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Hello, everybody. Welcome to the Polarize podcast. I'm your Polarize podcast host, sometimes

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the forever, sometimes always the forever guest, James. Hello. Welcome to another riveting,

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horrific episode of the podcast where we talk about polarizing movies according to

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random tomatoes. This one is the Pope's Exorcist. One Pope's Exorcist by the name of what is

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a Gabriel, a Marth, or a Russell Crow. It is rated 49% by the critics and 81% by the

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audiences. They are divided. They can't make up their minds about it. They keep on tussling

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like the great tussle of good and evil that happens every day in the floors beneath us.

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If you get the chance, everyone, please check under your floorboards because there might

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just be an ancient site of inquisition happening just below you and you never know. It could

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be a gas leak or it could be and one never expects it. The Spanish Inquisition. I had

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to do a Monty Python. I had to. Now, I know you may be wondering who is this guy? It's

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James in case you forgot. Is he going to be with me the whole time? Yes, I am. But is

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it just going to be me? Hell no. Heaven's to Betsy no. There is one other. Nay two.

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But I'm going to bring him in one at a time. For now, it is, he's the fave. He's like

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an, he's an S tier co-host. Bring him in. The great brandini has come along into my

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life and decided to discuss movies. We are here to excersise the demons. Can you feel

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that? Can you feel that? Can you feel it? Can you feel it? Hey, hey, hey, everybody.

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Hey, James. Hey, hi. Hello. Hey, hi. Hey, how are you?

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One of two exorcist movies that are out. There's the other one is the exorcist believer. I think

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we probably did the better one. I think so too. That one's just rated bad. Oh, okay.

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It's almost fresh. It's got a 59% audience score. So we're never going to do that because

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we don't do those type of movies on this podcast. We only do polarizing movies in the sense

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of rotten tomato scores. Sometimes critics love it and audiences hate it or vice versa.

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Exactly. And honestly, we're doing a movie where, yeah, what is it? It's the audience

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one. One's got to be fresh. One's got to be run. Them's the rules. And above 60 is fresh

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and below is rotten. We got a 49 from the critics. We got an 81 from the audience, Brandon.

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We've been warming up on horror movies more later in our life as we've expressed on this

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podcast. But yeah, within that, how are you on exorcism movies? Do you care about a good

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exorcism movie? Do you care about the titular exorcist being the best one and arguably a

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classic in American cinema? I like the, yeah, it's really classic cinema. The exorcist is.

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And, you know, consistently, what exorcism movies get wrong is that they are so about

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the demon and less about what exorcism the original excels at, which is faith and how

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we navigate difficult times and how faith is used to overcome great odds. And yeah,

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I there as a person. Interesting how a formula has come from that. There's there's, you know,

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like the a lot of, you know, knockoffs. I mean, there's one within that franchise that

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is out at the moment. It's in that franchise. You know, what's her face is in it? Why am

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I forgetting her name? But it's that's continuing the the franchise, even though you could say

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like sequels to that very same movie could be qualified as that too. But there's a lot

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of like bargain bin exorcist movies that have come along since then. And I think there's

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a formula that has their very much and that's where this movie has its weakest parts for

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me, which will which we'll get into. But it's interesting how that in itself when within

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the horror genre, there are separate genres within that that have their own kind of stereotypes.

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I think that's just yeah, I'm glad that you brought up the formula because we'll talk

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plenty about it through this movie. But it is one of those formulas that is arguably

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easy to replicate, but very difficult to do well. Because the formula seemingly is so

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simple is there is a person who is who has the Dean has a demon in them. And then there

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is a hope or somebody who comes to exercise it. Very simple, straightforward, right?

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And it can be easily replicated in all these movies. But again, oftentimes with a lot of

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easy or a lot of straightforward, seemingly kind of concepts or types of movies, more

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often than not, people get the focus and why they're good wrong. Because again, I think

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if you are focusing more so on the demon stuff, and less on who is exercising and and what

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that kind of struggle is conflict is, you're misreading the tea leaves here as to why the

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original was so good because yeah, or something like Rosemary's baby that you know, that really

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gets into the more the effects around it and how people yeah, like you're talking about

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and how faith can affect people and where they put their faith and their community and

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and everything like that. But sure, because like, I think just like with cults and why

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people will forever be fascinated by them is that there's always this and it sounds

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simple that you could replicate on film and theoretically make an interesting documentary

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or movie TV show, whatever about, you know, oftentimes like exorcism movies, what people

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get wrong about cult movies is the actual cult itself. But I think what is more compelling

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and what is compelling and the best of the exorcism movies again, is how easy it is for

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a person to get absorbed into a cult or to lose faith and to meander or, you know, falter

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in their convictions and in their faith and how easy it is for like with the cult and

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I think religion is a cult. My there was this great. What is it explained on Netflix and

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they put it so beautifully is religion is cult plus time. So that is the comparison.

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I will say that religion is often is a cult. But you know, I get people will want to categorize

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it as a religion because cults have a bad connotation. But nonetheless, is I think what's

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so interesting about cults and about religion is is that like anybody like the polar bears.

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What do you mean? Polar bears. I'm growing them into my little cults, Brandon. Oh, you

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little devil. And you know who started the polar bears? Who James who started it?

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A little guy who goes by the name of Danny fucking Burge. I can't bring him in here.

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If not the founder of the cult of polar bears, you know, I wanted to burst in doing like

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a polar bear call or something like we've been trying to nail that down. I don't know

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if we've nailed it. What is the sound of a polar bear? I mean, it's Brandon's come

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up with it before I asked him to do it. I forget though.

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Oh, so Walrus. Walrus.

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That is not strike fear. Walruses in Walry. One. I tried to make it that plural, but

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I guess into the polar can be anything into the kingdom every now and then. Yeah, it's

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polar. It's the polar zone. Yeah. Like so it just Arctic creatures in general, like

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an Arctic fox. Like a like a like a snow leopard. Yeah. Strange. Venn diagram that were that

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we're growing here is polarizing movies and and polar and Arctic animals.

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That's where, you know, that's the T shirt right there is like you guys need to each

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get your own Arctic animal avatar and like, and then polarized with you too as like little

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little cartoon Arctic. Okay. Well, you can be the polar bear and then I guess we've got

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to come up with one of us. Well, Brandon's got the walrus noise. I guess.

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Oh, yeah. Yeah. There's a polar bear be pretty critical. Yeah. Mr. Coming in hot. Yeah. No,

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no, no, no. Well, I was going to say it like, you know, that would be a great movie, by the

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way. Are you guys just the walrus or season? But coming in hot. What was I doing? What did

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I do? This guy? Do me? This guy right here? Was I pointing? Was I pointing? No, I'm

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doing it. You to make a polar bear sound. Make a polar bear sound. Oh, like, like, like,

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kind of like more of a general. Yeah, that's a roar. Maybe. Yeah, Brandon's was more like

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a meeting call. Kind of think about it. If Russell Crowe's dubbed his toe, what would

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it sound like? If I'm going to be an animal, I'm going to be a horny. Yeah, like, I doubt

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this polar bear's got Riz, baby. I could tell. I'm sorry. I'd be like a mountain. Apparently

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mine sounds like a walrus. Yeah, get it tight. Get it tight. So Danny, how you do

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it? How are things? Oh, life is chasing around inside of me like a squirrel. I'm doing really,

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really well. Like we we just I don't know if you might hear some sounds. There's there's

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a baby in the house now. There's a baby in the house. Daddy Danny Danny has a baby in

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the house. Yeah, that's the name of my first album. First album. It's a baby crying the

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entire album in the background. It's a concept. Oh yeah. Just like that, that that TLC song

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where it's like, yeah, is that Timbaland's bills, bills, bills, bills.

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You know what I'm talking about? Yeah. Yeah. Yes, I do. I feel like it's a Timbaland joint

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to because this is the beat is really cool. But I think that that baby sound gets like

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he'd loop sit a lot throughout the whole song. It gets to be a little bit much at the at

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the end, but it's it, but it does kind of have like a nice like tenor that fits fits

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throughout it. I was kind of wish he pulled pulled back on it a bit because you're just

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kind of dancing to this baby crying. Do you think like that?

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I'm into lactate a little bit like, you know, just a little like, uh, uh, I think probably

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are you arguing that that was his intention to get women to lactate? No, that would be

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wild. But like if you just like, it's like, he's like, you know, what's cool is Pavlovian

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responses. So I'm going to throw this, this on this banger. So that way every time it

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plays, you see them titties cry. Like, no, that's, that's crazy. Women are just soaking

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their tops. Yeah. Yeah. Like, hey, man, just drenching those tops. That's the move. That's

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the mark of a platinum record. Because if you can, if you can eat some cereal with them

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titties, so, so, you know, you guys were talking about exorcist and like the newest generation

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of exorcist speaking of, I just had a baby just to fold disclosure for, uh, are we watching

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the stream now? What's going on? Yeah, what's going on?

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Oh, I just had a baby. Yeah.

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I just had a kick ass baby. This baby is really cool. Like she's, uh, she's pretty easy going

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and everything. We had her on the 23rd. It's my second. Her name is vignette. Uh, and,

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uh, we're really, really stoked. Uh, things are going well. Thank you for asking. But

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speaking of babies and the exorcist, uh, the most recent, um, iteration of the exorcist

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that they came out with is ex exorcist in you.

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Whoa. Wait, they have a movie like that. That's, that's the most recent exorcist movie

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is it's in the franchise is like there, uh, it's two girls, right? Like that's all I saw

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the trailer at least. It was like, it's not that maybe I saw a knockoff. There's so many.

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That's the thing. There's so many, but I remember Ellen Birsten. I just remembered her name.

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Isn't it as well? And then it's like two girls are possessed is really the conceit

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and it's by Danny McBride and writing buddy that did all the Halloween movies and everything.

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So I don't know. Okay. Well, I found Halloween franchise was kind of whatever. I guess I

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found a not exorcist. Like, like it was, it like, it was must have been a knockoff, but

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I saw like, I was scrolling through like, uh, like nothing.

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Oh, that's right. No, this is a thing. All right. Let's get our guy to look that up here.

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I'm pulling it up right now. Now. Let's get on with the name of it. I am curious. Like

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it's exorcist in you in utero. It's like the craziest thing. Like, uh, yeah, it's exorcist

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in utero. Exorcist in utero 2023. It tells the story of a woman who must save her unborn

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child and her and herself when she is possessed by a powerful ring.

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Huh? It's been done.

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I was really just hoping that it was going to be an exorcist, a movie with the soundtrack

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of in utero.

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Oh, wow. I know. I was like, are you sure you're not thinking of Kurt Cobain?

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Uh, but, but I mean, like, if you like, man, what a crazy idea for a movie of like, we're

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going to have to exercise a demon out of a feed. It's like that, that is the most insane.

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Like, like I'd like to be there for that pitch.

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That's what we were talking about. Yeah. Kind of like that's a good going back to that conversation

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a bit because that definitely is the knockoff version. And for me, that doesn't constitute

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a whole movie that constitutes like a part of a movie.

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Needle Exorcism?

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focus like Brandon saying it's like you're focusing so much on one part of it rather

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than you already know how that movie is going to kind of play out already like the poster

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and just how it's presenting itself and everything rather than like that could be a part of something

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bigger, you know.

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It's also probably not inherently interesting to watch something that's possessed, but you

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can't even see it. Like, you know, unless they're doing like shots in womb of a possessed

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baby or possessed fetus, let's just get the terminology right.

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Like, but like, you know what I'm saying is like, you know, if this shit, I know, I know,

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I know, I know, I just like to blame you for my mistakes.

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You just started up your own little pot down and sir in it.

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But I mean, like, but I mean, like, I just like the lead up to the bait, the fetal exorcism,

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because it's like, somebody's like, we got to get the devil out of this baby and this

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baby out of this lady. Like, you know, like there's like, there's got to be like certain

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moments where you can like just picture it.

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Oh, there's like a process. We got to get the devil out of the baby than the baby of

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the lady. I like that.

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I mean, or I mean, I don't think you want to take a baby.

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That's your second single.

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Maybe. Yeah, this is like a, this is like a warmup exercise.

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I feel like that was a movie.

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The baby baby, another lady, devil out of the baby, baby out of the lady.

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I feel like that was a movie in the 2000s or something about a woman possessed with like

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an evil baby or something. And I don't know.

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you go. Yeah.

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Yeah, there was some other cheesy one that came out like early 2000s possessed something.

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I don't know, but yeah, that's essentially a better version already is Rosemary's baby

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and the title of that exorcism in your utero.

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I don't know. It's like, but it's like, oh, we're at CVS.

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Look at these silly movie covers. Oh, well, let's go.

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That was basically what I was doing. But meanwhile, you know, it was another movie about an exorcism

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that we all watched.

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Was the Pope's exorcism.

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Nice.

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Well, no, man, I just feel bad that I just really derailed us.

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No, no, I think that's pertains absolutely. And I was just thinking about how, you know,

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a lot of these like, I didn't see the original exorcist before I had already seen the knockoffs

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and the parodies and all the things making fun of it.

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Much like I was a big weird owl guy and there's plenty of weird owl songs that I heard the

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parody of and then I heard the original later because that was just my childhood and growing

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up, you know, in the nineties and weird owl was such a big thing. And that was like the

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coolest version of that's way cooler than kids bop. You get to hear weird owl just do

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a funny version of it and he's got good instrumentation, good production. And he just changes the lyrics.

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So now you have a hard time reconciling it because you still think of weird owl's lyrics

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and some, some capacity. But when I see other movies doing the exorcist formula, I think

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of those parodies as well.

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Instead of the original exorcist, I think of how silly kind of it comes across because

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it is so like rehashed over and over again to, to this point. But I, yeah, I, it's been

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a long time since I've seen the original one. Truly terrifying movie for, yeah, I don't know,

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for somebody that doesn't take a lot of stock and at this point in my life, like religion

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and demons and, and, you know, and being possessed and shit like that. But that movie, I think

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cuts through everybody to, to show, yeah, an innocent person being possessed is such

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a, and then having somebody, especially a parental figure having to come to terms with

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it is a visceral place to go for a horror movie. This movie has that, you know, there's,

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there's certain things that this movie doesn't escape from as well. And for, for real, like

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a part of my criticism against it, not to already get ahead of criticisms and everything

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because there's a lot I do like about this movie as well.

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But Danny, I mean, do you, do you, do you stand the exorcist? Is that something that you really

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hold in high regard in your horror movie collection of like exorcist is like up there? Or is it

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just kind of like, you know, one of the, one of the

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Well, I, I, I'd say like, I think like, as far as film goes, exorcist is a monumental

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film. Yeah. Like as a, you know, it's set a precedent for basically an entire, you

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know, genre of horror as far as, so like I recognize it's, it's place and purpose and,

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and whatever it's not, it's not my favorite horror movie. It's not my like, it's not a

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rewatch for me. I'm not like, you know what I want to do right now? Watch the exorcist.

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It makes a mark on you when you do see it, that you don't need to see the bunch you

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can see. And then there are there, my go to horror movies that I want to go and watch

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are not necessarily that I could watch this probably. This is a rewatch for me.

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Oh, this is rewatching. Yes. Oh my God. Yeah. Not a better movie, but you know, I would

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not be opposed to taking like a film class about this movie where we just watch this

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each, each, each week we go in, watch this movie and then talk about it again. Like I

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kind of wouldn't get bored with that. Like just dissecting it piece by piece. Like first

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we're going to talk about cinematography. Then we're going to like, cause like really

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do it right now. Yeah. Like, yeah. Like, like this, this movie fucking was a blouse.

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So what brought you to this movie? Was it the poster? Was it a trailer? Was it like,

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I know, I was on Netflix or something. You guys were going to do it. And then I watched

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it.

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So you hadn't heard of it before. Well, no, I saw it like, you know, I was scrolling

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through shit on one of the, one of the streaming sites and I saw it there, but I was like,

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ooh, like for some reason, first of all, I conflated it with that Mel Gibson movie where

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he's like a priest or something. For some reason, I thought it was Mel Gibson at first,

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which made me just as excited. I just was like, I'm going to get to that. Like because

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there was that one where it's like Mel Gibson helping write like the dictionary or some

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shit like that. Like, you know, I'm talking about.

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Yeah. And so because, uh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And so for some reason I just was like,

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I'll see Mel Gibson as a, as a crazy priest. I don't know why I just like put those two

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together. But then when I realized it was Russell Crowe, I was even, even better. Like,

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honestly, like,

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Well, you are a residential resident, uh, Russell Crowe, Russell Crowe expert. Yes.

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So that's, that is why you're back.

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I proudly take that title, man. Like that, that, that lifts me up, dude. Thank you. Thank

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you, King. Uh, I really appreciate that.

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Hell yeah, brother.

