this stuff. And it's just like, who are you to say?
Right, absolutely.
You don't come across as accurate, but he's such a character and he's so like, yeah,
jovial, kind of like funny and has, yeah, just has a lot of personality with his outfits
and his Vespa is like introduced early as sunglasses and, you know, what would have
been great is the movie.
What would have been great though is if because like priests can come from all around the
world, right? Yeah, like what if he would have just been straight up Australian and
like, like we had an extra the Pope's exorcist and he's a real face on real person.
Like, I think that would like that that could have really, I mean, honestly, it would have
been a different movie.
It was a very different movie.
Yeah, it would have, but that goes to the serviceability of the accent by and large.
Like it is slightly distracting, but overall I wasn't like totally, you know, I think
he did all right though. That's what I was going to say is like I'm in the camp of James's,
you know, I didn't I expected him to do worse at it. So then when he did an adequate job
and it also seems like he put in the time and effort to try it, try very hard to like
be in that space and like, you know, I mean, I just did not see him. I thought it was going
to be like, like, like fucking house of Gucci, bad.
Like, and like it was, it was not the Jared Leto approach.
And ridiculous. I mean, even Al Pacino, who like for all intents and purposes, like, like
is like a very leading Italian American in like our in our, in our like parlance of our
times has did a terrible Italian accent in house of Gucci. And like, so I would argue
you mean that then you mean this is about the good accent.
You're talking like me. Oh, yeah.
It was like you're playing like Mario, then he was playing like both really scar pictures.
Really scar. I don't give a fuck about an accent. Just get him on the set. I don't.
He's a consummate professional. He'll do it. But when I'm body make up is doing a better
Italian accent than Al Pacino. Like that that blows my mind. Like I just like it's a weird
crazy topsy turvy world we live in now, I guess. And like, I'm sure Gabrielle, I would
agree with you.
I mean, I'm I'm I've been dead over my great.
But like, I really did think that Russell Crowe brought like a decent amount to the
table and like he has so much confidence. It kind of helps me like just move past and
move through. Obviously, that's what you get in a in an actor at his age. He's been been
through so much. And at this point, he's just had, yeah, you should be having fun.
Yeah, you should be able to do what he wants and have a good time. And it is choice to be
like unhinged and to be Pope's exorcists or just like end up becoming kind of dare I
say almost iconic because he because he's doing it like if it was anyone else doing
to be so forgettable or anything, maybe because they they would take it seriously in a different
way. But he adds a certain amount of fun to it, even though they're kind of unhinged monster
is kind of is a weird character and and all that stuff. But like a very dark character.
But this guy has catchphrases. He's got trademark Vespa. He's got, you know, he's got his old
hat. He's got his glasses. He's got trademark things like and then by the end, they're like,
I feel like fucking Nick Fury is going to come out of the fucking corner and be like,
Gabrielle. Oh my God. Have you heard of the Avengers initiative? He's just like a part
of the crew and just like I'm jumping ahead. But that just has the feeling at the end of
this movie. I'm like, fuck, he's going to like be part of like the fast crew or something
or like, you know, maybe they can link him into the constant team movie or something
like that. Yes. Him and Keanu just fucking ripping up demons and ghosts and shit.
Oh, like, I'm getting like a hand. My money. Yeah. Yeah. Like a hand crossbow. Yeah. Like
a Russell Crowe hand crossbow. It's just fun to say. Crowe bro. Bro. Bro. Bro. Bro. Bro.
Bro. Well, let's let's go through some of the movie. Hey, yeah, we're going to say something
different. Yeah, I'm glad you brought up the cuckoo thing because it was I loved that moment
so much and it happens multiple times in the movie where he's just kind of like risen the
sisters a little bit like any time he would see a sister of the faith, he would just be
like cuckoo or just be like, oh, like, I'm going to like like give him a little something
and he is such a little scam. Oh, ladies, you know, just having fun with it. Oh, I loved
it. And he says shit in the fucking like he says no shit to the guy or I forget what
like like a card. No, no shit. It's like, this guy's cool. Yeah. This exercise. Yeah,
that's the first thing I thought to him like this guy fucks and I would like to have a
sex scene with. I mean, it's a priest. So most sex scenes are going to be pretty problematic.
Probably like, yeah, that is a problem. I mean, that ends up being a our the sin. What is the
line? The sins he uses the sins are sins against us. Okay, so I forget before we start before
we get super into it, I wanted to ask you guys one thing too. I'll be not to not to
hold us back. But okay, sometimes when these kind of when like movies come out like like
okay, this or I was watching that show called evil on Paramount Plus, it's about it make
one of the main characters a priest and they're doing like paranormal investigations of like,
like they're investigating. He's an exorcist and he's going around and like half the time
it's like people that are mentally ill or this and this. But it also sometimes like
I watch movies and I'm like, is big. It's like the Catholic Church putting money into
this to kind of make like, you know, certain things look cooler and like or like, or would
they put money into like, do you think that Catholic Church funded the movie the exorcist?
Maybe not that one to some degree. But at the same time, it's like if people are scared
enough of demons, they might start going back to church. Like you hear what I'm saying here?
It's like, it seems like that is that is like a it's a well that people keep going back
to and I'm wondering if to some degree, like maybe Catholic Church will help fund like
exorcism movies or something like that.
In my mind, it's it's cheap thrills. It's really bastardizing a classic film like we
were talking about earlier, like the exorcist was such a classic and they're just like
bastardizing and finding different ways to like keep keep the train running because I
mean, who just what studio just spent, you know, for the new exorcist movie, they spent
like massive amounts of money to to get the rights to make that movie the newest exorcist.
And to me that speaks to the power of that franchise of like, oh, it's actually tied
into the original universe that has cash or that has power, you know, and I think the
other likes the exorcist movies or doesn't like them.
I feel like there's there's people like WLA that will see this movie and the Catholic
Church and be like, fuck yeah, we're badass. We're rock stars. Like they're, you know,
and I fuck stars.
Fuck stars. No, but that's
Rockstar.
At least we're fuck stars. I was like, whoa.
No, it's like that's like that. Or like when you, you know, we this is a weird comparison,
but we watch fucking super troopers on this show on this podcast and cops fucking love
those guys and they love super troopers and it's not like they show cops in the best light,
but they show humanity to the cops and they show them kind of fucking around and being
and having personality and not being like these perfect, you know, sort of things. But
like the lot of the stories would be like cops who's approached us and want to party
with us and all this shit.
And I feel like that's my comparison. I feel like there'd be like Cardinals and shit and
like, you think this is the Catholic Church will see this movie and be like, oh yeah,
they get it.
Yeah, I like I love a dope. You a cafe called that she in the middle of the day. Are you
kidding me? Fuck off. Sugar's from the devil. You know, that kind of funds dough like that
dope. Your stress. I was great for me. I love that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Oh, so it's.
But I think I think like, honestly, I think the Catholic Church is happy about anything
that paints them in any other light besides pedophiles. Like I think like they're going
to be stoked about anything that is like, look, there we're killing demons. Like we're doing
stuff that's like good for God and stuff. Like, you know what I'm saying is like, I do.
That's fair because there's a moment in this movie where he, he rate, he rages against
these supposed. There's a kind of almost throwaway line of like these abuse allegations
that were levied against him with the, you know, the with the woman that jumped off,
you know, the building and everything. He kind of casually mentioned like how they were
untrue and unfounded and all that stuff. So I can see your point there where it depicts
them as someone who was was trying to do good for the church and had these unwrongful accusations
put against them. But you know, that's another, you know, little criticism of the movie. There
are certain things that aren't super fleshed out and become formulaic where it just kind
of throws those little lines and think that like that's enough to give to this subplot
when in fact like that would do a lot in helping characterize him further and give him more
backstory. Him along with, you know, as we're getting into the story, the husband who owns
this ancient house in Spain and we never see him and never see any sort of backstory and
it has this fucking Inquisition Room in the bottom and it's like, who is this?
It's not that he owns an ancient house though.
And there's no family. There's no family nearby. All the family is gone.
Well, but this is an old Abbey. It's an old monastery. So it's like, so first of all,
like Catholic priests don't have kids or anything. How is it left to him? Who the fuck leaves
you a monastery? A monastery or Abbey would never be left in somebody's will. It would
be an asset owned by the Catholic Church. It makes absolutely no sense why somebody
would inherit. And like, you know, this would be a fucking immediately gets into a car crash
and dies right when he inherits it. I guess. Yeah. There's like a lot of story there that
you can put online. Well, yeah, I mean, hey, that can even be a bit like, oh, he gets possession
house and it's like, oh, the house is cursed. And so you so like he gets cursed and then
goes in the car crash and the demons are already three pools here. Well, demons already have
played in. Yeah. And then that's like leading the son and leading them to the house with
the mother. And so they can get the it's just all like lined up so they can wage this huge
war and like it ends up the implications by the end of this movie. Oh my God. It's a whole
map of the world and their plans. They save the fucking world in this movie. It's great.
But part of like what I love about the horror genre is like, like when they do when they
make kind of big leaps like that in plot explanation or reasons why this thing is happening. If
you're into the horror movie enough, you're like, fuck it, I don't care. And like that's
that's what I love about this shit is like when it comes to horror movies, there's something
about it. If you do it right, I don't fucking care. Like, like just give me a reason why
all this shit actually is going to happen and then make it look cool, make it feel cool,
like set it up right. And then I'm like, yeah, I'm with you. I don't, you know, I don't,
I don't need it to make perfect sense. I just need it to suspend my disbelief, you know,
like, like I, I think it rode, it rode the line the entire movie for me and I was a little
worried by the end that it wasn't get it wasn't going to catch me enough. And then the ending
fucking got it got it for me because I was a little, I was a little waning there in the
middle and that was when a lot of the formulaic stuff was happening. It got a little repetitive.
But by the end I was like, here we go. I wanted this movie. Like I want to all look like that
just to be the whole thing and just to be full Sam Raimi, you know, I wanted Sam Raimi
really to do this movie.
Once it went a little Indiana Jonesy, I got rubbed in once we were down into the, into
the Spanish Inquisition Chamber. I was like, yep, this is cool. I like this. Like I really
like this. Like I couldn't, I couldn't, I couldn't put it down after that.
Well, let's, let's go through some broad strokes at the beginning. I mean, there's this cold
open with the possession and the pig anything about this scene. I enjoyed how the very first
line that he ever says is, it's a beautiful pig.
That's the first line of this movie is it's a beautiful pig. I'm like, little did I know
that was poor shadowing and the pig.
It was a good look at the play. It was a beautiful pig. He tricks, you know, he's, he's a trickster.
I like how he tricks the devil and, and like kind of fucks with the devil to go into the
pig and then, and then they shoot it. And that's like a pretty effective way to, to open
the movie. What do you guys think of the look of it? It's, it was pretty dark. I obviously
you want it to be, but there's some, some parts where it just was a little, little too dim
for me. I thought, I thought I could use a,
Oh yeah.
Yeah. Just a little bit more, but
Well, watching it on my TV at home, they all had candles. I was just like, this is 1980s.
It's just like 1987, right? And I get it's like a small Italian village or something.
I'm like, they look like, where are they?
They come into this village and this is like this.
This is the 1800. What the fuck? 1600s?
I thought it was a little dim for me too. There's this setting on my TV that I can switch
to that goes from a filmmaker to vivid and certain movies that are too dark.
But yeah.
Yeah. But on movies where there's a lot of different blacks and grays and stuff, then
I'm like, all right, we'll do vivid on this one. And like that, that helped me be able
to see in the dark with those, those kind of things. But I hear you like, it's also
like, maybe this was like, you got to see it in theaters kind of thing. This would be
a good IMAX one.
Yeah. I'd check it out. But I think that's just a part of, you know, streaming in general
of how they produce movies and and everyone's got different setups and it just doesn't hit
the same. If you're not in the theater and yeah, yeah. And I was I had some glare. I
was during the daytime I was watching it. So that's my fault as well. You got to get
into a nice dark room for a for a horror movie. But that's where I just start to question
the set dressing a bit. But then they get right into this, you know, this ancient house
that doesn't have any electricity because they're still setting it up and all that. So
so I get that. But yeah, I was just like, this doesn't some points. I'm like, I had
to remind myself it was 1980s. And it was usually when he roll up into that on that
Vespa, which happens pretty early on too. And you get his kind of life, you know, at
the Vatican and him. I was going to say flirting, but he's just being playful with the with
the the nuns and doing the cuckoo thing is I would just like, oh, yeah, OK, it's this
it's this kind of character. And then him just kind of like dealing with the with point
dexter fucking Cardinal or just like I said to speak in English and like you're not supposed
to do that. And what was a thing with that girl in the past and giving them all this
shit? I'm like, hey, lay off Gabrielle. OK, he's written books and the books are good.
I mean, from the from the get go with the pig stuff and then into that, I don't know.
What is it? It's like a council council. I don't know. It just really establishes the
competency of Gabrielle, which I love so much about this character and about how Russell
Crow plays this is that he's so competent and it's it's really fun to watch somebody who
is very competent just doing getting shit done solving problems. And you understand,
you know, he like sees things, knows things, and he's just able to navigate through all
of these problems and go like, you know, with the council, he's a while I answer to this
person. So this is how this order goes. This is how the hierarchy goes. You can have all
of this bitching and moaning that you want. But like I answer to the pope, like what what
does he have to say about it? Like what does this mean and all of that? And it just really
I yeah, I mean, you got to love a situation where somebody is being overly vocal about
something but also just so like smarmy pieces shit and just kind of gets dressed down a
little bit is always fun to yeah, when you have a heel, this get dressed down. Yeah,
you got the healed for the for the hero to kind of show his his true colors right off
the bat and and storm out. And you can tell it's already it's even divided amongst the
council with his his one buddy. There you can tell is more on his side and is more like
they consider a orthodox I guess sort of method methodary, but within the church and within
something that has so much organization and strict rules about how how to be seen a character
come around and cut through the fat and be able to. Yeah, again, I'm repeating myself
probably but show that personality. I really makes it a turn. Yeah, a nice like dress setting
for his his character and how different he is from from his peers. What's up? Yeah. So
when you got when I first heard the title for this movie, the Pope's Exorcism. What
was my sorry, the Pope's Exorcist. What flashed in my head was this movie was going to be
Russell Crow exercising a demon out of the same. Yeah, totally. Yeah. Totally. Yeah.
Well, they kind of hint at it. I was like, there's no way I'm not my assistant. Like
if it's a pope, you're like, oh, I get this demon out of it. Like, you know, kind of like
the pope going crazy and then getting like, I hope if there's equals to this movie, that
needs to be the culmination of this. Like because that was the plot in a sense is like
really what they're trying to do is infiltrate the Catholic Church and whatever. I never
thought I would want to sequel so bad, but that is a great fucking idea along with like
their idea of what they already had of just going around the world, you know, doing adventure
going on adventures and exorcisms and every oh yeah, 99 places. I mean, I mean, this
is just so well a formula that could really be a franchise where you already have somebody
to hand it off to when Russell Crowe gets too old. Like he's already has a prodigy.
Perfect. Like, yeah, like this is going forever. Okay, so let me finish my point first and
then I want to talk about the protege, for sure. That formula of like the demons are
trying to infiltrate high level people love that church because they have the power to,
you know, they establish like do an Inquisition. I don't know what that would like.
Sleep agents.
That's that was kind of a problem I had with this movie is like to like, OK, so if he OK,
say for example, that Russell Crowe were to get fully, you know, become a demon, whatever.