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I'm a big Crow head myself. I mean, I mean, the last one we've done Noah, we've done

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unhinged, uh, and the unhinged episode was the one with you, Danny. And I think this

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point in his career to see him enjoying himself as much as he is and elevating movies that

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he's in and not ever seeming like he's checked out or not involved or like fully, you know,

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he's having fun. He's having fun. Yeah. He's invested just enough. I mean, maybe, maybe

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he is a little bit, you know, I'm sure working with him as well, like, no, I'm going to do

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this. No, I don't want to do that. I want to do this. And so he just kind of does like

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his own kind of thing sometimes. And I'm sure you have to embrace it, but those, those little

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flourishes, ooh, just perk me up every single time in this movie when he's, he's able to

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have fun and that just makes the movie for me. Like this movie would, would not be what

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it is without him just starting already with, with that for this discussion. Like this,

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he fucking makes this movie. Same with the engine.

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In a lot of ways. Yeah. Can I, can I ask you both a question? What were your thoughts

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on his Italian?

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It doesn't really bother me. And I, and I'm sure my Italian heritage probably is screaming

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in there. Like all my Italian ancestors are rolling in their graves when I say that, but

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like, uh, I'm, I'm fucking American. I don't know. But like, uh, it's the blood is in there

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somewhere, but, uh, I just, I don't know. It's, it doesn't bother, it didn't bother me as much

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in this sort of thing. Cause I'm really, what I'm seeking when I sit down for the Pope's

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exorcist is I am seeking camp and I am seeking schlock. This movie had enough of it for, for

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it to be a good time. I wish it had more. I'm getting ready to like kind of like overall

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thoughts about it. But what he brings into it is, is the fun, the fun side of it all.

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And that's, and that's when I'm, what was your original question? Sorry. I'm just going

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to talk about your thoughts on the Italian accent.

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Yeah. And I think that just is like fun and silly. And, uh, and I, and I, and I, when I,

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now when I watched like the last dual, some movie that, uh, I was really looking forward

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to and wanting to like, but a little trepidatious about some of the accents and casting and

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that it did kind of hold me back from liking that movie. Cause what I was thinking for

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in that movie was a little bit more, you know, realism and drama and, uh, seeing a bunch

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of expected more from it. Yeah. You gave, you had higher expectations on the, the continuity

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and, and, and realism.

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I'm in, I'm no European. I'm no French, a French man for the, you know, last, all the

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last dual, uh, characters and everything. And, and I thought the performance is really

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good in that movie. And I, I overall do like that movie, but it was extremely distracting

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some of the accents and that and much the same way. I don't think Russell Crowe is being,

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he's being as accurate as they were, you know, I think in that, in that movie, but it just,

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just works for me in this. Like it's just, and I, and I did appreciate how they would

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talk about like, let's speak in English now, let's speak in Italian. Let's like, they would

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always preface that when they would switch languages. And that actually did bring like

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a nice little like modicum of realism in this movie that I, again, I didn't really care for

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it. I was like, Oh, that's cool that they are speaking a fair amount of Italian, Russell

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Crowe's down to try it. I'm just down. I'm just, I enjoy that he's down to try it, you

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know, whether it's successful or not. But what do you think, what did you think of it,

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Brandon?

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I mean, it was slightly distracting because I just kept kind of chuckling here and there

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because what he's doing is, is that he's at such a low grown that you're able to get

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away with a lot of accent stuff because he's just so, yeah, it's, it's in a register where

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you're kind of mumbling by and large because his speech is very kind of quiet and yeah,

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just subdued. And so that definitely helps with the accent, but I just think it's so

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funny because like, I would forget about this movie and that's to the credit of the movie

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as a whole of how much I genuinely enjoyed his performance. But there would be times

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where I'd just be like, he is not Italian though.

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Oh yeah, that's so weird that he's an Australian guy right now is being a Italian.

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That would constantly be in the back of my head of just kind of like, Oh, wait a minute,

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like he's, cause he's talking to the Spaniard guy and he's talking about, you know, like

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whatever differences between Italian and being Latin and Spaniard and Latin and all

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this stuff. And it's just like, who are you to say?

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Right, absolutely.

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You don't come across as accurate, but he's such a character and he's so like, yeah,

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jovial, kind of like funny and has, yeah, just has a lot of personality with his outfits

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and his Vespa is like introduced early as sunglasses and, you know, what would have

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been great is the movie.

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What would have been great though is if because like priests can come from all around the

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world, right? Yeah, like what if he would have just been straight up Australian and

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like, like we had an extra the Pope's exorcist and he's a real face on real person.

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Like, I think that would like that that could have really, I mean, honestly, it would have

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been a different movie.

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It was a very different movie.

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Yeah, it would have, but that goes to the serviceability of the accent by and large.

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Like it is slightly distracting, but overall I wasn't like totally, you know, I think

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he did all right though. That's what I was going to say is like I'm in the camp of James's,

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you know, I didn't I expected him to do worse at it. So then when he did an adequate job

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and it also seems like he put in the time and effort to try it, try very hard to like

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be in that space and like, you know, I mean, I just did not see him. I thought it was going

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to be like, like, like fucking house of Gucci, bad.

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Like, and like it was, it was not the Jared Leto approach.

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And ridiculous. I mean, even Al Pacino, who like for all intents and purposes, like, like

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is like a very leading Italian American in like our in our, in our like parlance of our

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times has did a terrible Italian accent in house of Gucci. And like, so I would argue

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you mean that then you mean this is about the good accent.

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You're talking like me. Oh, yeah.

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It was like you're playing like Mario, then he was playing like both really scar pictures.

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Really scar. I don't give a fuck about an accent. Just get him on the set. I don't.

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He's a consummate professional. He'll do it. But when I'm body make up is doing a better

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Italian accent than Al Pacino. Like that that blows my mind. Like I just like it's a weird

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crazy topsy turvy world we live in now, I guess. And like, I'm sure Gabrielle, I would

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agree with you.

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I mean, I'm I'm I've been dead over my great.

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But like, I really did think that Russell Crowe brought like a decent amount to the

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table and like he has so much confidence. It kind of helps me like just move past and

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move through. Obviously, that's what you get in a in an actor at his age. He's been been

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through so much. And at this point, he's just had, yeah, you should be having fun.

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Yeah, you should be able to do what he wants and have a good time. And it is choice to be

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like unhinged and to be Pope's exorcists or just like end up becoming kind of dare I

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say almost iconic because he because he's doing it like if it was anyone else doing

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to be so forgettable or anything, maybe because they they would take it seriously in a different

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way. But he adds a certain amount of fun to it, even though they're kind of unhinged monster

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is kind of is a weird character and and all that stuff. But like a very dark character.

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But this guy has catchphrases. He's got trademark Vespa. He's got, you know, he's got his old

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hat. He's got his glasses. He's got trademark things like and then by the end, they're like,

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I feel like fucking Nick Fury is going to come out of the fucking corner and be like,

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Gabrielle. Oh my God. Have you heard of the Avengers initiative? He's just like a part

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of the crew and just like I'm jumping ahead. But that just has the feeling at the end of

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this movie. I'm like, fuck, he's going to like be part of like the fast crew or something

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or like, you know, maybe they can link him into the constant team movie or something

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like that. Yes. Him and Keanu just fucking ripping up demons and ghosts and shit.

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Oh, like, I'm getting like a hand. My money. Yeah. Yeah. Like a hand crossbow. Yeah. Like

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a Russell Crowe hand crossbow. It's just fun to say. Crowe bro. Bro. Bro. Bro. Bro. Bro.

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Bro. Well, let's let's go through some of the movie. Hey, yeah, we're going to say something

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different. Yeah, I'm glad you brought up the cuckoo thing because it was I loved that moment

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so much and it happens multiple times in the movie where he's just kind of like risen the

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sisters a little bit like any time he would see a sister of the faith, he would just be

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like cuckoo or just be like, oh, like, I'm going to like like give him a little something

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and he is such a little scam. Oh, ladies, you know, just having fun with it. Oh, I loved

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it. And he says shit in the fucking like he says no shit to the guy or I forget what

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like like a card. No, no shit. It's like, this guy's cool. Yeah. This exercise. Yeah,

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that's the first thing I thought to him like this guy fucks and I would like to have a

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sex scene with. I mean, it's a priest. So most sex scenes are going to be pretty problematic.

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Probably like, yeah, that is a problem. I mean, that ends up being a our the sin. What is the

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line? The sins he uses the sins are sins against us. Okay, so I forget before we start before

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we get super into it, I wanted to ask you guys one thing too. I'll be not to not to

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hold us back. But okay, sometimes when these kind of when like movies come out like like

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okay, this or I was watching that show called evil on Paramount Plus, it's about it make

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one of the main characters a priest and they're doing like paranormal investigations of like,

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like they're investigating. He's an exorcist and he's going around and like half the time

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it's like people that are mentally ill or this and this. But it also sometimes like

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I watch movies and I'm like, is big. It's like the Catholic Church putting money into

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this to kind of make like, you know, certain things look cooler and like or like, or would

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they put money into like, do you think that Catholic Church funded the movie the exorcist?

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Maybe not that one to some degree. But at the same time, it's like if people are scared

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enough of demons, they might start going back to church. Like you hear what I'm saying here?

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It's like, it seems like that is that is like a it's a well that people keep going back

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to and I'm wondering if to some degree, like maybe Catholic Church will help fund like

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exorcism movies or something like that.

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In my mind, it's it's cheap thrills. It's really bastardizing a classic film like we

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were talking about earlier, like the exorcist was such a classic and they're just like

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bastardizing and finding different ways to like keep keep the train running because I

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mean, who just what studio just spent, you know, for the new exorcist movie, they spent

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like massive amounts of money to to get the rights to make that movie the newest exorcist.

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And to me that speaks to the power of that franchise of like, oh, it's actually tied

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into the original universe that has cash or that has power, you know, and I think the

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other likes the exorcist movies or doesn't like them.

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I feel like there's there's people like WLA that will see this movie and the Catholic

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Church and be like, fuck yeah, we're badass. We're rock stars. Like they're, you know,

392
00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:23,240
and I fuck stars.

393
00:36:23,240 --> 00:36:25,560
Fuck stars. No, but that's

394
00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:26,560
Rockstar.

395
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:29,480
At least we're fuck stars. I was like, whoa.

396
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:36,280
No, it's like that's like that. Or like when you, you know, we this is a weird comparison,

397
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:43,440
but we watch fucking super troopers on this show on this podcast and cops fucking love

398
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:48,200
those guys and they love super troopers and it's not like they show cops in the best light,

399
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:52,840
but they show humanity to the cops and they show them kind of fucking around and being

400
00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:56,800
and having personality and not being like these perfect, you know, sort of things. But

401
00:36:56,800 --> 00:37:00,840
like the lot of the stories would be like cops who's approached us and want to party

402
00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:01,840
with us and all this shit.

403
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:05,680
And I feel like that's my comparison. I feel like there'd be like Cardinals and shit and

404
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:10,760
like, you think this is the Catholic Church will see this movie and be like, oh yeah,

405
00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:11,760
they get it.

406
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:16,280
Yeah, I like I love a dope. You a cafe called that she in the middle of the day. Are you

407
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:20,360
kidding me? Fuck off. Sugar's from the devil. You know, that kind of funds dough like that

408
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:22,760
dope. Your stress. I was great for me. I love that.

409
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:23,760
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

410
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:24,760
Oh, so it's.

411
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:29,920
But I think I think like, honestly, I think the Catholic Church is happy about anything

412
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:35,000
that paints them in any other light besides pedophiles. Like I think like they're going

413
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:40,120
to be stoked about anything that is like, look, there we're killing demons. Like we're doing

414
00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:44,440
stuff that's like good for God and stuff. Like, you know what I'm saying is like, I do.

415
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:49,600
That's fair because there's a moment in this movie where he, he rate, he rages against

416
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:54,360
these supposed. There's a kind of almost throwaway line of like these abuse allegations

417
00:37:54,360 --> 00:38:01,520
that were levied against him with the, you know, the with the woman that jumped off,

418
00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:09,440
you know, the building and everything. He kind of casually mentioned like how they were

419
00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:13,240
untrue and unfounded and all that stuff. So I can see your point there where it depicts

420
00:38:13,240 --> 00:38:23,280
them as someone who was was trying to do good for the church and had these unwrongful accusations

421
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:26,880
put against them. But you know, that's another, you know, little criticism of the movie. There

422
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:31,240
are certain things that aren't super fleshed out and become formulaic where it just kind

423
00:38:31,240 --> 00:38:37,240
of throws those little lines and think that like that's enough to give to this subplot

424
00:38:37,240 --> 00:38:42,520
when in fact like that would do a lot in helping characterize him further and give him more

425
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:48,720
backstory. Him along with, you know, as we're getting into the story, the husband who owns

426
00:38:48,720 --> 00:38:55,120
this ancient house in Spain and we never see him and never see any sort of backstory and

427
00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:59,680
it has this fucking Inquisition Room in the bottom and it's like, who is this?

428
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:04,760
It's not that he owns an ancient house though.

429
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:09,240
And there's no family. There's no family nearby. All the family is gone.

430
00:39:09,240 --> 00:39:15,200
Well, but this is an old Abbey. It's an old monastery. So it's like, so first of all,

431
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:20,360
like Catholic priests don't have kids or anything. How is it left to him? Who the fuck leaves

432
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:26,280
you a monastery? A monastery or Abbey would never be left in somebody's will. It would

433
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:30,480
be an asset owned by the Catholic Church. It makes absolutely no sense why somebody

434
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:35,440
would inherit. And like, you know, this would be a fucking immediately gets into a car crash

435
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:39,920
and dies right when he inherits it. I guess. Yeah. There's like a lot of story there that

436
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:44,520
you can put online. Well, yeah, I mean, hey, that can even be a bit like, oh, he gets possession

437
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:48,680
house and it's like, oh, the house is cursed. And so you so like he gets cursed and then

438
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:53,240
goes in the car crash and the demons are already three pools here. Well, demons already have

439
00:39:53,240 --> 00:39:57,480
played in. Yeah. And then that's like leading the son and leading them to the house with

440
00:39:57,480 --> 00:40:02,440
the mother. And so they can get the it's just all like lined up so they can wage this huge

441
00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:07,800
war and like it ends up the implications by the end of this movie. Oh my God. It's a whole

442
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:11,680
map of the world and their plans. They save the fucking world in this movie. It's great.

443
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:19,320
But part of like what I love about the horror genre is like, like when they do when they

444
00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:26,200
make kind of big leaps like that in plot explanation or reasons why this thing is happening. If

445
00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:30,760
you're into the horror movie enough, you're like, fuck it, I don't care. And like that's

446
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:35,560
that's what I love about this shit is like when it comes to horror movies, there's something

447
00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:40,680
about it. If you do it right, I don't fucking care. Like, like just give me a reason why

448
00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:45,440
all this shit actually is going to happen and then make it look cool, make it feel cool,

449
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:49,440
like set it up right. And then I'm like, yeah, I'm with you. I don't, you know, I don't,

450
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:55,440
I don't need it to make perfect sense. I just need it to suspend my disbelief, you know,

451
00:40:55,440 --> 00:41:01,320
like, like I, I think it rode, it rode the line the entire movie for me and I was a little

452
00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:06,160
worried by the end that it wasn't get it wasn't going to catch me enough. And then the ending

453
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:11,200
fucking got it got it for me because I was a little, I was a little waning there in the

454
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:15,720
middle and that was when a lot of the formulaic stuff was happening. It got a little repetitive.

455
00:41:15,720 --> 00:41:22,000
But by the end I was like, here we go. I wanted this movie. Like I want to all look like that

456
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:26,600
just to be the whole thing and just to be full Sam Raimi, you know, I wanted Sam Raimi

457
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:27,600
really to do this movie.

458
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:33,360
Once it went a little Indiana Jonesy, I got rubbed in once we were down into the, into

459
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:38,240
the Spanish Inquisition Chamber. I was like, yep, this is cool. I like this. Like I really

460
00:41:38,240 --> 00:41:42,760
like this. Like I couldn't, I couldn't, I couldn't put it down after that.

461
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:46,160
Well, let's, let's go through some broad strokes at the beginning. I mean, there's this cold

462
00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:53,680
open with the possession and the pig anything about this scene. I enjoyed how the very first

463
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:56,640
line that he ever says is, it's a beautiful pig.

464
00:41:56,640 --> 00:42:03,480
That's the first line of this movie is it's a beautiful pig. I'm like, little did I know

465
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:06,160
that was poor shadowing and the pig.

466
00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:12,720
It was a good look at the play. It was a beautiful pig. He tricks, you know, he's, he's a trickster.

467
00:42:12,720 --> 00:42:18,080
I like how he tricks the devil and, and like kind of fucks with the devil to go into the

468
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:23,520
pig and then, and then they shoot it. And that's like a pretty effective way to, to open

469
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:28,880
the movie. What do you guys think of the look of it? It's, it was pretty dark. I obviously

470
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:35,400
you want it to be, but there's some, some parts where it just was a little, little too dim

471
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:37,400
for me. I thought, I thought I could use a,

472
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:38,400
Oh yeah.