And then so he would tell the Pope to do something on the level of an Inquisition, but that can't
happen, right? Well, how about even the fact that like during the Inquisition talking about
the twist school? Yeah. Yeah. What's the demon school, you know, yeah, how it already
happened like how they are like, oh, that's what the Spanish Inquisition was. Was this
exorcist got possessed and then started that whole thing? Sure. And you're questioning
what that would look like in today's age or in the 80s when it was said, you know, in
the 80s, right? Because yeah, like the Spanish Inquisition, but even that was just like, wow,
they're really doing like fucking ancient aliens with this. This is cool.
But then the thing is, like to what end, though, to what end, because during the Spanish Inquisition,
the people they were torturing were like people that were pagans and like, like essentially
they were trying to get people to confess that they were either witches or demons or
whatever the fuck or convert over to the Catholic Church. So it's like, so you're making more
Catholics as a demon and torturing the people that would in essence, support you. It's a
little, it's a little muddy. Like, we're like, we're tarnishing the Lord's name, maybe is
the biggest stretch you can make. Yeah. But it's such a badass idea that I'm like, who
cares? That's awesome. Yeah. Like, I fucking got hats off to like the creativity of that
idea of like, like their plan is to like possess an exorcist and then love that eventually
like poison the well and spread. Yeah, like that's really cool. And it also in a way,
like don't think about it too much. But no, just our track.
And it's like spy espionage warfare between like, yeah, like getting a sweet.
It's like the cold. Okay. But then, but then could just be, I love it. It also makes it
so then you can support the good guys in the Catholic Church, because you're like, Oh,
well, all the bad shit that they ever did then might have just been demons possessing
like it kind of just like Catholicism, all you have to do is walk in and confess your
sins and you're off the hook. You know, this just let them off the hook of anything as
far as the movie maker standpoint is like, they're let off the hook of all the things
the sins of the Catholic Church since the ex the inquisition.
Yeah. Because now you're thinking about it a little, a little much. And I'm sure I'm
going too much into it. Yeah. I mean, it's it's fun to do it. But like just, yeah, the
simple idea of being able of like, that's their attack method and that they have a strategy
and how that plays out could be a movie in itself. And the minute that they introduce
that as an idea, I immediately wrote in my notes that that would be really cool if that
does happen is if an exorcist does get possessed. And that's why that payoff at the end was
so great for me was like, yeah, that would they foreshadowed it. And then they paid it.
I was like, are they really going to go there? And they did. And so I was so happy. It made
me so happy because it was like, this is true schlock and true camp and like fun, silly
stuff that hasn't really been done before, even in the exorcist, when whatever the priest
takes the demon, he jumps out the fucking window and kills himself. You know, that's
that's that's how that happens. That's how that goes to see it, you know, play out a
bit more was just just a blast. But this, uh, him, you know, the this family, we haven't
really talked too much about the family. The family moves into the house. We talked a little
bit about the crazy logic of the father, but, um, this is the stuff that was a little bit
of a drag for me, I guess is like when Russell Crowe's not on screen. Yeah. Yeah. For sure.
And even when he is during this portion, it does get a little repetitive of like going
to check in on on the son who's who's possessed and doing some crazy shit going back out,
going back in, you know, uh, I almost wanted a montage of him throwing like 10 different
priests out wrong priest, wrong priest. And he does something fucked up to like 10 different
ones and like one comes out and his head's like backwards. He's like, he's like, he's
a wrong priest again. And then like the other one's like an appraisal or whatever. And they
just like, there's a whole pile of priests that are growing. They're like, come on, get
the right one. That's where things started to move. Yeah. It moved a little quick, but
that's where I wanted to embellish on, on certain things that it didn't quite do. It
seemed more involved in having those, those scenes with the kid on the bed, which come
on. Again, it's like, you're going to have those scenes, but it's way too close to the
original exorcist and you're not going to do anything that crazy different in my mind.
And it's, it's all fine, but none of it really tickles my horror bone that much, you know,
the Ralph Innocent voice. Fantastic. Fantastic. Yeah. Big fan of that voice. Yeah. Which makes
it really scary. His voice is incredible. We stand him. We've talked about his voice
previously on our Green Night episode and he's fighting against the devil in the last
one, but you know what I'll say that it kind of lent itself for a montage, which by and
large, there was a lot of the family stuff that kind of ended up being like a montage.
But the music in this movie is really wild. Mm hmm. Like some of the songs that wrote
down, I was like, we got like violent fans in here. Yeah. Gone, Daddy, gone. I really
think they just like wanted the gone, daddy, gone thing with the kid being like gone, daddy,
gone because he died in a car crash crash. Like what are we doing here, guys? Like why
are we like I get that's like the name of it, but it's kind of. Yeah, a little too on
the nose. Yeah, on the nose a little weird. And that like early on, like 80s synth pop
generics. Mm hmm. It was kind of like, uh, yeah, she sells sanctuary. If you guys want
to be done to listen to a little. What is it? The cult? Yeah, it's the cult. She sells
sanctuary. Yeah. And just like the, the needle drops were, mm hmm. were interesting. I thought
the violent films one was, yeah, that was crazy. Yeah, really weird. And didn't really
add anything or do anything and was just very much like needle drop and not fade in. I don't
know, maybe fade out a bit, but just like, yeah, I guess there was some, oh, I remember
there was also Metallica. Mm hmm. And that and how the movie presents itself. Uh, almost
if you read it in a certain way is the kid falls asleep listening to Metallica and gets
possessed by a demon. And it's like, I know that he goes into the little, the wall, he
sees the, the gas or whatever. And he sees the symbol and that's all the reason why.
But immediately after her taking the headphones off of him, I believe it's Metallica. He like
wakes his eyes up. He's like, Metallica to me. We were right. Metallica is the demons
music. Yeah. That was such an 80s thing too. I don't know. That was the Satan, Satan panic.
What do you call it? Yeah, like, yeah, same panics. A good word for them. There's some
sort of rhyming phone. She sells sanctuary by the cult. It was satanic panic. I was like,
I knew there was a rhyme for it. I just realized I'm not a child of babies. I've been like talking
to myself. Satanic panic. Yeah. Yeah. There was a lot of great 80s music in this. Like
I was really enjoying it. Like the, the, all of them were like really on the nose though.
The Metallica. Yeah. Yeah. Like, I just can't believe like that. Yeah, they made some of
the choices they made. I'm pulling up the soundtrack right now. Just because I remember
there being all sorts of stuff that was kind of good little. Yeah, it just was it wasn't
as natural as it could have been. And it really was just like almost jump cut and then start
a song, which, which can work and, you know, like change the tone, change the pace and
like edit to a different, different thing. But some of it jives, some of it was a little
either. Yeah. Two on the nose or just what? But, you know, I believe it wasn't like, Russell
Crowell is like cruising on a Vespa to the song with some good stuff. Yeah. That's good
stuff. Oh, there's really not that many songs. Is there only, there's only three songs in
the movie?
Or listening to music. Yeah. Oh, I thought there was more. Yeah. Maybe it's kind of at
the beginning. And then yeah, like the kids just really like just blasting music on their
headphones and screw you, mom. I'm going to smoke on top of the stairwell and get a cigarette
from and the the hanks from that girl. Holy shit. I know. So what did you think about?
What did you think about? Like, yeah, the, the, the sister? What was her name? Oh, I
don't know. Her performance, her performance, you guys are, it sounds like you guys are
a little disappointed. I'm a little if you on the whole family, honestly, like just,
and I don't want to be too disparaging outright, but just it didn't really do it for me. And
I'm not sure if it's all their fault necessarily either, because what they're set up for is
really the formula, kind of, you know, scared in a house as a family sort of parts of the
movie. But being scared, being scared and terrified, it didn't, they didn't portray
it for me in a way that made it interesting because I think the entire movie, the mom
had the same face, the entire movie of just pure of just horror and being scared and worrying.
Naturally, your child is, you know, in throughout the whole thing, but I just a little variation.
And then I don't know some of the, no, you're on the, you're on the money, man. Like all
of the supporting cast in this movie is really forgettable outside of like, um, yeah, just
almost everybody. I don't know that like the, what is it? It's, uh, the African Bishop.
He was cool. I liked him a lot. He was good. But yeah, he was good. I love that guy. So
yeah, I agree with you that the supporting cast, especially the mother was really a drag
because I think the daughter was kind of giving what needed to be given in that. So it wasn't
totally, you know, I don't really have too much to say about it, but yeah, the mother
and then also the partner priest was the, the protege. I don't know, man. I would just,
he's going to grow into his own. He's going to be like a Luke Skywalker where he starts
out like a weenie and then he kind of rises. He's getting some damage. He's got some battle
scars from getting his ear bit off and shit.
That looks so hokey at the end there. It was like the faked cover. I've ever like covering
his ear. I've ever seen in my life and it was like clean to you. There was no blood or
viscera. Wow. They grew clean. That wound. That holy water really did the fucking trick.
He's just like holy water.
All the time. Yeah. That bothered me that it was so clean. Like I was like, come on now.
Like there should be somebody needs to be dressing that up a little and all the things
that we're allotting for Russell, Russell Crowe for is kind of missing in him when he
does in fact have that side of him. He has a dog. He has a side that isn't fully, you
know, thrive or strive with the Catholic church and has his last confession was like eight
months ago. It's just that doesn't really read for me whether he is like has a different
side of him that is clear or he doesn't and he's hiding it. I don't get either because
I don't really get that he's hiding. Yeah. I like and if he does, it's very subtle. And
yeah, like even when he says like, oh, like, oh, it's been like eight months. It's just
such a throwaway matter of fact way of saying it. And there's no weight to that. Like it's
been like you should be kind of embarrassed to say this to the Pope's exorcist that it's
been eight months. Like he just kind of throws away the line a bit and and then Russell Crowe
is such a good guy. He's like, oh, I'm going to react because I'm an ally. Like he just
he brings so much weight to things when he's he's there. And then when he's not it and
there is a portion when it is just the younger priests with the family. And yeah, it's a
little bit more snoozy generic whorem whorem view what you would expect from a movie called
Pope's Exorcist that doesn't feature Russell Crowe and has some other no name or something.
Okay. Okay. Here's a question. So for the sequel, if you could build your dream team
of other exorcists from around the world that back him up to go.
Can you write this movie, please? Honestly, well, yeah, but I think we can we'll just
make a knockoff one just like like don't have to. But man, like I like this idea like like
a lot like I wish I could write the next one. But like I was thinking like if you had like
if we had Wolverine, what's his fucking name? Hugh Jackman. Hugh Jackman. Oh my God. It would
be a kick ass exorcist. Yeah. I'd like the idea of just all Australia.
Oh, that's a different country. Maybe he can like AI some like all the hands worth boys.
I was gonna see who played the Joker, but he's dead. Fucking. Yeah, dude. Let's see if we
could AI Heath Ledger into that piece as like the young up and coming priests. I think you
can see that driver in there. I'm just lacking Australian actors right now. I'm trying to
think of more. You really are going full. I'm bottom of the barrel. Yeah. Yeah. We could
get Kegaroo Jack in there. Charlize. What's your dream team exorcist like like international
exorcist team? You know, if this is your mission impossible team, but it's all these
exorcists for the sequel. Oh, see. So we're getting one from, you know, every pocket.
We get Lou Lou in there. You could get, you know, fucking. I got mine. People. So my
dream, my dream team is obviously Father Gabrielle, Russell Crowe, then Paul Benton, Betney.
Oh, wow. Okay. And then I would do Johnny Depp because they've come together. No, no,
no. So you're thinking of like, oh, they're like, you're actually crossing. Yeah, Meryl
Street. Oh, from doubt. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, are you pulling in different? Oh, I see. Oh,
yeah. You did dementia code already. Oh, okay. Attention. Catch up.
All right. Hey, settle down. So all right. Paul Beton. Oh, wow. Any other anybody else?
You're going to get a little Nikki's going to show up on the other side somehow. There's
going to be a battle. I would do Keanu. That would be a constant team. Keanu. Yeah. Constant
Keanu. That's you could get Edward Norton from keeping the faith. I was totally thinking
that too. Good call. I was totally picturing Edward. He like, he fits that look really
well in the. Yeah. Or you could do Robert De Niro from Sleepers. Boom. Line them up.
Line them up. So we're actually just we're just going to cross. It's all in the same
universe. This would be a way to tackle those 199 because if we did a montage of all these
different guys coming out of retirement to heed the call so they could save the world
from what is what is the devil? There's the devil that they killed in this one. It starts
with an A, but then there was a little teaser to a new devil like a new demon at the end
that was kind of cool. Let's start with like a C. Okay, but here's here's my problem is
the demon that they kill in this movie is the king of hell. King of hell. They can find
anyone as a gay as Moses name as something like that. I've heard of him before. I'm
familiar. So like, like there's well, I honestly, I really like demonology movies and shit
like that. Like my favorite. We'll talk about this in a minute. But so as the day is, it's
who they kill in this movie and they're talking about early day exercise and they send him
back to hell. He's the king of hell. So my problem is, is they, they punch too far up
to the top. Like I'm saying, you know, yeah, I guess the next movie they could fight the
devil himself, but that's honestly, I feel like a little, you know, the whole thing they
were saying is the devil can't come up here. So it says, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
So like, man, there's a power struggle now. And they're sleeping. They shouldn't have
fought as Medea's till the third movie or something. You know what I'm saying? It's
like, if you're going to set it up for a prequel, you needed to give us some lower level lackey
and hell. And then we needed to work our way up the chain. The next, next, the sequel could
be busting heads and like, you know, dragging demons out and being like, you know, who do
you work for? Kind of thing. You know, just a real beat cop.
I still think there's a lot. There's a lot out there.
What I was going to say, Lilith and fucking, but I mean, he's the king. They beat the king
of hell. I'm just saying it's going to be a weaker demons. Now they're going to fight
like multiple like that. That's not entirely true. And so I would just hang up hell.
I would just tell you that you don't want another movie that is setting itself up purposely
for a franchise. I think we benefit from this.
It's just not doing that. And really,
they're cookie cutter franchise being built. Like they have a whole map and everything
of like, here's where I understand that. I don't think the intention is to make it a
franchise. We're jokingly saying it could be a franchise, but I disagree. Yeah. Cause
it's like, I hate when movies do that a lot of times.
I feel like they said it. You don't think there's going to be another one.
I think I think how they did it was a good.
I think they totally said it off.
It felt like it was hands spoon fed to us that they're going to make another one. If
enough people like this movie,
what you're saying though is you wanted it to be less of a serious issue and like, oh,
like, oh, it's not the king of hell. It's like this Joe.
I'm just saying, I'm just saying, what I'm saying is no,
the working man's doing.
I'm saying they do the same thing that they did throughout the movie, but they say that
was just the beginning. There's much more powerful demons than this. What I'm saying
is they named off, they pick somebody at the, at the tier of demons. This guy is up here.
And if this would have been a lower level one, then you have some place to go.
Right.
Like I would just,
I have a hundred and nine places.
So a sequel needs to hit back twice as hard in my opinion.
Okay.
And so like, if you're going to set something up for a sequel, then you don't take out,
like, you know, you don't take out the right hand of like the crime organization in your
first episode of a show or something like that.