473
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:40,400
Yeah. Just a little bit more, but

474
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:46,120
Well, watching it on my TV at home, they all had candles. I was just like, this is 1980s.

475
00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:51,240
It's just like 1987, right? And I get it's like a small Italian village or something.

476
00:42:51,240 --> 00:42:53,920
I'm like, they look like, where are they?

477
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:57,920
They come into this village and this is like this.

478
00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:04,160
This is the 1800. What the fuck? 1600s?

479
00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:09,800
I thought it was a little dim for me too. There's this setting on my TV that I can switch

480
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:16,520
to that goes from a filmmaker to vivid and certain movies that are too dark.

481
00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:17,520
But yeah.

482
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:22,640
Yeah. But on movies where there's a lot of different blacks and grays and stuff, then

483
00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:26,600
I'm like, all right, we'll do vivid on this one. And like that, that helped me be able

484
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:31,440
to see in the dark with those, those kind of things. But I hear you like, it's also

485
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:35,280
like, maybe this was like, you got to see it in theaters kind of thing. This would be

486
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:37,280
a good IMAX one.

487
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:44,080
Yeah. I'd check it out. But I think that's just a part of, you know, streaming in general

488
00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:48,440
of how they produce movies and and everyone's got different setups and it just doesn't hit

489
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:54,880
the same. If you're not in the theater and yeah, yeah. And I was I had some glare. I

490
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:57,680
was during the daytime I was watching it. So that's my fault as well. You got to get

491
00:43:57,680 --> 00:44:03,760
into a nice dark room for a for a horror movie. But that's where I just start to question

492
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:09,640
the set dressing a bit. But then they get right into this, you know, this ancient house

493
00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:14,200
that doesn't have any electricity because they're still setting it up and all that. So

494
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:20,280
so I get that. But yeah, I was just like, this doesn't some points. I'm like, I had

495
00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:24,480
to remind myself it was 1980s. And it was usually when he roll up into that on that

496
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:33,200
Vespa, which happens pretty early on too. And you get his kind of life, you know, at

497
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:38,680
the Vatican and him. I was going to say flirting, but he's just being playful with the with

498
00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:44,840
the the nuns and doing the cuckoo thing is I would just like, oh, yeah, OK, it's this

499
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:49,240
it's this kind of character. And then him just kind of like dealing with the with point

500
00:44:49,240 --> 00:44:58,160
dexter fucking Cardinal or just like I said to speak in English and like you're not supposed

501
00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:03,400
to do that. And what was a thing with that girl in the past and giving them all this

502
00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:09,240
shit? I'm like, hey, lay off Gabrielle. OK, he's written books and the books are good.

503
00:45:09,240 --> 00:45:16,880
I mean, from the from the get go with the pig stuff and then into that, I don't know.

504
00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:24,160
What is it? It's like a council council. I don't know. It just really establishes the

505
00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:32,800
competency of Gabrielle, which I love so much about this character and about how Russell

506
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:38,600
Crow plays this is that he's so competent and it's it's really fun to watch somebody who

507
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:45,280
is very competent just doing getting shit done solving problems. And you understand,

508
00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:49,760
you know, he like sees things, knows things, and he's just able to navigate through all

509
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:53,680
of these problems and go like, you know, with the council, he's a while I answer to this

510
00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:59,200
person. So this is how this order goes. This is how the hierarchy goes. You can have all

511
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:03,360
of this bitching and moaning that you want. But like I answer to the pope, like what what

512
00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:07,240
does he have to say about it? Like what does this mean and all of that? And it just really

513
00:46:07,240 --> 00:46:12,800
I yeah, I mean, you got to love a situation where somebody is being overly vocal about

514
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:20,920
something but also just so like smarmy pieces shit and just kind of gets dressed down a

515
00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:26,440
little bit is always fun to yeah, when you have a heel, this get dressed down. Yeah,

516
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:31,760
you got the healed for the for the hero to kind of show his his true colors right off

517
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:36,480
the bat and and storm out. And you can tell it's already it's even divided amongst the

518
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:43,640
council with his his one buddy. There you can tell is more on his side and is more like

519
00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:53,240
they consider a orthodox I guess sort of method methodary, but within the church and within

520
00:46:53,240 --> 00:46:58,920
something that has so much organization and strict rules about how how to be seen a character

521
00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:03,920
come around and cut through the fat and be able to. Yeah, again, I'm repeating myself

522
00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:09,440
probably but show that personality. I really makes it a turn. Yeah, a nice like dress setting

523
00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:16,440
for his his character and how different he is from from his peers. What's up? Yeah. So

524
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:23,640
when you got when I first heard the title for this movie, the Pope's Exorcism. What

525
00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:32,120
was my sorry, the Pope's Exorcist. What flashed in my head was this movie was going to be

526
00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:40,000
Russell Crow exercising a demon out of the same. Yeah, totally. Yeah. Totally. Yeah.

527
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:48,640
Well, they kind of hint at it. I was like, there's no way I'm not my assistant. Like

528
00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:55,600
if it's a pope, you're like, oh, I get this demon out of it. Like, you know, kind of like

529
00:47:55,600 --> 00:48:00,840
the pope going crazy and then getting like, I hope if there's equals to this movie, that

530
00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:05,400
needs to be the culmination of this. Like because that was the plot in a sense is like

531
00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:09,400
really what they're trying to do is infiltrate the Catholic Church and whatever. I never

532
00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:13,360
thought I would want to sequel so bad, but that is a great fucking idea along with like

533
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:17,720
their idea of what they already had of just going around the world, you know, doing adventure

534
00:48:17,720 --> 00:48:23,800
going on adventures and exorcisms and every oh yeah, 99 places. I mean, I mean, this

535
00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:29,160
is just so well a formula that could really be a franchise where you already have somebody

536
00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:33,840
to hand it off to when Russell Crowe gets too old. Like he's already has a prodigy.

537
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:39,640
Perfect. Like, yeah, like this is going forever. Okay, so let me finish my point first and

538
00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:46,280
then I want to talk about the protege, for sure. That formula of like the demons are

539
00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:55,360
trying to infiltrate high level people love that church because they have the power to,

540
00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:59,960
you know, they establish like do an Inquisition. I don't know what that would like.

541
00:48:59,960 --> 00:49:00,960
Sleep agents.

542
00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:09,560
That's that was kind of a problem I had with this movie is like to like, OK, so if he OK,

543
00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:17,120
say for example, that Russell Crowe were to get fully, you know, become a demon, whatever.

544
00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:24,080
And then so he would tell the Pope to do something on the level of an Inquisition, but that can't

545
00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:29,120
happen, right? Well, how about even the fact that like during the Inquisition talking about

546
00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:35,840
the twist school? Yeah. Yeah. What's the demon school, you know, yeah, how it already

547
00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:40,240
happened like how they are like, oh, that's what the Spanish Inquisition was. Was this

548
00:49:40,240 --> 00:49:45,360
exorcist got possessed and then started that whole thing? Sure. And you're questioning

549
00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:50,680
what that would look like in today's age or in the 80s when it was said, you know, in

550
00:49:50,680 --> 00:49:55,200
the 80s, right? Because yeah, like the Spanish Inquisition, but even that was just like, wow,

551
00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:58,760
they're really doing like fucking ancient aliens with this. This is cool.

552
00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:04,400
But then the thing is, like to what end, though, to what end, because during the Spanish Inquisition,

553
00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:11,080
the people they were torturing were like people that were pagans and like, like essentially

554
00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:16,520
they were trying to get people to confess that they were either witches or demons or

555
00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:24,000
whatever the fuck or convert over to the Catholic Church. So it's like, so you're making more

556
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:30,680
Catholics as a demon and torturing the people that would in essence, support you. It's a

557
00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:35,320
little, it's a little muddy. Like, we're like, we're tarnishing the Lord's name, maybe is

558
00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:39,720
the biggest stretch you can make. Yeah. But it's such a badass idea that I'm like, who

559
00:50:39,720 --> 00:50:47,240
cares? That's awesome. Yeah. Like, I fucking got hats off to like the creativity of that

560
00:50:47,240 --> 00:50:54,000
idea of like, like their plan is to like possess an exorcist and then love that eventually

561
00:50:54,000 --> 00:51:00,360
like poison the well and spread. Yeah, like that's really cool. And it also in a way,

562
00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:05,440
like don't think about it too much. But no, just our track.

563
00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:12,440
And it's like spy espionage warfare between like, yeah, like getting a sweet.

564
00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:19,600
It's like the cold. Okay. But then, but then could just be, I love it. It also makes it

565
00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:26,320
so then you can support the good guys in the Catholic Church, because you're like, Oh,

566
00:51:26,320 --> 00:51:30,440
well, all the bad shit that they ever did then might have just been demons possessing

567
00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:35,680
like it kind of just like Catholicism, all you have to do is walk in and confess your

568
00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:42,200
sins and you're off the hook. You know, this just let them off the hook of anything as

569
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:46,200
far as the movie maker standpoint is like, they're let off the hook of all the things

570
00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:49,760
the sins of the Catholic Church since the ex the inquisition.

571
00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:53,720
Yeah. Because now you're thinking about it a little, a little much. And I'm sure I'm

572
00:51:53,720 --> 00:51:58,720
going too much into it. Yeah. I mean, it's it's fun to do it. But like just, yeah, the

573
00:51:58,720 --> 00:52:04,880
simple idea of being able of like, that's their attack method and that they have a strategy

574
00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:11,040
and how that plays out could be a movie in itself. And the minute that they introduce

575
00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:17,280
that as an idea, I immediately wrote in my notes that that would be really cool if that

576
00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:23,080
does happen is if an exorcist does get possessed. And that's why that payoff at the end was

577
00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:27,280
so great for me was like, yeah, that would they foreshadowed it. And then they paid it.

578
00:52:27,280 --> 00:52:31,320
I was like, are they really going to go there? And they did. And so I was so happy. It made

579
00:52:31,320 --> 00:52:36,880
me so happy because it was like, this is true schlock and true camp and like fun, silly

580
00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:42,600
stuff that hasn't really been done before, even in the exorcist, when whatever the priest

581
00:52:42,600 --> 00:52:45,800
takes the demon, he jumps out the fucking window and kills himself. You know, that's

582
00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:50,080
that's that's how that happens. That's how that goes to see it, you know, play out a

583
00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:56,880
bit more was just just a blast. But this, uh, him, you know, the this family, we haven't

584
00:52:56,880 --> 00:52:59,880
really talked too much about the family. The family moves into the house. We talked a little

585
00:52:59,880 --> 00:53:04,880
bit about the crazy logic of the father, but, um, this is the stuff that was a little bit

586
00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:10,520
of a drag for me, I guess is like when Russell Crowe's not on screen. Yeah. Yeah. For sure.

587
00:53:10,520 --> 00:53:15,320
And even when he is during this portion, it does get a little repetitive of like going

588
00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:20,840
to check in on on the son who's who's possessed and doing some crazy shit going back out,

589
00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:28,280
going back in, you know, uh, I almost wanted a montage of him throwing like 10 different

590
00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:34,280
priests out wrong priest, wrong priest. And he does something fucked up to like 10 different

591
00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:38,280
ones and like one comes out and his head's like backwards. He's like, he's like, he's

592
00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:43,480
a wrong priest again. And then like the other one's like an appraisal or whatever. And they

593
00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:47,320
just like, there's a whole pile of priests that are growing. They're like, come on, get

594
00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:53,920
the right one. That's where things started to move. Yeah. It moved a little quick, but

595
00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:58,320
that's where I wanted to embellish on, on certain things that it didn't quite do. It

596
00:53:58,320 --> 00:54:04,000
seemed more involved in having those, those scenes with the kid on the bed, which come

597
00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:07,720
on. Again, it's like, you're going to have those scenes, but it's way too close to the

598
00:54:07,720 --> 00:54:12,600
original exorcist and you're not going to do anything that crazy different in my mind.

599
00:54:12,600 --> 00:54:20,240
And it's, it's all fine, but none of it really tickles my horror bone that much, you know,

600
00:54:20,240 --> 00:54:26,760
the Ralph Innocent voice. Fantastic. Fantastic. Yeah. Big fan of that voice. Yeah. Which makes

601
00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:31,960
it really scary. His voice is incredible. We stand him. We've talked about his voice

602
00:54:31,960 --> 00:54:35,920
previously on our Green Night episode and he's fighting against the devil in the last

603
00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:42,200
one, but you know what I'll say that it kind of lent itself for a montage, which by and

604
00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:47,040
large, there was a lot of the family stuff that kind of ended up being like a montage.

605
00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:53,000
But the music in this movie is really wild. Mm hmm. Like some of the songs that wrote

606
00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:58,920
down, I was like, we got like violent fans in here. Yeah. Gone, Daddy, gone. I really

607
00:54:58,920 --> 00:55:04,160
think they just like wanted the gone, daddy, gone thing with the kid being like gone, daddy,

608
00:55:04,160 --> 00:55:08,800
gone because he died in a car crash crash. Like what are we doing here, guys? Like why

609
00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:14,720
are we like I get that's like the name of it, but it's kind of. Yeah, a little too on

610
00:55:14,720 --> 00:55:19,240
the nose. Yeah, on the nose a little weird. And that like early on, like 80s synth pop

611
00:55:19,240 --> 00:55:25,320
generics. Mm hmm. It was kind of like, uh, yeah, she sells sanctuary. If you guys want

612
00:55:25,320 --> 00:55:30,800
to be done to listen to a little. What is it? The cult? Yeah, it's the cult. She sells

613
00:55:30,800 --> 00:55:38,400
sanctuary. Yeah. And just like the, the needle drops were, mm hmm. were interesting. I thought

614
00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:44,840
the violent films one was, yeah, that was crazy. Yeah, really weird. And didn't really

615
00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:50,480
add anything or do anything and was just very much like needle drop and not fade in. I don't

616
00:55:50,480 --> 00:55:55,920
know, maybe fade out a bit, but just like, yeah, I guess there was some, oh, I remember

617
00:55:55,920 --> 00:56:04,520
there was also Metallica. Mm hmm. And that and how the movie presents itself. Uh, almost

618
00:56:04,520 --> 00:56:12,360
if you read it in a certain way is the kid falls asleep listening to Metallica and gets

619
00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:17,440
possessed by a demon. And it's like, I know that he goes into the little, the wall, he

620
00:56:17,440 --> 00:56:22,800
sees the, the gas or whatever. And he sees the symbol and that's all the reason why.

621
00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:28,200
But immediately after her taking the headphones off of him, I believe it's Metallica. He like

622
00:56:28,200 --> 00:56:36,200
wakes his eyes up. He's like, Metallica to me. We were right. Metallica is the demons

623
00:56:36,200 --> 00:56:42,440
music. Yeah. That was such an 80s thing too. I don't know. That was the Satan, Satan panic.

624
00:56:42,440 --> 00:56:47,480
What do you call it? Yeah, like, yeah, same panics. A good word for them. There's some

625
00:56:47,480 --> 00:56:58,960
sort of rhyming phone. She sells sanctuary by the cult. It was satanic panic. I was like,

626
00:56:58,960 --> 00:57:05,480
I knew there was a rhyme for it. I just realized I'm not a child of babies. I've been like talking

627
00:57:05,480 --> 00:57:13,200
to myself. Satanic panic. Yeah. Yeah. There was a lot of great 80s music in this. Like

628
00:57:13,200 --> 00:57:21,480
I was really enjoying it. Like the, the, all of them were like really on the nose though.

629
00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:31,560
The Metallica. Yeah. Yeah. Like, I just can't believe like that. Yeah, they made some of

630
00:57:31,560 --> 00:57:35,800
the choices they made. I'm pulling up the soundtrack right now. Just because I remember

631
00:57:35,800 --> 00:57:42,800
there being all sorts of stuff that was kind of good little. Yeah, it just was it wasn't

632
00:57:42,800 --> 00:57:49,040
as natural as it could have been. And it really was just like almost jump cut and then start

633
00:57:49,040 --> 00:57:53,920
a song, which, which can work and, you know, like change the tone, change the pace and

634
00:57:53,920 --> 00:58:01,240
like edit to a different, different thing. But some of it jives, some of it was a little

635
00:58:01,240 --> 00:58:07,920
either. Yeah. Two on the nose or just what? But, you know, I believe it wasn't like, Russell

636
00:58:07,920 --> 00:58:12,920
Crowell is like cruising on a Vespa to the song with some good stuff. Yeah. That's good

637
00:58:12,920 --> 00:58:17,800
stuff. Oh, there's really not that many songs. Is there only, there's only three songs in

638
00:58:17,800 --> 00:58:18,800
the movie?

639
00:58:18,800 --> 00:58:26,080
Or listening to music. Yeah. Oh, I thought there was more. Yeah. Maybe it's kind of at

640
00:58:26,080 --> 00:58:31,520
the beginning. And then yeah, like the kids just really like just blasting music on their

641
00:58:31,520 --> 00:58:37,880
headphones and screw you, mom. I'm going to smoke on top of the stairwell and get a cigarette

642
00:58:37,880 --> 00:58:46,480
from and the the hanks from that girl. Holy shit. I know. So what did you think about?