Because then now, like, I mean, I'm just saying,
I think there's a way, I think there's a path forward if they want to do it. And if
they're not, it's a good, it's a good movie encapsulated in itself. And I don't know,
I'm not concerned, not as concerned about it. And if it does come along, I'm sure they'll
find some, some way to do it. That's without, without the king of hell. I'm sure there's
other, other directions, but for what this is, I think it's, it's okay. And I kind of
like the little like, little like trail at the end, they leave a little trail, but then
they also have the epilogue too. And it's, I was able to have all those things in it for
me to not feel like they're having their cakey needing to two is kind of satisfying. And
that's why I see movies a lot of times is to know that there is going to be an ending
in a lot of, you know, a lot of TV shows and a lot of, there's plenty of other movies out
there that give you such a fat fucking cliffhanger that is never going to be resolved that yeah,
yeah, yeah, they, they conquered this one and there's so many, I see so many paths forward
and I never expected going into this movie to give a fuck and it surprised me to be like,
what are his future adventures as the fucking Pope's answers to, I want to know, and like,
who's this guy, like you, the guy got relocated to a different place and he was the one that
saw the fucking Jesus on the cross bleeding the statue and then his eyes started like,
what's up with him? He's in a whole new pair or whatever. And he's like fucking possessed
probably. So there's a whole, you can run with that. You're right. There's so many like,
and it's like, that's how Van Helsing ended. I remember it was like, Oh, this is just the
beginning Van Helsing. They go to the little workshop and it's like James Bond. And it's
like, Oh, you can, and it reminded me of like him going into the lab and Q kind of showing
up and being like, yes, hello, double Pope sexes is seven. This is our map of the world.
And this is all the slaving agents and you have to go take them out and all of your new
squad and you need to go delegate them. And oh God, there's, there's a, I don't want
it to turn into that. I would hear. Yeah. Like I don't want it to, but I like, I definitely,
if this moves from like into like a horror James Bond formulae, like I don't think I'd
like that. I maybe, but like, I don't, I think this year, right? That this is nice because
it is it, it can be a contains little thing or this is a new formula. They wanted to expand
it and then us people like it. They could. Yeah. But it could just be a single, singular
movie. And this in itself is a single movie is a new formula, at least the latter half,
which we should talk a little bit more about before moving on to reviews is it ditches
the, the first like three quarters is like the old tired ass formula of, of exorcist
of them going to the bed and trying and doing all that stuff. And then at the end here,
I feel like we should just talk a little bit about he gets fucking possessed and there's
the whole thing at the bottom of the house. And then he goes full mummy mouth like, oh,
yeah, is so fucking fun and stupid and cool and shawking. And there's like, they find
the guy in the skeleton in the cage and it's like, he wasn't trapped in here. They like
this cage was protecting him and he was the last one to be left there while they closed
it all up. He drops the match and the well and it's all full of gas and everything. And
then he tells us the story about the past, you know, I that could have been a little
bit more fleshed out or it could have just had more of a meaning of him, you know, dealing
with a past, you know, but then that that issue and then the demons using the sins against
both of them. And then these two women, one being nude and covered in blood and then and
the other and the other one for for him as well of the girl that jumped was really great,
horror fun, horror scene that was like, I didn't, you know, expect this is new, like
two priests are battling their demons and like there's like physical representation,
manifestations of their demons of their sins and they're using it against it. Cool shit.
But when the like the mother Mary pops up behind them, that's shot looks amazing. And
then when yeah, Russell Crowe gets possessed, best part of the movie, and he just starts
throwing himself around the house.
I could just watch that for an hour. And then they put the crucifixes to their heads and
they fucking explode in blood. I'm like, yes, this is all like the cheat, like more horror
like cheesy B B movie sort of fun stuff that it should have done more of. Yeah. And then
they yeah, it's it just what what happens? How do they I forget exactly how? Oh, like
it's like put into the lake or like the water or whatever. Yeah. That's a cool effect. Oh
my god. The visuals of this movie are really fantastic at the end of it. I mean, honestly,
throughout a lot of this movie, I think there are plenty of movies that are that could have
been this movie that will look like shit. And I think this director is pretty competent.
I think there was a lot of stuff in here. There's some highlights for sure. Yeah, visually
really cool and interesting. Yeah. And yeah, that whole chair underneath and shit and the
pool and the explode like yeah, they explode like they're a bag of blood was so crazy.
That was more rain-ish like they needed more of the rainy, rainy kind of some skellies
popping up or something. Sure. This was creative, though. It was at points. It did things that
I did not expect it to do and it was fun while I did it. Yeah. Absolutely exciting. Such
an adventure. You know, because I this movie traffics and going from being a horror movie
to being such a more leaning into the adventure side of it, like a lot of fighting spirits,
battles, that kind of stuff, which you don't get typically in a horror movie. Sure, you'll
have a like a big conflict at the end. But I mean, this was just a lot of special effects
that looked pretty decent. I enjoyed a lot of the special effects. I thought, yeah, the
very rainy ask a lot of combination of horror and yeah, I don't know, bad assery. Brandon,
would you rather would you rather this like the sequel to this be a video game? No, it
sounds like you're describing a video game, though. You're like it's like like a like
a silent Hill type like horror adventure video game. I mean, I'm playing essentially that
right now without you're playing a game where you're an exorcist. No, no, but like a, you
know, a video game, a horror video game that traffics as well in some of it is very kind
of that element. Demony sure, but like it traffics in two things. It goes like there's
the horror element that involves demons and then there's the adventure side that traffics
and demons to tell us the name of this or is it a secret game? No, no, no, I said it
Alan Wake, too. It's like a guy's name. Yep. Yeah, the first one was just called Alan
Wake. The cousins of like Johnny Quest. No, no, it's the brother. It's the brother of
Dr. Sleep, brother in law. Oh, really? Yeah, but he's got it. But Dr. Sleep got the doctor.
Oh, that's cool. Yeah, sleep and work, you know. I'll go through some of my notes before
we move on. Let's see here. We left everything for this and it's like, she's daughters all
mad and then it's like, wow, look at this huge castle. I'd be stoked. Yeah, the cuckoo
baby Pete Davidson. I know the kid kind of looked like a little baby Pete Davidson to
me for some reason. Funny. Yeah, they use the flare to like look into the house. It's
like, can you guys just use a fucking flashlight? But then it of course, explodes in their faces
and that's like the catalyst. But it's like, let's just waste this whole flag just to look
a little closer. It's like, just get your fucking flashlight guys. Come on. That seems
insane. Drinks cool as cool glasses and writes books. I was just like writing all the cool
things about this character. My name is friends winning the World Cup. I got prayer has more
power in Latin. I just like that. That's that's a rule. Same. There's a couple rules that
are like that. He's just like, like, yeah, it's more power. Yeah, say the one suck getting
hurry getting sucked into the bed was a pretty cool practical effect. Like you can just get
two mattresses, put them sheet in the middle and just suck her down with somebody's arm
reaching up from underneath like cool, that's a cool practical effect. Like she wakes up,
there's an arm there and it just sucks. Like that is that in that's like a nightmare on
Elm Street kind of thing too. That looks freakiest buck like all day and everybody's had that
like sleep like paralysis or like shit like that. That's easily like visually you can
immediately relate to like the nightmare of that.
There's that point where he throws like a human skull into his buddy's lap as a joke.
I'm like, okay, you're taking a little too far there.
He's like, Hey, it's a human skull that I picked up from as well that goes out of the
Spanish. You can do me follow me. He's like, what the fuck?
You're kind of desecrating a corpse buddy. You're being a little bit cavalier with the
previous.
Yeah. And the girl completely turns her head around or like gets her head completely turned
around and then she's totally fine after I was like, Oh, wow, they're actually going
to kill her. Wow. That's okay. And then she just gets up and is fine. I'm like, yeah,
at least be like, Oh, well kink of my neck or something. But oh yeah, mummy mouth. Yeah,
that was cool. A couple, couple versions of the kid and him.
I love the Russell Crowe doing it is just that as a as a gift or something. I shall pray
for Guam because that one guy gets relocated there. So yeah, expect the sequel then to
go to Guam and him to be like just having a whole like comm you have demons that he's
been raising.
He does have the James Bond thing. Now that I think about it, you're right. He has all
his little quips to say. Everybody. Yeah. Anybody gives him a little bit of information. He
has a drink. He drinks a dope. Yeah, dude, you're right. Like this is James Bond. He's
got a great case or whatever. Yeah, little gadgets all in it. And so and he also drives
his Vespa all the way from Italy to Spain.
That's amazing because they show the whole montage of him going like and it's like, oh,
he's got his vest and he's like on the dirt roads. I'm like,
he just rolls it.