643
00:58:46,480 --> 00:58:52,880
What did you think about? Like, yeah, the, the, the sister? What was her name? Oh, I

644
00:58:52,880 --> 00:58:57,840
don't know. Her performance, her performance, you guys are, it sounds like you guys are

645
00:58:57,840 --> 00:59:03,400
a little disappointed. I'm a little if you on the whole family, honestly, like just,

646
00:59:03,400 --> 00:59:09,880
and I don't want to be too disparaging outright, but just it didn't really do it for me. And

647
00:59:09,880 --> 00:59:13,800
I'm not sure if it's all their fault necessarily either, because what they're set up for is

648
00:59:13,800 --> 00:59:20,080
really the formula, kind of, you know, scared in a house as a family sort of parts of the

649
00:59:20,080 --> 00:59:27,240
movie. But being scared, being scared and terrified, it didn't, they didn't portray

650
00:59:27,240 --> 00:59:33,400
it for me in a way that made it interesting because I think the entire movie, the mom

651
00:59:33,400 --> 00:59:39,320
had the same face, the entire movie of just pure of just horror and being scared and worrying.

652
00:59:39,320 --> 00:59:44,240
Naturally, your child is, you know, in throughout the whole thing, but I just a little variation.

653
00:59:44,240 --> 00:59:48,920
And then I don't know some of the, no, you're on the, you're on the money, man. Like all

654
00:59:48,920 --> 00:59:55,480
of the supporting cast in this movie is really forgettable outside of like, um, yeah, just

655
00:59:55,480 --> 01:00:02,360
almost everybody. I don't know that like the, what is it? It's, uh, the African Bishop.

656
01:00:02,360 --> 01:00:08,040
He was cool. I liked him a lot. He was good. But yeah, he was good. I love that guy. So

657
01:00:08,040 --> 01:00:12,120
yeah, I agree with you that the supporting cast, especially the mother was really a drag

658
01:00:12,120 --> 01:00:16,680
because I think the daughter was kind of giving what needed to be given in that. So it wasn't

659
01:00:16,680 --> 01:00:22,000
totally, you know, I don't really have too much to say about it, but yeah, the mother

660
01:00:22,000 --> 01:00:33,240
and then also the partner priest was the, the protege. I don't know, man. I would just,

661
01:00:33,240 --> 01:00:36,440
he's going to grow into his own. He's going to be like a Luke Skywalker where he starts

662
01:00:36,440 --> 01:00:41,120
out like a weenie and then he kind of rises. He's getting some damage. He's got some battle

663
01:00:41,120 --> 01:00:43,720
scars from getting his ear bit off and shit.

664
01:00:43,720 --> 01:00:48,960
That looks so hokey at the end there. It was like the faked cover. I've ever like covering

665
01:00:48,960 --> 01:00:52,640
his ear. I've ever seen in my life and it was like clean to you. There was no blood or

666
01:00:52,640 --> 01:00:58,480
viscera. Wow. They grew clean. That wound. That holy water really did the fucking trick.

667
01:00:58,480 --> 01:01:00,640
He's just like holy water.

668
01:01:00,640 --> 01:01:05,560
All the time. Yeah. That bothered me that it was so clean. Like I was like, come on now.

669
01:01:05,560 --> 01:01:09,560
Like there should be somebody needs to be dressing that up a little and all the things

670
01:01:09,560 --> 01:01:15,000
that we're allotting for Russell, Russell Crowe for is kind of missing in him when he

671
01:01:15,000 --> 01:01:22,720
does in fact have that side of him. He has a dog. He has a side that isn't fully, you

672
01:01:22,720 --> 01:01:27,560
know, thrive or strive with the Catholic church and has his last confession was like eight

673
01:01:27,560 --> 01:01:33,600
months ago. It's just that doesn't really read for me whether he is like has a different

674
01:01:33,600 --> 01:01:38,920
side of him that is clear or he doesn't and he's hiding it. I don't get either because

675
01:01:38,920 --> 01:01:43,320
I don't really get that he's hiding. Yeah. I like and if he does, it's very subtle. And

676
01:01:43,320 --> 01:01:46,640
yeah, like even when he says like, oh, like, oh, it's been like eight months. It's just

677
01:01:46,640 --> 01:01:51,440
such a throwaway matter of fact way of saying it. And there's no weight to that. Like it's

678
01:01:51,440 --> 01:01:55,400
been like you should be kind of embarrassed to say this to the Pope's exorcist that it's

679
01:01:55,400 --> 01:01:59,720
been eight months. Like he just kind of throws away the line a bit and and then Russell Crowe

680
01:01:59,720 --> 01:02:04,520
is such a good guy. He's like, oh, I'm going to react because I'm an ally. Like he just

681
01:02:04,520 --> 01:02:11,160
he brings so much weight to things when he's he's there. And then when he's not it and

682
01:02:11,160 --> 01:02:16,040
there is a portion when it is just the younger priests with the family. And yeah, it's a

683
01:02:16,040 --> 01:02:21,800
little bit more snoozy generic whorem whorem view what you would expect from a movie called

684
01:02:21,800 --> 01:02:26,000
Pope's Exorcist that doesn't feature Russell Crowe and has some other no name or something.

685
01:02:26,000 --> 01:02:30,880
Okay. Okay. Here's a question. So for the sequel, if you could build your dream team

686
01:02:30,880 --> 01:02:34,760
of other exorcists from around the world that back him up to go.

687
01:02:34,760 --> 01:02:42,440
Can you write this movie, please? Honestly, well, yeah, but I think we can we'll just

688
01:02:42,440 --> 01:02:49,560
make a knockoff one just like like don't have to. But man, like I like this idea like like

689
01:02:49,560 --> 01:02:54,840
a lot like I wish I could write the next one. But like I was thinking like if you had like

690
01:02:54,840 --> 01:02:59,560
if we had Wolverine, what's his fucking name? Hugh Jackman. Hugh Jackman. Oh my God. It would

691
01:02:59,560 --> 01:03:07,560
be a kick ass exorcist. Yeah. I'd like the idea of just all Australia.

692
01:03:07,560 --> 01:03:16,760
Oh, that's a different country. Maybe he can like AI some like all the hands worth boys.

693
01:03:16,760 --> 01:03:22,960
I was gonna see who played the Joker, but he's dead. Fucking. Yeah, dude. Let's see if we

694
01:03:22,960 --> 01:03:28,480
could AI Heath Ledger into that piece as like the young up and coming priests. I think you

695
01:03:28,480 --> 01:03:32,920
can see that driver in there. I'm just lacking Australian actors right now. I'm trying to

696
01:03:32,920 --> 01:03:40,080
think of more. You really are going full. I'm bottom of the barrel. Yeah. Yeah. We could

697
01:03:40,080 --> 01:03:49,400
get Kegaroo Jack in there. Charlize. What's your dream team exorcist like like international

698
01:03:49,400 --> 01:03:55,200
exorcist team? You know, if this is your mission impossible team, but it's all these

699
01:03:55,200 --> 01:04:01,200
exorcists for the sequel. Oh, see. So we're getting one from, you know, every pocket.

700
01:04:01,200 --> 01:04:11,720
We get Lou Lou in there. You could get, you know, fucking. I got mine. People. So my

701
01:04:11,720 --> 01:04:22,320
dream, my dream team is obviously Father Gabrielle, Russell Crowe, then Paul Benton, Betney.

702
01:04:22,320 --> 01:04:29,680
Oh, wow. Okay. And then I would do Johnny Depp because they've come together. No, no,

703
01:04:29,680 --> 01:04:34,960
no. So you're thinking of like, oh, they're like, you're actually crossing. Yeah, Meryl

704
01:04:34,960 --> 01:04:42,120
Street. Oh, from doubt. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, are you pulling in different? Oh, I see. Oh,

705
01:04:42,120 --> 01:04:45,120
yeah. You did dementia code already. Oh, okay. Attention. Catch up.

706
01:04:45,120 --> 01:04:58,920
All right. Hey, settle down. So all right. Paul Beton. Oh, wow. Any other anybody else?

707
01:04:58,920 --> 01:05:02,600
You're going to get a little Nikki's going to show up on the other side somehow. There's

708
01:05:02,600 --> 01:05:07,760
going to be a battle. I would do Keanu. That would be a constant team. Keanu. Yeah. Constant

709
01:05:07,760 --> 01:05:13,360
Keanu. That's you could get Edward Norton from keeping the faith. I was totally thinking

710
01:05:13,360 --> 01:05:18,360
that too. Good call. I was totally picturing Edward. He like, he fits that look really

711
01:05:18,360 --> 01:05:27,440
well in the. Yeah. Or you could do Robert De Niro from Sleepers. Boom. Line them up.

712
01:05:27,440 --> 01:05:31,240
Line them up. So we're actually just we're just going to cross. It's all in the same

713
01:05:31,240 --> 01:05:37,840
universe. This would be a way to tackle those 199 because if we did a montage of all these

714
01:05:37,840 --> 01:05:44,680
different guys coming out of retirement to heed the call so they could save the world

715
01:05:44,680 --> 01:05:50,560
from what is what is the devil? There's the devil that they killed in this one. It starts

716
01:05:50,560 --> 01:05:54,680
with an A, but then there was a little teaser to a new devil like a new demon at the end

717
01:05:54,680 --> 01:05:58,160
that was kind of cool. Let's start with like a C. Okay, but here's here's my problem is

718
01:05:58,160 --> 01:06:02,520
the demon that they kill in this movie is the king of hell. King of hell. They can find

719
01:06:02,520 --> 01:06:08,520
anyone as a gay as Moses name as something like that. I've heard of him before. I'm

720
01:06:08,520 --> 01:06:15,040
familiar. So like, like there's well, I honestly, I really like demonology movies and shit

721
01:06:15,040 --> 01:06:21,080
like that. Like my favorite. We'll talk about this in a minute. But so as the day is, it's

722
01:06:21,080 --> 01:06:24,840
who they kill in this movie and they're talking about early day exercise and they send him

723
01:06:24,840 --> 01:06:31,000
back to hell. He's the king of hell. So my problem is, is they, they punch too far up

724
01:06:31,000 --> 01:06:34,880
to the top. Like I'm saying, you know, yeah, I guess the next movie they could fight the

725
01:06:34,880 --> 01:06:39,400
devil himself, but that's honestly, I feel like a little, you know, the whole thing they

726
01:06:39,400 --> 01:06:42,800
were saying is the devil can't come up here. So it says, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

727
01:06:42,800 --> 01:06:49,040
So like, man, there's a power struggle now. And they're sleeping. They shouldn't have

728
01:06:49,040 --> 01:06:52,400
fought as Medea's till the third movie or something. You know what I'm saying? It's

729
01:06:52,400 --> 01:06:56,240
like, if you're going to set it up for a prequel, you needed to give us some lower level lackey

730
01:06:56,240 --> 01:07:01,240
and hell. And then we needed to work our way up the chain. The next, next, the sequel could

731
01:07:01,240 --> 01:07:05,760
be busting heads and like, you know, dragging demons out and being like, you know, who do

732
01:07:05,760 --> 01:07:09,080
you work for? Kind of thing. You know, just a real beat cop.

733
01:07:09,080 --> 01:07:12,280
I still think there's a lot. There's a lot out there.

734
01:07:12,280 --> 01:07:18,160
What I was going to say, Lilith and fucking, but I mean, he's the king. They beat the king

735
01:07:18,160 --> 01:07:21,160
of hell. I'm just saying it's going to be a weaker demons. Now they're going to fight

736
01:07:21,160 --> 01:07:26,120
like multiple like that. That's not entirely true. And so I would just hang up hell.

737
01:07:26,120 --> 01:07:32,240
I would just tell you that you don't want another movie that is setting itself up purposely

738
01:07:32,240 --> 01:07:35,080
for a franchise. I think we benefit from this.

739
01:07:35,080 --> 01:07:38,080
It's just not doing that. And really,

740
01:07:38,080 --> 01:07:41,720
they're cookie cutter franchise being built. Like they have a whole map and everything

741
01:07:41,720 --> 01:07:45,480
of like, here's where I understand that. I don't think the intention is to make it a

742
01:07:45,480 --> 01:07:51,040
franchise. We're jokingly saying it could be a franchise, but I disagree. Yeah. Cause

743
01:07:51,040 --> 01:07:53,440
it's like, I hate when movies do that a lot of times.

744
01:07:53,440 --> 01:07:58,400
I feel like they said it. You don't think there's going to be another one.

745
01:07:58,400 --> 01:08:02,400
I think I think how they did it was a good.

746
01:08:02,400 --> 01:08:05,400
I think they totally said it off.

747
01:08:05,400 --> 01:08:09,040
It felt like it was hands spoon fed to us that they're going to make another one. If

748
01:08:09,040 --> 01:08:10,600
enough people like this movie,

749
01:08:10,600 --> 01:08:17,200
what you're saying though is you wanted it to be less of a serious issue and like, oh,

750
01:08:17,200 --> 01:08:20,640
like, oh, it's not the king of hell. It's like this Joe.

751
01:08:20,640 --> 01:08:26,240
I'm just saying, I'm just saying, what I'm saying is no,

752
01:08:26,240 --> 01:08:28,440
the working man's doing.

753
01:08:28,440 --> 01:08:32,240
I'm saying they do the same thing that they did throughout the movie, but they say that

754
01:08:32,240 --> 01:08:37,760
was just the beginning. There's much more powerful demons than this. What I'm saying

755
01:08:37,760 --> 01:08:45,200
is they named off, they pick somebody at the, at the tier of demons. This guy is up here.

756
01:08:45,200 --> 01:08:49,760
And if this would have been a lower level one, then you have some place to go.

757
01:08:49,760 --> 01:08:50,760
Right.

758
01:08:50,760 --> 01:08:51,760
Like I would just,

759
01:08:51,760 --> 01:08:54,360
I have a hundred and nine places.

760
01:08:54,360 --> 01:08:57,440
So a sequel needs to hit back twice as hard in my opinion.

761
01:08:57,440 --> 01:08:58,440
Okay.

762
01:08:58,440 --> 01:09:02,440
And so like, if you're going to set something up for a sequel, then you don't take out,

763
01:09:02,440 --> 01:09:08,600
like, you know, you don't take out the right hand of like the crime organization in your

764
01:09:08,600 --> 01:09:11,400
first episode of a show or something like that.

765
01:09:11,400 --> 01:09:14,440
Because then now, like, I mean, I'm just saying,

766
01:09:14,440 --> 01:09:18,000
I think there's a way, I think there's a path forward if they want to do it. And if

767
01:09:18,000 --> 01:09:22,960
they're not, it's a good, it's a good movie encapsulated in itself. And I don't know,

768
01:09:22,960 --> 01:09:26,640
I'm not concerned, not as concerned about it. And if it does come along, I'm sure they'll

769
01:09:26,640 --> 01:09:31,440
find some, some way to do it. That's without, without the king of hell. I'm sure there's

770
01:09:31,440 --> 01:09:36,280
other, other directions, but for what this is, I think it's, it's okay. And I kind of

771
01:09:36,280 --> 01:09:43,200
like the little like, little like trail at the end, they leave a little trail, but then

772
01:09:43,200 --> 01:09:47,880
they also have the epilogue too. And it's, I was able to have all those things in it for

773
01:09:47,880 --> 01:09:53,200
me to not feel like they're having their cakey needing to two is kind of satisfying. And

774
01:09:53,200 --> 01:09:58,840
that's why I see movies a lot of times is to know that there is going to be an ending

775
01:09:58,840 --> 01:10:02,320
in a lot of, you know, a lot of TV shows and a lot of, there's plenty of other movies out

776
01:10:02,320 --> 01:10:07,280
there that give you such a fat fucking cliffhanger that is never going to be resolved that yeah,

777
01:10:07,280 --> 01:10:13,360
yeah, yeah, they, they conquered this one and there's so many, I see so many paths forward

778
01:10:13,360 --> 01:10:20,560
and I never expected going into this movie to give a fuck and it surprised me to be like,

779
01:10:20,560 --> 01:10:25,600
what are his future adventures as the fucking Pope's answers to, I want to know, and like,

780
01:10:25,600 --> 01:10:31,880
who's this guy, like you, the guy got relocated to a different place and he was the one that

781
01:10:31,880 --> 01:10:38,000
saw the fucking Jesus on the cross bleeding the statue and then his eyes started like,

782
01:10:38,000 --> 01:10:42,360
what's up with him? He's in a whole new pair or whatever. And he's like fucking possessed

783
01:10:42,360 --> 01:10:48,440
probably. So there's a whole, you can run with that. You're right. There's so many like,

784
01:10:48,440 --> 01:10:52,520
and it's like, that's how Van Helsing ended. I remember it was like, Oh, this is just the

785
01:10:52,520 --> 01:10:55,840
beginning Van Helsing. They go to the little workshop and it's like James Bond. And it's

786
01:10:55,840 --> 01:11:01,240
like, Oh, you can, and it reminded me of like him going into the lab and Q kind of showing

787
01:11:01,240 --> 01:11:08,040
up and being like, yes, hello, double Pope sexes is seven. This is our map of the world.

788
01:11:08,040 --> 01:11:13,760
And this is all the slaving agents and you have to go take them out and all of your new

789
01:11:13,760 --> 01:11:19,080
squad and you need to go delegate them. And oh God, there's, there's a, I don't want

790
01:11:19,080 --> 01:11:24,520
it to turn into that. I would hear. Yeah. Like I don't want it to, but I like, I definitely,

791
01:11:24,520 --> 01:11:30,920
if this moves from like into like a horror James Bond formulae, like I don't think I'd

792
01:11:30,920 --> 01:11:36,240
like that. I maybe, but like, I don't, I think this year, right? That this is nice because

793
01:11:36,240 --> 01:11:43,920
it is it, it can be a contains little thing or this is a new formula. They wanted to expand

794
01:11:43,920 --> 01:11:48,600
it and then us people like it. They could. Yeah. But it could just be a single, singular

795
01:11:48,600 --> 01:11:53,880
movie. And this in itself is a single movie is a new formula, at least the latter half,

796
01:11:53,880 --> 01:11:58,880
which we should talk a little bit more about before moving on to reviews is it ditches

797
01:11:58,880 --> 01:12:05,200
the, the first like three quarters is like the old tired ass formula of, of exorcist

798
01:12:05,200 --> 01:12:08,960
of them going to the bed and trying and doing all that stuff. And then at the end here,

799
01:12:08,960 --> 01:12:13,640
I feel like we should just talk a little bit about he gets fucking possessed and there's

800
01:12:13,640 --> 01:12:18,800
the whole thing at the bottom of the house. And then he goes full mummy mouth like, oh,

801
01:12:18,800 --> 01:12:26,720
yeah, is so fucking fun and stupid and cool and shawking. And there's like, they find

802
01:12:26,720 --> 01:12:31,360
the guy in the skeleton in the cage and it's like, he wasn't trapped in here. They like

803
01:12:31,360 --> 01:12:35,640
this cage was protecting him and he was the last one to be left there while they closed

804
01:12:35,640 --> 01:12:40,280
it all up. He drops the match and the well and it's all full of gas and everything. And

805
01:12:40,280 --> 01:12:44,360
then he tells us the story about the past, you know, I that could have been a little

806
01:12:44,360 --> 01:12:49,280
bit more fleshed out or it could have just had more of a meaning of him, you know, dealing

807
01:12:49,280 --> 01:12:57,040
with a past, you know, but then that that issue and then the demons using the sins against

808
01:12:57,040 --> 01:13:02,280
both of them. And then these two women, one being nude and covered in blood and then and

809
01:13:02,280 --> 01:13:09,000
the other and the other one for for him as well of the girl that jumped was really great,

810
01:13:09,000 --> 01:13:13,560
horror fun, horror scene that was like, I didn't, you know, expect this is new, like

811
01:13:13,560 --> 01:13:18,280
two priests are battling their demons and like there's like physical representation,

812
01:13:18,280 --> 01:13:22,600
manifestations of their demons of their sins and they're using it against it. Cool shit.

813
01:13:22,600 --> 01:13:30,120
But when the like the mother Mary pops up behind them, that's shot looks amazing. And

814
01:13:30,120 --> 01:13:35,400
then when yeah, Russell Crowe gets possessed, best part of the movie, and he just starts

815
01:13:35,400 --> 01:13:36,960
throwing himself around the house.

816
01:13:36,960 --> 01:13:50,200
I could just watch that for an hour. And then they put the crucifixes to their heads and

817
01:13:50,200 --> 01:13:56,080
they fucking explode in blood. I'm like, yes, this is all like the cheat, like more horror

818
01:13:56,080 --> 01:14:02,080
like cheesy B B movie sort of fun stuff that it should have done more of. Yeah. And then

819
01:14:02,080 --> 01:14:10,720
they yeah, it's it just what what happens? How do they I forget exactly how? Oh, like

820
01:14:10,720 --> 01:14:17,240
it's like put into the lake or like the water or whatever. Yeah. That's a cool effect. Oh

821
01:14:17,240 --> 01:14:22,400
my god. The visuals of this movie are really fantastic at the end of it. I mean, honestly,

822
01:14:22,400 --> 01:14:29,320
throughout a lot of this movie, I think there are plenty of movies that are that could have

823
01:14:29,320 --> 01:14:34,440
been this movie that will look like shit. And I think this director is pretty competent.

824
01:14:34,440 --> 01:14:38,400
I think there was a lot of stuff in here. There's some highlights for sure. Yeah, visually

825
01:14:38,400 --> 01:14:45,480
really cool and interesting. Yeah. And yeah, that whole chair underneath and shit and the

826
01:14:45,480 --> 01:14:52,800
pool and the explode like yeah, they explode like they're a bag of blood was so crazy.

827
01:14:52,800 --> 01:14:57,040
That was more rain-ish like they needed more of the rainy, rainy kind of some skellies

828
01:14:57,040 --> 01:15:04,120
popping up or something. Sure. This was creative, though. It was at points. It did things that

829
01:15:04,120 --> 01:15:10,600
I did not expect it to do and it was fun while I did it. Yeah. Absolutely exciting. Such

830
01:15:10,600 --> 01:15:17,280
an adventure. You know, because I this movie traffics and going from being a horror movie

831
01:15:17,280 --> 01:15:24,680
to being such a more leaning into the adventure side of it, like a lot of fighting spirits,

832
01:15:24,680 --> 01:15:28,920
battles, that kind of stuff, which you don't get typically in a horror movie. Sure, you'll

833
01:15:28,920 --> 01:15:35,200
have a like a big conflict at the end. But I mean, this was just a lot of special effects

834
01:15:35,200 --> 01:15:39,400
that looked pretty decent. I enjoyed a lot of the special effects. I thought, yeah, the

835
01:15:39,400 --> 01:15:46,880
very rainy ask a lot of combination of horror and yeah, I don't know, bad assery. Brandon,

836
01:15:46,880 --> 01:15:53,240
would you rather would you rather this like the sequel to this be a video game? No, it

837
01:15:53,240 --> 01:15:57,280
sounds like you're describing a video game, though. You're like it's like like a like

838
01:15:57,280 --> 01:16:02,800
a silent Hill type like horror adventure video game. I mean, I'm playing essentially that

839
01:16:02,800 --> 01:16:07,440
right now without you're playing a game where you're an exorcist. No, no, but like a, you

840
01:16:07,440 --> 01:16:17,640
know, a video game, a horror video game that traffics as well in some of it is very kind

841
01:16:17,640 --> 01:16:25,320
of that element. Demony sure, but like it traffics in two things. It goes like there's

842
01:16:25,320 --> 01:16:31,840
the horror element that involves demons and then there's the adventure side that traffics

843
01:16:31,840 --> 01:16:36,440
and demons to tell us the name of this or is it a secret game? No, no, no, I said it

844
01:16:36,440 --> 01:16:45,440
Alan Wake, too. It's like a guy's name. Yep. Yeah, the first one was just called Alan

845
01:16:45,440 --> 01:16:53,840
Wake. The cousins of like Johnny Quest. No, no, it's the brother. It's the brother of

846
01:16:53,840 --> 01:16:59,720
Dr. Sleep, brother in law. Oh, really? Yeah, but he's got it. But Dr. Sleep got the doctor.

847
01:16:59,720 --> 01:17:07,360
Oh, that's cool. Yeah, sleep and work, you know. I'll go through some of my notes before

848
01:17:07,360 --> 01:17:14,240
we move on. Let's see here. We left everything for this and it's like, she's daughters all

849
01:17:14,240 --> 01:17:20,480
mad and then it's like, wow, look at this huge castle. I'd be stoked. Yeah, the cuckoo

850
01:17:20,480 --> 01:17:24,440
baby Pete Davidson. I know the kid kind of looked like a little baby Pete Davidson to

851
01:17:24,440 --> 01:17:31,480
me for some reason. Funny. Yeah, they use the flare to like look into the house. It's

852
01:17:31,480 --> 01:17:35,640
like, can you guys just use a fucking flashlight? But then it of course, explodes in their faces

853
01:17:35,640 --> 01:17:40,440
and that's like the catalyst. But it's like, let's just waste this whole flag just to look

854
01:17:40,440 --> 01:17:44,560
a little closer. It's like, just get your fucking flashlight guys. Come on. That seems

855
01:17:44,560 --> 01:17:52,840
insane. Drinks cool as cool glasses and writes books. I was just like writing all the cool

856
01:17:52,840 --> 01:18:01,680
things about this character. My name is friends winning the World Cup. I got prayer has more

857
01:18:01,680 --> 01:18:06,400
power in Latin. I just like that. That's that's a rule. Same. There's a couple rules that

858
01:18:06,400 --> 01:18:11,960
are like that. He's just like, like, yeah, it's more power. Yeah, say the one suck getting

859
01:18:11,960 --> 01:18:16,040
hurry getting sucked into the bed was a pretty cool practical effect. Like you can just get

860
01:18:16,040 --> 01:18:19,640
two mattresses, put them sheet in the middle and just suck her down with somebody's arm

861
01:18:19,640 --> 01:18:26,000
reaching up from underneath like cool, that's a cool practical effect. Like she wakes up,

862
01:18:26,000 --> 01:18:29,560
there's an arm there and it just sucks. Like that is that in that's like a nightmare on

863
01:18:29,560 --> 01:18:34,680
Elm Street kind of thing too. That looks freakiest buck like all day and everybody's had that

864
01:18:34,680 --> 01:18:41,520
like sleep like paralysis or like shit like that. That's easily like visually you can

865
01:18:41,520 --> 01:18:45,520
immediately relate to like the nightmare of that.

866
01:18:45,520 --> 01:18:50,400
There's that point where he throws like a human skull into his buddy's lap as a joke.

867
01:18:50,400 --> 01:18:52,800
I'm like, okay, you're taking a little too far there.

868
01:18:52,800 --> 01:18:57,880
He's like, Hey, it's a human skull that I picked up from as well that goes out of the

869
01:18:57,880 --> 01:19:01,320
Spanish. You can do me follow me. He's like, what the fuck?

870
01:19:01,320 --> 01:19:06,840
You're kind of desecrating a corpse buddy. You're being a little bit cavalier with the

871
01:19:06,840 --> 01:19:07,840
previous.

872
01:19:07,840 --> 01:19:13,560
Yeah. And the girl completely turns her head around or like gets her head completely turned

873
01:19:13,560 --> 01:19:18,640
around and then she's totally fine after I was like, Oh, wow, they're actually going

874
01:19:18,640 --> 01:19:23,800
to kill her. Wow. That's okay. And then she just gets up and is fine. I'm like, yeah,

875
01:19:23,800 --> 01:19:32,080
at least be like, Oh, well kink of my neck or something. But oh yeah, mummy mouth. Yeah,

876
01:19:32,080 --> 01:19:37,720
that was cool. A couple, couple versions of the kid and him.

877
01:19:37,720 --> 01:19:45,880
I love the Russell Crowe doing it is just that as a as a gift or something. I shall pray

878
01:19:45,880 --> 01:19:50,480
for Guam because that one guy gets relocated there. So yeah, expect the sequel then to

879
01:19:50,480 --> 01:19:55,840
go to Guam and him to be like just having a whole like comm you have demons that he's

880
01:19:55,840 --> 01:19:56,840
been raising.

881
01:19:56,840 --> 01:20:00,320
He does have the James Bond thing. Now that I think about it, you're right. He has all

882
01:20:00,320 --> 01:20:05,720
his little quips to say. Everybody. Yeah. Anybody gives him a little bit of information. He

883
01:20:05,720 --> 01:20:11,200
has a drink. He drinks a dope. Yeah, dude, you're right. Like this is James Bond. He's

884
01:20:11,200 --> 01:20:20,080
got a great case or whatever. Yeah, little gadgets all in it. And so and he also drives

885
01:20:20,080 --> 01:20:22,320
his Vespa all the way from Italy to Spain.

886
01:20:22,320 --> 01:20:28,000
That's amazing because they show the whole montage of him going like and it's like, oh,

887
01:20:28,000 --> 01:20:30,400
he's got his vest and he's like on the dirt roads. I'm like,

888
01:20:30,400 --> 01:20:33,400
he just rolls it.

889
01:20:33,400 --> 01:20:44,640
He gets off the Vespa at the Abbey and he's just shaking. He's like when blown.

890
01:20:44,640 --> 01:20:53,680
I just, I like, I like to watch the whole ride from Italy to Spain and then little cuts

891
01:20:53,680 --> 01:20:58,640
of just cuts of him riding and then eating different things along the way and then cutting

892
01:20:58,640 --> 01:21:02,280
right back to riding him, eating, riding, eating like that.

893
01:21:02,280 --> 01:21:04,440
A movie of Russell Crowe eating. Yes, please.

894
01:21:04,440 --> 01:21:10,520
Yes, please. Yeah, but still just on a Vespa though. Like he has to stay on the best with

895
01:21:10,520 --> 01:21:11,520
the whole time.

896
01:21:11,520 --> 01:21:15,840
Like I imagine you as a director, okay, Russell, you're going to be eating on the best, but

897
01:21:15,840 --> 01:21:18,480
you got to stay on the best for the entire time.

898
01:21:18,480 --> 01:21:23,480
It's all street food. He has to pull up, eat it while and then like go. Yeah, like, you

899
01:21:23,480 --> 01:21:27,320
know, if he has to go to the bathroom, that's the only time he can get off.

900
01:21:27,320 --> 01:21:29,760
That's just for the viewers.

901
01:21:29,760 --> 01:21:36,080
Let's do some reviews from critics and audiences. But before that, I'm going to take a bathroom

902
01:21:36,080 --> 01:21:40,240
break and we'll be right back.

903
01:21:40,240 --> 01:21:44,760
We'll go back everybody. We're going to go through some reviews of the Pope's Exorcist,

904
01:21:44,760 --> 01:21:52,760
a 49% from the critics and 81% from the audience. Let's see some critic reviews from the Poopy

905
01:21:52,760 --> 01:21:56,720
Doopie Snoopy range.

906
01:21:56,720 --> 01:22:02,040
You know, I occasionally like to pick some, some random ones on the rotten tomato site

907
01:22:02,040 --> 01:22:09,400
because it just gives a kind of a look into some of the other publications that are represented,

908
01:22:09,400 --> 01:22:13,320
but we'll, so just as a heads up, we're going to be jumping around here. We'll start with

909
01:22:13,320 --> 01:22:19,760
Oliver Jones from Observer, one out of four, an absurdly plotted blood drenched haunted

910
01:22:19,760 --> 01:22:25,320
house movie with all the vitality and vivaciousness of a 15th century corpse.

911
01:22:25,320 --> 01:22:32,200
Oh, from Luke Thompson, AV club, a tighter edit focus purely on the crazy bits could

912
01:22:32,200 --> 01:22:39,440
be a big, big cult hit as it is, as is it might be time just right for a 420 viewing with

913
01:22:39,440 --> 01:22:40,920
plenty of smoke breaks.

914
01:22:40,920 --> 01:22:41,920
Yeah.

915
01:22:41,920 --> 01:22:42,920
That's it.

916
01:22:42,920 --> 01:22:47,600
I guess that he still didn't like it.

917
01:22:47,600 --> 01:22:51,600
Well, maybe he just was more.

918
01:22:51,600 --> 01:22:59,720
Yeah, you know, you know, the problem is from Bill J. Abiri from Vulture, the Pope's Exorcist

919
01:22:59,720 --> 01:23:06,720
may not be a comedy, but it does sometimes feel like a joke on us.

920
01:23:06,720 --> 01:23:11,240
Now, this guy is funny.

921
01:23:11,240 --> 01:23:15,520
Let's see what else. I guess I'm doing some of the bigger, bigger publications from Guardian,

922
01:23:15,520 --> 01:23:18,240
Mike McKihill.

923
01:23:18,240 --> 01:23:23,360
Crow is by far the film's strongest suit, preempting some of our giggler responses and

924
01:23:23,360 --> 01:23:26,520
mitigating against some of the material's flimsiness.

925
01:23:26,520 --> 01:23:31,920
Two out of five.

926
01:23:31,920 --> 01:23:34,800
I like that he used the word giggler.

927
01:23:34,800 --> 01:23:35,800
Right.

928
01:23:35,800 --> 01:23:38,800
So for the Guardian, and I use the word giggler.

929
01:23:38,800 --> 01:23:45,720
A little giggler today from Guy Lodge from Variety.

930
01:23:45,720 --> 01:23:52,600
If this hysterical hack work has any soul at all, Crow just about saves it.