He gets off the Vespa at the Abbey and he's just shaking. He's like when blown.
I just, I like, I like to watch the whole ride from Italy to Spain and then little cuts
of just cuts of him riding and then eating different things along the way and then cutting
right back to riding him, eating, riding, eating like that.
A movie of Russell Crowe eating. Yes, please.
Yes, please. Yeah, but still just on a Vespa though. Like he has to stay on the best with
the whole time.
Like I imagine you as a director, okay, Russell, you're going to be eating on the best, but
you got to stay on the best for the entire time.
It's all street food. He has to pull up, eat it while and then like go. Yeah, like, you
know, if he has to go to the bathroom, that's the only time he can get off.
That's just for the viewers.
Let's do some reviews from critics and audiences. But before that, I'm going to take a bathroom
break and we'll be right back.
We'll go back everybody. We're going to go through some reviews of the Pope's Exorcist,
a 49% from the critics and 81% from the audience. Let's see some critic reviews from the Poopy
Doopie Snoopy range.
You know, I occasionally like to pick some, some random ones on the rotten tomato site
because it just gives a kind of a look into some of the other publications that are represented,
but we'll, so just as a heads up, we're going to be jumping around here. We'll start with
Oliver Jones from Observer, one out of four, an absurdly plotted blood drenched haunted
house movie with all the vitality and vivaciousness of a 15th century corpse.
Oh, from Luke Thompson, AV club, a tighter edit focus purely on the crazy bits could
be a big, big cult hit as it is, as is it might be time just right for a 420 viewing with
plenty of smoke breaks.
Yeah.
That's it.
I guess that he still didn't like it.
Well, maybe he just was more.
Yeah, you know, you know, the problem is from Bill J. Abiri from Vulture, the Pope's Exorcist
may not be a comedy, but it does sometimes feel like a joke on us.
Now, this guy is funny.
Let's see what else. I guess I'm doing some of the bigger, bigger publications from Guardian,
Mike McKihill.
Crow is by far the film's strongest suit, preempting some of our giggler responses and
mitigating against some of the material's flimsiness.
Two out of five.
I like that he used the word giggler.
Right.
So for the Guardian, and I use the word giggler.
A little giggler today from Guy Lodge from Variety.
If this hysterical hack work has any soul at all, Crow just about saves it.
That guy's name was Guy Lodge.
Guy Lodge from Variety.
Guy Lodge.
Sounds like a fake name.
What do you hire?
Guy Lodge.
Like what are your secrets, buddy?
He gave Goodfellas a 94.
What else is he?
He's reviewed a fair amount of movies that I do not know.
I'd give Goodfellas a 98.
So fuck you, Guy Lodge.
We don't have to go.
He's done his work, though.
Let's see.
I'm not trying to talk about you, Guy Lodge.
I was like, this is an interesting name.
The negative, or the, sorry, that was the negative side.
This is the positive side from the audience, an 81%.
Let's see some reviews here and what the people have to say.
These are the people.
From Maret Gurgis, 5 stars, as an avid enthusiast of horror movies, I must say that this film
went above and beyond my expectations in terms of keeping me engrossed and captivated by
its unfolding events.
It successfully managed to avoid the cliches often associated with the genre, which was
truly refreshing.
Personally, I adored this movie and I firmly believe that it has the potential to inspire
a sense of religious devotion in viewers.
The inclusion of the Pope as an authentic character in real life only adds to the intrigue,
making me even more eager to watch it.
The entire cast delivered excellent performances, leaving me thoroughly impressed.
I cannot emphasize enough how much I love this film.
It was an absolute gem.
I can't help but express my anticipation for a potential sequel to this movie.
I'm absolutely hooked and yearn for a continuation, either based on real life events or another
chilling exorcist story from the same universe.
The thought of experiencing more of this captivating narrative leaves me eagerly awaiting what the
future holds.
Keep creating such compelling movies and I'll be first on line to witness the next chapter
unfold.
From RB007.
Nice.
They're good.
5 stars.
I know that many people are complaining that this movie is not scary at all, which ain't
a complaint for me because I am one of those people who never get scared watching a movie,
whether it is Conjuring or Exorcist.
I love to watch horror movies just to pass my pass.
Their stories, their ghost slash demon stories in themselves and how uniquely they present
themselves and I find horror movies more entertaining and thrilling than any other movies.
I also watched this movie for the same reasons and I was not disappointed.
I did not feel like my two hours got wasted.
I got a pretty generic possession movie which kept me entertained for two hours straight.
And that's all what I expected and got.
Its direction is good.
The story is interesting.
Cast is good.
Like the concept of the demon shown in it.
And their ways to fight against them.
I love these kind of possession movies with the simple and decent stories and I would
love to watch more of it and its ending also gives the hint of the sequel for which I am
fully up to.
People just dying for that sequel.
I wrote this.
No, I'm just kidding.
Dabby Daddy.
It sounds like I did that.
You're plugging your own reviews.
I'll do one more from R. Mac Dunchata.
5 stars.
Where to start?
Russell Crowe.
Brilliant.
You can tell he enjoyed this character and it really shines in the movie.
His delivery of lines is both hilarious and powerful.
The man is a legend and this movie was a really interesting choice slash departure from his
previous stuff.
The plot is intriguing with insight into a world that is scary as well as fascinating.
The possession itself is a totally new and more powerful take on these phenomenon than
seen previously in the movies.
There's a real sense of menace from the demon and the circumstances around the possession
are Indiana Jones level mythos.
This is a movie to be enjoyed and taken at face value.
It doesn't really, doesn't rely on jump scares or silly nods to other exorcism movies.
It is its own thing and I really loved it.
Hope everyone who likes horror gets to see this as it is a top movie.
Shit yeah.
Yeah.
People like really express themselves very thoroughly and a lot of positive love for
this.
There's a multitude of positive reviews here that I could keep going with but we'll wrap
it up there.
I was going to, yeah, so on on prime reviews, sometimes I like to look at six.
There are 15,000 reviews for this movie.
63% are five stars with an average of 4.3 out of five.
There is that.
So people really like it.
That is a little sample size of some of the feelings.
Some like the critics, it seemed like when they didn't like it, some of them were at
least acknowledging whether it was fun watching Russell Crowe in this movie or just the fact
that he kind of did his best to carry it a bit or they'd be like, oh, he was entertaining
in a silly way.
There was a recognition of that even from like the negative reviews.
So that tells me that it, I don't know, that's a sign of a polarizing movie for me too is
like going through some of these reviews is when even in the criticisms, levied against,
you see that kind of conversation that they're having with themselves like, oh, a lot of
people will say this and but I'm kind of, they're already kind of addressing it and
they're getting ahead of the Russell Crowe thing.
And then the audience in the positive review section, you'll see kind of that too of like
them kind of addressing the conversation in the review of like, oh, I see a lot of people
saying it's not scary or all this stuff.
Well, let me just come to its defense.
So I think we picked a good one for for the podcast.
I think it applies.
And I would love to throw it over to Danny to give his final thoughts and a numerical
value on the rotten tomato scale for this movie.
Here we go.
So this movie was pretty, I was pretty into it.
You know, you, I felt when we went for the break, I was sitting there thinking to myself
and I was like, I feel a little incepted because like, I didn't, I guess I'm a big sucker for
like, you know, the, the James Bond archetype of like storytelling or whatever, like, like
that.
I mean, it is basically the hero's journey, but you know, it's a little like this wasn't
so in your face, I guess, is like, I didn't put it together like that until you pointed
it out.
And I was like, ah, shit, I fell for it kind of thing of like, they got me with like a formulaic
type thing, but it also felt like there was, you know, you have these genre clashing moments
of like, there's a little bit of this, a little bit of that.
Like I said, I got a little bit Indiana Jones as they're going down into this like little
fucking temple and shit.
Yeah.
And so like, you know, it was hitting on all the things that, you know, made it so it roughed
out some of the rough edges for me.