931
01:23:52,600 --> 01:23:54,680
That guy's name was Guy Lodge.

932
01:23:54,680 --> 01:23:56,800
Guy Lodge from Variety.

933
01:23:56,800 --> 01:23:57,800
Guy Lodge.

934
01:23:57,800 --> 01:24:00,800
Sounds like a fake name.

935
01:24:00,800 --> 01:24:01,800
What do you hire?

936
01:24:01,800 --> 01:24:02,800
What do you hire?

937
01:24:02,800 --> 01:24:03,800
Guy Lodge.

938
01:24:03,800 --> 01:24:07,800
Like what are your secrets, buddy?

939
01:24:07,800 --> 01:24:10,960
He gave Goodfellas a 94.

940
01:24:10,960 --> 01:24:13,240
What else is he?

941
01:24:13,240 --> 01:24:17,560
He's reviewed a fair amount of movies that I do not know.

942
01:24:17,560 --> 01:24:19,560
I'd give Goodfellas a 98.

943
01:24:19,560 --> 01:24:22,560
So fuck you, Guy Lodge.

944
01:24:22,560 --> 01:24:25,600
We don't have to go.

945
01:24:25,600 --> 01:24:27,520
He's done his work, though.

946
01:24:27,520 --> 01:24:28,520
Let's see.

947
01:24:28,520 --> 01:24:31,520
I'm not trying to talk about you, Guy Lodge.

948
01:24:31,520 --> 01:24:35,120
I was like, this is an interesting name.

949
01:24:35,120 --> 01:24:38,000
The negative, or the, sorry, that was the negative side.

950
01:24:38,000 --> 01:24:42,280
This is the positive side from the audience, an 81%.

951
01:24:42,280 --> 01:24:46,200
Let's see some reviews here and what the people have to say.

952
01:24:46,200 --> 01:24:47,200
These are the people.

953
01:24:47,200 --> 01:24:54,160
From Maret Gurgis, 5 stars, as an avid enthusiast of horror movies, I must say that this film

954
01:24:54,160 --> 01:24:58,480
went above and beyond my expectations in terms of keeping me engrossed and captivated by

955
01:24:58,480 --> 01:25:00,600
its unfolding events.

956
01:25:00,600 --> 01:25:04,240
It successfully managed to avoid the cliches often associated with the genre, which was

957
01:25:04,240 --> 01:25:05,480
truly refreshing.

958
01:25:05,480 --> 01:25:09,360
Personally, I adored this movie and I firmly believe that it has the potential to inspire

959
01:25:09,360 --> 01:25:13,440
a sense of religious devotion in viewers.

960
01:25:13,440 --> 01:25:18,280
The inclusion of the Pope as an authentic character in real life only adds to the intrigue,

961
01:25:18,280 --> 01:25:20,520
making me even more eager to watch it.

962
01:25:20,520 --> 01:25:24,520
The entire cast delivered excellent performances, leaving me thoroughly impressed.

963
01:25:24,520 --> 01:25:28,080
I cannot emphasize enough how much I love this film.

964
01:25:28,080 --> 01:25:29,720
It was an absolute gem.

965
01:25:29,720 --> 01:25:33,880
I can't help but express my anticipation for a potential sequel to this movie.

966
01:25:33,880 --> 01:25:38,200
I'm absolutely hooked and yearn for a continuation, either based on real life events or another

967
01:25:38,200 --> 01:25:41,240
chilling exorcist story from the same universe.

968
01:25:41,240 --> 01:25:44,800
The thought of experiencing more of this captivating narrative leaves me eagerly awaiting what the

969
01:25:44,800 --> 01:25:47,000
future holds.

970
01:25:47,000 --> 01:25:50,880
Keep creating such compelling movies and I'll be first on line to witness the next chapter

971
01:25:50,880 --> 01:25:54,920
unfold.

972
01:25:54,920 --> 01:25:55,920
From RB007.

973
01:25:55,920 --> 01:25:56,920
Nice.

974
01:25:56,920 --> 01:25:57,920
They're good.

975
01:25:57,920 --> 01:25:58,920
5 stars.

976
01:25:58,920 --> 01:26:03,520
I know that many people are complaining that this movie is not scary at all, which ain't

977
01:26:03,520 --> 01:26:07,440
a complaint for me because I am one of those people who never get scared watching a movie,

978
01:26:07,440 --> 01:26:10,760
whether it is Conjuring or Exorcist.

979
01:26:10,760 --> 01:26:14,960
I love to watch horror movies just to pass my pass.

980
01:26:14,960 --> 01:26:19,640
Their stories, their ghost slash demon stories in themselves and how uniquely they present

981
01:26:19,640 --> 01:26:24,880
themselves and I find horror movies more entertaining and thrilling than any other movies.

982
01:26:24,880 --> 01:26:28,680
I also watched this movie for the same reasons and I was not disappointed.

983
01:26:28,680 --> 01:26:30,520
I did not feel like my two hours got wasted.

984
01:26:30,520 --> 01:26:34,600
I got a pretty generic possession movie which kept me entertained for two hours straight.

985
01:26:34,600 --> 01:26:37,800
And that's all what I expected and got.

986
01:26:37,800 --> 01:26:39,040
Its direction is good.

987
01:26:39,040 --> 01:26:40,880
The story is interesting.

988
01:26:40,880 --> 01:26:41,880
Cast is good.

989
01:26:41,880 --> 01:26:43,280
Like the concept of the demon shown in it.

990
01:26:43,280 --> 01:26:44,960
And their ways to fight against them.

991
01:26:44,960 --> 01:26:48,840
I love these kind of possession movies with the simple and decent stories and I would

992
01:26:48,840 --> 01:26:53,280
love to watch more of it and its ending also gives the hint of the sequel for which I am

993
01:26:53,280 --> 01:26:55,320
fully up to.

994
01:26:55,320 --> 01:26:56,880
People just dying for that sequel.

995
01:26:56,880 --> 01:26:57,880
I wrote this.

996
01:26:57,880 --> 01:26:58,880
No, I'm just kidding.

997
01:26:58,880 --> 01:26:59,880
Dabby Daddy.

998
01:26:59,880 --> 01:27:00,880
It sounds like I did that.

999
01:27:00,880 --> 01:27:01,880
You're plugging your own reviews.

1000
01:27:01,880 --> 01:27:02,880
I'll do one more from R. Mac Dunchata.

1001
01:27:02,880 --> 01:27:03,880
5 stars.

1002
01:27:03,880 --> 01:27:11,720
Where to start?

1003
01:27:11,720 --> 01:27:12,720
Russell Crowe.

1004
01:27:12,720 --> 01:27:13,720
Brilliant.

1005
01:27:13,720 --> 01:27:16,680
You can tell he enjoyed this character and it really shines in the movie.

1006
01:27:16,680 --> 01:27:19,880
His delivery of lines is both hilarious and powerful.

1007
01:27:19,880 --> 01:27:23,720
The man is a legend and this movie was a really interesting choice slash departure from his

1008
01:27:23,720 --> 01:27:25,400
previous stuff.

1009
01:27:25,400 --> 01:27:30,120
The plot is intriguing with insight into a world that is scary as well as fascinating.

1010
01:27:30,120 --> 01:27:34,240
The possession itself is a totally new and more powerful take on these phenomenon than

1011
01:27:34,240 --> 01:27:36,440
seen previously in the movies.

1012
01:27:36,440 --> 01:27:40,040
There's a real sense of menace from the demon and the circumstances around the possession

1013
01:27:40,040 --> 01:27:42,960
are Indiana Jones level mythos.

1014
01:27:42,960 --> 01:27:45,920
This is a movie to be enjoyed and taken at face value.

1015
01:27:45,920 --> 01:27:51,200
It doesn't really, doesn't rely on jump scares or silly nods to other exorcism movies.

1016
01:27:51,200 --> 01:27:54,040
It is its own thing and I really loved it.

1017
01:27:54,040 --> 01:28:00,720
Hope everyone who likes horror gets to see this as it is a top movie.

1018
01:28:00,720 --> 01:28:01,960
Shit yeah.

1019
01:28:01,960 --> 01:28:03,200
Yeah.

1020
01:28:03,200 --> 01:28:11,880
People like really express themselves very thoroughly and a lot of positive love for

1021
01:28:11,880 --> 01:28:13,560
this.

1022
01:28:13,560 --> 01:28:20,400
There's a multitude of positive reviews here that I could keep going with but we'll wrap

1023
01:28:20,400 --> 01:28:21,400
it up there.

1024
01:28:21,400 --> 01:28:28,320
I was going to, yeah, so on on prime reviews, sometimes I like to look at six.

1025
01:28:28,320 --> 01:28:31,800
There are 15,000 reviews for this movie.

1026
01:28:31,800 --> 01:28:38,440
63% are five stars with an average of 4.3 out of five.

1027
01:28:38,440 --> 01:28:41,480
There is that.

1028
01:28:41,480 --> 01:28:46,040
So people really like it.

1029
01:28:46,040 --> 01:28:50,200
That is a little sample size of some of the feelings.

1030
01:28:50,200 --> 01:28:54,880
Some like the critics, it seemed like when they didn't like it, some of them were at

1031
01:28:54,880 --> 01:29:01,920
least acknowledging whether it was fun watching Russell Crowe in this movie or just the fact

1032
01:29:01,920 --> 01:29:06,840
that he kind of did his best to carry it a bit or they'd be like, oh, he was entertaining

1033
01:29:06,840 --> 01:29:08,840
in a silly way.

1034
01:29:08,840 --> 01:29:12,400
There was a recognition of that even from like the negative reviews.

1035
01:29:12,400 --> 01:29:17,600
So that tells me that it, I don't know, that's a sign of a polarizing movie for me too is

1036
01:29:17,600 --> 01:29:23,080
like going through some of these reviews is when even in the criticisms, levied against,

1037
01:29:23,080 --> 01:29:26,280
you see that kind of conversation that they're having with themselves like, oh, a lot of

1038
01:29:26,280 --> 01:29:31,080
people will say this and but I'm kind of, they're already kind of addressing it and

1039
01:29:31,080 --> 01:29:32,920
they're getting ahead of the Russell Crowe thing.

1040
01:29:32,920 --> 01:29:36,520
And then the audience in the positive review section, you'll see kind of that too of like

1041
01:29:36,520 --> 01:29:40,920
them kind of addressing the conversation in the review of like, oh, I see a lot of people

1042
01:29:40,920 --> 01:29:42,560
saying it's not scary or all this stuff.

1043
01:29:42,560 --> 01:29:46,440
Well, let me just come to its defense.

1044
01:29:46,440 --> 01:29:48,480
So I think we picked a good one for for the podcast.

1045
01:29:48,480 --> 01:29:51,360
I think it applies.

1046
01:29:51,360 --> 01:29:56,800
And I would love to throw it over to Danny to give his final thoughts and a numerical

1047
01:29:56,800 --> 01:30:01,080
value on the rotten tomato scale for this movie.

1048
01:30:01,080 --> 01:30:03,120
Here we go.

1049
01:30:03,120 --> 01:30:09,520
So this movie was pretty, I was pretty into it.

1050
01:30:09,520 --> 01:30:14,400
You know, you, I felt when we went for the break, I was sitting there thinking to myself

1051
01:30:14,400 --> 01:30:21,120
and I was like, I feel a little incepted because like, I didn't, I guess I'm a big sucker for

1052
01:30:21,120 --> 01:30:28,760
like, you know, the, the James Bond archetype of like storytelling or whatever, like, like

1053
01:30:28,760 --> 01:30:29,760
that.

1054
01:30:29,760 --> 01:30:34,200
I mean, it is basically the hero's journey, but you know, it's a little like this wasn't

1055
01:30:34,200 --> 01:30:38,880
so in your face, I guess, is like, I didn't put it together like that until you pointed

1056
01:30:38,880 --> 01:30:39,880
it out.

1057
01:30:39,880 --> 01:30:44,000
And I was like, ah, shit, I fell for it kind of thing of like, they got me with like a formulaic

1058
01:30:44,000 --> 01:30:50,440
type thing, but it also felt like there was, you know, you have these genre clashing moments

1059
01:30:50,440 --> 01:30:53,400
of like, there's a little bit of this, a little bit of that.

1060
01:30:53,400 --> 01:30:56,920
Like I said, I got a little bit Indiana Jones as they're going down into this like little

1061
01:30:56,920 --> 01:30:58,560
fucking temple and shit.

1062
01:30:58,560 --> 01:30:59,560
Yeah.

1063
01:30:59,560 --> 01:31:06,280
And so like, you know, it was hitting on all the things that, you know, made it so it roughed

1064
01:31:06,280 --> 01:31:09,360
out some of the rough edges for me.

1065
01:31:09,360 --> 01:31:12,000
Like, and then I had a blast.

1066
01:31:12,000 --> 01:31:13,840
Like the whole way through, I was really enjoying it.

1067
01:31:13,840 --> 01:31:17,080
I didn't know what was going to happen next.

1068
01:31:17,080 --> 01:31:21,080
Even if like some stuff was predictable, it doesn't matter because I don't know what fucking

1069
01:31:21,080 --> 01:31:22,960
Russell Crowe was about to do next.

1070
01:31:22,960 --> 01:31:29,000
And like what, and like, I was enjoying just seeing him fucking chew the shit out of it.

1071
01:31:29,000 --> 01:31:35,200
And like really, you know, like carry this, I mean, carry this thing over the threshold

1072
01:31:35,200 --> 01:31:36,640
in a big bad way.

1073
01:31:36,640 --> 01:31:40,080
And I think like, you know, I'm going to give a positive review on this thing.

1074
01:31:40,080 --> 01:31:43,760
Like I'm going to give a pretty high marks on this.

1075
01:31:43,760 --> 01:31:49,280
I want to put it in my like, you know, like I said, I'd rewatch it and everything, probably

1076
01:31:49,280 --> 01:31:51,000
like 93.

1077
01:31:51,000 --> 01:31:58,840
Like although cool, like, you know, I say 93 for the genre that it's in and what it is

1078
01:31:58,840 --> 01:32:04,800
also though, as far as like, you know, when, when I say good fellows is 98 or something

1079
01:32:04,800 --> 01:32:08,360
like that, it's like, I can't put those two in the same category almost.

1080
01:32:08,360 --> 01:32:10,240
So like this is not that.

1081
01:32:10,240 --> 01:32:11,240
You know what I mean?

1082
01:32:11,240 --> 01:32:12,240
Like, yeah.

1083
01:32:12,240 --> 01:32:14,840
Like, you know, I don't know what's calling for that.

1084
01:32:14,840 --> 01:32:16,480
This is popcorn cinema.

1085
01:32:16,480 --> 01:32:20,600
This is like, I want to say what this movie is trying to do to borrow a double ism, you

1086
01:32:20,600 --> 01:32:22,320
know, is like, what is it?

1087
01:32:22,320 --> 01:32:25,000
Is it successful in what it's trying to do?

1088
01:32:25,000 --> 01:32:31,240
And then what I'll also say is like my favorite movie in out of like the demon fucking movies

1089
01:32:31,240 --> 01:32:40,400
that has happened is movie called Fallen with it's got Denzel Washington, Donald Sutherland.

1090
01:32:40,400 --> 01:32:42,800
It's got James Gandolf, Feney.

1091
01:32:42,800 --> 01:32:45,240
It's got fucking John Goodman.

1092
01:32:45,240 --> 01:32:51,800
I've never seen that movie, but in my short stint as in taking acting classes, one of

1093
01:32:51,800 --> 01:32:56,080
the guys I took an acting class from said that he was the cab driver who gets possessed

1094
01:32:56,080 --> 01:32:57,080
in that movie.

1095
01:32:57,080 --> 01:32:58,080
Oh, no way.

1096
01:32:58,080 --> 01:33:00,400
Check that out sometime, but dude, that's sick as hell.

1097
01:33:00,400 --> 01:33:05,160
So when you watch that movie, it's all like there's no special effects type thing.

1098
01:33:05,160 --> 01:33:06,960
The demon just moves through touch.

1099
01:33:06,960 --> 01:33:11,480
So there's all these radical scenes with random like extras kind of in it.

1100
01:33:11,480 --> 01:33:16,720
But as it's moving through a crowd, each person's touching another person and then they're

1101
01:33:16,720 --> 01:33:18,560
turning into the demon.

1102
01:33:18,560 --> 01:33:22,560
And so you're watching it pass from random person to person on the street.

1103
01:33:22,560 --> 01:33:28,560
And it's like each person that is just randomly walking by is rushing it as like taking on

1104
01:33:28,560 --> 01:33:31,920
this same entity that moves through.

1105
01:33:31,920 --> 01:33:32,920
It's wild.

1106
01:33:32,920 --> 01:33:36,920
And like I would, I think if I was teaching an act, I was teaching an act.

1107
01:33:36,920 --> 01:33:40,000
And if I was teaching an acting class, I would show that hands down.

1108
01:33:40,000 --> 01:33:43,600
But like that, that movie right there is just talk about it.

1109
01:33:43,600 --> 01:33:44,600
Yeah.

1110
01:33:44,600 --> 01:33:47,360
So I got to watch it in the realm of like these movies.

1111
01:33:47,360 --> 01:33:54,800
That's my hundred percent right there of like demon like red on that scale on the demon

1112
01:33:54,800 --> 01:33:55,800
scale.

1113
01:33:55,800 --> 01:34:00,720
That's the, that's the, I love that because yeah, I put this at a 90 though because like

1114
01:34:00,720 --> 01:34:06,160
and this, this was, you know, doing a lot of different things for me though where Fallon

1115
01:34:06,160 --> 01:34:15,520
is like a serious movie, serious, serious movie where this, this was goofy a little bit, but

1116
01:34:15,520 --> 01:34:20,720
just enough seriousness to make it to not make me feel hokey about it.

1117
01:34:20,720 --> 01:34:21,720
But you were right.

1118
01:34:21,720 --> 01:34:27,360
There's some camp to it and there is some like, you know, there's definitely some formula

1119
01:34:27,360 --> 01:34:32,480
that they're working that, you know, if it's done right, feels like almost an homage to

1120
01:34:32,480 --> 01:34:37,200
things instead of just like a formula.

1121
01:34:37,200 --> 01:34:41,560
And so it's, it's getting to watch this guy doing, treating it with respect and doing

1122
01:34:41,560 --> 01:34:45,080
something that has been done before different.

1123
01:34:45,080 --> 01:34:47,600
And that's, that's what I got out of it.

1124
01:34:47,600 --> 01:34:52,080
And I think that, you know, I would love to see another one.

1125
01:34:52,080 --> 01:34:58,400
Also my dream team for real of other exorcists for the sequel, I would want, yeah, like I

1126
01:34:58,400 --> 01:34:59,720
said, Hugh Jackman.

1127
01:34:59,720 --> 01:35:00,720
Yes.

1128
01:35:00,720 --> 01:35:02,360
Then I want Morpheus in there.

1129
01:35:02,360 --> 01:35:08,680
I want Lawrence, Lawrence Fish, Larry Fish Lawrence, I would love to get a, a forest

1130
01:35:08,680 --> 01:35:09,960
Whitaker in there.

1131
01:35:09,960 --> 01:35:10,960
That'd be pretty cool.

1132
01:35:10,960 --> 01:35:13,560
That'd be a great exorcist.

1133
01:35:13,560 --> 01:35:15,920
Then he would be a great exorcist.

1134
01:35:15,920 --> 01:35:16,920
He would.

1135
01:35:16,920 --> 01:35:17,920
Yeah.

1136
01:35:17,920 --> 01:35:22,560
And then give me, give me, give me, let me see.

1137
01:35:22,560 --> 01:35:23,560
Okay.

1138
01:35:23,560 --> 01:35:24,560
Well, I'm told.

1139
01:35:24,560 --> 01:35:25,560
Why do you think about that?

1140
01:35:25,560 --> 01:35:26,560
No, no, no, I've got it.

1141
01:35:26,560 --> 01:35:27,560
I've got it.

1142
01:35:27,560 --> 01:35:31,280
I want, I want a Hannibal Lecter.

1143
01:35:31,280 --> 01:35:33,520
I want, I want Tony Hopkins.

1144
01:35:33,520 --> 01:35:34,520
You played a Pope.

1145
01:35:34,520 --> 01:35:36,160
Oh, I already know Anthony Hopkins.

1146
01:35:36,160 --> 01:35:37,160
Yeah.

1147
01:35:37,160 --> 01:35:38,160
Like that's who I want.

1148
01:35:38,160 --> 01:35:39,160
That's almost who I expected.

1149
01:35:39,160 --> 01:35:41,160
I knew it wasn't going to be the case.

1150
01:35:41,160 --> 01:35:42,160
Patrick Stewart.

1151
01:35:42,160 --> 01:35:43,160
Patrick Stewart.

1152
01:35:43,160 --> 01:35:46,080
Patty Stewart to round it out.

1153
01:35:46,080 --> 01:35:50,360
And maybe he just sits in the office and kind of, you know, like a professor X is like,

1154
01:35:50,360 --> 01:35:53,320
he's just like, go out and get him, you know, kind of thing.

1155
01:35:53,320 --> 01:35:55,560
But he battles the demons with his mind.

1156
01:35:55,560 --> 01:35:56,560
I don't know.

1157
01:35:56,560 --> 01:35:58,080
Maybe he's just Professor X.

1158
01:35:58,080 --> 01:35:59,080
How about Clint Eastwood?

1159
01:35:59,080 --> 01:36:01,440
I think he's going to do a crossover.

1160
01:36:01,440 --> 01:36:04,360
Clint Eastwood would be, I like it.

1161
01:36:04,360 --> 01:36:05,360
I don't know.

1162
01:36:05,360 --> 01:36:06,360
I don't know.

1163
01:36:06,360 --> 01:36:10,880
I mean, honestly, I just watched a movie that he directed in 1990 with him and Charlie

1164
01:36:10,880 --> 01:36:14,280
Sheen and I was like, he doesn't have it in him right here.

1165
01:36:14,280 --> 01:36:19,880
Like, but, but then like he's made some great shit after that, obviously, but he's, I feel

1166
01:36:19,880 --> 01:36:23,760
like he, uh, he fades in and out of greatness.

1167
01:36:23,760 --> 01:36:26,960
Oh, we got to get young, sexy Jude Law Pope in there too, Brandon.

1168
01:36:26,960 --> 01:36:27,960
Oh, yeah.

1169
01:36:27,960 --> 01:36:29,240
Oh, young sexy.

1170
01:36:29,240 --> 01:36:31,040
That's what we got.

1171
01:36:31,040 --> 01:36:32,040
Yeah.

1172
01:36:32,040 --> 01:36:33,040
And then two posts.

1173
01:36:33,040 --> 01:36:34,040
Jonathan Price.

1174
01:36:34,040 --> 01:36:38,800
If you're going to get Tony Hopkins and Jonathan Price, the two popes, they're like a tag team.

1175
01:36:38,800 --> 01:36:45,680
George Carlin as the Cardinal from Cardinal Glick from dogma.

1176
01:36:45,680 --> 01:36:46,680
And that's it.

1177
01:36:46,680 --> 01:36:47,680
Then that's it.

1178
01:36:47,680 --> 01:36:49,800
Brandon, what do you think about this movie?

1179
01:36:49,800 --> 01:36:57,000
Thank you for asking, James.

1180
01:36:57,000 --> 01:37:01,240
So there's a huge part of me that just stands what this movie kind of represents because

1181
01:37:01,240 --> 01:37:05,960
this is a movie that was made on an $18 million budget.

1182
01:37:05,960 --> 01:37:12,800
So nothing big, but really just kind of sticks to what the objective is.

1183
01:37:12,800 --> 01:37:16,720
Even to the, like there was a note that I had here where it was like, I'm locked in right

1184
01:37:16,720 --> 01:37:17,840
now.

1185
01:37:17,840 --> 01:37:20,000
Objective is established rules are set.

1186
01:37:20,000 --> 01:37:21,000
Let's get this going.

1187
01:37:21,000 --> 01:37:24,080
And I just got to give the movie so much credit for doing that.

1188
01:37:24,080 --> 01:37:30,040
And it's, it's fun.

1189
01:37:30,040 --> 01:37:33,360
Like by and large, it's a thrilling, exciting movie.

1190
01:37:33,360 --> 01:37:38,720
Sure, I wish that the cast of characters outside of Russell Crowe were better, but I

1191
01:37:38,720 --> 01:37:43,520
at the end of the day, like this is such a, it's such a fun watch.

1192
01:37:43,520 --> 01:37:45,080
It's a relatively easy watch.

1193
01:37:45,080 --> 01:37:47,480
I would recommend it to people.

1194
01:37:47,480 --> 01:37:51,400
I honestly want more movies like this, maybe not about this subject matter, but like what

1195
01:37:51,400 --> 01:37:55,960
it's trying to do to be an action movie at $18 million and do what it's doing here.

1196
01:37:55,960 --> 01:37:56,960
I dig it.

1197
01:37:56,960 --> 01:37:58,360
There's so much cool special effects.

1198
01:37:58,360 --> 01:38:00,200
A lot of, there's even a battle in this.

1199
01:38:00,200 --> 01:38:01,840
I mean, so, so great.

1200
01:38:01,840 --> 01:38:07,800
So yeah, I think I'm going to go.

1201
01:38:07,800 --> 01:38:09,800
Go 80.

1202
01:38:09,800 --> 01:38:10,800
Hail, yeah.

1203
01:38:10,800 --> 01:38:11,800
I'm going to go 80.

1204
01:38:11,800 --> 01:38:14,160
Hell yeah.

1205
01:38:14,160 --> 01:38:15,160
I love it.

1206
01:38:15,160 --> 01:38:16,360
I love that.

1207
01:38:16,360 --> 01:38:24,320
We found something that I feel like we're overall on the same page on this discussion about.

1208
01:38:24,320 --> 01:38:29,640
And it's fun when we disagree as, as well, but going through this, this podcast and picking

1209
01:38:29,640 --> 01:38:35,440
movies that everyone is so divisive on it is kind of nice to just feel like you come to

1210
01:38:35,440 --> 01:38:38,840
a level idea about how you feel about something.

1211
01:38:38,840 --> 01:38:41,600
And that's kind of been my favorite thing about one of my favorite things about doing

1212
01:38:41,600 --> 01:38:45,960
this podcast is those discussions of like, I feel like I understand how I, how I feel

1213
01:38:45,960 --> 01:38:47,320
about it better.

1214
01:38:47,320 --> 01:38:51,640
And then also getting a new perspective from you guys.

1215
01:38:51,640 --> 01:38:59,160
And for this movie, I feel like I've expressed myself plenty on this episode of the things

1216
01:38:59,160 --> 01:39:04,960
that I like the most are obviously Russell Crowe's performance.

1217
01:39:04,960 --> 01:39:06,360
Just wonderful.

1218
01:39:06,360 --> 01:39:10,760
And I would not even care to check this movie out if he wasn't in it.

1219
01:39:10,760 --> 01:39:14,200
I don't, I don't think maybe there's a part of me that sees that title.

1220
01:39:14,200 --> 01:39:18,160
And when I see that title, I do think that the Pope is going to be the one that's getting

1221
01:39:18,160 --> 01:39:20,160
the exorcism.

1222
01:39:20,160 --> 01:39:23,600
But even this, this is cool too.

1223
01:39:23,600 --> 01:39:24,840
Oh, it's the Pope's exorcist.

1224
01:39:24,840 --> 01:39:25,840
Oh, okay.

1225
01:39:25,840 --> 01:39:29,360
Well, that's also a fun idea.

1226
01:39:29,360 --> 01:39:34,400
Him at the beginning, right around his Vespa interacting with, with other priests and everything.

1227
01:39:34,400 --> 01:39:35,400
Golden.

1228
01:39:35,400 --> 01:39:36,640
All that stuff is, is just golden.

1229
01:39:36,640 --> 01:39:38,440
All the stuff with the family, not so much.

1230
01:39:38,440 --> 01:39:43,200
That stuff is, is where the formula generic kind of formulaic sort of stuff of like a

1231
01:39:43,200 --> 01:39:46,280
family second to spooky house.

1232
01:39:46,280 --> 01:39:47,400
Weird things are happening.

1233
01:39:47,400 --> 01:39:53,280
Kid gets possessed and the performances all around maybe suffer from that as well because

1234
01:39:53,280 --> 01:39:55,520
they're not, they're not the best.

1235
01:39:55,520 --> 01:40:02,520
When Russell Crowe comes into the picture and he interacts with everything, his character

1236
01:40:02,520 --> 01:40:03,840
starts to come out more.

1237
01:40:03,840 --> 01:40:08,600
I'm kind of back on again, but it is a lot of going in and out, in and out.

1238
01:40:08,600 --> 01:40:12,320
And then when they get to the bottom with all the inquisition stuff, that's where, you

1239
01:40:12,320 --> 01:40:17,240
know, things really start to pick up and I'm fully on board when he gets possessed.

1240
01:40:17,240 --> 01:40:21,840
That final like scene of them like coming into the room, I was like a little bit like,

1241
01:40:21,840 --> 01:40:25,480
this is, this is the final scene of every fucking exorcism movie.

1242
01:40:25,480 --> 01:40:30,240
I was honestly a little bit of like starting to eject a little bit out of my feelings for

1243
01:40:30,240 --> 01:40:31,240
it.

1244
01:40:31,240 --> 01:40:35,800
Cause I was like, oh, it's like the big, the big show down or whatever.

1245
01:40:35,800 --> 01:40:42,280
But then to see him get possessed, get out and then you're, starts like hitting the

1246
01:40:42,280 --> 01:40:44,240
walls and like throwing around.

1247
01:40:44,240 --> 01:40:48,320
And then like the whole show down in the, in the basement, the cellar, whatever, all

1248
01:40:48,320 --> 01:40:54,880
that stuff had the best cinematic elements, had the most schlock, had the most camp, had

1249
01:40:54,880 --> 01:41:00,080
the, had the most fun and kind of out of control stuff where I didn't know what was going to

1250
01:41:00,080 --> 01:41:04,080
happen where I felt like I was, the rest of the movie was pretty predictable.

1251
01:41:04,080 --> 01:41:09,720
That final, final portion just like launched me back on, on board with this movie right

1252
01:41:09,720 --> 01:41:14,040
up until the end where I was like, I want to see, I can have all these other ideas about

1253
01:41:14,040 --> 01:41:19,200
where this movie is talking about, like all these sequel ideas that like I would be totally

1254
01:41:19,200 --> 01:41:20,920
down for.

1255
01:41:20,920 --> 01:41:28,160
And I question how much that has to do with just the charisma of, of Russell Crowe, those

1256
01:41:28,160 --> 01:41:31,840
eyes and like he's got a bigger face now and that big bushy beard and all that stuff, but

1257
01:41:31,840 --> 01:41:34,400
those eyes have so much going on there.

1258
01:41:34,400 --> 01:41:40,240
There's like a real trickster quality to him that is, is fun and silly.

1259
01:41:40,240 --> 01:41:46,000
Um, I'm, I'm probably not going to, it's hard because I feel like I'm speaking glowing,

1260
01:41:46,000 --> 01:41:50,320
but I, there's a real portion of this in the middle that was just like, like I was saying,

1261
01:41:50,320 --> 01:41:51,320
not my favorite.

1262
01:41:51,320 --> 01:41:54,040
So that's why I'm going to probably go a little bit lower than you guys in the, in the 70

1263
01:41:54,040 --> 01:41:55,040
range.

1264
01:41:55,040 --> 01:41:56,040
I'll do a 74.

1265
01:41:56,040 --> 01:41:57,040
I'll do a 74.

1266
01:41:57,040 --> 01:42:04,000
Um, because yeah, I think it, it really took that for it to pick up at the end for me to

1267
01:42:04,000 --> 01:42:10,960
be back on board and the middle crown was a little, little iffy, but overall I would

1268
01:42:10,960 --> 01:42:11,960
recommend it.

1269
01:42:11,960 --> 01:42:12,960
I would see a sequel.

1270
01:42:12,960 --> 01:42:14,080
I would watch it again.

1271
01:42:14,080 --> 01:42:20,440
I would fucking watch it again, especially knowing that the ending was coming in.

1272
01:42:20,440 --> 01:42:26,800
I think that helps in a lot of horror movies and thrillers for general is just like the

1273
01:42:26,800 --> 01:42:32,840
as you know, one Gabriel Gabriel, I would say the theatricality of it, you know, this movie

1274
01:42:32,840 --> 01:42:37,520
has a nice theatrical, theatrical sort of soapy side to it.

1275
01:42:37,520 --> 01:42:42,280
And also like a, yeah, they want to build this lore out with like these papers and all

1276
01:42:42,280 --> 01:42:43,280
this mystery.

1277
01:42:43,280 --> 01:42:50,480
It just, there's a lot to have fun with and easy recommend, easy, much better time than

1278
01:42:50,480 --> 01:42:54,240
splice for sure.

1279
01:42:54,240 --> 01:42:59,720
So yeah, let's, let's move on from, from splice and into the Pope's exorcist of them all.

1280
01:42:59,720 --> 01:43:03,320
I'm excited to see what his next project is and we'll be there for it.

1281
01:43:03,320 --> 01:43:06,080
I think I wonder, I'm curious about that poker movie.

1282
01:43:06,080 --> 01:43:07,920
I think that one might be polarizing.

1283
01:43:07,920 --> 01:43:13,440
We can have that back for, for Danny, if he wants to keep on going with it.

1284
01:43:13,440 --> 01:43:14,440
Yeah.

1285
01:43:14,440 --> 01:43:15,440
It was a Russell Crow poker movie.