Like, and then I had a blast.
Like the whole way through, I was really enjoying it.
I didn't know what was going to happen next.
Even if like some stuff was predictable, it doesn't matter because I don't know what fucking
Russell Crowe was about to do next.
And like what, and like, I was enjoying just seeing him fucking chew the shit out of it.
And like really, you know, like carry this, I mean, carry this thing over the threshold
in a big bad way.
And I think like, you know, I'm going to give a positive review on this thing.
Like I'm going to give a pretty high marks on this.
I want to put it in my like, you know, like I said, I'd rewatch it and everything, probably
like 93.
Like although cool, like, you know, I say 93 for the genre that it's in and what it is
also though, as far as like, you know, when, when I say good fellows is 98 or something
like that, it's like, I can't put those two in the same category almost.
So like this is not that.
You know what I mean?
Like, yeah.
Like, you know, I don't know what's calling for that.
This is popcorn cinema.
This is like, I want to say what this movie is trying to do to borrow a double ism, you
know, is like, what is it?
Is it successful in what it's trying to do?
And then what I'll also say is like my favorite movie in out of like the demon fucking movies
that has happened is movie called Fallen with it's got Denzel Washington, Donald Sutherland.
It's got James Gandolf, Feney.
It's got fucking John Goodman.
I've never seen that movie, but in my short stint as in taking acting classes, one of
the guys I took an acting class from said that he was the cab driver who gets possessed
in that movie.
Oh, no way.
Check that out sometime, but dude, that's sick as hell.
So when you watch that movie, it's all like there's no special effects type thing.
The demon just moves through touch.
So there's all these radical scenes with random like extras kind of in it.
But as it's moving through a crowd, each person's touching another person and then they're
turning into the demon.
And so you're watching it pass from random person to person on the street.
And it's like each person that is just randomly walking by is rushing it as like taking on
this same entity that moves through.
It's wild.
And like I would, I think if I was teaching an act, I was teaching an act.
And if I was teaching an acting class, I would show that hands down.
But like that, that movie right there is just talk about it.
Yeah.
So I got to watch it in the realm of like these movies.
That's my hundred percent right there of like demon like red on that scale on the demon
scale.
That's the, that's the, I love that because yeah, I put this at a 90 though because like
and this, this was, you know, doing a lot of different things for me though where Fallon
is like a serious movie, serious, serious movie where this, this was goofy a little bit, but
just enough seriousness to make it to not make me feel hokey about it.
But you were right.
There's some camp to it and there is some like, you know, there's definitely some formula
that they're working that, you know, if it's done right, feels like almost an homage to
things instead of just like a formula.
And so it's, it's getting to watch this guy doing, treating it with respect and doing
something that has been done before different.
And that's, that's what I got out of it.
And I think that, you know, I would love to see another one.
Also my dream team for real of other exorcists for the sequel, I would want, yeah, like I
said, Hugh Jackman.
Yes.
Then I want Morpheus in there.
I want Lawrence, Lawrence Fish, Larry Fish Lawrence, I would love to get a, a forest
Whitaker in there.
That'd be pretty cool.
That'd be a great exorcist.
Then he would be a great exorcist.
He would.
Yeah.
And then give me, give me, give me, let me see.
Okay.
Well, I'm told.
Why do you think about that?
No, no, no, I've got it.
I've got it.
I want, I want a Hannibal Lecter.
I want, I want Tony Hopkins.
You played a Pope.
Oh, I already know Anthony Hopkins.
Yeah.
Like that's who I want.
That's almost who I expected.
I knew it wasn't going to be the case.
Patrick Stewart.
Patty Stewart to round it out.
And maybe he just sits in the office and kind of, you know, like a professor X is like,
he's just like, go out and get him, you know, kind of thing.
But he battles the demons with his mind.
I don't know.
Maybe he's just Professor X.
How about Clint Eastwood?
I think he's going to do a crossover.
Clint Eastwood would be, I like it.
I don't know.
I mean, honestly, I just watched a movie that he directed in 1990 with him and Charlie
Sheen and I was like, he doesn't have it in him right here.
Like, but, but then like he's made some great shit after that, obviously, but he's, I feel
like he, uh, he fades in and out of greatness.
Oh, we got to get young, sexy Jude Law Pope in there too, Brandon.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, young sexy.
That's what we got.
Yeah.
And then two posts.
Jonathan Price.
If you're going to get Tony Hopkins and Jonathan Price, the two popes, they're like a tag team.
George Carlin as the Cardinal from Cardinal Glick from dogma.
And that's it.
Then that's it.
Brandon, what do you think about this movie?
Thank you for asking, James.
So there's a huge part of me that just stands what this movie kind of represents because
this is a movie that was made on an $18 million budget.
So nothing big, but really just kind of sticks to what the objective is.
Even to the, like there was a note that I had here where it was like, I'm locked in right
now.
Objective is established rules are set.
Let's get this going.
And I just got to give the movie so much credit for doing that.
And it's, it's fun.
Like by and large, it's a thrilling, exciting movie.
Sure, I wish that the cast of characters outside of Russell Crowe were better, but I
at the end of the day, like this is such a, it's such a fun watch.
It's a relatively easy watch.
I would recommend it to people.
I honestly want more movies like this, maybe not about this subject matter, but like what
it's trying to do to be an action movie at $18 million and do what it's doing here.
I dig it.
There's so much cool special effects.
A lot of, there's even a battle in this.
I mean, so, so great.
So yeah, I think I'm going to go.
Go 80.
Hail, yeah.
I'm going to go 80.
Hell yeah.
I love it.
I love that.
We found something that I feel like we're overall on the same page on this discussion about.
And it's fun when we disagree as, as well, but going through this, this podcast and picking
movies that everyone is so divisive on it is kind of nice to just feel like you come to
a level idea about how you feel about something.
And that's kind of been my favorite thing about one of my favorite things about doing
this podcast is those discussions of like, I feel like I understand how I, how I feel
about it better.
And then also getting a new perspective from you guys.
And for this movie, I feel like I've expressed myself plenty on this episode of the things
that I like the most are obviously Russell Crowe's performance.
Just wonderful.
And I would not even care to check this movie out if he wasn't in it.
I don't, I don't think maybe there's a part of me that sees that title.
And when I see that title, I do think that the Pope is going to be the one that's getting
the exorcism.
But even this, this is cool too.
Oh, it's the Pope's exorcist.
Oh, okay.
Well, that's also a fun idea.
Him at the beginning, right around his Vespa interacting with, with other priests and everything.
Golden.
All that stuff is, is just golden.
All the stuff with the family, not so much.
That stuff is, is where the formula generic kind of formulaic sort of stuff of like a
family second to spooky house.
Weird things are happening.
Kid gets possessed and the performances all around maybe suffer from that as well because
they're not, they're not the best.
When Russell Crowe comes into the picture and he interacts with everything, his character
starts to come out more.
I'm kind of back on again, but it is a lot of going in and out, in and out.
And then when they get to the bottom with all the inquisition stuff, that's where, you
know, things really start to pick up and I'm fully on board when he gets possessed.
That final like scene of them like coming into the room, I was like a little bit like,
this is, this is the final scene of every fucking exorcism movie.
I was honestly a little bit of like starting to eject a little bit out of my feelings for
it.
Cause I was like, oh, it's like the big, the big show down or whatever.
But then to see him get possessed, get out and then you're, starts like hitting the
walls and like throwing around.
And then like the whole show down in the, in the basement, the cellar, whatever, all
that stuff had the best cinematic elements, had the most schlock, had the most camp, had
the, had the most fun and kind of out of control stuff where I didn't know what was going to
happen where I felt like I was, the rest of the movie was pretty predictable.
That final, final portion just like launched me back on, on board with this movie right
up until the end where I was like, I want to see, I can have all these other ideas about
where this movie is talking about, like all these sequel ideas that like I would be totally
down for.
And I question how much that has to do with just the charisma of, of Russell Crowe, those
eyes and like he's got a bigger face now and that big bushy beard and all that stuff, but
those eyes have so much going on there.
There's like a real trickster quality to him that is, is fun and silly.
Um, I'm, I'm probably not going to, it's hard because I feel like I'm speaking glowing,
but I, there's a real portion of this in the middle that was just like, like I was saying,
not my favorite.
So that's why I'm going to probably go a little bit lower than you guys in the, in the 70
range.
I'll do a 74.
Um, because yeah, I think it, it really took that for it to pick up at the end for me to
be back on board and the middle crown was a little, little iffy, but overall I would
recommend it.
I would see a sequel.
I would watch it again.
I would fucking watch it again, especially knowing that the ending was coming in.
I think that helps in a lot of horror movies and thrillers for general is just like the
as you know, one Gabriel Gabriel, I would say the theatricality of it, you know, this movie
has a nice theatrical, theatrical sort of soapy side to it.
And also like a, yeah, they want to build this lore out with like these papers and all
this mystery.
It just, there's a lot to have fun with and easy recommend, easy, much better time than
splice for sure.
So yeah, let's, let's move on from, from splice and into the Pope's exorcist of them all.
I'm excited to see what his next project is and we'll be there for it.
I think I wonder, I'm curious about that poker movie.
I think that one might be polarizing.
We can have that back for, for Danny, if he wants to keep on going with it.
Yeah.
It was a Russell Crow poker movie.
I think he directed it as, as well, but I'm not sure of the, of the ratings.
I'm just curious now that I'm thinking of it.
And then drop induces.
Oh, wow.
It's a 9% by critics and a 36% by audience.
So we will not be, we will not be doing it on this podcast, but that's a big enough gap.
No, what I would like to do is do a little segment, do a little game.
Yeah.
If you guys got, got some time for a fun little game of, I like to call it review blitz and
this version is going to be the Russell Crow review blitz version of the game in which I
will pick a movie and it's up to you to, to figure out what this movie is.
And the way that you're going to find out is I'm going to give you reviews from critics
and audiences.
And with those clues that you glean from the reviews, you try to guess what this movie
is.
I'm going to read a review.
They're all Russell Crow movies.
That's the hint.
Yeah.
Cause I think last time I'm trying to figure out a way to hone it in a bit.
So this should give a big enough hint for all these movies, Russell Crow's and them.
And I'm going to do a critic review, then audience review and back and forth, back and
forth until you guys get it.
Just buzzing.
I'm going to do the, the buzzing system.
So just buzzing.
If you think you got it.
And then I just want to give you guys unlimited tries really, or should we do turns?
What would be, I'm, I should have figured this out.
I say buzz in, just buzz in.
Buzz in.
And then if someone buzzes in, gets it wrong, then I guess the next person can get advantage
or something can go first next time or something.
Okay.
So let's start with a critic review of this Russell Crow movie from Keith Garlington at
Keith and in the movies, a critic.
The flawless ensemble, the masterfully written story, the vibrant yet gritty version, vision
of 1950s LA.
Most of it.
Yes.
LA confidential.
Yeah.
I guess the 50s LA thing was pretty clear, but yeah, you got it.
One to Danny.
All right.
I'm, how many do I got here?
I think we'll do.
Come and actually Brandon.
Yeah.
I'm going to do three out of five for, for feeling it.
So let's go on to the next movie.
Let's start with the audience on this one and then we'll go back to critics.
Let's see.
There's a.
Yes.
Okay.
From Sifrin, five stars.
Every time I watch this movie, I end up in tears.
One of the best movies ever produced caused me to second guess everything I had previously
seen do recommend.
That's pretty vague.
Yeah, I don't know.
Okay.
I'll do any.
I was starting pretty vague.
We'll get more granular.
We'll go to critics.
Let's see.
We will pick.
Wait, where did it just go?
Brian Miller from Seattle Weekly as competent affecting biopics go biopics.
You won't win any prizes, but you've urine buzz.
It's mine.
I think I was going to say too.
Yeah, but I think it was branded, but it was almost is very close.
Very close.
Yeah.
The buzz.
Well done.
All right.
This is going better.
We got a tie.
Tie a ballgame.
Let's move on to the next one.
We'll start with a critic review.
Let's see if I can find one that's a little bit more vague so that you don't get it immediately.
Yeah, that can make it probably pretty tough.
Yeah, you probably guys are probably going to get so be ready to buzz.
This one's going to be a little tougher.
All right, from Bill Muller, Arizona Republic.
The new film has spectacular fight scenes and dazzling sets and a familiar.
Yes.
Gladiator.
Yes, gladiator.
I mean fights.
I said fight scenes.
So yeah, right.
I was just like what's probably the most.
Yeah, yeah.
Like that was a that was educated.
That was a shot in the dark though.
He's been in other ones that you know, he's fought in them.
All right, we're going to go on to the next one to one Danny.
Let's switch over to audience reviews.
Just checking out here.
It's from ABL five stars, one of the great dad movies, which you guys would be very familiar
with if you guys get the chance.
You have a podcast in the works that I'm sure would be great to listen to when it does come
out about about this very thing.
One of the great dad movies.
It feels like an old fashioned epic, which might explain why it was ignored by general
audiences back in 2003.
Mastering commander.
Totally.
That would be three to Danny, which would give you the win.
I can do one more.
If you guys want to do it for fun.
Let's do one more.
You can do one more.
All right.
This is our last one.
Danny's running away with it.
Let's do let's see from Mike Massive from Gone with the Twins.
This is a critic.
The pacing is surprisingly well handled.
The themes of hope and love are commanding and the epic presentation and striking tragedies
can't be overlooked.
Fuck.
What is it called?
Buzz.
Yeah.
Is it a winter's tale?
No.
Okay.
That is a movie, right?
I got the title right.
Yeah.
But don't think he's in it though.
Yeah.
He's.
It was really funny.
He was kinda a joke.
He was like...
He was quiet.
You were.
He was sassy.
We were the kids before.
We were going to move up into a party though.
We just looked around the lighting directly, and he
was like where's ourbirds frantically?
I told you.
We weren't going to enter the�
She went back a little while thanks to you.
She went.
Well.
ows the entire hood just lost a bonito.
No way really.
I said.
mystery thriller horror movie according to Ron Tomatoes. It is called No One Will Save You.
It has a certified fresh 82% ranking on Ron Tomatoes by the critics. It has a relatively
poopy doopie snoopy 57% by the audience. It is a critically, critically favored movie. You can
watch on... if you have a Hulu subscription, it is made by them. So you can watch it there. I think
that's... I don't know if you can watch it in any other places. You figured out, but it's called
No One Will Save You and it came out this year. Very excited to see it. It's been fun seeing
movies I haven't seen before. Minus Splice, which I'd seen many years ago and which I'd never seen
ever. But I've seen it twice now. And speaking of things that I'm glad I've seen, Danny, you're not a
thing, but I'm so glad I've seen you today. Congratulations again on your beautiful baby.
Yeah. Thanks for that. I appreciate you so much taking the time out of your, I'm sure, very busy
and tired schedule raising a newborn to talk about a movie with us and always appreciate it. And I
can't wait to have you back for the next crow feature. Or any of you want to watch? And Brandini,
again, thank you for being the co-host with the most. Thank you. We are live on twitch.tv
slash polarize pod. If you want to see us there, you can send us a line at polarize.pod.gmail.com.
There's a YouTube out there. If you, I don't know if there's no actual visuals or anything,
but it's another way to listen to our podcast that I started up recently as well,
Polarize Pod on YouTube. And just has a few of our recordings, if that's an easier way for you to
listen to. Otherwise, you really are on a lot of podcasts networks. We're on board over here
listening to right now. It's crazy. If you've enjoyed this, you love the Pope, the sex or
cyst. You should check it out sometime. If you've ever seen that movie, I don't know. But
it sounds like a good time. Yeah. And from all of us out here, we hope you enjoy your Halloween
season and we'll see you next time. Bye bye. Bye bye.