1286
01:43:15,440 --> 01:43:20,960
I think he directed it as, as well, but I'm not sure of the, of the ratings.

1287
01:43:20,960 --> 01:43:23,520
I'm just curious now that I'm thinking of it.

1288
01:43:23,520 --> 01:43:25,720
And then drop induces.

1289
01:43:25,720 --> 01:43:27,720
Oh, wow.

1290
01:43:27,720 --> 01:43:32,800
It's a 9% by critics and a 36% by audience.

1291
01:43:32,800 --> 01:43:38,120
So we will not be, we will not be doing it on this podcast, but that's a big enough gap.

1292
01:43:38,120 --> 01:43:44,240
No, what I would like to do is do a little segment, do a little game.

1293
01:43:44,240 --> 01:43:45,240
Yeah.

1294
01:43:45,240 --> 01:43:46,240
Yeah.

1295
01:43:46,240 --> 01:43:52,800
If you guys got, got some time for a fun little game of, I like to call it review blitz and

1296
01:43:52,800 --> 01:44:00,720
this version is going to be the Russell Crow review blitz version of the game in which I

1297
01:44:00,720 --> 01:44:04,480
will pick a movie and it's up to you to, to figure out what this movie is.

1298
01:44:04,480 --> 01:44:10,480
And the way that you're going to find out is I'm going to give you reviews from critics

1299
01:44:10,480 --> 01:44:12,560
and audiences.

1300
01:44:12,560 --> 01:44:17,520
And with those clues that you glean from the reviews, you try to guess what this movie

1301
01:44:17,520 --> 01:44:18,520
is.

1302
01:44:18,520 --> 01:44:20,360
I'm going to read a review.

1303
01:44:20,360 --> 01:44:21,800
They're all Russell Crow movies.

1304
01:44:21,800 --> 01:44:22,800
That's the hint.

1305
01:44:22,800 --> 01:44:23,800
Yeah.

1306
01:44:23,800 --> 01:44:27,320
Cause I think last time I'm trying to figure out a way to hone it in a bit.

1307
01:44:27,320 --> 01:44:33,800
So this should give a big enough hint for all these movies, Russell Crow's and them.

1308
01:44:33,800 --> 01:44:37,920
And I'm going to do a critic review, then audience review and back and forth, back and

1309
01:44:37,920 --> 01:44:39,800
forth until you guys get it.

1310
01:44:39,800 --> 01:44:40,800
Just buzzing.

1311
01:44:40,800 --> 01:44:42,840
I'm going to do the, the buzzing system.

1312
01:44:42,840 --> 01:44:43,840
So just buzzing.

1313
01:44:43,840 --> 01:44:44,840
If you think you got it.

1314
01:44:44,840 --> 01:44:51,760
And then I just want to give you guys unlimited tries really, or should we do turns?

1315
01:44:51,760 --> 01:44:54,680
What would be, I'm, I should have figured this out.

1316
01:44:54,680 --> 01:44:57,040
I say buzz in, just buzz in.

1317
01:44:57,040 --> 01:45:00,200
Buzz in.

1318
01:45:00,200 --> 01:45:04,920
And then if someone buzzes in, gets it wrong, then I guess the next person can get advantage

1319
01:45:04,920 --> 01:45:07,480
or something can go first next time or something.

1320
01:45:07,480 --> 01:45:08,480
Okay.

1321
01:45:08,480 --> 01:45:15,840
So let's start with a critic review of this Russell Crow movie from Keith Garlington at

1322
01:45:15,840 --> 01:45:18,800
Keith and in the movies, a critic.

1323
01:45:18,800 --> 01:45:24,320
The flawless ensemble, the masterfully written story, the vibrant yet gritty version, vision

1324
01:45:24,320 --> 01:45:26,320
of 1950s LA.

1325
01:45:26,320 --> 01:45:27,320
Most of it.

1326
01:45:27,320 --> 01:45:28,320
Yes.

1327
01:45:28,320 --> 01:45:29,320
LA confidential.

1328
01:45:29,320 --> 01:45:30,320
Yeah.

1329
01:45:30,320 --> 01:45:35,400
I guess the 50s LA thing was pretty clear, but yeah, you got it.

1330
01:45:35,400 --> 01:45:36,400
One to Danny.

1331
01:45:36,400 --> 01:45:37,400
All right.

1332
01:45:37,400 --> 01:45:38,400
I'm, how many do I got here?

1333
01:45:38,400 --> 01:45:39,400
I think we'll do.

1334
01:45:39,400 --> 01:45:41,400
Come and actually Brandon.

1335
01:45:41,400 --> 01:45:42,400
Yeah.

1336
01:45:42,400 --> 01:45:45,920
I'm going to do three out of five for, for feeling it.

1337
01:45:45,920 --> 01:45:48,720
So let's go on to the next movie.

1338
01:45:48,720 --> 01:45:55,760
Let's start with the audience on this one and then we'll go back to critics.

1339
01:45:55,760 --> 01:45:58,360
Let's see.

1340
01:45:58,360 --> 01:46:00,360
There's a.

1341
01:46:00,360 --> 01:46:01,360
Yes.

1342
01:46:01,360 --> 01:46:02,360
Okay.

1343
01:46:02,360 --> 01:46:05,680
From Sifrin, five stars.

1344
01:46:05,680 --> 01:46:07,880
Every time I watch this movie, I end up in tears.

1345
01:46:07,880 --> 01:46:12,680
One of the best movies ever produced caused me to second guess everything I had previously

1346
01:46:12,680 --> 01:46:16,760
seen do recommend.

1347
01:46:16,760 --> 01:46:17,760
That's pretty vague.

1348
01:46:17,760 --> 01:46:19,320
Yeah, I don't know.

1349
01:46:19,320 --> 01:46:20,320
Okay.

1350
01:46:20,320 --> 01:46:21,320
I'll do any.

1351
01:46:21,320 --> 01:46:22,320
I was starting pretty vague.

1352
01:46:22,320 --> 01:46:23,320
We'll get more granular.

1353
01:46:23,320 --> 01:46:26,520
We'll go to critics.

1354
01:46:26,520 --> 01:46:28,000
Let's see.

1355
01:46:28,000 --> 01:46:29,000
We will pick.

1356
01:46:29,000 --> 01:46:36,760
Wait, where did it just go?

1357
01:46:36,760 --> 01:46:43,880
Brian Miller from Seattle Weekly as competent affecting biopics go biopics.

1358
01:46:43,880 --> 01:46:48,080
You won't win any prizes, but you've urine buzz.

1359
01:46:48,080 --> 01:46:49,080
It's mine.

1360
01:46:49,080 --> 01:46:51,520
I think I was going to say too.

1361
01:46:51,520 --> 01:46:57,680
Yeah, but I think it was branded, but it was almost is very close.

1362
01:46:57,680 --> 01:46:58,680
Very close.

1363
01:46:58,680 --> 01:46:59,680
Yeah.

1364
01:46:59,680 --> 01:47:00,680
The buzz.

1365
01:47:00,680 --> 01:47:01,680
Well done.

1366
01:47:01,680 --> 01:47:02,680
Well done.

1367
01:47:02,680 --> 01:47:03,680
All right.

1368
01:47:03,680 --> 01:47:04,680
This is going better.

1369
01:47:04,680 --> 01:47:05,680
We got a tie.

1370
01:47:05,680 --> 01:47:06,680
Tie a ballgame.

1371
01:47:06,680 --> 01:47:07,680
Let's move on to the next one.

1372
01:47:07,680 --> 01:47:09,520
We'll start with a critic review.

1373
01:47:09,520 --> 01:47:19,160
Let's see if I can find one that's a little bit more vague so that you don't get it immediately.

1374
01:47:19,160 --> 01:47:23,480
Yeah, that can make it probably pretty tough.

1375
01:47:23,480 --> 01:47:26,960
Yeah, you probably guys are probably going to get so be ready to buzz.

1376
01:47:26,960 --> 01:47:28,680
This one's going to be a little tougher.

1377
01:47:28,680 --> 01:47:32,080
All right, from Bill Muller, Arizona Republic.

1378
01:47:32,080 --> 01:47:37,760
The new film has spectacular fight scenes and dazzling sets and a familiar.

1379
01:47:37,760 --> 01:47:38,760
Yes.

1380
01:47:38,760 --> 01:47:39,760
Gladiator.

1381
01:47:39,760 --> 01:47:41,880
Yes, gladiator.

1382
01:47:41,880 --> 01:47:42,880
I mean fights.

1383
01:47:42,880 --> 01:47:43,880
I said fight scenes.

1384
01:47:43,880 --> 01:47:44,880
So yeah, right.

1385
01:47:44,880 --> 01:47:46,880
I was just like what's probably the most.

1386
01:47:46,880 --> 01:47:47,880
Yeah, yeah.

1387
01:47:47,880 --> 01:47:49,880
Like that was a that was educated.

1388
01:47:49,880 --> 01:47:51,560
That was a shot in the dark though.

1389
01:47:51,560 --> 01:47:54,960
He's been in other ones that you know, he's fought in them.

1390
01:47:54,960 --> 01:47:58,920
All right, we're going to go on to the next one to one Danny.

1391
01:47:58,920 --> 01:48:02,120
Let's switch over to audience reviews.

1392
01:48:02,120 --> 01:48:04,760
Just checking out here.

1393
01:48:04,760 --> 01:48:17,480
It's from ABL five stars, one of the great dad movies, which you guys would be very familiar

1394
01:48:17,480 --> 01:48:20,680
with if you guys get the chance.

1395
01:48:20,680 --> 01:48:25,520
You have a podcast in the works that I'm sure would be great to listen to when it does come

1396
01:48:25,520 --> 01:48:27,000
out about about this very thing.

1397
01:48:27,000 --> 01:48:28,720
One of the great dad movies.

1398
01:48:28,720 --> 01:48:32,800
It feels like an old fashioned epic, which might explain why it was ignored by general

1399
01:48:32,800 --> 01:48:35,400
audiences back in 2003.

1400
01:48:35,400 --> 01:48:37,760
Mastering commander.

1401
01:48:37,760 --> 01:48:38,760
Mastering commander.

1402
01:48:38,760 --> 01:48:39,760
Totally.

1403
01:48:39,760 --> 01:48:42,880
That would be three to Danny, which would give you the win.

1404
01:48:42,880 --> 01:48:43,880
I can do one more.

1405
01:48:43,880 --> 01:48:44,880
If you guys want to do it for fun.

1406
01:48:44,880 --> 01:48:45,880
Let's do one more.

1407
01:48:45,880 --> 01:48:46,880
Let's do one more.

1408
01:48:46,880 --> 01:48:47,880
You can do one more.

1409
01:48:47,880 --> 01:48:49,140
All right.

1410
01:48:49,140 --> 01:48:50,640
This is our last one.

1411
01:48:50,640 --> 01:48:53,800
Danny's running away with it.

1412
01:48:53,800 --> 01:49:03,920
Let's do let's see from Mike Massive from Gone with the Twins.

1413
01:49:03,920 --> 01:49:05,480
This is a critic.

1414
01:49:05,480 --> 01:49:08,240
The pacing is surprisingly well handled.

1415
01:49:08,240 --> 01:49:12,160
The themes of hope and love are commanding and the epic presentation and striking tragedies

1416
01:49:12,160 --> 01:49:14,560
can't be overlooked.

1417
01:49:14,560 --> 01:49:16,560
Fuck.

1418
01:49:16,560 --> 01:49:19,560
What is it called?

1419
01:49:19,560 --> 01:49:20,560
Buzz.

1420
01:49:20,560 --> 01:49:21,560
Yeah.

1421
01:49:21,560 --> 01:49:22,560
Is it a winter's tale?

1422
01:49:22,560 --> 01:49:23,560
No.

1423
01:49:23,560 --> 01:49:24,560
Okay.

1424
01:49:24,560 --> 01:49:25,560
That is a movie, right?

1425
01:49:25,560 --> 01:49:27,040
I got the title right.

1426
01:49:27,040 --> 01:49:28,040
Yeah.

1427
01:49:28,040 --> 01:49:30,240
But don't think he's in it though.

1428
01:49:30,240 --> 01:49:31,240
Yeah.

1429
01:49:31,240 --> 01:49:32,240
Yeah.

1430
01:49:32,240 --> 01:49:33,240
He's.

1431
01:49:33,240 --> 01:49:34,240
He's.

1432
01:49:34,240 --> 01:49:35,240
He's.

1433
01:49:35,240 --> 01:49:36,240
He's.

1434
01:49:36,240 --> 01:49:37,240
He's.

1435
01:49:37,240 --> 01:49:38,240
He's.

1436
01:49:38,240 --> 01:49:39,240
He's.

1437
01:49:39,240 --> 01:49:40,240
He's.

1438
01:49:40,240 --> 01:49:41,240
He's.

1439
01:49:41,240 --> 01:49:42,240
He's.

1440
01:49:42,240 --> 01:49:43,240
He's.

1441
01:49:43,240 --> 01:49:44,240
He's.

1442
01:49:44,240 --> 01:49:45,240
He's.

1443
01:49:45,240 --> 01:49:46,240
He's.

1444
01:49:46,240 --> 01:49:47,240
He's.

1445
01:49:47,240 --> 01:49:48,240
He's.

1446
01:49:48,240 --> 01:49:49,240
He's.

1447
01:49:49,240 --> 01:49:50,240
He's.

1448
01:49:50,240 --> 01:49:51,240
He's.

1449
01:49:51,240 --> 01:49:52,240
He's.

1450
01:49:52,240 --> 01:49:53,240
He's.

1451
01:49:53,240 --> 01:49:54,240
He's.

1452
01:49:54,240 --> 01:49:55,240
He's.

1453
01:49:55,240 --> 01:49:56,240
It was really funny.

1454
01:49:56,240 --> 01:49:57,240
He was kinda a joke.

1455
01:49:57,240 --> 01:49:58,240
He was like...

1456
01:49:58,240 --> 01:49:59,240
He was quiet.

1457
01:49:58,800 --> 01:50:00,120
You were.

1458
01:49:59,240 --> 01:50:00,240
He was sassy.

1459
01:50:00,720 --> 01:50:02,220
We were the kids before.

1460
01:50:02,220 --> 01:50:04,600
We were going to move up into a party though.

1461
01:50:04,720 --> 01:50:07,400
We just looked around the lighting directly, and he

1462
01:50:07,400 --> 01:50:10,020
was like where's ourbirds frantically?

1463
01:50:10,020 --> 01:50:11,020
I told you.

1464
01:50:11,020 --> 01:50:12,120
We weren't going to enter the�

1465
01:50:12,120 --> 01:50:14,940
She went back a little while thanks to you.

1466
01:50:14,940 --> 01:50:15,440
She went.

1467
01:50:15,440 --> 01:50:16,440
Well.

1468
01:50:18,440 --> 01:50:20,560
ows the entire hood just lost a bonito.

1469
01:50:20,560 --> 01:50:21,560
No way really.

1470
01:50:21,560 --> 01:50:22,560
I said.

1471
01:50:22,560 --> 01:50:29,720
mystery thriller horror movie according to Ron Tomatoes. It is called No One Will Save You.

1472
01:50:29,720 --> 01:50:38,360
It has a certified fresh 82% ranking on Ron Tomatoes by the critics. It has a relatively

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poopy doopie snoopy 57% by the audience. It is a critically, critically favored movie. You can

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watch on... if you have a Hulu subscription, it is made by them. So you can watch it there. I think

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that's... I don't know if you can watch it in any other places. You figured out, but it's called

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No One Will Save You and it came out this year. Very excited to see it. It's been fun seeing

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movies I haven't seen before. Minus Splice, which I'd seen many years ago and which I'd never seen

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ever. But I've seen it twice now. And speaking of things that I'm glad I've seen, Danny, you're not a

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thing, but I'm so glad I've seen you today. Congratulations again on your beautiful baby.

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Yeah. Thanks for that. I appreciate you so much taking the time out of your, I'm sure, very busy

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and tired schedule raising a newborn to talk about a movie with us and always appreciate it. And I

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can't wait to have you back for the next crow feature. Or any of you want to watch? And Brandini,

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again, thank you for being the co-host with the most. Thank you. We are live on twitch.tv

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slash polarize pod. If you want to see us there, you can send us a line at polarize.pod.gmail.com.

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There's a YouTube out there. If you, I don't know if there's no actual visuals or anything,

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but it's another way to listen to our podcast that I started up recently as well,

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Polarize Pod on YouTube. And just has a few of our recordings, if that's an easier way for you to

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listen to. Otherwise, you really are on a lot of podcasts networks. We're on board over here

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listening to right now. It's crazy. If you've enjoyed this, you love the Pope, the sex or

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cyst. You should check it out sometime. If you've ever seen that movie, I don't know. But

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it sounds like a good time. Yeah. And from all of us out here, we hope you enjoy your Halloween

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season and we'll see you next time. Bye bye. Bye bye.